Steaming Radiators and Synced Rhythms with Mary Beth Brennan

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Records in Real Estate, a podcast about
well records and real estates.
You'll be entertained andinformed as we explore the
intersection of these two worldsthrough interviews with
Chicago's most interesting andsuccessful people from both
industries.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That was Andrew Wendt and I'm Karen Sanvoss.
We are Chicago Real EstateBrokers, property Managers, avid
Music Lovers and your hosts ofRecords in Real Estate.
Andrew yes, karen, hi, hi.
Guess who we had on today, who?
Mary Beth Brennan.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Mary Beth Brennan.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, from the Baby.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Magic From the Baby Magic and good friends with our
friends Grant and JenniferMm-hmm From Bucket of Blood,
bucket of Blood Record Store andyeah, it was a lively
conversation.
Yeah, it was a hoot, a hoot anda half so funny.
Yeah, lots of good talk aboutmusic, mm-hmm, and horror

(01:07):
stories about her condo or slashapartment building.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, it was interesting because you could
tell that she just loved thewhole thing of it.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Even though it was horror stories about all the
things that go wrong when youown your own property.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Or can go wrong.
That can go wrong when you'rein a small condo building that's
self-managed, I mean that'schallenging.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, there's a lot to it.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I mean, it's challenging if you're in a high
rise, as you well know.
Yeah, you know, you even havepeople on, you have an official
board and all of that.
It's hard to get things done.
But yeah.
Yeah, it was a fun conversationand we're excited for you guys
to hear them.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, you want to just jump in, I think, so let's
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, we're here today with Mary Beth Brennan.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, got it Very good.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Nailed it.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Mary Beth has been a Chicagoan for 20 plus years.
She's had a band that is welland around Chicago for that much
time as well.
It's currently called the BabyMagic.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Very good.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
What else can I say about you?
You have some dealings withreal estate, sort of on the
property management side.
You also have a longstandingrelationship with your kind of
Minium Association and HumboldtPark.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I drum for fun with my buddy Jeff.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You drum for fun.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I drum for fun.
Okay, I hate drumming at gigs,but you know what I'm not going
to leave a closed door in that.
I love drums, nice, I loveelectric drums, I love all types
of drums.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm not into bongos, but I just cause they hurt.
That is the only drum I don'tlike to play.
I love drums.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
So you'll do a jembe but not a bongo.
No, I'll do anything.
I'll do anything, I'll justhurt after a while, whereas
drumming with sticks it's adifferent kind of paying.
But I love drums, nice, I lovethem, and I also have had, and
continue for the rest of my lifewill always be baggy time as my
solo project.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Which I haven't played in a year.
But doesn't mean it's not goingto make comeback and it's going
to have a really dumb format.
It's called baggy time Baggytime.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I do a lot of open mics, so some people know me as
baggy time.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is that a comedy gig or is it like a it?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
could be comedy.
Sometimes, if people aretalking to me, it's baggy time,
might just yell at you, so it'slike yeah.
Sometimes, baggy time will takeoff all their clothes, get some
trouble.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Are we going to talk to baggy time tonight?
Well, baggy time jumps in andout.
Okay, you can tell by theattitude.
But yeah, so I haven't done alot of open mics, but I
definitely want to hit back theopen mics.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
How does your partner feel about baggy time?
Because I know about how mywife feels about my alter egos.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's still a part of me.
It's just like you know.
You got a baggy time justdoesn't deal with your shit.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
But that's okay because Marybeth has a self
respect problem, whereas baggytime is very in charge there you
go.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's what alter egos usually are really good at
is, like you know, putting asideany of your sort of fears or,
you know, your insecurities,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Did you used to live in New York?
Is that what you told meearlier?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I was born in Brooklyn, moved to Long Island
when I was seven.
Okay, but Long Island's long.
For anyone that knows.
It's based of two counties.
Nassau County is the one rightnext to Queens, where I'm from
and then that's.
Suffolk County is just thatlong distance.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's out there.
Yeah, I have cousins that livein Long Island, in Seville.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Seville, yes you know Seville.
I know of Seville.
All right, it's out there.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Listen, you were like a center cut guest for us,
because you kind of hit the realestate world and the music
world and we're delighted tohave you.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Finally.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I've been listening to the podcast.
I was like, oh, I can't wait,this is amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I've done both, I think, but I'm not successful
either.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
So I want to, you know, inspire some people to
hopefully buy a dumb propertythat don't know anything.
Yeah, because I've learned somuch about something I never
thought I learned about.
So, don't be too scared.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, tell us about that.
Is this your condo you'retalking about?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I love the way you call it a condo.
It is an apartment with onebathroom.
It's 660 square feet and Godsay I've had every problem roof
boiler everything enemies meanpeople.
I've been attacked.
We just got security cameras.
That's nice.

(06:08):
I could talk about steamradiators.
Oh my God, steam teeth.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Nobody knows a thing about it.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I might be one of your biggest experts and I still
don't know a thing about it.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You really got to play with those things.
And boy, they give you heat.
Yeah, they do, and they takeforever to turn on and off and I
drain the boiler every week.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Nice Good for you, yes.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So, are you?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because I don't trust anyone else to do it.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So you have two neighbors, is it a?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, I got it's a six unit building.
I'm the treasurer.
I was also the treasurer inhigh school.
I don't know if he was as trustme.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
So it's just, I just.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Is it because your alter ego comes out?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
No, no, there's no real alter ego here.
I used to be so scared and nowI'm not scared.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think you've seen it all.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
God, my roof is leaking.
Oh my God, there's a hole inthe roof.
And now I'm like, all right,let's just move forward.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, it's all about moving forward.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
There's six unit building.
Yeah, let's talk about musicfirst.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Okay, can.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I even talk about something else first.
Yeah, I was also the treasurerin high school.
Oh nice yeah yeah.
Nice.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Wow yeah we're on a roll.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, that's great Nice.
Yeah, let's talk about.
I like getting involved.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I wasn't a very good student, but I knew I would get
involved with sports, music andeverything else.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Did you, did you play music in high school?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, I played the alto sax and then I switched to
the tuba.
Okay, because I needed tubaplayers and I love brass.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Nice and is that kind of where you sort of started
cutting your musical chops.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
With music.
I sucked at the alto saxforever.
And then there was this guy,this music director, and he just
knew I'll pump you up Sometimesyou want to play any music.
I just thought it was reallycool.
He just knew how to recruitpeople for the marching band
high school, but he played thealto sax, Okay.
And then I went to high schooland all of a sudden, this guy.

(08:13):
I wanted to impress him.
So I like really startedpracticing.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And I got to be a really good.
I went from last chair tosecond chair, but sometimes
first.
The only reason is cause.
The first one was a prodigy andhe went to this like Manhattan
every day, to like go to aspecial music school.
So like when he came in, he wasfirst chair.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I see, I see.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
So he pumped me up and then I was like, okay, I'm
kind of bored of, I want to,like, learn another instrument.
So I switched to tuba, which issuper easy to learn compared to
the saxophone Really.
Oh well, saxophone, you know,it gets really hard.
We did tower of power, which islike you know like lay and stuff

