November 19, 2025 • 33 mins
Step past the veil and into the core claim of Hebrews: Jesus is not only our mediator but our high priest who became the final, perfect sacrifice. We start with the Old Testament portrait—priests from among the people, a high priest entering the Holy of Holies once a year—and show why that pattern points to a deeper need. To truly represent us, a priest must share our humanity. To truly reconcile us, the priest must offer a sinless, sufficient sacrifice. Only Jesus is both.
We walk through Hebrews chapters 1–2 to see how the text holds together Jesus’ full divinity and full humanity, then unpack propitiation with clear language: God’s justice satisfied, the barrier removed, the way back opened. No more yearly cycles of guilt. No more blood of bulls and goats. “It is finished” means done once for all. From there, Hebrews 3 turns the diamond: Moses served in the house; Jesus built the house. That shift matters, especially for anyone tempted to settle for tradition, tribe, or moral effort. The builder outranks the servant because the builder authors the story.
Along the way we address a common struggle: confusing spiritual feelings with spiritual facts. Hebrews calls believers “holy brethren” and “partakers of a heavenly calling” because God sets us apart in Christ. That assurance empowers perseverance. When the author says “we are his house if we hold fast,” the “if” functions as a marker of genuine confidence—those who belong continue, not by grit alone, but because Christ is faithful. Consider Jesus becomes our rallying cry: engage your mind, weigh the claims, and become firmly persuaded.
If you’re hungry for a faith that invites thinking, offers real assurance, and centers on a Savior who is both advocate and offering, this conversation will steady your steps. Listen, share with a friend, and tell us: which image of Jesus—high priest, sacrifice, builder—strengthens your hope today? If this helped you, subscribe, leave a review, and pass it on.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:20):
Many governments have representatives of the
people that the people willelect to go represent them at
the Capitol.
Well, we have something similarto that in religious ceremonies,
at least in the Old Testamentreligious ceremonies, the priest
had to be part of the people.
And he represented the people toGod in the temple ceremonies.
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Well, today we're going to meetthe high priest, the one who was
the most important high priest.
Hi, my name's Glenn.
I'm here with Steve.
We have a ministry we callReasoning Through the Bible.
Today we're in the book ofHebrews and we're introduced to
the concept of a high priest.
With this, we're going to seehow Jesus is our high priest.
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Hebrews chapter one has Jesus asGod Almighty.
Hebrews chapter two has Jesus asman.
Towards the end of chapter two,it mentions Jesus as being the
high priest.
Steve, what was the role of thehigh priest in the Old Testament
ceremony?
SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
Well, the priesthood came out of the tribe of Levi or
Levi, and they were responsiblefor taking care of all of the
sacrifices and the templeworship for the people and
representatives for them.
The common priest would, as Imentioned, take care of some of
the things of relighting thelamp stat, the menorah that was
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in the tabernacle, refreshingthe show bread, keeping the
altar of incense going, and ofcourse, all the sacrifices that
were going on outside.
But the high priest, there wasonly one of them that served at
any given point in time.
There weren't multiple highpriests.
And the high priest wasresponsible for not only
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overseeing the other priests,but once a year on the Day of
Atonement, he would go into theHoly of Holies.
That was an area where the Arkof the Covenant was.
It was separated by a large,thick veil that was between it
and the regular holy place wherethe menorah lampstand and the uh
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table of showbread was.
He would go in and sprinkle theblood of the atonement sacrifice
on the Ark of the Covenant.
He would do that once a year.
That was what the responsibilityof the high priest was.
SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
The priest would go into the temple or tabernacle
and have priestly duties he hadto do to represent the people to
God.
A prophet in the Old Testamentwas one who took God's message
and spoke to the people in thename of God.
If you were with us when westudied Ezekiel, Ezekiel would
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often act out things as if hewere God, and he would separate
himself from the people.
For example, a prophet, or inthe New Testament sense, an
apostle would speak for God tothe people.
A priest would do just theopposite.
A priest was part of the people,and he would represent the
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people to God, specifically inthe tabernacle.
Now, today we often get this allconfused, and we put a priest up
on a pedestal and think this isa person that speaks for God,
that there's some sort of a holyperson that would have some sort
of a blessing from God in thesense of like a prophet or an
apostle.
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That's not the case.
A priest represents the peopleto God.
This becomes important becauseHebrews 2.17 tells us why Jesus
had to be a man.
It says, therefore, he, Jesus,had to be made like his brethren
in all things, so that he mightbecome a merciful and faithful
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high priest in things pertainingto God to make propitiation for
the sins of the people.
Jesus had to be human so that hecould be the high priest, so he
could then represent people toGod.
Now we have in the book ofHebrews, chapter one had Jesus
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as God so he could be sinless.
Chapter two, Jesus as man, sothat he could pay for our sins.
Also in chapter two, Jesus asman, so he could be our high
priest that goes before God tobe our intercessor and advocate.
That's a wonderful thing, Steve,that we have an advocate that is
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a perfectly sinless high priest,but he goes to represent us.
He had to be man so that hecould represent us to God.
And that's a theme, really, ofthis whole book.
This is the first that's beenintroduced here, but we're going
to see much more of this in thebook of Hebrews.
SPEAKER_01 (05:20):
Yeah, it goes back to what we've mentioned before
is that it's just a wonderfulthat Jesus has gone to this
length and extent in order tocommunicate and with mankind
himself and provide this way ofsalvation that we can have to be
able to spend eternity with him.
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Words just really can't describeit.
SPEAKER_00 (05:42):
We're also introduced to a five-syllable
theological word here that'sintroduced to us here in 217.
Jesus made propitiation for thesins of the people.
Now, propitiation, I think, camefrom the old King James.
It's there's a lot of historicaltheology built around it, so the
translators keep using the wordhere.
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But propitiation, not a word weoften hear in common
conversation.
What it really means is to wipeout the separation from God.
Or propitiate means to cause areconciliation, to reconcile two
different groups that had beenseparated.
Propitiation is a satisfactionof the offense that we caused
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against God.
As high priest, Jesus can makethe sacrifice that satisfies the
justice and wrath of a perfectlyholy God.
