Ep. 33 with Andrea Anderson | Founder & Owner, Andrea Leigh Co. Coaching & Consulting - Reclaiming Your Hue

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good morning Andrea.
Hi, I'm so excited to be here.
I am so excited for you to behere too.
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm good, good.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, it's a beautiful cold day here in
Cleveland, but yeah, well, it'sa beautiful, cold day here in
the Twin Cities as well, andwe're thriving, though this is
one of the first days, by theway, like we've gone, you know,
almost 14 days into the month ofDecember without really a lot
of snow or just icky, ickyweather.

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Today is one of those days,though, like we're going to have
sleet, and it's it's just, youknow, winter is here.
Winter is officially here.
Well, I'm, like I said, sohappy and honored to have you
here and really excited for ourlisteners to get the opportunity
to hear about you, your storyof motherhood and

(00:56):
entrepreneurship and how faithhas really played a role in all
of that too.
So let's go ahead and getstarted.
I always like to ask my guestshow it is that we got connected,
and I would love for you toshare the story of how you and I
met.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I believe it was through a mutual friend.
It might've been through.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Luna, I think.
I think it was KimberlySanderson.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Or maybe it was Kimberly Okay, I think.
I think it was KimberlySanderson, or maybe it was
Kimberly Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's like there's so many connections and so many
amazing women that I have met,so yes, yeah, yeah, I think it
was Kimberly Sanderson, andremind me how, how the two of
you know one know one another.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, so I believe we connected somehow through
Facebook, and then we alsoconnected through LinkedIn, and
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I love it.
You're like I'm pretty sure Ithink it was yeah, you know, and
how am I connected to Kimberly?
She is just one of those peoplethat is I like to put it this
way and for the listeners justbear with me but like, once she
gets her claws in you in a verypositive, impactful way, she
just wants to support you anduplift you.

(02:17):
She's one of those people Likeshe's that top third of people
that you want to have in yourlife that just really uplift you
and support you and I love thatabout her.
I just love it.
And she's really like she hasconnected me to some really
phenomenal women Um, you beingone of them, and how powerful
that we're here now, connectedfrom Cleveland to the twin

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cities and back, and it's justso cool.
I love how God just works inthat very beautiful way.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, and I loved when we first talked how you're like
.
I love Cleveland Cause me tooyeah.
Yeah, yeah, like I do.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I love it.
It's just nobody really feltthat same way when I shared that
Testament.
They're like isn't it like thearmpit of the United States?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
And it gets a bad rap and it's almost like I feel
like Cleveland is a best keptsecret in this area.
Yeah, so if you all have the,if you've never been to
Cleveland, it's amazing Foodietown, so many great resources in
this area.
Yeah, I'm happy to champion.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know and I do just want to share this with the
listeners because I think it'skind of fun and fruitful than
playing off of what you'resaying so I had the opportunity.
I was working in propertymanagement and the company I was
working for was nationwide, andso they had this brand new
startup building there and itwas right on the river, on the
river bend, like where it meetsthe lake, and I they were like

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we want you to go and helpsupport this lease up, and so I
had the opportunity to go spendI think it was like two weeks
that I spent there, stayed atone of the really beautiful
hotels next door to it and Ijust got to explore.
I got to explore with one ofthe other sales manager that was

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there and I mean, I really justwent all around the downtown
Cleveland setting and got to goto the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame and that was years andyears and years ago, like I had
been in mortgage starting in2017.
So it would have been evenbefore then, and I can only
imagine that it has grown anddeveloped so much since then.

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So, yeah, absolutely Make yourway to Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, and you can ask me to be your tour guide.
I always love doing it.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
There you go.
Well, let's actually get intothe meat and potatoes of the
interview.
We could sit here and talkabout Cleveland for quite a
while, I'm sure, but I'm sureour listeners like yeah, yeah,
yeah, Move on, let's.
Let's get to the fruitful part.
What came first for you, Andrea?
Was it entrepreneurship or didmotherhood come first?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, technically, I would say motherhood, when we
think about entrepreneurship, isactually having a job.
But I've always beenentrepreneurial.
So I had my first sale when Iwas four years old and after my
first sale I immediately markedmy prices up by 400%, naturally.
Naturally, because you do that.

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So, a little bit behind thestory, I had created what I see
as custom artwork with cottonballs and crayons on this paper
and I went to my dad and I saiddad, you like this picture?
And he said, yes, I was like itis a penny.
So he paid me like boom, I'monto something.
So I turned around and soldnext to my mom for five cents.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Love it.
She was like wait, is that howit's supposed to work?
But I'm sure that they werejust like immensely proud of you
at the same time, like wow,look at her.
And we didn't even have tocoach her and mentor her through
that.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, and then I like to say I co-owned my first
restaurant, or a restaurant,with my best friend when I was
11.
And because it was sosuccessful, we opened a second
location, but it was in herbasement instead of mine.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh my gosh, I love it .
It's so great.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
So that entrepreneurial thread clearly
was strong.
But when we talk about likeadult entrepreneurship, that
came for me after motherhood.
It was actually becoming amother.
So I have four children andafter my daughter was born I was
in the marketing communicationsfield and the firm that I

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worked with was actually a smallwoman owned firm.
They were pretty progressive intheir approach because they
started their firm out of a jobshare situation with at the time
it was National City Bank andthey were like we could offer
the services better than vendors.
So that's why they startedtheir firm.
So, and also because of theirfamily, so they were very

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gracious.
When I had my daughter I wasable to actually job share with
another woman who also had herfirst child at the same time.
But about a year after Irealized I wanted more say so
over my time and flexibility.
So again they were gracious andkept me on as a freelancer
until I had our second child 20months later and right around

(07:20):
that time that was when theeconomy was tanking, because
this was back in 2000.
That would have been 2006.
So at that point I was like, ok, I'm going to focus on
motherhood, but again thatentrepreneurial aspect and just
I do I love working started tocome up for me.

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So I ended up starting anorganizing business with a
friend and it was actually inthat that I I the Lord called me
to coaching, which is what I donow, because it was really
early on and I was sensingthere's more than what, there's
more to what is going on forpeople than they just don't know

(08:01):
how to organize.
And the idea of going into aspace, getting it looking great
and organized, but it going backto chaos it just didn't sit
well with me.
So it was actually during naptime, a time of prayer, and I
was like Lord, how do I actuallyhelp people on a transformative
level?
And I heard almost audiblynever had this experience before
this time but I heard lifecoach.
I was like is life coach?

