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June 11, 2025 53 mins

In the 10th episode of the Red Book Podcast, hosts John Feigenbaum and Jeff Garrett have a dynamic conversation with Max Spiegel, President of Certified Collectibles Group (parent company of NGC, PMG, CGC, JSA, ASG). 

Max, who has an extensive background in numismatics and started with CCG in 2010, shares insights into the company's rapid growth and expansion into various verticals such as stamps, trading cards, sports cards, video games, and more. 

The discussion covers CCG's global footprint, the importance of third-party authentication, and emerging trends in collectibles like Pokemon cards. Max also discusses the challenges in maintaining quality, identifying talent, and leveraging AI in the grading process. Additionally, the episode touches on exciting upcoming events, such as the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence release from the US Mint, and the end of the US penny, highlighting their potential impact on the collectibles market.

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