Jesus can then be just himselfand be the justifier of mankind.
Because he was the sinless highpriest, he could go in and offer
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the sacrifice, which in thiscase is himself, that would
satisfy a God.
He would propitiate or make away back.
He satisfies God.
Steve, how wonderful it is thatJesus is both our just and our
justifier.
He is both the high priest andthe sacrifice that makes a way
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back to God.
How wonderful is that?
SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
I've often described this as being a satisfactory
sacrifice, meaning that it tookGod Himself to be able to be a
satisfactory sacrifice tosatisfy the debt that needed to
be paid.
Once again, it's just a pictureof what we mean to God and Jesus
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in order to come and associatewith us, call us brethren.
It also gives us a picture ofsomething that we can depend on
because it is a satisfactorysacrifice.
It's not a sacrifice that has tobe done every year.
It's not a sacrifice that's donewith the blood of bulls or
goats.
It's one that is done, as hementioned at the end on the
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cross.
It is finished.
It's been done once and for all,and it has met all the
requirements.
There doesn't have to beanything else that needs to be
done.
And we can take rest in that ofknowing that by trusting in
Jesus Christ, we don't have toworry about any type of
sacrifice that has to be doneperiodically once a year for
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that purpose.
There's only one.
No more have to be done.
SPEAKER_00 (08:27):
That brings us to the beginning of chapter three.
Just to touch base on where weare at this point in the book.
We've seen in chapters one andtwo who he is.
Now in chapter three, we'regoing to begin to see what he
has done.
In chapter three, it's going toshow Jesus as greater than
Moses.
We've been warned about thedanger of drifting away from the
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truth.
Well, chapter three is going towarn us about the danger of an
unbelieving heart and thedeceitfulness of sin.
So far in the book, we've seenJesus as superior to the
prophets, superior to theangels, and now he's going to be
shown to be superior to Moses.
Steve, can you read the firstsix verses of Hebrews chapter
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three?
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a
heavenly calling, considerJesus, the apostle and high
priest of our confession.
He was faithful to him whoappointed him, as Moses also was
in all his house.
For he has been counted worthyof more glory than Moses, by
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just so much as the builder ofthe house has more honor than
the house.
For every house is built bysomeone, but the builder of all
things is God.
Now Moses was faithful in allhis house as a servant for a
testimony of those things whichwere to be spoken later, but
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Christ was faithful as a sonover his house, whose house we
are, if we hold fast ourconfidence and the boast of our
hope firm until the end.
SPEAKER_00 (10:05):
Verse 1 starts out speaking to holy brethren.
Now, Steve, I don't know aboutyou, but I don't feel very holy.
SPEAKER_01 (10:11):
How about you?
Well, I think that he'scombining some of the previous
things he's talked about.
He talked about sanctification,the ones who were sanctified.
We mentioned that that was beingset apart.
That's what the word holy means.
Holy means the same thing.
Somebody is set apart.
In the previous chapter, hementioned that he calls us
brethren.
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The author here is, I think,putting those two concepts
together as he begins this thirdchapter.
Of course, in the originalletter, there weren't chapter
and verses, but the person thatdivided this done it in such a
way that now, as we startchapter three, it's also in a
steady flow of what wasmentioned before in chapter two
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of being sanctified and alsobeing called brethren.
Here, he calls them holybrethren.
SPEAKER_00 (10:59):
He calls them holy brethren, partakers of a
heavenly calling.
I said a while ago, I don't feelvery holy.
Well, the important thing hereis that we don't base the facts
on our feelings.
It doesn't matter how we feel.
God has declared us holy.
We have a righteousness that isgiven to us through Christ.
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Now, we should, as is taughtmany places in the New
Testament, we should yield tothe Holy Spirit's guidance to
live holy lives.
When our flesh gets in the way,that's when we get into
unholiness.
We should indeed yield to theHoly Spirit to lead increasingly
righteous lives.
But our position in Christ isdue to God's declaration, not
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our feelings.
It doesn't matter how I feel, itmatters what God has declared.
So, Steve, should we base ourposition in Christ on our
feelings?
SPEAKER_01 (11:56):
Absolutely not.
We should not base our positionor standing before God solely
based upon our feelings.
SPEAKER_00 (12:02):
Our position in Christ is determined by God, and
God has declared us holy.
I remember in Corinthians, hestarts off the book talking
about sanctified people and thenspends most of the book talking
about problems they all had andsins they all had, but yet they
were sanctified.
So our position in Hebrews 3:1is we are holy brethren, and we
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should act like holy brethren.
But when we don't, we don't haveto worry about being thrown out
of God's family.
He has declared us holybrethren.
Our position in Christ is notbased on our feelings, it's
based on God's declaration.
That brings the next question.
So then how can God declare usholy?
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In what sense are we declaredholy?
Well, the sense is Abrahambelieved God and it was counted
as righteousness.
But it's quoted in Genesis 15:6,Romans 4.3, 4.22, and Galatians
3.6.
We are declared righteous by Godbased on faith.
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Romans 4.5 says ourrighteousness before God is not
based on good works, but ratherour faith is counted as
righteousness.
In that sense, anyone with faiththat truly trusts Christ is a
holy brethren, regardless of ourfeelings.
It also says here that we arepartakers of a heavenly calling.
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What sort of heavenly calling doChristians share, Steve?
SPEAKER_01 (13:38):
Well, we share a common calling in that we are
all invited to become a followerin Jesus Christ.
That's the Greek word behindthis word calling.
It's an invitation.
So it's very clear that Jesus,through his ministry, he invited
all that would to come andfollow him.
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We're all invited to followJesus Christ.
Jesus said, I am the way, thetruth, and the life.
No man comes to the Father butthrough me.
We are all, in one way oranother, whether through a
somebody we know personally, orwhether it's through a ministry
or studying the scriptureitself, there is an invitation
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to follow Jesus Christ in orderto have that eternal salvation.
Believe and trust in Him.
SPEAKER_00 (14:27):
Our heavenly calling has several aspects to it.
Not only the salvation, whichyou mentioned, Steve, but we are
called to fellowship with Christas a personal fellowship with
Christ Himself.
That is a heavenly calling.
