February 18, 2025 • 62 mins
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After navigating the highs and lows of life, Alma and her sister Raquel, known as the Fisher Girls, found their voices through gospel music. Their journey, shaped by a deep-seated faith and a rich musical heritage, is one of resilience and inspiration. From their early days in elementary school choirs to their professional careers, they share how the Apostolic Church and the loss of their mother became pivotal in reigniting their passion for music. Join us as they open up about their creative process, drawing from personal experiences and a love for poetry that binds them as both siblings and artists.
Discover the intricate dance of songwriting and collaboration, where humility and authenticity are key. Alma and Raquel reflect on their upbringing in Baltimore and the lessons learned at Morgan State, where Raquel honed her musical and theatrical talents. We also discovered how Alma became a published author after attending the University of Baltimore. They share what it means to create music that resonates with modern audiences while holding true to the gospel message. From church performances to theater stages, the Fisher Girls discuss their approach to crafting songs that not only captivate but also connect on a spiritual level.
The Fisher Girls also offer a candid glimpse into the world of independent gospel music, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a small, dedicated team and the role of faith in overcoming industry challenges. They touch on the wisdom found in life's seasons and the significance of authenticity in artistic expression. As they prepare for upcoming performances and continue to inspire through both music and writing, Alma and Raquel invite listeners to join them on this journey of perseverance and creativity, offering a heartfelt connection to their story and their newest release, "I Can Go Home.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, what's today, monday?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Finally here.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I know You're right.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The weather just respect.
Yeah, it was when you said itwas hell and I'm like what?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And we were on our way to you.
It was like what in the world?
It just started hailing.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Out of nowhere.
Yeah, what kind of like, whatsize of the hell I don't know it
.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It just started coming down and then it started
coming out more hard.
I was like I don't know.
I don't know what you'reconcerned about.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, y'all are North too, so a lot of times y'all
going to get a lot more thanwhat we get down here, but
anyways we back at RelationshipsWorth More Than Money podcast.
I am Tweezy.
Who do I have to the right ofme, you lovely ladies?
I am Raquel, raquel, and.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We are the Fisher Girls.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, okay, let's get a little closer.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So I know you through my brother Esquire, y'all say
Terrence.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But when I heard y'all you know, create the song
that y'all had together and heproduced it, I'm like man.
I got to get to know theseladies, who are these beautiful
women, and so I always kept inlike contact, like you know,
following y'all in seeing whaty'all had going on.
Just for a brief, like, justgive us a background of who
(01:19):
y'all are, the Fisher girls, buty'all sisters together,
everything Just go ahead.
Give me the rundown.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
All right.
So yeah, so I started inelementary school.
We both started in elementaryschool, yeah.
And I believe when I was likeeight I received the water,
baptism and spirit baptism, theHoly Ghost, and with Apostolic
Church, you don't participate,like in things with like singing
on a choir and stuff like thatuntil you get the Holy Ghost.
And with Apostolic Church, youdon't participate like in things
with like singing on a choirand stuff like that until you
(01:48):
get the Holy Ghost and stuff.
So I started there also.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And yeah, so we've been singing since we were
children and professionallysince 2019.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah so school choir first, and then after high
school, we were like we don'twant to do um, we were singing
so much as kids yeah we didn'twant to sing in high school.
Like god started to um handleright and in 2015 we lost our
mom.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So that's how it um.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
God started blessing us and then we didn't start
professionally in 2019 sosinging?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
singing is it like a generational thing, like it's
always been, like it runs in thefamily, or like or do y'all
just the first ones from thefamily that started singing?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, actually it's on our father's side, our dad
and our uncles, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So our father and our uncles not sure, Um, if it's
further back than that,definitely our dad.
We know we get from our dad'sside.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
They said it would never matter how our grandmother
could sing, and some of ourcousins could sing it's on our
father's side.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Alright.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So in 2015 you said you guys lost your mom.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah.
And that's when y'all took itprofessional well, god, I could
write songs when I was a kid,like right, like 10, maybe, yeah
, like 10, 9 or 10, yeah, but um, I stopped writing it.
So when we lost our mother, godstarted to, you know, instruct
me to write again.
And then god, um, yes, so I um,before my mom passed.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I would get like little glimpse of like you know,
instruct me to write again.
And then God dealt with Elmer.
Yes, so before my mom passed Iwould get like little glimpse of
like witty things.
I would see that sometimes, butI didn't fully know what it was
.
But when she passed, that'swhen the gift of writing rose up
and I started writing poetry.
And I didn't know.
And the way that I learned wasI wrote something.
My instructor in college, shetold me to write something
(03:44):
mimicking Oscar Wilde.
So I just thought I wasmimicking him and she was like
this is really.
You know, this is great.
Have you heard of this artist?
And I'm like, oh.
So I didn't know, it was a gift.
But then that encouraged me towrite.
And then I wrote some books ofpoetry after that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And that was my next question too far, what was y'all
like writing process, like howdid that?
Because you said you started ata young age, like even me.
Um, I look back at me liketrying to write, rewrite raps
and stuff like that and tryingto rewrite like r&b songs, like
the old ushers and stuff, and tome I'm like man, how do how do
(04:21):
you do it?
And but is it from poetry?
Does poetry help?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, some people say it starts as poetry.
And me writing poetry first.
I guess that's how I write.
I write from poetry.
I write in rhythm a lot of thetime.
Yeah, I write in rhythm.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So for me when I was a child, it was really easy, but
because I took it for grantedwhen god told me to start
writing again in 2015, I didn't.
I wasn't obedient to 2016, likeI remember the month, january,
like beginning of the year Istarted writing.
He made me work for it.
So I had to really relearn howto write songs like well,
attention is my first song godbless us to release, but it's
(05:02):
such a wordy song yeah.
Yeah.
So like the other songs,they're detailed but it's not as
wordy.
So I had to relearn how towrite songs, but when I was a
child I could just it's likethat, noun again.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But God, I had to like earn it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now, you ladies are from Baltimore, right.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Did y'all go to school in Baltimore County or
Baltimore City?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We're from the city.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So we went to school in the city.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, all right, I went to Morgan.
It was the greatest grant Then.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I had to stop.
Did you study at Morgan?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Music.
Did you and I also did amusical theater.
I played Cele in.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Fella Purple.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it was great and I did a couple of leads in
the choir, so it was a reallygreat experience.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's dope, that's dope.
So you went to Morgan and themusic just stayed with you and
you just kept going, kept going.
Talk to me about the upbringing, how you guys was brought up in
Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Because I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So, like I said, you, know Baltimore reminds me of
back home.
It's like the west side ofDetroit or the east side,
depending on what part you're in.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
We were born and raised in the city.
But our mother, she didn't playwith us, she kept us in the
house.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So we lived.
We actually lived in the middleof the projects, but we were in
the house.
And she didn't play with us.
She really protected us.
So it was like we were in thatenvironment, but we weren't in
it.
So Raquel and I, we were verysheltered but we hated it at the
time.
But then we realized later thatit was actually good for us
what part of Baltimore East west.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
East.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But end up, you know, valuing it.
We came growing up.
Oh okay, I'm glad this way wewasn't outside as children, like
we couldn't do a whole lot,like we used to cry.
We wanted to go outside andstuff and I was like my why
being protective of us, but aschildren we hated it Do y'all
have any more siblings?
(07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
How many more?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We have more.
One more we lost two, we havethem.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Thank you.
So, you got?
Is it brother A brother?
Yeah, Older, younger.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, Our brother Dwayne Fisher.
We love him, thank God for him.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Does he sing too?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, he can write.
His children can sing.
Some of them can playinstruments and sing, and I
think most of them can writeEither.
They have some type of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Some type of skill, Something in that area in that
realm.
That's dope.
I think I feel like when youare in that realm of music,
theater, band, what else, acting, you know, it's all like a step
in building block to whereyou're trying to go and it's
(07:59):
just a great scene just to seeit.
When you come from a kid andit's like me for playing in a
band, and then it's like now I'ma producer, now I'm an engineer
, you know what I mean, but I, Ilet it, I let it go, just like
you said, like you know, highschool came I didn't want to be
a bangy, you know.
So it was like no, I would justwant to play sport.
(08:20):
But I regret that because Iwould have learned so many more
instruments because I was was adrummer, you know, I knew my
rudiments, but it was like whenI talked to S, I'm like S, how
you do this, how you do that,and he was like man, I kind of
like trained myself.
I don't even know how to playthe piano for real, for real,
but he trained himself.
And when we collab on a lot ofour beats, I always like, hey,
(08:41):
man, man, play the lead on thisplay, this play that I like the
way, cause it's his feel, andwhat he hears is like our ears
are so gifted yeah, that'sthat's a gift.
You know what I mean when I lookat that.
It's like man like you cancreate music like that and I'm
just like this is crazy.
(09:02):
But for acting, you know, Ithink to me theater is kind of
like the you have to.
You should do theater beforeyou become like a full-fledged
actor.
You know how some people youknow what I'm saying.
Some people just be actors.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't think you should.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, you, just you don't know nothing about the
theater of it, and I went toperforming arts school, oh good.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And we used to do the .
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Wiz a lot Every year.
Sometimes we'll be the musical.
We were the musical for most ofit and I was like man, I want
to act.
I want to do this Because myboy, big John, shout out to him.
He was like the lion.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Curse the lion, or whatever, so it was like you
know, all my friends was the.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know the lead characters or whatever.
But yeah, theater, music,anything of that art form I feel
like, is super dope.
Now you ladies just released asingle on valentine's day.
Yes, right, yeah.
What was the name of thatsingle?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I can go home I can go home.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Did you both write it , or?
Yeah so how does, how does thatprocess works with, like you
know, siblings writing for theyou know writing for the songs.
Y'all write all your'all songstogether, or will anybody take a
?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
lead Well now we do, Like the ideas can come to her
first, depending, and then I'lladd to it, or the idea can come
to me, Then she'll add to it,Like I Can Go Home.
We heard a track, Like a sampletrack or something, and God
only gave me the hook, so Istarted singing I can go home, I
can go.
I started singing it and thenmy niece Aaliyah was like wait,
(10:48):
you just came up with that.
And I was like but God onlygave me the hook.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But, then, me and Alma, when we went home, we came
up with the verse Do you feelcreating the hook or the chorus
first helps you more thancreating a verse, or vice versa?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It depends.
It depends because before Iused to I used to then write the
hook first before I used towrite the verse first.
So I guess, whatever God isleading me, but I do find I do
like when the hook is um, thefoundation of the hook is there,
you can write around it, youcan build from the hook.
So I do like that part.
Yeah, Um you can build from thehook.
So I do like that part and alsotrying to discover what the
hook should be.
(11:26):
Because, full Attention, I waswriting my thoughts.
I just was writing how I wasfeeling and it was pages.
And I remember telling Alma andmy older sister, christina, who
we lost during the time.
I was saying I don't know whatto call it and Tina was so calm.
I'm like girl, she was justlike Tina's very funny.
And I was like girl, she wasjust like Tina's very funny.
And I was like, well, you know,you'll figure it out.
But then I was reading it andthen I was like, oh, full
(11:48):
attention.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Is that the one y'all did with Esquire, with Tarrant?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
No, that's on our EP for Junes that you hear in the
Valley.
Full attention was on the EP,the one with.
Tarrant narrow way.
We did that one later.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But narrow way was the one with Terrence and what
does that mean?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
narrow way my bad, you know y'all got, y'all bought
some.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I know that was you that time?
I'm like who narrow way?
no narrow so the process, y'alltake turns and sometimes you
come up with it, and thensometimes you come up with it,
and then sometimes you come upwith the hook, like you know.
But me personally I think thehook is like what it is, what
leads the song, but it helps youwrite around it and that's the
(12:37):
thing.
So me, I can't just go out andjust write a song.
I just when I'm riding,sometimes I'm listening to my
beats or I'm listening toEsquire or my boy Swim
somebody's beats I can.
It's coming in my head Like Ican hear certain things, but
it's not coming full.
So then sometimes I might justrecord it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Me too.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I might just record the parts that I hear and then
I'd be like yo, what you thinkabout this, or even go in there
and just lay it down and seewhat I can get from it.
But I think that's great tohave not only a sibling doing it
with you, but it's anothercreative you know what.
I mean that can unlocksomething else from you.
(13:19):
How does that work?
Sister-wise, Y'all get into ita lot.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Not as far as songs actually, though Of course
siblings argue yeah, who theoldest?
I don't know Only a year andsome months.
We're very close names.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But as far as songs, I feel like we know what part we
play, uh-huh, and that makessense and we can write
independently, like I'm going towrite, and then I'll write, and
then we'll come together and wewill decide which makes sense.
Yeah, you know, we're not likeoh, thank God, we're never like
that.
Like oh, no, my part needed tobe in here.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's actually whatever is best for the song.
We're not like oh, it has to belike this, or I'm writing this.
Like oh, it has to be like this, or I'm writing this.
