May 24, 2024 • 38 mins
Become a Relative & send some love
Ever wondered how a kid from Northeast DC could skyrocket to the ranks of music and engineering whizzes, armed only with a GED and a dream? That's precisely the odyssey Young Chris the Artist unfolds for us, sharing tales that weave through melodies from Eminem and Biggie Smalls to the science of a solid network and the alchemy of authentic fan engagement. His narrative is a powerful reminder that college degrees aren't the sole path to success, and a stable family background can defy the typical struggle-stories we so often hear in the music biz. It's about positivity, perseverance, and the right circle of confidants that can elevate an artist from the local stage to the limelight.
Strap in as we navigate the realms of grassroots music promotion and social media smarts. Chris and I dissect the adrenaline rush of spotting a potential hit and the chess-like strategy of pushing it to the forefront. Delve into the intricacies of marketing investments, the art of selecting the perfect audience for your ads, and why genuine connections beat out paid plays any day. This episode isn't just about making music—it's an insider's guide to fostering collaborations and tirelessly championing your sounds in an industry where your network can be your net worth.
As we turn the page to the broader landscape of today's music industry, we celebrate the unsung heroes and local legends from the DMV area, like Chicago Santana. Acknowledging the international influence of hip-hop and the innovative intersection with technology like AI in production, our discussion crystallizes the importance of understanding the business behind the beats. Here's to those hungry for the cultural significance of music, the understanding of industry intricacies, and the unending quest for personal and professional evolution. With guests like Young Chris the Artist, we're not just enjoying the rhythm; we're learning the dance.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Wow, yeah, yes, sir, we back Relationships Worth More
Than Money.
Podcast.
I'm Tweezy, who I got acrossfrom Young Chris the Artist man.
Young Chris the Artist bro.
It's been a long time coming,long time coming.
I remember when I first startedit you was like, bro, I need to
get on there, I need to get onthere, I need to get on there.
And now look where we at hey wehere.
(00:26):
We here, man, but for all therelatives out there you know,
tell the people who you are,where you from and how this
whole thing got started with you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey, man, say man so, from Northeast DC, been doing
music for like over like alittle 10 years now.
Man Just being in the studiowith my uncle, troy Williams,
and, like he done, produced fora lot of greats Biggie Smalls,
heavy D, tony Brass and TreySongz, just to name a few and
just being there watching him.
He was an engineer just beingthere sitting in the studio,
(00:58):
like what this do, what that do,what this volume button do, or
let me touch this, let me let medo that Pause.
But yeah, just being therewatching him, man, and then
being around other engineers andbeing around other artists, and
just I just grew a love into it, a liking to it, and it's
something I'm doing every daynow.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, All right, you said.
You said you've been.
What artist inspired you tostick with the music?
Because not only do you rap,but you actually do engineer
stuff too.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm saying Shit Listening to Eminem and Biggie
Smalls, honestly, just watchingold YouTube videos that come up
and what it took to get here.
So I'm kind of taking thosesame steps.
You know, booking shows,booking my own shows, doing
videos.
You know, like you say, it's amath to it, it's a strategy.
You got to move right.
(01:54):
You got to have the rightpeople around you Right, just
being in that right head spaceyou.
You can't have them negativepeople around you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, that's a fact, man.
Shit man, I met you.
What three, Was it two?
Three years ago, it might havebeen longer than that, it might
have been like 2018.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, at the Stu, at the.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Stu and Burke.
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
It's like a lot of people thatI've met out there.
You know what I mean I'm stillgood relationships with.
Walk me down the childhood era,though.
Like how was you during yourchildhood?
Like, what was your thing Like?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
what was your hobbies During my childhood?
I wasn't.
I've been doing music since Iwas nine, so anything before
that.
I was like a regular kid justoutside with the homies outside,
cool and chilling, going toschool, doing what a kid do Just
playing around.
I never really had no hardshipsor nothing like that.
Some people be like, oh, my dador my mom was this or nah, I
(02:54):
had both parents, so I wouldnever get up here and fake and
be like man, my life was hard, Ihad to get it out.
Nah, it wasn't none of that.
Like you know, I still had tomake my own money certain ways
and things like that, but it wasnever like no hardships or
nothing like that.
What high school you went to?
I went to like five differenthigh schools, really.
Yeah, give me one of them Shit.
(03:15):
I went to Spangon.
I went to Eastern HD Wilson.
Man, you went around the wholedang old city.
Yeah, man, it came to a pointwhere I didn't start to like.
I didn't like school.
School ain't for everybody.
So I already knew I didn't wantto go to college.
Right, I knew that nigga.
I just went through 12 years ofhigh school, right, ended up
getting my GED.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm like nigga, I don't want to go to college.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Right, but college ain't for everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Nah, it's, it's, uh, what I learned, man, going to
college after I got out of theMarines.
Um, it's like a systematicthing, like you don't need
college, right.
But I will say the, the, thenetworking.
If you're networking in college, that's the key Right.
(04:04):
Networking, if you'renetworking in college, that's
the key right.
You know, I mean becauseanybody can be book smart.
But actually getting throughand networking with those people
that know this person, knowthis person and know the area
that you're in, I think that'sthe most important part of
college is meeting the people.
That's in the classroom, youknow, I mean.
But, um, all right, we wentthrough the cop, we went through
(04:24):
the high school.
You didn't want to do school,you wanted to go, you know, go
smack in with the music.
You said Eminem and Big.
Yeah, you know what's crazy man, a lot of people don't ever put
Eminem in their drink.
I do, I mean, but that's just,that's because I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But like I really do.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I really do Rock with Eminem and they be like man,
why nobody be riding around Likeput that M on, like, so MA4,
like riding around, like youknow what I mean.
But he got.
He got worldwide smashes.
Exactly, you're worrying aboutlocal.
Exactly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They worried about what they hear on 8 Mile Right.
All the Mom's spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's so much more to it If you actually sit and run
through his catalog and sitthere, bruh, it's something you
be like.
Damn this, m.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, m can talk like this.
Yeah, don't let him be Onsomebody's track, because he's
going to really talk crazy, he'sreally going to talk crazy.
You got Eminem big.
What other artists kind of likeinspired you till now?
Because you know how I alwaystell people I don't got a top
(05:38):
five because it's too many, toomany that I love.
You know what I mean, like asfar as producers, artists, all
of that.
So it's like I don't have likea favorite one person.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, eminem was like the top two, like industry-wise
.
But I listen to like a lot ofunderground like Hopson, joyner,
lucas, a dude Jizzy6 from outof New York Just a lot of yeah,
crazy cool.
A lot of underground people, man, that haven't touched that
mainstream platform, because tome them some of the best artists
(06:10):
.
Yeah, you got artists out herethat's way better than Drake,
way better than the industryartists that we hear today.
But you know everybody don'twant that industry shine.
Hold on, bro.
You said better than Drake man.
You got artists better thanDrake man.
You just you gotta search, yougotta look for them.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You gotta be Better than Drake, as in lyrics, or
better than Drake, as in.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Lyrics just artistry all around you have them artists
, I don't know, man, man, I'mtelling you I don't know about
that, bro, you gotta search.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't know, but I'm the one that do it.
Like I literally go out andlook for new artists.
That's dope.
And I tell people, like I wasjust talking to Ro, like I'm
like, bro, do you know that dudeShaboosie, Like he fired, Like
I didn't know he was from here,out of VA, and um, Shabuzy from
(07:02):
VA, the black dude With thecountry song, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
From when I was three .
He from out of Woodbridge.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, I know that other dude, that Brent Fires,
signed that Million Dollar Babysong.
He from Woodbridge too.
He is, yeah, brent Fires, no,brent Fires from Maryland, right
, but the guy he just signed, Iforgot, forgot, I don't know his
name, but he got that song.
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let me write it for you Billion Dollar Baby.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Let me look it up, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He from out of Woodbridge Cause.
It's him, and like two otherartists that just hit Billboard
Tommy Richmond, tommy Richmond Iain't never Been the same thing
.
That joint.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I'm gonna have to type that, yeah, I'm saying but
when I heard it and then when Ifound out Brent Fires signed him
, I said it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Brent got that bag too.
He didn't just eat A coupleyears ago.
What did he sign for what?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Some meals, crazy.
But the thing is people don'tknow he was in Sonder first,
that group.
It was called Sonder.
Before he became Brent BrentFires by himself a solo artist,
he was with a group.
Okay, so you go back and listento Sondra, that's fire, just
like how you were saying, likethat's what I say.
