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If you’ve ever struggled with codependency, people-pleasing, or the heaviness of wanting to fix what isn’t yours to fix. Have you ever wanted something so badly for someone you love… but knew deep down you couldn’t make them choose it? That ache — the one we feel when we care so deeply — is where Soul Recovery begins.
In this episode, I’m reflecting on Mel Robbins’ Let Them Theory and why it resonates so powerfully with what we’ve been practicing together in Soul Recovery. This isn’t just about letting go — it’s about learning to detach with love, to release control not from apathy, but from deep spiritual trust.
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Rev Rachel Harrison (00:00):
Have you read Mel Robbins' new book Let
them Theory?
If you haven't, I highlysuggest it.
I just finished listening to itfor the second time and wanted
to share on the podcast becauseit aligns so beautifully with
what we've been working on forsix seasons about learning how
to let go of control and thepower of loving detachment.
Let them is loving detachmentand let me is taking your power
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back.
So we're going to talk aboutlet them, from the soul recovery
perspective.
Enjoy the episode.
Welcome to the Recover your Soulpodcast a spiritual path to a
happy and healthy life.
My name is Reverend RachelHarrison.
I started Recover your Soulafter having profound changes in
my life from my recovery ofalcoholism, codependency and
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control addiction.
I was guided to share the toolsand principles of spirituality
and soul recovery to help otherstransform their lives, as mine
was transformed.
For us to overcome externalcircumstances, we need to turn
the attention to ourselves,focusing on our inner change and
healing.
Positive results in our liveswill follow.
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Welcome to the Recovery SoulPodcasting Community.
I'm Rev Rachel.
Thank you so much for choosingin onto your spiritual path to a
happy and healthy life.
We are going to talk about theMel Robbins book, the Let them
Theory because it aligns sobeautifully and so deeply with
what we've been doing for yearsin soul recovery that I couldn't
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help, after reading it for thesecond time or listening to it
as I do the second time recently, to talk about it together,
because any tool that we can getto help deepen our
understanding is a tool that weshould pick up and use, because
we are here to let go ofcodependence, to let go of
people pleasing, to release allthose old patterns that no
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longer serve us and step intoour full, authentic selves to
live a happy and healthy life.
That's why we're here, and Iknow that, for me, every time
that I have another book oranother podcast or another
YouTube video or something thatI listen to, that just deepens
what resonates so truly withinme of my knowing of who I am and
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how to be in the world, bychoosing love over fear, by
choosing an open heart andcompassionate way of being from
a empowered place that I justwant more and more and more of
that.
And I listened to the book forthe second time this weekend
while Rich and I were driving toand from Santa Fe, and it was
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fun to listen to it with him andhave conversations about it,
because we're in this journey oftruly learning how to step into
this place of our wholeness andwhat I love about this
particular podcast that I heardof hers two years ago.
I looked it up that she hadfirst aired her first Let them
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Theory episode where she talkedabout she had a kid who had gone
to prom and she was trying todetermine where they should go
eat and somebody just said whyare you getting your nose in
this?
Just let them.
And then I did a podcast thatwas around that and that concept
of detachment and since thenmillions and millions and
millions and millions of peoplelistened to that particular
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episode and she has since thenpropelled to the number one
podcast in the world, which Ithink is fabulous, because the
detachments episodes continue tobe my top podcast too, because
we are all learning how to letgo of control.
We are on a really like anawakening as a society of
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learning how to just let them,that our peace is really held
within ourselves, in our abilityto let go of control, and
loving detachment is such afoundational piece of that.
And you just think about youknow, melody Beatty.
When she first wrote Codependentno More.
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I read somewhere that she hadno idea that the book would blow
up the way that it did, becausepeople were hungry for that.
We're hungry for that in andyou think, oh my God, how am I
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going to get my husband to quitdrinking or my son to quit
drinking or my daughter to quitdrinking?
And you walk in and somebodysays, yeah, that's happening.
And here's what we can offeryou in your healing these tools
that we're learning aboutrecognizing that there are
things happening outside ofourself that feel overwhelming,
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things happening outside ofourself that feel overwhelming,
that feel out of control.
But the more that we grasp andcling and try to make anything
happen, the more we are harmingourselves.
And so when I first got the bookthe Let them Theory on my
Audible and Rich actuallylistened to the beginning of it
when he was driving, when wewere in California for the birth
of our grandson Rocky and, asmany of you know, if you've been
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listening to the podcast for awhile, I've been married for 31
years now 34 years together,something like that.
We've been together forever andI don't really share with Rich
all of the soul recovery stuffbecause he asked me a long time
ago to stop coaching him.
And so I have a relationshipwith him where we share
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spirituality and we share someof the concepts, but he doesn't
actually even know what the ninestep soul recovery process is,
because it's not mine to tellhim.
Right, it's my journey that I'mhaving within myself, right?
So it's the just let him havehis own spiritual journey, which
has been a big piece of ourhealing, our relationship.
So I remember that he came backfrom that drive and he was like
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, oh, I started listening to MelRobbins.
She's so great, gosh, just letthem.
And I laughed because I said,yeah, isn't it?
I mean, this is what I've beentalking about in soul recovery
for five years.
We're in our sixth season.
And he laughed.
He said, yeah, you're probablyright, I should probably learn
more about what soul recovery isin the first place.
But that is actually an exampleof using the concepts and the
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principles of just let them, ofnot being in control, of not
being hurt.
You know, and when I listenedto the book the first time by
myself, and how beautifully shetells stories about herself and
of people in her life and sheuses research, she brings on
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guests to really research theseconcepts and to deepen this
awareness from a psychological,from a science aspect.
This is why I think everybodyshould listen to or read this
book that's doing soul recovery,because she has more
information that will help piecetogether what I've been talking
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about too, because for me,we're on a spiritual journey.
This is a deeper, internalspiritual connection to
something greater still.
But the process that she talksabout in the book, about really
the active guidance, the action,action steps and the examples
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of how you can detach and justlet them are such beautiful
reminders of how insidious it is, in so many different areas of
our life, for us to control andgrasp and try to make it be
different, and how it's causingus our own misery.