No, we really don't care, it'sjust whatever.
Whoever verse is best, it orfits the rhythm of the song, or
we take out and it's just yeah,but like my sister's funny and
it's like our creative juicesget the flow and more.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You know, we bounce off each other and, um, yeah,
like with this, this last song,it was just like she said
something, I said something, Isaid something, she said song.
It was just like she saidsomething, I said something, I
said something, she saidsomething.
It was just going together andI'm like, oh my gosh, and you
know it, just it really workedout and our whole idea was just
really to connect with people.
You know, to let people knowthat they can go home.
(14:38):
They can go, you know, theyturn away from Christ, they can
go to Christ, you know.
So that's the goal.
So it's not about it wasn'tabout like what I think is best,
what she think, you know, it'sabout the ultimate goal.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm glad it's actually now that you said that.
I'm glad it's actually neverlike that.
Like.
We're never like.
Alma wrote a song and I assingers, I mean you're gifted.
You can tell when a song isoriginal if you hear somebody
sing it Right.
So it sounded good and I walkedin the hall and I said that
sounds good, you wrote it andshe wrote it.
So then I end up writing thehook.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What was it what?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
song was it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, she wrote the, she wrote a, she wrote a verse,
I wrote the hook.
But see, the hooks used to cometo me first.
So, when you were sittingaround, like that's how they
used to come to me.
But now it's both ways.
So you know I can write verses,but at first it was just I want
to get a hook, and then wewould build from there, but you
would write verses.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, because verses used to come, hooks come too.
But I can, god bless me, I cando the hook or I can write the
hook and then I'll.
I'll look at the hook and I'llthink about the hook and I'll
write the verses around the hookyes so it's fun, it's fun, but
I forget which one that was.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think it was baby don't you, yes, and she wrote
the second verse and you add itto the hook, I think yeah, it
was, don't you.
And baby, baby, yep Yep yep,yep, yep, Don't you and let you
go.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So how does?
Did y'all always start writinggospel, or was it like R&B?
Did y'all ever dive into R&B oranything?
It just always been gospel.
Okay, I'm hey.
I'm just asking because youknow, sometimes, like some
people don't come from you knowwhat I?
Mean, I'm learning too, becauseyou know like I just got
baptized last October.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Oh, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, thank you.
And like I go, like I went tochurch yesterday at First
Baptist of Glen Arden and likethe production that I always see
, like it's every every weekit's somebody different, so this
week it was the kids Remix.
We call it remix so on.
Sundays, all the kids doeverything.
(16:46):
They, be they the ushers, theyeverything oh, did you call it
the ushers, the ushers they'renot ushers, the ushers.
Okay, so you know, even like theannouncements, all the kids do
everything.
That's right, yeah, so thechoir changing up stuff yeah, is
it like the youth Sunday?
Yeah, like the youth Sunday,that's right.
(17:07):
Yeah, we just call it remixSunday.
Yeah, remix Sunday.
So like every Sunday issomething different.
Like next week might be youngadults, the week after that
might be men's.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So it keeps it fresh Seeing that do you all perform
at different churches, like inthe area, because I know y'all
said y'all was going to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, we actually just performed at.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Hope Center.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, on Valentine's Day, the same day we released, I
Can Go Home.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And did y'all sing it there?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yes, we only did two.
We did full attention becausewe wanted to gear you know, have
a gear to valentine's day, sofull attention is about, you
know, being distracted with thecares of the world and around
the wrong people.
Now, god, we're dedicating ourlives back to god.
So here's our full attentionand I could go home.
It's just just like, you know,a safety net in God.
(18:04):
So we didn't want to, eventhough it was still church, we
didn't want to be like too, youknow.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Churchy.
Yeah, yeah, I know what youmean because I like growing up
as a kid Second EvergreenMissionary Baptist Church.
My mom used to always have usgo and I'm like man, it's
churchy churchy.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You know what I mean it's pubes.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You know what I mean?
It's old school.
So I'm just you know what I'msaying, and it's funny because I
start singing those songs in myhead or just being silly, like
I'm always am.
I'm just singing those oldschool songs, but I get it.
And I'm just singing those oldschool songs, but I get it.
Nowadays, you know, it's goodto have both, yeah you need
variety, and that's what we love.
Yeah, you know it's both.
(18:53):
Yeah, it's good to have bothbecause you know the youth.
I feel like they can't relateto those older songs.
I mean they can.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Because some of them songs are so oily, you can sing
them today and you still feelthe presence of God.
So they're still needed, but weneed to have a balance.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, have a balance.
How do y'all feel about that?
When y'all come into y'allcreative minds to create an
album or an EP, do y'all feellike y'all want to do, like
let's mix it up, do churchy, orwhat do y'all consider yourself
as far as gospel?
Because you know so many genres, you know what I mean.
What genre would y'all putyourself?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I'll call myself a gumbo, because we must be like,
I guess, contemporary, becauseit's not like we do have like a
brain.
You know, this song isdefinitely different from other
songs.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's more CCM.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And our other songs are jazzy or storytelling, so
like we're versatile, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Do y'all want to work or do y'all work with other
artists?
Gospel artists.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We some, it depends.
We want to be compatible.
It's not necessarily A matterabout If you can really really
sing, but More so Compatibilityyeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, um, we talked about the single.
Y'all got some Upcoming shows.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Which, which?
And uh, is it next this weekcoming up or the 25th?
It's next week, yeah.
Is it the 25th?
Yes, yes, and is it this weekcoming up or the 25th?
Is it the 25th?
Yeah, the 25th.
C-i-a-a right.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, the 25th and the 26th.
Is that the what C-F-G-R-A?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes, how did that come about, you know?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I ran into somebody.
She found out that Mema saidthey did music.
They referred us to them.
Then they reached out to us andthat's just how that happened.
But it really wasn't plannedright and God just blessed us
with favor and we're veryhonored, you know, because they
don't have to book you, theydon't have to like.
I think that people think thatpeople should do stuff for you,
(20:59):
you know people don't have to doanything.
They don't yeah so we're reallyhonored.
We're going to perform multipletimes there too.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's the whole weekend, right.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think they're having a whole weekend, but
we're performing two days in arow.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Pretty much the whole weekend.
Yeah, so we're honored.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, it's really huge .
Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's a huge blessing.
We realize, you know sometimespeople get stuff and they don't
realize.
Yeah, you know, sometimespeople get stuff and they don't
realize, yeah, yeah what um doyou have like a manager or?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
we have publicist we are working with someone.
We are working with someone,but in terms of, like booking
stuff, it's me and my sister wedo the booking so y'all like
independent.
Yeah, yeah, but we do have like, yeah, we do have management.
(21:51):
We do have, like you know, ateam of network.
We network with people, but interms of like booking me and my
sister, we book our own stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Okay, all right, cool , right, cool, um.
Now with the bookings andeverything.
How is it on the gospel side ofum?
I know it's drama, it gotta beyou know, what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's drama everywhere right, yeah, you know what I
mean, because I'm not you knowI'm just trying to be straight
up like because people want to.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
People want to know, like because even me, I'm new
into understanding how gospelworks as far as gospel music and
just the church, the thingsthat go on in the church, is it
always?
Not always, but do y'all docoming across like barricades
(22:47):
that somebody might like try tostop you from doing something,
or they're like gatekeeping,because there's a lot of
gatekeeping on the R&B, hip-hopside.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think it's in the industry in general.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
In general.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, I would say like years ago it was like a
while ago we might have.
We might have some type ofdisagreement with somebody.
You can just tell you haddisagreement and the person
might have said something thatwasn't proper but, the other
person realized, like theywatched this, like oh, there's
no validity in what they saidand they just disregard what was
(23:20):
said.
So sometimes you have stufflike that, but that's in any way
.
Any anywhere you go, you couldbe at work and someone could.
Y'all could just have adisagreement and y'all can mean
just not be.
You know mashing well, and aperson can say something about
you.
But if a person have goodcommon sense for themselves and
they start well, they canexamine like, okay, that's your
(23:41):
personal feelings, that's notright.
What's actually going on?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
okay, because I mean I just I'm very observant of
certain things, like I one thingabout me.
I just sit back and watch howthings go before I like making a
comment or anything.
That's why I always ask youdon't know if you don't ask you
know, and I see and I'm like whythey doing that, why they
(24:06):
acting like that, or?
But you know, to each his own.
So, like y'all said, it'severywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, I don't think you can avoid it.
I like anywhere you go.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, why you think that is though.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
People.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yes, wanting to protect what they have.
You know, intimidation is a.
It's lots of things you know um.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You know it's lots of things why does which people
realize that if god decides toput you in a space that, even if
I didn't care for you, I can'tremove whatever God has for you
and people need to takethemselves out the equation and
stop thinking that they can holdstuff hostage?
No, if that arena belongs tothat person and you're there, if
(24:57):
you don't move on your own, godwill cause something to make
you move.
God sets people up in highpositions so, like I think,
people in their pride andthinking they can stay here, do
that.
I'd rather leave instead of bemoved by God.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Figure on that, Figure on that.
Um, there are people like soyou know, I used to think as a
kid, you know, when you're apastor, like that's just it,
Like that's all you do, you know, like that's, like that's how
he puts food on the table Forartists, you know, what do you,
(25:37):
what do you do on the side, ornot even the side, like what is
your main thing?
That like your job oroccupation, that you do?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
well, we both work in law y'all lawyers no lawyers
criminal justice yeah we're bothin the same field how y'all end
up in that um, I ended up inthat like forget how many years
now, but I've been in it eversince justice too, so I guess it
(26:08):
just naturally fit.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I also went to school for music and I went to school
for criminal justice.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, all right, and how do you like?
Do you like it?
Because some people, you knowthey just be working just to
work instead of, just like youknow, loving to work.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's not bad.
I mean, I'm accustomed to thefield so it's easy for me, but
it's not my main job.
Like music is our main job, butyou do need money to support
what you're doing Just some fun.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
whatever you're trying to do, that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, for some fun whatever you trying to do?
That's it.
Yeah, kids.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, not physically no .
Speaker 2 (26:46):
No, kids, not physically, but basically we
take care of our nieces.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, for real, those kids, yeah Because.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I got my aunt.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
My aunt's like my mom .
You know what I mean.
You know how family is.
You know, even though you got amom, even though you got a mom,
you still got your aunts.
They're the ones you hang outwith because they super cool,
right?
Yeah, they're spoiled, cj.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
CJ.
Sorry, ariel Aaliyah.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
CJ was the one who was on the first time.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
No, no no, that's our nephew John.
We love him so much.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yes, john, yeah is he the oldest?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
he's not the nephew the niece's nephew no, no, he's
not the oldest.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
My brother and his wife have kids, has a lot of
kids yeah, the boy and the kidyeah, but he isn't the oldest.
My sister that passed herdaughter is the oldest.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So her daughter's the oldest, and then we have nieces
and nephews from there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So yeah, and that's cool.
That's dope, dope, auntie, thesing Do you teach them how to
sing, maybe trying, yeah, no butwe can tell that they have some
skill there, but they just haveto start singing more, and they
have to, you know, come out ofthat shell.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I took choir in senioryear.
That was it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But you can sing, can't you?
It was an easy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
A no, I can't sing you can?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I can hold a note, oh , okay, but you can produce,
yeah, I produce.
I can tell you how to sing Likehey, that's because your keys
and stuff, the gifting, yeah,yeah, yeah, I'm like hey no,
that's not it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sing it like this Because the way and I'd be like
man, how did people be like yo,how do you do that?
And I'm like that's a gift.
I'm like I don't know, but nowthat yeah, it's a gift because
it's like I just I give it backto, like my grandfather.
You know he played records Likethat's why I got a record
(28:33):
player.
You know what I mean.
Like he played records everyday.
You know what I mean Every day.
Then my dad, my uncles, it wasalways a musical.
So your family yeah, my dadplayed the saxophone.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh, I love the sax.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, my brother played the saxophone, I played
the drums, but like mygrandfather, just them oldie but
goodie records, Like he played,you know, and I, just I would
listen, Even when you didn'twant to listen.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It was like Because they was playing it every day.
They played it so loud, yeah,like my grandfather would be, in
the basement and.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'd be on the like upstairs Like you hear all those
songs and I'm like man.
But I think that's what helpswith me.
It's like I can't sing, sing, Ithink if I wanted to like to
get vocal coaching.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's not like that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It would be easy for your thing it would be easy,
because, I mean, I had to do itin choir.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, like every morning.
Yeah, but you process it whileyou're playing stuff?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, I definitely do .
Who do you work with as far asproduction and, you know,
outside of Terrence?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Like do y'all have like a set producer?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
well, like taryn's, like the main producer and um.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We just worked with someone recently named um rick
and I think his last name lisagivins.
He did an excellent job on Ican go home and garrett, who we
always work with.
He shout out to gDA yeah, welove Garrett.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
He's fam.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Now We've been with him since 2020.