I go back and listen to otherartists, man, but it's like it's
so many.
But once it catches the radar,I do go back and like now that
(08:16):
you said Shabuzy from here,because I'm like I was just
telling him, like, bro, thatTipsy is fire.
But then I also seen him onYonsei joint and I'm like, oh,
you got traction, you got motion.
You know what I mean.
And that's the thing, man, what?
Last time I seen you, you wasdown South by Southwest.
(08:37):
Right, you was going on yourway.
I remember you was likeEverybody go to South by
Southwest.
How is it that you can Maneuverlike that, bro?
Like you moving and you movingsolo.
You ain't moving with a bunchof people, you moving.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It came to a point where, like, I was making so
much music and it was justsitting on my hard drive and I'm
like, all right, what am Idoing?
Like, what do I need to do?
Because something's not right.
I don't want to just keepmaking music and making music
and not doing nothing with it.
So I'm like, all right, I knowa couple people, I need to start
traveling.
This is what's going on.
So you know, I still work, bro.
(09:14):
So it's like, like I just toldyou, I'm working 16 hour shifts
here and there and I don't needa group of people to go with me.
I might bring one or two people, but if they can't go, it is
what it is.
I'm going by myself.
Let's go, we about to rock out.
So, just having a couple littleconnections here and there, I'm
like, oh, what's going on?
Like this popping off, thisconcert going on.
(09:34):
I'm on the way, get me onsomehow, some way.
And, like you said, bro,working still.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's okay to work, Bruh.
I'm telling you it's okay towork 16 hours, whatever you got
to do to get to your dream andyour goal or what you want to do
.
I think the youngest out there,bruh, definitely need to hear
this, because it's like theythink they just going to do
music.
I mean, if you got it like that, will your parents hold you
down, but it's only going to bea matter of time where your
parents are going to be like heylook, bro, this, I've known
(10:08):
this for a minute.
I ain't seen no motion, man,what we doing you know what I
mean.
Because I think, as a parentmyself, I'm going to push my
kids to be great.
But if this is something thatthey love to do and they want to
do, all alright, let me.
Let me try to help you, but ifit ain't going nowhere, we need
to have some other plans.
You know what I mean, causeeverybody can't just do plan A
and stick to plan A you gottahave.
(10:29):
B and a C.
You know what I mean.
Just in case, because thembackups can be the forefront of
the plan A.
They can put you to plan A, youknow what I'm saying.
I think the youngest definitelyneeded to hear that.
Man, because we as a community,it's always something.
You know what I mean.
It's always something.
(10:49):
It's either somebody hating onus, somebody mad at us for some
reason, we don't know why,somebody beefing with us for
nothing, and we don't have theresources that other ethnicities
have.
Absolutely, I think too.
Man, just go out there and work, grind hard and get your
chicken.
Man, get your chicken.
(11:10):
This song that you worked on,man, road Running, road Running.
How long ago did you do that?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That was maybe like last year in June 2023.
It was it's crazy because itwas one of my least favorite
songs.
I was pushing some whole othershit.
That was one of my leastfavorite songs.
But being down south bySouthwest, I seen a nigga out
there, my nigga, C4.
Shout out to C4.
Hammer dude, Real cool dude.
It was like 10.30 in themorning.
I'm walking around downtownsouth by Southwest or whatever,
(11:40):
and I seen him out there withthe mic drop.
I said, well, you know how muchfor the mic drop.
He was like $25.
$25, what $25,000?
He's like no, $25, bro.
I said, all right, bet.
So he was like what song yougonna do?
So I'm like let me doRoadrunner Something different.
Like no, this shit.
(12:01):
One of the ones.
He was like I'm going to havethis shit cooked up in like a
week.
So we dropped it.
I started promoting it, postingit, doing the Instagram ads.
All that shit Started gettingthat traction.
It started moving.
So I'm like, damn, one of theleast favorite songs Like this
shit, all right, this shit doingall right.
So, boom, I started doing that,getting the traction forward,
(12:21):
getting all these new followers.
Just linking up with otherartists, Went down, found a
thing on Instagram calledWeFamATL.
That's the shit I've beenposting for like the past two
weeks.
Now Found them, flew out ofAtlanta, Went by myself, flew
out of Atlanta, did that, cameback, started gaining attraction
from that, gaining more artistsfrom that.
I'm like, damn, they're likethis shit.
I just got to keep pushing.
I got to come up with a greatmarketing plan for it, Because I
(12:44):
see it, I see it.
You know, sometimes everyone'slike don't look for the hit, the
hit going to come.
I feel like this is that one.
Like I see it, bro, I truly dosee it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So with that, bro, I got two things about that.
Was that the song that you wastrying to record?
Remember when your joint keptcrashing and you was trying to?
You was trying to record,remember when your your joint
kept crashing and you was tryingto figure out why I wasn't
playing audio.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, that was one, that was one of the ones that
whole day I was trying to recordcause.
I was finishing up the rest ofmy album and that was one of the
joints I was trying to record.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm like man, this Pro Tools shit is like really
pissing me off you know I callthing Any anything Right and I
pick up Every time.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Every time and I appreciate you for that, bro,
you help me out a lot I be likeTweez, what's this?
You be like do this, do that?
You be like alright, that shitwork every time.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.
So look the second thing.
Um, you talked about ads, bro.
Ads, what are you doing in yourads?
Because I swear man, thesepeople, they got to hear this
because we are independent.
You know what I mean.
So it's like, what are youdoing to get yourself ahead of
the curve, to get yourself infront of the people, to get
(13:54):
traction, like what you do.
How do you do your ads?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
For one.
It's all about you got to, likethey say, you got to spend
money to make money.
It's all about getting thatexposure For my ads.
You know, I just set it up onInstagram, just, you know, I
might set it up for like fivedays.
I might put like $20, $25 downon it for five days.
That's when the traction startcoming in.
You get more plays, the reelsstart going up, you get more
(14:18):
followers.
All that shit start happeningand it's like you see a results.
You see real results behind it.
Other than you got artists whobe paying for like plays and
shit like that.
Now, with the ads, you stillpaying for plays and shit, but
these is authentic.
You know that shit goeverywhere.
Right, you just be scrollingthrough the stories and that
(14:38):
shit just pop up.
People click it, you on.
That's how that shit work.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, now you say you only pay Twenty, twenty five,
so that's what Like five dollarsa day.
Yeah, then once you get thetraction, do you put more into
it?
Mmhmm, and then.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So I might, I might let it go For the five days, let
it run all the way out, andthen I might Jump into like
Fifteen days.
But I'ma do like Ten dollars aday, something like that, for
fifteen days and I just keep itgoing bro.
Like I said, I see it bro.
So then 10 for 150.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
mean 15 days.
You just keep going, bro, likeI'm about to reset it again
today.
Like it ran out what's todayWednesday, it ran out Sunday,
yeah, so I'm about to put likeanother 50 in it right today.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
How long do you normally campaign the campaign,
the ads?
How long do you do it for foreach one?
The longest I did is like 10days.
10 days, yeah, and then withthat it's giving you traction.
And do you set a certain targetmarket or do you set like your?
You set like the area, do youpush DC or do you go further?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Nah.
So when I set it up, it'd belike create your own audience.
I like pick like certain citiesmaybe like Texas, la, oklahoma,
shit like that, certain placeswhere I know it's a big music
market, right.
Or I might just let Instagrampick the targeted audience.
For me that's been working too,but sometimes when you try to
customize it, it don't work.
It don't do as much, yeah, itdon't do as much.
I was about to say that itdon't work.
(16:06):
It don't do as much, yeah, itdon't do as much.
So sometimes the automatic beall right.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, because I think for us or for me, I might put
too many cities.
When you put too many cities,it might only hit two out of the
ten cities you put.
So yeah, that Instagramsuggested probably definitely
work.
What else you got coming man?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Shit.
I'm working towards like tryingto get on stage for A3C.
I met a guy at my job, superplugged in with Universal.
He got a homeboy that do likePR work for Universal.
He's well connected with A3C sowe're trying to get in good
with that.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They shooting in October.
They shooting it in October,they doing it in October.
Yeah, is it at the conventioncenter or is it at the?
What's the name of that spot?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The gathering spot that I'm not sure.
And then it's another.
It's like another musicfestival coming up in September
in Texas.
I forgot the name of it, butname of it.
But yeah, bro, just trying towork.
(17:16):
I'm pushing this single rightnow Like if it take me a year to
push this single.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's just what it is Just trying to get more known
, bro, trying to get thisexposure going.
