October 23, 2025 • 28 mins
A blinding light. A mountain watching. A tree she had chosen long before. Holly Porter’s near-death experience did not end in the hospital. Through guided hypnosis, she revisited what she could not explain and uncovered one sentence that changed her life: love them where they’re at. That shift removed judgment, eased grief, and redefined how she works, heals, and connects.
We explore the line between dreams, nightmares, and real out-of-body experiences. Holly explains how hypnosis helps the body lead while the mind stays aware, turning years of therapy into hours of insight. These experiences shaped her book, Near Death Shift, and redirected her nonprofit from despair to purpose. Her new mission centers on helping women lead with clarity and conviction.
Healing took structure. Holly tracked her progress like data: fatigue levels, pain cycles, and stress triggers. She built daily habits around rest, hydration, supplements, and a 5 a.m. hyperbaric routine that restored her lungs. A new pulmonologist later confirmed what her own discipline had shown—wellness grows when you create room for recovery.
She closes with her SHIFT framework: surrender, hope, intuition, faith, and transformation. It is a guide for growth without trauma as the teacher.
If you want to trade judgment for grace and urgency for sustainable progress, listen in. Then subscribe, share it with someone who needs it, and leave a review with the insight you plan to apply.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
All of us reach a point in time where we are
depleted and need to somehowfind a way to reignite the fire
within.
But how do we spark that flame?
Welcome to Reignite Resilience,where we will venture into the
heart of the human spirit.
We'll discuss the art ofreigniting our passion and
(00:28):
strategies to stoke ourenthusiasm.
And now here are your hosts,Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
Okay, so things start piecing together, and I
realize, okay, Darby, so he's myhypnotist has my back
completely.
He's like, that is not yours.
I mean, he's like, you'restealing it.
She earned it and it's not.
I mean, they're going likehaving this big banter, and I'm
just in the hypnosis listeningto the whole thing.
And I feel this heat and light,the stadium light, that
(01:02):
brightness on my face.
And he says, the light's comingto take her, and I'm not going
to be able to stop it.
And he's like, well, then don'tgive it to her, you know.
So eventually he lets me have mylight and I go walking forward
and over on the right hand side,up high, way back, is a mountain
with one eye on it.
(01:22):
Haven't figured out that wholething, but I believe it was
watching over me.
There's a lot of significancewith one eyes.
As you can see, I have thembehind me here if you're
watching this on video.
So still, that's yet to bedetermined.
And then in front of me was atree.
And oh my gosh, talk about youknow, I would just come out of
this awful two years.
I needed some joy, I needed somelove.
And I saw the tree.
(01:43):
Well, I had created retreat RRwhen I was doing the branding.
I had told them that it neededto have a tree in the logo.
Didn't know why.
Nobody questioned it.
And when the tree comes back,the picture of it, it had 11
leaves and 11 roots on it.
One, one, one, one, which is theday I got out of the hospital.
My birthday's one, one.
(02:04):
There's just so much withascension with those numbers.
And I did never change anythingon the logo.
I was like, wow, that's it.
And like a year later, I got thestory from the guy that designed
it, which was also a really coolstory.
Anyway, back to this.
So then and I saw the tree, andit was like, it I call them God
gifts.
It was like a symbol from Godtelling me, you created that
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logo and didn't even rememberthis as part of your story.
So then I get to the light, andthose the matters floating
around over there, too, and evenin the dark, by the way, the
matter would form a heart out ofwhen it would get together, it
would form a heart and it wouldgo to the left.
And I remember thinking, well,we're all attracted to the
light.
They just all want the light.
(02:45):
But when I got to the light, thesame matter was doing that with
the hearts, but now they'repink.
When I started my adventurebucket wish, nonprofit, we had
our first fundraiser in thegala, and all the little gift
bags I gave everybody, I knew ithad to have a pink rose quart
heart in it.
And I just put it in, no onequestioned me.
(03:05):
I didn't, I never really thoughtabout it or the why.
I see that, and I'm like, samething as the tree.
I was just like, I did the twothings I was told to do, and
there's your there's your sign,you know, you're on the right
track.
So then I saw the life review.
This time I only saw good.
I don't know if I told you aboutthe life review on the other
one.
So I'm seeing the life review,but all I'm seeing is good.
This time I remembered to ask,what where's the bad?
(03:26):
There's lots of bad.
Where's the bad?
And it was like I never saw God,but I felt him and I heard him.
And he he clearly said, I'mshowing you this because this is
what matters.
And I thought, wow, that's a Godof love.
The good is what matters, andthat's what I that's what I
needed to see.
I didn't need to see the bad,especially at that point.
(03:47):
My heart needed healed.
And then he said to me throughmy hypnotist, he said, More will
be revealed to you when the timeis right, which was I was at
peace with.
I'd never felt peace in my wholelife, like until now.
And I was like, okay, I usuallywant to know everything, but I'm
good with that.
Probably would have been sooverwhelming, I wouldn't have
been able to handle everything.
And I wouldn't have had to gothrough those two years of hard
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times to experience what Ineeded to.
The next message that I wanteveryone to listen really close
to, because this is a gamechanger.
This would have saved me fromthe two years of awfulness.
Love them where they're at.
And when I heard that, I waslike, oh, like love, sure.
I knew all about that.
Seeing love, we all know love,unconditional love, whatever.
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But to have love them wherethey're at, and those words, it
takes away that judgment.
It is, it just takes all of thatout of there.
And you just, it's so freeing.
And if I I would have handledthose two years so much
differently if I would have hadthat message, and I wouldn't
have had those lessons that Ineeded from that experience.
Okay, I think I think that waskind of it after that.
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I mean, I didn't get to go backto the concert in the Stadium
Light, which I was a littlebummed about.
He pulled me out, but we hadalready been in it for like an
hour and 40 minutes.
So I'm like, fine, I'll I'llrevisit that later.
SPEAKER_03 (05:04):
And had you done hypnosis prior to this, or was
this?
SPEAKER_01 (05:07):
I was actually certified for it.
So it's funny because I just didone, I hadn't for a few years,
and I just did one on one of myhigh school buddies on a kind of
similar experience with her.
And she just told me again theother day, she goes, That was
game changing for me,life-changing.
And I thought, uh, so yeah,anyone that I'm totally an
advocate for hypnosis, you cando years of therapy in an hour
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or two.
Years.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
So when you go through hypnosis, so you're uh
consciously aware of what'sgoing on.
SPEAKER_01 (05:35):
So you remember your eye.
I mean, that's part of thescript in the beginning.
If anytime you feel unsafe, youcan open your eyes.
I can remember having doingsessions where I was like, I
just want to see if I reallycan.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, can I open them?
Yeah, just that stubborn part.
I totally can, but I didn't whywould you want to?
Because it's such a coolexperience.
Even when you're in, you know,you're facing a lot of things,
(05:57):
you're dealing with people inthere and resolving things in
there.
And yeah, I mean, before thissession, he started with the
first memory I had.
I don't usually even talk aboutthis.
