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March 10, 2025 61 mins

Join Christine and Michelle as they embark on a new season to Recap the 48th Season of Survivor!

In the 2nd episode of the season, alliances are already breaking as new alliances form. Another hidden Immunity Idol is found as the scheming and lies get bigger and better. 

The team challenge offers tribe Immunity and fishing gear. After diving, balancing and shooting baskets Civa emerges victorious.  The Vulu tribe looses again and faces Tribal Counsel for a second week to vote out another tribe member.

You've never had a reap of Survivor like this before!   Grab a glass of wine and join the extraordinary fun that is Recapaholics!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Recapaholics.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Christine and I'm Michelle, and we're two
lifelong friends and moms wholike to drink wine and gab about
reality shows.
So thank you for joining us andstick around.
I'm gonna make it.
Keep on surviving, I'm notgonna give up.
I'm not gonna stop.

(00:24):
I'm gonna work harder.
I'm gonna work harder.
I'm gonna make it.
I'm gonna survive.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my Yankees, have you heard of that?
What Like Levi or yeah, keysLike G-E-N-E, like your jeans,
and it's called human design.
That's what it is, but it'sbased on your birthday, yeah,
but I feel like I got to go backand look like I think she that

(00:59):
T is amazing, right?
I feel like she asked me someother key things about myself
and she said that my manifestinggenerator is energy.
She says that my generatormakes people happy.
Is that what we're calling itnow?
Not by that.
You know, psychics I've everseen, or any readings I've ever
had, make me and my husbandbasically totally incompatible

(01:23):
with one another.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
There might be something to that.
I, I, Nick and I no one like noVirgos, don't get along with
anyone.
The most compatible thing aVirgo can marry is another Virgo
, because we just hate everyone.
No one's compatible.
The second one if we have totolerate another human being
Taurus and Nick's a Taurus, ohokay.
If you have to marry outside ofa Virgo, Taurus, you settled, I

(01:49):
settled for.
Yeah, Couldn't find anotherVirgo, but I could see that two
of me would just be too much.
This is delightful tea.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That tea is very nice and I didn't have a voice at
all yesterday and now I justhave a.
Is it the cinnamon Scratchyvoice?
But I've been drinking the teaand I think it's the cinnamon.
And the honey yeah, it'slocally grown honey.
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's they say, that's what you do to help with
your allergies Well.
I have to say they that's Nick.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, I hear that From Nick.
No, oh, okay, from they.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh, from they.
They tell you that too.
Who are they, these?
Who are these theys?
Hi, michelle, hi Christine,welcome to Recapaholics.
And this week, this week, we'rereviewing Survivor, the episode
of Survivor, season 48.
That's wild to say, it's wild.

(02:43):
And it says the title for thisepisode was Humble Traits.
Yeah, and I see why.
I see why I agree with it.
That was very apropos, clever,very clever and it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
This was pretty good.
I will say that I like thisepisode better than the first
episode.
I guess it's going to getbetter every episode, and Jeff
Probst promised this to be thebest season of Survivor yet.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Doesn't he say that every season?
I don't know, maybe he doesn't.
Maybe the last few seasons he'sbeen like this is crap.
You guys should just turn off.
Just turn away right now.
But so far, so good.
And I wonder if there's adifference between I mean, now
that we're in season 48,everyone knows how to play the
game.
Yeah, everyone knows.
I should do this, I shouldmanipulate this, I should go

(03:27):
look for idols.
They already seem like oldhands at this and I wonder, if
you haven't been watching, wouldit be, I don't know, funner to
watch?
Or I don't know, like themstumbling along and making it up
as they go along, as opposed to, hey, you are my team.
Like like, pair it up rightaway.

(03:51):
Yeah, and this season is thehardcore fans, these are the.
So they know, they know, um,but not all of them seem to know
how to play the game.
In all fairness, some of themare, you know, didn't get the
same memo as the other ones did,um, but when we open up this
time, yeah, we open up where weleft off, I guess, last week
With vulva.
Well, team vulva is just wideopen.
They're laying it all out.

(04:12):
They're just discussing whatwent down in the tribal vote.
Man, stephanie had gone home.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Stephanie was the reiki, the reiki healer, and
there was a lot of tension.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
There was, you could use a Reiki healer.
The irony is she would havebeen very helpful then.
It was a lot of tension and, um, basically say, is it say, say
and Mary kind of have a showdown?
They sure do, Cause Mary votedfor say over Stephanie last week
.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And Mary comes out and admits it.
She's like, yeah, I did it.
Well, yeah, and then says like,oh, it's fine.
It's fine.
And Mary's like I don't thinkshe's fine with that.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't think she's fine and I said good for you,
Mary, Because she was obviouslylike I'm fine.
It's like when my husband askedme if I'm fine after he's left
the toilet seat up 300 times andI'm like, no, I'm fine, I'm
fine.
And he knows I'm not fine.
This was kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And then— but Say thinks that she's in charge.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, say was like I'm going to make Mary think I'm
fine, but between you and meI'm not fine.
And when they were going to bed, say said good night Mary, like
in this little baby voice andMary's like good night.
She's like I love you, mary.
Mary, will you read me a story,mary, like she's really wanting
to make.

(05:35):
Okay, she didn't say that stuff, but she was really trying to
make it seem like they were cool.
Yeah, Mary better sleep with oneeye open, absolutely, say's
coming about.
You sleep with one eye open,absolutely, space coming for you
.
It's amazing that they're like.
You know, poor mary, her, Ifeel like at this point I was
thinking all it's it's only amatter of time before.
Do we go to the siva tribe next?
Um, yeah, we go to siva, dayfour, siva.

(05:57):
Um, they seem like.
They seem like they're morecohesive and than the volvo.
They seem like they're onvacation.
They did.
I'm like this is probably theisland you want to be on.
They were all very chill andlaid back.
And again, are they the onesthat keep winning?
Yes, that's the thing, they'rethe winners.
So there's no pressure there.
And then they're all talkingabout their physical
imperfections, the humble traits, that's right.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, charity says that she has a bunk foot and she
did Dude when they showed it.
I'm like what is going on withthat?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
She should get that thing chopped off and just saw
it over.
That was a real win for her.
So how do you one-up that?
Well, you missed a perfection.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Captain.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
America himself.
But the thing is he doesn'thave anything lacking.
He has too much of somethingwhich is so captain america of
him, and he has too much of themost awesome part on the human
body.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
He's got four nipples and literally he said he had
them removed but they're stillthere, kind of there.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
why would you have those removed?
I think that's perfect for likefeeding a litter of puppies or
something.
You never know when you'regoing to need those extra
nipples.
I loved it.
I never knew I wanted extranipples on my man, and so it was
also so weird because he goes.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Well, it is interesting that I really like
milk, but it's not like I'mgoing to milk myself.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
What are you advocating for here, david?
What's going on here?
Um, do you have any oh weirdtraits?
Oh me, yeah, I'm perfect.
Oh, of course you are I.
I share my trait with Chrissythe super deep belly button, oh,
mine, goes all the way back tomy spine.
Wow, I can shove.