It's another festival man Roadshooting festival out here,
parkfest, july 13th.
Pull up on network.
I'm there, july 13th, pull up.
Pull up on network.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm there.
I'm there for sure, for sure,because, matter of fact, I'm
going to Richmond on, like June1st or June 2nd, it's a festival
going on out there.
Yeah, I'm shooting, I'm doingthat.
I'm going to do another micdrop out there For them people
that's sleeping on these micdrops, the mic drops, the mic
drops help.
Yeah, the mic drops you help,whether you doing the same song
or not.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, and it don't matter what platform it is,
because I think a lot of peoplestart hating because it's like
oh, I was the first, yeah, youthe first, you the first doing
it.
You might have the most moneyto back it, but at putting other
artists on, you know what I'msaying?
That's a jam right there calledCharged Up Fest.
Okay, may 30th or June 2nd, youheard about that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's right, god.
I think it's something they dolike every year.
Yeah, I'm talking to the peoplethat's doing the mic drop out
there, because usually they onlydo their mic drops in Atlanta
and like Pennsylvania, but theygoing to be there.
So he told me, dude just toldme, pull up, let's do the mic
drop, because he got a dude onthere that's going crazy right
now.
He did the mic drop last yearand that joint picking up
(18:35):
traction now.
So I don't know what it is whatkicked off for that nigga, but
that shit working for bro.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But you know the thing too, dog, like you doing
festivals, not only are youdoing festivals, you're putting
yourself out there Like artists.
You have to put yourself outthere, you have to go to these
festivals.
You gotta build connections,build relationships, because
those relationships can get youinto the door.
(19:02):
You know what I'm saying.
And with that, hopefully beforeJuly 13th, you will be able to
meet Heaven, because Heavengoing to be performing there.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know what I'm saying For real.
Yeah, she's performing at thePark.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Fest, but hopefully we get you a role and y'all will
get something, man, Becauseyeah, she's super, Her pin game
Crazy Bro.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I already know.
I be sitting there on the gramscrolling watching what's going
on.
Man, when she be postingrecording with you, I'm like,
okay, stupid tweets, I ain't getno invitation, but it's cool,
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, she be working.
Man, Like she hit me up, I'mlike hey, I got a song or two.
I wrote Can I come?
I'm like pull up, you know whatI mean.
Pull up on me, because I toldher I said yo, you have it, you
have it, just keep working, keepworking.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Keep working.
It literally only take one.
That's all it take it literally.
Take one song, Like whether yoube a one-hit wonder for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It take one, that's all it take to get you up out of
here.
Yeah, for the rest of your life.
For the rest of your life, youknow?
All right, next up man.
I ain't talked about it whatyou think about that.
That, kendrick, was great.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know that shit be for publicity, bro.
Like I didn't super get into it, so like, if you start naming
like the dead songs I only hearda few that came on the radio.
But I don't pay attention toshit like that Because you know
I take it as like and it mightsound selfish, but it don't pay
attention to shit like that.
Because you know I take it aslike and it might sound selfish,
but it don't help me.
(20:35):
Yeah, I'm on some shit now, bro, like, if it don't help me, I
don't care about it.
Yeah, Like, that's just how Ifeel about shit now.
I feel you, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I got stuck in it, man, because that BBL Drizzy
is crazy dog.
There's a few that's crazy, bro, but that BBL Drizzy dog is
definitely one of the ones.
And here's the crazy part it'sAI that's doing the singing part
, Like he typed it in and hadhim sing this bro.
(21:04):
That's why if you go on thegram and you type in BBL Drizzy,
you're going gonna see a bunchof people with that same joint.
That's not Metro.
It's because you can go on thissite, this AI site, and put it
in you know what I'm saying andthey'll sing it.
You can put in hey, young Chrisand Tweez in the studio, we're
rolling, and they'll sing thatshit.
(21:25):
However way you want it, Like Iwant them to sing it in the
Detroit Motown.
Feel Da-da-da-da-da Right, thisAI getting crazy man, and I
always say it like I'm cool withit, but it has to be.
They need to put like a limitor something on it, bro, because
it's gonna get out of hand.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So how you feel about that shit he did with the AI,
tupac and Snoop?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I thought it was creative.
A lot of people didn't like it.
I thought it was creative butpeople was like, well, why you
just ain't gonna get Snoop?
But Snoop wasn't gonna get onthat song.
He from the West.
Like he not gonna ever like goagainst the West you.
(22:10):
I thought it was creative forthe simple fact he wrote those
verses for them to rap.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's I mean it's a new wayof I mean it's the same thing
like if you had a battle rap andsomebody using props yeah, like
DNA, and them used to be likein doctor's office, all that
shit yeah, you know what I meanDoing all that crazy stuff.
So I think it was cool, man.
I love the fact that I say weneeded it.
(22:34):
And the reason why I say weneeded it Is because I don't
know if you check Like sales andstuff like that, but hip hop
was declining At an all timehigh.
Absolutely.
And it was getting bad, bro, sothey needed something To spark
it.
Like you said, it might havebeen publicity, hey, cool.
But guess what you owe?
The talk of the town, not likeus, is number one.
(22:56):
Kendrick got like three of hisjoints is in the top ten, not
like us Euphoria and like thatfrom you know, metro, boomin and
Future.
So yeah, bro.
And then Drake got, I thinkFamily Matters is in the top 10.
You know what I mean.
But that's great because that'sthe hot 100.
That ain't even just hip hop,that's everybody.
(23:18):
You know what I'm saying.
So it's cool, man.
I actually like it, man.
But what's some artists outhere, man, in the DMV that you
rock with, that you like,especially from DC, man, because
DC got some dope artists.
I just hate that.
(23:38):
Everybody just think they rapthat da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah nah, everybody's not likethat.
You know what I mean.
That flow is just one of many.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Shit my nigga Gifted who I be with a lot Um nigga PTV
.
Um shit my nigga ChicagoSantana.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know what's crazy ?
That was my fucking, my uhneighbor bro when I lived in
Upper Marlboro.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh, okay, you know what's going on there.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But then he was just like yo, bro, I got a studio,
you should pull up, pull up toit.
And I was like, alright, cool,I'll pull up one day or whatever
.
And we always met in crossingin the hallway.
But I didn't know he was anactual singer, you know what I
mean.
I didn't know he was an artist,I was just like.
But when I seen him at thestudio I was like, oh, what's
good, you know what I mean.
Then he just took off and it'scrazy, bro, because that was two
(24:33):
years ago, you know what I meanand now he doing his thing, he
just won a whammy.
Shout out to him for that.
Yeah, who else?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Shit, I think a young Manny when they from.
He from Maryland.
Yeah, I answer a couple people.
I listen to a lot of peoplefrom the DMV but I also be
tapping into other artists fromlike Memphis and shit like that,
like a little artist namedGlockiana who I claim as my
niece or whatever the case maybe.
You know, she going hard inMemphis, she underneath Duke
(25:04):
Deuce.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
She going crazy, going stupid.
Okay, she going crazy, goingstupid.
17 years old, straight out ofMemphis.
My nigga Explicit Hunt From outof Nashville.
Just I be tapping into A lot ofartists From around, just
around this, around the worldbro.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know who got Some artists, bro, that I think
People need to Start workingmore with Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Baltimore definitely Got some fire artists.
Yeah, I went to this event.
Shout out to my homegirl, honeyElectric, but she did this
event with Free Space.
Shout out to Free Space bruh.
It was a bunch of artists Allfrom the Baltimore area.
Like they were dope, like itwas spread.
I swear the spot was probablyabout two of these rooms and
(25:45):
they would perform, but it waspeople in that joint, oh crazy.
Yeah, yeah, and they wouldperform, but it was people in
that joint and I'm like, oh, theenergy is right, it be them
small spots like that where youjust need to go tap in to see
who's who and who got what goingon.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Man, it's not always about who got the biggest name
in the DMV, shit I don't careabout.
Like, I'm trying to tap in withwhoever's trying to work,
whoever's trying to work,whoever's trying to build
something, who's trying to makesomething out of nothing, and
that's just what it is.
And I'm trying to work withlike-minded people who
understand the business side ofmusic as well, because you got
artists who just drop 100 songsand be like so what I do now
(26:21):
they don't know to registerthrough BMO or AS Capital, but
you put me on to song trust,shit like that.
So I say it in every interviewyou don't know how many artists
I meet and I be like you got BMI.
They're like nah, I got DistroKid, I don't need none of that,
and I be like that's only onestream.
