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Serial killers, unsolved crimes and stories that'll make you
question all your neighbors. You're welcome.
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All righty. Now that the legally distinct
theme music has fooled you into thinking that this is
professional, let's get into thekind of true crime content that
makes FBI agents side eye your search history.
Sorry about that. OK, so today we are going into a
bunch of different subreddits that obviously focus on true
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crime such as True Crime Discussion, Serial Killers, and
Unsolved Mysteries. Those are the three subreddits
we are going into. Lori Page, 12 year old girl
missing from Tallahassee, FL whovanished in June 2023 has been
found dead. Her father has been arrested in
connection with her murder. OK let's let's read it and there
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is an update. So fantastic.
Lori was a 12 year old African American girl from Tallahassee,
FL. At the time of her
disappearance, she was a studentin middle school and described
as a studious girl who was afraid of making bad grades.
She went missing on June 2nd, 2023.
Real quick. I am pretty sure that if she was
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known for not wanting to make bad grades, being afraid of it,
that means she was probably afraid to tell somebody to like
get away. Like they're just being like
super nice. And I have a feeling that might
have been what happened, especially since it was, it said
it was tied to her father. So it's like, oh, we got to keep
it. I got to keep it head in from
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the public. I don't want people to know my
dad's bad, you know blah blah blah blah because they don't
just murder like things lead up to it.
ANYWAYS, she went missing on June 2nd, 2023.
According to some sources, she had a history of running away
from home but would always return on her own after a short
time. She was never seen again after
June 2023 disappearance. Today as of April 11th, 2025 S
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about two weeks ago based on this recording.
So do the math on your own, OK? The Tallahassee Police
Department revealed that Lori has been found deceased.
They did not give any details onthe location of her remains or
what led to her discovery. Her father Andrew had was
arrested and charged with her murder.
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He was the one to initially report her missing and who had
her mother removed from the property shortly before Lori
disappeared, allegedly because of an argument he stated that
Lori left at the backpack. According to police.
There has been inconsistencies in the story about Lori's
disappearance, and his phone revealed questionable Internet
searches. I would love to know what those
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Internet searches are. It's probably like Reddit, how
can I hide my daughter's murder?Like come on, like how?
How questionable are we talking?They do have an edit and it's
just about like apologizing I forgot to include a link blah
blah blah and included the sources.
So let's go ahead and see what what it has to say.
With the this case. There might be a little bit more
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insight. Yep there is.
Top comment being the previous write up says that Lori was
afraid of low grades and test scores.
I wonder if this is a intrinsic fear.
I have never heard that word before in my life.
I need to look that word up. And yes, you probably saying
damn, you don't know any words 'cause you say this every
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episode, do you guys? How many fucking words are in
the English Dictionary? It's belonging to the essential
nature or constitution of something inherent or essential
to something. That's that's basically what I
commented about it earlier saying she was too afraid to
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have bad grades. So that means that she's a very
timid, not wanting the spotlight, so something bad was
happening at home. She didn't want to talk to other
people about it. That's what I was thinking
anyways. Or she knew there would be
repercussions at home if a report card wasn't stellar.
I'd also like to know what Laurie considered low grades.
As a teacher, my Spidey sense istingling when I have a kid who's
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overly afraid of not getting straight A's or perfect test
stores. Good for you.
Most teachers don't give a rat'sfucking ass.
And you know that's just the beauty of the workforce these
days. You get the wrong people in the
wrong areas. Lots of kids are disappointed
with a low grade, but fear sometimes mean there's someone
at home who's going to be angry.This may or not may not have a
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thing to do with her murder, butthis stood out to me.
Hope Laurie gets justice and that her friends and loved ones
are able to find a measure of peace No child should have to
experience whatever it was she went through.
Another comment. Poor baby.
I hope she is resting in peace and that she gets justice from
his arrest. Damn, let's go ahead and go to
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the next story. She, she got her.
I mean, she finally had her story come to light.
I mean, took two years happened in June 2023.
It just happened, uh, April of 2025.
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Damn. And there's like no details of
location, no details of anything.
It's a very obviously still updating case.
So I mean, the only one who knows is the father and Laurie
and whatever God you believe in Peaches Dough and her daughter
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is identified. So this story comes from the
unresolved mysteries. So it's like a John Jane Doe
situation back in 1997. So on June 28th, 1997, a hiker
on a track there Long Island's Hempstead Lake Park is
discovered a Rubbermaid container in the woods,
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unfortunately containing the dismembered remains of a young
woman dead only days. This is why you don't buy used
Tupperware from the thrift stores.
That's not always going to be the spaghetti stains of
remicrowaving leftovers, OK? The woman, nicknamed Peaches for
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a distinctive tattoo, was missing her arms, head and legs
below the knee, some of which were ultimately found 14 years
later at Jones Beach State Park when authorities embarked on a
search for victims of a possibleserial killer.
The serial killer, later identified as Rex Hewer Man, was
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arrested in 2023 following Adna Match to Hewer Man's wife, whose
hair was left at the crime scene.
Dude, did she help? Did the wife help?
Or is this just the simpleness of woman sheds a lot?
Like I know I make hair portraits on the side of my
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shower as well on the tiles. If all my hair falling out, no
matter what, no matter how many supplements you do or whatever,
hair will just always fall out. It's just the beauty of the
beast of having a lot of fuckinghair.
So I wonder if like that was an accident or if she was involved.
Hmm OK, we're going to put that in the back of her head.
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During the 2011 search, the remains of an unidentified
toddler were discovered near what was found of Peaches.
DNA testing ultimately determined that the little girl
was Peach's daughter. Are you bruh?
How are you going to Oh, OK. Anyways, that's why we read true
crime. I guess it's it's the
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fascination of how the fuck and why the fuck.
Today, Peaches and her daughter were finally identified.
We have Tanya Denise Jackson andTatiana Marie Dykes born in
Alabama. Tanya Jackson, only 26 years
old, was last known to be livingin Brooklyn, NY City at the time
of her disappearance. It's quite a travel.
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Tanya was an Army veteran and single mother to a 2 year old
daughter, Tatiana Marie. Neither one was ever reported
missing due to family estrangement from both her
family and that of her daughter's father.
Dude did. Did the did the family and the
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father hire this dude to take care of them?
What the hell? Let's go ahead and see what the
comments have to say. Obviously they put sources.
Top comment is incredible that she's finally been given a name,
but so sad to get the circumstances surrounding the
family relations prior to her death.
Hope there are some friends out there getting closure from this.
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I mean I don't think so. I don't think there's any
friends either. Who the fuck just doesn't care
that a friend just ghosts them? Like either A1, you don't check
in because you know, you fucked up or two, you just never had
that deep of a relationship. And if I mean if somebody comes
from a family without having a good relationship, they tend to
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not want to be close to other people.
But another comment, after 27 years being known as Peaches and
Jane doe #3 I'm glad they finally have their name back.
She was born in Alabama. She served in the US Army at
Fort Sam Houston, in San Antonio, Fort Gordon and I don't
know Augusta, I don't know at Fort Leonard Wood and Montana
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and they were born in she was born in Texas, little baby.
Neither were ever reported missing.
Police have spoken with the father and state he is
cooperating with the investigation.
He has not been named, like publicly.
Police did not reveal that they are currently investigating the
homicides as related to the LongIsland serial killers case.
I wonder why they're keeping this concealed from the public.
Maybe they believe that the casegets too closely associated with
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Rex and Rex's investigation. It'll prevent other potential
tips from coming in. Probably has to do with how
there could be many ways to movethis case forward in relations
to other cases being tied together.
So yeah, they're probably just being safe than sorry.
And how terrible to go missing and have absolutely no one
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report it. Fucking devastating actually.
But look, look at them now. They they have multiple people
in 2025 happy for them. So although that is a pretty sad
situation, it's better than yourstory never even being picked up
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by the media. Think about all those people
that have died that are undocumented, like or just
missing and that's it. I I find I find at least closure
and justice for the case actually be investigated and
having leads. That's more than most.
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A woman's body is found after a house fire.
Her autopsy reveals that she hadmultiple plastic surgeries done
in the past. Who was Anna?
This is in 2024. So hello, everyone.
As always, I'd like to thank youfor all your votes and comments.
Blah, blah, blah. Mr. Freeman, I need to.
OK. They're just introducing
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everything. I just need this story.
Here we go. On the 5th of February a house
fire broke out in the British Columbia, Canada but when it was
put out a victim was discovered,a woman who was only known as
Anna. She was a white woman about 40
to 60 years of age. That is a insane like age range.
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I get it, she was in a fire, butwhat do we what?
I thought we had the technology to be able to detect that.
OK? Like a carpet print of like the
ashes. OK.
Anyways, she was 5 foot one, 130lbs, Gray eyes and Gray long
straight hair. The most unusual part of Anna's
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case is the fact that she had quite a lot of plastic surgery
done. She had silicone implants on her
calves. You can do that, brother.
Just just walk. Just walk.
The calves can just grow breastsand buttocks.
OK. Other than that, she had a
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circum. What circumference?
Teal scar. I That has to be a misspelling.
OK. Anyways, that has to be a
misspelling. A scar around her lower abdomen
and back, which was likely caused by a plastic surgery
known as tummy tuck. So I guess it's like a scar that
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circles all the way around OK. Which in Anna's case seemingly
also involved her back. The surgery involves removal of
excess skin, in fact, to achievea more toned look.
Bro 20-30 minutes a day. Just walk.
Just walk. There's also speculation that
she had some work done on her face, but I can't say for
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certain. The post mortem photo of her
head is available in the sources.
So if anyone has more experiencewith facial plastic surgery, I'd
like to hear your insight. Dan, they're actually really
trying to figure out who this isthat they're including that
photo for the public. So we do have a conclusion.
I know that this write up is rather scant and lacking in
details, but I'm afraid that there just isn't many sources to
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this case. It's just an entry on the
database. It's a pretty new case.
Despite the lack of details, we do have this very curious and
interesting Anna had a lot of plastic surgery, more than the
average person who opts to have plastic surgery.
Not to mention what she did havewas quite invasive and
expensive. And discussions on this case,
people have speculated that Annamight have been someone like a
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model, bodybuilder, aspiring actress, or an exotic dancer.