(07:42):
I think that could be a goodparty trick or something I can
shove.
She said Q-tips.
I'm like baby, try broomsticks,I can shove in here.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I think it's a common trait though, but, like one of
my boobs is significantly biggerthan the other, so that's not
why you're always standing,standing to the right.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's your best.
I think that's too like.
This girl is obviously biggerthan this.
Um, but I also was born withtoo much of something.
Oh, I was born with too manyfingers.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh, did you have a finger removed?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, remember I told you this I had, I had 12
fingers and, um, they were alsoremoved.
When give me this, I wouldrather the extra nipples, but I
had extra fingers and they wereremoved and everyone was like
you should have kept them.
You could play piano, blah,blah, blah, blah.
So, yeah, I should have been onthis island.
But what's her face shoulddefinitely chop off her feet.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay.
The other funny thing wasKyle's like yeah, I've had this
callus on my hand.
Okay, the other funny thing wasKyle's like yeah, I've had this
callus on my hand, oh yes, andthey're all like that's a wart.
And he's like it's not a wartand they're all like dude, he's
like I've had this callus foryears.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh, it's just so gross so he never had anyone
look at it or anything like that.
Can you have a wart for 10years?
He said.
I've had it for longer.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But if you've had it for that long, when you go just
for your physical, you don't saysomething to your doctor,
because then the doctor is goingto be like dude, that's a ward.
I don't think men go to thedoctors oh that's true.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You can't tell me the only time Captain America went
to the doctor was to have hisnipples removed.
Other than that, he's neverseen it inside of a doctor's
office.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Forget that, oh my gosh.
Well, are we going to go to theLoggie tribe next?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, we'll go to Loggie and Eva, eva, eva.
I remember when you said thatshe was a beast and I don't know
.
They were in the water At onepoint they were in the water and
she has a freaking six pack andI'm like what?
I was very impressed.

(09:44):
She has an amazing.
So this is why I think shethinks she's so physically
strong, because she is.
She is physically strong, sheis big, but other than that, she
played hockey on the boys teamOn the boys team, not with those
silly girls, the boys team andwe got to remember that she's on
the spectrum.
And she told us that in Joethat she struggled with social

(10:04):
interaction.
Yes, that she's on the spectrum.
And she told us that in joethat she struggled with social
interaction.
Yes, um, and I tried to keepthat in mind going through.
So they're discussing theupcoming challenges.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yes, challenge what's gonna come up.
And it was funny becausestraight away they know they're
gonna have to sit somebody outand eve's like yeah, we're gonna
fit.
Sit star out and star's likesit your ass down, biatch.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
She was not having that star flipped out, just she
just went like a chicken withits head cut off.
She's like oh, don't tell me,don't.
She did not say any of this,eva.
She just got up and she waslike I wouldn't go look for
firewood, but we know she waslooking for an idol, because
she's like I think I need toprotect myself and she's right.
She's right it turns out.
I mean I guess we're going toget into it, but they all hate

(10:47):
her.
Yeah, they all like nobody likesher, and someone mentioned that
she kept to herself, but maybeis that why they don't like her,
because she's not an open book,like I don't know, but nobody
likes this girl, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
And there's like these hidden immunity idols.
I don't know, but nobody likesthis girl, yeah.
And and there's some like thesehidden immunity idols.
I don't know if I could findthem.
They seem really hidden.
They seem really hidden.
These guys are just findingthem right and left, left.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm like they're.
They're just everywhere.
Now, do you think it's like um?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
they, they know from seasons past.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
No, I wonder if it's gonna be hidden in the trunk of
the tree I wonder if there'slike and I always think the
worst of producers, because youknow Jeff Pobis is one, but I
always wonder, like, if they're,if they like, hey, maybe you
should go look over there, oh,giving them a little clue, yeah,

(11:39):
giving them like I mean, it's ahuge forest, it's an island,
like how do they know where tolook?
So I'm wondering if he's likemaybe Pruduce was like, you know
, you're getting warmer, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Maybe not.
It's also so surprising to me.
So Star goes out, she finds thehidden immunity idol, just like
that, and it's a huge moment.
But she doesn't keep it toherself.
Why are these guys sharingthese huge secrets with
everybody?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, she said, much like say I couldn't figure it
out.
Yeah, she was like there's noway I could figure it out, but
it had, she could have at leasttried to figure it out.
She said she had that littleround thing where you put it up
against the that thing she did.
She tried and she was like Ihave no idea what I'm supposed
to do with this Right, but Idon't know why that would make

(12:28):
her think that Joe would knowwhat to do with it.
So she immediately just startsbringing people in and bringing
people in.
Has she ever seen this showbefore?
I didn't get it.
If it was like me, if I wouldhave found the idol me, if I
would have found the idol thisis crazy stuff I would have done
.
I wrote down the clue.
Oh okay, I typed down the clue.
This puzzle locks hold a hiddenimmunity idol.

(12:49):
Securing the idol being.
Wait, maybe I didn't write itreally good.
Cracking the code begins withcracking the code.
Uh, use this guide to help.
Until you take possession ofthe idol, you cannot participate
in the vote for the tribalcouncil.
It's like SACE.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I guess yeah, and that's the thing is.
There's the threat that youcan't vote if you don't solve it
so now you're really motivatedto solve it too.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I mean it's good if you can find it, if you can
solve it, but if you can't solveit, is it worth even risking it
?
I don't know, and Joe's themost trusted guy in the whole
tribe?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Why?
Because he cried on the firstday.
Was that manipulation too?
I don't know.
I can't trust any of thesepeople.
And then Joe tells her you needto bring somebody else in.
And he wants to bring inShaheen.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Shaheen.
But of course nothing is eversimple in this game.
No, nothing's ever what itseems.
Joe tells saheem to pretend.
Yeah, I can pretend to help.
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
just help her.
Help her.
I don't understand.
They want her not to vote.
They do want her not to votewhat, what.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
and he said he was kind of balancing it the good
with the bad, like trying tofigure out if it's worth helping
her or not.
But I I'm like why would nothelp her?
Oh, because she told Joe thatshe wants to get rid of Eva.
That's right, that forgot aboutthat part.
Yes, how do you go straight to?
Let's pretend, and that's hisride or die.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Ride or die, I mean the adoption papers are in the
works.
When they get home they'regoing to sign it.
Eva's going to become hisadopted daughter when they were.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So, when eva was asleep, he slid her hand open,
yeah, and they became bloodbrothers and he was like, oh, I
mean, I've never seen anyonethis all, and I told you, that's
wild.
It's wild.
So she gives, she gives him theclue board.
Why would she?
She do that and he just runsoff with it.

