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What happens when a classically trained dancer from Philadelphia's performing arts scene becomes a Marine Corps journalist and eventually a professional dominatrix? Goddess Dealana's fascinating life journey breaks every conventional expectation while demonstrating the power of authentic self-expression.
Growing up in North Philly's Strawberry Mansion neighborhood gave Dealana a foundation in both artistic expression and street smarts. Her path through dance and theater training led unexpectedly to military service when a Marine recruiter's professional demeanor impressed her more than her Army recruiter's. Throughout her four active-duty years as a combat correspondent, she developed skills that would serve her well across multiple careers.
The conversation takes a compelling turn as Dealana openly discusses her transition into professional BDSM work. She specializes in financial domination, where submissive clients derive satisfaction from relinquishing control of their finances to a powerful woman. With remarkable candor, she explains how this role aligns with her naturally dominant personality while challenging the submissive conditioning she received in her religious upbringing as a Hebrew Israelite.
Between her body sculpting business "Body Thief" and her dominatrix work, Dealana has created a life uniquely her own. Her wisdom about the power of words to shape reality and the importance of staying true to yourself despite others' opinions offers universal value regardless of your life path. As she puts it: "You are the star of your own show - focus on developing your story arc. Don't worry about what other people think."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we back First episode for April.
As everybody know, I'm Tweezy.
Who do I have to?
The left of me, right of me?
It's crazy, you ain't going tosay your name.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, I thought you said I thought you were going to
introduce me.
Yeah, I'm Goddess Delana on theother side.
Tweet tweet tweezy.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, so we met.
I don't even know, it's beenlike five years.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Probably like four years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I wanted to drop something off for you, for
Kadeem, and that's when I foundout that you were prior military
.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
How did I drop off?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The Semper Fit sweatsuit that I still be
wearing sometimes.
I really like it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, Semper Fresh.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Semper Fresh SF.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
They stay rocking some of the merch.
How did you jump into the Firstoff where you from?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Like I jumped right out the Marine Corps at Simper
Fit.
My bad, that's Marine Corps.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's Marine Corps.
It is Marine Corps.
That's the gym version.
You know what I mean.
But yeah, so where you from.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Originally I'm from Philadelphia, so not that far
from where I live now.
I'm still out by Quantico,which was my last duty station,
but yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I'm from Philly.
Okay, what was your upbringing?
Like you know, coming up fromPhilly, what part of Philly?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
North Philly.
In the beginning, like when Iwas a little girl up to seventh
grade.
Strawberry Mansion, where oh,let me turn my phone up where
Kevin Hart is from, yeah, andyou know Bill Cosby and stuff
all from Strawberry Mansion.
And then we moved out southwest59th and Baltimore and I went
to a performing arts high schoolshout out to Kappa.
(02:07):
And uh, yeah, I had a decentupbringing.
Um, originally my parents weremarried, then divorced.
Our life did change a littlebit with my mom becoming um
because she was a stay-at-homemom and then she had to start
working and things like that.
So life did change but it wasall good.
I had a really good childhood,Very artistic, very supportive,
(02:32):
very loved.
Good childhood.
I mean I grew up in the hood.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
She was cool too.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm from 27th and York, like Dolphin and all that
area, and it was all black and Ireally liked the way I grew up.
All the businesses were blackon too.
So I did grow up seeing blackexcellence, so to speak, black
entrepreneurship, and althoughwe did live like in the hood,
(03:02):
there was really family, itwasn't violent.
I didn't grow up in a violentneighborhood.
It was very familial.
We had the candy lady on theblock, we had block parties,
like.
Everybody was really close andI'm actually still close with a
lot of my friends fromelementary school.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's dope.
So you went to the performingarts school.
What was you doing?
Was you acting?
Was you playing any instruments?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I was a dance and theater arts major.
So, most of my classes weredance, but when you major in
dance they make you take vocallessons and acting.
So my school day was like twoperiods of dance and then one
period of a different art, likeit could be the theater class or
vocal lessons, but we only hadthose alternative ones like two
(03:50):
or three times a week, but Idanced every day, two periods a
day.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, what were some things that inspired you to go
to the performing arts school?
Were you always a dancer?
Were you always acting, doingtheater around the house?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
yeah, I, my mom, like she was super supportive of me
being in art and she workedreally, really hard to pay all
those high fees.
Like I did go to FreedomTheater, which I think Freedom
Theater ended up closing.
I'm not sure, but FreedomTheater was huge for a lot of
(04:30):
Philadelphians in their actingcareer, like, namely, erica
Alexander.
I think they just named thestreet after her off of Freedom
Theater, like Broad Street, offof Freedom Theater, like Broad
Street.
Oh okay, yeah, like FreedomTheater was a big foundational
(04:51):
block for my dancing career andaspirations.
I started that in elementaryschool and then but yeah, I was
always funny and my momencouraged that it was a part of
our family.
Bonding we would have liketalent shows and stuff at the
barbecues, things like that, andyeah, I guess it was just part
(05:13):
of our family being a comedian,being funny and doing
impersonations.
Off too, because you know, mymom would say when we were
really small she would take usto wherever and, um, people
would just give us free things.
She was just saying you guyswere just so cute, we would get
free meals, free whatever, andso then she had me doing
(05:36):
impersonations.
Oh well, I'll tell you how itstarted.
I was one of those um, askquestion every minutes, little
type of toddlers and I wascurious about everything and my
mom told me that some of thestuff I would ask she didn't
know the answer to.
Like she did not know.
I would ask everything, fromwhy is the sky blue to I mean
everything.
And so she said one day shejust started saying, hey, you
(05:59):
know why don't you memorize this?
She's the one that kind ofstarted me doing I would do Mae
West impersonations.
A lot of people don't know whoMae West is, but I am almost 50
years old, so Mae West was athing when I was a little girl.
So she had me start learningMae West and I would do like hey
, come up and send me some timetype of thing.
And it kind of started fromthere.
(06:22):
My mom just distracted me fromscientific questions that she
didn't know the answer to toentertain in some other type of
way, and so I think that kind ofstarted it and the attention I
got from the people I guess mademe want to do it more.
And then I wanted to be aprofessional actress and dancer
and entertainer and I was goingon auditions and stuff like that
(06:43):
.
So when I was real small, I wasacting and I had done some
small stuff like plays and likethere was a show they filmed in
Philly called Captain Kangaroothat was on their show, just
like little things, until I wasabout 10, 11.
And then I stopped professionalwork and then I just focused on
school.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, just focus on school, okay, so with all of
that acting, wanting to be likethe class clown, or acting in
front of your mom and yourfamily, how did you end up to
the Marine Corps?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, that was not planned.
No-transcript, and, but for memy recruiter was just terrible.
(07:54):
Oh, it's so sad to say that.
No, sometimes you got to keepit a buck, I do so we're going
to keep it 100.
Especially when it comes to themilitary, yeah, like dude, his
uniform would be dirty, like hesmelled like cigarettes.
He was late all the time,meeting me, even to the point
where he was late.
He took me to my ASVAB testlate and he had to, like,
(08:20):
convince the lady to let us inand take the test because he was
late.
The proctor, yeah, the testproctor.
So, long story short, we didget in, I took the test and
everything I did well.
And one day I was outside andhe was late and I was waiting
for him because the place I wasgoing to to meet him was at one
of those recruit depots.
So all the services was inthere, yeah, and I happened to
(08:42):
just be outside waiting and theMarine Corps recruiter walked up
and he was like you waiting onyour recruiter again, ain't you?
And I was like yep, and he waslike, well, listen, he's like,
if you want to be a part of amore professional establishment,
follow me.
No, he said more professionalorganization, follow me.
And that's all he said.
(09:04):
And I did Like he professionalorganization, follow me, yeah,
and that's all he said.
And I did like he walked past,opened the door and I just
pretty much about face and walkright behind him and then I was
like well, I've taken that, I'vetaken the asvab already under
the army, he said, but youhaven't dipped in, he said.
So he said I can get everythingswitched, uh, to the marine
corps.
That's how I ended up going inthe marine corps.
It wasn't that wasn't reallypurpose.
It was about how the recruiterswere and it just seemed like
(09:28):
the best one.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Dang, that's crazy.
So the appearance and how hepretty much carried himself is
the reason why you went to theMarine Corps.
Dang, my dad was a Marine too,dang, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
My dad was a Marine too, though.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So that made more sense.
But you know, like most of thetime, like when your parent is
one branch, we always try to golike a different way.
Or you know, like grandparents,like for me, my grandfather, my
uncle, was in the Army on mydad's side and then on my
grandma's side.
You know, my grandfather was inthe Air Force and the Navy.
(10:10):
So like I'm like, well, I don'twant to do one of them.
I seen them in it.
You know what I mean, but Ihaven't experienced it.
So I was like you know what,let me try something different.
You know what I mean.
And I was kind of like the samething, like what my recruiter
told me what was your MOS?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I was public affairs.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, you was PA.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, my MOS doesn't even exist anymore.
I was a combat correspondent,so it was like I was not.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That was my B billet but I was not.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That was my B-billet.
But I was a writer, writer,photographer.
So before they separated justwhat they said combat camera and
PAO, they combined those two.
But back in the day it waseither you did the journalism
and you may have, you know,taken accompanying art you know
they always gave us a camera kitand you know we wrote or you
(11:08):
were straight up like on thedigital side and they called it
a combat camera and those arethe ones that made the videos
and all that.
So no, my accent actuallystopped me.
I did audition for AFN so theyended up making it my B-billet
because of my Philly accent.
They said it was too strong.
Yeah, they said you needed amore neutral accent, but they
(11:29):
had put New.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yorker up there.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's what I said.
That's what I was, just like,whatever.
Maybe now it's different, butthis was 2004 or two and they
just said they wanted a moreneutral accent, right.
That's crazy, but they stilldid make it my B-billet, like I
said, it still was on my record,though I could do it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, because I had a homie.
I was saying, I think, an otherepisode ago that he was from
New York and he was on the AFNnetwork and I was in Iraq at 05,
and I'm like yo, that'sDeJaralimo, like what.
We was just in boot camptogether a year ago.
So you know what I mean?
That was crazy.
(12:09):
So you did journalism, yeah.
Yeah, I mean that's dope, like,if you think about it, you went
from dance theater tojournalism.
Like those three alone, youknow what I mean, are different,
are different creative.
You're just a creative allaround yeah, I think I am and
(12:32):
and then, how long did you do,uh, public affairs while you was
in?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
the whole time I did public affairs um.
I just did one.
Well, you know how it is youget four active and four
inactive.
You get your real um separation.
You're eight years later, but Ionly did four active.
I did do my inactive reservetime actively, if you would say
that, like I participated in allmy ir activities.
(12:58):
I did my um mol, like my marineonline stuff.
I took all my classes Like Idid all the stuff I was supposed
to do Because, honestly, Ithought about coming back in
Because I had got accepted toOCS.
I was going to be a publicaffairs officer Because I had my
degree already.
My degree was in broadcast andso I did dance.
(13:21):
I went to Temple University.
I did dance.
I was a diamond gem.
It's still hard to get on thatscene that Danny knows nothing
to sneeze at Greataccomplishment.
However, I didn't major indance because I would just be a
hundred.
We'd be in a buck on thispodcast.
I didn't have the confidence inmyself.
I thought that I would be astarving artist.
(13:42):
I didn't see, I didn't knowthat you could make a lot of
money dancing choreography.
I knew you could do, but atthat time I thought you need
this connection or that, like Ijust didn't have the confidence
in myself and I should havestayed with it, because some of
my friends they still doing sowell right now, like some of
them dancing for, like Cirque duSoleil or, you know, the Eagles
(14:06):
or the Sixers.