It's causing us our own misery,right?
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I pulled a couple quotes outand she says if people want to
go, let them.
If they want to choosesomething that doesn't align
with you, let them.
If they misunderstand you, letthem.
This is a mindset that's aradical act of self love and non
attachment, and we aren'ttrained this way.
This isn't how we were set up.
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We were set up in society tolearn to control and to take
charge and to fix and to makethings be different.
Are you ready to step into yoursoul recovery.
Visit the websiterecoveryoursoulnet to learn more
about the nine-step soulrecovery process.
I hope that you'll join us thefirst Monday of every month for
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the free soul recovery supportgroup on Zoom, where we learn
more about soul recovery andconnect with each other.
If you'd like to work directlywith me to move through the
nine-step soul recovery process,I'm here for you, but you can
also choose to work the steps onyour own, with individual
modules intended to support youto work at your own pace and on
your own time.
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Back to the episode.
Well, what I want to lean intoin the book that was really
impactful to me, that she talksa lot about, especially at the
end of the book, which is whenyou have people who are doing
things that are not good forthem, and she uses the example
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of a friend of hers who has ahusband who is out of shape and
overweight and is not makinghealthy choices, and what I
actually thought was reallyfunny about this was it actually
reflected opposite.
In my life.
Rich has always been super fitand for him, like if he doesn't
get enough physical activity orexercise, it plays out in his
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life.
That's one of the reasons whyhe likes to surf and stand a
paddleboard or mountain bike orwhatever it is that he's doing,
and his work that he does isvery physically demanding and he
likes that because he issomebody who needs to get his
energy out that way.
I've never been like that.
I've never been into exercise.
There have been seasons of mylife where I worked out mostly
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out of vanity, to be honest, andnot out of some sort of health
thing and while I'm doing it,there's no part of me that
thinks, oh, this is so great.
All I'm thinking the whole timeis is the class almost over?
When is the walkover?
How much more time do I have?
I've never really been into it.
So, as she's talking about thisstory, I feel like it's Rich and
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I, but it's Rich is the wifeand I'm the one who's not as
healthy, and I've shared withyou over the years that this has
been something where Rich hastried all the different things
to try to make me be differentand for a long time I actually
thought that what he was sayingwas I don't love you being full
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figured.
I'm not attracted to you.
I will love you more if youlook like this or this or this
or this.
Those are actually my insidestories that I tell myself,
because when we would have moreconversations, his conversations
were always around.
No, I just want you to behealthy, like you're my favorite
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person and I want you to be inmy life forever and I don't want
you to be in pain and I don'twant you to have illness or
disease, like I want us to havea healthy life.
As I'm listening to this MelRobbins book and she's gotten
through a whole bunch of greatchapters there's just so many
chapters I'm not really going todo a good job on it, because I
really am thinking of thisparticular chapter and she gets
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to this place where you havesomebody who is doing something
that is unhealthy and theresponse in in soul recovery as
well is you're powerless.
Step two in soul recovery isyou're powerless over every
single thing outside of yourself.
And our attempt to control isan illusion that we think that
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we can control anything in thefirst place.
But when we attempt to control,that's where our pain and
suffering comes from, becausewe're consumed with this desire
to make something be different.
And I believe the name of thischapter was people only change
when they want to, and this partof us recognizing that really,
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the only change that anybodyever makes is when they decide
they're going to change.
And she actually has greatscience in it that explains,
like, how our brains work andthat we all think we're the
exception.
Right, like I'm not exercising,I'm not working on my heart
health, I'm not breathing heavyor doing anything that's
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extraneous exercise.
I do think I'm the exception,that I won't be the one that has
heart disease, I won't be theone that has something wrong
with me because, you know, I'mspiritually fit.
And this psychology that sheshared with the truth that
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everybody thinks that they'rethe exception was fabulous
because it explains even morehow we are as human beings.
But it also is the part wherethe other person is pushing so
hard and when we push, there'sno other choice than for the
person to push back, the moreover the years that Rich has
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pushed me to eat different orguilted me or shamed me.
He's tried all the things.
He's tried all the things, andthe more he moves into those
unhealthy patterns, which havestopped.
A couple years ago they stopped, but the more he was in those
places, the more resistant I was.
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And it reminds me actually ofwhen I was drinking too, because
when I was drinking, anybodywho pointed out my level of
drinking, even if they werecoming from concern, my first
response was well, I'm certainlynot going to share it with you,
or I'm not going to drinkaround you, or I'm not going to
be friends with you anymore,because you're protecting this
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part of yourself that alreadycarries its own shame.
And so this ability to just letthem allows people to be in
their own experience.
And she doesn't talk about itfrom a spiritual perspective,
she just talks about it from ahuman being mindset perspective.
That I thought was so great,the more that she explains about
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how just letting them,detaching with love, frees you
up from your own pain andsuffering.
And then she has the let me,which is the empowerment, taking
your power back that we talkabout in soul recovery, and this
in soul recovery is actuallystep five, which is releasing
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the old patterns that no longerserve us.
So when we release people,pleasing, caretaking, rescuing
these are the old patterns thatwe've been holding onto and
they're keeping us from livingour most authentic, healthiest
self.
And then we use detachment, weuse releasing those belief
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systems that it's our job to fixor change, and then we move
into our most authentic self,which is our let me, which is
stepping into your new beliefsand stories, which is step six
in soul recovery.
Step into a belief and patternsthat align with your higher
self and your updatedperceptions.
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Every time that we let them,the immediate response is how am
I going to show up?
What am I going to do?
Here?
And in this example that shegave of the wife who has a
husband who isn't making goodchoices, she shares that that
husband.
Of course he doesn't want to beoverweight.
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Of course he wants to behealthier.
Same with me.
I don't particularly care to be20 pounds overweight or to not
be in the physical shape that Iwant to.
I've already got my own layersof shame around it.
I certainly don't need someoneelse to layer that shame on me
as well.
Well, the same thing goes formy kids and their addiction or
Rich, when he was drinking,which is why I didn't put a lot
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of energy around if he wasdrinking or not, because it
wasn't a deal breaker for me.
The deal breaker would havebeen if he was really drinking
and was in behaviors that didn'twork.
