September 22, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode of Reignite Resilience, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass sit down with Troy Casey, widely known as the Certified Health Nut. From his beginnings as a Versace model in Milan to decades of exploring indigenous healing, herbal medicine, fasting, and meditation, Troy shares his powerful journey of transformation. He opens up about overcoming addiction, studying with masters across the globe, and building a personal brand dedicated to natural health and resilience.
This conversation goes beyond health hacks. Troy challenges how we see wellness, beauty, and even societal structures, reminding us that awareness and alignment with nature are the foundation of true vitality.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
• Why autogenesis and autophagy matter for natural healing and longevity
• How early health challenges led Troy to study nutrition and herbal medicine
• Lessons from working with indigenous healers in the Amazon and Maori traditions
• The role meditation played in overcoming addiction and finding purpose
• Why consistent content creation built a long-term platform for his message
• The impact of toxins, synthetic fabrics, and modern lifestyle on our health
• Why personal responsibility and small daily actions create real resilience
• How beauty and vitality emerge from alignment with nature, not quick fixes
Key Quotes
“Living fully until the day you die is more important than chasing abstract longevity.” – Troy Casey
“Awareness is always the first step.” – Troy Casey
Reflect on where you are outsourcing your health. Start small: improve water, food quality, movement, or sleep. Every choice to align with nature strengthens your resiliency.
Connect with Troy Casey
Instagram: @certifiedhealthnut
Website: certifiedhealthnut.com
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Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All of us reach a point in time where we are
depleted and need to somehowfind a way to reignite the fire
within.
But how do we spark that flame?
Welcome to Reignite Resilience,where we will venture into the
heart of the human spirit.
Resilience where we willventure into the heart of the
(00:27):
human spirit.
We'll discuss the art ofreigniting our passion and
strategies to stoke ourenthusiasm.
And now here are your hosts,natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome back to another episode of Reignite
Resilience.
I am your co-host, natalieDavis, and I am so excited to be
back, and joining me, of course, is your co-host, pam Kass.
Hello, pam, how are you?
I'm fabulous.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm just laughing because you just reminded me
that I was in a retreat thislast week.
And how did I forget?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
that I was in a three-day retreat.
I don't know, but for the lastthree days I've been sitting on
the edge of my like I didn'twant to just reach out and talk
to you about it because I wantedto save it for the show and I'm
like I'm dying to hear, becauseit was actually the segment of
the retreat that you weren'tnecessarily looking forward to
the most You're like I'm gladthis one's last because we don't
need to talk about it or it'snot really a priority, yes, yeah
(01:23):
.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I kept pushing it out and you know it was really
really good.
So the retreat was calledUnshakable Love.
So it's this part of this yearlong program and I you guys know
I did the Unshakable InnerPeace, which was a silent
retreat for three days which Isurvived.
This one was just reallyinteresting and it was very much
about tapping into yourfeminine presence versus your
(01:43):
masculine presence, and so wedid a lot of activities and one
in particular where we got intoour feminine presence and I had
a really hard time with that.
So we had to go up to a man whowas in his masculine.
You had to go up in yourfeminine and then just stand
there and every time I likestart crying, I'm like what is
wrong with me?
(02:04):
And I was talking to RachelJane about it and I was like you
know, I don't even understandthis.
And then it kind of dawned onme.
I was like you know, I've beendivorced for like 10 years,
single mom, and so I was themasculine and feminine in my
space.
I've been it for like 10 yearsand I would say probably in my
marriage too, and so justletting that go and just being
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totally in your feminine, it wasso vulnerable and like it was
very uncomfortable.
But you know, I've been doingthis retreat with these same
women and gentlemen for a yearnow and you are in such a safe
space.
I'm like will I be able to doit in public?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To be honest the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You absolutely will.
I'll see, but it was good and Ithink we'll do an episode and
we'll completely unpack theretreat, so for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm looking forward to that.
Well, I'm glad that you enjoyedit, I'm glad that it went well,
and you're absolutely right, Ithink when we give ourselves
that space to just be in ourfeminine, it's interesting that
you talk about, like theresponse that you had, being one
that you like start to cry,because our natural response
when we're uncomfortable is notto cry but to just laugh
uncontrollably, and so that'skind of our defense coming back
(03:16):
up instead of, you know, justsettling into the feminine.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So good, but when you have a male in their masculine,
which is truly in theirmasculine nurturing it makes you
feel very like vulnerable.
So if it had been you standingin front of me, I wouldn't have
even made it through a second ofit.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I have no desire of standing in front of you in my
masculine.
So it's fine, you're good.
If you do, it's over.
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I am excited for ourepisode that we're.
I get excited for all of ourepisodes.
What I mean?
Who am I kidding?
If you listen to all of them,I'm like I'm excited about our
guest today.
I'm always excited because weget the opportunity, we have the
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privilege of really meetingsome phenomenal people around
the world, and I think today isno exception for our guests.
That's joining us and, and Ijust want to share with our
listeners, there are thesemoments that I am scrolling and
what may seem like doomscrolling online and I will
connect with people and I think,well, I connect to their
content and then, in turn,connecting to the individual and
(04:14):
I think you know what.
I think that our listenerswould really enjoy hearing from
them, and this has been a win, Ithink, for me.
I was sharing before we startedrecording Three for three.
I've connected with people thatI only know virtually online,
through either TikTok orInstagram.
