August 27, 2025 • 17 mins
In this deeply personal episode, Natalie and Pam discuss Pam's transformative experience during a three-day virtual silent retreat, exploring how disconnecting completely opened doors to profound inner clarity and emotional release.
• Pam shares Rumi's powerful poem "The Guest House" which served as a guiding philosophy for welcoming all emotions
• The physical and emotional challenges of transitioning into complete silence, including physical symptoms that arose as part of the clearing process
• How movement meditation helped break through energetic blocks when traditional sitting meditation became difficult
• The jarring contrast between the peaceful silence of retreat and the bombardment of notifications when returning to normal life
• Discussion about how morning routines might need evolution as our spiritual practices deepen
• Practical advice for listeners interested in exploring silence, from full retreats to small periods of intentional disconnection
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Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All of us reach a point in time where we are
depleted and need to somehowfind a way to reignite the fire
within.
But how do we spark that flame?
Welcome to Reignite Resilience,where we will venture into the
heart of the human spirit.
Resilience where we willventure into the heart of the
(00:27):
human spirit.
We'll discuss the art ofreigniting our passion and
strategies to stoke ourenthusiasm.
And now here are your hosts,natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The morning session she read another passage from
Rumi and I wanted to read itbecause it's like what we're
doing.
It's what we're doing here inthis, and it's Rumi's passage
called the Guest House.
Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't think I am.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh my God, Okay, I'm going to read it, okay, perfect.
This being human is a guesthouse.
Every morning a new arrival, ajoy, a depression, a meanness,
some monetary awareness comes asan unexpected visitor.
Welcome and entertain them all,even if they're a crowd of
sorrows who violently sweep yourhouse empty of its furniture.
(01:17):
Still treat each guesthonorably.
He may be clearing you out forsome new delight.
The dark thought, the shame,the malice.
Meet them at the door laughingand invite them in.
Be grateful for whoever comes,because each has been sent as a
guide from beyond.
That's what resilience.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wow, that's powerful.
I was like holy shit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Sorry, I cussed guys, it was just powerful.
That's real, that's powerful.
I was like holy shit, that'ssorry, I cuss guys, it was just
powerful and it was.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's real, that's it yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And it was funny Cause she talked about this is
about enlightenment, and shegoes if you don't like that word
, and I didn't like that word,and so I was like, well, what
would be other words?
And it was inner clarity.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But here was what was interesting, cause I was able
to meditate and it ended upbeing a beautiful experience.
I was so grateful I did it andit's probably something I want
to do like every year, almostlike a reset.
I think would be a great reset,but here's what happened.
So seven o'clock was coming andI had everything turned off and
then seven o'clock came and Iturned my phone on and it was
(02:23):
rapid fire text messages, I gotyour client under contract and
it was like this overwhelmingstress and I'm like shit, this
is what I didn't miss.
And I told yourself right out ofit too right Like in that scene
, what I should have done wastold people that Monday morning
(02:44):
and I should have allowed myselfthat evening.
The beautiful thing was I hadto make a couple of calls but I
kind of then ignored everything.
I went downstairs and the kidshad made me dinner and it was
hilarious because Ashlyn waslike I actually enjoyed it
because I talk to people all thetime, so I don't mind not
talking to people.
But Dylan was like I don't likewhen you don't talk.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh, wow Well.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'm like well, okay, Well, just remember that.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
For the two of them especially.
Like you two need to rememberthat.
You had that conversation.
You and I were talking aboutthat.
My youngest daughter and I arethe same.
Like we can keep all day long,but if we do, we both realize I
need a minute.
It's not like a minute, it's, Ineed a day.
I just need a day ofnon-talking, like we can talk
and then we don't talk.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
which is why this podcast doesn't go out every
single day, because Absolutely,cause I'm an introvert, I have
to have my downtime or I am nota nice person.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, just ask my kids yes, okay, so hold on.
