Nostalgia Vibes

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In this episode of the Red Lips Real Talk Podcast, hosts Jasmin, Jessica, Monica, Maritza, and Deibys reminisce about their lives growing up during the 90s. They reflect on the strong bonds of friendship, the impact of music and culture, and the freedom they experienced without social media. They share stories about fashion, clubbing, and experiences that shaped their youth. The discussion also touches on the recent controversies surrounding hip-hop artists, which have tainted some of their nostalgic memories. The hosts emphasize the importance of friendship, community, and the shared experiences that defined their formative years.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey chicas, welcome to Red Lips Real Talk podcast.
I'm Jasmin.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Jessica, I'm Monica.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm Maritza and I'm Davis with a Y.
Get ready, somos Latinas fromSouth Florida.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bringing you real talk on life, love and
everything in between.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Time to get real, dale.
Hey everyone, welcome back toRed Lips.
Real Talk, hey, maritza.
Hey everyone, welcome back toRed Lips, real Talk, hey,
maritza, hey.
So today we're diving into somenostalgia.
So just the other day I wasgoing through my photo albums
Jessie and I was going throughthe pictures for the book you
were putting together forMaris's 50th and my daughter was

(00:40):
looking through them.
She started asking me tons ofquestions like who's this?
Oh my God, is this Jasmin?
Is this Jessica?
Is this Monica?
And we had like tons ofdiscussions about the pictures
that I had and it just floodedmemories, the great memories
that we had when we were at thatage the nineties.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know we've known each other since.
Well, I met you technically inmiddle school, but we weren't
friends because you, you didn'tlike me most people don't like
me when they first meet me.
But yeah, jesse, you had abeautiful idea.
You had mentioned let's try andcollect pictures, that's right.
Yeah, so we can do like alittle collage for maris's 50th

(01:18):
birthday.
And I didn't realize how manypictures I had and I was like,
damn my tits look good.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, it really got me reflecting on how music and
culture shaped our childhood.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I mean, I know, when we got together with Maris, we
went to that restaurant and itwas a brunch place which I
highly recommend.
It was in Fort Lauderdale.
It was called Cafe Bastille.
Was it Cafe Bastille, whichthey have some in Miami as well?
Beautiful place.
What was the girl's name?
Again, let's give her a shoutout.
Goodness gracious, she had likethis little accident.
Marissa was like are you fromTrinidad?
And she was like yeah, and shewas like I knew it.

(01:56):
Anyway, we can't remember hername, but she was lovely, she
was, and everybody showed up.
And another friend of ours,maria, showed up who lives in
another country.
She's an expat and I don't know.
Maris just came in and she waslike I love you guys so much and
I want to thank you for thesisterhood, and she was just
like you guys don't know howmuch you mean to me, and I was

(02:17):
like Maris, like what we have.
Maris didn't like me either.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
I just want to.
It takes time, it takes time,it takes time.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
It takes time to love me, but anyway she's the first
one in the crew to turn 50.
And looking back at thosepictures I was like fuck man,
I'm so, I'm so proud that wegrew up in the 90s.
Bitches, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
We're the ones that grew up with no social media, so
nobody knows what the fuck wedid.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Nope, listen, for me, like those days just being part
of the hip hop culture and thebeginnings of it was an outlet
for me.
It was a time, you know it was,we were all teenagers, right,
we were teenagers and I justremember, like the music, that
was just such an important timeand for me it just spoke to my

(03:08):
heart, it spoke to my soul andit was like we had that
connection with the music, thelyrics, what it said, it
represented, like it was likefrozen in time and it's just
nostalgic.
All you could do is just listenand just think back of like
those times where you were freeor responsibility oh my God,

(03:29):
yeah, and all we had was eachother and we just loved to just
listen to music, dance.
We were not looking for trouble, we were just out to just.
And you know what I loved aboutthe music is that it helped us
always want to be with eachother.
You know we all had our thingsgoing on at home.
You know we had I was going tosay we were immigrant parents
struggling, surviving.

(03:50):
All they were trying to do isjust keep us alive, put food on
the table, a roof over our heads, and don't go out and go and
get pregnant and get in trouble.
That was on my time, that wason me.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
My mother would be like yes, please.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
El.
That was how me my mother wouldbe like El Diablo está en la
calle.
The music was there for us.
Yeah, the music was there.
The culture was there for us,it was there, monica pobrecita
your mom.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
may she rest in peace .
I loved your mom.
She was an amazing woman.
Monica wasn't allowed to hangout with us.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
No, no, you know what we would do.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
What we would do is show up to her place and hang
out with her until we werekicked out of the house.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I used to go along for the ride, that's right.
Whoever's house they weregetting ready at, I was there
just watching everyone get ready, and then, when it was time to
go, I'd drop me off, or we'dhang out in the parking lot
outside and we'd come see youbefore we head out.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Aww that's good.
Your mom was always looking outfor you.
Well, you were the only girl.
She had three boys, so I get it.
But Monica would be like havefun.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Her brother was looking out for her too, though
yeah, he was like no, she can'tcome.
No, exactly, she can't go.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, let's go.
But Deibys, you couldn't hangout with us because you were
three, four years younger.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
And you know, when you're 16 and you're 12, 13, you
know.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, yeah, I was still hanging out and probably
doing things I shouldn't havebeen doing, you know.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
But you know.
But you know what was beautifulabout that era?
First of all, there was nointernet.
No, no social media Right, andwe would call each other yeah
Right, we had our beepers.
Yes, what are you going to wear?
That's right, everything wasabout that.
What polo shirt color?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
are you going to wear ?
If you're going to wear purple,I'm going to wear turquoise.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Or Timberlands and my baggy clothes.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean, it was the whole era, was the fashion
on point, it was a vibe, I don'teven know how I could afford
those clothes.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, we had nicknames and listen, yeah, I
already said it in anotherpodcast, so I'm going to say it
again I grew up in poverty.
So, my friends and listen, thisis the truth.
Like many times I was sohumiliated that I didn't have
money to go out and you guyswould be like Jay, let's go.
And I'd be like I can't, Ican't.
How many times did Jessica andMaritza and other friends would

(06:17):
be like I got you, I got you.
How many times did my friendstell me no, you're coming, I got
you.
And I'd be like no, no, no, Idon't, you know.
I'd be like, don't worry, I gotyou.
And those are the things thatfor me, like you don't know this
friendship.
You don't know what we had and,yeah, my nickname was no loot,
but whatever it was oh my God,listen, maritza had a piggy bank

(06:38):
.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
I was.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Who had the five gallon water?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh yeah, I know those .
Those are very popular.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
That's what her and I used to rate.
I would be like our gas moneyand we pour that shit out.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Feeding everybody for Taco Bell.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Taco Bell, we had the paper.
That was always the place.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yes, and I always knew your order.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Jessica would be like let me get a bean burrito with
extra cheese.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
No, red sauce Extra sour cream.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, but no joke, that shit was fire, bro At 3 am For
69 cents, bitch.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yes, the Supreme ones were like 79 cents and we
didn't care how long we had tostay on that line, because it
was a hangout spot.
We met so many people on thatline.
No, because it was a hangoutspot.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, everybody would just be like we met so many
people on that line.
We did.
We made new friends in thatline.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's true, and you don't remember when we would
have days off in Broward, butthey were still open in Miami
and we would go to HML HialeahMiami Lakes High School.
Those boys were fine as hell.
That's when I should have knownthat I was going to be with a
Cuban.
I'm here like Armando grítamefor five minutes, I like it.
Just in case you don't know,that's Pitbull's real name.