I reach out and three out ofthe three have all said yes, and
today is one of those guests.
So, pam, why don't you tell ourlisteners who's joining us
(04:37):
today so we can dive in.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Absolutely.
I am very excited about this.
So we have leading longevityauthority.
Troy Casey, certified healthnut, has successfully restored
physical, mental and emotionalbalance to clients who have
failed with all other systems.
His unique holistic approachuses nature-based simplicity
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anyone can follow.
As a Versace model in Milan,italy, 30 years ago, troy
studied nutrition, herbs andinternational purification as a
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way hunter, studying the ancientVipassana I probably said that
wrong meditation techniques,ashtanga yoga and more recently
at the world famous CzechInstitute, working closely with
Paul Czech.
Welcome, so excited for you tobe here and I can't wait to dive
(05:48):
in.
And so usually what we do is wehand it off to our guests for
them to kind of just start alittle bit and then we'll kind
of go from there.
So welcome Troy.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Thank you so much for having me on.
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, absolutely Well , troy, you are known by many as
the certified health nut, butfrom listening to your bio, it
didn't start there.
Talk to us about this journey,this exploration into
understanding, like the natural,homeopathic, holistic ways of
just letting our body do whatour bodies do well in the
(06:19):
survival mode.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Well, natural healing or the body healing itself, is
called autogenesis, and actually, through fasting we've got a
process called autophagy and sowhere the body scavenges the
dead cells and optimizes thesystem.
And so I started studyingnutrition 35 years ago.
I was in Milan, italy.
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I was a Versace model and haddigestive issues, you know, like
we see with a lot of peopletoday.
I took antibiotics in my babybook.
Right after my wellness visits,my childhood injections, I had
these massive earaches and atone point I was hospitalized and
then they gave me antibioticsfor it.
(07:02):
So, you know, is it theindustrial age, you know,
medical system that you knowhammered my gut?
Is it the Captain Crunch andPop-Tarts that I grew up on?
You know what exactly is it.
You know, also, we have theindustrial waste and the burning
of fossil fuels, and not onlythat, but the brake dust.
(07:23):
I made a video recently, youknow, I bought a brand new car
and, you know, within days I hadjust massive amounts of brake
dust on my rims and the tiresthat wear out.
In any big city.
We're all breathing this stuffin, you know, and there's
bioaccumulation of toxicity, etcetera.
And so I started studyingfasting, herbal medicine,
internal purification, just waysto really optimize the body,
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the mind, the blood, the skin,the hairs, make sure everything
pops.
I was on camera and so choosingto look and feel my best, you
know, as a fashion model.
You take off your shirt, dounderwear and all sorts of you
know, fashion campaigns andstuff, and so having a good body
and being fit and being super,super good looking whatever the
(08:10):
Zoolander guy says.
And so the bottom line is I wasmotivated to look and feel my
best as a career, and so Ipracticed a lot of nutrition,
which I knew nothing aboutgrowing up.
As an American Went to my firstfarmer's market in Italy
they're everywhere, by the way,but I had never been to one so I
started buying real whole foods, fruits and vegetables, and I
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got instant results.
And so, 35 years later, I'vescoured the planet looking for
the best of the best and workingon healing myself and keeping
myself.
I've still got a career infront of the camera 35 years and
so always looking to look andfeel my best.
And now that I'm getting olderI'll be 60 this year I want to
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be moving until the day that Idie.
It's not so much necessarilybiohacking or longevity or any
of these linguistic terms wehave.
It's living until the day youdie right, and I'm very active,
I move throughout the day and sofor 35 years I studied
indigenous wisdom, literature,herbalism in the Amazon
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rainforest, working with Maorihealers, their midwives and they
call them the bone crushersbecause they'll actually reset
bones and very powerfulspiritual healers, and I
practice Vipassana with SNgoenka 10-day courses of
meditation and silence.
I'm actually about to go sitanother one.
I haven't sat one in many yearsand this will be the 12th one
(09:39):
I've sat and that actuallyhelped me with alcoholism
because I had a rockstar phasewhen I was in the fashion
industry and just jet settingand traveling and drugs and
alcohol were everywhere and Ididn't know who I was and I
wasn't living my purpose and soI got really wrapped up in that
and meditation.
Really it set me free and thenit's just been unfolding ever
(10:01):
since.
I worked with an herbal companyin the Amazon, drank ayahuasca
with the Shipibo Indians.
I had natural childbirth, didall the research on the trauma
my parents were fist fightingwhen I was in the womb.
So I researched a lot and I'vebeen able to advocate for
birthing and fertility andnatural environments, all
aspects of natural medicine,holistic health, healing I'm a
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guinea pig on the front lines.
I just did a conscious languagebody electronics retreat for my
students.
One of my students is afacilitator in that realm and
I've always wanted to do bodyelectronics just releasing old
trauma patterns that store inthe body and we're all electric
and so when you put hands on, itallows these old emotions to
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come through the fascia andoutside of the body and I
witnessed miracles.
And it reminded me of workingwith the Maori healers as well,
because they would travel fiveor six healers at a time and you
know, 50 people would come in aday and it was all hands-on and
I was often asked to help putyour hands here, put your hands
there.
And so, 35 years later, I lovesharing this information with as
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many people as I possibly canon the internet.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's amazing.
So much to unpack.
