May 20, 2025 • 39 mins
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Ever wondered what happens when raw talent meets unfiltered truth? Taz's upcoming project "Confessional" answers that question with summer anthems that will have you rolling down your windows and turning up the volume.
When people kept asking Taz to "tell the truth," she decided to do exactly that – on her own terms. The result is an eight-track collection that showcases her unique perspective and undeniable talent. "I'm going to tell my side. I'm going to tell how I'm living, how I see it, what my experience is," she explains, giving listeners a glimpse into the authenticity that drives her music.
The journey to "Confessional" took Taz to Houston, where she collaborated with acclaimed producer Bigg Cuz (known for working with Mo3, Kentheman, and Erica Banks) in marathon studio sessions running from 6PM to 1AM for three consecutive days. Rather than working with pre-made beats, Bigg Cuz challenged Taz to create in real-time, pushing her artistry to new heights. "He was like, 'I want to make the beat right now, and I want you to write right now,'" Taz shares, describing the intense creative process that gave birth to tracks like "This How I'm Comin'" – her favorite song and the first single from the project.
What sets "Confessional" apart is its versatility. From songs addressing relationship dynamics to personal reflections (including a track dedicated to her son) to unapologetically "freaky" anthems, Taz delivers a sound she describes as "different from what you heard in the city." Her music stands out in the DMV scene while remaining universally relatable – perfect for summer drives, pre-gaming with friends, or anytime you need that confidence boost.
Mark your calendars for May 23rd, when "Confessional" drops alongside a special listening party. This isn't just another music release – it's an introduction to an artist who refuses to compromise her vision. As Taz puts it, "When I come on this project, I'm coming harder than what you ever heard before."
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Make sure this drain straight.
Oh, it went away.
Put it on um on.
Uh, do not disturb, I did.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, so they don't.
But it's still gonna go tosleep if you don't touch it.
Oh, you gotta turn the whistlename off.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Then what?
Take the uh, sleep off how?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
you do that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Go to your settings.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How do I work in IT and I don't know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Uh, go to your settings.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I don't work in IT.
I don't know how to do it Right.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Uh-huh Go to, uh what is it display?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I work in accounts.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Honey Display it said display and auto lock.
Auto lock.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Never, never, uh-huh, yup, yup, yup.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
My nigga we good man this nigga gave me double shot.
He did yeah we good, we good.
I'm not gonna complain cuz Igot a little girl shot the
(00:58):
confessional.
Is it bright?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, but they blocking something else.
Why you try sipping that whatit taste?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
like oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Did it do?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
that, nope, it's about to, though, oh shit, I'm
scared.
What is that?
That's the one we had last time.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That bottle looks dangerous.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That one is it recording right there.
Yes, it is All right bet.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm scared Sheesh, give that shot for me.
I took a shot already.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Okay, so we uh, ooh, yeah, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Put some hair on your chest, mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, yep, I'm not a drinker.
I do it, mm-hmm.
Yeah, yep, yep, I'm not adrinker.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I do it for the fun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah so look.
New location New location.
This joint dope, I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I like it Shout out to Pure Space.
Pure Space.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, Pure Space.
We here back with my homie Taz,but this time we're talking
about Confessions, Confessions.
Let's get right into it, man,because we ain't going to cut
all the extra stuff out.
We're going to get right intoit.
What made you come up with thisalbum title?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That's funny.
So, as you know, a little backstory of like some of my
situations I was experiencingwith people, they just was
basically asking me to tell thetruth.
So that motivated me to likeconfess, you want me to tell the
truth?
I'm going to tell my side.
I'm going to tell, like youknow, how I'm living, how I see
it, what my experience is.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So, so when you told me the name of it, I was like we
about to get like an R&B joint,I feel like it gave a little.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Um, none of the songs are really R&B.
I might have got two, maybethree slow songs, but um, all
the songs turned up.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, the reason why I said that?
Because you know Confessions byUsher.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know that one about him.
What was it about?
It was about JD.
That's what happened with theJD.
That like was real life and hewrote it and put it on the song.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, Usher sing it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's why I, like you know in the video, you know
everybody thinking like damn, hedone messed off on Chili.
Oh, remember, but it was reallyabout JD and his issues.
He was telling his story, yeahhe was telling his story on the
song.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So what you?
This is like your first bigproject, right, Mm-hmm.
What is it like to like go like?
What's the background of it?
Like, how does it take, whatdoes it take to get into that
mode?
You know what I'm saying, likethe expectations?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
um, going into this project, I didn't know what to
expect.
Um, because when I was workingwith cuz this was my first time
actually working in the studiowith him, like we did a song
real bitch, but it was more likehim send me to be.
I booked my session at home.
This time I flew down there inhouston and um he literally I
(04:09):
think I came with like six beatsalready, like drafted up done,
but he was like nah, like we'lltake two of those, you can do
those, lay them down, buteverything else you gotta be raw
, like I want to make the beatright now and I want you to
write right now, right, so itwas different, so I ain't expect
that.
How was how?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
was the sessions?
Was it like long sessions?
Or was it because I know youwhen you get in that mode and
you start writing, it come itwas a vibe.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I was really nervous at first because I'm
like I don't know what I'm gonnasay, like I don't know what,
what feeling I'm feeling rightnow to even put towards you know
, this project.
Um, because I'm no.
I'm normally like if you sendme the beat, I listen to it, I
might finish it in a day or Imight finish it at the end of
the week.
But this time was like on site,like it had to be right now.
(04:53):
So as soon as we got in there,we had to take shots instantly.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So that kind of warmed me up.
Then some of his people came inand everybody started talking a
little bit.
It kind of made me feel alittle bit more comfortable with
my setting and he just startedcooking.
He started making the beats andI'm like, as we all like talking
mid-conversation, it just likedawned on me like this beat fire
as shit.
So now I'm just like in my zone, like okay, so I get my phone
(05:18):
out and I just start likewriting the first thing, like
whatever the beat made me feellike.
Like it might make me feel likeI feel like talking some shit
about some niggas, I might talksome shit about some bitches,
right.
But that was like the wholeprocess of how we like turn up
vibe, talk out and then he startcooking.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now, did you knock the whole tape out in a day, or
was it like?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No, so I think I flew down there Friday and we left
Monday, but Monday we didn'twork.