That she might have been in a profession that required her to
look a certain way. What?
But she wasn't working at a timeof death.
Hold on, hold on. I wonder if she changed her look
so that nobody would recognize her.
Maybe she wanted to start a new life and cut herself off in the
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past and nobody knew her name even when she was living in a
house. Or it was a fake name.
No neighbors know, not a person,not the person that she was
renting from. Didn't know OK that I would like
to know more insight on because to like rent a property let
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alone be a home or an apartment you kind of have to like prove
your income. Unless she like just had cash
flowing and just threw all the money at them to shut them up.
And Anna might not even bend hergovernment name.
The description of the discoveryis also vague.
We only know that she was found in a house.
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We don't know if she was rentingor if the house was abandoned or
anything else. Wow OK Dang this this redditor
went into it. This is still Opie's original
post. Opie is saying that they feel
like it was most likely suicide in an accident.
Hold on hold on. OK and they provide like a
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hotline for people to suggest tips.
Let's see what like the commentsare saying because I'm a little
confused. Top comment.
Calf implants are pretty rare, especially for a woman.
Other than getting work done forprofessional reasons, she could
have just had severe body dysmorphia and mental illness
which fits with her isolation and no one reporting her
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missing. Yep, facelift, rhinoplasty, and
possible upper I. I'm not into plastic surgery so
I don't know these words. OK, I'm not a fan of that stuff.
The tummy tuck lift makes me think she may have once been way
heavier and lost a lot of weightand had loose skin, Possibly the
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implants everywhere else to build back definition.
Sounds about right. And I bet she had a facelift.
She has the telltale ear scar. That's what somebody said
because they looked at the photoof her head.
So if you want to look at the photo of her head, go over to
this story right here posted by Alfred the Jones and take a
look. Hell, let Reddit know what you
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think about it. Let me know what you think about
it. Because what a what an odd, odd
tale. Very concerning.
Woman leaves on a few day trip with her two dogs.
Her car is found abandoned on a dead end Lodging Rd. after two
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weeks without her or her dogs anywhere.
Where is Tammy? OK, what is this the same
person? It is the same person.
It's Alfred the Jones. Like the last story.
OK, all right. So Tammy was 54 when she went
missing from Oregon. She lived in Red Bluff, CA where
she worked as a realtor. It seems like her job ended by
the account of her family, but I'm not sure if that means that
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Tammy was fired or quit out of her own will.
Tammy was married for 20 years, but she and her husband were in
the process of a divorce. The divorce was finalized August
of 2023. And Tammy sure will go to her
son if she will remain missing. Investigate that son.
Investigate that son. I'm telling you right now,
that's probably the end of the story.
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Yeah, that's my that's my speculation.
OK. She had missed her son's wedding
and the birth of her grandchild,which happened after she went
missing. Yep, investigate that.
Investigate that son. Dude, I, I kind of actually feel
bad 'cause like, what if the son's like, like obviously this
is probably like extremely traumatizing, especially if you
just got married, just had a sonand your mom just was like yo,
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like yo bitch, where where you at Mama?
Like the hell. OK.
She had two dogs, a white, black, brown Jack Russell
terrier and another smaller white dog.
She was an avid supporter of herlocal animal rescue.
Her half sister said that the time of her disappearance her
sister was not mentally well andthat she got a little bit
scared. The sisters were strange for
five years and had a difficult and strained relationship.
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They only found out about Tammy's disappearance after
about two months after it happened.
Nevertheless, she described Tammy as an amazing person and
started that the sisters were close when they were growing up.
Man dude, This is why you can dowelfare checks OK?
Like a simple call. A simple call.
Nope, got to wait two months after, huh?
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All right, the disappearance. Tammy has last been seen by her
family on 14th of October. By her son specifically.
I'm telling you about that son. She told him that she was going
on a trip and that she would be back on Monday.
So in about 3 days she left withboth the dogs.
On the 15th, Tammy had purchaseda prepaid phone card and
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withdrew $1000 from a bank account to her name that nobody
knew she had. She then purchased Taco Bell in
California. There's a city called Weed CA.
That's where she bought Taco Bell.
Taco Bell in Weed CA and gas in Glendale, OR.
That's a really far distance. So you mean to tell me she just
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bought gas once? Well I guess she withdrew $1000.
That's probably why she did so she wouldn't have a trail.
Interesting. I still I still think the son
did it. OK, she purchased a prepaid
$300.00 Visa card in Oregon and made a purchase at a convenience
store in Glendale, OR. You need to pull up those tapes.
Pull up those tapes please. Is that her buying it?
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Is that actually her and is she by herself?
Lord have mercy that this is more than enough leads for
further investigation. OK Anyways.
On the 16th, Tammy had reserved a room in Oregon.
She did it using your husband's credit card, but it's believed
that she paid with cash. What is that?
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Why would it be believed that she paid with cash if she used
her husband's credit card? Like either she used it or she
didn't? On the 17th, Tammy had purchased
gas in Oregon at 6:45 AM. She then stopped at a Rite Aid
in Oregon. Between 10:30 to 11:00 she
bought a lighter there. She was caught on the security
camera in the business across the street along with her dogs.
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Thank you. Finally we get a security like
update. She had been reported missing on
the 26th of October, but it's unknown who reported her.
What do you mean it's unknown? I I feel like they're just not
releasing that information because it's an active case.
OK Tammy's car, a Gray Toyota Camry, very reliable OK have
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been located at the end of a dead end road off of Hwy. 2030
miles east of Oregon of Sweet Home, OR and I've been found by
a hunter who was in the area. They found the car suspicious
and called their find at 10:52 AM on the 29th of October.
So the last time she was seen was at the gas station at 6:45
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AM on the 17th and then the car got reported on the 29th.
So we're we're working with about like 2 weeks like give or
take. Right when the cops arrived at
the scene, they discovered that the car belonged to Tammy.
According to her relatives, Tammy had no connections to that
area where the car had been found.
It's estimated that the car had been there since the 17th,
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giving the absence of tire marksin the mud and the overall
condition of the car. There is snowfall between the
17th and the 29th and the fact that the rotors on the car were
showing signs of rusting like the car had been out in wet
weather. What so many cars park like
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where snowstorms are like, snowstorms happen a lot.
That's how quick it is for that shit to rust.
No wonder you can't find like a Mazda Miata, like one of the
original N As without fucking rust.
If it only took, what, the 17th and 29th?
I don't. I don't really like that, that
detail. That's kind of silly.
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Inside the car, the investigators have found Tammy's
purse with their identification,her passport, Social Security
card, birth certificate, an overnight bag with toiletries,
her regular medication, a rustedand busted gun.
Whoa leashes for her dogs, an extra key fob in the trunk, and
two Home Depot moving boxes, onecontaining clothing and the
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other containing shoes. It's believed that Tammy had the
burner phone, prepaid card, cashand key fob for her car on her.
The area where Tammy's car was found had been searched by Teams
and Canine Dogs. When the thing was found, swabs
were taken out from the steeringwheel in the driver's side
doors. No prints could be recovered due
to the weather that the car was left in and the DNA has not been
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processed. By the 16th of October 2024, the
car had been released to Tammy'sson.
Two weeks after it was found. On the 10th of February 2023,
one of Tammy's dogs, Trooper, had been found alive running
along Hwy. 20 between mile post 55 and 61, close to the woods
where Tammy's car had been abandoned.
He was healthy despite spending a long time in the woods.
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Damn, that's that's a lot of months.
That's a lot of months, man. OK.
Tammy's husband has since remarried and sold Tammy's car a
few weeks after she went missing.
What justice for Tammy, man, Whojust goes ahead and goes?
Yet my wife went missing, which is a very complicated situation
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for the grieving process to justthrow it all away like that.
Like. And who allowed him to sell the
car? Isn't that like key evidence?
I have so many questions. The dog has since been rehomed
and lives in with an Oregon couple.
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The the sister said that Tammy'shusband and son didn't want to
pick him up when he was found. The sister is in contact with
the couple and still receives updates on her sister's dog.
I think that regardless of what exactly happened to Tammy, it's
likely that she was in a fragilemental state when she left home
on the 14th. She's been divorcing her
husband, she lost her job and her son was about to marry and
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start his own family. Quite a lot of big life changes
in a short span of time. She was most likely quite
vulnerable to many things. Her car being found in such a
remote out of the way spot is quite strange.
Tammy wasn't familiar with the area and there's no info on her
being a big nature lover, so thefact that it was found in a
lodging Rd. is suspicious. Damn.
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So Opie keeps going and keeps going.
OK we're just going to go to thecomments because this is all
about Opie's like opinions of it.
Like nothing wrong with that. It's just it was like 5
paragraphs and you know we got other stories to read.
OK top comments. I live near where the car was
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found and while I hadn't been toservice roads there
specifically, I spent my whole life going up them.
It would be so incredibly easy to get lost and die of exposure
or take a tumble down a hill. Obviously we don't know why she
went there, but it's a pretty common thing to do here.
My guess is regardless of why she stopped, she got lost and
never made it back. Another comment to be I guess
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they forgot the word fair. So to be fair, this seems like a
pretty likely suicide. Her family knew she was unwell.
She had been let go from her job.
It's possible she just walked asfar into the wilderness as
possible before killing herself or falling.
Coming to the elements, yeah, it's a dense forest out there.
Doesn't surprise me that she hasn't been found.
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OK, because of that comments, I have a conclusion.
It's not the fact that she was aforce lover, nature lover, like
how they were like. There's no signs that she even
did hiking or anything. It was most likely a suicide in
the sense of, hey, I'm going to take my two dogs.
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I love my two dogs. I don't trust my husband and I
don't trust my son and I have noone else.
So I'm going to take my dogs with me because they're animals
and they can survive out in the forest.
You see where I'm going with this?
You see where I'm going with this?
So she killed herself in the forest.
Obviously she hasn't been found and she did it with her dogs
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around and then the dogs were free to figure out how to
survive because, you know, forests have water and animals
which are food. That's probably most likely what
happened, unfortunately, very, very unfortunately.