I feel like we skipped Sunday,so this really-.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, that passage was Sunday.
Okay, I was able to get in themeditations very quickly.
I was completely rested,obviously.
I slept for nine hours, so Iwas able to do all the
meditations that day.
I did a bunch of walks out innature and it wasn't as hard as
I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was weird.
What about the voices?
Were those?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
quieting down.
They were totally quiet becauseevery time I would close my
eyes, I would instantly seecolors and so, but here's what I
did do because you know I'm aslow learner.
I went to chat GPT and I saidokay, this is what I saw when I
was meditating.
What does this mean?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's interesting.
I'm curious.
It must mean something.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And then it gave me this whole thing and I started
to read it and I'm like stop it,put it away, just be curious.
It doesn't have to meananything, but I thought it was
hilarious.
Our brain is so like.
I got to understand this.
I got to understand why did youhear mom and you wake up?
Why did you blah?
Because the guide, when she wasguiding us through this, told
(04:51):
us about these two dreams thatshe had, and it was part of her
kind of spiritual awakening kindof a thing, and I was just like
.
So when I heard the mom, I waslike, oh my God, what does that
mean?
Yes, so I'm just going to becurious.
And she told us she goes, don'tlet this stop, keep meditating.
Have I meditated since then?
No, because I've just been backto my old habits.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You got back into your morning routine, something
that's interesting, pam.
We've done our morning routineslike pretty religiously for I
don't know if that's the rightword for quite some time, and
this season, I'm going to say,of my life, I keep getting like
the tap on the shoulder of youneed to revisit it, like you've
got to change some things up.
This is not what you'resupposed to be doing.
(05:34):
It's not what it's supposed tolook like.
Do I know what it looks like?
No, but I keep getting thislike it needs to look different,
and so when I figured that out,I'll let you know.
But you went right back intothat.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're like, okay, you know what, let me get up and
have a cup of coffee.
And it's so funny because nowthat you say that, I will say
the morning routine this weekhas felt different.
It is felt much more like atask than it has something I
wanted to do, and so maybe whatneeds to happen is my morning
routine needs to be thrown outthe window and I just need to
(06:06):
spend, instead of that, 40minutes doing my morning routine
.
It's a 40 minutes of doingmeditation.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, 100%.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And so stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I am a guided meditation person, so if I
Silent meditation Silentmeditation is hard for me it is
hard.
I would enjoy going throughthat silent retreat just to be
able to get to that place ofstillness and silence.
I think that's huge.
I mean it took you half a dayto realize, and I think that's
telling your brain.
(06:35):
It's like you're cute, we'renot turning anything on, we're
not having the conversation,we're actually going to do this,
and your brain like gets onboard right, like it's, you know
, just trying to just do whatit's used to doing, and then it
needs to just be quiet for aminute.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It just needs to be shh, like, shh.
And it's funny cause I wasspeaking on an event just a
little bit ago and somebodyasked about something and I said
, well, I just got off of athree-day silent retreat and
they're like, can we bring youback for a session just on that
silent retreat?
I'm like, yeah, sure, Everybodyin there, they're all like in
leadership positions and theywere just like, wait, what
Silent retreat?
She told us when she did herfirst silent retreat.
(07:10):
It was seven days.
I don't know if I could doseven days and it was in person.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know that made me just I remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes, just so everybody has reference.
Just so everybody has reference, you can go back and listen to
our prior episode with RachelJane Groover.
She talks about the silentretreat.
When we interviewed her didn'tgo into deep detail, but it was
in person and I rememberthinking absolutely not, there's
no way seven days yeah sevendays is a lot.
Three days is a nice intro.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I have a feeling that you're gonna go to five, your
next one and then soon we'llhear interesting and I wouldn't
mind maybe finding a silentretreat somewhere else, like
away from home, that I can justgo to, because it was pretty
powerful.
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's what you should ask ChatGPT, not the
meaning of life.