But Friday, saturday and Sundaywe was in the studio from 6 pm
to 1 am every night.
Yeah, it was long.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
How did you link with Big Kuz?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Instagram.
I reached out to him.
Yeah, I think I was just onlike a.
I was going through a phaselike either you can reach out,
at least you say you tried, youcan get a yes, or you can get a
no, but at least I tried, right,and I used to always listen to
like kinder man music and Iwould hear the tag you can ask
big cousin.
And I was like who is that?
(06:20):
So I like Mo3, ken Erica Banks.
And I was like, oh, he workedwith a lot of females and I'm
like the sound that he's workingwith sounds familiar like mine.
So I reached out and was like,hey, how much for a beat.
And he told me the price and Iwas like I could do that.
He sent me the beat, I did thesong to Real Bitch, did the
(06:43):
video and we put it out and fromthere we just kept in touch and
always talked.
So this project kind of cameabout of us just talking and
vibing on Instagram.
And then he was like you needto drop a mixtape.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That need to be your next step.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And I was like okay.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So we're getting tutelage from Big Cuz.
How does that differ from likeother people that you work with?
Like, what was the Like?
How was the vibe?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I feel like Now with other people Like I worked with
you before and a lot of timesyou'll be like, nah, I don't
like how this sound Like, fixthis.
Yeah, but I think you cateredmore.
You was more sensitive to myfeelings because we were friends
.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, I'm definitely like.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You would be on me, but you wouldn't be hard on me.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Because you know what I'm saying.
Like me personally, it's thefeeling so like when I hear your
music I'm like, oh, you got togo hard.
When I first heard your firstsong I'm like oh you got to go
hard every time.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But you believed in it.
I didn't even know my sound ofit for real, no, but you gave me
a blueprint of how your processor how you do shit.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So like when you recording you writing everything
is like you going hard.
So it's like I got to be on youlike that, like I had to, but
it wasn't like I ain't going tobe too crazy on you.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Like what the fuck?
He wasn't like cussing.
He wasn't like cussing, becausecuss don't cuss.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But you know how some people Would be like no, do
that shit again, do that.
You know what I mean.
Like nah.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was like that, but it wasn't like that yeah.
He was like I would.
I guess I would feel myselfJust getting tired, like because
from 6 o'clock To 1 am, that'sa lot.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's a long hours, and then we had to like it
wasn't no breaks.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You probably I mean you already taking a break,
you're sitting down and you'rerapping and there's no breaks.
Um, it would be like timeswhere I would be rapping like
one of the lines you know, thispussy got power when the niggas
finna check and I would Iwouldn't be standing with the
energy I'm supposed to come.
When he was like, nah, againhe's like you need to, you need
to feel it.
(08:42):
How do we feel when you, thispussy, got power and the nigga
need to check and I would belike, all right, I would feel a
way.
I would be like, damn, why hehard on me like this.
Then you got to think about it.
He care about the project, likeyou putting money and time into
it and he putting his time andhis name on it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think too is when I envision stuff for
any artist, but like even foryou, it's like you want these
people to recite everythingyou're saying and you want them
to feel like damn, this shit ispower.
Like where the money at.
You know what I'm saying andthat's how you got to do it, so
(09:19):
I know exactly what he was doing.
You know what I mean.
But it's definitely likesometimes you got to bring it
out of that artist because theylike just Like, nah, like you
can be chill on certain songs.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I learned from another producer that I was
working with before I just named.
But he would always tell melike when you get nervous and
like you don't feel comfortablewith what you're saying or how
you're saying it, like just keepsaying it over and over and
over again on the mic until youfeel like this one is it and you
keep that flow.
So we had to do it a few timesand then he was like you got it
(09:53):
do it again and then I wouldjust be like fuck, and I would
just yell that shit out.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Was you standing up or sitting down recording?
I was sitting down.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
He asked me.
He was like you want to do itsitting down in the booth with
everybody out here, or you wantto go in the back, private?
And I was like nah, that's vibeout.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's good right here.
What's some of the pros andcons that you experienced?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
so far through your journey of recording, Trying to
get my sound right.
That's a con Because you know,working with different people,
everybody ear not the same.
Like sometimes I will go homewith songs that's supposed to be
first draft, supposed to bemixed and everything, but you
can still hear no errors in it.
And it depends on the engineerfinding the best engineer to
(10:40):
work with.
That's a con, a pro.
The networking I done met somegood people along the way that
helped me get into places that Iwasn't in before.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
That's always a plus, and I think a lot of people
fall off of the network and it'slike they'll meet the person
and then forget the person thenext day.
Like instead of like followingup.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm a contact.
Hey how you doing.
Have a good day, Good morningGood afternoon.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The follow up is the most important part.
When you, after you network,you gotta to do a follow-up,
because if you don't, and yougot to be consistent about
networking, it's not just youdon't do a meet and greet today
and then it's like, oh God, Imet this person.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like you keeping in contact, it's like a friendship.
You got to build it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because a lot of times man, like for me, like
artists come to me all the time,like yo, I want to work with
you, but I be like okay.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You won't hear nothing else and I won't hear
nothing else.
Like you know what I'm saying,like I'm not going to reach out.
You want to work with me?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, you want to work with me, but I'm not
reaching out to you.
You got to tell me why theymake me want to work back with
you.
Show me, unless you got goingon like your joint legit, then
I'll reach out, but other thanthat, like it's like yo man,
it's a two-way street.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to work, but you gotto pull up.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Some people I used to be one of them people Well, no,
I was, but I wasn't.
I would always reach out andthen, like, I'll tell somebody
I'd be like, all right.
I can book it right there, andif I don't, I'd be like, all
right, I'll use this for laterand I'll come back to you.
But some people just reach outbecause they just want to know
like how much you willing tocharge me for this if I want to
(12:21):
get in the studio with you or doa podcast interview.
But they don't think to keepgoing.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You got to do it every day.
Not only be consistent, bepersistent, because, like you
can be consistent, all you want.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Don't change it up.
People change it up.
They kind of get blindsided,like today I want to be a singer
and tomorrow I know how to rapa little bit too.
