October 27, 2024 • 50 mins
Brendan discussed his honeymoon tribulations and Alex experiences a dream-come-true on this quick episode of Refined 90’s Cinema.
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Recording.
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We should do a clap.
Okay.
So I'm supposed to be recording you but Ihave to check all the chords because I did
some moving around and I think I unpluggedone of the chords.
Anyway.
Okay, so... Three, two, one, clap.
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All righty.
For some reason I always clap and then Ihear your clap come through afterwards.
Yeah, it's the opposite for me.
It's because there's like a delay on bothsides.
It's because we're far away.
Far away, through the internet,above the hill and over the trees.
So far away, la la la la.
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Do you like my song?
I do.
I feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Well, you're fucking better.
I wrote it for you.
Thank you.
I've never felt more alive.
Turned on.
Bonerific.
Oof.
Anyway, hello.
Hello, everybody.
Hello, internet.
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Let's move away from the bonerificsituation.
Yes.
Let's be not that.
Well, we have to always be bonerific,dude.
It's true.
And I mean, usually we are in our way ofbeing.
And of having.
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Having and being.
Being and having.
That's the way.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I like it.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I like it.
Anyway, today is the first time we'vegotten on in a while.
Right, Brandon?
This is true.
We've been busy, and I went on an extendedhoneymoon.
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And now I will tell you the excitingconclusion.
Okay.
Tell us your story.
Okay.
So...
Sigh.
My wife and I...
...land in Portugal.
And we are... so we're in Lisbon.
We're supposed to spend the night inLisbon, and then fly the next morning to
the Azores, to an island where a friend ofmine has a home.
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And so his family had invited us to staythere for three or four days, and that was
the end of our three weeks of honeymoon.
So we're supposed to fly there,stay there for a few days, and then fly
home to Canada.
Okay.
So we get an Uber to take us from ourhotel to the airport.
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And all over the airport, there's signsthat say, like, Use Uber.
It's good.
You get a discount.
Blah, blah, blah.
Whatever it says.
And...
My wife gets in the back seat,and I get in the front seat and push the
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seat back, because...
And all the way up into that point,I'd mostly been getting in the back,
because it made me feel fancy,right?
Like, you're both sitting in the back,and there's a driver, and it makes you
feel fancy.
Right.
But I sit in the front, because we're,like, on a busy street, and the driver's
side, there's a bunch of traffic.
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So I'm like, well, I'll just get in thepassenger side to, like, let us get there
faster.
We weren't late or anything.
We just...
I just thought we'd get there faster.
But the seat was pushed all the wayforward, so I pushed the seat back,
and, like, Michelle's in the back,like, putting her stuff down, and we get
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our suitcases in the car, and we're goingto the airport.
And we, like, the parking lot at theairport was super busy, so we're,
like, trying to navigate everything,get our bags out, everything else.
We roll up to the gate to check our bagsin, and we're, like, a few hours before
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the flight.
So we're, like, good to go and everything.
And Michelle reaches down to grab herpassport, and she's like, where's my
purse?
And I'm like...
Oh, no.
What do you...
What do you mean?
Like, you had it on you, like,until we got to the car.
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She's like, yes.
And I was like, I think you left.
I think you left it in the Uber.
And we were, like, two or three minutesfrom having seen the car.
And the airport was really busy.
So I'm thinking, like, maybe the driverhasn't even left the parking lot.
Because he had told us as we were drivingin, like, he gets backed up, he gets
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really busy, sometimes he has to sit intraffic.
So I keep all of our luggage.
She runs out to the parking lot to see ifshe can find this guy.
Okay.
She remembered, like, half of his licenseplate and the type of car that it was.
So she runs out there, and she's,like, looking, not finding anything.
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Oh, dude, I'd be freaking out.
So, well, like, all of her ID was in herpurse.
Yeah.
Some of our money, like, 50 bucks was inher purse.
Everything else was in our two backpacks.
And we had those on us.
So, yeah.
We didn't have a lot of cash, but,like, I had all my ID and everything.
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And my wallet, she didn't have her purse.
So, we go into, we sit down at a table,we go into the Uber app, we tell the
ticketing agents, she's lost her purse,we're gonna, like, get her a passport,
we're gonna figure out something.
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In the meantime, they're like,okay, we'll mark it down, so, like,
we're not...
We're not calling you to get on theflight.
You're not checked in.
If you find it, come back and we'll try toput you on the flight or the one that's
later this afternoon.
So, we're like, okay.
So, we sit down and she's, obviously,she's upset.
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She thinks she's, like, ruined everything.
And I'm like, no, like, we're gonna worktogether.
We're gonna figure this out.
Like, so, I have her, like, tell me a listof everything she had in her purse just to
keep her mind, like, working.
She calls Uber, she talks to the guy,tells him, like, he's like, oh,
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you must have, like, dropped it,it's not here.
And she's like, it's a black purse,it was under the seat, my husband pushed
the seat back, double plus on our side,we had an air tag in her purse.
And we're seeing the air tag move around.
Okay.
Okay.
We know that the purse...
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The purse is, like, in a car.
And it's near the airport, because we cansee it moving.
Oh, my God, that's so good that you hadthe air tag in there.
So, like, thank God.
So, she says to him, like, no,we can see it, it's moving with you.
Like, we know you're on the road to theairport, like, leaving the airport.
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Could you please, like, we'll give you acash reward.
Could you do anything?
Could you please come back?
Blah, blah, blah.
He says no.
And then, because...
So, the way it works is you have tocontact the driver through the app.
You can't contact them directly.
Right.
Why would he say no, though?
That's so stupid.
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So, he then blocks us in the app frommaking any more phone calls.
Wow.
He says that we're harassing him.
Holy crap, that's ridiculous.
So, Michelle is freaking out.
So, we contact, like, Uber customersupport, who we're already talking to.
They tell us they can't do anything within24 hours.
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And that the driver has, like,we're not allowed to contact him again for
24 hours.
Right.
So, I'm like, if he's not giving it back,maybe, like, he's being honest.
Maybe he doesn't see it.
Maybe, like, he'll get to the end of hisroute.
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And then he'll be like, oh, like,it's here.
Like, I should call that woman back.
Yeah.
Right?
Or maybe he's just going to steal itbecause he thinks he can, like,
take our $50 and Michelle's fake jewelry.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
There wasn't much in it.
Like, her credit cards were the mostvaluable thing.
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So, we're like, well, like, we can't geton the plane because she doesn't have a...
She doesn't have a passport.
She doesn't have any ID.
So, we have to, like, if we can't get thepurse back, we have to go to the Canadian
consulate in Lisbon and get her anotherpassport.
So, there's a police station in theairport.
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One of the...
There's a police officer outside thattells us, like, go.
There's, like, a station.
Maybe they can help you.
So, we go.
They're like, we can't help you.
Like, it's...
We're showing him on the map.
We're, like, we can see him.
His name's Carlos.
This is the kind of car he has.
This is his license plate.
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He's like, we can't help you.
It's between you and Uber.
Like, there's 7 million people in thiscity.
What do you want us to do?
Holy cow.
So, we're like, okay, we'll go to theCanadian consulate because we're like,
what else can we do?
So, we take, like, a real taxi from theairport to the consulate.
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The taxi driver is like, never take ataxi.
Uber.
It's full of, like, immigrants.
They're, like, robbers.
They're bad.
They were like, take you.
He kept saying, like, no good.
Only take taxi.
Only taxi.
And so, we're like, yeah, we're nevertaking an Uber again, obviously.
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And he was explaining to us, as he's,like, speeding to the consulate,
because Michelle's crying.
He feels so bad.
He is telling us, like, So, like,if you want to be a taxi driver,
it's, like, a special license.
It's, like, a multi-month driver's coursethat you have to take.
Yeah.
It's, like, all these written tests.
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And you get, like, a special license atthe end.
But what Uber drivers are doing is,a lot of times, one person will take the
course and get, it's, like, a one- or two-day course in Portugal.
They'll get the special license.
And then, like...
Three or four people will share the carand the license.
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Because they look alike.
Right.
So, like, someone will, like, own the car.
And then someone finds these, like,illegal workers to, like, work in the same
Uber account.
That's so fucked.
Right?
So, we get to the consulate.
And they're, like...
The police were not helpful.
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But they were super helpful.
They were, like, okay.
So, the cops won't help you.
But, like, we're gonna get in touch with,like, the Canadian government and the
diplomat.
The woman was, like, she was, like,honestly, we can't do anything for at
least 72 hours.
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And especially with the time change.
Because at this point, it's, like,2 a.m.
in Canada.
She's, like, we can't do anything untiltomorrow morning.
Because...
It's, like, it's already too late in thenight.
And we can't get a hold of anyone until atleast tomorrow.
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So, she's, like, we can definitely get youa passport.
Like, you're gonna have to at least spendthree days in Lisbon until we can get you
a passport.
And they, like, they made sure,like, I still had my credit card.
So, like, we could get money if we neededit.
We still had a little bit of cash.
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So, we were okay there.
They gave us all the forms.
They said, like, go get your passportpictures.
Here's, like, a place to go.
Here's where you can get train passes.
Do you have a place to stay for yourhotel?
They took all our information so that theycould help us.
And Michelle, luckily, she had had herphone on her.
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And when we landed in France, we had gother, like, a local, like, an EU SIM card.
Right.
So, she had a local phone number that theycould call if anything came up.
So, they gave us the paperwork.
We leave.
We go to where it's like a metro station,like a subway station, where they have the
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passport, the photo place.
So, we go get our pictures.
We start filling out the forms.
They made an appointment for us to comeback the next day.
Okay.