Don't ask ChatGPT that.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, not the meaning of life, just my dreams, my head
, all the crap going on my head,the hummingbird, the butterfly,
the colors, the eyeball, theblah, all the things.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I've never seen an eyeball, but I have had
different experiences just doinglike guided meditations
independently.
When you have that collectivethough, I think that's another
important piece that it's reallypowerful that we don't want to
miss is you had almost 40 peoplearound the world and you had
all of those people that werelocal.
Just the power of thecollective coming together.
That in itself, like amplifiesit, tenets right Like you're
(08:31):
already going into a space.
That's go ahead.
Yeah, oh, I totally justremembered.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, so on Friday and Saturday afternoon for 40
minutes we did a movement.
So we did a movement meditationwhere we stood up and we were
doing like tapping and likejumping and like stretches and
stuff like that.
So when I came off of thesleeping and I didn't feel good,
we did that energy clearing.
(08:57):
After that was when I was ableto meditate again.
So I think that I had all ofthis energy that was like built
up and some of it was thatnegative energy and so just by
releasing that, and then we didit the next day and it same
thing.
It was just like, oh my gosh,you just felt so good just
moving your body and sheliterally was like all right,
clear the energy, like we didthe tapping and the jumping and
(09:20):
stuff, and that was 40 minutesof meditating that I liked.
So I totally forgot about thatbecause that's what got me from
lying on the floor feelingnauseous and gross to being able
to get back into the meditatingand enjoying the rest of the
evening and then sleeping like ababy.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm sure I'm sure you were exhausted.
The thing that comes up for meand that I think that people
need to think about we talkabout it all the time, but I
don't know if we actually likegive ourselves the moments to
embrace all three.
But we talk about mind, body,spirit, right, and so, like you
were removing one of the three,right?
So it's like mind, I need youto just hang tight.
We're going to do some workwith the spirit right now, Like
(09:58):
what is my inner self, my higherself, whatever it is, like the
person inside of me or thelarger person that is.
We're going to do work there.
And again we go back to thisbeing your first experience
doing a silent retreat.
You started to unpack things.
We don't need to determineexactly what you unpacked.
That's how your body respondedto it.
(10:18):
It was like, well, let's expelthis, because we don't know what
rug we had it under.
But now it's out and we got todo something with it, and so
that movement was like get itout, let's expel it out of the
body.
It's no longer here, we're done, we don't need to hold onto it
anymore which is huge.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I was just thinking that they recorded this entire
weekend, so I could actually doanother silent retreat just by
watching the recordings.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Independently, by yourself Independently if I
wanted to.
Wow, have you journaled toreflect on this?
No, I mean, I'm not going to gointo it, you do whatever you
want, but I just think I knowthat, like 12 months from now,
well, you'll have a podcastthat's going to capture what you
felt.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Exactly this podcast will be there and, who knows, in
one of our next books thatwe're writing that's true
Probably will come up becausewe've just different phases.
It's so interesting.
So this was a powerful weekend.
(11:15):
If you have an opportunity todo some sort of a silent retreat
, highly recommend it, becausewe are constantly bombarded with
stuff all day, every day, and Iknow a lot of people that are
like, oh, I can't quiet my brainand I was like, yeah, no, not
many of us can no.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think some people do a better job than others.
But it's hard to really liketruly sit and silence me with
your inner self.
How do you feel now that it'sall said and done, because we're
four days past retreat?
How are you feeling, like, justin terms of your interactions
with other people, how you'reshowing up in your spaces, how
you look at yourself in themirror?
Like how does all that cometogether?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I don't think I've fully unpacked it yet.
You know what I mean.
I think I just got right backon the train and was like back
on my gerbil wheel whatever youwant to call it this weekend,
because it's just been so busysince seven o'clock.
And so I'm going to get awayfor this weekend and I think I
want to take some time to justdo some reflection and
(12:11):
journaling.