(08:52):
like that and you have tomemorize everything too.
Yeah, tubas, you're playing thebass kind of like.
It's not easy once you get thebreathing down.
But it was hard to transfer thenotes, cause once you already
know the notes and one, it'shard to reread it.
So I just would write down one,three, one, two.
You see the fingers like atrumpet.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And then if it was high, you breathe tighter.
It was low, very looser, and Iwas like this will probably give
me a college scholarship, right.
Was it a different clef thatyou were reading in yeah, very
good word, yeah.
That's the word I was supposedto use.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Was it a nice or was it a different?
It's just, it's just different,like it just all looks
different.
Yes, people know how to do that.
To transpose Took me a while tolearn how to read.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You know it's not.
It's not, I wasn't going toadjust again.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I got so good at the alto sax, Like you know, I was
like, oh, this part of thejourney, yeah.
But I'm very good at cheating.
I'm very good at even like whenI play the baby magic.
You look at my sense, You'llsee some cheat notes.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, yeah, all right , tell us about that.
How do you, how do you cheatwhen you're?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
playing with the baby magic.
If I feel insecure in any way,I'll write it down.
If I have it there.
I'll know it's there.
I'm like A, d, g, c.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's my chorus.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
let's say and that will, and then I come in with G
and A and then I go back to theother one and then I finish with
F, c and B.
Boom, that's the song writtendown.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's, I think, a bass synth.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I don't need.
We don't have room for a bassplayer.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
We don't have any room at all in the car for a
bass player.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Right, right, being a three piece was hard enough,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Two pieces way easier .
I'm like I don't want a thirdpiece again.
That was somewhat comfortable.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Right, you kind of have spots for your gear.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean, I don't know how these big bands do it.
It's hard enough scheduling.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So when do you guys play?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Where do we practice?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean like, where do you play gigs in Chicago?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Our last gig was at the empty bottle, Nice, which
they dig their sound.
I mean we played almostanywhere.
I mean we're whores and we'vebeen in the city for a long time
.
Sometimes we play a lot,sometimes we don't.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Where didn't we play?
We never played Park West, wenever played the Metro.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Okay, we never played the beat kitchen.
Yes, many times Karen and Iwent to a show it was called a
doom gaze show at the Doom gaze.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, it was a genre we hadn't heard of before.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, it was really good.
What do you have on a venuethat you aspire to play Anywhere
that will have me, that willhave good sound and a good crowd
?
I don't really care where Iplay.
Yeah, I really don't.
It's nice to see the namelights, but sometimes you play I
mean, some people play in a bigvenue I just it's the people

(12:01):
being there in the right crowd.
Great, that's all that reallymatters.
Yeah, and I love when I go to ashow.
My favorite show has like maybe30 people Like some of those
shows like I love going likehardcore show and like just
having the best time stuff Idon't actually listen to, but
the shows I like going to arepeople.
You know, real feisty, but stillhave the love, still have the

(12:23):
respect.
You know, you just respect thatyou're ah yeah, but yeah, I
would aspire it.
There's no limit.
You know I'm not like hey,there's 500 people that I'm too
scared to play.
No, I don't have that.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, Like let's go.
Let's do that.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I just want the band I want to play with, like if I'm
an opener, to have their crowdnot hate me for not being their
favorite band, or whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I just want people to have fun.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
You have a bandmate.
What's their name?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Beck and Nisbett.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And you mentioned when we were chatting before
that she now lives in Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, she's from Arkansas.
Real fun.
When we first started ourmeeting we found out we both
have head injuries.
We're head injury buddies.
We're like same age, we bothfractured our skull around the
same age.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Wow, what age was that?
What difference is I got?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
money for it.
She didn't.
What age was that?
Um, that age was five.
Hmm, five and a half, you knowhow you count your halves.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Of course, yeah, yeah .

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, she's a bit younger, but I think it happened
around those same years andshe's from there and she moved
back during COVID and she's likeI understand, if you want to
replace me, I was like no, wejust recorded an album.
Like you're, she's a go getter,like she can drive, that's what
?
Oh, that's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Someone who's like a car to drive a long time.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
She's a truck driver and a graphic designer.
Yeah, I love her.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
And she's gay too, so we're like total bros.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Like.
We're not like gay and intoeach other.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
We're gay and like not into each other, right,
right, and you're starting toplay a little bit then, yeah, we
play, um, we don't.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
We went on a tour and you know I go down there.
We work on some songs and it'sgreat cause she has had a house
in Roscoe village.
Property taxes were too high.
Ooh, getting into the realestate and uh teaser, and then
uh, yeah, and then we uh, andthen she was in Arkansas another
beautiful house.

(14:35):
I mean, she is so talented,Like she's like I want to learn
everything.
She doesn't hire a plumber, sheis the plumber.
She just uses YouTube.
She's just such a greatbandmate, like on her last tour.
Oh, we're in Minneapolis andthe battery's just out.
Yeah, what do we do?
Luckily, we're across thestreet from the Nards.
Real shady hotel and uh, butshe just totally did it.

(15:01):
I was like wow, Wow, I, that'sthe person you want.
I didn't know how great being afem in the band felt.
You know, like she's got.
She's like totally anammo, Like,do you need a drink?
You know like I'm so gladyou're doing that.
Thank you, but you know, I justI just I just never knew
somebody like her existed.

(15:22):
She's like the dream I neverknew.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Nice, how long you guys have been playing together.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
We've been playing together a while now.
Hmm, hmm, I'm just getting awhole different members and I'm
just.
Timing is a big curse of mine.
Everything's like always beenrough.
I've always had a restart.
It's like I become thepresident after a really bad
president every time, cause yougotta like you get a new drummer

(15:50):
and you gotta like work at itagain.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And then.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So this album we recorded.
It was like already pretty muchdone.
But then two of the people quitin the band and I was lost.
But I knew I needed to say inthe baby magic, no matter what
it took.
I was asking people around thecity it was like hey, you want
to be a fill in sometime.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know it was.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was real pathetic, it was really.
It was really sad.
I felt like a mood chair orsomething.
But so it's been like fiveyears.
Okay, I would say that's great.
Where did the name come from?
My old guitarist, patrick?
We were coming up with names,cause at first we were the Fox,
then we were Firecotch, and thenI moved to LA for a little bit

(16:33):
and then I came back and I'mlike I want to really work on
this project.
So then we got a drummer and itused to be just a acoustic
guitar and me like like it'sanywhere I want we're not going
to practice and there's greatjob.
But and then I was like let'stake this seriously.
So I went and he was working atPop Alley at the time.

(16:54):
I dressed up in the suit, I hadthe band name and I walked.
I was like no, I'm not taking,I'm walking to Pop Alley in this
suit.
And I went to his work and I go, I got the name and he's like
what is it?
And I was like please don'thate us.
And then he just thought it wastoo apologetic.

(17:17):
I still like it, cause I amdefinitely.
You know people, pleaser.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I want to feel like.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I am apologetic all the time.
I'm sorry.
You know like it's that wholewoman thing.
It's real and he came up withthe baby magic.
And it was baby magic at first,but it was too close to other
things, obviously, and the dovereally sets it apart and gotta
say it works, Cause this is likea rebirth we're going through

(17:45):
right now.
It's fun.
I've never truly grown up andit's.
It's works with a lot of artand it makes you think it's
happy.
Yeah, it is upbeat.
I hate taking myself seriously,so love it.
It's a good label for the band.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I watched your music video of your your most recent
music video.
What's the name of the song?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
That's what they say, that's what they say.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
It was very, very uplifting, it seemed, and didn't
take itself too seriously.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
No, yeah, I just thought it'd be funny if, like,
we were a bunch of mimes.
Yeah, cause mimes can't talk.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
But they can sing.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Everything's.
That's what they say to them.
That actually, if you notice inthe, the rule to the music
videos never to get us talking.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
So if you notice, if you want to look at it.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, I'll look at it again with the fresh, fresh
eyes.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
You won't see anyone move in their mouth too much,
all right, unless they're goingyou know, like a, like a mind.
Yeah, yeah, as mimes do, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Like who else do you need to get involved, or did you
need anybody else involved toshoot the music video?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That one was all on my iPhone and I just I had time
with Becca and Arkansas, so it'shalf filmed in Little Rock and
her house and then half with meup here.
I just like had my fiance, likehow old the camera.
I'm going to do this so I getcredit out there.
She's a great cinematographer,so that's great, that's good.

(19:16):
And then so I just had the ideaand I just did it over, cause I
like a lot of locations.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So I'm like, ooh, there's an elevator, let's go.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So I like using everything.
And then I'm on a pinball teamcalled the bad news babes, and
someone on it is actually aprofessional editor.
I mean like she's one of Emmy,like she does it for a living.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So, so, uh, yeah, she did that and also our last
video for it called perfectgirlfriend, which is like a
lyric video, and she did thatwhole thing there.
So Wow, yeah.
And then before that I used touse my buddy from Columbia
college, derek Quinn.
He does a lot.
He's done all of our othermusic videos before Nice.