And me and my sister didn'trealize it, like it's been five
years now with him, but yeah,this time he helped produce the
record, so that was pretty cooland yeah, so we just we normally
select people who will properlyinterpret what we're trying to
(30:22):
convey, cause, like because alot of people that do know us,
our sound doesn't match ourpersonality to a certain extent,
so sometimes a person willstill try to interpret what
we're trying to convey versusour personality.
That's not the sound that wewant.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So, like right, they'll get it mixed up with our
personalities, because peoplethink maybe we would have a
traditional sound versus a.
It's like you know, it's not,you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We have that in us as well.
But if we're giving yousomething, I don't care how
skillful you are, just respectwhat we're trying to give you
and don't deviate.
Don't do your interpretationsyou are, just respect what we're
trying to give you and don'tdeviate.
Don't do your interpretations.
So I think what we really likeabout Terrence is that, even
though he's accomplished a whole, whole lot, he wasn't acting
like that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
He was very humble and he sent us multiple versions
of Narrow Way so we could behappy and it was a build up,
because initially he was liketrying to see how he wanted to
make sure he was kind of playingit safe, and then he expanded,
as he was like we said you know,you had to tell him be yourself
, you know we wanted him on thetrack.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You gotta give me permission.
He was like all right.
And then he just went Shout outto Esquire.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I love my bro, he's always like that, even when we
was in the studio he justlistens.
I mean, I remember us workingwith Kerry Gordy and he had this
beautiful singer, ayla.
I still keep in contact withher today.
I think she's 18 now, but shewas like 14 or 15 when we was
with her at the studio and itwas just, it was just like like
(32:09):
bugs on the wall just listeningto everything that Kerry Gordy,
you know that's.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Berry Gordy's son yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Listening to everything that he's like doing,
how he's recording her, how hewants it, and he's very
meticulous.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh, he learned from his dad, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was like okay, this is why and you know me being
from Detroit you know Motown'sright there.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And I'm like so this how it was going on, and I know
for sure that that helped himlater on like how to work with
people.
But he's always been humble,always he don't brag, he don't.
He don't brag, he don't.
Yeah, but he just work.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I feel like normally, people that are sure of
themselves doesn't feel the needto brag yeah, no need.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, yeah, like I don't, I don't have to show you
because you know you can.
You can just look it up well,because you know, I feel like
you know, you know yeah, and,and that's that's another thing
too is I think I ain't gonna sayit's a Virgo thing we're both
Virgo, but um, I just think it's, it's more of a, um, we can say
(33:14):
like military yeah, young,background.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You, you know what.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I mean Because, like, we know what we can do.
It's only for you to see it.
You know what I mean.
I can show you better than Ican tell you, but we know, like,
who we are.
It's just like, let us you knowwhat I mean.
Let's try to figure out, likewe always try to come to a
solution Because you know youdon't have people that have
problems.
Everybody comes to you withproblems, never no solution.
(33:40):
So when you have solutions, youknow what I mean and you can
come up with the.
You know how to fix it together.
It's always gonna be, you knowthe, the end goal for us, like,
how can we make this song better?
What can I do to fix it?
Less is more.
Which one we take out which one?
And I think working withartists like y'all is definitely
a plus.
Cause y'all is definitely aplus?
(34:01):
Because a lot of times peopledon't let us be us really yeah,
it's been.
I want it like this, I want itlike this.
Ah, you know what man, um, thatwas another thing for me, like
working with um gospel artists,and it was, uh, she was, I guess
(34:21):
, getting into like gospel rap,oh, and that's a whole another
thing.
You know what I mean, causeit's like they're trying to rap
the word, which they are, butthey're trying to use the same
method as beats as rap, like hiphop oh, okay, so it's nothing
wrong with it, cause I like me1k.
(34:43):
You know about 1K Few yeah yeah,yeah, he's super dope.
He is super dope.
And you know his production isaround my area, like I do that a
lot.
So this girl I was working withone of my friends had hit me up
and said hey, I got a girl thatwants to do that, wants to rap.
She has the song already, shejust wants to remade.
So I listened to the song.
(35:09):
It was Glorilla beat, so that'swhy she wanted it remade.
But she wanted me to remake itjust like that and I'm like
that's stealing.
You can't do that.
I'm like I can't, she's like.
So I made what I thought shewould like.
She's like ah, I don't knowabout that.
Made another one Sent her, likeEsquire sent her another version
, another version, anotherversion, and it got to the point
(35:34):
where I was doing all of thisand she hasn't even came to the
studio.
You know what I'm saying.
And I'm like, and she didn'tpay for it.
My friend, the one thatrecommended me her, paid for it
for her, Like as a gift, like ifyou want to do this like.
If you want to do this music, Iknow somebody that can really
(35:54):
help you with it.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
And she was just like ah, and her and her mom got
involved, was like well, youknow, she wants it like this and
she wants it like that, and I'mjust like but she wasn't trying
to like take, she was kind oflike the round, using it as a
reference right.
No, she, when she sent me therough it was the FNF beat the
(36:17):
song that everybody knowGlorilla from and she was
rapping gospel to it and I'mlike you can't rap over that
like you can't put that out soshe don't understand it right.
So I was trying to explain it toher and her mom, you know, and
I'm okay with like I'm verypatient with people, so I'm like
I'm explaining it to her and Iwas like here, here, go a beat
(36:39):
that can in that realm of it,but it don't.
It's not that.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, you can you can do the realm of it, change it,
but not straight.
Take the exact same thing.
You got to get someone else todo it.
It got to be somethingdifferent.
It can, it can, yeah, but notwhat she was doing.
She was taking the exact samething.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You got to change it and I was like, like you can't.
I said the only way I said youcan rap off that beat, but you
can't put it out.
You can't put it out and try topublish it and have it out on a
streaming platform yeah,because the thing is, you'll get
away with it if it doesn't goanywhere.
Yeah, nobody knows you but, letthat really fly she gonna want
her money, and that's what theydo.
They wait, take off.
If they see it on the radar,they literally will just sit
(37:21):
there and wait and see if it'sgonna take off and then see, or
if they just tired of you,they'll just send a cease and
desist.
But hey, you need to take thatdown now or we're gonna come
after you.
So, um, yeah, that's why youknow asking like, how is it like
working with other producersand you know artists, because I
know sometimes it could be alittle shaky.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I think that's right.
Right now it's just me and mysister.
We do want to implement morepeople, but we just need to make
sure I think sometimes a smallcircle is best, because God been
blessing us with the littlepeople that we've been utilizing
.
Eventually, we were talkingabout we do want to work with
more people, but it just has tobe the right fit people that
we've been utilizing.
So eventually we were talkingabout we do want to work with
(38:03):
more people.
But it just has to be the rightfit.
We like peace.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Gotta protect the peace.
Gotta protect the peace Now.
Alma, I heard you were apublished author.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yes, Talk to me about it.
I have a book.
It's a poetry, spoken word.
It was the first book, andHills and Valleys and the
Spiritual Warfare in Between isthe second.
So the first book is a book ofpoetry.
The second is a book of poetryslash, devotional.
So it's about stuff that I wentthrough in my life, mistakes
(38:38):
and errors that I made in hopesto encourage somebody else, you
know, to.
You know, come to Christ or intheir Christian walk.
That's, that's my hope, that'smy goal, because then I'm, I'm
being really transparent in thebooks, very transparent.
You know some scars I didn'twant to reveal, but people need
to be helped know that youhaven't always been where you
are, you know, currently youknow, it's.
(38:59):
You know it's a process.
Have a past are.
You know, currently.
You know it's.
You know it's a process.
Have a past.
You know, everybody has a past.
Sometimes we want people tothink that we just literally
just always been a certain way Idon't like that, but that's not
true.
That's not real, and peopleneed help and I still need help
and we still need help.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So that's a super fact.
But what?
What started you to?
What made you want to startwriting?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
The young lady that was at our church.
She asked me she's like I wantyou to write a book of poetry?
I'm like, huh, okay, but Ialways.
God gave me faith a certain way.
I mean that you know he gave mefaith a certain way so I would
be like okay, even if I'm notsure I would go after it.
So you know he's like go ahead,sell my book and publishing,
(39:51):
everything is.
And then the second one is in.
Like major stores, walmart ispublished, you know, like
worldwide Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yes, I'm so proud of my sister.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
What was the second?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
book hills and valleys and the spiritual
warfare in between hills andvalleys and the spiritual
warfare in between yes, it's inbarnes, and noble um is it on
like um audible?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
no?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
you gotta get no we have to, but we have another one
coming too.
I have a um, a um it's likemore expanded the first book, so
it's going to be.
I'm have devotion in there also, so that's coming and that will
be on, um, it's going to be.
I want to say I think it may beon, I make sure, um, but it
(40:35):
definitely is going to be on theinternet yeah, I love audio.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I love audiobooks, um , um think, like Think and Grow
Rich Richest man in Babylon.
I just got done with the whatwas it?
Wallow book I just downloaded.
(40:58):
So like when I'm out, when I'mdriving, yeah, I love listening
to the audio books, even home,like I just turn it on, just
listen and I think that's that'sthe books to me.
Um, it reached me more becauseI hear that person voice, or the
person that's reenacting thatthat person help you to connect
(41:21):
it helps me connect, becausewhen I'm just reading, reading.
I'm like, oh okay, all right,Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, all right, it can be boring Something.
I think, because we're artists,I need to be, something needs
to excite me.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I need to feel like I'm going on a rollercoaster.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah of their voice, sometimes like they get low that
helps Like oh, eric Thomas, youOwe you.
Oh my God, that book, like Ilistened to that book and the
way his inflection.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
He knows to keep people's attention.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
He knows how to come low, he knows how to go high, he
knows how to stay in the midand he even talks about it.
Like you know, this is the didit and he's from Detroit and
learning that he was a you knowhe was a pastor minister and you
know he started.
He called himself the hip-hoppreacher now.
So, um, it definitely is superdope to learn, like you know,
(42:11):
the things that you owe yourself.
Um, so, yeah, audibles alwaysget me.
I can go through books, likehow somebody can read books.
I go through an audible likethat.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
That's that music in you too.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, and you can you can fast forward the voice a
little bit, so instead of havingthem talk in their normal slow
voice, I can speed it up to likeI put it at 1.5.
So then I speak a little faster.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
a little faster.
You know what I mean, insteadof them.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Just you know this and that and you got to worry
about this.
You got to look at no, I'd belike hey, you know it's, I'm
like yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I like to read fast.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
I feel you.
I like to read fast.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, so it catches on, it catches, it keeps me
going and it self-reliance,self-direction, something you
know to do.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
What's next for y'all ?
Well, we're performing at theBaltimore Arena for the.
Ciaa next week.
Wow, that's quick, and we'realso performing in April.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Because I was like two weeks ago when y'all told me
yeah, yeah, when y'allperforming in April at PA.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I can't think of the exact address.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Pennsylvania right, I can't think of the city right
now, but Pennsylvania, so it'sgoing to be a concert, so we're
going to.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
it's just us.
We're featured on the concert,so we're honored.
They found us on the internet,reached out to us.
So we've never been there, sowe.
So we've never been there, sowe're honored to celebrate you.
Yeah, it's really exciting togo to different churches and
experience different culturesand experience different ways
that people praise God.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah.
Because it's differentdenominations right.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Which ones have you been to so far?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Well Hope Center was Non-denomination.
Yeah, the one in April, I can'tthink of.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Is it Christian?
No, it's Christian, but yeah,we have to look at it to make
sure.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
but and then we performed at a wedding and it
was really pretty neat becausethey had communion at the
wedding.
Wow yeah, it was really prettyneat because they had communion
at the wedding.
Yeah, it was so backstory.
I have other, different degreesor different things, and I
wanted to be a part of learningmore about medicine and stuff
(44:36):
and do stuff in the medicalfield.
So I was in school for that andbefore I took my test as
singers or anything that you'regifted in, you utilize it to
process stress.
So I was about to take a testand I started singing.
But I was singing to calm medown and my teacher heard it and
she said oh, you have abeautiful voice.
So she wanted me and my sisterto sing my graduation.
(44:57):
So in doing so, the staffmembers found out we could sing.
He found out our music, so weend up singing at his wedding
wow, and from the school yes, so, um, he's black, his, uh, his
wife is white.
And to see the blended family sobeautiful yeah and um as
singers.
(45:17):
If you can sing, you don't needmusic to sing.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
So we would sing without music and the acoustic.
It was beautiful, it was sounique.
I really loved the experienceand that was my first time
seeing someone taking communionat a wedding.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's the first time I ever heard of it too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So it was really great.
And also as singers, it's likeif you can really sing, you
really don't need music.
You don't need anything if youcan sing.
So we were just singing outmusic and they were like really
impressed and really pleased andthey wanted us to sing more
songs, like no, the only exeswas dude.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, yes, they told us later that one of the family
members she was like she wasreally impressed.