(08:23):
Cause this was 2006.
Yeah, and you know, thecoaching industry was really in
its infancy at that time.
I'm like, well, if this is Godand not me, I'll Google it and
it'll come up, which it did.
So that's how I got my coachingcertification and there's been
a lot of twists and turns sincethen, but really that's how that
worked for me.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Beautiful, what a beautiful story, and I love that
you were like audibly.
I heard it because I do like.
That was a kind of a pendingquestion for me, even within the
last 24 hours of having anothergal interviewed on Thursday.
It was like, how do you reallydecipher this difference between

(09:03):
like as you are going activelyinto prayer and praying on
something, the thoughts thatcome to you, versus like what
could intuitively be coming toyou from God?
I don't know, I have always hadfaith as kind of that
foundational piece for me, butnow I'm really coming into like

(09:26):
strengthening that, and prayeris one of the ways that I'm
strengthening that and I don't Ican't say that I've ever
audibly like heard anything likeintuitively, and then I go, oh,
is that me or is that Godspeaking to me?
I don't know, I just don't know.
And so maybe we could spendjust a little bit of time

(09:46):
talking about what that, whatthat, has looked like for you
over the years.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and that moment it took, I think, a number of
years before I had thoseexperiences again.
And if you want to know thevoice of the Lord, you just need
to ask right, because he tellsus in scripture he promises If
you have accepted Jesus as yourLord and savior, he is your good
shepherd.
And he says my sheep will knowmy voice and we have the gift of

(10:15):
the Holy Spirit, which is ourcommunication channel.
So the first thing is you gotto claim that scripture.
And I talked to so manyChristians that are walking
around doubting if they know howto hear God or that they're
hearing him clearly.
And I say like, while there'swisdom in not assuming you're
always hearing God, like there'swisdom in asking him right for

(10:35):
confirmation.
He wants his children to knowthat we know what his voice
sounds like and it soundsdifferently.
It's not like I always hear Godaudibly.
I would say those moments aremuch fewer and further between.
Sometimes it's just this, Idon't.
It's like something in myspirit that resonates.
It's again, the spirit willcommunicate in non-words, right?

(10:59):
It says like sometimes it'sthrough whatever.
So it's not.
It's not like we are talkingright now.
It's not always that obvious.
I mean, there's so many timeswhere I'm like Lord, can you
just text me it?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
would be a lot easier .

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But part of that is growing our faith muscle and
it's asking him to grow thatfaith muscle as well.
And one of the ways that he'slike, okay, I'm going to help
you grow it is is having that.
It's taking that leap of faithand trusting as you send
something like.
First we're like, okay, doesthis go against God's word at

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all?
And as long as it doesn't goagainst God's word, right, it's
consistent with what we knowabout his character.
Then you take a step of faithand trust.
He's gonna let you know whetherthat was the step he was
inviting you to take or whetheryou're starting to go astray.
And I'd say like that only bytaking those steps when you

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don't know are you going tobetter learn and discern when
it's his voice versus when itisn't.
So yeah, so you can grow that.
Like one of the things he hadme do.
I participated in the summitrecently and I felt like he put
on my heart to pray for thespeakers.
I'm like, okay, you know it'spraying for people, that's what

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we do as Christians.
But then he was like no, I wantyou to tell them what I'm
giving you for them.
So so I was okay.
Well, I'm like, give me theword that you have.
And so I reached out and wasjust like hey, this is, you know
what I felt like the Lord wassaying.

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And it was amazing to see how,how on target the majority of
those were.
And these were not women, mostof them, I didn't know, never
met before.
Halfway.
About halfway through, I waslike I'm not, I'm only going to
see their name, I'm not going tolook at anything about them
first and ask and it was like itwas that was confirmation or
like that's practicing right,it's developing the faith faith

(13:06):
muscle.
And I would say to them listen,I could be completely off base.
If this is from the Lord,you'll know it, because he will
confirm it or he's already beentalking to you about that so
beautiful.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I love that you just shared that instance too and
really tied all of that togetherand thank, thank you.
That was super helpful for mebecause that was really sort of
this like pending question thatI had as I had the interview on
Thursday.
Now coming into this interviewand sort of hearing this key
theme of like trusting in whatGod is asking you to do and

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hearing him talk through thatwith you and I'm like, what does
that look like?
And again, it's maybe that ithas been the circumstance for me
in various ways where I'mquestioning or I'm doubting, and
having this conversation withGod and having faith over fear

(14:04):
in certain circumstances.
My guess is it probably had alot to do with what was coming
to me and I thought, oh, maybethat was just my own intuitive
thoughts, probably not.
So thank you for providingclarity in that Cause.
That was super helpful.
I want to go back because youhad mentioned that you have four

(14:26):
children.
Can you provide the ages ofthem?
And then I'd like to just givecontext to the listeners of when
you started this journey intocoaching as well and where the
kids were at, and then we cankind of dive into that
motherhood piece and then we cankind of dive into that
motherhood piece?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Currently I have four kids whoare our daughter's 21.
And then we have three boys whoare 19, 18, and 15.
I get three months where I getto do like night or 21, 19, 17,

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15.
But what as soon as our son,who in October, turns out like
how old are?
they now, so yeah, they are nowas far as context.
So the call to coaching againthat came out of having this
organizing business with afriend I was actually pregnant
with our third child are now 18year old at the time, so that

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was back in 2006, but I wasobedient to get my coaching
certification, and that tookabout a year and a half to two
years to get that.
When I got that, though, I hadthis.
It was a moment both of thattug of motherhood but also fear.
So the motherhood part was, youknow, back in 2008, even the

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idea of an online businesswasn't I'm sure people had the
vision of it, but the technology, the abilities, that it wasn't
there like it is now, and hadthis moment of okay, if I'm
going to do this as a business,and that means I need to go
outside of the home and donetworking and relationship
building and there was thatmother part of me was like, oh,

(16:12):
I don't want to have to alwaysleave my kids or work that
around.
So I was like I'll just setthis aside until they get older.
So in the meantime, we had ourfourth child, and then, when he
went to kindergarten so we fastforward from about 2008 to about
2018, I knew that that was okay.
I'm, I'm freed up to reallypursue the business.