(07:54):
Oh my gosh, Pitbull if you'relistening.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
I lived in Miami.
I never knew that, armando.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Perez, I'm sorry, hello Me either.
Okay, armando, he probably wentto HMO.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Oh, probably.
Yeah, he probably did.
He grew up in.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Hialeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know ifhe would have just yelled at me
for five minutes.
I would have been like I loveyou.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
If you have the yearbook, we'd like you to send
us a picture.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right, Can you sign my yes?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
those were the best times.
The best times, I mean.
I would never replace onesecond of my life for that the
chance.
Like the moments we sharedtogether as friends, it was
special to me.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
And you know, what I love too about that time is like
we just like we were all onsurvival mode and we just hung
out.
We just loved having fun andlistening to music.
And I do remember and I thinkthis was like really important
about that time is that theradio was something really
important during that erabecause it made you feel like

(08:52):
you were part of a community.
Because, like, especially when,like how I was bringing up
Monica the other day, like inNew York at least I know we're
in South Florida right now butthere was a time where it was
like in Hot 97 with everybodyknows Angie Martinez yeah for
sure, and it was like the battleof the beats that was fire, yes
, and you had to call up and itwould be like the hottest songs

(09:14):
and the only place that you canhear it would be on the radio,
yeah, yeah.
And you felt like you were likeunited with everybody else,
wherever you were.
You could be in New Yorkork,wherever, but it just felt like
you had to be somewherelistening to that song that was
gonna come out, yeah, and thebest too was like recording your
songs, like you'd wait, youwouldn't.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, like people really appreciated mixtapes
because the djs, yeah, and likethe effort that went into it,
just yourself though, like ifyou made them.
You know, my husband is likebig in music so he would make
mixtapes all the time, but youwould have to wait for the song
to come on the radio, oh yeah,and want to like to record it.
You know, remember, like thosetimes I, I love that, and then
before all that napster yes,before that came before all that

(09:56):
shit, all that.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Like you had to buy an album to hear the whole album
.
You would just hear one hotsong on the radio.
That's right, but you had toget the album to hear the whole
shit you know who was the masterof the mixtapes maritza's mom
okay, let me, let me correct.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Um, it was actually my dad, but I was.
I was gonna say before you saidthat I was gonna bring up that,
yeah, I grew up around that.
I grew up around music becausemy dad owned the record store.
That's right.
My parents, my parents, ownedthe record store.
That was one of our hot spots,yeah, so if you're out there and
you know about Musically,that's right, it has a history.

(10:35):
It has a history.
Yeah, that is so cool.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
It was a big part and it was a big part and Jasmine
Jasmine used to work there for alittle while.
I used to work there for alittle while.
I used to work there for threemonths for 50 bucks a weekend
and I was like bitches, I gotmoney.
$50 in the 90s was a lot ofmoney.
Yeah, it was.
It's on me.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
And all the hit, all the hot music, like it was just
we would get all our hot trackslike everything, everything that
just came out, although, evenlike the DJs, funkmaster, flex,
new stuff that would come out,it would be you guys with Saleh.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
My brother was a DJ, remember, and your brother too,
martha.
Yes, yes, yes, they were DJs.
Vinyl records, oh, that was somuch fun.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Well, he was around too during that music.
You know, like when we had themusic store.
He knows all about it.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
My brother was a DJ.
Like he used to DJ at clubs.
He has pictures with MarkAnthony.
That's cool.
That's cool, awesome, it wasawesome.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
You know, the first time that I ever heard gin and
juice was with your mom.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
My mom yes, my mom used to jam Her mom was the
coolest person I had ever met.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
And she's like Yasmim , come here, we're going.
I had ever met.
And she's like Yasmín, ven acá,vas a hacer esto.
And then all of a sudden youhear like, with so much drama,
and the LBC is being hard, it'skind of hard being Snoop and I'm
like, señora, ¿qué es eso?
Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yes, my mom knew.
Yes, she knew, and I, so thisday I talk about artists that
existed back in those days, Likeyou know, like they're still
around, and she's like I know,jose, jose Quinez.
Oh my God, that is adorable.
I love that.
You know what?

Speaker 5 (12:11):
memory I have, like when we went to the beach and
the song from Wu-Tang Kareemcame out like the whole album
and we wanted to know the lyricsto that song and we had our
cassette player that we keptrewind playing.
Rewind playing and we were likewhat were they saying?
Cash rules everything around me.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Cream get the money.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Dollar, dollar bill, y'all.
Well, see, that's the thing.
Now you go to Google what arethe lyrics of?
Oh yeah, you guys, if you'reyoung and you're listening to us
, thank you.
First of all, thank you, butyou don't know.
Like the struggle.
What did he say?
Rewind it, jessica, rewind, Iknow, rewind it.
He said cash rules, everythingaround me, oh, cream, get it

(12:53):
Cream.
That's literally what we wentthrough.
Write it down, Write it down,write it down.
That's right, that was such agood song.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
That's how I learned to study.
I'm kidding.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Serious, because that's how I used to learn
lyrics.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
I used to write them down and as soon as I finished
the whole entire song, I knew itby heart.
Yeah, I didn't have to go backand read it.
Yeah, because I wrote it alldown, memorization.
So when I I started school,college, yeah, yeah, yeah, more
so right, and that's how Ilearned everything.
I would just write everythingfrom word to word and that's how
I would remember.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Who was like for you guys.
Who was like for you guys, likethe hottest female hip hop
artist ever.
There's a lot Lyricist,Lyricist.
There's so many.
I know mine.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's hard for me to say Well, me to say one, but if
I'm going to take it really,really way back, I think the one
, well, there's two, there's two, I'm going to have to say
Salt-N-Pepa and Queen Latifahfor me.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Queen Latifah's there .
She's definitely one.
They were the.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
OGs and they were-.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
UNITY, I was just thinking that in my head UNITY.
That's the unity.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Who you calling a bitch, I know, oh, you know what
I'm going to take it more back.
Ladies first, ladies first,Ladies first.
Ooh, ladies first, ladies first.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
The thing was is that I'm not trying to bash the
music of today, because everygeneration has the music that
they like, and there's stuffthey're playing today that I
like, but it is much moresexualized, let's admit, and I
think that I don't know youdon't remember little Kim, girl?