But what's the main?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
focus.
Keep the main thing, the mainthing you got to Focus on, that,
push that, yeah, what you thinkis bad for business in the
industry that we deal withmusic-wise and hold on music and
acting-wise because you do beacting a little bit, I do.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know what I'm saying, so what's?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
bad for business.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
What's bad for business?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Not doing your part.
Not doing your part not doingyour part.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Not doing your part, like if you know you working
with somebody and you gettingsomething lined up with somebody
.
Like, say, if we doing musicand we got a studio session
today and cancel because youcan't make it or you forgot
that's important.
I don't want to work with youno more.
It's Right, or you forgotthat's important.
Now, I don't want to work withyou.
No more, right, it's bad foryour business.
You're making it look bad foryourself Like you selling
(13:38):
yourself short.
Yeah, what's another one?
Stop trying to finesse artistsand creators out of like what
they do.
Yeah, you don't win that way.
Nah, that's bad for businesstoo.
That's definitely bad, you'regoing to mess up your name doing
that.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This industry, is small and everybody knows
everybody.
The way the circle comes backand forth.
Yeah, they be like how you knowthis person in Atlanta, how you
know this person, how you knowthis person.
I'm like, look man, I've beenaround these areas multiple
times.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
This group, here know this group, everybody knows
somebody and I buildrelationships with these people
here, that know these peoplethere.
And you think you dogging outthis one person.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
but this one person know the same people you know
and that's why I'm trying totell people like, be careful who
you work with and be carefulwho you do business with,
because if that person ain'tgood, the person ain't gonna be
like yo who you work with.
Oh no, I'm straight.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I just kind of had a similar situation like that the
other day.
I walked in the room and I waslike, uh-oh, bad for business in
here, yeah, and it was justlike these, my people.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You a visitor.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Right, you in my territory.
Yeah, exactly, a lot of times,man, you know, a lot of times
it's a lot of groupie stuff thatbe happening too.
I would say for me that's badfor business, like I can't bring
you to somebody and you turnout being a groupie when I
brought you to this person.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You've had that happen.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Man, yeah, and the sad part, it wasn't a female.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It was a man.
Yeah, men are groupies.
Yeah, men groupies, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And the sad part, it wasn't a female, it was a man,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Men are groupies.
Yeah, men groupies too.
I'm not surprised.
Yeah, they're groupies too soit's like they do just as much
female stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You know what I mean.
You forget who you was loyal to, and then you go to, you go
over there, and then now it'slike how is it over?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
there Is the grass greener.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
If the grass greener, hey, let it be greener.
But hey you know what helps methough.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's one less thing I got to worry about.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Next, you know what I'm saying you just keep pushing
on like.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, just keep moving, Like I ain't got time
for that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Like, but the groupie and studio etiquette Hmm studio
etiquette.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Studio etiquette is like if we in the club or we in
the studio and my boy P, he inthere too, he chilling you know
what I'm saying.
And then he just come up to theartist or the engineer or the
producer and be like yo, yo, yo.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
you should say it like this or hey, hey, hey, oh,
no, no, no, you got to stay yeahyou got to stay in the back.
The only time you can tap intowhen an artist needs to make a
correction is once I'm done andI'm doing a playback, like let
me hear that If I'm not feelingit and I'm like hmm, should I
give more energy?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Then you can chime in and be like Now you're asking
everybody else, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm asking for your input.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Then you could be like, yeah, you might want to
say it a little harder, becauseyou kind of found some yeah, I
had that happen a couple timesLike it was just one cat, he was
an R&B singer too, and like Iwas working at the studio and
(16:46):
the crazy part is the managerwas that I knew, shout out to
Miko Miko, he brought him in and, like this, dude thought he was
like Trey Jones and dudethought he was like Trey Jones
and he thought it was big time.
So he like sitting on the onthe uh, the table like he, you
know, I'm saying like hey, nowplay this song, play this song,
turn and turning up the volumeand I'm like bro is this my
session.
On your session I'm looking likebro, I'm trying to listen to
what.
If I want to work with you,like what you doing, he like you
(17:07):
know doing all this hisproducer like chilling, you know
, saying he chilling, but hepeeping the scene and he just
like yeah, yeah, yeah, this thesong right here, this the song
right here.
And turning up the volume andsitting on the things Trying to
sing the songs and stuff, andI'm just like.
I'm just sitting there likewhat am I doing?
Wasting my time?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, what we doing, you letting me hear it, and sure
enough he recorded like once.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
He recorded once and then went on about his way.
You know what I mean.
But shout out to him Like hewas talented.
But that's the etiquette stuffthat'll get you thrown out the
studios.
Because, like what, if you'rewalking up in Future and them
joint, like that?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And you're telling them you touching the knob.
Comfortable here, but you wereno better there.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, you turning up the dang on controls and stuff,
like bro, what we doing, youknow what I'm saying.
But yeah, studio etiquettegroupies and stop trying to
smash everybody you work withPlease.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
We don't all want to be fucked on.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Stop, like just stop.
If she come on you, that's onyou, bro, like pause, you know
she come to you with some withher energy, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I've had producers, slash engineers.
They'll work with me for thelongest time and, like once, I
put you in the friend zone,that's it.
You can't climb out, especiallyif you're working together.
I'm not fucking people I'mworking with.
That's bad, yeah, and theywould just find their way like
try to climb out the friend zone.
Like you know, I be intothreesomes and shit.
Like I'm freaking, I don't care, did I ask?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
you.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Coming out of nowhere .
What the fuck?
What's up with it?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It wasn't an option.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What we talking about .
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That's crazy.
Now here this one right here,that we gonna do.
We gotta do take a shot.
We're going to do the Q&A game.
Q&a game.
Look, p got his shot, I gotmine.
I had a double, you got to getanother one.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm scared.
Please don't make it a double.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, you got to get another one.
I got to drop back Q&A.
Top five artists your top fiveartists in a DMV.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh, I'm fine In the DMV.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, no around here.
Yeah, it could be no Aroundhere.
Yeah, it can be all time.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean, I know a couple I'm not going to lie to
you.
Dmv.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You don't listen to them.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I used to listen to Wale.