And I highly, highly speculate that the the son and the father
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were pushing her to her last wits of mentality and she
probably wasn't even really involved with the wedding or
like really involved with the the wife and the new kid, like
during the pregnancy. Yeah, investigate all of them.
Get statements. Come on, get statements.
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All righty. What victim of any serial killer
sticks with you the most? So this one's off of the serial
killer subreddit. As a discussion, what victim of
a serial killer story sticks with you the most?
My list of victims that stick with me are sorry in advance if
I butcher these names. Kimberly Leach, the victim of
Ted Bundy. Shirley Ledford and Cindy
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Schaefer, victims of the Toolboxkillers.
J Simon, victim of Dean Quarrel.Just how young they were and how
they were mostly children stickswith me.
So this is mainly like a commentthread.
Let's go ahead and read the comments.
The kid who escaped from JeffreyDahmer only to be given back to
Dahmer by the cops. What?
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No way. I had no idea that that even
happens. Another comment, Heather W.
The fact that Fred and Rose wereso deprived that their own
children weren't even spared. OK that's pretty sad.
I don't know much about any of these so like please do let me
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know some like context about these.
So Tammy Homilika the Factor sister drugged and raped her and
essentially served her up to Bernardo, which is Sharon Tate's
demise was truly horrific. And then another comment.
Mary Vincent had both of her arms cut off and still managed
to survive. The guy was released and went on
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to kill again. That reminds me of the
Tupperware guy that I I honestlycan't look at Tupperware the
same again. I'm sorry to everyone else.
OK, I didn't mean to impose thatthought every time you look at
it now. Sorry.
How good of actors do you think serial killers have to be to
fill those around them such as family, friends, employers,
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etcetera? And why when serial killers get
caught, often their family will say that they had no idea the
person was a serial killer. This is surprising to me because
the family spends a lot of time with the serial killer.
They see their personality and you would, you know, you would
think you'd see cracks in their personality if they were there
and their comings and goings To some degree.
I think it's true with employerswho spend a good amount of time
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with the serial killer and coworkers friends to some
degree, although might not spendas much time with them.
So are they especially like goodactors?
Like. So that's basically what Opie is
asking. Like it's strange to think of
someone whose entire life is something of an act.
That's why it's a mental disorder.
That's why it's a mental disorder.
Take a look at the comments. Oh Jesus.
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As I hit the microphone. I would think it's more just a
compartment. Compartment.
Mentalizing. So like storing it in your head?
Everyone does that to some degree.
I'm not the same person at work as I am like I am with my wife
or friends. That's true.
People just don't open up to anyone and they only open up to
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the other voices in their head. When my family and friends show
you the person you are. Most all the time.
When I'm doing serial killer things and those people will see
the other side. OK, there are of course
expectations, but most serial killers aren't drooling maniacs
and are able to keep that part of themselves under wraps most
of the time. There's also the fact that I
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might think someone is weird or off in some way, but I probably
wouldn't assume that they're killing people.
That would be a huge leap to make for most people.
Also, always remember the serialkillers that this is my opinion.
By the way, this is not a comment.
This is this is me right here. Tired Gato.
The serial killers that you're investigating that everyone
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knows about are only the ones that are caught.
Think about the people that aren't caught.
Think about the different ways that they they do it right, like
the different ways. So that's another huge insight.
So don't just go basing how you would assume serial killers are
or like what their day-to-day lifestyle is or you know, like
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those YouTube videos or like a day in a life with a serial
killer. No, like all research when it
comes to true crime is about studying people who get caught,
not people who literally don't get caught, because that's a
completely different level. Just a heads up.
So put that into minds while I continue reading these comments.
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It's about the ones that didn't do it in a way that was
seclusive I guess. Because you know the goal of the
serial killer is to kill and keep doing it.
So if you get caught, you can't keep doing it, right?
OK, that's what I meant by that.Another comment.
Some of them just blend in so well in their community.
John Wayne Gacy was an example of that.
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That's a clown dude, right? I believe most people even
thought he was a good guy, a good neighbor or whatever.
Outside of his crimes, he probably seemed ordinary, even
decent and upstanding. And when he talked about his
crimes and interviews, there isn't much emotion there.
It's like it barely registers tohim how awful his crimes were.
That level of psychopathy could mean you don't really have to be
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an actor if you don't even feel what you've done is horrific,
you just mimic normal emotions. He had been doing that all of
his life. It doesn't feel like acting
anymore, I guess. All right.
And then one of the last comments on this one.
You're assuming all serial killers are dysfunctional
weirdos and a never ending battle with their bloodlust and
deviant desires. Sounds like something a serial
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killer would say. This this redditor That's that
seems like something a serial killer would say.
Most of them are roughly normal people that you wouldn't suspect
of being ruthless killers. Wow.
OK, And another question in the serial killer community.
Do serial killers who get away with the crimes often fear
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getting caught or move on fast? I guess that has to do with like
their own preference. You can't just group the man.
What the hell? OK, let's read their post.
For example, I wonder what the Zodiac was thinking as he got
away with it. You'll never know.
Probably scared. And but what about the 1980s,
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Nineteen 90s, or even today? If he's still alive?
Does he even think? I mean, we already know it, like
Ted Cruz, right? It's Ted Cruz.
Yeah. Does he even think much of it,
or is it most of it in the back of his head?
What about I-70 or Bible John? What the hell?
There's so many serial killer names.
OK did not know the lower of I-70.
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It was like I-70 like Interstate70.
Who knows Bible John. OK, but this isn't about the
Zodiac killer. It's just in general.
It probably depends on the killer, but it fascinates me.
And let's see what the comments are saying.
Your answer lies in the body of the post itself.
It depends on the killer. That's it. close the thread.
That's it. OK.
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If you're talking the case of Zodiac would say he did enjoy it
as he sent taunting letters to the police.
Exactly. If you had to pick a serial
killer that probably didn't enjoy getting chased, and that
would be Jeffrey Dahmer. So yeah, it depends on the
killer. Yep.
It's just like how you like generalize, like different
genres of music or shows or anything that people want
different. And in the end, they they want
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people to know of them. But it's how many people just
the victims or the family of thevictims?
Or do they want it like a mass like news article?
It completely depends. Another comment Zodiac was
arrogant and thought he was smarter than the cops.
I guess at that time he was because they never caught him.
I really think he would have died by now or at least be very
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very like old. Honestly, with all the murders
that was that he committed, I highly doubt he had regrets
about killing anyone. I'm sure as he got older, he
probably thought about what he did, remembered it fondly and
that's about it. His identity is just something
we'll probably never know. And another one, It's often a
cat and mouse game. Many of them enjoy the thrill of
being chased. Yeah.
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OK. And another question.
How many more questions do do I have pulled up?
So you have two more stories andthen one more question.
So here's the last question. What serial killer has affected
the way you live your life either today or back when the
serial killer was active for me was Ted Bundy.
It has put me off helping anyonethat is wearing a cast sling,
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crutches or walking aid. Selfish.
But yeah, shook me to my car even today.
Very valid. Very valid.
OK Richard Chase, the vampire ofSacramento broke into homes to
kill people and drink their blood.
Bro had a iron deficiency. OK When asked how he chose his
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victims he said he just tried a door and if it was locked he
knew he wasn't welcome so when it was open he'd just go in.
Damn mentality of a four year old.
It's cookie jar in front of me. Cookie's mine.
I used to be casual about locking the door up to the point
but now I always make sure my doors are locked.
Bro I don't think you needed a serial killer to make you want
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your doors locked. A little concerned for this
redditor. Another one BTK Just knowing how
long he watched people learn their habits and schedules.
I feel like I'm always more paranoid of unknown cars in my
area or just being more alert ingeneral.
Now, if somebody was watching you, they wouldn't have the car
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easily seen. They would probably like park
with other cars that would like like if you have an apartment
complex and you have an area where a lot of like DoorDash
drivers like go or a lot of likea visiting area, like that's
where they'll probably part. Not like in front of, you know,
grandma's apartment that never has visitors.
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Like, come on. Yeah, At that point, don't be
paranoid because even if it's infront of your face, you wouldn't
even know. So like, don't.
Yeah, just stop overthinking that.
That's insane. That's insane.
Talk about being so paranoid youcan't even think straight, man,
That's. That's insane.
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OK Paul Denyer Australia I neverget into my car without checking
the back seats that remind me ofthat one of that like slices
your the back of your ankles under the car.
It was like a female serial killer.
That shit fucked me up when I learned about that growing up.
But the one that really sticks with me now that I unfortunately
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did to myself was the now the spaghetti containers like
Tupperware. I don't think I'll ever be able
to shake that one. Another comment, I always check
my closets before I go to bed ofdue to BTK.
That's another BTK reference. I also ignore men I don't know
asking me questions on the street or whatever.
It's better to be impolite and safe than polite and a victim.
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Referencing back to that poor girl that was afraid to get bad
grades. I think she just didn't want to
be impolite or stir up the house, even though usually with
people that I don't know, kill their children or just abuse
their children in general. No matter what boundaries set,
you never will do it right even if you do it right because
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nothing's right in their fuckingeyes.
Let's go ahead and get into the second to last story.
This is in the true crime discussion titled Judy and Shen
Gifford, 14, disappeared in 1976.
Her body was found the same year, but it would take 43 years
before she was identified. Child abuse and murder in this
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one. So go ahead and go to the next
episode. No, no need to listen to
something that would harm you. That's that's ridiculous.
You don't need to relive it. OK, so they did include photos
of her for my audio stemmers of her throughout her life.
She seems fairly healthy, not underweight, not overweight, has
multiple different clothing items on, no repeats, no
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bruises. Healthy teeth family vacation
photo necklaces. So like there there's love and
people love her. Not saying you need necklaces
and multiple clothing items to be loved by the way, just a
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right of way determination that there was people in her life to
clothe her and to make sure she had necessities.
So let's go ahead and read the comments real quick because
there's nothing else. Oh no no no the comment OK I was
like where is the story of her? So Opie included it in a
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comments OK. Judy was born on January 31st,
193062 in South Korea. Her parents divorced that same
year with her father having custody of her.
