Rhythm of the City: Mauricio Reyes on Music, Gentrification, and Life in Ukrainian Village

Prepare yourself for a musical extravaganza, as we embark on a journey filled with melodies, anecdotes, and passion with our special guest, Mauricio Reyes. Known for his time as a DJ at Chirp Radio Chicago, Mauricio's love for music is as contagious as it gets. From his early family influences and his Colombian roots to his dream of creating a band, Mauricio's stories are sure to captivate any music lover.

Together we dive into our shared love for discovering new music, exchanging our favorite bands, and reminiscing about the best venues to catch a live show. Mauricio's insights into the world of volunteer radio stations and the crucial role they play in promoting local music are especially enlightening. As we stroll through his beloved neighborhood of Ukrainian Village in Chicago, we learn about its evolution and the impacts of gentrification. His residency in the area since 2002 adds a unique perspective to our conversation.

The grand finale is an engaging discussion on the evolution of music festivals, with the spotlight on Coachella. Mauricio's chance encounter with "Trainspotting" author, Irvine Welsh, is a cherished memory, and his favorite DJs and upcoming shows are a testament to his dedication to music. It's a journey through time, locales, and music genres that ends with a fitting reflection on Mauricio's missed opportunity to be in a band, a testament to his unwavering love for music. Join us in this unforgettable episode filled with passion, knowledge, and a whole lot of rhythm.

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Guest: Mauricio Reyes

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Records in Real Estate, a podcast about
well records and real estates.
You'll be entertained andinformed as we explore the
intersection of these two worldsthrough interviews with
Chicago's most interesting andsuccessful people from both
industries.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That was Andrew Wendt and I'm Karen Sanvoss.
We are Chicago Real EstateBrokers, property Managers, avid
Music Lovers and your hosts ofRecords in Real Estate.
Andrew, oh hi, karen.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, hi.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
We had a really nice guest on today.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, music encyclopedia.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I couldn't keep up withall the stuff he was throwing at
us.
It was great.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Absolutely, it was lovely.
Yeah, he really reallypassionate about music and it
shows.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
He used to be a DJ at CHERP.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, CHERP Radio Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And one of the stories he told is that you know
, when he would be talking aboutmusic, would just things would
just come out of his mouth sofast because he was so
passionate about it and he kindof demonstrated a little bit of
that.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, he gets kind of giddy like a yeah, like a kid
on Christmas morning.
Absolutely Very fun.
Yeah, which is that's the kindof person you want to get new
music ideas from.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
For sure.
So it's interesting that and wetalk about this during the
episode that there's and we'velearned this by being hosted
this podcast there's so muchmusic out there that you just,
yeah, Don't get exposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, it's just not enough lifetimes.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
But you know, you pick up what you can from who
you can.
Yeah, and he's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And we also got kind of one up on our little Irving
Welsh story because he's got allthe also connections.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Absolutely yeah.
Maybe we're not that far awayfrom having Irving Welsh on as a
guest, wouldn't that besomething?
Tell us the best stories aboutthe house that you owned in
Lakeview.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
All right, well, shall we do it?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, by the way, I don't think we told people our
guest's name.
His name is Mauricio Reyes.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh my gosh, do we have to start over?
No, okay, that was my oversight.
And yeah, mauricio Reyes.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let's do it While we're here with Mauricio Reyes,
friend of mine from way back inthe day.
Went to high school togetherand a music aficionado.
Is that a fair characterization?
I would say so.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, I think most people that knew me in high
school would be like oh, youknow, he played soccer and he
really liked music.
Yeah, so, yeah, definitely,that's my thing for sure.
Where did your love of musicstart?
I don't know, I don't know froma really, really young age.
I was just mesmerized by music.

(03:00):
I just remember sitting in frontof the TV in the early 80s and
whatever it was MTV or the therewould be videos on on Channel
60 and Channel 50, from like 3to 330 or something like that,
and I would just sit there.
I couldn't even you know yeah,I couldn't even know how to

(03:23):
speak English, right, because Iwas born here but it was in a
Spanish speaking household and Ihadn't gone to school yet.
So I would just sit there andwatch these videos and just be,
just like, like I said,mesmerized by the music.
And just from a very early ageI started asking for a guitar.
You know, I was like three,four years old guitar, guitar,

(03:44):
guitar, guitar guitar.
So yeah, from very early on,and I don't know why, did you
remember?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
what videos were playing or like what the music
was.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, definitely.
The first videos I rememberjust loving were Our House by
Madness and Electric Avenue byEddie Grant.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
And then, so this is probably like around like 1983,
1984.
And then, of course, likeMichael Jackson, yeah, yeah, it
was really big then, sure, andthen my father was coming out,
yeah, and then, like I had twoolder brothers, which also
really helped, so I remember,you know, just music just coming

(04:28):
in, and then my parents werealways kind of listening to
music too, but it was likeColombian music that is very
early on.
I don't know what it was, but Iwas just, you know, in trance,
yeah, but music and yeah justkept it going.
It's like an obsession fromvery early on.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is it running family or?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Not to my level, no, I think I took it to my dad.
I took it to like everybodylikes music, but I'm, you know,
at a complete other level ofconstantly going to concerts and
like always listening to music.
But yeah, having two olderbrothers, was really helped and

(05:06):
helped influence some of thestuff they listened to.
But then I kind of took it andwent in my own direction, or
many directions, because Ididn't stick to like, like you
want genre Right.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
So did you get the guitar?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
that you want.
Eventually, yeah, but till waylater.
I was a freshman in high school, and then I was not like the
best, but I had aspirations, Itried.
My oldest brother, though, wasa play guitar, and he was a
natural, and I think I also too.

(05:40):
I got the guitar when I wasfinally got my own guitar when I
was a freshman, but I startedtaking classes, and fifth or
sixth grade my hands were toosmall, so it was really
frustrating, and I get easilydiscouraged.
So I tried, I tried, and Istill, you know, pick it up

(06:00):
occasionally, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Earlier on, we were talking off air.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Off air.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
About.
You know you were doing musicfor a while and I didn't know if
that meant like being in a bandor I tried very unsuccessfully,
like in the mid aughts put outa Craigslist and we weren't very
good.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think we only played out twice and then it was
really hard, when I think oneof the biggest mistakes that I
made, looking back, is nottrying to start something with
my friends.
I think that much be easierthan trying to start something
with four or five strangers,which is what.
I try to do, because that justit's hard.
You know, I wish that when Iwas in high school that instead

(06:48):
of us, you know sitting in abasement, you know playing
Genesis or Super Nintendo orwhatever it was then that we
would have been like, andbecause you were listening to
music while you're doing thisstuff, yeah, that instead we'd
be like hey, because at the timeI was playing guitar, I wish I
would have just had it like hey,why don't you play the bass?

