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Brad (00:05):
I'm, big on that.
I'm big on Craig right nowbecause I'm really involved in
church.
Michael (00:08):
You should be, that's
great.
Brad (00:09):
His leadership podcast is
really good.
He had the elevate pastor onthere who's a songwriter.
And he wrote all that elevationstuff.
The music video?
Yes.
Michael knows everything.
That's why he's the mastermind.
Michael (00:23):
No,
Brad (00:25):
No, like you can't say,
there's hardly anything that he
just like hasn't heard about.
I didn't know anything
Michael (00:28):
about that bridge.
The ship hit.
Brad (00:32):
True.
Michael (00:32):
I looked it up and I
was like, this is really
interesting.
Brad (00:35):
I was just realizing some
of like our strengths and
weaknesses, not weaknesses somuch, maybe my own weaknesses,
but strengths.
I'm trying to turn this lightoff, our strengths and like what
our strengths are and what webring to the table as I was like
going through my own littlestruggles and I just, that was
one of yours.
I recognize it's like,
Michael (00:55):
Oh, I was
Brad (00:55):
like, why do they call him
the mastermind?
Michael (00:57):
Oh, do you want to know
that?
Yeah.
There's a book, have you heardof think and grow rich?
Have you read that?
Oh yeah, Okay.
So that's where the concept ofthe mastermind comes from,
Napoleon Hill.
He basically he asserts thatanytime you have more than two
people, so at least three peoplegenerally, the amount of
intelligence and the amount ofinsights that you gain in that
(01:19):
conversation, it's not additive.
So it's not like thecombination.
Yeah.
It's exponential.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
The mastermind.
Brad (01:27):
Oh, cool.
I didn't know that was where yougot it from.
That was like the mastermind keyto success.
Napoleon Hills.
Did you ever watch the YouTubevideo of him?
That's like an hour, three hoursor however long it is.
Michael (01:36):
Yes.
Brad (01:37):
In his like old fifties
video, it's so good.
Preston (01:46):
Welcome to episode 61
of the reclaiming man podcast,
Brad the, Lieutenant Dawson isair drumming and air puffing
back there like a goddamnmaniac.
You got me pressing the SouthernCanuck Radomski and Michael,
just Michael tonight.
I guess no mastermind on hislabel, but we'll still call him
the mastermind Beckwith.
And tonight Brad is going tolead us off.
(02:09):
With, I don't totally know whathe was pulling us that he's got
some things he has on his mindthat he would like to talk about
and thought would be a goodthing to chat about.
So we figured we'll let himstart it off and then we can
just respond, listen, answer,tell him he doesn't know what
he's talking about.
I don't know, mostly rightthere.
Brad (02:28):
Thank you, man.
Dude, As I've said before, Iattend Life Church pastors
Craig, Rochelle, and I wannacredit him to some of this
because he's got a podcast aswell, and as a podcaster.
Now I can say that.
Now I am a podcaster.
We talked about on our last poloepisode that we say we aren't we
(02:52):
have these self-imposedlimitations.
And like I am a podcaster everyI took some of my own advice and
it's like every podcaster needsa podcast, right?
Or every leader needs a leader.
And we got to see ourselves asleaders too.
So there's always people we canlead.
And I was listening to one ofactually, I want to say it was
(03:14):
the sermon.
On Sunday, and what's great is Imixed sound at the church.
So I get to hear the messagefour times.
So I'm a pretty dense dude andhave a pretty thick skull.
So it's actually really goodbecause the first I do the
rehearsal and the first one, I'mreally worried about sound.
And then some of his messagegets through.
As I sit there, cause once hismessage starts, I really just
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sit there.
I don't really have much work todo.
I'm just set his levels and justwait for the.
The call to Christ, but secondmessage, I hear it again.
And then third.
And like by the fourth one, it'sless drilled into my head.
And it's honestly, this kind ofcool experience.
If I could stay awake, if I'mhonest, he's usually, I played a
gig the night before and had tobe there at six 30 in the
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morning.
What happened was this weekend,his message was, about freedom
and it's going to tie into,we're talking about reclaiming
body today was really ourschedule.
We're not we don't have stick tothat, but it does lead to that.
