December 24, 2024 • 21 mins
Come share the coquito, pass the jamon y pernil and let's celebrate Nochebuena! Navidad is a special holiday for latinos and today we discuss our traditions, plans, and foods!
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Rediscovering Latinidad is an independent podcast. This show is hosted by Briar Rose, Fausto, Edward, y Jellissa and is engineered by Matthew Sambolin. Cover art designed by George Colon. If you would like to reach out, please email us at RediscoveringLatinidad@gmail.com, or leave us a voicemail at 646-470-9824. Please find us and follow our social media accounts on Facebook as Rediscovering Latinidad, on Instagram at @RediscoveringLatinidad, on Twitter at @RediscLatinidad, and on reddit at r/RediscoveringLatindad. If you would like to become a member of our Patreon, please join at: https://patreon.com/RediscoveringLatinidad?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Brain rose here from the Rediscovering Latini Do podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Serving and supporting our Latin familias is important in rewarding work,
but the reality is not all service providers are the same.
While there are lots of amazing teams out there doing
great work in a way that meets familias where they are,
we know that there is still also lots of room
for growth out there, which is why we want to
tell you about LATINX Parenting and their professional partnerships. LATINX
(00:39):
Parenting is an organization based in Santana, California, dedicated to
bringing trauma informed, healing centered family education to the Latin
community in a way that is culturally relevant, accessible, and compassionate.
They have worked with schools, universities, and organizations around the country,
including MIT, Mihinte and the Institute of Child Technology, presenting workshops, trainings,
(01:04):
and series for professionals working with the Latin community. Whether
you're an educator, a therapist, a medical provider, social worker,
school administrator, or anyone serving Latin familias, LATINX Parenting has
something for you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Reach out to partnerships at Latinxparenting dot org to learn
how to bring LATINX parenting to your communidad.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Welcome back everyone. This is season five, episode fifteen of
Rediscovering Latini Dad. Thanks for joining us for a fantastic season,
and is now the season finale and we're airing this
two days early because tonight is not.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, we got through spooky season. Thank you, Thanksgiving,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, we talked, you know about Puerto Rico.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Are you going to have some coo?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Hell? Yeah, uh no, I'm going to have yese, which
is mattrine, which is kind of like an eggnog, except
it's made out of duck eggs and you had Oh
that's a different.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, all right. So my name is Brian Rose Fausto. Hey,
I'm that word, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Lisa, and thank you guys. We wanted to end this
season on the holiday spirits. We were heavy on the
spookies this season, but you know we're going to end
on Navidad. So I want to hear everyone's traditions and stories,
any funny stuff that went around the holidays, any food
you guys like to eat and traditions, all of that.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
All.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I the odd one out. I don't know what my
father did this holiday before he came to the United
States or before he married my mother. But this whole
celebrating on Christmas Eve thing Achabuena wasn't a thing for us.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We did a Christmas Day, Christmas Eve.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
We would go to Christmas parties.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And we get to open one gift with like family
members sometimes, but Christmas Day was where it was at.
But from my direct family, like first cousins, it was
Christmas Eve. Everyone shows up around nine.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
O'clock to go to night masks.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, if they dress up to the nines, they open
their presents, they sing you know those and they do
the whole thing. But I really wasn't a part of
that culture from what I hear.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Oh yeah, and to eat the leftover.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
For us, Christmas Day was when you had to go
down from Santa Claus the.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Night before and he came left.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Did you did everyone call Santa Claus up up in
the web.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
In Santa in my house?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, at some point it was Santa Claus. But but
but even then, Santa Clos wasn't like a big thing
in my in my.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Family, three kings was like the big thing when you
get your present.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
When we came to the United States, we definitely did
not your gifts like everything together, probably because of the
span right twelve days, not so much, not so much hues.
But I do remember when recent like immigrant family members
would come to the States, they would give us gifts
(04:37):
on Headagues and then we'd be like, why are we
getting it's so late.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Your godparents, I don't know if it's the same everywhere.
