Ep. 58 with Marggie Duncan | Owner & Founder, BennyAni Photography and MEE Method - Reclaiming Your Hue: A Podcast for Women Rediscovering Themselves in Motherhood & Entrepreneurship

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning, margie, good morning.
How the heck are you?
I'm good, Happy to be here, I'mso happy to have you here too,
and I can't even tell you like Iam always so excited to see
every single guest.
But after we had our initialphone conversation and I had I
got you scheduled for this I waslike I am so looking forward to

(00:21):
this because I feel like all Ikeep hearing about is like
you're the manifestation queen.
I'm so excited.
But you know, the other thingtoo is so I, we had, we have, a
couple of mutual people in ourlives, and I'm not I don't want

(00:43):
to steal your thunder but one ofthe other individuals, who I'll
share in just a second, wasjust here a few weeks ago to
interview as well.
So let's actually dive in and Ican.
I can share with you who thatperson is, but can you share
with the listeners how it isthat you and I got introduced?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
So we got introduced from MissAngie, a mutual friend of ours.
She's actually in my networkinggroup and that's how I met her.
And I was having brunch withher and telling her about my
whole journey with manifestationand my whole new business and
all the things, and she's like,oh, you have to meet Kelly.

(01:22):
And then she told me all aboutyour adventure.
And she's like, oh, you have tomeet Kelly.
And then she told me all aboutyour adventure and I was like,
yes, and then we connected.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know and I loved.
Like I said, I loved.
Well, it was a zoom call.
I loved the zoom call, I lovethe energy that you brought and
I'm so fascinated also with yourstory, which we'll dive into as
well.
I'm very excited for thelisteners to hear about all of
the journey of Margie.
So the other actually I'mthinking of two more people that

(01:54):
we know and they're in your,they're in your networking group
too yeah.
So Catherine.
Catherine uh, I always butcherher last name.
I want to say Gaiole, but it'snot.
Oh, yes, yes, I'm totallybutchered, I can't say it either
.
Okay, catherine, forgive us,yes, so sorry.
And then Christy Groh.

(02:14):
Oh, I love her, she's a dearfriend.
By the time this episode drops,I will have already had she's
coming the podcast anniversaryevent.
Oh sorry, nope, it's okay.
Christy is going to be doinglike the um swag bags for the
podcast anniversary event, whichyou're invited to as well.

(02:37):
Yes, and um, she's also.
So the fun thing about this isI'm carefully, or I'm sorry, I'm
going to back up, I'm quicklyrealizing how much it takes to
like put together an event, ohmy gosh.
And I've been kind of carrying alot of this and my husband,
finally, was like you cannot dothis alone.

(02:59):
I'm here, I will get somewingmen to come and help support
.
So husbands of some of the galswho have been on the podcast,
oh, and so.
Christy's going to be putting,she'll um be embroidering some
really nice polos for the guysthat are going to be helping out
.
And then she's I'm not going tosay, but she's giving, she's

(03:22):
putting a little something,something into the swag bag
herself.
And so I'm like, and she's like.
I mean, I talked to her in lessthan five hours.
She had sent over an email withsome options and I'm like, oh
my gosh are you kidding me yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So I'm not surprised at all, so cool.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
So those are a few more of our mutual connections.
And just to go back to ourinitial introduction by Angie,
she is just like I feel like sheis one of my like biggest
cheerleaders and I just adoreher for that and the feeling is
very much reciprocated.
I'm like such a huge fan andcheerleader of hers and, for

(04:03):
those of you who are listening,angie Herter has been on the
podcast.
I'll make sure to drop whichepisode was hers, so if you want
to go back and listen to it,it's amazing.
But anyways, we're here to talkabout Margie and dive into
Margie's story.
So, margie, what came first foryou?
Was it entrepreneurship or wasit motherhood?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know, I knew you were going to ask that and so I
thought about it and I can'tanswer it because technically I
would say mothership, but I feellike I was legit born
motherhood.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
No, no, no, you combined it.
I was like, oh, I'm going to gowith this, that's what it is
it's mothership.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I feel like I was born an entrepreneur, okay.
Like, oh, I'm going to go withthis, that's what it is.
It's mothership.
I feel like I was born anentrepreneur, okay.
And so I've always had thesevisions and I actually did start
dabbling a little bit before Iwas a mom, okay, and I did have
a little side business ofphotography way back when, okay,
and then that fizzled as Iconcentrated on my nursing
career, which we'll get to.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
So I don't know how to answer it, because
full-fledged motherhood camefirst.
You know it's interestingbecause there's been plenty of
individuals on the podcast thathave had very similar responses.
So you're not alone in thatboat by any stretch, and I think
that, depending on what yourroute is and again, you
mentioned just the nursingcomponent, we'll dive into that

(05:29):
here in a moment but if you'vegot that spirit within you, it's
hard for it, especially if yougo into a more corporate setting
.
It's hard to keep that at bayor put your thumb on it Right.
Eventually, it feels like it'sjust going to, like it's like

(05:50):
Jack in the Box is going to popout and surprise you at the at
the most incredible, but maybe,you know, maybe the not so
greatest of timings, but but,alas, it happens.
And so I love that you actuallyput all of it into context that
way, because there is somethingto be said about, like, hey, I
just sort of felt like thatspirit was always residing in me

(06:14):
.
It was just like over here onthe other side of the bay, yes,
so yeah, you mentioned nursing.
Yeah, okay, so motherhood came.
Let me back up.
Motherhood came first for you,but before being a business,
before being a business owner,but when?
Where does nursing fit into allof that?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I was a nurse first before.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I was mom.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, um, so I?
Well, first I was.
I got my marketing degree,which is completely moot, and
I'm going to age myself nowbecause we didn't have social
media when I was in college formarketing, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
And so that degree is like out the window,
fascinating how times change,huh Right.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
So then I worked in advertising for a stint of time
and I was like you know, I wantto really help people, like I
was always a you know thatperson.
And so I went back to afour-year college at SDSU, um,
south Dakota state, go Jacks inSouth Dakota, where I'm
originally from and I got myfour-year degree in nursing.
And shortly after graduation iswhen I started talking to my

(07:21):
now husband, when we moved intogether he actually bought me
my first DSLR professional gradecamera.
Well, I was a brand new nurse,so this all kind of started at
the same time, and so I was anurse.
I was working in the ER as anew nurse, which is like unheard
of, but I was learning so much,um, and that, that kind of.

(07:42):
That I lasted a year and thatthe child abuse cases, things
like that kind of took me out.
I just that wasn that kind of.
That I lasted a year and thatthe child abuse cases, things
like that kind of took me out.
I just that wasn't my kind ofnursing, though I loved the
learning environment, but Ialways knew I wanted to be a
labor nurse when I went intonursing Cute, so yes.
So then I decided in in themeantime, here I had rented this

(08:02):
cute little downtown studio.
It was like this old buildingwith, like one of those old
elevators that you have to like.
Pull the metal door shut andthen it goes like cricket,
crickety, crickety up.
I love, yes, oh, it's like itwas so cool.
Like if I had that kind ofstudio now, like and it was like
225 a month, like what, get outof town.
It was crazy.
So I had that little studiojust to go.

(08:24):
I didn't office there oranything, I just shot there and
I was doing like seniors and acouple of babies and some cake
smashes.
And then it was like, okay, I'ma nurse, like do I have time
for this?
Yeah, we didn't have kids yet,so I don't know.
Eventually it just kind of likewent on the back burner and I
focused on nursing.
And then we moved here and Ireally focused on nursing, okay,

(08:45):
and then after a few years Iwas a labor nurse for eight
years total, or a nurse foreight years total.
And so my last year in nursingis when it all kind of came
together.
My career with my passioncollided and was born Benny
Annie photography, which is anewborn especially as a newborns

(09:05):
.
Um, and I got it at the righttime, because that's when
newborn photography was becominghuge, fascinating.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
And so where do you feel like that spark came from?
Like, okay, let me back up.
So you had already had, you hadthe camera, you had the nursing
.
I'm trying to.
What I'm trying to do is kindof piece the puzzle pieces
together, right, and like whereall of a sudden it melded

(09:37):
together and you were like, yes,this is it.
Yeah, what was that initiallike flame, that all of a sudden
like well when I was working atmy last hospital.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Um, I had some really good friends and they needed
family pictures or kid picturesand they knew I had a passion
and I started doing it and a lotof them were like and I still
thank them till this day fortheir nudges there's a few in
particular that I they were likewhy you could make so much
money doing this bubble, andthat entrepreneur voice then was
really loud.

(10:07):
And so then I kind of went downthe path and eventually I went
to part-time nursing and then Iwent to casual nursing and then
it was like you know what I waspregnant with my second, three
months pregnant, and I hung upmy scrubs and I haven't looked
back and it's June will be 10years that I've been in business
, but I was in business a yearbefore I left nursing.

(10:28):
So, January was nine years thatI have since I hung up my scrubs
.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Wow, yes, I love it.
Now what's really cool and Idon't want to share too much for
the listeners because I wantyou to really dive into this but
what's cool is that you, youbuilt that to a specific amount.
I did Quickly, quickly, yes,yeah, let's, let's go there.

(10:56):
Yeah, share more.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
What I really want to touch on here for listeners is
how important it is to followyour dreams, no matter what
others are thinking.
That is just none of yourbusiness, it does not matter.
Had I done that, I would bestuck somewhere I hated.
I have goosebumps.
Because people thought I wascrazy.
Like you're leaving a nursingcareer because nurses get paid

(11:20):
well in Minnesota they really do.
Like I got a huge pay raisefrom here, from home to here,
and they were just like what,what do you do?
Like even family.
Like people thought I was crazyand for me, I never was scared
but I always told my, I alwayshad the comfort of well, I can
always go back to nursing and Istill have my license.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I mean, I could save your life, right now, if you
want man upstairs, please notlet that happen right now, I
don't want to exercise this, wedo not want to exercise this.
Let's not put that, too, at thechest, because yeah, so, so,
yeah, I was like you know what?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
No, and my husband has always been my biggest
cheerleader and he saw somethingin me and he still does with
all my new ideas.
He's such a great support.
Um, but people now are.
What they're surprised about isnot that I left, now they're
when I stay in.
Less than four years, less thanfive years, um, I was a seven

(12:16):
figure studio, seven figures,working four days a week, no
nights, no weekends no holidayswe need to and having kids in
the mix.
And having kids two kids in themix.
I have a full-time assistantLiving.
I'm living the dream.
I mean it's insane, but I knewand that's the important piece

(12:38):
there is I knew.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, I am sure that the listeners are going how,
four days a week?
How?
So maybe in you know, like,let's call it like 10 minutes,
how can you explain to thelisteners how you were
effectively able to do that?
Because that's massive growthin a short period of time, only

(13:04):
working four days a week.
So why four days a week?
First and foremost, and, um,like, what stirred you to decide
that?
But then were there specificthings that you had in place and
things like, oh, what aterrible word.
But, like, for lack of betterwords, like what were the things

(13:26):
that you put into motion foryou to be so dang effective in
those four days?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I didn't know this then, but really it was all
about my mindset and it was justhow it was.
It just that's how it was goingto be.
And, to answer your question, Idid Monday through Thursday
because I had two babies at homeand Fridays were our days.
And I still remember those daysof going to Mall of America with

(13:53):
a friend and our strollers andwe would walk and, walk and talk
and our kids would just be inthe strollers and loving it and
and I cherished those times andI did that up until my son went
to kindergarten and so we endedup having, after my daughter was
full-time school, benton and Iwould have date Fridays and so
we would go to the museums orthe zoo or you know.