And, like, do the passport if we couldn'tfind it or get it back from the Uber
driver.
Right.
So, we start filling out the forms.
We do that.
I book us.
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I get us bus passes and subway passes forthe next few days.
We book the same hotel for three nights sothat we have a place to stay.
Because we can't go anywhere untilMichelle has a passport, right?
We, like, eventually...
We go back to the hotel, Michelle,like, calls her parents, uh, cancels her
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credit cards, puts a hold on her debitcard, like, makes sure, like, everything
gets, like, said as lost or stolen.
The only thing we didn't do is mark herpassport stolen.
Because the, the consul, the lady at theconsulate said, if we report it as stolen,
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it's now invalid.
So, if, like, if you're able to get itback...
Before tomorrow...
Right, because you need it still,so you can't do that.
So, she, she, like, we needed the numberto, like, book a hotel.
Oh, man.
So, luckily, the hotel we stayed at thenight before had it on file.
And they were like, it's fine,like, we'll, we'll, like, we'll still
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honor it.
And we'll just put it on your husband'sname.
Like, so that was fine.
So, she's like...
Once you get it back, I want you to beable to use it, like, like, let's wait
till tomorrow, kind of thing.
And honestly, she was just trying to,like, calm Michelle down, which was really
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nice and helpful.
So, she was like, this happens all thetime, like, we'll make sure you get home.
Like, that's not a concern.
Don't worry about that.
So, it's, like, six o'clock at night.
Michelle's like, the hair tag,she, we've been tracking it on her phones
all day.
She's like, it stopped moving,hasn't moved since 3.30.
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I think, like, it's there, my purse isthere.
So, I'm like, all right.
If, like, I look up the bus schedule inGoogle Maps.
If you want to go, it's a 20-minute busride.
If we go now, we can get there,have 45 minutes to look, and still have
enough time to get the last bus back toour hotel for the night.
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She's like, I want to go, I want to go.
Right.
So, we take a bus.
We're literally, like, we're going out ofthe city.
People are looking at us like,like, what are you doing?
Why is she crying?
Like, it was, it was emotional.
Well, yeah, because no one else obviouslyunderstands what's going on.
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Right.
And you guys are like, are we going tohave to, like, get stuck here?
We don't speak Portuguese.
We're like, anyway.
So, we...
We go to where it is.
There's a highway, and then a hill up,and then a little street, and some,
like, businesses.
But it's, like, very industrial.
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There's, like, old, like, you could tell,like, they used to be factories,
but they're closed down.
Right.
So, we go to this, like, dirt parking lot,and there's just, like, brush everywhere.
And we're walking up and down with ourphones, like, trying to, like,
find the airtight.
And every once in a while, it's,like, the object is near you, or,
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like, faint signal on our phones.
So, like, walking around, we're like,it's got to be here.
And in my head, I'm, like, trying to holdout hope for Michelle's sake, but I'm,
like, the guy, like, threw the airtightout of his car and, like, took the purse.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If he wanted the purse, and he thought itwas valuable.
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That's what he took.
So, there's this...
That's what logic would dictate,anyway.
And I'm always, like, thinking the worst-case scenario, right?
So, there's this store across the street.
It's, like, a hardware store.
They sell, like, lights and, like,stuff to put lights in your house.
And we go in, and there's a woman at thecounter.
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And Michelle's, like, do you speakEnglish?
And she's, like, a little.
And Michelle starts telling the story,and she's, like, sorry, no.
Like...
I don't speak English.
But Michelle put, like, explained what hadhappened to us on her phone, translated
it, and wrote it in the Notes app on herphone.
So, she gives her the Notes app.
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The woman reads it, and she's,like, oh.
She goes and gets her husband.
Gets her husband to read it, and is,like, okay.
So, he, like, goes into the parking lot,and he's, like, this is our car.
This is the neighbor's car who livesupstairs.
And there's, like, another, like,car that clearly was on fire at one point
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at the side of the parking lot,like, busted out windows, everything.
He's, like, there was another car hereearlier, but we didn't know whose it was.
So, we're, like, looking, and he's,like, our cars have been here all day.
They're locked up.
Like, we haven't seen anybody suspicious.
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But, like, we'll help you look for thepurse.
So, he helps us look.
Look, we're not finding anything.
He's, like, there's a police station downthe road.
Maybe they can help us.
Or, like, at least you could report it asmissing.
So, we start walking, and his wife comesout, and she's, like, no, no, no.
Like, yelling at her husband, like,you drive them.
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So, he drives us down to the policestation in his car.
Michelle's so paranoid.
She's, like, what if he stole the purse?
And he's now, like...
Gonna kill us.
I'm, like, Michelle, like, calm down.
Jesus.
This is such an endeavor that you guyswent through.
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It's, like, 6.30 at night at this point.
We had gotten to the airport at 11.
So, this started at, like, 11.30.
It's now 6 o'clock in the evening.
We're still looking for this purse.
The police are, like, alright.
Like, the best we can tell you is keeplooking.
If you can't find it, like, here's theaddress and the location of the
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headquarters.
Go there and, like, do a formal report.
And at least, like, you'll have it onpaper.
But, like, that's the best we can do foryou right now.
So, we go back to this side of the highwayand we're, like, total crime scene
investigator mode.
Like, CSI.
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I'm, like, alright.
If he was driving a car and the car wasgoing 50 kilometers, an hour, he was,
like, an able-bodied man, but he threw itout at the passenger side.
Like, you couldn't have thrown it that farif he threw your purse.
How many, like, feet?
How many, like, you know, how many metersdo you think it could have gotten?
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And we're, like, walking through thebrush.
And at this point, the husband,the store owner, is helping us look.
And he is, like, I don't know,like, he's looking in the parking lot.
We're looking further down the road wherethe highway is.
He starts whistling.
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And there's something up in his hand.
Like, for, like, like, motioning for us tocome to the parking lot, back to where
he's standing.
Michelle is, like, crying.
She's, like, is that my purse?
Is that my purse?
Sprinting up this hill.
We get, we would later learn his name wasPaul.
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Paul has her purse in his hand.
He found it on the side of the highwaybehind this, like, broken down car.
And, like, all her stuff is just scatteredin the weeds.
Her entire purse was there.
So they obviously threw it out of thewindow or something.
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Like, or, like, he stopped on his brake orhe threw it out from the highway.
I think he, like, stopped the car,searched the purse, threw the purse,
and drove away.
Because he was worried about you guystracking him.
Right.
Or he just, like, took the money and hetook, she had some, like, earrings and
some, because she didn't take her realwedding rings.
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She took, she bought fake ones on Amazon.
Oh, so that you didn't have, like,the really expensive stuff while you guys
were on vacation.
That makes a lot of sense.
We both got, like, $15, $10 rings offAmazon and wore those instead of...
And Michelle had them in her purse thatmorning.
She was like, I was going to put them onwhen we got to the airport.
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So he took her jewelry that was worth allof 20 bucks and 50 euros.
Right.
And threw the rest and, like, her wallet,everything was there.
So we put everything back in the purse andPaul, Paulo, is like, I close up my store
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at, like, 7.
I have, like, a few calls.
If you guys are willing to, like,stay for half an hour, we'll take you back
to our hotel.
Like, we feel really bad.
Like, and we're just happy we could help.
We want to show you they're, like,good people in Lisbon.
So they, like, let us sit in their store.
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They give us water.
They start telling us about, like,don't trust Uber.
It's terrible.
They were the nicest people.
They, like, tell us, like, we're sorry youdidn't like Lisbon, but, like,
please, like, here's the best places tosee.
And we, like, took each other's emailaddresses and we need to, like,
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send them flowers or, like, something tosay thank you because they were just the
sweetest, nicest people.
That's such a wild story, though.
Like, and we found everything.
That's what I mean.
Like, it's absolutely insane.
So we ended up, we couldn't get anyflights to the Hazors like, in time for us
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to fly home.
So we ended up canceling our flight homeand just booking an earlier flight.
We got, like, not all of our money back,but most of it.
And just booked a new flight straight fromLisbon to come home early because Michelle
was pretty done with her.
Yeah.
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I mean, for good reason.
Like, holy cow.
Like, I was in shock that we found herpurse.
Like, I could not believe it.
I mean, like, what are the odds?
You guys got so lucky.
I thought for sure he, like, threw the airtag.
Or, like, we'd find the purse,but her wallet would be missing.
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Well, like, almost certainly, right?
You guys are, like, one in a million thatyou actually found that.
Well, and, like, like, the way air tagswork is they have to ping off of,
like, an iPhone.
So an iPhone had to be close enough forlong enough to register.
Yeah, that's crazy.
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And, like, we had to go within,like, with how many...
We had to be within, like, 10 feet of thething for it to actually, like,
register on our phones.
And the battery had to be strong enoughso, like, yeah, we got so lucky.
And so lucky they were willing to help us.
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Like, we would have been searching forhours.
And who knows if we would have actuallybeen able to find it.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, that's just... I can't believe it.
What a crazy fucking story.
Thank you.
That's insane that that happened to you.
Thank you, Polygra, for helping us.
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But even just, like, for them having thepatience to, like, you know, try and
figure out what you guys were trying tosay and, like, help you guys.
Like, that they're genuinely good people,obviously.
They were just the kindest people.
And, like, she, at one point, Carla was onthe phone and she calls her son and is,
like, telling her son.
She's like, they're from Canada.
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This happened.
Like, it was just crazy.
Wow.
That's insane.
So, Michelle's like, I'm never taking anUber again.
Never again.
So, that's my story.
That's a pretty good story, man.
I'm glad that I got to, like, get it out.
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I mean, like, it's insane.
How many people have you told about thisso far?