(07:11):
You?
can play the drums and see whatwe can do, but we kept it kind
of separate.
I don't know why.
I don't have an answer to that.
Video games or that dopaminegames and going to like parties
and having fun, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, you need to find a way to buckle down.
That's right.
I don't have too much fun.
That's right.
Were you influenced by yourolder brothers?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh yeah, For sure, I was just going to say, like my
older brothers, tim was acollege DJ, which you've done
some church radio stuff I wantto talk to you about.
So yeah, men Without Hats wasone of the bands.
Men at Work Lots of men, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Men at Work.
The first music that came intoour house was my uncle was
visiting.
My dad has an identical twin.
My uncle was visiting for acouple of weeks and he took my
brothers I don't remember, orall of us to record store and
Men at Work was one of the firstout.
My uncle bought us Men at Workand the police.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh right.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Synchronicity.
Yeah, and those were the firstmusic things that came into our
home that were I think he boughtthem for my older brother, but
that were, like you know, in thehouse and we had, like the
Fisher Price fireball flip open.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, oh, yeah, that's great yeah, you still
have that.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think I I don't know my parents moved to Florida
.
I don't know if I made it down,but I think I do remember
seeing it within the last like10 years.
It was still there.
But I don't.
I have.
I think I have the Men at Workand the police album and I have
some of the old albums.

(08:59):
I have the Jackson's Victory,which is also a pretty big album
at our house.
Yeah, I think it's a greatalbum.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
That's fantastic.
Do you collect vinyl?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Currently.
I mean, it got to a point whereI was like, all right, I think
I'm buying too much, I need tostop.
And I also I'm like a dorkabout it that I, if I don't open
everything.
And then I was like, well, ifI'm not opening it, you know.
So now I've, you know, I'vekind of brought it down a notch,
but if I really like a band,also too, if it's like a more,

(09:36):
like a smaller band, you know,want to like, feel like you're
helping out more, out more bybuying some merchandise.
Right, I do that more, more nowthan just you know.
There was a period that I wouldevery time that I would go, I'd
leave with four or five.
It's addictive.
So, yeah, that's not sustainable.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, when do you?
Where did you?
Where do you mainly shop?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Was it at shows or Well, I live in a Ukrainian
village, so there's, you know,in the area there's a lot of
record stores.
There used to be a record store, right like Kitty Corner, for
my apartment, called PermanentRecords, and it's no longer
there.
It's no longer there, it'sactually now going to become a
dispensary.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh right.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So permanent records I would go to, because obviously
it was just right there, andthen the ones on Milwaukee like
Sugar Records and Reckless.
There's a few in the area sowho were you promote?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
like who?
What's a band that you wouldsuggest you know we look into
now and buy some of theirrecords, or something that comes
to mind, or?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
If you give me a genre or like, locally or
anywhere yeah, locally, yeah,like Chicago oh geez, something
accessible, something not toocrazy on the ears.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'm on a flower, let's see.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
There's a lot but off the top of my head, I really
have loved this band, pixel Grip, for I think they put out their
first full length album in 2019.
I say they say they call thesound like goth disco, it's like
, like dance music with like alittle.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's just really really good, yeah, why does that
catch your ear Like what about?
It resonates with you.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I don't know, you know, like it's just, the beats
are great.
Rita the singer I think it'sjust like a total badass and
she's you know, she's a great,great, great front person
commands the stage very well,like lyrically, it's really good
, yeah, and the music, the beatsare really getting live there.
You know, just as good.

(11:53):
Let's see, I like this banddead D E, h, d and they're
fantastic.
They're grateful that coverband.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
No, sorry no.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
They don't sound like the grateful that I just leave
it, but they're they're.
They're awesome.
They did play.
I think they played a lot ofblues this year.
Okay, I just did three nightsat the empty bottle for like new
years run what kind of music isit?

(12:31):
It's like rock music.
Yeah, yeah, they're.
I really really, really likethem and I like all.
I'm a door kind of like.
Anytime they put out any new,like t-shirts or anything like
that, like I definitely buy them.
Like I have like four or five ormaybe like five dead shirts.
It's all the same thing.
Wow, they do a little play offthe grateful dead, but it's a.

(12:54):
It's a grateful dead lookingbear like peeing on a flower.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So yeah, I have.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I have at least four of those.
I think now I really like dead.
Let's see who else.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's like the ultimate fan.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I really like this group drama.
They're also kind of like adance pop type group.
It's just two people.
They're playing Coachella in afew weeks.
I really love this artistcalled Warm Human.
It's just one person Her nameis Meredith who actually just

(13:32):
put out an album yesterday and,I think, just making some of the
coolest music in the city,right now.
Like every time that, every timethat she puts out something new
, I'm just kind of like wow, youknow, this is awesome.
And it kind of has this soundalready, even though I haven't
seen her live, which is funny itkind of has this sound that

(13:55):
like already like you feel thatshe should like it's stadium,
like type sound.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Like yeah like you know.
You can see, you know herplaying to like Tons and tons of
people.
She's not right now, but I feellike it definitely is.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Is how does she create that much sound with one
like I don't?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
know it will have to, you have to bring her.
But it's very like to me.
When I listen to her, it's likevery there's like sucked in
right away or something abouther voice and like the sort of I
don't know like Effects thatshe uses on her voice.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's very just like whoa, you know, you know, you
know, have you ever, you know,had a band like that where
you've noticed them kind ofearly on that have gone to do
big things?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Actually At my old job, I would, on the side, interview bands
and I Interviewed drama I thinkin two, seven, 2017, at
permanent records, when it wasafter permanent move to LA, and

(15:13):
then they stayed here for alittle bit but then they sold it
to somebody else and it becamecalled I think it's called
joyride records for a little bitand they let me do some
interviews there and Iinterviewed drama there like
Five years ago and now they'replaying Coach Ellis, yeah, yeah,
but definitely, there'sdefinitely been bands throughout

(15:35):
that you know I was seen andthere's been like 15 people and
you know, five, six years laterthey're playing like the river.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Whatever, where do you find, like I mean, how do
you find bands like this?
I mean you just go out and seea lot of music or to look on the
back of you know kind of theold classic way where you see
some this person play with thatperson.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, it's kind of probably like a combination of
all that I mean now, you know,with internet stuff, you know
it's, you know it's pretty Easyto you know, you just kind of
sometimes clicking away andyou're like oh, I like this.
You know, like, are you?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
on Spotify or anything, and that we're kind of
feeds you like.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, not, I Don't really like find new music on
Spotify.
But yeah, I read, like you know, music websites and follow
Different, whatever you want tocall them, like website or blogs
on Twitter, instagram andthey'll post something about one

(16:44):
band and you know, or you couldgo see one band and they're
playing with this other band andyou're like, oh, who's this?
You know that, had that'shappened a lot or so you'll be
reading.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know I also didn't follow some music writers
and they'll start talking aboutsomebody and you know,
sometimes I started talkingabout somebody enough times
they're like oh, I'm gonnalisten to this and you're like
oh yeah, this is really good,you know like well, before you
came in, actually, I was lookingat the the chirp radio Website
and you're, you have sort oflists of your favorite albums of

(17:22):
the year.
Oh yeah, and it's funny becauseit was a reverse Chronological
order and so I just saw 2013.
I'm like yeah that's the year,it is right now.
So I but you had, um, you had athing that just said talking
about James Murphy producing thearcade fire album Reflector.