(20:01):
All for free, wow, all all somuch fun, yeah, and mostly his
ideas.
But that's what they say.
I have to say I think it's mydirector.
That's all me Like.
That was Nice.
Is that your directorial debut?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's a tough 40-second.
Yeah, I wouldn't say debut.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I make a lot of crap that's fun to watch, that no one
cares about, but so it's allgood.
It's all good, it really is.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Please don't hate it.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, please don't hate it.
Nice.
Yeah, I'm just not good atbeing an internet whore in which
I really need to start doing.
I'm just.
I mean, I love podcasts andthis type of self-promotion, but
I have trouble typing inself-promotion.
It's hard, I really do.
Jenny used to do it from Bucketof Blood Sure.
I used to pay her somethinglike can you make a post?

(20:51):
I can't do it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
She's good at it.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh, she's really good .

Speaker 1 (20:55):
They have a good social media presence.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, that's my.
I'm a failure at that and Ithink it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well, I found the video and it was really easy to
find.
It was just a couple of clicksfrom your Instagram page.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, but it wasn't in your face immediately, Like
you didn't already know.
You looked for it though.
You looked yeah, yeah, but yeahwhatever, I don't need to get
down on myself.
Am I your?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
target audience, you know, for the baby magic.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Why not?
Because I'm an audience.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I never thought I mean, my target audience is a
bunch of woman, a bizarre.
But yeah, I would love for youto join See.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, when's your next?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Chicago gig.
We're not whoring out too much,but hopefully we'll play at
least twice a year in Chicago,maybe three times, maybe more.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
But where can they find you?
We got an Instagram and aFacebook and other than that,
I'll try to whore it out inother ways.
You know I still hand outflyers.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
People were like you know, like whoa, I miss flyers.
I was like why you miss flyers?
It's bad, not paper goes backinto the earth.
I don't know one that spendsthe money at Cancun.
That's right and it's a great.
I believe in the flyer.
I love the flyer.
It's a great way to put yourart in Love it.
Do you have a full page flyer ora half a quarter page?

(22:20):
I do 11 by 18, usually, andthen I cut them up for the
flyers I have in print and thenI bother the person that's like,
oh, you can do it yourself.
I was like I'm going to needyour help again.
But, yeah, I never go.
I'm not going to go to theKinkos Saturday at 4 PM.
I promise them, Like, go atweird times where they spend

(22:41):
some time with you Because it's.
Fedex Kinkos now.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah they got more stuff to do.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
They do have more stuff to do.
It always seems like they havepeople standing around doing
nothing, though, so yeah, thatwould be a great job, though
that's the goal mine.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
If I'm standing around doing nothing, no
printing whatever you want forfree.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Oh nice.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like working the graveyard shift at.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Kinkos.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, you can print your own books.
That could happen, man, you canmake that happen.
No, not that they're joinedwith FedEx.
I won't touch it.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
You're a UPS gal.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, no, my partner actually works for FedEx, but I
know how hard the job is.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's a very hard job.
God, it's your only one, I'lllet her do it.
Yeah Well, maybe she can printyour book.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, no, she hasn't worked in the, she works out.
You know, she works in thereally Gotcha, the big places
that you, the facility, thefacility.
You know the words I got goodwords.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Hey, we're in real estate.
Yes, that's me.
We know real estate words.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, and I knew Clef too.
I'm two for two, you're two fortwo.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, where do you like to watch music?
Like, do you have a specificplace where you're like you know
, like you know the amped upmusic you were talking about
before, oh, I mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I haven't been out in a bit, but I love a good
house show.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I think you have the best time.
Sometimes it's a littleintimidating playing a house
show like because everyone'sjust so cool, but then I don't
know, I feel like you becomelike a fun little family at the
end, like a really good houseshow.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm not gonna.
I've been to so many in Chicagoand I played a lot and I gotta
say what a great idea.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You mean like literally a band that plays at a
house, in a house.
Yeah, yeah, oh my God.
Basement show.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I love a good basement show.
I don't care how old I get.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I'll be that person.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Do people still do that?
I mean, I'm just probably soout of touch that I don't know
that.
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I haven't been to one in a while.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
But maybe I haven't been invited.
See, I come off very preppybecause I am a prep.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, so they don't think it.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
But, I am very punk rock.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And do you have that kind of?
Fissureman sweater going onyeah, well, I like preps.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I like preps Preppy's fun.
I love buttons and stuff likethat.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah yeah.
So you're a prep on the outsideand a punk rock gal at heart.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, I depends.
You know I can't be too punkrock because if somebody like I
feel like I'm not, like if youuse a straw and you crumple up
into a ball and you leave it onthe table, I'll just stare at it
because it'll gross me out,because it'll remind me of a
spit ball on a bus or somethingLike I have, like, very, I guess

(25:18):
I have punk rock moments.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When are you drawn to writesongs?
Like you know, I always used towrite when I was sad and then I
was like I'm gonna write ahappy song and it never happened
.
Do you have times and places orthings that trigger you to be?
Yeah, it can happen at anymoment, but I used to wait

(25:41):
tables forever or I wrote, youknow, if I'm bartending it, so
not at my current job, but otherjobs that receipt paper Pss.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Mm-hmm, pss, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Start writing, and I've written a lot of songs.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
On the actual paper of receipts On the receipt paper
.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, that's expensive paper.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
So let's not Mm-hmm, I hope this podcast doesn't get
too big.
You know I might owe somepeople some money.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
But yeah, a lot of just something hits and then
sometimes, yeah, a song, I'll beon my catch, I'll be anywhere
and a whole song will be written.
Sometimes the ones, the bestones, I just write in one
sitting, yeah, and have no edits.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And then some songs I have to wait on, like I'll have
one part and then I'll haveanother part, yeah.
And then sometimes you know abandmate will be like, ah, not
too much, and then I'll sell itto them in a different way three
months later.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
And I like that.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I was like heh Heh.
So you write all the parts forthem, and then they come in and
play your parts.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
No no.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I write all the lyrics and sometimes, when I
present the lyric in my rhythmin my head, like sometimes I'll
for instance, I was with myex-girlfriend.
I was she was getting her haircut at Goldenbrade this is a
long time ago and I was likesure, I'll wait in the chair
while you get, and I'm all, likeyou know, hung over and there's

(27:06):
a bunch of kids around and Iwas like, please excuse my
breath, I'm off today, you know,and I'm doing it like that,
acting like an outsider, likeeveryone's getting fresh, and I
just want a drink and I don'tcare if I smell like it.
Yeah, it's my day off.
And I called that song FrankSinatra.

(27:26):
Don't worry, I hate FrankSinatra, but I was singing like
Frank Sinatra, you know.
Boom, blah, blah, blah, youknow.
And then so I called it Frankso I could remember that, yeah,
but then I just sped it up.
It kind of sounded like a promsong almost, so it becomes
something.
So sometimes I'll write in therhythm of a song I heard and

(27:48):
sometimes it'll just come to meand I'll write it and I'll label
it with the rhythm I heard itto.
But usually when the song'smade like, everything gets lost,
you know, but sometimes ithelps me, like keep it, yeah,
but usually any song I wrotewith rhythm has completely
changed, like the birth of asong to the end, yeah, the final

(28:10):
version.
But the version of sometimes abaggy time song becomes a baby
magic song.
So on our last album, roughDance, the girl the boys
practice on is a total baggytime song.
But I was like I don't know, Ithink it's pretty good and
Becca's like I've always wantedto play it for the baby magic
but like no, it's not really.
And Becca's like we're playingthat song, yeah, and then I