(14:14):
You know, when it was both ofthem too we had a zoo membership
.
Like those precious times withmy babies when they were little,
that I'll never get back.
I have those core memories.
I know they're too little, theyprobably don't, but they see
pictures, you know, like thatwas my time with my kids and it
was a non-negotiable.
And let me tell you, when youmake something a non-negotiable,

(14:34):
when I would say to clients I'msorry, but that is my family
day, or they're like what do?
you mean, you're a photographer.
You don't work weekends.
I'm sorry, but it's a hardboundary for me.
I opened this business so thatI could have time for my family.
And that is not what I'mwilling to bend on, and they
would always.
People still take off work tocome to me.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Unbelievable.
So boundaries comes up everysingle interview.
No joke, like every singleinterview and I am doing a
follow up like a post op andsharing with the audience via

(15:17):
social media.
Like I can't even explain toyou the importance of boundaries
, like this is the most commonreigned theme, oh my gosh, and
you are setting the precedenceof.
I did that and I stayed firm toit and it's, it's so incredible
, like, did you ever so?
I, I said that, but perhapsthis is an act, a good question,

(15:39):
to follow that up.
Did you ever waver?
Did you ever waver?
And then like that up.
Did you ever waver?
Did you ever waver?
And then like, have that ahamoment of like okay, see, this
is why I don't waver onsomething like this on a
boundary that is so clearlyimportant to me.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I didn't waver because someone was like, well,
I'm not going to come to you.
Then that was not.
I never I have done like in thepast.
A big part of growing mybusiness were mini sessions
where I got to know a lot ofclients, and of course, I had
those on Saturdays.
It doesn't feel like work to me, but you know it was.
You know eight to one on aSaturday, not a big deal.

(16:17):
And you know, once every sixmonths I mean it wasn't, or like
fall mini sessions for familiesone evening a week on a weekend
during the fall, you know, or afew, depending on how busy.
When I was first starting it wasmuch.
I took a lot more and then asyou grow, you can charge more,
take less you know the Americandream Right?
Um so no, never did I let aclient say to me well then, I'm

(16:42):
not going to come.
It was okay Then.
Then I'm not the photographerfor you, sure.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And that's okay.
And did you see?
Were there instances then too?
And I think that this isimportant for the listeners to
really get an understanding of.
So I I almost said I'm notgoing to ask this question, but
I am going to Did you ever havethat moment where you did lose
business because you set theboundary?

(17:10):
Sure?
Okay, Maybe.
I mean, I'm sure I did.
The reason that I bring this upis for people to understand
that it wasn't all rainbows andbutterflies and that every time
you were like, no, sorry, Idon't work Friday, Saturday,
Sunday or whatever, I don't workthose weekend hours, and
somebody would go okay, fine,I'm going to go find another

(17:32):
photographer, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know, like it wasn't your client, that they
were interested in my work,right?
And I think, um, aside fromsetting boundaries, another huge
thing is gratitude in this, inthis life, and that between
setting boundaries and havinggratitude for everything
literally will change your life,and I can get into that more as
we talk about my new adventure,but um what a nice little

(17:54):
teaser.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
I love it.
I'm so excited, so cool yeah.
What an incredible feat, though, and you're still doing the
photography correct, okay, yeah,not near as busy okay um, by
choice.
So I I do want to.
I want to explore the, theharmonization that you created

(18:19):
with the family and home life indoing this, and and um would
you be willing to share with thelisteners too?
Were there, what were the ebbsand flows Did you experience?
It sounds like you experiencedsome of those major peaks, right
, like creating the corememories, walking around all of
America, being able to, like.
You've established yourboundaries, and so this creates

(18:41):
the flexibility to be able to dothis over here.
But, um, let's talk more, alittle bit more in depth, about
the peaks and the valleys thatyou experienced, especially in
those early years of startingthe business.
Um, so go ahead.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, so definitely.
I mean it sounds all rainbowsand butterflies, but that's not
life.
I mean there are going to bepeaks and valleys, no matter
what, and the valleys for thiswere.
But that's not life.
I mean there are going to bepeaks and valleys no matter what
, and the valleys for this werewhen you first get started.
I mean I had to take everythingright, so I remember shooting
like 90th birthday parties or socute though, oh my God they
were adorable.

(19:18):
It was a couple.
They were adorable.
I remember shooting extendedfamilies, which I just don't do
now.
It's one of my for many reasons, but I just don't.
I had to do that a lot.
And then I remember this oldergal she was probably late 70s
came to my my studio, was in ourhouse at first, came to my

(19:38):
in-home studio.
She wanted social mediapictures taken and I'm like
helping her up and down from thefloor and like posing her and a
part of me is thinking what amI doing?
Is this?
like you know, this wasn't mypassion, but in the beginning
you, literally.
my point was you, I couldn't sayno to business, right, because
I'm portfolio building andyou're working a lot because

(20:00):
you're charging.
Sorry about that, it's okay,you're charging, Sorry about
that, and you're working a lotbecause you're charging pennies,
essentially to get people inthe door, right, yeah, um, and
so you're doing a lot and Imissed um.
You know I would constantly beon my phone cause you know I

(20:20):
would.
If an email came in, I wasresponding.
You know that's reallyimportant for small business.
You know I would.
If an email came in, I wasresponding.
You know that's reallyimportant for small business.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
you know, so I'd be distracted on my phone a lot.
Um, I was speaking of as I go.
Okay, even though it's likeupside down, I'm like move the
phone.
Kelly.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, well, it was fine for me, um, but yeah, I can
remember my husband and me like, okay, we're like having family
time, can you get off yourphone phone?
Um.
And so I ended up taking, youknow, eventually all the apps
off my phone, so I don't evenknow if an email comes in
anymore, um, but you know, inthe beginning that was one thing
.
And then all up all hours ofthe night editing because I was
a one-man show, I was trying toget it out and I had so many

(20:57):
clients coming in, so yeah, itwas tiresome.
Um, there are things I couldhave handled differently, but
but the first year or two, firsttwo years was pretty intense.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
The word grueling came up and it came to mind.
I'm like it sounds like a likea trudge, but most, if not all,
of the women that I have had onthis podcast thus far and you're
going to be the 58th interview,oh my word, good for you.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Literally like those first two years.
You're, just you're, you'rebumping into those boundaries,
right You're, you're hitting thespeed bumps, and some of them
are large and some of them aresmall, but regardless, there's
speed bumps.
And what's cool is you talkedabout intention, right, like,

(21:50):
and like mindset.
Right, intention and mindset.
And when you set your intentionand you go, this is it.
I could fall back on this, butlike, this is it, and you just
keep going.
Well, it makes that that trudgeand that grueling time so much
more worth it.
Yes, when you get through thefirst couple of years, which are

(22:13):
the hardest, yes, but it wasokay because I knew what was
coming.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I knew, you know, and it wasn't that first couple of
years that it was like Mondaythrough Thursday.
Only I mean I was workingwhenever I could, um, and I
still remember, I mean then thiswas three years in my son Um, I
was editing in the hospitalwhen I was in labor.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I didn't take a maternity leave.
So I mean, I'm telling you andI remember one family.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It was a newborn I took three weeks after I had a
C-section with my son.
I took on this family but theyended up if I had said no to
them and I'm on maternity leave,I don't have FMLA, I don't have
that anymore and so I felt likeI needed to and I wanted to,
because this was my passion andI'm still building Right so I

(22:59):
took on that family, thatnewborn family.
They ended up bringing me, Ithink, two or three more
newborns that they had along theyears and then it came like I
wish I knew where they were.
Now, you know, like cause Iremember them specifically?
Cause I was like okay, I havemy C-section scar and I'm down
here shooting and it's crazy,right, but had I not, I would
have lost out on a lot ofbusiness and you can't do that

(23:21):
as a new?
no, you can't.
Maybe you can.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Maybe there would have been a better way for me to
pre-plan for my, but I had justleft nursing in January and I
had the baby in July, so yeah,okay, and thank you for putting
the timeline into context, causeI was going to ask that
question like let's, let's givekind of a timeline of what this
looked like and where the babiesfit in.

(23:47):
That for you, like I'm talkingyour babies, my babies.
So actually, let's do that.
So it was 2000, remind me 2000.
For For hanging up your hat,hanging up your scrubs for
nursing In the beginning ofJanuary of 2016.

(24:08):
2016.
Yes, okay, and then when didyour first come?
My first came in 2013.
Okay, wait, yep, take me back.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Okay, take me back.
So I had Aniston in November of13.
Okay, and I was only startingto dabble.
Okay, in fact, her newbornpictures are horrendous because
I thought I was good and Iregret that still.
Never.
Never, skimp on your newbornpictures.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh, I love it.
Yeah, oh, I'm so regretful ofthat Good advice, yes.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So anyways, I had, I was dabbling and then.
So I continued to work as alabor nurse until she was two,
Okay, and then I was pregnantwith Benton, and at three months
pregnant, I left.
I see.
Three months pregnant, you left.
I became an official licensedbusiness, an LLC, at that time,

(25:01):
in June of 2015.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That's right, because there was the year overlap of
getting the business up andrunning while also doing the
nursing and then hanging up thescrubs Okay, Got it.
And then we hit this mark oflike you have your second VSC
section and you're also out onyour own for the business.