(17:46):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, he, yeah, I don't, I don't know, I don't
remember if he did all of it,but he definitely.
They definitely worked with himon that album.
Yeah, I think they also.
I think Always on that albumtoo.
Really he does some backgroundvocals on the song reflector.
Okay, yeah like, if I don'twant to sing it right now, and

(18:10):
you know, yeah, now that he's inheaven, disrespect his voice of
my singing, but he does dotowards the end.
One or the same, just just areflector, or whatever he had
since David Bowie's voice.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh yeah, that's cool.
Oh, that's awesome.
All right, I'm gonna put it onour Spotify playlist.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
What's venues do you like to go?
Catch, you know Small to mediumaccent.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, I mean, I'll go anywhere, you know, but like my
favorites, like empty bottle,the metro.
The metro always have a softspot as being my first smaller
venue place that I went to,because you know my first few
shows were at, you know, likeTinley Park or Alpine Valley, or

(19:02):
I'm trying to think of ourother places, where, but small,
like club, but you know,whatever you want to call it,
the metro was the first one.
I want to sell that always.
Do you know what you saw there?
Oh yeah, the, this band fromhere called smoking popes.
Oh yeah, yeah, I just remember.
You know we were 15 and youknow the first note that they

(19:26):
hit, and this is again like 1994or five.
So this is when like machinewas like you know, mm-hmm, and
the first chord they hit theplace just Loaded, and I was
your 15th.
You're just like, you'regetting crushed, but you don't
care.

(19:46):
Like now, you're like I wouldnever do that.
But back then you had like, nofear, you're like, and you're
like in your head.
You're like this is what you'resupposed to do you know, you
just go in there and you know Iwas like it's not so, not fully
developed.
Yeah, like we like 110 poundsand looks like I was like 10,

(20:09):
you know, thrown around.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Protected by some of the people that were that were
there.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know, yeah, I remember then like, yeah, going
to no Lalo, palooza andDifferent shows where, like, the
second stage would be on thepavement and you we'd go crowd
surfing and you land on thepavement Cuz people are just
throwing you like you know, likeyou're nothing, cuz you weigh

(20:35):
nothing.
No, it's like really tooconcerned to catch you.
Yeah, definitely yeah, and wewould always go.
You know, once we started goingto shows at the metro and at
the air, again, you're like weneed to get as close as possible
, right, you know.
So you'd be like against therailing, just getting just, or
in that you know Area where it'sjust everyone's just crunched

(20:58):
together and super uncomfortable.
We would always, always do that.
We were, you know.
Now you're like let's sit inthe back, or like I'm gonna get
just close enough To feel theenergy, but I'm not gonna go in
there.
That's how it is now.
But then it was like I'm goingin there and I don't care.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, you don't walk away with a little blood on your
yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Those, you know, those shows in high school.
You just walk out, just youknow.
Sometimes there would be likeblood and stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I went to ween at the Riv recently and I thought we
were in a good position to get alittle bit of space and the
crowd just packed in around usand it was just yeah.
Yeah you know, in the by thebar test, terrible sound you
know, yeah, find a little space.
What so you?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
you DJ'd for a long time at chirp and, yeah, I guess
, tell us, you know, tell ourlisteners what chirp radio is
chirp is a local radio stationthat First started just on the
internet and then, gosh, I thinkit's now been Quite a few years

(22:18):
that they got on the FM dial.
Okay, 107.1 FM, okay, mostlyyou can catch it on the north
side.
But you, you know, you canListen to it on an app for free
or stream it on your computer,but it's all a volunteer based
radio station that has I thinknow geez, I don't know To 300

(22:38):
people volunteering, alldifferent doing all different
types of things like it's.
it runs Incredibly well in myopinion.
Yeah for Everybody being avolunteer, yeah yeah, you know,
I think the only person who'snot a volunteer is the general
manager, sean, who is thisamazing Person who keeps it all

(23:01):
like together.
But yeah, I think the reasonthat it does so well is because
people are volunteering to dosomething that they really like.
You know, like the people thatdo it, you know really like
music or really are reallyWanted to be involved in a
community.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Do they have kind of carte blanche to play whatever
they want?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
No, I, there is a Albums that bring into rotation,
but you're not really.
You only have to play a Liketwo or three of the stuff in the
rotation per hour and then youcan play mostly whatever you
want.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
There's emphasis on local music to, so that's great
because I mean, Gone are thedays of the DJs you know
personalizing and then coming inwith their own.
Yeah, they found so rare.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, and it's a lot, of, a lot of times, like you
were saying, you were where areyou know somebody's local
artists and local bands.
Chirp is one of the stationslocally where you're gonna first
hear of like a band like dead,but probably got on the air
first, probably like on chirp,you know, or you know or other

(24:22):
very local Local stations likethat.
So it's really important to Tohave that, because a lot of the
stations that you listen to it'sjust the same.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah you.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You know you can put on whatever XRT or Q 101 and
they're, yeah, playing Like thesame songs over and over.
They're playing songs that theyjust are artists, that they
always play.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I don't have to hear you know Smashing pumpkin song
from 30 years ago.
Again, you know nothing like Ilike the smashing pumpkins, but
you know, like XRT and Q101 andstuff like that have a have a
definite formula and they dohave like a Probably more of a

(25:09):
set rotation.
So I hear the same stuff likeover and over again, whereas
here you don't, and depending onwho's DJing on what shift,
you're kind of get a Completelydifferent show.
You know, so that's good.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Did I see that they've expanded beyond Chicago
at this point?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
No, it's still all done in Chicago, but I mean,
obviously you can listen to itanywhere in the world, right?
So when I, when I was DJing,you would get you know hey,
chicken from Ireland great show.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
You know you're like cool.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
This guy's an air and he just likes that.
I played this song Awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, do you guys take submissions from like local
bands?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, people can can send in stuff.
Yeah, the music directors takecare of all that kind of stuff.
But you can send stuff in forsure.
I think if you just go to thetrip website, I think there's
probably links about to do that.
Yeah, to me it's a really coolthing that's happening in the
city.
If you're a music fan and ifyou, if you want to, you know,

(26:12):
go beyond that commercial typeradio that that people are more
exposed to.
Yeah, like this is like Anotherplace where you can.
You can really find some reallycool stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I think there's a.
I mean that, you know I, I knowa lot of people and I know
there's a lot of people outthere that you know Listen to
the same stuff they listen to inhigh school and that's all they
listen to.
Do you think they list thatthose people would listen to
more new stuff if they were,just if it was more exposed to?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
yeah, I definitely think so, because it's just the
way that those other radiostations work.
You know they're there's a, theway they're set up is to play
those certain songs for whatever, for whatever reasons.
Right, money, yeah, but youknow, if a good song is a good

(27:04):
song, you know so if a good songis getting played over and over
again, people are gonna takenote of that.
It's just getting it to to thetwo places and you know it's
like those other stations don'treally want to challenge their
listeners and you know thelistener probably doesn't want

(27:26):
to be challenged either.
You know so they're just herethe song and it's it could be a
good song.
You know like no, I'm notsaying that some huge artists
like Drake or Taylor Swift, likethey have good songs, they're
really catchy, like I get it,you know.
But this other artists herelocally can have just a S K G of
a song just getting it to thoseplaces and obviously, you know

(27:50):
the local artist from Chicagodoesn't have the money that
Taylor Swift or Drake has fromtheir record companies and their
people.
So but yeah, if you're, you know, my dad will always be like how
do you know?
You know, you know the words toall these songs, but you don't
know how to.
You know, do like this mathproblem.
I was like.