Your godparents are the ones who give you your gifts
on Three Kings Day, So you would get your Christmas
gifts from your parents and your family on Christmas Eve,
and then your god parents would all come and bring
you your gifts on three Kings.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
At least, that's I don't recognize that traditionally, And as.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
We talked about the last episode, if you're Panamanian, you're
gonna get them from the same.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Set of exactly all these guys. Oh my goodness. But
but yeah, no, we get We would get together have
dinner or still get together have dinner on no Chebueyna
and it was usually quite the quite a spread. So
(05:27):
first and foremost is the bernin if you're in the
United States, because we can't fit an entire lichong into
an American oven, but in the Dominican Republic, my family
does li chong like you know, a nice a nice
sized one.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
And so wait to clarify, you're like digging a hole
in the ground, putting a whole pig carcusson, and.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
So that is the way that they used to do it.
Now it's not a whole in the ground. Now it's
like mountain. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It is like mounted on
something that they can then you know, take places. But
it's the same concept. It is cooked for like between
six and eight hours, so you have to literally start
(06:15):
at like the crack of dawn on the twenty fourth,
but you.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Also probably season it the day before, right.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And season is yeah, the day before exactly. So that's
you know, number number one bernado or asao. In addition
to motro de guandoulis, I love motor deguandulas. That's when
you moto is when you cook the rice and the
beans together, and it's guandulas is pigeon pieas right is
(06:43):
what is what I believe it's called so i it
is My favorite type of rice is motro deguandolas. We
do and and sola le papa. But some people call
it in Solada Russa. It's like potatoes. It's like a
regular potato salad, but with like carrots. Sometimes you can
make it pink by adding beebes and so it makes
(07:06):
it this weird like peptoism. So I never wanted to
eat it as a kid. It's still not my favorite.
But we do, Papa. We do pastel in oha, which
are second essentially platamalis. Yeah, so literally like taking the plantain,
making it into a dough, then stuffing it with some
(07:27):
sort of meat or vegetables and then wrapping that up
in a platinum leaf, our plantain leaf. In addition to pastellon,
which is essentially plata no lasagna. And so of course
then there's also you know, doss or fritos, which are
fried plantains. Dominicans really like platanos, and into we haven't
(07:52):
even got oh my goodness, no, I haven't even gotten
into mopongo. But that's just for like a Saturday morning.
And if you can't, you know, have pork or don't
want to, you would have ornado or you know. And
then I think I mentioned that we also do the bonche,
which is an alcoholic eggnog made out of duck eggs,
(08:15):
which I think are a little bit more fatty because
it's a very sort of like rich consistency to the
to the And then one new tradition that I have
been integrating ever since marrying my partner is making sorrow
for Christmas, Yeah, which is traditionally I think the British
(08:36):
Caribbean drink, but we also like we also have it
in the Dominican Republic, but just not for Christmas, and
we just call it awah hamaika. But yeah, so that's
been fun to integrate.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
It is so delicious.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I'm sure speaking about Jamaica, I'm like dying.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
For jerk food right now.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh my god, jerk salmon sounds really good, but not
for not your point on.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Has to be after the fact.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, in Salvador, from what I've heard, from what my
dad likes to describe, it's the big thing is the
Nativity scenes are everywhere, like not even so much Christmas
trees are lights like that isn't really like I don't know,
at least from our town, who's got money for lights. Yeah,
you put up your little statue, but you invest in
your Nativity scene and you make sure that's sound about.
And the fireworks are apparently out of this world. And
(09:28):
the midnight Mass you have to go to midnight Mass.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Oh, and with the Nativity scene you do it so
it's delayed, so like Jesus doesn't appear, and then the
Kings don't appear until the Jebruary sixth.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Oh, there's no baby Jesus in there, just like on
the Easter where the sheet on the cross's way and
then it becomes purple, yes, hiding baby Jesus until someone
pops in and throws him in there on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Day, so someone pops them out. I am.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
So obviously being Jewish and celebrating, you know, weak secular Christmas.
I personally don't have too many traditions. I did ask
my dad the one thing that he remembers. Colombians have themales,
but it's different from Mexican Central American themales, so it's
(10:21):
it's still I believe, the corn meal and you know,
you fill it with a lot of you know, the
meat and all this different types and then you wrap
it in a banana. That's how we make it, which
is the big distinction. Yeah, but it's a corn yeah,
exactly on the corn husk it did when we were
(10:43):
talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Corn meal, but the leaf isn't like how you guys
would do past It would be the same thing, just
with cornmeal. That's how we do it.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It was very poignant because my mom pointed out and
I remembered like when we would celebrate when when when
we would go around like a round Christmas time, my
dad would always want to go to a Mexican restaurant
and he tamales and I was always confused because he
would always eat them and he would kind of be
really disappointed by them because it was Mexican demalies.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It wasn't that he grew up with.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
And I was like, why does he put himself through this?