Speaker 5 (14:31):
I was just gonna say so.
I'm gonna say, like, regardinglittle Kim, like the two people
for me was little Kim, cause shewas raunchy, but she was, yes,
but she was also straight up inyour face and I love that about
her.
Would I play her in front of mykids?
No, no.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
You got me there, you're right.
You're right.
I was thinking about more oflike.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Lauren Hill is, to me , the best lyricist ever.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
She had a song that I did the whole, like you guys
are saying, the Cream song thatI played over and over again and
it was from her Miss Educationalbum.
I played over and over againand it was from her Miss
Education album.
I can't remember the name ofthe song Best album but I would
try to sit there and play itover again because I wanted to
know Was it doo-wop?
No, it was.
I'm like I'm getting old.
My brain is like not workinganymore.
I got to remember this song.
When I think of it, I'll tellyou, but it was like I remember

(15:21):
that point.
It was a little bit later and Iwould rewind it and rewind it,
and rewind it because I wantedto memorize it.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
You'd be imitating Al Capone, I'd be Nina Simone and
deprecating on your microphoneyes, she was poetic poetic is
the word to describe her.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I'm so glad you brought that up, because Lauryn
Hill is very special, oh yes,absolutely MC Light, mc Light.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
yes, I love her.
She just came because LaurynHill is very special.
Oh, yes, absolutely MC Lyte, mcLyte, yes.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
I love her.
She just came out with an album.
Yes, did she, did she?
Yes, she did Really Wait aminute.
Wasn't it this year that theycelebrated the 50th year
anniversary of hip hop?
Yes, they had the whole lengthconcerts going on.
They had Nas, they had.
They had Lauren Hill performedwith Nas.
I saw that on YouTube.
That was beautiful.
It was like lengthy.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm really glad that you brought up Lauren Hill
because, for whatever reason, Iwasn't thinking of her when I
started dating my husband.
We're like a little over 10years apart, so it makes a
difference and he would be like,oh, like, what do you listen to
?
And I would listen to what helistens to.
And like, oh, like, what do youlisten to?

(16:30):
And I would listen to what helistens to.
And then I put a Lauren Hill CD, because at the time we put CDs
in the car, right, my gosh.
But anyway, no streamingservices.
None of that stuff even existed.
You had a big, big book.
Yeah, we had like a book withCDs.
Thank you for saying that,because it's true.
If you still have that bookwith CDs, my hat's off to you.
I have them.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I threw mine away.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I regret throwing mine away.
Que locura, that's so funny,but anyway, so make a long story
short.
He's like oh, I don't know whoLauryn Hill is.
I said, do you mind?
He was like no, play it, playit.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And I put it come, is it?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's the one, that thing, that thing that thing,
because we're going to getcopyrighted if we play the real
song.
We don't have that money.
If you want to sponsor us,anyway, we'll stop singing.
And he was like wow, I love it.
And he was just like I thinkthat's the first time that he

(17:28):
was like holy shit, like hip-hopis fucking great, you know.
And it opened.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
It opened up many other artists, you guys don't
remember, like the clubs that weused to go to, yes, like well,
because hip-hop back then wasunderground, yeah, like, yeah,
they wouldn't pay.
Uh, play it in like mainstream,no, they wouldn't.
You would listen to hip hop atnight.
As a matter of fact, let metell you what a memory I have of
hip hop, that the first time Iever heard of it Takes Two, it

(17:54):
Takes Two to Tingle right, wasbefore Hot 97.
I lived in New York.
I was like 12, 11.
That song came out in like 1988,almost 1990, right, and they
only played hip hop at midnight.
So I would be in my bed and Iwas a kid, I would be in my bed

(18:14):
with my radio playing, and thatwas the only time that I can
listen to rap back then.
I'm telling you, if somebody isdoing a documentary of hip hop,
that's what they're going tosay, because it was only, it
could only, and even Yo, mtvRaps, yeah, only came out at
midnight.
Don't you remember listening toit?
It was at night, watching it atnight, because you couldn't
play that stuff.
You couldn't play that kind ofmusic during the day.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because I don't
remember the first hip hop songthat I remember and I was
really little and that was you.
You got what I need, but yousay he's just a friend.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
May he rest in peace.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Oh, baby you you know my son he's 20.
I put him on to that song whenhe was younger and he used to
jam to that song in his car.
Yeah, and I'm like, oh my god,that's so to that song when he
was younger and he used to jamto that song in his car.
Yeah, and I'm like, oh my God,that's so funny that you know he
liked it, for back in the dayhe used to always play that song
.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I mean, I think for me everyone's, and there's so
many artists that I admire Nas.
I mean, come on, nas, but TribeCalled Quest for me.
Hold on, hold on.
I hope we don't get copyrightedbut I got to do it.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
I don't care, but this is for me and I'm a big
Busta Rhymes fan.
Okay, oh yeah, oh yeah, ooh,rush to rush and attack, and
attack.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Inside.
You know I did it, and attackInside.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
You know, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Man, I still look so different right now too.
Have you seen him?
Yeah, no, I haven't.
No, oh, wow, he like bulked upBig, thick, muscle guy, because
he was always like skinny dude,you know, oh, busta Rhymes.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yes, girl, he was skinny, he was a Google Glasses
commercial.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
He was a tall, thin guy, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, now he's like swole Ray-Ban, the Ray-Ban
commercial with the glasses,like he's always doing a concert
, is he?

Speaker 5 (20:13):
I didn't know that I loved Busta Rhymes because he
just had this way of like reallyusing his mouth and like his
vocals yeah, but With ChrisBrown you have to play it.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Okay, yeah.
So Busta Rhymes did a song withChris Brown in like the earlier
2000s.
Look at me now.
Who does this?
Oh, I know what you're going tosay hey, hey, hey, let's go.
I'm feeling like I'm runningand I'm feeling like I gotta get
away, get away get away.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Better know what I don't and I won't ever stop.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
I can do that.
I can do that.
Hold on.
That's what I'm talking aboutwith Busta Rhymes.
He knows how to do that.
He perfected that.
There was an interview that Iheard him and he perfected like
his way.
He was like this is going to bemy thing and he had, he
perfected, that's his thing.
Sure, oh yeah, seriously, he, Imean seriously, he's got his
thing.
And then come on like then yougot to go to like Jay-Z, then

(21:15):
you got Nas, then it's like,then that's like a whole other
era.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
What about?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Methamon, oh yes, methamon and Wu-Tang and all
that, but Methamon.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
That's sexy right there.
Yeah, he still looks.
Good, he still looks good.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
He still looks good.
He still looks good.
He was hot then and he's hotnow.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yes, but you know what Method man has been with
the same lady.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
He's a family man.
He's a family, thank you.
Who would have thought?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
that Cash rules Everything around him.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Karim get the money.
Dollar dollar bill.
Oh my gosh.
That just brought back memories.
How can I be down.
Oh, oh my gosh.
That just brought back memories.
How can I be down?
Oh, weekends, do y'all rememberthat?
Oh my gosh, I remember, becauseI had pictures with method man.
Okay Met, oh my gosh, that was.
There was some serious weekends, bro, everybody Seriously.