Thank you for listening.
Of course.
To my TED Talk.
Like, we told our parents.
We told a few friends.
Michelle has a friend who had her pursestolen.
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Um, at one point.
So, we had...
So, I actually also had, like,a little sling and we got the kind of,
like, you couldn't cut as, like,metal in the strap because we had heard
these stories about people getting theirstuff stolen.
And even when we were in Greece,our tour guide said, always put it to,
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like, the front of your body.
Make sure, like, the strap is tight acrossyour chest because, like, people...
and keep the zippers, like, on the sideclosest to you because people will,
like, snatch and grab.
It's a big issue in busy streets,like, in the downtown area.
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And it's all very touristy.
Wow.
That's, like, mind-blowing, though,that you were able to actually get to this
place and meet these people.
They helped you and you found it and you,like, it didn't, like...
Yeah.
Like, that's... that is crazy to me.
And they helped us find it and,like...
Well, yeah, that's what I mean.
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Like, they had the decency to,like, help you find it.
That's...
that's even more crazy, right?
Because that doesn't... like, the factthat you even met them and they wanted to
help you in the first place is insane.
Wow.
Congratulations on your finding everythingand getting home safely.
Thank you for not getting abducted anddying.
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I am... yes.
Much appreciated.
At one point, we're in the...
car with the...
with Paul and the, like, seatbelt thingstarts dinging.
And Michelle's like, is that my purse?
I'm like, no, put your seatbelt on.
But we were just so worked up,like...
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Well, for good reason, though.
Like, that's a really stressful situationthat you guys went through.
And you survived it and you are strongerfor it.
I am... honestly, I am...
I am very...
in a way, like, I'm like, we got throughit together.
So, that was the good that came out of it.
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Right.
Yeah.
That's bonkers, man.
Anyway.
Thanks for not getting abducted and dyingthrough all that while you were gone.
You're welcome.
I don't want you to die, Brendan.
I love you so much.
Yes, I...
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I don't want to die, either.
Good.
I know I will one day, but hopefully nottoday.
Well, yeah.
Definitely not today.
Anyway, I want to hear about your things.
About my time?
After my half-hour soliloquy.
Well, anyway, that was a good story,though.
It's very entertaining.
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So, people...
It kept me on the edge of my seat while Iwas listening to it.
So, I don't have as many crazy things toreport, but...
The one thing I do have to report that's,like, a big deal in my life is I hit a
milestone with work recently, where I havea published work of animation that I
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supervised the animation on.
And it was through Pixar and Lego.
So, those are, like, two of the biggestcompanies you could possibly work for.
And I now officially have published workson Disney+, created by both of them.
So, that's really cool.
And it's kind of, like, accomplishing agoal I've had for a really long time.
So, it's, like, a huge milestone in mylife, and I'm very proud of myself for
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that.
So, they're called Pixar... or,Lego Pixar Brick Toons, is what it's
called.
It's on Disney+.
We're gonna do a little podcast watchingone or two of them right now.
We both got our Disney Plus accounts fromour wives.
Yes, we did.
We got our account info and learned whatit was so that we wouldn't disappoint y
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'all.
So, how long...
How long have you been working on this?
So, the last time that I was back visitingyou...
Well, when we came back for your wedding,actually.
I was currently working on that stuff.
Okay.
Because you had your new laptop.
Yeah.
So, I was working for this production,and I worked on it from last year,
beginning of October, until this year,beginning of April.
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So, about eight months.
About six months.
Seven months.
Anyway.
Okay.
Okay.
It might have been a little earlier thanOctober.
It started last year.
But yeah, it was like seven, eight monthsof animation alone, working on it.
So, a lot.
Yeah, it was a long time.
So, yeah.
We put a lot of work into it, and itturned out really nice.
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Although, being an animation supervisor,I still see things when I watch it where
I'm like, I wish I would have been able toadjust that still.
You are very critical.
Yeah, I'm hyper-focused on things thatneed to be fixed, because it's my job,
right?
I also think the more experience you'vegotten, the more critical you've gotten of
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animation.
A hundred percent.
In a good way.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
But I mean, it's cool.
I can point out a few to you after we'redone watching the shorts.
And you can...
Is there a specific episode or a specificsequence that you would like us to watch?
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So, there were two supervisors on thePixar Shorts show.
Before it was called Brick Toons,it was called LPS, Lego Pixar Shorts,
because they weren't decided on a nameyet.
Disney often does that with productions.
They won't tell the people working on itwhat it's actually going to be named until
it actually comes out, which is kind offunny.
But, yeah, so my...
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The ones that I personally supervised thewhole thing are...
There's an Incredibles one and there's aFinding Nemo one.
So I did both of those entirely.
I was supervising and animating on both ofthem the whole time.
And then there's a...
The Coco one that I also worked on quiteextensively and I supervised for quite a
bit of the time because the othersupervisor was away for about three
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quarters of that episode.
Did you...
So when you say supervise, did you do theactual...
Like, I'm very ignorant.
Did you do the actual animating or did yousupervise the animators?
I did both.
So I both animate on the show depending onwhat needs my attention.
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And then I also supervise the animators aswell.
So, and I basically review every singlething that comes in and I put back notes
and then they send it back again.
And it's just a lot of back and forth.
But yeah, it's definitely been anexperience.
It's been interesting.
Or it was interesting working through allthat stuff and working on all of it.
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So I'm excited to show you.
And hopefully the listeners are loyalloyal fans who have stuck around through
Thick and Thin will enjoy going andwatching some of these shorts and knowing
that someone they listen to in a podcastactually worked on them.
Your name is in the...
That's amazing to me.
So it's called Lego Pixar Brick Tunes.
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Yes.
Which is very cool.
And the two that are like the main onesthat I... I worked a little bit on all of
them, but the main ones that I worked onand had a lot of creative decision making
on.
Like Influence on are the Pizza Night,which is the third one, and Field Trip,
which is the fourth one.
Pizza Night is the Incredibles one,and Field Trip is the Finding Nemo one.
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Well, I say that those are the ones thatwe watch.
100%.
I have not seen these.
I have some questions, though,because I'm curious.
Okay.
How does...
As an artist that you are, you're a verytalented artist, but as an artist and an
animator, I know you've sort of explainedto me like you're in your process when it
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comes to like animating the look and feelof different characters.
Right.
But because these are Legos, how isthat...
Like, what was different in your process?
How is that different to animating aperson?
Or was it like... To be completely honest,it's not that different.
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It's pretty similar like in the processthat we animate them.
It's just in the...
In the critiquing process, like mypersonal job as a supervisor, like that is
a lot harder for me with Lego because Iobviously... This was my first time ever
working on a Lego production.
So I had to like be really critical oflike the Lego style and try to keep it in
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that style for the whole time.
Did you watch other Lego things to see?
I did watch a little... Like I watched theLego movie when I first started on these
so that I could get an idea.
One of the biggest challenges was findingNemo.
Because I personally animated the cyclesthat were worked over top of for all of
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the swimming for all the fish in that one.
And I did a lot of like the underwaterlooking animation and like taught people
how to do that properly.
So it looks like they're actuallyunderwater.
So that was really interesting.
It was hard to do.
It was pretty hard to like wrap my headaround and like work through.
But it ended up working out really well.
The short's really nice.
It looks like they're actually underwaterin the short, which I'm pretty proud of.
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Because I put a lot of time and work intolike making it look like that and making
sure the animators knew how to.
But yeah, that's like the biggest thing.
The biggest difference is like trying tofigure out the Lego style and like figure
out how these different shorts would workin the Lego style.
Also the mouths on the characters weren'tactual mouths.
They're like sticker plates that we likeanimated separately and like had different
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plates to switch between.
So that was kind of interesting.
It was almost like animating stop motionin a way.
So...
And then they just like superimpose thatover the...
Yeah, so it was in Maya like visually forus as we animated.
But yeah, they almost like...
It's not like After Effects where theylike composite it.
Right.
Like some of it is composited in the end.
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But for the most part, it is just likekind of in the 3D animating program.
And we're like doing it on the fly whilewe're animating.
But yeah, it definitely was a weirdexperience because you don't have like an
open mouth to work with.
It's like a flat thing that you're kind oflike changing and animating.
Why do they do it that way?
Because the Lego faces are stickers.
So they wanted it to look more like Legos.
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So it's less like fluid.
Yeah, pretty much.
You'll notice when you watch it.
Actually, it looks really good in the end.
But yeah, it's definitely interesting tohave that perspective on it.
But overall, it was very fun.
And I'm excited to show you.
Without further ado, why don't we start upthe Pizza Night one.
The incredible one.
I'm ready.
Even the Pixar is Lego.
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Yeah, so I actually supervised this.
To the animator that was working on this.
You did this?
I didn't animate this myself.
No, but I supervised it.
It was like giving notes and stuff andmaking sure it looked pretty close to the
actual Pixar logo.
Have you seen actual Incredibles,the movie?
I have not.
Oh, man.
So all of the voice actors are the same inthis.
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That were the voice actors on the actualmovie.
Pizza Planet.
Yep.
I will say in Disney in Orlando,my favorite was Toy Story.
Yeah, the Toy Story Land is awesome.
It was the best.
So, Pizza Planet.
Isn't... aren't they also Incredibles?
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Yeah, so all of the whole family has likesuperpowers.
And Jack Jack like just has random powers.
So that's like the what's funny aboutthis.
He's sort of like amalgamates himself intothe dough.
I animated a lot of shots on this serieson this short myself, too.
I love the way they do that.
I mean, that's the vibe of the movie,too.
It's kind of like retro.
Yeah, fifties.
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And the music is all like old style.