Like it was a straight pipeline, like if you majored in dance
and you did a diamond gym youwas most likely going to get on
the Eagles team or the um,you're going to get a chair
position or a dance positionsomewhere.
But at that time I couldn't seeit and I knew what I could do,
naturally, was God given talent,I could write, I could write
(14:29):
and my mom had always told me ifyou write well, you'll always
have a job.
And so just the fear kind ofled didn't major in journalism.
I didn't major in theater likeI had majored in broadcasting,
telecommunications and massmedia.
I learned everything.
(14:51):
I learned radio, I learnedvideo, I learned, you know, back
in the day we cut and splicereels, like before digital came
out.
Right, I was doing that, makingprojects, making music, like
writing things, things liketheater, like yo BTMM, I think,
is the best major out there Ifyou're not exactly sure what you
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want to do, but you know how tocommunicate and you want to
learn that and you want to makegood money.
I took broadcast performance.
I thought I wanted to be a newsanchor, so that major when I
say helped me in the rest of mylife.
That was the one, and it helpedme with the Marine Corps because
(15:33):
I already knew how to write.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So before you joined the Marines, you went to Temple,
so we got to the 26th.
Yeah, we got to touch on that?
Yeah, yeah, we got to touch onthat because you went to a
performing arts school,graduated, went to Temple,
studied and got your degree inbroadcasting right, Is it
(15:56):
communications?
What's the whole degree?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's the whole thing BCMM, Broadcast
Telecommunications, Mass Media.
So I also learned how peoplethink and how to communicate,
how advertising works.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm telling you that's the best major ever now
it all makes sense how likeeverything is is going into.
You know, like what you do nowyou know, I mean because when I
met you, um, you were you have abusiness in body sculpting,
right.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, let's talk about it.
What's the name of the businessand what you do?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, so I am a master esthetician.
So after the Marine Corps, Iused my gi bill to go to
aesthetic school at the masteraesthetic school because, yeah,
I could have done it and got anadvanced degree in, like,
journalism or broadcast orcommunications, whatever to
build off of my bachelor's, butI wanted to learn something with
(16:58):
my hands.
And so at the time I wasstruggling with really bad skin
and I wanted to understand itmore and I'm like, well, it
would be a free education.
I'm gonna do that because, um,in between that I had worked on
cruise ships.
Like I got a really very lifeexperience.
Um, after the Marine Corps, Iworked on cruise ships, I worked
(17:18):
on carnival and then after thatI started selling cars, like,
so it's a weird littletransition there and the cars
business got really slow and soI'm like, what else can I do?
And that's when I said I'mgoing to use the GI Bill to do
something tactile, somethingthat don't depend on whatever.
(17:39):
Like, people are always goingto be concerned about their
aesthetic, what they look like,and they're going to find the
money for that.
Like, because I've seen it inmy life People, they may not
have money for whatever, butthey're going to have money for
their lashes, or they're goingto get money for their hair, or
they'll start trying to do itthemselves.
But the point I'm making I madeto myself is it's important to
people how they look, how theycome across, and so I want to
(18:02):
learn how to do this, and thatwas what made me take the
aesthetics course.
And then one thing led toanother, and I ended up opening
my own body contouring business.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So with that business , you said you're a master
esthetician because you had, youknow, things with your skin.
I don't know if you can seemine, but you know what's some
pointers you can give me,Because you know as men, you
know we.
How can I put it For me?
I can't say for everybody.
I know a lot of people's skinthat look worse, but I think I
have good skin.
(18:39):
You know greater skin, however,you say it, but how do you
maintain that, Like what's somethings I can use or or some
things I can do, or I can getfrom the store, or what you do
when you, when I come to you?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
okay, that's.
That's super easy.
You do look like you havedecent skin, especially like up
here in your forehead.
I could see um cleaning it,cleaning your body being
hydrated with water um, not likejuice and soda, just straight
up spring water and um cleaningyour skin at least once a day.
(19:16):
I know everybody say two, but Iknow sometimes people's
lifestyle, whatever it is, theycan't do two of at least wash
your face once a day.
You want to?
If you don't like to drinkwater, you can.
What I tell people eat yourwater with water.
Um fill foods like celery,cucumbers, watermelon, things
like that like foods.
(19:37):
They have a lot of water inthem.
And also, um.
A great skincare line that Ialways recommend to people
that's good for all skin typesis called Simple, simple
skincare.
It's very affordable, it'srice-based, it's hypoallergenic
and it's super easy to use.
(19:58):
So I would say you could getSimple skincare, get the
cleanser and get the moisturizerand and maybe the sunscreen and
that's about it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Where can I get that at?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Anywhere Rite Aid, cvs, anywhere that has a
skincare section you should beable to find it.
It's a UK-based brand, but it'sdistributed here, and it's been
distributed here at least 10years now.
Okay, but the vision of mycompany.
Yeah, just just go simple andthe color is white and green or
(20:32):
green.
It's just green based whitecolor packaging and my company
name is Body Thief Body ThiefBody Sculpting.
It's a little homage to AnneRice.
I love vampires, I love, butthat book isn't about a vampire,
but I love Anne Rice and sowhen I was thinking of my
business name and helping peopleshape their bodies non-invasive
(20:58):
, and stuff like that I was likewhat is that?
Like stealing fat, snatchingfat?
Oh, I'm gonna be the body thieflike.
And it just went from there.
So the business is likeburglary themed.
It's like really cool.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, that's a good play on words.
Definitely a good play on words.
How many years you been havingbody thief?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Body thief was born 2019.
Unfortunately, out of a divorce, but my second marriage didn't
work out either, unfortunately,but it brought Body Thief into
the world and I love my businessOkay.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, because when I came in there you was working on
somebody.
I forgot what I had to drop off, but it was something from
Kadeem.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
The Semper Fresh, the sweatsuit.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh it was, it was.
It was a hoodie and a pants.
Was it the crop top one?
No, oh, no, no, it was the onewith the stitching.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's really nice.
It's such good quality too.
I still wear that sweatsuit.
It's really really nice.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I had the blue one.
I didn't have the other color,but I had the blue one.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I got that black and gray.
It was from Alejandra.
I met him through her, his wife.
She was coming to me, she hadjust had some.
I was doing some post-op on her.
Boom yeah, and that meeting,and everything.
She and boom yeah, and then weend and everything and she's an
amazing Marine too.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
She used to be a drill instructor.
Yep, yep, both of them, both ofthem.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Oh, I didn't know he was a drill instructor too.
That's how they met.
See A lot of them be meetinglike that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, that's how they met.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, yeah.
So it was just like when we metwe just clicked and she was
telling me about her husband andhis business and how we could
support each other and that hedo photography too.
We talked about that because Iwas thinking about having him
shoot some stuff for me and allthat.
It was just everything.
Just.
I love my Marines.
I love my Marine Corps friends.
I didn't serve with them, butyou know how it is.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's family.
It's family, yeah, it's family.
We always, I mean granted, yougot your ones and twos, you be
like, eh, but 98% of the time,hey, we like this.
You good what you need.
You know what I mean.
So that's how it is, I love.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I miss that, I miss having, I miss living on base.
Like people love to shit onliving on base, but that was my
best time in the Marine Corpswhen I was living on base, Base
housing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I was living on base housing.
My last tour I was in Pendleton, 374, Parmesan Circle, and like
I'm telling you, I'm like, oh,this ain't bad after all.
I had a nice crib, too Nicecrib, it was super nice my
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neighbors ain't bothering meLike it was nice.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Everybody is cool school.
Listen, I would trade that forthe world.
I used to have barbecues allthe time.
I loved being so close to work.
My son was going to school onbase.
It was just so that littlecommunity.
You ain't even hardly have toleave base if you ain't want to.
All your friends were there.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody was there.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That was the time and I was in that new base house in
Quantico they had just built,so it was like with the garage
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like my house was like.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, my house was so nice Like yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I wouldn't tradethose days for nothing in the
world.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now you got the body sculpting.
You got broadcasting mass media.
You got Marine Corps.
You said you was a car salesmanat once.
You was doing all type of stuff, right?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I used to drive a cab For real Yup Right out here in
Virginia.
I used to drive a cab just forthe summer.
I never done it before, so I'mthe type of person if I've never
done something I want to try it.
I'm going to do it, yo.
I was making like $150 a day,though, like driving a cab is
actually, you could make somebank driving a cab.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, my grandfather used to do it Yellow cab back in
Detroit.
He the first Soulja Boy can'ttake this from him, but he the
first cab driver to drive fromDetroit to California in the cab
.
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Why did he do that?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
My grandpa because he didn't care.
He always loved it.
He had a fare.
No, he didn't have a fare, hejust drove, like he drove the
cab.
He used to drive trucks toowhen he got out.
So he like drove the cab fromDetroit to California.
He used to drive it to Floridaall the time, but that's where
he from.
But he drove it to California.
I said ain't no way.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Ain't no way we about to drive y'all, me and my
homegirls, when we get to thatother part of my life which we
gonna get to, we're about todrive down to New Orleans.
I haven't done a road tripsince my 20.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What kind of vehicle y'all riding in?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
first of all, A Honda CRV, but it's a brand new one,
that's a bigger one?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Mm-hmm, yeah, I was about to say you need some type
of room.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You need some type of room 2024 or 2025.
Either way, she said it's brandnew.
It's new, yeah.
So yeah, it should be decent.
It's just going to be three ofus.
It should be good.
It's going to be good.
Yeah, I'll be straight it's 17hours, we'd be all right yeah, I
drove.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, that's about right, because I drove from
dallas to dc and I was like 18hours well, I drove from philly
to oklahoma like fort sill andthat was 22 hours, sheesh and
I'm driving.
See them driving days.
I loved them and I got thememories of me driving from Cali
(27:03):
, from Detroit, to Cali, fromCali back to DC.
Cool, I ain't doing that, nomore.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I know it just seemed like it was going to be a fun
adventure so this is what leavesme back to what we were just
talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you got all of these things and your name.
I know your name from somethingelse, but now your name is
Goddess Alana.
So let's talk about this name.
And why is it this name?
Because everybody you know.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, everybody don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Everybody don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Like I'm not scared, like I've thought about it, like
I've thought about starting awhole new social page and this
and that, and I was like I don'tcare.
Like once I told my dad aboutit.
It was a wrap.
I didn't care what nobody elsethought.
I told my mom, I told my dad, Itold my son I don't care what
(28:10):
anybody else thinks.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
What your dad say.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yo, my dad, think it's the funniest thing ever.
My mom is the one.
Yeah, my mom is the one.
That's like she.
I told her what I do.
She say you do that.
I say she look like this shutup.
I just rest out laughing,that's all she said she said,
(28:40):
she said hey my dad, yo, my dad.
He is hilarious.
He was all like my baby gotslaves and they white.
He was like I love that.
He was like my baby got slavesand they white.
He was like my baby got slayed.
(29:02):
He was like anyway.
He was like yeah, I love it.
He was like what's his name?
He'd be asking me about him andstuff because I give him names.
He's like how much to do it.
So I know your listenersprobably like what's she talking
about?
So y'all, I'm a pro dominatrix.
I specialize in financialdomination, but I'm also a
sadist, so I also conduct impactplay sessions and impact means
(29:24):
exactly what that is Impact,specifically trampling.
I love trampling.
I'm very petite, I'm like 110pounds on a good day, so I can
trample, especially if theperson has a nice strong core,
strong chest or whatever.
I can even jump off ofsomething and you know, onto
them, but I like trampling.
(29:45):
I like what's called CBT, whichis cock and ball torture.