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Also, by then, online businesswas very much part of the fabric
of the marketplace, but I stillhad this fear, so I didn't.
I decided what I wanted to do,which was step in with an MLM
because they call them theirdistributors, coaches instead of
just trusting the Lord but hehad actually spoken to, like

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2018, where he's like you needto do what I told you to do,
which is actually coach, notkind of sort of pretend you're
coaching, but coach.
So that really started myjourney into coaching and
leading up to what I do now.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh my gosh, so beautiful.
And also I love that you reallyencapsulize this moment of,
encapsulize this moment of I Iunderstood that there was this,
this probing of what I should do.
I also understood that there'sa time and a place for it and to

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allow motherhood to really takethe reins in that circumstance
and then come back when timereally felt like it was right,
and also working through thisemotion of fear.
But how beautiful is it thatyou can literally go to those
individuals that you arecoaching and go faith over fear,

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baby.
And I want to give you someexamples of what this has looked
like.
And let me start with mypersonal story.
This is what my personal storyhas looked like.
And just know that everythingthat you want and dream of is on
the other side of fear.
And this is the resounding like, like instances of that and

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what it looks like.
It's just so powerful and Ilove that you can tie all of
that in very beautifully.
So what were some of the waysthat you were harmonizing that
with?
You know, having having yourchildren, that now four of them
you're kind of full on swinginto the things with the

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coaching business and there's alot of independence that has
been established with yourchildren by that time point.
But you're still mom and youguys are still parents, and your
children four still need you.
So what were some of the peaksand valleys that you had

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experienced as you were divingfull on into being an
independent coach?
Away from this how did youphrase it?
The MLM of like coaching?
What did all of that look likefor you?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Very messy.
I, especially starting with theMLM and again the on the idea
of running a business throughthe online space was a much
newer concept and when you'rejust starting out in general in
business in general but anythingnew you are looking to people

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who seem like they aresucceeding as guides, right, and
I mean the Bible says we doneed advisors, with many
advisors, and succeed.
So that isn't the bad thing,but I didn't really consider the
source or I kind of brushedthat to the side.
I justified well, these peopleare succeeding specifically in

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this MLM space.
So who am I to?
Even though I know the Lord wasgiving me words to do things
differently, because he's alwaysdone that for me.
I brushed that to the sidebecause it was a who am I?
I've never built a multi sixfigure business Like I've never
done this before, and so adopteda lot of toxic mindsets and

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habits that came along with that, and so then there's a process
of unlearning things that youlearn, and I know this happens
for many business owners,especially in the online space,
because of the level ofinformation and people that
you're exposed to.
I actually believe the Lord ison the move in the marketplace

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right now, specifically forpeople who are saying they are
kingdom and who are believers,because he's seen this and you
think about a lot of thebusiness practices that are in
place.
They're not coming out ofbelievers, they're coming out of
the world.
So, even as believers, likethere's this, I feel like
there's this sifting that hewants to do to say what really
is kingdom and then what is not.

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But so, yes, very messy.
It definitely impacted my timeand also perception of what it
looks like to work, like whenit's my family on the phone, a
lot like.
Actually, I resisted getting asmartphone until I was several

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months, I think, into that MLM,because I was like, oh, who
needs to be on the phone all thetime?
But then it is a tool that doesmake things easier, right?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
So then the perception is.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
The perception is you are, you're always on the phone
, you're always working and,fair enough, I did not have
healthy boundaries around that.
So, again, that was somethingthat I had to work through and,
in addition to a lot of fears,my own fears and just negative
self-talk that were present,things that I had to work

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through.
So there are.
There's actually been a lot ofvalleys, a lot of valleys, but
the peaks are seeing God'spatience in like, encouraging me
but, yeah, bringingencouragement, coming to a place
now where I feel much moreconfident in him and I've had to

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learn new levels of trust inhim, in how he's created me and
in the abilities that he's givento me.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So beautiful.
I I love that you are.
Again, you're diving into thosevalleys and talking about how
there's these different traitsthat you started to encompass,
and I mean it's that you startedto encompass and I mean it's
we're all susceptible and we'reall guilty of it, right, and

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whether that's like I mean I can.
The first example that's reallycoming to mind is like this
whole realm of social media andhow we're just over inundated
with so much information thatthere one, there's a little bit
of analysis, of paralysis orvice versa, paralysis of
analysis.
And also, because you have thisat your fingertips and you've

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got people nationwide and eveninternationally at your
fingertips, all through oursmartphones, it's hard not to
dive into these lives of peopleand feel like you're comparing
yourself to them too, and so Idon't want to assume that that's
some of the things that youwere working through, but I can

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undoubtedly say that I'm surethat there are listeners right
now that are going, raisingtheir hand and saying, yeah,
absolutely.
And this is, you know, reallybeen a prominent thing,
especially over the last coupleof years, as we keep just
elevating what that technologylooks like through our

(24:12):
smartphones.
Wonderful tool, however,creating the borders and the
boundaries around it.
It's so critical and soimportant and I'm glad that you
bring that up.
Are you willing to go to thisspace of some of those areas of
toxicity that you had talkedabout and how you peeled back

(24:34):
those onion layers to come backto who you, you are, who Andrea
is, so that then you can, as acoach, pour into other people?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, and I feel like we could go in different
directions with this, so forsure, with the phone and those
boundaries.
It took a bit for me to come tohumbling myself in relationship
with my husband and realizing,like, if he's expressing this
frustration, that as his wife,it is my job to hear that and to

(25:14):
consider it and even and tostop justifying, while I'm doing
this to build a business, right, right, cause I've come to one
of the Lord.
The analogies that the Lord hasgiven to me based on what I'm
doing now is if your businessand your life are fighting like

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siblings, like that's, he's notgoing to reward that and
realizing our definition asbusiness owners of prospering
and success is so narrow.
It usually comes down to what'sin your bank account and
specifically, what's getting youto get that money in your bank
account.
But I don't believe the Lord isgoing to champion anything that

(25:57):
has you creating relationalstress or remaining in spiritual
poverty for the sake of whatyou're building in your bank
account or your business.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
He just isn't that is really a great testament and I
truly resonate with that that.
I also want to tie in one of myoriginal OG previous guests.
Um, who's a habit coach, deidreWegman.

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I don't know if you had anopportunity to like plug into
that episode, but I mean she shereally talks about and pours
into this idea of like how isyour lifestyle a part of your
business and how is yourbusiness a part of your
lifestyle?
Because only at that point canit really be symbiotic and like,
can you harmonize this, andwhen you're able to do that,

(26:53):
that's when that energy flow isjust so much more positive and
so much better, and I love thatyou also then go.
God isn't going to want you tohave this like rivalry between
your lifestyle and your business.
How can, how can it cometogether?
How can they mesh together?
What has that looked like foryou?