That actually might be mymorning routine.
Tomorrow is just a free journal, freehand journal, just to
unpack, like all of the thingsthat I'm feeling, because
sometimes it's scary to look at,thinking about.
When I was reflecting on whenshe said you know what are the
conditions, I was superemotional.
And then when she talked aboutthe other, the guest house, and
I'm like I want to get thatpassage, I was like that is a
(12:34):
powerful passage that I've neverheard of.
That reflection work is hardand it's scary because you're
looking yourself right in themirror.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So, to be continued, I love it, and I think the other
piece is recognizing that youhad opened yourself up when that
passage was shared.
You were open and receptiveanyway, and so it probably hit
really deep, really fast, whichis what triggers the body's
emotional response right theenergetic response that we have,
(13:01):
yeah.
With the tears and things.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's awesome so you would doit again.
Highly recommend 10 out 10.
You recommend.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I highly recommend.
It is not for the faint ofheart and you have to be all in
and I would still probably do itas long as I've got a space
where it was like a different,like it was different.
So I didn't have any need toclean that room or do anything,
I just slept in it and then left.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I would imagine that you're probably more comfortable
in your own space.
I know that you said that youwould do it elsewhere, but like
if you were in a hotel, you'rekind of confined to 400 square
feet or whatever, and I wantedto be comfortable, I wanted to
be able to go on a walk.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I knew that at the retreat center I'd be sitting in
an uncomfortable chair or I'dbe sitting on the hard floor,
and I was just like you knowwhat I lay a pillow on my carpet
and wrap up in a blanket if Iwant to, and last thing I want
to do is lug all that stuff toretreat center my pillow, my
blanket, all the things Exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm glad that you didn't burst into flames.
I did not.
I'm still here so.
I love it.
Well, that's a good thing.
We're happy that you're herewith all of us still, so that's
a good thing, yes, and thenyou'll have to let us know, like
as you do the journaling andthe download, just that,
download free journaling, justif anything else pops up for you
, because, yeah, I think, asyour guide mentioned, it's not
(14:19):
going to end at 7 PM on Sunday,right?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, you don't want it to end, you don't want to
just go right back to what youwere doing.
You really do want to keep thisas a practice, so that you're
more intentionally showing upfor things.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What's the suggestion on how often you should do it?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
She said if you can, twice a day to meditate for 40
minutes, it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Baby steps.
You did a three, three day.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think you can do it but I might try 30 minute
meditation in the morning andthen journaling after the
meditation, and maybe thatbecomes my new morning routine.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So yeah, exactly you know because here's what I do.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
On my morning routine .
I'm typically writing lists ofwhat I'm going to do that day,
so it's all my tasks but it'sstill the writing right.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like you're still getting the writing part of it
done, but if you do themeditation it's not going to be
the list, it'll be fine.
Like do the list first and thengo into the meditation.
Yeah, I love it.
Oh my gosh, any advice for ourlisteners if they're wanting to
do you know what I would say?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
just if you're interested or curious about it,
google silent retreats near youbecause I know there's silent
retreats and start small.
But I would highly recommend it.
And if you can't do that, picka day or an afternoon or
whatever where your phone is off, your computer is off, you
(15:44):
don't do any chores, you justare present.
Maybe that's where you start.
And no social media, nolistening to books, no reading,
I mean nothing, but just quietreflection, and maybe start
there.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Love that.
I think that's great advice.
It's a good starting point.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Good starting point, don't dive in.
I just jumped into the deep end.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, I was just saying that Don't dive into the
deep end, don't dive into the.
I just jumped into the deep end.
Yeah, I was just saying that.
I was just saying that Don'tdive into the deep end, don't
dive into the deep end, like Idid, and if you all do it, we
want to hear about it.
So, like, make sure that yousend us your feedback or comment
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We'd love to hear if you'veparticipated in something like
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If you're curious and learningmore, reach out to us.