She was saying she wanted us tostay more.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, do y'all charge yes For the Absolutely.
I'm just asking.
You know, some people might,you know, might be a love
offering.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I don't know, Even if you do so.
For instance, when I would doconcerts at my church, my sister
would help me and some otherpeople in our church would help.
Right, being an artist, Iprobably wouldn't tell him I was
going to give him my money.
But when he came there, I waslike, thank you, and I put money
in their hand.
They were like, oh, I'msurprised.
No, like you don't have to comehere and do this, you don't
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have to do that.
And I value the gift that youhave, so I'm not going to sit
there and not pay you.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
You know.
So yeah, I don't.
I think that people shouldconsider you asked me to come,
so you should think of me, youshould consider that you need me
.
You asked, you asked us, right,mm-hmm?
So show love, you can givesomething.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I totally agree , a love offering something.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Something you know, to show that you appreciate.
Something, because sometimes Ibe like and yeah, and you have
to tell people no sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
All right, now it's time to get.
I love it.
Yeah, we got all the good onesout the way.
I'm about to give you one ofthe best ones.
Question what is your top?
Yo not even gonna say top threefavorite bible verse.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I love.
I have a lot of.
I used to read revelations alot, but I love psalms one.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
I have a couple Ephesians 6, 10.
Finally, my brethren be strongin the Lord and the power of his
might, and it is psalm 119, Ithink 135.
Ephesians 6.10, finally, mybrethren, be strong in the Lord
and the power of his might, andit is Psalm 119, I think 135.
Great peace have they whichlove thy law.
Nothing shall offend them.
So just you know, goals likebeing strong in the Lord.
You know, constantly servingthe Lord and serving the Lord
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continually, that's a part ofbeing strong in the Lord.
But the great peace have theywhich love thy law, that's you
know, that's a part of beingstrong in the Lord.
But the great peace of the daywhich loveth Allah, that's you
know.
That's not allowing anything tobother you, not allowing
anything to, you know, offendyou and get in your spirit.
So that's you know that'ssomething that that's.
Psalms 119?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
And that's yeah.
So that's one of mine becauseit's like the goal you know, to
make sure that nothing isbothering us.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know, things happen in life and we not always
like yeah, so we just have to,you know absolutely right, I
like the book of Nahum in OldTestament because no one really
reads from it and it describesand I'm paraphrasing because I
want to take from the Bible butit describes the clouds or the
dust of God's feet and I justthink that's so unique, because
clouds are beautiful, yeah, solike that's the dust of god's
feet, yeah, like that's serious.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I had to check that one out yeah, yeah, it's um,
it's um.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Nahum is n-a-h-u-m.
Yeah, I believe it's the.
I want to say the first chapterand a third verse.
Okay yeah I'll text it to you,but like it just tripped me out,
like, and you don't really hearpeople referencing it, I'm like
it's always New Testament.
No, that's the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
That's what I'm saying.
It's always New Testament thatyou hear about, it's the
normally like.
Nobody really talks about theOld Testament like they, and I'm
learning that too.
Mine is Ecclesiastes 3.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Amen Yep.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Seasons it's time for everything, that's all Well.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
The Bible is relevant anyway, but that's always
relevant.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, because I was in boot camp, and I tell the
story all the time In order forus to get away from the drill
instructors.
It was on Sundays, so that'swhen I started going to church.
Listen, I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
But it helped you.
It helped you, I started goingto church.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
I needed at least a few hours just to get up, man,
because they were always on us,on us, on us.
And you know, the Marine Corpsboot camp is three months,
everybody else is two months,one month.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
But y so like.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I'm like yo, I'm going to church on Sundays and
that's when I found out, becausethey was like man, why don't
you go to church?
You want to get away from thedrill store, to go to church,
like for real, go to church.
And you know it was aProtestant church and I was
listening.
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Like I wasn't just there justchilling, I was really like
listening to what he was sayingand he was like Ecclesiastes 3
everything happens for a reason.
There's a season for everything.
You know what I mean.
It's a time for peace, it's atime for war, it's a time to
laugh, it's a time to cry, likeyou know paraphrasing too,
(50:49):
because it's a on me, because Ireally felt everything Like it's
a time for everything.
You know what I mean.
I feel like right now, whatwe're going through right now,
it's just a season.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
It's a season, and what seasons they change all the
time.
So I look at it like that Likewhatever's going on in this
world right now, it'll pass.
You know what I mean.
And it helped me understand me,too, going to actually going to
Iraq Like it's a time for peace, it's a time for war.
(51:22):
You experienced a lot.
I went to Iraq twice so ithelped and I think that me
personally, I think that's whathelped me get through everything
.
You know what I mean.
Build you up, yeah.
So I always look at that and Itell people like Ecclesiastes 3.
You know what I mean and theybe like what.
(51:44):
Ecclesiastes 3.
What are you talking about?
I'm like Go look at it, just golook at it and see what I'm
talking about.
And when they look at it, hey,you're right, it is.
You know what I mean, and it'sit helped me understand.
Like God didn't, he won't.
Like everybody wants, likeyou're great, to have peace, but
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sometimes we have to go fightthose battles against the enemy
that's doing devilish things, oryou know what I mean, things of
that nature.
But you also have to understandthat these people are really
bad.
Are they bad?
You know what?
I mean are they bad, or is itsomebody's agenda to make them
look bad?
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
mean, and then you fight an engine.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
So when you start looking deeper into certain
things, like man, some of thesepeople it's beautiful people in
our rap, you know what I mean.
And we giving out toys playingsoccer with kids, giving them
different things, and you knowit's like they ain't like that.
Was me living like that.
You know what I mean.
They don't even have trafficlights, but just imagine how
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many cars be in accidents.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
A lot.
They don't have wow, they don'thave traffic lights.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
They don't have traffic lights, so who decides
when to stop Somebody?
Speaker 2 (52:59):
just be like you go, I go, we like.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
If they speeding like they speed, they speed over
there Like it's no speed limit.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Oh my, so there's no order.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
There's nothing that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
There's no order, there's no structure.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
It's a third world country.
There's no structure at all,like there's no speed limits,
there's no traffic lights.
I'm sorry.
They barely have street lights.
Wow, you know what I mean.
But the houses is crazy.
The houses are beautiful.
Like you know, they like clayon the outside, but they're
beautiful.
We've been inside the housesand that's when we learned, like
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you know, the Arabic Islamicpeople, they, they don't, they
don't wear their hair down untilthey're inside their own house.
Only time you see a woman's hairdown you know, but they have
furniture, but their furnitureis like lower to the ground, and
you know what I mean.
They have the same, you knowsame stuff as us.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
It's just their custom is different.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, it's just it's just different and, um, seeing
that I'm just like yo, thesepeople, these people in the
middle of something they ain'tgot.
They ain't got.
No, it's not even like.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
That's the unfortunate part of war you know
what I mean, and it's like.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
This is how they live .
Speaker 2 (54:11):
And then you.
I mean you have to do whatyou're told, because you're.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, and you know what I mean.
Like it's rules of engagementand things of that nature and we
never, we never did anythingprude to the people.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Oh, that's good, that's good.
You, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
We respected the people, but if you were on our
list as a suspect, then you wereon the list.
We got to snatch you up if weget you.
You know we got to snatch youup.
That was the goal to snatch youup and detain you and bring you
back and question you and stufflike that.
But it didn't always go thatway, you know.
So yeah, just seeing that, likeyou know, I always give a story
(54:52):
Like we used to drive on thetrucks, because that was my job,
I drove the trucks, we used todrive the trucks and you know,
you see a herder and a sheep,you know, walking all the time,
and one time they purposelystrapped a bomb to the sheep
because they knew we would stop,and they strapped a bomb in a
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sheep and it blew up one of thetrucks in the front.
It wasn't us, it was anotherunit.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
You had to kill the sheep, though I was with you.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, you know.
That's wicked but yeah, so theywere.
That's how I learned yourespect your enemy, because you
never know the capabilities ofwhat they can do, and that's the
wisdom.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
When you're talking and you are trained and you
talking sense.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, so you have to respect like everybody.
That's why I give peoplerespect until it's shown
otherwise you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
And it's like, okay, let me move on, get out of the
way.
Yeah, yeah, shown, otherwiseyou know what?
I mean, and it's like okay, letme move on, get out of the way A
lot, yeah, yeah, it's funnythat you're saying that because
I used to work in a criminal,insane jail and I know I was
graced for it, but at the time Ididn't realize it, I didn't
think it was a big deal.
My parents were like you for itand they had a lot of respect
(56:15):
for me, like I didn't fear them,like they had a lot of respect
for me but I knew it was good,because if you show fear, yeah,
but that's when they but I thinkthey respect it.
Like so people like oh theycrazy, they're not that crazy.
They know if you're a goodperson, they know if you're evil
right they like they still havesome sense there.
So I wasn't.
I wasn't mean, I wasn'tdisrespecting them, I wasn't
talking to them like they werebeneath me.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, and that's the main thing.
Right there, I feel like peopleautomatically put people on
different levels.
I'm here with you.
I'm here with you, I don't careif you're a billionaire, I
don't care if you're a homelessperson, I'm here with you and
you care if you're a billionaire, I don't care if you're a
homeless person, I'm here withyou.
And you know, even like thehomeless guy down the street at
(56:52):
the 7-Eleven, he asked like youknow what I mean, I really don't
carry cash.
You know, what I'm saying.
But I ask him sometimes hey, doyou want something to eat?
Speaker 2 (57:01):
You know I can get you something to eat.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
I'm and I treat everybody the same because it's
you never know.
You know what I mean.
You could be talking to abillionaire that looks like a
bum.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
But don't care, because they know they really
have the money.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
And that's why I always seen like, I'm like why
these people shouldn't be sodirty.
I don't care that you see theirhouse in there.
I'll be like, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
That's why Okay, that's why Okay, that's why
First class.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yep, first class, dirty, see me walking past you
and coach.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
You're like hey how you doing.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
But yeah, I treat everybody.
Treat everybody the same.
I try to teach my daughter'sdad as well, like you know.
Just because they don't have it, don't make fun of them or
nothing like that.
Because I remember you knowwhat I mean.
That was wasn't like you knowwhat I mean me like.
I was middle class, lowermiddle class, but I didn't have
everything.
You know what I mean, and it'slike you see, everybody else,
(57:58):
with all the Jordans, I mighthave one, pair, two pair or
whatever Nikes or whatever.
I just look at it, you know, andI learned that too.
Like so, out here, everybodywears New Balances.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
In Detroit you can't.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
You would get clowned for wearing New Balances,
really, yeah, but noweverybody's wearing them back
home and I'm like so they phone,they phone yeah like y'all was
getting on us when we was kidswith these New Balances, but now
balances, but not everybody'swearing them now.
So what's the style in Detroit?
Air Force Ones, wow, yeah,forces, air Force Ones, of
(58:34):
course Jordans.
Yeah, jordans.
Like I wear Vans because I wasstationed in California and I
love culture.
Yeah, so I embrace the cultureand if I like the shoe, I'm
gonna wear it.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah, like I'm me.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Like I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
And I love, I always loved skateboarding.
I just couldn't skateboard.
So you know, huh, yeah, I'mlike I ain't about to hurt
myself.
So yeah, it's just, air ForceOnes is the main shoe back home.
Oh, wow, we wear.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Saconis, y'all don't wear Pumas, do you?
Speaker 1 (59:06):
No, we never wore Pumas like that they do now.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Oh, so now?
Because yeah, pumas are instyle here.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, yeah.
So like I know, like the 990swas the that's the mecca here.
Like everybody got a pair ofV4s, v3s, gray, all 990s, but
then you couldn't wear that.
Like those were like grandpashoes, you couldn't wear that,
but then I worked at Foot Lockerand I was like, man, let me try
(59:31):
on these shoes, while everybodyalways be gassing these shoes
and I'm like, oh, they'recomfortable, yeah, because
everybody's always on the go.
They're on the metro, they'reon the bus.
They got to walk somewhere.
System in Detroit, no, here.
New York, chicago and I believeLA are the only ones that have
(59:54):
like a train system.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Wow, I've never been to Detroit.
I would like to go to Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
We've been a lot of places.
You'll love it.
If you don't like the cold,don't go now, but if you like
the summertime, it's humid.
It's humid like anywhere else.
Okay, yeah, before we get outof here, I want to do my thing I
always do.
It's called gym class, notG-Y-M, g-e-m.
(01:00:25):
What gym can you leave a youngwoman, a young adult, a young
person, young human being?
What gem can you leave them?
To carry them, you know, to addto their toolbox?
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Oh, you touched on it earlier about seasons.
Just persevere through yourseason.
If it's a rough season rightnow, keep going through it,
because seasons do change.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I like that I do, I'm so hello my sister, she's a
I'll call her the principalthat's my nickname for her.
The principal, I would say staytrue to yourself.
