Rediscovering Latinidad Season 6 Episode 8 Scattegories: ChatGPT nos pregunta

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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Woooooo, Welcome back to Rediscovering Latini Dodd. This is season six,
episode eight, and I needed some inspiration about what we
were going to talk about, so I asked chat GPT
and so this is gonna be a little game here.
Let's first let's introduce ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm Edward, I'm Briar Rose, I'm j Lisa, and I'm
fostal all right, So yes, we needed some inspiration, and
so I asked chat GPT, hey, what are some good
questions that could start a genealogy conversation?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So every question you're going to hear now chat GPT
spit out. So the future of podcasting is now, Lord
help us man.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
We could really go down the rabbit hole all of these,
but every single one, right, I will kick out for it.
So how DNA testing reunited me with an unknown relative?
I love this story. I was on ancestry DNA and
I did not know much about my mother's paternal side,

(02:07):
so I knew that they had some roots in Ireland,
didn't know much more about them. My mother's father left
when she was five, never saw him again. He died
in nineteen eighty nine. I just was like, I don't
know what's going to happen here. I kind of know
some people kind of made a tree, YadA YadA. So
there was this one girl and she messaged me and
she says we're linked. So when you get a match,

(02:28):
I don't know about you guys, but when you get
a match, the first thing I do is look at
the other matches, like just to try to see Yeah,
because not everyone who does the DNA testing is automatically
making a tree right away. So I was like, Okay,
her tree's kind of small. I don't really recognize whatever
people are on there. So she doesn't know much about
her background. Her dad really wasn't in the picture too much.

(02:51):
Now it's a different story, but she lived with her mom.
I was like, huh huh. And she's three years younger
than me, and she was a mom. She is a
mom little boy. She's married at the time, and she
was her husband was stationed in England. But she's from Florida,
And I was like, I don't know any DNA on
that side of the family from Florida. Like I'm just like,

(03:14):
but she looked, have you ever seen a picture of
somebody and you're like, I I see my family, like
I see you, like I see my family in you,
And yet it's bothering me that I can't place you.
But we got along, so we were messaging back and forth.
We started like sharing stuff about our lives, YadA, YadA.
So we became like sort of like internet friends that

(03:36):
are definitely DNA related. We couldn't figure out how, So
we were talking for a couple of months and then
one day she said, oh, I'm heading to Long Island.
I'm flying to Long Island to meet my family bing mingming,
that's where my family's from. And she's like, I was like,
your your family's from Long Island. She's like, yeah, my
dad's family's all on Long Island. Okay, so it's probably
through the dad, not sure, but probably. I look at

(04:00):
her DNA mashes like earlier when I first encountered her,
and she was linked to my mother, her full brother,
not my mother's half sister, through her mother, so it
is not through my maternal grandmother. It had to be
through my maternal grandfather who left the picture. So it's like, Okay,

(04:20):
my nana's side of the family is out because my aunt,
my mom's a half sister, is not related to this girl. Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
So we're talking and I said, oh, maybe maybe we'll
get together when you're here, and she just didn't have
enough time because she had family, and that's fine. But
as she was out there, she was talking to family
saying like, I'm talking to this girl on ancestry DNA,
and we think we're related, we don't know how. And
I started during the course of talking to her, I
threw in some family names. So she took these names

(04:50):
to these family members and they were like wait wait wait, wait,
wait wait wait. And they knew. They knew who my
grandfather was and his my grandma, Nana and the three kids.
They knew the whole story about how he left. He
was an alcoholic and left. And I figured out that
my great grandmother, the Irish one, is Britney's great great grandmother.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh oh oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
We figured out the link right there. And I can't
tell you that when we figured out that link, after
having already been growing closer, it was like it was
really nice, but it was like heavy. I was like, wow, okay,
I got the link. This is nice, but wow I
pieced it together. So being like young, I was twenty eight,
around twenty eight and did my husband. I were married,

(05:38):
we didn't have a child yet. You can kind of
do that whole traveling thing and do those adventures. And
she goes, you know, you're always welcome to come out
to England and come see us, and I was like, sure,
I will. So my husband, I don't think he was
able to make Yeah, he was definitely not able to
make the trip. So I booked my trip right to
Gatwick Airport, which is the other airport in London that