Very uncommon in Korea. OK damn, what the fuck did the
mom do? And the two of them moved to
Hawaii in 1963. Her father was enlisted in the
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US Army and was deployed to Vietnam for training.
So Judy's aunt in New Jersey took care of her.
Her aunt and uncle legally adopted her, planning to keep
her until her father could find a wife and settle down.
In 1964, she became Judy Gifford.
OK, so a military kid. Judy's father remarried in 1969.
Nice not the remarried part I mean whatever he wants to do his
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own life, but 196969 nice and by1972 had two more children for
aunt. Do you just snip it like if
you're no like just snip it For unknown reasons, By 1976, Judy
was still under the case of her aunt and her uncle had died in
1974. Around this time, when she was
14, Judy began to misbehave, letting her grade slip and
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getting into trouble with the law.
Don't blame her at this point. Her aunt returned her to her
father and his new family in California.
The father had two kids and he has a new home.
And no wonder Judy was acting out.
She she lost her mom and then she lost her second mom, which
is her aunt basically aunt like literally died.
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And then he the what do you callthat the uncle?
Wait, her uncle died? Wait, Oh no, no, sorry.
What? Her aunt didn't die.
Wow. I I'm reading the story and I'm
confused. I guess I'm just so stunned by
how much people have failed her at such a short amount of time
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of life she's lived. OK, so her uncle died and then
Judy started misbehaving and then the aunt returned it to OK.
So yeah, she's still technicallylost her second mom because it
seems like the mom just kind of gave up on her too.
And I mean, hell, it's the the second family and like, dude,
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like I'm telling you, it's it's the father just did not know how
to grieve. So he was like, let me just
remake a different life. Let me play fairy land and like,
go ahead and like act like the family I first had never
happens. Wow.
Because that'll fix everything. OK, Average mindset of an
alcoholic. At that point, Judy's half
brother remembers a phone call between Judy and her aunt when
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Judy tearfully asking her aunt to take her back and her aunt
replying that she needed to learn to love her biological
father. It is unknown what happened
leading up to her disappearance.Her brother says that he was
told that she was flying, flyingback to be with her aunt and her
aunt believed that she had run away.
The fuck? On October 1st, 1976, Judy's
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then unidentified body was foundon the shore of the Lake Merced
in San Francisco. She had been strangled but was
fully clothed. Damn.
And it's not damn that that wasn't strangled by water.
They're strangled by force like somebody and just disposed of.
OK, somebody. In 2019 of sometime in 2019,
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Judy was formally identified through DNA comparison with her
half brother. Judy's brother says that her
aunt had lived with the regret of having Judy stay with her
father ever since she disappeared.
She wishes that she did not rebuff Judy's Christ and wanting
to fly back to New Jersey and live with her, but instead would
have said yes, come on back, I'll buy the airplane ticket.
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Right now. It is currently unknown who
murdered her and there's a side note I am not applying.
It was her father. I don't think he's considered a
suspect. Comments, comments comments,
comments. OK, read it.
Top comment other than obviouslythe story.
I wonder who strangled her, whatthe motive was maybe just a
crime of opportunity. Unfortunately, yeah, she
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probably didn't have a lot of confidence.
And he they you know, the killers usually are smart.
They they can like assess if somebody like doesn't have a lot
going on in their life and that's an easy like easy in and
out man. Easy in and out.
Another comment, the brother being told Judy's gone back to
be with her aunt. Sounds to me like something you
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say to your child to easily explain why she isn't there
anymore. But in reality she was killed by
him the father. Just my gut feeling reading it.
I am so happy that this comment exists because that is that's
exactly what you need to a kid when you say that like the dog
died. No, I just went back to the
farm. No, it just wants to go back.
No, they the, the people actually wanted him back at the
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shelter. Oh, the people that we got him
from actually wanted him back. That's that's exactly what
happened. And that is did this redditor
nailed it on the head. Nailed it on the head.
And I can't believe it took 43 years to identify her.
Absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
On this day 30 years ago, Timothy, alongside his
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accomplice Terry, would orchestrate one of the deadliest
domestic terrorist attacks in all of history.
On April 19th, 1995. Timothy would orchestrate.
OK, just literally said the sametitle.
Said the same title. The attack killed 168 people, 19
of which were children and babies, who were in the same
daycare center of the building. They stated that apparently he
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didn't know about the daycare and wouldn't have done it if he
knew about it. Wow.
He has priorities I guess. This has been dismissed as him
trying to garner sympathy literally as he had start staked
out the building before and musthave known he commented the
attack out of he committed. Wow I'm getting tired.
That's why I said this is the last story he come.
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I still did it. I still did it.
I'm just ready to read the comments and go to bed.
He committed the attack out of revenge for the Waco siege,
which was a brutal standoff between the ATF and the cult of
the Branch Davidens and Waco, TX.
Said siege ended in 28 children dying.
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Buck. He was also heavily angered at
the Ruby Ridge incident, which was also between the ATF and a
family. Both of these ATF incidents were
very widely criticized as disproportionate and corrupt.
He was also a white supremacist and had been heavily radicalized
by the anti governmental beliefs.
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OK did CNN write this? He orchestrated the attacks that
would concede with the Waco siege anniversary.
Damn. OK.
He was caught alongside Nicholas's accomplice and was
sentenced to death. His Co conspirator was sentenced
to 161 consecutive life sentences.
Damn bitch, your soul's going tobe serving.
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He was executed in 2001. He declined a final statement
but wrote a letter a day before.OK, let's read the letter.
Well they just one segment they showed but let's read the
segment. I am sorry these people had to
lose their lives, but that's thenature of the beast.
It's understood giving, it's understood going in what the
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human toll would will be OK. Sounds like a schizo.
He thinks he's God and wow. Are these photos of what he did
or is that like it being demolished?
Holy shit. Yeah, we have his mug shot for
my audio stemmers only. I'm showing the visual friends
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his mug shot, obviously when he first did it, and then obviously
the most updated one before his prison sentence, His deathbed
sentence. Damn, those aren't brutal.
Let's go and take a look at the comments.
Top one, my great aunt testifiedat Terry's trials because she
witnessed him disposing of all the extra fertilizer.
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He was just stumping it on the yard until it looked like snow.
I was four and lived in Oklahomaat the time of the bombing and
we went to see the building likeright after it happened.
OK. I remember looking up into the
building and seeing a white sweater draped over the back of
an office chair. I remember my mom talking to a
firefighter because she thought she could see a person in one of
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the offices. Damn, the same year of 911 too.
Oh my God. Buildings were blocks around,
had their windows blown out. It was awful.
Another comment, I was 10 years old in elementary school just
north of it. My grade was going to be heading
out around 10:00 AM to go to a performance at the Civic Center.
Some kids said they felt a weirdshake.
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I heard a sound almost like a commercial dumpster being
dropped. It was a beautiful spring day
and then it was the worst. They said the same thing about
911 when the towers fell, that it was like one of the most
beautiful, like skies, like blueskies.
And actually at one of the memorial place, well be memorial
places that's there, the World Trade Center memorial in New
York inside you can be obviouslythere's a building inside.
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They have a wall that's dedicated to all the different
shades of blue of what the sky was.
And not one photo matches another shade of blue that's on
that wall. And it matches the same amount
of casualties that happened thatday.
And it, it has like a quote if Iremember correctly about how
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beautiful the sky was that day or something like that.
It's really interesting. I highly recommend you looking
up the the the Skywall and the World Trade Center.
Another comment, I was 8 years old when this happened.
To this day I still remember that photo of the fireman
holding the little baby with hersocks on her tiny feet.
Wow, another one. I so clearly remember the photo
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of the firefighter carrying the baby away from the wreckage.
It was on the front page of the newspaper and was so
heartbreaking. I love reading comments from
editors that explain their perspective of a massive like
news break. Like I, I just, I'm absolutely
obsessed with that. I, I, I really enjoy that
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because it gives you a lot of insight rather than what we're
used to, how we just read it forface value like a news story.
But I have no idea what fully happened in this, so I'm going
to search this up. So this is Timothy McVeigh.
Let's see it. What did he do?
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It's Oklahoma City bombing. OK, so it was a domestic
terrorist attack of the federal building in Oklahoma City.
The bombing remains the deadliest act of domestic
terrorism in U.S. history. When I never learned about this,
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but then again, public schools, let's read some facts about it.
Oh man, I'm going to like hyper fixate on this one because I
I've never ever heard about thisone.
And it shows a photo of the building like how we just saw it
right here. Let me pull it back up from my
visual words. It's the same exact photo.
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A massive homemade bomb composedof more than two tons of nitrate
fertilizer and fuel oil and a rental truck exploded.
A total of 168 people dead, 19 children, 500 injured.
Oh, man, a park is built on the sites.
The bombing remained the deadliest one until the attacks
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on the World Trade Center. It says so that was September
11th, 2001 for 911 and this was April 19th.
Damn. Oh no, I got the dates confused.
It's April 19th, 1995. It did not happen the same year,
2000 and one. Wow.
So at first a suspicion they wrongfully focus on a Middle
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Eastern terrorist group. Wow.
Both Terry and Timothy were former U.S.
Army soldiers. What the hell?
This is why it's so important that we need mental health for
our troops. Bro they see stuff that like no
one can relate to hell and America kind of like mocks it
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with like the video games for little kids to play.
I know you've seen videos of like of like grandpa playing
like those war games and either getting shell shock or like
completely going on a kill streak with the sniper.
OK, They weren't connected to any political group.
I'm trying to see if there's anyother information I can add here
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while we're at it before I wrap up this episode.
Doesn't seem so. Doesn't seem so, but damn.
OK, that's it for today's murdermysteries and crime and all that
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fun stuff. I don't know too many names of
true crime, but the ones I do know I could talk a lot about,
so it was nice to learn some things with you today.
I don't usually learn too much. I just read people's drama
stories. I guess I learn after each story
how much we're losing. What's that called?
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Trust in each other. Everyone's just after each
other. Ah, you don't got to do that.
You don't got to do that. You don't always have to be
after each other. Just because something bad
happened to you doesn't mean that's everyone's intention.
And yeah, do with this information as you will.
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My fellow Gato gangs, You have been listening to Reddit radio.
Catch you on the next frequency.