The first memory that I hadwhere I felt unseen.
Don't ask me why that's whatcame up, but I don't have that
many memories as a child.
And he he took me back, or Itook him back to I was 17 months
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old.
Who remembers a memory whenyou're 17 months?
And my mom had had, she hadseven kids in seven years.
She had five kids under four anda half with twins.
So she had a four and a halfyear old, a three-year-old, I
was 17 months, and then twins.
And I was hiding behind a chair.
My mom went to the hospital,have a baby, and came home with
two.
She didn't even know.
(06:43):
My sister and brother, but olderthan me, had experienced what I
was experiencing, you know, notbeing the baby now.
A 17-month-old is a baby still,in my eyes.
Yeah.
And I'm like hiding behind achair, realizing like nobody
even knew I was there.
Like I didn't exist becauseeverybody was scrambling trying
to figure out how we're gonnahandle two babies and two
babies.
And I just thought that was soprofound that he that I
(07:05):
remembered that.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
Anyway, wow, wow.
So you went through threesignificant experiences, and but
when you left the hospital, didyou remember any of those?
Or did like you said, does itjust take it?
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
So you did everything I told you until the
hypnosis session, like all of Ijust had questions.
They were the gaps were from thenear-death experience.
I remembered all of the out ofbody, I remembered the spiritual
experience, but those gaps, youknow, like when I went from the
hospital hallway to the stadium,and I and then coming back and
saying I got kidnapped, likethat didn't make sense to me.
(07:39):
And I was writing my book at thetime, and I'm like, out of
integrity, I want to have thestory, right?
And so what really happened.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (07:46):
And now I know your spirit knew, like you knew that
you were kidnapped at that time,and but and then coming back,
like consciously, it doesn'tmake sense.
You're like, I don't know whyI'm typing this one word out,
and I'm using all of my energyto get this one word out, but
you need to know that I've beenkidnapped.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Um she's like, You never left this room.
They did your surgeries in here,and I'm like, I just looked down
like they were nuts.
I'm like, I went everywhere,I've been all the places.
SPEAKER_03 (08:12):
I've been thinking, but bringing this bed with me to
places that you never think.
SPEAKER_01 (08:20):
But I can tell you, because you know, there's been
people on other shows I've beenon that lots of people like NDE
shows and stuff, they make lotsof comments.
Sometimes I don't want to readthem because I'm like, I don't
want to hear the crap, you know?
And people will just be like,like for me, I knew a different
I knew when I was having anightmare or just a weird dream.
I knew when it was out of body.
Like I didn't have names tothem, but I mean, I can tell you
(08:41):
specifically as soon as Ilearned about them, which was
what, I knew immediately becausethey were all different, they
were different experiences thathave names.
So I was able to put the name onthem.
SPEAKER_03 (08:51):
So yeah, and they feel different, I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_01 (08:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I like I had some reallycrazy dreams too.
And I mean, I had a bonus momthat was fairly newly married to
my dad, and she would withholdthere was stuff going on that
wasn't even true, and she waswithholding my oxygen.
We joke about, we laugh about itall the time.
She was withholding my oxygen,and I think it was till she got
her.
(09:16):
But I knew that was a dreambecause I knew it wasn't
happening, and then she'd giveme my oxygen, like I just go to
take my last breath, and thatwas it.
And she'd get whatever she was,she was negotiating with me, and
she'd get it somehow.
Don't ask how I gave it to herwhile I'm half dead, but then I
get air, and I mean, I remembersitting in one dream or
nightmare, it was more of anightmare.
(09:37):
People were out sitting in likepark like benches, like in a
busy street, like I was New YorkCity or something, and they had
to put money in, like you wouldto park.
What did they call that?
The meter, a parking meter, yes,that was for oxygen.
So they so there was dead peopleall over because they write all
the homeless, they have anymoney, so they just they didn't
(09:57):
have money for the I mean, justthe craziest things.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
Wow, wow, and those were dreams, those are the
dreams, those are not theexperiences, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:07):
Nightmares because it was kind of creepy, like
nightmares, I should say.
I mean, my Nel Tech.
I remember I had a I had a dreamabout her.
She was trying to do some stuff.
We were like at the gym, andthere was this big trampoline
involved.
And actually, I remember when Iwas having that one because I
had a salon and spa for 20years, so I had trained two of
my girls to be cosmetologists,and I was also an esthetician.
(10:28):
And my sister is also, and solike they would they shaved my
legs while I was in there.
My sister filled my nails, didmy gel toes while I'm in the
ICU, and my sister waxed myeyebrows, and she's like, You
acted like that was the worstpain you'd ever been in when you
have tubes going everywhere inyour body and you get a shot
every hour in your stomach.
(10:48):
Oh guys, you're flinching atthat, and so we laugh.
SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
So share, share with us a littlebit about your nonprofit.
So you had this message to startthis nonprofit.
So share with our listenersabout the nonprofit.
SPEAKER_01 (11:03):
Okay, so my book's called Near Death Shift, and
it's so interesting that thatended up being the name because
I had a different name for twoyears, and then I just switched
it in the last few months.
Shift is so interesting thatit's there because shift
happened also with thenonprofit.
So when we started it, it wasfor I was told member the name
and no omission.
(11:23):
Well, I started getting all mylong COVID diagnoses in.
I had a lung disease.
I was told I needed to get onthe lung transplant list.
I mean, there was all kinds ofthings going on that first two
years.
And the second year, well, goinginto the third year, I knew
something was off.
We did it for long COVID.
Over 100 million peoplesuffering.
There's 200 symptoms attached toit, but it was so negative.
(11:46):
Like the Facebook groups I wasin, it's like people love being
victims.
And I was suffering, but I wasworking so hard to get better.
My whole motto was better isbetter.
And every day it was like ifsomething went good my way, it's
like check, check, and yeah.
I just couldn't figure out whatit was intuitively.
So I took all the fundraisersthe after the second year off
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the table, and I had started apodcast that went about a year,
and I thought, just keep doingthe podcast until I have further
knowledge, right?
So one day I'm doing the podcastand I it's someone with long
COVID and she's telling me herstory, and it's also video.
I should go back and look at itand watch myself because I
started reliving my experience,like the trauma, and I couldn't
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breathe.
And I was just like, what isgoing on?
And I got this huge downloadthat it was just like someone
speaking right to me that said,This is not your mission
anymore, and this is your lastpodcast.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
I was actually grateful.
I was like, cool, because Imean, I I canceled everything
right after I barely finishedher show.
I uploaded, I think, to YouTube,but I didn't even do it on any
(12:51):
of the other platforms.
I was so done.
I was just like, needed theanswer.
Then the grief came because Godtells you to do something.
Why would He take it away?
So I call my friend, she'sreally holistic, she's an energy
healer, but she's on my board.
And I'm like, ah, now what?
I said, Why would God do that?
And she said, Well, if Iremember right, you were given
the name, but not the mission.
(13:12):
I know you're right.
And she goes, So keep the nameand change the mission.
So we already had the 501c3, sothat's what we did.