Is it bad that I never made Iused to listen to Wale.
Is it bad that I never made?
I used to listen to Wale, but,like coming up, I will always
listen to Shot Glizzy or FatTrail.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, they trail code .
Shot Glizzy code, he still fly,he still fly.
Yeah, fat Trail.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I haven't heard no new Shot Glizzy because he been.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Shout out to Phone too.
I did a, we did a song, but Ithink he still liked that Free
phone, big phone.
He was a.
We did a song, but he did avideo to it and everything.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Was he a part of Trell's group With.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Trell yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Short yeah, muslim.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Tatted up Light skin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So yeah, trail glizzy .
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That's two.
No, no, pass, pass.
Okay, so three, you got three,you're missing two.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Who else?
Oh, you know what Rico Nasty.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Fire Rico, fire, god damn.
Yeah, fire Rico, nasty Rico,super Fire.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That fire, God damn Fire.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Rico nasty.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Rico super fire.
That's four.
I don't know.
Give me one Wale.
I'm not going to shit on Wale.
Wale had a good upcoming.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I remember seeing Wale as one of his performances
when he really had no name.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh Brent, oh Brent, brent, fias.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He's from here.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I didn't know that.
Oh, you know another one.
What's her name?
You know girl from here.
It's a girl.
What's her name?
It's a girl, what's her name?
She sings R&B.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
She was with Dreamville Ari Lennox.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Ari Lennox.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
She ain't with Dreamville, no more.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
She not.
Oh yeah, she's independent now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They just like just you know, separated, but they
did it on good terms.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They still good Right after the Dreamville, the
Dreamville, they make me alittle scared to sign to a label
, Like everybody go independentnow.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, I think what it is is because the contracts
that they signing it don't befeasible for them.
But they do.
They turn to whatever year thatit is, and then they want to go
independent.
They figure the rules I meanthe game out.
They figure the business out.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I wonder what it's like if I figured out the game
now, before I get there.
Yeah, I still going to wantthat label.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think to me honestly, if it works for you,
go to a major, you know what Imean.
And then, once you done there,you know how to do it
independently.
Go independent like Boosie andthem.
You know what I'm saying, butlike what makes you independent,
though?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Like because you're doing your own shows and
dropping stuff?
You have to book everythingmarketing.
That's what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Dolph was doing all of that.
Like you know what I'm saying.
He had big record labels tryingto sign him, but he was but he
wasn't.
I thought he independent,because that's just the
publishing deal you know whatI'm saying.
Like you're not signed to anactual label, you're doing
everything on your own.
The publishing is your.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Whatever publishing deal you got on the side, okay,
and then you know, like when youwhen you in that type of game
you know what I'm saying,Because you- got it.
Costs to pay to play it coststo be recording.
(23:17):
It costs to travel.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It costs to everything Like you know what
I'm saying the marketing Like,if you want, if you want your
joint to go crazy on the reels,you got to pay Instagram,
facebook.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You got to pay them.
You got to TikTok.
What's them little Instagramaccounts that be doing promo?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, the promo accounts, the little promo pages
.
Like you know what I'm saying,it's so much out there.
And then the only.
Thing is like what's real andwhat's fake.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh, the ones who be buying followers and likes and
those going to be real.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Now you done wasted your money and they only be
having like two likes.
Uh-huh, one of them don'talways match.
Yeah, some don't match.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I always check the followers first.
They'll always be fake.
People get a blue check and behaving 12K followers they're not
even real people and then youcould tell by the likes.
It'd be like 40 likes.
I'd be like oh damn, it's afake page.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yep, all right, so we got the five where the shots
come in at.
I do.
I think I owe you a shotbecause I couldn't get some.
No, this is, I still got mine.
This is where the shots come inat.
You got to pick between twoartists, right, you ready?
Okay, kendra Mann, meg TheeStallion.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Meg again.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Meg.
Okay.
Ari Lennox or SZA, sza.
Okay, wale or J Cole Damn, youcan take a shot if you plead the
(24:47):
fifth Shout out to Drink Champstoo, because this was the
dopest thing that they ever did.
Like on they show Cool.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Damn.
Everybody's gonna say J Cole.
Yeah, I like them both, but ifI had to say who I listen to
more, it would probably be WaleMore than it has been J Cole.
I'm not like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean she from here, though I'm from here, though
you, cole, I'm not likeeverybody else.
I mean she from here, thoughI'm from here, though you know
what I mean I like.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
J Cole Some songs I know and, but I came up on Wale.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I heard him more than I did J Cole.
I understand that.
I understand that it go a hardone though.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It go a hard one.
R R&B singers.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, I like R&B.
Come on Tank and we.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Or Trey Songz.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm going to say Trey .
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Trey.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Because Trey had me singing my heart out back in the
day.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Okay, yeah, you going to say, tank, what you was
going to ask?
Oh, there's no, we just thisQ&A, this Q&A.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Who got more hits?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We ain't talking about hits, we just Q&A, q&a who
you, and if you don't wannapick, you just take the shot.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I think the old Trey he ain't got no new music.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, he ain't got no new music.
I'm sorry he don't.
He don't got no new music.
I mean, do he really he canlive off that?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He's living off of what he had back then.
Yeah, cause all them shit Washit.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
They were I'm going to hit you with an underground
one.
Sauce Walker, you ready, sauceWalker?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
or Thug.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Or.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Thug, yeah, thug.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Thug.
Sauce Walker cold.
Though, hey, sauce Walker cold,he ain't going to take it from
me, right, all right.
Sonswalker Code.
Sonswalker Code.
I ain't gonna take it from youalright, so here going one more
JD, jermaine, dupri or Diddy ohgo ahead, man, go ahead.
(27:03):
Why the fuck would you do thatto me?
Go ahead, man, go ahead.
Why the fuck would you do thatto me?
Hey, you told me to come upwith this Q&A.
Now I'm going to hit you with acurveball.
Oh my God, you taking a shot,or are you picking?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Wait, what's the JD?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Or Diddy.
That's all I'm saying Like bestproducer, jd or Diddy.
That's all I'm saying Like bestproducer, jd or Diddy, because
my personal I'll tell you after,but my personal opinion on it
is it's going to be far to thisside.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm not going to end my career before it gets started
, so I'm just going to take ashot, take a shot, all right
take a shot.