Serial killers, unsolved crimes and stories that'll make you
question all your neighbors. You're welcome.
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All righty. Now that the legally distinct
theme music has fooled you into thinking that this is
professional, let's get into thekind of true crime content that
makes FBI agents side eye your search history.
Sorry about that. OK, so today we are going into a
bunch of different subreddits that obviously focus on true
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crime such as True Crime Discussion, Serial Killers, and
Unsolved Mysteries. Those are the three subreddits
we are going into. Lori Page, 12 year old girl
missing from Tallahassee, FL whovanished in June 2023 has been
found dead. Her father has been arrested in
connection with her murder. OK let's let's read it and there
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is an update. So fantastic.
Lori was a 12 year old African American girl from Tallahassee,
FL. At the time of her
disappearance, she was a studentin middle school and described
as a studious girl who was afraid of making bad grades.
She went missing on June 2nd, 2023.
Real quick. I am pretty sure that if she was
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known for not wanting to make bad grades, being afraid of it,
that means she was probably afraid to tell somebody to like
get away. Like they're just being like
super nice. And I have a feeling that might
have been what happened, especially since it was, it said
it was tied to her father. So it's like, oh, we got to keep
it. I got to keep it head in from
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the public. I don't want people to know my
dad's bad, you know blah blah blah blah because they don't
just murder like things lead up to it.
ANYWAYS, she went missing on June 2nd, 2023.
According to some sources, she had a history of running away
from home but would always return on her own after a short
time. She was never seen again after
June 2023 disappearance. Today as of April 11th, 2025 S
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about two weeks ago based on this recording.
So do the math on your own, OK? The Tallahassee Police
Department revealed that Lori has been found deceased.
They did not give any details onthe location of her remains or
what led to her discovery. Her father Andrew had was
arrested and charged with her murder.
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He was the one to initially report her missing and who had
her mother removed from the property shortly before Lori
disappeared, allegedly because of an argument he stated that
Lori left at the backpack. According to police.
There has been inconsistencies in the story about Lori's
disappearance, and his phone revealed questionable Internet
searches. I would love to know what those
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Internet searches are. It's probably like Reddit, how
can I hide my daughter's murder?Like come on, like how?
How questionable are we talking?They do have an edit and it's
just about like apologizing I forgot to include a link blah
blah blah and included the sources.
So let's go ahead and see what what it has to say.
With the this case. There might be a little bit more
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insight. Yep there is.
Top comment being the previous write up says that Lori was
afraid of low grades and test scores.
I wonder if this is a intrinsic fear.
I have never heard that word before in my life.
I need to look that word up. And yes, you probably saying
damn, you don't know any words 'cause you say this every
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episode, do you guys? How many fucking words are in
the English Dictionary? It's belonging to the essential
nature or constitution of something inherent or essential
to something. That's that's basically what I
commented about it earlier saying she was too afraid to
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have bad grades. So that means that she's a very
timid, not wanting the spotlight, so something bad was
happening at home. She didn't want to talk to other
people about it. That's what I was thinking
anyways. Or she knew there would be
repercussions at home if a report card wasn't stellar.
I'd also like to know what Laurie considered low grades.
As a teacher, my Spidey sense istingling when I have a kid who's
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overly afraid of not getting straight A's or perfect test
stores. Good for you.
Most teachers don't give a rat'sfucking ass.
And you know that's just the beauty of the workforce these
days. You get the wrong people in the
wrong areas. Lots of kids are disappointed
with a low grade, but fear sometimes mean there's someone
at home who's going to be angry.This may or not may not have a
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thing to do with her murder, butthis stood out to me.
Hope Laurie gets justice and that her friends and loved ones
are able to find a measure of peace No child should have to
experience whatever it was she went through.
Another comment. Poor baby.
I hope she is resting in peace and that she gets justice from
his arrest. Damn, let's go ahead and go to
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the next story. She, she got her.
I mean, she finally had her story come to light.
I mean, took two years happened in June 2023.
It just happened, uh, April of 2025.
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Damn. And there's like no details of
location, no details of anything.
It's a very obviously still updating case.
So I mean, the only one who knows is the father and Laurie
and whatever God you believe in Peaches Dough and her daughter
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is identified. So this story comes from the
unresolved mysteries. So it's like a John Jane Doe
situation back in 1997. So on June 28th, 1997, a hiker
on a track there Long Island's Hempstead Lake Park is
discovered a Rubbermaid container in the woods,
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unfortunately containing the dismembered remains of a young
woman dead only days. This is why you don't buy used
Tupperware from the thrift stores.
That's not always going to be the spaghetti stains of
remicrowaving leftovers, OK? The woman, nicknamed Peaches for
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a distinctive tattoo, was missing her arms, head and legs
below the knee, some of which were ultimately found 14 years
later at Jones Beach State Park when authorities embarked on a
search for victims of a possibleserial killer.
The serial killer, later identified as Rex Hewer Man, was
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arrested in 2023 following Adna Match to Hewer Man's wife, whose
hair was left at the crime scene.
Dude, did she help? Did the wife help?
Or is this just the simpleness of woman sheds a lot?
Like I know I make hair portraits on the side of my
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shower as well on the tiles. If all my hair falling out, no
matter what, no matter how many supplements you do or whatever,
hair will just always fall out. It's just the beauty of the
beast of having a lot of fuckinghair.
So I wonder if like that was an accident or if she was involved.
Hmm OK, we're going to put that in the back of her head.
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During the 2011 search, the remains of an unidentified
toddler were discovered near what was found of Peaches.
DNA testing ultimately determined that the little girl
was Peach's daughter. Are you bruh?
How are you going to Oh, OK. Anyways, that's why we read true
crime. I guess it's it's the
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fascination of how the fuck and why the fuck.
Today, Peaches and her daughter were finally identified.
We have Tanya Denise Jackson andTatiana Marie Dykes born in
Alabama. Tanya Jackson, only 26 years
old, was last known to be livingin Brooklyn, NY City at the time
of her disappearance. It's quite a travel.
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Tanya was an Army veteran and single mother to a 2 year old
daughter, Tatiana Marie. Neither one was ever reported
missing due to family estrangement from both her
family and that of her daughter's father.
Dude did. Did the did the family and the
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father hire this dude to take care of them?
What the hell? Let's go ahead and see what the
comments have to say. Obviously they put sources.
Top comment is incredible that she's finally been given a name,
but so sad to get the circumstances surrounding the
family relations prior to her death.
Hope there are some friends out there getting closure from this.
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I mean I don't think so. I don't think there's any
friends either. Who the fuck just doesn't care
that a friend just ghosts them? Like either A1, you don't check
in because you know, you fucked up or two, you just never had
that deep of a relationship. And if I mean if somebody comes
from a family without having a good relationship, they tend to
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not want to be close to other people.
But another comment, after 27 years being known as Peaches and
Jane doe #3 I'm glad they finally have their name back.
She was born in Alabama. She served in the US Army at
Fort Sam Houston, in San Antonio, Fort Gordon and I don't
know Augusta, I don't know at Fort Leonard Wood and Montana
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and they were born in she was born in Texas, little baby.
Neither were ever reported missing.
Police have spoken with the father and state he is
cooperating with the investigation.
He has not been named, like publicly.
Police did not reveal that they are currently investigating the
homicides as related to the LongIsland serial killers case.
I wonder why they're keeping this concealed from the public.
Maybe they believe that the casegets too closely associated with
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Rex and Rex's investigation. It'll prevent other potential
tips from coming in. Probably has to do with how
there could be many ways to movethis case forward in relations
to other cases being tied together.
So yeah, they're probably just being safe than sorry.
And how terrible to go missing and have absolutely no one
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report it. Fucking devastating actually.
But look, look at them now. They they have multiple people
in 2025 happy for them. So although that is a pretty sad
situation, it's better than yourstory never even being picked up
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by the media. Think about all those people
that have died that are undocumented, like or just
missing and that's it. I I find I find at least closure
and justice for the case actually be investigated and
having leads. That's more than most.
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A woman's body is found after a house fire.
Her autopsy reveals that she hadmultiple plastic surgeries done
in the past. Who was Anna?
This is in 2024. So hello, everyone.
As always, I'd like to thank youfor all your votes and comments.
Blah, blah, blah. Mr. Freeman, I need to.
OK. They're just introducing
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everything. I just need this story.
Here we go. On the 5th of February a house
fire broke out in the British Columbia, Canada but when it was
put out a victim was discovered,a woman who was only known as
Anna. She was a white woman about 40
to 60 years of age. That is a insane like age range.
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I get it, she was in a fire, butwhat do we what?
I thought we had the technology to be able to detect that.
OK? Like a carpet print of like the
ashes. OK.
Anyways, she was 5 foot one, 130lbs, Gray eyes and Gray long
straight hair. The most unusual part of Anna's
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case is the fact that she had quite a lot of plastic surgery
done. She had silicone implants on her
calves. You can do that, brother.
Just just walk. Just walk.
The calves can just grow breastsand buttocks.
OK. Other than that, she had a
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circum. What circumference?
Teal scar. I That has to be a misspelling.
OK. Anyways, that has to be a
misspelling. A scar around her lower abdomen
and back, which was likely caused by a plastic surgery
known as tummy tuck. So I guess it's like a scar that
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circles all the way around OK. Which in Anna's case seemingly
also involved her back. The surgery involves removal of
excess skin, in fact, to achievea more toned look.
Bro 20-30 minutes a day. Just walk.
Just walk. There's also speculation that
she had some work done on her face, but I can't say for
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certain. The post mortem photo of her
head is available in the sources.
So if anyone has more experiencewith facial plastic surgery, I'd
like to hear your insight. Dan, they're actually really
trying to figure out who this isthat they're including that
photo for the public. So we do have a conclusion.
I know that this write up is rather scant and lacking in
details, but I'm afraid that there just isn't many sources to
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this case. It's just an entry on the
database. It's a pretty new case.
Despite the lack of details, we do have this very curious and
interesting Anna had a lot of plastic surgery, more than the
average person who opts to have plastic surgery.
Not to mention what she did havewas quite invasive and
expensive. And discussions on this case,
people have speculated that Annamight have been someone like a
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model, bodybuilder, aspiring actress, or an exotic dancer.