Like I like kicking them in theballs and I like flogging.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Flogging is when you're whipping somebody.
Oh, okay Was that like a man.
Yo ain't this cute.
Shout out T-Mu with the phonecases, yeah it's a little man.
And then it got a little coverfor your phone too.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh, that's crazy.
It really is a phone case.
Wow, so you said fogging,flogging.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Flogging.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Flogging.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, All right so caning is kind of good, like
with the cane, like it's abamboo cane.
I haven't had many submissiveslike into that, but I did take a
class like and I don't just doso willy-nilly, like I'm into
this like for real, like, uh, Itake classes, I have a mentor, I
(30:50):
, I have two own subs, and ownedjust means that they only
submit reports to me, they payreparations, I finance I.
My niche is Black.
New World Order, financialsupremacy, female supremacy,
female-led everything, femalenon-relation Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah.
So like I'm super new to all ofthis, like when I asked you a
while ago, I'm like what?
Like you do this, like what begoing on?
Like how do you find thesepeople?
Like it's like a whole notherworld.
You know what I'm saying, youknow?
Like for me, like I do music,it is another world, it's a
(31:35):
whole nother world.
It's like the black market.
You know what I mean.
It's a whole nother world.
It's like the black market.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Only certain people know, but you know what's really
.
What I hate about it I guessI'll start that first is the
stigma and like the fact thatVisa or PayPal or one of them
type of things would like shutmy account down if they knew I
was getting paid for BDSMsessions, because this is a part
(32:02):
of BDSM and that part I don'tlike because it's hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
These people that own these companies.
They be indulging in BDSM trustand belief, because most of my
clients are wealthy businessowners Like oh, and I also
specialize in something calledtpe, which is total power
exchange and um.
But the fact that they wouldflag your account for something
like that when all this otherstuff is legal makes no sense.
(32:32):
But that's neither here northere, so there's special
platforms that I get paidthrough.
But how do these people find me?
Just, you know regularmarketing, the way I post things
.
I say the people that's in thelifestyle, like I used to be
more overt, covert with it, butnow I'm just like it's whatever.
Yeah they know the terminologyand stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
How would you describe like the job
description of Dominatrix?
Who has never heard of itbefore?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay Ooh, who has never heard of it before?
It literally plays off of thatword.
So a dominant person, thiscould be the male or the female.
So if you want to goterminology wise, it would be
the dominant person and then thesubmissive person.
But you also have people thatgo both ways, so they call them
(33:27):
switches.
I am not a switch.
I don't submit and I don't putmyself in a submissive position
either.
I think, if that makes sense,submissive positions either.
I think if that makes sense.
So I'm not the person that wouldwant to be like tied up or
deprived of any sensory things,or even like in my even before I
(33:50):
, like I've always had adominant personality, that is
true, but but I still hadconditioned, traditional
conditioning.
I still have a religion in mybackground too.
I was a Hebrew, israelite, likespeaking Hebrew, everything.
So we're taught that the womanshould be submissive to the man,
(34:17):
in the sense of just lettinghim lead the relationship,
leading everything.
Like you have your input andstuff.
Like I remember, like I used tobe married to a minister,
actually, but like the elder'swife at the temple I used to go
to, she would give like womenclasses and training and she
would just teach you like, yes,the man is the head, but we are
the neck.
We actually you know.
(34:39):
So the difference is the head,but we are the neck, we actually
you know.
So the difference is, insteadof like finessing a man, um,
because a lot of times the womenlead in the background anyway,
because we more so be seeingthrough stuff and y'all be
coming to us too, like, well,this and that, like anybody
that's been married, I would sayno, a lot of times the woman is
behind the man.
That's really giving them that,uh yeah, and the ability to go
(35:02):
out and do what they do.
I always say that's why men gotthe muscles, but we a lot of
times can see everything and allthe parts more Like.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, you rationalize , women rationalize it and kind
of see things better versus usgoing straight at things.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
A lot of times women do lead the relationship, we
just lead in the at things.
A lot of times women do leadthe relationship, we just lead
in the background and a lot oftimes it's because of the ego
that had been instilled in menfrom patriarchy.
But, realistically speaking,I'm like men usually defer to
what we think when, especiallywhen, they love and respect us,
the women in their lives, theysee our wisdom, they know we got
it and I think so.
(35:39):
When it comes to the femalebeing the dom, men have a
fantasy because of patriarchyand stuff, they want a woman to
be dominant over them and leadthem.
But I do it for money.
(36:00):
So, and in my personalrelationships before you even
ask about that, because a lot ofpeople do ask they're like well
, how are you in your personalrelationship?
Yeah, I don't prefer asubmissive man to date.
Right In the sense of I don'twant somebody.
I feel like there's a pushover.
(36:21):
Being submissive don't meanRight In the sense of I don't
want somebody I feel like is apushover.
Being submissive don't mean thatyou let somebody walk all over
you and disrespect you.
It just means that you defer tothem as the leader and, I guess
, the last voice of the decisionis going to be made.
Okay, but I like more dominantmen, but not a man that claims
to be alpha either, because Ithink that's BS, that's just
(36:43):
that.
Don't mean nothing Like I don'tknow what that is, that's just
some type of posture, machoposture, and I don't deal with
it.
I think those people areinsecure.
So, but again, to explain tosomebody that never heard of it,
just literal definition ofdominant and submissive is we
play that out literally in whatwe call scenes.
(37:05):
So these are scenes.
A lot of times there are peoplethat do this lifestyle and
that's just how they live, whichis the path I'm going on, the
path I'm going on, but right nowit's just pro-play.
I do scenes with people andthen the ones I own.
(37:26):
It's an almost dailyinteraction.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, they have daily tasks that they need to do.
I monitor everything and Icontrol their life remotely
because they don't the ownsubmissives that I have.
Don't live in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So I do everything through.
So you controlling a submissiveor a sub as you call it right,
you controlling them remotely.
That's crazy.
What that's crazy.
What do you think?
The main distinctions betweendominatrix and sex work?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
The main difference.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, what's like the dominatrix service versus a sex
worker.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm still considered a sex worker, even though I
don't have sex, like becauseit's still sexual for them, like
, and I guess for me too.
Like it is a sexual exchange onboth parts.
Like I do get turned on bybeing, by taking that much
control and that much power oversomebody, like literally just
(38:44):
tell us about hey, I'm going outwith my friends, send for
drinks and they send within 60seconds, yeah, that gets me off.
Like it's a little bit of oh,you get that little bit of those
little um vibration sensationsso it was um, there's still a
sexual thing to it, even thoughit doesn't involve their sex
(39:05):
organs, it's still sex work.
Um, the difference is I'm justnot in a submissive position and
I don't care about the physicalarousal of the man.
Like I don't care, like that'sone thing.
I say I don't care about thatflesh between your legs, right
Like.
But for them, sending me moneygets them off, giving me that
(39:29):
control gets them off.
The fear of not being incontrol is what turns them on.
The fear, like, because I dochastity too, and chastity for
the newbies or any peoplelistening don't know what that
is.
Y'all heard of a chastity whatthey used to call it back then
for women, where it was aliteral key to unlock down to
(39:51):
get to the vagina.
I make the men wear ChastityCage over their penis and I
control the key.
So, like the one I think yousaw, like last week, I named him
Asset467.
He gave me the Asset467.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You're like it's midnight yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I put him up there, you man it to.
You call him it.
You're no longer a man, You'rejust a cell phone Ask him 467?
.
You're my plaything, wow.
So yeah, I said 467.
He had a lockbox but he sent methe app and I changed the
master password so he has thephysical key.
(40:35):
But I made him put the key intothat strong box and I changed
the password so he couldn't getinto it and I made him sleep
with the box on the pillow nextto him.
Just the first.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
And the fear and the understanding that you don't
control it.
I do.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
So how did you get started in this career path?
Because you know what I'msaying.
Like you weren't, like I said,acting theater, dance, dance,
tempo what was the name of thedance group you was a part of?
In tempo, freedom theaterBroadcasting.
(41:21):
Like how did you just jumpMarine Corps, then Body Thief
and then let's go this way, likehow did that happen?
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Like I ain't even going to lie Money at first.
First it was just money.
First it literally was one ofmy friends, maureen.
She is what's called a sensualtop and she does sensory stuff.
So she's a dom, but she usessensuality topping her clients.
(41:56):
I use humiliation anddegradation.
You know, for my clients wehave two different type of
clients.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
But she was the one who told me you should be a dom,
like professionally.
And I'm just like, because Istill have that religious
upbringing.
So I'm like, no, I'm not doingnothing like that.
I'm still fighting against mynatural nature of dominance,
trying to make to bring that alldown so I could be a good girl,
a good woman, so I could beputting the inside of God out
(42:28):
how I thought it used to be.
And so for a few years her andthis other guy went to the
Marine Corps with, actually, aboyfriend of mine.
He's a top and I'm just likethe Marines be diamond, like
what is going on, you know.
And they said you should lookup Mistress Marley.
And Mistress Marley is afinancial dominatrix, but she's
(42:51):
like a famous one.
She'd been all over theinternet, news, everything.
And I was like maybe I shouldtry this.
And once I looked up mistressmarley's stuff and I saw that
you could just get money justfor being a powerful woman.
A man would just give you moneyjust because you're he thinks
you're above him.
I was just like, right, let metry this because I had been a
(43:14):
sugar baby before by accident.
But it happened Like I've beenmen giving me money and stuff
for nothing in return Been likefor a long time.
But I didn't know that was atype of man.
I didn't even know that was afinancial submissive.
So I've had financialsubmissives in my past.
I just didn't know that's whatthey were because I didn't feel
(43:35):
like I was the one making themdo it.
They wanted to do it so yeah.
So it was a long like.
It was like bits and piecesthrough the years and then
finally I was like I needed somefast cash and I said let me try
this financial dominatrix thing.
And I signed up for MistressMarley's Patreon on the $5 level
and then I said let me just dothe $20.
(43:57):
And it just opened up all thevideos and stuff and I started
watching and I was like I coulddo this and I just started small
One, you know set up my Twitter.
Then I set up a night it'scalled Night Flirt and I was
just doing phone stuff, dialingover the phone, just testing
myself out, and I was afraid atfirst I didn't even want to.
(44:18):
I was just like why would a guygive me money?
Like I couldn't even equatethat.
That was a sexual arousal, likegiving money gets you off.
And at first I kept trying tofind a reason.
Every sub I would talk to Iwould be like you why do you
(44:39):
send?
And then they all had kind ofthe same answer oh, it makes me
hard, or I just like the thrillof it feels like I'm gambling,
giving a stranger my money.
You know the fear of not beingin control of my own stuff that
I work so hard for, like, and Iknow it seems weird that
somebody will want that, butsome of these men are, like,
(45:01):
really really high positions andthey never get to express
submission or expressvulnerability or express
anything other than leadership.
And it's hard, like I'm this,this, this, and all they want to
do is get down on the floor andkiss your feet or something you
know.
So we let them do it, I letthem do it, sisters, and all
they want to do is get down onthe floor and kiss your feet or
something, or you know so we letthem do it.
(45:21):
I let them do it all right andit's sad too, because sometimes
you talk to the men and they aremarried or they're in a
relationship but they can'texpress what they want to be.
And then the ones who have,they said their wife or the
girlfriend not interested in it,they don't want to be the
leader in their relationship.
Like they want me to tell themI don't want to be the leader.
(45:41):
Or I've had a submissive guy.
He was in UK.
He told me like I feel like animposter, like I should have
never gotten married, like Idon't want to be the leader, I
would rather be the one takingthe directions.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Wow, wow.