And she said, then it was like,now what?
What are we gonna do now?
And she goes, What would lightyou up?
Because it was just dragging medown.
I was living in wellness spaceor really working hard to be
there all the time, and it wouldpull me back into sick space and
(13:35):
just that negativity.
So it was more for my mentalhealth, I think.
And I'd already had enough withthe two years my mental health
was suffering enough.
I needed, I needed just goodthings, and so we changed it to
women leading with purposebecause purpose is what I got
out of all my experience.
I I got my why, the why I neverfelt like I had.
SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
I'm sure, like in that space, you find individuals
that are wanting to havecommunity because they've had
this experience, right?
Like I have these long-termlingering effects or what have
you.
But then it shifts into thisenergy of like desperation and
like you said, the victimmentality.
It's like, oh, woe is me, andthis has happened to me, and
this is my identity now, andthis is who I am, and not
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wanting to shed that, whereyou're like, no, I got lesson,
the message received,downloaded, ready to go, let's
move on.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
Yeah.
And and I mean, I send love andI sympathize with all of them.
Absolutely.
But at that time, like rightnow, you have so many people
with long COVID that have reallygotten better.
They're either, I mean, I was70% for a long time.
70% of 100 on your health is notgood.
Not correct.
That's not good.
No.
And and then when I finally gotto 90, 95, and that I've never
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gotten over 95, and I've hadsetbacks where six weeks one
year, six weeks the next year,this week, this year I had a
10-week setback.
And I worked through it, Itraveled through it, but I, you
know, when your pain's four toseven all day long because of
the fatigue, and you just getall these symptoms back, but
it's it stinks.
But to me, it was just no, keepfocusing on like, did God save
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me to come this far?
I think I need to finish whatI'm supposed to be doing.
Like, not that I'm gonna toyaway with my health, but I think
I got put in a coma to sit stilllong enough so I would listen to
what I needed to do.
I think I get setbacks for thesame reason, which by the way,
has taken me three years ofsetbacks and a 10-week this year
to sit and go, oh duh, that'sprobably the same.
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Like, I'm not getting themessage, apparently.
So let me just get your healthcrappy so it slows you down
because you're a little offtrack.
So now I'm handling thosedifferently and I'm hoping no
more setbacks.
SPEAKER_02 (15:38):
Okay, and so how do you handle them differently now?
This is recent.
SPEAKER_03 (15:43):
Yesterday, this is a new thing.
SPEAKER_02 (15:46):
You're you're on the journey as we speak.
So yes, I don't have to knowbecause you know, women, we tend
to just like go, go, go.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
I think okay, so self-care to me, you know, I had
a salon and spa for 20 years,but I just never had self-care.
I just was go, go, go, raisingkids, kids are first, jobs
first, you know.
And so it became, but for forwhen I got sick, it was I had to
almost choose do I want healthcare or self-care?
My health care was my self-care.
(16:16):
So I had a hyperbary because Ihad a lung disease.
So I was that was anothermiracle how I got one.
I had one in my house.
I was able to get in it everyday.
I couldn't hold the bathroomlonger than an hour.
I mean, I'm a menopausal woman,you know.
So I would get up at 5 a.m.
so that I could empty my bladderand then get in there for 90
minutes.
And to me, it's like, okay, doyou exercise or you get in to
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save your lungs?
Do you know what I mean?
If it's that choice, yeah.
It was just like 90 minutes is along part, and that's why I got
up at 5 a.m.
just to make sure I got in thereand I could stretch and stuff in
there, but I could do, I coulddo my emails, I could do, I
could work in there too, or Icould choose to sleep if I
needed it.
I think now what it would looklike is especially because the
book, you know, I set mydeadline and then that was it.
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And there was a lot, there was alot of setbacks with the book,
two years in the making.
But when I finally decided no,11-11 is the date, there was a
lot of process there, so a lotof stress.
So I always noticed where mytrachea was, I get a pain there.
It's weird, it's like a ghostpain almost.
It's like, it's like that's yoursign that you're starting to get
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something, like something'scoming on.
And I just am paying moreattention to that.
And then I'm just so much slowerthan I used to be.
I mean, I just I still get a lotdone, but I work from home most
of the time now, and I just Idon't push.
I I say no more.
My calendar, my days don't look,they just don't look like they
used to.
And and I also agree that that'ssad because I thrive on be busy,
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you know, and busy's the newstupid, right?
SPEAKER_03 (17:44):
Anyways, being productive is what I like to
say.
Yeah, yeah, you've been thrivingon being productive, yeah.
Or what we thought of asproductive is actually busy,
right?
No white space in your calendar,just back to back to back, just
keep going.
Yeah, guilty, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:57):
Yeah, and I there's a lot more white space and
taking breaks and walking aroundand going and getting, you know,
making sure I'm drinking a lotof water.
And I mean, I take supplementslike no other.
Someone asked me the other day,what do you spend on
supplements?
Because they saw what I wastaking, handfuls when I was at
their house.
And and I just said, I don'tknow if I've ever added it up.
I'm not sure I want to because Ibuy things three months at a
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time or five months at a time,you know.
But a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (18:21):
Nowhere near the one million dollar hospital bill, so
it's fine.
It's that's whatever it is,whatever it costs.
Yeah, yeah.
Holly, what do the physicalCOVID setbacks feel like for
you?
You said that you had a 10-weekthis this year.
SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Yeah, the hardest part is pain comes.
So the first week, it'sinteresting.
I almost know the pattern, sothat's another thing I'm
realizing.
So I think people apply this tohow you are with your health or
your listeners, is who I'mtalking to.
Think about like when you startgetting really stressed, like
stress is causes everything.
Like that is literally the causeof any ailment at some point.
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So I'll get like the first week,I'm super tired and then just
fatigue.
Like, I'm not a napper.
I love to be able to be nappingevery day, but I just never do.
I don't stop that way.
And I'll be like, no, I'm gonnago lay down for an hour, and
then I'm a totally differentperson.
When I wake up, I have energyagain.
So it's that fatigue would comethe first week, and then the
second week, the pain set in.
(19:20):
So I was going from a four toseven pain from a scale from one
to ten all day long.
I never could get rid of it.
The back of my legs ached.
Like I literally, I could tellyou I ached from head to toe.
So, like a fibromyalgia wasthere.
I never had that before.
I had the pulmonary fibrosisfrom the lung disease, which by
the way, okay, another miracle.
(19:41):
I went from them telling me Ineeded to be on a transplant
list, lung transplant list,which by the way is worse than a
heart transplant, and it onlygives you another 10 years.
So it's a two to four yearlifespan, what they they gave me
this diagnosis.
Or you get a lung transplant andmaybe it'll give you another 10,
which some people live 20,whatever.
But that was my diagnosis.
(20:02):
And I went to a newpulmonologist this year, and he
told me yearly I have to do thetest to see if it's getting
worse.
And I know it's not because I'mI'm not feeling worse, other
than when I have setbacks.
And he said, You don't even needto come do the test next year.