Reach out to Pam.
Pam will be able to let youknow about all of that.
I've not done it so I can'tspeak to it, just observing and
witnessing it.
It sounds like it wasphenomenal.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So I'm glad that you're able to share that
experience with us.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Me too.
Me too, yeah, oh my gosh.
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Resilience.
All of us reach a point in time where we are
depleted and need to somehowfind a way to reignite the fire
within.
But how do we spark that flame?
Welcome to Reignite Resilience,where we will venture into the
heart of the human spirit.
Resilience where we willventure into the heart of the
(00:27):
human spirit.
We'll discuss the art ofreigniting our passion and
strategies to stoke ourenthusiasm.
And now here are your hosts,natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The morning session she read another passage from
Rumi and I wanted to read itbecause it's like what we're
doing.
It's what we're doing here inthis, and it's Rumi's passage
called the Guest House.
Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't think I am.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh my God, Okay, I'm going to read it, okay, perfect.
This being human is a guesthouse.
Every morning a new arrival, ajoy, a depression, a meanness,
some monetary awareness comes asan unexpected visitor.
Welcome and entertain them all,even if they're a crowd of
sorrows who violently sweep yourhouse empty of its furniture.
(01:17):
Still treat each guesthonorably.
He may be clearing you out forsome new delight.
The dark thought, the shame,the malice.
Meet them at the door laughingand invite them in.
Be grateful for whoever comes,because each has been sent as a
guide from beyond.
That's what resilience.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wow, that's powerful.
I was like holy shit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Sorry, I cussed guys, it was just powerful.
That's real, that's powerful.
I was like holy shit, that'ssorry, I cuss guys, it was just
powerful and it was.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's real, that's it yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And it was funny Cause she talked about this is
about enlightenment, and shegoes if you don't like that word
, and I didn't like that word,and so I was like, well, what
would be other words?
And it was inner clarity.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But here was what was interesting, cause I was able
to meditate and it ended upbeing a beautiful experience.
I was so grateful I did it andit's probably something I want
to do like every year, almostlike a reset.
I think would be a great reset,but here's what happened.
So seven o'clock was coming andI had everything turned off and
then seven o'clock came and Iturned my phone on and it was
(02:23):
rapid fire text messages, I gotyour client under contract and
it was like this overwhelmingstress and I'm like shit, this
is what I didn't miss.
And I told yourself right out ofit too right Like in that scene
, what I should have done wastold people that Monday morning
(02:44):
and I should have allowed myselfthat evening.
The beautiful thing was I hadto make a couple of calls but I
kind of then ignored everything.
I went downstairs and the kidshad made me dinner and it was
hilarious because Ashlyn waslike I actually enjoyed it
because I talk to people all thetime, so I don't mind not
talking to people.
But Dylan was like I don't likewhen you don't talk.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh, wow Well.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'm like well, okay, Well, just remember that.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
For the two of them especially.
Like you two need to rememberthat.
You had that conversation.
You and I were talking aboutthat.
My youngest daughter and I arethe same.
Like we can keep all day long,but if we do, we both realize I
need a minute.
It's not like a minute, it's, Ineed a day.
I just need a day ofnon-talking, like we can talk
and then we don't talk.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
which is why this podcast doesn't go out every
single day, because Absolutely,cause I'm an introvert, I have
to have my downtime or I am nota nice person.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, just ask my kids yes, okay, so hold on.
I feel like we skipped Sunday,so this really-.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, that passage was Sunday.
Okay, I was able to get in themeditations very quickly.
I was completely rested,obviously.
I slept for nine hours, so Iwas able to do all the
meditations that day.
I did a bunch of walks out innature and it wasn't as hard as
I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was weird.
What about the voices?
Were those?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
quieting down.
They were totally quiet becauseevery time I would close my
eyes, I would instantly seecolors and so, but here's what I
did do because you know I'm aslow learner.