All the elements like they're not actualLegos, are they?
Yeah, everything in the short is Legos.
No, no, no.
Like, oh, like, you can't buy a Lego setof this.
Like, they're not actually.
They didn't like build it.
I animated this shot with him punching thedough, by the way.
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It's crazy.
But yeah, the so that you didn't actuallybuild it.
No.
No, they're like modeled in 3D and theyjust look like Legos.
Yeah, yeah.
We didn't build them from scratch withLegos or anything like that.
The dough on his face.
That just.
Yeah, it's good stuff, right?
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It's pretty hilarious.
There's a fun thing that happened.
Well, I say it's fun.
It wasn't fun for me because there's asnow globe thing in this short that you'll
see coming up where they put Syndrome inlike one of Violet's bubbles and shake him
around.
And I animated all that stuff.
And I'll tell you what happened with itwhen we get there.
But it's it's pretty just a typicalanimation studio like production thing
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that happens sometimes.
So you can tell watching it to that theirfaces are like little stickers that we
sort of animated.
Like all those little pieces.
I bet that was a bitch.
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Yeah, it's super was.
So him shaking around in the snow globe.
Like that.
Did you see all the sand in there?
Yeah.
So that's effects.
But I actually animated him bouncingaround in that snow globe with all the
pieces and took me like three days toanimate it and make it look good.
And then it got covered up by the sandeffects completely.
You can't even see it.
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It's adorable.
Yeah, I love that he's just been in thedough the whole time, like messing with
his dad.
Honestly, that would be the best thingabout having super speed.
You can get pizza super fast.
Okay, what's your name?
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It'll be coming up pretty soon hereactually.
Oh, they put the stupid.
Oh, you can click on it and it'll play bigagain.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it'll be...
There's your name.
Yeah, right at the top man.
At the top.
I don't know who this Rob guy is,but they should just take his name out of
there.
He did nothing.
You're like, he's my best friend.
He's a really nice guy.
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He did the best thing.
He did lots of work too.
Rob was awesome.
And a really good teammate.
But yeah.
So these are all the people that youworked with.
Yeah.
So I, my lead animators were all likereally, really good.
They all did a really good job on theshow.
And then they basically like, it's like apecking order, right?
So like the leads like do a lot oftechnical animating and like they handle
stuff that I delegate to them.
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But then like, I always like review all ofthe work by everyone throughout the show.
So, but the other animators obviously areall, some of them are seniors and some of
them are at different levels in their ownways, but they all, they all do their
part.
And then like it all comes together andbecomes one show, you know?
So.
That is very, that is so cool.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is a, this is my name in aPixar and Lego production on Disney Plus.
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I am very proud of you.
Thanks buddy.
Yeah.
I'm proud of me too.
This is a big like bucket listaccomplishment for you.
Yeah.
That's very cool.
Very, very cool.
And soon I will...
They should like...
Play these in Times Square or something.
In Times Square.
It's amazing.
All right.
Are we watching the Finding Nemo one?
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Yeah.
I don't see why not.
If you want to watch it, we can do that.
Sure.
Are the faces in this one the same as theother one?
Yeah.
So these are the, the eyes are,um, are built into the rigs and then the
mouths are stickers.
Stickers.
They're not actually stickers.
It's just the easiest way for me todescribe sort of what happened while we
were animating it.
Like, so yeah, you'll see like the fishsort of floating up and down.
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And like all these like idle animations ontheir fins and stuff in this one.
And all of that is me.
Like I did all that animation on the idleanimation for the fish.
So, and then obviously the animatorsadjusted it accordingly, according like
for each shot and like animated on top ofit.
But them actually like floating andlooking like they're swimming is probably
about 90% my animation.
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Is that actually Ellen?
Or did they get someone else?
It's not Ellen because there was somestuff going on with Ellen DeGeneres during
this.
Okay.
But Marlin is Marlin, right?
Yeah.
So Marlin's Marlin.
Mr. Ray is the same actor.
The person that plays Nemo's voice is thesame.
So is the idea, do you think?
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I mean, I know you don't know,but like, are they going to do more
feature length Lego, like reboots?
I hope they do more shorts.
I think that would be fun.
I don't think they'll do Lego full lengthstuff.
Cause they did Lego Star Wars.
Yeah.
Did they?
Yeah.
That was actually our studio as well.
That did the Lego Star Wars shorts thatcame out recently.
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And the Lego movie.
The Lego movie was not our studio,but yeah, they did do the Lego movie.
It would be cool if they did like a fulllength movie, but I don't know if they
would do that.
I just can't like, they look like Lego.
Yeah.
And I mean, they are Lego.
Like, I'm sure you could put that togetherif you wanted to.
My biggest hope, honestly, Brandon,is that they make real Lego sets for these
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shorts, because I would buy every singleone of them.
I would love having all five of them andjust like put them in my office.
Did I show you the one we, my dad,we got my dad the Mustang?
Oh yeah.
Those are really cool.
The car ones.
Cause you could open the doors andeverything.
For Christmas, Michelle got me a retrocomputer.
I don't know if I showed it to you.
I don't think so.
I haven't been there since beforeChristmas.
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That's true.
I made it on Boxing Day.
It took me like seven hours.
Holy crap.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
It was so much fun.
It's like a whole little monitor and akeyboard and a mouse.
Did you put it in the, in your office?
Yeah.
On one of the speakers.
I'm looking at it right now.
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That's awesome.
It even has like, the screen looks likeWindows 95.
Yeah.
So when we have to animate all these likeLego bricks falling too, it's such a pain
in the ass, but it's worth it cause itlooks cool after it's done.
Are you laughing about the assembly guide?
Yeah.
It's like amazing.
Yeah.
It's really cool.
They do like a whole building the shipboat again thing with it.
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Was that a bitch?
Not really.
I mean...
How do you, so how do you know what order,like, is that already done for you?
What do you mean?
What order the shots go in?
Like, yeah.
Like which bricks?
Well, I mean, we, we have to like bringthe stuff into the scenes and like place
it where we need it and stuff.
There was actually a huge pain in the asswith the, um, with the, this whole set
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because, well, it's all built togethernow, but like with the broken ship set,
there was like a lot of issues with itbecause there was like set dress
everywhere that like needed to go incertain places and it kept like moving
around and we couldn't figure out why.
So, but a lot of that's done in layout orlike the previous departments.
And then we just adjusted accordingly tolike how we needed an animation.
And then you just like, like the assetsare already done.
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Yeah.
So that's like separate departments.
Okay.
So like modeling models them and thenrigging, we'll put a skeleton in it so
that we're able to animate it.
Um, and then like compositing and stuffdoes all the eyes and like all the,
all the look of everything like completewhen it's done.
But I like how they like don't want todress her clear short-term memory loss.
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Yeah.
They kind of ignore it for most of it.
It's pretty funny, but yeah, it is wildthough.
Like I remember when I was 13 and,um, Nemo came out like the actual movie
and it was like, it's, it's to this day,it's still one of my favorite Pixar
movies.
And then I get to work on something likethis, which is like all the same
characters and the same world,you know, but just with Lego.
I froze it on your name again.
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Cause it's so cool.
I do it every time.
Every time I watch these or show people,I always pause it on my name.
It's awesome.
So you could put like a screenshot of thisif you want in the cliff notes for the
podcast too.
Oh, I'm making a screenshot right now.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's right there up at the top though.
Son of a...
Oh, go back.
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But yeah, that's the two ones that I likehad the most influence on.
That is amazing.
It's pretty cool.
Right?
So yeah.
Hopefully, um, all of our loyal fans,you guys will go and take a look at these.
They're, they're 10 minutes each andthey're, they're, they're pretty great.
They're heartwarming and very funny.
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And I have to say the animation is topshelf.
Well, thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
For, for what it's worth.
I know I'm not, uh, I feel like you have abit of a creative eye for that kind of
stuff anyway, but, um, yeah, that's that.
They're pretty cool.
Um, we're probably going to do a littlebit of, of some different stuff with our
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podcast in the future.
So stay tuned.
We're excited about it.
We are reorganizing.
Yes.
That's the best way to put it.
So, um, but yeah, it's always fun andwe're going to probably try and get some
more of this in now that Brendan's donehis honeymoon and he's done dead getting
married and being an adult and all thatgood stuff.
So I still got to go on my honeymoon atsome point too, if Steph and I haven't
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decided when we're going to do that,but Where are you going?
We want to go to Greece.
Oh, I went there.
Yeah.
But I mean, I might try and convince Stephto go on a Disney cruise.
Cause it sounds like it'd be really good.
We did a Virgin cruise.
It was, it was very, very good.
No kids.
Um, what else?
The food was incredible.
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They had all these restaurants.
And so every night for dinner,you pick where you want to go.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
I'm going to look into it and see if I canlike book something and then be like,
Hey, Steph, guess what?
You're going on a cruise.
I don't know how her like seasick,like if she'd be seasick though,
cause she's got the stomach issues.
So it might be something that we need tolike talk about and see if it's okay,
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but still it would be really fun.
I think it would be really cool to go on aDisney cruise, especially now that I can
tell people I animated on it on likeDisney productions and stuff, you know,
and not just be like making shit up.
That would be very cool.
Yeah.
That would be really cool.
But, um, I'm glad we were able to jump ontonight, buddy.
For sure.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait.
Oh no.
This has been another refined...
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Nineties.
...Quick Hits.
Pixar Quick Hits.
Pixar Quick Hits.
Recording.
(00:00):
We should do a clap.
Okay.
So I'm supposed to be recording you but Ihave to check all the chords because I did
some moving around and I think I unpluggedone of the chords.
Anyway.
