The Journey So Far: One Year of Recovery Unfiltered

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Fifty-two episodes. One year of sobriety stories. Countless lives touched. 

This special anniversary episode takes you behind the scenes of Recovery Unfiltered's remarkable first year. Larry and Rob, joined by their wives Katie and Bonnie, reflect on how a vision born from tragedy—a son lost to fentanyl—transformed into a beacon of hope for those battling addiction.

The journey hasn't been without challenges. From setting up the studio (and carrying a surprisingly heavy tile table upstairs) to navigating sensitive conversations, the hosts share candid memories of building this platform from scratch. But the rewards have been immeasurable: three confirmed listeners entering treatment, guests healing through storytelling, and bridges rebuilt between estranged friends and family members.

What makes this retrospective especially powerful are the honest revelations about which episodes resonated most. Brad and Grace's marriage recovery story continues to draw listeners, while the raw vulnerability of guests like Nathan, whose transformation they've witnessed firsthand, demonstrates recovery's profound impact. The hosts also acknowledge a truth often overlooked—the silent partners who make their work possible, as their wives share perspectives on supporting men dedicated to helping others find sobriety.

As they look toward the future with plans for video content and non-profit status, their commitment remains unwavering: no sponsorships that might compromise their message, just authentic conversations about finding serenity in sobriety. Whether you're new to the podcast or have been listening since day one, this episode captures the heart of what makes Recovery Unfiltered extraordinary—the courage to speak truth and the compassion to help others heal.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I have to hear you enough at home.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's that?
Hey, pull that up there.
I'm going to ask you questions.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
What.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Pull it up to you in case I have to ask you a
question.
I need to hear you.
There you go.
That a kid.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
They're much better.
You guys never mind you sit onthe toilet, don't you Use that
as your meditation?
Not my wife, not your wife, noranybody listening to this
podcast has eaten a shitsandwich we didn't have a hand
in making his favorite welcomerecovery.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm filled, I'm there .
I'm an alcoholic fuck that.
I'm over it.
Okay, so when are we going todo?
A new one, what the next next?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
so I yes, I, I've got one about three quarters of the
way done.
Uh, that I I enjoy doing I gotno input on it.
Apparently, katie, he's in amotherfucker, get your ass over
here and sit down with me whenI'm doing it just invite you're
here enough, you're here enough,you're not.
No, no, no.
The hold on a second hold on.
You are always welcome I gotthat was very dickish I got a

(01:01):
resentment.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
That was very dickish of me.
I got a resentment.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
That was very dickish of me.
That was what I meant by thatis I utilize you enough.
I mean, you're the only man Iknow that I could call up and
say we're recording in an hour.
Okay, I'll be right there, andGod love you, bonnie, for
letting him do that to you.

(01:29):
Ladies, for letting me go froma man son dying of a fentanyl
overdose to a, to a dream or avision or whatever it was vision
in Texas, to calling Rob andsaying will you do a podcast
with me?
I feel like I need to do moreto episode 53, a year and one
week later recording this one.
I mean it just.
You know the things that havehappened in the podcast the, the

(01:51):
, the, the.
Everything that we've gotten todo.
It's been incredible and it'sbecause you women have allowed
us to do it, and Katie, forallowing me to utilize this in
our home and to be a part ofthis and just allow and
sacrifice the most wait, can yousay that again?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
can you repeat the allowed part?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I like that that you've allowed him.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, you do right you do I mean the way that
sounds you.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I mean never, ever have I, ever, I have never heard
him say, well, let me checkwith bonnie, let me make sure
it's okay with Bonnie, and thatis that is just allowing him to
do this thing that we do.
You know, you know, katie,katie has to give up her home,
has to give up her time.
She has to.
I mean, she doesn't have to,she's chose, she's chose to to
allow this.
She's allowed me to take overthis room and God love you,

(02:40):
katie, thank you, thank you,thank you for letting me do this
, because what it's done in forus right, for me it's.
This is my therapeutic, this istherapy for me.
Right, it's my way.
It's done so much for people.
I know of three people that arein treatment because of this

(03:00):
podcast, for sure.
Right, I know of three.
There may be more, but I saidfrom the very beginning one is
all I want, one is all I want,one soul is all I want, and God
laid that on my heart and I'mgoing to do it as long as I can,
and I'll never record withoutyou, rob, I will never record

(03:21):
without you.
You know so many people said,well, just record one without
Rob.
No, I'm not doing it.
I'm not.
This is a Rob and Larry showand it's going to be that till
the day we stop the.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Lamonts, it's actually Larry and Rob.
I get second billing, don't.
Don't kid yourself.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You know why I say Rob and Larry.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I give up why.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Because your name is shorter.
You always say the short namefirst before you say I didn't
know that that's just you learnsomething every day.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'll put that on my smart ass the Rob and Larry show
.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So hey what I want to do real fast, right?
I just wanted to catch up onthe last year, the last 52
episodes, right?
So I'm going to start with ours, yours and I's.
That was horrible.
You're an, i's beautiful, rightbeautiful grammar Beautiful
grammar Mine and yours, Mine andyours right.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
That kid Mine and yours More yours than mine.
Better than yours.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Our first two right.
They come out very first, july7th and whatever, I'm not going
to say the dates, those were fun, right, telling our stories
Some of it, we did.
Some of it.
We've told our story over aperiod of time.
The three or four weeks leadingup to that was doing our intros
, doing our outros, doing our,you know, doing all that stuff
getting it set up.

(04:26):
And then our first two, jason,and then then, yes, then three
and four, jason.
Right, jason, was you know whenI learned my lesson through
those, right?
We learned that I didn't wantto split up any more episodes,
right, when we split that up,well, I think Katie's the one
that said because Jason wasn'tfinished and don't split him up,
we got great input, and I thinkthere was still a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
And Miranda gave us great input.
Mckenna gave us great input.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
To be said in Jason's story.
I mean, there's so many partsof Jason's story which was super
sad.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
She won't listen to those either.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, jason's like an older brother to me.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I've known him since I was in sixth or seventh grade
I knew Tyler, yeah, and we hadkind of you know I don't think
Larry so much because I don'tthink that he was paying too
much attention to that, but whenthat happened, you know that
was kind of part of Miranda andEric.
They're one of the things thatwas kind of traumatic per se to

(05:24):
happen when they were in highschool.
So they were kind of living it.
Even though they were in adifferent city, a different high
school, it was still an Eric'scommunity.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
The wrestling community.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, so we kind of knew more about that.
And you know Larry was sad forhis friend, but I had also
worked with Tyler's mom.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, I love Dina.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
When I was in high school, we had worked at the
deli together.
She's awesome.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I hadn't seen her for years either.
It was very sad for me to knowthat they were having to walk
this and then, not even knowingthe Stillmans, that they lost
their son.
You don't want that to happento anybody.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
That was rough.
That was rough because, like Isaid, jason is mean.
Him and I were inseparablegrowing up in Waterford right,
and his dad and my dad and hisuncle Larry I'm named after his
uncle, you know and it was justit was, you know, to get to know
Jason again after all thoseyears of playing on, when we