I went to chat GPT and I saidokay, this is what I saw when I
was meditating.
What does this mean?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's interesting.
I'm curious.
It must mean something.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And then it gave me this whole thing and I started
to read it and I'm like stop it,put it away, just be curious.
It doesn't have to meananything, but I thought it was
hilarious.
Our brain is so like.
I got to understand this.
I got to understand why did youhear mom and you wake up?
Why did you blah?
Because the guide, when she wasguiding us through this, told
(04:51):
us about these two dreams thatshe had, and it was part of her
kind of spiritual awakening kindof a thing, and I was just like
.
So when I heard the mom, I waslike, oh my God, what does that
mean?
Yes, so I'm just going to becurious.
And she told us she goes, don'tlet this stop, keep meditating.
Have I meditated since then?
No, because I've just been backto my old habits.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You got back into your morning routine, something
that's interesting, pam.
We've done our morning routineslike pretty religiously for I
don't know if that's the rightword for quite some time, and
this season, I'm going to say,of my life, I keep getting like
the tap on the shoulder of youneed to revisit it, like you've
got to change some things up.
This is not what you'resupposed to be doing.
(05:34):
It's not what it's supposed tolook like.
Do I know what it looks like?
No, but I keep getting thislike it needs to look different,
and so when I figured that out,I'll let you know.
But you went right back intothat.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're like, okay, you know what, let me get up and
have a cup of coffee.
And it's so funny because nowthat you say that, I will say
the morning routine this weekhas felt different.
It is felt much more like atask than it has something I
wanted to do, and so maybe whatneeds to happen is my morning
routine needs to be thrown outthe window and I just need to
(06:06):
spend, instead of that, 40minutes doing my morning routine
.
It's a 40 minutes of doingmeditation.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, 100%.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And so stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I am a guided meditation person, so if I
Silent meditation Silentmeditation is hard for me it is
hard.
I would enjoy going throughthat silent retreat just to be
able to get to that place ofstillness and silence.
I think that's huge.
I mean it took you half a dayto realize, and I think that's
telling your brain.
(06:35):
It's like you're cute, we'renot turning anything on, we're
not having the conversation,we're actually going to do this,
and your brain like gets onboard right, like it's, you know
, just trying to just do whatit's used to doing, and then it
needs to just be quiet for aminute.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It just needs to be shh, like, shh.
And it's funny cause I wasspeaking on an event just a
little bit ago and somebodyasked about something and I said
, well, I just got off of athree-day silent retreat and
they're like, can we bring youback for a session just on that
silent retreat?
I'm like, yeah, sure, Everybodyin there, they're all like in
leadership positions and theywere just like, wait, what
Silent retreat?
She told us when she did herfirst silent retreat.
(07:10):
It was seven days.
I don't know if I could doseven days and it was in person.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know that made me just I remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes, just so everybody has reference.
Just so everybody has reference, you can go back and listen to
our prior episode with RachelJane Groover.
She talks about the silentretreat.
When we interviewed her didn'tgo into deep detail, but it was
in person and I rememberthinking absolutely not, there's
no way seven days yeah sevendays is a lot.
Three days is a nice intro.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I have a feeling that you're gonna go to five, your
next one and then soon we'llhear interesting and I wouldn't
mind maybe finding a silentretreat somewhere else, like
away from home, that I can justgo to, because it was pretty
powerful.
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's what you should ask ChatGPT, not the
meaning of life.
Don't ask ChatGPT that.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, not the meaning of life, just my dreams, my head
, all the crap going on my head,the hummingbird, the butterfly,
the colors, the eyeball, theblah, all the things.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I've never seen an eyeball, but I have had
different experiences just doinglike guided meditations
independently.
When you have that collectivethough, I think that's another
important piece that it's reallypowerful that we don't want to
miss is you had almost 40 peoplearound the world and you had
all of those people that werelocal.