(22:07):
Some serious weekends here.
Let me tell you, our generationin hip hop started that whole
memorial weekend here in SouthFlorida.
It was during that time.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
South Florida was known for those festivals and
that's where you showed up, andthen all those cute boys from
HML showed up.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Thank God for South Beach Fifth Street.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Fifth Street.
I don't know if they still dothis anymore.
Thank God for South.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Beach, fifth Street, fifth Street, fifth Street days,
that's where they used to havethe.
I don't know if they still dothis anymore, but back in the
days you would just drive yourcar down Fifth Street yes, what
do they call that?
Cruising?
Yeah, and you would just playthe music in your car.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Deco.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Drive, you would just flirt with, like the people you
just hung out.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
The younger people.
They are missing out on that.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Right yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, I was clubbing back then.
I just recall about a memorythat being on South Beach I'm
not sure if it was on how Can IBe Down Weekend, but it was with
Monica and we were crossing thestreet.
We were about to cross, oh, oh,and these guys on these
scooters were coming through, sowe like stopped before we
crossed and I just saw an armwith the tattoo Mike around his

(23:19):
arm and me and her kind of likelooked at the arm.
We looked up at his face and welooked at each other.
We're like, oh shit, that wasLL.
I was just going to say that'sLL Cool J.
I remember you telling me that,literally, if I reach out my
arm, I can touch him.
That's how close he was.
I did touch him.
He was about to turn the street.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Only his arm.
I took a picture with him.
I met him at a club.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, we made love in this club, oh no, in
this club.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Was it with you that we saw Biggie Smalls at the
Underground?
That was me.
Was it with me?
No, yeah, we saw.
Biggie Smalls at theUnderground.
That was probably one of theonly concerts like that.
I don't even remember afterthat.
There's a lot.
I don't remember.
There's a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's all we're going to say.
I don't remember after that.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
But apparently I do remember a lot.
That's all we're going to say.
I don't remember after that,but apparently I do remember a
lot.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, those are the things that we did.
We saw the Fugees, we saw Nas,we saw Tribe Called Quest.
Tribe Called Quest, we sawBustin' Rhymes, the Fugees, the
Fugees, of course.
Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
And they were small venues.
Yes, that's what I'm saying,but that's how underground it
was.
Remember the yard?
Were you with me for Mad Lion?
No, where.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Where was that?
That was man.
I can't remember the name ofthe club.
You remember the yard?

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Was it the yard?
Was it called?
No, the junkyard.
The junkyard.
Thank you, it was the junkyardthat was also on South Beach.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Our hotspot was South Beach and all of a sudden it'd
be like we switched it up.
Ting-a-ling-a-ling School bell.
Ring the pom-pom, knife andfork with five foot, don't blink
Okay.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Do you know what I remember about that time?
Jasmine wanted to perfect thebutterfly.
Yay, I can still do it bitch.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
School bell ring, knife and fork with five foot
don't blink.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
You still got it.
Let me see Jasmine.
You still got it.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Okay, Okay, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh shit, if my husband could see me now, he'd
love me again, love me all overagain.
I love you baby, I love heragain.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I love you, baby.
I love hip hop.
I love hip hop.
But back then house music wasmy shit.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yes, what House?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
music, house music, all night long the Jungle
Brothers.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
That's another podcast.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
That is another podcast, because I was into it
too Jungle Brothers, it was thesame era.
Yeah, it was the same era.
You're absolutely right, girl,I house you girl, I house you
you and my husband.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
You guys don't know, you youngins it was the time of
our lives, man.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
I have to say that we totally I cannot say we had a
great youth.
I cannot say I mean we had agreat youth.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I mean Davies.
I know you were like 12 and 13,but I would have let you hang
out with me.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I would have put you in the trunk of the car.
Believe me, I was hanging outat 13 with 16-year-olds, really.
Yeah, davies got stories too.
I want to hear a story.
I'm not telling any of mystories because, like I mean, I
don't know.
There's not.
I don't know.
I mean the same thing going toclubs.
I lived in fort lauderdale butI would head to miami club, not
at 13, that was 93.

(26:39):
I mean, I still have the restof the 90s, 96.
I was 96, yeah, 98, 99.
You know I was 18 19 everywhere.
Yeah, I was definitely hangingout with older people.
Yeah, I shouldn I shouldn'thave been, but it was fun.
Nothing bad happened.
You know, I always look backand go man, god was really

(27:00):
watching me, because the placesI was at there I mean I could
have really gotten in trouble.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, I say that a lot, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, it's not like I was doing
bad things.
It's just one of those thingswhere it could have been just
the wrong time, wrong place.
I agree, I was always, likejust always watched over.
I guess that's why I was sograteful that we were always all
together, right?
That's one thing I was always,and I feel like it was like that
back then.
Now that I look at it it was.
I was always in big groups too,Like it was always big, yeah,

(27:29):
like if it was with the guys, itwas like a big group, you know,
a bunch of girls, a bunch ofguys together and again, it was
just to, like, hang out.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, it was just to hang out.
We weren't looking for trouble.
That's what I really lovedabout it.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
We were just looking for a spot to hang out, listen
to music.
We looked like we were in agang, but we weren't, but we
weren't.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Nickname besides no loot, it was the cock blocker.
Well, I heard about you at theclub, girl.
Yes, because my mother wasalways like no, tienes que tener
cuidado, yasmin, con tu familia, las van a violar and I'd be
like we're going to get raped.
And I was like, no, you can'tgo out with my friend.
No, where are you going In acorner?
You're going in a corner withmy friend to do what about

(28:08):
science?
I don't fucking think so, thecop.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Or no.
Hold on.
Jasmine would be the first oneto be like I want to go home and
I would be like bitch everybodyrun.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Right, but that would be usually.
It would be because we wouldmeet people and she would be
like this is not happening, andthen the guys would be like what
the fuck is wrong with yourfriend.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
It's time to go home and they'd be like, oh, that's
just what the fuck is wrong withyour friend and I'd be like, oh
, that's just Jasmine, like shelooks out for us and she's like
yo, like your friend's a lot andI'd be like cock blocker.
I just remember.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
I can.
So see this, I so I'd be likeshe's coming.
Oh my god, and here's the shit.
I was the driver, so that's whyI would fucking be like run
right, right, because youweren't ready, I don't gotta go
home yet and then, when she gother, license and she started

(29:07):
driving.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Who wanted to?

Speaker 5 (29:08):
drive with Jasmine Nobody.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Pero nadie nadie, no.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
but you know, what I loved is that at that time
Jasmine is in Miami now, but atthat time I was the only one who
lived in Miami drove everywhereand broward from like Miramar
to Pember Pines, to freakingPlantation, to Fort Lauderdale,
to then go to South Beach, comeback and drop everybody off.
That's how much I wanted to bewith my friends and we all

(29:40):
wanted to be together.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
That's a lot and you're welcome that.
Nothing ever happened to you.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I got stopped by a lot of cops on 95, but always
like, oh, I'm so 40.
Yeah, I just came from Miramar.
I'm just like I ain't policeofficer.
What did I do?
What did I do?
What did I do?
Oh my gosh, it was the best,best times, the best times, man,
absolutely.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, that was great.
So what stands out to you themost when you think of growing
up in the 90s, jessica?
What stands out?
One thing like the most.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
You know what?
That I, as much as like I wasgoing through some really hard
times as a teenager, not fullyunderstanding what was going on
at home because my parents werestruggling financially big time
and they were just trying tohold it down.
And you know, also just being ateenager and not I wasn't

(30:37):
getting along.
I remember I had a lot ofcommunication issues with my dad
.
He was just trying really hard.
You know, now as an adult, Iobviously understand a lot, a
lot and I love my parents somuch for just like really doing
the very best that they can.
So during that time I felt likeI wasn't alone.
I always had friends around meand I had an outlet.