I realized as I'm looking at mynotes and, but it starts with
this and I thought this was areally.
(04:18):
Really good fact, right?
Research shows that Americansworry.
They worry more than any otherculture.
And I thought that was reallyinteresting.
And,
Preston (04:38):
I can pretty much agree
with that statement, that
sentiment 40 percent
Brad (04:43):
of what we worry about
never happens.
30 percent of it.
We can't change because it's inthe past.
And then 20 percent of it.
is what people think of us,which isn't accurate.
And 10 percent of it is we worryabout is our health.
(05:09):
So it does tie into health, butwhere it really does tie into
body is that 90 percent of ourdisease has been tied back to
stress, which is linked toworry.
And I found this reallyinteresting.
Now I feel like I already knewthis, or I presumed this to be
(05:29):
true.
So I really wanted to kick itoff with that.
And he goes into, a Bible verse,which if I'm going to get
biblical here, Matthew 6, 25, Iwas trying to have this kind of
(05:51):
ready, but I thought it wasreally good.
I was going to pull it up.
I don't know if anyone has thatability right now.
It's Matthew, do you have like acomputer in front of you?
Matthew 625.
(06:13):
Yes.
So I just wanted to allude tothis because, I felt like it
just really hit home.
Michael (06:22):
do not worry about your
life, what you will eat or
drink, about your body, what youwill wear.
Isn't life more than food in thebody, more than clothing?
Brad (06:31):
We've all heard this
verse, right?
Thank you for bringing that up.
He tells us in the Bible to notworry, right?
We've got all these things thatwe worry about and it's like,
okay what do we do with it?
And it's like it comes back tofaith and that we look to our
(06:51):
higher power, you know We lookto our father.
We look to our faith whoconquers fears and then he says
we look into our we look intoour future and we talk about
seeking that power, first.
So we think about to conquerworry, we think about turning
that over and then all thoseother things will be added.
(07:15):
And I really didn't have somebig plan for tonight, but this
just really hit me and I wantedto turn it over to you guys
really.
And I wanted to just see whatyou thought about how, these
worries and these fears Turninto stress and that stress.
ultimately kills us.
(07:37):
It has the power.
It has the power to kill us.
And I, just want to get yourguys's thoughts on it.
I'm really just going to kick itoff with that.
I don't have a whole thingplanned out.
But I'll just add that I thinkworry never fixes anything.
I think it just steals.
(07:59):
The joy of the moment and how Ifelt like I really needed to
learn more about how to trust inwhatever power is outside of me,
whatever you believe in.
I'm not here to say I choose tobe, my Lord and Savior, Jesus
Christ, I'm growing as aChristian man and that's super
new to me and but whatever yourpower is more power to you.
(08:29):
And the last thing that I haveon it is what do we do?
How do we strengthen, how do westrengthen that relationship?
How do we do that?
How do we learn to turn thatover when those problems seem so
real to us?
So incapacitating.
And I just couldn't help butthink of the serenity prayer and
how we have to know.
(08:50):
The difference between what wecan and can't change and how we
have to take action and we can'ttake action.
Like we talk about, if we don'tknow what action to take, and I
think that's where everybodygets stumped is they don't know
what action to take and tocapitalize on or to capitalize
to follow up on our podcast.
Previous episode about takingthat action.
(09:15):
And we've really linked allthese together.
But I just wanted to like, putthat out there for you guys.
I thought that was really,interesting stuff.
And that's pretty much.
Pretty much my lead in, so
Preston (09:33):
I, almost feel like his
podcast is you're meant to tell
me that this week in a weirdway, because I've been, I don't
know, like for like, not likeevery day, but like, I've had
this struggle.
I think I remember talking toyou about it, like about a year
ago, Brad, like just having thisanxiety stuff that was going on
(09:53):
for, I'd had a panic attack.
Like when I was out with thekids and stuff, no, I've had
like.
To them like where they've beenpretty have you ever had one of
those like if you're listeningand you've never had it was
weird.
Like the first time I had onelike it's this weird sensation
(10:13):
where you almost feel likeyou're about to die.
Brad (10:16):
I had one.
I had one real quick.
I had one in Vegas, but I
Preston (10:19):
attribute it
Brad (10:19):
to you.