Just the power of thecollective coming together.
That in itself, like amplifiesit, tenets right Like you're
(08:31):
already going into a space.
That's go ahead.
Yeah, oh, I totally justremembered.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, so on Friday and Saturday afternoon for 40
minutes we did a movement.
So we did a movement meditationwhere we stood up and we were
doing like tapping and likejumping and like stretches and
stuff like that.
So when I came off of thesleeping and I didn't feel good,
we did that energy clearing.
(08:57):
After that was when I was ableto meditate again.
So I think that I had all ofthis energy that was like built
up and some of it was thatnegative energy and so just by
releasing that, and then we didit the next day and it same
thing.
It was just like, oh my gosh,you just felt so good just
moving your body and sheliterally was like all right,
clear the energy, like we didthe tapping and the jumping and
(09:20):
stuff, and that was 40 minutesof meditating that I liked.
So I totally forgot about thatbecause that's what got me from
lying on the floor feelingnauseous and gross to being able
to get back into the meditatingand enjoying the rest of the
evening and then sleeping like ababy.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm sure I'm sure you were exhausted.
The thing that comes up for meand that I think that people
need to think about we talkabout it all the time, but I
don't know if we actually likegive ourselves the moments to
embrace all three.
But we talk about mind, body,spirit, right, and so, like you
were removing one of the three,right?
So it's like mind, I need youto just hang tight.
We're going to do some workwith the spirit right now, Like
(09:58):
what is my inner self, my higherself, whatever it is, like the
person inside of me or thelarger person that is.
We're going to do work there.
And again we go back to thisbeing your first experience
doing a silent retreat.
You started to unpack things.
We don't need to determineexactly what you unpacked.
That's how your body respondedto it.
(10:18):
It was like, well, let's expelthis, because we don't know what
rug we had it under.
But now it's out and we got todo something with it, and so
that movement was like get itout, let's expel it out of the
body.
It's no longer here, we're done, we don't need to hold onto it
anymore which is huge.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I was just thinking that they recorded this entire
weekend, so I could actually doanother silent retreat just by
watching the recordings.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Independently, by yourself Independently if I
wanted to.
Wow, have you journaled toreflect on this?
No, I mean, I'm not going to gointo it, you do whatever you
want, but I just think I knowthat, like 12 months from now,
well, you'll have a podcastthat's going to capture what you
felt.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Exactly this podcast will be there and, who knows, in
one of our next books thatwe're writing that's true
Probably will come up becausewe've just different phases.
It's so interesting.
So this was a powerful weekend.
(11:15):
If you have an opportunity todo some sort of a silent retreat
, highly recommend it, becausewe are constantly bombarded with
stuff all day, every day, and Iknow a lot of people that are
like, oh, I can't quiet my brainand I was like, yeah, no, not
many of us can no.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think some people do a better job than others.
But it's hard to really liketruly sit and silence me with
your inner self.
How do you feel now that it'sall said and done, because we're
four days past retreat?
How are you feeling, like, justin terms of your interactions
with other people, how you'reshowing up in your spaces, how
you look at yourself in themirror?
Like how does all that cometogether?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I don't think I've fully unpacked it yet.
You know what I mean.
I think I just got right backon the train and was like back
on my gerbil wheel whatever youwant to call it this weekend,
because it's just been so busysince seven o'clock.
And so I'm going to get awayfor this weekend and I think I
want to take some time to justdo some reflection and
(12:11):
journaling.
That actually might be mymorning routine.
Tomorrow is just a free journal, freehand journal, just to
unpack, like all of the thingsthat I'm feeling, because
sometimes it's scary to look at,thinking about.
When I was reflecting on whenshe said you know what are the
conditions, I was superemotional.
And then when she talked aboutthe other, the guest house, and
I'm like I want to get thatpassage, I was like that is a
(12:34):
powerful passage that I've neverheard of.