(31:00):
I had something that I couldjust just people around me and
just going through this.
Whatever we were all goingthrough Sometimes I don't even
like we weren't really talkingabout it too much, you know we
were just.
I know that somehow we were allin our own little troubles and
we were just going to trying tomake it through.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I agree with you because, not that I knew that
you were going through that, butwe were all kind of going
through our own thing and whatsaved?
I get emotional but I think forme I can only speak for myself
but, like, what saved me duringsome very difficult moments of
my teenage years was my corefriendships with girls and, I
don't know, women friendshipsare on a different level.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yeah, they're very special and actually you guys
taught me how to be a goodfriend.
I have this conversation a lotwith.
It sounds silly, but with mythree-year-old sons I want them
to know what is a good friend.
Three-year-old sons, like Iwant them to know what is a good
friend.
You know a good friend is loyal, a good friend you share with
and you listen to them and youspend time with them.

(32:01):
I think that's important, afriendship, I mean, and that's a
whole other topic.
But I feel like I learnedthrough all of you guys like how
to be a good friend and what ittakes to be a good friend,
because to have to have thistype of friendship that we've
had, you know, and we've gonethrough 30 years, we've gone
through so many chapters andseasons in our lives that it's

(32:21):
even more meaningful now, at theage that I am, that I can look
back and be like wow, you know,like I have friends.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Friendships require time, love, love, grace, grace,
understanding, and I appreciatethat.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
yeah my daughter envies my friendship with you
guys same.
Yeah, she's like you guys.
They put the stake up highbecause you guys have been
friends since high school andyou know she looks she's like.
You know it's hard nowadays tokeep that friendship going for
so long.
It's it's hard.
And so she looks at us and shewas like I love it.

(32:57):
I love that you guys have beenfriends for so long yeah, that's
really sweet so what about you,deb?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
what stands out the most when you think of growing
up in the 90s?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
um, I don't know, I I guess just, I know we've said
it multiple times, but like nothaving social media really
sticks out to me, like I feltlike I had my privacy.
I felt like I really did, likewhatever happened it was because
of whoever I wanted to tell orwhoever was there at the moment.
I mean, people always talk,things got out, but it was just

(33:27):
different.
It was just different.
You know, I feel like I justremember that time, just like
not having to worry about allthis social media stuff, you
know, and having realfriendships because of that, we
had more community.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, yes, yes that's so great that you said that, of
course, this is probably why wehave such great friendships,
right right that still last thislong.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Deb, I'm really happy that you said that, because
everyone makes mistakes.
Oh yeah, everyone says and doesthings that they regret.
But today, when you make amistake, you are canceled or
treated like you're a teenageryou make, you're still growing
up, you're still trying tofigure out what, what to do,
right, you say I have said somany stupid shit in my life, but

(34:13):
nothing has been recorded Onlywhat I say now that I admit to
that.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
And kids have that choice nowadays.
It's just that they choose tobe on social media, they choose
to put everything out there,they choose to share every
moment, they choose to be outand record everything and then
you don't know who's going topost it, because there is no
privacy.
That's what they mean by thatthey also.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Social media is actually pretty much dictating
what they do, what they wear,how they act, how they behave,
because they have this feelinglike they have to follow.
You know that they want to belike that because that's what's
popular, right, so it's prettymuch dictating how they should
do things or how they shouldlive their life.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I just feel like if you're out and you do
something, anybody can berecording you, and then it can
just go online.
But that's what I mean.
Like there's no privacy, you'reout doing something stupid.
Back then it's like it was onlyall the people that were there
that knew no one's recording youand posting it on the internet.
Right, you know what I mean.
Like that's so you like whatyou're saying, like keeping up
with, like all the latest stuff,and like you trying to fit in.

(35:13):
Well, I felt like our way ofdoing that, though, was through
the music and the videos andseeing the artists, and because
there's always style, there'salways fashion, you know, but I
think it's just it's morepressure, because that's the
word of the social media, andit's like it's hard to try to be
yourself sometimes, becauseyou're so worried about what
everybody's thinking what aboutyou?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Maritza, for me it was kind of the same thing what
Jessica was saying.
I was a single parent, it wasjust my mom.
So we struggled a lot and, as Imentioned before, we had a
music store at the 183rd FleaMarket Musically, if you know
about it, what's up?
But you know I laugh about itand it's cool and all that.

(35:55):
We had fun there.
But I did see a lot thereShootouts, I've seen people get
shot.
We struggled a lot with peopletrying to rob us.
I mean multiple things.
So I seen a lot.
So having you guys around wasdefinitely an outlet for me just
to forget about all the stuff Iwas going through at the time.
That was, you know, just stuffthat I just wanted to forget

(36:17):
about.
Right, yeah, and being with youguys just made everything
better.
Yeah, just felt like it was afreedom yeah, we gave each other
.
That's definitely the word I'mlooking for, like I just felt
free and not alone.
Yeah, definitely, and it was atime, too, that I connected with
my brother also, so that wasgood, yeah, and I think so, like

(36:41):
we talked to each other, wespent physical time together,
yeah that I don't see thathappening in today's time, and
that's not as much.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
That was beautiful and, like you said, freedom.
That's kind of like with theprivacy that I was saying like
you were just more free to beout and not worrying about who's
going to see you, what's goingto be done, who's going to take
a picture, who's going to postNot like we're celebrities, but
you know what I mean.
It's like everybody's got thephone out recording somebody.
Now yeah, yeah, and everybodycan just post whatever they want
.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
And they didn't answer their home phone.
Oh yeah, I was just at the samehouse.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Listen, Do you remember Like I remember my mom
would be hanging out with ladiesand my mom would be beeping.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Beeping me, yes, and she'd had the code, the mom code
, and I was like I remember Canyou imagine how stressful for a
parent, though.
I remember picking you up, mymom and she's like, oh shit, I
used to get like one million andone quid.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I had that I'm like, oh my God, jessica the Latin mom
, the full-blown Latin mom, withno filter or anything.
She wanted to know everything.
She was not letting me get awaywith anything.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
What about you, jasmine?
What stands out the most whenyou think of growing up in the
Navy?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Oh gosh, for me it's very simple, the fashion, the
amount of time that we spent onour look, for me, it was the
fashion, the sisterhood with yougirls, which we've already
discussed at length, and themusic.
Honestly, it's like the music,the fashion, like I remember how
many out, like what are yougoing to wear?

Speaker 5 (38:25):
What are?
You gonna wear like your hairon the side the whole period?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
yes, oh, you're gonna put the little like the hair in
a bun.
You're doing the chonga lip.
Yes, the red lips.
Did you guys get the red umbrown lip line?
That I did, but we used it as alip liner.
It was a maybelline two-pack.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I mean, look, the sisterhood is on a different
level the fashion, the music,the no social media, davies,
just like you mentioned, thatwas the freedom, yes, the
freedom of that.
It was a special time.
Yeah, the clubs, the going outto like the underground clubs,
all of that stuff.
And again, it was thesisterhood.

(39:01):
It was that if I didn't answerthe phone and I disappeared for
24 hours, three girls knocked onmy door, of course, and were
like are you okay?