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What has that?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
looked like for you.
Again, it can feel messy attimes, but it is linked to
trusting the Lord, especiallywith our time no-transcript, and

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we always have ideas andvisions and possibilities of
what can be done and very longto-do lists, and so the act of
trust is realizing our to-dolist is always gonna be longer
than the hours that we have in aday and we don't even know
what's gonna happen one minutefrom now, two seconds from now.
We don't.
We need to have the humility torecognize we don't even know
what's going to happen oneminute from now, two seconds
from now.
We don't.
We need to have the humility torecognize we don't know.
And so one of the ways that Iencourage my clients and help

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them to shift their thinkingaround time is acknowledging if
the Lord has given you a family,that is, after him, your
highest priority, and he knowswhat is going on with your
family members.
He knows when your kids aregoing to interrupt you, he knows
when there's a crisis that'scoming, and so he's not shaming

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you if you don't get to yourto-do list because your child
needs you or your husband needsyou or your parents need you.
So it's learning how to walkall of that out together.
And that's really where thecoaching comes in, because it's
it's not linear, it's notstraightforward.
Everyone has their own storiesthat come with it, so it's just

(28:48):
figuring out.
Okay, we got to startseparating.
What is the Lord calling you to?
What is what have you obligatedyourself to that?
He's like no, I never asked youto do that or never asked you
to take that on.
And then, as you start tosteward what he's actually given
you when you have interruptions, remembering he saw those

(29:12):
coming, and so it's like thatact of faith and trust again
like what are you going to do inthat moment?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh it's, it's so good .
Andrea and I I can't help butjust share this with the
listeners that perhaps, onceeverything pans out with like
the audio of this podcastliterally in the moment as you
were saying, all of that therewas on my end what I'm hearing
is some glitchiness, right, andI'm like the Lord probably.
He already probably knew thatthat was going to happen and

(29:42):
maybe maybe, just maybe, aftereverything is hashed out, that
it actually comes out like superclear.
We'll see, we'll just see.
We kind of have to just go withthe flow sometimes.
But I think one of the thoughtsthat had come to my head as you
were explaining that is it's notnecessarily a test, right?

(30:05):
It's how are you going torespond?
How are you going to react inthose circumstances?
How are you going to respond inpatients, like what is patients
going to look like through allof that?
In patience, like what ispatience going to look like
through all of that?
What are the specific musclesthat you're going to exercise

(30:26):
that, um, God really wants youto lean into?
And it's probably patience,it's probably perseverance, and
I'm sure all of these arespecific components of who we
are as human beings that youtalk through with your clients
to patience, perseverance,tenacity and just like really

(30:47):
sitting in that, that trust inwhat's about to happen for you
and that it's always going to bean opportunity to learn.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yes, and it's not easy.
I mean, he had to deal with me.
It was actually September ofthis year.
So, first of all, he gave metwo words for 2024, which was go
when I was like yes, you'remomentum, and then he's like I
saw almost in parentheses slow.
I was like, oh, so when that?
Yeah, and isn't it funny thatthat's our reaction, right,

(31:17):
Especially when we're go-gettersis wait a minute.
How does slow fit?
That doesn't sound fun.
So finally and I can be't fullygetting it I told you to go
slow, so I had to do that inSeptember.

(31:43):
So walking things out and at amuch slower pace, taking things
off of my calendar.
It wasn't comfortable but itwas good.
I came out of that month with amuch more settled piece and
realizing well, and this is theother thing with technology that
you kind of touched on,especially with AI, is because

(32:04):
now it feels like we have thetools to do things at warp speed
, but it's like that's not God'sintention and, yeah, so it's.
It's again.
It's complicated, there's a lotof wrestling that's involved,
but through this year I'mlearning.
Yeah, it's, it's like takingthat deep breath and practicing

(32:28):
staying in step with the Lordinstead of racing ahead or
sometimes lagging behind.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah.
And then it's yeah to yourpoint.
It's like how do you createthat?
This is probably one of thevery few times that I'll use the
word balance, right, like.
Usually I like to replacebalance with harmonizing, but,
like, this is probably one ofthe very few times that I'll say
like, how can you create thatbalance of?
Like that I'll say, like, howcan you create that balance of

(33:04):
like okay, go slow in God's time, but then not so slow that it's
like, okay, now we're notactually moving the needle the
way that he wants you to, orthat like aligns with really
that vision of where you seeyourself personally, or yourself
professionally, going, and thenalso people that you're working

(33:24):
with too and having thepatience as you're coaching them
through some of those kinks, soto speak.
I had this question come tomind of like when was your your
big leap of faith, like full-ongoing into this coaching?
Like, what was?
What year was it?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Again, that was around 2018, but actually
there's a moment that was abigger leap of faith that I felt
like since, like, the Lordwants me to share this story, so
I've noticed that again, asentrepreneurs, it's really easy.
Typically, we like to be incontrol and it's really easy for

(34:14):
us to be in a decision makingrole, which means we are often
the ones that are deciding whatwe think needs to be done in our
business, and that is a hugepart of my story.
That is a huge part of my storyAgain.
I had decided to go to the MLMbecause I was like this I
justified doing it Right andthat wasn't what the Lord had
called me to.
When I went into coaching in2018, I didn't stop and ask Lord
specifically what kind of coach?
I decided health coachingbecause I had had a health

(34:35):
transformation.
I got a health coachingcertification and it was good.
Actually, again, the way thatthe Lord works and redeems and
all of that.
He's using that today.
But I still continue to wrestlefor more years than it was.
Just, it was frustrating, justcontinue to wrestle with trying

(34:56):
to build a business.
And it was frustrating, justcontinue to wrestle with trying
to build a business.
And it was in 2022 yeah, 2022that I'd started a partnership
with a friend.
Like on paper, it should havegone really good, like us
working together collaborativelyto help grow a business.
Well, it went so and it washard like we're both believers

(35:19):
and it wasn't like we wanted itto go that way.
There was like a lot of tears,prayers, all of that.
So we finally came to theconclusion, like not even a year
into this partnership, you know, we just need to end, like the
legal part of the partnership,but come at this at a little
different way.
That might work a little better.
We had brought people into theprogram, so we also didn't want

(35:41):
to leave them hanging.
Well, it still continued to bevery painful and challenging and
yet, when we decided to legallyend the partnership, I saw my
business partner like shestarted to have a lot of success
, people coming in and I didn't,and so I was having it out with

(36:01):
God and I still remember it was.
I was taking a walk along LakeErie, actually, where I live,
and I was like Lord, like whatthe heck?
Like I thought I was doing thisfor you.
You know, I knew like why, whyam I struggling so hard and why
is my business partner seeingthe success?
Like?
It was so painful, and againalmost audibly, what I heard was

(36:23):
, well, she's walking in herfavor and you aren't.
I was like, who talk about likea gut punch?
Wow, so 2023, beginning of 2023, I was like, okay, I, it was
like having a come to Jesusmoment.
I'm like I need to stop what I'mdoing.
And that was and the the funnything is, kelly I had sensed for

(36:46):
years, like in seeing my ownstruggle in business, that I'm
like I just wish I could startover, start fresh, but I didn't.
I, I was too afraid to actuallymake that leap, yeah.
And so it came to that momentand I was like, okay, I need to
do what I have said all along Iwant to do.
And so I took.
I was like, okay, god, this iscompletely in your hands.