So with that, I know you saidthat you know you've been.
When you first started, youwere battling like you know your
religion and everything, andyou said what religion you were
was a Hebrew, israelite, or wasit another?
So how do you go on a dailybasis now Like did you forget
(46:25):
about it, or no, no, definitelynot that I just have a better
understanding of it.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Like I truly believe that we were given free will
Like I really really do.
Like I truly believe that wewere given free will Like I
really really do.
I don't think there's anyconsequences outside of the
consequence we create forourselves on this plane.
I don't think I'm sinningagainst God.
I don't any of that.
I don't think that there's thisentity that's sitting up
(46:54):
judging us in the sense of howwe're taught in religion.
I just don't believe any ofthat anymore.
I have a differentinterpretation of scripture.
I'm really versed in scripture,like I said, being a minister's
wife, learning because backwhen I was in college and all
that kind of stuff, I hatedpeople telling me what was.
So I was like I'm going tolearn Hebrew, so I'm going to
(47:15):
read the old stuff on my own.
You know type of thing I'mgoing to interpretate.
You're telling me I can't saywhat God's name is.
Let me find out what you'd hate, what hate means, like how I'm
going to say it?
Because I'm going to say thename of God, like I'm just one
of those people, and so, as Istarted learning, I'm like you
know what we actually have thepower to create whatever, and
(47:37):
whatever consequences will comefrom our own actions.
It's not something thatquote-unquote god did.
All god gave us the ability todo is create, and any sin we
commit is against ourselves.
So I just feel like, um, thestuff in the bible is true, but
I believe that religion was justmeant to restrain and control
(48:01):
people.
So I'm out of that.
Yeah, it took a long time,though I feel like I had
religious PTSD.
I even had a clubhouse weeklytalk about it.
Yeah, religious PTSD, yeah, butthat's how I deal with it.
I just look at it different.
I still believe in God, I stillbelieve that there is a
(48:26):
governing spirit, but I justdon't believe it the same way
that I was first taught.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Okay, what is the most unusual request you ever
received?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
The most unusual for me and I've only been
pro-diamond for almost two years, it'll be two years this summer
is somebody requested to eat mydookie.
Like, literally like want toeat it.
Like there was a guy in Canada.
It like, all right, it was aguy in canada.
(49:02):
He was just like how much wouldI have to pay you for you to
let me eat your?
And I was just like I don'tknow if you could pay me enough
because I'm scared to do that.
Like what if you get a diseaseor something?
Like you're not supposed to beeating people's poop, you know
like.
But then I started researchingabout it.
There's women out there that doit.
They advertise having a cleandiet, like all type of stuff you
(49:23):
can.
They charge you more if theyeat very clean.
Um, you can choose what type ofdookie you want to be getting.
Like it's crazy.
Uh, that's one of my hardlimits.
It's called scat.
I'm not saying I would never doit, because I never want to say
what I won't do in life, but atthis moment in time that is a
(49:47):
hard limit for me.
I just don't even want to smellmy own poop, let alone imagine
somebody eating it.
It makes me feel like I'm goingto throw up.
I don't think I could do that.
I know people who do do it andI don't judge them for it, like
just you, but that's theweirdest one that I've had, okay
(50:08):
what um?
girl said she had a guy want todo a custom video of him.
Imagine her putting her toes inhis eyeballs.
But that wasn't a request fromme.
But that's one of the weirdestones I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Oh, wow.
So with all of this, I don'tthink.
I'm going to do that one.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's just weird.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
I mean, I'm learning as you speak because I've known
nothing about it.
But my question to you is withyou being just 110 pounds, like
you don't never feel like scaredor in fear for your life, like
(50:51):
nobody, like stalking you oranything like that.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
No, and people have said that this is my response to
that always is one.
This is a small world, likebdsm is a very small world and
we always ask for references.
One if a sub wants to have anin-person session, you get
references.
If they've never session inperson before, um, and I do this
(51:16):
, whether they session in personbefore or not, but I always get
their id, I always get theirlinkedin um and referrals.
But, like I said, if they'renew and they never session with
nobody, then you know you can'tget a referral.
But you do your littlebackground check, like a lot of
doms we have, like we got thelittle app you can background
check people phone number andyou can background check their
(51:37):
name.
But a lot of it is we talkamongst each other and um.
The other thing is you can havesecurity, like maybe a friend
come with you, something likethat.
Uh, if you session at aprofessional dungeon, that's
good because there's securitythere too and there's cameras.
But on the mental level, what Ilike to tell people is, honestly
(51:59):
, bdsm is so much safer thanvanilla, a bdsm guy who
identifies as submissive.
You're gonna be safer becausesexual assault, violence, all
that stuff.
What is that all about powerdynamic, power play.
They just try and take yourpower, like scientists have
already sold us, psychologistssold us rape and all that stuff
(52:21):
is about taking power.
So a submissive man has alreadydetermined who has the power
and what the power dynamic is.
So I don't really have thatfear that he gonna try to
dominate me or try to take mypower, because it's already been
established and discussed who'sin control.
(52:45):
Now, it could be they could belying.
There are men who are justfetishes, who ain't really subs,
but they have that fantasy ofbeing dominated by a powerful
woman.
But again, that's why you gottado your background checks and
stuff and um, but yeah, I guessat the end of the day, with
anything there's a risk, but Ifeel like, because of the mental
power structure that's alreadyestablished, it's less risk of
violence against me in thatsituation.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, Now, how do you plan on doing this for the rest
of your life?
Or like is this your likecareer and still have, you know,
yeah, other business?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
so what I see for myself is growing in this
dynamic.
I do want to experiment with alifestyle part of it.
Like I, there's a woman that Iwatch and I follow.
I've met two, because she iscalled the Madame Caramel.
They call her the Nubianmatriarch because she's kind of.
(53:46):
She's been around a really longtime and she throws every year
what's called the Femme DameBall in London.
I did attend last year, I maygo this year, I'm not sure, but
anyway she has a living servantand her husband is submissive
and I like to watch everything.
It's just like, like she's likethis queen, you know, and they
(54:08):
are just at her beck and calland I'm just like, could I live?
Speaker 1 (54:11):
like that, because I have a living servant.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I want to try that.
So I see myself doing that Now.
Would it be for the rest of mylife?
I don't know, but at this pointI want to have a living sub,
like a slave that is catering tomy whims and I'm actually
working on that.
I have one of my subs.
(54:35):
Yeah, I'm about to make himjoin the Marine Corps.
Actually, we're talking aboutthat.
Oh, yeah, for the next level,like I'm going to be, his checks
when he joined the military isgoing to be going into my bank
account and I will give him apreloaded debit card for his
(54:56):
weekly expenses.
But no, but the checks will bedeposited into my account.
Like that is my ultimate, likeI feel like if I can get a man
to join the military and give meall his stuff, hey, I'm like,
I'm the down.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Officer or enlisted.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
He only got his high school diploma, so he's going to
be enlisted?
Yeah, but it would be nice toget me a college graduate to go
to OCS.
Yeah, that'd be even better,but it's okay, because I'm going
to be controlling.
He's going to be going up theranks.
I'm going to be pulling thewhole puppet string the whole
time.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Alright, alright, that's wild, that is wild.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Especially with this administration going all racist.
I already talked to him.
I was like this is going tohappen.
I said if it keep up like theway it is against women and
people of color and black people, you going to be their voice, I
said, because you going to keepgoing up through the ranks?
I said, but people ain't goingto know that you actually an
ally.
He was like, yes, goddess,we'll do the plan.
Look, he's working out.
(56:02):
I'm telling you, the plan isalready going.
He started his workout regimen.
I made him quit vaping,everything, ah, yup.
And he's so happy he's like Ihave a plan now and now.
So happy he's like I have aplan now and now.
It's to the point where heworshiping me.
(56:23):
He is yeah, so I'm reallyexcited to see how that's gonna
turn out.
Like I got listen 20 years.
I'm locking down 20 years or so, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
We'll see that's crazy um for the people.
Before we get out of here, Ialways do this thing called gym
class g-e-m.
Like what is a gym that you cangive to the women or the men?
Um, out there, that's uhlooking to do some dominatrix or
(56:54):
whatever, any, any type of gymyou.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
You know what this is a gym.
Be mindful of your words.
Like, truly, truly.
Be mindful of your words.
In the scripture it say in thebeginning was the word, and the
word was with God, and the wordwas God.
That is all you really need toknow as far as to get you where
(57:19):
you want to be in your life.
Watch what you say, watch whatyou give power to, and your
words really are like um,they're like tools that build
your life out.
So be mindful of what you sendit out there.
It's going to come back to you.
Trust and believe.
That's one gem, and the otherthing is stay true to you For
(57:46):
real.
It sounds so cliche, but so manydecisions we tend to make is
based on what we think otherpeople going to think about us
or what effect it will have onother people.
You are the star of your ownshow and the people around you
are the players in your show.
They're the actors in the show,but you're the main character.
(58:10):
So focus on developing yourstory arc.
Don't worry about the otherpeople and what they think.
They don't live your life.
The reason I say that isbecause when I went to join the
Marine Corps to other people andwhat they think.
They don't live your life Right.
The reason I say that is becausewhen I went to join the Marine
Corps, everybody, everybody waslike don't do it, don't do it.
(58:32):
When I went to leave the MarineCorps, everybody said don't get
out, you shouldn't get out.
And that hit me right there.
In that moment I was like theseare the same people that told
me not to join.
I was like you know what?
From that point on, I was likeall decisions I make, I ain't
asking nobody.
I'll just do what I think Ishould do and I feel like
everybody should.
Can't nobody live your life foryou.
(58:52):
So stay true to yourself, dowhat you want to do and try your
best not to worry about whatother people are going to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
So be mindful of your word and stay true to you.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
You won't be happier.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's like, becauseeven with me, like with the
podcast, I was just like youknow what I mean Relationships
worth more than money, like it'smore than just money.
It's just you know, how did you, what relationship you build to
get to where you're at rightnow?
And that's why I likeinterviewing all different types
of people, because it'severybody out there, it's not
(59:33):
just one set person or one setjob or anything that you know
that interests people, which I'msure this will give a few
people an eye opener.
You know what I mean, because Imean you telling me this like
crazy.
So if it's this small, you knowwhat I mean you start looking
(59:53):
at what's going on in the worldright now.
Looking at what's going on inthe world right now and it's
pretty much people out therethat does dom and fem and sub
and those type of activities,but it's dope.
I mean, if you know everybody,I don't judge nobody.
(01:00:14):
I just want to know, like, diveinto, like, what you got going
on, you know, and what makes youwant to do this and the reason
why you do it.
So, as always, I appreciate youfor coming on to the pod.
I know we've been trying to setthis up for a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It's been a minute, but yeah, I've been trying to
get off social media.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
That's why a minute I've been trying to get off
social media.
That's why I don't be on therelike that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Yeah, because I hit you and you hit back every now
and then.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
You should definitely get that book Careless People.
I just ordered it.
I can't wait to read it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
But the last thing I wanted to say too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Oh, I don't remember the name of the lady, but I
posted it.
She used to work at Facebook.
She was the one that wastestifying at Congress about
them.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Oh yeah, I don't know her name, but I know who you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Carolyn, something I think it might be, but I'm not
sure.
Well, it's hyphenated last name, but in any event the name of
the book is Careless People andlast name, but in any event the
name of the book is carelesspeople.
And um, that just solidified,like just the excerpt of the
book solidify.
I gotta get off of social media.
They have 5 000 data points oneach person, on each person that
(01:01:31):
has an account, and they look.
Anyway, you'll have to see.
But the last thing I want tosay is I wrote a book and I'm
excited about it.