He I know he hates these.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Why does he keep learning?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
And only just now is able to be like, oh,
he wants the food he had a Christmas.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You have to get those like scent, Like my dad
will get them from my tia and she will pack
them in a barrel and send them to the states.
Like you you only trust certain people to make your
tamao mmmmm.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah actually my yeah, Like we've we've even gone to
like Jackson Heights, and my dad doesn't.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Go to any pcific people to make them mm hmm too.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Miguel shout out to him that he makes them for
and one without culantro because my brother hates it, but
the rest of us don't mind. But he is the
only person in the States that my father trusts to
make her unmust We are going to Bantama and we
get it from Talla.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wow, that's cool, lro.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
It's like cilantro, what is it, the one that tastes
like soap to people?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
We say, okay, okay, my brother hates it. We call
celantro cilantrico. And then celantro is Culantro is the broad
leaved one, the long one, yeah, which I love.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We put that in so much. But my god, one
of my brothers hates it.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So I love it. I love it, and soup especially.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
So we always have to make certain foods if he's
coming home, we have to make food, make all of
our meals without it.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So in a lot of Latin American countries they have
a lot of colors out, parades and Nativity scenes are
really really big. So it's like a real celebration, like
a town, whole town, and like Holy Week almost Yeah, yeah,
I would say that all the way yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Oh my, my, my dad has a funny Santa Claus story.
So when he was growing up in nineteen fifties, Colombia,
like Santa Claus was on a thing. It was Ano Dios,
who who? Who brought your gifts on? On December twenty fifth,
little baby Jesus, presumably with a sack this this poor
laden newborn.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Before you continue, have you ever seen that TikTok with
the little boy and he's like, Bobby, can I touch
the Kukaracha? He's like, what ku karascha? Any points He's like,
that's not kara, that's a Josus. And how every time
I heard that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
You can see that one? Yes, all right, all right, continue,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
So what happened was, uh, you know, Barankia would have
these you know, modern stores, and one of them was
the Sears Roebucks store. It was like the one air
conditioned store. And they decided that one year, this is
like nineteen fifty seven ish, They're like, we're gonna bring
Santa Claus to Barankilla. So what they did was all
these kids went to the park working lot of the
(14:00):
Sears Roebox store down and out came this this helicopter
and inside was some gringo dressed up as Santa Claus,
you know, white Beard, red suit. The helicopter lands and
like you know, Santa Claus comes out. He's waving to
the crowd and it's like Santa Claus came to Batangia
(14:22):
for the very first time, and not on reindeer or
but helicopter. Yeah, okay, well reindeer that down that down south.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
They did have a hard time. I think you're right, Yeah,
you're absolutely correct. Oh my god, yeah that is hilarious. Okay, yeah,
we didn't learn about Santa Clos until you know, we
were here. And even then, I think I was like
in second grade and we were at our one of
our cousin's houses, you know, celebrating and about to open
(14:58):
the presence and so much just guy and I was
so confused because I was just like, we don't do something.
I was like, what are you guys talking about? So yeah,
so I like distinctly remember learning that then not yeah, not, yeah,
he didn't visit us before, so you just never believed,
(15:18):
or you just know, we just we just never believed. So,
you know, again, seeing Santa Claus on TV, I was
just like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
But then righton then my mom and it was like
being Jewish is like during Christmas okay, by the way.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And it's also because like my mom was never like,
oh yeah, Santa Claus. She was just like Santa Claus, no,
we buy your kids.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was actually just thinking about how like you were
just about to bring up Jewish Like I have to say,
I grew up in a very Jewish Italian neighborhood. And
let me tell you, Jewish kids kept the best secrets.
They didn't tell, they didn't know one of them were
now one of them snitched on Santa Claus.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah that is very nice. It was, that is very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It did not and then probably just sitting there like.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Okay, okay, yeah, because I don't think that was me
when when I was in third grade and people were
talking about Santa Claus and I was like Santa Claus,
like what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
The tiny Santa Claus atheists I.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Know sitting here and I'm like, man, these kids think
Santa Claus comes to their house.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What they.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Meo?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So you're all excited to celebrate with families or tonight
or we're getting ready for Jewish Christmas with the Chinese food.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
That's right, Chinese food, the movies. You gotta love it.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, well you know, I'll be on my way to
the Dominican Republic. Yea there or two, so.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So yeah, that'll be nice.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So you're going to the beach, well I'll be here.