That reflection work is hardand it's scary because you're
looking yourself right in themirror.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So, to be continued, I love it, and I think the other
piece is recognizing that youhad opened yourself up when that
passage was shared.
You were open and receptiveanyway, and so it probably hit
really deep, really fast, whichis what triggers the body's
emotional response right theenergetic response that we have,
(13:01):
yeah.
With the tears and things.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's awesome so you would doit again.
Highly recommend 10 out 10.
You recommend.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I highly recommend.
It is not for the faint ofheart and you have to be all in
and I would still probably do itas long as I've got a space
where it was like a different,like it was different.
So I didn't have any need toclean that room or do anything,
I just slept in it and then left.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I would imagine that you're probably more comfortable
in your own space.
I know that you said that youwould do it elsewhere, but like
if you were in a hotel, you'rekind of confined to 400 square
feet or whatever, and I wantedto be comfortable, I wanted to
be able to go on a walk.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I knew that at the retreat center I'd be sitting in
an uncomfortable chair or I'dbe sitting on the hard floor,
and I was just like you knowwhat I lay a pillow on my carpet
and wrap up in a blanket if Iwant to, and last thing I want
to do is lug all that stuff toretreat center my pillow, my
blanket, all the things Exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm glad that you didn't burst into flames.
I did not.
I'm still here so.
I love it.
Well, that's a good thing.
We're happy that you're herewith all of us still, so that's
a good thing, yes, and thenyou'll have to let us know, like
as you do the journaling andthe download, just that,
download free journaling, justif anything else pops up for you
, because, yeah, I think, asyour guide mentioned, it's not
(14:19):
going to end at 7 PM on Sunday,right?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, you don't want it to end, you don't want to
just go right back to what youwere doing.
You really do want to keep thisas a practice, so that you're
more intentionally showing upfor things.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What's the suggestion on how often you should do it?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
She said if you can, twice a day to meditate for 40
minutes, it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Baby steps.
You did a three, three day.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think you can do it but I might try 30 minute
meditation in the morning andthen journaling after the
meditation, and maybe thatbecomes my new morning routine.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So yeah, exactly you know because here's what I do.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
On my morning routine .
I'm typically writing lists ofwhat I'm going to do that day,
so it's all my tasks but it'sstill the writing right.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like you're still getting the writing part of it
done, but if you do themeditation it's not going to be
the list, it'll be fine.
Like do the list first and thengo into the meditation.
Yeah, I love it.
Oh my gosh, any advice for ourlisteners if they're wanting to
do you know what I would say?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
just if you're interested or curious about it,
google silent retreats near youbecause I know there's silent
retreats and start small.
But I would highly recommend it.
And if you can't do that, picka day or an afternoon or
whatever where your phone is off, your computer is off, you
(15:44):
don't do any chores, you justare present.
Maybe that's where you start.
And no social media, nolistening to books, no reading,
I mean nothing, but just quietreflection, and maybe start
there.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Love that.
I think that's great advice.
It's a good starting point.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Good starting point, don't dive in.
I just jumped into the deep end.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, I was just saying that Don't dive into the
deep end, don't dive into the.
I just jumped into the deep end.
Yeah, I was just saying that.
I was just saying that Don'tdive into the deep end, don't
dive into the deep end, like Idid, and if you all do it, we
want to hear about it.
So, like, make sure that yousend us your feedback or comment
on the post that we talk aboutthis and you'll see the little
sizzle reel that pops up forthis episode.
We'd love to hear if you'veparticipated in something like
(16:24):
this.
If you're curious and learningmore, reach out to us.
Reach out to Pam.
Pam will be able to let youknow about all of that.
I've not done it so I can'tspeak to it, just observing and
witnessing it.
It sounds like it wasphenomenal.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So I'm glad that you're able to share that
experience with us.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Me too.
Me too, yeah, oh my gosh.
Well, you all know the deal.
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