For me, the deal breaker wouldhave been if he was really
drinking and was in behaviorsthat didn't work for me.
But his addiction is hisjourney to have.
And when we can use theseconcepts of really seeing the
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importance of letting otherpeople have their own experience
and the release that we feeland the freedom that we feel by
truly understanding that it'snot ours to decide or do for
them, then we have moreexperience, more bandwidth, more
energy, more like reallyability to step into our own
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healing, our own journey, ourown awareness, into our own
healing, our own journey, ourown awareness, and be present
with ourself for our ownrecovery, our soul recovery.
What she talks about in thebook is how letting them
sometimes means that it's a dealbreaker.
It's a deal breaker in, maybe,a marriage, right.
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You're truly letting somebodybe fully who they are and in
that it really lights up thereality that that doesn't work
for you, that their choices aregoing to make it so that it just
doesn't align, and that's okayIn the end.
Rich loves me, but he's notgoing to leave me because I
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don't like to exercise, but hewill still choose for himself.
What I watched him do, which Iwanted to talk about, that she
talks about in the book, whichis what we can do in the just
let me or in our empowermentplace of ourself, is we model
and live from the way that thisworks in our lives.
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And what we want to reflect andthis is what I've been sharing
with you in soul recovery for along time which is be the change
that you want to see.
But you are not the change thatyou want to see in an attempt
to control them.
You are the change that youwant to see, knowing that it is
really the only way to createchange, because the only way
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that people change is if theythink it's their idea, which she
does such a beautiful job inthe book of truly sharing how,
if somebody wants to get sober,even if you bring it to them,
they will only really get soberif, in their heart and in their
mind, they're ready and it'stheir idea to save themselves.
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If they're saving themselvesfor you, they might be having
the actions, they might be goingthrough the system, they might
be going to treatment, theymight not be drinking, but
they're not actually healingbecause they do not and are not
ready to heal.
And if I look at where I am inmy health journey, rich has
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completely stopped trying tocontrol anything that I'm doing
and teases sometimes if we'relike having a dessert or
something like that, and youknow, he's like, well, I guess
we're on the sugar wagon now orwhatever it is, but it's not
mean.
But I'm actually starting tosay to myself, without him
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pushing me and him actuallymaking his, he won't eat certain
things.
He's like, oh, I don't eat that.
Actually making his, he won'teat certain things.
He's like, oh, I don't eat that.
He doesn't say we don't eatthat, or I don't want you to eat
that.
He says, okay, no, thanks, I'm,I don't eat that anymore.
And it's inspired me.
I'm actually starting to thinkto myself maybe I shouldn't eat
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that, or I really doesn't feelas good when I have that much
sugar, or I really do want to bemore fit and I'm making that
decision for myself, and any ofyou who have been on this
journey with me in the podcastfor a long time know this is a
long time journey for me, andthis decision that I'm making in
how to take care of myself goesmuch deeper than whether I'm
going to exercise or not.
There is still a beliefunderneath, around my value of
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who I am that needs to beaddressed and given love from me
, and that is something that isso powerful in the just let me
part of any of these detachmentsthat we're working on, the
really embodying our whole selfpart, where, when we let go of
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everybody else, we're left withour own being.
We're left with the knowledgethat we really can't change them
, nor should we, nor should wetry to control it, nor should we
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try to control it.
And at the same time, how do weattend to ourselves?
How do we truly step in and sayis this a deal breaker or not?
And in the book, the answer wasthat, for this woman, not a
deal breaker.
She loves her husband If thisis the body or the choices that
he is going to make.
Not a deal breaker.
And this goes for a lot of usthat are looking around in the
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Al-Anon world or in theaddiction world, and for one
person, their partner's drinkingmay not be a deal breaker and
for someone else, total dealbreaker.
These are the choices that weget to make, because the let
them part is the most importantpart, the detachment part,
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because that often means thatyou're actually watching
somebody do things that areharmful and hurtful to them and,
of course, we love them and wewish they would make different
choices.
Your friend group change overtime or let your co workers be
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who they are.
Those are really importantaspects for your daily well
being and we can always, always,always stop complaining at
people who and we're driving orbeing pissed at the people in
the checkout line for takingsuch a slow time.
That's going to affect ourlives in a positive way, for
sure, right away.
But these deeper ones, where youhave people in your life that
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you love so much and they'remaking choices that do not
benefit them.
This is really where soulrecovery's greatest teachings of
detachment, forgiveness,compassion, love come into play,
because we have to keep theattention on ourself, to really
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look deeply and honestly at ourown shadow work, our own self
that wants it to change, thathas belief systems about it
being our job, that we are givenheavy responsibility as a child
maybe, and so we're rewarded somuch for being the one that can
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fix everything.
So it's really hard to let goof the belief that it's our job
to fix it.
But that's the soul recoveryoffers is this ability for us to
look more deeply at ourselvesand connect then to our higher
power, to even more into the wooof our spiritual journeys, of
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curiosity of what our souls arehere to learn.
In our curriculum of life hereon earth school, what are we
here to learn?
And if we just let them foreverybody to be on their own
curriculum and we work sodiligently and with such passion
to really come into our fullestself, it will.
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It will inspire others.
Rich's continued love for meeven more deep than ever before.
I feel more comfortable withhim than ever before because he
has stopped judging me andtrying to fix this thing in me.
Well, guess what if you were toask him?
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It's exactly the same on allthe things that I was trying to
fix him on.
It wasn't his drinking, it washis anger, it was his reactivity
, it was how he was treatingAlex, all of these things that I
started letting him be in hisown experience.
Now I will say that I practicesomething that in soul recovery
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in the car on the way down fromSanta Fe, that I think is
important for us in terms ofboundaries and us really being
in the let them and the let me,right in the detachment and self
empowerment space.
Rich has never liked how peopledrive and he's a slow driver,
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he's a careful driver, heusually is driving a big old
pickup truck and it doesn't gothat fast and he gets very
frustrated at the cars zippingaround and cutting off and you
know it, just, it just irks him.
And so we were joking on thetrip about how he could apply
the just let him theory to thedrivers.