If you want to, you can, but youdon't even need to do that.
And I thought, score, that's thepower of mindset.
(20:22):
When you focus on wellness, youcan heal yourself.
I mean, there nobody reallyknows with pulmonary fibrosis
with COVID because nobody had itbefore.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (20:34):
Yeah.
So uncharted territory, you'rethere.
SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Like this is slow down, figure out.
But the fatigue really holdsyou, that holds you back, but
the pain's hard.
I found a natural botanical thatI found a few years ago, about
three years ago.
And I don't even take themhardly ever anymore.
But I was taking a lot of those.
It was costing me about probably900 a month just to have those.
There were like 19 differentones I would take, but there was
a pain little concoction I woulddo.
(21:00):
It was like a muscle relaxer, aTylenol, and an ibuprofen, but
they're all botanical, they wereall natural.
And I popped those suckers, andmy in 10 minutes, if I started
to get a headache, it would begone in 10 minutes.
Like if it just really helped.
And sometimes I'd have to takedouble the amount.
Redheads, by the way, have adifferent tolerance to stuff.
And so when I was in thehospital, they were giving me
(21:20):
fentanyl and oxycodone.
And my daughter was in therethat day, and she said, I think
I saved your life that daybecause what happened was being
a redhead, I you metabolizedifferently.
So she said they were likeoverdosing me and withdrawing me
at the same time.
The fentanyl would be everyhour, and my body would
metabolize it every 20 minutes.
So it was just this dance oftrying to figure out like the
(21:43):
how it works and what's notgonna kill me or what's gonna
be.
SPEAKER_02 (21:51):
Yeah, like we don't, we we just push through.
We're like, I got I got stuff todo.
I don't have time to take a nap,I don't have time to get some
more sleep, whatever that,whatever that looks like.
SPEAKER_01 (22:02):
It's huge, especially for the biggest
message I'd like to say too isyou don't have to have your own
near death experience toexperience a shift.
And the shift is my near deathshift is the book name, but the
shift stands for surrender,hope, intuition, faith, and
transformation.
And it's basically finding thatfor yourself.
(22:22):
You don't have to almost die todecide you're going to live.
SPEAKER_02 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't wait for that to happen.
SPEAKER_01 (22:30):
There's signals, just pay attention.
SPEAKER_02 (22:32):
And listen, and and everybody's completely
different.
We all have different signals,but we know we all, every one of
us knows when something's notwhen something's awfully right.
Yeah, recognizing it.
SPEAKER_01 (22:44):
I love that.
Sorry, that wasn't veryconversational.
I hogged it all.
That's okay.
This is an awesome message.
SPEAKER_03 (22:50):
So exactly.
I was gonna ask if you have anykey takeaways from the book that
you'd like to share with ourlisteners outside of the SHIFT
acronym.
So that's an important piece.
But do you have any keys thatyou'd like to to leave us with?
SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
The I mean, the biggest message that I love is
the love of where they're atbecause that just changes it,
just changes everything.
I think if one, if that's onetakeaway that somebody could
walk away with, I would say thatwould be that would be a huge
one.
I mean, it just next time youlook at someone, I mean, we all
tend to judge.
(23:22):
It's just human nature.
Next time you look at someoneand have a thought that might
not be so positive about aperson or or driving on the
road, just I want you toremember that.
I love them where they're at andjust give them grace and find
the joy in the little stuff.
Little shit.
I had a guy, I'll tell you thisreal quick.
I gave that message to a guy ayear ago, about a year and a
(23:44):
half ago.
We were on a business cruise andhe was a therapist, and he was
actually from Puerto Rico.
So we stayed up all nighttalking one time and told him
all these stories.
And he said to me, when I toldhim the love and where they're
at, he had told me he had a lotof hate in his heart for all
these perpetrators and people,you know, he's had to have he's
had to fix the people that havedone, you know, from the damage
(24:05):
and how much hate he had towardsthose.
And when I gave him thatmessage, he sent me a WhatsApp
and he sent me a message acouple of times about it since.
And he said, You changed mylife.
He said that my whole feelingaround that is so different now.
You're right, it's not my placeto judge.
I need to just love people wherethey're at.
And he said it kind of in hisown words, and I loved it.
(24:25):
I thought, wow, to that wholecruise was worth going on to
know that that one person nowcan help so many more because
they're not judging and hating.
SPEAKER_02 (24:33):
Yeah, it would be a much nicer world if we could all
have that motto.
Love them where they're at.
Beautiful.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
Holly, if someone wants to work with you or get a
hold of the book, where can theyfind it?
So release date, I think we'veshared it, 1111.
Where is it available?
SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
I'll give you my link tree and it has every it
has the website, the book,everything will be on there.
So if they have that link, theycan get to anything, all my
social media, everything onthere.
Be the easiest.
SPEAKER_03 (25:00):
Perfect.
SPEAKER_01 (25:01):
I love it.
I love it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:02):
That's fabulous.
We'll make sure that we put allof your contact information and
the link tree in the show notesas well.
That's fabulous.
Thank you for that.
Oh my goodness.
Anything that we haven't touchedon today, Holly.
SPEAKER_01 (25:11):
Oh gosh, who knows?
SPEAKER_02 (25:13):
I'll lay in bed tonight and say, I didn't say
that.
We'll just have you on againafter the book has launched
because you'll probably have newrevelations after the book comes
out.
SPEAKER_01 (25:26):
Well, I knew when I so this is my 17th book, and
there's 17 chapters.
I'm a numbers girl.
Um seven and one, it's eight,and eight's a great prosperity
number and good numberabundance.
And I knew when I came out, oneof the first intuition things
hits I got when I was out of thehospital, and it was kind of
like, dang, I have two books towrite.
(25:46):
And I, I mean, I've I alreadyhad at that time, I think I had
13 or 14, and they're not allmine, there's some I've been
part of as chapters in otherpeople's books.
And I was like, dang, I have twomore.
I thought I was done.
And I know this is this is likethe book.
Like, I'm gonna be more proud ofthis one than any other.
It's it's under spirituality andpersonal development.
(26:07):
So the first half is my stories,a lot of these that I told you,
but in more detail.
And the second half is the shiftand the eight, eight different
things that I learned, you know,lessons that I learned and kind
of like a life will.
I kind of use that.
And I had already created itlike five years ago for this
prosperity event that I wasdoing in every six months live,
(26:27):
and never created a programaround it.
And it was so weird because oneday it dawned on me that it's
for this.
I was like, oh, it's so weirdhow later you're like, wow, I
didn't realize I didn't have aprogram around it because the
program's this.
This is just another shift, youknow?
SPEAKER_03 (26:42):
Yeah, kind of fun.
I love that.
Well, congratulations,congratulations on book 17, 17
chapters.
Infinity itself.
That's fabulous.
I love it.
I love that.
This has been an absolutepleasure.
Thank you, thank you, thank youfor sharing your story with us.
SPEAKER_02 (26:58):
So fun.
Well, I appreciate you havingme.
SPEAKER_03 (27:01):
Absolutely, absolutely.