To unpack 100% yes.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
How long did you do the modeling and then when did
you get of that and what did yougo into from that space?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It was recordings at Esalen in the 60s.
I don't know if you've everdone any of his work or read any
of it, but it was just a lot ofdream therapy and body language
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reading as well.
But ultimately he was all aboutnot bullshitting yourself and
he would call it elephant shit.
Right, just the stories and thedrama that human beings will
create instead of just dealingwith what is.
And the drama that human beingswill create instead of just
dealing with what is, and sothat really helped me wake up to
.
I was in an industry that wasrobbing my soul.
(12:07):
There was an undercurrent ofthe Diddy Party Epstein list
going on, in fact, many of thepeople that were implicated
through Models One, the guy inParis I knew a lot of the people
in that circle and then, Ithink, abercrombie and Fitch and
Bruce Weber, which was the bigCalvin Klein photographer of
that time.
There was plenty of games beingplayed.
(12:28):
I never saw that firsthand, butI experienced a gatekeeping
around that.
Even though I had a really goodresume and four Versace
campaigns, I could only get sofar, and so drugs and alcohol
were all around me and I justkept drinking and I knew I had
to sober up from that and then Iread that Gestalt Therapy
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verbatim book and I startedworking on myself and I still
lingered in and out of thebusiness various contracts in
Japan and stuff for a couple ofyears, but seven years
professionally going around theworld, living in Miami and Milan
and Paris and Tokyo, and then Imoved into film.
I thought film was going to bemore based on my merits and my
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talent and I went to theaterschool and really trained from
the bottom up.
I did a lot of standup andimprovisation comedy and so it
was still plenty of gatekeepingand weirdness in that industry.
It's just the fashion industryis known for the most game
playing.
I had a friend, simon Rex.
I helped him get off drugs andhelped him get healthy when he
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was ending his rap career.
So he was a rapper musicindustry model.
He was an actor and TV and filmand he said the fashion
industry was the most messed upand we've all heard how crazy
the music industry is right, andso I thought that was
interesting that he said that Imoved into film, tv, mainly
(13:54):
television commercials and thenI started working with an herbal
company from the Amazon.
That would have been 2005.
So from 1999, I started workingwith an herbal company from the
Amazon.
That would have been 2005.
So from 1999, I startedmeditating with Vipassana and SN
Goenka and then kind of all myyoga stuff and continued my
herbal studies and fasting and Iwas sober during that time and
(14:15):
working with these Maori healersand those were my big three
wake up calls the meditation,the Maori healers and started
posting a lot of alternativehealth content and that was the
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basis of my whole platform andthat was 2006.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Were you able to identify or really dial into
your purpose during that time?
Because, I mean, just YouTubeexisted and I don't think that
people utilize that as aplatform to actually help people
or share a bigger message thatwould have an impact on their
lives.
So for you to come out withthat footage and finding that
(15:10):
platform to utilize it, was thatan alignment with understanding
what you needed to do, or wereyou still on that journey of
figuring it out?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I think it was a journey of discovery.
Ultimately, I definitely wasliving on purpose, because the
years previous to that, we weredeveloping Certified Health Nut
for a television show, and it'shard to film healing and making
it entertaining, especially inthe age of reality TV, which is
not reality.
It's basically a bunch ofcasting directors.
Driving people crazy is whatthey're doing.
(15:38):
I just got off a phone callfrom somebody from Hollywood,
and the production company isowned by George Soros family
type of thing, and so this isjust manipulation, and I let
them know that they're probablynot going to hire me because I'm
going to only tell the truthand I'm not going to come out of
my center.
I auditioned for Survivor, Ithink in 2010, and the
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manipulation was incredible.
I found myself talking tomyself.
Then there was this cowboy overthere and he was talking to
himself and I'm like, am I crazy?
This is making me crazy.
And so, because they would say,like, well, what's your
strategy going to be?
Oh, that won't work, that'sstupid, people have tried that
before and I'm like, really Likethey were just manipulating.
(16:20):
So, yeah, then I was justdisillusioned with TV and social
media kept going.
I didn't really know where itwould end up, but I kept doing
what I loved, which was puttingtogether creatively videos.
People don't understand theediting process and there's good
editing software now, but eachyou know it's a lot of work,
(16:41):
right, and so you know I and Ilearned editing on an iMac, you
know, back in 2006, 2007.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Troy, were you capturing and editing?
You were doing everything, fullproduction.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Your hands were on it I did full production all the
way into 2021, wow, and towardsthe end I you know, enough
traction, a lot of handheldstuff, and I try to do zero
editing is what I do, the onetake thing and so and that's an
art form within itself, butbetween doing stories and maybe
(17:14):
a LinkedIn post or a Twitterpost, I was doing it all up
until about 2021.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's impressive.
That's a long stretch.
I don't think that people havethe know-it-all or the stamina
to continue to do that for thisamount of time.
You know to do that for an 11,12 year stint of time.
That's.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Especially when it wasn't always delivering money
and your partner at the time islike well, what are you doing
online?
And you and you need to makemore money over here or there or
whatever.
And now I'm talking toproduction companies, I'm
talking to other brands andpeople really understand the
value and I haven't even fullycome out of the foundation that
(17:55):
I've been building, but I've got20 years of brand building and
that's untouchable.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Not too many people have that what was that vision
for Certified Health Net, I mean, coming out, you had tons of
content that you created and Ifeel that it's kind of expanded
into a variety of areas, butwhat was your original vision
and where is that now?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
So when I drank ayahuasca in the Amazon in 2006,
I had three very powerfulvisions.