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But what I recognized is I wantto just let him be pissed, I
want to just let.
If this is who he is and it'sgoing to piss him off, I've got
to just let him.
But it's his verbalization ofwhat he thinks that is kind of
putting his stickiness on me,right, he's kind of throwing up
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his irritation at them, on me,and so in a more healthier state
of where we are in our livesright now, I said, hey, I have a
request, which is generally howwe start a conversation.
That is, I need to have a hardconversation or this is
something that I need.
And he said, yeah, what's,what's your request?
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And I said, in the nature ofthe, just let them, because
we're listening to the book.
I said I don't want to tell youthat you can't think these
thoughts about these drivers.
It's not how I see it, but Iwant to just let you.
But I need to ask you to keepthat inside of yourself.
I want to just let you have thethoughts.
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But when you say it out loud,as if I'm supposed to agree with
you or I'm supposed to dosomething about it, it makes me
uncomfortable and it puts meback into old patterns where I'm
anxious.
And he said, totally get it, Iagree.
And it was amazing, right,because I could tell that he was
irked at these drivers whilehe's driving.
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But he didn't say it out loudand I got to work on just
letting him be pissed.
Just let him.
Just let him be pissed.
It's okay, those are hisfeelings, he's entitled to those
feelings.
But I asked for what I neededand that was that was movement,
that was strength, that wasmovement when we connect in a
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more healed way with the peoplearound us, from this place of
real grace for where people areand what they need to learn and
where they are on their path andwhere their healing is, and
letting go of control andreclaiming our personal power.
Things shift so profoundlyaround us.
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Mel Robbins says the more I saidlet them, the more I realized
that a lot of what I worriedabout wasn't worth my time, nor
did it deserve my attention.
That's one of her quotes.
We spend so much time andenergy on everybody else.
What are they doing?
What are they saying?
What are they thinking?
Why are they doing that?
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Why are they doing it that way?
They should do it like this.
They should they, they, they,they, they.
And the more energy that we'reputting on the they, they, they,
they, they, the less energy wehave to put on the me, me, me,
me, me, not from the selfish end, but from a empowerment of your
own experience.
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How are you choosing to show up?
How are you choosing to see it?
How can you be supportive in asituation that allows people to
sit in their own discomfortenough to make change?
She also talks beautifully inthe book about how we have to be
so uncomfortable in general tomove the needle.
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You know, I'm certainly notgoing to wait until I'm really
overweight to do something, butI am at a place in my own
discomfort where feelingcrickety and getting up off the
chair after a couple hours andfeeling tight and not
comfortable is becoming enoughfor me to want change.
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And that's come because I'mbeing given space by my husband
to be in my own discomfortwithout shame and my hope in my
children as I let them havethese seasons of sobriety in and
out, have their own lifeexperience.
I'm certainly not throwing themto the wolves and hoping that
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it crashes and burns for them.
I continually see them in thelight.
I send them so much positiveenergy all the time that they
may be surrounded by love andlight and make choices that
align for them.
I do not want them to have to gothrough the incredible depths
of difficulty that I had in mylife, but the truth is they went
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through those already in theirlives.
Maybe they've had enough too.
Can I trust that?
And can I trust that, whateverjourney that they're on, I have
to let them.
I have to let them have thoseexperiences.
But the more healed that we are,the more attuned to who we are,
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the more sovereignty we have inour experience and the more we
turn to love and light andspirituality and the God of your
understanding and source energyin the universe, whatever you
call it the more that you cantrust that everybody's on the
journey that they need to be onfor their own awakening and to
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choose your awakening, becauseyour awakening matters.
And every time you stand fullyand firmly in your light,
choosing love in every moment,the more that that energy
radiates out to those that arein struggle and that they may
potentially choose somethingthat's better for them.
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But we're not here to blocktheir experience.
And at the same time, it givesus more clarity to choose what
are deal breakers for us, tochoose who we want to be aligned
with in our life and torecognize that we're being
called and drawn to.
As she talks about in the book,maybe the best friends we'll
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ever have are yet to come,because we're going to step up
and we're going to engage in ourlife in a way that aligns and
draws those people to us thattruly resonate with who we are,
those people to us that trulyresonate with who we are, and
that's the power of detachmentand sovereignty and stepping
into a new way of being andreally letting go of control of
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the world, or, in the words ofMel Robbins, the let them theory
.
That's why I think this bookwould be great for anybody on
this journey.
And again you know, take whatyou need and leave the rest with
Mel, with me, with whoeverYou're being called onto your
own path of your spiritualawakening.
The more that we use lovingdetachment and the more that we
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share these principles withothers in loving and open ways,
the more we're letting go of thetethered enmeshment as a
society that we've had and themore that we're healing trauma
that has been handed down forgenerations and learning how to
love people unconditionally forjust who they are.
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And those amounts of supportand love that we offer people
are transforming everything andthey have so much power in them.
So do not diminish theincredible power it is for you
to step into your own sovereign,healed state.
That's the power of soulrecovery.
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If you want help with any ofthis, if this resonates with you
, if you're interested in thenine step soul recovery process,
go to the websiterecoveryoursoulnet.
Work the steps on your ownthrough the individual modules.
Work with me one on one.
Come to one of the workshops,come to a retreat, an in person
retreat.
In the next six months I'mgoing to be rolling out group
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coaching, which I'm superexcited about.
I'm just getting all of thataligned and worked out and I
can't wait for us to reallycontinue to deepen our soul
recovery work together and toshare this incredible
transformation that isn't justhere in this community but is
happening worldwide.
And the popularity of this bookdemonstrates the power of
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detachment.
It demonstrates the incrediblehealing that happens when we let
go and we let them and we turnthe attention to ourselves and
we recognize we are all whole.
Until next time, namaste.
All whole.
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Until next time, namaste.
Thank you for listening and Ihope that that helps support
your soul recovery process.
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Together, we can do the workthat will recover your soul.
Have you read Mel Robbins' new book Let
them Theory?
If you haven't, I highlysuggest it.
I just finished listening to itfor the second time and wanted
to share on the podcast becauseit aligns so beautifully with
what we've been working on forsix seasons about learning how
to let go of control and thepower of loving detachment.