I'll be there for almost two weeks, so yes, I
will be going to the beach at some point.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Currently, go on to the beaches being on Christmas and
if you're not at church, to be just pretty bigly
smell Salvador for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It makes age. Okay, that makes sense. And then in
South America, right, I can only imagine since it's summer
on December twenty fifth, right, so that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
So yeah, not in Spain, they're still in the northern semisphere.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Not a span yet. Now you probably have to pray
this plante of rosaries, which is what my mother now does.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
So even there they think there's like the concept of
Santa Claus isn't really the thing. It's that the three
kings bring the gifts, and they think that the three
kings come from like Saudi Arabia or something like. There
was a poll of like who do you where do
you think your gifts come from, and like everyone answered,
like Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Actually, so this is red.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
There's a reason for I forget what it is.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I don't so a friend of mine, I don't like.
We were we were talking somehow, like the Dutch concept
of center clause came up, and apparently the Dutch believed
that Santa Claus comes from Spain. And so for some reason,
I was at this Christmas party and I decided to
be a Spanish Santa Claus. So I came in and
(18:12):
I'm like, I am a Finter Claus, and I did
this whole thing. I am from Spain.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Because it's a weird story. Oh my goodness, goodness. Yeah
those Spaniards, Yeah they love their Yes.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
We begin this season with Spaniards and.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
My goodness, guys, that's the reason we have Catholicism.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
And then comes from the Spaniards. Santa lives in.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Iran, and Iran, I mean when did this?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Because they believe that the three Kings are bringing the gifts.
So it's like where Bethlehem was, that's where the gifts
are coming from. So I guess that's modern day Middle
East is where the gifts come from if you ask
like Spanish children.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Oh Santa Claus with that Persian blank I.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Know, right, yeah, right, goodness okay, I mean they didn't
work carrying gold and frankencense and mirror, so apparently it's
what you give to kings. So what was the third one?
Franken CeNSE, mer and gold. Oh there wasn't another one
that was gold, frankencense and r oh cool, okay, I
(19:40):
thought it was like frankensonson, mirror and something else frankincense.
There you smell good? Oh goodness, well merv foreshadowing wink wink,
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Please you a merry Christmas. I wants you a merry Christmas.
Shower less you a merry Christmas? From the bottom wow you.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well yeah, so my god, you guys. And with that,
it's a wrap.
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Brain rose here from the Rediscovering Latini Do podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Serving and supporting our Latin familias is important in rewarding work,
but the reality is not all service providers are the same.
While there are lots of amazing teams out there doing
great work in a way that meets familias where they are,
we know that there is still also lots of room
for growth out there, which is why we want to
tell you about LATINX Parenting and their professional partnerships. LATINX
(00:39):
Parenting is an organization based in Santana, California, dedicated to
bringing trauma informed, healing centered family education to the Latin
community in a way that is culturally relevant, accessible, and compassionate.
They have worked with schools, universities, and organizations around the country,
including MIT, Mihinte and the Institute of Child Technology, presenting workshops, trainings,
(01:04):
and series for professionals working with the Latin community. Whether
you're an educator, a therapist, a medical provider, social worker,
school administrator, or anyone serving Latin familias, LATINX Parenting has
something for you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Reach out to partnerships at Latinxparenting dot org to learn
how to bring LATINX parenting to your communidad.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Welcome back everyone. This is season five, episode fifteen of
Rediscovering Latini Dad. Thanks for joining us for a fantastic season,
and is now the season finale and we're airing this
two days early because tonight is not.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, we got through spooky season. Thank you, Thanksgiving,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, we talked, you know about Puerto Rico.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Are you going to have some coo?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Hell? Yeah, uh no, I'm going to have yese, which
is mattrine, which is kind of like an eggnog, except
it's made out of duck eggs and you had Oh
that's a different.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, all right. So my name is Brian Rose Fausto. Hey,
I'm that word, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Lisa, and thank you guys. We wanted to end this
season on the holiday spirits. We were heavy on the
spookies this season, but you know we're going to end
on Navidad. So I want to hear everyone's traditions and stories,
any funny stuff that went around the holidays, any food
you guys like to eat and traditions, all of that.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
All.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I the odd one out. I don't know what my
father did this holiday before he came to the United
States or before he married my mother. But this whole
celebrating on Christmas Eve thing Achabuena wasn't a thing for us.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We did a Christmas Day, Christmas Eve.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
We would go to Christmas parties.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And we get to open one gift with like family
members sometimes, but Christmas Day was where it was at.