(06:00):
no one talks about because everyone knows Hethro no one
knows Gatwick. So and I I and she was excited.
She was making all these plans and when I saw
her at the airport, I was like, I swear it
was like I just saw my family, like I just
see her. So we spent this wonderful week together and
we were talking about things and like family, were exploring Buris,

(06:22):
Saint Edmunds and the countryside. And she lived in the
same area as my cousin will who is my mother's
brother's son, full brother's son. He was also stationed in
the same place as her husband. So we all got
together on the base like by not base, but like

(06:43):
the where they live, and we went out. We went
to London. We went to that big the big un again,
that that Ferris feel thing there, that's all there. We
went to Soho in London. We went and did all
these things. He raced it down the country east side
on in a car that came from Japan, where he
was last deployed to that the car the also Japan

(07:06):
already has cars with the steering whel on the other side,
just like England. So it was a real easy adjustment
for him, and we just had the time of our lives.
And she came to visit me in the States like
two months later, and she came six months after that.
I haven't spoken to her in a bit, which is
very sad. But she came to New York, she met
my mom, she met my family, and it was really

(07:29):
one of the most heartwarming things. And I have to say, like,
I think that was one of the biggest and bravest
leaps of faith I did, was going to England to me.
So that is my that is my search for well,
search for long less relative and what I found. But
really the DNA testing reunited me with an ununrelative. I

(07:49):
found a cousin. M that's right.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
So yeah, what is that blood blood? Yeah, blood calls.
I have, I guess a sort of similar situation. So
many many years ago, I started working at an independent
school and I met this other lady who's there, who's Dominican.
So we were like, oh my god, this is so great.

(08:13):
Look at us. We're both Dominican together. And so when
not a coincidence? Right, And so then you know, we're
just kind of like, Okay, where's your family from. Where's
your family from? So then we realized that both of
our families are from Bonao, which is a small city
in the center of the country, and there are like
one hundred thousand people in that city, right, so pretty

(08:35):
much if your family has been in that area for
a while, you're probably related. So we were just kind
of like, oh, we're cousins, we're prettymos and so we
would just call each other pretty moos. So fast forward
ten years and I had done my twenty three and
me and I knew her, so her son would He
was a teen at the time that we first met,

(08:57):
so he was twenty I guess when he did the
DNA test. So I knew his name, and so he
popped up on my mattress and so I was kind
of like, oh, this is interesting. So I click on
his name. I'm like, okay, well, let me actually ask
this person if he is the son of you know
who I'm thinking about. And so I message him. He
messages back and lo and behold it is her son.
So I'm literally just kind of like, holy crikey, you guys,

(09:19):
we are actually cousins, and so that is a cousin
who I met, who I never you know, we never knew.
But it like like you were saying by her right,
Like one of the first things that I noticed about
her when she said when she was from w Now,
it was just like, you look like you could be
related to my mother, Like you look like you come
from them, and lo and behold she did. And so
that is how we confirmed our our relationship there and

(09:42):
then we are still friends to this day. That's so nice.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, I am, I'm going to be looking at this. Well,
someone else speaks. But when I took pictures of her
and I back in the day, we look related from
like the nose down, like the mouth and the chin
are just like I don't know, it's weird that you
can see that. Usually with eyes are my first thing.
But I was like, no, no, no, we have the
same lower part of the mouth.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
So yeah, anyway, Edward, obviously we're here because right like
the elephant in the room, Yes, of the two of
us are here. It's because finding each other through long
lost DNA. But one of the other questions that I
will spill some ancestralty family secrets revealed through genealogy research.