(14:47):
Oh my God, she was supposed tobe distracting people, but I'm
like, why would she do that?
Who does that?
I feel like someone like me whohad never watched a show.
I wouldn't have even done that.
So I'm, I'm don't know wherethis is coming from, but she's
very trusting.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And then is that when she brought in Bianca and
Thomas, oh, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And then a star is just running around telling
everyone else.
So what was the point of herbringing in?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
The two originally.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
If you're going to go , then bring in Bianca and
Thomas.
I guess everyone except EvaEveryone except Eva Knew about
this and immediately wasincluding Thomas.
Joe Saheed Is his name, shaheen, shaheen, dude, he's the
Persian.
And, and I know, shaheen, um,but Thomas like flat out says

(15:40):
he's going to sabotage her.
Dude.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I was not seeing this from a mile away, thomas.
He came in and he goes.
We're going to pretend thatthis board gets lost.
Who is this person?
And I'm like what?
Wow, even Shaheen was like.
This is too far Wait a minute,dude.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm going to run around here in a circle, but
you're going one step too far.
He said, like this is too far,and I'm like did we miss
something?
Like, did she do something tothese people to make them want
to sabotage her?
Like that, or Thomas, justisn't who we thought he was.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well, I think, as the episode goes on, we really see
more of Thomas, and I think thathe is the devil in disguise.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know what happened to the sweet man who was hiding
in the tree like a koala.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I told you there was something about that mustache
you did?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
You said it was a mustache.
I mean, anyone that adorableeating eucalyptus leaves can
possibly be evil.
But this is dark, Thomas rising.
This is wild.
Maybe the heat's getting tothem all.
I don't know what's happening.
But he was like, yeah, justlose that.
And I'm like this show.
This show is cutthroat and Ikind of like it.

(16:47):
I'm here for it, I love it.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
The thing was it was funny because Shaheen was also
considering sabotage.
Yeah, but not to that extent.
But even he had a line ofmorale that he did not want to
cross.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Whoa, my California girl, my fellow California girl,
this is, that's too far.
Meanwhile, joe, who was down onthe beach by himself, he was
like having a meltdown, he was.
He's like his loyalty, hismoral.
He's having a moral crisis.
He's muttering to himself aboutbeing a loyal person, a

(17:20):
loyalist person.
He's too pure, and he made toomany promises and he made too
many promises.
He made too many promises, hespread too thin and then vulva.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
We are back at vulva.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
The vulva is just laying out.
In the sun Vulva, there arepests flying all around vulva.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh man, they're like maybe we should go jump in the
ocean and try to clean ourselves.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Vova needs a douche.
Team Vova is just filthy atthis point, and Justin said a
fly had been following him forthree days.
He's like the same fly.
The same fly has been following.
I know you got to clean that.
So, justin, kevin, and is thatCedric?

(18:11):
Cedric the non-entertainer?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, that's what I call him.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Kevin reminds everyone that say has an idol,
it is still in play.
Um, I don't think she's beingshy about it.
Like everyone knows, she has anidol, um, and I think then we
got a loogie.
Yeah, we did.
They have a pretty nice setup.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It was so funny.
Shaheen made wifi available.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
It had the password up there on the tree, an
electrical cord.
It was so cute.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Carved out.
I joke about having a zombieapocalypse team and I would want
him on my zombie apocalypseteam to draw stuff on a palm
tree.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I can draw stuff on your palm tree.
It wasn't real wifi, but, justin case, the password was was
DIG48.
Yes, yeah, we're not going toforget that.
Don't ever forget that.
And then here comes a boat tofuck some shit up.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
That's right.
And everybody was like, oh, theboats are arriving.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Oh, the boats.
Now again.
I don't know what this means,but they seem to all know this
was important.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yes, because they've watched the show before.
Because they've seen the showbefore.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And they don't need Mary DeSimone to tell them what
the boats are.
The boat basically brought thema note and the note said that
one person from each team mustget on the boat and make a
journey to an island.
One person needs to get on theboat and go do something A
challenge, if you would andthey're going to play a game to

(19:44):
determine and go do something, Achallenge if you would.
And they're going to play agame to determine who that
person is, which was, I think,unnecessarily complicated.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It was complicated because somebody from each team
was trying to explain the rulesto everybody else, so I think
one person made up the rules.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
And that person should just win.
If you don't understand theserules, get on the boat.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
And that person should go.
But it's kind of like a rockpaper scissors but with numbers,
and the lowest unique numberthat doesn't match anyone else's
number is the winner.
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Just the lowest number.
I don't know, but yeah, you'reright.
So for a loggy, thomas is thewinner.
Thomas is the winner.
So is Mitch.
Yes, mitch is winner for.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Siva.
Yep, and then it was funnybecause for the Volva tribe, sai
thinks that she's the winner,but that was just a practice
round.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yes, and she got really upset.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
She was pissed.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
She's such a brat man .
She's a spoil loser and a spoilwinner, all in the same thing.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
So then, they play the real round and Mary wins.
Yes, and Sai was like theseguys could have just said fine,
you win the first round.
Why didn't they back me up?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, why wouldn't they back Because she thinks
she's in charge and everyoneelse is in charge?
Yeah, and they've let herbelieve that, so heck.
So basically, it's Mitch,Thomas and Mary heading off to
this competition, whatever it'sgoing to be.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I also think that.
Did you see that Cy thinks thatshe's a little rank because she
smelled her?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
armpits.
Oh, she did.
She was wearing a guy, shewanted to go and she said the
boys should have dropped totheir knees and kissed her
chocolate hiney and let her go.
And then she, I was like she'sjust too much and Mary does her
best.
Simone Biles impression whenshe mounted that boat, see her,

(21:21):
she struggled, she ran, and thenand then say he's like.
Impression when she mountedthat boat, sarah, she struggled,
she ran, and and then and thenSay is like.
Say says to the men she's likekeep waving at Mary, keep waving
.
So she thinks we like her orsomething.
And then she took a whiff ofher armpit and that was the
realest I've ever seen.
Say, that was so funny.
Would you have smelled your ownarmpit?