It's okay to get inspirationfrom other people, but don't be
so inspired that you'remimicking them, you're copying
them, you're intentionallytrying to be them.
God created you to be yourself,so be yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Be true to yourself, persevere through the seasons,
keep it going, anything elsey'all want to tell everybody
when can they reach you?
At the Fisher Girls.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Yep at the Fisher Girls Facebook, instagram,
tiktok and YouTube under theFisher Girls also.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But our website.
You can email us for bookings.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yep.
So the Fisher Girls look us upFacebook, instagram and please
purchase our new song I Can GoHome.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yes, and the Fisher Girls email is fishergirls2 at
gmailcom.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yes.
Fishergirls2 at gmailcom.
Yes, and like that we gone.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
No problem.
All right, what's today, monday?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Finally here.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I know You're right.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The weather just respect.
Yeah, it was when you said itwas hell and I'm like what?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And we were on our way to you.
It was like what in the world?
It just started hailing.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Out of nowhere.
Yeah, what kind of like, whatsize of the hell I don't know it
.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It just started coming down and then it started
coming out more hard.
I was like I don't know.
I don't know what you'reconcerned about.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, y'all are North too, so a lot of times y'all
going to get a lot more thanwhat we get down here, but
anyways we back at RelationshipsWorth More Than Money podcast.
I am Tweezy.
Who do I have to the right ofme, you lovely ladies?
I am Raquel, raquel, and.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We are the Fisher Girls.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, okay, let's get a little closer.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So I know you through my brother Esquire, y'all say
Terrence.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But when I heard y'all you know, create the song
that y'all had together and heproduced it, I'm like man.
I got to get to know theseladies, who are these beautiful
women, and so I always kept inlike contact, like you know,
following y'all in seeing whaty'all had going on.
Just for a brief, like, justgive us a background of who
(01:19):
y'all are, the Fisher girls, buty'all sisters together,
everything Just go ahead.
Give me the rundown.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
All right.
So yeah, so I started inelementary school.
We both started in elementaryschool, yeah.
And I believe when I was likeeight I received the water,
baptism and spirit baptism, theHoly Ghost, and with Apostolic
Church, you don't participate,like in things with like singing
on a choir and stuff like thatuntil you get the Holy Ghost.
And with Apostolic Church, youdon't participate like in things
with like singing on a choirand stuff like that until you
(01:48):
get the Holy Ghost and stuff.
So I started there also.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And yeah, so we've been singing since we were
children and professionallysince 2019.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah so school choir first, and then after high
school, we were like we don'twant to do um, we were singing
so much as kids yeah we didn'twant to sing in high school.
Like god started to um handleright and in 2015 we lost our
mom.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So that's how it um.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
God started blessing us and then we didn't start
professionally in 2019 sosinging?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
singing is it like a generational thing, like it's
always been, like it runs in thefamily, or like or do y'all
just the first ones from thefamily that started singing?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, actually it's on our father's side, our dad
and our uncles, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So our father and our uncles not sure, Um, if it's
further back than that,definitely our dad.
We know we get from our dad'sside.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
They said it would never matter how our grandmother
could sing, and some of ourcousins could sing it's on our
father's side.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Alright.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So in 2015 you said you guys lost your mom.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah.
And that's when y'all took itprofessional well, god, I could
write songs when I was a kid,like right, like 10, maybe, yeah
, like 10, 9 or 10, yeah, but um, I stopped writing it.
So when we lost our mother, godstarted to, you know, instruct
me to write again.
And then god, um, yes, so I um,before my mom passed.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I would get like little glimpse of like you know,
instruct me to write again.
And then God dealt with Elmer.
Yes, so before my mom passed Iwould get like little glimpse of
like witty things.
I would see that sometimes, butI didn't fully know what it was
.
But when she passed, that'swhen the gift of writing rose up
and I started writing poetry.
And I didn't know.
And the way that I learned wasI wrote something.
My instructor in college, shetold me to write something
(03:44):
mimicking Oscar Wilde.
So I just thought I wasmimicking him and she was like
this is really.
You know, this is great.
Have you heard of this artist?
And I'm like, oh.
So I didn't know, it was a gift.
But then that encouraged me towrite.
And then I wrote some books ofpoetry after that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And that was my next question too far, what was y'all
like writing process, like howdid that?
Because you said you started ata young age, like even me.
Um, I look back at me liketrying to write, rewrite raps
and stuff like that and tryingto rewrite like r&b songs, like
the old ushers and stuff, and tome I'm like man, how do how do
(04:21):
you do it?
And but is it from poetry?
Does poetry help?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, some people say it starts as poetry.
And me writing poetry first.
I guess that's how I write.
I write from poetry.
I write in rhythm a lot of thetime.
Yeah, I write in rhythm.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So for me when I was a child, it was really easy, but
because I took it for grantedwhen god told me to start
writing again in 2015, I didn't.
I wasn't obedient to 2016, likeI remember the month, january,
like beginning of the year Istarted writing.
He made me work for it.
So I had to really relearn howto write songs like well,
attention is my first song godbless us to release, but it's
(05:02):
such a wordy song yeah.
Yeah.
So like the other songs,they're detailed but it's not as
wordy.
So I had to relearn how towrite songs, but when I was a
child I could just it's likethat, noun again.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But God, I had to like earn it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now, you ladies are from Baltimore, right.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Did y'all go to school in Baltimore County or
Baltimore City?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We're from the city.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So we went to school in the city.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, all right, I went to Morgan.
It was the greatest grant Then.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I had to stop.
Did you study at Morgan?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Music.
Did you and I also did amusical theater.
I played Cele in.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Fella Purple.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it was great and I did a couple of leads in
the choir, so it was a reallygreat experience.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's dope, that's dope.
So you went to Morgan and themusic just stayed with you and
you just kept going, kept going.
Talk to me about the upbringing, how you guys was brought up in
Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Because I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So, like I said, you, know Baltimore reminds me of
back home.
It's like the west side ofDetroit or the east side,
depending on what part you're in.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
We were born and raised in the city.
But our mother, she didn't playwith us, she kept us in the
house.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So we lived.
We actually lived in the middleof the projects, but we were in
the house.
And she didn't play with us.
She really protected us.
So it was like we were in thatenvironment, but we weren't in
it.
So Raquel and I, we were verysheltered but we hated it at the
time.
But then we realized later thatit was actually good for us
what part of Baltimore East west.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
East.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But end up, you know, valuing it.
We came growing up.
Oh okay, I'm glad this way wewasn't outside as children, like
we couldn't do a whole lot,like we used to cry.
We wanted to go outside andstuff and I was like my why
being protective of us, but aschildren we hated it Do y'all
have any more siblings?
(07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
How many more?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We have more.
One more we lost two, we havethem.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Thank you.
So, you got?
Is it brother A brother?
Yeah, Older, younger.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, Our brother Dwayne Fisher.
We love him, thank God for him.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Does he sing too?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, he can write.
His children can sing.
Some of them can playinstruments and sing, and I
think most of them can writeEither.
They have some type of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Some type of skill, Something in that area in that
realm.
That's dope.
I think I feel like when youare in that realm of music,
theater, band, what else, acting, you know, it's all like a step
in building block to whereyou're trying to go and it's
(07:59):
just a great scene just to seeit.
When you come from a kid andit's like me for playing in a
band, and then it's like now I'ma producer, now I'm an engineer
, you know what I mean, but I, Ilet it, I let it go, just like
you said, like you know, highschool came I didn't want to be
a bangy, you know.
So it was like no, I would justwant to play sport.
(08:20):
But I regret that because Iwould have learned so many more
instruments because I was was adrummer, you know, I knew my
rudiments, but it was like whenI talked to S, I'm like S, how
you do this, how you do that,and he was like man, I kind of
like trained myself.
I don't even know how to playthe piano for real, for real,
but he trained himself.
And when we collab on a lot ofour beats, I always like, hey,
(08:41):
man, man, play the lead on thisplay, this play that I like the
way, cause it's his feel, andwhat he hears is like our ears
are so gifted yeah, that'sthat's a gift.
You know what I mean when I lookat that.
It's like man like you cancreate music like that and I'm
just like this is crazy.
(09:02):
But for acting, you know, Ithink to me theater is kind of
like the you have to.
You should do theater beforeyou become like a full-fledged
actor.
You know how some people youknow what I'm saying.
Some people just be actors.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't think you should.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, you, just you don't know nothing about the
theater of it, and I went toperforming arts school, oh good.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And we used to do the .
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Wiz a lot Every year.
Sometimes we'll be the musical.
We were the musical for most ofit and I was like man, I want
to act.
I want to do this Because myboy, big John, shout out to him.
He was like the lion.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Curse the lion, or whatever, so it was like you
know, all my friends was the.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know the lead characters or whatever.
But yeah, theater, music,anything of that art form I feel
like, is super dope.
Now you ladies just released asingle on valentine's day.
Yes, right, yeah.
What was the name of thatsingle?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I can go home I can go home.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Did you both write it , or?
Yeah so how does, how does thatprocess works with, like you
know, siblings writing for theyou know writing for the songs.
Y'all write all your'all songstogether, or will anybody take a
?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
lead Well now we do, Like the ideas can come to her
first, depending, and then I'lladd to it, or the idea can come
to me, Then she'll add to it,Like I Can Go Home.
We heard a track, Like a sampletrack or something, and God
only gave me the hook, so Istarted singing I can go home, I
can go.
I started singing it and thenmy niece Aaliyah was like wait,
(10:48):
you just came up with that.
And I was like but God onlygave me the hook.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But, then, me and Alma, when we went home, we came
up with the verse Do you feelcreating the hook or the chorus
first helps you more thancreating a verse, or vice versa?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It depends.
It depends because before Iused to I used to then write the
hook first before I used towrite the verse first.
So I guess, whatever God isleading me, but I do find I do
like when the hook is um, thefoundation of the hook is there,
you can write around it, youcan build from the hook.
So I do like that part.
Yeah, Um you can build from thehook.
So I do like that part and alsotrying to discover what the
hook should be.
(11:26):
Because, full Attention, I waswriting my thoughts.
I just was writing how I wasfeeling and it was pages.
And I remember telling Alma andmy older sister, christina, who
we lost during the time.
I was saying I don't know whatto call it and Tina was so calm.
I'm like girl, she was justlike Tina's very funny.
And I was like girl, she wasjust like Tina's very funny.
And I was like, well, you know,you'll figure it out.
But then I was reading it andthen I was like, oh, full
(11:48):
attention.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Is that the one y'all did with Esquire, with Tarrant?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
No, that's on our EP for Junes that you hear in the
Valley.
Full attention was on the EP,the one with.
Tarrant narrow way.
We did that one later.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But narrow way was the one with Terrence and what
does that mean?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
narrow way my bad, you know y'all got, y'all bought
some.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I know that was you that time?
I'm like who narrow way?
no narrow so the process, y'alltake turns and sometimes you
come up with it, and thensometimes you come up with it,
and then sometimes you come upwith the hook, like you know.
But me personally I think thehook is like what it is, what
leads the song, but it helps youwrite around it and that's the
(12:37):
thing.
So me, I can't just go out andjust write a song.
I just when I'm riding,sometimes I'm listening to my
beats or I'm listening toEsquire or my boy Swim
somebody's beats I can.
It's coming in my head Like Ican hear certain things, but
it's not coming full.
So then sometimes I might justrecord it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Me too.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I might just record the parts that I hear and then
I'd be like yo, what you thinkabout this, or even go in there
and just lay it down and seewhat I can get from it.
But I think that's great tohave not only a sibling doing it
with you, but it's anothercreative you know what.
I mean that can unlocksomething else from you.
(13:19):
How does that work?
Sister-wise, Y'all get into ita lot.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Not as far as songs actually, though Of course
siblings argue yeah, who theoldest?
I don't know Only a year andsome months.
We're very close names.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But as far as songs, I feel like we know what part we
play, uh-huh, and that makessense and we can write
independently, like I'm going towrite, and then I'll write, and
then we'll come together and wewill decide which makes sense.
Yeah, you know, we're not likeoh, thank God, we're never like
that.
Like oh, no, my part needed tobe in here.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's actually whatever is best for the song.
We're not like oh, it has to belike this, or I'm writing this.
Like oh, it has to be like this, or I'm writing this.
No, we really don't care, it'sjust whatever.
Whoever verse is best, it orfits the rhythm of the song, or
we take out and it's just yeah,but like my sister's funny and
it's like our creative juicesget the flow and more.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You know, we bounce off each other and, um, yeah,
like with this, this last song,it was just like she said
something, I said something, Isaid something, she said song.
It was just like she saidsomething, I said something, I
said something, she saidsomething.
It was just going together andI'm like, oh my gosh, and you
know it, just it really workedout and our whole idea was just
really to connect with people.
You know, to let people knowthat they can go home.
(14:38):
They can go, you know, theyturn away from Christ, they can
go to Christ, you know.
So that's the goal.