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Oh, you used to knock on my window because I used to
nap too long.
I like to sleep.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Hello, don't you guys remember going to Maris' house
and picking her up?
Listen, can I say?
Can I please say this story?
Hello, Can I say?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
that yes, we can.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yes, we can.
Yes, we can, monica, you'vebeen voted out.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Here we go.
So we have a friend named Maris.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
It doesn't matter, monica, her parents don't even
know what a podcast is, but sheknows we're mentioning her in
the podcast, of course.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
But listen, jessica was the only one who had a car
was a Nissan Maxima.
Okay, I was responsible for onejob.
I had one fucking job to getthe fuck out of the car.
Knock on Maris's window.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Maris would go start the car yeah, I had to turn off
my headlights and the music andwe had to roll up in silence.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Maris would jump out of the car and I'd be like run
bitch and she'd run for us, runfor us.
She'd jump of the car and I'dbe like run bitch and she'd run,
Run for us, Run for us.
She'd jump in the car and like25 minutes later we were in
South Beach.
Wow.
And then when?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
we dropped her off.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
it was like and her parents, and then she had to be
back and she would go in bedlike a fucking angel.
She looked like a freakingangel and her parents were like
no, Maris, Lena, vas a desayunar.
Ay, mami, un poquito más.
She just walked in.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I was too scared of my dad to do that.
I snuck out of my friend'shouse.
But I never snuck out of myhouse.
I was scared of my dad.
Yeah, for sure he was verystrict, but I understand.
Looking back, I'm like Itotally understand when my dad
would like flip out on me.
You know like leaving, havingguys pick me up with my
girlfriends, like you know, justpeople rolling up with like

(40:46):
three cars.
We're all going out, get in.
Like you know, my mom grew upvery like like she wasn't
allowed to do anything so shewanted me to have my freedom.
But my dad was like no, so butI look back now, having kids,
and I'm like, yeah, I shouldn'thave been going out half the
time when I was going out, so Iwas too scared.
It was a good balance.
It was a good balance.
It was a good balance, for sure.

(41:08):
And it's funny because my momalways said, which was the like
be careful, don't get pregnant.
That was always the line.
Yeah, that was the lineeverybody yeah so I hear you
ladies say it and it makes methink like, yep, yep, all our
moms said the same thing, yeahbut my mother took it to the
next level.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
My mother thank you.
Yeah, you, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
I literally thought that that's why they didn't let
you out.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Sorry, yeah, monica, what about you?
Well, of course, friendship.
I I love my friendship with youladies, but the music is in my
soul.
But you remember, back then itwas like you had a relationship
with these artists.
Yeah, so the anticipation ofthe album dropping?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, waiting in line to buy the record for the CD,
or when your friend got it andyou're like you got to hear this
.
Oh my God, yes.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Waiting for the video to drop.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Getting home at four o'clock to watch the video Yep
After school, that was just likeit was, you know it was the
vibe, but it's like what youwere saying, monica, it's
because it felt like a community, yeah, and I just, I don't know
, to me it's just that was atime that it doesn't exist
anymore.
Like to me, I don't feel musiclike it was during that time.
I really don't.

(42:18):
I mean internet, social media,whatever, whatever, but it's not
the same for me.
It's not the same.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I agree with you and that's why it hurts me with
what's going on today and Idon't want to bring it down, but
it's like no, I want to talkabout it.
I do you know there's a lot thatwe don't know.
So I'm trying to be politicallycorrect.
There's so much we don't know,but obviously, Puffy, you hear
and you start thinking aboutwhat he's being accused of and

(42:45):
you start thinking about Jay-Z,and you start thinking about
yeah, and you start thinkingabout Mary J Blige and all these
accusations and it's like gosh,fuck man.
Total 112.
Total 112.
Little Bob like Justin.
Bieber, even though that's notfrom our time it goes deep,
Little Bob like.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Justin Bieber, even though that's not from our time.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
It goes deep, right right, it's a rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, we don't know, and I don't want to get too deep
into that rabbit hole becausethere's so much that we don't
know.
But it's tainted it for me andit's yes, it was one of the best
times of my life that now I'mlike.
I'm like, can I even I can'tlisten to R Kelly no more.
Now I can't listen to Puffy.
What's next Biggie?

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Well, and I had just really touching really quick
what Puffy did aside, becausethis is, this is what's
happening now he changed thewhole scene of hip hop with his
music, with his style, becauseback then it was like baggy
jeans, it was rugged, it was thestreets, it was the shoe that
was like pop out.
You know all that.
But he came in like and broughta little elegance to it Right

(43:42):
in like and brought a littleelegance to it right now music,
jessica, was like let's getsuited up, like we're looking at
this harlem style, like it'sall you know, jess.
He literally created j-lo.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, he literally created j-lo, he gave her her
name, yeah, and it's like whatabout jay?
Blige too.
I'm not sure about that, but Iwould.
I know they had some connection, but I mean like the music
itself when we're talking abouthip-hop.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Yeah, like that, and I understand the whole JLo thing
, but, like, to me, he didchange the image of hip hop.
Yeah, like, from theunderground he brought it to
mainstream Right, he was the onewho helped it to come to
mainstream and he brought that,that, that spice, that that
different Flashy, yeah, thewhole flashy, like you know,

(44:23):
suited up and like, right, youknow, he brought a different
look to it, you know, andespecially with Biggie Smalls in
the picture and then R&B, hereally helped that whole R&B
genre, exactly, you know, torise and he brought it to where
it was and, um, but I do, I myheart feels like contra, like
it's conflicted, because to mehip hop is, is a love, it's a
love, it's a love story, um,from my childhood, yeah, and I

(44:46):
feel like it hurt, conflicted,and it hurts me because I feel
betrayed me too.
I feel betrayed by, specifically, this artist and it saddens me
for the hip hop industry becauseit's like you do feel.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I feel like that, I feel like that, yeah, you know,
I mean I'm not trying to make ajoke.
What I'm gonna say may soundfunny, but I'm really not trying
to be funny.
Even my mom, who's 84 years old.
We were talking on the phoneand she was like Jasmine, did
you hear about Moth Daddy or PDiddy?
I know it sounds funny becauseyou know, but even even people
who are not in that, like my mom, doesn't know anything about

(45:22):
that culture or that music.
And even she knows because it'sjust everywhere.
And I just was like she goespobrecito si le hizo algo, if he
did something to Justin Bieber.
Like you think about thosethings.
Of course, we don't knowanything right now it's still
developing, but it's just likeman like this.
This is a guy that I personallyloved his music.