(06:25):
went from Waterford to Oakdaleand he was a year behind me in
school, but it doesn't no, twoyears behind, he's a year ahead
of you, isn't he?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Jason's 55 years old buddy.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, he's the same age as me.
He was a year behind me inschool though I thought Maybe
not, maybe not, but anyways,when I went to Waterford we went
to Oakdale, we just went intoseparate crowds, so it was just
a completely different area.
So I lost, you know, we justlost that friendship.
But we always stayed in touchwhen I'd see him in town and I
knew what was going on with him,blah, blah, blah.
But man, to be able to sit downdown with him and you know, the

(06:58):
studio originally started in myoffice and but to sit down with
him and to walk through thatstory firsthand, instead of
hearing it from my dad orhearing it from Billy Ray or
hearing it from his uncle, larryor his cousins or anybody else,
right, I mean I got to hear itfirsthand from him and it was
just, it was, it was, it was, itwas nice to hear it directly
from him.
And I love that man to death.

(07:18):
I mean that guy's got a spiritto him.
That's just incredible.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And now we're grappling buddy.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Huh, I know, now you're beating up on him, poor
guy.
So then Rob and I, so that wasthree and four, right.
And then Rob and I, and thenfive was Mary and Matt, right.
That's when Mary and Matt camein.
Wow, that far back.
Yeah, I know, I was kind ofshocked when I started going
back through these to kind offigure out when we did them
right, and I was just shockedthat they were right behind it

(07:45):
and you know, and I once againgoing back me learning the
studio and learning how tocontrol the mics and that kind
of stuff, and Matt was righthere.
Matt was right here.
We moved in.
By then we had moved in overhere.
Yep, right, rob and I.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
This thing is 500 pounds.
These are tiles.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
No, you guys were carrying my desk.
I had just gotten that desk forwhat I thought was going to be
my office.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
It is your office, if you ever get in there.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, I'm still working, so I'm not.
Anyways, that's a whole otherstory.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I originally.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
He was bringing that out here.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was taking over her office.
I originally set everything upin her office and I sent her a
picture of it.
She's like so much for myoffice.
And then I was like, fuck,she's right.
So I started bringingeverything out over to here,
cause I knew this was eventuallywhere the studio was going to
end up, right, but I wanted tofind a table.
My original thoughts was justto have big cigarette cigar
chairs with stand mics and thatkind of stuff.

(08:41):
But the more I remember myvision.
My vision was sitting around atable with four mics, round
table with four mics.
So Katie started looking.
You know she didn't want me inher office, didn't want me
taking over her stuff.
So she found this table and Roband I once again my man, rob,

(09:03):
hey, I gotta go pick up a table.
When are we going?
You know, off, we go Go over toAntioch, and this lady was just
a God-fearing woman.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Tell me that wasn't a God thing.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh, buddy, she was awesome.
You know, she's like it's heavy, it's heavy.
And Rob oh my God, we're goingto do it he gets over and grabs
ahold of this thing.
He's like, holy shit, we'regoing to take that thing apart.
And we did.
Right, this thing was heavy,right.
The middle of this is all realtile right here.
That's why it's so heavy.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
It's a beautiful Pier 1 round dining table.
It is beautiful With tile onthe top it's awesome.
Tile and wood.
It is beautiful.
I did not realize how heavy itwould be.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh my God, this thing was brutal carrying up here.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
And poor Larry with his broken body.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, he can barely carry anything, the midget had
to do the heavy lifting.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
You ain't lying, he was doing the heavy lifting.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think that was before you had your hip surgery
too.
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Maybe yeah, no, it was I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, it was yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
You're right.
And they had to carry thisheavy thing upstairs to the loft
where they record.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right, and then we had a, so the first, and then we
have mixed mass chairs, becausethe chairs that came with this
I loved the white chairs.
Well, so do I, but I wantedthem to match because you know
Larry's anal that way.
And then the chairs that camewith this.
That's your fourth step.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We swore not to ever talk about it again.
Yeah, him being anal, andAbigail, my chicken, can't talk
about that shit.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And the metal chairs that came with this are just,
they're throughout the studioshere, they're in the corners.
And then so we started bringingin still and Katie's chairs out
of her office.
Then Katie would come up to doher work in her office and she'd
be getting mad because they'rein here anyways.
So then I brought in theacoustic curtains and, you know,
it eventually became what it isnow, and I'm not done.
I still got a couple of thingsI want to do.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I just need another thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Anybody wants to send .
Anybody that wants to send it.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's like a boat.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right, it's like a boat, right, just need a little
bit more.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It's like our RV A little bit more.
Anyway.
So that was five, and then theone that still is on the top of
the most downloads or the mostlistened to.
Besides the first one, thefirst two are always the most,
because when somebody starts anew podcast, right, they always
go back to the very first one.
I'm going to say this to theend of this podcast.
It's the reason why mine isstill the most.

(11:24):
The very first one was my story.
Okay, so it's still the mostlistened to, but it's only
because, only because whenpeople go to listen to new
podcasts, they start at the verybeginning, maybe it's the best
too.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Who the fuck knows?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Anyways.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
But your story on why you started this.
That ties into your story.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yes, it does, for sure, wasn't an issue to Rob.
No, it's just, it's still.
But Brad and Grace was numberseven and they, that is.
You know people still talkabout that one.
That was so and because itreally was that you know Mary
and Matt had a story of loss andand they were both in recovery,

(12:03):
but that was the first husbandand wife that we had in here.
I mean, their story is veryamazing, right?
Brad's story on how he got intothe recovery and how he went
and more people can relate to.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Brad, yes, because not everybody in recovery has
lost a son.
No, no.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
And Brad and Grace.
Their story was just tremendousand it was fun.
And you know they they're just,they're wonderful people.
I love those two to death andanyways, that was.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I love Grace.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Oh my God, I love her to death.
I love Brad.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
She's just a lovely human.
Brad I love I mean Brad, I lovehim.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
You don't have to wonder what he's thinking.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
No, God's just he doesn't have a filter, but it's
in a good way, you know,especially where my husband is
concerned.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
He is just.
You know him and I think, somuch alike.
In fact, we went out to dinnerone night after a meeting Brad
and Grace and Katie and I andBrad, blah, blah, blah, anyways,
they were just being stupid.
When we got in there, it wasabout close to closing time and
they were being stupid and Bradand I, I was literally right in

(13:16):
the verge of being a dick and Iwas looking at Brad and I think
Brad was right there.
I think we were thinking whichone of us is going to be the
bigger dick here, because bothof us really wanted just to be a
raging dick.
But I think we both was like,yeah, we just came from an AA
meeting, we're going to be good,but it was just it was a lovely

(13:36):
dinner, lovely dinner and theyended up being super sweet to us
.
It was, it was good.
Anyways, that that was a Bradand Grace was a fun one.
And then nine, our, our mentorand Chris, the love of my life,
Chris, Chris L, You're the loveof my home, baby.
Chris L saved my life with God.