Yeah, bro, it's like you don'teven understand like.
So you know I get to help otherartists be like well, always do
(26:43):
your own research.
But this BMI as Cap does, thisis what Sound Trust does, this
is what Sound Exchange does.
So you know, you got I seen aninterview.
Nigga said it's seven differenttypes of royalties, seven
different types of income.
Yeah, you should have all thatcoming in and I'm like damn,
that was some shit he wasteaching me I didn't know about.
(27:04):
So it was like it's always alearning process.
Nobody knows everything right,and I hate those people who feel
like they do and you get aroundlike man.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
you really don't know shit.
Yeah, and that's what.
That's what my thing is, bro,is like I try to pass the info,
like, if you don't know it here,this is what you need, this is
what I know you need, but, likeyou said, go go research your
own, but this is what.
But the only thing is, though,is like these young'uns be
trying to combat what you'retelling them.
Oh, what's they said this?
(27:35):
What's they said this?
I'm like, look, bro, like I'mjust giving you the game.
I'm giving you free game.
Like you know what I mean.
Like people charge you for this.
They got consultations for this,but I'm just giving it to you
for free because I'm trying tohelp exactly you.
I'm giving it to you for freebecause I'm trying to help
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know what I mean.
Go ahead and listen to what'shis name and see if you don't
get fucked over in the nextcouple years.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And then contract be all tore up Like I got it all,
man.
I got the contracts, I goteverything Manager contracts,
producer agreements, I got itall.
You know what I mean.
And trying to put this out orI'm just trying to do this-
there don't be no real planbehind certain shit, they don't.
They just they want the.
(28:14):
Now, that's what it is.
That's the problem Today'sindustry.
They want the now.
They don't want to put in theingredients and let the drink
cook over time, they want thefast.
They want the fast food insteadof the slow burn, the slow burn
and the crock pot.
They don't want the crock potmusic, they want the fast fast
(28:35):
food music, absolutely.
A lot of times people crash out.
You know what I mean.
Yeah and shit, man, you stilldoing your thing, you still
moving, everything's going good,man.
Top five artists.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We know top two going to Biggie and Eminem.
Let me see, Give me three more.
All right, I'm going to go.
It don't matter, I'm going togo with my nigga Gifted.
That's three.
Who we going with?
Damn, See it be questions likethis?
You be like damn.
I'm just listening to everybodyin the car.
(29:13):
We got Chicago FBG Duck Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Preston P.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Don't live duck.
I'm going to throw a ride wavein there because everybody keeps
saying I sound and look likethat nigga.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You don't look like him.
You got some some of your.
Well, the roadrunner definitelyis some some ride wave type.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And your boy out of.
He out of Michigan, not fromDetroit, but he out of Michigan.
You remember BFB Pac-Man?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
BFB the Pac-Man, mm-hmm, yeah, okay, top five
producers.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You Fuck out of here, man.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I ain't nobody man.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Man, you somebody, man, I ain't nobody, I ain't
nobody.
Tim Timbaland yeah, hobson.
Hobson is a producer as well.
He produces all his own.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's Buddy, with them white eyes, ain't it?
Yeah, he be flowing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, cool, damn damn .
Who else in there?
Damn Brock gonna beat me up.
What's your, your man S Esquire.
We got one more um, I don'tknow, exclusive DJ Beats, who
(30:35):
actually did the beat forRoadrunner.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Wait, he from you from out here, nah, bro, from
like overseas, for real.
Yeah, hell, yeah man.
That's the thing too, manOverseas.
That's why I be trying to tellpeople music and math is like
the two most universal things.
You know what I mean.
And like hearing producers fromoverseas they be fired and I be
like, oh God, because themniggas, they study, bro.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They see what's going on.
They pick up on the game andthey see what's going on.
They know what loops and drumsand piano strings and all this.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
They know what's going on bro, and what I noticed
, too, is that overseas schoolsstudy us Like outside of a
language that you know what Imean, like a language that you
use for French or Spanish inschool, we not really studying
other countries.
Them other countries isstudying us.
(31:27):
So they studying us from theculture, the music, the
technology.
You know what I mean.
Everything is they're not onlystudying their culture, but they
have another side where theystudying like US history and US,
like you know what I meantechnology.
And that's crazy to me, bro,and I think that's the smartest
(31:49):
thing to do because, yeah, weone of the a powerful, you know
I mean countries, but it's justlike these producers and artists
, overseas man.
And what made me think about iteven more?
Think about our top actorstoday.
They from london.
Buddy from um.
(32:10):
Idris Elba, london.
Buddy from Snowfall, london.
Lamar from BMF London.
What's a buddy name From BlackPanther Not the one I just
Passed away, but His boy Likeit's a lot of them, bro, like
all of them Coming from London,but they, that ain't even our
(32:31):
accent, bro, like it's crazy,even my boys.
That was stationed in Japan, bro.
Japan culture is hip-hop.
They study us, bro, and theymess with the African-Americans.
You know what I mean.
Absolutely.
They mess with us heavy andit's crazy because everybody is
(32:53):
studying us and we're notfocused on them and that'd be
the downfall because theytechnology crazy.
They had cell phones before wereally had cell phones.
They had, like, camera phonesbefore we had camera phones, I
believe it.
Remember camera phones didn'tcome out until, like what, 05,
06?
.
Yeah, my boy was in Japan infour when we first got in the
(33:15):
marines and he had a cameraphone.
I'm like, bro, what is what isthat like?
I was hired.
You gotta, you gotta, come overhere, man.
They got all of this stuff andI'm like, all right man, yeah,
but look, but look before we getup out of here, bro, I always
do gym class, gym G-E-M.
(33:38):
Not ballin', you know what Imean.
But gym class, what's?
A gym that you can leave to thepeople out here, that can put
in their tool bag and carry withthem to keep them pushing
forward?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Learn the business side of music.
Learn the business side ofwhatever you're doing, the
business like the real business,the paperwork.
Do that shit, learn that shit.
That shit will take you furtherthan you know.
Have the right people aroundyou, them negative fingers.
I used to have so many negativepeople around me and you know,
had the right people around you,them negative fingers.
I used to have so many negativepeople around me, and you know
(34:16):
those.
Yes men.
Get them, yes, men, away fromyou.
Everything you gonna put out isnot fire, nigga.
It got to a point where I wasjust I started making dumb shit.
Niggas was still like that shithard.
You need to get the fuck fromaround me Because this shit ass
yeah, so have them.
Write people around you anddon't listen to nobody else.
If you feel like that shitgoing to work, push that shit.
(34:37):
And if that shit don't work, goback and see why it ain't work.
You got people that you don'ttell your ideas to nobody, even
because you got the people youtell your ideas to and they'll
doubt your ideas because theyand they be like man.
Nah, what you need to do is oh,fuck them.
Don't take advice frommotherfuckers who ain't never
been through shit.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
You got motherfuckers trying to give advice on shit
that they never been through,never did, never seen, never did
, never.
Just ain't did shit and theygoing off of what they saw,
Especially with music.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Man, I just got this deal, bro.
What you think, man, I'msigning that shit.
You know, bro, them got a 360.
You know they fucked up rightnow.
So what?
Yeah, nigga, I don't.
The thing is, I don't eventhink motherfuckers know what a
360 deal is or what it consistsof for real.
They just see that on TV.
Oh so, such and such got fuckedover because of a Right.
(35:28):
So, yeah, like I said, have theright people around you.
Learn the business side ofwhatever you got going on.
Get them, yes, men, from aroundyou.
Like we talked about, you gotto travel alone.
Travel alone.
That's just what it is.
That's just what it's going tobe.
You know, get them niggas fromaround just trying to leech off
you and shit like that.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You done dropped some gems, some gems, gems, some
gems.
I'm glad you dropped them,though, man, because it
definitely needed to be saidDefinitely got to get some yes,
men away from you.
Keep the negative people awayfrom you.
You know me, bro, I'm all aboutpositive energy.
For that energy off, I ain'tabout to be around you.
I'm in the cut Like I'm notdealing with it.
You know what's going on, right?
And learning a business man,like that's the thing.
(36:08):
As long as I've been doing thismusic, I'm still learning, and
I'm okay with that.
I like to learn.
You know what I mean?
I want to learn because I wantto be able to be educated.
When I do certain things, it'slike all right, I know exactly
what this is.
And if I don't, hey, what'sthis?
Why is that?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, ask questions man Askquestions.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Man Ask questions man .