(45:43):
I thought he was so cool.
Like you said, he brought itmainstream.
Like you know, it's all aboutthe benjamin's baby and little
kim, you know, and all that.
And now it's like, if youlisten to it, well, have you
shame?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
have you listened to any of his songs?
Have you wanted to?
No, I haven't.
I haven't wanted to.
No, how about you guys't?
I haven't wanted to no.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
How about you guys?
No, I'm a little disappointed,yeah, but what about the other
artists?
Because he has his hands in somany things?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Oh, that's the thing.
It's not just his music, it'slike everybody.
Like I said, Total 112.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
You may hear things.
He featured a lot of music.
I was a big Total fan.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I still love the music, but I hear it and I can't
help to think he was in that.
You know what I'm saying.
He was part of that.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
But if you really think about it, even back then
we may not have, it was rumorsand we may not have thought
about it, but even then theywere saying oh, Puffy has
something to do with Tupac beingmurdered, and they had always
planted that.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Well, I heard his family is reopening the
investigation since this allcame out.
I heard that too, and did youhear R Kelly's daughter came out
saying some stuff too?
If he has?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
anything to do About R Kelly?
If he has anything to do, Puffy, with the death of Tupac, I
don't even know.
I don't know what to believeanymore.
Everything is a lie.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Right yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Everything is a lie.
That's why it's a rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
The sad part is that so much of this goes on that
just doesn't come to light.
And his shit is coming to light.
He's.
I don't mean, I have no facts,but you know how it is in.
You know that celebrity world.
You hear about it all the time.
It's been for decades.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Well, davey do you remember?
In our last podcast, you talkedabout P, did he Le?
Hiciste el mal de ojo.
Que bueno, shortly after he gotarrested.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Listen, I don't know what he's guilty of.
I feel he's definitely guiltyof something, a lot of things.
What he's guilty of, everythingthat they're listing, I don't
know, but I just It'll come out.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
It.
I don't know, but I just It'llcome out.
It's right, it'll come out.
All I'm going to say is the 90swere the best, one of the best
decades of my life.
It has, I hold it withnostalgia, happiness, great
memories.
It's been a little tainted withcertain artists, but at the end
of the day I still thinkpositive things about it,
because of the sisterhood,because of the fashion and the
music and everything in between.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Yeah, and he wasn't the only music, I mean, he
wasn't the only music, heactually came started.
I mean getting big towards theend of the 90s, like 95, I think
I was saying like 96, I'm notsure 90-something like that.
I mean before that, we stillhave Gangstar, we still have the
Blues, we still have Gangstar,we still have the Roots, we
still have Farside De La Soul.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
I mean I can keep going.
I love the Lost Boys.
Warren G yes, I thought he wasso cute.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
I did.
I thought Warren G was cute.
I had that on my list.
I had that on my list.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
I mean the list goes on, so he was towards the end.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
So he didn't ruin that song.
A lot of NWA, dr Dre, nwa.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Dr Dre, the one that went whoa, whoa yeah, arrested
Development.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
That's Arrested Development.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Whoa, yeah, whoa yeah , whoa, yeah, whoa, yeah, whoa,
yeah, whoa yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Ah, and everyday people.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I do love the fashion , though, like just even like
the whole 90s, because you knowI was younger in the beginning
and as we got older it changedand even like to me, like I
remember, even the supermodelslike supermodels were a big deal
back then.
You know you had like your topmodels and that was it.
And like the fashion I loved, Iloved all that.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I'm sorry, but nobody has been able to touch cindy
crawford.
No, naomi camp.
Yes, claudia shipper.
I mean, the list goes on, thelist goes on.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
no, you got, you gotta get on, and on, and on,
and on, on and on and on and on.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
They were the most gorgeous supermodels.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
They had that special on TV.
I forgot if it was like onShowmax or Netflix, I don't know
what it was, but it was about90s top models and like behind
the scene, what they wentthrough, things like that.
They got them all togetheragain.
Oh yeah, I saw the preview.
I think it was Hulu, maybe itwas hulu, yeah, I don't remember
, but it was good yeah so stufflike that, when you say the
fashion, just all of thatgetting into, like the baggy

(50:07):
stuff and everything the fashionhas come around because, yeah,
we're in the baggy era again.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Yes, right now, with the wide leg jeans and all that.
My daughter's all into that,yeah.
So sometimes, um, I think, shecame out with a pair of jeans
and I was like, wow, those arereally baggy.
And then she, she, when thattime, when I was going through
my photo album, she was like you, telling me that I'm wearing my
jeans too baggy.
But look at you in thesepictures, mom, I know.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, it was a different type of bag.
Yeah, I'm like um yeah ourjeans weren't up to our waist,
you know, they were just likeregular mid or they would hang a
little though right, yes, yesand even like when you had the
tighter jeans, as it got youknow later into the 90s and into
the early 2000s, yeah, you hadlike the little hip huggers, a

(50:54):
little short tops, right.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I remember like the daisy dukes, like I love the day
, yeah, I wanted to just wearlike like barely there shorts
with like little like cutesneakers and crop top, but
Maritza was like what are youwearing?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah, I wasn't into the Daisy Dukes.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I was in the beginning.
I'm going to wear achampionship t-shirt and baggy
jeans, yeah, and Timberlandboots, and I hid that body for
four freaking years.
I hid my body for four yearsand I regret it.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Well, back then, you know, growing up four brothers,
I was just wearing their shit.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I did the same.
My brother used to shop forsome nice ass clothes Ralph
Lauren, I mean, like all thepolos and all that and I used to
take all his clothes.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
But then I come here and I'm in high school for one
year here hanging out but notreally hanging out, hanging out,
with y'all watching y'all getready, and all girly, and this,
and that short, this short thatyou know I'm like okay, okay.
So I kind of changed my stylewearing skirts, wearing boots,
Monica, you were a little hottie, she was a little hottie.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yes, I have the pictures we're going to post
them on our we're going to postthem on Red Lips.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
She wasn't allowed out.
The little hottie wasn'tallowed out.
I wasn't your mother knew.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
That's why my brother used to get mad Let her hang
out with her friends, she'sgoing to come home pregnant.
I'm like, yeah, that's thathelps.
That's why she won't let me out.
I used to beg him.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Can you please let her come?

Speaker 5 (52:26):
with us.
I remember we all used to,because we would end up going
out to hang out with him.
He would come with us.
Yeah, he would be like allright bye.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
That's messed up.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Monica, but when I was back in New York.
So I have a younger brother too, yeah, but he's a boy, he's a
boy, so he can go outside.
I can go outside to a certaintime, but I had to stay in front
of the building.
Right, right, those were infront of the building, but those
were the days, monica Yellingout the window.

(52:57):
Okay, I got to go.
Bye.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
I got to go out the window.
Okay, I gotta go, I gotta go.
But I love that time.
I you know what.
Those are memories that I have,too, of my childhood growing up
in new york.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
But thinking back now , like back then, I was like, oh
, I hate my parents, I hate mylife.
I had a little boombox cassetteplayer and I would, you know,
graffiti my name on it and thenI wrote I wrote I'm a lockdown.
I was like writing things at iton my lockdown.
But looking back I'm like Iunderstand why they did it,

(53:27):
because almost everyone in myage bracket in that neighborhood
was doing crazy shit yeah,popping out babies left and
right.
Like I understand why they didit, right, right.
But back then it was, you knowterrifying.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
I don't know about you, but like I remember growing
up in New York and honestly andeven well, even here in, like
South Florida, my parents, likeneighbors, took care of kids,
like they looked out for eachother's kids.
I remember I loved riding mybike and I would go around the
corner.
I could only go down certainstreets, right, I could only go.
Right, don't go down.