(25:25):
So now I wholeheartedly likeunderstand what that timeline
looks like and then taking onthat particular project, and I
can't so, I, I didn't, I hadyour traditional labor and
delivery Right and so.
But I've got plenty of friendswho have had C-sections and I'm

(25:50):
like, oh, it just makes me solike I like tense up thinking
about it, Because that's a wholedifferent kind of like recovery
.
Oh yeah, and then you're up anddown as a photographer and I
don't want to like we're notgoing to linger here too long,

(26:11):
but I do think that for eachparticular path that an
entrepreneur takes, there'salways like those moments right
when you're like, ooh, this isreally really tough.
And then it's that that likeculmination of I'm, I'm
experiencing what my body isgoing through post delivery and

(26:35):
also working in the business tooand that for you, as a
photographer, was like then, ifthat makes any sense, that's a
moment, and that's a real, realmoment where people could go
gosh, like I shouldn't be doingany of this right now.
Right, I shouldn't.
Or you do understand thatsometimes your body is just so

(26:59):
dang resilient and if you knowyour body well enough, sometimes
you can just mindset, pushthrough it.
Oh, totally.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Totally, and I don't remember being in pain doing it.
I just remember, you know,postpartum, new baby, yeah, and
personally, though, my this is awhole not that we won't go off
on this tangent, but I will saymy regular delivery with Aniston
was far worse than my C-sectionDelivery with Aniston was far
worse than my.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
C-section Fascinating , yeah.
So I was okay.
Yeah, I mean I'm recollectingon and my recovery was good,
like nothing was bad about it,it was normal, but it was
flipping painful.
Yeah, oh yeah, it's painful.
Both ways are very painful.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh yeah, it's painful .
Both ways are very painful.
Oh my gosh, and yet we do itagain.
Well, I did it again.
I swear I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, I'm one and done.
I'm pretty confident.
I'm one and done, like we'vegot the three, we're good to go.
Got the boys, got the girl, gotthe puppies, you're good, we're
golden.
I feel, I feel the joy, oh,good, good.

(28:17):
But yeah, to your point, it'slike it, it's recovery
nonetheless.
And um, doing that while alsoworking in and on a business is
it's, it's incredible, yeah, thestuff we as women go through is
incredible.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It really is.
Hey guys, if you're listening,we love you dearly.
We understand you got your ownstuff to work through and handle
as men physically, but nothinglike pushing out a bowling ball,
oh my gosh preach.
Or carrying it or carrying itthe carrying the nine months

(28:52):
yeah, and then carrying itafterwards too, and motherhood,
I mean, if we're gonna throw allour towels in.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I mean motherhood too .

Speaker 1 (28:59):
No joke, not that fatherhood is easy no, it's not
it just comes with its own bag,right, yeah, but we're talking
about motherhood andentrepreneurship.
So, we'll just keep on that path.
We'll keep on the challengesthat we do experience.
So thank you for shining lighton some of the ebbs and flows

(29:22):
and the peaks and valleys,because I think it was really
important for the listeners tounderstand.
And while you have built thisincredible business and you did
it in such a short period oftime to the dollar amount that
it is and has continued to be so, that was back in 2016, 2015,

(29:43):
2016 that you started and we'renow in 2025.
And you have you've alluded acouple of times just in terms of
that creativity that you haveand I think it.
I think it was something alongthe lines of, like, your husband
has been your biggestcheerleader and is along for the
ride and all the crazy ideasthat you have.

(30:05):
So when we spoke, you talked tome about one of those I'm air
quoting for the listeners rightnow crazy ideas.
Let's go into depth on that.
So one, one question Are youofficially doing that?

(30:26):
Oh, yeah, and so now you'redoing two businesses at the same
time.
All right, so let's share withthe listeners what this new
business is.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, so the new business is called Mindset
Energy Evolution, and I createdthe M M-E-E method for it, and
what it is is I have onlinecourses that teach you
everything I know Well, noteverything now, because I learn
every day, right, yeah, but anonline course in manifestation

(30:59):
and how to change your life.
My biggest platform for this ison TikTok.
All of my stuff is posted onall three platforms, but I'm
most present on TikTokFascinating, yes, and I post
constantly, and I'm alwaysposting, like this morning, I
think my post was do these threethings to manifest peace of

(31:21):
mind.
So it you know, so it's alwaystips on how to, like, improve
your life, and the messages I'vebeen getting from people that
I'm helping is more than anyamount of money could like.
It's incredible.
It's so incredible, yes, and Ijust have to touch on this.
So there's so much I could say,but the one thing the reason I

(31:42):
did this is becausemanifestation changed my life,
okay, um, for the better, andthis was I'm talking way back in
08, when I started doing this,and so I took everything that
I've learned and I compiled itinto one easy to learn
beginner's course, sure, andthen I'm also on this platform
constantly and giving advice andtidbits, and and I I gotta say

(32:05):
last night was a tough night, um, it's tryout season and it's
always stressful, and mydaughter and I had a tough night
at the gym, um, and so it wasjust kind of one of those.
Oh, I know I'm not in alignment,right now I gotta like find my
um and I got home and I was liketrying to like piece myself
together and like find my innerself and like get in alignment,

(32:27):
get my positive self back.
And I opened my DMs on TikTokand there is a follower who
messaged me and he wascommenting on a video that I had
done a long time ago, and by along time ago I mean like two
months, because this is threemonths old.
Yeah, and he, he just said youknow, I can't wait until my wife
and I are sitting with 5,000other people watching you tell

(32:51):
your story and your inspirationson stage someday.
I got goosebumps again and I'mlike my jaw just dropped,
because I'm like, when acomplete stranger has the same
sort of faith in me as I dobecause I will do that, yes, but
for him, like just just, I wasso blown away that I have had

(33:14):
that much effect on a person tohave that much belief and that
someday they'll see me on stagespeaking, it was just like, wow,
and that is exactly what I'mmanifesting for myself.
It's's, it's crazy, that is so.
That's something that's newsince, cause obviously it just
happened last night.
But these are the stories I'mhearing from people, or the
messages I'm getting, like Iwish you know.

(33:35):
One gal said I wish I couldjust carry you around in my
pocket all day so that you couldbe there when I need advice.
And it's like me, like who, wholook, look at it who are you
looking over my shoulder?
Who are you talking to?
But I am like making theseimpactful changes with people on
the knowledge that I'vecompiled by great leaders, um,
and just kind of dumbing it down, because it can be a little bit

(33:55):
, and that was a really mean wayto say it, but I dumbed it down
for myself and then put it inan easy to understand for others
too, because it can be reallylike oh, there's a lot of
quantum physics and science tothis too, um, and so yeah, just
like doing this has been soincredible.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
So so you have been doing a lot of this call it
manifestation since 2008.
2008.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
2008.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I know exactly when?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yes, let's go there.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So, funny enough, the Secret.
Have you heard of the Secret?
It came out in 06, which blewmy mind when I looked it up
because I could have swore likeright when it came out is.
But it must have taken a whileto get some momentum because I
feel like right when it blew upis when I found it with a
girlfriend from college and welike lived and breathed the
Secret.
We were like, oh my gosh, andwe were like manifesting front

(34:46):
row parking spots, which at theCollege of Nursing parking was
insane, and we were like, oh,got a front row today, like the
little manifestations are likegot a free coffee, Like just the
little things, and her and Iwere like really big into it and
I took it really seriously.
I never quit and it just keptgoing.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And I've been studying it and practicing it
now for since then and I gotmomentum.
It's created, oh, yes, well andthat's what came.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
That's why my life is the way it is now.
That's why I live thisincredible life that it almost
feels like I'm braggingsometimes, and I'm not meaning
to sound arrogant about it, butI'm here just to like spread the
word that you can and you cancome from nothing and live your
dream life, and it no.

(35:36):
There's nobody has a limitsaying you can't do this.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Let's let's talk about the, the energy of all of
that, because I feel likethere's a lot, like it really
does have a lot to do withenergy.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
It's everything, literally, energy is everything.
And that's one thing aboutmanifestation that took me a
while to understand, because fora while I was like if I just
think it and wish for it, if Ithink it and I wish for it, that
is so, that helps your energy,because then you're in a
positive mindset but you can'tjust sit on your couch and wish

(36:15):
for a million dollars.
It's just not going to happenthat way.
Like the secret and the secretis like a very beginner's course
on, and so they kind of impliedthat you just visualize and
it'll come.
Well, there's a lot more to it.
But, if you realize, yourthoughts create your emotions.
So whatever you're thinkingabout is how you're feeling.

(36:36):
Your feeling is the energy thatyou're putting into the
universe, and so your thoughtsare a lot because they're
creating that energy, and theenergy is what the law of
attraction brings back to you.
So what you're putting out iscoming back.
So your world, when you look atit, is a reflection of what you
have manifested.

(36:56):
Oh, it's exact, seriously Likewhatever you're seeing in your
life.
Even I hate to say it, but theproblems.
And the really tough one ispeople with cancer or disease,
and it's like I didn't do this,you didn't do it intentionally,
right?
What I've learned along the way?
And we don't need to go toodeep on this because I feel like

(37:18):
it is very sensitive butsomewhere along the way
something could have or didhappen where they opened this,
something about themselves, thatopened an energy within them
that said that they wouldtolerate that, whether they did
it intentionally, whether it'sgenerational because we do come

(37:41):
with generational energy as well, from our ancestors but
somewhere in their lifesomething opened that said they
would tolerate it, they wouldhandle it, they would accept it,
they feared it.
Fear is a big one, a big one.
They feared it so much thatthey brought it into reality.

(38:03):
And so it's hard when it comesto the icky stuff like that.
Like what do you mean?
I, I manifested being raped,like those kinds of things are
so dark you know, oh my gosh, Ican't even imagine.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And so I dove deep in like finding out why?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
and there's a lot to that, but that's a whole that's
another, that's a whole otherconversation.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
That's an off air conversation.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, but we can stay on the positive track and like,
looking at you, literally yourworld you see it completely
differently than I do becauseyou're seeing it reflect back to
you.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
So fascinating and, by the way, I do just want to go
back to um what you brought upwith how people manifest things
like diseases and circumstancesright.
Because we can kind of just putthem into their segments, right

(39:00):
Into their silos.
I think it was a few years ago.
I did come across something toyour point exactly about like
disease specifically, and thathow it does actually to your
point, it is manifested, it isyour thoughts, it is the fear,
and so I I'm like, oh, I feel alittle validated in in like

(39:25):
having thought like, oh my gosh,like if something like that
were to happen to me, it has alot to do with, you know,
moments in time where I may havethought a specific way, or you
made this comment of likeopening up a specific door to
that kind of energy specificdoor to that kind of energy.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
It could have been something as small, as somebody
said something to you on theplayground and it resonated deep
within you.
Maybe that same bully said thesame thing to another kid, but
that kid was like whatever andwent on to play.
But you and I'm just using youas an example you took it so
personally and I don't even knowwhat kind of an example to use
that would resonate that deep,but you carried that with you,
which then attracted more ofthat to you.