(28:32):
recorded it.
She's like I'm playing it justlike you played it.
So that's completely kind ofwritten by me, except she does a
killer song.
Seattle guitar song.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm rhythm, I can't, that's hard.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, impressive Good thing she can
yeah.
The perfect bandmate yeah butno, I have time.
I have books.
So, like my the brain, I'llwrite anytime.
I always usually carrysomething.
I have notes on my phone.
Although I do like pen andpaper the best.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I like writing it down.
My old server books are full ofstupid songs.
Nice, Some are gold, somearen't.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
but yeah, do you ever go back and look at some of the
things that are written in thebook?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Sometimes.
But yeah, I do write a lot,it's not.
It's something like if I nevercome up with a good idea again
or an idea.
Let's say I got tons of oldbrain.
Yeah, all over the file I havebooks and some of them I think
I'm like oh my God, this poorgirl, what the hell.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
What was she thinking ?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh, my God, she's so wasted.
Look at this handwriting whatwere you drinking?
I could tell.
I could almost tell like ooh,I'm coked up or a crystal mat.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
This is some neat handwriting.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And then sometimes I'm like oh, I was smoking some
weed.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I like writing on planes a lot too.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like being, I still go to New York all the time with
my family still there.
So I'm on the plane a lot andit puts me in a place because
everyone feels alone on a plane.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Right, right right.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
But also there's something very together about it
and it really.
And then if you buy the windowseat and you're like, who lives
there, who lives in that squarelooking spot, yeah, it gets you
thinking.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I wrote a poem.
I used to write poems incollege and I wrote a poem
called the plane was called BigEd and I was on my way to Las
Vegas.
And I wrote a poem called aseat near the wing on Big Ed.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
So like I've looked out that window, why did you
name the plane Big Ed?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I didn't name the plane Big Ed.
The name was like on the planeitself.
What kind of plane?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
were you.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It was a passenger plane.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't know.
I mean, does American Airlineshave a little name?
Do they name, you know?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I've never seen that, ever again.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
But this plane when you're getting on the plane we
can hold World War II?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
No Boeing 787, whatever the fuck.
It was Big Ed.
But it had right by the doorthe entrance and the plane.
It had Big Ed in quotations.
I love that.
I assume that was the name ofthe plane.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
It inspired.
You yeah.
I love that yeah, they shouldbring that back Probably some
executive was like you know what.
We need to stop putting thenames on.
Can't name your plane in yourart.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Or maybe that particular plane was named for
an executive.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Oh, maybe he was Big Ed.
He passed away and they namedhim.
Yep, okay, I like that You'resuch a silver lining guy.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I love riding on planes.
I often, you know, if my lifehad gone differently, I would
definitely aspire to be, youknow, like Charles Bukowski,
just a barfly riding poetry onnapkins.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh yeah, I mean Charles Bukowski.
I didn't get angry like why'dthat woman turn me down?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
That bitch.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
There's some fucking wrong with her.
All these woman fuck bitches.
I can't believe they canfucking drink in a bar.
You know what I'll do?
Okay, I'll put it right here.
I'll put it right here.
I'll tell you how much I hatethis person.
Kurt walking in like hedeserves some fucker.
I did Baggy Time, did open forCharles Bukowski play.
It was really fun, oh wow.

(32:17):
Yeah, I acted like a retiredcop and like it was.
It was really.
It was really, really fun andthat's basically what I gathered
from the play, but it wasreally good Is that he's a great
writer.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, that he was.
He was an angry sort of master.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Drinking can put you in a place.
I mean, we can all hate what welove sometimes.
Maybe, you know, he didn't wantto be better, but he wanted the
best from someone else.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't read them.
I just opened for Charles.
Bukowski plays and I know, theguys in college like, oh, I love
Bukowski.
And I was like then I startedlooking out for guys that like

(32:54):
really love Bukowski and takehim seriously Like what's not to
take seriously but I kind ofwant to be like him.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Not that you're one of these guys, no, no definitely
not but I was like huhsomething about it.
He just came to mind because hesits in bars and writes on
napkins, that's all.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I've sat in bars and I'm good at school supplies.
There you go, I bring my own.
You know that's annoying aboutphones, though Everything's on
the phone.
I miss because I used to alwayshave a book and sometimes, if
I'm on the plane, of course,have a book, but I used to
always carry a notebook.
It's more fun to write in anotebook than it is, yeah you

(33:35):
look like a secret agent.
Sometimes yeah Like oh is she?
a reviewer of the bar.
Maybe we should be extra nights.
So you're an egg foam drink.
Now we're all reviewers of barsand no one really cares.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
That's so many reviews of bars.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Keep on reviewing.
Oh, musical influences.
I wanted to ask you about that,listening to the album that you
dropped off, I got the CDversion and you've got only
because, I listened to thepodcast and you said you didn't
have a record.
It's so great because I don't,and now I can actually listen to

(34:16):
.
So I don't want people thinkingI wasn't going to give you some
vinyl.
I asked Andrew earlier today ifyou had a CD player.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Where the fuck is my vinyl.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
What about me?
I don't get vinyl.
Well, he says you got a recordplayer at work and you got a,
and he's got a record player athome.
So it's beautiful out of thetwo of you you got you don't
need to get vinyl.
It's an expensive habit.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh yeah, that's why I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I'm not going there, but I will be on a podcast
called Records and Real Estate.
Well, you know shame.
I thought that was awesome.
Yeah, don't be ashamed of it, Iwas.
I just wanted to drop off somemerch for you.
I loved it so well.
So that particular album andsome of your other songs, I had
my own thoughts about what mightbe influencing you and I would

(34:59):
love to hear, like artists thatyou, you know, have loved and
admired and and maybe they leakinto your creativity, oh,
absolutely, yeah, um, artiststhat really spiked me.
I was late to love.
I don't really understand it.
Like, yeah, a lot of love outthere and break up songs, even
even with the hippest bandsaround, but they might be giants

(35:24):
, hit my soul.
Because I was like wait, I canwrite about anything.
Yeah like maybe I can on thestreet.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Let me know that music is for everyone and you do
whatever you want to do, yeah.
And so that like kind of got megoing.
That's nice, yeah.
And then modest mouse, like ohmy God, late 90s, or like 2000,
modest mouse, such one of thebest lyricists ever Sure, and I

(35:51):
was obsessed with them becauseyou drive and this is a long
drive for someone with nothingto think about.
It's one of the best albumtitles ever.
And and he's just, he's a good.
He's a good rambler, he knows,he knows how to open up your
mind and he's really greatguitarist and easy to listen to.
So those were definitely twovery different, but also letting

(36:15):
you know to do whatever youwant.
Yeah, I like that.
What about?
Because when I listened to someof it it immediately invokes,
like an 80s synth pop,especially Gary Newman.
Are you really, do you knowGary Newman?
I know he is, but no, I now Igot a list.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
God, it just like it oozed that sort of cool dark,
dark wave vibe to me.
Yeah, I love synthesizer.
Yeah, I love like Madonna, Ilove Madonna, I also a lot of.
It is actually very fourseasons.
You might not see it, but if Idance a lot, ok, I'm a big party

(36:56):
animal, just I could, I couldsee that.
And oh, it's starting to show.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Oh no, it's coming through.
It's coming through.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, but like I, like you know other pops and the
locks and their discipline andcontrol, and I love the
synthesizer is just so awesomeBecause I I am an entertainer,
I'm not really a musician.
I look at it like that.
So I say, by an expensivesynthesizer, put on a credit
card, press a note, it's goingto sound good.

(37:28):
You press too many notes on thesynthesizer, it sounds a little
clunky, yep, but like you know,borderline, listen to that,
it's great, it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
And she's.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
We have similar ranges.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
So that's interesting , you know.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'll have to.
I love 80s, 90s.
You know it's hard to find outwhat I don't love.
Ok, yeah, well, give a giveanother go around to Gary Newman
, because it just that's whatstuck to me.
But sometimes you just got todo what you're good at.
Yeah, that's why I like to playguitar, just in case I won't

(38:07):
have a guitarist, like in caseeveryone something happens.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Right, but when like I'm here.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I'll show.
Are you always playing guitarand singing?
Are you the front person?
What are you?
I'm the front woman.
Ok, I'm the front person.
Front woman, I'm front and, butI'm not as center, because I
started playing the synth andactually kind of like it, but I
also don't like to play it allthe time, so I like to strict
you if you really want to getaround on stage, true, but also

(38:35):
there's not always a lot of roomto dance, a lot of venues and
do what I really want to do.
Also, if I play a big song andI'm dancing, I'm jumping around,
oh great, the synth is my nextsong.
So like you, know it does giveyou a little break.
I try to like if I know I'mgoing to go on tour, I try to
like run in place and sing mywhole set.
I want to make sure I can do it, oh wow.