(21:42):
No, no, I would have definitelytook a whiff.
It was right there, I think itwas.
The scent was so powerful, itgot our attention.
I mean, oh wait, that's me.
Um.
And then I got a commercial.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh well, and no wait it was a commercial, though can
I tell you that the first week Istruggled because I don't have
cable anymore.
You should have my ParamountPlus.
So this is the thing I haveParamount through Roku, oh okay,
but it's not Paramount Plus, ohthis is another subscription.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
No, no, no, I'll give you my.
I have.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Paramount Plus, I'll give you mine.
So the first week I was pissedoff and I had to watch it the
next day.
Oh my gosh, I don't know whathappened Anyway.
So then last week I'm like,fine, I'm going to subscribe to
Paramount+.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, it's not worth it .
Well, you already did it.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
No, I have Paramount+ .
I'll just give you my password.
My Paramount's better thanyours because I don't get
commercials, oh snap.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Can I have your Param ?
Sure you're a pair of glovesand me?
Well it's.
It's your loss, because therewas a commercial with jeff joe
popis on it.
Oh, I know what I'm calling, isit jeff?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
yeah, it's jeff jeff, if you're gonna say jeff's name
, mr probs is he just name outyour mouth, um, jeff popis.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Um, he wants me to buy the survivor card game.
Oh, I can play survivor.
Wow, I can just like go walkaround and slit my family's
throat at home.
I don't know, I don't knowwho's gonna play that, but you
know if you're gonna play a gameat home, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
This is not a commercial, but I really love
those unsolved mystery games.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
You, I can't get my family to help me.
It's so much information.
Yes, it's a lot of information.
I need someone to help me.
I have to solve this girl, howshe got to the Island and then
who murdered her.
Those are really fun.
Um, I think I'm going to do itby myself.
Unsolved case files.
Unsolved case files.
Christine's a beast at those,um, and she solves crimes in her
spare time.
And she solves crimes in herspare time.

(23:43):
That's another story.
But you do, you can hire her asa detective.
So we come back and they're allon this island another island.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yes, and an advantage awaits them.
Yeah, and it's Mitch.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Thomas the mustache.
Yes, tomas Dark, thomas Rising.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Dark Thomas Rising.
Dark Thomas Rising.
The Koala Bear he has the mostnicknames of anyone.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
The Koala Bear has turned into a bat.
Oh, it's like that.
And Mary, sweet, sweet, sweetMary, oh, they all meet up and
Mary really needs this.
She really needs it.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
You would have done good at this.
Yes, you know what?
This was a great game.
The thing is, there's a timer.
Yeah, the timer gets in thereand I was thinking when they
laid it out I'm like this is it.
We could solve this so easy.
It was three rows of numbers.
You have to only swipe onenumber off of the row at a time
and rebuild your lines so thatthey're in order from one to 15.

(24:47):
Yes, seems easy enough.
Seems easy enough.
And the thing is, thomas had agood plan in the beginning.
He got that first row quick One, two, three, four, five but
then it got tough, because thenthere's no placeholders for the
other numbers to build yourlines of 6 through 15, basically
, I feel like I sound like Ihave a lot of testosterone in my

(25:09):
voice.
You sound like that singer,Betty Davis I should go try to
find a porn film to voice over.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I could be a sexy porn voice over you have a
limited window to do somepoignant narrations in porn With
my sick voice, because that'swhat every porn has A narrator.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Michelle and I worked all day today.
We're punchy.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
We're getting a're punchy.
We're getting a little punchy,which you know the wine and
Sudafed come.
We've been snorting.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Sudafed.
Michelle got sick first and shedidn't even get me sick,
because I haven't seen her forlike more than a week my
daughter got me sick.
I don't know.
I think by osmosis you got mesick.
I just talk, it's a secret youcan't, I shouldn't have

(26:11):
mentioned it to you because itgot into your head.
Um, I'm sorry, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You think puzzles, the puzzles.
But dude, wait, no way to fallin.
This is bonkers.
This is bonkers.
There's a knock at the door isthat sexy scratchy voice?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
you know?
Is it the plumber or somethingelse, dude?
Yes, okay, I'm sorry your toolbelt looks very fine oh my
goodness, okay, I'm sorry, yourtool belt looks very fine.
Oh, my goodness.
So there's a timer.

(26:50):
So he tells them if you finishthe puzzle before the timer runs
out, you win the advantage.
So as long as you finish thepuzzle within the amount of the
sand timer, you win theadvantage.
And the advantage is that youget to make one of the other
contestants votes not count,lovely.
If you don't finish within thetimer, you don't get to vote

(27:11):
this week.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Your vote doesn't count.
Oh, that's horrible.
Mary really needs this.
She really needs this.
There is something reallysinister in my heart.
It makes me really nervousabout a sand timer.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, and you know what?
It was funny, because I thinkit was Mitch who said he wasn't
going to look at the timer thewhole time.
I think that was a way to do it.
That was a way to do it Causeit's psychologically messing you
up.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
It is messing up.
That's probably why they do it,so yeah, out the gate.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Thomas was on it and I was like, whoa, look at him.
And Mitch man, he's a rock star.
Yeah, yeah.
And Mitch man, he's a rock star.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, he came through right.
Mitch got it first, he figuredit out first.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I felt like in the end, thomas finished it, but
almost by mistake, like he waslike oh, how did that happen?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh, one two, three, four, five, six.
I got it.
What, yeah?
So basically, mitch and Thomas,they get a steal, the vote
right and Mitch gets a block ofvote.
Yeah, mary, she didn't finishin time she didn't finish in
time, I said where's Stephaniewith her Ricky heel?
Mary really needs it now.

(28:13):
She needs some of that.
What was more interesting iswhat happened.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Dude Thomas, the Dark Knight has just turned the
night black and moved all thestars.
He did this dude.
I don't know where this camefrom, what happened to him, and
he was such a smooth liar he was.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's amazing and I didn't even, I wouldn't even
thought to lie about this, butit's like so.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Because that's a pretty big thing to tell
somebody too, that you couldstill yeah and that could make
you a target.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, no, no, no, he has a steal.
He could steal someone's vote.
I think that his was a steal.
Yeah, so, like you would thinkhis nose would have like grown a
foot because he would just lieso effortlessly.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
It was so sneaky.
It's just like I did notanticipate this.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
He says he didn't get anything.
It could have been a good one,but he didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
He's sailing them.
I didn't even play.
They told us that we could dothis to win and I thought I
don't want to do that.
Yeah, I just opted out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And he sounds like a good guy and they are all like,
oh, wow, wonderful guy, wow,wonderful.
Thank you, thomas, that'samazing.
And then Mary is just up front,and why?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
the hell, didn't she lie?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
She's not, yeah, so I basically can sell someone's
vote.
She should have lied she shouldhave lied.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
That's a really good point.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I didn't even think, see, I don't even think like
this, but that's a good point,and say never miss an
opportunity to kick someone whenthey're down.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
She says you don't seem bummed about it, so that's
good what a bitch, what a bitch,sorry Say, because you know
what you might listen to it.
No, she's, and she's going tobe like who are these bitches?
What a bitch.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
We're judging you, man.
We're going to judge you forsure.
I don't think that's.
You can't deny that was abitchy move.
Then um Mitch was completelytruthful.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, completely happy, and it was a huge
personal victory for him.
Like this made his life, yes,so excited, and you know what?
It was really, I thought it wasreally sweet how charity was so
understanding of, how that wasso momentous for him.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, and she was like, and then she was like him
even telling them that she waslike he didn't have to trust us
with that Right, but he did, soshe was really touched.
I think that he didn't go aThomas route.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
The thing is is then I did see this little bit of the
side of Captain America that Ihadn't really seen before David,
oh yes.
Of the side of Captain Americathat I hadn't really seen before
.
David, oh yes, he's like Idon't really trust.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Charity, so her connection with Mitch worries me
.
Yes, yeah, so then the SIVAfoursome right is Kyle, camilla,
chrissy and David.
Yeah, so did they all springinto action to find an idol, or
was it just?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I think, yeah, I kind of think that they all went
idol hunting yeah they did.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, they split up right.
Yeah, because Captain America'slike.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I need to show them how awesome I am and really it
kind of was David and Kyle whowere paired up looking yeah yeah
, and then the girls Chrissy andCamilla.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
They paired up and he found it.
He found the beware of theadvantage, like, was it in a
tree or was it?
I thought his might have beenin the log, in the log or
something.
Yeah, so Kyle turns hiscryptogram over to his almost