So it's not about it wasn'tabout like what I think is best,
what she think, you know, it'sabout the ultimate goal.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm glad it's actually now that you said that.
I'm glad it's actually neverlike that.
Like.
We're never like.
Alma wrote a song and I assingers, I mean you're gifted.
You can tell when a song isoriginal if you hear somebody
sing it Right.
So it sounded good and I walkedin the hall and I said that
sounds good, you wrote it andshe wrote it.
So then I end up writing thehook.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What was it what?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
song was it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, she wrote the, she wrote a, she wrote a verse,
I wrote the hook.
But see, the hooks used to cometo me first.
So, when you were sittingaround, like that's how they
used to come to me.
But now it's both ways.
So you know I can write verses,but at first it was just I want
to get a hook, and then wewould build from there, but you
would write verses.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, because verses used to come, hooks come too.
But I can, god bless me, I cando the hook or I can write the
hook and then I'll.
I'll look at the hook and I'llthink about the hook and I'll
write the verses around the hookyes so it's fun, it's fun, but
I forget which one that was.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think it was baby don't you, yes, and she wrote
the second verse and you add itto the hook, I think yeah, it
was, don't you.
And baby, baby, yep Yep yep,yep, yep, Don't you and let you
go.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So how does?
Did y'all always start writinggospel, or was it like R&B?
Did y'all ever dive into R&B oranything?
It just always been gospel.
Okay, I'm hey.
I'm just asking because youknow, sometimes, like some
people don't come from you knowwhat I?
Mean, I'm learning too, becauseyou know like I just got
baptized last October.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Oh, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, thank you.
And like I go, like I went tochurch yesterday at First
Baptist of Glen Arden and likethe production that I always see
, like it's every every weekit's somebody different, so this
week it was the kids Remix.
We call it remix so on.
Sundays, all the kids doeverything.
(16:46):
They, be they the ushers, theyeverything oh, did you call it
the ushers, the ushers they'renot ushers, the ushers.
Okay, so you know, even like theannouncements, all the kids do
everything.
That's right, yeah, so thechoir changing up stuff yeah, is
it like the youth Sunday?
Yeah, like the youth Sunday,that's right.
(17:07):
Yeah, we just call it remixSunday.
Yeah, remix Sunday.
So like every Sunday issomething different.
Like next week might be youngadults, the week after that
might be men's.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So it keeps it fresh Seeing that do you all perform
at different churches, like inthe area, because I know y'all
said y'all was going to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, we actually just performed at.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Hope Center.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, on Valentine's Day, the same day we released, I
Can Go Home.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And did y'all sing it there?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yes, we only did two.
We did full attention becausewe wanted to gear you know, have
a gear to valentine's day, sofull attention is about, you
know, being distracted with thecares of the world and around
the wrong people.
Now, god, we're dedicating ourlives back to god.
So here's our full attentionand I could go home.
It's just just like, you know,a safety net in God.
(18:04):
So we didn't want to, eventhough it was still church, we
didn't want to be like too, youknow.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Churchy.
Yeah, yeah, I know what youmean because I like growing up
as a kid Second EvergreenMissionary Baptist Church.
My mom used to always have usgo and I'm like man, it's
churchy churchy.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You know what I mean it's pubes.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You know what I mean?
It's old school.
So I'm just you know what I'msaying, and it's funny because I
start singing those songs in myhead or just being silly, like
I'm always am.
I'm just singing those oldschool songs, but I get it.
And I'm just singing those oldschool songs, but I get it.
Nowadays, you know, it's goodto have both, yeah you need
variety, and that's what we love.
Yeah, you know it's both.
(18:53):
Yeah, it's good to have bothbecause you know the youth.
I feel like they can't relateto those older songs.
I mean they can.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Because some of them songs are so oily, you can sing
them today and you still feelthe presence of God.
So they're still needed, but weneed to have a balance.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, have a balance.
How do y'all feel about that?
When y'all come into y'allcreative minds to create an
album or an EP, do y'all feellike y'all want to do, like
let's mix it up, do churchy, orwhat do y'all consider yourself
as far as gospel?
Because you know so many genres, you know what I mean.
What genre would y'all putyourself?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I'll call myself a gumbo, because we must be like,
I guess, contemporary, becauseit's not like we do have like a
brain.
You know, this song isdefinitely different from other
songs.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's more CCM.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And our other songs are jazzy or storytelling, so
like we're versatile, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Do y'all want to work or do y'all work with other
artists?
Gospel artists.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We some, it depends.
We want to be compatible.
It's not necessarily A matterabout If you can really really
sing, but More so Compatibilityyeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, um, we talked about the single.
Y'all got some Upcoming shows.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Which, which?
And uh, is it next this weekcoming up or the 25th?
It's next week, yeah.
Is it the 25th?
Yes, yes, and is it this weekcoming up or the 25th?
Is it the 25th?
Yeah, the 25th.
C-i-a-a right.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, the 25th and the 26th.
Is that the what C-F-G-R-A?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes, how did that come about, you know?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I ran into somebody.
She found out that Mema saidthey did music.
They referred us to them.
Then they reached out to us andthat's just how that happened.
But it really wasn't plannedright and God just blessed us
with favor and we're veryhonored, you know, because they
don't have to book you, theydon't have to like.
I think that people think thatpeople should do stuff for you,
(20:59):
you know people don't have to doanything.
They don't yeah so we're reallyhonored.
We're going to perform multipletimes there too.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's the whole weekend, right.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think they're having a whole weekend, but
we're performing two days in arow.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Pretty much the whole weekend.
Yeah, so we're honored.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, it's really huge .
Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's a huge blessing.
We realize, you know sometimespeople get stuff and they don't
realize.
Yeah, you know, sometimespeople get stuff and they don't
realize, yeah, yeah what um doyou have like a manager or?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
we have publicist we are working with someone.
We are working with someone,but in terms of, like booking
stuff, it's me and my sister wedo the booking so y'all like
independent.
Yeah, yeah, but we do have like, yeah, we do have management.
(21:51):
We do have, like you know, ateam of network.
We network with people, but interms of like booking me and my
sister, we book our own stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Okay, all right, cool , right, cool, um.
Now with the bookings andeverything.
How is it on the gospel side ofum?
I know it's drama, it gotta beyou know, what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's drama everywhere right, yeah, you know what I
mean, because I'm not you knowI'm just trying to be straight
up like because people want to.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
People want to know, like because even me, I'm new
into understanding how gospelworks as far as gospel music and
just the church, the thingsthat go on in the church, is it
always?
Not always, but do y'all docoming across like barricades
(22:47):
that somebody might like try tostop you from doing something,
or they're like gatekeeping,because there's a lot of
gatekeeping on the R&B, hip-hopside.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think it's in the industry in general.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
In general.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, I would say like years ago it was like a
while ago we might have.
We might have some type ofdisagreement with somebody.
You can just tell you haddisagreement and the person
might have said something thatwasn't proper but, the other
person realized, like theywatched this, like oh, there's
no validity in what they saidand they just disregard what was
(23:20):
said.
So sometimes you have stufflike that, but that's in any way
.
Any anywhere you go, you couldbe at work and someone could.
Y'all could just have adisagreement and y'all can mean
just not be.
You know mashing well, and aperson can say something about
you.
But if a person have goodcommon sense for themselves and
they start well, they canexamine like, okay, that's your
(23:41):
personal feelings, that's notright.
What's actually going on?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
okay, because I mean I just I'm very observant of
certain things, like I one thingabout me.
I just sit back and watch howthings go before I like making a
comment or anything.
That's why I always ask youdon't know if you don't ask you
know, and I see and I'm like whythey doing that, why they
(24:06):
acting like that, or?
But you know, to each his own.
So, like y'all said, it'severywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, I don't think you can avoid it.
I like anywhere you go.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, why you think that is though.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
People.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yes, wanting to protect what they have.
You know, intimidation is a.
It's lots of things you know um.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You know it's lots of things why does which people
realize that if god decides toput you in a space that, even if
I didn't care for you, I can'tremove whatever God has for you
and people need to takethemselves out the equation and
stop thinking that they can holdstuff hostage?
No, if that arena belongs tothat person and you're there, if
(24:57):
you don't move on your own, godwill cause something to make
you move.
God sets people up in highpositions so, like I think,
people in their pride andthinking they can stay here, do
that.
I'd rather leave instead of bemoved by God.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Figure on that, Figure on that.
Um, there are people like soyou know, I used to think as a
kid, you know, when you're apastor, like that's just it,
Like that's all you do, you know, like that's, like that's how
he puts food on the table Forartists, you know, what do you,
(25:37):
what do you do on the side, ornot even the side, like what is
your main thing?
That like your job oroccupation, that you do?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
well, we both work in law y'all lawyers no lawyers
criminal justice yeah we're bothin the same field how y'all end
up in that um, I ended up inthat like forget how many years
now, but I've been in it eversince justice too, so I guess it
(26:08):
just naturally fit.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I also went to school for music and I went to school
for criminal justice.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, all right, and how do you like?
Do you like it?
Because some people, you knowthey just be working just to
work instead of, just like youknow, loving to work.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's not bad.
I mean, I'm accustomed to thefield so it's easy for me, but
it's not my main job.
Like music is our main job, butyou do need money to support
what you're doing Just some fun.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
whatever you're trying to do, that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, for some fun whatever you trying to do?
That's it.
Yeah, kids.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, not physically no .
Speaker 2 (26:46):
No, kids, not physically, but basically we
take care of our nieces.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, for real, those kids, yeah Because.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I got my aunt.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
My aunt's like my mom .
You know what I mean.
You know how family is.
You know, even though you got amom, even though you got a mom,
you still got your aunts.
They're the ones you hang outwith because they super cool,
right?
Yeah, they're spoiled, cj.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
CJ.
Sorry, ariel Aaliyah.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
CJ was the one who was on the first time.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
No, no no, that's our nephew John.
We love him so much.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yes, john, yeah is he the oldest?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
he's not the nephew the niece's nephew no, no, he's
not the oldest.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
My brother and his wife have kids, has a lot of
kids yeah, the boy and the kidyeah, but he isn't the oldest.
My sister that passed herdaughter is the oldest.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So her daughter's the oldest, and then we have nieces
and nephews from there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So yeah, and that's cool.
That's dope, dope, auntie, thesing Do you teach them how to
sing, maybe trying, yeah, no butwe can tell that they have some
skill there, but they just haveto start singing more, and they
have to, you know, come out ofthat shell.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I took choir in senioryear.
That was it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But you can sing, can't you?
It was an easy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
A no, I can't sing you can?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I can hold a note, oh , okay, but you can produce,
yeah, I produce.
I can tell you how to sing Likehey, that's because your keys
and stuff, the gifting, yeah,yeah, yeah, I'm like hey no,
that's not it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sing it like this Because the way and I'd be like
man, how did people be like yo,how do you do that?
And I'm like that's a gift.
I'm like I don't know, but nowthat yeah, it's a gift because
it's like I just I give it backto, like my grandfather.
You know he played records Likethat's why I got a record
(28:33):
player.
You know what I mean.
Like he played records everyday.
You know what I mean Every day.
Then my dad, my uncles, it wasalways a musical.
So your family yeah, my dadplayed the saxophone.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh, I love the sax.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, my brother played the saxophone, I played
the drums, but like mygrandfather, just them oldie but
goodie records, Like he played,you know, and I, just I would
listen, Even when you didn'twant to listen.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It was like Because they was playing it every day.
They played it so loud, yeah,like my grandfather would be, in
the basement and.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'd be on the like upstairs Like you hear all those
songs and I'm like man.
But I think that's what helpswith me.
It's like I can't sing, sing, Ithink if I wanted to like to
get vocal coaching.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's not like that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It would be easy for your thing it would be easy,
because, I mean, I had to do itin choir.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, like every morning.
Yeah, but you process it whileyou're playing stuff?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, I definitely do .
Who do you work with as far asproduction and, you know,
outside of Terrence?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Like do y'all have like a set producer?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
well, like taryn's, like the main producer and um.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We just worked with someone recently named um rick
and I think his last name lisagivins.
He did an excellent job on Ican go home and garrett, who we
always work with.
He shout out to gDA yeah, welove Garrett.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
He's fam.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Now We've been with him since 2020.
And me and my sister didn'trealize it, like it's been five
years now with him, but yeah,this time he helped produce the
record, so that was pretty cooland yeah, so we just we normally
select people who will properlyinterpret what we're trying to
(30:22):
convey, cause, like because alot of people that do know us,
our sound doesn't match ourpersonality to a certain extent,
so sometimes a person willstill try to interpret what
we're trying to convey versusour personality.
That's not the sound that wewant.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So, like right, they'll get it mixed up with our
personalities, because peoplethink maybe we would have a
traditional sound versus a.
It's like you know, it's not,you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We have that in us as well.
But if we're giving yousomething, I don't care how
skillful you are, just respectwhat we're trying to give you
and don't deviate.