We're also called to makedisciples through the Great
Commission in Matthew 28.
We are called to heavenly dutiesto support the kingdom.
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We are all part of the body, andwe all have a function in the
Great Commission.
Our calling is of heavenlyimportance, and we should take
our calling seriously.
As Christians, the firstquestion I asked a minute ago is
about how we feel.
Well, we shouldn't base ouractions on our feelings.
God has declared us holybrethren that has a heavenly
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calling.
And as such, we should viewourselves with this heavenly
calling and take it veryseriously.
Our lives and our daily walk, weshould live holy lives.
And we should live livesdedicated to Jesus and walking
in his path, doing his service,following what he has called us
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to do.
And when we do that, we areindeed holy brethren with a
heavenly calling.
We need to have that of utmostimportance.
We need to keep it before oureyes and realize that the great
importance, the eternalimportance that we take this
seriously, our heavenly calling.
Then it says, consider Jesus.
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The holy brethren with aheavenly calling should consider
Jesus.
This could be the rallying cryof the book of Hebrews, consider
Jesus.
We are to give careful, lengthy,and thoughtful consideration of
Jesus.
The word here means to thinkabout, to put your mind in gear,
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to mull over, to chew it in yourmind, to go over it.
Consider who he is.
He is God and man.
Consider what he has done.
He has submitted himself andbecame a man, a lowly man, and
he submitted himself all the wayto death on a cross.
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We should consider Jesus what heis doing right now, which is
interceding for his brethren.
Steve, what do you think of whenyou consider Jesus?
SPEAKER_01 (16:51):
I do just that.
I do consider all of the thingsthat he's done for us in the way
that he has made it possible forus to be able to have an eternal
life with him.
You get the picture that it'snot something that's done on a
whim.
It's not something that's justdone based off of an emotional
decision.
It's something that you havedeliberated about and thought
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about.
The word faith is based off ofthe Greek word pistis, which
means to be firmly persuaded.
Many critics and skeptics liketo say, oh, you just have blind
faith, you'll believe anything.
No, true faith is one where youhave considered all of the
possibilities and all of theramifications and all of the
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testifying miracles that weredone and such, creation itself
and who God is.
Then you become firmly persuadedto place your trust and belief
in Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_00 (17:48):
The writer here is telling us to consider Jesus.
That means to think long anddeep about Jesus.
We are to seriously think aboutJesus.
Christianity is for thinkingpeople, and we are here
commanded to spend time thinkingabout who Jesus is and what he
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has done.
My friend, have you consideredJesus?
The book of Hebrews gives usplenty of things to consider
about Jesus.
It's already told us that he isGod and He is man.
Those alone are great things toconsider.
He is the apostle and highpriest of our faith.
He is the one that is faithful.
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He is more worthy than Moses.
He is the one to be considered.
I submit to the skeptic and theatheist, have you truly
considered Jesus?
To the follower of otherreligions, I ask you, have you
considered the claims of whoJesus is and what he did?
To the secular people out therewho don't think religion is
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worth your time, that this isn'tworth any moments of your day,
have you taken the time to trulyconsider Jesus?
To the churchgoer who is justhere for the religion or just
here for the cultural aspects ofChristianity, have you
considered the love and theperson of Jesus?
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This is what we should do isconsider this person Jesus.
This tells us in this book sofar that Jesus is more than just
one thing.
Verse 1 refers to Jesus as bothapostle and high priest.
An apostle comes from God with amessage, while a high priest
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goes from the people torepresent them before God.
Jesus is both an apostle andhigh priest.
He is both infinite God andfinite man.
He is both died and is aliveagain.
Verse 1 is the second time thebook has referred to Jesus as
high priest.
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The high priest alwaysrepresents the people before
God.
Steve, if the nation did nothave a high priest, what would
be the implication for ourfaith?
SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
Well, we wouldn't have a representative.
That's the picture that we getthrough the Mosaic Law, through
all of those ordinances andstatutes.
Really, everything points toJesus Christ.
By looking at those and theinstruments that were used and
everything else, it points tohaving someone to be a high
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priest.
Through all of the sacrificesand rituals that the Israel
people did that God gave tothem, now we can associate
having that high priest that wasa representation of the nation
of Israel to God when he went inbehind the holy veil there and
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put the blood of the sacrificeas atonement on the Ark of the
Covenant.
Well, now we have Jesus Christ,who is a high priest of not just
the nation of Israel, but of allmankind.
That is the implication, is thathe is there as a representation
for us, mankind himself.
SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
How wonderful Jesus is.
The passage just keeps going andgoing higher and higher up into
the stratosphere here.
Verse 2, he was faithful to himwho appointed him.
He's talking there about Jesus,the Son, was faithful to the
Father who appointed him intothe role of what he was to do as
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the Son.
Steve, I ask you, is Jesusfaithful?
Has he been faithful to youpersonally?
SPEAKER_01 (21:43):
He was faithful even unto death, as Peter puts it in
one of his epistles.
He has absolutely been faithfulto me.
As I mentioned in earliersessions, we talked about
suffering.
What can we learn from it?
Whenever we get into a situationwhere we're in a bind of one way
or another, first thing that wego to, or at least I do, is go
to Jesus and plead our case tohim and ask for mercy, or maybe
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even just ask for companionshipor ask for him to acknowledge
what we're going through.
So, yes, he's been faithful inthat particular way, as well as
many other ways to mepersonally.
He can be that way to youpersonally as well, whenever you
place your belief and trust inhim.
SPEAKER_00 (22:29):
Because Jesus is faithful, he's been faithful to
me, he's proved it over andover.
But in the scriptures, we'regiven that he's faithful as
well.
Because he is faithful, we candepend on all that he promised.
He promised a great deal and hegave us guidance.
We can trust that guidance, wecan trust what he promised.
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Why?
Not because of me and what's inme or what's in you.
It's because he is faithful.
Now, if we turn that around andask about humans, if I was to
ask, are humans faithful to Godor are we unfaithful to God?
Well, humans have to learn howto be faithful.
We must be taught how to befaithful.
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We must be given the Holy Spiritto give us the power to be
faithful, because in and ofourselves, we have proven that
we are unfaithful to God.