(13:57):
Hey, that man, mine too, yeah,he just he turned me upside down
and flipped all this shit outof me and overnight and when we
talked about that's when thechange in me happened.
When you talked about in thepodcast before, about when I
asked you did you see a change?

(14:17):
Well, the change happened whenthey put me with him right,
because I was a motherfucker forthe first 18 days, trying to
tell him how to run the placethe lady that was running it at
the surprise rise up the ladythat was running the place was a
complete, total bitch.
I couldn't stand her and and wejust clashed so hard and she was

(14:37):
actually my counselor at first,and then she, and then then she
put me.
They put me with somebody elseand that poor lady didn't stand
a chance because I was just adick, so we didn't even last one
.
And then Sean Monaco, she was,she was just, she just kept
after me, just trying to be sopositive with me, and I love
that woman and Marla, who wasthere between those two girls.

(14:58):
They kept me there.
And then they put me with ChrisL, who turned me upside down
and shook the shit out of me andliterally made me want and made
me want to be sober, me too.
Yeah, it just he.
His enthusiasm for life isinfectious.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
It's infectious and I did, but when you're in the
dark like I was, you were Iwanted to punch him in the mouth
.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
My first met him because he was just like well he
was, yeah, because I never hadone, could you?

Speaker 4 (15:22):
he's got that big smile and he's so happy.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's what I wanted.
I wanted to hit him.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Didn't you want to have that happiness?
No, not until— Not until.
But you got it.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
In five minutes afterwards, because he just sat
me and he was beaming and I toldthe story and he came up this

(15:51):
was the third day.
Three because what I said was Ican't live like this anymore.
I can help you.
That's what he said.
Then he got serious.
He grabbed my hand, grabbed myarm, and I was.
And I looked at him with thatbig smile Chris is, I can help
you.
And I believed him.
I don't know why I believed him, but then that's when shit
switched for me and I was like,whatever you tell me to go stand
in the corner with a grapefruiton my head and I won't drink

(16:11):
today.
Give me two.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm there.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I did whatever that man asked me to do.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
from that point on, yeah, and when they told I got
hope when they pulled me intothe principal's office is what I
always called it Third time orsecond time?
The third time Third time andShauna Wren was sitting there
and you want to talk about awoman?
I'd kill people for that woman.
Right, there is a saint, Goodwoman and I sat across.

(16:38):
I never met her before, Ididn't know who she was, and
they sat me there with Marty andShauna and Sean I don't
remember I think Ashton wasthere and Sean was sitting and I
was just going off and theother lady that was running the
place at the time was there thatI just wanted to throw
something at God.
Let you know I don't have anyresentment to her.
Honestly, she was a great pathto my sobriety.

(17:00):
And, um, anyways, I was justgoing off and I finally had to
look at the poor Sean and Wrenand I'm like, ma'am, I don't
have no idea who you are and Iapologize, you have to meet me
like this to begin with.
And she sat there and goes I'mthe owner.
And I'm like, oh, let's go then.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Let me tell you how you can make this place better.
Now.
I got the owner's attentioncome on, and then.
I got a little's attention,come on.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, my whole world kind of changed.
And then they said we're goingto put Chris, we're going to
give you another opportunity orwe're going to have to ask you
to leave.
We're going to put you withChris Lytle.
And I was like who the fuck isChris Lytle?
He's your, he's the guy thatruns the class.
And I'm like I didn't even knowhe was a counselor.
We give Counselor, we give therough ones to him.
I'm like okay, and the next dayI just you know, I went in.

(17:47):
You guys have all heard me tellthat story.
It was just anyway.
So that was Chris.
We got him on here.
He still runs a great programand I'm going to think about it.
Chris, I want to give you thatplug.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I apologize, but he still runs a good it's called
Spiritual Roads.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Thank you, rob.
Thank you, spiritual Roads.
I love you, Chris.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, apparently,rob loves you more than I do,
chris.
Spiritual Roads, it's a YouTubechannel.
He has all the 12 steps, hewalks through all the 12 steps
on there.
It's great.
And then my boy, dougie P, mytravel partner.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
We've had Doug a couple of times on.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, we had Doug and Brad a couple of times together
on here.
Yeah, and Dougie P, he's mytravel.
We're getting ready to leavefor Canada.
In fact, when you guys arelistening to this, we've already
been to Canada, you know, forthe International.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Aid Convention and Jason R.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, jason R is going with us, him and Kim, and
which I haven't.
We're coming up to that one, soI'm, I love Doug.
You know Doug's, that guy, dougis my sponsor also.
We sponsor one another, but heis my sponsor 21 years of
sobriety and he actually, oncewe started doing the men's group
he kind of doubled down and gotback into it and he's just a

(18:57):
light man.
You know, I love that man todeath Freaking called me today.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I ain't going to say it.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Why.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I got to pray about it, doug asked me for something.
I got to pray about it.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh no, he's going to do it.
He's going to do it.
He's going to be a little flagfootball coach.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Are you going to do it?
You know what?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
My daughter.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I think it's sweet.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Do you know what grade?
Apparently, I think you'regoing to have my grandson.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I think you're going to have my grandson.
If you're doing it, I'm goingto help you.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, it's through the-.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
It is.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
It's from your church For Saturdays.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, it's on Saturdays.
It's your church.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
That's Kane's League.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I'm almost but we might cut this out.
But if it's that weekend, ifit's the same group, I'll help
you.
I can't beat them.
Miranda asked me to do it andI'm like baby, I'm not going to
commit to that.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But if I know— it's one day a week.
I don't know what day it is.
It is, it is, and then it's aSaturday game.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Doug got asked, so he called me coach.
Oh God, love God, love you.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Doug Logan did it when he was little Kane played
one year, he just didn't.
They didn't get him signed uplast year.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, Logan loves it.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
It was fun.
Oh yeah, Kane loved it.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So yeah, Me and Doug are going to be coaching flag
football.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
It's a good league.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's fun.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
He stole his bike.
He what.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Logan won a bicycle, did he really?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
And then, because he already had a nice bike, he gave
it away to a young boy thatdidn't have one.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Oh yeah.
The little kid around thecorner.
Someone stole his bike.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So, Logan took the bike he got for free.
Where did he learn all thatfrom?
It was a nice bike.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
God, glad you didn't say me, god Number 11 was Pat or
his mother.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Pat Two-can Superman.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Two-can Superman Pat.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know you want to talk about it.
I had never met another manthat knew the book as much as
Rob did until Pat started comingin right and I had a real
aversion to him at first.
You've never met Pat.
She's met him a couple of times, but it's super at the grocery