Okay, so... Three, two, one, clap.
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All righty.
For some reason I always clap and then Ihear your clap come through afterwards.
Yeah, it's the opposite for me.
It's because there's like a delay on bothsides.
It's because we're far away.
Far away, through the internet,above the hill and over the trees.
So far away, la la la la.
(01:30):
Do you like my song?
I do.
I feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Well, you're fucking better.
I wrote it for you.
Thank you.
I've never felt more alive.
Turned on.
Bonerific.
Oof.
Anyway, hello.
Hello, everybody.
Hello, internet.
(01:52):
Let's move away from the bonerificsituation.
Yes.
Let's be not that.
Well, we have to always be bonerific,dude.
It's true.
And I mean, usually we are in our way ofbeing.
And of having.
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Having and being.
Being and having.
That's the way.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I like it.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I like it.
Anyway, today is the first time we'vegotten on in a while.
Right, Brandon?
This is true.
We've been busy, and I went on an extendedhoneymoon.
(02:38):
And now I will tell you the excitingconclusion.
Okay.
Tell us your story.
Okay.
So...
Sigh.
My wife and I...
...land in Portugal.
And we are... so we're in Lisbon.
We're supposed to spend the night inLisbon, and then fly the next morning to
the Azores, to an island where a friend ofmine has a home.
(03:04):
And so his family had invited us to staythere for three or four days, and that was
the end of our three weeks of honeymoon.
So we're supposed to fly there,stay there for a few days, and then fly
home to Canada.
Okay.
So we get an Uber to take us from ourhotel to the airport.
(03:27):
And all over the airport, there's signsthat say, like, Use Uber.
It's good.
You get a discount.
Blah, blah, blah.
Whatever it says.
And...
My wife gets in the back seat,and I get in the front seat and push the
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seat back, because...
And all the way up into that point,I'd mostly been getting in the back,
because it made me feel fancy,right?
Like, you're both sitting in the back,and there's a driver, and it makes you
feel fancy.
Right.
But I sit in the front, because we're,like, on a busy street, and the driver's
side, there's a bunch of traffic.
(04:08):
So I'm like, well, I'll just get in thepassenger side to, like, let us get there
faster.
We weren't late or anything.
We just...
I just thought we'd get there faster.
But the seat was pushed all the wayforward, so I pushed the seat back,
and, like, Michelle's in the back,like, putting her stuff down, and we get
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our suitcases in the car, and we're goingto the airport.
And we, like, the parking lot at theairport was super busy, so we're,
like, trying to navigate everything,get our bags out, everything else.
We roll up to the gate to check our bagsin, and we're, like, a few hours before
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the flight.
So we're, like, good to go and everything.
And Michelle reaches down to grab herpassport, and she's like, where's my
purse?
And I'm like...
Oh, no.
What do you...
What do you mean?
Like, you had it on you, like,until we got to the car.
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She's like, yes.
And I was like, I think you left.
I think you left it in the Uber.
And we were, like, two or three minutesfrom having seen the car.
And the airport was really busy.
So I'm thinking, like, maybe the driverhasn't even left the parking lot.
Because he had told us as we were drivingin, like, he gets backed up, he gets
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really busy, sometimes he has to sit intraffic.
So I keep all of our luggage.
She runs out to the parking lot to see ifshe can find this guy.
Okay.
She remembered, like, half of his licenseplate and the type of car that it was.
So she runs out there, and she's,like, looking, not finding anything.
(05:58):
Oh, dude, I'd be freaking out.
So, well, like, all of her ID was in herpurse.
Yeah.
Some of our money, like, 50 bucks was inher purse.
Everything else was in our two backpacks.
And we had those on us.
So, yeah.
We didn't have a lot of cash, but,like, I had all my ID and everything.
(06:21):
And my wallet, she didn't have her purse.
So, we go into, we sit down at a table,we go into the Uber app, we tell the
ticketing agents, she's lost her purse,we're gonna, like, get her a passport,
we're gonna figure out something.
(06:42):
In the meantime, they're like,okay, we'll mark it down, so, like,
we're not...
We're not calling you to get on theflight.
You're not checked in.
If you find it, come back and we'll try toput you on the flight or the one that's
later this afternoon.
So, we're like, okay.
So, we sit down and she's, obviously,she's upset.
(07:04):
She thinks she's, like, ruined everything.
And I'm like, no, like, we're gonna worktogether.
We're gonna figure this out.
Like, so, I have her, like, tell me a listof everything she had in her purse just to
keep her mind, like, working.
She calls Uber, she talks to the guy,tells him, like, he's like, oh,
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you must have, like, dropped it,it's not here.
And she's like, it's a black purse,it was under the seat, my husband pushed
the seat back, double plus on our side,we had an air tag in her purse.
And we're seeing the air tag move around.
Okay.
Okay.
We know that the purse...
(07:47):
The purse is, like, in a car.
And it's near the airport, because we cansee it moving.
Oh, my God, that's so good that you hadthe air tag in there.
So, like, thank God.
So, she says to him, like, no,we can see it, it's moving with you.
Like, we know you're on the road to theairport, like, leaving the airport.
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Could you please, like, we'll give you acash reward.
Could you do anything?
Could you please come back?
Blah, blah, blah.
He says no.
And then, because...
So, the way it works is you have tocontact the driver through the app.
You can't contact them directly.
Right.
Why would he say no, though?
That's so stupid.
(08:31):
So, he then blocks us in the app frommaking any more phone calls.
Wow.
He says that we're harassing him.
Holy crap, that's ridiculous.
So, Michelle is freaking out.
So, we contact, like, Uber customersupport, who we're already talking to.
They tell us they can't do anything within24 hours.
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And that the driver has, like,we're not allowed to contact him again for
24 hours.
Right.
So, I'm like, if he's not giving it back,maybe, like, he's being honest.
Maybe he doesn't see it.
Maybe, like, he'll get to the end of hisroute.
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And then he'll be like, oh, like,it's here.
Like, I should call that woman back.
Yeah.
Right?
Or maybe he's just going to steal itbecause he thinks he can, like,
take our $50 and Michelle's fake jewelry.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
There wasn't much in it.
Like, her credit cards were the mostvaluable thing.
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So, we're like, well, like, we can't geton the plane because she doesn't have a...
She doesn't have a passport.
She doesn't have any ID.
So, we have to, like, if we can't get thepurse back, we have to go to the Canadian
consulate in Lisbon and get her anotherpassport.
So, there's a police station in theairport.
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One of the...
There's a police officer outside thattells us, like, go.
There's, like, a station.
Maybe they can help you.
So, we go.
They're like, we can't help you.
Like, it's...
We're showing him on the map.
We're, like, we can see him.
His name's Carlos.
This is the kind of car he has.
This is his license plate.
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He's like, we can't help you.
It's between you and Uber.
Like, there's 7 million people in thiscity.
What do you want us to do?
Holy cow.
So, we're like, okay, we'll go to theCanadian consulate because we're like,
what else can we do?
So, we take, like, a real taxi from theairport to the consulate.
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The taxi driver is like, never take ataxi.
Uber.
It's full of, like, immigrants.
They're, like, robbers.
They're bad.
They were like, take you.
He kept saying, like, no good.
Only take taxi.
Only taxi.
And so, we're like, yeah, we're nevertaking an Uber again, obviously.
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And he was explaining to us, as he's,like, speeding to the consulate,
because Michelle's crying.
He feels so bad.
He is telling us, like, So, like,if you want to be a taxi driver,
it's, like, a special license.
It's, like, a multi-month driver's coursethat you have to take.
Yeah.
It's, like, all these written tests.
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And you get, like, a special license atthe end.
But what Uber drivers are doing is,a lot of times, one person will take the
course and get, it's, like, a one- or two-day course in Portugal.
They'll get the special license.
And then, like...
Three or four people will share the carand the license.
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Because they look alike.
Right.
So, like, someone will, like, own the car.
And then someone finds these, like,illegal workers to, like, work in the same
Uber account.
That's so fucked.
Right?
So, we get to the consulate.
And they're, like...
The police were not helpful.
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But they were super helpful.
They were, like, okay.
So, the cops won't help you.
But, like, we're gonna get in touch with,like, the Canadian government and the
diplomat.
The woman was, like, she was, like,honestly, we can't do anything for at
least 72 hours.
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And especially with the time change.
Because at this point, it's, like,2 a.m.
in Canada.
She's, like, we can't do anything untiltomorrow morning.
Because...
It's, like, it's already too late in thenight.
And we can't get a hold of anyone until atleast tomorrow.
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So, she's, like, we can definitely get youa passport.
Like, you're gonna have to at least spendthree days in Lisbon until we can get you
a passport.
And they, like, they made sure,like, I still had my credit card.
So, like, we could get money if we neededit.
We still had a little bit of cash.
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So, we were okay there.
They gave us all the forms.
They said, like, go get your passportpictures.
Here's, like, a place to go.
Here's where you can get train passes.
Do you have a place to stay for yourhotel?
They took all our information so that theycould help us.
And Michelle, luckily, she had had herphone on her.
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And when we landed in France, we had gother, like, a local, like, an EU SIM card.
Right.
So, she had a local phone number that theycould call if anything came up.
So, they gave us the paperwork.
We leave.
We go to where it's like a metro station,like a subway station, where they have the
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passport, the photo place.
So, we go get our pictures.
We start filling out the forms.
They made an appointment for us to comeback the next day.
Okay.
And, like, do the passport if we couldn'tfind it or get it back from the Uber
driver.
Right.
So, we start filling out the forms.
We do that.
I book us.
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I get us bus passes and subway passes forthe next few days.
We book the same hotel for three nights sothat we have a place to stay.