Take a shot.
Alright, take a shot.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I hit you with that one.
Here we go.
Another curveball.
I only got a little bit left.
Gotta go with the times.
So we're going to go with 90s,90s R&B or 2000s R&B, from 90 to
(28:09):
99?
2000.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
2000 to 2009.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
2000s Okay, all right , so you know who Aaron Hall is.
No, okay, so I ain't gonna getyou the Aaron Hall is.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, so I ain't going to get you the Aaron Hall
one I don't take it too bad whatabout Aaliyah or you ready.
Who you going to do.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Who you going Erykah Badu, aaliyah, or Erykah Badu
that lady?
I'm going with Erykah Erykah,all right, one more, one more.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This one might be the one of them all.
Do I want to go R&B or do Iwant to go hip-hop?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, I mean, if you're saying 2000s, you might
as well say R&B, because wereally had too much hip-hop in
2000s.
We had a plet too much hip-hopin 2000s.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We had a plethora of hip-hop in 2000s.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm trying to think, wayne.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Mixtape Wayne.
Okay, wayne, jeezy Gucci.
That right there.
That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm still a Gucci fan .
You know what you might beright, gucci, or?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Jeezy Gucci TI 50.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Ti was oh okay, we did, we did, we did.
Maybe it's the alcohol.
So you gonna go with Joe.
Joe who Fat Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, the singer.
Who the fuck is Joe?
You don't know Joe.
Who is Joe?
Nah, you don't know who Joe is.
You gotta know who Joe is Idon't know who.
Joe is.
You gotta know who Joe is.
I don't know.
God knows who Joe is.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Who is Joe?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Sing.
I'm gonna play it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I wanna know him.
You gotta at least sing thesong.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, but you know that song right, yes, or R Kelly
, r Kelly.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Piss my.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
R Kelly.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
R Kelly, it's chaos.
Ain't nobody messing withRobert dog Chaos?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
He done, did some fucked up shit, but his pen is
undefeated Artistically.
He's creative.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
R&B wise.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Musically.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
He's up there.
Like he's there, I agree.
You know what I mean.
All right, so that was our Q&A.
Take a shot.
Name the artist or take a shot.
Let's talk about this project,what you expect out of it, how
many tracks you got.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think I got eight.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Eight tracks.
Eight tracks what audience, orwhat are you trying to give to
the audience?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
What you trying to give, I want this project to be
like a summer anthem for thewomen.
Ladies.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So it's a bunch of anthems on there.
It is.
You got a listening partycoming up, right.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I do.
What date is that?
May 23rd?
So far for my event, I've onlysent out personal invites for my
RSVPs, but I think I'm going todrop the—.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You got to send one to him too.
Okay, you coming, you got tosend one to P.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
P, I mean Sammy aka P .
Okay, For sure.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
May 23rd, you got this listening party.
I'm mad, because normally youwould send me something, so it's
like I'm waiting to hear whatit sound like too.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I want y'all to be surprised.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
The reason I want everybody to be surprised is
because y'all heard Pretty Bitchand you heard Real Bitch and
every other song, but you ain'theard nothing like this.
I tapped into somethingdifferent.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
What's um?
What are the eight songs yougot on here, Mm-hmm?
What's your favorite one andwhy?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Um, I'll say the first one I'm gonna drop, which
is this how I'm Comin'.
It's lettin', you know, like Iain't been puttin' music out in
a minute y'all, but when I comeon this project, I'm coming
harder than what you ever heardbefore.
It's a different energy.
It's different from what youheard in the city.
(32:55):
I don't really ever compare mymusic to anybody from out here,
no disrespect intended.
It's different.
It's a disrespect intended,it's different.
It's a different vibe.
It's a fun vibe.
It's just something that nobodyheard from me and I have
different things going on oneach track.
Like I got some talking aboutniggas.
(33:15):
I got some talking about niggasand females.
I got personal songs on there.
I got freaky songs on there.
I got all types of shit You'regoing to vibe either way, but
it's all anthems for the summer.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's all anthems, I think so, for the summer and
beyond, when you drop your topdown, you're going to be cranky.
Now the question Because I'mreal big on, like you know, I
love music, but what songs doyou feel like you can see on TV?
Because I'm big on like sync, Ilove sync.
I'm still pushing to get intosync, right.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I have one.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just one out of eight ?
I beg to differ.
I already know there's going tobe some drinks.
I'm like yo.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
this definitely can be on Each song can go on TV
depending on the platform.
Like, if you put me on someP-Valley or put me on some
baddies intros like that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So look, here's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I definitely kill that with this project you ever
seen the Recruit?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
No, what's that?
It's on Netflix.
I've been watching it.
I'm on season two.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
They.
I always put it like this don'tever underestimate your sound.
Yeah, because P-Valley.
Yes, that definitely fit, butthe Recruit is about, like CIA
agents and lawyers.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But they have, like when they about to go to work
and go see.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, and I'm listening.
I'm like hold on, Are youplaying Billie?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Eilish, it don't make sense.
Sometimes I be looking at thattoo, like when I watch certain
shows or like movies.
When they got like gun scenesand they about to go hard on the
scene, I'm like, damn, my songwould sound fire on this part.
When they come through the door, like.
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
I like shit like that, likePower that would be fire it goes
(35:00):
Mm-hmm, because you might onlythink P-Valley.
I think that because they'relike fun songs for girls.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
They're fun records.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I do got a personal song on there.
It's one that's catered to myson.
Yeah, I feel like that can gofor different types of things
too, but mainly this project isfun.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well, before we get out of here, let's do.
You know, I always do my tools,the gems, but before we do the
gems, let's do.
It's called like Build-A-Bear,like Build-A-Artist.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Let's Build-A-Artist.
So from lyrics like if you wasto build an artist, it could be
anybody.
It can be anybody that you wantto write the song, anybody you
want to produce the song.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I'm going to go down the line of building an artist
Like.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
the first thing is who would you want to write the
song?
Any artist, or you, even you.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
If he was still living, I'd say Young Dolph who
Young Dolph?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dolph Okay.
Great writer Dolph to write thesong.