(40:10):
So it's not intentional.
Nobody's punishing you.
Nobody's saying oh well, youdeserve cancer now because you
let that resonate.
That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, there's a book and this is like the second or
third time that it's come up andso, because it's it's been
months and months and months, II always forget.
I think it's something like thebody keeps count or the body
keeps score, and so I feel likethere's a lot of parallels there
with, like, if you have aspecific circumstance like that

(40:43):
happen right, like your body isholding, specific circumstance,
like that happen right, likeyour body is holding the cell is
holding on to that kind ofenergy, does that make sense?
Like I feel like I need to goand read that book now, because
it's come up enough times whereI'm like I need to just read
that book.
But you know, for instance, ifyou're carrying more weight than

(41:04):
you want to, Well, the body iskeeping count and keeping score
of, like some things that havehappened right, and so stress
and the cells holding onto thatstress, which holds onto the
weight, which keeps that weighton, and that's tough right.
But like reducing some of thatstress also, I'm sure, is stuff

(41:27):
that you talk about.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Oh yeah, and that's your biggest.
I mean it's calledmicro-shifting your energy, and
you do it in baby steps, cause Ialways say you can't go from
piss to bliss, you have to workyour way up that.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I love that.
It's so true, though you justcan't.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Abraham Hicks has a chart of vibrations.
And so it starts at the lowestvibration from negativity and
you work your way up and youcannot.
You physically, mentally, whereit would actually cause.
You have to believe it.
I mean, you can think it allyou want, but if you don't
believe it, that's the energyyou're putting out, Right?
So if you're in despair anddepression, you're not going to
like change your mindset and goto euphoric, Right?

(42:04):
No, and so it's calledmicro-shifting your energy and
you do little things to changeyour energy and you celebrate
those little, whether it'sgetting out of bed and making
your bed today, opening up africking window.
Celebrate that like you won thelottery because we giggle about
that.
But there are people who can'teven get out of bed today to do
that, you know what I'm sayingand so they're not going to have

(42:25):
and they're not even going tocare about what you're saying
about energy.
But if you can get them to dothese baby steps, that's how we
start to change it.
And when you're talking aboutdisease, dis-ease within us a
lot of it, to not only fear, butit's a mentality, because in
our culture we're like oh, itruns in my family.

(42:45):
It runs in my family, my mom hadit, so I'll probably get it.
Well, guess what you're goingto get?
You literally just spoke thosewords out yes, and then not only
do you expect it, but you speakit, you fear it and you're
expecting it.
So guess what's going to showup, fascinating, right, it's of
my world, this world ofmanifestation.

(43:06):
I was listening to nevillegoddard on the way over here
he's a little hard to listen tobecause he's from like the 1930s
.
Okay, genius um.
He actually interviewed, like umcarnegie, whose story is
fascinating thomas edison,abraham lincoln, like all these
people and like quotes that likeone, thomas edison, he said, um

(43:31):
, he had 10 000 light bulbsbefore the one worked, and henry
ford was another one.
And he said I didn't fail 10000 times, I just found 10 000
ways that didn't work.
Yeah, and like their mindsetit's all about mindset of these
three that I just four that Ijust named, and their mindset
truly proves what got them there.
I mean, people thought HenryFord was insane to build an

(43:54):
affordable vehicle for familiesWild.
It's so yeah, how long do we?
Have Cause.
I could go on.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Well, we're only 45, about 45 minutes in, and so
we've about 45 minutes in, andso we still have some nice
runway which is nice.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I need to hide this.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I could go on with all of this fascinating and the
stuff that I have found in myworld.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I call it my world because a lot of people do refer
to the manifestation world asthe woo-woo world, or people
think it's witchcraft, or peoplethink it's anti-Christian,
which is absolutely so far fromthe truth.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I want to go down this way this entire time, and
for some of the individuals whoI've had on the podcast and
perhaps you've listened to someof the episodes too on the
podcast, and perhaps you'velistened to some of the episodes
too like there is a lot offaith, christianity, like that
there's a lot of tie in there,cause that's like that's my, my
guiding principle, right?

(44:55):
But I also know that likethere's a lot of tie-ins with
all of this and so I'm going allright, there are miracles that
happen every single day, everysingle day, and so if you're

(45:16):
listening and you're like you'rea Christian, you follow Jesus,
like just know that that has alot to do with energy.
You get a bunch of people in acongregation who are energy,
wise, thinking positively aboutsomething.

(45:37):
It's energy.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I love that you just said that.
As a Christian, I love that youjust said that I will say God
pours into that energy.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
That's where you can make this tie and go.
We can all fit and work in thisspace.
We can.
We really can.
So view it from that point.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Are you sure we want to go down this road?
I do yes.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And I promise you listeners, we are going to talk
more in the motherhood space andtying all of this in.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Oh, this will help with motherhood too.
This has changed my.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
what I'm about to talk about changed my life, and
specifically Margie, if you needto move the pillow, it's okay.
I just moved it and now it'sperfect.
Now you're comfy.
I just moved it and now it'sperfect.
Now you're comfy, okay.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I just felt like rearranging my life.
What I'm about to share withyou literally changed my life,
and it wasn't long ago.
And I can still rememberchapter two of Wishes Fulfilled
Wayne Dyer.
That chapter changed my lifeand that's when he explained God
to me in a way I have never,and ever since then.
Things just make so much senseto me.
Now I'm going to preface thiswith I was born and raised

(46:52):
Christian.
Okay, I would not considermyself Christian anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
However, I believe so much of the Christianity, some
of that, a lot of it NevilleGardner was just quoting some of
that you wouldn't believe I'mgetting off on a tangent the
amount of verses that, when youbreak them down, are speaking
exactly what we are talkingabout with manifestation exactly
.
I wish I would have wrote theone down on the way here.

(47:20):
It was Luke, something orthings that Jesus said be still
and know that I am god.
He was saying to us, our god.
So god is not some big,powerful man in the sky outside
of us that wants to like crucifyus if we do something.

(47:41):
He doesn't want to condemn usto hell he's.
We shouldn't be scared.
You know like some of thethings in the bible make you
scared that God is like going tosmite you.
You know like.
So what I've learned is ourgods are all within us.
And Jesus said be still andknow that I am God.
I am is such a powerful becauseyour God is your inner self,

(48:03):
your God is your inner self andyour inner being came to into
your human form and only wantswhat's best for you, which is
exactly what they tell us Godwants for us.
There you go.
It makes so much sense, theBible, and so many of the verses

(48:31):
it.
Jesus was telling us the samething that Abraham Hicks is
telling us that, um, you knowall of these Neville Goddard,
wayne Dyer, bashar, all of thesepeople who are like so big in
this manifestation world thatthey're like the gurus, if you
will.
Jesus was the same.
He was saying that and he wouldsay to them go forth and tell
no one, because people wouldthink they were crazy and they

(48:53):
would hang them and then look atwhat happened to him because
they thought he was crazy.
But really he was just tellingus.
Like, everything in the Biblespeaks to going within, to
create the without, first withinand then without.
It is so eye-opening because,again, I was born and raised
Christian, I'm confirmed, I hadmy communion, all these things.

(49:15):
But then I think about it andI'm like and I'm gonna probably
make a lot of Christians mad,and I mean no offense by this,
but I look at it and the Biblewas written over thousands of
years, 40 different authors,different languages.
It's been translated so manyways.
There are people who changedthings to make us to put the, to

(49:39):
instill the fear, because theydon't want us to realize the
power that we have within.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Interesting, yeah, yeah, as somebody who is and not
that I can be pushed off of mylike faith pedestal, right, but
as somebody who is, literallywithin the past year, taking
this deep dive into my faith andwhat that looks like and and

(50:04):
God as being the center of it,right, there's so much that I'm
learning, right, like I do.
I do firmly think one thisspace, the podcast, as a
platform right, I want to beable to meld this together and
not have it be truly just likeI'm only interviewing Christian

(50:27):
people, right, or I'm onlyinterviewing people who are
looking to manifest and that'ssort of their guiding principle,
right, like I do think thatthere is a way for us to be able
to, just as we are right now,right To be able to sit down and
have a conversation, to be ableto sit down and have a
conversation.
There's a way that we can meldstuff together.

(50:50):
Is what I'm trying to say, butI also understand that I have so
much to learn when it comes tofaith and what you're speaking
to with the Bible, right?
That's one specific area whereI'm like God dang it.
The Bible is just so wild andso crazy and so cool at the same
time.
And all these verses are justcrazy.

(51:13):
Like my, my um vision board, Idecided this year like I'm going
to do a ton of verses that justspeak to like this is my
manifestation, right, these arethe specific verses in areas
that I want to grow in that Iknow are going to like I look at
those every day and I'm likethat shit's happening.

(51:37):
Yes, pardon my French, oh gosh,but like you know, that's
happening, yes, it's happening.
So my, my whole point in thisis like I have a lot to learn
and I'm going to continue tolearn, and I think that that's
really important.
As a mother, yes, and as abusiness owner, yes Is to be
able to do that.
But you have to show up inconversations like this and not

(52:00):
be a complete a-hole and go myway or the highway there has to
be open-mindedness.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
And you know what?
You and I believe the samething in a different way, in a
different way and that's okay.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
You know what I?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
mean you believe in Jesus, I believe in Jesus, I
believe in God.
You believe in God, you're aChristian.
I'm not.
You know what I'm saying.
We just believe it in adifferent way, and that's okay,
because it still means the samething.
Yeah, it really does.
And if you, I'm going to sendyou some stuff now, but if you
dig deep in some of these versesyou're like oh my gosh, that

(52:36):
makes so much sense.
There is so much truth to theBible, but there's also so much
truth to Buddhism.
There's also so much truth toall these religions, but it's
all really boiling down to onething, and that there is a
higher power and it's within us.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I love it.
It's crazy, right, it really is.
It's wild and I love that weare able to.
Again, I have to emphasize thisbecause it's so cool, like I'm
just having this cool crazymoment happening in my head
where I'm like I love that wecan level set with each other

(53:13):
and still go.
Yeah, I agree on the biggerconcept here, which is, like our
God wants us to, to what's thebest wants the best for us to
move forward.
Yes, love, I think, is justtruly one of the most reigning
themes through all of this right, like love is the theme, the

(53:34):
main theme love thyself yes,love thy neighbor, love love god
, love like love love, love,love, love and oh my goodness.
Okay, so we I feel like wecould go down so many different
avenues, but I want to.
I want to bring it back.
So back in in 2008 is when allof this really started for you