(28:10):
I was like, well, if the mathproblem was being repeated like
every day.
I would probably know the mathproblem.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
They're not playing the math.
They took away school house.
School house rock.
Yeah, they don't do thatanymore.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, it's just getting like the the music out
there, but hopefully you knowsomething like church Like helps
people.
You know like, yeah, maybeyou're in your car and you're
going through and you know,mm-hmm, you stumble on it and
you hear, oh, this is good, andmaybe you are a casual Listener
and but maybe they will take youto like, oh, there's this radio
station.
I just played this song, thatwas really good.

(28:47):
I'm gonna keep on listening tothis radio station for you know,
the next 20 minutes while I'mdriving home and hopefully the
next time they get into theircar they'll put on again and
they'll hear Stuff that they'venever heard before and then just
kind of go where they go withit.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, you know, I mean even the streaming services
.
I mean they're all gonna workoff algorithms which are gonna,
you know, sort of keep peopleboxed into what they've
typically been listening to,because they're Crawling the web
for you know, information on aparticular listener and Just
sort of pigeonholing them intowhatever they're searching for.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I was wrong that Pandora did a really nice job of
feeding new music In a way thatSpotify absolutely doesn't,
because they have real humanbeings at least they used to,
yeah working there and actually,you know, vetting the songs and
categorizing them.
It wasn't all.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I'm never use pandora .

Speaker 2 (29:41):
So yeah, the radios, the radio station, you know,
setting up seeding a song, likeseeding a radio station with
just one song and then it feedyou.
Things Was remarkable.
I learned so much new music andthen I switched to Spotify and
it's just like.
Oh, but you know sure but nowI've got sure exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, why don't we take a little break?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
great Andrew yes, Karen.
Do you have a?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Week record record.
Record record of the weekquestion mark.
I do great, so I went to see aconcert last night, the night
before we're recording this ofcourse wasn't the night before
people are listening to this,but you know we're learning.

(30:31):
Anyway, the band was a snarkypuppy and they just released a
record called Empire Central andI played it a little bit for us
yesterday before I was Going tothe show.
And snarky puppy is a a Bandthat has sort of rotating

(30:53):
members.
They have a few key members,the, the.
The main member, the sort ofband leader, is the bass player.
His name is Michael Leek andyou know snarky puppy's been
around for I don't know 10 or 15years.
I would call them a Sort ofjazz jam band.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, but they're funky too.
Yeah, yeah, really funky.
Yeah, dance groovy.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, and Were people dancing last night?
No, really yeah, people werekind of.
We're up in a balcony andpeople were sitting down
Grooving in their chairs, a lotof grooving in their chairs.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Is there not a dance like a dance floor down in the
main?

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, so people were down there dancing because they,
yeah, had no choice.
They were standing.
Yes, I was perfectly happysitting right by the balcony,
not dancing but grooving in mychair.
Yeah, anyway, every, every song, except for the encore, was a
new song from this album.
Empire Central is the 15thalbum and seventh live album by

(32:02):
American band snarky puppy andit won best contemporary
Instrumental album at the 65thGrammy Awards.
Wow, and I would highlyrecommend it cool.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Well, you played me some yesterday before the show.
Yeah and I was a little jealousBecause it had horn section and
basically anything live with ahorn section.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Well, you got me not just a horn section, but they
have two horn players that playthe flugel horn.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Oh man, when do you get to see flugel horn live?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
I don't know it was delicious.
I think the comment that youmade was this is sexy.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yes, that opening song that you played me was very
sexy, and it was that off thenew album.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so check it out Empire Central
snarky, puppy.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Andy yes tell me, this is not funny.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I used to just called me Andy, which was really
through what you do, you know isthat why you looked around,
look behind you like what areyou talking about?
I go by Andy.
I go by Andrew.
Sometimes I don't know how tointroduce myself, so I introduce
myself as Andy, andrew.
It's very confusing.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh wow, I've never heard that, but I'm sorry.
You're right, okay, andrew.
Yes tell me about Ukrainianvillage.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, so Maratio is a big fan of Ukrainian village
been there for a long time.
They're for a long time and,you know, ukrainian village is
sort of a a smaller portion ofyou know what's considered West
town, between division and grandand Western and Damon, which is

(33:41):
really just four blocks, so itis like a kind of just a tiny
portion of of West town.
It has.
It really is truly, you know,one of the largest
concentrations of Ukrainians inthe United States.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I wonder if people who are leaving Ukraine right
now are finding their way backhere.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, that's what he said.
I mean he did say that he'sseen more Ukrainians in the in
the neighborhood.
So I would imagine.
So yeah, I'm looking atWikipedia, not that that's
really why people tune in, butBegan as farmland originally in
German Americans.
But yeah, I mean it's a reallyNeat neighborhood in Chicago.

(34:24):
I mean, is very close to youknow what people would consider
downtown Chicago.
So you know it's very the loopis Super close to Ukrainian
village and so it's become apopular place for you know
people to live either who areSort of getting their start in
their careers or, you know,maybe a few years into their

(34:45):
careers and then also, you knowit has some nice neighborhoods
where you know tree line streets.
There's been a lot of like twoflat conversions into
single-family homes, but yeahit's, it's a nice mix of old and
new.
You know, as Mauricio was saying, like division, which is kind

(35:06):
of the border between WickerPark and Ukrainian villages, you
know Really redeveloped and insome great ways.
You know he was kind of harpingon the sort of the typical
sports bar that you'll findthere, and that's true.
I mean a lot of you know placeshave been turned into sort of
typical Sports bars and there'scertainly a place for that.

(35:28):
But they do have a lot of nicehigh-end restaurants.
Now my family and I went to aFrench restaurant that took the
place of a Pizano's On divisionand it was beautiful time.
We went there for Valentine'sDay, but you know it used to

(35:51):
have more sort ofinter-neighborhood dive bars
that were like super popular andjust wonderful places to go
drink, you know, until 2, 3, 4in the morning.
Okay, less of those now, butthat's what happens when
neighborhoods gentrify or citiesgentrify.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, and that's what I'm learning more and more
about in this line of work ofjust you know, a city is a
amorphous, you know, foreverevolving changing entity.
It's very much alive and allthe little pieces of it change
over time in cool ways, some forthe better, some for not the

(36:31):
better.
But yeah, so enjoy whateversomething is now.
If you enjoy it like, enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Because you know it will be something different at
some point.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think that you know the truly classic
places remain.
You know they remain for areason.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Well, here's a truly classic place.
I went there this to arestaurant in Ukrainian village,
a very Ukrainian restaurant,and I'm butchering the name but
I learned about it from somefriends of mine who are Russian
and it's called TriZubT-R-Y-Z-U-B.
Okay, sure, it's not pronouncedthat way and it's TriZub

(37:09):
Ukrainian kitchen, and it's veryUkrainian, very authentic food,
the whole thing.
You're just kind of immersed inthe culture when you go there,
which is really cool, and youlearn about some of the history
of the country, highs and lows,when you go to the bathroom,

(37:30):
because there is this hallwaythat is just filled with you
know, news articles and things,and I don't know if it's been
updated since the recent, youknow, ukrainian-russian thing
that's happening right now.
But you know, I learned aboutUkrainian history in a way that
I had no idea some of the crazystuff that has gone on and has

(37:52):
happened to UkrainiansInteresting, so I felt fortunate
to have gotten a taste ofamazing food and learned a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
And you think it's still there.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
It is still there Nice yeah, I mean this wasn't
very long ago that I went withmy family so yeah, check it out
Nice TriZub T-R-Y-Z-U-B Okaylet's do it.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, we're back with Mauricio, and you are a big fan
of Ukrainian village.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, pretty much post-college, other than this
little four-year gap.
I've pretty much been in thatarea since 2002.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Wow, you've seen a lot of changes.
Yeah, definitely Mostly for thebetter, or, you know, is it
kind of lost a little bit of itsgrittiness that was appealing
to you when you were younger?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely changed for sure you
know, but you know, with timethings change for the better,
yeah Well, and you change withit too right, yeah, you change
with it, ideally yeah you changewith it, but you know what do
you like about it.
I think it's still you know Ilive on Chicago Avenue, so it's
still got you know somecharacter.