(10:30):
My great grandmother, no, my great great grandmother. The story
was that she was hit by a train, and every
time I would ask questions about her, like oh, what
happened to her? Like, oh, no, So there was a
great aunt who was godmother to so many people on
my mom's side of the family. I'm like, why was
she everyone's godmother?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Because she she raised Awlita, and she raised this one
and she's just the one who took care of everyone.
I'm like, oh, so she was raised by her aunt. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
your great grandmother, Agustina Maggie. I don't know why she
was called Maggie. Her name was Augustine. You know, Maggie
was raised by her aunt, and all of the siblings
were raised by the aunt, and she was godmother to
my grandmother. She was godmother to my grandmother's siblings, like

(11:09):
all like multiple generations. Tia Elena was everyone's godmother. And
I'm like, so what happened to grandma's mom? Because my
grandmother was named after her two grandparents, her maternal grandmother
and her paternal grandmother. She's carrying this woman's name though,
Oh did she die before she was born. No, no,
we don't know she was here by a train. Come
to find out digging around that she was not here

(11:29):
by a train. She was the village floozy. She kind
of like lived on the other side of town and
she would just kind of show up every now and
then and bring tia Elena a new child to raise,
like here you go, and she would disappear for a
few more years, come back, here's a new one. Hence

(11:51):
why tia Elena was everyone's godmother because children would just
kind of get dropped on her doorstep and I'm like,
what happened to grandma? Grandma was hit by a train?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
She was not.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
She was just over there up to whatever she was doing,
and all of the children would just And that's why
she was godmother to like a dozen people on that
side of the family. So there was some that's there
was some family this review.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
So it it feels like my grandfather because I feel
like he did that with his own kids, like he
just had one every couple of years.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
They would just pop up, just two in the same year. Yes,
oh yeah, Grandma Teresa was not hit by a train.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Well, that was our big stick as long as long
as we're spilling tea that this is the Jewish side,
not not the Latin American side. But I had a
similar So, who's this My great grandma's uncle, Joe, Joe Davis,
who was out in the wild West. You start out
as a pedlar and then he had like a clothing shop.
This was you know, back literal wild West days and

(12:55):
just this, you know this This past year twenty twenty four,
I was digging around and I think I found that
he was married three times in one year, because oh,
it's him. He's in this little boom town called Cripple Creek, Colorado,
where there was a gold rush going on. This is
eighteen ninety six, eha. And one of these marriage, like

(13:16):
one is a confirmed cousin, so I know that that
was definitely one marriage. Then there's another marriage listed this
Colorado newspaper archive which is online, and they mentioned a
guy named Joe Davis who had a Jewish wedding in
Cripple Creek, Colorado a few months before the other wife.
So I'm like, this is probably him. And then and

(13:39):
then there was another wedding announced about Joe Davis of
Cripple Creek, Colorado getting married and I'm like, oh god,
this is wife number three and like six months what
and the other two wives I haven't found any mention
of them yet, so it's like, what the hell happened?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, I mean, but also and not to I, and
this is you're telling me these are small areas. I
mean obviously eighteen ninety six everything. Yeah, And I'm.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Like, Joe Davis is pretty I don't know, I had
a Jewish wedding, Like yeah, never mind, yeah, there's that.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Was the key. Definitely, definitely right, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
So he signed three katubas in one year.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
No one was the one that's confirmed cousins was with
the gentile woman, so that definitely no katuba's there. But
the Jewish marriage, though, it was interesting, like I think,
if I remember correctly, they brought a rabbi from Saint Paul,
Minnesota to Colorado. Yeah, could that way? Yeah, And so

(14:41):
like this was a really big deal, and if I
remember correctly, I think like the newspaper kind of ed
editorialized and they were like, oh, we wish them wonderful future.
And meanwhile he got married like a few months later,
so it's no weeks what happened?

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Did they die?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I was a say, what do you think happened there?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Like a flu or a demo?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Talk a little bit to drop some more tea about Jodaevis.
Here we go. We're getting a little deeper here. So
a few years before that, he was in Washington State,
and I'm pretty sure I found him because you know
these everywhere, these these peddlers, Yeah, we're going from town
to town and dragging their business with them. He also
ran pawn shops, which you know, great way to get

(15:27):
your stolen goods off your hands and to other people.
So briefly his I found him in newspaper mentions is
being involved with this prostitution ring and he and he was.
He accused a guy of grooming a woman to become
a prostitute. The guy was accused then counter accused him

(15:50):
of wanting the woman to be his wife, and that
he had been already married twice before. And this is
a long story, but I basically found that he was, yes, married,
married twice before. He was probably trying to get this
woman to be you know, wife number three. And then
and then these people who were accused of prostitution actually
were prostitutes, and they were accused of being prostituted. It