One was an amalgamation of myon-camera career, my natural
medicine studies and I was doingstand-up at the time and
Certified health.
Nut was crystallized then andthere laughed out loud right in
the middle of ceremony.
And so the second vision, thespirit of my daughter, came to
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me, and I wasn't married at thetime.
It was a very powerful femininespirit and so she was born like
four years later.
And then the third vision I hadwas that humanity makes it from
the precipice of ecologicaldisaster.
And when I was leaving theAmazon that time, I saw a
mountain of sawdust and two byfours on barges going up to Home
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Depot economic hitman from JohnPerkins, where it detailed the
destruction of the rainforestand other ecosystems for the
exploration of oil and the debtslave lending from the World
Bank and the IMF and taking thenatural resources out of lands.
And if they didn't adhere tothe economic hitman, they send
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in the jackals or the coupd'etats, rwanda.
And if they didn't adhere tothat level, then Afghanistan,
iraq, syria, libya.
The American military justshowed up and took over.
And so and this is the way ofthe world and it's detailed in
that book.
And then, of course, I've takenmany red pills since then and
it's layers right.
The world war has never stopped.
(19:45):
It's called psychologicalwarfare through MKUltra and
Mockingbird, media andpropaganda which was developed
in the early 20th century, andso we've just been under a spell
, and that's why they can poisonthe water, they can poison the
children's food, they can poisonour food, they can poison the
environment.
You call it business, or youcall it clandestine control, or
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the Nephilim or the, an Anunnakior some alien race trying to
enslave.
I don't care what you call it,but it stops on my watch.
Yeah Right, I'm all over itlike white on rice.
So, and the first step isawareness, awareness is always
the first step, and we're beinggaslit at such a high level on
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every level.
And now we're seeing this evenwith Charlie Kirk.
You know, the man died in frontof his children and no matter
what you say, whether it's racebaiting or men, women or trans,
or Israel or Gaza, you basicallycan't say anything and it's
complete division amongst thepeople.
And if you understandpsychological warfare, that is
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the game plan is to pit thepeople against themselves.
So the jig is up and all weneed is humans for needs water,
food, shelter and fire and we'refocused on all this plastic
crap from China and theKardashian playbook.
Right, and it's like we cancreate peace and harmony on this
planet.
We will need to come togetherat one point or another, but the
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thing is is you don't needeveryone else.
If you vote with your dollarsand invest your money on your
own vitality, virility, victory,and you will have some
assemblance of peace and harmonyin yourself.
When enough people are doingthat, that reverberates out to
everyone.
And then, of course, no, don'tpoison the water.
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That's not a good idea, right?
We don't need RFK to fight allthis corporate crime for decades
and decades with two lawdegrees.
No, no, don't poison the water.
The children are playing inthere, right?
Oh, no, that's not a good idea.
To poison the sky, no, why dowe have to?
No, we don't have to do that.
We can do things in a better way.
We've always had innovation,invention.
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We can change the things.
The crazy ones are always theones who thought that they could
go change the world.
Right, and they always have.
Those are the ones, the smallamount of people that have.
And so when I'm done with whatI'm doing in the media is simply
get people to start questioningreality, and then we're being
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sold this idea of beauty.
But the fact of the matter isbeauty comes from nature.
When we align with nature, thenatural symmetry comes in our
body, mind and consciousness andit exudes as a vibration, not
as some kind of plastic crap ortoxic crap on our body.
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Just look at the polyesterclothing we're wearing and that
ends up in the oceans in Ghana,and Ghana is part of the
Atlantic, which is part of Miami.
There's no throwing it away.
And so we get to dream up thenext level of consciousness, and
I'm an eternal optimist.
So my third vision is thathumanity makes it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, love that.
I love that, troy, that's, it'ssuch a for me.
I fully embrace that and that'smy hope and desire as well.
But I think I mean, even as youmentioned, like polyester
clothing and I, before coming tounderstand like the vibrational
frequency of fabric or notfabric, and looking at polyester
, was one of my favorite typesof fabric because it was easy
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and I travel a lot and it packswell and and not realizing
Exactly.
And who doesn't want that Right, like it's easy, exactly, and
who doesn't want that right,like it's easy?
But I think, as you talk about,like this, the opportunity that
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we have, like as we invest inourselves again and realizing
how much control we really havein that space, it unknown around
that looking and feelingdifferent, how can you speak to
that for individuals that don'tknow?
Because we're comfortable withthe things that we're
comfortable with, right, I mean,that's just the reality.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Right.
And what is the reality?
Statistically, 75% of theAmerican people are obese or
overweight.
Nine out of 10 Americans aremetabolically dysfunctional.
The number two killer amongstchildren 14 to 21 is suicide.
So we have a wake-up call,ladies and gentlemen.
This is a clarion call to allhuman beings.
We know this to be true.
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Now we can mow over it withsome entertainment television
shows, video games, makeup,deodorant, Entertainment.
Television shows, video games,makeup, deodorant, day, late
fragrance, mop our floors withFabuloso and new and improved
Tide.
But this is just covering upthe truth, Right, and the truth
(24:43):
is, this is our divineconnection and our divine nature
.