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, ask questions, because even if you ask a
question and you feel likethey're going to steer the other
way, guess what that means?
It wasn't for you in the firstplace.
Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I'm saying that's what a lot of these niggas do.
You ask questions, they be likewell, you don't really need to
know that right now but you know, stay away from them.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Nigg you backdooring me, you trying to show hey, old
tiny me Exactly.
You know what I'm saying.
But before we get out of here,man, I want to shout out to my
bro, big John, big Rare, love,benton, love, ayy, got the merch
on man YC over here.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
You know what I mean Got the merch on Got the merch
line Dropping soon, man yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
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Make sure y'all go there, gety'all merch and use the code
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the platform.
But I'm Tweez.
We got YC and this isRelationships Worth More Than
Money.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Gang.
Wow, yeah, yes, sir, we back Relationships Worth More
Than Money.
Podcast.
I'm Tweezy, who I got acrossfrom Young Chris the Artist man.
Young Chris the Artist bro.
It's been a long time coming,long time coming.
I remember when I first startedit you was like, bro, I need to
get on there, I need to get onthere, I need to get on there.
And now look where we at hey wehere.
(00:26):
We here, man, but for all therelatives out there you know,
tell the people who you are,where you from and how this
whole thing got started with you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey, man, say man so, from Northeast DC, been doing
music for like over like alittle 10 years now.
Man Just being in the studiowith my uncle, troy Williams,
and, like he done, produced fora lot of greats Biggie Smalls,
heavy D, tony Brass and TreySongz, just to name a few and
just being there watching him.
He was an engineer just beingthere sitting in the studio,
(00:58):
like what this do, what that do,what this volume button do, or
let me touch this, let me let medo that Pause.
But yeah, just being therewatching him, man, and then
being around other engineers andbeing around other artists, and
just I just grew a love into it, a liking to it, and it's
something I'm doing every daynow.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, All right, you said.
You said you've been.
What artist inspired you tostick with the music?
Because not only do you rap,but you actually do engineer
stuff too.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm saying Shit Listening to Eminem and Biggie
Smalls, honestly, just watchingold YouTube videos that come up
and what it took to get here.
So I'm kind of taking thosesame steps.
You know, booking shows,booking my own shows, doing
videos.
You know, like you say, it's amath to it, it's a strategy.
You got to move right.
(01:54):
You got to have the rightpeople around you Right, just
being in that right head spaceyou.
You can't have them negativepeople around you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, that's a fact, man.
Shit man, I met you.
What three, Was it two?
Three years ago, it might havebeen longer than that, it might
have been like 2018.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, at the Stu, at the.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Stu and Burke.
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
It's like a lot of people thatI've met out there.
You know what I mean I'm stillgood relationships with.
Walk me down the childhood era,though.
Like how was you during yourchildhood?
Like, what was your thing Like?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
what was your hobbies During my childhood?
I wasn't.
I've been doing music since Iwas nine, so anything before
that.
I was like a regular kid justoutside with the homies outside,
cool and chilling, going toschool, doing what a kid do Just
playing around.
I never really had no hardshipsor nothing like that.
Some people be like, oh, my dador my mom was this or nah, I
(02:54):
had both parents, so I wouldnever get up here and fake and
be like man, my life was hard, Ihad to get it out.
Nah, it wasn't none of that.
Like you know, I still had tomake my own money certain ways
and things like that, but it wasnever like no hardships or
nothing like that.
What high school you went to?
I went to like five differenthigh schools, really.
Yeah, give me one of them Shit.
(03:15):
I went to Spangon.
I went to Eastern HD Wilson.
Man, you went around the wholedang old city.
Yeah, man, it came to a pointwhere I didn't start to like.
I didn't like school.
School ain't for everybody.
So I already knew I didn't wantto go to college.
Right, I knew that nigga.
I just went through 12 years ofhigh school, right, ended up
getting my GED.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm like nigga, I don't want to go to college.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Right, but college ain't for everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Nah, it's, it's, uh, what I learned, man, going to
college after I got out of theMarines.
Um, it's like a systematicthing, like you don't need
college, right.
But I will say the, the, thenetworking.
If you're networking in college, that's the key Right.
(04:04):
Networking, if you'renetworking in college, that's
the key right.
You know, I mean becauseanybody can be book smart.
But actually getting throughand networking with those people
that know this person, knowthis person and know the area
that you're in, I think that'sthe most important part of
college is meeting the people.
That's in the classroom, youknow, I mean.
But, um, all right, we wentthrough the cop, we went through
(04:24):
the high school.
You didn't want to do school,you wanted to go, you know, go
smack in with the music.
You said Eminem and Big.
Yeah, you know what's crazy man, a lot of people don't ever put
Eminem in their drink.
I do, I mean, but that's just,that's because I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But like I really do.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I really do Rock with Eminem and they be like man,
why nobody be riding around Likeput that M on, like, so MA4,
like riding around, like youknow what I mean.
But he got.
He got worldwide smashes.
Exactly, you're worrying aboutlocal.
Exactly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They worried about what they hear on 8 Mile Right.
All the Mom's spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's so much more to it If you actually sit and run
through his catalog and sitthere, bruh, it's something you
be like.
Damn this, m.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, m can talk like this.
Yeah, don't let him be Onsomebody's track, because he's
going to really talk crazy, he'sreally going to talk crazy.
You got Eminem big.
What other artists kind of likeinspired you till now?
Because you know how I alwaystell people I don't got a top
(05:38):
five because it's too many, toomany that I love.
You know what I mean, like asfar as producers, artists, all
of that.
So it's like I don't have likea favorite one person.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, eminem was like the top two, like industry-wise
.
But I listen to like a lot ofunderground like Hopson, joyner,
lucas, a dude Jizzy6 from outof New York Just a lot of yeah,
crazy cool.
A lot of underground people, man, that haven't touched that
mainstream platform, because tome them some of the best artists
(06:10):
.
Yeah, you got artists out herethat's way better than Drake,
way better than the industryartists that we hear today.
But you know everybody don'twant that industry shine.
Hold on, bro.
You said better than Drake man.
You got artists better thanDrake man.
You just you gotta search, yougotta look for them.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You gotta be Better than Drake, as in lyrics, or
better than Drake, as in.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Lyrics just artistry all around you have them artists
, I don't know, man, man, I'mtelling you I don't know about
that, bro, you gotta search.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't know, but I'm the one that do it.
Like I literally go out andlook for new artists.
That's dope.
And I tell people, like I wasjust talking to Ro, like I'm
like, bro, do you know that dudeShaboosie, Like he fired, Like
I didn't know he was from here,out of VA, and um, Shabuzy from
(07:02):
VA, the black dude With thecountry song, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
From when I was three .
He from out of Woodbridge.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, I know that other dude, that Brent Fires,
signed that Million Dollar Babysong.
He from Woodbridge too.
He is, yeah, brent Fires, no,brent Fires from Maryland, right
, but the guy he just signed, Iforgot, forgot, I don't know his
name, but he got that song.
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let me write it for you Billion Dollar Baby.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Let me look it up, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He from out of Woodbridge Cause.
It's him, and like two otherartists that just hit Billboard
Tommy Richmond, tommy Richmond Iain't never Been the same thing
.
That joint.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I'm gonna have to type that, yeah, I'm saying but
when I heard it and then when Ifound out Brent Fires signed him
, I said it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Brent got that bag too.
He didn't just eat A coupleyears ago.
What did he sign for what?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Some meals, crazy.
But the thing is people don'tknow he was in Sonder first,
that group.
It was called Sonder.
Before he became Brent BrentFires by himself a solo artist,
he was with a group.
Okay, so you go back and listento Sondra, that's fire, just
like how you were saying, likethat's what I say.
I go back and listen to otherartists, man, but it's like it's
so many.
But once it catches the radar,I do go back and like now that
(08:16):
you said Shabuzy from here,because I'm like I was just
telling him, like, bro, thatTipsy is fire.
But then I also seen him onYonsei joint and I'm like, oh,
you got traction, you got motion.
You know what I mean.
And that's the thing, man, what?
Last time I seen you, you wasdown South by Southwest.
(08:37):
Right, you was going on yourway.
I remember you was likeEverybody go to South by
Southwest.
How is it that you can Maneuverlike that, bro?
Like you moving and you movingsolo.
You ain't moving with a bunchof people, you moving.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It came to a point where, like, I was making so
much music and it was justsitting on my hard drive and I'm
like, all right, what am Idoing?
Like, what do I need to do?
Because something's not right.