(39:06):
It's still got you know theplaces with the neon signs and
you still got you know some morelike mom and pop type places,
even though you know you'restarting to get more and more
places you know with like the 30TV screens and that stuff.
So there's definitely been achange in you know, like when I

(39:26):
first started living in thatarea, you know there wasn't too
much stuff on like division, andnow division is like completely
different.
And just you know, in the past,like you know, 10, 12, 13 years
, like that street's changedcompletely.
There used to be a lot ofbuildings where you would just

(39:48):
kind of walk and you're like Idon't know what's in there, you
know, and now it's, you know,it's just flooded with the type
of place that I was saying, likea place that has you know like
30 TV screens playing likesports and attracts like a
completely different crowd.
And you know what was there in2003?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
or 2004?
What did you like?
Were there some of theestablishments you liked or do
like?

Speaker 3 (40:12):
stuff.
Well, I don't go out to barstoo much anymore.
When I do go out to concerts,but bars that I liked in the
area you know, like inner townpub, happy village.
It's no longer there.
I liked it was this placethat's now a condo.

(40:33):
It was called 1056.
It was just 1056 North Damonand that was pretty cool.
Like on the weekends they wouldjust have ciphers where people
just can just go and like, takethe mic and start rapping,
freestyle rapping.
But that closed, like in 2005or six what about venues?

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I mean you mentioned, yeah, like that yeah, empty
bottles right there.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
And then double door used to be in the area and it's
now, you know, been famouslyreplaced by Yeti, just just you
know just hard to say that's,things change you know,
sometimes for the worst you know.
And then you knowsubterranean's around there,

(41:15):
right around the corner, and now, like chop chop, spin around
there Now for almost 10 years.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
And do people like seek out that area for you know
a night on the town restaurantsand go to a show, or is it more
like just kind of quiet familyneighborhood, I think I like
where I like my little square,which is, I think, tech movie,
called East Village, is prettychill.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I mean, obviously Chicago Avenue is a major street
with a I was actually thinkingabout it last night, thought
about this a lot on Fridaynights before the pandemic.
The street would just be likeslammed with cars to like you
know 10, 10, 30.
And then pandemic and postpandemic by like 730.
It's like really quiet.

(42:00):
It's so strange because itnever, it's never come back to
that.
You know crowded, massive carsat like eight o'clock and you're
, you know you're kind ofjaywalking and weaving through
the cars that get across thestreet and stuff like that.
Yeah, I mean it's, you knowit's definitely Definitely

(42:22):
change, you know like what wouldyou like most about it?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I mean, what do you?
What do you?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I guess I like, I like, like in my area it's like
a little bit more quieter, youknow it's a little bit more Away
from like that division streetstuff that's been going on the
bar mostly most of the bars inthe area are still pretty, you
know, like low key.
you know You're not gonna go andyou know be in a crowded bar or

(42:52):
Super slam bar where again,where there's Nothing against
those type of bars, yeah it'sjust like what, what have,
what's come in is right, thosebars that have you know a
million screens and it's just abunch of people piled in to each
other and so kind of a youngercrowd I would assume weekend
nights.
Like in my area.

(43:14):
It's a kind, it's a, it's a,it's a weird combination of like
families, but then there's alot of you know Latino, a lot of
you know predominantly MexicanPeople living around there.
And obviously Ukrainian and withthe past year noticed, like you

(43:39):
know, more and more Ukrainianpeople Coming back to the
Ukrainian village, you know so.
If you go, you know a littlebit more west of Damon and
closer to Western there's moreand more like Ukrainian shops
and stuff.
There's a lot of Mexicanbusinesses in the area to A lot

(44:03):
of Mexican restaurants likeTucker is and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah, it's like, yeah , it's like this character and
they're.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
you know, just on my street there's multiple Mexican
places or some Thai place whendo you like to eat your favorite
Favorite restaurants?
In the area.
Yeah, I mean like I just walkout of my street and there's
like 10 Just on Chicago Avenue,like I'd love this place called

(44:29):
JJ Thai, just a tiny littleplace right on Chicago that I go
to at least once a week.
Not more what other?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
today Do they say more.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, okay, you know you'll be just like walking down
the street and everyone justkind of waves at you.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, it's cool, these neighborhoods in Chicago,
you can still be a regular.
You know, yeah, chicago is sucha huge place, but there's, yeah
, you can still find your home.
Yeah, niche.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, one of my biggest goals, you know, when I
was younger, was to like have aspot that I would just go in,
that they would, you know, knowmy name and it wasn't because my
last name is went.
You know, I'll George, went,karen, no thank you, thank you.
She's like taking a note.
Question mark, question mark,question mark what is he talking

(45:28):
about?
But you know I moved around toomuch to to really get
established.
But now I'm in Avondale, beenthere for five years, and
there's a great bar down thestreet for me called Beer temple
, which is a fantastic place.
Gotten to know the bartenders.
It's nice yeah.
Yeah it's good.
Yeah, I have a young son, but I, when I do have Evening

(45:53):
meetings, I I plan them forafter he goes to bed at the beer
.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Very convenient.
Yes, yeah, I like that.
Yeah, kill two birds with onestone, absolutely yeah, I want
to talk to you just the ins andouts of like being a radio DJ.
So it was sure, like the firsttime you'd ever been in that
role.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I made a feeble attempt in college and I don't
remember exactly what happened.
I think I submitted my tape andI was about to do it one summer
.
Then I don't really rememberwhat happened.
But yeah, trip was like thefirst time that you know.
I knew that I Worked in TV, butI knew that I needed to do

(46:38):
something else to kind of, youknow, keep me sane or whatever,
and I a friend that was alreadyDJing there and I was like I
think I can do this.
And then At the time I think Isaw that they were doing some
orientation meeting which theydo, I think every six months, I

(46:58):
think they do and I went toorientation meeting and they
were looking to fill some spotspretty quickly for DJ spots.
So I think they put me in afast track for training and just
Just started.
And then I had a show forWeekly on Thursdays from three
to six for about I think it wasfour years.