(37:09):
I have no idea how this isgoing to look.
I will not do anything until Ihave clarity from you.
Well, he's gracious.
So within a few weeks, I knewit was business coaching was
actually where I was meant toland.
But then I took more time topray about what that actually
was, because you know, businesscoaching, you can go in so many

(37:30):
different directions and evensince then it's still been a
process and a walking it out andlearning.
And then I really feel like itwasn't until the summer of this
year where he kind of broughteverything into focus, like
bringing that health coaching inas well as the faith and
business aspect.
So now I realize he's gifted meto be like a chiropractor, but

(37:52):
for faith and business, becausehe helps me to see where these
misalignments are showing up,how we aren't actually walking
out the way the Lord has calledus to.
Because of my story, right,because I've done such an
awesome job of not aligningmyself with him.
So it's like that plank andspeck parable living itself out.
He had to work with me to getthat plank out of my eyes so I

(38:15):
can help with the speck inothers so that they can grow
their business in alignment withhim and to really prosper in
all ways, not just financially.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I resonate so much with all that you just shared
and I recollect from our initialconversation over zoom which
gosh I feel like that was.
It felt like it was months agowhen it really wasn't probably
that long ago, but I rememberyou sharing about that health

(38:45):
aspect of the coaching andwhat's really interesting about
our journey as entrepreneurs, aswomen, is to really take into
respect this holistic viewpointof what that looks like and this

(39:07):
was really made like.
My eyes were opened up veryclearly to this like holistic
wheel approach to how you handlelife in general.
And again this goes to thelifestyle and business meshing
together.
It's when you really take thatholistic approach to how you

(39:31):
handle your personal and yourbusiness life, and health is a
major aspect of that, becausewhen you're not operating in and
it shouldn't always have to beat peak performance, right but
there is this component of goingwhat am I putting into my body?

(39:52):
How am I moving my body?
How mentally like my brain?
What am I intaking mentally?
That is shifting one way oranother how I'm looking at
things.
I love that you all of a suddenhad this click, alignment

(40:14):
moment of like oh, I can utilizeall of what I had been doing
with health coaching intobusiness coaching.
Talk through when you had thatalignment.
How has that evolved for you?
What has that looked like?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, it's still newer, but even being able to
give language to it, as I sharethat analogy of the chiropractor
, that that was from the LordI've had so many people be like,
oh, I get it, Like I understandwhat that looks like.
And for anyone who's ever beento a chiropractor, like you know
, oh, that there's things thatyou think are unrelated, that

(40:59):
are actually connected to yourspine, and yet the chiropractor
is gifted and skilled and beingable to figure out you know
where things are, are not inalignment, and yet the
chiropractor is gifted andskilled and being able to figure
out you know where things are,are not in alignment, and then
how that frees you up to moveforward.
And so, for me, the place wherethe health part really lands
cause I don't I'm not going todo things around nutrition or
exercise, I will refer that outbut the part that the Lord is

(41:25):
using specifically is stress, ishow stress shows that, because
I believe stress ismisunderstood and even anxiety
is misunderstood and they'reconnected.
So, realizing that a lot oftimes when we think of anxiety,
it is I need medication, I needcounseling, or like we have a

(41:45):
specific picture, I think, ofwhat anxiety looks like.
And so one of the things heshowed me was well, there's high
functioning anxiety, where onthe surface, it looks like
you're doing fine, butunderneath, that's where all the
doubts are coming in, whereworries about money or clients,
customers, coming in, overguessor overthinking and trying to do

(42:08):
things perfectly and from aplace of people pleasing.
There's so many aspects and itwas almost like having that term
high functioning anxiety.
It ties a bow on all of thesefactors that show up and impact
our businesses because itcreates this stop and start.
It's like going back to that goand slow.
It's like you're trying to.
If you're trying to drive yourcar and you have your foot on

(42:31):
the gas pedal but you also haveyour foot on the brake, yeah.
Or if you, or if you're tryingto drive with your emergency
brake on.
That's what high functioninganxiety, to me too, is.
It's like I'm trying to go, butI've got my emergency break on,
and so it just createsdeterioration and stuckness, and
it's so much easier to maintainmomentum once you have it.

(42:54):
Then it is to to deal with yourstop and start patterns, and so
I love that he gave me thatbackground in health coaching
Again, that kind of redemptionand that grace and that mercy
that comes in, because it's sucha critical piece of being able
to help my clients like clearout those, those underlying
blocks that have actuallystopped them from being in

(43:16):
alignment with the Lord in theirbusiness.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
How powerful and how fortunate are the clients to be
working alongside you.
Seriously.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
It's all.
It's all his work.
It goes back to I I don't knowwhat they need.
He knows what they need, sowe're just trusting him to do
his work in the session andthat's why I yes, that's why I
know that the clients who workwith me get the results they do,
because it's not about me, it'sjust creating this space for

(43:50):
God to do the work he's beenwanting to do and to have me
come alongside and to encourageand then help, show them or help
them to see, like, where thesesubtleties lie, so they can
clear them out.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I am curious if you're willing to be brave and
share what a very dark momenthas been for you.
I know you had spoke earlier inour conversation about going
through your own specificjourneys health journey and how
you could speak to some of thatbut are you willing to be brave

(44:27):
and share one of those reallydark moments and how you worked
through it?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, the one of the darkest moments I can remember
was when my kids were actuallylittle, had our fourth child in

(44:52):
June of so it would be 2009.
And in that time I decided tohomeschool my daughter.
It was such.
The reason was because Icouldn't figure out how am I
going to go get her at nap time.
That was what got started melooking into the homeschooling
thing.
So it was fear.
It was a fear base Like how amI going to figure this out?
Me self-reliance too, but I didsee the positives and the

(45:13):
beautiful things inhomeschooling so I was like,
okay, I'm going to do this.
So have a fourth child, decideto homeschool.
And then, a couple months later,my husband and I have owned
rental properties and we took onanother one that ended up being
this nightmare, like we had toreplace.
It was a it's a three familyhome.