(38:56):
I like to be athletic on stage,I like to like really bring it.
But also playing the synth, letyou be a part of the music of
it and it does feel good.
If I do it a lot, I actuallyreally enjoy doing it.
I am so confident I'm not evenlooking at my cheat sheet by the
end of anything.
If I'm well practiced, yeah,but I definitely want to make

(39:18):
sure I I don't always do it.
And let's say, if we did takeoff World Tour, I'm getting a
synth player.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Right yeah, if I, if I had enough room in the band.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
And somebody really wanted to, and you find the
right personalities and someonethat wants to and has the time,
because time is more expensivethan money you know whatever.
Right, and so it's.
It's hard to find commitment onlevels, and I don't constantly
want to replace people.
I fall in love with people.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, that's stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's a breakup when someone's like I can't do the
band.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I get sad.
Yeah, it is sad.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And kicking people out.
Oh my God, I don't like to dothat.
Yeah, but I'll do it if I gotit.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Do you have any like present hopes for the band?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I mean, you know, Honestly, I really like having
it.
Like some people like he's sureit's never gonna mount anything
.
You know people like don't puttoo much into this band.
I was like, okay, let's say, ifpoker was my hobby and I did it
all the time you want to frownupon that?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
It's like why can't I do something like this?
Don't get too attached to cards, yeah, yeah.
It's just like I don'tunderstand, Like it could be a
hobby that takes off if I got toput everything into it and
everyone else could.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
But I accept that it's a very strong hobby that I
need to tour.
I would love to like world tour, of course, europe.
I'd love to play in Japan,that's the ultimate.
If I played in Japan and I hada good show couple shows I could
be like.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
You know what I went to the highest of this.
I went to it.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
That's it.
Maybe I might be passing, butI'm not passing yet I will know
if.
I'm ever passing.
But, it's also too much fun, Ilike it.
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's a big party, shows are fun.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's cool to hear you say that why not?
What's it hurt?
What's it hurt?
Well, I think a lot of peopleget to that point where, I don't
know, they have these dreamsand aspirations of other things,
and then life gets in the way.
But music, if you really have apassion for it, it can morph

(41:25):
into anything.
And it's just that.
I mean, you were a tuba player,now you're a lead singer in a
band.
Who knows what's next?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's like through lines If.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I was let's say, an actor and things weren't working
out.
But that was my goal in lifeand I was like you know what,
I'm not going to be romantically.
I'm going to give up on thatBecause I wanted to be
romantically and Leo did allthat and all these other actors
do it.
Now I'm getting too old orsomething that would make sense.

(41:58):
But music is just so endlessand I don't see the reason to
quit, unless I just didn't wantto do it, because I never
thought in the first place I'dbe successful in music.
I just thought it would bereally fun to play a show.
And it is and it always is, so Idon't if.
That's why I was always in it.
I think it's really cool tomake a music video and see it.

(42:19):
I think it's really cool totalk on a podcast about yourself
.
Come on, if I was just doingall those regular things, you
wouldn't have me in here today,right?
Probably not, exactly.
I just I think it's a lot offun when people dance to your
music.
Oh my God, everyone knows asong and they sing it back.

(42:39):
Yeah, I think I'm a bigger fanthan them of them.
Right, I'm like what's your name?
Oh my God, thank you so much.
I just I just don't see whatthe problem is because I never
got into it thinking I, I neverthought.
My mom always don't sing.
You're horrible.
I was a horrible singer.
I learned how to sing.
I learned it.

(43:00):
I was.
There was no way in hell.
I was not a natural.
Yeah, the only thing I was anatural at was going crazy at a
party.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So it's a good foundation yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
If you turn that to being on stage, people have no
problem with you being a partyanimal.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Right, right.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
And I think that's something that you really can't
learn Like if you're justnaturally just exuberant on
stage, that's something that'snot a lot of people are able to
do.
You can always learn aninstrument.
Yeah, but you can't learn thatyou can go to a general workout.
Why not just work out on stagein front of everyone?
Yeah, because I have so muchenergy sometimes and I don't

(43:40):
know where to put it and I'msuch an intense person that it
works out perfectly that youcould do this stuff at a show.
That's exactly what you'resupposed to do.
You're supposed to give themeverything, and it's the one
place I can really giveeverything I am, and it's
totally where it's supposed tobe.
So it just lines up, it justworks out for me.
It's healthy in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
That's amazing.
I love it.
That's great.
It's a great place to take alittle bit of break and we'll
come back and talk real estatein Chicago.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Love it Rock in real estate.
Let's go Woo Yo, Andrew.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Hey Karen.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Hey, do you have something that you want to share
with the group?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, are you talking about a?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
record of the week.
A record of the week, a recordof the week.
A record of the week, a recordof the week I have a band.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, what do you got ?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
It's called Water From your Eyes, okay, and the
album is.
Their new album is calledEveryone's Crushed.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
They are.
I guess you would call them apop duo.
I'm looking I did, you know,google search for them today
just to get a little bit of youknow background, but I don't
know.
I found this band because I didsort of an enhanced playlist
off of Spotify and theyrecommended this band and

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they're really, really talented.
They're Brooklyn Duo, and thepreamble to this review,
pitchfork review, is reallyamazing.
So I'll just read it theBrooklyn Duo's Logic Define new
album Threads, anti-capitalistCritique, stoner Humor and a

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hazy undercurrent of fatalisminto art pop.
So mesmerizing.
It'll give you a contact tieand Kat Zhang wrote that for
pitchfork, you know, as apreamble to the review of their
new album called Everyone'sCrushed, and it just, I don't

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know how to describe it.
It's just like it's reallydifferent.
It's different, more differentthan anything I've really ever
listened to.
Wow, it just has this like kindof like baseline and then it,
you know what's reallyinteresting is, you know, in our
conversation with Mary Beth shetalks about how music can just

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be anything and this really, Ithink, just defines that, you
know, in such a fun way thatmusic can be anything.
It just kind of has thesebaselines that are sort of
driving and sort of just reallyin the background and then from
there just really has both ofjust a lot of fun, both from a

(46:27):
vocalist standpoint and otherinstruments that are playing.
So I didn't really do a greatjob of describing it, but you
gotta listen to it.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
You intrigued me enough with your description to
be like wow, I mean, just yeah,I want to check it out.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah, we'll check it out, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
All right, great Well , thank you yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
And we're back with Mary Beth Brennan.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yes, hello, hello.
And so we're gonna go realestate side.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah, let's talk about some real estate stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Talking about the places in not-duster mind spaces
.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Is that an actual song?
No, oh.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
It is not.
It is not yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Let's see where should we start.
So you have lived in HumboldtPark for a good long time.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Compared to most 2009 .

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I moved back from LA.
I was like you know, you reallyhave to stop renting.
You're just giving your moneyto people.
And my boss at the time inLogan Square I worked at Fat
Boys Ribshack.
Her husband was a realtor, okay, and he's like I've got a spot
for you.
And then, I don't know, I wasjust so excited.
I was like sure, I looked at it.
I was like yeah, I'll take it.
I didn't know like they couldhave like searched and maybe I

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was just like I don't want toput anyone out of their way, you
know, and like I didn't know,like it just seemed like like,
oh, this is the spot we found.
I could have been like hey, canI see some other spaces?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
But I just want to done.
Yeah, well, honestly I gottasay I really there's a lot of
problems and I've been through alot of crap.
Yeah and a lot of awful people.
But there's something aboutthis place I love it's on the
top floor you know, and it's.
This isn't an apartment people,this is just an apartment

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building, but it's west.
My windows all face west andthere's no building like higher
for a while.
It's all houses.
So, I get a sunset, yeah, andthat means the world to me.
I have a back porch and we justredid our porch which is a war
to get done, by the way but youown this place.