Let them is loving detachmentand let me is taking your power
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back.
So we're going to talk aboutlet them, from the soul recovery
perspective.
Enjoy the episode.
Welcome to the Recover your Soulpodcast a spiritual path to a
happy and healthy life.
My name is Reverend RachelHarrison.
I started Recover your Soulafter having profound changes in
my life from my recovery ofalcoholism, codependency and
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control addiction.
I was guided to share the toolsand principles of spirituality
and soul recovery to help otherstransform their lives, as mine
was transformed.
For us to overcome externalcircumstances, we need to turn
the attention to ourselves,focusing on our inner change and
healing.
Positive results in our liveswill follow.
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Welcome to the Recovery SoulPodcasting Community.
I'm Rev Rachel.
Thank you so much for choosingin onto your spiritual path to a
happy and healthy life.
We are going to talk about theMel Robbins book, the Let them
Theory because it aligns sobeautifully and so deeply with
what we've been doing for yearsin soul recovery that I couldn't
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help, after reading it for thesecond time or listening to it
as I do the second time recently, to talk about it together,
because any tool that we can getto help deepen our
understanding is a tool that weshould pick up and use, because
we are here to let go ofcodependence, to let go of
people pleasing, to release allthose old patterns that no
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longer serve us and step intoour full, authentic selves to
live a happy and healthy life.
That's why we're here, and Iknow that, for me, every time
that I have another book oranother podcast or another
YouTube video or something thatI listen to, that just deepens
what resonates so truly withinme of my knowing of who I am and
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how to be in the world, bychoosing love over fear, by
choosing an open heart andcompassionate way of being from
a empowered place that I justwant more and more and more of
that.
And I listened to the book forthe second time this weekend
while Rich and I were driving toand from Santa Fe, and it was
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fun to listen to it with him andhave conversations about it,
because we're in this journey oftruly learning how to step into
this place of our wholeness andwhat I love about this
particular podcast that I heardof hers two years ago.
I looked it up that she hadfirst aired her first Let them
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Theory episode where she talkedabout she had a kid who had gone
to prom and she was trying todetermine where they should go
eat and somebody just said whyare you getting your nose in
this?
Just let them.
And then I did a podcast thatwas around that and that concept
of detachment and since thenmillions and millions and
millions and millions of peoplelistened to that particular
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episode and she has since thenpropelled to the number one
podcast in the world, which Ithink is fabulous, because the
detachments episodes continue tobe my top podcast too, because
we are all learning how to letgo of control.
We are on a really like anawakening as a society of
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learning how to just let them,that our peace is really held
within ourselves, in our abilityto let go of control, and
loving detachment is such afoundational piece of that.
And you just think about youknow, melody Beatty.
When she first wrote Codependentno More.
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I read somewhere that she hadno idea that the book would blow
up the way that it did, becausepeople were hungry for that.
We're hungry for that in andyou think, oh my God, how am I
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going to get my husband to quitdrinking or my son to quit
drinking or my daughter to quitdrinking?
And you walk in and somebodysays, yeah, that's happening.
And here's what we can offeryou in your healing these tools
that we're learning aboutrecognizing that there are
things happening outside ofourself that feel overwhelming,
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things happening outside ofourself that feel overwhelming,
that feel out of control.
But the more that we grasp andcling and try to make anything
happen, the more we are harmingourselves.
And so when I first got the bookthe Let them Theory on my
Audible and Rich actuallylistened to the beginning of it
when he was driving, when wewere in California for the birth
of our grandson Rocky and, asmany of you know, if you've been
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listening to the podcast for awhile, I've been married for 31
years now 34 years together,something like that.
We've been together forever andI don't really share with Rich
all of the soul recovery stuffbecause he asked me a long time
ago to stop coaching him.
And so I have a relationshipwith him where we share
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spirituality and we share someof the concepts, but he doesn't
actually even know what the ninestep soul recovery process is,
because it's not mine to tellhim.
Right, it's my journey that I'mhaving within myself, right?
So it's the just let him havehis own spiritual journey, which
has been a big piece of ourhealing, our relationship.
So I remember that he came backfrom that drive and he was like
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, oh, I started listening to MelRobbins.
She's so great, gosh, just letthem.
And I laughed because I said,yeah, isn't it?
I mean, this is what I've beentalking about in soul recovery
for five years.
We're in our sixth season.
And he laughed.
He said, yeah, you're probablyright, I should probably learn
more about what soul recovery isin the first place.
But that is actually an exampleof using the concepts and the
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principles of just let them, ofnot being in control, of not
being hurt.
You know, and when I listenedto the book the first time by
myself, and how beautifully shetells stories about herself and
of people in her life and sheuses research, she brings on
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guests to really research theseconcepts and to deepen this
awareness from a psychological,from a science aspect.
This is why I think everybodyshould listen to or read this
book that's doing soul recovery,because she has more
information that will help piecetogether what I've been talking
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about too, because for me,we're on a spiritual journey.
This is a deeper, internalspiritual connection to
something greater still.
But the process that she talksabout in the book, about really
the active guidance, the action,action steps and the examples
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of how you can detach and justlet them are such beautiful
reminders of how insidious it is, in so many different areas of
our life, for us to control andgrasp and try to make it be
different, and how it's causingus our own misery.
It's causing us our own misery,right?
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I pulled a couple quotes outand she says if people want to
go, let them.
If they want to choosesomething that doesn't align
with you, let them.
If they misunderstand you, letthem.
This is a mindset that's aradical act of self love and non
attachment, and we aren'ttrained this way.
This isn't how we were set up.
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We were set up in society tolearn to control and to take
charge and to fix and to makethings be different.
Are you ready to step into yoursoul recovery.
Visit the websiterecoveryoursoulnet to learn more
about the nine-step soulrecovery process.
I hope that you'll join us thefirst Monday of every month for
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the free soul recovery supportgroup on Zoom, where we learn
more about soul recovery andconnect with each other.
If you'd like to work directlywith me to move through the
nine-step soul recovery process,I'm here for you, but you can
also choose to work the steps onyour own, with individual
modules intended to support youto work at your own pace and on
your own time.