We can let everything fall tothe wayside when we understand
and have some form of agreement.
At least for myself, hey, Idon't want to have neck pain and
back pain and obesity and gutdysfunction and inflammation.
I'm in my 30s and the doctorwants to take out my thyroid or
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my gallbladder or this or that,and they want me on 15
medications.
And what are in thosemedications?
This toxin and that toxin andthis metal and that metal.
And I already feel like crap.
And then you want me to takemore crap.
Oh well, maybe I can startdreaming up beyond this cycle.
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Resilience.
All of us reach a point in time where we are
depleted and need to somehowfind a way to reignite the fire
within.
But how do we spark that flame?
Welcome to Reignite Resilience,where we will venture into the
heart of the human spirit.
Resilience where we willventure into the heart of the
(00:27):
human spirit.
We'll discuss the art ofreigniting our passion and
strategies to stoke ourenthusiasm.
And now here are your hosts,natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome back to another episode of Reignite
Resilience.
I am your co-host, natalieDavis, and I am so excited to be
back, and joining me, of course, is your co-host, pam Kass.
Hello, pam, how are you?
I'm fabulous.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm just laughing because you just reminded me
that I was in a retreat thislast week.
And how did I forget?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
that I was in a three-day retreat.
I don't know, but for the lastthree days I've been sitting on
the edge of my like I didn'twant to just reach out and talk
to you about it because I wantedto save it for the show and I'm
like I'm dying to hear, becauseit was actually the segment of
the retreat that you weren'tnecessarily looking forward to
the most You're like I'm gladthis one's last because we don't
need to talk about it or it'snot really a priority, yes, yeah
(01:23):
.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I kept pushing it out and you know it was really
really good.
So the retreat was calledUnshakable Love.
So it's this part of this yearlong program and I you guys know
I did the Unshakable InnerPeace, which was a silent
retreat for three days which Isurvived.
This one was just reallyinteresting and it was very much
about tapping into yourfeminine presence versus your
(01:43):
masculine presence, and so wedid a lot of activities and one
in particular where we got intoour feminine presence and I had
a really hard time with that.
So we had to go up to a man whowas in his masculine.
You had to go up in yourfeminine and then just stand
there and every time I likestart crying, I'm like what is
wrong with me?
(02:04):
And I was talking to RachelJane about it and I was like you
know, I don't even understandthis.
And then it kind of dawned onme.
I was like you know, I've beendivorced for like 10 years,
single mom, and so I was themasculine and feminine in my
space.
I've been it for like 10 yearsand I would say probably in my
marriage too, and so justletting that go and just being
(02:26):
totally in your feminine, it wasso vulnerable and like it was
very uncomfortable.
But you know, I've been doingthis retreat with these same
women and gentlemen for a yearnow and you are in such a safe
space.
I'm like will I be able to doit in public?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To be honest the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You absolutely will.
I'll see, but it was good and Ithink we'll do an episode and
we'll completely unpack theretreat, so for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm looking forward to that.
Well, I'm glad that you enjoyedit, I'm glad that it went well,
and you're absolutely right, Ithink when we give ourselves
that space to just be in ourfeminine, it's interesting that
you talk about, like theresponse that you had, being one
that you like start to cry,because our natural response
when we're uncomfortable is notto cry but to just laugh
uncontrollably, and so that'skind of our defense coming back
(03:16):
up instead of, you know, justsettling into the feminine.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So good, but when you have a male in their masculine,
which is truly in theirmasculine nurturing it makes you
feel very like vulnerable.
So if it had been you standingin front of me, I wouldn't have
even made it through a second ofit.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I have no desire of standing in front of you in my
masculine.
So it's fine, you're good.
If you do, it's over.
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I am excited for ourepisode that we're.
I get excited for all of ourepisodes.
What I mean?
Who am I kidding?
If you listen to all of them,I'm like I'm excited about our
guest today.
I'm always excited because weget the opportunity, we have the
(03:53):
privilege of really meetingsome phenomenal people around
the world, and I think today isno exception for our guests.
That's joining us and, and Ijust want to share with our
listeners, there are thesemoments that I am scrolling and
what may seem like doomscrolling online and I will
connect with people and I think,well, I connect to their
content and then, in turn,connecting to the individual and
(04:14):
I think you know what.
I think that our listenerswould really enjoy hearing from
them, and this has been a win, Ithink, for me.
I was sharing before we startedrecording Three for three.
I've connected with people thatI only know virtually online,
through either TikTok orInstagram.
I reach out and three out ofthe three have all said yes, and
today is one of those guests.
So, pam, why don't you tell ourlisteners who's joining us
(04:37):
today so we can dive in.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Absolutely.
I am very excited about this.
So we have leading longevityauthority.
Troy Casey, certified healthnut, has successfully restored
physical, mental and emotionalbalance to clients who have
failed with all other systems.
His unique holistic approachuses nature-based simplicity
(05:01):
anyone can follow.
As a Versace model in Milan,italy, 30 years ago, troy
studied nutrition, herbs andinternational purification as a
(05:24):
way hunter, studying the ancientVipassana I probably said that
wrong meditation techniques,ashtanga yoga and more recently
at the world famous CzechInstitute, working closely with
Paul Czech.
Welcome, so excited for you tobe here and I can't wait to dive
(05:48):
in.