It's a vampire book and it'scalled Anella's Tarot Anella's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Tarot.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, I'm writing book two right now, so neither
one of them are published yet,but they will be, so I just
wanted to throw that out theretoo.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Make sure you do an audio book too, do an audio
version.
Oh, okay, yeah do an audioversion.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I will.
I can narrate it myself, right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, I can record you.
I'll have to come through.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
And you're in Maryland, right, Yep yep, Not
too far from DC.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
See, I'm going to come through and you're in
Maryland right?
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yep Not too far from DC.
See, I'm going to come through,all right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, I appreciate it like that we gone.
All right, we back First episode for April.
As everybody know, I'm Tweezy.
Who do I have to?
The left of me, right of me?
It's crazy, you ain't going tosay your name.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, I thought you said I thought you were going to
introduce me.
Yeah, I'm Goddess Delana on theother side.
Tweet tweet tweezy.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, so we met.
I don't even know, it's beenlike five years.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Probably like four years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I wanted to drop something off for you, for
Kadeem, and that's when I foundout that you were prior military
.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
How did I drop off?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The Semper Fit sweatsuit that I still be
wearing sometimes.
I really like it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, Semper Fresh.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Semper Fresh SF.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
They stay rocking some of the merch.
How did you jump into the Firstoff where you from?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Like I jumped right out the Marine Corps at Simper
Fit.
My bad, that's Marine Corps.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's Marine Corps.
It is Marine Corps.
That's the gym version.
You know what I mean.
But yeah, so where you from.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Originally I'm from Philadelphia, so not that far
from where I live now.
I'm still out by Quantico,which was my last duty station,
but yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I'm from Philly.
Okay, what was your upbringing?
Like you know, coming up fromPhilly, what part of Philly?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
North Philly.
In the beginning, like when Iwas a little girl up to seventh
grade.
Strawberry Mansion, where oh,let me turn my phone up where
Kevin Hart is from, yeah, andyou know Bill Cosby and stuff
all from Strawberry Mansion.
And then we moved out southwest59th and Baltimore and I went
to a performing arts high schoolshout out to Kappa.
(02:07):
And uh, yeah, I had a decentupbringing.
Um, originally my parents weremarried, then divorced.
Our life did change a littlebit with my mom becoming um
because she was a stay-at-homemom and then she had to start
working and things like that.
So life did change but it wasall good.
I had a really good childhood,Very artistic, very supportive,
(02:32):
very loved.
Good childhood.
I mean I grew up in the hood.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
She was cool too.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm from 27th and York, like Dolphin and all that
area, and it was all black and Ireally liked the way I grew up.
All the businesses were blackon too.
So I did grow up seeing blackexcellence, so to speak, black
entrepreneurship, and althoughwe did live like in the hood,
(03:02):
there was really family, itwasn't violent.
I didn't grow up in a violentneighborhood.
It was very familial.
We had the candy lady on theblock, we had block parties,
like.
Everybody was really close andI'm actually still close with a
lot of my friends fromelementary school.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's dope.
So you went to the performingarts school.
What was you doing?
Was you acting?
Was you playing any instruments?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I was a dance and theater arts major.
So, most of my classes weredance, but when you major in
dance they make you take vocallessons and acting.
So my school day was like twoperiods of dance and then one
period of a different art, likeit could be the theater class or
vocal lessons, but we only hadthose alternative ones like two
(03:50):
or three times a week, but Idanced every day, two periods a
day.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, what were some things that inspired you to go
to the performing arts school?
Were you always a dancer?
Were you always acting, doingtheater around the house?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
yeah, I, my mom, like she was super supportive of me
being in art and she workedreally, really hard to pay all
those high fees.
Like I did go to FreedomTheater, which I think Freedom
Theater ended up closing.
I'm not sure, but FreedomTheater was huge for a lot of
(04:30):
Philadelphians in their actingcareer, like, namely, erica
Alexander.
I think they just named thestreet after her off of Freedom
Theater, like Broad Street, offof Freedom Theater, like Broad
Street.
Oh okay, yeah, like FreedomTheater was a big foundational
(04:51):
block for my dancing career andaspirations.
I started that in elementaryschool and then but yeah, I was
always funny and my momencouraged that it was a part of
our family.
Bonding we would have liketalent shows and stuff at the
barbecues, things like that, andyeah, I guess it was just part
(05:13):
of our family being a comedian,being funny and doing
impersonations.
Off too, because you know, mymom would say when we were
really small she would take usto wherever and, um, people
would just give us free things.
She was just saying you guyswere just so cute, we would get
free meals, free whatever, andso then she had me doing
(05:36):
impersonations.
Oh well, I'll tell you how itstarted.
I was one of those um, askquestion every minutes, little
type of toddlers and I wascurious about everything and my
mom told me that some of thestuff I would ask she didn't
know the answer to.
Like she did not know.
I would ask everything, fromwhy is the sky blue to I mean
everything.
And so she said one day shejust started saying, hey, you
(05:59):
know why don't you memorize this?
She's the one that kind ofstarted me doing I would do Mae
West impersonations.
A lot of people don't know whoMae West is, but I am almost 50
years old, so Mae West was athing when I was a little girl.
So she had me start learningMae West and I would do like hey
, come up and send me some timetype of thing.
And it kind of started fromthere.
(06:22):
My mom just distracted me fromscientific questions that she
didn't know the answer to toentertain in some other type of
way, and so I think that kind ofstarted it and the attention I
got from the people I guess mademe want to do it more.
And then I wanted to be aprofessional actress and dancer
and entertainer and I was goingon auditions and stuff like that
(06:43):
.
So when I was real small, I wasacting and I had done some
small stuff like plays and likethere was a show they filmed in
Philly called Captain Kangaroothat was on their show, just
like little things, until I wasabout 10, 11.
And then I stopped professionalwork and then I just focused on
school.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, just focus on school, okay, so with all of
that acting, wanting to be likethe class clown, or acting in
front of your mom and yourfamily, how did you end up to
the Marine Corps?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, that was not planned.
No-transcript, and, but for memy recruiter was just terrible.
(07:54):
Oh, it's so sad to say that.
No, sometimes you got to keepit a buck, I do so we're going
to keep it 100.
Especially when it comes to themilitary, yeah, like dude, his
uniform would be dirty, like hesmelled like cigarettes.
He was late all the time,meeting me, even to the point
where he was late.
He took me to my ASVAB testlate and he had to, like,
(08:20):
convince the lady to let us inand take the test because he was
late.
The proctor, yeah, the testproctor.
So, long story short, we didget in, I took the test and
everything I did well.
And one day I was outside andhe was late and I was waiting
for him because the place I wasgoing to to meet him was at one
of those recruit depots.
So all the services was inthere, yeah, and I happened to
(08:42):
just be outside waiting and theMarine Corps recruiter walked up
and he was like you waiting onyour recruiter again, ain't you?
And I was like yep, and he waslike, well, listen, he's like,
if you want to be a part of amore professional establishment,
follow me.
No, he said more professionalorganization, follow me.
And that's all he said.
(09:04):
And I did Like he professionalorganization, follow me, yeah,
and that's all he said.
And I did like he walked past,opened the door and I just
pretty much about face and walkright behind him and then I was
like well, I've taken that, I'vetaken the asvab already under
the army, he said, but youhaven't dipped in, he said.
So he said I can get everythingswitched, uh, to the marine
corps.
That's how I ended up going inthe marine corps.
It wasn't that wasn't reallypurpose.
It was about how the recruiterswere and it just seemed like
(09:28):
the best one.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Dang, that's crazy.
So the appearance and how hepretty much carried himself is
the reason why you went to theMarine Corps.
Dang, my dad was a Marine too,dang, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
My dad was a Marine too, though.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So that made more sense.
But you know, like most of thetime, like when your parent is
one branch, we always try to golike a different way.
Or you know, like grandparents,like for me, my grandfather, my
uncle, was in the Army on mydad's side and then on my
grandma's side.
You know, my grandfather was inthe Air Force and the Navy.
(10:10):
So like I'm like, well, I don'twant to do one of them.
I seen them in it.
You know what I mean, but Ihaven't experienced it.
So I was like you know what,let me try something different.
You know what I mean.
And I was kind of like the samething, like what my recruiter
told me what was your MOS?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I was public affairs.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, you was PA.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, my MOS doesn't even exist anymore.
I was a combat correspondent,so it was like I was not.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That was my B billet but I was not.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That was my B-billet.
But I was a writer, writer,photographer.
So before they separated justwhat they said combat camera and
PAO, they combined those two.
But back in the day it waseither you did the journalism
and you may have, you know,taken accompanying art you know
they always gave us a camera kitand you know we wrote or you
(11:08):
were straight up like on thedigital side and they called it
a combat camera and those arethe ones that made the videos
and all that.
So no, my accent actuallystopped me.
I did audition for AFN so theyended up making it my B-billet
because of my Philly accent.
They said it was too strong.
Yeah, they said you needed amore neutral accent, but they
(11:29):
had put New.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yorker up there.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's what I said.
That's what I was, just like,whatever.
Maybe now it's different, butthis was 2004 or two and they
just said they wanted a moreneutral accent, right.
That's crazy, but they stilldid make it my B-billet, like I
said, it still was on my record,though I could do it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, because I had a homie.
I was saying, I think, an otherepisode ago that he was from
New York and he was on the AFNnetwork and I was in Iraq at 05,
and I'm like yo, that'sDeJaralimo, like what.
We was just in boot camptogether a year ago.
So you know what I mean?
That was crazy.
(12:09):
So you did journalism, yeah.
Yeah, I mean that's dope, like,if you think about it, you went
from dance theater tojournalism.
Like those three alone, youknow what I mean, are different,
are different creative.
You're just a creative allaround yeah, I think I am and
(12:32):
and then, how long did you do,uh, public affairs while you was
in?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
the whole time I did public affairs um.
I just did one.
Well, you know how it is youget four active and four
inactive.
You get your real um separation.
You're eight years later, but Ionly did four active.
I did do my inactive reservetime actively, if you would say
that, like I participated in allmy ir activities.
(12:58):
I did my um mol, like my marineonline stuff.
I took all my classes Like Idid all the stuff I was supposed
to do Because, honestly, Ithought about coming back in
Because I had got accepted toOCS.
I was going to be a publicaffairs officer Because I had my
degree already.
My degree was in broadcast andso I did dance.
(13:21):
I went to Temple University.
I did dance.
I was a diamond gem.
It's still hard to get on thatscene that Danny knows nothing
to sneeze at Greataccomplishment.
However, I didn't major indance because I would just be a
hundred.
We'd be in a buck on thispodcast.
I didn't have the confidence inmyself.
I thought that I would be astarving artist.
(13:42):
I didn't see, I didn't knowthat you could make a lot of
money dancing choreography.
I knew you could do, but atthat time I thought you need
this connection or that, like Ijust didn't have the confidence
in myself and I should havestayed with it, because some of
my friends they still doing sowell right now, like some of
them dancing for, like Cirque duSoleil or, you know, the Eagles
(14:06):
or the Sixers.
Like it was a straight pipeline, like if you majored in dance
and you did a diamond gym youwas most likely going to get on
the Eagles team or the um,you're going to get a chair
position or a dance positionsomewhere.
But at that time I couldn't seeit and I knew what I could do,
naturally, was God given talent,I could write, I could write
(14:29):
and my mom had always told me ifyou write well, you'll always
have a job.
And so just the fear kind ofled didn't major in journalism.
I didn't major in theater likeI had majored in broadcasting,
telecommunications and massmedia.
I learned everything.