And for our listeners, we willmake sure that we put Holly's
contact information and links tothe book so that you can grab a
copy of the book, especially ifyou're listening to this after
1111, that you can grab a copyof the book.
If you're interested in knowingabout what's happening in the
world of Reignite Resilience,you all know.
Head on over toReigniteResilience.com to catch
up with what's going on.
Until next time, we'll see youall soon.
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Resilience.
All of us reach a point in time where we are
depleted and need to somehowfind a way to reignite the fire
within.
But how do we spark that flame?
Welcome to Reignite Resilience,where we will venture into the
heart of the human spirit.
We'll discuss the art ofreigniting our passion and
(00:28):
strategies to stoke ourenthusiasm.
And now here are your hosts,Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
Okay, so things start piecing together, and I
realize, okay, Darby, so he's myhypnotist has my back
completely.
He's like, that is not yours.
I mean, he's like, you'restealing it.
She earned it and it's not.
I mean, they're going likehaving this big banter, and I'm
just in the hypnosis listeningto the whole thing.
And I feel this heat and light,the stadium light, that
(01:02):
brightness on my face.
And he says, the light's comingto take her, and I'm not going
to be able to stop it.
And he's like, well, then don'tgive it to her, you know.
So eventually he lets me have mylight and I go walking forward
and over on the right hand side,up high, way back, is a mountain
with one eye on it.
(01:22):
Haven't figured out that wholething, but I believe it was
watching over me.
There's a lot of significancewith one eyes.
As you can see, I have thembehind me here if you're
watching this on video.
So still, that's yet to bedetermined.
And then in front of me was atree.
And oh my gosh, talk about youknow, I would just come out of
this awful two years.
I needed some joy, I needed somelove.
And I saw the tree.
(01:43):
Well, I had created retreat RRwhen I was doing the branding.
I had told them that it neededto have a tree in the logo.
Didn't know why.
Nobody questioned it.
And when the tree comes back,the picture of it, it had 11
leaves and 11 roots on it.
One, one, one, one, which is theday I got out of the hospital.
My birthday's one, one.
(02:04):
There's just so much withascension with those numbers.
And I did never change anythingon the logo.
I was like, wow, that's it.
And like a year later, I got thestory from the guy that designed
it, which was also a really coolstory.
Anyway, back to this.
So then and I saw the tree, andit was like, it I call them God
gifts.
It was like a symbol from Godtelling me, you created that
(02:25):
logo and didn't even rememberthis as part of your story.
So then I get to the light, andthose the matters floating
around over there, too, and evenin the dark, by the way, the
matter would form a heart out ofwhen it would get together, it
would form a heart and it wouldgo to the left.
And I remember thinking, well,we're all attracted to the
light.
They just all want the light.
(02:45):
But when I got to the light, thesame matter was doing that with
the hearts, but now they'repink.
When I started my adventurebucket wish, nonprofit, we had
our first fundraiser in thegala, and all the little gift
bags I gave everybody, I knew ithad to have a pink rose quart
heart in it.
And I just put it in, no onequestioned me.
(03:05):
I didn't, I never really thoughtabout it or the why.
I see that, and I'm like, samething as the tree.
I was just like, I did the twothings I was told to do, and
there's your there's your sign,you know, you're on the right
track.
So then I saw the life review.
This time I only saw good.
I don't know if I told you aboutthe life review on the other
one.
So I'm seeing the life review,but all I'm seeing is good.
This time I remembered to ask,what where's the bad?
(03:26):
There's lots of bad.
Where's the bad?
And it was like I never saw God,but I felt him and I heard him.
And he he clearly said, I'mshowing you this because this is
what matters.
And I thought, wow, that's a Godof love.
The good is what matters, andthat's what I that's what I
needed to see.
I didn't need to see the bad,especially at that point.
(03:47):
My heart needed healed.
And then he said to me throughmy hypnotist, he said, More will
be revealed to you when the timeis right, which was I was at
peace with.
I'd never felt peace in my wholelife, like until now.
And I was like, okay, I usuallywant to know everything, but I'm
good with that.
Probably would have been sooverwhelming, I wouldn't have
been able to handle everything.
And I wouldn't have had to gothrough those two years of hard
(04:09):
times to experience what Ineeded to.
The next message that I wanteveryone to listen really close
to, because this is a gamechanger.
This would have saved me fromthe two years of awfulness.
Love them where they're at.
And when I heard that, I waslike, oh, like love, sure.
I knew all about that.
Seeing love, we all know love,unconditional love, whatever.
(04:31):
But to have love them wherethey're at, and those words, it
takes away that judgment.
It is, it just takes all of thatout of there.
And you just, it's so freeing.
And if I I would have handledthose two years so much
differently if I would have hadthat message, and I wouldn't
have had those lessons that Ineeded from that experience.
Okay, I think I think that waskind of it after that.
(04:52):
I mean, I didn't get to go backto the concert in the Stadium
Light, which I was a littlebummed about.
He pulled me out, but we hadalready been in it for like an
hour and 40 minutes.
So I'm like, fine, I'll I'llrevisit that later.
SPEAKER_03 (05:04):
And had you done hypnosis prior to this, or was
this?
SPEAKER_01 (05:07):
I was actually certified for it.
So it's funny because I just didone, I hadn't for a few years,
and I just did one on one of myhigh school buddies on a kind of
similar experience with her.
And she just told me again theother day, she goes, That was
game changing for me,life-changing.
And I thought, uh, so yeah,anyone that I'm totally an
advocate for hypnosis, you cando years of therapy in an hour
(05:28):
or two.
Years.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
So when you go through hypnosis, so you're uh
consciously aware of what'sgoing on.
SPEAKER_01 (05:35):
So you remember your eye.
I mean, that's part of thescript in the beginning.
If anytime you feel unsafe, youcan open your eyes.
I can remember having doingsessions where I was like, I
just want to see if I reallycan.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, can I open them?
Yeah, just that stubborn part.
I totally can, but I didn't whywould you want to?
Because it's such a coolexperience.
Even when you're in, you know,you're facing a lot of things,
(05:57):
you're dealing with people inthere and resolving things in
there.
And yeah, I mean, before thissession, he started with the
first memory I had.
I don't usually even talk aboutthis.
The first memory that I hadwhere I felt unseen.
Don't ask me why that's whatcame up, but I don't have that
many memories as a child.
And he he took me back, or Itook him back to I was 17 months
(06:21):
old.
Who remembers a memory whenyou're 17 months?
And my mom had had, she hadseven kids in seven years.
She had five kids under four anda half with twins.
So she had a four and a halfyear old, a three-year-old, I
was 17 months, and then twins.
And I was hiding behind a chair.
My mom went to the hospital,have a baby, and came home with
two.
She didn't even know.
(06:43):
My sister and brother, but olderthan me, had experienced what I
was experiencing, you know, notbeing the baby now.
A 17-month-old is a baby still,in my eyes.
Yeah.
And I'm like hiding behind achair, realizing like nobody
even knew I was there.