(45:33):
We had to replace the stack forall three floors and we had to
replace the sewer line from thehouse to the street.
So if anybody who is listeninghas familiarity with house
projects, you know that.
You know.
You know what that was like andit was a hefty bill that we
weren't expecting and becauseour intention was to have one of

(45:56):
my sisters my youngest sisterbe one of our tenants and in
that time that we bought thehouse they announced they were
expecting their first child.
So literally we had a specificdeadline right.
So my husband and my parentswere both working to try and get
this house ready for them,literally with this deadline of

(46:17):
my nephew's arrival looming.
And so in that time whathappened was again I have four
kids who are like six years oldand under homeschooling,
somewhat dealing with that likesecondhand dealing with that
stress of this house, havingfeeling like I couldn't ask for
help because I felt I was beingselfish If I said to my parents

(46:39):
or my husband like I need youhere, I need you to not work on
the house because the focus wason that.
So that was very actuallytraumatic for me and it was dark
and it spun into this time ofputting all of this pressure on
myself to feel like I had tofigure it out.
And we have anxiety in ourfamily line, so I know that was

(47:00):
playing into it too and notreally realizing it.
But I persevered with thehomeschooling for two and a half
years and then there came thismoment.
It was actually right aroundthis time of year.
So this would have been like acouple of years after we had
started that house project whereI yelled at my daughter because

(47:20):
she couldn't figure out how tosolve a math problem and yeah it
was.
I like I have lost allperspective.
I don't know I've I've lostperspective on.
Is this like my daughter justbeing?
You know, kids are like, oh, Idon't want to do the work.
Versus mom, I understand, I'mlike I need to stop.
So I literally called the schooldistrict.

(47:41):
I was like um, after the break,can the my kids like get, can
we enroll them in school?
And and I remember the whoeverI was talking to they're like
well, the semester doesn't endtill the end of January.
Do you want to just wait till?
Then I was like I was.
I would have had a breakdown.
If they told me that I had towait till the end of January, I
probably would have like burstinto tears.

(48:03):
I'm back to school at thebeginning of January because I
felt that desperate and it washard.
Kelly and I felt like when, um,so it was our daughter and our
oldest son that ended up goinginto the school system again
that first day, I felt likethere was a huge weight that

(48:24):
lifted off of me.
I felt like I could breatheagain.
But it wasn't until a few weeks, maybe, into this change, that
my husband made a comment.
I can't even remember what thesituation was, but I laughed and
he's like I haven't heard youlaugh for months.
Wow, and I had no idea.
I had no idea that it hadgotten that bad, where I hadn't

(48:45):
even left, where my husbandcouldn't even remember me
laughing.
So, yes, that is definitely thedarkest moment and I didn't
want to.
I didn't want to be there.
And I remember asking God likewhy can you just remove this
anxiety and this tension from me?
And he spoke through two things, like so, talking about the

(49:07):
different ways God speaks to you, you know, in the movie Finding
Nemo, where, where Marlon andDory are facing that, that
trench that they're supposed togo through right, and Dory's
like we just have to go throughit.
And I started crying because Ifelt like God is saying we just
have to go through it.
And then I was reading I thinkit was Going on a Bear Hunt.

(49:29):
You know that book, right?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Where it's like we can't go over it.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
We can't go under it, we just have to go through it
again.
I started bawling.
I was like oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
You know, I have to giggle with you because, darn
Disney movies and, just like asan adult, as a parent, as you're
watching that, and both myhusband and I have had these
moments Encanto was one of themas we were watching it and my
husband and I at one point lookat each other and we're just
tears streaming down our facesbecause we are, you know,
understanding the power in someof the words and just working

(50:13):
through some of those issuesthat the characters are going
through and applying it to ourown lives and stuff that we may
had already gone through or thatwe were currently going through
.
I'm like Walt Disney's got itfigured out.
He really knows how to pull atthose heartstrings, like just
encapsulating it for thechildren but bringing it home

(50:37):
for the parents.
And then children's books too.
You know it's as you're readingit, it really it's almost
sometimes as I'm reading booksfor my daughter.
I'm like I think this isactually for me and not for her,
like I think I needed to havethis moment.
As I'm reading through some ofthese words and go, oh yeah,

(51:00):
that was actually for me.
It's just, it's wild Some ofthe ways, you know, you talk
about how God can speak to youand how we can just be provided
that wisdom.
And it's not always justthrough like that singular
moment of prayer.
It can be through a movie, itcan be through somebody else, it

(51:21):
can be through a book thatyou're reading and all of a
sudden it just like somethingclicks and you go, got it Duly
noted, moving forward.
We're going to fix this.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I mean, god is too big to fit in a box, right?
And the fact that he used adonkey to speak to Balaam to get
him to correct it.
You know, it's just, it's proofGod will use what he will use
what he needs to to get amessage through when he knows
that we need to hear it.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
so so good, it's so good.
I really appreciate you sharingthat moment and I think, as
other women are listening rightnow and men for that for that
matter too, because I do have alot of husbands that are
listening to their wivesinterviews, and so, you know,

(52:15):
for our listeners it's it'sunderstanding that these, these
dark moments that we go throughwhile to an outsider may not
seem like it's that big of achallenge in the moment.
You just have no understandingor context until you are in that

(52:38):
moment as a mother, as a father, as a parent, and trying to
balance all of the differentthings that are coming at you,
like real life circumstances,like set the phone down right,
like forget about that.
I'm talking about real lifecircumstances where you

(52:59):
understand that you've got thisbusiness that has to operate.
You may also be likehomeschooling in that moment.
Or you are literally sittingdown and just trying to do
homework with your child, like Ithink back to COVID and how,

(53:20):
all of a sudden, we're whippedinto this completely different
environment of having childrenat home, when otherwise that
wasn't the circumstance and Iwas not a parent in that moment.
I was only hearing it throughthe lens of my friends who were
parents and I was like man, Imean, I bet it was tough.

(53:40):
Yeah, like I'm, my viewpointlooks so different because I'm
as as like this person who lovesto be around people and thrives
in that environment, beingaround people, being told that I
needed to be in my home and notaround, and then doing stuff
like this over zoom.
You just didn't, it didn't feelthe same.

(54:03):
But as a parent, you're going.
You have no idea, as a singleperson, the the stuff that's
happening right now Like I'vegot a kindergartner and I've got
, you know this, like I've got akindergartner and even though,
like that, they probably don'thave that much in terms of, like
homework and stuff, but they'rehopping on a zoom call while

(54:26):
you're also trying to be on azoom call.
And how do you even fathomtrying to do all of these things
at once?
That starts to create thatstress and that starts to create
that anxiety.
And then, all of a sudden, it'slike lunchtime and you're like,
well, lunch was just me before,and now lunch is like.
Now I've got to provide moretime around.