(14:51):
I learned radio, I learnedvideo, I learned, you know, back
in the day we cut and splicereels, like before digital came
out.
Right, I was doing that, makingprojects, making music, like
writing things, things liketheater, like yo BTMM, I think,
is the best major out there Ifyou're not exactly sure what you
(15:12):
want to do, but you know how tocommunicate and you want to
learn that and you want to makegood money.
I took broadcast performance.
I thought I wanted to be a newsanchor, so that major when I
say helped me in the rest of mylife.
That was the one, and it helpedme with the Marine Corps because
(15:33):
I already knew how to write.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So before you joined the Marines, you went to Temple,
so we got to the 26th.
Yeah, we got to touch on that?
Yeah, yeah, we got to touch onthat because you went to a
performing arts school,graduated, went to Temple,
studied and got your degree inbroadcasting right, Is it
(15:56):
communications?
What's the whole degree?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's the whole thing BCMM, Broadcast
Telecommunications, Mass Media.
So I also learned how peoplethink and how to communicate,
how advertising works.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm telling you that's the best major ever now
it all makes sense how likeeverything is is going into.
You know, like what you do nowyou know, I mean because when I
met you, um, you were you have abusiness in body sculpting,
right.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, let's talk about it.
What's the name of the businessand what you do?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, so I am a master esthetician.
So after the Marine Corps, Iused my gi bill to go to
aesthetic school at the masteraesthetic school because, yeah,
I could have done it and got anadvanced degree in, like,
journalism or broadcast orcommunications, whatever to
build off of my bachelor's, butI wanted to learn something with
(16:58):
my hands.
And so at the time I wasstruggling with really bad skin
and I wanted to understand itmore and I'm like, well, it
would be a free education.
I'm gonna do that because, um,in between that I had worked on
cruise ships.
Like I got a really very lifeexperience.
Um, after the Marine Corps, Iworked on cruise ships, I worked
(17:18):
on carnival and then after thatI started selling cars, like,
so it's a weird littletransition there and the cars
business got really slow and soI'm like, what else can I do?
And that's when I said I'mgoing to use the GI Bill to do
something tactile, somethingthat don't depend on whatever.
(17:39):
Like, people are always goingto be concerned about their
aesthetic, what they look like,and they're going to find the
money for that.
Like, because I've seen it inmy life People, they may not
have money for whatever, butthey're going to have money for
their lashes, or they're goingto get money for their hair, or
they'll start trying to do itthemselves.
But the point I'm making I madeto myself is it's important to
people how they look, how theycome across, and so I want to
(18:02):
learn how to do this, and thatwas what made me take the
aesthetics course.
And then one thing led toanother, and I ended up opening
my own body contouring business.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So with that business , you said you're a master
esthetician because you had, youknow, things with your skin.
I don't know if you can seemine, but you know what's some
pointers you can give me,Because you know as men, you
know we.
How can I put it For me?
I can't say for everybody.
I know a lot of people's skinthat look worse, but I think I
have good skin.
(18:39):
You know greater skin, however,you say it, but how do you
maintain that, Like what's somethings I can use or or some
things I can do, or I can getfrom the store, or what you do
when you, when I come to you?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
okay, that's.
That's super easy.
You do look like you havedecent skin, especially like up
here in your forehead.
I could see um cleaning it,cleaning your body being
hydrated with water um, not likejuice and soda, just straight
up spring water and um cleaningyour skin at least once a day.
(19:16):
I know everybody say two, but Iknow sometimes people's
lifestyle, whatever it is, theycan't do two of at least wash
your face once a day.
You want to?
If you don't like to drinkwater, you can.
What I tell people eat yourwater with water.
Um fill foods like celery,cucumbers, watermelon, things
like that like foods.
(19:37):
They have a lot of water inthem.
And also, um.
A great skincare line that Ialways recommend to people
that's good for all skin typesis called Simple, simple
skincare.
It's very affordable, it'srice-based, it's hypoallergenic
and it's super easy to use.
(19:58):
So I would say you could getSimple skincare, get the
cleanser and get the moisturizerand and maybe the sunscreen and
that's about it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Where can I get that at?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Anywhere Rite Aid, cvs, anywhere that has a
skincare section you should beable to find it.
It's a UK-based brand, but it'sdistributed here, and it's been
distributed here at least 10years now.
Okay, but the vision of mycompany.
Yeah, just just go simple andthe color is white and green or
(20:32):
green.
It's just green based whitecolor packaging and my company
name is Body Thief Body ThiefBody Sculpting.
It's a little homage to AnneRice.
I love vampires, I love, butthat book isn't about a vampire,
but I love Anne Rice and sowhen I was thinking of my
business name and helping peopleshape their bodies non-invasive
(20:58):
, and stuff like that I was likewhat is that?
Like stealing fat, snatchingfat?
Oh, I'm gonna be the body thieflike.
And it just went from there.
So the business is likeburglary themed.
It's like really cool.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, that's a good play on words.
Definitely a good play on words.
How many years you been havingbody thief?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Body thief was born 2019.
Unfortunately, out of a divorce, but my second marriage didn't
work out either, unfortunately,but it brought Body Thief into
the world and I love my businessOkay.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, because when I came in there you was working on
somebody.
I forgot what I had to drop off, but it was something from
Kadeem.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
The Semper Fresh, the sweatsuit.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh it was, it was.
It was a hoodie and a pants.
Was it the crop top one?
No, oh, no, no, it was the onewith the stitching.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's really nice.
It's such good quality too.
I still wear that sweatsuit.
It's really really nice.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I had the blue one.
I didn't have the other color,but I had the blue one.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I got that black and gray.
It was from Alejandra.
I met him through her, his wife.
She was coming to me, she hadjust had some.
I was doing some post-op on her.
Boom yeah, and that meeting,and everything.
She and boom yeah, and then weend and everything and she's an
amazing Marine too.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
She used to be a drill instructor.
Yep, yep, both of them, both ofthem.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Oh, I didn't know he was a drill instructor too.
That's how they met.
See A lot of them be meetinglike that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, that's how they met.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, yeah.
So it was just like when we metwe just clicked and she was
telling me about her husband andhis business and how we could
support each other and that hedo photography too.
We talked about that because Iwas thinking about having him
shoot some stuff for me and allthat.
It was just everything.
Just.
I love my Marines.
I love my Marine Corps friends.
I didn't serve with them, butyou know how it is.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's family.
It's family, yeah, it's family.
We always, I mean granted, yougot your ones and twos, you be
like, eh, but 98% of the time,hey, we like this.
You good what you need.
You know what I mean.
So that's how it is, I love.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I miss that, I miss having, I miss living on base.
Like people love to shit onliving on base, but that was my
best time in the Marine Corpswhen I was living on base, Base
housing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I was living on base housing.
My last tour I was in Pendleton, 374, Parmesan Circle, and like
I'm telling you, I'm like, oh,this ain't bad after all.
I had a nice crib, too Nicecrib, it was super nice my
(23:55):
neighbors ain't bothering meLike it was nice.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Everybody is cool school.
Listen, I would trade that forthe world.
I used to have barbecues allthe time.
I loved being so close to work.
My son was going to school onbase.
It was just so that littlecommunity.
You ain't even hardly have toleave base if you ain't want to.
All your friends were there.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody was there.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That was the time and I was in that new base house in
Quantico they had just built,so it was like with the garage
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like my house was like.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, my house was so nice Like yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I wouldn't tradethose days for nothing in the
world.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now you got the body sculpting.
You got broadcasting mass media.
You got Marine Corps.
You said you was a car salesmanat once.
You was doing all type of stuff, right?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I used to drive a cab For real Yup Right out here in
Virginia.
I used to drive a cab just forthe summer.
I never done it before, so I'mthe type of person if I've never
done something I want to try it.
I'm going to do it, yo.
I was making like $150 a day,though, like driving a cab is
actually, you could make somebank driving a cab.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, my grandfather used to do it Yellow cab back in
Detroit.
He the first Soulja Boy can'ttake this from him, but he the
first cab driver to drive fromDetroit to California in the cab
.
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Why did he do that?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
My grandpa because he didn't care.
He always loved it.
He had a fare.
No, he didn't have a fare, hejust drove, like he drove the
cab.
He used to drive trucks toowhen he got out.
So he like drove the cab fromDetroit to California.
He used to drive it to Floridaall the time, but that's where
he from.
But he drove it to California.
I said ain't no way.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Ain't no way we about to drive y'all, me and my
homegirls, when we get to thatother part of my life which we
gonna get to, we're about todrive down to New Orleans.
I haven't done a road tripsince my 20.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What kind of vehicle y'all riding in?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
first of all, A Honda CRV, but it's a brand new one,
that's a bigger one?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Mm-hmm, yeah, I was about to say you need some type
of room.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You need some type of room 2024 or 2025.
Either way, she said it's brandnew.
It's new, yeah.
So yeah, it should be decent.
It's just going to be three ofus.
It should be good.
It's going to be good.
Yeah, I'll be straight it's 17hours, we'd be all right yeah, I
drove.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, that's about right, because I drove from
dallas to dc and I was like 18hours well, I drove from philly
to oklahoma like fort sill andthat was 22 hours, sheesh and
I'm driving.
See them driving days.
I loved them and I got thememories of me driving from Cali
(27:03):
, from Detroit, to Cali, fromCali back to DC.
Cool, I ain't doing that, nomore.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I know it just seemed like it was going to be a fun
adventure so this is what leavesme back to what we were just
talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you got all of these things and your name.
I know your name from somethingelse, but now your name is
Goddess Alana.
So let's talk about this name.
And why is it this name?
Because everybody you know.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, everybody don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Everybody don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Like I'm not scared, like I've thought about it, like
I've thought about starting awhole new social page and this
and that, and I was like I don'tcare.
Like once I told my dad aboutit.
It was a wrap.
I didn't care what nobody elsethought.
I told my mom, I told my dad, Itold my son I don't care what
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anybody else thinks.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
What your dad say.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yo, my dad, think it's the funniest thing ever.
My mom is the one.
Yeah, my mom is the one.
That's like she.
I told her what I do.
She say you do that.
I say she look like this shutup.
I just rest out laughing,that's all she said she said,
(28:40):
she said hey my dad, yo, my dad.
He is hilarious.
He was all like my baby gotslaves and they white.
He was like I love that.
He was like my baby got slavesand they white.
He was like my baby got slayed.
(29:02):
He was like anyway.
He was like yeah, I love it.
He was like what's his name?
He'd be asking me about him andstuff because I give him names.
He's like how much to do it.
So I know your listenersprobably like what's she talking
about?
So y'all, I'm a pro dominatrix.
I specialize in financialdomination, but I'm also a
sadist, so I also conduct impactplay sessions and impact means
(29:24):
exactly what that is Impact,specifically trampling.
I love trampling.
I'm very petite, I'm like 110pounds on a good day, so I can
trample, especially if theperson has a nice strong core,
strong chest or whatever.
I can even jump off ofsomething and you know, onto
them, but I like trampling.
(29:45):
I like what's called CBT, whichis cock and ball torture.
Like I like kicking them in theballs and I like flogging.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Flogging is when you're whipping somebody.
Oh, okay Was that like a man.
Yo ain't this cute.
Shout out T-Mu with the phonecases, yeah it's a little man.
And then it got a little coverfor your phone too.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh, that's crazy.
It really is a phone case.
Wow, so you said fogging,flogging.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Flogging.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Flogging.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, All right so caning is kind of good, like
with the cane, like it's abamboo cane.
I haven't had many submissiveslike into that, but I did take a
class like and I don't just doso willy-nilly, like I'm into
this like for real, like, uh, Itake classes, I have a mentor, I
(30:50):
, I have two own subs, and ownedjust means that they only
submit reports to me, they payreparations, I finance I.