(21:10):
store.
Yeah, I just, I had a realaversion to Pat at first because
to me he was competing with myboy, rob, to to see who knew the
most.
And I'm like, I'm like,motherfucker, ain't nobody know
more than my Rob, you know.
And then, but the more I got toknow the man, I love that guy
man, I love him, love him, lovehim, love him, the knowledge
that he has and his story.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
But the way he lives, he's an incredible.
We live at the same time.
Yes, yes, he's just.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I love him to death.
He's just a great man.
Doug was back Meditation on theShitter on the 13th and then
number 14 was.
My favorite man of all time isJason Ryan.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I can't argue that no that is, I love him and Kim.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
My God, him and Kim.
They're dynamic.
I love listening to theiradventures and what they do.
He's another one that I get tosit with in Canada and I'm so
excited.
Enjoy that.
I was so excited to be with himand Kim in Canada.
You know, I wanted to ask himif he's, you know, because the
guy runs every morning.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
He's him.
If he's, you know, because theguy runs every morning, he's
pillar of health and I wouldwanted to ask you the way his
back is from bull, right, right,but he doesn't feel any of it.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
He's screwed up from yeah, no, he yeah from cattle,
from, uh, but, as god blessed it, he's right, he just keeps, he
just keeps fighting through itand, yeah, he's awesome.
I mean he works over in the onthe coast where I go every once
in a while.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, we don't.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I hate it, I get to run into him every once in a
while.
We don't get to see him as muchno, we don't, and I hate it.
I get to run into him everyonce in a while.
We'll go to dinner over in um,over at Monterey, when I get
over there.
So, yeah, I get to see him, notnearly as much as I want to,
because that that man is aninspiration to me.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I think that's one thing that you don't necessarily
get portrayed through themicrophone is I don't want to
say personality, becausesometimes people's personalities
does come out on the mic, butboth Jason and his beautiful
wife Kim are just full of joyand there is no question when

(22:57):
you get a hug from them it's themost genuine.
They're just infusing you withtheir love and they're just
lovely people.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Jason.
When Miranda and Eric werebuying their new place, I called
Jason and I said hey, can youcome take a look at this place?
And him and Kim came right out.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
When I got diagnosed with cancer, we had started
doing some home to floor and wewanted to get the bathroom done,
and I didn't.
He came over on his time, butthat was before he got shipped
down there, did all the work.
I mean he would take meshopping, show me what to buy,
what to do, and he dideverything just to get me just
before my cancer started.
And he did it all.
You know, and Just just, Ican't.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I can't do.
And then number 17 was um.
So when I went to primarypurpose my very first day,
dawson Both Mike and Dawson,right.
So when I first pulled up, Iremember you know how they sit
around outside.
Well, I pulled up and Mike wasthe first one to greet me,

(23:57):
dawson was the first one rightthere next to him and those two
guys.
So Mike was 17 and-.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
My wife has a great affinity for Dawson because when
she got to listen to him speakand when she drank in high
school for Dawson, because shegot to listen to him speak.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
And when she drank in high school, Dawson's father
invented Boone's Fairy Heel.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Oh, I love Boone's Farm.
That's a very cool drink.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, dawson was 22,.
Right, that's the best wineever.
That was $500.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
You can get it for 99 cents.
99 cents, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Right, right, number 18 was $500.
You can get it for 99 cents.
99 cents, it's awesome, notanymore, right?
Right, number 18 was we did theonly reason why I bring this up
, because this is when webrought Doug and Brad in
together and we did theCalifornia Sober, which is what
we talked about before.
You know, there was a littlecontroversy there.
We went through that, but itwas fun.
Right, we've done a lot oftopics, right?
I'm only talking about the onesthat the guests that we had on

(24:49):
Rob and I has done a ton of justone-on-ones, right, I mean the
one-on-ones where Rob and I justpick a topic and go do are some
of my funner ones, because we-we just like to fucking wind me
up.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I do and go.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I love fucking winding you up and in fact, I'm
going to mention that one herepretty soon, because it was one
of my funnest ones because heeven came in here and I'll talk
about it here in a minute.
So number 20 was a fun onebecause that's the one Katie
kept after me and after me afterJason.
Jason Allen, she kept Larry.

(25:23):
It's not finished, it's notfinished, it's not finished.
You've got to get the rest ofit.
And yes, so we brought Jason.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Well, just because, how far Jason has come in his
life and the blessings in whichhe has now as well, which I mean
.
How lucky is he that you knowhe walked through such a
horrible situation by having towatch his son deteriorate and
not want to live watch his sondeteriorate and not want to live

(25:51):
, and now he's got these youngerones that he gets that not a
second chance, because he stillhas his other children from his
first marriage as well, but hehas this blessing.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
But it is a second chance, it is.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
But he has this blessing of being able to really
be present and to love theseboys, and he's very lucky.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh, he's taking every advantage.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Every ounce of it.
And Jenny, his wife, you knowshe came on and then From the
block, yeah, jenny, from theblock.
And now she's got the.
I mean she's doing awesome withher sobriety stuff.
I mean the Sober Shit Show isher podcast and she's got all
kinds of stuff.
I mean every time I get onto.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Instagram-.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, she does her lashes the glow up.
Yeah, she's got a bunch goingon.
God love her.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
She's she's a hustler man.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Her and Jason.
Both are just hustlers.
They don't, they don't settledown to the word.
Oh yeah, they.
They just constantly moving,constantly moving.
So then when I talked aboutnumber 22, which was Dawson, and
then I think this next one isyou know, katie's got a cousin
that lives down in LA and she'sby far our biggest fan right.
When I, after these podcasts,land, I always wait for Laurel

(27:00):
to text me back.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
She texts me every every podcast she just gives me.
She's like one of my favoriteguests, Laurel.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Because it was different.
Right, we've been wanting toget a Celebrate Recovery, which
we tried, and we tried to get acouple different Celebrate
Recoveries, and I wanted to getNA on here.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
And they just run from us.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right.
I don't know why and I've saidthis from the very beginning Rob
and I are AA fanatics.
Right, that's the way we gotsober, but we're not affiliated
with AA.
For me, I don't care how youget sober, I really don't Get it
.
Find it, work it, find theserenity, find the peace.
Because, I've said this so manytimes, doing what I do is not

(27:45):
to stay sober anymore.
It's not at all If I'm missinga meeting, if I'm getting
anxious.
That's what I worry about more.
Is that anxiety coming in, thatanxiousness, when I don't have
my serenity and that peace.
You know Rob talks about thatfirst drink, when that is and
your body goes yeah, I get that.
That's what I look for, right,and I get that every time I see

(28:07):
Katie, or every time I talk tomy daughters, or every time I
get to touch my grandkids.
I get that from them, right,that's where I get that that
peace and that serenity.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I go to meetings to give back what I've been given.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
And when I could see another man react with be
successful on something that wedo.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
When they get it, when the lights turn on.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I love that.
You know yesterday, andyesterday, or not, wasn't
yesterday?
A couple of weeks back, therewas a guy that had less than 24
hours sitting in the meeting andas we were kind of going around
the room, you know anybody lessthan 30 days want to mention
their names, not not toembarrass you, just so we can
help you out.
Right, there was a guy sittingdown at the end of the table.
He says I got less than 24hours and he looked like it.