(53:58):
and you were giving some reallycool examples of like you and
your friend who were alreadydoing this, and it was based off
of the secret.
So let's pick up there and sortof move through to where we're
at now.
I know we have a lot of likeyears to cover but if you could,
give sort of the bullet pointsleading up to that, or the
breadcrumbs.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, I think I'll never forget my first like
biggest manifestation.
Well, I can't, because it's myhusband.
So it's so funny, because Iremember and I don't know if I
told you this story or not Ithink I did when we first talked
.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
maybe refresh my memory.
We talked about a lot of stuff,so this was back in the day
when we still had Walkman.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Oh, my gosh.
Side note for moms we asked our11 year old daughter the other
day what's a Walkman or aDiscman?
And she said, um, I think it'sthose little neon guys people
put in the street for slow andcaution when kids are playing.
Oh, my word yep, that's whatshe said.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
My word yeah, hi if you're listening, welcome to the
podcast where we talk aboutlike I'm, I'm there, I I think
you might be just a few yearsolder than me.
Maybe I'll be 43 in july.
Okay, you're only a few yearsolder, because I'll be turning
40 this year, and so walkman,discman, all like, yes, boom

(55:17):
boxes bring it cassette tapesyeah yep, yes, all the 90s
things.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
And yeah, that's what she thought a discman or a
welcoming was.
So that was hilarious.
So I was listening to thesecret on cd via my disc man in
college and, um, I lived in atrailer with some girls.
It was a nice trailer, it was adouble eye nice nice and one of
the girls owned it, so it wasnice.
But anyways, we lived about amile from like one of the rich

(55:45):
neighborhoods in our town and Iwould take my little dog and we
would walk to that neighborhoodand I remember walking around
that neighborhood, seeing thesehouses, and I still remember
this one specific house.
It was different colors forback then especially it was like
mustard and burgundy, but itlooked really cool and it was
like this mansion.
But then there was this and Isaw that house and I was like,

(56:08):
oh my gosh, someday, like I'mgoing to live in a really I'm
going to live in quote unquote arich neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Um cause?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I never did.
I haven't said this yet, but Iliterally came from nothing,
came from poverty, and so thatwas always like I knew, from the
moment I was like old enough toknow I'd be a mom someday, that
I would be a mom who, who livedin the nice neighborhood with
my kid and provided for my kids.
Okay, that's a whole otherthing.
Anyways, I'm walking and I,like, am picturing my house, and

(56:33):
back in this time this was 2008and sage green wasn't like a
house color thing.
It is now, but it wasn't then.
Fast forward six months and Iwas just getting out of an awful
relationship and I was healing,and now I had all the contrast
of what, the what I didn't wantin a relationship, and so now I

(56:54):
knew exactly what I did want.
And so now fast forward andthat's like springtime and now
it's graduation time in 08.
I graduated in December of 08from my second time in college
and started talking to my nowhusband, who I've known since
seventh grade.
We've known each other since wewere 12.
Oh my gosh, and actually I, Iwas so in love with him in

(57:16):
middle school and he wantednothing to do with any girls.
Thank God it wasn't just me.
It was like no girl, he had nointerest.
And then in high school he wasinterested in me and I was like
boy, you had your chance.
Yeah, and we actually went tohomecoming together um our
sophomore year of high school.
Um, because my out of townboyfriend had a football game.
So Jared took me and I ditchedhim because my out of town
boyfriend ended up showing up.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Margie, yeah, I did, I was just about to say how
endearing is this uh storyline,this plot line?
Nope, nope.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Tricked ya Plot plot twist so I ditched him.
Anyways, fast forward again.
Now we're both graduated fromcollege.
He's like four years out ofcollege because he only went
once and um, we start talkingand he's still back in South
Dakota.
I'm living in May at RochesterMayo, because that's where I got
my first nursing job.
And we're talking and I decideI want to set him up with one of
my nursing friends who stilllives back home.

(58:05):
So it's about a month betweenwhere they can make their date
work.
In that meantime of that month,him and I keep talking and by
the time the date's comingaround he's like should I be
going on this date?
And I'm like, well, you kind ofhave to Like yes go see and
like praying that it didn't workout.
Well, it didn't work out,obviously.

(58:26):
So he comes to see me.
The rest is history.
However, my point to this was Igo to visit him for the first
time.
All that to say, I go to visithim for the first time and he
has spent two years building ahome with his own hands, after
work every night, full-time jobas an engineer, from the ground
up, by himself building a home.

(58:47):
So when I first saw it, therewas still no kitchen sink.
There was a full workingbathroom, so it was livable.
It had floors and carpet andwalls, but it wasn't all the way
done.
It wasn't done.
But I pull up to visit him andit's a sage green house like the
exact color I knew my firsthome would be fast forward.

(59:09):
And not only is he the manexactly who I needed not only
wanted but needed in my life,but I moved into that.
That was our first house.
That was the first, my firstlike real home that I wasn't a
rental oh my word it was down tothe exact color.
So those were my biggest firstmanifestations and I don't know

(59:29):
if that was like pertinent tothe story, but just, you have to
also like be very in theawareness mindset of like all
those little things, becausethose little things that you
remember keep manifesting tobigger things.
Yes, and that was my startingpoint of my dream life, right
there.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Oh, my word, yeah.
And you now have been marriedfor how many years?
I know you have two kiddos.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yes, we got married in.
That was, we got married in 11.
So we just celebrated inFebruary our 14th wedding
anniversary.
So together for 16.
Yes, um, and literally, like wejoke all the time.
We're kind of disgusting likepeople are, like you know what I
like because we're so in lovestill and it's like it gets

(01:00:16):
better and better like we stilltext each other like flirty
stuff.
I mean it's like I and I knowfrom having girlfriends and in
motherhood you get tired andexhausted and, trust me, we went
through that phase when ourkids were little.
It was like we were roommatesand we were just trying to
survive.
I get it, I see you, I hear you, I feel you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
You're speaking to me .
And I love my husband and we dohave these really incredible
moments, and I mean we worktogether too, so it's like we
have to have impeccablecommunication, right you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
preach you just nailed it.
Like injecting some of the funinto it as well, because we
understand that that's soimportant Communication is what
saves any marriage and then yourmindset about it, because it's
never been an option for us tonot be together.
You know what I mean.
That's just not an option.
That would never happen.
Our faith in each other, ourtrust in each other, our love is

(01:01:13):
so strong and it just keepsgetting better and I wish that
everyone I know not everyone hasa marriage like that, and it
makes me sad it does.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I know, because it can be.
I was just literally thinkingabout people.
I'm going to just broad strokethis like couples, where you
talk about that, the mindsetright, like you can take this
mindset of like I got my balland chain and I've got to, I got

(01:01:43):
to go talk to the woman aboutthis decision, you know, and
that's a mindset that you'redeciding to take instead of
going no, this is my partner and, out of respect, I'm going to
have a conversation becauseperhaps, in making this decision
or like following through onthis request, it is crossing a

(01:02:04):
line, it's crossing a boundary,it's putting me into a place
where I'm not going to make thebest decisions and that's not
respecting the person who Ichose to spend the rest of my
life with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yes, and not everybody thinks that way,
unfortunately, I know.
And what people don't realizeis if you're constantly like oh
well, I didn't.
You got one of the good ones.
I hear that all the time.
Well, at least you got one ofthe good ones.
I'm thankful that I did get oneof the good ones, but you could
have a good one too.
You are choosing, but you'rechoosing to see his flaws and I
always say, what if just humorme?

(01:02:35):
And what if you look at himtoday and only see good things
about him?

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Margie, remember when , only a few few minutes ago, we
talked about, like how ourleading indicators or sorry, our
guiding principles, is how Iwant to phrase this Whether it
be Christianity universe, woo,woo, the woo, woo stuff like

(01:03:02):
love, is at the very.
That's your umbrella, yes, andso, if you take that into
context of what we're talkingabout right now, and just look
through this lens of love, yourlife changes.
Every single person was builtfor this life with specific
qualities, right Like goodqualities.

(01:03:24):
Every single person right Likegood qualities Every single
person right, whether they areactually a very malevolent
person or not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Like there are still good qualities in those people
and if that's what you choose tofocus on, that's what you will
see and manifest for yourself,and manifest for yourself.
And the other thing is not onlyseeing the love, like the good
things about your partner.
You got to love yourself first,because if you don't love
yourself, how are you expectinganybody else to love you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Oh, it's so like you're touching on a very, very
critical topic that I think likelet's dive into this right.
I know that I was like hey,margie, I want you to really
give the the timeline and thebreadcrumbs leading up to where
you're at now, but we'll getthere I promise listeners we'll
get there.
Okay so, um, self-love, right,like as a mom, as a business

(01:04:17):
owner, like let's talk throughthis, yeah, especially with what
you're doing now.
Okay so, let's just share withthe listeners, like what it is
that you're doing now.
Yeah, so you talked about that,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
So online courses, um so mindset evolution or sorry,
mindset energy evolutioncomthere are.
There's a free course there,there's a free manifestation
guide there, and there's also abeginner's course there, and
there's about to be many morecourses that I'm going to launch
so you can.
So you can just do the free oneand see if it's something that
speaks to you.
First, I'd recommend doing thatand then the beginners course

(01:04:50):
is incredible.
It takes you through how to getinto this mindset.
It takes you through how tocome out of your slumps, because
we're so human, so you're stillgoing to have contrast every
day, and it teaches you how todeal with that contrast.
It teaches you that contrast isactually good, because when you
know what you don't want, youknow what you do want, right,
and so we need contrast in orderto figure out what we do want.

(01:05:12):
Um, it takes you through how touh, you know, shine your lens of
love on everything, or how tochange your thoughts, like if
you find yourself in a negativesituation and you know that's
going to bring you out into, outof your alignment.
Then it teaches you how tobring yourself right back in,
and I mean these are things I'mteaching my littles.