That she might have been in a profession that required her to
look a certain way. What?
But she wasn't working at a timeof death.
Hold on, hold on. I wonder if she changed her look
so that nobody would recognize her.
Maybe she wanted to start a new life and cut herself off in the
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past and nobody knew her name even when she was living in a
house. Or it was a fake name.
No neighbors know, not a person,not the person that she was
renting from. Didn't know OK that I would like
to know more insight on because to like rent a property let
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alone be a home or an apartment you kind of have to like prove
your income. Unless she like just had cash
flowing and just threw all the money at them to shut them up.
And Anna might not even bend hergovernment name.
The description of the discoveryis also vague.
We only know that she was found in a house.
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We don't know if she was rentingor if the house was abandoned or
anything else. Wow OK Dang this this redditor
went into it. This is still Opie's original
post. Opie is saying that they feel
like it was most likely suicide in an accident.
Hold on hold on. OK and they provide like a
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hotline for people to suggest tips.
Let's see what like the commentsare saying because I'm a little
confused. Top comment.
Calf implants are pretty rare, especially for a woman.
Other than getting work done forprofessional reasons, she could
have just had severe body dysmorphia and mental illness
which fits with her isolation and no one reporting her
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missing. Yep, facelift, rhinoplasty, and
possible upper I. I'm not into plastic surgery so
I don't know these words. OK, I'm not a fan of that stuff.
The tummy tuck lift makes me think she may have once been way
heavier and lost a lot of weightand had loose skin, Possibly the
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implants everywhere else to build back definition.
Sounds about right. And I bet she had a facelift.
She has the telltale ear scar. That's what somebody said
because they looked at the photoof her head.
So if you want to look at the photo of her head, go over to
this story right here posted by Alfred the Jones and take a
look. Hell, let Reddit know what you
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think about it. Let me know what you think about
it. Because what a what an odd, odd
tale. Very concerning.
Woman leaves on a few day trip with her two dogs.
Her car is found abandoned on a dead end Lodging Rd. after two
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weeks without her or her dogs anywhere.
Where is Tammy? OK, what is this the same
person? It is the same person.
It's Alfred the Jones. Like the last story.
OK, all right. So Tammy was 54 when she went
missing from Oregon. She lived in Red Bluff, CA where
she worked as a realtor. It seems like her job ended by
the account of her family, but I'm not sure if that means that
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Tammy was fired or quit out of her own will.
Tammy was married for 20 years, but she and her husband were in
the process of a divorce. The divorce was finalized August
of 2023. And Tammy sure will go to her
son if she will remain missing. Investigate that son.
Investigate that son. I'm telling you right now,
that's probably the end of the story.
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Yeah, that's my that's my speculation.
OK. She had missed her son's wedding
and the birth of her grandchild,which happened after she went
missing. Yep, investigate that.
Investigate that son. Dude, I, I kind of actually feel
bad 'cause like, what if the son's like, like obviously this
is probably like extremely traumatizing, especially if you
just got married, just had a sonand your mom just was like yo,
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like yo bitch, where where you at Mama?
Like the hell. OK.
She had two dogs, a white, black, brown Jack Russell
terrier and another smaller white dog.
She was an avid supporter of herlocal animal rescue.
Her half sister said that the time of her disappearance her
sister was not mentally well andthat she got a little bit
scared. The sisters were strange for
five years and had a difficult and strained relationship.
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They only found out about Tammy's disappearance after
about two months after it happened.
Nevertheless, she described Tammy as an amazing person and
started that the sisters were close when they were growing up.
Man dude, This is why you can dowelfare checks OK?
Like a simple call. A simple call.
Nope, got to wait two months after, huh?
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All right, the disappearance. Tammy has last been seen by her
family on 14th of October. By her son specifically.
I'm telling you about that son. She told him that she was going
on a trip and that she would be back on Monday.
So in about 3 days she left withboth the dogs.
On the 15th, Tammy had purchaseda prepaid phone card and
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withdrew $1000 from a bank account to her name that nobody
knew she had. She then purchased Taco Bell in
California. There's a city called Weed CA.
That's where she bought Taco Bell.
Taco Bell in Weed CA and gas in Glendale, OR.
That's a really far distance. So you mean to tell me she just
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bought gas once? Well I guess she withdrew $1000.
That's probably why she did so she wouldn't have a trail.
Interesting. I still I still think the son
did it. OK, she purchased a prepaid
$300.00 Visa card in Oregon and made a purchase at a convenience
store in Glendale, OR. You need to pull up those tapes.
Pull up those tapes please. Is that her buying it?
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Is that actually her and is she by herself?
Lord have mercy that this is more than enough leads for
further investigation. OK Anyways.
On the 16th, Tammy had reserved a room in Oregon.
She did it using your husband's credit card, but it's believed
that she paid with cash. What is that?
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Why would it be believed that she paid with cash if she used
her husband's credit card? Like either she used it or she
didn't? On the 17th, Tammy had purchased
gas in Oregon at 6:45 AM. She then stopped at a Rite Aid
in Oregon. Between 10:30 to 11:00 she
bought a lighter there. She was caught on the security
camera in the business across the street along with her dogs.
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Thank you. Finally we get a security like
update. She had been reported missing on
the 26th of October, but it's unknown who reported her.
What do you mean it's unknown? I I feel like they're just not
releasing that information because it's an active case.
OK Tammy's car, a Gray Toyota Camry, very reliable OK have
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been located at the end of a dead end road off of Hwy. 2030
miles east of Oregon of Sweet Home, OR and I've been found by
a hunter who was in the area. They found the car suspicious
and called their find at 10:52 AM on the 29th of October.
So the last time she was seen was at the gas station at 6:45
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AM on the 17th and then the car got reported on the 29th.
So we're we're working with about like 2 weeks like give or
take. Right when the cops arrived at
the scene, they discovered that the car belonged to Tammy.
According to her relatives, Tammy had no connections to that
area where the car had been found.
It's estimated that the car had been there since the 17th,
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giving the absence of tire marksin the mud and the overall
condition of the car. There is snowfall between the
17th and the 29th and the fact that the rotors on the car were
showing signs of rusting like the car had been out in wet
weather. What so many cars park like
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where snowstorms are like, snowstorms happen a lot.
That's how quick it is for that shit to rust.
No wonder you can't find like a Mazda Miata, like one of the
original N As without fucking rust.
If it only took, what, the 17th and 29th?
I don't. I don't really like that, that
detail. That's kind of silly.
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Inside the car, the investigators have found Tammy's
purse with their identification,her passport, Social Security
card, birth certificate, an overnight bag with toiletries,
her regular medication, a rustedand busted gun.
Whoa leashes for her dogs, an extra key fob in the trunk, and
two Home Depot moving boxes, onecontaining clothing and the
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other containing shoes. It's believed that Tammy had the
burner phone, prepaid card, cashand key fob for her car on her.
The area where Tammy's car was found had been searched by Teams
and Canine Dogs. When the thing was found, swabs
were taken out from the steeringwheel in the driver's side
doors. No prints could be recovered due
to the weather that the car was left in and the DNA has not been
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processed. By the 16th of October 2024, the
car had been released to Tammy'sson.
Two weeks after it was found. On the 10th of February 2023,
one of Tammy's dogs, Trooper, had been found alive running
along Hwy. 20 between mile post 55 and 61, close to the woods
where Tammy's car had been abandoned.
He was healthy despite spending a long time in the woods.
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Damn, that's that's a lot of months.
That's a lot of months, man. OK.
Tammy's husband has since remarried and sold Tammy's car a
few weeks after she went missing.
What justice for Tammy, man, Whojust goes ahead and goes?
Yet my wife went missing, which is a very complicated situation
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for the grieving process to justthrow it all away like that.
Like. And who allowed him to sell the
car? Isn't that like key evidence?
I have so many questions. The dog has since been rehomed
and lives in with an Oregon couple.
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The the sister said that Tammy'shusband and son didn't want to
pick him up when he was found. The sister is in contact with
the couple and still receives updates on her sister's dog.
I think that regardless of what exactly happened to Tammy, it's
likely that she was in a fragilemental state when she left home
on the 14th. She's been divorcing her
husband, she lost her job and her son was about to marry and
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start his own family. Quite a lot of big life changes
in a short span of time. She was most likely quite
vulnerable to many things. Her car being found in such a
remote out of the way spot is quite strange.
Tammy wasn't familiar with the area and there's no info on her
being a big nature lover, so thefact that it was found in a
lodging Rd. is suspicious. Damn.
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So Opie keeps going and keeps going.
OK we're just going to go to thecomments because this is all
about Opie's like opinions of it.
Like nothing wrong with that. It's just it was like 5
paragraphs and you know we got other stories to read.
OK top comments. I live near where the car was
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found and while I hadn't been toservice roads there
specifically, I spent my whole life going up them.
It would be so incredibly easy to get lost and die of exposure
or take a tumble down a hill. Obviously we don't know why she
went there, but it's a pretty common thing to do here.
My guess is regardless of why she stopped, she got lost and
never made it back. Another comment to be I guess
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they forgot the word fair. So to be fair, this seems like a
pretty likely suicide. Her family knew she was unwell.
She had been let go from her job.
It's possible she just walked asfar into the wilderness as
possible before killing herself or falling.
Coming to the elements, yeah, it's a dense forest out there.
Doesn't surprise me that she hasn't been found.
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OK, because of that comments, I have a conclusion.
It's not the fact that she was aforce lover, nature lover, like
how they were like. There's no signs that she even
did hiking or anything. It was most likely a suicide in
the sense of, hey, I'm going to take my two dogs.
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I love my two dogs. I don't trust my husband and I
don't trust my son and I have noone else.
So I'm going to take my dogs with me because they're animals
and they can survive out in the forest.
You see where I'm going with this?
You see where I'm going with this?
So she killed herself in the forest.
Obviously she hasn't been found and she did it with her dogs
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around and then the dogs were free to figure out how to
survive because, you know, forests have water and animals
which are food. That's probably most likely what
happened, unfortunately, very, very unfortunately.