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And if you want even more soulrecovery, join us for the
Recover your Soul bonus podcastfor Patreon members and Apple
podcast subscribers, where Iinterview amazing people sharing
soul recovery tips for us andalso do spiritual book studies.
You can also find dailyinspiration on Facebook and
Instagram and join our privateFacebook community.
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Visit the website for moreinformation, links and
registration for everything.
Back to the episode.
Well, what I want to lean intoin the book that was really
impactful to me, that she talksa lot about, especially at the
end of the book, which is whenyou have people who are doing
things that are not good forthem, and she uses the example
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of a friend of hers who has ahusband who is out of shape and
overweight and is not makinghealthy choices, and what I
actually thought was reallyfunny about this was it actually
reflected opposite.
In my life.
Rich has always been super fitand for him, like if he doesn't
get enough physical activity orexercise, it plays out in his
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life.
That's one of the reasons whyhe likes to surf and stand a
paddleboard or mountain bike orwhatever it is that he's doing,
and his work that he does isvery physically demanding and he
likes that because he issomebody who needs to get his
energy out that way.
I've never been like that.
I've never been into exercise.
There have been seasons of mylife where I worked out mostly
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out of vanity, to be honest, andnot out of some sort of health
thing and while I'm doing it,there's no part of me that
thinks, oh, this is so great.
All I'm thinking the whole timeis is the class almost over?
When is the walkover?
How much more time do I have?
I've never really been into it.
So, as she's talking about thisstory, I feel like it's Rich and
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I, but it's Rich is the wifeand I'm the one who's not as
healthy, and I've shared withyou over the years that this has
been something where Rich hastried all the different things
to try to make me be differentand for a long time I actually
thought that what he was sayingwas I don't love you being full
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figured.
I'm not attracted to you.
I will love you more if youlook like this or this or this
or this.
Those are actually my insidestories that I tell myself,
because when we would have moreconversations, his conversations
were always around.
No, I just want you to behealthy, like you're my favorite
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person and I want you to be inmy life forever and I don't want
you to be in pain and I don'twant you to have illness or
disease, like I want us to havea healthy life.
As I'm listening to this MelRobbins book and she's gotten
through a whole bunch of greatchapters there's just so many
chapters I'm not really going todo a good job on it, because I
really am thinking of thisparticular chapter and she gets
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to this place where you havesomebody who is doing something
that is unhealthy and theresponse in in soul recovery as
well is you're powerless.
Step two in soul recovery isyou're powerless over every
single thing outside of yourself.
And our attempt to control isan illusion that we think that
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we can control anything in thefirst place.
But when we attempt to control,that's where our pain and
suffering comes from, becausewe're consumed with this desire
to make something be different.
And I believe the name of thischapter was people only change
when they want to, and this partof us recognizing that really,
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the only change that anybodyever makes is when they decide
they're going to change.
And she actually has greatscience in it that explains,
like, how our brains work andthat we all think we're the
exception.
Right, like I'm not exercising,I'm not working on my heart
health, I'm not breathing heavyor doing anything that's
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extraneous exercise.
I do think I'm the exception,that I won't be the one that has
heart disease, I won't be theone that has something wrong
with me because, you know, I'mspiritually fit.
And this psychology that sheshared with the truth that
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everybody thinks that they'rethe exception was fabulous
because it explains even morehow we are as human beings.
But it also is the part wherethe other person is pushing so
hard and when we push, there'sno other choice than for the
person to push back, the moreover the years that Rich has
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pushed me to eat different orguilted me or shamed me.
He's tried all the things.
He's tried all the things, andthe more he moves into those
unhealthy patterns, which havestopped.
A couple years ago they stopped, but the more he was in those
places, the more resistant I was.
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And it reminds me actually ofwhen I was drinking too, because
when I was drinking, anybodywho pointed out my level of
drinking, even if they werecoming from concern, my first
response was well, I'm certainlynot going to share it with you,
or I'm not going to drinkaround you, or I'm not going to
be friends with you anymore,because you're protecting this
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part of yourself that alreadycarries its own shame.
And so this ability to just letthem allows people to be in
their own experience.
And she doesn't talk about itfrom a spiritual perspective,
she just talks about it from ahuman being mindset perspective.
That I thought was so great,the more that she explains about
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how just letting them,detaching with love, frees you
up from your own pain andsuffering.
And then she has the let me,which is the empowerment, taking
your power back that we talkabout in soul recovery, and this
in soul recovery is actuallystep five, which is releasing
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the old patterns that no longerserve us.
So when we release people,pleasing, caretaking, rescuing
these are the old patterns thatwe've been holding onto and
they're keeping us from livingour most authentic, healthiest
self.
And then we use detachment, weuse releasing those belief
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systems that it's our job to fixor change, and then we move
into our most authentic self,which is our let me, which is
stepping into your new beliefsand stories, which is step six
in soul recovery.
Step into a belief and patternsthat align with your higher
self and your updatedperceptions.
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Every time that we let them,the immediate response is how am
I going to show up?
What am I going to do?
Here?
And in this example that shegave of the wife who has a
husband who isn't making goodchoices, she shares that that
husband.
Of course he doesn't want to beoverweight.
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Of course he wants to behealthier.
Same with me.
I don't particularly care to be20 pounds overweight or to not
be in the physical shape that Iwant to.
I've already got my own layersof shame around it.
I certainly don't need someoneelse to layer that shame on me
as well.
Well, the same thing goes formy kids and their addiction or
Rich, when he was drinking,which is why I didn't put a lot
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of energy around if he wasdrinking or not, because it
wasn't a deal breaker for me.
The deal breaker would havebeen if he was really drinking
and was in behaviors that didn'twork.
For me, the deal breaker wouldhave been if he was really
drinking and was in behaviorsthat didn't work for me.
But his addiction is hisjourney to have.
And when we can use theseconcepts of really seeing the
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importance of letting otherpeople have their own experience
and the release that we feeland the freedom that we feel by
truly understanding that it'snot ours to decide or do for
them, then we have moreexperience, more bandwidth, more
energy, more like reallyability to step into our own
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healing, our own journey, ourown awareness, into our own
healing, our own journey, ourown awareness, and be present
with ourself for our ownrecovery, our soul recovery.