(47:18):
Wow, maybe five years.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Wow, yeah, I think it's four years.
So for an aspiring radio DJ,what?
Over though that course of time, you know what did you take
away and what would you tellsomebody who's brand new sitting
down putting the cans on forthe first time?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
I use, I don't know, I don't really I don't really
consider myself like, like a,like a DJ.
I just consider myself somebodywho really liked music that
found this opportunity to playmusic.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Did you have like enough knowledge to sort of you
know, foot the bill, or Did itexpand your musical horizons, or
were you kind of forced to evenno, yeah, I mean there, like
there's always stuff coming inso you'd hear, you know, you'd
pop something in and you knowthe DJs, this new stuff that's
coming in, people would reviewit.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
So you can you know, have an idea what it sounds like
and know, you know what kind ofbands it sounds like, but you
know what genre it is.
You'd be like, oh, this soundsinteresting, they might work
well.
When I play this in this bandand then you put it on your like
, oh yeah, this is really good.
And then you end up, you know,liking that band a lot.
Yeah, I mean, what advice thatwould give somebody that was

(48:29):
starting yeah, just Play whatyou like.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And but what was I the talking in between?
I think that would be the hardpart.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Oh yeah, you know, you just go with it.
Yeah, sometimes I stumblethrough it and sometimes I
wouldn't.
I think I would just Get reallyexcited, cuz when I talk about
music I just get excited.
So I don't know if it was everytime coherent, or you know.

(48:58):
You know, sometimes you'd belike you know, you, I would Like
that, like I'm right now.
You'd be like, oh, this is sogood, you should listen to it.
You know they're playing hereand just go.
You know, trust me, listen toit.
Here's the song.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
But you know like, okay, yeah, yeah, without I mean
cuz, yeah, cuz.
Sometimes the DJs, you know,they know all the ins and outs
of who yeah, I did drums on what?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
and they also, I mean I do like I do know like a lot
of useless music, informationand trivia and and stuff like
that.
But I definitely was not likeyou're listening to, right, you
know, radio, that was blah blahblah.
You know.
Like I didn't have that.
I just felt like I was like anormal person that really liked

(49:38):
Music sure that that resonatedwith a lot of people, right?
I mean, you know, hopefully,yeah, you know, I know,
hopefully you're just, you knowyou're.
I felt confident enough and thestuff that I was playing, that
I liked enough that people wouldlike it.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, and that enthusiasm.
And for me, you know when Ilisten to radio if I have a good
DJ who's just into what they'redoing.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, and also know that there's gonna be people
that Accepting that and justgoing with it anyways, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I think it'd be fun to be a DJ where you just you
pick out a you know recordthat's on your desk, Somebody
put it there and you're like Idon't know what this is, but
we're gonna listen together andthen afterwards, you know, you
know sometimes you get in a jamand, and you know, you kind of
lose track of time and you'relike oh shit, I have, you know,
I mean in 15 seconds to playlike the next time.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
You're like you know, like you know.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
No.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
No, at some points I played smashing but I wasn't
gonna throw on like, oh, here'stoday.
But now I definitely had like amemory bank of like when I'd be
in a jam.
You know like, oh shit, likethink of, like you know the
tab-insie really like, and oryou know There'd be like a rack
of CDs and you just grabsomething real quick and you

(51:00):
know, yeah, yeah, oh shit, Igotta play something right now.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
You know I didn't know what that was and that was
actually really good.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Looks like they're playing, you know, at the empty
bottle in three weeks.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, yeah, that makes me want to listen.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Absolutely, who do you know any of the DJs and
chirp presently?
Oh, yeah, yeah favorites?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Well, there's still Austin Harvey, who would do a
show before me.
He's still.
He's still there from 12 to 3.
Jesse D, who's I fill in forher because her sometimes,
because her time slot fills veryconvenient, I think.
Jesse DJ my wedding?
Oh, yeah, probably.
Yeah, just CD.
Yeah, she does do weddings,yeah, yeah great.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah yeah, we had a lot of fun with her, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
We had nice with her afterwards.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah she got after a wedding.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, another time.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Instead of the honeymoon.
You're like Jesse D.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, we're going out .

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, so that was our couple right there that I
really like Austin trained me,so he'll forever Hold a special
place in my heart.
Nice, and we have very we havevery similar music days, I think
that helps.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, chirp radio org .
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
The tunnel seven point one.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Right, one of seven, point one, and then they've got
all sorts of like DJ schedulesand stuff, so you can look yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Right up to who you want to listen to or no you know
just and you're, like I said,in time slot, you could get
something completely differentfrom each slot.
Yeah, which is cool because youknow the other stations.
It's like you know it's set.
You know you're pretty surewhat you're going to hear on

(52:43):
this station and this station,If you tune in from you know
three to six, you're going tohear something completely
different than when you'relistening from eight to 10 pm or
six to nine am because it'sdifferent people.
Everyone has different tastes.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And being in real estate.
A lot of people are out andabout in their cars all the time
.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
At random times.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Very true, it's a perfect station.
Absolutely.
Yeah, not entirely sure whenthis particular episode will air
.
So this isn't for informationpurposes, but just to kind of
share with our audience, whoyou're excited to see coming up.
Oh.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Any shows coming up.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yeah actually April is.
You know.
I you know we spoke off micabout how I've started running a
lot and doing marathon, so Iwasn't going to too many shows
at the beginning of this year.
But now that I'm done with that, april is just stacked.
I'm going to see the passionmode on Wednesday, which I'm

(53:49):
very excited.
Nice that was one of my firstfirst concerts at.
My oldest brother took me to1994.
Nice, what was that?
Called the World Music Theaterand when.
You know, those first fewconcerts were always.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
They have such an impression of you and that one
obviously 30 years later, it'slike you know, Do they have a
new album coming out, or is?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
it just put out an album like a couple of weeks ago
.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, so that's on Wednesday.
I'm like beyond excited to seethat.
Let's see, I have going to seeunknown motor orchestra on the
eighth at Radius, which Ihaven't been to yet what's the

(54:30):
name of that?
Band Unknown motor orchestra.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
It's a time, it's a mouth.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Time yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Really, really cool music.
I don't know how best todescribe it.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
It's fun.
I mean I've never heard of theband or the venue.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Yeah, I think it only .
I think it opened March of 2020.
So it was only open for likethree weeks before the pandemic,
I think it's.
I think it's in Pilsen Okay, Icould be wrong Right around
there.
I haven't been there yet, soI've heard good things about it.

(55:09):
I'm going to Coachella in threeweeks, pretty excited about
because there's a lot of stuffthat I want to see there, is
that?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
do you go to a lot of festivals?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, that actually.
I've been to like everyCoachella since 2005.
Okay, so I don't know if that'sa good thing or a bad thing I'm
like yeah, I have my kids Likeno.
I'm like a little like.
It's like too many times.
It's funny because I was tellingsomebody this the other day,

(55:47):
one of the like the first orsecond year, 2006, that you
can't drink out in the openthere.
They have designated areas.
So we're in this beer tentsitting down.
There's this older couple thatwas sitting next to us.
I just started talking to themand they were, I think I forget
which one, but one of them was44 and one of them was 45.
And I talked to them for awhile and at the time, you know,

(56:11):
coachella only been around forfive years and when they left I
was like, oh, you know those.
You know they're old people,they're 44 or 45.
They've been to the past fiveCoachella's.
You know, wow, blah, blah, blah.
And now I'm that person.
I've gotten so many times thatnow I'm the 44 person that's at

(56:34):
the festival and hopefully I'mnot going to like sit down and
someone's going to be like oh,your first time.
No, this is like my 19th time.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
You know, like I was here before you were born, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Well, hopefully, if they do talk to you, that they,
you know, appreciate what you'rebringing to the conversation.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah, and then, yeah, say this old that's another
thing that's totally changedfrom the beginning of starting
to go to those multi-dayfestivals.
You know that my first one, myfirst multi-day festival, was
Coachella in 2005.
And things have changed so muchin so many different ways.