Vaping, but I, don't think itwas man.
Like, I don't know what it was.
I don't know if it was an asthmaattack, but I like woke up in
the middle of the night and Icouldn't breathe and I had like
a weird dream and I was, Iremember being stressed out and
so I quit vaping for a week andnow I'm vaping again, which is,
It's the human conditionobviously at play here, but I
(10:42):
had a buddy that I talked to andwas like, Hey, I went to Vegas
too, and it was super dry andthe air conditioning.
And he's like, I had the samething happen.
And so I've told myself,whatever, maybe it's a lie.
I struggle with this nicotineaddiction.
I'm back vaping again, but maybeI had an anxiety attack.
I don't know.
So I, I don't know if I've everhad one.
(11:02):
I always wondered, I feel likemaybe I have, and I just didn't
know.
Cause I sure have felt like Iwas going to die a few times,
but, sorry to interrupt.
I just,
Preston (11:12):
I think you would I
think, you would know if you'd
had one.
What I'm trying to get tothough, it's just like, I've
just, I don't know, like latelyI've just been in my head about
that a lot when I'm just workingor even like in the middle of
the night, like I'll wake up togo pee and then I'll think Oh
man, I'm probably going to havea heart attack because my
grandfather died of a heartattack.
Like my Nana died of a heartattack.
(11:33):
Like I'm just in that age rightnow where I'm like in my forties
and I've got this family andthen I start thinking about this
stuff and I'm like, I'mliterally thinking to myself I
didn't know this verse until youread it, but it's like, I would
like just have conversationswith God.
It's weird that this is turninginto sort of a God podcast
tonight, but where I just belike, Hey man, like.
(11:55):
I don't know why I have thisshit on my brain, but like, can
you just like, calm myself outand it's like, and then I would
come down with it and not thinkabout it, but it's just.
It's weird that you bring thatup tonight when it's like
something I've like literallybeen personally like, I don't
mean dealing with like, Oh, I'mfucking struggling with this
(12:15):
shit.
It's not that bad, but it's justannoying and a pain in the ass.
And it's just like, wow, whatthe hell is going on?
And you're reading this and Ijust feel like I'm like, Oh man,
Brad's talking to me tonight.
It spoke to me because
Brad (12:29):
I relate.
I felt like that.
On Sunday, I'm like, if we're,worried, it's misdirected trust.
It's like, We're, not trustingin the plan or God or whatever
(12:49):
you want to call it and I just,I'm still sitting with that and
that's why I wanted to bring itup because I struggle with
relying on God.
And so I have a question in herewhere it says, how do we
strengthen our faith?
And I think, Yeah.
I just posed that question toyou guys and I'm new, like new
(13:10):
to faith and we had a smallgroup tonight and it was about
like, we'd be doing thismarriage thing.
And it's like, everybody in thegroup seems so perfect.
And I'm like, they love me causeI'm so vulnerable.
And I'm like, I've just had alot of practice in AA, so I've
been encouraging them but I feelsometimes inferior, but just
(13:31):
learning how to do this stuff.
And, from a more religious sidemore biblical side, I guess I
should say, because man, there'ssome good stuff in there.
And he talks about God, Ithought it interesting is as
trivial as it sounds, like hefeeds the birds, like they don't
worry, they don't worry abouthow they're gonna get their
(13:51):
food.
Like it's always provided forthem.
And, I just thought the wholefreedom concept, I thought, and
I think we talked about this,maybe, when you In a free
country like America, you have,the reason you're so have more
stressed than other countries isbecause you have more freedoms.
(14:14):
You have more choices.
And I feel like all of ourpodcasts are tied together,
which is great, man.
Yeah, which is great.
And it's like, of course we'rethe most stressed out culture
because we have the mostfreedom.
Michael (14:32):
Yeah.
That channels.
Preston (14:34):
Yeah.
There's something to that, Whenyou have to just get up and put
your water jug on your head togo get water for the day and
that's all you're going to doand like, if you don't, you die,
it's, you just, you do that andyou don't even think about bills
or anything because there's nobills out there.
There's no job to go to.
(14:55):
There's just you surviving in adifferent kind of boat.