(01:05:32):
I mean, they're 11 and 8 andthey know all about keeping
their valve open and like allthese, like little things that I
teach them in their language sothat they can understand that
you know their, their lens oflove, or you know you, a big
thing is like my daughter, she's11, so, um, the drama right now

(01:05:52):
.
Or, like you know the girls,she doesn't like me or she
talked bad about me.
You know what, honey, peopleare always going to talk about
you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
But we'll always talk about.
Girls are vicious.
There's no mean our oldest, myoldest bonus boy, is in fourth
grade and I like I mean, he's aboy, right, so like he is, you
can just.
He literally will listen tosome of these girls and you're
like I don't know, I don't care,but because he's a dancer and

(01:06:20):
so it's like he's in a oh fun,yeah, he is top notch, he's so
good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I love the.
Yeah, he is top notch.
He's so good dancers, yeah, yes.
Well, there's not a lot of them, there's not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
We have a lot of boy not a lot, very few at our gym
too, for all-star cheer, andthey're amazing, yes anyway,
yeah, anyways, you know, likejust to this point of what
you're speaking to with yourdaughter, and there's the phases
that we as as women, go throughand like starting off as girls.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yes, the evolution is just wild and the hardest thing
about being a girl mom is I'vebeen there and I know what's
coming for middle school nextyear and I just there's so many
things that I would say tomiddle school Margie that I'm
trying to say to Aniston,because she is little Margie and
it's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I love that name, thank you so cute.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yes, she insists on being called annie, though, so
we're like the only ones thatcall her aniston okay, she'll.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
She'll get to a point where she'll want aniston.
Yeah, because it's such apretty name but anyways, she.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
She is me, which is terrifying.
And my poor husband.
He always says I signed up forone of you.
How did I get two?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
that is going to be my husband like literally he can
see him he can see it comingout.
She is a spitting image of him,but personality wise, I think
we I feel like we talked aboutthis.
Okay, that's the same anistonlooks just like her daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
But good thing he knows how to deal with me.
He's the calm to my storm andsee it.
So he knows exactly how to dealwith her.
So he's, he's fine.
Me, on the other hand, I knowexactly what she's gonna be like
and I'm trying in my head.
I'm like, okay, what would Isay to middle school margie?
That might have made adifference, but good perspective
.
Yes, but I grew up sodifferently than she is that my

(01:08:01):
issues were so much different,but I still had the girl drama.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I still had you know that, not I still had.
You know what.
That does not, that's areigning theme Straight across
the board.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yes, no matter where you come from, it's girl drama
and so, yeah, I'm trying toteach my kids about that.
I don't know how we got off onthis tangent or where we were
going with this, but girls aremean, boys are much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh, we were talking about the things that we
manifest right and we're.
We were talking about it fromthe viewpoint of, like what you
are doing in business now andhow, even like even some of the
foundational pieces that youhave out there right now that
people can.
You are, you're speaking thatinto your children?

(01:08:42):
Yes, trying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, because first of all, you have to and this is
really important for moms,especially of littles, you have
to remember.
So we're all born with purepositive energy we aren't born
with.
It's funny because just thismorning I was listening to
Abraham Hicks and she saidthat's why babies are born
crying.
They opened up into a wholesoup of of negative energy and

(01:09:05):
they don't know what that is yet.
They're just trying to combatit with their cries.
What is this feeling?
Yeah, and so we're not bornwith self-destruction, we're not
born with self-consciousbecause, like when you're a baby
, you, if you want it, you askfor it If you and you expect it
and you demand it, and you, youknow what I mean.
And then we're taught.
We are so conditioned with allof these standards and what we

(01:09:30):
have to remember is the youngerwe are, the more pure we still
are.
So our kids are still way morepure, positive form than we are,
because we've been conditionedso many more years than they
have.
And so trying to hinder thatconditioning as much as possible
, like letting them know, likelisten, the power is within you,
it's your mind that createsyour reality, yeah, um, is

(01:09:52):
really hard because you alsohave to speak to them in their
language, which is hard for usbecause we're so conditioned.
So it's so important to talk toyour kids about their minds and
how they can use them to shapetheir reality.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
So good Because, um, what?
What I keep thinking about,margie, is, um, you're cutting
through the bullshit.
You're literally cuttingthrough all of the noise that's
around us and I am, if you seeme, kind of like staring off.

(01:10:27):
I'm literally thinking through,like how, cutting through the
noise while also implementingwhat I love, which is my faith?
Yeah, like melding again, likeI'm just going how, how am I
going to?
I'm going to take this course.
I'm sorry listeners I have notdone that.

(01:10:50):
That's an oopsies on my end, butbut I'm going to and like I,
we're going to talk through thisoff air about this melding of
it which I think is so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
But I struggled.
I struggled Like I don't wantto struggle, for lack of better
word, because I see your, yourwheels turning, because you're
Christian and you're like.
It was really hard for me tothe first time say out loud I
don't think I can identify as aChristian anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really hard, I'm
sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Because that is what I was raised and told to believe
, yeah, and so of course thatwas a really strong, and I'm not
against Christianity at all.
I just believe differently thanwhat I was raised to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Now, and that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Yeah, but I want you to know like yeah, it's normal
to like kind of struggle withthis in your head Like, no, my
faith is very important,absolutely.
Faith is like top notch.
Keep your faith, don't everstray away from your faith.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
However, I do think that to your've, you've brought
up some really fascinatingpoints about like there are so
many different Bible verses thatare literally alluding to this,
and so it's, it's going.
We're cutting through the chain, like through all of that.
We're cutting through thenonsense, all of that, the talk
and the noise and themisconceptions and just getting

(01:12:13):
to the point, and the point islike lead with love and like use
your brain to its most powerfulcapacity and capability, which
we still don't even know thestrength of it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Like people are discovering it more and more how
powerful our minds are.
But yeah, your, your mind isliterally shaping your reality,
Literally.
It's proven that to me time andtime again, whether good or bad
, whether good or bad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Okay, you have two businesses operating now, and so
let's let's share more andinform the listeners more about
how you're doing that.
I am curious too.
I literally just like I'm like,okay, we're going to set this
question on the back burner andI feel like now is an opportune
moment to bring that back frontand center.

(01:13:02):
I want to talk through howyou're harmonizing that with the
family dynamic too.
It sounds like 11 and 8.
Like I'm right there with you.
Such fun ages.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
I'm right there with you.
And then I've got thetwo-year-old too.
It's so fun.
Yeah, you're so busy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
It's so fun, so busy.
I'm also like we're gettingreally integrated into all the
activities too, so I know ohgirl yes, into all the
activities too.
So I know.
So I want to talk through howyou're harmonizing that.
But then I heard you loud andclear that very early on for
your photography business, youset the boundaries Yep.

(01:13:39):
What does that look like nowfor you too?
And you're operating twobusinesses?
Yep, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
So the one business the new one is is online.
Okay, um, and a lot of theexposure that I'm trying to get
and and how I'm growing it issocial media.
So I do set one day a weekaside, and I will, so you'll see
me in all kinds of differentoutfits in different areas, not
knowing that I've probablyfilmed all of those on the same

(01:14:07):
day.
I used to do this in mortgage.
I used to do this Like I wouldcarve out a couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
I'd have a videographer, I'd have my change
of clothes.
Yep, yeah, I'll bring 12 shirtsto the studio.
It's a trick, it's a cheat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Yes, it's a cheat thing but it gets me through.
Like, cause I have to post somany times a day, you know um to
in order to grow, and when Isay have to, I want to.
I love doing this.
So that was online, so I have.
You know, nobody is telling melike I have to have an
appointment with you at thistime on that business.
I just know what days I can setaside to film and edit.
And then with my business, itis so developed now that my

(01:14:47):
clients just know, or even newpeople, and I'm blessed too
because, let's be honest,newborn moms and dads have time
off work.
Yeah, but most of them arenewborn, well, maternity through
first year.
So as they become six monthsold or three months old, and
nine months old and 12 monthsold, they're taking the day off
work to come in during my time.
They just know, and it's neverI don't waver from that I, my

(01:15:10):
kids, will never know what it'slike for me to miss a sporting
event unless.
I you know we we have to doubletake, take, team something.
So sometimes Benton will have awrestling tournament and I'll
be in Chicago with Anniston forcheer, you know.
So yes, we under.
They understand that part.
But it will never be like, oh,mom's working this weekend.
Not that that's's a bad thing,but for me that was not

(01:15:32):
something I was willing tosacrifice.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Yeah, it is definitely a cornerstone for us
with how we operate the business.
Now here's the tricky part isfor us, my husband is the lead
agent, which means that he'sdoing, and I'm the CEO of the
house while also managing thework business aspect of it, and

(01:15:57):
so I'm primarily the one who'shere doing all of that stuff and
I love it literally.
Like this is the reason I cutthe cord with mortgage is
because we needed to have moreflex.
But we also went we, we need tobe present for them, right and?

(01:16:18):
And not just like, hey, I'vegot the flexibility with
mortgage, um, I'm present, likeI was not present.
I may have been there, butphysically, but mentally, I was
not there exactly.
I also understand now, in ushaving this conversation, a lot
of it was my mindset.

(01:16:38):
Yeah, I just ended up gettinginto this mindset where I was
like this is too much of a toxicenvironment for me, I can't do
this anymore, and so, like thatwas a kind, a kind of a poo poo.
Shame on me as well, as I'mreflecting back on that, but
that's okay.
Sure, it's okay, I am.
I'm loving where everything isat now.
Good, truly, truly, yeah, so,but that to to round it back out

(01:17:01):
.
Thanks for letting me just godown a little bit of that hole
for a second Um that theimportance of wanting to be
present for those activities foryour child to be, to continue
to build those core, corememories, yes, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
So priceless.
And I just want to say to anymom who's like well, yeah, you
had the option you have, youhave a husband who had a career
where you could leave your job,or you had this or this or this.
Change your mindset, becauselet me tell you something
nothing is impossible.
Nothing is impossible.
And if you are in a job rightnow that you don't like, you're
not stuck, you're just repeating.

(01:17:38):
You're repeating what you'retelling yourself over and over
oh, this is just how it is forme, this is just what I deserve,
this is as good as it's goingto get.
Well, guess what?
That's as good as it's going toget.
But if you switch that, if youswitch it and you start to tell
yourself something different,you're going to start seeing
something different, and Icannot stress that enough.

(01:17:59):
And people are I can hearpeople already like you have no
idea.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
There's no way I could leave my job and I have to
work weekends.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Okay, take a breath.
That is your current reality.
This is not your forever, butif you feel like you're stuck
there, you're going to staystuck there.
You really have to get in themindset and the energy of being
who you want to be first of all,and then letting reality take
you there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
So I'm thinking of, uh, the reticular activating
system.
Is it the reticular?
So okay, I'll give you anexample.
And you're shaking your head,like I think you might be
following my train of thoughthere.
So you see a car that youreally want, right, like you
decide that you're going to getit, and then all you see on the

(01:18:46):
road is that car.
Or you've been thinking likegosh, I would really want a
volvo x90.
And then all you see are volvoI, literally because, like I
want my next car to potentiallybe a volvo x90, white car, by
the way.
I saw your car out there and Iwas like she totally would be
driving a white car.
Like I just like I, like whenyou pull.