Who is the style to perform thesong?
Who going to perform it?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Hmm, female, I'm going to go with Megan.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Meg Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So you got Dolph as the writer, Meg as the performer
.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Who's the style, who's styling that person Like?
Who's style you taking from?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Tiana Taylor.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Tiana, yeah, tiana Taylor fire.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I love the tomboy look.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, with the Jordan ones Her body fire.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, her body fire.
That's more my style.
I feel more comfortable dressedlike that.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So Tiana Taylor, with the style, who is the producer
of the record?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Hmm, she Big Cuz, big Cuz All right, big Cousin, big
Cousin.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
All right, big Cousin , shout out to Big Cousin, shout
out to him.
So we got, we got Dolph writingit.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Meg performing it Uh-huh, tiana Taylor styling it
Uh-huh and Big Cousin producingit Made the artist.
That's a tough artist, rightthere, right, that's how you
build a test that's a tough allright before we get out of here.
You know we always got the gymclass, no matter where we at um
also shout out to kitchen.
The kitchen, dmv yes this dopearea.
(37:33):
Um for the podcast.
Um, what is a gym that youlearned from doing this album
that you can give to the otherartists out there female artists
, male artists, any artists outthere to store in their toolbox?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Keep going.
You're going to come across alot of complicated things in
your process that might feellike it's slowing you down or
you might feel like you don'twant to do it anymore, but just
to keep going.
Every, every day, literallysince I've started this project,
I have had so many downs and Ijust be like there's no way.
(38:10):
I'm gonna see this through,like I'm not gonna get this
project done, but like the moreI keep going, the more I see
it's getting accomplished off mychecklist, off my whiteboard,
and I'm like, all right, wealmost there.
Just keep pushing because youdon't know what the end is going
to be.
It could be a good ending LikeI'll come.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's a fact.
Keep going, Don't.
I think Pharrell said it.
I seen it on Instagram a coupleweeks ago.
He was like just keep going,Keep creating.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It sounds easier Because when you got life going
on and you trying to focus onlike your dream, it's like it
don't really reality, don't seemlike this.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
It's like where can I place my dream with all of this
, With?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
all of this.
You got bills, you got kids.
You got this coming to you leftand right Family, friends, foes
.
We got a lot of shit going on,so it's hard to keep going.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
But if you stay focused and just keep going like
, like see you through alright,so Taz we got May 23rd, the
listening party.
We got confessionals droppingwhen we dropping it.
May 23rd are we dropping it onMay 23rd too?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
the listening party and the drop is May 23rd album
drop.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
May 23rd.
Go get that.
Make sure y'all go get that.
Like comment, share, subscribeand follow me and follow Taz we
gonna put that down here.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's gonna be, it's gonna be down there.
It's gonna be down there likethat.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
L-o-v-e-t-a-z we gone like that.
Make sure this drain straight.
Oh, it went away.
Put it on um on.
Uh, do not disturb, I did.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, so they don't.
But it's still gonna go tosleep if you don't touch it.
Oh, you gotta turn the whistlename off.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Then what?
Take the uh, sleep off how?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
you do that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Go to your settings.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How do I work in IT and I don't know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Uh, go to your settings.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I don't work in IT.
I don't know how to do it Right.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Uh-huh Go to, uh what is it display?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I work in accounts.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Honey Display it said display and auto lock.
Auto lock.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Never, never, uh-huh, yup, yup, yup.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
My nigga we good man this nigga gave me double shot.
He did yeah we good, we good.
I'm not gonna complain cuz Igot a little girl shot the
(00:58):
confessional.
Is it bright?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, but they blocking something else.
Why you try sipping that whatit taste?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
like oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Did it do?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
that, nope, it's about to, though, oh shit, I'm
scared.
What is that?
That's the one we had last time.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That bottle looks dangerous.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That one is it recording right there.
Yes, it is All right bet.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm scared Sheesh, give that shot for me.
I took a shot already.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Okay, so we uh, ooh, yeah, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Put some hair on your chest, mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, yep, I'm not a drinker.
I do it, mm-hmm.
Yeah, yep, yep, I'm not adrinker.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I do it for the fun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah so look.
New location New location.
This joint dope, I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I like it Shout out to Pure Space.
Pure Space.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, Pure Space.
We here back with my homie Taz,but this time we're talking
about Confessions, Confessions.
Let's get right into it, man,because we ain't going to cut
all the extra stuff out.
We're going to get right intoit.
What made you come up with thisalbum title?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That's funny.
So, as you know, a little backstory of like some of my
situations I was experiencingwith people, they just was
basically asking me to tell thetruth.
So that motivated me to likeconfess, you want me to tell the
truth?
I'm going to tell my side.
I'm going to tell, like youknow, how I'm living, how I see
it, what my experience is.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So, so when you told me the name of it, I was like we
about to get like an R&B joint,I feel like it gave a little.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Um, none of the songs are really R&B.
I might have got two, maybethree slow songs, but um, all
the songs turned up.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, the reason why I said that?
Because you know Confessions byUsher.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know that one about him.
What was it about?
It was about JD.
That's what happened with theJD.
That like was real life and hewrote it and put it on the song.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, Usher sing it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's why I, like you know in the video, you know
everybody thinking like damn, hedone messed off on Chili.
Oh, remember, but it was reallyabout JD and his issues.
He was telling his story, yeahhe was telling his story on the
song.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So what you?
This is like your first bigproject, right, Mm-hmm.
What is it like to like go like?
What's the background of it?
Like, how does it take, whatdoes it take to get into that
mode?
You know what I'm saying, likethe expectations?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
um, going into this project, I didn't know what to
expect.
Um, because when I was workingwith cuz this was my first time
actually working in the studiowith him, like we did a song
real bitch, but it was more likehim send me to be.
I booked my session at home.
This time I flew down there inhouston and um he literally I
(04:09):
think I came with like six beatsalready, like drafted up done,
but he was like nah, like we'lltake two of those, you can do
those, lay them down, buteverything else you gotta be raw
, like I want to make the beatright now and I want you to
write right now, right, so itwas different, so I ain't expect
that.
How was how?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
was the sessions?
Was it like long sessions?