(28:46):
Oh, my gosh.
And you know what, robin?
You know I have such empathyfor that because I still still
so fresh in me that I can stillI know right where he's at.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
You feel that you can feel, feel that brokenness.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Feel the brokenness, I can feel the anxiousness.
I can just see it in his heartand in his mind and in his
eyeballs.
I could just see it.
I just I wanted to reach in andgrab it and pull it out and say
, let me hold onto this for alittle while till you figure it
out.
You know and I, you know and I,when I was my time to share is
all to him.
Right, this, it's going to getbetter.
Bud, it's going to get better.

(29:20):
Not everybody in this room hasgone through what you have, but
Laurel.
Laurel came in.
I went down that roadsidetracked, but Laurel came up
for Thanksgiving.
Laurel and Scotty, which isKatie's cousin, came up.
She calls him Richard, I callhim Scotty, and Robert.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Robert, sorry, robert their son is Richard.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Sorry.
Anyways, he's Scotty to me.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Scotty.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
And, uh, she was sitting downstairs and I go, you
know the podcast, the studios,because this is we call this our
Airbnb up here.
And I go, you know the studiois sitting right outside the
Airbnb.
I bet I can call Rob and we canrecord.
And she's like, really I go,yeah, you want to record,
Because you know she battleddepression, Her dad was an

(30:06):
alcoholic, she had a rough onegrowing up, but her biggest
thing, she battled some deepdepression and Katie and I were
dating during that period oftime and and um, and she did,
she did said yeah, and I calledRob.
I said, hey, get it.
This is one of those times, man, I called him, I said, hey,
let's, let's go.
And he's like on my way, and itwas one of my favorites and it
was one of Rob's favorites.

(30:27):
I mean, Rob dug into that one alot more than what I thought
you were going to and it was afun one.
That was number 23.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, she's special, she's real special Dude.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I love her.
She is very special.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, her and Cassie, besides my daughters, you know
her and Cassie Laurel and CassieLaurel and Cassie got my wife
through those 30 days that I wasgone, but they picked up where
I couldn't be and God love them.
I love Laurel, love you, laurel.

(30:57):
And number 25, and this waswhat was so ironic to this one
right, number 25 dropped onDecember 25th, on Christmas day,
and it was Brandon who had 90days right, that was 25 ago,
that was 25.
That was number 25.
And it dropped on December 25th.

(31:19):
It dropped on Christmas morningand, uh, we haven't missed a
Wednesday for 52 weeks when thatone dropped.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
It was crazy, just well on Saturday, me and
Brandon's son, justin, went tobecause Brandon had to work, so
I took Justin with me to watchthe fights To watch Logan yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
We had a great time and Brandon's doing well oh he's
amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh, he's doing awesome, he's doing awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, we gave him the treatment here, right.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
He was in a.
You know, I still remember himat Matt and Mary's wedding,
right, I mean, he was so green,he was so angry.
Good God, he was angry.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
But he's got through.
I mean he's doing.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, he's got it.
But see, and that's why we dothis right yeah, that right
there.
I love watching that stuff Towatch.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
another man, you know Mike's, another one but the
family, because I'm at atwo-hour talk with Josh on the
way back and just to talk withand how the family's oh yeah,
it's just God is so flippinggood, right, right, I mean when
we're not, but he is when youlet him do it.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Right saw this in the last couple of weeks with both
of the girls recording as wellis you hear these stories of
kids who are super angry becausetheir parents are or were
alcoholics.
But there are some where theydo have the ability to forgive
their parents for those.
And you know, and both of ourgirls they really have.
I mean McKenna very muchembraced it at Larry's sobriety

(32:47):
and was a cheerleader for him,huge cheerleader for him.
But again she was still livingat home and Miranda had a family
of her own but she was stillvery supportive and cheering
from the sidelines.
So your kids are deep downhappy for you because they want
you to get better.
They really do.
Or even if you have that broken, fractured relationship,

(33:09):
hopefully that will mend.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
They do.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
I know that Miranda and I's Miranda being on the
episode was huge for her and I'srelationship.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And I think eventually those two are going
to take over the top spot.
I really do.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I'm going to tell you right now they're already.
I can tell you those twoepisodes are not too far behind
Brad and Grace.
I've got a lot of.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I got a lot of response on those Right.
And one of the ladies onThursday.
She loved the doctor or thesoon to be doctor.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
So so here we go, right, that's number 28.
Which I loved, dr Rachel BerryRight.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
And I told her Well, hold on.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Hold on, was just Rachel Berry, right?
She was not a doctor yet Almost.
So I reached out to her twolike a month ago and I said and
she answered the call right awayand I go doctor, yet she goes
not.
Yet I got, she had six moreweeks.
I said, when you get thatdoctor, we want you back on.
And she says, absolutely, I'mgoing to come back on in person,
right?

(34:08):
In person back on in person,right in person.
So I'm so excited for her lovedthat episode a lot, right, in
fact, we were just talking aboutit.
The lady that's coming on inseptember, the the lady yeah,
she brought it up again.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
She's like he's the one that brought it up.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, she loved that yeah, she said one of my
favorite episodes was the doctorthat you had on, because she,
she had such a different outlookand a different perspective and
it was the.
You know, it was the firstperson that had more brains than
anybody that we'd had on thispodcast that had a Except for
you, of course.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, I you guys were .
You're a close second, larry Iwas above and beyond.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You know, above and beyond.
It took a lot to get up to me,so it took doctor to do that.
You know which was.
And hers was so much funbecause we did get.
What was so fun about that andthat's why I got this big
monitor behind me now is becausewe did hers on Zoom and Rob
couldn't see her face, so Robkept trying to talk as she was
talking.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I asked a question and then or I'll say something I
didn't know there was a delay.
There was a delay.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Because I could see Rachel here but rob couldn't see
her.
That's why I ended up puttingthis on for up here before those
zoom calls, and it was justfunny could have just made him
sit in this chair right.
I didn't think that it was whywould they want him?
Right, it was just too funny.
Anyways, that was number 28.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Get a whole new TV.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Number 29.
$50,000,.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Katie.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
We're going video first.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
No but I know that she's all.
No, I'm telling you.
I said can this studio make alittle bit of money before we
put out more?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
money, but when we do , it's going to be for like an
A13C.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I've talked about that a little bit.
I've actually cut it out.
My ultimate goal is to get towhere this is.
I've said this from the verybeginning I'm not taking
donations, or I'm not taking no,I'm sorry, I will take
donations.
I'm not going to takesponsorship.
I'm not, you know, donations,or I'm not taking no, I'm sorry,
I will take donations.
I'm not going to takesponsorship, right, I'm not
going to be sponsored.
I'm not going to have somebodyelse tell us what we can or