(31:41):
girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, you know what His wannabe girlfriend, camilla,
the Indian princess.
She's in love with him.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
She's in love with Kyle.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
And they're waiting for a movie tonight to watch the
Departed together.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
They're going to watch a feel good movie the
Departed again, yeah, and orHoles whatever, yeah, right.
And then the way I figure islike she said it was an awesome
display of trust for him totrust her with it and I feel
like she was like seconds awayfrom boiling Kyle's bunny, so
this came at just the right time.
She's like now I can show him,I love him without killing his

(32:18):
pet.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I definitely think that bond grew stronger.
So I don't know, this is a slowburning bond.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but thatmight even be more strong in the
end.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I think, I think it's .
I think on her part it's asuper strong bond.
I don't know if if Kyle feelsthe same way that she feels
about him, or I'm just makingall this up in my head so I can
have a fun backstory.
Yeah, I feel like they have areally solid bond too.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
You remember that when Cy found it, listen was the
answer.
Yeah, same letters, but listendidn't work.
Listen didn't work.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I love how she went through it.
She was like I know all theletters.
I just have to keep goingthrough it, and you could see it
on the screen her thoughtprocess.
She is a smart lady, um, andbut wait, I keep thinking,
though, like isn't Kyle a?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
lawyer?
Yeah, he's a school teacher,I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Either way.
Either of those things shouldhave been able to do this.
Yeah Um.
So, uh, she remembers all theletters and she, she eventually
comes up with endless yeah Um.
And then it happens.
Camila has probably beenwaiting for this since she got
on the Island.
She says, uh, kyle, I figuredit out, I love you.

(33:33):
Okay, she didn't say that, butshe, she should have said that.
She said with her eyes Um, sheshould have slipped it in her
pocket and kept on rocking.
I don't know why she gave itback to him.
Do you have to give it back tohim?
You can't steal it at thatpoint, right.
But I guess she didn't do it,so she gave it back to him.
She likes his tool belt, shelikes his two belts, and it's

(33:55):
fine, because it's time forchallenging, it is right, and
it's do or dive time becausethey're diving off of it.
I, I would have immediatelybeen eliminated.
I should have been the onesetting this off.
I'm not doing any of this shit.
When they had to hold onto therope under the water.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I think when you go on the show you have to know
that you're going to have somewater challenges.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
No, one would want me on their team.
Like no one, I'm terrified offish underwater.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I thought that this was a really sweet moment of the
show.
Yes, when Mitch is trying tospeak.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And I think that being on the spot made him
stutter even more than henormally stutters and he just
went on and on and the stutters.
And we're all sitting there andeverybody's waiting, and
there's all this anticipation.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And then Joe Poba says what the fuck is wrong with
you.
Get your shit together.
You know how many people arewatching right now.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Mitch, no, he didn't say that it was so kind.
And Jeff says do you wantsomebody to help you finish your
sentence or do you like?
How are we supposed to handlethis Cause?
I think that everybody wantedto say it for him.
Yeah, I know, I was at homesaying it.
He says I just want everyone tohang in there with me and give

(35:14):
me the chance to say what I'mgoing to say.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
It took him a while to say what he wanted to say
this time it took an extremelylong.
It was so uncomfortable it it'sgood to know I never knew that
I have a friend who stutters andI was just like the word is.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
the word is so Tiffany's, and the word is go
and and Jeff said like thank youfor teaching everyone all of
America.
I never knew.
I never knew, just learned.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
And I get it.
Your mind is stuck.
You kind of work through it,work it through it.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, I guess so okay, I thought it was very
kind and sweet.
It was sweet.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Um and but it's time for a challenge.
Shut up, mitch, and get in thewater.
So this is a weird challenge, Ithink I thought it was a lot.
They have to jump off of aplatform into the water,
submerge themselves, pullthemselves along on the rope and
then release some buoys, yep.
And then they have to, likesomebody else jumps in and they

(36:06):
have to balance the buoy betweentwo sticks, yeah.
And then finally, basketball.
They play basketball with thebuoys to get it into like a
basket.
This is bonkers.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
This is bonkers, but this is all for the winning of
immunity and fishing gear, andwhich we need some protein in
our lives.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yes, immunity and fishing gear.
And which, yeah, we need someprotein in our lives.
Yes, they need fishing gear.
And, of course, eva's incommand.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, somebody, has to sit out because the vulva
team only has five players left.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes, so Only five.
Five people in that vulva, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
So so the other teams have to eliminate one, so that
they're only five as well.
The cock holes are sitting onthe side of the bull.
There was no debate about it,but star sat out, yeah I just
like, after all that pouting shedidn't.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
She was like, fine, I'll sit out.
So Camilla and Star sit out and, like I said, mary really needs
this.
She needed the other one, butshe really, really needs to show
them she can do it.
Yes, and I call her Aquawoman.
She's hung in there with theboys, yep and Joe's like a
freaking fish.
He was like swimming like adolphin.