(54:00):
I grew up for those of you whodon't know, I grew up in Yonkers
and the Y-O, y-o, y-o, yeah,and DMX I was going to say DMX,
mary J, mary J Blige and therewas a street you couldn't go
down.
And I grew up on Broadway andyou couldn't go down Lawrence
Street, don't go down LawrenceStreet.
And the neighbors would lookout and they would be like yo

(54:25):
veo tu hija por aquí, andeverybody would be looking out
for each other's kids, yeah,yeah, and I love that.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, the housing projects.
We had the five Karensdownstairs.
It was a neighborhood watch.
They would sit at my mom waspart of that.
She would sit out there andthey'd be watching.
And then, sure enough, oye, yovi a tu hijo haciendo esto y lo
otro mira, no hagas eso.
yo maricoma your mom, bro,listen, I don't know.
But even my brothers too, likewhen I okay.

(54:53):
So I came here for a year and Ihad to move back to New York,
but I was always, every chance Igot, coming over here for long
weekends hanging out with yougirls.
Right, I remember that Chillingback then, you know, because I
was allowed and I came to seeyou too, yeah, and I would go
back home and my brother wouldbe like what were you doing at
Club Somersault?
What were you dancing withSomersault?
And I'm like, what are youtalking about?

(55:15):
Who were you with and who wasthat guy?
They had friends there becauseyou know, it was those long
weekends and everyone had to goto South Beach for the long
weekend.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
So, yeah, they would be like yo.
I saw your sister Damn it, butit was.
I loved my childhood.
Yeah, I don't regret it.
I loved every bit of it.
All the trials, tribulations,everything.
Yeah, it was just.
It makes me.
It made me what I am todayAbsolutely.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
You know that's a beautiful thing.
They were looking out for you,yeah for sure.
You know.
But, jessie, when you said DMX,it made me remember something
many, many years ago, when theSuper Bowl was in Miami, we were
in South Beach.
It was me and my husband Well,he was my boyfriend at the time
and he didn't know shit abouthip hop, but I was introducing
him to hip hop.
I was introducing him to hiphop and he had he already knew
who DMX was and who Puffy was,because I was teaching him hip

(56:06):
hop class, hip hop class.
So so we're in South Beach Ihave to remember which Super
Bowl this was, but whatever.
And we're walking and myhusband goes Jasmine, it's the
Rough Riders.
And I look and it was like, andit was literally the Rough
Riders, and it was DMX and Puffyand all the Rough Riders, and

(56:28):
my husband's like it's the RoughRiders.
And I was like, oh my God, I'mso embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
That reminds me of what was the chick from the
Rough Riders Eve Eve.
Yeah, I liked.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Eve.
Who's that girl?
Did she?
What was the chick from theRough Riders, eve?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, I liked Eve who's that girl La, la, la, la,
la, la, la, la, la, la.
Is she just from a book?

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Did she?
Did she just come out with abook?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
No, she has a baby, she's a mama.
Didn't she marry like a prince?
No, guys, she did.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
She married a pretty wealthy guy Not, but he has a
title.
He does those cannonball whatdo you call those Cannonball
races around the world races?
I'm not sure what he does.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
But yes, monica mentioned she wrote a book and
she did, and the reason I knowthat's true is because there's
an expert in the book that shesays that she was drugged and
Janet Jackson was the one thatsaved her Came into the room and
was like get water, get Tylenol, get this.
It was like a mixture that gother.
Came into the room and was likeget water, get tylenol, get
this.
It was like a mixture that gother out of it.
And they were, they were gonnado something to her.

(57:26):
Oh my gosh.
Yes, so that's what I'm saying.
I don't mean to bring it downagain, but there's a lot of shit
in the hip pop culture that'scoming out now because the
bravery of all these women likecassidy and and all coming out
and saying what they did Againit taints it, but it's what
happened.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
It's called who's that Girl?
By Eve.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
She's so beautiful she is very naturally beautiful
and she was one of the pioneersto do remember.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
She did that song with Gwen.
Yes.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
I was just going to say gave her shit for that.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
She was like no, because this is women
empowerment.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
And she was a big fan of gwen and the group that she
was in exactly and she was likeno, like this girl's hot right
now.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, I'm hot right now.
We you know she's white, I'mblack who gives a shit like
let's collab.
Yeah, a lot of people gave hershit about it, but it ended up
being one of her great songs, soI'm really looking.
You know what?
We should read that book forthe book club.
Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
That would be great.
Let's do it For sure, pinkiesand bitches.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Who's that girl, eve?
And if you want to join, ourbook club.
Read it, and then we willdiscuss it on our next podcast.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
But, like you say, so much stuff goes on in the hip
hop industry but not only thehip hop industry, it's just the
industry, the celebrity industry, that's true.
So much goes on that we don'tknow, yeah, that we don't know.
And they go through a lot thatwe don't know about behind
closed doors, and that's whysometimes I think, for instance
like Eve, you know they justkind of like disappear and you
don't hear from them again, andthere's reasons for that.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
Well, you know what I have to say, because I often I
don't know if you guys wouldthink about this, but I would
often think back like it's gotto be hard for a female to be in
that industry.
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying, I agree, and I just I
don't know like I think about,like Queen Latifah, even Lil'
Kim and Nicki Minaj she talksabout it too, you know, because

(59:14):
they give her a lot of shit,saying that she has ghostwriters
, which I know she writes herown shit.
I'm a Nicki Minaj fan, actually, because I feel like she gets
so much shit that I'm like youknow what I mean.
She's paved the way for herselfand I like her and she stands
up for herself as well, and Ican't even imagine honestly

(59:35):
being in that industry.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I love the 90s.
It was one of the best phasesof my life and the best thing
that came out of the 90s was myfriendship with you.
Beautiful ladies, same here andDavies, I would have put you in
the trunk of the car.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
We would have brought you everywhere Like in a good
way.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah, like in a good way, like I would have just put
you in the trunk and when we gotto Fifth Club I would take you
out.
Fifth Street, oh my.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
God.
I think it's fascinating howthose memories shaped us and
those experience gave us a senseof identity and belonging, and
the friendships and memories Imean we, they're just not just
music no, the friendships are me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
I mean, I know my friends that I grew up with
aren't here, but yes, I want tosay my friendship with my
friends was amazing and, yeah, Istill talk to a lot of them.
I'm still close with them.
Give them a shout out.
I'm to say their names.
I don't know if they want me to, that's true.
Yeah, I'm not going to startnaming them, but now they're
going to know who you are.
Why didn't you say my name, bro?
So to my girls I love you, Iappreciate you and you know what

(01:00:31):
I think is essential for us asmoms.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Right, not all the details, keep some of those
things out, but so that they canand I know we do, I do, for
sure, my daughter is all over itso they can get a feel of how
we grew up and how you're saying, jessica, that you show your
kids friendship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, I've always been transparent with my
daughters Because I just feellike, look, this is who I am and
I've evolved.
I'm not the same person andthat's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Well, you shouldn't be the same person.
You're supposed to grow andchange and become wiser and
learn from your mistakes, andyou know you're supposed to.
I mean, I'm classy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Now, she's not classy , she's bougie Bougie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I've evolved.
I have carbonese sauvignon witha filet mignon.
I love it.
I love you girls.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Bueno, I love you girls too.
Really, this has been a greatway to just pass the time and
just think back on our childhoodand reflect on that.
So thank you so much forspending time here with each
other, and I love you girls.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
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