Life in a different kind of aworld and you know I don't know
if you could say one is betterthan the other I'm sure you
could say that there thatlifestyle is way less stressful,
they don't have Nintendo switchYeah, I don't know like there's
(15:23):
an element of like would you beable to gosh How would I word
this like could you do that forsix months?
Without knowing, I don't know,like, it's just it's, a very
interesting dichotomy you bringup there, Brad.
Yeah,
Michael (15:43):
I think the you had the
question of like, how do you
strengthen your faith?
And the answer to that one, Ithink it's a little bit hard
because it basically is you haveto go through hard things and
realize that, you're goingthrough them.
And then you look back what youhave already gone through.
(16:05):
Gone through to get to where youare today and all of those
things that could have been theend of you, that could have led
you down a different path, but,you're where you are, you
believe what you believe, andmore importantly, where you're
going, the direction that you'regoing now is something that to
(16:29):
me, anyways, it increases myfaith, even when like you're
talking about vaping, stillhaving addictions, like
everybody, no matter wherethey're at in their faith,
Journey, so to speak, whatever.
I hesitated to use those words,everybody has different
addictions that they deal with.
And some of those are physicaldrug addictions.
(16:51):
Other, the others are likeemotional addictions and stress
addictions.
Like stress is at some point inan addiction, our body becomes
so accustomed to stress that itanticipates it.
It has memorized it, itanticipates it because it says,
Hey, in the past I've With thisstress and I know that I'm, even
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though I'm uncomfortable in thatstress, like I'm more used to
it, it's more familiar than notbeing stressed.
And so there's a, that's one ofthe things that, right, but just
Preston (17:26):
becomes your baseline.
No, that's exactly when younormalize stress
Michael (17:30):
in your life, then it
does start to build up and
compound against you.
To your point, Brad, with yourbody, and it does start to have
really negative impacts.
Think about the different typesof stress that come from, for
instance, if you binge eatsomething, you are trying to
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satisfy like this, immediateneed of some sort of stress
condition that you're trying toeat your way out of almost,
right?
But then in doing so, if you putyourself in a position where if
that persists, eventually leadsto potentially depending on what
you eat, maybe it's diabetes,maybe it's obesity, maybe it's
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some sort of heart disease.
Or other type of serious type ofrisk, yeah it's all linked and
it's, yeah, it is interestingand not interesting.
Sorry, that's the wrong word.
It occurs to me that it's like,this is nothing new, right?
You point to a Bible verse thatsays, Hey, you shouldn't worry.
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And it's very easy to.
To read those words and scoff atthem and say like, yeah, but
there's so many things that wehave to worry about because we
have to do X, Y, Z.
And I think the way to reframeit is instead of worrying about
something, choose what am Ifocusing on today?
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Instead of like what am Iworried about, I want to focus
on perhaps dealing with aproblem that normally I could
worry about, but I'm going tofocus on finding a solution or a
path forward or a resolution oreven if it's I have to take a
step backwards.
And, regain my footing, so tospeak.
(19:23):
I think that's the important wayto reframe what worry has become
in our culture.
And it's the same way when wetalk about like being busy.
And instead of being busy, Iheard someone tell me like, Oh,
my life is full, but it's notbusy.
Like, yeah, you're doing a lotof things, but it's not.
Just arbitrarily busy, likeyou're churning in place and not
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getting anything done.
So there's just different waysto reframe the worries.
And I think there's a lot ofthem that are to your point,
things that.
The majority of them by the mathare not things that we need to
worry about.
Brad (19:59):
Yeah.
He said another thing.
He was like, when I said, Iparaphrased earlier about,
stress kills people.
It can kill as the power tokill.
But he said something aboutlike, no one has ever died from.
Work or taking action it ortaking action
Michael (20:20):
Yeah.
But where does stress come from?
Like at the end of the day?
Yeah.
What is the underlying emotionfrom stress?
It's probably fear.
Fear, sure.
Right.
And like we were talking aboutthat a little bit before this
show, so that's an interestingkind of partial segue.
But I think the two are veryclosely related.
It's most of the time we havesome sort of, sometimes it's an
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unidentifiable fear.
Like that's the case of myfather-in-Law.
Who has dementia, like he can'teven sometimes pinpoint exactly
what it is that's stressing himout and worry, but he's really
worried a lot of times.