(37:20):
And then, of course, captainAmerica, dude, david.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
His dive was like pumping form, I know.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know what?
He better be careful, peoplearen't going to like that after
a while.
The perfection isn't enduring,but she did pretty good, so
maybe Mary can pull off, maybeshe's fine.
She did her part.
So we get to the balance part.
Oh my gosh, which apparentlyshe did her part.
So it gets to the balance part.
Oh my gosh, which apparently isharder than it looks and but I

(37:48):
thought it would.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
It would go smoother than what it did well, mitch and
chrissy, they just couldn't getacross she fell.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
it was a whole thing.
Thomas got whacked in the facewith a huge pull and not the
kind that I think thomas mightlike to get whacked in the face
with Wink wink.
But then Cedric and Kevin.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Holy crap that was like an hour.
It was longer than Mitch'sstutter.
Why were the two of themstruggling so much?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Cedric, cedric, but I think it was a purposeful at
some point.
No one can follow.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
He's an oncologist.
He's used to sticking things upsmall holes.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
You should work with a vulva A vulva, but it felt
like after a while he was justjumping in the water.
He was falling back into thewater.
I don't know what was going onbetween them.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
He was in the lead.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yes, and Joe.
Joe couldn't get the ball todrop in the basket.
He couldn't, so Eva steps up.
Eva was like go all the way,I'm on the boys' hockey team.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It was like three swooshes in a row.
Yes, I was like wow, she's aman, she should be on the NBA.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I know WNBA better call her.
She likes to pay the boys tape.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
NBA, better call her.
And then here comes Mitch.
Yeah, he's quicker, wow.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, he like sucked four in a row Boom boom, boom
boom.
It was crazy.
Let's get it.
One, two, three, four, five.
Siva wins, they get thatmassive fishing hit.
Yes, so now they're just tryingto see who's left.
Today was a win for Mitch.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
It was a win for Mitch and he, you know what I
think that did.
So much for his self-confidence.
Yeah, on this, it was like therising of Mitch, rising Dark
Mitch rising.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yes.
So next Lukey gets it becausehe was like fine, I got it.
Yep, next Lukey gets it becausehe was like fine, I got it.
And honestly, they could havetaken all day, because Cedric
and Kevin are still, I still.
It just felt like Cedric waspurposefully Cedric.
The non-entertainer waspurposefully trying to sabotage
him at the moment.
It was a disaster.
He just loved falling in thatwater and I said that I would

(40:01):
think a surgeon would have asuper steady way then, Right,
they should always walk in front, walk face first, because
there's always someone waitingto stab you just around the
corner.
So as soon as they get back tothe island, cedric's like he's
falling on the sword.
He's nailing himself to thecross.
I don't get it.
I didn't, I suck, I should gohome.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I don't get it, I didn't, I suck, I should go home
.
He just saw what happened toStephanie when she did that last
week.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
But it didn't help him.
But the thing is, though, evenif he didn't say it, everyone
knows he fucked up, he andCameron fucked up.
But the thing is, people startcrying.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, they did All of them.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
They were like, oh, we're so touched.
We're just so.
They weren't touched like thatwhen Stephanie threw her name
out there and when I saw themcrying, I'm like he's not going
to go home.
That's bullshit he deserved togo home.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
The only reason he didn't go home was because Cy,
the camp leader, was after Mary.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah and Cy and Cedric are friends.
Yes, so she was, and they allfell for that.
I'm like this is bullshit.
If anybody but Cedric was there, mary would have been safe.
Yeah, it was just.
They all like Cedric, yep, buthe's clearly not a competent
competitor.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
He's not going to help them and at some point
these three tribes are going tojoin into one tribe.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Oh my God, and he's.
His time is limited anyway.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well now Kevin, he thinks that he's the brains
behind the whole operation.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Kevin's like this is this is my time.
So Kevin's like this is thetime to make my move.
Yeah, there's no shame in hisgame.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
And he thinks that Say is the target.
And he thinks that Say is thetarget.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
And the thing is he knows she's not all right.
She should, in theory, be thetarget.
She could take this whole thingIf you don't get rid of her now
, when she's weak.
She knows she's got the idol.
She knows she has the idol.
Yeah, but he knew she has theidol.
He was like let's make her useit, but Cedric isn't having it.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
No, cedric isn't having it.
No, cedric is lucky, he's stillfreaking there.
He has that allegiance to sayit's weird, I don't get it.
Yeah, kevin, he said that shereminded him of one of his
daughters.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, and it's like Joe and Eva.
It's that kind of relationship.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
And he tells her you got to go play the idol tonight.
You have to play the idoltonight.
You have to play the idoltonight.
But that was also.
I mean, even though maybe hedoes have this alliance with her
, she needs to play the idol sothat it goes back into play.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Absolutely.
She's got to play it sometimesand then, like, I think maybe
Kevin should have told the menindividually, but he told them
all together that he wantedSaigon.
This also would enable him tokeep Mary who as a loyal ally.
She's not that much of acompetition, which is smart to
me.
But Cedric was like no, cestin,mary should go home.

(42:46):
But he's the one who fucked up.
Mary did a great job.
How could he even think thatanyone but him should be going
home?
That's wild.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
So predictably, this led to emotions being concealed
and Cy proposes to the guyslet's get Kevin out, and they
were like, well, that's not abad idea.
I guess you know he's trying toget her out, so obviously turn
around is fair play, but it wascrazy that Cedric and Justin
were just so easily on board.

(43:18):
First they're like okay, thenthey're like no let's get him
out, okay, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Whoever came up to them and had a plan, they were
going to go with it.
It's no, no loyalty.
I thought Justin and Kevin were, because they had the boys team
.
Yeah, I thought they were tied,but apparently Pizza Guy has no
loyalty to anybody and Say,told them you know, he's a
strong player, get him out now.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
And they were like, yeah, you know, maybe that's
true, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Okay, maybe we should get Cy out.
Okay, maybe we should.
Maybe we should get Kevin out.
Oh, okay, maybe we should.
Well, it's time for tribalcouncil.
Yes, and it's voting time.
Yes, and it's voting time.
Dude, this was so awkward.
This was so awkward, but it wasdelicious.
It was so delicious.
Sai's like it's painfullyobvious who she's voting for.
She's like I'm not going to mixwords.

(44:05):
Mary, you out, biatch, and thenMary and her.
You know they kind of hadchanged words.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
And then Kevin was like, oh, thanks, because it was
funny, because Sai goes, yeah,there's the alliance of the four
of us.
And then Jeff Probst is likethere's only five people here,
so Mary.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
And then Kevin's like you told her that we have a and
she was like well, why would I?
She knows she's not in ouralliance, she knows you know.
So I made a point of saying youhave to be able to trust people
.
Trust is very important and I'mlike, oh my God.
And Kevin was just going behindher back.
It was like watching Games ofThrones.
The red wedding, when it wasjust like a blood bath and there