We can rest in Christ because weknow that He is faithful and He
is our advocate before theFather, but we cannot trust in
our own strength simply becausewe have proven over and over
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again that we're not faithful.
Steve, have you found this to betrue as well?
SPEAKER_01 (23:37):
Yes, I have.
As I mentioned before, he's thefirst person that I go to
whenever I get myself into abind or find myself in a bind, I
should say.
Of course, that doesn't meanthat's the only time that I go
to him.
I go to him on a daily basis,just as a matter of my walk
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through life, living the lifethat we have in this world, and
we see all of the evil thingsthat are being done, and things
that don't make sense.
There's a lot of good thingsthat are done as well.
But there's also a lot of justthings that just don't make
sense and evilness that's in theworld.
So being able to go and conversewith Jesus Christ on a daily
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basis and learn more about himbrings such comfort to me
personally.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
We also have some lofty doctrine here in verse
two.
Again, it says he was faithfulto him who appointed him.
The new way you slice it,there's two persons there.
There's the son and the father.
Yet we are told in chapter one,he went over and over again,
very clear, that Jesus is God.
Therefore, we have Jesus as God,but we have two persons here.
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Therefore, the Trinity is true.
Jesus is not the Father.
There's a heresy out there thatsays the Father became the Son,
because here he was faithful tohim who appointed him.
There's two persons there.
Jesus is God, chapter one, buthe's not the same person as the
Father.
Then starting with verse two,Jesus is being compared with
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Moses.
Jesus was faithful like Moseswas.
Jesus has more glory than Moses.
Moses was a servant, but Jesusis a son.
Chapter three is saying thatJesus is superior to Moses.
Question.
The last part of verse threegives the reason why Jesus has
more glory than Moses.
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What is the reason that it givesin the last part of verse three?
SPEAKER_01 (25:33):
Because he says that Moses was faithful to the house,
being the house of Israel.
And here he's saying that Jesushimself is the builder of the
house.
Who is the greater among thosetwo?
The one that's faithful to thehouse that was built, or the one
that built the house himself andwas faithful.
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So it's very clear here thatthat's why Jesus is above Moses,
is because he is the builder ofthe house itself.
SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
The house here would be the house of Israel, the
house of God's people.
This book is not really so muchtalking about personal salvation
as it is the person of Jesus andhis relationship to mankind,
especially his people.
That's what it says here.
So this house is the house ofIsrael, the house of God's
people.
Then in verse four, it says thatGod is the builder of all
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things.
Verse five, Moses was faithful,but he was faithful as a
servant.
Verse six, Christ is faithful,but he's faithful as a son, not
a hired servant.
Jesus is faithful over all ofGod's house.
Moses was faithful, but he wasfaithful like a servant is
faithful.
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Jesus is faithful like he is theowner's family.
He is the owner.
He is the designer and builderof the house.
It's lifting up Jesus as high ashe can be lifted.
Jesus is more glorious thanMoses.
Jesus is not a hired servant,but was a son.
The son is greater than thehired servant.
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The builder of all things isGod, it says here in this verse.
Therefore, the passage iscomparing Jesus to God as the
builder of the house.
Steve, how glorious is Jesus?
SPEAKER_01 (27:22):
Well, he's the pinnacle of everything.
If you remember the story of thecreation of the house of Israel,
the nation, is that it wascreated by God himself, in that
Abraham was a Chaldean.
God comes to him and says,Follow me, and I'll give you
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this land, make you a greatnation, and a seed will come for
you that will bless all othernations.
And it says Abraham believedGod, and God reckoned it as
righteousness.
From that offspring of Isaac andthen Jacob, we get the nation of
Israel.
The nation of Israel issomething that was built and
created by God.
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That I think is what this authoris telling the people here.
And again, the book's name isHebrews.
He's writing to a group ofHebrew believers.
As he mentions this house ofIsrael, and at the latter part
of six, and he says, Whose housewe are, it's talking about the
house of Israel.
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It's very much relative thatagain, Israel wasn't a nation
that existed on its own, meaningthat Abraham was a nation on his
own and then became followers ofGod.
No, the nation of Israel was onethat was pulled out and called
out and became something thatGod built himself to be set
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apart amongst all the othernations, so that he could reveal
himself to all the other nationsas being their God.
I think it's very much keepingin line with who the author is
writing to.
He's talking about that Jesus isabove Moses, because Moses was
faithful as a servant, but Jesusas God was the one who created
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this nation himself.
He's the house builder of thenation of Israel.
SPEAKER_00 (29:18):
This is lifting up Jesus so high and it's so
wonderful.
If we ask ourselves why, whyJesus is worthy, it's because he
is the builder of the house.
As it's said so far in the book,he is superior to angels, he is
superior to prophets, he issuperior to Moses, he is
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faithful to the Father, he isfaithful to us, and we are the
house, it says there.
So he's writing thisspecifically to Hebrews, but it
applies to all believers inChrist.
All those who hold Jesus astheir blessed hope are the
family of God.
Several times in Hebrews itrefers.
Refers to Jesus as our hope.
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This is not the hope ofdoubting, but it's the opposite,
the confidence in the future.
And before we leave thispassage, I think we need to
cover it says, Whose house weare if we hold fast our
confidence and the boast of ourhope firm until the end.
Well, the hope is Jesus.
It's not a doubting hope, but Iwant to talk about that little
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word if.
This is not the if of like adoubting if.
The Oxford English Dictionarysays that the word if can be,
quote, introducing a clause ofcondition or supposition.
The word if, therefore, can meansupposing that.
For example, if we look inColossians chapter 2, verse 12,
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says, quote, which you were alsoraised up with him through
faith.
So it's saying that Christianswere raised up with him.
But then just a few verses laterin Colossians 3.1, therefore, if
you have been raised up withChrist, so he uses the word if
as a logical argument.
He's using it in many timessince you were.
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Steve, how wonderful it is thatwe can live life on a daily
basis, just being confident thatI don't have to worry about me
being good enough, me beingstrong enough, me living a
perfect life.
I have been forgiven, I've beenwashed.
He's the one that's faithful.