It's just at night when it getsdark and
riverside_michael__ may 6 (20:55):
yeah,
Michael (20:57):
But there's just.
I think there's fear behind alot of those, those worries and
that's another place to go withit, I suppose.
But it's really, it sounds likea good podcast that I should
take a listen to.
Brad (21:13):
Yeah, it's yeah, it really
is.
There was another, I was goingto say this, like, how do you
build your fear?
I'm trying to see if I can findthe Bible verse that it alluded
to.
Oh, it was in Psalms, and itwas, and it said, The Lord is
close to all who call on Him,yes, but to all who call on Him
(21:37):
in truth.
And it was the truth.
Okay, so what, He's not close toyou unless you get honest.
Michael (21:46):
That's exactly, man,
that's so crazy.
So you guys, yeah this is, sogood.
And definitely recommend livingfearlessly this book by Jamie
Winship, because he says thatone of the absolute key
components to dealing with worryand fear is confessing and
confessing.
He says it doesn't meanapologizing to God or somebody
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else.
It means Telling them the truth.
You're telling the truth.
And so when you do have a worryor a fear you have to tell the
truth about it and you have tosay, okay, this thing is really
bugging me.
And then you have to ask, butwhat is.
The truth about it and put it inone of those categories that you
just talked about, Brad, is thissomething that I don't have
(22:30):
control of?
Okay.
It no longer should have a holdon me.
I have spoken truth into thisand now I can no longer be
afraid of it.
And so it's partially rational,but at the same time, like you
said, you have to turn some ofthat stuff over as far as like,
what is the actual truth aboutwho I am?
(22:51):
And if, this stuff is actuallysomething that should stress me
out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That book is all about that.
So I think it's interesting thatyou say that, the true element
of it.
Brad (23:05):
I think there's like 15
books now that I probably have
to read that you've recommended.
Oh, just,
Michael (23:12):
they'll just keep on
coming, man.
So I listened to that podcastaccidentally coming out of the
sauna, like I was meditatingdoing this stuff and I was like,
Oh, this is good.
I'm like, I'm just going tochill here.
And this podcast comes out, Iwas like, Oh, this is
interesting.
Like the intro of it.
And then I was like, by the endof it, I was like, I'm buying
this book.
And then the next morning, I'mlike that 50 percent of the way
(23:34):
through it just like burningthrough this book.
But, check that one out too.
It's, it was a fast read to behonest with you.
Brad (23:45):
Yeah.
I'm not going to say I'm not areader.
Good.
Good.
Cause that could be a lie.
Maybe you just don't read asmuch yet.
Yeah.
I got all the excuses about timeand all that stuff.
But that's one on my list.
It's on one of my it's on mylist.
It's on my list to, to be a moreof a reader and, do that.
Michael (24:12):
So yeah.
Yeah.
Try 10 pages a day for a weekand see.
Like how long it actually takesyou to do 10 pages of anything.
The Bible is pretty dense if youdo 10 pages, but if you read any
other book, The
Preston (24:26):
Bible's my buddy was
going to do 75 hard a couple of
weeks ago.
He's like, I think I'm going tostart with the Bible.
It's like, you're not a reader.
I was like, don't start with 10pages.
You got to have
Brad (24:34):
a plan with the Bible.
Now it's like you got to have aBible plan or it's pretty
Michael (24:41):
simple.
You just read it every day.
Yeah.
True.
No, that's, here's, that's theplan.
Yeah.
You do have to have a plan, butthe plan is actually very
simple.
You just read it every day.
Sure.
Sure.
It doesn't have to be more thana chapter, but if you read it
every day, like sometimes you'regoing to get sucked in and
you're going to read a few.
Yeah.
(25:01):
Sometimes you're going to belike, what is this lengthy list
of names that has no relevance?
And you're going to blur yourway through it.
But and you have to have
Brad (25:09):
That filter.
And over time you learn how toread the Bible.
It's going to, it's not going totell this story that has What
we're looking for entertainment,so to speak, so it's like, you
have to like, read it with thatfilter of understanding and for
sure.
And letting the words, Lettingthe Bible do what it does,
because I think there's a powerthere where when you read it,
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it's like, you don't always knowwhat's happening, but you're
reading like, really powerfulstuff.