(48:41):
I.
Technically, the bank owns it.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, yeah, you're paying the mortgage though.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Technically, my dad lives with me, okay, but I paid
for it.
I paid for it the whole timeand I had to deal with a really
rude developer.
You know the type of guy thatjust calls you woman.
Oh, wow, oh yeah, yeah likeintact and everything, but it's
all been bought out.

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He has no part of it.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Did he for a while like longer than you anticipated
.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Cause I didn't know what to anticipate.
I went in here blind.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I just heard my mom saying you gotta stop renting
Right.
Do you own the whole buildingor do you own your own?
Condo Please please Thank you.
No, your own unit.
No, the tips weren't that good.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Fat Willy looks like that and my head fracture.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
The money went to mostly a Toyota Corolla and like
spending it on school and acouple good birthdays from it.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Can I interject here?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I also own a Toyota Corolla.
I did Mine's wrecked, butToyota Corolla three, you're
smart because that's such a goodcar, yeah, yeah.
So another thing.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
I'm just saying Another thing, that's the third
thing.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, my parents were just like you're buying our car
from us with your suing money.
I was like, okay, like anothernon.
It's like, all right, let's goSure, let's take your reliable
car and spend money.
I don't want to spend on it,but you know your parents are
good parents will talk you intobuying a sensible car.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Rather than the stupid car I probably would have
bought, yeah, and then so youbought this place.
I bought the place and I wentinto every single problem.
You know, you name it.
I've had fight.
What am I?
When I was a kid I saw thisnews story.
Yeah, and they're like, oh,neighbors who hate each other
and what they'll do.
I was like that's the worstthing.

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I would hate to live nextsomeone, next with people.
I hate, oh boy Right.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
And then you did that .
Did I know that'd?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
be my life.
Wow, things die out.
You know nothing.
I mean, I have been like sortof assaulted and blocked in my
left drive from not going towork because they had questions
and someone memorized myschedule and knew when I left
the house and totallyinterrogated me and just
wouldn't let me leave and trapme.
Sure, these things happened.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
This was a neighbor, yeah yeah, or in your building,
in my building.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
yes, I don't know I won't name names, but also you
know that's just one out ofthousands of stories.
I mean knocking on my door,just being like I've saved this
person's life from killingthemselves in the garage, and no
thanks at all, because theyprobably don't remember.
Um, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha.

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But you know it's hard to provemental illness Like.
Some people are just like, yeah, a real Conti bitch asshole who
says they want to punch you inthe face because they're really
tough from the South Side, yeah,um.
And if someone says, oh, I knowthis, it just knows everything,
it's just really frustrating.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
But what I realized?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, what have you learned?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I learned that I love this person more than almost
anyone.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Because nobody made me read dumb documents and work
so hard than this person.
I have learned so much fromthis person's hate.
I knew right away they hatedgay people and they also hated
women, like that internal womanthat hates women Right.
Like, oh, can you just have himdo it in the building?
I'm like, what are you talkingabout?
Like he doesn't want to do it.

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He's like it's just.
It's just like a woman can't doanything and like, but I've
never.
I've never learned so much.
I like you don't really learnfrom people you love Learn from
people you hate All the legalese

Speaker 3 (52:30):
of how to deal with and the shitty neighbors.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I never thought I know about real estate law.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I never thought I'd read anything that had to do
with it.
I'm a kid for life no, not whenit comes to this person.
This person I am on top Causethey you know they people will
throw things at you and sayyou're doing something wrong.
Or like oh, that's tuck pointingyou needed to get a permit.
Oh, by the way, this is hisperson's voice in my head.
Hmm, um, they probably soundexactly like that, but then I

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look, they'll look it up andlike no, if the job's only under
50 square feet, you actuallydon't need to get a permit.
That's a lie.
You know, you look up things youjust want to look up Like
someone, and that's what Ilearned and I definitely think
and I've dealt with weaking,I've dealt with horrible things
I never thought I could handleand I used to be so scared all

(53:25):
the time Like I don't know.
They said this, and now there'sa lawyer and they said that
people just throw fire.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh, all the time, but it's not hot All the time you
know they don't got everything.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
They just want to scare you Cause they haven't
read those things, they don'tknow what the hell they're
talking about most of the time.
And yeah, and don't listen tosomeone that just says, no,
don't do that, because I didthat once and it didn't really
work out.
Well find it out for yourself.
Also, get so many estimates.
Everyone gives you freeestimates.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Right and.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I got to say 80% of the people I talked to during
estimates.
Some of them I've learned a lotfrom.
Some people see things thatother people don't see.
Oh, the leak isn't coming fromthis brick, this window up here.
You see, you just shut that.
You need to get the windowfixed.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
You just saved me.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
There's so many things you learn from different
people all the time.
Now I know about property Justby getting tons of estimates,
dealing with a bunch of garbagepeople that will scare you and
guess what, If I'm not in theentertainment world, if I can
make money by entertainment, Iwill do it.
That's the dream Any type ofentertainment.

(54:34):
But I love real estate becausesometimes I show off property.
What I love is showing off anapartment because I get to be a
game show host.
So I do have dreams of maybebeing a realtor or maybe showing
apartments.
That's my.
I would love to do that all day.
Get in your game show host gearand this is your new living

(54:56):
room.
What would your game show hostgear?
Well, you get well, if you saw,I came in with a really nice
coat that is like a blazer.
I did Probably winter turtlenecks, stuff like that.
Oh, it's all preppy, don't comeup with the whole tie.
And I love this Leasy Carsmansales look.
But you can't do too much.

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You got to be sensible.
And I notice a lot of realestate people.
They always look shiny andclean, too shiny, sometimes Too
shiny, that's fine.
I love trying too hard.
Oh, you do, I love trying toohard.
I think I'd make a greatsalesperson.
I think it's the only thingoutside like my big fun, money

(55:37):
making, entertainment dreams.
I just I think it's just areally fun showing someone an
apartment and then we're likeI'd love to live here.
It's like you win you have topay for it.
Everybody would, but like I justthink it's really fun to show
people a life they want.
You know I've dealt with.
There is one apartment in thebuilding that is my ex's unit

(56:03):
that she bought after she boughtanother unit and I've helped
people every single time someonewent through a breakup.
I call it the heartbreak hoteland this is the easiest unit to
sell, because a lot of friendsare like do you have a place to
live?
I'm like, yeah, I just havethis unit available.
It's not always available, butit's available today.
And they're like I'll take it.

(56:26):
Cause breakups you got.
I did that.
Yeah, I broke up with along-term boyfriend and I had to
move very quickly.
Yeah, and I got a little tinyapartment for me and my two cats
.
Yes, you need a sensible, goodcause.
I'm not about I hate peoplethat gouge people for rent.
Yeah, I, you got a good renter.
You don't raise that rent youkeep that person right there.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
And also people that overcharge can kiss my ass.
Chicago is so cool because ithas a very good bid section.
Like you can make a reasonableamount of money, still get an
appetizer and a dinner.
Sometimes you have some drinksand you can live a good life.
I think places like SanFrancisco I'm like good you.
You should go down the way yougouged everyone Now everyone's

(57:12):
homeless or everyone's rich.
Your middle class is wherewhere a good city comes in.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Chicago has that in spades.
And that's and that's what Ilove.
And I think people whoovercharge tenants and raise
rent every year, she reallythink about.
You know if they're I'm notreally scared of attorney, but
sometimes being raised Catholic,I am think about it.
There is one of my albumscalled Rent a Place in Hell.
You might want to think aboutrenting yourself, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, it's a, it's, it's all.
It's always a balance.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Do you think about ever like purchasing more
property so that you can because you have so much in
institutional knowledge now youhave so much knowledge about
what it means to be a landlordand an owner and fixing all
these crazy things that happen.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
And you seem to be kind of into it.
Well, my partner, we're gettingmarried in March.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yeah, so our next deal.
Nice.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Oh no, not partner fiance.
It's such a cool term, Might aswell use it while I can.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, we want to definitely buy a house in the
city.
I don't, sorry, I'll wait itout.
I'm not going to the suburbs, Iam a city.
No, yeah, I'm going to.
Yeah, so we'll hopefully findsomething and maybe I'll go to
Be Kind Realty or some otherplace.
But yeah, I'm definitelylooking, cause I hopefully don't

(58:36):
need to rent a practice spaceanymore.
I've been doing that forever.
Oh yeah, shout out to RydenCarroll, which is also a Franco
Lloyd Wright building, believeit or not.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah, and that's the point.
If you go outside you can seeit, but I've been there forever.
George never raises his rent.
That's why everyone loves him.
He's nice.
And he has 24 hour security.
But I would love to be able toplay a drum set in my house,
yeah.
That is one of my goals and ifI can get an indoor pool and hot
tub, well, let's say I'mstaying, Cause I went to the.