He is our high priest that isconstantly in there making
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intercession for us.
All I have to do is fall at hisfeet and love him, and I will
forever be his brethren.
That's what the book of Hebrewsis teaching, how wonderful that
is.
SPEAKER_01 (32:01):
Another way I put it is to be able to have confidence
to just go out and live theChristian life.
Galatians talks aboutjustification.
Colossians gives us that pictureof all the characteristics and
attributes that we get by beingsomebody that's in Christ.
And we then have thatconfidence, as I said, to just
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go live the Christian life andnot have doubt of our salvation
hanging over us.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
Well, we're still way up here in the rarefied air
of Hebrews, but next time we'regoing to find another one of
those steel cables that's goingto anchor us down to the ground
with a very sober warning.
And I trust you'll be back herefor that as we continue to
reason through the book ofHebrews.
Thank you so much for watchingand listening.
Many governments have representatives of the
people that the people willelect to go represent them at
the Capitol.
Well, we have something similarto that in religious ceremonies,
at least in the Old Testamentreligious ceremonies, the priest
had to be part of the people.
And he represented the people toGod in the temple ceremonies.
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Well, today we're going to meetthe high priest, the one who was
the most important high priest.
Hi, my name's Glenn.
I'm here with Steve.
We have a ministry we callReasoning Through the Bible.
Today we're in the book ofHebrews and we're introduced to
the concept of a high priest.
With this, we're going to seehow Jesus is our high priest.
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Hebrews chapter one has Jesus asGod Almighty.
Hebrews chapter two has Jesus asman.
Towards the end of chapter two,it mentions Jesus as being the
high priest.
Steve, what was the role of thehigh priest in the Old Testament
ceremony?
SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
Well, the priesthood came out of the tribe of Levi or
Levi, and they were responsiblefor taking care of all of the
sacrifices and the templeworship for the people and
representatives for them.
The common priest would, as Imentioned, take care of some of
the things of relighting thelamp stat, the menorah that was
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in the tabernacle, refreshingthe show bread, keeping the
altar of incense going, and ofcourse, all the sacrifices that
were going on outside.
But the high priest, there wasonly one of them that served at
any given point in time.
There weren't multiple highpriests.
And the high priest wasresponsible for not only
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overseeing the other priests,but once a year on the Day of
Atonement, he would go into theHoly of Holies.
That was an area where the Arkof the Covenant was.
It was separated by a large,thick veil that was between it
and the regular holy place wherethe menorah lampstand and the uh
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table of showbread was.
He would go in and sprinkle theblood of the atonement sacrifice
on the Ark of the Covenant.
He would do that once a year.
That was what the responsibilityof the high priest was.
SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
The priest would go into the temple or tabernacle
and have priestly duties he hadto do to represent the people to
God.
A prophet in the Old Testamentwas one who took God's message
and spoke to the people in thename of God.
If you were with us when westudied Ezekiel, Ezekiel would
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often act out things as if hewere God, and he would separate
himself from the people.
For example, a prophet, or inthe New Testament sense, an
apostle would speak for God tothe people.
A priest would do just theopposite.
A priest was part of the people,and he would represent the
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people to God, specifically inthe tabernacle.
Now, today we often get this allconfused, and we put a priest up
on a pedestal and think this isa person that speaks for God,
that there's some sort of a holyperson that would have some sort
of a blessing from God in thesense of like a prophet or an
apostle.
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That's not the case.
A priest represents the peopleto God.
This becomes important becauseHebrews 2.17 tells us why Jesus
had to be a man.
It says, therefore, he, Jesus,had to be made like his brethren
in all things, so that he mightbecome a merciful and faithful
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high priest in things pertainingto God to make propitiation for
the sins of the people.
Jesus had to be human so that hecould be the high priest, so he
could then represent people toGod.
Now we have in the book ofHebrews, chapter one had Jesus
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as God so he could be sinless.
Chapter two, Jesus as man, sothat he could pay for our sins.
Also in chapter two, Jesus asman, so he could be our high
priest that goes before God tobe our intercessor and advocate.
That's a wonderful thing, Steve,that we have an advocate that is
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a perfectly sinless high priest,but he goes to represent us.
He had to be man so that hecould represent us to God.
And that's a theme, really, ofthis whole book.
This is the first that's beenintroduced here, but we're going
to see much more of this in thebook of Hebrews.
SPEAKER_01 (05:20):
Yeah, it goes back to what we've mentioned before
is that it's just a wonderfulthat Jesus has gone to this
length and extent in order tocommunicate and with mankind
himself and provide this way ofsalvation that we can have to be
able to spend eternity with him.
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Words just really can't describeit.
SPEAKER_00 (05:42):
We're also introduced to a five-syllable
theological word here that'sintroduced to us here in 217.
Jesus made propitiation for thesins of the people.
Now, propitiation, I think, camefrom the old King James.
It's there's a lot of historicaltheology built around it, so the
translators keep using the wordhere.
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But propitiation, not a word weoften hear in common
conversation.
What it really means is to wipeout the separation from God.
Or propitiate means to cause areconciliation, to reconcile two
different groups that had beenseparated.
Propitiation is a satisfactionof the offense that we caused
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against God.
As high priest, Jesus can makethe sacrifice that satisfies the
justice and wrath of a perfectlyholy God.
Jesus can then be just himselfand be the justifier of mankind.
Because he was the sinless highpriest, he could go in and offer
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the sacrifice, which in thiscase is himself, that would
satisfy a God.
He would propitiate or make away back.
He satisfies God.
Steve, how wonderful it is thatJesus is both our just and our
justifier.
He is both the high priest andthe sacrifice that makes a way
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back to God.
How wonderful is that?
SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
I've often described this as being a satisfactory
sacrifice, meaning that it tookGod Himself to be able to be a
satisfactory sacrifice tosatisfy the debt that needed to
be paid.
Once again, it's just a pictureof what we mean to God and Jesus
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in order to come and associatewith us, call us brethren.
It also gives us a picture ofsomething that we can depend on
because it is a satisfactorysacrifice.
It's not a sacrifice that has tobe done every year.
It's not a sacrifice that's donewith the blood of bulls or
goats.