(36:10):
cannot.
Say I won't do it.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I won't do it at all if I want to talk about
something we're going to talkabout it like a silent
sponsorship yeah, I mean, ifsomebody well and that's what
I'm talking about going into the503c and going through and
opening up it's like what justhappened with uh, I mean the
young man that we got veryhelped with, sean, or in getting
the young man of the maynardsright oh yeah, I mean I didn't
have insurance right and he waslike ready, what we thought he

(36:34):
was.
He turned out to be right.
He's doing good.
No, doing great so sunday, um.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
so I I'm gonna open up a non-profit, we're gonna
turn this into a nonprofit andI'm kind of excited for that.
There's a lot of work to do,but felt that they wanted to do
something that they couldsponsor someone themselves, like

(37:09):
they could send money to me.
Absolutely, they do do that.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, sean, sean I mean, that would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Sean or once.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Sean, sean, I mean she's going to come on.
God bless her because Larrymakes a phone call and if she
doesn't answer it, her becauseLarry makes a phone call and if
she doesn't answer it she callshim very quickly.
And Larry's worked with her andRob and Rob through Larry to
her and whatever way it happensbut she makes it happen for

(37:43):
someone.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
She's awesome, she cares about.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
She cares about the person more than she does the
money by by a long shot, but itis a business, absolutely it's a
business.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right.
So the next two, 29 and 30, waswas yeah, west side John is
dude.
I love me some West side John.
He's one of the biggest.
He's one of the biggest fans Igot and I love that man to death
.
He rides with me to the Monday.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Monday mornings or the Monday evening meetings.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Do we have John on, then John and Heather?
No, no, no.
So we had Westside John on, soJohn came back right.
So we had John on and thenHeather right behind her.
And if you haven't listened toHeather's number, eight's a
bitch.
That woman battled.
She battled some serious stuffand that was a great episode.
I love that one.
Yeah, she.

(38:28):
You know.
What was so fun about that oneis I started seeing her in
meetings.
She started going back tomeetings after that one because
I encouraged her.
She has such a good story.
I really do want her to have bemore involved.
And then, uh, then John cameback in after that because he
felt like he had some stuff leftover.
So let's see he, that was 29,30.
He came in and 36, I think, iswhen he came back.

(38:51):
And then 38 is our 38 and 39was Nathan.
Right, Nathan, God, what.
What a joy that has been towatch.
It was since, even since then,oh my gosh, just when he was
here on 38.
And then how he just propelledafter that Back in with his wife
.
They're getting married, fromwhat I'm understanding.

(39:11):
Oh yeah, and just watching allthat Saw him.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
This weekend they came to the fights and Nathan,
we got to help, because I wassitting there watching Logan too
much and Nathan did some videosfor me.
Right, I sent them to you.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Just watching, that has been, I know.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Nathan said you know he would come to our house with
TJ and Jason and watch fightnights.
When he was a little kid, youknow, 16, 17 years old.
He remembers the Jack Daniels.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I think he was older than that, though he was 17 when
he started working with TJReally.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
He was that young.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, baby.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Oh wow, he's been.
Watching him come out is just,you know him and I had a little
bit of a disagreement in thevery beginning, you know, when
we first started a little bit,just a little bit of clash, and
then, you know, it was kind ofweird.
He disappeared for a littlewhile.
And then, you know, when hecame in here and he started

(39:58):
telling his story and I was ableto watch him, you know I have
so much respect for that man towatch him struggle and go
through that emotional,emotional and sober and just
emotionally just strugglingthrough that and just working
through that.
And just, you know, he'd beensober for seven years before
he's six, right Before hestarted down this, this path.

(40:19):
And now seeing him, I mean he'scut his hair, he's.
Just look at him, I mean he'sjust working out all the time.
He's just, he's just so it'sfun to watch.
He's just a different bird man.
Um, let's see.
Then that was Nathan and thenMike, and so then 40 and 40, 41
and 42 was Mikey Stillman andJason A together.
Right, that was the first timethat they had sat across from

(40:43):
each other in 18 years andtalked about and talked about.
That's the first time they hadtalked about the wreck together
in the same room at the sametime.
And it was.
It was incredible to watch.
And Mikey Stillman is just, andhe's not afraid to say his last
name Watching him, or he's atright now.

(41:05):
Once again, he's another one ofthose guys that we've had the
privilege of watching him comeout, oh my gosh, and see him and
to hear him say I love you andto give you a hug, and to watch
just that bright light.
You know what and I listen tohim do the AA logos and the
stuff that he says in the AAit's just so fun to listen to

(41:26):
because he gets it right.
He gets it.
And then 45 was Mike and hiswife Kim, when they came in
together to talk about therecovery afterwards right the
family afterwards and to watchthat and to hear Kim talk about
her struggles with her.
You know, her attempt atcommitting suicide and what Mike

(41:47):
didn't even realize that wascoming to right.
I told Katie this before westarted, before we started
recording 52, that you know weget to talk and we forget these
mics are there, right, and somany of these episodes that we
go through that we just thepeople that we're interviewing,
they just get so comfortablebehind the mics and I think it's
a lot to do with me, though Ithink I may be, you're an idiot.