What she talks about in thebook is how letting them
sometimes means that it's a dealbreaker.
It's a deal breaker in, maybe,a marriage, right.
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You're truly letting somebodybe fully who they are and in
that it really lights up thereality that that doesn't work
for you, that their choices aregoing to make it so that it just
doesn't align, and that's okayIn the end.
Rich loves me, but he's notgoing to leave me because I
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don't like to exercise, but hewill still choose for himself.
What I watched him do, which Iwanted to talk about, that she
talks about in the book, whichis what we can do in the just
let me or in our empowermentplace of ourself, is we model
and live from the way that thisworks in our lives.
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And what we want to reflect andthis is what I've been sharing
with you in soul recovery for along time which is be the change
that you want to see.
But you are not the change thatyou want to see in an attempt
to control them.
You are the change that youwant to see, knowing that it is
really the only way to createchange, because the only way
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that people change is if theythink it's their idea, which she
does such a beautiful job inthe book of truly sharing how,
if somebody wants to get sober,even if you bring it to them,
they will only really get soberif, in their heart and in their
mind, they're ready and it'stheir idea to save themselves.
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If they're saving themselvesfor you, they might be having
the actions, they might be goingthrough the system, they might
be going to treatment, theymight not be drinking, but
they're not actually healingbecause they do not and are not
ready to heal.
And if I look at where I am inmy health journey, rich has
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completely stopped trying tocontrol anything that I'm doing
and teases sometimes if we'relike having a dessert or
something like that, and youknow, he's like, well, I guess
we're on the sugar wagon now orwhatever it is, but it's not
mean.
But I'm actually starting tosay to myself, without him
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pushing me and him actuallymaking his, he won't eat certain
things.
He's like, oh, I don't eat that.
Actually making his, he won'teat certain things.
He's like, oh, I don't eat that.
He doesn't say we don't eatthat, or I don't want you to eat
that.
He says, okay, no, thanks, I'm,I don't eat that anymore.
And it's inspired me.
I'm actually starting to thinkto myself maybe I shouldn't eat
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that, or I really doesn't feelas good when I have that much
sugar, or I really do want to bemore fit and I'm making that
decision for myself, and any ofyou who have been on this
journey with me in the podcastfor a long time know this is a
long time journey for me, andthis decision that I'm making in
how to take care of myself goesmuch deeper than whether I'm
going to exercise or not.
There is still a beliefunderneath, around my value of
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who I am that needs to beaddressed and given love from me
, and that is something that isso powerful in the just let me
part of any of these detachmentsthat we're working on, the
really embodying our whole selfpart, where, when we let go of
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everybody else, we're left withour own being.
We're left with the knowledgethat we really can't change them
, nor should we, nor should wetry to control it, nor should we
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try to control it.
And at the same time, how do weattend to ourselves?
How do we truly step in and sayis this a deal breaker or not?
And in the book, the answer wasthat, for this woman, not a
deal breaker.
She loves her husband If thisis the body or the choices that
he is going to make.
Not a deal breaker.
And this goes for a lot of usthat are looking around in the
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Al-Anon world or in theaddiction world, and for one
person, their partner's drinkingmay not be a deal breaker and
for someone else, total dealbreaker.
These are the choices that weget to make, because the let
them part is the most importantpart, the detachment part,
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because that often means thatyou're actually watching
somebody do things that areharmful and hurtful to them and,
of course, we love them and wewish they would make different
choices.
Your friend group change overtime or let your co workers be
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who they are.
Those are really importantaspects for your daily well
being and we can always, always,always stop complaining at
people who and we're driving orbeing pissed at the people in
the checkout line for takingsuch a slow time.
That's going to affect ourlives in a positive way, for
sure, right away.
But these deeper ones, where youhave people in your life that
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you love so much and they'remaking choices that do not
benefit them.
This is really where soulrecovery's greatest teachings of
detachment, forgiveness,compassion, love come into play,
because we have to keep theattention on ourself, to really
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look deeply and honestly at ourown shadow work, our own self
that wants it to change, thathas belief systems about it
being our job, that we are givenheavy responsibility as a child
maybe, and so we're rewarded somuch for being the one that can
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fix everything.
So it's really hard to let goof the belief that it's our job
to fix it.
But that's the soul recoveryoffers is this ability for us to
look more deeply at ourselvesand connect then to our higher
power, to even more into the wooof our spiritual journeys, of
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curiosity of what our souls arehere to learn.
In our curriculum of life hereon earth school, what are we
here to learn?
And if we just let them foreverybody to be on their own
curriculum and we work sodiligently and with such passion
to really come into our fullestself, it will.
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It will inspire others.
Rich's continued love for meeven more deep than ever before.
I feel more comfortable withhim than ever before because he
has stopped judging me andtrying to fix this thing in me.
Well, guess what if you were toask him?
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It's exactly the same on allthe things that I was trying to
fix him on.
It wasn't his drinking, it washis anger, it was his reactivity
, it was how he was treatingAlex, all of these things that I
started letting him be in hisown experience.
Now I will say that I practicesomething that in soul recovery
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in the car on the way down fromSanta Fe, that I think is
important for us in terms ofboundaries and us really being
in the let them and the let me,right in the detachment and self
empowerment space.
Rich has never liked how peopledrive and he's a slow driver,
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he's a careful driver, heusually is driving a big old
pickup truck and it doesn't gothat fast and he gets very
frustrated at the cars zippingaround and cutting off and you
know it, just, it just irks him.
And so we were joking on thetrip about how he could apply
the just let him theory to thedrivers.
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But what I recognized is I wantto just let him be pissed, I
want to just let.
If this is who he is and it'sgoing to piss him off, I've got
to just let him.
But it's his verbalization ofwhat he thinks that is kind of
putting his stickiness on me,right, he's kind of throwing up
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his irritation at them, on me,and so in a more healthier state
of where we are in our livesright now, I said, hey, I have a
request, which is generally howwe start a conversation.
That is, I need to have a hardconversation or this is
something that I need.