Or was it because I know youwhen you get in that mode and
you start writing, it come itwas a vibe.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I was really nervous at first because I'm
like I don't know what I'm gonnasay, like I don't know what,
what feeling I'm feeling rightnow to even put towards you know
, this project.
Um, because I'm no.
I'm normally like if you sendme the beat, I listen to it, I
might finish it in a day or Imight finish it at the end of
the week.
But this time was like on site,like it had to be right now.
(04:53):
So as soon as we got in there,we had to take shots instantly.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So that kind of warmed me up.
Then some of his people came inand everybody started talking a
little bit.
It kind of made me feel alittle bit more comfortable with
my setting and he just startedcooking.
He started making the beats andI'm like, as we all like talking
mid-conversation, it just likedawned on me like this beat fire
as shit.
So now I'm just like in my zone, like okay, so I get my phone
(05:18):
out and I just start likewriting the first thing, like
whatever the beat made me feellike.
Like it might make me feel likeI feel like talking some shit
about some niggas, I might talksome shit about some bitches,
right.
But that was like the wholeprocess of how we like turn up
vibe, talk out and then he startcooking.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now, did you knock the whole tape out in a day, or
was it like?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No, so I think I flew down there Friday and we left
Monday, but Monday we didn'twork.
But Friday, saturday and Sundaywe was in the studio from 6 pm
to 1 am every night.
Yeah, it was long.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
How did you link with Big Kuz?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Instagram.
I reached out to him.
Yeah, I think I was just onlike a.
I was going through a phaselike either you can reach out,
at least you say you tried, youcan get a yes, or you can get a
no, but at least I tried, right,and I used to always listen to
like kinder man music and Iwould hear the tag you can ask
big cousin.
And I was like who is that?
(06:20):
So I like Mo3, ken Erica Banks.
And I was like, oh, he workedwith a lot of females and I'm
like the sound that he's workingwith sounds familiar like mine.
So I reached out and was like,hey, how much for a beat.
And he told me the price and Iwas like I could do that.
He sent me the beat, I did thesong to Real Bitch, did the
(06:43):
video and we put it out and fromthere we just kept in touch and
always talked.
So this project kind of cameabout of us just talking and
vibing on Instagram.
And then he was like you needto drop a mixtape.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That need to be your next step.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And I was like okay.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So we're getting tutelage from Big Cuz.
How does that differ from likeother people that you work with?
Like, what was the Like?
How was the vibe?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I feel like Now with other people Like I worked with
you before and a lot of timesyou'll be like, nah, I don't
like how this sound Like, fixthis.
Yeah, but I think you cateredmore.
You was more sensitive to myfeelings because we were friends
.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, I'm definitely like.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You would be on me, but you wouldn't be hard on me.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Because you know what I'm saying.
Like me personally, it's thefeeling so like when I hear your
music I'm like, oh, you got togo hard.
When I first heard your firstsong I'm like oh you got to go
hard every time.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But you believed in it.
I didn't even know my sound ofit for real, no, but you gave me
a blueprint of how your processor how you do shit.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So like when you recording you writing everything
is like you going hard.
So it's like I got to be on youlike that, like I had to, but
it wasn't like I ain't going tobe too crazy on you.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Like what the fuck?
He wasn't like cussing.
He wasn't like cussing, becausecuss don't cuss.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But you know how some people Would be like no, do
that shit again, do that.
You know what I mean.
Like nah.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was like that, but it wasn't like that yeah.
He was like I would.
I guess I would feel myselfJust getting tired, like because
from 6 o'clock To 1 am, that'sa lot.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's a long hours, and then we had to like it
wasn't no breaks.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You probably I mean you already taking a break,
you're sitting down and you'rerapping and there's no breaks.
Um, it would be like timeswhere I would be rapping like
one of the lines you know, thispussy got power when the niggas
finna check and I would Iwouldn't be standing with the
energy I'm supposed to come.
When he was like, nah, againhe's like you need to, you need
to feel it.
(08:42):
How do we feel when you, thispussy, got power and the nigga
need to check and I would belike, all right, I would feel a
way.
I would be like, damn, why hehard on me like this.
Then you got to think about it.
He care about the project, likeyou putting money and time into
it and he putting his time andhis name on it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think too is when I envision stuff for
any artist, but like even foryou, it's like you want these
people to recite everythingyou're saying and you want them
to feel like damn, this shit ispower.
Like where the money at.
You know what I'm saying andthat's how you got to do it, so
(09:19):
I know exactly what he was doing.
You know what I mean.
But it's definitely likesometimes you got to bring it
out of that artist because theylike just Like, nah, like you
can be chill on certain songs.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I learned from another producer that I was
working with before I just named.
But he would always tell melike when you get nervous and
like you don't feel comfortablewith what you're saying or how
you're saying it, like just keepsaying it over and over and
over again on the mic until youfeel like this one is it and you
keep that flow.
So we had to do it a few timesand then he was like you got it
(09:53):
do it again and then I wouldjust be like fuck, and I would
just yell that shit out.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Was you standing up or sitting down recording?
I was sitting down.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
He asked me.
He was like you want to do itsitting down in the booth with
everybody out here, or you wantto go in the back, private?
And I was like nah, that's vibeout.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's good right here.
What's some of the pros andcons that you experienced?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
so far through your journey of recording, Trying to
get my sound right.
That's a con Because you know,working with different people,
everybody ear not the same.
Like sometimes I will go homewith songs that's supposed to be
first draft, supposed to bemixed and everything, but you
can still hear no errors in it.
And it depends on the engineerfinding the best engineer to
(10:40):
work with.
That's a con, a pro.
The networking I done met somegood people along the way that
helped me get into places that Iwasn't in before.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
That's always a plus, and I think a lot of people
fall off of the network and it'slike they'll meet the person
and then forget the person thenext day.
Like instead of like followingup.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm a contact.
Hey how you doing.
Have a good day, Good morningGood afternoon.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The follow up is the most important part.
When you, after you network,you gotta to do a follow-up,
because if you don't, and yougot to be consistent about
networking, it's not just youdon't do a meet and greet today
and then it's like, oh God, Imet this person.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like you keeping in contact, it's like a friendship.