(57:15):
You know like at the time, youknow, you do, you know you would
go see something or it wasn't.
You know like everybody hadtheir phone up or anything like
that, cause the phones didn'thave the capabilities of
shooting video, so peopleweren't using their phones.
And just how those festivalswere set up, it was kind of sort

(57:39):
of in the you know beginningstages of the multi-day festival
getting popular.
You know my first year going toCoachella, that was 2005 in the
spring, and then that summer wasthe first pitchwork here Well,
I think it was actually calledIntonation Festival and
pitchwork was like the curator.

(57:59):
And that was also the firstyear that Lollapalooza was at
Grand Park and it was multi-day,but it was only two days.
Coachella was still only twodays and then, you know, a few
days later it's three days andnow some of the festivals are
four days.
Lollapalooza is four days nowand you know the production of

(58:24):
the festivals is completelydifferent and you know it's.
You would go to, you know, thedance tent at Coachella and it
was still just kind of.
You know, some of the setupswould just be like a table with
a black cloth and the personDJing.
But now you go into what isstill like considered the dance

(58:48):
area or whatever, and it's justlike the lighting and the
production is just.
You know, something that youwould have never imagined back
in 2005.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
And some of the biggest audiences yeah, it's
crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Yeah, totally.
Who's playing this year thatyou're like top?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
top.
Well, my number one is FrankOcean, okay, and he's playing on
my birthday, oh very specialand he hasn't played a live show
since 2017.
Oh, wow, so like very, veryexcited.
And that was just somebody whoI saw, you know, somewhat early
on.
He saw him at the Metro when hereleased Channel Orange and

(59:28):
obviously he's like one of thebiggest names in music and just
like a total he's somewhere else.
You know, he's like his ownperson, he's like a once in a
lifetime type artist.
So very excited for that.
And then this year they did apretty good job of bringing in
you know what the younger peopleat the festival would consider

(59:50):
older bands.
So like the Chemical Brothers,gorillaz Underworld, which I
would imagine like no kid intheir 20s, like has any idea who
they are.
But you know being in highschool in the mid 90s and
college in the late 90s.
Like Underworld and their music, you know just the use of their

(01:00:17):
song and train spotting wassuch a like, big like moment for
me.
Personally, that was one of myfavorite movies ever.
Who else is?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
playing.
That I'm really looking for.
Oh, I'm going to get yousomething real quick.
We're going to do somethinglive on air, so we get a call
one day, oh yeah.
We get a call one day as like anoffice lead and Steve Johnson

(01:00:53):
handles it, and he goes to thishouse it's just a couple blocks
from here and, you know, Steve'sgiven him his full like listing
presentation pitch.
And the guy's like yeah, yeah,yeah, I'm leaving in less than
24 hours to go to Miami for abook tour.
I'm never coming back, so wheredo I sign?

(01:01:13):
And also, can you just dealwith everything that's in my
house?
So Steve's like okay, you know,usually things don't go that
easily.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I mean, I've got the listing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
You have to explain yourself a little bit, or like
sell yourself to a, to aperspective client.
It turns out it was IrvineWelsh, yeah, yeah, and so we
cleaned out his place.
Now I think I can't be sure,but this is like a paperback
copy of train spotting and Ithink that these are like his

(01:01:44):
notes, perhaps.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
It's a very worn book that he's now passing.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Turned.
You know his notes, maybe intothe movie manuscript or
something.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, I mean reading the book.
When I first tried to read thebook, it's like you know he uses
this Scottish.
It's like in his Scottish, likeforcing.
I'm just like oh.
I don't understand this, youknow like, yeah, I remember
trying to read it at first andbeing like what?
This doesn't make any sense tome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
This is so.
This is Irvine Welsh's coffeecup.
In the office next to IrvineWelsh's dining room table.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I didn't realize that was from him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yeah, I have a.
This is going back to thebeginning, when I tried to, when
we first started talking, Itold you hi, this craigslist
band, oh yeah, and the name ofthe band was Renton, which is
Ewan McGregor's character andtrans spotting the main
character Honey Lover.
Yes, and it's like fast forward.

(01:02:47):
When Transpotting 2 came out Iwas working at Channel 32 and at
the time Richard Roper wasworking there, the movie critic,
yeah, and Danny Boyle andIrvine Welsh came in to promote
the movie and I remember tellingRoper I was like, oh you know,
transpotting is my favoritemovie.

(01:03:07):
And they came in.
They came in separately forseparate interviews but I got to
speak to both of them and Itold them both like individuals,
like yeah, he had a band like afew years ago and it was called
Renton, and we're like oh wow,that's hilarious, that's
hilarious, that's so funny.
You know, I remember DannyBoyle and I remember saying,

(01:03:29):
also like the movie, when mylike number one, number two, we
have All Time, and thesoundtrack To me at the time
when it came out was like superinfluential because it had
Underworld and it had pulp andblur, iggy Pop, like all this
stuff like just awesome stuff.

(01:03:51):
Again, when you're 17 years, itopened up like this different
window to all this other music.
And I remember being like yeah,you know, danny Boyle was like.
You know that the soundtrackwas so influential to me too.
And he's like how old are you?
And you know, at the time I wasprobably I think it was in 2017

(01:04:16):
.
So, yeah, whatever, I'm 38 or39.
And he's like all right, it'slike we got a couple of songs in
there for you.
We got a couple of songs for youthis time around again Nice.
And then for the they did theChicago premiere and I sat next

(01:04:37):
to Urban Welsh.
Really, I remember seeing thatwas like holy shit.
I'm like watching Trainspottingtoo with the person who created
the freaking movie.
I'm just like sitting there,like you know, inside me like oh
my God.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I'm trying to be like hey how you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Remember me from Monday I had the band called
Renton.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I had the band called Renton and I was gonna sit down
and shut up and watch the movie, Did you so?

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
eventually you started.
You said, you startedinterviewing some bands.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah.
So again, music peeing like mymain passion.
People at work always knew thatI was going to concerts and I
was always talking about they'dbe like, oh, what'd you do this
weekend?
Oh, you know, you know.
And then also, oh, you know,he's gone for this week because
he's going to, you know, thisfestival again, or here, you

(01:05:28):
know, for you know, I always Ilike to travel also too, to go
see stuff, sure.
So people at work always knewthat and I think around 2013,
they were actually looking forsomebody.
That was a weekend where it was.
I think it was Pitchfork, pearlJam and Fish.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
World playing at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that weekend and like,
oh who you know they were at thetime they were bringing people
to come on and talk about music.
But you know, I don't know,they weren't like super like in
love with anybody and like whocan we bring?