Like I didn't exist becauseeverybody was scrambling trying
to figure out how we're gonnahandle two babies and two
babies.
And I just thought that was soprofound that he that I
(07:05):
remembered that.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
Anyway, wow, wow.
So you went through threesignificant experiences, and but
when you left the hospital, didyou remember any of those?
Or did like you said, does itjust take it?
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
So you did everything I told you until the
hypnosis session, like all of Ijust had questions.
They were the gaps were from thenear-death experience.
I remembered all of the out ofbody, I remembered the spiritual
experience, but those gaps, youknow, like when I went from the
hospital hallway to the stadium,and I and then coming back and
saying I got kidnapped, likethat didn't make sense to me.
(07:39):
And I was writing my book at thetime, and I'm like, out of
integrity, I want to have thestory, right?
And so what really happened.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (07:46):
And now I know your spirit knew, like you knew that
you were kidnapped at that time,and but and then coming back,
like consciously, it doesn'tmake sense.
You're like, I don't know whyI'm typing this one word out,
and I'm using all of my energyto get this one word out, but
you need to know that I've beenkidnapped.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Um she's like, You never left this room.
They did your surgeries in here,and I'm like, I just looked down
like they were nuts.
I'm like, I went everywhere,I've been all the places.
SPEAKER_03 (08:12):
I've been thinking, but bringing this bed with me to
places that you never think.
SPEAKER_01 (08:20):
But I can tell you, because you know, there's been
people on other shows I've beenon that lots of people like NDE
shows and stuff, they make lotsof comments.
Sometimes I don't want to readthem because I'm like, I don't
want to hear the crap, you know?
And people will just be like,like for me, I knew a different
I knew when I was having anightmare or just a weird dream.
I knew when it was out of body.
Like I didn't have names tothem, but I mean, I can tell you
(08:41):
specifically as soon as Ilearned about them, which was
what, I knew immediately becausethey were all different, they
were different experiences thathave names.
So I was able to put the name onthem.
SPEAKER_03 (08:51):
So yeah, and they feel different, I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_01 (08:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I like I had some reallycrazy dreams too.
And I mean, I had a bonus momthat was fairly newly married to
my dad, and she would withholdthere was stuff going on that
wasn't even true, and she waswithholding my oxygen.
We joke about, we laugh about itall the time.
She was withholding my oxygen,and I think it was till she got
her.
(09:16):
But I knew that was a dreambecause I knew it wasn't
happening, and then she'd giveme my oxygen, like I just go to
take my last breath, and thatwas it.
And she'd get whatever she was,she was negotiating with me, and
she'd get it somehow.
Don't ask how I gave it to herwhile I'm half dead, but then I
get air, and I mean, I remembersitting in one dream or
nightmare, it was more of anightmare.
(09:37):
People were out sitting in likepark like benches, like in a
busy street, like I was New YorkCity or something, and they had
to put money in, like you wouldto park.
What did they call that?
The meter, a parking meter, yes,that was for oxygen.
So they so there was dead peopleall over because they write all
the homeless, they have anymoney, so they just they didn't
(09:57):
have money for the I mean, justthe craziest things.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
Wow, wow, and those were dreams, those are the
dreams, those are not theexperiences, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:07):
Nightmares because it was kind of creepy, like
nightmares, I should say.
I mean, my Nel Tech.
I remember I had a I had a dreamabout her.
She was trying to do some stuff.
We were like at the gym, andthere was this big trampoline
involved.
And actually, I remember when Iwas having that one because I
had a salon and spa for 20years, so I had trained two of
my girls to be cosmetologists,and I was also an esthetician.
(10:28):
And my sister is also, and solike they would they shaved my
legs while I was in there.
My sister filled my nails, didmy gel toes while I'm in the
ICU, and my sister waxed myeyebrows, and she's like, You
acted like that was the worstpain you'd ever been in when you
have tubes going everywhere inyour body and you get a shot
every hour in your stomach.
(10:48):
Oh guys, you're flinching atthat, and so we laugh.
SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
So share, share with us a littlebit about your nonprofit.
So you had this message to startthis nonprofit.
So share with our listenersabout the nonprofit.
SPEAKER_01 (11:03):
Okay, so my book's called Near Death Shift, and
it's so interesting that thatended up being the name because
I had a different name for twoyears, and then I just switched
it in the last few months.
Shift is so interesting thatit's there because shift
happened also with thenonprofit.
So when we started it, it wasfor I was told member the name
and no omission.
(11:23):
Well, I started getting all mylong COVID diagnoses in.
I had a lung disease.
I was told I needed to get onthe lung transplant list.
I mean, there was all kinds ofthings going on that first two
years.
And the second year, well, goinginto the third year, I knew
something was off.
We did it for long COVID.
Over 100 million peoplesuffering.
There's 200 symptoms attached toit, but it was so negative.
(11:46):
Like the Facebook groups I wasin, it's like people love being
victims.
And I was suffering, but I wasworking so hard to get better.
My whole motto was better isbetter.
And every day it was like ifsomething went good my way, it's
like check, check, and yeah.
I just couldn't figure out whatit was intuitively.
So I took all the fundraisersthe after the second year off
(12:06):
the table, and I had started apodcast that went about a year,
and I thought, just keep doingthe podcast until I have further
knowledge, right?
So one day I'm doing the podcastand I it's someone with long
COVID and she's telling me herstory, and it's also video.
I should go back and look at itand watch myself because I
started reliving my experience,like the trauma, and I couldn't
(12:29):
breathe.
And I was just like, what isgoing on?
And I got this huge downloadthat it was just like someone
speaking right to me that said,This is not your mission
anymore, and this is your lastpodcast.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
I was actually grateful.
I was like, cool, because Imean, I I canceled everything
right after I barely finishedher show.
I uploaded, I think, to YouTube,but I didn't even do it on any
(12:51):
of the other platforms.
I was so done.
I was just like, needed theanswer.
Then the grief came because Godtells you to do something.
Why would He take it away?
So I call my friend, she'sreally holistic, she's an energy
healer, but she's on my board.
And I'm like, ah, now what?
I said, Why would God do that?
And she said, Well, if Iremember right, you were given
the name, but not the mission.
(13:12):
I know you're right.
And she goes, So keep the nameand change the mission.
So we already had the 501c3, sothat's what we did.
And she said, then it was like,now what?
What are we gonna do now?
And she goes, What would lightyou up?
Because it was just dragging medown.
I was living in wellness spaceor really working hard to be
there all the time, and it wouldpull me back into sick space and
(13:35):
just that negativity.
So it was more for my mentalhealth, I think.
And I'd already had enough withthe two years my mental health
was suffering enough.
I needed, I needed just goodthings, and so we changed it to
women leading with purposebecause purpose is what I got
out of all my experience.
I I got my why, the why I neverfelt like I had.
SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
I'm sure, like in that space, you find individuals
that are wanting to havecommunity because they've had
this experience, right?
Like I have these long-termlingering effects or what have
you.