(16:11):
was like a whole family. It was like two brothers
and they had wives who were prostitutes, and they were
just like a big prostitution family. And they would and
they were in Seattle and they would run like flower
shops and vegetable stands, and then it was like and
in the back room us a visit. That was a
wild story. I was gonna say, a veritable over here. Yeah,

(16:34):
that's a great show. That stuff. Prostitution, by the way,
was not brought up by chat GPT that it is
set is human intervention.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Okay, this is the I'm going to pass this one around.
This is my cousin that I met her, and I think.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
The caption on that picture was, yeah, no, I definitely
see a resemblance, right yeah, from your nose is yeah,
definitely the same nose for sure.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
And like chin mouth like it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh yeah, absolutely great. Yes, just below the eyes yeah yeah,
but didn't even sort of like the cheek, like the
way the smile. Yeah, it's fascinating.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
And my caption, yeah, you can see it. And I
saw her and I was like, this is family, Like
I know it, I got it. She's cool.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's really beautiful.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
So, Brittany, if you are listening to this, come talk
to us.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
We have time for one more quick. We have one
part if anybody wants to.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I think this is going to have to be a
season thing though, because yeah, yeah, this.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Is kind of fun. Maybe we can get one of
those like wheels.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yes, okay, because I usually need to be scripted or else.
I really like I repeat myself and I kind of
like get anxious in my own head. But this has
been fun.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, I like it, like this one.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Okay, anybody famous? I got no one famous?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, Briar dropped last season about your who is it
the president of Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I thought you meant like Selena Gomez famous, historical famous. Yes,
my best piece of Welo was the first president of
Central America who freedom Savador from Spain the goat?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah that and what's what's his name?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Grandpa?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
I didn't you guys call him?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I last name was? Let me just I think it's
Manuel Manuel. Yeah, we're right right out. You know what's funny.
I actually send a picture of him to one of
my cousins. She's like, he's a distinguished looking man. I'm
like he he was, I mean, at least in the painting,
But yeah, that was mine. What about you guys, Yes, Manuel, Jose.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
Few mayors, but nobody famous. I'm trying to think there
was a couple of judges, like locally famous, but nobody
recognizable that anyone outside the family would really know.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Go no, I know. So I think we were a
long line of yes, cousins and farmers. So on my
white Columbian grandfather's side, I was able to find out
about these you know, awful landowners who you know, concuistador types.
But what happened was I trace it back to one

(19:17):
name and I put in Google Books, and then it
turns out it linked to this digitized Google books. And actually,
which episode are we going to talk about Google?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
And that is episode twelve.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
That is episode twelve, so we're going to talk all
about free resources.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
But it was a.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Book written in the seventeenth century. This local pre slash
snob in Bogota wanted to preserve for all eternity how
people were descended from the conquistadores. So supposedly one of
the various awful conquistadores that I can trace back to
married an Inca woman and brought her up from Peru

(19:58):
and brought her to Bogota, and near Bogata they settled
and supposedly she was the niece of the Inca, so
the Incan emperor. So I don't know this is I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Go with it? Yeah right, why not go with it?

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Why not? It definitely is the ultimate My grandma was
a Cherokee princess. Story. But there this story, this story
has been told for at least like three hundred plus years.
I'm like, Okay, if it's this sould of a tradition,
sure there's probably it was.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, if you don't find anything that like fully
debunks it, then go with it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's what is cool, like, regardless of whether they were
actually of royal blood or not. Apparently she had a
brother who initially fought the Spanish when when they invaded Peru,
and then once he realized the Spanish were winning, he
converted to Christianity, fought on the Spanish side, and then
supposedly lived to like one hundred and fifteen or something

(20:56):
like just live this whole life from you know, really
in times he lived through the conquest and then he
lived you know, through the post.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Can you're sure he's right?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Hello? Yeah, and both of them there their last name
was Enga i n g A, which is the colonial
spelling of inca. So who knows, but fascinating story.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
So yeah, I think this has been really fun. We're
definitely gonna have to bring this on for next episode.
So it's been fun.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
In case we find any other new yeah, we'll find someone.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
More exactly later on continue the search. So I think
just a little housekeeping, yes.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
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Speaker 4 (22:35):
That's gonna be so much fun.

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