My niche is Black.
New World Order, financialsupremacy, female supremacy,
female-led everything, femalenon-relation Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah.
So like I'm super new to all ofthis, like when I asked you a
while ago, I'm like what?
Like you do this, like what begoing on?
Like how do you find thesepeople?
Like it's like a whole notherworld.
You know what I'm saying, youknow?
Like for me, like I do music,it is another world, it's a
(31:35):
whole nother world.
It's like the black market.
You know what I mean.
It's a whole nother world.
It's like the black market.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Only certain people know, but you know what's really
.
What I hate about it I guessI'll start that first is the
stigma and like the fact thatVisa or PayPal or one of them
type of things would like shutmy account down if they knew I
was getting paid for BDSMsessions, because this is a part
(32:02):
of BDSM and that part I don'tlike because it's hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
These people that own these companies.
They be indulging in BDSM trustand belief, because most of my
clients are wealthy businessowners Like oh, and I also
specialize in something calledtpe, which is total power
exchange and um.
But the fact that they wouldflag your account for something
like that when all this otherstuff is legal makes no sense.
(32:32):
But that's neither here northere, so there's special
platforms that I get paidthrough.
But how do these people find me?
Just, you know regularmarketing, the way I post things
.
I say the people that's in thelifestyle, like I used to be
more overt, covert with it, butnow I'm just like it's whatever.
Yeah they know the terminologyand stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
How would you describe like the job
description of Dominatrix?
Who has never heard of itbefore?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay Ooh, who has never heard of it before?
It literally plays off of thatword.
So a dominant person, thiscould be the male or the female.
So if you want to goterminology wise, it would be
the dominant person and then thesubmissive person.
But you also have people thatgo both ways, so they call them
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switches.
I am not a switch.
I don't submit and I don't putmyself in a submissive position
either.
I think, if that makes sense,submissive positions either.
I think if that makes sense.
So I'm not the person that wouldwant to be like tied up or
deprived of any sensory things,or even like in my even before I
(33:50):
, like I've always had adominant personality, that is
true, but but I still hadconditioned, traditional
conditioning.
I still have a religion in mybackground too.
I was a Hebrew, israelite, likespeaking Hebrew, everything.
So we're taught that the womanshould be submissive to the man,
(34:17):
in the sense of just lettinghim lead the relationship,
leading everything.
Like you have your input andstuff.
Like I remember, like I used tobe married to a minister,
actually, but like the elder'swife at the temple I used to go
to, she would give like womenclasses and training and she
would just teach you like, yes,the man is the head, but we are
the neck.
We actually you know.
(34:39):
So the difference is the head,but we are the neck, we actually
you know.
So the difference is, insteadof like finessing a man, um,
because a lot of times the womenlead in the background anyway,
because we more so be seeingthrough stuff and y'all be
coming to us too, like, well,this and that, like anybody
that's been married, I would sayno, a lot of times the woman is
behind the man.
That's really giving them that,uh yeah, and the ability to go
(35:02):
out and do what they do.
I always say that's why men gotthe muscles, but we a lot of
times can see everything and allthe parts more Like.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, you rationalize , women rationalize it and kind
of see things better versus usgoing straight at things.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
A lot of times women do lead the relationship, we
just lead in the at things.
A lot of times women do leadthe relationship, we just lead
in the background and a lot oftimes it's because of the ego
that had been instilled in menfrom patriarchy.
But, realistically speaking,I'm like men usually defer to
what we think when, especiallywhen, they love and respect us,
the women in their lives, theysee our wisdom, they know we got
it and I think so.
(35:39):
When it comes to the femalebeing the dom, men have a
fantasy because of patriarchyand stuff, they want a woman to
be dominant over them and leadthem.
But I do it for money.
(36:00):
So, and in my personalrelationships before you even
ask about that, because a lot ofpeople do ask they're like well
, how are you in your personalrelationship?
Yeah, I don't prefer asubmissive man to date.
Right In the sense of I don'twant somebody.
I feel like there's a pushover.
(36:21):
Being submissive don't meanRight In the sense of I don't
want somebody I feel like is apushover.
Being submissive don't mean thatyou let somebody walk all over
you and disrespect you.
It just means that you defer tothem as the leader and, I guess
, the last voice of the decisionis going to be made.
Okay, but I like more dominantmen, but not a man that claims
to be alpha either, because Ithink that's BS, that's just
(36:43):
that.
Don't mean nothing Like I don'tknow what that is, that's just
some type of posture, machoposture, and I don't deal with
it.
I think those people areinsecure.
So, but again, to explain tosomebody that never heard of it,
just literal definition ofdominant and submissive is we
play that out literally in whatwe call scenes.
(37:05):
So these are scenes.
A lot of times there are peoplethat do this lifestyle and
that's just how they live, whichis the path I'm going on, the
path I'm going on, but right nowit's just pro-play.
I do scenes with people andthen the ones I own.
(37:26):
It's an almost dailyinteraction.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, they have daily tasks that they need to do.
I monitor everything and Icontrol their life remotely
because they don't the ownsubmissives that I have.
Don't live in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So I do everything through.
So you controlling a submissiveor a sub as you call it right,
you controlling them remotely.
That's crazy.
What that's crazy.
What do you think?
The main distinctions betweendominatrix and sex work?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
The main difference.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, what's like the dominatrix service versus a sex
worker.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm still considered a sex worker, even though I
don't have sex, like becauseit's still sexual for them, like
, and I guess for me too.
Like it is a sexual exchange onboth parts.
Like I do get turned on bybeing, by taking that much
control and that much power oversomebody, like literally just
(38:44):
tell us about hey, I'm going outwith my friends, send for
drinks and they send within 60seconds, yeah, that gets me off.
Like it's a little bit of oh,you get that little bit of those
little um vibration sensationsso it was um, there's still a
sexual thing to it, even thoughit doesn't involve their sex
(39:05):
organs, it's still sex work.
Um, the difference is I'm justnot in a submissive position and
I don't care about the physicalarousal of the man.
Like I don't care, like that'sone thing.
I say I don't care about thatflesh between your legs, right
Like.
But for them, sending me moneygets them off, giving me that
(39:29):
control gets them off.
The fear of not being incontrol is what turns them on.
The fear, like, because I dochastity too, and chastity for
the newbies or any peoplelistening don't know what that
is.
Y'all heard of a chastity whatthey used to call it back then
for women, where it was aliteral key to unlock down to
(39:51):
get to the vagina.
I make the men wear ChastityCage over their penis and I
control the key.
So, like the one I think yousaw, like last week, I named him
Asset467.
He gave me the Asset467.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You're like it's midnight yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I put him up there, you man it to.
You call him it.
You're no longer a man, You'rejust a cell phone Ask him 467?
.
You're my plaything, wow.
So yeah, I said 467.
He had a lockbox but he sent methe app and I changed the
master password so he has thephysical key.
(40:35):
But I made him put the key intothat strong box and I changed
the password so he couldn't getinto it and I made him sleep
with the box on the pillow nextto him.
Just the first.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
And the fear and the understanding that you don't
control it.
I do.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
So how did you get started in this career path?
Because you know what I'msaying.
Like you weren't, like I said,acting theater, dance, dance,
tempo what was the name of thedance group you was a part of?
In tempo, freedom theaterBroadcasting.
(41:21):
Like how did you just jumpMarine Corps, then Body Thief
and then let's go this way, likehow did that happen?
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Like I ain't even going to lie Money at first.
First it was just money.
First it literally was one ofmy friends, maureen.
She is what's called a sensualtop and she does sensory stuff.
So she's a dom, but she usessensuality topping her clients.
(41:56):
I use humiliation anddegradation.
You know, for my clients wehave two different type of
clients.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
But she was the one who told me you should be a dom,
like professionally.
And I'm just like, because Istill have that religious
upbringing.
So I'm like, no, I'm not doingnothing like that.
I'm still fighting against mynatural nature of dominance,
trying to make to bring that alldown so I could be a good girl,
a good woman, so I could beputting the inside of God out
(42:28):
how I thought it used to be.
And so for a few years her andthis other guy went to the
Marine Corps with, actually, aboyfriend of mine.
He's a top and I'm just likethe Marines be diamond, like
what is going on, you know.
And they said you should lookup Mistress Marley.
And Mistress Marley is afinancial dominatrix, but she's
(42:51):
like a famous one.
She'd been all over theinternet, news, everything.
And I was like maybe I shouldtry this.
And once I looked up mistressmarley's stuff and I saw that
you could just get money justfor being a powerful woman.
A man would just give you moneyjust because you're he thinks
you're above him.
I was just like, right, let metry this because I had been a
(43:14):
sugar baby before by accident.
But it happened Like I've beenmen giving me money and stuff
for nothing in return Been likefor a long time.
But I didn't know that was atype of man.
I didn't even know that was afinancial submissive.
So I've had financialsubmissives in my past.
I just didn't know that's whatthey were because I didn't feel
(43:35):
like I was the one making themdo it.
They wanted to do it so yeah.
So it was a long like.
It was like bits and piecesthrough the years and then
finally I was like I needed somefast cash and I said let me try
this financial dominatrix thing.
And I signed up for MistressMarley's Patreon on the $5 level
and then I said let me just dothe $20.
(43:57):
And it just opened up all thevideos and stuff and I started
watching and I was like I coulddo this and I just started small
One, you know set up my Twitter.
Then I set up a night it'scalled Night Flirt and I was
just doing phone stuff, dialingover the phone, just testing
myself out, and I was afraid atfirst I didn't even want to.
(44:18):
I was just like why would a guygive me money?
Like I couldn't even equatethat.
That was a sexual arousal, likegiving money gets you off.
And at first I kept trying tofind a reason.
Every sub I would talk to Iwould be like you why do you
(44:39):
send?
And then they all had kind ofthe same answer oh, it makes me
hard, or I just like the thrillof it feels like I'm gambling,
giving a stranger my money.
You know the fear of not beingin control of my own stuff that
I work so hard for, like, and Iknow it seems weird that
somebody will want that, butsome of these men are, like,
(45:01):
really really high positions andthey never get to express
submission or expressvulnerability or express
anything other than leadership.
And it's hard, like I'm this,this, this, and all they want to
do is get down on the floor andkiss your feet or something you
know.
So we let them do it, I letthem do it, sisters, and all
they want to do is get down onthe floor and kiss your feet or
something, or you know so we letthem do it.
(45:21):
I let them do it all right andit's sad too, because sometimes
you talk to the men and they aremarried or they're in a
relationship but they can'texpress what they want to be.
And then the ones who have,they said their wife or the
girlfriend not interested in it,they don't want to be the
leader in their relationship.
Like they want me to tell themI don't want to be the leader.
(45:41):
Or I've had a submissive guy.
He was in UK.
He told me like I feel like animposter, like I should have
never gotten married, like Idon't want to be the leader, I
would rather be the one takingthe directions.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Wow, wow.
So with that, I know you saidthat you know you've been.
When you first started, youwere battling like you know your
religion and everything, andyou said what religion you were
was a Hebrew, israelite, or wasit another?
So how do you go on a dailybasis now Like did you forget
(46:25):
about it, or no, no, definitelynot that I just have a better
understanding of it.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Like I truly believe that we were given free will
Like I really really do.
Like I truly believe that wewere given free will Like I
really really do.
I don't think there's anyconsequences outside of the
consequence we create forourselves on this plane.
I don't think I'm sinningagainst God.
I don't any of that.
I don't think that there's thisentity that's sitting up
(46:54):
judging us in the sense of howwe're taught in religion.