But from my direct family, like first cousins, it was
Christmas Eve. Everyone shows up around nine.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
O'clock to go to night masks.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, if they dress up to the nines, they open
their presents, they sing you know those and they do
the whole thing. But I really wasn't a part of
that culture from what I hear.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Oh yeah, and to eat the leftover.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
For us, Christmas Day was when you had to go
down from Santa Claus the.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Night before and he came left.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Did you did everyone call Santa Claus up up in
the web.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
In Santa in my house?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, at some point it was Santa Claus. But but
but even then, Santa Clos wasn't like a big thing
in my in my.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Family, three kings was like the big thing when you
get your present.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
When we came to the United States, we definitely did
not your gifts like everything together, probably because of the
span right twelve days, not so much, not so much hues.
But I do remember when recent like immigrant family members
would come to the States, they would give us gifts
(04:37):
on Headagues and then we'd be like, why are we
getting it's so late.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Your godparents, I don't know if it's the same everywhere.
Your godparents are the ones who give you your gifts
on Three Kings Day, So you would get your Christmas
gifts from your parents and your family on Christmas Eve,
and then your god parents would all come and bring
you your gifts on three Kings.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
At least, that's I don't recognize that traditionally, And as.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
We talked about the last episode, if you're Panamanian, you're
gonna get them from the same.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Set of exactly all these guys. Oh my goodness. But
but yeah, no, we get We would get together have
dinner or still get together have dinner on no Chebueyna
and it was usually quite the quite a spread. So
(05:27):
first and foremost is the bernin if you're in the
United States, because we can't fit an entire lichong into
an American oven, but in the Dominican Republic, my family
does li chong like you know, a nice a nice
sized one.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
And so wait to clarify, you're like digging a hole
in the ground, putting a whole pig carcusson, and.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
So that is the way that they used to do it.
Now it's not a whole in the ground. Now it's
like mountain. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It is like mounted on
something that they can then you know, take places. But
it's the same concept. It is cooked for like between
six and eight hours, so you have to literally start
(06:15):
at like the crack of dawn on the twenty fourth,
but you.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Also probably season it the day before, right.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And season is yeah, the day before exactly. So that's
you know, number number one bernado or asao. In addition
to motro de guandoulis, I love motor deguandulas. That's when
you moto is when you cook the rice and the
beans together, and it's guandulas is pigeon pieas right is
(06:43):
what is what I believe it's called so i it
is My favorite type of rice is motro deguandolas. We
do and and sola le papa. But some people call
it in Solada Russa. It's like potatoes. It's like a
regular potato salad, but with like carrots. Sometimes you can
make it pink by adding beebes and so it makes
(07:06):
it this weird like peptoism. So I never wanted to
eat it as a kid. It's still not my favorite.
But we do, Papa. We do pastel in oha, which
are second essentially platamalis. Yeah, so literally like taking the plantain,
making it into a dough, then stuffing it with some
(07:27):
sort of meat or vegetables and then wrapping that up
in a platinum leaf, our plantain leaf. In addition to pastellon,
which is essentially plata no lasagna. And so of course
then there's also you know, doss or fritos, which are
fried plantains. Dominicans really like platanos, and into we haven't
(07:52):
even got oh my goodness, no, I haven't even gotten
into mopongo. But that's just for like a Saturday morning.
And if you can't, you know, have pork or don't
want to, you would have ornado or you know. And
then I think I mentioned that we also do the bonche,
which is an alcoholic eggnog made out of duck eggs,
(08:15):
which I think are a little bit more fatty because
it's a very sort of like rich consistency to the
to the And then one new tradition that I have
been integrating ever since marrying my partner is making sorrow
for Christmas, Yeah, which is traditionally I think the British
(08:36):
Caribbean drink, but we also like we also have it
in the Dominican Republic, but just not for Christmas, and
we just call it awah hamaika. But yeah, so that's
been fun to integrate.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
It is so delicious.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I'm sure speaking about Jamaica, I'm like dying.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
For jerk food right now.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh my god, jerk salmon sounds really good, but not
for not your point on.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Has to be after the fact.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, in Salvador, from what I've heard, from what my
dad likes to describe, it's the big thing is the
Nativity scenes are everywhere, like not even so much Christmas
trees are lights like that isn't really like I don't know,
at least from our town, who's got money for lights. Yeah,
you put up your little statue, but you invest in
your Nativity scene and you make sure that's sound about.