And I highly, highly speculate that the the son and the father
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were pushing her to her last wits of mentality and she
probably wasn't even really involved with the wedding or
like really involved with the the wife and the new kid, like
during the pregnancy. Yeah, investigate all of them.
Get statements. Come on, get statements.
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All righty. What victim of any serial killer
sticks with you the most? So this one's off of the serial
killer subreddit. As a discussion, what victim of
a serial killer story sticks with you the most?
My list of victims that stick with me are sorry in advance if
I butcher these names. Kimberly Leach, the victim of
Ted Bundy. Shirley Ledford and Cindy
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Schaefer, victims of the Toolboxkillers.
J Simon, victim of Dean Quarrel.Just how young they were and how
they were mostly children stickswith me.
So this is mainly like a commentthread.
Let's go ahead and read the comments.
The kid who escaped from JeffreyDahmer only to be given back to
Dahmer by the cops. What?
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No way. I had no idea that that even
happens. Another comment, Heather W.
The fact that Fred and Rose wereso deprived that their own
children weren't even spared. OK that's pretty sad.
I don't know much about any of these so like please do let me
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know some like context about these.
So Tammy Homilika the Factor sister drugged and raped her and
essentially served her up to Bernardo, which is Sharon Tate's
demise was truly horrific. And then another comment.
Mary Vincent had both of her arms cut off and still managed
to survive. The guy was released and went on
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to kill again. That reminds me of the
Tupperware guy that I I honestlycan't look at Tupperware the
same again. I'm sorry to everyone else.
OK, I didn't mean to impose thatthought every time you look at
it now. Sorry.
How good of actors do you think serial killers have to be to
fill those around them such as family, friends, employers,
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etcetera? And why when serial killers get
caught, often their family will say that they had no idea the
person was a serial killer. This is surprising to me because
the family spends a lot of time with the serial killer.
They see their personality and you would, you know, you would
think you'd see cracks in their personality if they were there
and their comings and goings To some degree.
I think it's true with employerswho spend a good amount of time
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with the serial killer and coworkers friends to some
degree, although might not spendas much time with them.
So are they especially like goodactors?
Like. So that's basically what Opie is
asking. Like it's strange to think of
someone whose entire life is something of an act.
That's why it's a mental disorder.
That's why it's a mental disorder.
Take a look at the comments. Oh Jesus.
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As I hit the microphone. I would think it's more just a
compartment. Compartment.
Mentalizing. So like storing it in your head?
Everyone does that to some degree.
I'm not the same person at work as I am like I am with my wife
or friends. That's true.
People just don't open up to anyone and they only open up to
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the other voices in their head. When my family and friends show
you the person you are. Most all the time.
When I'm doing serial killer things and those people will see
the other side. OK, there are of course
expectations, but most serial killers aren't drooling maniacs
and are able to keep that part of themselves under wraps most
of the time. There's also the fact that I
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might think someone is weird or off in some way, but I probably
wouldn't assume that they're killing people.
That would be a huge leap to make for most people.
Also, always remember the serialkillers that this is my opinion.
By the way, this is not a comment.
This is this is me right here. Tired Gato.
The serial killers that you're investigating that everyone
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knows about are only the ones that are caught.
Think about the people that aren't caught.
Think about the different ways that they they do it right, like
the different ways. So that's another huge insight.
So don't just go basing how you would assume serial killers are
or like what their day-to-day lifestyle is or you know, like
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those YouTube videos or like a day in a life with a serial
killer. No, like all research when it
comes to true crime is about studying people who get caught,
not people who literally don't get caught, because that's a
completely different level. Just a heads up.
So put that into minds while I continue reading these comments.
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It's about the ones that didn't do it in a way that was
seclusive I guess. Because you know the goal of the
serial killer is to kill and keep doing it.
So if you get caught, you can't keep doing it, right?
OK, that's what I meant by that.Another comment.
Some of them just blend in so well in their community.
John Wayne Gacy was an example of that.
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That's a clown dude, right? I believe most people even
thought he was a good guy, a good neighbor or whatever.
Outside of his crimes, he probably seemed ordinary, even
decent and upstanding. And when he talked about his
crimes and interviews, there isn't much emotion there.
It's like it barely registers tohim how awful his crimes were.
That level of psychopathy could mean you don't really have to be
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an actor if you don't even feel what you've done is horrific,
you just mimic normal emotions. He had been doing that all of
his life. It doesn't feel like acting
anymore, I guess. All right.
And then one of the last comments on this one.
You're assuming all serial killers are dysfunctional
weirdos and a never ending battle with their bloodlust and
deviant desires. Sounds like something a serial
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killer would say. This this redditor That's that
seems like something a serial killer would say.
Most of them are roughly normal people that you wouldn't suspect
of being ruthless killers. Wow.
OK, And another question in the serial killer community.
Do serial killers who get away with the crimes often fear
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getting caught or move on fast? I guess that has to do with like
their own preference. You can't just group the man.
What the hell? OK, let's read their post.
For example, I wonder what the Zodiac was thinking as he got
away with it. You'll never know.
Probably scared. And but what about the 1980s,
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Nineteen 90s, or even today? If he's still alive?
Does he even think? I mean, we already know it, like
Ted Cruz, right? It's Ted Cruz.
Yeah. Does he even think much of it,
or is it most of it in the back of his head?
What about I-70 or Bible John? What the hell?
There's so many serial killer names.
OK did not know the lower of I-70.
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It was like I-70 like Interstate70.
Who knows Bible John. OK, but this isn't about the
Zodiac killer. It's just in general.
It probably depends on the killer, but it fascinates me.
And let's see what the comments are saying.
Your answer lies in the body of the post itself.
It depends on the killer. That's it. close the thread.
That's it. OK.
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If you're talking the case of Zodiac would say he did enjoy it
as he sent taunting letters to the police.
Exactly. If you had to pick a serial
killer that probably didn't enjoy getting chased, and that
would be Jeffrey Dahmer. So yeah, it depends on the
killer. Yep.
It's just like how you like generalize, like different
genres of music or shows or anything that people want
different. And in the end, they they want
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people to know of them. But it's how many people just
the victims or the family of thevictims?
Or do they want it like a mass like news article?
It completely depends. Another comment Zodiac was
arrogant and thought he was smarter than the cops.
I guess at that time he was because they never caught him.
I really think he would have died by now or at least be very
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very like old. Honestly, with all the murders
that was that he committed, I highly doubt he had regrets
about killing anyone. I'm sure as he got older, he
probably thought about what he did, remembered it fondly and
that's about it. His identity is just something
we'll probably never know. And another one, It's often a
cat and mouse game. Many of them enjoy the thrill of
being chased. Yeah.
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OK. And another question.
How many more questions do do I have pulled up?
So you have two more stories andthen one more question.
So here's the last question. What serial killer has affected
the way you live your life either today or back when the
serial killer was active for me was Ted Bundy.
It has put me off helping anyonethat is wearing a cast sling,
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crutches or walking aid. Selfish.
But yeah, shook me to my car even today.
Very valid. Very valid.
OK Richard Chase, the vampire ofSacramento broke into homes to
kill people and drink their blood.
Bro had a iron deficiency. OK When asked how he chose his
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victims he said he just tried a door and if it was locked he
knew he wasn't welcome so when it was open he'd just go in.
Damn mentality of a four year old.
It's cookie jar in front of me. Cookie's mine.
I used to be casual about locking the door up to the point
but now I always make sure my doors are locked.
Bro I don't think you needed a serial killer to make you want
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your doors locked. A little concerned for this
redditor. Another one BTK Just knowing how
long he watched people learn their habits and schedules.
I feel like I'm always more paranoid of unknown cars in my
area or just being more alert ingeneral.
Now, if somebody was watching you, they wouldn't have the car
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easily seen. They would probably like park
with other cars that would like like if you have an apartment
complex and you have an area where a lot of like DoorDash
drivers like go or a lot of likea visiting area, like that's
where they'll probably part. Not like in front of, you know,
grandma's apartment that never has visitors.
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Like, come on. Yeah, At that point, don't be
paranoid because even if it's infront of your face, you wouldn't
even know. So like, don't.
Yeah, just stop overthinking that.
That's insane. That's insane.
Talk about being so paranoid youcan't even think straight, man,
That's. That's insane.
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OK Paul Denyer Australia I neverget into my car without checking
the back seats that remind me ofthat one of that like slices
your the back of your ankles under the car.
It was like a female serial killer.
That shit fucked me up when I learned about that growing up.
But the one that really sticks with me now that I unfortunately
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did to myself was the now the spaghetti containers like
Tupperware. I don't think I'll ever be able
to shake that one. Another comment, I always check
my closets before I go to bed ofdue to BTK.
That's another BTK reference. I also ignore men I don't know
asking me questions on the street or whatever.
It's better to be impolite and safe than polite and a victim.
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Referencing back to that poor girl that was afraid to get bad
grades. I think she just didn't want to
be impolite or stir up the house, even though usually with
people that I don't know, kill their children or just abuse
their children in general. No matter what boundaries set,
you never will do it right even if you do it right because
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nothing's right in their fuckingeyes.
Let's go ahead and get into the second to last story.
This is in the true crime discussion titled Judy and Shen
Gifford, 14, disappeared in 1976.
Her body was found the same year, but it would take 43 years
before she was identified. Child abuse and murder in this
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one. So go ahead and go to the next
episode. No, no need to listen to
something that would harm you. That's that's ridiculous.
You don't need to relive it. OK, so they did include photos
of her for my audio stemmers of her throughout her life.
She seems fairly healthy, not underweight, not overweight, has
multiple different clothing items on, no repeats, no
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bruises. Healthy teeth family vacation
photo necklaces. So like there there's love and
people love her. Not saying you need necklaces
and multiple clothing items to be loved by the way, just a
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right of way determination that there was people in her life to
clothe her and to make sure she had necessities.
So let's go ahead and read the comments real quick because
there's nothing else. Oh no no no the comment OK I was
like where is the story of her? So Opie included it in a
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comments OK. Judy was born on January 31st,
193062 in South Korea. Her parents divorced that same
year with her father having custody of her.
Very uncommon in Korea. OK damn, what the fuck did the
mom do? And the two of them moved to
Hawaii in 1963. Her father was enlisted in the
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US Army and was deployed to Vietnam for training.