(01:19:06):
When you pulled up and I sawyou, I was like that, totally,
like I don't.
I have never even met thiswoman and it's just like that's
hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Okay, so I manifested that car.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Did you yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
It was on my screensaver forever and I would
see them everywhere, like yousaid, and my kids even started
saying there's your wagon orthere's your Jeep, there's your
Jeep, there's your Jeep.
And so yeah, and so they evengot into it.
And then, yeah, not even a yearlater, it was, it was there, it
is.
Yeah, I actually went to thedealership without my husband

(01:19:37):
and came home with it and he'slike um, you're like, it's
because I can right, I didn'tneed a man to be there with me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I did that.
I didn't need you to sign.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
I didn't need any of the things like I did that, yes,
and that's how I manifested itto be, and it's just amazing to
me.
I love it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
But the reason I bring that up is because there
that is, that's it.
Like you're living currently inthe reality that you are right
now because of all that youcontinue to think through, and
that just becomes a cycle.
It's, it's, it literally is,and you've got to break it, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
You're not stuck, you're just repeating the same
things over and over to yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
I'm getting chills.
I get them every day.
I get it you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
I, you, literally your life will change if you
start with the littlest shift,instead of I can't or yeah,
right, that will never happen.
How about, I'm curious, if?
And that is the tiniest littleshift?
That will that just opens thatmind a little bit.
Like I'll never find a good man, how about?
I'm curious what it would belike to find a good man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Yeah, I, I like, had just a little bit of a what I
like to call a brain fart for asecond I was like, oh, my word
of the year is last year.
My word of the year was curious.
This year it's courageous.
So I'm playing, I I'm likeactually the curiosity thing for
me is like it's so cool because, um it, it literally opened up

(01:20:57):
so much.
Like my life took a massiveshift when I decided to get more
curious about things, likecurious about why mortgage isn't
fitting for me, curious aboutwhy I was feeling the way that I
am which started the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Yes, Curious of like.
What would it look like if myhusband and I went into business
together?
Curious what it would look liketo have all of the women who
were on the podcast in one roomtogether.
Ie the podcast anniversaryevent.
I need a date for that June26th, yes, I think I'm open.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, okay, good, good good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
So, um, yeah, I mean it's breaking that cycle and
it's like you're you've talkedabout it on more occasions than
not like breaking the, thegenerational, breaking the loop
that you're in right now.
Like right now there is a wayfor you to make this massive

(01:21:54):
pivot, to get into a space where, if I'm curious about this,
what would it look like if Ijust explored leaving my nursing
role?
Explored leaving my nursingrole.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
And by saying you're curious, more doors are going to
start opening to get you notmore curious well, more curious,
but they're going to startopening to, like you know what I
am going to do this and now Iknow what it's going to look
like and I can't wait.
And you just get to thateuphoria and that excitement and
the anticipation comes and youstart to expect it.
Yeah, All from flipping from itcan't happen to.

(01:22:31):
I'm curious what would happenif it did?

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Suddenly, before you know it, you're at anticipation
and you're expecting it.
I am so excited, margie, foryou to have that particular
client that was just absolutelyso negative, like just so
negative in their train ofthought and like one of those
people that somebody elselooking at them would go

(01:22:59):
absolutely impossible for themto make a mindset shift because
of how negative they are right.
And for you to have thatone-on-one time with them, to
just break it and to share that,because it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Oh, it already has.
Absolutely, oh, it has.
Okay.
Yeah, I have broken through tosome of the most negative people
I've ever met.
It's not easy, but it alsoisn't my job to change them.
Nobody can do that but them.
I can guide them, yeah.

(01:23:38):
And that was a big thing totake on with this business was
like I'm going to take on allthese people.
No, I'm not.
I'm just going to guide them ofhow they can change it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Let that sit to you for the listeners, just for a
second.
I mean because that's what youhave been sharing for the most
part on here is like it's nobodyelse's job besides yours mine
to make these shifts Likenobody's.
Nobody's coming to rescue you,Nope, Except for yourself.
But you have to make theseshifts Like nobody's coming to

(01:24:09):
rescue you, Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Except for yourself.
But you have to make thatdecision.
And people are like, oh,mindset, like it's not an
exercise you do once, it is alifestyle change.
It is constantly being aware ofyour feelings and your emotions
, so that your energy is good.
And am I all rainbows andbutterflies all the time?

(01:24:32):
Absolutely not.
But now at least I'm aware like, oh wait, okay, change that
thought, snap out of it.
And I'm back.
Yeah, because it's not.
But there are days to that, youknow, I just want to vent about
something and I just I'm gonnabe negative for a minute, you
know, and then I snap out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I'm like, okay, so I I do think too, there's
something really cool about justbeing able to like understand
that you, you can hold space forthat, right, but how quickly
can you move through it?
And so if you can spend, youknow, say you, you just had a

(01:25:09):
really tough circumstance happen, and it's sometimes it takes
you like a day or two to snapout of that.
If you can go, wow, I actuallymoved through that in half a day
.
Like I'm literally thinkingabout myself in this particular
circumstance, like sometimes Iwould ruminate years ago, like I
would ruminate days and daysand days on end about things and

(01:25:32):
then finally snap out of itbecause, like, what else are you
going to do?
Sit there, yeah, like soflipping stupid.
Yeah, I'm speaking to myself,listeners, by the way.
Yeah, no, but like if you can,if you can acknowledge, like, oh
my gosh, like only a few hourslater and I'm working through
this and going, bless andrelease.

(01:25:53):
Bless and release, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
And the more you practice this and become aware
of this and make it yourlifestyle, the faster you get
out of it.
And now, when I feel thatcontrast, I bitch, slap it.
I'm like, nope, not today, youknow.
But I also give it a littlegratitude.
Slap it, I'm like, nope, nottoday, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
But I also give it a little gratitude, like thank you
for reminding me of what Idon't want.
Yes, so good, so good.
Okay, so we're like an hour anda half in already and I'm
loving this conversation.
I'm like, oh my gosh, margie,we could continue, we could go
forever.
But I do think that I, out ofrespect for your time, but I do
think that, out of respect foryour time and for the listeners'
time, I want to start to landthe plane, and so let's kind of

(01:26:34):
encapsulate what it's like rightnow running and operating two
businesses, like what are someof the things that are really
working well for you, and thenwe'll start to dive into some of
those landing the planequestions that I've got, yeah,
um, the things that are workingwell is boundary setting and

(01:26:57):
just letting go of peoplepleasing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I'm in, I'm in business, and so you know I have
to.
Obviously people have a levelof.
Please to have some sort oflevel of that.
But in my personal life,because that baggage and I still
I'm dealing with it inside now,like my mind has wandered back
to some issue with normal lifestuff Well, I'll just say it and
I don't even know if you'll putit on here, but just another

(01:27:23):
mom on my daughter's team that Ijust there is something about
this woman that she she's out toget me is what it feels like.
I highly doubt that's herintent.
Well, I don't doubt, I feellike it is, but it's probably me
Right, and it's something I'mworking through and that that
kind of stuff.
As a mom, we all deal with themean girl stuff, no matter how

(01:27:45):
old we are Right, and so, youknow, a couple of times, even
today, my mind is like gone backto that, like I know I have to
deal with that after I leavehere and it's like okay, I'm not
, you just bitch, slap it andyou're like nope, yeah done.
And you just um, and then Ijust try to look at it with love
and clearly she is dealing withsome things.
I mean, yeah, you know thatbehavior is not normal, whatever

(01:28:06):
it is, but, um, just theboundaries and knowing that I
don't have to people, please, ifyou haven't read, let them by
Mel Robbins, I mean highlyhighly recommend, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yep, for the listeners too.
By the way, we've talked a lotabout different books resources.
I'll be sure to drop all of thatinto the show notes as well for
people in conjunction to shownotes for your episode also.
But yeah, that's.
I've heard nothing but greatthings about it.
I also have seen a lot of thehilarious like counters to that,

(01:28:42):
like I can't but it's.
It's all funny, but there's somuch truth about like you are
living this life for you and youalone, and then, if you've got
your guiding principles right,like, but seriously bless and
release.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Yes, yes, turns out there's nothing I can do to make
you like me, nor do I care to.
It's fine, if you don't like me, that's a you problem, I'm
going to go over here.
Yes, it's fine.
Yeah, and I used to be and Istill kind of am.
It's still an issue I'm workingthrough.
Why don't you like me?

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
everybody likes me.
Why don't?
I know I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
I'm with you.
I have a hard time likeaccepting that because I'm like
overly nice and like I'm I'm funand I like like to be funny and
bring the fun to things and Idon't.
So when somebody gives me thatreally negative energy every
time I'm in their presence, it'slike it just rips at me and I
need to just let it go becauseit is not my issue, right?

(01:29:38):
But I let it be my issue.
And so, mamas, if you'relistening, we all do it, even a
master manifester.
Yes, no kidding, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Thank you for sharing that Cause.
I think that that's like thatis something that is going to
truly resonate with a lot ofpeople who are listening right
now, because these are some ofthe these are some of the more
like subtle, weird things thathappen on a day-to-day basis
that can that can kind of shiftyour energy or shift how your

(01:30:08):
day is going, without you evenrealizing it, and then all of a
sudden you're like what the heck?
But like they are realities too.
They really are.
Again, it's not like the needlemover for the business or the
needle mover for your personallife, but they are little things

(01:30:29):
that happen where, if you canjust tweak your mindset a little
bit about or how you lead, alittle bit more with love.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
yes, it is so much easier said than done, but
you've given some nice like it'sa struggle, but the more you do
it, the easier it gets.
But you know, and that'sdepending, on what's like
exercising yes, yeah, for real.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
So actually, um, I I know I said that I was going to
start to land the plane here,but I do.
I think that this is importantfor the listeners and we had
some really um, we had kind of anice little conversation about
some of the self-care yeahaspects of what margie does.
So what, what has that lookedlike for you?
Cause I do think that that's soimportant as an entrepreneur

(01:31:16):
and as a mother, like how you'retaking care, how you're loving
yourself, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
So my biggest self-care is my morning ritual.
I have boundaries on that too,and my kids know it.
I, um, when I get ready, I'malways listening to something
uplifting.
Normally it's Abraham Hicks orJoe Dispenza, something that's
like going to get my mind going.
Another thing I do um, no, no,if sans or buts is make my bed.
It gets my day off too, and wehave a bajillion pillows and so

(01:31:42):
it takes a while, and myhusband's like every night he's
like I kind of miss when youdidn't make the bed, because now
we have to take all these youknow he's joking with me um, and
then you know I just have.
and then if I need to meditatelike my family knows, if I say
that I need to go meditate whichis really like a weird thing
because that was not me beforebut it's like they know, like

(01:32:03):
I've hit a wall where I'm eithergoing to act like me like mean,
for lack of better, or I'mgoing to be crabby.
Um, if I don't like get myselfback in alignment and I can't do
it with just a thought rightnow, I have to like take some
breathing time.
Um, and so that's my biggestself-care.
Things are my morning ritual.
Making my bed, um, does a lotfor me inside, yes, same.