(59:04):
I love going to the Sibiris andthe indoor pool.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
That is just like.
This is my new life now.
This is my new goal.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
My new goal is indoor pool with the TV hot tub on the
side and I get to play as muchmusic in the house.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You want to house with an indoor pool.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah Well, if I'm going to live in Chicago, I mean
I gotta be indoors.
I love water aerobics.
I think it's great and youdrink some beer and you watch
some.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Get it all done.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Yeah, my wife likes water aerobics.
She does handstands.
She has really good handstandsin the pool.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Congratulations.
Yeah, that's her big thing.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
She aspires for our children to be synchronized
swimmers.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
That's no joke.
Is it going to swim in thisheart?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
They're not going to be.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Oh, you, never.
Now they will cause they'regoing to hear this podcast and
be like fuck you.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I am going to show you Would you keep your, your,
your it is a condo.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
It is a trust.
It's a condo.
It's a condo, it's a condo.
It technically is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I know you're apologizing for it, but it's a
condo.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
No, I just want people to know that apartments,
cause I remember people at FatWillys who like oh so what's the
apartment number?
It's a condo, yeah, Okay.
What is it Tubi?
Yeah, it's like it's like okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I cause sometimes when you think condo and you're
delivering, you're looking for acertain style of buildings that
like have that streamline whereit's just like yeah, yeah, it's
apartment, yeah, it'stechnically a non-for-profit
condo association.
Right right right, it's the bigstress wall that I never
thought I'd learn from, andmaybe I might rent it out.

(01:00:45):
You should rent it out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
She keeps on going.
Yeah, I know, I should keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
You've already been through the shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, I've already been through the shit I've
already.
You know I had to replace theback porch.
I did no-transcript.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Why did you have to do so much on?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
one condo when you live in a building, usually the
association has people thathandle that, no no, because you
were on the board.
No, we're self-managed.
Oh you're self-managed.
Got it Like let's say, if thereis a big dead cat that's my
downstairs neighbor, he's thedude that does that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I mean, I had a squirrel living inside my wall
because he decides to feedsquirrels one.
So I was like, hey, let's notfeed squirrels anymore.
Guess what it was living in mywall.
And they're like, no, notunless it's in your apartment.
Can we do anything?
You call these people.
They're just going to use thetrust.
But if there's dead animals oranimals that's someone else's.

(01:01:42):
If there's a bunch of stupidcrap to do, that's me, my
ex-girlfriend.
She's the president, she's verygood at typing stuff.
She does basically all thewording for everything, which is
a big job, and I hate emails.
But I'm calling people.
Yeah, they don't know what Ilook like.
I can act as sexy as I want.

(01:02:02):
Hi, I'm looking for an estimateand they're like be right over
here, I love playing the girlcard.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
And then they come over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
They see me like damn it, bounce will be nice Well
you know whatever.
It's, just the phone voice isfun.
But I don't know anything.
But I'd love if you could comeby and give me an estimate and I
pay you for what you're goingto do for someone else, but it

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was my.
My aluminum sign was a hugeproblem because we had a big
hole in our.
It was awful from a squirrelcoming.
Oh my God.
Anyway, I had every problem,like it's, but you could.
You could still do it, people.
So I called Felco.
I was like, oh, and they cameout and they're like hey, listen

(01:02:57):
, we can take care of this andwe're going to do this, this and
that.
Months and months go by.
Guys, stop talking to me.
I already gave the down payment.
They hide from me.
They're like we can't do it,your building's too high.
I was like, but I had peoplemeasure twice and blah, blah,
blah, blah.
And I, you know, I was likethis is ridiculous, like we know
it's ridiculous.
I was like you suck.
And then I look at the betterbusiness bureau.

(01:03:19):
They're not on there.
I thought Felco, just becausethe way they talked in the
commercials they're huge yeah.
Nope, they're not very good,they're good for, like, a
smaller project.
And then I called anothercompany.
Well, one's really good, one'sreally bad.
So I can't really say and thenthey're like we can totally do
it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
No problem.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
And then they, they even drop off the supplies.
I'm like it's happening.
They're like can't do it, it'stoo high.
I'm like someone measured andlike we fired the guy that
measured.
I was like, and then like weneed to pick up our equipment.
I was like, well, I won't behome, I won't be.
I wait for the equipment to getreally rained on before they
come back.
And boy, they were rude.
Some kid was blasting somestupid music.

(01:04:00):
I was like, don't do that.
And they picked up theequipment and I made sure that
the guy.
I was like, why can't you do it?
It's like man, man, you'rebeing a little rude.
I go excuse me, miss.
And he was like, oh, I was like, yeah, oh, man, me the death.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
I'm crazy Use my name .

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
You know my name.
It's probably written down on ascreen.
Look at it.
It's hard for me to rememberyour name, but yeah, I talked to
everyone from that company.
And then, finally, some real,real superheroes came, and they
did it in the middle of winter,on these things hopping and they
did it.
So that was annoying and I hadto have people believe in like

(01:04:40):
no, we still need to do thesighting.
And I had to go through thefailures and telling everybody,
hey, whoops, sorry, that was thewrong company again.
But, I had to get the sightingdone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I had to, and it's not 100% cosmetic, like some
people say.
It actually protects you?
No, it's very poor the housewrap is not enough, and yes, I
know that word.
Trust me, little me would neverthink I'm talking about
sighting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
That's what my parents thought of that, tyvex.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I love it.
Humble Park you have been therea long time.
You've seen some changes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
You know what I one change I haven't seen.
I'm very glad I haven't seen it.
Kids playing outside oh, theydo.
All the time I've seen kidsplaying outside I like it's
still like I always play on thestreets growing up and like in
the no, kids still play outsideNice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
It's so great and people they know you, my
next-door neighbor is one of myheroes and he takes all my cans
and he recycles them.
He brings them and it getsmoney from him and sometimes he
brings me Miller light to thankme for the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Oh, that's nice, that's community.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
That's, really that's everyone working together to
recycle and train.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Yeah, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
That's a circular economy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
That's a buzzword right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
But I did notice.
You know, you got your dumbHumble Park McMansions coming up
, which is like, hey, not sodumb, I live there in a
heartbeat, but it's also, Idon't like the same floor plan.
I see all the time, which is alittle frustrating, but I'm sure
hey, I'm sure it's great tolive in.
I've seen not too many changes,but I do notice that if you

(01:06:28):
live somewhere long enough,people, people know, know who
you are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, and the community kind of grows around
you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Yeah, I was being too nice at first.
I was like, yeah, sure, I waslike I'm going to play football
with you and everything.
And then all of a sudden, kidsstarted ringing my bell.
I was like listen.
I love kids, I can't be thatadults I don't.
You know like I can't like justplay with you, can't call like
sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
And then I'm like can I get a beer?
I was like no.
No, some kids are like give mea dollar.
No.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
No no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
He's like you, better vote for Obama.
I was like, of course I votedfor Obama.
Calm down.
Like the kids are feisty, Ilove them.
There's nothing like kids.
I think they're so hilarious.
I it's.
It's a great neighborhood.
It's a food desert.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
But sometimes that dumb church, church for the
hurting Guess who's hurting, Idon't know.
We need a jewel Oscar there,like no tomorrow.
And then, because it has toomany churches, and to build
another big church, a tax exemptchurch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I.
I'm sure it's great to have agraduation there because it's so
big, yeah, but the parking lotis huge and mostly empty.
It takes up a lot of space andit's just a huge corner that is
tax exempt and if I'm ever thepresident of the United States,
I will tax churches Not allchurches the same.