And he said, yeah, what's,what's your request?
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And I said, in the nature ofthe, just let them, because
we're listening to the book.
I said I don't want to tell youthat you can't think these
thoughts about these drivers.
It's not how I see it, but Iwant to just let you.
But I need to ask you to keepthat inside of yourself.
I want to just let you have thethoughts.
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But when you say it out loud,as if I'm supposed to agree with
you or I'm supposed to dosomething about it, it makes me
uncomfortable and it puts meback into old patterns where I'm
anxious.
And he said, totally get it, Iagree.
And it was amazing, right,because I could tell that he was
irked at these drivers whilehe's driving.
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But he didn't say it out loudand I got to work on just
letting him be pissed.
Just let him.
Just let him be pissed.
It's okay, those are hisfeelings, he's entitled to those
feelings.
But I asked for what I neededand that was that was movement,
that was strength, that wasmovement when we connect in a
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more healed way with the peoplearound us, from this place of
real grace for where people areand what they need to learn and
where they are on their path andwhere their healing is, and
letting go of control andreclaiming our personal power.
Things shift so profoundlyaround us.
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Mel Robbins says the more I saidlet them, the more I realized
that a lot of what I worriedabout wasn't worth my time, nor
did it deserve my attention.
That's one of her quotes.
We spend so much time andenergy on everybody else.
What are they doing?
What are they saying?
What are they thinking?
Why are they doing that?
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Why are they doing it that way?
They should do it like this.
They should they, they, they,they, they.
And the more energy that we'reputting on the they, they, they,
they, they, the less energy wehave to put on the me, me, me,
me, me, not from the selfish end, but from a empowerment of your
own experience.
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How are you choosing to show up?
How are you choosing to see it?
How can you be supportive in asituation that allows people to
sit in their own discomfortenough to make change?
She also talks beautifully inthe book about how we have to be
so uncomfortable in general tomove the needle.
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You know, I'm certainly notgoing to wait until I'm really
overweight to do something, butI am at a place in my own
discomfort where feelingcrickety and getting up off the
chair after a couple hours andfeeling tight and not
comfortable is becoming enoughfor me to want change.
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And that's come because I'mbeing given space by my husband
to be in my own discomfortwithout shame and my hope in my
children as I let them havethese seasons of sobriety in and
out, have their own lifeexperience.
I'm certainly not throwing themto the wolves and hoping that
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it crashes and burns for them.
I continually see them in thelight.
I send them so much positiveenergy all the time that they
may be surrounded by love andlight and make choices that
align for them.
I do not want them to have to gothrough the incredible depths
of difficulty that I had in mylife, but the truth is they went
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through those already in theirlives.
Maybe they've had enough too.
Can I trust that?
And can I trust that, whateverjourney that they're on, I have
to let them.
I have to let them have thoseexperiences.
But the more healed that we are,the more attuned to who we are,
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the more sovereignty we have inour experience and the more we
turn to love and light andspirituality and the God of your
understanding and source energyin the universe, whatever you
call it the more that you cantrust that everybody's on the
journey that they need to be onfor their own awakening and to
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choose your awakening, becauseyour awakening matters.
And every time you stand fullyand firmly in your light,
choosing love in every moment,the more that that energy
radiates out to those that arein struggle and that they may
potentially choose somethingthat's better for them.
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But we're not here to blocktheir experience.
And at the same time, it givesus more clarity to choose what
are deal breakers for us, tochoose who we want to be aligned
with in our life and torecognize that we're being
called and drawn to.
As she talks about in the book,maybe the best friends we'll
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ever have are yet to come,because we're going to step up
and we're going to engage in ourlife in a way that aligns and
draws those people to us thattruly resonate with who we are,
those people to us that trulyresonate with who we are, and
that's the power of detachmentand sovereignty and stepping
into a new way of being andreally letting go of control of
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the world, or, in the words ofMel Robbins, the let them theory
.
That's why I think this bookwould be great for anybody on
this journey.
And again you know, take whatyou need and leave the rest with
Mel, with me, with whoeverYou're being called onto your
own path of your spiritualawakening.
The more that we use lovingdetachment and the more that we
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share these principles withothers in loving and open ways,
the more we're letting go of thetethered enmeshment as a
society that we've had and themore that we're healing trauma
that has been handed down forgenerations and learning how to
love people unconditionally forjust who they are.
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And those amounts of supportand love that we offer people
are transforming everything andthey have so much power in them.
So do not diminish theincredible power it is for you
to step into your own sovereign,healed state.
That's the power of soulrecovery.
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If you want help with any ofthis, if this resonates with you
, if you're interested in thenine step soul recovery process,
go to the websiterecoveryoursoulnet.
Work the steps on your ownthrough the individual modules.
Work with me one on one.
Come to one of the workshops,come to a retreat, an in person
retreat.
In the next six months I'mgoing to be rolling out group
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coaching, which I'm superexcited about.
I'm just getting all of thataligned and worked out and I
can't wait for us to reallycontinue to deepen our soul
recovery work together and toshare this incredible
transformation that isn't justhere in this community but is
happening worldwide.
And the popularity of this bookdemonstrates the power of
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detachment.
It demonstrates the incrediblehealing that happens when we let
go and we let them and we turnthe attention to ourselves and
we recognize we are all whole.
Until next time, namaste.
All whole.
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Until next time, namaste.
Thank you for listening and Ihope that that helps support
your soul recovery process.
Just a reminder that everyFriday is the Recover your Soul
bonus podcast.
This podcast is for Patreonmembers and Apple podcast
subscribers and not only do youget an incredible interview or
book study that comes with beingpart of that community, but
your subscribing helps supportthis podcast and the Recover
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your Soul community.
If you want to listen to thosebonus episodes but can't
subscribe right now, do knowthat you can be a free Patreon
member and have access forlimited time to new episodes.
Visit the websiteRecoverYourSoulnet or check out
the show links below for couponsand information for upcoming
events.
I thank you for sharing thispodcast with your friends and
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family.
I thank you for giving it fivestars, and the reviews that are
left bring tears to my eyes.
I am honored to be part of yourlife.
Together, we can do the workthat will recover your soul.
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