(44:48):
was all these double entendresand everyone knew it was wild.
It was really.
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I really liked it.
And Jeff really does know howto stir the pot he does.
He knows what story he wants.
He does, and that's the last 15minutes of his job, dude, he's
going to go cut the film for theproduction as soon as he's done
with Tribal Council Dude, youknow he's not in some dark room
cutting.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You know he has I don't know that's seen in the
credits.
He's not doing anything butgoing home and snorting some
Sudafed like us.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
So there's a vote Well before there was a vote.
Psy discloses her big secret.
That's not a secret.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Her idol.
Yeah.
She's like I'm playing my idolbitches.
That's right she did.
I forgot Good for you, yeah.
So now Kevin's like, damn, sheplayed her idol.
But he kind of said that atleast it's a force to play her
idol, yeah.
And then they vote.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
The first one is Psy.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
The first one is Psy.
That doesn't count.
So it doesn't count, but youthink.
You think oh, maybe wait aminute, maybe Kevin's going to
win, maybe they are going tovote her out.
But they don't show anybodyelse's, and that's usually a bad
sign when they only show youthe first vote.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And then the next one was Kevin, and Kevin's face was
shocked.
He's like what.
Somebody voted for me, me, what?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Who voted for me, let alone me Me.
He seemed completely blindsided, and then, as the votes were
tallied, kevin.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, kevin, and just like that, he was gutted, he
was completely blindsided, hewas stunned, I was stunned.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I was stunned as well .
Were you stunned?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I kind of thought those guys were going to turn on
him.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I think, deep down inside, I want Saigon so badly.
I wanted to believe this washer, she was getting her
comeuppance and the poor guythought he was making his huge
move and he even announcedhimself as a major force in the
game, only to be backstabbedseconds later.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
You know, this is a funny thing, though, because it
seems like Mary's the weak linkof this tribe.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Two weeks in a row, she's slid by honestly, during
during the challenge, I thoughtshe did a great job.
I don't you know no complaints.
And the way she jumped on thatboat like mary lou redden, that
was amazing.
Um, after the votes are in, systarts in on.
In on Mary again.
Yeah, like immediately startsbullying her and I'm like what?

(47:19):
She is a bully too.
She really is.
She's a bully.
She's a bully.
She's like I want her gone,like immediately.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
The thing is is I do think that the guys recognized
that Psy kind of has a littletoo much power.
Yeah, she's letting it go toher head and her idol's gone now
, yeah, and maybe next timearound.
The thing is the Siva tribe.
They've been the winners thiswhole time, so, yeah, they never

(47:47):
really had to fight.
You know that the top alwaysfalls.
Yeah, it does.
It's going to come.
It's got to come here prettysoon.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
What I found too like before they were about to vote,
no one even brought up Cedric.
His name didn't even come up asa possible person to go.
It was just Mary and Cy SameMary and Cy.
I thought that was ridiculous.
If I was Mary, I would have atleast brought him up.
It just goes to show you thatit's not always about the
challenges.
Not really Right, it is aboutwho you like.

(48:17):
It's a popularity contest.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Justin's name never comes up.
No, mr Pizza man, he's ridingunder that.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, he's just staying low and keeping his head
low.
Also, the alliance reallydidn't mean much, did it?
No, right that?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
was pointless too, because what alliance is there
now?
I mean, maybe Cedric and Justinmight still feel like they have
an alliance with each other,but I mean they can't really
feel like they have an alliancewith Say.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, they can't.
I think they're probably goingto have to use her as long as
they could and get rid of her.
I mean, kevin was right, shehas to go.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, I don't know.
I just see one of the othertribes losing next week.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Really, who do you think?
Who do you think?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I just think that when you're on the top too long,
you have to fall.
Maybe.
Maybe they'll have one moreweek in them, siva, before they
fall, but I mean, volva's almostgone.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
You don't want to get rid of the Volva.
The Volva's closing up, it's sosmall.
Volva's just too small rightnow.
It's so small.
Vova is just too small rightnow.
Are they going to send anotherplayer inside of Vova?
I don't know, for right nowit's so compact and tiny I don't
know how they could possiblycompete.
But yeah, did you see thepreviews for next week?

(49:32):
Kind of did I mean, look, I wasso blown away.
It's going to be good next week.
It was good this week.
This is only week two and Ialready feel like it's pretty
amazing.
So what are you?
You still, last week you had totake it all.
What did you?
You had?
I still am.
Joe is my all in, really, yeah,um, I think I said it's a

(49:54):
people game.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
You said yeah, camila , I think I'm sticking with her,
I'm sticking with her.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
She's smart man.
She's smart.
She's staying under the radar.
Yep, she sat out this challenge.
No one, no eyes were not all onher.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I think when it gets to the Loggie tribe it'll be
between Star and Thomas as thefirst ones out, Because a lot of
people have seen Thomas' evilside.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, and I think Thomas and Bianca are really
close.
Yeah, and the California girls.
That's also an alliance, right?
Yeah?
Which is Joe, shaheen andThomas Is basically yeah, and
Star, you know they don't likeher, they don't like her.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
She's on the outside too, and Eva keeps winning
challenges for them, so they'renot going to get rid of her.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
She is, but she also could possibly rub people the
wrong way.
Yeah, at some point she's goingto have to tell everyone.
Yeah, because that was kind ofout of pocket it's going to be a
big tribal council announcement.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yes, attention everyone, are you a Survivor
super fan?
Yet Me?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I.
That answers that.
Um, I don't.
I'm not a Survivor super fanyet, but but this week did it
kind of.
I was kind of blown away alittle bit and I'm like you
watch some other reality showsand nothing ever happens, and I

(51:16):
feel like this is a reality showwhere everything kind of
happens.
So it was kind of I like that.
I like reality shows wherestuff actually happens.
Are you a super?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
fan.
You know, what I'm mostly a fanof is our unpaid producer
intern, mary DeSalo.
Oh, yes, yes, I think that Ilearned more about Survivor this
week from Mary.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Than you could have ever learned from Jeff Pobis.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yes, he doesn't know what's going on yes, Mary sent
us a very informative detailedlist of facts, yes, and I feel
like she gave a pretty goodsummary.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I get it now.
I get it all.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I love it.
A couple of things that I wassuper excited to learn was that
only the first and last episodesare two hours and that all
others are an hour and a half.
Oh, goodness for that.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Was this one an hour and a half?
I felt like an hour.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I kind of think it was an hour and a half, oh, okay
, and also she's defending JeffProbst.
What, yeah, defending JeffProbst.
He is the hardest worker.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
He's 15 minutes once a week.
He is in fact the hardest.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
He actually produces the show.
He's involved in every aspectof the show.
He's involved with casting andplanning, shooting, design,
editing.
You know what Sounds like acontrol freak to me.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I am not impressed by that.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Everyone probably rolls their eyes when he walks
in, and I was also devastated tolearn that they have strict
rules that everyone must follow,including that they are not
permitted to share their prizemoney with any other player.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Oh, that was your whole thing?
Yeah, was that.
You thought that Joe was goingto share with Eva, absolutely,
and that angered me.
So I'm I feel better knowingthat that is not.
But you know what?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
That really makes a lot of sense.
Otherwise there would be analliance to the very end and
split it.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah Right, that's true.
We could split it three ways.
We could split it two ways.
Yeah right, yeah, that makessense.
Well, thank you for that.
So you just kind of pee-peedall on poor Christine's
harmonious harmonious Horniest.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
How do you know I'm horniest?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Horniest, very, oh, it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Good job, mary.
And also, when the idol is usedat tribal council, they
immediately hide another idol.
Oh, so they're unlimited, but Iguess only yeah.
So they would have everyincentive for her to use it so
that it would come back intoplay again.
I see, I see, okay, yeah, I'llsay the biggest twist shocker,
that Mary kind of had thistheory on was she says they're