And so usually what we do is wehand it off to our guests for
them to kind of just start alittle bit and then we'll kind
of go from there.
So welcome Troy.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Thank you so much for having me on.
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, absolutely Well , troy, you are known by many as
the certified health nut, butfrom listening to your bio, it
didn't start there.
Talk to us about this journey,this exploration into
understanding, like the natural,homeopathic, holistic ways of
just letting our body do whatour bodies do well in the
(06:19):
survival mode.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Well, natural healing or the body healing itself, is
called autogenesis, and actually, through fasting we've got a
process called autophagy and sowhere the body scavenges the
dead cells and optimizes thesystem.
And so I started studyingnutrition 35 years ago.
I was in Milan, italy.
(06:41):
I was a Versace model and haddigestive issues, you know, like
we see with a lot of peopletoday.
I took antibiotics in my babybook.
Right after my wellness visits,my childhood injections, I had
these massive earaches and atone point I was hospitalized and
then they gave me antibioticsfor it.
(07:02):
So, you know, is it theindustrial age, you know,
medical system that you knowhammered my gut?
Is it the Captain Crunch andPop-Tarts that I grew up on?
You know what exactly is it.
You know, also, we have theindustrial waste and the burning
of fossil fuels, and not onlythat, but the brake dust.
(07:23):
I made a video recently, youknow, I bought a brand new car
and, you know, within days I hadjust massive amounts of brake
dust on my rims and the tiresthat wear out.
In any big city.
We're all breathing this stuffin, you know, and there's
bioaccumulation of toxicity, etcetera.
And so I started studyingfasting, herbal medicine,
internal purification, just waysto really optimize the body,
(07:47):
the mind, the blood, the skin,the hairs, make sure everything
pops.
I was on camera and so choosingto look and feel my best, you
know, as a fashion model.
You take off your shirt, dounderwear and all sorts of you
know, fashion campaigns andstuff, and so having a good body
and being fit and being super,super good looking whatever the
(08:10):
Zoolander guy says.
And so the bottom line is I wasmotivated to look and feel my
best as a career, and so Ipracticed a lot of nutrition,
which I knew nothing aboutgrowing up.
As an American Went to my firstfarmer's market in Italy
they're everywhere, by the way,but I had never been to one so I
started buying real whole foods, fruits and vegetables, and I
(08:33):
got instant results.
And so, 35 years later, I'vescoured the planet looking for
the best of the best and workingon healing myself and keeping
myself.
I've still got a career infront of the camera 35 years and
so always looking to look andfeel my best.
And now that I'm getting olderI'll be 60 this year I want to
(08:55):
be moving until the day that Idie.
It's not so much necessarilybiohacking or longevity or any
of these linguistic terms wehave.
It's living until the day youdie right, and I'm very active,
I move throughout the day and sofor 35 years I studied
indigenous wisdom, literature,herbalism in the Amazon
(09:17):
rainforest, working with Maorihealers, their midwives and they
call them the bone crushersbecause they'll actually reset
bones and very powerfulspiritual healers, and I
practice Vipassana with SNgoenka 10-day courses of
meditation and silence.
I'm actually about to go sitanother one.
I haven't sat one in many yearsand this will be the 12th one
(09:39):
I've sat and that actuallyhelped me with alcoholism
because I had a rockstar phasewhen I was in the fashion
industry and just jet settingand traveling and drugs and
alcohol were everywhere and Ididn't know who I was and I
wasn't living my purpose and soI got really wrapped up in that
and meditation.
Really it set me free and thenit's just been unfolding ever
(10:01):
since.
I worked with an herbal companyin the Amazon, drank ayahuasca
with the Shipibo Indians.
I had natural childbirth, didall the research on the trauma
my parents were fist fightingwhen I was in the womb.
So I researched a lot and I'vebeen able to advocate for
birthing and fertility andnatural environments, all
aspects of natural medicine,holistic health, healing I'm a
(10:25):
guinea pig on the front lines.
I just did a conscious languagebody electronics retreat for my
students.
One of my students is afacilitator in that realm and
I've always wanted to do bodyelectronics just releasing old
trauma patterns that store inthe body and we're all electric
and so when you put hands on, itallows these old emotions to
(10:47):
come through the fascia andoutside of the body and I
witnessed miracles.
And it reminded me of workingwith the Maori healers as well,
because they would travel fiveor six healers at a time and you
know, 50 people would come in aday and it was all hands-on and
I was often asked to help putyour hands here, put your hands
there.
And so, 35 years later, I lovesharing this information with as
(11:10):
many people as I possibly canon the internet.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's amazing.
So much to unpack.
To unpack 100% yes.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
How long did you do the modeling and then when did
you get of that and what did yougo into from that space?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It was recordings at Esalen in the 60s.
I don't know if you've everdone any of his work or read any
of it, but it was just a lot ofdream therapy and body language
(11:47):
reading as well.
But ultimately he was all aboutnot bullshitting yourself and
he would call it elephant shit.
Right, just the stories and thedrama that human beings will
create instead of just dealingwith what is.
And the drama that human beingswill create instead of just
dealing with what is, and sothat really helped me wake up to
.
I was in an industry that wasrobbing my soul.
(12:07):
There was an undercurrent ofthe Diddy Party Epstein list
going on, in fact, many of thepeople that were implicated
through Models One, the guy inParis I knew a lot of the people
in that circle and then, Ithink, abercrombie and Fitch and
Bruce Weber, which was the bigCalvin Klein photographer of
that time.