(54:47):
What this looks like Like.
These are just a coupledifferent examples of what that
could look like as a parentworking through challenges of
having your child there whenthat's not normally the
circumstance.
I have such sympathy for it.
I can't truly empathize to itbecause I haven't gone through

(55:10):
that experience of homeschooling, but I can totally sympathize
to trying to work while alsohaving a toddler running around.
I can empathize to thatwholeheartedly.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yes, yeah, I was grateful my kids were on the
older end because, likewise, Ithink that was one of the
reasons too, why I laid businessdown is when my kids were
little is because I can beoverwhelmed, like I I'd say I'm
more of a high or a highlysensitive person.
I'm more of a high or a highlysensitive person, so noise,

(55:51):
having people in my my spacewhile I'm trying to work is
extremely distracting.
I know some people can do itwell, I'm not wired that way.
So I think that was one of theother reasons too is I was like
how am I going to do this?
Because I can't really focus.
So I was just like I'm just,I'm going to focus on the kids
when they're little.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, I I actually am having kind of a aha moment for
myself and I'll explain it likethis so when I, when my husband
now husband and I starteddating so he has two kids from
his previous marriage and whenwe started spending more and

(56:29):
more and more time together, wewould be, we would have the boys
with us, and it would they'reboys.
And at that point they were acouple of years younger and you
know boys, younger boys, and sothey're loud and they're
rambunctious.
And I was trying to have aconversation with my husband now

(56:51):
husband at one point and I waslike he's like trust me, you're
going to get to this point whereyou just tune it out as a
parent.
And I was like I don't know howyou can do that.
Fast forward a couple of years.
I find myself being able to dothat a little bit more, because

(57:14):
now not only do we have a 10 andan 8-year-old boys running
around the house, but we alsohave a little toddler almost two
years old running around thehouse.
But we also have a littletoddler almost two years old
running around the house.
So there is this like sometimesyou just have to like tune it
out, but I can't fully do that.
I find myself like totally likedistracted and turning over

(57:37):
here and looking over here, andI think that I am somewhat like
you, andrea, where I'm havingthis moment of like I might have
just some of this little bit ofsensory thing, and it's not,
it's not so overpowering thatthis is a learning moment, like
real time for me, like I'mpretty sure that that's a very

(57:57):
similar circumstance, like Iparallel that with you.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
So are you also a low light person Like does over, do
overhead lights on?
Does that bother you?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
It's.
I have some sensitivity to it.
I truly, truly do love whenit's a little bit more dim, but
when it's a nice sunny day andwe've got the full sun pouring
in, I'm like nothing is better.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, yeah.
So that could be because, like,as for me, overhead lights,
like artificial light sources,drives me crazy.
I like the mood lighting, thelow lighting, likewise sun.
I'm like bring it on Cause.
Sunlight does interact with ourbody in a different way than
artificial light does.
But lighting preferences likethat, or if there's um radio

(58:45):
noise or somebody else has musicon, that is not your choice.
Some people can tune that out.
But I found that when you'rehighly sensitive that external
stimulation, it just starts toget to you a little bit quicker.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I it's, it's interesting.
I never thought that our ourconversation might go this
direction, but I do think thatthere is a lot to be said about
all of the different like, um,circumstantial things that can
play into how you work andoperate as a mother and work and

(59:23):
operate as an entrepreneur too,and in those circumstances,
like light, sensory, auditory,like the physicalities of your
surrounding and your environmenttoo, like those are really
important, and so I don't thinkthat there's any part of this
conversation that should bedismissed.
If people are listening rightnow, like these are things that

(59:45):
you should think through and areyou, are you all of a sudden
finding yourself like havingthat wrestling, irritated moment
?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
while it could be because of some sensory stuff,
yeah, I feel like hopefullythere's more of um attention
being paid to that for children,but, I think, as adults,
because you get to a point inyour life where you're where the
perception is I'm figuring itout like I'm holding down a job

(01:00:17):
or I'm doing really well, and soyou can discount some of the
ways that you do experiencestress or what's contributing to
it, and not necessarilyrealizing a way.
This is because I've beencreated with extra sensitivities
and other people have it, andso we need to figure out how do

(01:00:39):
we work within.
God has created us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
God has created us.
That's so good.
I I I really actuallyappreciate how we have pieced in
some of that into thisconversation too.
Like I said, I do think thatit's highly important to be
aware of what that looks likefor you.
How and how can you workthrough that and really pour
into like, okay, I'm going toplay on my strengths, I'm going
to play on my areas ofopportunities.

(01:01:11):
This might be an area ofopportunity for me Again.
How can I work through it?
So, thank you for sharing someof that.
I really appreciate it.
Kind of, like I said, had alight bulb moment for myself and
going wait, a second wait.
I actually think that thatmight be the case for me.
So I appreciate it, thank you.
I want to start to land theplane for us and for our

(01:01:35):
conversation, and so one of thequestions that I'd love for you
to share is actually I've got acouple of different questions.
The first is what has yourvillage looked like for you in
support?
How have you grown that?
What?

(01:01:55):
What have you learned throughhaving this village of support,
through through all of this too?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
through all of this too.
Well, incredibly grateful forthe husband the Lord has given
me and my children as well, justknowing that they are there
cheering me on.
And, yes, my husband's alwaysbeen supportive of this ride,
this wild ride that has beenmore like a roller coaster, I'd
say.
So grateful for that.
But as far as intentionallybuilding with other

(01:02:33):
entrepreneurs is seeking out, Idon't know like use, harnessing
the power of social media to beable to connect with other
Christian entrepreneurs.
So, whether that's innetworking situations, whether
it's through messaging I'm alsoon the leadership team of a

(01:02:54):
group, that is it's a monthlymembership group.
But in the heart is, how do wehelp one another grow as
Christian entrepreneurs, likearound United as a body of
Christ, like knowing that we arebetter as the body, so looking
to show up into spaces wherepeople have similar hearts.
As that, and and then eventhinking about the friend group

(01:03:16):
that I have, I've always beensomeone who has smaller groups
of friends, cause I like to godeep and you can only really go
deep with so many people, right?
So, knowing that I have friendslike to do the fun things or
who also have such a strongheart for the Lord and, yes, all
of that it's.

(01:03:37):
It's really a full circle ofsupport.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I love it.
That was.
That was really great.
And and I'm going to pluck outthis idea that you mentioned
about how it's really tough togo deep with a lot of people

(01:04:07):
with that is that I have foundthrough the last few years is
like I had gone from this veryindependent, single self and had
a spread Like.
I felt like I had cast that netout to so many different people
and a lot of that was becauseof the specific career that I
was in, who I was networkingwith, how I was networking and

(01:04:27):
just like the net was like thisit was really really big, it was
really really wide andoutstretched.
And then, as the years continuedto go on and I started to
refine what entrepreneurshiplooked like and then how I was
growing my faith journey, likeall of a sudden it was like I've

(01:04:48):
got just a few of these reallyreally close friends and I I had
this moment of like having topeel back the onion layers of
like, oh, I used to have all ofthese like, really like what I
thought were close friends andkind of chameleon, like through
these different groups of people, only to really find out, like,

(01:05:09):
are these actually my peopleand every single one of the
people who I've encountered inlife I am grateful for.
It's been learning, it's beengrowing, it's been, you know,
understanding that everybodythat you come across serves a
purpose in your life, for you.