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
on and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
I just started a DJing at chirp and somebody's
like, oh, memories, I should doit.
And some people were like, yeah, you should do it.
And other people are like, no,no.
And then they were like, well,let's give it a try.
And then I did it.
And then they're like, oh, youknow, like that wasn't that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
You know that was like again, I just came out, I
was like, oh my god, you gottago see this and this is like you
were promoting the fish,weren't you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
yeah, no but I did it , but you know it's like alright
, like I'm not like super intofish, but obviously I know
people that are so I talked tothem ahead of time.
You know, you know, you knowkind of let people know, like
how passionate the fans are andlike you know, I had like
friends that I talked to youahead of time.

(01:06:53):
They're like oh yeah, this islike my 410th time going to see
them, and you know somebody waslike oh, it was my 130th time
seeing them and I was like soyou know, on the air I was like,
you know I'm not really my cupof tea, I'm not gonna be there
this weekend, but you know myfriend, you know one of my
friends is going to see them foryou know, the 130th time and

(01:07:13):
this other guy is going to seehim for you know that was a
crazy weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
There was a huge storm and fish was playing at
northerly island and because ofthe unsecured nature of that
stage, they cancelled that show.
Yeah, and people actually leftthat show and, I think, went to
Wrigley to see Pearl they werejust delayed, yeah yeah yeah, I

(01:07:38):
think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
If I remember correctly, I think that year
during that storm, I think itwas on a Friday night and I
think Bjork was playing and sheonly got to play for her like 20
minutes.
I had to stop and obviously,like Bjork, doesn't come around
as often as you know otherartists, but I'll get to see her

(01:08:01):
hey.
Coachella she's gonna playright before Frank Ocean.
I think, if I read thiscorrectly the the people that
are headlining got to pick whoplays like before them.
Oh cool, bad bunny was playingon Friday night, wanted gorillas
.
Oh nice, frank Ocean wantedBjork.

(01:08:23):
So it works out for me that'slove I love gorillas, I love
Bjork, I love Frank Ocean.
Bad bunny like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I'm like, yeah, I have an unpopular gorillas
opinion.
Oh, plastic beaches, their bestalbum it's a fantastic,
fantastic album.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Yeah, I mean, I would not say that's a wrong opinion,
obviously, just my opinionawesome.
I wouldn't.
I might put that at the top.
To the new ones really reallygood to.
I'm a big Damon Alvarn nerd.
Yeah, like, whatever he does,I'm always into like I love, I

(01:09:03):
love, I like, I love gorillas,but I'd like blur more than
gorillas.
I think gorillas is like waybigger than blur.
I just kind of realized thiswhen the new gorillas album came
out and I went on I'm Spotify,just you know, tells you the
monthly listeners and gorillasis like a 20 something million

(01:09:26):
and blurs only at like three orfour.
I was like no, I didn't knowthat was such a huge disparity.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
One final question who is?
You know what are some artistson your marathon playlist?
I know it's four hours so wecan't get no.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
No, my, my marathon playlist is actually at like 48
hours, so I just I just add, youknow, I hear something that,
yeah, now moves me, I put it on.
Yeah, there's everything likeyou can you know?
All the stuff that we talkedabout yeah, including, like the

(01:10:07):
Columbia music that my parentswere like listening to when we
were little are on there likethat's cool, it probably gets
you going yeah, like who's agood Colombian artist we can put
on our Spotify playlist oh,geez, like old, like, like any,
like the old school stuff.
My favorite is this guy, joeRoyo.

(01:10:29):
You know, it's really reallygood how do you spell it?
Joe and then a royal ARR O Y O,so that's like.
You know, that was definitelybeing pumped at the Colombian
parties when we were little andhouses has always stuck, stuck
with me and you know, yeah, mysiblings would say the same

(01:10:49):
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Cool all right got such good things yeah, well,
marisa, thank you so much forbeing here.
No problem, a ton of funtalking about music.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Yeah tune into chirp, ladies and gentlemen, 107.1 or
online wherever you get yourapps yeah thank you so much
thankyou yes so Mauricio is talking
about keep saying Mauricio, it'sjust Mauricio, there's no tea

(01:11:21):
in there.
Mauricio was talking about sortof if he had to go back in time
.
You know he, he wanted reallybadly to be in like a band.
Yeah, he did for a little bit,but it didn't turn out to be
exactly what he aspired to whenhe was three years old watching
MTV.
It was a great story, by theway.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
It was a great story Just like a little, you know
Spanish-speaking Mauricio juststaring up at the MTV and yeah,
and just his love of music.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
It just seemed to have been channeled from from I
don't know the heavens orsomething.
Yeah, because he didn't have it, like it wasn't instilled in
him in any particular way, butanyway, yeah, so he had that.
If he could go back into time,I have a go back into time thing
where if I had to do a do-over,no regrets.

(01:12:17):
I like my life, but a do-over Iwould have wanted to be a snare
drummer in the marching band.
Okay, at in college okay, I wentto U of M, oh yeah, and or just
any one of those drummers.
You know, I think of carryingaround those, those four drums
would have been tough, but youknow, snare drum yeah, just like

(01:12:37):
the bad asses and I just didn'tdo that and whatever didn't
even get close.
Sure is there anything in yourhistory that if you had a
do-over not in a bad way, butjust like, oh, that would have
been really interesting toexplore yeah, I mean there, you
know, I have passions that Ithink I could have explored.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Actually, music is one of them.
You know, I remember I was inthis.
I was like maybe it was seventhgrade and I was in, just like
your regular music class and oneof the things that we were
supposed to do was take a Casiokeyboard and compose a song, you
know, and we could use anyelements of the Casio keyboard,
and so, like, I composed thissong and it was really really

(01:13:19):
good and my teacher was veryimpressed and all of the
classmates were very impressed.
And you know, I think, ifsomebody just had, like, given
me a little bit of a push, I was, you know, kind of a shy kid
and just didn't, you know, havesomebody pushing me in that
direction.
I mean, I played trumpet andband and wasn't very good, and

(01:13:42):
so I don't know, you know, Idon't know if it would have
resulted in anything, but youknow, yeah, I wish I could have
explored the sort of being amusician a little bit more and
also, you know, being a chefwould be something that I would
have done at some point in mylife.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I love cooking, love, love, love, cooking and what's
your favorite thing to cook foryour kind of I don't know style
of food?
I?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
don't really have a particular style that I focus on
.
I mean, I don't know, I cancook anything really.
I mean I, I really like cookingroast chicken, you know and.
I've read that.
You know the really just beingable to roast a chicken well is
like actually a mark of a goodcook yeah, to be able to not dry

(01:14:34):
out the breast meat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah, undercook the other stuff, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I think that's.
We're having people over forEaster and I think I'm gonna
like an Easter chicken no, I'mgonna do a salmon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Oh, poached salmon on the grill nice, are you gonna
use the the rub that?
Oh, andy's ripping rub and he'sripping rub that we got
yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I might do you know?
I mean, if I have a coupledifferent sections?
Yeah, I'll try that.
I could that a try.
Yeah, that was one thing thathe suggested it be used for so
Andy's ripping rub calm.
So those are two veryinteresting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Have you seen the movie chef John Favreau's movies
?
I've seen that.
It's good one.
He was just on smart lists andso well, just a few weeks ago
and so I just listened to it andhe was talking about that movie
and the people on smart listswho host it were just raving
about that movie and it's alwaysbeen on my queue and then I
forgot about it it's a goodmovie so now I want to watch it

(01:15:37):
again yeah, yeah, I like thatmovie a lot cool.

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