And the fireworks are apparently out of this world. And
(09:28):
the midnight Mass you have to go to midnight Mass.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Oh, and with the Nativity scene you do it so
it's delayed, so like Jesus doesn't appear, and then the
Kings don't appear until the Jebruary sixth.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Oh, there's no baby Jesus in there, just like on
the Easter where the sheet on the cross's way and
then it becomes purple, yes, hiding baby Jesus until someone
pops in and throws him in there on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Day, so someone pops them out. I am.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
So obviously being Jewish and celebrating, you know, weak secular Christmas.
I personally don't have too many traditions. I did ask
my dad the one thing that he remembers. Colombians have themales,
but it's different from Mexican Central American themales, so it's
(10:21):
it's still I believe, the corn meal and you know,
you fill it with a lot of you know, the
meat and all this different types and then you wrap
it in a banana. That's how we make it, which
is the big distinction. Yeah, but it's a corn yeah,
exactly on the corn husk it did when we were
(10:43):
talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Corn meal, but the leaf isn't like how you guys
would do past It would be the same thing, just
with cornmeal. That's how we do it.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It was very poignant because my mom pointed out and
I remembered like when we would celebrate when when when
we would go around like a round Christmas time, my
dad would always want to go to a Mexican restaurant
and he tamales and I was always confused because he
would always eat them and he would kind of be
really disappointed by them because it was Mexican demalies.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It wasn't that he grew up with.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
And I was like, why does he put himself through this?
He I know he hates these.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Why does he keep learning?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
And only just now is able to be like, oh,
he wants the food he had a Christmas.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You have to get those like scent, Like my dad
will get them from my tia and she will pack
them in a barrel and send them to the states.
Like you you only trust certain people to make your
tamao mmmmm.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah actually my yeah, Like we've we've even gone to
like Jackson Heights, and my dad doesn't.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Go to any pcific people to make them mm hmm too.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Miguel shout out to him that he makes them for
and one without culantro because my brother hates it, but
the rest of us don't mind. But he is the
only person in the States that my father trusts to
make her unmust We are going to Bantama and we
get it from Talla.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wow, that's cool, lro.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
It's like cilantro, what is it, the one that tastes
like soap to people?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
We say, okay, okay, my brother hates it. We call
celantro cilantrico. And then celantro is Culantro is the broad
leaved one, the long one, yeah, which I love.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We put that in so much. But my god, one
of my brothers hates it.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So I love it. I love it, and soup especially.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
So we always have to make certain foods if he's
coming home, we have to make food, make all of
our meals without it.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So in a lot of Latin American countries they have
a lot of colors out, parades and Nativity scenes are
really really big. So it's like a real celebration, like
a town, whole town, and like Holy Week almost Yeah, yeah,
I would say that all the way yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Oh my, my, my dad has a funny Santa Claus story.
So when he was growing up in nineteen fifties, Colombia,
like Santa Claus was on a thing. It was Ano Dios,
who who? Who brought your gifts on? On December twenty fifth,
little baby Jesus, presumably with a sack this this poor
laden newborn.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Before you continue, have you ever seen that TikTok with
the little boy and he's like, Bobby, can I touch
the Kukaracha? He's like, what ku karascha? Any points He's like,
that's not kara, that's a Josus. And how every time
I heard that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
You can see that one? Yes, all right, all right, continue,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
So what happened was, uh, you know, Barankia would have
these you know, modern stores, and one of them was
the Sears Roebucks store. It was like the one air
conditioned store. And they decided that one year, this is
like nineteen fifty seven ish, They're like, we're gonna bring
Santa Claus to Barankilla. So what they did was all
these kids went to the park working lot of the
(14:00):
Sears Roebox store down and out came this this helicopter
and inside was some gringo dressed up as Santa Claus,
you know, white Beard, red suit. The helicopter lands and
like you know, Santa Claus comes out. He's waving to
the crowd and it's like Santa Claus came to Batangia
(14:22):
for the very first time, and not on reindeer or
but helicopter. Yeah, okay, well reindeer that down that down south.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
They did have a hard time. I think you're right, Yeah,
you're absolutely correct. Oh my god, yeah that is hilarious. Okay, yeah,
we didn't learn about Santa Clos until you know, we
were here. And even then, I think I was like
in second grade and we were at our one of
our cousin's houses, you know, celebrating and about to open
(14:58):
the presence and so much just guy and I was
so confused because I was just like, we don't do something.