It's one that is done, as hementioned at the end on the
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cross.
It is finished.
It's been done once and for all,and it has met all the
requirements.
There doesn't have to beanything else that needs to be
done.
And we can take rest in that ofknowing that by trusting in
Jesus Christ, we don't have toworry about any type of
sacrifice that has to be doneperiodically once a year for
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that purpose.
There's only one.
No more have to be done.
SPEAKER_00 (08:27):
That brings us to the beginning of chapter three.
Just to touch base on where weare at this point in the book.
We've seen in chapters one andtwo who he is.
Now in chapter three, we'regoing to begin to see what he
has done.
In chapter three, it's going toshow Jesus as greater than
Moses.
We've been warned about thedanger of drifting away from the
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truth.
Well, chapter three is going towarn us about the danger of an
unbelieving heart and thedeceitfulness of sin.
So far in the book, we've seenJesus as superior to the
prophets, superior to theangels, and now he's going to be
shown to be superior to Moses.
Steve, can you read the firstsix verses of Hebrews chapter
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three?
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a
heavenly calling, considerJesus, the apostle and high
priest of our confession.
He was faithful to him whoappointed him, as Moses also was
in all his house.
For he has been counted worthyof more glory than Moses, by
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just so much as the builder ofthe house has more honor than
the house.
For every house is built bysomeone, but the builder of all
things is God.
Now Moses was faithful in allhis house as a servant for a
testimony of those things whichwere to be spoken later, but
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Christ was faithful as a sonover his house, whose house we
are, if we hold fast ourconfidence and the boast of our
hope firm until the end.
SPEAKER_00 (10:05):
Verse 1 starts out speaking to holy brethren.
Now, Steve, I don't know aboutyou, but I don't feel very holy.
SPEAKER_01 (10:11):
How about you?
Well, I think that he'scombining some of the previous
things he's talked about.
He talked about sanctification,the ones who were sanctified.
We mentioned that that was beingset apart.
That's what the word holy means.
Holy means the same thing.
Somebody is set apart.
In the previous chapter, hementioned that he calls us
brethren.
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The author here is, I think,putting those two concepts
together as he begins this thirdchapter.
Of course, in the originalletter, there weren't chapter
and verses, but the person thatdivided this done it in such a
way that now, as we startchapter three, it's also in a
steady flow of what wasmentioned before in chapter two
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of being sanctified and alsobeing called brethren.
Here, he calls them holybrethren.
SPEAKER_00 (10:59):
He calls them holy brethren, partakers of a
heavenly calling.
I said a while ago, I don't feelvery holy.
Well, the important thing hereis that we don't base the facts
on our feelings.
It doesn't matter how we feel.
God has declared us holy.
We have a righteousness that isgiven to us through Christ.
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Now, we should, as is taughtmany places in the New
Testament, we should yield tothe Holy Spirit's guidance to
live holy lives.
When our flesh gets in the way,that's when we get into
unholiness.
We should indeed yield to theHoly Spirit to lead increasingly
righteous lives.
But our position in Christ isdue to God's declaration, not
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our feelings.
It doesn't matter how I feel, itmatters what God has declared.
So, Steve, should we base ourposition in Christ on our
feelings?
SPEAKER_01 (11:56):
Absolutely not.
We should not base our positionor standing before God solely
based upon our feelings.
SPEAKER_00 (12:02):
Our position in Christ is determined by God, and
God has declared us holy.
I remember in Corinthians, hestarts off the book talking
about sanctified people and thenspends most of the book talking
about problems they all had andsins they all had, but yet they
were sanctified.
So our position in Hebrews 3:1is we are holy brethren, and we
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should act like holy brethren.
But when we don't, we don't haveto worry about being thrown out
of God's family.
He has declared us holybrethren.
Our position in Christ is notbased on our feelings, it's
based on God's declaration.
That brings the next question.
So then how can God declare usholy?
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In what sense are we declaredholy?
Well, the sense is Abrahambelieved God and it was counted
as righteousness.
But it's quoted in Genesis 15:6,Romans 4.3, 4.22, and Galatians
3.6.
We are declared righteous by Godbased on faith.
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Romans 4.5 says ourrighteousness before God is not
based on good works, but ratherour faith is counted as
righteousness.
In that sense, anyone with faiththat truly trusts Christ is a
holy brethren, regardless of ourfeelings.
It also says here that we arepartakers of a heavenly calling.
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What sort of heavenly calling doChristians share, Steve?
SPEAKER_01 (13:38):
Well, we share a common calling in that we are
all invited to become a followerin Jesus Christ.
That's the Greek word behindthis word calling.
It's an invitation.
So it's very clear that Jesus,through his ministry, he invited
all that would to come andfollow him.
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We're all invited to followJesus Christ.
Jesus said, I am the way, thetruth, and the life.
No man comes to the Father butthrough me.
We are all, in one way oranother, whether through a
somebody we know personally, orwhether it's through a ministry
or studying the scriptureitself, there is an invitation
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to follow Jesus Christ in orderto have that eternal salvation.
Believe and trust in Him.
SPEAKER_00 (14:27):
Our heavenly calling has several aspects to it.
Not only the salvation, whichyou mentioned, Steve, but we are
called to fellowship with Christas a personal fellowship with
Christ Himself.
That is a heavenly calling.
We're also called to makedisciples through the Great
Commission in Matthew 28.
We are called to heavenly dutiesto support the kingdom.
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We are all part of the body, andwe all have a function in the
Great Commission.
Our calling is of heavenlyimportance, and we should take
our calling seriously.
As Christians, the firstquestion I asked a minute ago is
about how we feel.
Well, we shouldn't base ouractions on our feelings.
God has declared us holybrethren that has a heavenly
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calling.
And as such, we should viewourselves with this heavenly
calling and take it veryseriously.
Our lives and our daily walk, weshould live holy lives.
And we should live livesdedicated to Jesus and walking
in his path, doing his service,following what he has called us
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to do.
And when we do that, we areindeed holy brethren with a
heavenly calling.
We need to have that of utmostimportance.
We need to keep it before oureyes and realize that the great
importance, the eternalimportance that we take this
seriously, our heavenly calling.