(01:32:25):
And then meditation is huge.
Aside from that, you know the.
You know everyone's in amassage or my nails are always
done.
Those are my things, you know.
Yeah, but it doesn't have to bematerialistic things.
It can be simple as meditatingor listening.
There's one song I listen toevery day in the shower.
It's a 10 minute song, so it'smy timer as well to get out of

(01:32:46):
the shower, nice.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
I go over a lot.
But to the next song.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
But that's my timer as well.
To get out of the shower.
Nice, yes, um, I go over a lot.
But to the next song, whoops,um, but that's my.
They know I'm in the shower ifthat song's playing.
Um, so yeah it.
Just those little self-carethings.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Those are cool little things and um, uh, there's been
so many other women on on thepodcast, on the show, that have
talked about or I should saythis is what I like to call them
the bookends of the day, Likehow are you starting your day
and how are you ending your day?
Um, and I love, love that youmentioned, like that is so

(01:33:18):
important for me to sort oflevel set how the rest of the
day is going to go.
Um, and if that doesn't happen,it's it might be a little bit
more of a trudge, not likecompletely throwing anybody off
base, cause I know for mepersonally it's it might be a
little bit more of a trudge.
Not like completely throwinganybody off base, cause I know,
for me personally it's like okay, if I can at least get a
workout in so much better.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Or like just in the morning, like touch your energy
before you touch your phone,Like you have to wake up and
decide in that moment who am Itoday, and for me it's always I
am my highest self.
Today, I am acting as if and Ialways act as if I already am
the person who has all of mywishes fulfilled that's why I
live as that person every day doI steer away from her,

(01:33:59):
sometimes absolutely, and that'swhat you're human to get back
in alignment because I'm human,but that's how I know I'm out of
alignment.
It's like an inner GPS system.
I, my body, knows when I'mgoing the wrong way and it tells
me.
And then it's up to me to turnaround.
And if I don't, then guesswhat's going to spiral.
And that's on me, not anybodyelse.
But then I take you, take itout on your loved ones, and so

(01:34:19):
you don't want that either.
So it's really important to putyourself first.
It sounds selfish, but it's themost selfless thing you can do,
because, yeah, because thenyou're going to just be a better
person to be around.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
So important.
Yes, and this is the proverbial.
Like put your put your mask onbefore you put somebody else's
mask on in the airplane, Likethat's really important.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Yes, and that's a really good analogy.
It really is yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Yeah, and not to take that as like oh, you're so
selfish.
No Like, if you literally keepthat at the forefront of your
mind, like you are in anairplane and something's about
to happen, you put your air maskon first because, if you can,
care, so then you can care forother people, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
It is literally so important.
Such a good analogy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
We're truly going to start to land the plane now, and
this has been so amazing and Ijust wish that we had more time,
so maybe we'll need to have around two.
I would love it.
I would love it, too.
What is?
What's a piece of advice thatyou would give a younger version
of yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Oh Lord, I thought you said we were landing the
plane.
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
I know what, but like I want to hear, because I think
that there's like we all gothrough these growth spurts-
growth periods.
And it is kind of important togo back to that middle school
Margie or that elementary schoolMargie and share a piece of
advice.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Oh, I just see her in my, that sweet girl.
Everything is going to be okay.
And you know, I wish I wouldhave known then about the power
of my mind and how, if I justloved myself first, how much
your life changes.
You really have to find itwithin you, to find your higher
self and love them, becauseyou're whole right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
My heart's palpitating right now in such a
cool way like we just said.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
It just radiates out to everyone else.
Put your mask on first, it's soselfless.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
There's a gal on the podcast and, um, ironically, her
and I share a birthday too.
Her name is lisa Gandra Harrisand she I had gone to one of her
events.
Finally, after years and yearsof knowing her um and having her
on the podcast, I was like I'vegot to get to one of your
events.
It's just silly at this point,right.
So I go there and she had prelike kind of like pre leading

(01:36:44):
into that, asked us to send um ayoung picture, a young photo of
ourselves, and and then she waslike I want you to always like
think of this young Kelly, orthis young, and like she's
listing off the names, stuff.
Like how would you actuallylike treat them?

(01:37:05):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and so I have.
Like she gave us our picturesback, right, and I put it up.
I've got, I have this vision.
I have two vision boards, right,they're exactly the same but, I
, have one here in the officeand then I have one in the room
right up above, like where I'm,like all of my jewelry is and
stuff, and I have that pictureof myself and I just think it's

(01:37:28):
so sweet to think, like howyou're treating yourself right
now.
Like think about if you were totreat yourself that way as as
like a young girl or little girl, yeah, that like you'd realize
how sometimes mean you're beingoh, my gosh to yourself right.
So I love this question, like Ireally do, and I love the

(01:37:51):
answers that are providedbecause it's just so on point.
Yes, all right, so I feel likeyou were gonna share something
else.
Okay, go ahead.
What's a piece of advice thatyou would give a woman listening
right now?
That's maybe nibbling on theedge of entrepreneurship, oh
okay, don't let anyone else stopyour dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
If you, if anything, listen to what Jesus said and
when he said, go forth and tellno one, honestly, a big thing in
manifestation, when you'retrying to manifest something
that sounds crazy, like leavingyour nursing career for a
photography studio don't tellanybody about it, because their
negative energy is going tocrush your dream in some aspect.

(01:38:35):
Keep dreaming, girl.
Keep dreaming.
Nothing is impossible.
Nothing is impossible, good orbad, unfortunately, um.
So don't let anyone else, um,don't let anyone else tell you
what you're capable of.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
That's so good.
Yeah, so good.
How can people find and getconnected to you?

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Yeah, so, um, my manifestation business is
mindset energy evolutioncom, andthen my photography business is
my kids names put together, soit's benny annie photography
b-e-n-n-y-a-n-icom, and you canactually connect through um the
me method there as well.
There'sa link um on tiktok.

(01:39:20):
Um, I think I'm still at bennyannie mama on there.
Okay, it won't change.
But if you put in mindsetenergy evolution on any platform
platform Facebook, instagram orTikTok that's where you're
going to find all of my dailyinspiration, which I think is
really fun.
I love doing them.
I think they're amazing.
I can't wait to talk about thistoday, but, yeah, that would be

(01:39:43):
my biggest piece of advice foranyone thinking about it.
You're curious.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Now see what comes to fruition from it so cool, who
would be a good connection foryou?
It's my last question.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Who would be a good connection for me.
You know, I would love somebodywho needs a motivational
speaker.
All right, yes, putting it outthere.
Let me tell you this real quickSix months ago I must've done
some sort of manifestationexercise, I don't remember it,
but on my calendar it said checkyour manifestation drawing at

(01:40:20):
work and I was like huh, wonderwhere that would be.
So I looked in a drawer, wasn'tthere?
Looked underneath, pulled outthis drawing.
It was a drawing of a littlestick person standing on a stage
with a ton of people in theaudience.
Get out.
A month ago I was asked tospeak on a cruise ship.
I'm speaking on a cruise shipin January and with some big

(01:40:41):
name people like thatmanifestation, like I, I said it
and forget it, because ifyou're manifesting out of
desperation or lack, I'm sorrybut it's not going to come.
But if you manifest out of likehey, I want this and I'm sure
that it's coming, it's going tocome even faster.
And that came and I didn't evenlike realize I had asked for
that six months ago.

(01:41:01):
I was like oh, I should ask forthe lottery numbers too.
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
No kidding, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Like you know what I mean.
Like I I pulled that drawing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
I'm like no freaking way, and I like, took a picture,
sent it to my husband.
It's just crazy.
Yeah, that's so cool.
All right For the listeners whoare out there listening right
now.
I know that this episode willdrop like a few months after we
actually do the interview, butbut the lovely thing about it
too, is that you're just puttingit out there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
You're speaking it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
And so that's incredible.
Margie, I, like you, talkedabout getting chills.
I keep, I have been gettingchills and just sort of doing
this, like okay, this is sostinking cool, and affirmed that
, like how excited I was to haveyou on.
And also, by the way, I justhave to share this.

(01:41:51):
I literally set the intention.
I was like we are going to havea fantastic interview.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Oh, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
I like, literally I think I was like putting the
dishes away and I just it justcame to me and I was like yeah,
we are, yeah, we are, and Ididn't think anything else after
that, like, besides, I need toget the dishes put away.
And here we are, like I just amso pleased at how this how this
conversation went, the goldnuggets that you dropped for the

(01:42:20):
listeners gold.
Can I drop two more before wego?

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
Sure, so my favorite quote is be realistic, expect
miracles.
That's like I want to get ittattooed on me.
I just love it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
You've got to.
Where would you?

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Where, where I don't know, probably on my leg.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
I have to finish, it's so funny.
I literally was like you haveto like write like yeah, I can
literally see it, I have oneover here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
I mean, yeah, I got to get it.
That's so cool.
Yeah, Like we, so I got to getthat.
So be realistic, expectmiracles.
That actually came fromsomebody who follows me, um, and
reached out and like, said thatto me.
I was like, oh my gosh, I lovethat.
And then the other thing I wantto tell you going back to
self-care I set three alarms aday and I call myself Triple M
because that's who I am going,who I am multi-millionaire

(01:43:18):
Margie, love it.
I haven't hit my goal yet.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
I'm working towards that, so I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Triple M.
And so my alarm, when it goesoff at specific times of the day
, says what would Triple M do.
My alarm when it goes off atspecific times of the day, says
what would triple M do, and it'smy reminder like hey, are you
acting as the person you want tobe?
or are you out of alignment andthat's my reset right there, if
I need it.
And so if you set an alarm justto like check in with yourself
so that your intentions arethere, your alignment is there.
It's a really good way to getreally good, like I don't even

(01:43:47):
need my alarms anymore, causeevery time it goes off I'm like
yuck, yeah, girl, of course I'min alignment, you know what I
mean.
Like now, it's just a habit forme, but that was.
It's a really good way toremind yourself to stay.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
That's so good.
That is that's like one of mytakeaways.
Another like two things that'sa takeaway that I can easily
implement and will do, and thentaking your course too.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Oh, I'm so excited.
I want to see what you thinkabout it too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Margie, thank you for carving out time, driving just
a little bit of a distance toget here and speak into women in
the vein of motherhood andentrepreneurship and setting
really, really amazingintentions for themselves.
So cool.
I'm so excited for where you'regoing, where you have been,
where you're at and where you'regoing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
So thank you for carving out the time and coming.
Thank you for having me.
This is so exciting.
I feel honored to be hereSeriously.
Thank you, it is a big honor tobe asked to be here so thank
you, thanks, well, I hope youhave a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
It's a big honor to be asked to be here, so thank
you, Thanks, well, I hope youhave a great day.
Yeah, you too.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Thank you, can we?

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