Because we can't go anywhere untilMichelle has a passport, right?
We, like, eventually...
We go back to the hotel, Michelle,like, calls her parents, uh, cancels her
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credit cards, puts a hold on her debitcard, like, makes sure, like, everything
gets, like, said as lost or stolen.
The only thing we didn't do is mark herpassport stolen.
Because the, the consul, the lady at theconsulate said, if we report it as stolen,
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it's now invalid.
So, if, like, if you're able to get itback...
Before tomorrow...
Right, because you need it still,so you can't do that.
So, she, she, like, we needed the numberto, like, book a hotel.
Oh, man.
So, luckily, the hotel we stayed at thenight before had it on file.
And they were like, it's fine,like, we'll, we'll, like, we'll still
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honor it.
And we'll just put it on your husband'sname.
Like, so that was fine.
So, she's like...
Once you get it back, I want you to beable to use it, like, like, let's wait
till tomorrow, kind of thing.
And honestly, she was just trying to,like, calm Michelle down, which was really
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nice and helpful.
So, she was like, this happens all thetime, like, we'll make sure you get home.
Like, that's not a concern.
Don't worry about that.
So, it's, like, six o'clock at night.
Michelle's like, the hair tag,she, we've been tracking it on her phones
all day.
She's like, it stopped moving,hasn't moved since 3.30.
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I think, like, it's there, my purse isthere.
So, I'm like, all right.
If, like, I look up the bus schedule inGoogle Maps.
If you want to go, it's a 20-minute busride.
If we go now, we can get there,have 45 minutes to look, and still have
enough time to get the last bus back toour hotel for the night.
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She's like, I want to go, I want to go.
Right.
So, we take a bus.
We're literally, like, we're going out ofthe city.
People are looking at us like,like, what are you doing?
Why is she crying?
Like, it was, it was emotional.
Well, yeah, because no one else obviouslyunderstands what's going on.
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Right.
And you guys are like, are we going tohave to, like, get stuck here?
We don't speak Portuguese.
We're like, anyway.
So, we...
We go to where it is.
There's a highway, and then a hill up,and then a little street, and some,
like, businesses.
But it's, like, very industrial.
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There's, like, old, like, you could tell,like, they used to be factories,
but they're closed down.
Right.
So, we go to this, like, dirt parking lot,and there's just, like, brush everywhere.
And we're walking up and down with ourphones, like, trying to, like,
find the airtight.
And every once in a while, it's,like, the object is near you, or,
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like, faint signal on our phones.
So, like, walking around, we're like,it's got to be here.
And in my head, I'm, like, trying to holdout hope for Michelle's sake, but I'm,
like, the guy, like, threw the airtightout of his car and, like, took the purse.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If he wanted the purse, and he thought itwas valuable.
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That's what he took.
So, there's this...
That's what logic would dictate,anyway.
And I'm always, like, thinking the worst-case scenario, right?
So, there's this store across the street.
It's, like, a hardware store.
They sell, like, lights and, like,stuff to put lights in your house.
And we go in, and there's a woman at thecounter.
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And Michelle's, like, do you speakEnglish?
And she's, like, a little.
And Michelle starts telling the story,and she's, like, sorry, no.
Like...
I don't speak English.
But Michelle put, like, explained what hadhappened to us on her phone, translated
it, and wrote it in the Notes app on herphone.
So, she gives her the Notes app.
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The woman reads it, and she's,like, oh.
She goes and gets her husband.
Gets her husband to read it, and is,like, okay.
So, he, like, goes into the parking lot,and he's, like, this is our car.
This is the neighbor's car who livesupstairs.
And there's, like, another, like,car that clearly was on fire at one point
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at the side of the parking lot,like, busted out windows, everything.
He's, like, there was another car hereearlier, but we didn't know whose it was.
So, we're, like, looking, and he's,like, our cars have been here all day.
They're locked up.
Like, we haven't seen anybody suspicious.
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But, like, we'll help you look for thepurse.
So, he helps us look.
Look, we're not finding anything.
He's, like, there's a police station downthe road.
Maybe they can help us.
Or, like, at least you could report it asmissing.
So, we start walking, and his wife comesout, and she's, like, no, no, no.
Like, yelling at her husband, like,you drive them.
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So, he drives us down to the policestation in his car.
Michelle's so paranoid.
She's, like, what if he stole the purse?
And he's now, like...
Gonna kill us.
I'm, like, Michelle, like, calm down.
Jesus.
This is such an endeavor that you guyswent through.
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It's, like, 6.30 at night at this point.
We had gotten to the airport at 11.
So, this started at, like, 11.30.
It's now 6 o'clock in the evening.
We're still looking for this purse.
The police are, like, alright.
Like, the best we can tell you is keeplooking.
If you can't find it, like, here's theaddress and the location of the
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headquarters.
Go there and, like, do a formal report.
And at least, like, you'll have it onpaper.
But, like, that's the best we can do foryou right now.
So, we go back to this side of the highwayand we're, like, total crime scene
investigator mode.
Like, CSI.
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I'm, like, alright.
If he was driving a car and the car wasgoing 50 kilometers, an hour, he was,
like, an able-bodied man, but he threw itout at the passenger side.
Like, you couldn't have thrown it that farif he threw your purse.
How many, like, feet?
How many, like, you know, how many metersdo you think it could have gotten?
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And we're, like, walking through thebrush.
And at this point, the husband,the store owner, is helping us look.
And he is, like, I don't know,like, he's looking in the parking lot.
We're looking further down the road wherethe highway is.
He starts whistling.
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And there's something up in his hand.
Like, for, like, like, motioning for us tocome to the parking lot, back to where
he's standing.
Michelle is, like, crying.
She's, like, is that my purse?
Is that my purse?
Sprinting up this hill.
We get, we would later learn his name wasPaul.
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Paul has her purse in his hand.
He found it on the side of the highwaybehind this, like, broken down car.
And, like, all her stuff is just scatteredin the weeds.
Her entire purse was there.
So they obviously threw it out of thewindow or something.
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Like, or, like, he stopped on his brake orhe threw it out from the highway.
I think he, like, stopped the car,searched the purse, threw the purse,
and drove away.
Because he was worried about you guystracking him.
Right.
Or he just, like, took the money and hetook, she had some, like, earrings and
some, because she didn't take her realwedding rings.
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She took, she bought fake ones on Amazon.
Oh, so that you didn't have, like,the really expensive stuff while you guys
were on vacation.
That makes a lot of sense.
We both got, like, $15, $10 rings offAmazon and wore those instead of...
And Michelle had them in her purse thatmorning.
She was like, I was going to put them onwhen we got to the airport.
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So he took her jewelry that was worth allof 20 bucks and 50 euros.
Right.
And threw the rest and, like, her wallet,everything was there.
So we put everything back in the purse andPaul, Paulo, is like, I close up my store
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at, like, 7.
I have, like, a few calls.
If you guys are willing to, like,stay for half an hour, we'll take you back
to our hotel.
Like, we feel really bad.
Like, and we're just happy we could help.
We want to show you they're, like,good people in Lisbon.
So they, like, let us sit in their store.
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They give us water.
They start telling us about, like,don't trust Uber.
It's terrible.
They were the nicest people.
They, like, tell us, like, we're sorry youdidn't like Lisbon, but, like,
please, like, here's the best places tosee.
And we, like, took each other's emailaddresses and we need to, like,
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send them flowers or, like, something tosay thank you because they were just the
sweetest, nicest people.
That's such a wild story, though.
Like, and we found everything.
That's what I mean.
Like, it's absolutely insane.
So we ended up, we couldn't get anyflights to the Hazors like, in time for us
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to fly home.
So we ended up canceling our flight homeand just booking an earlier flight.
We got, like, not all of our money back,but most of it.
And just booked a new flight straight fromLisbon to come home early because Michelle
was pretty done with her.
Yeah.
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I mean, for good reason.
Like, holy cow.
Like, I was in shock that we found herpurse.
Like, I could not believe it.
I mean, like, what are the odds?
You guys got so lucky.
I thought for sure he, like, threw the airtag.
Or, like, we'd find the purse,but her wallet would be missing.
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Well, like, almost certainly, right?
You guys are, like, one in a million thatyou actually found that.
Well, and, like, like, the way air tagswork is they have to ping off of,
like, an iPhone.
So an iPhone had to be close enough forlong enough to register.
Yeah, that's crazy.
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And, like, we had to go within,like, with how many...
We had to be within, like, 10 feet of thething for it to actually, like,
register on our phones.
And the battery had to be strong enoughso, like, yeah, we got so lucky.
And so lucky they were willing to help us.
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Like, we would have been searching forhours.
And who knows if we would have actuallybeen able to find it.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, that's just... I can't believe it.
What a crazy fucking story.
Thank you.
That's insane that that happened to you.
Thank you, Polygra, for helping us.
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But even just, like, for them having thepatience to, like, you know, try and
figure out what you guys were trying tosay and, like, help you guys.
Like, that they're genuinely good people,obviously.
They were just the kindest people.
And, like, she, at one point, Carla was onthe phone and she calls her son and is,
like, telling her son.
She's like, they're from Canada.
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This happened.
Like, it was just crazy.
Wow.
That's insane.
So, Michelle's like, I'm never taking anUber again.
Never again.
So, that's my story.
That's a pretty good story, man.
I'm glad that I got to, like, get it out.
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I mean, like, it's insane.
How many people have you told about thisso far?
Thank you for listening.
Of course.
To my TED Talk.
Like, we told our parents.
We told a few friends.
Michelle has a friend who had her pursestolen.
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Um, at one point.
So, we had...