There was plenty of games beingplayed.
(12:28):
I never saw that firsthand, butI experienced a gatekeeping
around that.
Even though I had a really goodresume and four Versace
campaigns, I could only get sofar, and so drugs and alcohol
were all around me and I justkept drinking and I knew I had
to sober up from that and then Iread that Gestalt Therapy
(12:49):
verbatim book and I startedworking on myself and I still
lingered in and out of thebusiness various contracts in
Japan and stuff for a couple ofyears, but seven years
professionally going around theworld, living in Miami and Milan
and Paris and Tokyo, and then Imoved into film.
I thought film was going to bemore based on my merits and my
(13:11):
talent and I went to theaterschool and really trained from
the bottom up.
I did a lot of standup andimprovisation comedy and so it
was still plenty of gatekeepingand weirdness in that industry.
It's just the fashion industryis known for the most game
playing.
I had a friend, simon Rex.
I helped him get off drugs andhelped him get healthy when he
(13:31):
was ending his rap career.
So he was a rapper musicindustry model.
He was an actor and TV and filmand he said the fashion
industry was the most messed upand we've all heard how crazy
the music industry is right, andso I thought that was
interesting that he said that Imoved into film, tv, mainly
(13:54):
television commercials and thenI started working with an herbal
company from the Amazon.
That would have been 2005.
So from 1999, I started workingwith an herbal company from the
Amazon.
That would have been 2005.
So from 1999, I startedmeditating with Vipassana and SN
Goenka and then kind of all myyoga stuff and continued my
herbal studies and fasting and Iwas sober during that time and
(14:15):
working with these Maori healersand those were my big three
wake up calls the meditation,the Maori healers and started
posting a lot of alternativehealth content and that was the
(14:44):
basis of my whole platform andthat was 2006.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Were you able to identify or really dial into
your purpose during that time?
Because, I mean, just YouTubeexisted and I don't think that
people utilize that as aplatform to actually help people
or share a bigger message thatwould have an impact on their
lives.
So for you to come out withthat footage and finding that
(15:10):
platform to utilize it, was thatan alignment with understanding
what you needed to do, or wereyou still on that journey of
figuring it out?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I think it was a journey of discovery.
Ultimately, I definitely wasliving on purpose, because the
years previous to that, we weredeveloping Certified Health Nut
for a television show, and it'shard to film healing and making
it entertaining, especially inthe age of reality TV, which is
not reality.
It's basically a bunch ofcasting directors.
Driving people crazy is whatthey're doing.
(15:38):
I just got off a phone callfrom somebody from Hollywood,
and the production company isowned by George Soros family
type of thing, and so this isjust manipulation, and I let
them know that they're probablynot going to hire me because I'm
going to only tell the truthand I'm not going to come out of
my center.
I auditioned for Survivor, Ithink in 2010, and the
(15:58):
manipulation was incredible.
I found myself talking tomyself.
Then there was this cowboy overthere and he was talking to
himself and I'm like, am I crazy?
This is making me crazy.
And so, because they would say,like, well, what's your
strategy going to be?
Oh, that won't work, that'sstupid, people have tried that
before and I'm like, really Likethey were just manipulating.
(16:20):
So, yeah, then I was justdisillusioned with TV and social
media kept going.
I didn't really know where itwould end up, but I kept doing
what I loved, which was puttingtogether creatively videos.
People don't understand theediting process and there's good
editing software now, but eachyou know it's a lot of work,
(16:41):
right, and so you know I and Ilearned editing on an iMac, you
know, back in 2006, 2007.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Troy, were you capturing and editing?
You were doing everything, fullproduction.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Your hands were on it I did full production all the
way into 2021, wow, and towardsthe end I you know, enough
traction, a lot of handheldstuff, and I try to do zero
editing is what I do, the onetake thing and so and that's an
art form within itself, butbetween doing stories and maybe
(17:14):
a LinkedIn post or a Twitterpost, I was doing it all up
until about 2021.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's impressive.
That's a long stretch.
I don't think that people havethe know-it-all or the stamina
to continue to do that for thisamount of time.
You know to do that for an 11,12 year stint of time.
That's.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Especially when it wasn't always delivering money
and your partner at the time islike well, what are you doing
online?
And you and you need to makemore money over here or there or
whatever.
And now I'm talking toproduction companies, I'm
talking to other brands andpeople really understand the
value and I haven't even fullycome out of the foundation that
(17:55):
I've been building, but I've got20 years of brand building and
that's untouchable.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Not too many people have that what was that vision
for Certified Health Net, I mean, coming out, you had tons of
content that you created and Ifeel that it's kind of expanded
into a variety of areas, butwhat was your original vision
and where is that now?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
So when I drank ayahuasca in the Amazon in 2006,
I had three very powerfulvisions.
One was an amalgamation of myon-camera career, my natural
medicine studies and I was doingstand-up at the time and
Certified health.
Nut was crystallized then andthere laughed out loud right in
the middle of ceremony.
And so the second vision, thespirit of my daughter, came to
(18:38):
me, and I wasn't married at thetime.
It was a very powerful femininespirit and so she was born like
four years later.
And then the third vision I hadwas that humanity makes it from
the precipice of ecologicaldisaster.