And I feel like you open.
This door to for him to come inthrough the word and that's why
they talk about it.
And I almost sound like thislike preachy dude right now, and
it's crazy to even hear myselftalk because I'm like, still
full of sin, right?
(25:52):
But I'm learning that I don'thave to beat myself up.
Now I'm just like, you knowwhat?
No, it's all good.
I had these problems anyway, Ifound ways to grow and, build on
this stuff.
And now I'm like having a littlebit of fun where I'm like, cool.
Like I can keep learning andkeep growing and building.
And sometimes it's going to bepainful.
(26:13):
That's the next thing I wasgoing to say, why people don't
get honest or why they don'ttell the truth is because it
hurts, but on the other side ofthat pain, is the growth.
And it just like what you said,Michael, it was like, it.
Michael (26:29):
I
Brad (26:29):
can't remember what you
just
Michael (26:29):
said a minute ago, I
just drew a blank.
We were talking about buildingfaith and that's like when you
go through those types of Oh,experience,
Brad (26:35):
right, right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was just like, yougotta go through it, you gotta
experience it and I'm I'mgrateful that I've had these
experiences, but if I don'tlearn from them Then that's on
me.
Right.
And yeah, it's just good stuff,man.
Really good stuff.
riverside_michael__ may 6 (26:55):
Yeah.
Brad (26:59):
Yeah,
Preston (26:59):
that's all of us.
Brad (27:00):
So I encourage, yeah,
check it out.
It's, I'm just going to checkout Craig Rochelle's.
What's the name of his podcast?
I think it's just theleadership.
I think it's just CraigRochelle's leadership podcast.
I'll look it up real quick.
Yeah.
Craig Rochelle leadershippodcast.
Michael (27:23):
Maybe we should have
him on our show, dude.
Brad (27:25):
All right.
I don't think I can get to himquite yet, but I can get to, why
not?
Just ask.
I'll try.
I will.
I'm going to I thought aboutthat.
For sure.
So when I get to meet them, I'llbe sure to keep telling people
about reclaiming man.
So I've been telling everybodyabout it.
I've been sharing it.
(27:45):
with people.
I don't know if we've seen anynew followers or anything
lately, but I've been telling alot of people about it.
And if you're listening, thankyou guys for following and
giving us a listen, because alot of what I've picked up and a
lot of I've shared recently hascome from the time that I spend
at life church and beinginvolved.
So I love it, man.
(28:08):
I do.
It's hard.
I don't always want to go likeevery time I don't want to go.
And I'm always so glad that itdid.
It's like an AA meeting.
I'm like, I don't want to go.
And I feel so much better.
I feel so much better when Ileave, so
riverside_michael__ may 6 (28:25):
yeah,
that's good.
Preston (28:28):
It's like, Yeah it's
just doing something that you,
it's like getting in a coldplunge first thing in the
morning.
It's like, it doesn't soundgood, but like when you get out,
it feels phenomenal.
It's like going to church.
It's like, ah, I could sleep ina bit, but it's like, then you
go and you see all your friendsand your pastor gives a good
message and you leave and you'rejust like,
Brad (28:48):
yeah.
So I went my mom has thisregiment, right?
She's 65.
And for 65, she's, My mom's inpretty good shape.
She goes to the gym every day.
She goes to the YMCA and she'slike, I, she always talks about
sitting in the sauna.
She's like, you gotta, and soone day I was like, been, I've
been working on buildingprioritizing my family.
So making time for my son andthen making time for her.
(29:11):
So it's a little easier withher.
Cause she's around a lot.
My son and me have two totallydifferent schedules.
So it's hard.
We're actually going to buildLegos right after this.
I told him to, if he took a naptonight, Earlier, He could stay
up late and we'd build Legos sothat we could hang out.
But anyway, my mom goes, I go,what do you want to do?
Like, let's go do something.
She's like, come to the Y withme.
I want to do the sauna with you.
(29:32):
And I'm like, all right, cool.
And I sauna just not enough.
Cause I don't have access to itat my gym.
Michael (29:37):
Right on.
We can wrap up episode 61.
I suppose thanks for listening.