I don't want to just keepmaking music and making music
and not doing nothing with it.
So I'm like, all right, I knowa couple people, I need to start
traveling.
This is what's going on.
So you know, I still work, bro.
(09:14):
So it's like, like I just toldyou, I'm working 16 hour shifts
here and there and I don't needa group of people to go with me.
I might bring one or two people, but if they can't go, it is
what it is.
I'm going by myself.
Let's go, we about to rock out.
So, just having a couple littleconnections here and there, I'm
like, oh, what's going on?
Like this popping off, thisconcert going on.
(09:34):
I'm on the way, get me onsomehow, some way.
And, like you said, bro,working still.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's okay to work, Bruh.
I'm telling you it's okay towork 16 hours, whatever you got
to do to get to your dream andyour goal or what you want to do
.
I think the youngest out there,bruh, definitely need to hear
this, because it's like theythink they just going to do
music.
I mean, if you got it like that, will your parents hold you
down, but it's only going to bea matter of time where your
parents are going to be like heylook, bro, this, I've known
(10:08):
this for a minute.
I ain't seen no motion, man,what we doing you know what I
mean.
Because I think, as a parentmyself, I'm going to push my
kids to be great.
But if this is something thatthey love to do and they want to
do, all alright, let me.
Let me try to help you, but ifit ain't going nowhere, we need
to have some other plans.
You know what I mean, causeeverybody can't just do plan A
and stick to plan A you gottahave.
(10:29):
B and a C.
You know what I mean.
Just in case, because thembackups can be the forefront of
the plan A.
They can put you to plan A, youknow what I'm saying.
I think the youngest definitelyneeded to hear that.
Man, because we as a community,it's always something.
You know what I mean.
It's always something.
(10:49):
It's either somebody hating onus, somebody mad at us for some
reason, we don't know why,somebody beefing with us for
nothing, and we don't have theresources that other ethnicities
have.
Absolutely, I think too.
Man, just go out there and work, grind hard and get your
chicken.
Man, get your chicken.
(11:10):
This song that you worked on,man, road Running, road Running.
How long ago did you do that?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That was maybe like last year in June 2023.
It was it's crazy because itwas one of my least favorite
songs.
I was pushing some whole othershit.
That was one of my leastfavorite songs.
But being down south bySouthwest, I seen a nigga out
there, my nigga, C4.
Shout out to C4.
Hammer dude, Real cool dude.
It was like 10.30 in themorning.
I'm walking around downtownsouth by Southwest or whatever,
(11:40):
and I seen him out there withthe mic drop.
I said, well, you know how muchfor the mic drop.
He was like $25.
$25, what $25,000?
He's like no, $25, bro.
I said, all right, bet.
So he was like what song yougonna do?
So I'm like let me doRoadrunner Something different.
Like no, this shit.
(12:01):
One of the ones.
He was like I'm going to havethis shit cooked up in like a
week.
So we dropped it.
I started promoting it, postingit, doing the Instagram ads.
All that shit Started gettingthat traction.
It started moving.
So I'm like, damn, one of theleast favorite songs Like this
shit, all right, this shit doingall right.
So, boom, I started doing that,getting the traction forward,
(12:21):
getting all these new followers.
Just linking up with otherartists, Went down, found a
thing on Instagram calledWeFamATL.
That's the shit I've beenposting for like the past two
weeks.
Now Found them, flew out ofAtlanta, Went by myself, flew
out of Atlanta, did that, cameback, started gaining attraction
from that, gaining more artistsfrom that.
I'm like, damn, they're likethis shit.
I just got to keep pushing.
I got to come up with a greatmarketing plan for it, Because I
(12:44):
see it, I see it.
You know, sometimes everyone'slike don't look for the hit, the
hit going to come.
I feel like this is that one.
Like I see it, bro, I truly dosee it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So with that, bro, I got two things about that.
Was that the song that you wastrying to record?
Remember when your joint keptcrashing and you was trying to?
You was trying to record,remember when your your joint
kept crashing and you was tryingto figure out why I wasn't
playing audio.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, that was one, that was one of the ones that
whole day I was trying to recordcause.
I was finishing up the rest ofmy album and that was one of the
joints I was trying to record.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm like man, this Pro Tools shit is like really
pissing me off you know I callthing Any anything Right and I
pick up Every time.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Every time and I appreciate you for that, bro,
you help me out a lot I be likeTweez, what's this?
You be like do this, do that?
You be like alright, that shitwork every time.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.
So look the second thing.
Um, you talked about ads, bro.
Ads, what are you doing in yourads?
Because I swear man, thesepeople, they got to hear this
because we are independent.
You know what I mean.
So it's like, what are youdoing to get yourself ahead of
the curve, to get yourself infront of the people, to get
(13:54):
traction, like what you do.
How do you do your ads?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
For one.
It's all about you got to, likethey say, you got to spend
money to make money.
It's all about getting thatexposure For my ads.
You know, I just set it up onInstagram, just, you know, I
might set it up for like fivedays.
I might put like $20, $25 downon it for five days.
That's when the traction startcoming in.
You get more plays, the reelsstart going up, you get more
(14:18):
followers.
All that shit start happeningand it's like you see a results.
You see real results behind it.
Other than you got artists whobe paying for like plays and
shit like that.
Now, with the ads, you stillpaying for plays and shit, but
these is authentic.
You know that shit goeverywhere.
Right, you just be scrollingthrough the stories and that
(14:38):
shit just pop up.
People click it, you on.
That's how that shit work.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, now you say you only pay Twenty, twenty five,
so that's what Like five dollarsa day.
Yeah, then once you get thetraction, do you put more into
it?
Mmhmm, and then.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So I might, I might let it go For the five days, let
it run all the way out, andthen I might Jump into like
Fifteen days.
But I'ma do like Ten dollars aday, something like that, for
fifteen days and I just keep itgoing bro.
Like I said, I see it bro.
So then 10 for 150.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
mean 15 days.
You just keep going, bro, likeI'm about to reset it again
today.
Like it ran out what's todayWednesday, it ran out Sunday,
yeah, so I'm about to put likeanother 50 in it right today.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
How long do you normally campaign the campaign,
the ads?
How long do you do it for foreach one?
The longest I did is like 10days.
10 days, yeah, and then withthat it's giving you traction.
And do you set a certain targetmarket or do you set like your?
You set like the area, do youpush DC or do you go further?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Nah.
So when I set it up, it'd belike create your own audience.
I like pick like certain citiesmaybe like Texas, la, oklahoma,
shit like that, certain placeswhere I know it's a big music
market, right.
Or I might just let Instagrampick the targeted audience.
For me that's been working too,but sometimes when you try to
customize it, it don't work.
It don't do as much, yeah, itdon't do as much.
I was about to say that itdon't work.
(16:06):
It don't do as much, yeah, itdon't do as much.
So sometimes the automatic beall right.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, because I think for us or for me, I might put
too many cities.
When you put too many cities,it might only hit two out of the
ten cities you put.
So yeah, that Instagramsuggested probably definitely
work.
What else you got coming man?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Shit.
I'm working towards like tryingto get on stage for A3C.
I met a guy at my job, superplugged in with Universal.
He got a homeboy that do likePR work for Universal.
He's well connected with A3C sowe're trying to get in good
with that.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They shooting in October.
They shooting it in October,they doing it in October.
Yeah, is it at the conventioncenter or is it at the?
What's the name of that spot?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The gathering spot that I'm not sure.
And then it's another.
It's like another musicfestival coming up in September
in Texas.
I forgot the name of it, butname of it.
But yeah, bro, just trying towork.
(17:16):
I'm pushing this single rightnow Like if it take me a year to
push this single.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's just what it is Just trying to get more known
, bro, trying to get thisexposure going.
It's another festival man Roadshooting festival out here,
parkfest, july 13th.
Pull up on network.
I'm there, july 13th, pull up.
Pull up on network.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm there.
I'm there for sure, for sure,because, matter of fact, I'm
going to Richmond on, like June1st or June 2nd, it's a festival
going on out there.
Yeah, I'm shooting, I'm doingthat.
I'm going to do another micdrop out there For them people
that's sleeping on these micdrops, the mic drops, the mic
drops help.
Yeah, the mic drops you help,whether you doing the same song
or not.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, and it don't matter what platform it is,
because I think a lot of peoplestart hating because it's like
oh, I was the first, yeah, youthe first, you the first doing
it.
You might have the most moneyto back it, but at putting other
artists on, you know what I'msaying?
That's a jam right there calledCharged Up Fest.