But then it shifts into thisenergy of like desperation and
like you said, the victimmentality.
It's like, oh, woe is me, andthis has happened to me, and
this is my identity now, andthis is who I am, and not
(14:16):
wanting to shed that, whereyou're like, no, I got lesson,
the message received,downloaded, ready to go, let's
move on.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
Yeah.
And and I mean, I send love andI sympathize with all of them.
Absolutely.
But at that time, like rightnow, you have so many people
with long COVID that have reallygotten better.
They're either, I mean, I was70% for a long time.
70% of 100 on your health is notgood.
Not correct.
That's not good.
No.
And and then when I finally gotto 90, 95, and that I've never
(14:45):
gotten over 95, and I've hadsetbacks where six weeks one
year, six weeks the next year,this week, this year I had a
10-week setback.
And I worked through it, Itraveled through it, but I, you
know, when your pain's four toseven all day long because of
the fatigue, and you just getall these symptoms back, but
it's it stinks.
But to me, it was just no, keepfocusing on like, did God save
(15:06):
me to come this far?
I think I need to finish whatI'm supposed to be doing.
Like, not that I'm gonna toyaway with my health, but I think
I got put in a coma to sit stilllong enough so I would listen to
what I needed to do.
I think I get setbacks for thesame reason, which by the way,
has taken me three years ofsetbacks and a 10-week this year
to sit and go, oh duh, that'sprobably the same.
(15:28):
Like, I'm not getting themessage, apparently.
So let me just get your healthcrappy so it slows you down
because you're a little offtrack.
So now I'm handling thosedifferently and I'm hoping no
more setbacks.
SPEAKER_02 (15:38):
Okay, and so how do you handle them differently now?
This is recent.
SPEAKER_03 (15:43):
Yesterday, this is a new thing.
SPEAKER_02 (15:46):
You're you're on the journey as we speak.
So yes, I don't have to knowbecause you know, women, we tend
to just like go, go, go.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
I think okay, so self-care to me, you know, I had
a salon and spa for 20 years,but I just never had self-care.
I just was go, go, go, raisingkids, kids are first, jobs
first, you know.
And so it became, but for forwhen I got sick, it was I had to
almost choose do I want healthcare or self-care?
My health care was my self-care.
(16:16):
So I had a hyperbary because Ihad a lung disease.
So I was that was anothermiracle how I got one.
I had one in my house.
I was able to get in it everyday.
I couldn't hold the bathroomlonger than an hour.
I mean, I'm a menopausal woman,you know.
So I would get up at 5 a.m.
so that I could empty my bladderand then get in there for 90
minutes.
And to me, it's like, okay, doyou exercise or you get in to
(16:37):
save your lungs?
Do you know what I mean?
If it's that choice, yeah.
It was just like 90 minutes is along part, and that's why I got
up at 5 a.m.
just to make sure I got in thereand I could stretch and stuff in
there, but I could do, I coulddo my emails, I could do, I
could work in there too, or Icould choose to sleep if I
needed it.
I think now what it would looklike is especially because the
book, you know, I set mydeadline and then that was it.
(16:59):
And there was a lot, there was alot of setbacks with the book,
two years in the making.
But when I finally decided no,11-11 is the date, there was a
lot of process there, so a lotof stress.
So I always noticed where mytrachea was, I get a pain there.
It's weird, it's like a ghostpain almost.
It's like, it's like that's yoursign that you're starting to get
(17:19):
something, like something'scoming on.
And I just am paying moreattention to that.
And then I'm just so much slowerthan I used to be.
I mean, I just I still get a lotdone, but I work from home most
of the time now, and I just Idon't push.
I I say no more.
My calendar, my days don't look,they just don't look like they
used to.
And and I also agree that that'ssad because I thrive on be busy,
(17:42):
you know, and busy's the newstupid, right?
SPEAKER_03 (17:44):
Anyways, being productive is what I like to
say.
Yeah, yeah, you've been thrivingon being productive, yeah.
Or what we thought of asproductive is actually busy,
right?
No white space in your calendar,just back to back to back, just
keep going.
Yeah, guilty, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:57):
Yeah, and I there's a lot more white space and
taking breaks and walking aroundand going and getting, you know,
making sure I'm drinking a lotof water.
And I mean, I take supplementslike no other.
Someone asked me the other day,what do you spend on
supplements?
Because they saw what I wastaking, handfuls when I was at
their house.
And and I just said, I don'tknow if I've ever added it up.
I'm not sure I want to because Ibuy things three months at a
(18:18):
time or five months at a time,you know.
But a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (18:21):
Nowhere near the one million dollar hospital bill, so
it's fine.
It's that's whatever it is,whatever it costs.
Yeah, yeah.
Holly, what do the physicalCOVID setbacks feel like for
you?
You said that you had a 10-weekthis this year.
SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Yeah, the hardest part is pain comes.
So the first week, it'sinteresting.
I almost know the pattern, sothat's another thing I'm
realizing.
So I think people apply this tohow you are with your health or
your listeners, is who I'mtalking to.
Think about like when you startgetting really stressed, like
stress is causes everything.
Like that is literally the causeof any ailment at some point.
(18:59):
So I'll get like the first week,I'm super tired and then just
fatigue.
Like, I'm not a napper.
I love to be able to be nappingevery day, but I just never do.
I don't stop that way.
And I'll be like, no, I'm gonnago lay down for an hour, and
then I'm a totally differentperson.
When I wake up, I have energyagain.
So it's that fatigue would comethe first week, and then the
second week, the pain set in.
(19:20):
So I was going from a four toseven pain from a scale from one
to ten all day long.
I never could get rid of it.
The back of my legs ached.
Like I literally, I could tellyou I ached from head to toe.
So, like a fibromyalgia wasthere.
I never had that before.
I had the pulmonary fibrosisfrom the lung disease, which by
the way, okay, another miracle.
(19:41):
I went from them telling me Ineeded to be on a transplant
list, lung transplant list,which by the way is worse than a
heart transplant, and it onlygives you another 10 years.
So it's a two to four yearlifespan, what they they gave me
this diagnosis.
Or you get a lung transplant andmaybe it'll give you another 10,
which some people live 20,whatever.
But that was my diagnosis.
(20:02):
And I went to a newpulmonologist this year, and he
told me yearly I have to do thetest to see if it's getting
worse.
And I know it's not because I'mI'm not feeling worse, other
than when I have setbacks.
And he said, You don't even needto come do the test next year.
If you want to, you can, but youdon't even need to do that.
And I thought, score, that's thepower of mindset.
(20:22):
When you focus on wellness, youcan heal yourself.
I mean, there nobody reallyknows with pulmonary fibrosis
with COVID because nobody had itbefore.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (20:34):
Yeah.
So uncharted territory, you'rethere.
SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Like this is slow down, figure out.
But the fatigue really holdsyou, that holds you back, but
the pain's hard.
I found a natural botanical thatI found a few years ago, about
three years ago.
And I don't even take themhardly ever anymore.
But I was taking a lot of those.
It was costing me about probably900 a month just to have those.