Don't do your interpretationsyou are, just respect what we're
trying to give you and don'tdeviate.
Don't do your interpretations.
So I think what we really likeabout Terrence is that, even
though he's accomplished a whole, whole lot, he wasn't acting
like that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
He was very humble and he sent us multiple versions
of Narrow Way so we could behappy and it was a build up,
because initially he was liketrying to see how he wanted to
make sure he was kind of playingit safe, and then he expanded,
as he was like we said you know,you had to tell him be yourself
, you know we wanted him on thetrack.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You gotta give me permission.
He was like all right.
And then he just went Shout outto Esquire.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I love my bro, he's always like that, even when we
was in the studio he justlistens.
I mean, I remember us workingwith Kerry Gordy and he had this
beautiful singer, ayla.
I still keep in contact withher today.
I think she's 18 now, but shewas like 14 or 15 when we was
with her at the studio and itwas just, it was just like like
(32:09):
bugs on the wall just listeningto everything that Kerry Gordy,
you know that's.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Berry Gordy's son yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Listening to everything that he's like doing,
how he's recording her, how hewants it, and he's very
meticulous.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh, he learned from his dad, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was like okay, this is why and you know me being
from Detroit you know Motown'sright there.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And I'm like so this how it was going on, and I know
for sure that that helped himlater on like how to work with
people.
But he's always been humble,always he don't brag, he don't.
He don't brag, he don't.
Yeah, but he just work.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I feel like normally, people that are sure of
themselves doesn't feel the needto brag yeah, no need.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, yeah, like I don't, I don't have to show you
because you know you can.
You can just look it up well,because you know, I feel like
you know, you know yeah, and,and that's that's another thing
too is I think I ain't gonna sayit's a Virgo thing we're both
Virgo, but um, I just think it's, it's more of a, um, we can say
(33:14):
like military yeah, young,background.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You, you know what.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I mean Because, like, we know what we can do.
It's only for you to see it.
You know what I mean.
I can show you better than Ican tell you, but we know, like,
who we are.
It's just like, let us you knowwhat I mean.
Let's try to figure out, likewe always try to come to a
solution Because you know youdon't have people that have
problems.
Everybody comes to you withproblems, never no solution.
(33:40):
So when you have solutions, youknow what I mean and you can
come up with the.
You know how to fix it together.
It's always gonna be, you knowthe, the end goal for us, like,
how can we make this song better?
What can I do to fix it?
Less is more.
Which one we take out which one?
And I think working withartists like y'all is definitely
a plus.
Cause y'all is definitely aplus?
(34:01):
Because a lot of times peopledon't let us be us really yeah,
it's been.
I want it like this, I want itlike this.
Ah, you know what man, um, thatwas another thing for me, like
working with um gospel artists,and it was, uh, she was, I guess
(34:21):
, getting into like gospel rap,oh, and that's a whole another
thing.
You know what I mean, causeit's like they're trying to rap
the word, which they are, butthey're trying to use the same
method as beats as rap, like hiphop oh, okay, so it's nothing
wrong with it, cause I like me1k.
(34:43):
You know about 1K Few yeah yeah,yeah, he's super dope.
He is super dope.
And you know his production isaround my area, like I do that a
lot.
So this girl I was working withone of my friends had hit me up
and said hey, I got a girl thatwants to do that, wants to rap.
She has the song already, shejust wants to remade.
So I listened to the song.
(35:09):
It was Glorilla beat, so that'swhy she wanted it remade.
But she wanted me to remake itjust like that and I'm like
that's stealing.
You can't do that.
I'm like I can't, she's like.
So I made what I thought shewould like.
She's like ah, I don't knowabout that.
Made another one Sent her, likeEsquire sent her another version
, another version, anotherversion, and it got to the point
(35:34):
where I was doing all of thisand she hasn't even came to the
studio.
You know what I'm saying.
And I'm like, and she didn'tpay for it.
My friend, the one thatrecommended me her, paid for it
for her, Like as a gift, like ifyou want to do this like.
If you want to do this music, Iknow somebody that can really
(35:54):
help you with it.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
And she was just like ah, and her and her mom got
involved, was like well, youknow, she wants it like this and
she wants it like that, and I'mjust like but she wasn't trying
to like take, she was kind oflike the round, using it as a
reference right.
No, she, when she sent me therough it was the FNF beat the
(36:17):
song that everybody knowGlorilla from and she was
rapping gospel to it and I'mlike you can't rap over that
like you can't put that out soshe don't understand it right.
So I was trying to explain it toher and her mom, you know, and
I'm okay with like I'm verypatient with people, so I'm like
I'm explaining it to her and Iwas like here, here, go a beat
(36:39):
that can in that realm of it,but it don't.
It's not that.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, you can you can do the realm of it, change it,
but not straight.
Take the exact same thing.
You got to get someone else todo it.
It got to be somethingdifferent.
It can, it can, yeah, but notwhat she was doing.
She was taking the exact samething.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You got to change it and I was like, like you can't.
I said the only way I said youcan rap off that beat, but you
can't put it out.
You can't put it out and try topublish it and have it out on a
streaming platform yeah,because the thing is, you'll get
away with it if it doesn't goanywhere.
Yeah, nobody knows you but, letthat really fly she gonna want
her money, and that's what theydo.
They wait, take off.
If they see it on the radar,they literally will just sit
(37:21):
there and wait and see if it'sgonna take off and then see, or
if they just tired of you,they'll just send a cease and
desist.
But hey, you need to take thatdown now or we're gonna come
after you.
So, um, yeah, that's why youknow asking like, how is it like
working with other producersand you know artists, because I
know sometimes it could be alittle shaky.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I think that's right.
Right now it's just me and mysister.
We do want to implement morepeople, but we just need to make
sure I think sometimes a smallcircle is best, because God been
blessing us with the littlepeople that we've been utilizing
.
Eventually, we were talkingabout we do want to work with
more people, but it just has tobe the right fit people that
we've been utilizing.
So eventually we were talkingabout we do want to work with
(38:03):
more people.
But it just has to be the rightfit.
We like peace.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Gotta protect the peace.
Gotta protect the peace Now.
Alma, I heard you were apublished author.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yes, Talk to me about it.
I have a book.
It's a poetry, spoken word.
It was the first book, andHills and Valleys and the
Spiritual Warfare in Between isthe second.
So the first book is a book ofpoetry.
The second is a book of poetryslash, devotional.
So it's about stuff that I wentthrough in my life, mistakes
(38:38):
and errors that I made in hopesto encourage somebody else, you
know, to.
You know, come to Christ or intheir Christian walk.
That's, that's my hope, that'smy goal, because then I'm, I'm
being really transparent in thebooks, very transparent.
You know some scars I didn'twant to reveal, but people need
to be helped know that youhaven't always been where you
are, you know, currently youknow, it's.
(38:59):
You know it's a process.
Have a past are.
You know, currently.
You know it's.
You know it's a process.
Have a past.
You know, everybody has a past.
Sometimes we want people tothink that we just literally
just always been a certain way Idon't like that, but that's not
true.
That's not real, and peopleneed help and I still need help
and we still need help.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So that's a super fact.
But what?
What started you to?
What made you want to startwriting?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
The young lady that was at our church.
She asked me she's like I wantyou to write a book of poetry?
I'm like, huh, okay, but Ialways.
God gave me faith a certain way.
I mean that you know he gave mefaith a certain way so I would
be like okay, even if I'm notsure I would go after it.
So you know he's like go ahead,sell my book and publishing,
(39:51):
everything is.
And then the second one is in.
Like major stores, walmart ispublished, you know, like
worldwide Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yes, I'm so proud of my sister.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
What was the second?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
book hills and valleys and the spiritual
warfare in between hills andvalleys and the spiritual
warfare in between yes, it's inbarnes, and noble um is it on
like um audible?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
no?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
you gotta get no we have to, but we have another one
coming too.
I have a um, a um it's likemore expanded the first book, so
it's going to be.
I'm have devotion in there also, so that's coming and that will
be on, um, it's going to be.
I want to say I think it may beon, I make sure, um, but it
(40:35):
definitely is going to be on theinternet yeah, I love audio.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I love audiobooks, um , um think, like Think and Grow
Rich Richest man in Babylon.
I just got done with the whatwas it?
Wallow book I just downloaded.
(40:58):
So like when I'm out, when I'mdriving, yeah, I love listening
to the audio books, even home,like I just turn it on, just
listen and I think that's that'sthe books to me.
Um, it reached me more becauseI hear that person voice, or the
person that's reenacting thatthat person help you to connect
(41:21):
it helps me connect, becausewhen I'm just reading, reading.
I'm like, oh okay, all right,Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, all right, it can be boring Something.
I think, because we're artists,I need to be, something needs
to excite me.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I need to feel like I'm going on a rollercoaster.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah of their voice, sometimes like they get low that
helps Like oh, eric Thomas, youOwe you.
Oh my God, that book, like Ilistened to that book and the
way his inflection.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
He knows to keep people's attention.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
He knows how to come low, he knows how to go high, he
knows how to stay in the midand he even talks about it.
Like you know, this is the didit and he's from Detroit and
learning that he was a you knowhe was a pastor minister and you
know he started.
He called himself the hip-hoppreacher now.
So, um, it definitely is superdope to learn, like you know,
(42:11):
the things that you owe yourself.
Um, so, yeah, audibles alwaysget me.
I can go through books, likehow somebody can read books.
I go through an audible likethat.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
That's that music in you too.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, and you can you can fast forward the voice a
little bit, so instead of havingthem talk in their normal slow
voice, I can speed it up to likeI put it at 1.5.
So then I speak a little faster.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
a little faster.
You know what I mean, insteadof them.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Just you know this and that and you got to worry
about this.
You got to look at no, I'd belike hey, you know it's, I'm
like yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I like to read fast.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
I feel you.
I like to read fast.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, so it catches on, it catches, it keeps me
going and it self-reliance,self-direction, something you
know to do.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
What's next for y'all ?
Well, we're performing at theBaltimore Arena for the.
Ciaa next week.
Wow, that's quick, and we'realso performing in April.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Because I was like two weeks ago when y'all told me
yeah, yeah, when y'allperforming in April at PA.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I can't think of the exact address.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Pennsylvania right, I can't think of the city right
now, but Pennsylvania, so it'sgoing to be a concert, so we're
going to.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
it's just us.
We're featured on the concert,so we're honored.
They found us on the internet,reached out to us.
So we've never been there, sowe.
So we've never been there, sowe're honored to celebrate you.
Yeah, it's really exciting togo to different churches and
experience different culturesand experience different ways
that people praise God.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah.
Because it's differentdenominations right.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Which ones have you been to so far?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Well Hope Center was Non-denomination.
Yeah, the one in April, I can'tthink of.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Is it Christian?
No, it's Christian, but yeah,we have to look at it to make
sure.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
but and then we performed at a wedding and it
was really pretty neat becausethey had communion at the
wedding.
Wow yeah, it was really prettyneat because they had communion
at the wedding.
Yeah, it was so backstory.
I have other, different degreesor different things, and I
wanted to be a part of learningmore about medicine and stuff
(44:36):
and do stuff in the medicalfield.
So I was in school for that andbefore I took my test as
singers or anything that you'regifted in, you utilize it to
process stress.
So I was about to take a testand I started singing.
But I was singing to calm medown and my teacher heard it and
she said oh, you have abeautiful voice.
So she wanted me and my sisterto sing my graduation.
(44:57):
So in doing so, the staffmembers found out we could sing.
He found out our music, so weend up singing at his wedding
wow, and from the school yes, so, um, he's black, his, uh, his
wife is white.
And to see the blended family sobeautiful yeah and um as
singers.
(45:17):
If you can sing, you don't needmusic to sing.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
So we would sing without music and the acoustic.
It was beautiful, it was sounique.
I really loved the experienceand that was my first time
seeing someone taking communionat a wedding.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's the first time I ever heard of it too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So it was really great.
And also as singers, it's likeif you can really sing, you
really don't need music.
You don't need anything if youcan sing.
So we were just singing outmusic and they were like really
impressed and really pleased andthey wanted us to sing more
songs, like no, the only exeswas dude.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, yes, they told us later that one of the family
members she was like she wasreally impressed.
She was saying she wanted us tostay more.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, do y'all charge yes For the Absolutely.
I'm just asking.
You know, some people might,you know, might be a love
offering.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I don't know, Even if you do so.
For instance, when I would doconcerts at my church, my sister
would help me and some otherpeople in our church would help.
Right, being an artist, Iprobably wouldn't tell him I was
going to give him my money.
But when he came there, I waslike, thank you, and I put money
in their hand.
They were like, oh, I'msurprised.
No, like you don't have to comehere and do this, you don't
(46:34):
have to do that.
And I value the gift that youhave, so I'm not going to sit
there and not pay you.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
You know.
So yeah, I don't.
I think that people shouldconsider you asked me to come,
so you should think of me, youshould consider that you need me
.