And when I was leaving theAmazon that time, I saw a
mountain of sawdust and two byfours on barges going up to Home
(19:01):
Depot economic hitman from JohnPerkins, where it detailed the
destruction of the rainforestand other ecosystems for the
exploration of oil and the debtslave lending from the World
Bank and the IMF and taking thenatural resources out of lands.
And if they didn't adhere tothe economic hitman, they send
(19:24):
in the jackals or the coupd'etats, rwanda.
And if they didn't adhere tothat level, then Afghanistan,
iraq, syria, libya.
The American military justshowed up and took over.
And so and this is the way ofthe world and it's detailed in
that book.
And then, of course, I've takenmany red pills since then and
it's layers right.
The world war has never stopped.
(19:45):
It's called psychologicalwarfare through MKUltra and
Mockingbird, media andpropaganda which was developed
in the early 20th century, andso we've just been under a spell
, and that's why they can poisonthe water, they can poison the
children's food, they can poisonour food, they can poison the
environment.
You call it business, or youcall it clandestine control, or
(20:07):
the Nephilim or the, an Anunnakior some alien race trying to
enslave.
I don't care what you call it,but it stops on my watch.
Yeah Right, I'm all over itlike white on rice.
So, and the first step isawareness, awareness is always
the first step, and we're beinggaslit at such a high level on
(20:27):
every level.
And now we're seeing this evenwith Charlie Kirk.
You know, the man died in frontof his children and no matter
what you say, whether it's racebaiting or men, women or trans,
or Israel or Gaza, you basicallycan't say anything and it's
complete division amongst thepeople.
And if you understandpsychological warfare, that is
(20:49):
the game plan is to pit thepeople against themselves.
So the jig is up and all weneed is humans for needs water,
food, shelter and fire and we'refocused on all this plastic
crap from China and theKardashian playbook.
Right, and it's like we cancreate peace and harmony on this
planet.
We will need to come togetherat one point or another, but the
(21:11):
thing is is you don't needeveryone else.
If you vote with your dollarsand invest your money on your
own vitality, virility, victory,and you will have some
assemblance of peace and harmonyin yourself.
When enough people are doingthat, that reverberates out to
everyone.
And then, of course, no, don'tpoison the water.
(21:31):
That's not a good idea, right?
We don't need RFK to fight allthis corporate crime for decades
and decades with two lawdegrees.
No, no, don't poison the water.
The children are playing inthere, right?
Oh, no, that's not a good idea.
To poison the sky, no, why dowe have to?
No, we don't have to do that.
We can do things in a better way.
We've always had innovation,invention.
(21:54):
We can change the things.
The crazy ones are always theones who thought that they could
go change the world.
Right, and they always have.
Those are the ones, the smallamount of people that have.
And so when I'm done with whatI'm doing in the media is simply
get people to start questioningreality, and then we're being
(22:14):
sold this idea of beauty.
But the fact of the matter isbeauty comes from nature.
When we align with nature, thenatural symmetry comes in our
body, mind and consciousness andit exudes as a vibration, not
as some kind of plastic crap ortoxic crap on our body.
(22:35):
Just look at the polyesterclothing we're wearing and that
ends up in the oceans in Ghana,and Ghana is part of the
Atlantic, which is part of Miami.
There's no throwing it away.
And so we get to dream up thenext level of consciousness, and
I'm an eternal optimist.
So my third vision is thathumanity makes it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, love that.
I love that, troy, that's, it'ssuch a for me.
I fully embrace that and that'smy hope and desire as well.
But I think I mean, even as youmentioned, like polyester
clothing and I, before coming tounderstand like the vibrational
frequency of fabric or notfabric, and looking at polyester
, was one of my favorite typesof fabric because it was easy
(23:19):
and I travel a lot and it packswell and and not realizing
Exactly.
And who doesn't want that Right, like it's easy, exactly, and
who doesn't want that right,like it's easy?
But I think, as you talk about,like this, the opportunity that
(23:41):
we have, like as we invest inourselves again and realizing
how much control we really havein that space, it unknown around
that looking and feelingdifferent, how can you speak to
that for individuals that don'tknow?
Because we're comfortable withthe things that we're
comfortable with, right, I mean,that's just the reality.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Right.
And what is the reality?
Statistically, 75% of theAmerican people are obese or
overweight.
Nine out of 10 Americans aremetabolically dysfunctional.
The number two killer amongstchildren 14 to 21 is suicide.
So we have a wake-up call,ladies and gentlemen.
This is a clarion call to allhuman beings.
We know this to be true.
(24:19):
Now we can mow over it withsome entertainment television
shows, video games, makeup,deodorant, Entertainment.
Television shows, video games,makeup, deodorant, day, late
fragrance, mop our floors withFabuloso and new and improved
Tide.
But this is just covering upthe truth, Right, and the truth
(24:43):
is, this is our divineconnection and our divine nature
.
We can let everything fall tothe wayside when we understand
and have some form of agreement.
At least for myself, hey, Idon't want to have neck pain and
back pain and obesity and gutdysfunction and inflammation.
I'm in my 30s and the doctorwants to take out my thyroid or
(25:03):
my gallbladder or this or that,and they want me on 15
medications.
And what are in thosemedications?
This toxin and that toxin andthis metal and that metal.
And I already feel like crap.
And then you want me to takemore crap.
Oh well, maybe I can startdreaming up beyond this cycle.
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