(53:58):
supposed to lie to each other.
If you're a lawyer, you don'twant people to know you're a
lawyer, because then they thinkyou have a lot of money.
Yeah, maybe you don't deserveit.
And she said, like I think thatDr Cedric probably shouldn't
have told them that he's adoctor.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
That's probably a disadvantage for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she said that she saidEva could be lying about having
I love that theory.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I love it.
It's like Kaiser Sose.
Well, she's not even autistic,she's just saying that yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
So which which is funny, because I said that I
felt like that was a prettymanipulative play.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
You did say that and maybe I like sensed something
even deeper, but I wonder, ifshe was going to do that,
wouldn't it be more agentatiousIs that a word Agentatious to
tell everyone?
Why keep it a secret?
If you're going to be playingthat card, wouldn't you be like
oh sorry sir.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
But she really did reel in Joe, she did.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
She found her mark.
She's a really good mark and I,I hope look, I'm hoping that is
the case, because that would beamazing tv if that was the case
.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I think I was so excited when the show was over
that I wasn't staying tuned forthe credits.
So last week I said I wouldhave wanted to know who voted
for everybody, and so if youactually watch to the very end,
they show who voted what wouldwe show who voted?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
What would we do without Mary?
What would we do without Mary?
I was like guys, come on, getit together.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
So this week I did.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I did too, I did too, and I was like oh Okay, another
funny thing.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Courtesy of Miss Mary DeSimone.
The tribe names are words inthe Fiji language.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Oh yes, I language.
Oh yes, I think Jeff Hobus saidthat, but I was just like.
It's still a vulva.
It will always be a vulva.
A vulva's a vulva.
I'm sure there's other words inthe Fiji language other than
vulva that they could have used.
They clearly want us to makefun of them.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
And I know we talk about Mary DeSimone a lot
because she does a lot ofbackground research for us.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
She's our unofficial producer.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
We do have.
We have had many unofficialproducers over the years.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
We have.
I mean this.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
This podcast takes a village guys, and a huge part of
why we even continue doing thisis because of the listener
encouragement.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, the listener encouragement and the listeners
doing the bulk of our work.
For us is pretty much it,because we famously do no
research.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
We do absolutely no research, but we did get a
message from Erica.
Erica Hi, erica, and you knowwhat she's asking about.
Farmer Wants a Wife.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Erica said the naughty parts out loud.
She said Farmer Wants a Wife.
Those are the no-no words.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I said to Michelle when we first talked about doing
a show again for the season,let's do Farmer Wants a Wife.
And Michelle said but that'sthe show that we have the fewest
listeners on.
Why would we do that?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
No one listens to it.
No one listens to it.
I'm convinced no one actuallywatches the show.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
That's the problem.
No one watches the show.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
But it is on a major network.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
It's on Fox and it's our bread and butter.
It's our first show.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
It's our first show they keep bringing it back, so
somebody must be watching it andit's very successful all around
the world, just not here.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
And I think that what really burned us out was one
season we did two shows at oncebachelor.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I think it coincided like overlapped with, was it the
golden bachelor?
The regular bachelor and farmer, once a wife and it was too
much and so despite all of ouranything any of the our
conscience, our internal,whatever that voice is inside of
you that tells you do not go inthat creepy looking house we're
we're actually consideringdoing the Farmer Once in a Life.

(57:39):
Oh, and Erica did say somethingtoo that was that also reeled me
in.
She said that one of thecontestants has an album coming
out the same day that the showpremieres.
Yeah, and I just think that isso ratchet and I love it.
I love that someone did that.
They're not even hiding itanymore.
Then usually they're like youknow, we're here to find love.
We're not here for the Instafollowers, we're not.

(57:59):
This person is like I'm herefor the Spotify downloads.
Just download my album.
I love that.
Whoever that person is, I loveher.
So we're.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I know they released the contestants.
I got to go look at them andmake my murder board.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I looked at them and they're lovely again, just the
most beautiful women.
The men have some potential ofbeing just somebody we can make
fun of.
Yeah, but they're all like, um,they're all in the twenties
this time.
Oh, okay, there's nodevastatingly older, wiser perv.
They're all pretty much intheir twenties and some of them

(58:32):
I actually think might be reallyready to settle down.
One of them is already divorced, but he's like 28.
Okay, he's already been marriedand has a kid, and you do.
I'm like wow.
So, yeah, I think maybe theseguys might be legitimate, all
right.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
So if we're going to, if we're going to do it, we
need you guys to listen.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, or or we're out , erica, is it Erica, Erica.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, it's Erica.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Erica, if we find out that you're not downloading it,
we are so done, we're out ofhere.
You better listen every week,erica, but thank you so much for
reaching out to us.
We love, we love the feedback,so thank you, guys.
Okay, so thank you for joiningus.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
That was actually okay.
I'm becoming more of a Survivorfan.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I'm becoming more of a Survivor fan too.
I like it when things happen,and this was amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I do like the romance brewing between Camilla and
Kyle.
It's a true love story.
I do not think it's a romancebetween Eva and Joe, but I think
that it is a bond.
I think there is no true bondon the Vulva tribe.
No.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
That's going to dry up real quick.
I don't want.
I'm honestly now rooting formary because she's two weeks in
a row they've had their eye onher.
Say he's a bully.
Justin and and cedric thenon-entertainer?
I mean, well, justin has noloyalties to anybody, right?
At least cedric has one to sayit's misplaced.
But some some room for Mary onthat team.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You missed my double imponder of drying up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
You said moments drying up.
I'm sorry.
How could I miss a shiny pun?
That's brilliant, christine.
Cheers to that, cheers to that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I love a good giant pun.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for listening to us.
Yes, subscribe anywhere whereyou get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah, you for listening to us.
Yes, craziness, subscribeanywhere where you get your
podcasts.
Yeah, because that's you knowyou're listening to us on
something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yes, right, so just subscribe.
And we really are trying to getthem out on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
We are yeah, we are, and we're still debating, erica,
we're still debating, we'remaster debating for more time.
But thank for Roar's Wife.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for listening to us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
We'll see you next week.
Bye, bye, I'm not going to workharder, I'm going to work
harder, I'm going to make it.
I want to survive.
I want to survive, I want tosurvive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I'm wishing you the best.
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