Okay, may 30th or June 2nd, youheard about that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's right, god.
I think it's something they dolike every year.
Yeah, I'm talking to the peoplethat's doing the mic drop out
there, because usually they onlydo their mic drops in Atlanta
and like Pennsylvania, but theygoing to be there.
So he told me, dude just toldme, pull up, let's do the mic
drop, because he got a dude onthere that's going crazy right
now.
He did the mic drop last yearand that joint picking up
(18:35):
traction now.
So I don't know what it is whatkicked off for that nigga, but
that shit working for bro.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But you know the thing too, dog, like you doing
festivals, not only are youdoing festivals, you're putting
yourself out there Like artists.
You have to put yourself outthere, you have to go to these
festivals.
You gotta build connections,build relationships, because
those relationships can get youinto the door.
(19:02):
You know what I'm saying.
And with that, hopefully beforeJuly 13th, you will be able to
meet Heaven, because Heavengoing to be performing there.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know what I'm saying For real.
Yeah, she's performing at thePark.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Fest, but hopefully we get you a role and y'all will
get something, man, Becauseyeah, she's super, Her pin game
Crazy Bro.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I already know.
I be sitting there on the gramscrolling watching what's going
on.
Man, when she be postingrecording with you, I'm like,
okay, stupid tweets, I ain't getno invitation, but it's cool,
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, she be working.
Man, Like she hit me up, I'mlike hey, I got a song or two.
I wrote Can I come?
I'm like pull up, you know whatI mean.
Pull up on me, because I toldher I said yo, you have it, you
have it, just keep working, keepworking.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Keep working.
It literally only take one.
That's all it take it literally.
Take one song, Like whether yoube a one-hit wonder for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It take one, that's all it take to get you up out of
here.
Yeah, for the rest of your life.
For the rest of your life, youknow?
All right, next up man.
I ain't talked about it whatyou think about that.
That, kendrick, was great.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know that shit be for publicity, bro.
Like I didn't super get into it, so like, if you start naming
like the dead songs I only hearda few that came on the radio.
But I don't pay attention toshit like that Because you know
I take it as like and it mightsound selfish, but it don't pay
attention to shit like that.
Because you know I take it aslike and it might sound selfish,
but it don't help me.
(20:35):
Yeah, I'm on some shit now, bro, like, if it don't help me, I
don't care about it.
Yeah, Like, that's just how Ifeel about shit now.
I feel you, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I got stuck in it, man, because that BBL Drizzy
is crazy dog.
There's a few that's crazy, bro, but that BBL Drizzy dog is
definitely one of the ones.
And here's the crazy part it'sAI that's doing the singing part
, Like he typed it in and hadhim sing this bro.
(21:04):
That's why if you go on thegram and you type in BBL Drizzy,
you're going gonna see a bunchof people with that same joint.
That's not Metro.
It's because you can go on thissite, this AI site, and put it
in you know what I'm saying andthey'll sing it.
You can put in hey, young Chrisand Tweez in the studio, we're
rolling, and they'll sing thatshit.
(21:25):
However way you want it, Like Iwant them to sing it in the
Detroit Motown.
Feel Da-da-da-da-da Right, thisAI getting crazy man, and I
always say it like I'm cool withit, but it has to be.
They need to put like a limitor something on it, bro, because
it's gonna get out of hand.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So how you feel about that shit he did with the AI,
tupac and Snoop?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I thought it was creative.
A lot of people didn't like it.
I thought it was creative butpeople was like, well, why you
just ain't gonna get Snoop?
But Snoop wasn't gonna get onthat song.
He from the West.
Like he not gonna ever like goagainst the West you.
(22:10):
I thought it was creative forthe simple fact he wrote those
verses for them to rap.
You know what I'm saying.
And it's I mean it's a new wayof I mean it's the same thing
like if you had a battle rap andsomebody using props yeah, like
DNA, and them used to be likein doctor's office, all that
shit yeah, you know what I meanDoing all that crazy stuff.
So I think it was cool, man.
I love the fact that I say weneeded it.
(22:34):
And the reason why I say weneeded it Is because I don't
know if you check Like sales andstuff like that, but hip hop
was declining At an all timehigh.
Absolutely.
And it was getting bad, bro, sothey needed something To spark
it.
Like you said, it might havebeen publicity, hey, cool.
But guess what you owe?
The talk of the town, not likeus, is number one.
(22:56):
Kendrick got like three of hisjoints is in the top ten, not
like us Euphoria and like thatfrom you know, metro, boomin and
Future.
So yeah, bro.
And then Drake got, I thinkFamily Matters is in the top 10.
You know what I mean.
But that's great because that'sthe hot 100.
That ain't even just hip hop,that's everybody.
(23:18):
You know what I'm saying.
So it's cool, man.
I actually like it, man.
But what's some artists outhere, man, in the DMV that you
rock with, that you like,especially from DC, man, because
DC got some dope artists.
I just hate that.
(23:38):
Everybody just think they rapthat da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah nah, everybody's not likethat.
You know what I mean.
That flow is just one of many.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Shit my nigga Gifted who I be with a lot Um nigga PTV
.
Um shit my nigga ChicagoSantana.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know what's crazy ?
That was my fucking, my uhneighbor bro when I lived in
Upper Marlboro.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh, okay, you know what's going on there.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But then he was just like yo, bro, I got a studio,
you should pull up, pull up toit.
And I was like, alright, cool,I'll pull up one day or whatever
.
And we always met in crossingin the hallway.
But I didn't know he was anactual singer, you know what I
mean.
I didn't know he was an artist,I was just like.
But when I seen him at thestudio I was like, oh, what's
good, you know what I mean.
Then he just took off and it'scrazy, bro, because that was two
(24:33):
years ago, you know what I meanand now he doing his thing, he
just won a whammy.
Shout out to him for that.
Yeah, who else?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Shit, I think a young Manny when they from.
He from Maryland.
Yeah, I answer a couple people.
I listen to a lot of peoplefrom the DMV but I also be
tapping into other artists fromlike Memphis and shit like that,
like a little artist namedGlockiana who I claim as my
niece or whatever the case maybe.
You know, she going hard inMemphis, she underneath Duke
(25:04):
Deuce.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
She going crazy, going stupid.
Okay, she going crazy, goingstupid.
17 years old, straight out ofMemphis.
My nigga Explicit Hunt From outof Nashville.
Just I be tapping into A lot ofartists From around, just
around this, around the worldbro.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know who got Some artists, bro, that I think
People need to Start workingmore with Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Baltimore definitely Got some fire artists.
Yeah, I went to this event.
Shout out to my homegirl, honeyElectric, but she did this
event with Free Space.
Shout out to Free Space bruh.
It was a bunch of artists Allfrom the Baltimore area.
Like they were dope, like itwas spread.
I swear the spot was probablyabout two of these rooms and
(25:45):
they would perform, but it waspeople in that joint, oh crazy.
Yeah, yeah, and they wouldperform, but it was people in
that joint and I'm like, oh, theenergy is right, it be them
small spots like that where youjust need to go tap in to see
who's who and who got what goingon.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Man, it's not always about who got the biggest name
in the DMV, shit I don't careabout.
Like, I'm trying to tap in withwhoever's trying to work,
whoever's trying to work,whoever's trying to build
something, who's trying to makesomething out of nothing, and
that's just what it is.
And I'm trying to work withlike-minded people who
understand the business side ofmusic as well, because you got
artists who just drop 100 songsand be like so what I do now
(26:21):
they don't know to registerthrough BMO or AS Capital, but
you put me on to song trust,shit like that.
So I say it in every interviewyou don't know how many artists
I meet and I be like you got BMI.
They're like nah, I got DistroKid, I don't need none of that,
and I be like that's only onestream.
Yeah, bro, it's like you don'teven understand like.
So you know I get to help otherartists be like well, always do
(26:43):
your own research.
But this BMI as Cap does, thisis what Sound Trust does, this
is what Sound Exchange does.
So you know, you got I seen aninterview.
Nigga said it's seven differenttypes of royalties, seven
different types of income.
Yeah, you should have all thatcoming in and I'm like damn,
that was some shit he wasteaching me I didn't know about.
(27:04):
So it was like it's always alearning process.
Nobody knows everything right,and I hate those people who feel
like they do and you get aroundlike man.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
you really don't know shit.
Yeah, and that's what.
That's what my thing is, bro,is like I try to pass the info,
like, if you don't know it here,this is what you need, this is
what I know you need, but, likeyou said, go go research your
own, but this is what.