You asked, you asked us, right,mm-hmm?
So show love, you can givesomething.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I totally agree , a love offering something.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Something you know, to show that you appreciate.
Something, because sometimes Ibe like and yeah, and you have
to tell people no sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
All right, now it's time to get.
I love it.
Yeah, we got all the good onesout the way.
I'm about to give you one ofthe best ones.
Question what is your top?
Yo not even gonna say top threefavorite bible verse.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I love.
I have a lot of.
I used to read revelations alot, but I love psalms one.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
I have a couple Ephesians 6, 10.
Finally, my brethren be strongin the Lord and the power of his
might, and it is psalm 119, Ithink 135.
Ephesians 6.10, finally, mybrethren, be strong in the Lord
and the power of his might, andit is Psalm 119, I think 135.
Great peace have they whichlove thy law.
Nothing shall offend them.
So just you know, goals likebeing strong in the Lord.
You know, constantly servingthe Lord and serving the Lord
(48:03):
continually, that's a part ofbeing strong in the Lord.
But the great peace have theywhich love thy law, that's you
know, that's a part of beingstrong in the Lord.
But the great peace of the daywhich loveth Allah, that's you
know.
That's not allowing anything tobother you, not allowing
anything to, you know, offendyou and get in your spirit.
So that's you know that'ssomething that that's.
Psalms 119?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
And that's yeah.
So that's one of mine becauseit's like the goal you know, to
make sure that nothing isbothering us.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know, things happen in life and we not always
like yeah, so we just have to,you know absolutely right, I
like the book of Nahum in OldTestament because no one really
reads from it and it describesand I'm paraphrasing because I
want to take from the Bible butit describes the clouds or the
dust of God's feet and I justthink that's so unique, because
clouds are beautiful, yeah, solike that's the dust of god's
feet, yeah, like that's serious.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I had to check that one out yeah, yeah, it's um,
it's um.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Nahum is n-a-h-u-m.
Yeah, I believe it's the.
I want to say the first chapterand a third verse.
Okay yeah I'll text it to you,but like it just tripped me out,
like, and you don't really hearpeople referencing it, I'm like
it's always New Testament.
No, that's the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
That's what I'm saying.
It's always New Testament thatyou hear about, it's the
normally like.
Nobody really talks about theOld Testament like they, and I'm
learning that too.
Mine is Ecclesiastes 3.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Amen Yep.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Seasons it's time for everything, that's all Well.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
The Bible is relevant anyway, but that's always
relevant.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, because I was in boot camp, and I tell the
story all the time In order forus to get away from the drill
instructors.
It was on Sundays, so that'swhen I started going to church.
Listen, I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
But it helped you.
It helped you, I started goingto church.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
I needed at least a few hours just to get up, man,
because they were always on us,on us, on us.
And you know, the Marine Corpsboot camp is three months,
everybody else is two months,one month.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
But y so like.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I'm like yo, I'm going to church on Sundays and
that's when I found out, becausethey was like man, why don't
you go to church?
You want to get away from thedrill store, to go to church,
like for real, go to church.
And you know it was aProtestant church and I was
listening.
(50:26):
Like I wasn't just there justchilling, I was really like
listening to what he was sayingand he was like Ecclesiastes 3
everything happens for a reason.
There's a season for everything.
You know what I mean.
It's a time for peace, it's atime for war, it's a time to
laugh, it's a time to cry, likeyou know paraphrasing too,
(50:49):
because it's a on me, because Ireally felt everything Like it's
a time for everything.
You know what I mean.
I feel like right now, whatwe're going through right now,
it's just a season.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
It's a season, and what seasons they change all the
time.
So I look at it like that Likewhatever's going on in this
world right now, it'll pass.
You know what I mean.
And it helped me understand me,too, going to actually going to
Iraq Like it's a time for peace, it's a time for war.
(51:22):
You experienced a lot.
I went to Iraq twice so ithelped and I think that me
personally, I think that's whathelped me get through everything
.
You know what I mean.
Build you up, yeah.
So I always look at that and Itell people like Ecclesiastes 3.
You know what I mean and theybe like what.
(51:44):
Ecclesiastes 3.
What are you talking about?
I'm like Go look at it, just golook at it and see what I'm
talking about.
And when they look at it, hey,you're right, it is.
You know what I mean, and it'sit helped me understand.
Like God didn't, he won't.
Like everybody wants, likeyou're great, to have peace, but
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sometimes we have to go fightthose battles against the enemy
that's doing devilish things, oryou know what I mean, things of
that nature.
But you also have to understandthat these people are really
bad.
Are they bad?
You know what?
I mean are they bad, or is itsomebody's agenda to make them
look bad?
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
mean, and then you fight an engine.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
So when you start looking deeper into certain
things, like man, some of thesepeople it's beautiful people in
our rap, you know what I mean.
And we giving out toys playingsoccer with kids, giving them
different things, and you knowit's like they ain't like that.
Was me living like that.
You know what I mean.
They don't even have trafficlights, but just imagine how
(52:50):
many cars be in accidents.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
A lot.
They don't have wow, they don'thave traffic lights.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
They don't have traffic lights, so who decides
when to stop Somebody?
Speaker 2 (52:59):
just be like you go, I go, we like.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
If they speeding like they speed, they speed over
there Like it's no speed limit.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Oh my, so there's no order.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
There's nothing that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
There's no order, there's no structure.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
It's a third world country.
There's no structure at all,like there's no speed limits,
there's no traffic lights.
I'm sorry.
They barely have street lights.
Wow, you know what I mean.
But the houses is crazy.
The houses are beautiful.
Like you know, they like clayon the outside, but they're
beautiful.
We've been inside the housesand that's when we learned, like
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you know, the Arabic Islamicpeople, they, they don't, they
don't wear their hair down untilthey're inside their own house.
Only time you see a woman's hairdown you know, but they have
furniture, but their furnitureis like lower to the ground, and
you know what I mean.
They have the same, you knowsame stuff as us.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
It's just their custom is different.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, it's just it's just different and, um, seeing
that I'm just like yo, thesepeople, these people in the
middle of something they ain'tgot.
They ain't got.
No, it's not even like.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
That's the unfortunate part of war you know
what I mean, and it's like.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
This is how they live .
Speaker 2 (54:11):
And then you.
I mean you have to do whatyou're told, because you're.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, and you know what I mean.
Like it's rules of engagementand things of that nature and we
never, we never did anythingprude to the people.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Oh, that's good, that's good.
You, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
We respected the people, but if you were on our
list as a suspect, then you wereon the list.
We got to snatch you up if weget you.
You know we got to snatch youup.
That was the goal to snatch youup and detain you and bring you
back and question you and stufflike that.
But it didn't always go thatway, you know.
So yeah, just seeing that, likeyou know, I always give a story
(54:52):
Like we used to drive on thetrucks, because that was my job,
I drove the trucks, we used todrive the trucks and you know,
you see a herder and a sheep,you know, walking all the time,
and one time they purposelystrapped a bomb to the sheep
because they knew we would stop,and they strapped a bomb in a
(55:14):
sheep and it blew up one of thetrucks in the front.
It wasn't us, it was anotherunit.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
You had to kill the sheep, though I was with you.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, you know.
That's wicked but yeah, so theywere.
That's how I learned yourespect your enemy, because you
never know the capabilities ofwhat they can do, and that's the
wisdom.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
When you're talking and you are trained and you
talking sense.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, so you have to respect like everybody.
That's why I give peoplerespect until it's shown
otherwise you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
And it's like, okay, let me move on, get out of the
way.
Yeah, yeah, shown, otherwiseyou know what?
I mean, and it's like okay, letme move on, get out of the way A
lot, yeah, yeah, it's funnythat you're saying that because
I used to work in a criminal,insane jail and I know I was
graced for it, but at the time Ididn't realize it, I didn't
think it was a big deal.
My parents were like you for itand they had a lot of respect
(56:15):
for me, like I didn't fear them,like they had a lot of respect
for me but I knew it was good,because if you show fear, yeah,
but that's when they but I thinkthey respect it.
Like so people like oh theycrazy, they're not that crazy.
They know if you're a goodperson, they know if you're evil
right they like they still havesome sense there.
So I wasn't.
I wasn't mean, I wasn'tdisrespecting them, I wasn't
talking to them like they werebeneath me.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, and that's the main thing.
Right there, I feel like peopleautomatically put people on
different levels.
I'm here with you.
I'm here with you, I don't careif you're a billionaire, I
don't care if you're a homelessperson, I'm here with you and
you care if you're a billionaire, I don't care if you're a
homeless person, I'm here withyou.
And you know, even like thehomeless guy down the street at
(56:52):
the 7-Eleven, he asked like youknow what I mean, I really don't
carry cash.
You know, what I'm saying.
But I ask him sometimes hey, doyou want something to eat?
Speaker 2 (57:01):
You know I can get you something to eat.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
I'm and I treat everybody the same because it's
you never know.
You know what I mean.
You could be talking to abillionaire that looks like a
bum.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
But don't care, because they know they really
have the money.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
And that's why I always seen like, I'm like why
these people shouldn't be sodirty.
I don't care that you see theirhouse in there.
I'll be like, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
That's why Okay, that's why Okay, that's why
First class.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yep, first class, dirty, see me walking past you
and coach.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
You're like hey how you doing.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
But yeah, I treat everybody.
Treat everybody the same.
I try to teach my daughter'sdad as well, like you know.
Just because they don't have it, don't make fun of them or
nothing like that.
Because I remember you knowwhat I mean.
That was wasn't like you knowwhat I mean me like.
I was middle class, lowermiddle class, but I didn't have
everything.
You know what I mean, and it'slike you see, everybody else,
(57:58):
with all the Jordans, I mighthave one, pair, two pair or
whatever Nikes or whatever.
I just look at it, you know, andI learned that too.
Like so, out here, everybodywears New Balances.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
In Detroit you can't.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
You would get clowned for wearing New Balances,
really, yeah, but noweverybody's wearing them back
home and I'm like so they phone,they phone yeah like y'all was
getting on us when we was kidswith these New Balances, but now
balances, but not everybody'swearing them now.
So what's the style in Detroit?
Air Force Ones, wow, yeah,forces, air Force Ones, of
(58:34):
course Jordans.
Yeah, jordans.
Like I wear Vans because I wasstationed in California and I
love culture.
Yeah, so I embrace the cultureand if I like the shoe, I'm
gonna wear it.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah, like I'm me.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Like I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
And I love, I always loved skateboarding.
I just couldn't skateboard.
So you know, huh, yeah, I'mlike I ain't about to hurt
myself.
So yeah, it's just, air ForceOnes is the main shoe back home.
Oh, wow, we wear.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Saconis, y'all don't wear Pumas, do you?
Speaker 1 (59:06):
No, we never wore Pumas like that they do now.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Oh, so now?
Because yeah, pumas are instyle here.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, yeah.
So like I know, like the 990swas the that's the mecca here.
Like everybody got a pair ofV4s, v3s, gray, all 990s, but
then you couldn't wear that.
Like those were like grandpashoes, you couldn't wear that,
but then I worked at Foot Lockerand I was like, man, let me try
(59:31):
on these shoes, while everybodyalways be gassing these shoes
and I'm like, oh, they'recomfortable, yeah, because
everybody's always on the go.
They're on the metro, they'reon the bus.
They got to walk somewhere.
System in Detroit, no, here.
New York, chicago and I believeLA are the only ones that have
(59:54):
like a train system.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Wow, I've never been to Detroit.
I would like to go to Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
We've been a lot of places.
You'll love it.
If you don't like the cold,don't go now, but if you like
the summertime, it's humid.
It's humid like anywhere else.
Okay, yeah, before we get outof here, I want to do my thing I
always do.
It's called gym class, notG-Y-M, g-e-m.
(01:00:25):
What gym can you leave a youngwoman, a young adult, a young
person, young human being?
What gem can you leave them?
To carry them, you know, to addto their toolbox?
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Oh, you touched on it earlier about seasons.
Just persevere through yourseason.
If it's a rough season rightnow, keep going through it,
because seasons do change.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I like that I do, I'm so hello my sister, she's a
I'll call her the principalthat's my nickname for her.
The principal, I would say staytrue to yourself.
It's okay to get inspirationfrom other people, but don't be
so inspired that you'remimicking them, you're copying
them, you're intentionallytrying to be them.
God created you to be yourself,so be yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Be true to yourself, persevere through the seasons,
keep it going, anything elsey'all want to tell everybody
when can they reach you?
At the Fisher Girls.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Yep at the Fisher Girls Facebook, instagram,
tiktok and YouTube under theFisher Girls also.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But our website.
You can email us for bookings.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yep.
So the Fisher Girls look us upFacebook, instagram and please
purchase our new song I Can GoHome.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yes, and the Fisher Girls email is fishergirls2 at
gmailcom.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yes.
Fishergirls2 at gmailcom.
Yes, and like that we gone.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
No problem.
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