(42:12):
Oh, maybe Rob a little bit.
No, it ain't me.
You know they're kind ofimpressed that somebody so small
can move like he can.
That's what I think they'reimpressed with, and they just
come out.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I feel like you're jealous of his muscles.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I really impressed with and they just come out.
I feel like you're jealous ofhis muscles.
I really am, bonnie.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I bonnie, I really am always bring up.
You're jealous, he's the hotone.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
I am very jealous, that comes from true wife.
Right there, you got the hotwife.
I know stop anyway.
So that was 40, 45 and then, uh, 49 was christy and blake.
Which Blake was my sponsee, myvery first?
Well, no, he was my number four, but he's the only one I didn't
kill.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Right or chase out of your house.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Chase out of my house .
Oh my God, blake's awesomeAgain.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Larry is 0 to 100.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
If you're not also 0 to 100.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Get the fuck out.
He doesn't want to mess withyou.
Get the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And there are certain people and God brings me
certain men that are brokenenough.
They're ready, right, they'reready to go the way you know.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I just I move at the speed, I move at the speed of
pain and we should yes, becausethat window of willingness
closes.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Okay, but let's give Blake you know a shout out
because he put up with Larry.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Oh no, hey that man.
But you can tell Katie thelevel of desire for sobriety
someone wants when they're readyto do that, blake wants it.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
He wants it like fucking breath.
He was so desperate that heused Larry.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
All right, I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
We beat the shit into him.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
There had to be a right fit somewhere in there,
and God bless him for it.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It was awesome.
You know, the best thing aboutthat one is he wanted to do the
plain language, which I stillhave right here.
Fuck that book.
And you know what?
Listen you fucker, youprejudiced son of a bitch.
You stop it.
That book has brought a lot ofpeople to sobriety and we've
talked about this.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Fuck that book.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You fucker.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
But that's about like talking about the King James
Bible versus the.
Niv or the NAS or somethinglike that.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
The NIV-84 is not bad .
The new NIV sucks, but theNIV-84 is not bad.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
And I've said this from the very beginning.
But you're right.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Whatever gets you through it.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
You're right, katie, but hey, if it helps people, god
bless it.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Step four when we were going through four and five
, he started bringing his otherbig book.
I can promise you that becausehe realized that the hammer
right that the big book theoriginal big book has is not the
same as that.
They soften it up way too much.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
That's the only problem I have with it Right.
It's too soft.
You don't need to soften it upfor the alcohol.
He needs to be kicked in thefucking ass, Right.
I mean, pat him on the backwhen he needs it, lift him up
when he needs it, but more timesthan not they need to see own
their shit, Right.
And that one doesn't.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
No, it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
It doesn't have the same purpose it sugarcoats it,
it sugarcoats it way too much,just like two wives Right.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Stupid chapter.
Fuck Now Ryan.
Hey, I thought Ryan got youpast that?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
No, overall it's a prick chapter because the dude
wrote it and he should let hiswife write it, in my opinion.
But there are some nuggets, andRyan brought out another
perspective, right, right, andthere's a gal at the Thursday
night meeting named Stephanie.
She brings her daughter.
She also brought it because shewas a woman who had that
husband and now she's in therooms and she's been that wife,
wow.
So she gave me a differentperspective.

(45:18):
So there are, anyway.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
But it's not as bad as I thought it would.
So, 50, 51, and 52, babyMcKenna, miranda and then Katie
and Bonnie yeah, those are thelast three.
So that's our year and I'm soglad that blessed right, that we
got to finally have Katie andBonnie in here, because you know
, the wives behind us areamazing right, and I said it

(45:46):
from the very beginning you twoladies allowing us to do this
and take time away from you.
Thank you, babe, for allowingme.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
It's no problem, I aim to please.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Generous mother, I just but it's given of your time
, it's still that admonitionthat you are allowing him it's
giving.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Are you going to allow?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
him to do something else If he asks, nicely.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
In a very vanilla way .

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I'll blow you a kiss, I'll wave to you out the door.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Bye bitch.
It's just.
You know you're given of yourtime.
The same way we give up ourtime, you have to give that time
to allow us to go do this.
And you know the rewards havebeen amazing, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
And my wife above all I mean above anybody else that
I've seen yet has really givenme.
I guess she knows, and there'stimes she's like can I have a
day?
Yeah, because God will nevergive you more.
Yes, he fucking will.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yep, he will.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's up to us to say yes or no.
It's up to us, and I have ahard time saying no, because
when I reached out for help, noone told me no.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
And I have no problem with him working with people.
I actually love it.
I want everyone to have what Ihave.
The only thing that pisses meoff is when they don't take it
serious.
They stop showing up Okay youjust took two hours.
We had plans.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
But he was going to go help you because you needed
that help.
You didn't show up, so I justlost out on.
So as long as they take itseriously and make an effort, I
don't mind.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Goes back to your rules.
That's a rule for you.
She's talking about onespecific person and I, babe and
uh, on last monday I broughtthat up.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
So we, you know, we talked and I brought that up to
that person because normally,but you also, celebrate his
sponsee successes as well I meanyou don't know what's what he
and Rob are talking about or anyof those things, but you
celebrate those sponsees or youknow somebody Larry will mention
.
They become part of the life.
You know if they become part ofthe family, like we drove by,

(48:07):
the construction company righthere.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
My first sponsee is Max.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I love Max.
He's the cutest little kid.
He's so cute.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
But then he comes and he's like you know.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
He come and do.
He carved pumpkins with us.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, he made.
It was, you know, 14 years ago,right.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Christmas stockings Just becomes part of your family
.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah it just.
But you can't Number one.
That's anonymity.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Number two, my rule number two what you say to me
and what I say to you staysbetween you, me and God.
It ain't my wife's fuckingbusiness.
That's how I tell them KingRight, and it ain't your.

(48:48):
Us right, and I don't want your.
I don't know, it's not, theydon't want, but it's.
It's an also level of trust.
Trust for sure.
I have to get that level oftrust.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
I get to order the coins, yeah is it okay that I
bring up the 13th though?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
yeah, I mean what his my tiara?
That you had the wrong year onthis just recently you know what
sucks is?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I had it in my phone, right.
I had it on the calendar, right.
But for some reason, when Iordered stuff and not only that
me and Emily were so excited Meand Emily are the ones that did
it we were so excited.
Emily came home so we couldstart decorating the house.
And I'm like, dude, it's nextmonth, it's not even this month.

(49:23):
She's like like, are you sure?
And I'm like, no, I wasn't, butI was informed that's next
month, so then the next monthcomes.
I gotta put it up.
He's like you didn't even getthe year right and I'm like does
it really matter?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
and he's like, actually, yes you know, and then
that was on my head.
I had the sash instead of 13.
I said what's?
What's?
This shows you're not going tolet me take a picture.
I said if it's in the rightyear, fuck yeah, you can take a
picture.
I look good.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I've been in this thing lately.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
I like to buy in stupid shirts.
You know how big you're goingto have to go next year.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Just wait, just wait, I'll have you over Next year is
oh, you're getting a ball gown.
You're getting a big old ballgown.
If it says the right shit, I'llwear it.
It's going to be so sparkly.
It's a big ceremony too.
Have you seen us?