Then it says, consider Jesus.
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The holy brethren with aheavenly calling should consider
Jesus.
This could be the rallying cryof the book of Hebrews, consider
Jesus.
We are to give careful, lengthy,and thoughtful consideration of
Jesus.
The word here means to thinkabout, to put your mind in gear,
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to mull over, to chew it in yourmind, to go over it.
Consider who he is.
He is God and man.
Consider what he has done.
He has submitted himself andbecame a man, a lowly man, and
he submitted himself all the wayto death on a cross.
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We should consider Jesus what heis doing right now, which is
interceding for his brethren.
Steve, what do you think of whenyou consider Jesus?
SPEAKER_01 (16:51):
I do just that.
I do consider all of the thingsthat he's done for us in the way
that he has made it possible forus to be able to have an eternal
life with him.
You get the picture that it'snot something that's done on a
whim.
It's not something that's justdone based off of an emotional
decision.
It's something that you havedeliberated about and thought
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about.
The word faith is based off ofthe Greek word pistis, which
means to be firmly persuaded.
Many critics and skeptics liketo say, oh, you just have blind
faith, you'll believe anything.
No, true faith is one where youhave considered all of the
possibilities and all of theramifications and all of the
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testifying miracles that weredone and such, creation itself
and who God is.
Then you become firmly persuadedto place your trust and belief
in Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_00 (17:48):
The writer here is telling us to consider Jesus.
That means to think long anddeep about Jesus.
We are to seriously think aboutJesus.
Christianity is for thinkingpeople, and we are here
commanded to spend time thinkingabout who Jesus is and what he
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has done.
My friend, have you consideredJesus?
The book of Hebrews gives usplenty of things to consider
about Jesus.
It's already told us that he isGod and He is man.
Those alone are great things toconsider.
He is the apostle and highpriest of our faith.
He is the one that is faithful.
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He is more worthy than Moses.
He is the one to be considered.
I submit to the skeptic and theatheist, have you truly
considered Jesus?
To the follower of otherreligions, I ask you, have you
considered the claims of whoJesus is and what he did?
To the secular people out therewho don't think religion is
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worth your time, that this isn'tworth any moments of your day,
have you taken the time to trulyconsider Jesus?
To the churchgoer who is justhere for the religion or just
here for the cultural aspects ofChristianity, have you
considered the love and theperson of Jesus?
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This is what we should do isconsider this person Jesus.
This tells us in this book sofar that Jesus is more than just
one thing.
Verse 1 refers to Jesus as bothapostle and high priest.
An apostle comes from God with amessage, while a high priest
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goes from the people torepresent them before God.
Jesus is both an apostle andhigh priest.
He is both infinite God andfinite man.
He is both died and is aliveagain.
Verse 1 is the second time thebook has referred to Jesus as
high priest.
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The high priest alwaysrepresents the people before
God.
Steve, if the nation did nothave a high priest, what would
be the implication for ourfaith?
SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
Well, we wouldn't have a representative.
That's the picture that we getthrough the Mosaic Law, through
all of those ordinances andstatutes.
Really, everything points toJesus Christ.
By looking at those and theinstruments that were used and
everything else, it points tohaving someone to be a high
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priest.
Through all of the sacrificesand rituals that the Israel
people did that God gave tothem, now we can associate
having that high priest that wasa representation of the nation
of Israel to God when he went inbehind the holy veil there and
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put the blood of the sacrificeas atonement on the Ark of the
Covenant.
Well, now we have Jesus Christ,who is a high priest of not just
the nation of Israel, but of allmankind.
That is the implication, is thathe is there as a representation
for us, mankind himself.
SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
How wonderful Jesus is.
The passage just keeps going andgoing higher and higher up into
the stratosphere here.
Verse 2, he was faithful to himwho appointed him.
He's talking there about Jesus,the Son, was faithful to the
Father who appointed him intothe role of what he was to do as
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the Son.
Steve, I ask you, is Jesusfaithful?
Has he been faithful to youpersonally?
SPEAKER_01 (21:43):
He was faithful even unto death, as Peter puts it in
one of his epistles.
He has absolutely been faithfulto me.
As I mentioned in earliersessions, we talked about
suffering.
What can we learn from it?
Whenever we get into a situationwhere we're in a bind of one way
or another, first thing that wego to, or at least I do, is go
to Jesus and plead our case tohim and ask for mercy, or maybe
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even just ask for companionshipor ask for him to acknowledge
what we're going through.
So, yes, he's been faithful inthat particular way, as well as
many other ways to mepersonally.
He can be that way to youpersonally as well, whenever you
place your belief and trust inhim.
SPEAKER_00 (22:29):
Because Jesus is faithful, he's been faithful to
me, he's proved it over andover.
But in the scriptures, we'regiven that he's faithful as
well.
Because he is faithful, we candepend on all that he promised.
He promised a great deal and hegave us guidance.
We can trust that guidance, wecan trust what he promised.
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Why?
Not because of me and what's inme or what's in you.
It's because he is faithful.
Now, if we turn that around andask about humans, if I was to
ask, are humans faithful to Godor are we unfaithful to God?
Well, humans have to learn howto be faithful.
We must be taught how to befaithful.
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We must be given the Holy Spiritto give us the power to be
faithful, because in and ofourselves, we have proven that
we are unfaithful to God.
We can rest in Christ because weknow that He is faithful and He
is our advocate before theFather, but we cannot trust in
our own strength simply becausewe have proven over and over
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again that we're not faithful.
Steve, have you found this to betrue as well?
SPEAKER_01 (23:37):
Yes, I have.
As I mentioned before, he's thefirst person that I go to
whenever I get myself into abind or find myself in a bind, I
should say.
Of course, that doesn't meanthat's the only time that I go
to him.
I go to him on a daily basis,just as a matter of my walk
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through life, living the lifethat we have in this world, and
we see all of the evil thingsthat are being done, and things
that don't make sense.
There's a lot of good thingsthat are done as well.
But there's also a lot of justthings that just don't make
sense and evilness that's in theworld.