I just don't believe any ofthat anymore.
I have a differentinterpretation of scripture.
I'm really versed in scripture,like I said, being a minister's
wife, learning because backwhen I was in college and all
that kind of stuff, I hatedpeople telling me what was.
So I was like I'm going tolearn Hebrew, so I'm going to
(47:15):
read the old stuff on my own.
You know type of thing I'mgoing to interpretate.
You're telling me I can't saywhat God's name is.
Let me find out what you'd hate, what hate means, like how I'm
going to say it?
Because I'm going to say thename of God, like I'm just one
of those people, and so, as Istarted learning, I'm like you
know what we actually have thepower to create whatever, and
(47:37):
whatever consequences will comefrom our own actions.
It's not something thatquote-unquote god did.
All god gave us the ability todo is create, and any sin we
commit is against ourselves.
So I just feel like, um, thestuff in the bible is true, but
I believe that religion was justmeant to restrain and control
(48:01):
people.
So I'm out of that.
Yeah, it took a long time,though I feel like I had
religious PTSD.
I even had a clubhouse weeklytalk about it.
Yeah, religious PTSD, yeah, butthat's how I deal with it.
I just look at it different.
I still believe in God, I stillbelieve that there is a
(48:26):
governing spirit, but I justdon't believe it the same way
that I was first taught.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Okay, what is the most unusual request you ever
received?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
The most unusual for me and I've only been
pro-diamond for almost two years, it'll be two years this summer
is somebody requested to eat mydookie.
Like, literally like want toeat it.
Like there was a guy in Canada.
It like, all right, it was aguy in canada.
(49:02):
He was just like how much wouldI have to pay you for you to
let me eat your?
And I was just like I don'tknow if you could pay me enough
because I'm scared to do that.
Like what if you get a diseaseor something?
Like you're not supposed to beeating people's poop, you know
like.
But then I started researchingabout it.
There's women out there that doit.
They advertise having a cleandiet, like all type of stuff you
(49:23):
can.
They charge you more if theyeat very clean.
Um, you can choose what type ofdookie you want to be getting.
Like it's crazy.
Uh, that's one of my hardlimits.
It's called scat.
I'm not saying I would never doit, because I never want to say
what I won't do in life, but atthis moment in time that is a
(49:47):
hard limit for me.
I just don't even want to smellmy own poop, let alone imagine
somebody eating it.
It makes me feel like I'm goingto throw up.
I don't think I could do that.
I know people who do do it andI don't judge them for it, like
just you, but that's theweirdest one that I've had, okay
(50:08):
what um?
girl said she had a guy want todo a custom video of him.
Imagine her putting her toes inhis eyeballs.
But that wasn't a request fromme.
But that's one of the weirdestones I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Oh, wow.
So with all of this, I don'tthink.
I'm going to do that one.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's just weird.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
I mean, I'm learning as you speak because I've known
nothing about it.
But my question to you is withyou being just 110 pounds, like
you don't never feel like scaredor in fear for your life, like
(50:51):
nobody, like stalking you oranything like that.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
No, and people have said that this is my response to
that always is one.
This is a small world, likebdsm is a very small world and
we always ask for references.
One if a sub wants to have anin-person session, you get
references.
If they've never session inperson before, um, and I do this
(51:16):
, whether they session in personbefore or not, but I always get
their id, I always get theirlinkedin um and referrals.
But, like I said, if they'renew and they never session with
nobody, then you know you can'tget a referral.
But you do your littlebackground check, like a lot of
doms we have, like we got thelittle app you can background
check people phone number andyou can background check their
(51:37):
name.
But a lot of it is we talkamongst each other and um.
The other thing is you can havesecurity, like maybe a friend
come with you, something likethat.
Uh, if you session at aprofessional dungeon, that's
good because there's securitythere too and there's cameras.
But on the mental level, what Ilike to tell people is, honestly
(51:59):
, bdsm is so much safer thanvanilla, a bdsm guy who
identifies as submissive.
You're gonna be safer becausesexual assault, violence, all
that stuff.
What is that all about powerdynamic, power play.
They just try and take yourpower, like scientists have
already sold us, psychologistssold us rape and all that stuff
(52:21):
is about taking power.
So a submissive man has alreadydetermined who has the power
and what the power dynamic is.
So I don't really have thatfear that he gonna try to
dominate me or try to take mypower, because it's already been
established and discussed who'sin control.
(52:45):
Now, it could be they could belying.
There are men who are justfetishes, who ain't really subs,
but they have that fantasy ofbeing dominated by a powerful
woman.
But again, that's why you gottado your background checks and
stuff and um, but yeah, I guessat the end of the day, with
anything there's a risk, but Ifeel like, because of the mental
power structure that's alreadyestablished, it's less risk of
violence against me in thatsituation.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, Now, how do you plan on doing this for the rest
of your life?
Or like is this your likecareer and still have, you know,
yeah, other business?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
so what I see for myself is growing in this
dynamic.
I do want to experiment with alifestyle part of it.
Like I, there's a woman that Iwatch and I follow.
I've met two, because she iscalled the Madame Caramel.
They call her the Nubianmatriarch because she's kind of.
(53:46):
She's been around a really longtime and she throws every year
what's called the Femme DameBall in London.
I did attend last year, I maygo this year, I'm not sure, but
anyway she has a living servantand her husband is submissive
and I like to watch everything.
It's just like, like she's likethis queen, you know, and they
(54:08):
are just at her beck and calland I'm just like, could I live?
Speaker 1 (54:11):
like that, because I have a living servant.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I want to try that.
So I see myself doing that Now.
Would it be for the rest of mylife?
I don't know, but at this pointI want to have a living sub,
like a slave that is catering tomy whims and I'm actually
working on that.
I have one of my subs.
(54:35):
Yeah, I'm about to make himjoin the Marine Corps.
Actually, we're talking aboutthat.
Oh, yeah, for the next level,like I'm going to be, his checks
when he joined the military isgoing to be going into my bank
account and I will give him apreloaded debit card for his
(54:56):
weekly expenses.
But no, but the checks will bedeposited into my account.
Like that is my ultimate, likeI feel like if I can get a man
to join the military and give meall his stuff, hey, I'm like,
I'm the down.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Officer or enlisted.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
He only got his high school diploma, so he's going to
be enlisted?
Yeah, but it would be nice toget me a college graduate to go
to OCS.
Yeah, that'd be even better,but it's okay, because I'm going
to be controlling.
He's going to be going up theranks.
I'm going to be pulling thewhole puppet string the whole
time.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Alright, alright, that's wild, that is wild.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Especially with this administration going all racist.
I already talked to him.
I was like this is going tohappen.
I said if it keep up like theway it is against women and
people of color and black people, you going to be their voice, I
said, because you going to keepgoing up through the ranks?
I said, but people ain't goingto know that you actually an
ally.
He was like, yes, goddess,we'll do the plan.
Look, he's working out.
(56:02):
I'm telling you, the plan isalready going.
He started his workout regimen.
I made him quit vaping,everything, ah, yup.
And he's so happy he's like Ihave a plan now and now.
So happy he's like I have aplan now and now.
It's to the point where heworshiping me.
(56:23):
He is yeah, so I'm reallyexcited to see how that's gonna
turn out.
Like I got listen 20 years.
I'm locking down 20 years or so, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
We'll see that's crazy um for the people.
Before we get out of here, Ialways do this thing called gym
class g-e-m.
Like what is a gym that you cangive to the women or the men?
Um, out there, that's uhlooking to do some dominatrix or
(56:54):
whatever, any, any type of gymyou.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
You know what this is a gym.
Be mindful of your words.
Like, truly, truly.
Be mindful of your words.
In the scripture it say in thebeginning was the word, and the
word was with God, and the wordwas God.
That is all you really need toknow as far as to get you where
(57:19):
you want to be in your life.
Watch what you say, watch whatyou give power to, and your
words really are like um,they're like tools that build
your life out.
So be mindful of what you sendit out there.
It's going to come back to you.
Trust and believe.
That's one gem, and the otherthing is stay true to you For
(57:46):
real.
It sounds so cliche, but so manydecisions we tend to make is
based on what we think otherpeople going to think about us
or what effect it will have onother people.
You are the star of your ownshow and the people around you
are the players in your show.
They're the actors in the show,but you're the main character.
(58:10):
So focus on developing yourstory arc.
Don't worry about the otherpeople and what they think.
They don't live your life.
The reason I say that isbecause when I went to join the
Marine Corps to other people andwhat they think.
They don't live your life Right.
The reason I say that is becausewhen I went to join the Marine
Corps, everybody, everybody waslike don't do it, don't do it.
(58:32):
When I went to leave the MarineCorps, everybody said don't get
out, you shouldn't get out.
And that hit me right there.
In that moment I was like theseare the same people that told
me not to join.
I was like you know what?
From that point on, I was likeall decisions I make, I ain't
asking nobody.
I'll just do what I think Ishould do and I feel like
everybody should.
Can't nobody live your life foryou.
(58:52):
So stay true to yourself, dowhat you want to do and try your
best not to worry about whatother people are going to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
So be mindful of your word and stay true to you.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
You won't be happier.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's like, becauseeven with me, like with the
podcast, I was just like youknow what I mean Relationships
worth more than money, like it'smore than just money.
It's just you know, how did you, what relationship you build to
get to where you're at rightnow?
And that's why I likeinterviewing all different types
of people, because it'severybody out there, it's not
(59:33):
just one set person or one setjob or anything that you know
that interests people, which I'msure this will give a few
people an eye opener.
You know what I mean, because Imean you telling me this like
crazy.
So if it's this small, you knowwhat I mean you start looking
(59:53):
at what's going on in the worldright now.
Looking at what's going on inthe world right now and it's
pretty much people out therethat does dom and fem and sub
and those type of activities,but it's dope.
I mean, if you know everybody,I don't judge nobody.
(01:00:14):
I just want to know, like, diveinto, like, what you got going
on, you know, and what makes youwant to do this and the reason
why you do it.
So, as always, I appreciate youfor coming on to the pod.
I know we've been trying to setthis up for a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It's been a minute, but yeah, I've been trying to
get off social media.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
That's why a minute I've been trying to get off
social media.
That's why I don't be on therelike that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Yeah, because I hit you and you hit back every now
and then.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
You should definitely get that book Careless People.
I just ordered it.
I can't wait to read it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
But the last thing I wanted to say too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Oh, I don't remember the name of the lady, but I
posted it.
She used to work at Facebook.
She was the one that wastestifying at Congress about
them.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Oh yeah, I don't know her name, but I know who you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Carolyn, something I think it might be, but I'm not
sure.
Well, it's hyphenated last name, but in any event the name of
the book is Careless People andlast name, but in any event the
name of the book is carelesspeople.
And um, that just solidified,like just the excerpt of the
book solidify.
I gotta get off of social media.
They have 5 000 data points oneach person, on each person that
(01:01:31):
has an account, and they look.
Anyway, you'll have to see.
But the last thing I want tosay is I wrote a book and I'm
excited about it.
It's a vampire book and it'scalled Anella's Tarot Anella's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Tarot.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, I'm writing book two right now, so neither
one of them are published yet,but they will be, so I just
wanted to throw that out theretoo.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Make sure you do an audio book too, do an audio
version.
Oh, okay, yeah do an audioversion.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I will.
I can narrate it myself, right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, I can record you.
I'll have to come through.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
And you're in Maryland, right, Yep yep, Not
too far from DC.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
See, I'm going to come through and you're in
Maryland right?
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yep Not too far from DC.
See, I'm going to come through,all right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, I appreciate it like that we gone.
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