But the only thing is, though,is like these young'uns be
trying to combat what you'retelling them.
Oh, what's they said this?
(27:35):
What's they said this?
I'm like, look, bro, like I'mjust giving you the game.
I'm giving you free game.
Like you know what I mean.
Like people charge you for this.
They got consultations for this,but I'm just giving it to you
for free because I'm trying tohelp exactly you.
I'm giving it to you for freebecause I'm trying to help
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know what I mean.
Go ahead and listen to what'shis name and see if you don't
get fucked over in the nextcouple years.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And then contract be all tore up Like I got it all,
man.
I got the contracts, I goteverything Manager contracts,
producer agreements, I got itall.
You know what I mean.
And trying to put this out orI'm just trying to do this-
there don't be no real planbehind certain shit, they don't.
They just they want the.
(28:14):
Now, that's what it is.
That's the problem Today'sindustry.
They want the now.
They don't want to put in theingredients and let the drink
cook over time, they want thefast.
They want the fast food insteadof the slow burn, the slow burn
and the crock pot.
They don't want the crock potmusic, they want the fast fast
(28:35):
food music, absolutely.
A lot of times people crash out.
You know what I mean.
Yeah and shit, man, you stilldoing your thing, you still
moving, everything's going good,man.
Top five artists.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We know top two going to Biggie and Eminem.
Let me see, Give me three more.
All right, I'm going to go.
It don't matter, I'm going togo with my nigga Gifted.
That's three.
Who we going with?
Damn, See it be questions likethis?
You be like damn.
I'm just listening to everybodyin the car.
(29:13):
We got Chicago FBG Duck Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Preston P.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Don't live duck.
I'm going to throw a ride wavein there because everybody keeps
saying I sound and look likethat nigga.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You don't look like him.
You got some some of your.
Well, the roadrunner definitelyis some some ride wave type.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And your boy out of.
He out of Michigan, not fromDetroit, but he out of Michigan.
You remember BFB Pac-Man?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
BFB the Pac-Man, mm-hmm, yeah, okay, top five
producers.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You Fuck out of here, man.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I ain't nobody man.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Man, you somebody, man, I ain't nobody, I ain't
nobody.
Tim Timbaland yeah, hobson.
Hobson is a producer as well.
He produces all his own.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's Buddy, with them white eyes, ain't it?
Yeah, he be flowing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, cool, damn damn .
Who else in there?
Damn Brock gonna beat me up.
What's your, your man S Esquire.
We got one more um, I don'tknow, exclusive DJ Beats, who
(30:35):
actually did the beat forRoadrunner.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Wait, he from you from out here, nah, bro, from
like overseas, for real.
Yeah, hell, yeah man.
That's the thing too, manOverseas.
That's why I be trying to tellpeople music and math is like
the two most universal things.
You know what I mean.
And like hearing producers fromoverseas they be fired and I be
like, oh God, because themniggas, they study, bro.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They see what's going on.
They pick up on the game andthey see what's going on.
They know what loops and drumsand piano strings and all this.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
They know what's going on bro, and what I noticed
, too, is that overseas schoolsstudy us Like outside of a
language that you know what Imean, like a language that you
use for French or Spanish inschool, we not really studying
other countries.
Them other countries isstudying us.
(31:27):
So they studying us from theculture, the music, the
technology.
You know what I mean.
Everything is they're not onlystudying their culture, but they
have another side where theystudying like US history and US,
like you know what I meantechnology.
And that's crazy to me, bro,and I think that's the smartest
(31:49):
thing to do because, yeah, weone of the a powerful, you know
I mean countries, but it's justlike these producers and artists
, overseas man.
And what made me think about iteven more?
Think about our top actorstoday.
They from london.
Buddy from um.
(32:10):
Idris Elba, london.
Buddy from Snowfall, london.
Lamar from BMF London.
What's a buddy name From BlackPanther Not the one I just
Passed away, but His boy Likeit's a lot of them, bro, like
all of them Coming from London,but they, that ain't even our
(32:31):
accent, bro, like it's crazy,even my boys.
That was stationed in Japan, bro.
Japan culture is hip-hop.
They study us, bro, and theymess with the African-Americans.
You know what I mean.
Absolutely.
They mess with us heavy andit's crazy because everybody is
(32:53):
studying us and we're notfocused on them and that'd be
the downfall because theytechnology crazy.
They had cell phones before wereally had cell phones.
They had, like, camera phonesbefore we had camera phones, I
believe it.
Remember camera phones didn'tcome out until, like what, 05,
06?
.
Yeah, my boy was in Japan infour when we first got in the
(33:15):
marines and he had a cameraphone.
I'm like, bro, what is what isthat like?
I was hired.
You gotta, you gotta, come overhere, man.
They got all of this stuff andI'm like, all right man, yeah,
but look, but look before we getup out of here, bro, I always
do gym class, gym G-E-M.
(33:38):
Not ballin', you know what Imean.
But gym class, what's?
A gym that you can leave to thepeople out here, that can put
in their tool bag and carry withthem to keep them pushing
forward?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Learn the business side of music.
Learn the business side ofwhatever you're doing, the
business like the real business,the paperwork.
Do that shit, learn that shit.
That shit will take you furtherthan you know.
Have the right people aroundyou, them negative fingers.
I used to have so many negativepeople around me and you know,
had the right people around you,them negative fingers.
I used to have so many negativepeople around me, and you know
(34:16):
those.
Yes men.
Get them, yes, men, away fromyou.
Everything you gonna put out isnot fire, nigga.
It got to a point where I wasjust I started making dumb shit.
Niggas was still like that shithard.
You need to get the fuck fromaround me Because this shit ass
yeah, so have them.
Write people around you anddon't listen to nobody else.
If you feel like that shitgoing to work, push that shit.
(34:37):
And if that shit don't work, goback and see why it ain't work.
You got people that you don'ttell your ideas to nobody, even
because you got the people youtell your ideas to and they'll
doubt your ideas because theyand they be like man.
Nah, what you need to do is oh,fuck them.
Don't take advice frommotherfuckers who ain't never
been through shit.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
You got motherfuckers trying to give advice on shit
that they never been through,never did, never seen, never did
, never.
Just ain't did shit and theygoing off of what they saw,
Especially with music.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Man, I just got this deal, bro.
What you think, man, I'msigning that shit.
You know, bro, them got a 360.
You know they fucked up rightnow.
So what?
Yeah, nigga, I don't.
The thing is, I don't eventhink motherfuckers know what a
360 deal is or what it consistsof for real.
They just see that on TV.
Oh so, such and such got fuckedover because of a Right.
(35:28):
So, yeah, like I said, have theright people around you.
Learn the business side ofwhatever you got going on.
Get them, yes, men, from aroundyou.
Like we talked about, you gotto travel alone.
Travel alone.
That's just what it is.
That's just what it's going tobe.
You know, get them niggas fromaround just trying to leech off
you and shit like that.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You done dropped some gems, some gems, gems, some
gems.
I'm glad you dropped them,though, man, because it
definitely needed to be saidDefinitely got to get some yes,
men away from you.
Keep the negative people awayfrom you.
You know me, bro, I'm all aboutpositive energy.
For that energy off, I ain'tabout to be around you.
I'm in the cut Like I'm notdealing with it.
You know what's going on, right?
And learning a business man,like that's the thing.
(36:08):
As long as I've been doing thismusic, I'm still learning, and
I'm okay with that.
I like to learn.
You know what I mean?
I want to learn because I wantto be able to be educated.
When I do certain things, it'slike all right, I know exactly
what this is.
And if I don't, hey, what'sthis?
Why is that?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, ask questions man Askquestions.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Man Ask questions man .
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, ask questions, because even if you ask a
question and you feel likethey're going to steer the other
way, guess what that means?
It wasn't for you in the firstplace.
Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I'm saying that's what a lot of these niggas do.
You ask questions, they be likewell, you don't really need to
know that right now but you know, stay away from them.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Nigg you backdooring me, you trying to show hey, old
tiny me Exactly.
You know what I'm saying.
But before we get out of here,man, I want to shout out to my
bro, big John, big Rare, love,benton, love, ayy, got the merch
on man YC over here.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
You know what I mean Got the merch on Got the merch
line Dropping soon, man yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Rare Love, rarelovefamcom.
Make sure y'all go there, gety'all merch and use the code
RWMTMLOVE and you'll get yourpercentages off on anything on
the platform.
But I'm Tweez.
We got YC and this isRelationships Worth More Than
Money.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Gang.
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