So, I actually also had, like,a little sling and we got the kind of,
like, you couldn't cut as, like,metal in the strap because we had heard
these stories about people getting theirstuff stolen.
And even when we were in Greece,our tour guide said, always put it to,
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like, the front of your body.
Make sure, like, the strap is tight acrossyour chest because, like, people...
and keep the zippers, like, on the sideclosest to you because people will,
like, snatch and grab.
It's a big issue in busy streets,like, in the downtown area.
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And it's all very touristy.
Wow.
That's, like, mind-blowing, though,that you were able to actually get to this
place and meet these people.
They helped you and you found it and you,like, it didn't, like...
Yeah.
Like, that's... that is crazy to me.
And they helped us find it and,like...
Well, yeah, that's what I mean.
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Like, they had the decency to,like, help you find it.
That's...
that's even more crazy, right?
Because that doesn't... like, the factthat you even met them and they wanted to
help you in the first place is insane.
Wow.
Congratulations on your finding everythingand getting home safely.
Thank you for not getting abducted anddying.
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I am... yes.
Much appreciated.
At one point, we're in the...
car with the...
with Paul and the, like, seatbelt thingstarts dinging.
And Michelle's like, is that my purse?
I'm like, no, put your seatbelt on.
But we were just so worked up,like...
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Well, for good reason, though.
Like, that's a really stressful situationthat you guys went through.
And you survived it and you are strongerfor it.
I am... honestly, I am...
I am very...
in a way, like, I'm like, we got throughit together.
So, that was the good that came out of it.
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Right.
Yeah.
That's bonkers, man.
Anyway.
Thanks for not getting abducted and dyingthrough all that while you were gone.
You're welcome.
I don't want you to die, Brendan.
I love you so much.
Yes, I...
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I don't want to die, either.
Good.
I know I will one day, but hopefully nottoday.
Well, yeah.
Definitely not today.
Anyway, I want to hear about your things.
About my time?
After my half-hour soliloquy.
Well, anyway, that was a good story,though.
It's very entertaining.
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So, people...
It kept me on the edge of my seat while Iwas listening to it.
So, I don't have as many crazy things toreport, but...
The one thing I do have to report that's,like, a big deal in my life is I hit a
milestone with work recently, where I havea published work of animation that I
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supervised the animation on.
And it was through Pixar and Lego.
So, those are, like, two of the biggestcompanies you could possibly work for.
And I now officially have published workson Disney+, created by both of them.
So, that's really cool.
And it's kind of, like, accomplishing agoal I've had for a really long time.
So, it's, like, a huge milestone in mylife, and I'm very proud of myself for
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that.
So, they're called Pixar... or,Lego Pixar Brick Toons, is what it's
called.
It's on Disney+.
We're gonna do a little podcast watchingone or two of them right now.
We both got our Disney Plus accounts fromour wives.
Yes, we did.
We got our account info and learned whatit was so that we wouldn't disappoint y
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'all.
So, how long...
How long have you been working on this?
So, the last time that I was back visitingyou...
Well, when we came back for your wedding,actually.
I was currently working on that stuff.
Okay.
Because you had your new laptop.
Yeah.
So, I was working for this production,and I worked on it from last year,
beginning of October, until this year,beginning of April.
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So, about eight months.
About six months.
Seven months.
Anyway.
Okay.
Okay.
It might have been a little earlier thanOctober.
It started last year.
But yeah, it was like seven, eight monthsof animation alone, working on it.
So, a lot.
Yeah, it was a long time.
So, yeah.
We put a lot of work into it, and itturned out really nice.
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Although, being an animation supervisor,I still see things when I watch it where
I'm like, I wish I would have been able toadjust that still.
You are very critical.
Yeah, I'm hyper-focused on things thatneed to be fixed, because it's my job,
right?
I also think the more experience you'vegotten, the more critical you've gotten of
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animation.
A hundred percent.
In a good way.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
But I mean, it's cool.
I can point out a few to you after we'redone watching the shorts.
And you can...
Is there a specific episode or a specificsequence that you would like us to watch?
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So, there were two supervisors on thePixar Shorts show.
Before it was called Brick Toons,it was called LPS, Lego Pixar Shorts,
because they weren't decided on a nameyet.
Disney often does that with productions.
They won't tell the people working on itwhat it's actually going to be named until
it actually comes out, which is kind offunny.
But, yeah, so my...
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The ones that I personally supervised thewhole thing are...
There's an Incredibles one and there's aFinding Nemo one.
So I did both of those entirely.
I was supervising and animating on both ofthem the whole time.
And then there's a...
The Coco one that I also worked on quiteextensively and I supervised for quite a
bit of the time because the othersupervisor was away for about three
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quarters of that episode.
Did you...
So when you say supervise, did you do theactual...
Like, I'm very ignorant.
Did you do the actual animating or did yousupervise the animators?
I did both.
So I both animate on the show depending onwhat needs my attention.
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And then I also supervise the animators aswell.
So, and I basically review every singlething that comes in and I put back notes
and then they send it back again.
And it's just a lot of back and forth.
But yeah, it's definitely been anexperience.
It's been interesting.
Or it was interesting working through allthat stuff and working on all of it.
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So I'm excited to show you.
And hopefully the listeners are loyalloyal fans who have stuck around through
Thick and Thin will enjoy going andwatching some of these shorts and knowing
that someone they listen to in a podcastactually worked on them.
Your name is in the...
That's amazing to me.
So it's called Lego Pixar Brick Tunes.
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Yes.
Which is very cool.
And the two that are like the main onesthat I... I worked a little bit on all of
them, but the main ones that I worked onand had a lot of creative decision making
on.
Like Influence on are the Pizza Night,which is the third one, and Field Trip,
which is the fourth one.
Pizza Night is the Incredibles one,and Field Trip is the Finding Nemo one.
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Well, I say that those are the ones thatwe watch.
100%.
I have not seen these.
I have some questions, though,because I'm curious.
Okay.
How does...
As an artist that you are, you're a verytalented artist, but as an artist and an
animator, I know you've sort of explainedto me like you're in your process when it
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comes to like animating the look and feelof different characters.
Right.
But because these are Legos, how isthat...
Like, what was different in your process?
How is that different to animating aperson?
Or was it like... To be completely honest,it's not that different.
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It's pretty similar like in the processthat we animate them.
It's just in the...
In the critiquing process, like mypersonal job as a supervisor, like that is
a lot harder for me with Lego because Iobviously... This was my first time ever
working on a Lego production.
So I had to like be really critical oflike the Lego style and try to keep it in
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that style for the whole time.
Did you watch other Lego things to see?
I did watch a little... Like I watched theLego movie when I first started on these
so that I could get an idea.
One of the biggest challenges was findingNemo.
Because I personally animated the cyclesthat were worked over top of for all of
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the swimming for all the fish in that one.
And I did a lot of like the underwaterlooking animation and like taught people
how to do that properly.
So it looks like they're actuallyunderwater.
So that was really interesting.
It was hard to do.
It was pretty hard to like wrap my headaround and like work through.
But it ended up working out really well.
The short's really nice.
It looks like they're actually underwaterin the short, which I'm pretty proud of.
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Because I put a lot of time and work intolike making it look like that and making
sure the animators knew how to.
But yeah, that's like the biggest thing.
The biggest difference is like trying tofigure out the Lego style and like figure
out how these different shorts would workin the Lego style.
Also the mouths on the characters weren'tactual mouths.
They're like sticker plates that we likeanimated separately and like had different
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plates to switch between.
So that was kind of interesting.
It was almost like animating stop motionin a way.
So...
And then they just like superimpose thatover the...
Yeah, so it was in Maya like visually forus as we animated.
But yeah, they almost like...
It's not like After Effects where theylike composite it.
Right.
Like some of it is composited in the end.
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But for the most part, it is just likekind of in the 3D animating program.
And we're like doing it on the fly whilewe're animating.
But yeah, it definitely was a weirdexperience because you don't have like an
open mouth to work with.
It's like a flat thing that you're kind oflike changing and animating.
Why do they do it that way?
Because the Lego faces are stickers.
So they wanted it to look more like Legos.
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So it's less like fluid.
Yeah, pretty much.
You'll notice when you watch it.
Actually, it looks really good in the end.
But yeah, it's definitely interesting tohave that perspective on it.
But overall, it was very fun.
And I'm excited to show you.
Without further ado, why don't we start upthe Pizza Night one.
The incredible one.
I'm ready.
Even the Pixar is Lego.
(38:31):
Yeah, so I actually supervised this.
To the animator that was working on this.
You did this?
I didn't animate this myself.
No, but I supervised it.
It was like giving notes and stuff andmaking sure it looked pretty close to the
actual Pixar logo.
Have you seen actual Incredibles,the movie?
I have not.
Oh, man.
So all of the voice actors are the same inthis.
(38:52):
That were the voice actors on the actualmovie.
Pizza Planet.
Yep.
I will say in Disney in Orlando,my favorite was Toy Story.
Yeah, the Toy Story Land is awesome.
It was the best.
So, Pizza Planet.
Isn't... aren't they also Incredibles?
(39:14):
Yeah, so all of the whole family has likesuperpowers.
And Jack Jack like just has random powers.
So that's like the what's funny aboutthis.
He's sort of like amalgamates himself intothe dough.
I animated a lot of shots on this serieson this short myself, too.
I love the way they do that.
I mean, that's the vibe of the movie,too.
It's kind of like retro.
Yeah, fifties.
(39:35):
And the music is all like old style.
All the elements like they're not actualLegos, are they?
Yeah, everything in the short is Legos.
No, no, no.
Like, oh, like, you can't buy a Lego setof this.