So Judy's aunt in New Jersey took care of her.
Her aunt and uncle legally adopted her, planning to keep
her until her father could find a wife and settle down.
In 1964, she became Judy Gifford.
OK, so a military kid. Judy's father remarried in 1969.
Nice not the remarried part I mean whatever he wants to do his
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own life, but 196969 nice and by1972 had two more children for
aunt. Do you just snip it like if
you're no like just snip it For unknown reasons, By 1976, Judy
was still under the case of her aunt and her uncle had died in
1974. Around this time, when she was
14, Judy began to misbehave, letting her grade slip and
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getting into trouble with the law.
Don't blame her at this point. Her aunt returned her to her
father and his new family in California.
The father had two kids and he has a new home.
And no wonder Judy was acting out.
She she lost her mom and then she lost her second mom, which
is her aunt basically aunt like literally died.
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And then he the what do you callthat the uncle?
Wait, her uncle died? Wait, Oh no, no, sorry.
What? Her aunt didn't die.
Wow. I I'm reading the story and I'm
confused. I guess I'm just so stunned by
how much people have failed her at such a short amount of time
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of life she's lived. OK, so her uncle died and then
Judy started misbehaving and then the aunt returned it to OK.
So yeah, she's still technicallylost her second mom because it
seems like the mom just kind of gave up on her too.
And I mean, hell, it's the the second family and like, dude,
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like I'm telling you, it's it's the father just did not know how
to grieve. So he was like, let me just
remake a different life. Let me play fairy land and like,
go ahead and like act like the family I first had never
happens. Wow.
Because that'll fix everything. OK, Average mindset of an
alcoholic. At that point, Judy's half
brother remembers a phone call between Judy and her aunt when
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Judy tearfully asking her aunt to take her back and her aunt
replying that she needed to learn to love her biological
father. It is unknown what happened
leading up to her disappearance.Her brother says that he was
told that she was flying, flyingback to be with her aunt and her
aunt believed that she had run away.
The fuck? On October 1st, 1976, Judy's
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then unidentified body was foundon the shore of the Lake Merced
in San Francisco. She had been strangled but was
fully clothed. Damn.
And it's not damn that that wasn't strangled by water.
They're strangled by force like somebody and just disposed of.
OK, somebody. In 2019 of sometime in 2019,
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Judy was formally identified through DNA comparison with her
half brother. Judy's brother says that her
aunt had lived with the regret of having Judy stay with her
father ever since she disappeared.
She wishes that she did not rebuff Judy's Christ and wanting
to fly back to New Jersey and live with her, but instead would
have said yes, come on back, I'll buy the airplane ticket.
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Right now. It is currently unknown who
murdered her and there's a side note I am not applying.
It was her father. I don't think he's considered a
suspect. Comments, comments comments,
comments. OK, read it.
Top comment other than obviouslythe story.
I wonder who strangled her, whatthe motive was maybe just a
crime of opportunity. Unfortunately, yeah, she
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probably didn't have a lot of confidence.
And he they you know, the killers usually are smart.
They they can like assess if somebody like doesn't have a lot
going on in their life and that's an easy like easy in and
out man. Easy in and out.
Another comment, the brother being told Judy's gone back to
be with her aunt. Sounds to me like something you
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say to your child to easily explain why she isn't there
anymore. But in reality she was killed by
him the father. Just my gut feeling reading it.
I am so happy that this comment exists because that is that's
exactly what you need to a kid when you say that like the dog
died. No, I just went back to the
farm. No, it just wants to go back.
No, they the, the people actually wanted him back at the
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shelter. Oh, the people that we got him
from actually wanted him back. That's that's exactly what
happened. And that is did this redditor
nailed it on the head. Nailed it on the head.
And I can't believe it took 43 years to identify her.
Absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
On this day 30 years ago, Timothy, alongside his
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accomplice Terry, would orchestrate one of the deadliest
domestic terrorist attacks in all of history.
On April 19th, 1995. Timothy would orchestrate.
OK, just literally said the sametitle.
Said the same title. The attack killed 168 people, 19
of which were children and babies, who were in the same
daycare center of the building. They stated that apparently he
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didn't know about the daycare and wouldn't have done it if he
knew about it. Wow.
He has priorities I guess. This has been dismissed as him
trying to garner sympathy literally as he had start staked
out the building before and musthave known he commented the
attack out of he committed. Wow I'm getting tired.
That's why I said this is the last story he come.
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I still did it. I still did it.
I'm just ready to read the comments and go to bed.
He committed the attack out of revenge for the Waco siege,
which was a brutal standoff between the ATF and the cult of
the Branch Davidens and Waco, TX.
Said siege ended in 28 children dying.
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Buck. He was also heavily angered at
the Ruby Ridge incident, which was also between the ATF and a
family. Both of these ATF incidents were
very widely criticized as disproportionate and corrupt.
He was also a white supremacist and had been heavily radicalized
by the anti governmental beliefs.
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OK did CNN write this? He orchestrated the attacks that
would concede with the Waco siege anniversary.
Damn. OK.
He was caught alongside Nicholas's accomplice and was
sentenced to death. His Co conspirator was sentenced
to 161 consecutive life sentences.
Damn bitch, your soul's going tobe serving.
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He was executed in 2001. He declined a final statement
but wrote a letter a day before.OK, let's read the letter.
Well they just one segment they showed but let's read the
segment. I am sorry these people had to
lose their lives, but that's thenature of the beast.
It's understood giving, it's understood going in what the
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human toll would will be OK. Sounds like a schizo.
He thinks he's God and wow. Are these photos of what he did
or is that like it being demolished?
Holy shit. Yeah, we have his mug shot for
my audio stemmers only. I'm showing the visual friends
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his mug shot, obviously when he first did it, and then obviously
the most updated one before his prison sentence, His deathbed
sentence. Damn, those aren't brutal.
Let's go and take a look at the comments.
Top one, my great aunt testifiedat Terry's trials because she
witnessed him disposing of all the extra fertilizer.
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He was just stumping it on the yard until it looked like snow.
I was four and lived in Oklahomaat the time of the bombing and
we went to see the building likeright after it happened.
OK. I remember looking up into the
building and seeing a white sweater draped over the back of
an office chair. I remember my mom talking to a
firefighter because she thought she could see a person in one of
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the offices. Damn, the same year of 911 too.
Oh my God. Buildings were blocks around,
had their windows blown out. It was awful.
Another comment, I was 10 years old in elementary school just
north of it. My grade was going to be heading
out around 10:00 AM to go to a performance at the Civic Center.
Some kids said they felt a weirdshake.
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I heard a sound almost like a commercial dumpster being
dropped. It was a beautiful spring day
and then it was the worst. They said the same thing about
911 when the towers fell, that it was like one of the most
beautiful, like skies, like blueskies.
And actually at one of the memorial place, well be memorial
places that's there, the World Trade Center memorial in New
York inside you can be obviouslythere's a building inside.
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They have a wall that's dedicated to all the different
shades of blue of what the sky was.
And not one photo matches another shade of blue that's on
that wall. And it matches the same amount
of casualties that happened thatday.
And it, it has like a quote if Iremember correctly about how
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beautiful the sky was that day or something like that.
It's really interesting. I highly recommend you looking
up the the the Skywall and the World Trade Center.
Another comment, I was 8 years old when this happened.
To this day I still remember that photo of the fireman
holding the little baby with hersocks on her tiny feet.
Wow, another one. I so clearly remember the photo
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of the firefighter carrying the baby away from the wreckage.
It was on the front page of the newspaper and was so
heartbreaking. I love reading comments from
editors that explain their perspective of a massive like
news break. Like I, I just, I'm absolutely
obsessed with that. I, I, I really enjoy that
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because it gives you a lot of insight rather than what we're
used to, how we just read it forface value like a news story.
But I have no idea what fully happened in this, so I'm going
to search this up. So this is Timothy McVeigh.
Let's see it. What did he do?
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It's Oklahoma City bombing. OK, so it was a domestic
terrorist attack of the federal building in Oklahoma City.
The bombing remains the deadliest act of domestic
terrorism in U.S. history. When I never learned about this,
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but then again, public schools, let's read some facts about it.
Oh man, I'm going to like hyper fixate on this one because I
I've never ever heard about thisone.
And it shows a photo of the building like how we just saw it
right here. Let me pull it back up from my
visual words. It's the same exact photo.
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A massive homemade bomb composedof more than two tons of nitrate
fertilizer and fuel oil and a rental truck exploded.
A total of 168 people dead, 19 children, 500 injured.
Oh, man, a park is built on the sites.
The bombing remained the deadliest one until the attacks
(52:36):
on the World Trade Center. It says so that was September
11th, 2001 for 911 and this was April 19th.
Damn. Oh no, I got the dates confused.
It's April 19th, 1995. It did not happen the same year,
2000 and one. Wow.
So at first a suspicion they wrongfully focus on a Middle
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Eastern terrorist group. Wow.
Both Terry and Timothy were former U.S.
Army soldiers. What the hell?
This is why it's so important that we need mental health for
our troops. Bro they see stuff that like no
one can relate to hell and America kind of like mocks it
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with like the video games for little kids to play.
I know you've seen videos of like of like grandpa playing
like those war games and either getting shell shock or like
completely going on a kill streak with the sniper.
OK, They weren't connected to any political group.
I'm trying to see if there's anyother information I can add here
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while we're at it before I wrap up this episode.
Doesn't seem so. Doesn't seem so, but damn.
OK, that's it for today's murdermysteries and crime and all that
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fun stuff. I don't know too many names of
true crime, but the ones I do know I could talk a lot about,
so it was nice to learn some things with you today.
I don't usually learn too much. I just read people's drama
stories. I guess I learn after each story
how much we're losing. What's that called?
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Trust in each other. Everyone's just after each
other. Ah, you don't got to do that.
You don't got to do that. You don't always have to be
after each other. Just because something bad
happened to you doesn't mean that's everyone's intention.
And yeah, do with this information as you will.
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My fellow Gato gangs, You have been listening to Reddit radio.
Catch you on the next frequency.
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