I was like, what are you guys talking about? So yeah,
so I like distinctly remember learning that then not yeah, not, yeah,
he didn't visit us before, so you just never believed,
(15:18):
or you just know, we just we just never believed. So,
you know, again, seeing Santa Claus on TV, I was
just like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
But then righton then my mom and it was like
being Jewish is like during Christmas okay, by the way.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And it's also because like my mom was never like,
oh yeah, Santa Claus. She was just like Santa Claus, no,
we buy your kids.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was actually just thinking about how like you were
just about to bring up Jewish Like I have to say,
I grew up in a very Jewish Italian neighborhood. And
let me tell you, Jewish kids kept the best secrets.
They didn't tell, they didn't know one of them were
now one of them snitched on Santa Claus.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah that is very nice. It was, that is very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It did not and then probably just sitting there like.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Okay, okay, yeah, because I don't think that was me
when when I was in third grade and people were
talking about Santa Claus and I was like Santa Claus,
like what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
The tiny Santa Claus atheists I.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Know sitting here and I'm like, man, these kids think
Santa Claus comes to their house.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What they.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Meo?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So you're all excited to celebrate with families or tonight
or we're getting ready for Jewish Christmas with the Chinese food.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
That's right, Chinese food, the movies. You gotta love it.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, well you know, I'll be on my way to
the Dominican Republic. Yea there or two, so.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So yeah, that'll be nice.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So you're going to the beach, well I'll be here.
I'll be there for almost two weeks, so yes, I
will be going to the beach at some point.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Currently, go on to the beaches being on Christmas and
if you're not at church, to be just pretty bigly
smell Salvador for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It makes age. Okay, that makes sense. And then in
South America, right, I can only imagine since it's summer
on December twenty fifth, right, so that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
So yeah, not in Spain, they're still in the northern semisphere.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Not a span yet. Now you probably have to pray
this plante of rosaries, which is what my mother now does.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
So even there they think there's like the concept of
Santa Claus isn't really the thing. It's that the three
kings bring the gifts, and they think that the three
kings come from like Saudi Arabia or something like. There
was a poll of like who do you where do
you think your gifts come from, and like everyone answered,
like Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Actually, so this is red.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
There's a reason for I forget what it is.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I don't so a friend of mine, I don't like.
We were we were talking somehow, like the Dutch concept
of center clause came up, and apparently the Dutch believed
that Santa Claus comes from Spain. And so for some reason,
I was at this Christmas party and I decided to
be a Spanish Santa Claus. So I came in and
(18:12):
I'm like, I am a Finter Claus, and I did
this whole thing. I am from Spain.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Because it's a weird story. Oh my goodness, goodness. Yeah
those Spaniards, Yeah they love their Yes.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
We begin this season with Spaniards and.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
My goodness, guys, that's the reason we have Catholicism.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
And then comes from the Spaniards. Santa lives in.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Iran, and Iran, I mean when did this?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Because they believe that the three Kings are bringing the gifts.
So it's like where Bethlehem was, that's where the gifts
are coming from. So I guess that's modern day Middle
East is where the gifts come from if you ask
like Spanish children.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Oh Santa Claus with that Persian blank I.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Know, right, yeah, right, goodness okay, I mean they didn't
work carrying gold and frankencense and mirror, so apparently it's
what you give to kings. So what was the third one?
Franken CeNSE, mer and gold. Oh there wasn't another one
that was gold, frankencense and r oh cool, okay, I
(19:40):
thought it was like frankensonson, mirror and something else frankincense.
There you smell good? Oh goodness, well merv foreshadowing wink wink,
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Please you a merry Christmas. I wants you a merry Christmas.
Shower less you a merry Christmas? From the bottom wow you.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well yeah, so my god, you guys. And with that,
it's a wrap.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
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Speaker 3 (21:22):
And if you think we were done talking about Spain,
you are exceactly you are misinformed, as we need to
discuss the Cannery Islands and Islam and Spain Yes, citizenship
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