Like, they're not actually.
They didn't like build it.
I animated this shot with him punching thedough, by the way.
(39:56):
It's crazy.
But yeah, the so that you didn't actuallybuild it.
No.
No, they're like modeled in 3D and theyjust look like Legos.
Yeah, yeah.
We didn't build them from scratch withLegos or anything like that.
The dough on his face.
That just.
Yeah, it's good stuff, right?
(40:17):
It's pretty hilarious.
There's a fun thing that happened.
Well, I say it's fun.
It wasn't fun for me because there's asnow globe thing in this short that you'll
see coming up where they put Syndrome inlike one of Violet's bubbles and shake him
around.
And I animated all that stuff.
And I'll tell you what happened with itwhen we get there.
But it's it's pretty just a typicalanimation studio like production thing
(40:40):
that happens sometimes.
So you can tell watching it to that theirfaces are like little stickers that we
sort of animated.
Like all those little pieces.
I bet that was a bitch.
(41:01):
Yeah, it's super was.
So him shaking around in the snow globe.
Like that.
Did you see all the sand in there?
Yeah.
So that's effects.
But I actually animated him bouncingaround in that snow globe with all the
pieces and took me like three days toanimate it and make it look good.
And then it got covered up by the sandeffects completely.
You can't even see it.
(41:25):
It's adorable.
Yeah, I love that he's just been in thedough the whole time, like messing with
his dad.
Honestly, that would be the best thingabout having super speed.
You can get pizza super fast.
Okay, what's your name?
(41:45):
It'll be coming up pretty soon hereactually.
Oh, they put the stupid.
Oh, you can click on it and it'll play bigagain.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it'll be...
There's your name.
Yeah, right at the top man.
At the top.
I don't know who this Rob guy is,but they should just take his name out of
there.
He did nothing.
You're like, he's my best friend.
He's a really nice guy.
(42:06):
He did the best thing.
He did lots of work too.
Rob was awesome.
And a really good teammate.
But yeah.
So these are all the people that youworked with.
Yeah.
So I, my lead animators were all likereally, really good.
They all did a really good job on theshow.
And then they basically like, it's like apecking order, right?
So like the leads like do a lot oftechnical animating and like they handle
stuff that I delegate to them.
(42:28):
But then like, I always like review all ofthe work by everyone throughout the show.
So, but the other animators obviously areall, some of them are seniors and some of
them are at different levels in their ownways, but they all, they all do their
part.
And then like it all comes together andbecomes one show, you know?
So.
That is very, that is so cool.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is a, this is my name in aPixar and Lego production on Disney Plus.
(42:53):
I am very proud of you.
Thanks buddy.
Yeah.
I'm proud of me too.
This is a big like bucket listaccomplishment for you.
Yeah.
That's very cool.
Very, very cool.
And soon I will...
They should like...
Play these in Times Square or something.
In Times Square.
It's amazing.
All right.
Are we watching the Finding Nemo one?
(43:13):
Yeah.
I don't see why not.
If you want to watch it, we can do that.
Sure.
Are the faces in this one the same as theother one?
Yeah.
So these are the, the eyes are,um, are built into the rigs and then the
mouths are stickers.
Stickers.
They're not actually stickers.
It's just the easiest way for me todescribe sort of what happened while we
were animating it.
Like, so yeah, you'll see like the fishsort of floating up and down.
(43:35):
And like all these like idle animations ontheir fins and stuff in this one.
And all of that is me.
Like I did all that animation on the idleanimation for the fish.
So, and then obviously the animatorsadjusted it accordingly, according like
for each shot and like animated on top ofit.
But them actually like floating andlooking like they're swimming is probably
about 90% my animation.
(43:57):
Is that actually Ellen?
Or did they get someone else?
It's not Ellen because there was somestuff going on with Ellen DeGeneres during
this.
Okay.
But Marlin is Marlin, right?
Yeah.
So Marlin's Marlin.
Mr. Ray is the same actor.
The person that plays Nemo's voice is thesame.
So is the idea, do you think?
(44:19):
I mean, I know you don't know,but like, are they going to do more
feature length Lego, like reboots?
I hope they do more shorts.
I think that would be fun.
I don't think they'll do Lego full lengthstuff.
Cause they did Lego Star Wars.
Yeah.
Did they?
Yeah.
That was actually our studio as well.
That did the Lego Star Wars shorts thatcame out recently.
(44:41):
And the Lego movie.
The Lego movie was not our studio,but yeah, they did do the Lego movie.
It would be cool if they did like a fulllength movie, but I don't know if they
would do that.
I just can't like, they look like Lego.
Yeah.
And I mean, they are Lego.
Like, I'm sure you could put that togetherif you wanted to.
My biggest hope, honestly, Brandon,is that they make real Lego sets for these
(45:03):
shorts, because I would buy every singleone of them.
I would love having all five of them andjust like put them in my office.
Did I show you the one we, my dad,we got my dad the Mustang?
Oh yeah.
Those are really cool.
The car ones.
Cause you could open the doors andeverything.
For Christmas, Michelle got me a retrocomputer.
I don't know if I showed it to you.
I don't think so.
I haven't been there since beforeChristmas.
(45:24):
That's true.
I made it on Boxing Day.
It took me like seven hours.
Holy crap.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
It was so much fun.
It's like a whole little monitor and akeyboard and a mouse.
Did you put it in the, in your office?
Yeah.
On one of the speakers.
I'm looking at it right now.
(45:46):
That's awesome.
It even has like, the screen looks likeWindows 95.
Yeah.
So when we have to animate all these likeLego bricks falling too, it's such a pain
in the ass, but it's worth it cause itlooks cool after it's done.
Are you laughing about the assembly guide?
Yeah.
It's like amazing.
Yeah.
It's really cool.
They do like a whole building the shipboat again thing with it.
(46:08):
Was that a bitch?
Not really.
I mean...
How do you, so how do you know what order,like, is that already done for you?
What do you mean?
What order the shots go in?
Like, yeah.
Like which bricks?
Well, I mean, we, we have to like bringthe stuff into the scenes and like place
it where we need it and stuff.
There was actually a huge pain in the asswith the, um, with the, this whole set
(46:31):
because, well, it's all built togethernow, but like with the broken ship set,
there was like a lot of issues with itbecause there was like set dress
everywhere that like needed to go incertain places and it kept like moving
around and we couldn't figure out why.
So, but a lot of that's done in layout orlike the previous departments.
And then we just adjusted accordingly tolike how we needed an animation.
And then you just like, like the assetsare already done.
(46:54):
Yeah.
So that's like separate departments.
Okay.
So like modeling models them and thenrigging, we'll put a skeleton in it so
that we're able to animate it.
Um, and then like compositing and stuffdoes all the eyes and like all the,
all the look of everything like completewhen it's done.
But I like how they like don't want todress her clear short-term memory loss.
(47:17):
Yeah.
They kind of ignore it for most of it.
It's pretty funny, but yeah, it is wildthough.
Like I remember when I was 13 and,um, Nemo came out like the actual movie
and it was like, it's, it's to this day,it's still one of my favorite Pixar
movies.
And then I get to work on something likethis, which is like all the same
characters and the same world,you know, but just with Lego.
I froze it on your name again.
(47:39):
Cause it's so cool.
I do it every time.
Every time I watch these or show people,I always pause it on my name.
It's awesome.
So you could put like a screenshot of thisif you want in the cliff notes for the
podcast too.
Oh, I'm making a screenshot right now.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's right there up at the top though.
Son of a...
Oh, go back.
(47:59):
But yeah, that's the two ones that I likehad the most influence on.
That is amazing.
It's pretty cool.
Right?
So yeah.
Hopefully, um, all of our loyal fans,you guys will go and take a look at these.
They're, they're 10 minutes each andthey're, they're, they're pretty great.
They're heartwarming and very funny.
(48:19):
And I have to say the animation is topshelf.
Well, thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
For, for what it's worth.
I know I'm not, uh, I feel like you have abit of a creative eye for that kind of
stuff anyway, but, um, yeah, that's that.
They're pretty cool.
Um, we're probably going to do a littlebit of, of some different stuff with our
(48:40):
podcast in the future.
So stay tuned.
We're excited about it.
We are reorganizing.
Yes.
That's the best way to put it.
So, um, but yeah, it's always fun andwe're going to probably try and get some
more of this in now that Brendan's donehis honeymoon and he's done dead getting
married and being an adult and all thatgood stuff.
So I still got to go on my honeymoon atsome point too, if Steph and I haven't
(49:02):
decided when we're going to do that,but Where are you going?
We want to go to Greece.
Oh, I went there.
Yeah.
But I mean, I might try and convince Stephto go on a Disney cruise.
Cause it sounds like it'd be really good.
We did a Virgin cruise.
It was, it was very, very good.
No kids.
Um, what else?
The food was incredible.
(49:23):
They had all these restaurants.
And so every night for dinner,you pick where you want to go.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
I'm going to look into it and see if I canlike book something and then be like,
Hey, Steph, guess what?
You're going on a cruise.
I don't know how her like seasick,like if she'd be seasick though,
cause she's got the stomach issues.
So it might be something that we need tolike talk about and see if it's okay,
(49:45):
but still it would be really fun.
I think it would be really cool to go on aDisney cruise, especially now that I can
tell people I animated on it on likeDisney productions and stuff, you know,
and not just be like making shit up.
That would be very cool.
Yeah.
That would be really cool.
But, um, I'm glad we were able to jump ontonight, buddy.
For sure.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait.
Oh no.
This has been another refined...
(50:07):
Nineties.
...Quick Hits.
Pixar Quick Hits.
Pixar Quick Hits.
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