(01:07:58):
Yeah, it will go on an incomelevel.
Some churches I probably won'ttax if they do certain things
for their, yeah, whatever.
But I'm like no wonder whythings don't always get taken
care of.
There's so much beautifulchurches already there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Like gorgeous church churches.
I mean then the park is amazing.
We don't need a new church thatdoesn't look as gorgeous as the
other churches.
Right, and the other churchesdo lots of work in there, Like
have marches, like really care,have music outside.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
So yeah, um, that was a change.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Yeah, I didn't like it yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I was in a neighborhood in Oak Park that
just on the street and theyhaven't paid taxes in like 10
years because there used to belike a pastor or something that
lived in the house and it'szoned or coded in some way.
Wow, that they just it's a taxexempt something or another.
But since then people have,like another person has bought

(01:08:57):
the place, it's just a regularperson.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Wow, you know, affiliated with any church
Hasn't changed.
The records have not changed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
It's just, they're just like well, we're not
getting taxed, so we're notgoing to pay taxes, oh boy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Can't blame them for that, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
They can't complain about the plows being slowly
there, that's right, but there'snothing a lot more than seeing
a church converted into a nicecondo association that pays
money to go to go into where youlive, the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
And you think a church would be like no, let's,
please, let's pay taxes so wecan help the schools and
everything.
You would think it's just weird.
Sure, maybe I'm angry at mychurch upbringing.
Maybe, I'm angry about theanti-gay, but everyone who's
telling you not to be gay is gaythemselves and hiding.
Maybe I got some issues, but Ijust think, hey, church is,

(01:09:57):
unless you're, if you're, a soupkitchen right no taxes.
No taxes.
In fact let's drop some foodoff Right From the money we get
from the church.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
But you need a.
You need a grocery store.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
We need.
We have, I think, sir Max.
Amazing, but the parking lot'sfull.
The produce is awesome, but Ithink we also need some like
another one.
Don't all the other neighborscould get two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yeah, sometimes three , yeah, sometimes four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, we had we had a CVS and when I first moved
there, huge parking lot rightoff division and grant.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
You could buy beer there, oh my God.
Then they decided out, thisarea shouldn't be drinking beer,
so they cut it off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Not kidding, just the beer, just the liquor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
They're like, no, shouldn't have it here, and then
now we don't have it at all.
But apparently the grocerystore across the street which is
also a really fun, good grocerystore, but still so small, like
you have your products you want.
You want to be able to buy themayonnaise of not just one brand
.
You want to choose between 10brands and, god damn right, you

(01:11:10):
should.
In America I think they arekind of yeah, absolutely yeah,
land of the free home with abrave and choice, but I think
they started their face to be toexpand to the new CVS.
Okay, yeah, so that was cool,all right, and we had a blast.

(01:11:32):
It says now something else.
So things are moving andshaking, but the park is
priceless.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
It is so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
It's such a nice walk , everybody wants to go to the
park, except they built thesebatting cages and they're always
locked up and I don't know howto use them.
And whenever I talk to somebodyin the department about using
them, nobody knows how to getinto these batting cages located
off a Kedzie between divisionand a gust of spooky music.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Maybe I thought you were being an owl.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Oh yeah, that's an owl.
I was on a good spooky music,so I'm throwing it out there.
If anyone knows how to usethose batting cages, I am.
I love batting cages.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Okay, shout out to anyone who knows how to open up
the batting cages.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yeah, call us on our hotline
1-800-RecordsTheRealEstatecom.
Marybeth, yes, thank you verymuch for being here today.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Yeah, had a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
It was a lot of fun conversations and yeah, well,
you know you're hired.
Whenever you want to get intoreal estate, Just let us know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
In a couple of years I want to go head on into real
estate.
Yeah, we'll be here, Get yourleasing agent license.
Man that's easy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, we need some help with that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Just some showings Heard.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
You can bring your, you can wear your blazer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
You could wear a chicken suit for all I care.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, I was like, of course you want a blazer, just
get it rented.
That's like the best thing foranyone in real estate, don't
they give you a blazer?
Yeah, just start you have ablazer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, okay, yeah, we should get some blazers.
Be realty green, just like that, that's fine.
Thanks again, Marybeth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Thank you, thank you, thanks for the future job.
Yeah, karen, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
We talked with Marybeth about Toyota Corollas.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Why is dependability so important?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Oh my God, have you ever broke down when you really
just can't afford to have abreakdown?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I mean, are we talking about cars?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Yeah, oh, when have you broken down on a human level
, crying, or however that is?

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
When you could afford to break down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
No, when you couldn't afford to break down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Oh, when can you afford to break down on a human
level?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yeah, Well, actually you know what I'm going to have
a little tangent here, but it'srelated.
You were talking to me theother day.
No, Dan was talking.
Our co-worker Dan was talkingto me the other day and you
could tell he was kind of havinga down day a little bit and
this guy is like rosy sunshine,always seeing the positive,
always just gung-ho, Really coolguy and you could tell he was

(01:14:09):
having a little bit of a roughtime and he said that he talked
to you and he was talking to youabout the fact that as human
beings we try so hard to justmaintain all the time, to keep
everything on track, to keep ourlives together, our families
together, our whatever our jobson track.
Just, we're trying, trying allthe time.

(01:14:30):
And he's like sometimes thingsgo off track and it wrecks your
fucking world.
It rocks you.
And then you try desperately tohow am I getting this train back
on track?
And he said he talked to youand you said something to the
effect of like well, why notjust let it go off the track and
see what happens?

(01:14:51):
And it really like it was amoment for him and he thought it
was.
It was kind of a lightning boltor a light bulb went off and he
was like wow, because when hethought about it, when you let
your life go off track, that isreally a glimmer when you let,
when your life goes off trackbecause life there's very little

(01:15:11):
you can control- in your lifeas a human.
That those are the times whenyou're tested the most, that you
learn the most, that yourealize who your friends are,
you realize what you can rely on, what you can't you, you, you
tap into your own inner reserves, your inner strength.
There's all these things thatcome out of those things of

(01:15:32):
derailing the train, beingderailed, whether you're doing
it on purpose or you're justletting it happen, or that you
can't help it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
And it just does.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
And so I've been thinking about that a lot.
Oh nice, yeah, so ToyotaCorollas are very dependable.
I have mine, and it is from2001, and I drove it across the
country, from California, overthe mountains, through deserts,

(01:16:01):
you know, when it had 150, somethousand miles on it, and it got
me here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Yeah, now I love that .
Yeah, I have my own backupcards at my parents' house,
right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
And I get in there and I talk to it.
It's called Baby.
That's funny and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I'm like how are you doing baby?
Because we just interviewedMary Beth from the Baby Magic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
From the Baby Magic.
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
It's all going together.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Anyway.
So that's why Toyota Corolla.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Nice.
Well, I do think that you needthose elements of dependability
in your life because, as yousaid, inevitably your life's
going to go off track and it'snice to have something to rely
on, like a good Toyota Corolla.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
What are your dependabilities in your life?
What do you feel like?
Are your rocks?

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Well.
I think, the people in my lifeare my dependabilities.
You know, my wife and you andmy family, my wife's family, I
think you know our company hassort of become a dependability.
I mean, it's certainlyweathered some storms and seen

(01:17:06):
ups and downs in real estate andyet here we are, and I think
you know kind of bringing thisfull circle.
I mean, mary Beth talks abouther band and it's been around
since 2003.
And I don't know if sheactually said this when we're
interviewing her on air, but youknow it's been through several

(01:17:28):
iterations and it's obviouslysuper important for her and, you
know, becomes an outlet andshe's full of creativity and
passion and you know, so we dohave to have those Toyota
Corollas in our life in order toyou know, get through.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
That's right, all right Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
This has been an episode of Records in Real
Estate.
Thanks for listening.
We hope you enjoyed it.
Today's episode was brought toyou by Be Realty.
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