So being able to go and conversewith Jesus Christ on a daily
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basis and learn more about himbrings such comfort to me
personally.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
We also have some lofty doctrine here in verse
two.
Again, it says he was faithfulto him who appointed him.
The new way you slice it,there's two persons there.
There's the son and the father.
Yet we are told in chapter one,he went over and over again,
very clear, that Jesus is God.
Therefore, we have Jesus as God,but we have two persons here.
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Therefore, the Trinity is true.
Jesus is not the Father.
There's a heresy out there thatsays the Father became the Son,
because here he was faithful tohim who appointed him.
There's two persons there.
Jesus is God, chapter one, buthe's not the same person as the
Father.
Then starting with verse two,Jesus is being compared with
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Moses.
Jesus was faithful like Moseswas.
Jesus has more glory than Moses.
Moses was a servant, but Jesusis a son.
Chapter three is saying thatJesus is superior to Moses.
Question.
The last part of verse threegives the reason why Jesus has
more glory than Moses.
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What is the reason that it givesin the last part of verse three?
SPEAKER_01 (25:33):
Because he says that Moses was faithful to the house,
being the house of Israel.
And here he's saying that Jesushimself is the builder of the
house.
Who is the greater among thosetwo?
The one that's faithful to thehouse that was built, or the one
that built the house himself andwas faithful.
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So it's very clear here thatthat's why Jesus is above Moses,
is because he is the builder ofthe house itself.
SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
The house here would be the house of Israel, the
house of God's people.
This book is not really so muchtalking about personal salvation
as it is the person of Jesus andhis relationship to mankind,
especially his people.
That's what it says here.
So this house is the house ofIsrael, the house of God's
people.
Then in verse four, it says thatGod is the builder of all
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things.
Verse five, Moses was faithful,but he was faithful as a
servant.
Verse six, Christ is faithful,but he's faithful as a son, not
a hired servant.
Jesus is faithful over all ofGod's house.
Moses was faithful, but he wasfaithful like a servant is
faithful.
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Jesus is faithful like he is theowner's family.
He is the owner.
He is the designer and builderof the house.
It's lifting up Jesus as high ashe can be lifted.
Jesus is more glorious thanMoses.
Jesus is not a hired servant,but was a son.
The son is greater than thehired servant.
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The builder of all things isGod, it says here in this verse.
Therefore, the passage iscomparing Jesus to God as the
builder of the house.
Steve, how glorious is Jesus?
SPEAKER_01 (27:22):
Well, he's the pinnacle of everything.
If you remember the story of thecreation of the house of Israel,
the nation, is that it wascreated by God himself, in that
Abraham was a Chaldean.
God comes to him and says,Follow me, and I'll give you
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this land, make you a greatnation, and a seed will come for
you that will bless all othernations.
And it says Abraham believedGod, and God reckoned it as
righteousness.
From that offspring of Isaac andthen Jacob, we get the nation of
Israel.
The nation of Israel issomething that was built and
created by God.
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That I think is what this authoris telling the people here.
And again, the book's name isHebrews.
He's writing to a group ofHebrew believers.
As he mentions this house ofIsrael, and at the latter part
of six, and he says, Whose housewe are, it's talking about the
house of Israel.
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It's very much relative thatagain, Israel wasn't a nation
that existed on its own, meaningthat Abraham was a nation on his
own and then became followers ofGod.
No, the nation of Israel was onethat was pulled out and called
out and became something thatGod built himself to be set
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apart amongst all the othernations, so that he could reveal
himself to all the other nationsas being their God.
I think it's very much keepingin line with who the author is
writing to.
He's talking about that Jesus isabove Moses, because Moses was
faithful as a servant, but Jesusas God was the one who created
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this nation himself.
He's the house builder of thenation of Israel.
SPEAKER_00 (29:18):
This is lifting up Jesus so high and it's so
wonderful.
If we ask ourselves why, whyJesus is worthy, it's because he
is the builder of the house.
As it's said so far in the book,he is superior to angels, he is
superior to prophets, he issuperior to Moses, he is
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faithful to the Father, he isfaithful to us, and we are the
house, it says there.
So he's writing thisspecifically to Hebrews, but it
applies to all believers inChrist.
All those who hold Jesus astheir blessed hope are the
family of God.
Several times in Hebrews itrefers.
Refers to Jesus as our hope.
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This is not the hope ofdoubting, but it's the opposite,
the confidence in the future.
And before we leave thispassage, I think we need to
cover it says, Whose house weare if we hold fast our
confidence and the boast of ourhope firm until the end.
Well, the hope is Jesus.
It's not a doubting hope, but Iwant to talk about that little
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word if.
This is not the if of like adoubting if.
The Oxford English Dictionarysays that the word if can be,
quote, introducing a clause ofcondition or supposition.
The word if, therefore, can meansupposing that.
For example, if we look inColossians chapter 2, verse 12,
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says, quote, which you were alsoraised up with him through
faith.
So it's saying that Christianswere raised up with him.
But then just a few verses laterin Colossians 3.1, therefore, if
you have been raised up withChrist, so he uses the word if
as a logical argument.
He's using it in many timessince you were.
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Steve, how wonderful it is thatwe can live life on a daily
basis, just being confident thatI don't have to worry about me
being good enough, me beingstrong enough, me living a
perfect life.
I have been forgiven, I've beenwashed.
He's the one that's faithful.
He is our high priest that isconstantly in there making
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intercession for us.
All I have to do is fall at hisfeet and love him, and I will
forever be his brethren.
That's what the book of Hebrewsis teaching, how wonderful that
is.
SPEAKER_01 (32:01):
Another way I put it is to be able to have confidence
to just go out and live theChristian life.
Galatians talks aboutjustification.
Colossians gives us that pictureof all the characteristics and
attributes that we get by beingsomebody that's in Christ.
And we then have thatconfidence, as I said, to just
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go live the Christian life andnot have doubt of our salvation
hanging over us.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
Well, we're still way up here in the rarefied air
of Hebrews, but next time we'regoing to find another one of
those steel cables that's goingto anchor us down to the ground
with a very sober warning.
And I trust you'll be back herefor that as we continue to
reason through the book ofHebrews.
Thank you so much for watchingand listening.
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