(01:05:31):
But to truly have just a coupleof really great, authentic,
meaningful, deep relationshipsis what I strive for and that my
family has been just reallythat like core rock for me.
I that I resonate so much withwhat you're saying and I am, I'm

(01:05:58):
hoping to that there's a lot oflisteners who are going yeah,
that that speaks to me totally.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
We even think about jesus, like even think about
jesus.
He had multitudes following him.
He had probably, of that crowd,people that were more closely
following him, but he had 12disciples.
But even within the disciplesthere were three that were the
key relationships.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Yeah, the key relationships.
Yeah, that, the keyrelationships.
Yeah, that's the.
And thank you for bringing thatinto the context of all of this
too, because there's a lot ofwhat I'm learning and how, like
you talk about, um, going slowin business.
I'm I'm going slow as I'mreading through the Bible and

(01:06:43):
reading through specificscriptures, and there is just so
much to be paralleled with andforgive me, I keep coming back
to this term like parallel andthen how I resonate with that.
It's just truly for lack ofbetter words right now, but
there are so many parallels tolike how you can operate in your
business and then how thingsoperated through the Bible,

(01:07:07):
through God bringing Jesus to us, and then how Jesus had walked
his life and it took 30 yearsfor him to really like get to
this point.
Well, how, how can we as aswomen, as business owners,
understand that sometimes, if wereally want to have such a wide

(01:07:31):
impact that it can take thatamount of time like, it can just
end up taking time and patientscan really be a resounding
characteristic for us.
Yes, what is a piece of advicethat you would give a younger

(01:07:54):
version of yourself knowing allthat you know now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
The thing when you'd shared that question ahead of
time.
I was thinking, oh, there's alot.
But seeing especially theyoungest version of myself like
in talking team years,especially right when you're
really getting more a sense ofyourself, you have more
abilities at that age is there'sI think there's so many things

(01:08:24):
that I just counted myself outof as a possibility for me and
so encouraging a younger versionof myself.
It's like if there's somethingyou want to try, go after it but
also learn how to do it.
Well, you know, don't just tryit and then the first time you
try it it doesn't go so well.
So you think, oh, I guess I'mnot good at this, right that

(01:08:47):
there's that learning andgrowing.
I think even I speak to myadult self like there's when you
see people achieving things, ifthere's something in you that's
like I'd love to do that too,then you get to start to pray
into it and asking the Lord forhelp with that and trusting that
is a direction he has for youor something he has for you.
He will help you with that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
That was so good, andrea.
I never would have thought like, go back to like even your teen
years, right and, and becurious and take some time.
Like go after something that islike intuitively coming to you
and take a little bit of time,and if you're, if it's not

(01:09:28):
clicking right away, not to juststop because you know, oh shoot
, that must mean I'm not good atit.
No, sometimes you've got totruly continue to work through
that until all of a sudden it'slike, yeah, that's actually not
for me, that's not where my Godgiven skills are, or actually,

(01:09:49):
I'm so glad that I I perseveredthrough that, and that is
exactly what I needed to do waspersevere through it all to come
up with a greater skillset, andall of it.
What's a piece of advice thatyou would give a woman who's
listening right now, who perhapsthey're just in, like they're

(01:10:14):
teetering on the edge of, ornibbling on the edge of,
entrepreneurship, or they'vethey've started on this path of
entrepreneurship?
What's advice that you wouldgive them?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
So if the Lord has called you to entrepreneurship,
then he's going to call you todo it in a unique way, like,
just like you have your ownfingerprints, your own voice.
There's no such thing as acookie cutter business, because
there's no cookie cutter you,and you are meant to honor that.
So you are meant to know howyour story, your gifts, your

(01:10:50):
skills, talents, desires, eventhe most seemingly random things
all can factor into thisbusiness that the lord is
inviting you to build.
But, as the Bible says, youneed many wise advisors.
So one of the fallacies I see alot of Christians believing is

(01:11:13):
that, well, because I know Godhas called me to this and
because I know the Lord, like Ican figure this out myself, but
he has called us to be inrelationship and there are
people who he has equipped tohelp with a piece.
That isn't your strength, andit's okay that it's not your
strength, because you havestrengths that are meant to be

(01:11:33):
used to help other people.
So it's really seeing how theLord, like how he's positioning
you, what he's positioned youfor, and then looking for the
pieces where you need that helpand that support, and it'll help
you to grow a stronger business.

(01:11:53):
I also would caution againstlistening to anybody's advice
and let until you have clarityfrom the Lord.
There are so many differentways you can go about building a
business and people will offertheir opinions and their advice,
but remember it's worked forthem in a specific way and the
Lord may be inviting you to doit a little bit differently.
And so trust that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Wow, I just feel like I was hit with some really,
really powerful words.
So thank you for that, thatinformation and just really
speaking some clarity and topeople who are listening right
now.
So, while while while I'm sothankful, I'm so, so thankful

(01:12:37):
for you carving out some timethis morning to come on share
your story and share some ofthose peaks and valleys that you
have experienced as you'regoing through motherhood and
entrepreneurship, and this lastbit of our conversation has been
really fruitful, so I'm I'mjust so honored and glad that we

(01:13:01):
have been connected from afarand really looking forward to
how our friendship andrelationship continues to grow,
andrea.
So thank you, I reallyappreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Thank you and all the glory to God for the connection
and just for his work right Inboth of our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Yes, Well, a couple last pending questions.
One what would be a really goodconnection for you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Anyone who's connected to working with other
business owners is a goodconnection.
So accountants, bookkeepers,lawyers, graphic designers,
marketing people because they'rethe ones that are seeing the
realities of what the people Iwork with are dealing with and
can really hear if there'sstress present or frustration in

(01:13:53):
a way that a casualconversation might not bring up.
So always looking for thosekind of connections or others
who are hosting podcasts andlooking for guests.
That is, I love coming on asguests and it's just such, it's
so fun to be able to have theconversation and trusting too,

(01:14:14):
that there's someone listening.
that needed to hear whatever theLord is having drawn out in our
conversation so good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
And thank you for adding that little tidbit about
how you would be very muchinterested in being a guest on
other people's podcasts, so I amsure that that will somehow
play in here down the road.
How can people get connected toyou?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
The simplest way would be at my website Andrea
Lee, cocom and Lee is L E, I G H, because that'll give you the
connection to all the thingsI've got free resources on there
, more about my program, umother ways that you can connect
with me if you are on platformslike LinkedIn.
So that is the best way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Beautiful.
Thank you, and I will be sureto drop all of that into the
show notes for our listeners tobe able to get connected to you.
And again just want to saythank you so much for carving
out the time and sharing anddropping so much wisdom into
this podcast.
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
It was so fun to be here.
I hope you have a great rest ofthe day.
Thank you.

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