Speaker 4 (50:15):
wear that dresses.
Yes, we just went to one.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
They're so fancy.
They are so fancy You're goingto look lovely, but then he has
to have his friends dance withhim.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I'll dance with you, rob, I know I bought this prick
a nice freaking coin for hisbirthday and he sits there and
goes.
I want you to give it to me atthe birthday night, at primary
Right, so that which was the21st.
I have this all set up whereI'm going to go.
So I actually give him the coinon the podcast because I wanted
to give it to him, because Ithink it was your actual day of

(50:46):
your birthday.
We were recording.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
It was a great episode.
You had people call in.
Yeah, it was a great.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Oh, that's right, I didn't write that in there.
That was super fun.
Yeah, that was a Rob birthdayone.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
June 1st.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
June 1.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
June 1st 2011,.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Which means I have 14 years Another birth.
See what I get from birth heyand then, I'm getting ready to
go.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Wait, June 1st is your non-belly birthday.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, december 13th is my belly birthday.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Can I point first?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
is your sobriety.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Bonnie's coming back here.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, Can I point something out?
Knock it out, Jen.
Sorry I don't have, but I dohave a belly button birthday
that has been forgotten twoyears.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
October 20th.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
But the day came and gone and I didn't hear nothing
from you and the kids and Itried to keep it really quiet.
I was like hiding the phonecalls from my mom and my aunt
just because you know the throatand their faces, but I rarely
forget.
When the day went by.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Obviously you've forgotten twice.
Yes, I have.
So that ain't rarely becausethey, Because they only come
around once a year.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
The whole family.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
All of them.
And then Logan comes in thatnight and he's all mom, happy
birthday, and I was like thanks.
I was like you remember?
And he's like, well, I know youand Emma have the same birthday
and they just posted happybirthday pictures for Emma on
Instagram or whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
But my mother-in-law texted me something.
I was like, oh shit, and I, mymother-in-law, text me something
.
I was like, oh shit, and I go,okay, hold on.
But in my fucking defense, why?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
why you gotta go there, why you go there you?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
own your shit, own your shit.
I forgot, but there we go but?
But from the first umpteenthyears of our marriage.
Who was the one that remembereddates?

Speaker 1 (52:18):
oh, I never remember dates.
He always remembers dates, Inever remember I forgot two out
of 25 I get my kids birth datesright because you always have to
give it at the doctor.
I always had their birthdaysdown, but everyone just like a
woman.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
She's gonna remind me of the two that I forgot but
not the 23, that I fuckingremembered hey, step forward,
let me finish.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
My fucker, go ahead.
You asked me to fucking giveyou your coin a birthday night
at primary.
I'm getting ready to fucking goand I go.
I texted him.
He's like no, I'm not going,I'm like I'll go to jiu-jitsu,
jiu-jitsu.
Motherfucker, I'm dressed, getready to go to primary to give
you your fucking coin.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You prick I'd have showed up at the jiu-jitsu place
and been like, stop, stop, Ihave something to do.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
If I hadn't already given him his actual coin, I
would have no shoes on the matso anyways, yeah, there's a.
This has been fun and I'mexcited to do it again.
Rob has signed on for anotherone year contract, so you
allowed it.
Thank you, bonnie.
I love you.

(53:22):
Ladies love you, rob.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
I may allow you to buy something else for FFF
Studios maybe.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I may allow Rob to throw in on it.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
I am hoping.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I forgot to allow before I love it.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I'm actually.
I do want to go to video, right?
The video may be most of thetime, just Rob and myself, right
?
Because a lot of times ourguests most of the guests so far
are perfectly fine with beingon the video.
I'd refuse it no, you wouldn'tyes.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I would.
No, yes, I would.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
But there is a lot of Well we have pretty people on.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
We got to have that.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
We have especially me , right?
I mean, I'm the prettiest onehere, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
So, but you know what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
I'm going to have to comb my hair and stuff if we do
go video, but the biggest thingis you ain't got none.
I think the biggest thing forme why I want to go video is
because you see the sincerity ofpeople's face and their body
language.
I just think it's just peopleare missing sincerity.
You fucking guy man, You're anidiot.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
You're an idiot.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I'll leave a dumbbell right over here.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
You really have done some good work, though, honestly
.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Thank you for joining us.
What was that, katie, throwthat back.
I'm not cutting that off.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
You really do some good work, sometimes despite
Larry's fuck-ups, and I say,katie, thank you very much.
That's very thoughtful,appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Can you tell where Larry's ADD ADHD kicks in?
Because I can.
Sometimes I'm like Larry.
There was more to that and youjust shut it down.
I think he sees.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
When he's done, he's done.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Yeah, seriously, there should be a sticky note on
top of the minutes the timethere, because I know that you
can see that and you're like oh,we've got to shut this down.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
This is normally on right here.
I don't know why I didn't wantto connect today, but that's
normally on where everybody cansee it.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I do the same thing sometimes.
My wife's favorite sentenceRight, I guess I was done
talking.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Oh, Katie does it to me all the time.
Katie does it to me all thetime and I'm working on it.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I'll wait for you to finish.
Did I interrupt you?
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
You know what I think with their thoughts, those ADD,
adhd thoughts.
They're like got to get it outbecause they're going to forget
about it.
It's going away.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Yeah, you've moved on to the next one.
It's interrupted the beginningof yours.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
You know what, out of respect to you, katie, you're
not the only one I do it to, oh.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
I know I promise you yeah, but she's the last one you
should do it to.
No, I hear it on here.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
I'm like Larry, my boss is as bad as I am and if
people and we get each other,but we get each other right.
So he interrupts me and Iinterrupt him.
It's fine, we just shift gearsand go on to what he's talking
about, because we match eachother's craziness on our ADHD
and if you were an outsider tolisten to him and I talk, you

(56:19):
would be fucking lost, lost.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Oh, why Does he jump from one subject to the other
and then go back to the firstand can't figure out why?
You don't know what he'stalking about yep, just like I
do or he'll come in there andtell me something.
Huh, what are you talking?
Oh, I must have been talking tosomeone else did I talk to you
about this?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
I, I do.
I don't have it.
I had a thyroid issue, or havea thyroid issue, I should say.
So that affects me on my liketrain of thought too.
Oh yeah, and some days it's badEven grasping your word.
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I love watching Katie get locked.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I don't know what your problem is.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I love watching Katie get locked up because I'm like
you did it.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
It's bad.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Bonnie doesn't get locked up, she just runs into
shit.
That's been in our houseforever.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
You would think we have like a huge house, right?
No, walk into the hallway.
I run into the same wall.
It catches me in the corner inthe hip every time.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
And we all get to see it.
Katie's got a picture thathangs in the kitchen.
I knock that thing off all thetime.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I cut the corner too fast and if Bonnie's going to
throw something at you, don'tduck or move, because she's a
poor shot.
If you duck or move, she'll hityou.
Stand still, that fucker'sgoing right by you.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
I think it's funny, she's throwing shit at you.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Should we test that that?
Can you step away a little bit?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
No, there was one time I did not miss.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
And then you get a like Go hide real quick and he
just gives you that Were youstunned that you actually hit
him yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
But she aims at the face though all the time.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Oh, there he goes again.
Love you guys.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Love you guys Love you guys.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Oh there he's gone.
Thank you for joining us todayDid I.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
If you did not come back next week, and we'll try
again.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
If you like what you heard, give us a five-star
review.
If you don't like what youheard, kiss my ass.
I can't say that, can you?
Anyway, if you don't like whatyou heard, go ahead and tell us
that too.
We'll see what we can improve.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
We probably won't change nothing, but do it anyway
.
Hey, thanks, different andsomething will sink in.
Take care, this has beenRecovery Unfiltered.