There were like 19 differentones I would take, but there was
a pain little concoction I woulddo.
(21:00):
It was like a muscle relaxer, aTylenol, and an ibuprofen, but
they're all botanical, they wereall natural.
And I popped those suckers, andmy in 10 minutes, if I started
to get a headache, it would begone in 10 minutes.
Like if it just really helped.
And sometimes I'd have to takedouble the amount.
Redheads, by the way, have adifferent tolerance to stuff.
And so when I was in thehospital, they were giving me
(21:20):
fentanyl and oxycodone.
And my daughter was in therethat day, and she said, I think
I saved your life that daybecause what happened was being
a redhead, I you metabolizedifferently.
So she said they were likeoverdosing me and withdrawing me
at the same time.
The fentanyl would be everyhour, and my body would
metabolize it every 20 minutes.
So it was just this dance oftrying to figure out like the
(21:43):
how it works and what's notgonna kill me or what's gonna
be.
SPEAKER_02 (21:51):
Yeah, like we don't, we we just push through.
We're like, I got I got stuff todo.
I don't have time to take a nap,I don't have time to get some
more sleep, whatever that,whatever that looks like.
SPEAKER_01 (22:02):
It's huge, especially for the biggest
message I'd like to say too isyou don't have to have your own
near death experience toexperience a shift.
And the shift is my near deathshift is the book name, but the
shift stands for surrender,hope, intuition, faith, and
transformation.
And it's basically finding thatfor yourself.
(22:22):
You don't have to almost die todecide you're going to live.
SPEAKER_02 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't wait for that to happen.
SPEAKER_01 (22:30):
There's signals, just pay attention.
SPEAKER_02 (22:32):
And listen, and and everybody's completely
different.
We all have different signals,but we know we all, every one of
us knows when something's notwhen something's awfully right.
Yeah, recognizing it.
SPEAKER_01 (22:44):
I love that.
Sorry, that wasn't veryconversational.
I hogged it all.
That's okay.
This is an awesome message.
SPEAKER_03 (22:50):
So exactly.
I was gonna ask if you have anykey takeaways from the book that
you'd like to share with ourlisteners outside of the SHIFT
acronym.
So that's an important piece.
But do you have any keys thatyou'd like to to leave us with?
SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
The I mean, the biggest message that I love is
the love of where they're atbecause that just changes it,
just changes everything.
I think if one, if that's onetakeaway that somebody could
walk away with, I would say thatwould be that would be a huge
one.
I mean, it just next time youlook at someone, I mean, we all
tend to judge.
(23:22):
It's just human nature.
Next time you look at someoneand have a thought that might
not be so positive about aperson or or driving on the
road, just I want you toremember that.
I love them where they're at andjust give them grace and find
the joy in the little stuff.
Little shit.
I had a guy, I'll tell you thisreal quick.
I gave that message to a guy ayear ago, about a year and a
(23:44):
half ago.
We were on a business cruise andhe was a therapist, and he was
actually from Puerto Rico.
So we stayed up all nighttalking one time and told him
all these stories.
And he said to me, when I toldhim the love and where they're
at, he had told me he had a lotof hate in his heart for all
these perpetrators and people,you know, he's had to have he's
had to fix the people that havedone, you know, from the damage
(24:05):
and how much hate he had towardsthose.
And when I gave him thatmessage, he sent me a WhatsApp
and he sent me a message acouple of times about it since.
And he said, You changed mylife.
He said that my whole feelingaround that is so different now.
You're right, it's not my placeto judge.
I need to just love people wherethey're at.
And he said it kind of in hisown words, and I loved it.
(24:25):
I thought, wow, to that wholecruise was worth going on to
know that that one person nowcan help so many more because
they're not judging and hating.
SPEAKER_02 (24:33):
Yeah, it would be a much nicer world if we could all
have that motto.
Love them where they're at.
Beautiful.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
Holly, if someone wants to work with you or get a
hold of the book, where can theyfind it?
So release date, I think we'veshared it, 1111.
Where is it available?
SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
I'll give you my link tree and it has every it
has the website, the book,everything will be on there.
So if they have that link, theycan get to anything, all my
social media, everything onthere.
Be the easiest.
SPEAKER_03 (25:00):
Perfect.
SPEAKER_01 (25:01):
I love it.
I love it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:02):
That's fabulous.
We'll make sure that we put allof your contact information and
the link tree in the show notesas well.
That's fabulous.
Thank you for that.
Oh my goodness.
Anything that we haven't touchedon today, Holly.
SPEAKER_01 (25:11):
Oh gosh, who knows?
SPEAKER_02 (25:13):
I'll lay in bed tonight and say, I didn't say
that.
We'll just have you on againafter the book has launched
because you'll probably have newrevelations after the book comes
out.
SPEAKER_01 (25:26):
Well, I knew when I so this is my 17th book, and
there's 17 chapters.
I'm a numbers girl.
Um seven and one, it's eight,and eight's a great prosperity
number and good numberabundance.
And I knew when I came out, oneof the first intuition things
hits I got when I was out of thehospital, and it was kind of
like, dang, I have two books towrite.
(25:46):
And I, I mean, I've I alreadyhad at that time, I think I had
13 or 14, and they're not allmine, there's some I've been
part of as chapters in otherpeople's books.
And I was like, dang, I have twomore.
I thought I was done.
And I know this is this is likethe book.
Like, I'm gonna be more proud ofthis one than any other.
It's it's under spirituality andpersonal development.
(26:07):
So the first half is my stories,a lot of these that I told you,
but in more detail.
And the second half is the shiftand the eight, eight different
things that I learned, you know,lessons that I learned and kind
of like a life will.
I kind of use that.
And I had already created itlike five years ago for this
prosperity event that I wasdoing in every six months live,
(26:27):
and never created a programaround it.
And it was so weird because oneday it dawned on me that it's
for this.
I was like, oh, it's so weirdhow later you're like, wow, I
didn't realize I didn't have aprogram around it because the
program's this.
This is just another shift, youknow?
SPEAKER_03 (26:42):
Yeah, kind of fun.
I love that.
Well, congratulations,congratulations on book 17, 17
chapters.
Infinity itself.
That's fabulous.
I love it.
I love that.
This has been an absolutepleasure.
Thank you, thank you, thank youfor sharing your story with us.
SPEAKER_02 (26:58):
So fun.
Well, I appreciate you havingme.
SPEAKER_03 (27:01):
Absolutely, absolutely.
And for our listeners, we willmake sure that we put Holly's
contact information and links tothe book so that you can grab a
copy of the book, especially ifyou're listening to this after
1111, that you can grab a copyof the book.
If you're interested in knowingabout what's happening in the
world of Reignite Resilience,you all know.
Head on over toReigniteResilience.com to catch
up with what's going on.
Until next time, we'll see youall soon.
(27:23):
Hi, everyone.
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Thank you for joining us today on the Reignite
Resilience podcast.
We hope you had some aha momentsand learned a few new real life
ideas to fuel the flames ofpassion.
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