You got to build it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because a lot of times man, like for me, like
artists come to me all the time,like yo, I want to work with
you, but I be like okay.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You won't hear nothing else and I won't hear
nothing else.
Like you know what I'm saying,like I'm not going to reach out.
You want to work with me?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, you want to work with me, but I'm not
reaching out to you.
You got to tell me why theymake me want to work back with
you.
Show me, unless you got goingon like your joint legit, then
I'll reach out, but other thanthat, like it's like yo man,
it's a two-way street.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to work, but you gotto pull up.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Some people I used to be one of them people Well, no,
I was, but I wasn't.
I would always reach out andthen, like, I'll tell somebody
I'd be like, all right.
I can book it right there, andif I don't, I'd be like, all
right, I'll use this for laterand I'll come back to you.
But some people just reach outbecause they just want to know
like how much you willing tocharge me for this if I want to
(12:21):
get in the studio with you or doa podcast interview.
But they don't think to keepgoing.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You got to do it every day.
Not only be consistent, bepersistent, because, like you
can be consistent, all you want.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Don't change it up.
People change it up.
They kind of get blindsided,like today I want to be a singer
and tomorrow I know how to rapa little bit too.
But what's the main?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
focus.
Keep the main thing, the mainthing you got to Focus on, that,
push that, yeah, what you thinkis bad for business in the
industry that we deal withmusic-wise and hold on music and
acting-wise because you do beacting a little bit, I do.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know what I'm saying, so what's?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
bad for business.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
What's bad for business?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Not doing your part.
Not doing your part not doingyour part.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Not doing your part, like if you know you working
with somebody and you gettingsomething lined up with somebody
.
Like, say, if we doing musicand we got a studio session
today and cancel because youcan't make it or you forgot
that's important.
I don't want to work with youno more.
It's Right, or you forgotthat's important.
Now, I don't want to work withyou.
No more, right, it's bad foryour business.
You're making it look bad foryourself Like you selling
(13:38):
yourself short.
Yeah, what's another one?
Stop trying to finesse artistsand creators out of like what
they do.
Yeah, you don't win that way.
Nah, that's bad for businesstoo.
That's definitely bad, you'regoing to mess up your name doing
that.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This industry, is small and everybody knows
everybody.
The way the circle comes backand forth.
Yeah, they be like how you knowthis person in Atlanta, how you
know this person, how you knowthis person.
I'm like, look man, I've beenaround these areas multiple
times.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
This group, here know this group, everybody knows
somebody and I buildrelationships with these people
here, that know these peoplethere.
And you think you dogging outthis one person.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
but this one person know the same people you know
and that's why I'm trying totell people like, be careful who
you work with and be carefulwho you do business with,
because if that person ain'tgood, the person ain't gonna be
like yo who you work with.
Oh no, I'm straight.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I just kind of had a similar situation like that the
other day.
I walked in the room and I waslike, uh-oh, bad for business in
here, yeah, and it was justlike these, my people.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You a visitor.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Right, you in my territory.
Yeah, exactly, a lot of times,man, you know, a lot of times
it's a lot of groupie stuff thatbe happening too.
I would say for me that's badfor business, like I can't bring
you to somebody and you turnout being a groupie when I
brought you to this person.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You've had that happen.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Man, yeah, and the sad part, it wasn't a female.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It was a man.
Yeah, men are groupies.
Yeah, men groupies, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And the sad part, it wasn't a female, it was a man,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Men are groupies.
Yeah, men groupies too.
I'm not surprised.
Yeah, they're groupies too soit's like they do just as much
female stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You know what I mean.
You forget who you was loyal to, and then you go to, you go
over there, and then now it'slike how is it over?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
there Is the grass greener.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
If the grass greener, hey, let it be greener.
But hey you know what helps methough.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's one less thing I got to worry about.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Next, you know what I'm saying you just keep pushing
on like.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, just keep moving, Like I ain't got time
for that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Like, but the groupie and studio etiquette Hmm studio
etiquette.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Studio etiquette is like if we in the club or we in
the studio and my boy P, he inthere too, he chilling you know
what I'm saying.
And then he just come up to theartist or the engineer or the
producer and be like yo, yo, yo.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
you should say it like this or hey, hey, hey, oh,
no, no, no, you got to stay yeahyou got to stay in the back.
The only time you can tap intowhen an artist needs to make a
correction is once I'm done andI'm doing a playback, like let
me hear that If I'm not feelingit and I'm like hmm, should I
give more energy?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Then you can chime in and be like Now you're asking
everybody else, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm asking for your input.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Then you could be like, yeah, you might want to
say it a little harder, becauseyou kind of found some yeah, I
had that happen a couple timesLike it was just one cat, he was
an R&B singer too, and like Iwas working at the studio and
(16:46):
the crazy part is the managerwas that I knew, shout out to
Miko Miko, he brought him in and, like this, dude thought he was
like Trey Jones and dudethought he was like Trey Jones
and he thought it was big time.
So he like sitting on the onthe uh, the table like he, you
know, I'm saying like hey, nowplay this song, play this song,
turn and turning up the volumeand I'm like bro is this my
session.
On your session I'm looking likebro, I'm trying to listen to
what.
If I want to work with you,like what you doing, he like you
(17:07):
know doing all this hisproducer like chilling, you know
, saying he chilling, but hepeeping the scene and he just
like yeah, yeah, yeah, this thesong right here, this the song
right here.
And turning up the volume andsitting on the things Trying to
sing the songs and stuff, andI'm just like.
I'm just sitting there likewhat am I doing?
Wasting my time?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, what we doing, you letting me hear it, and sure
enough he recorded like once.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
He recorded once and then went on about his way.
You know what I mean.
But shout out to him Like hewas talented.
But that's the etiquette stuffthat'll get you thrown out the
studios.
Because, like what, if you'rewalking up in Future and them
joint, like that?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And you're telling them you touching the knob.
Comfortable here, but you wereno better there.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, you turning up the dang on controls and stuff,
like bro, what we doing, youknow what I'm saying.
But yeah, studio etiquettegroupies and stop trying to
smash everybody you work withPlease.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
We don't all want to be fucked on.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Stop, like just stop.
If she come on you, that's onyou, bro, like pause, you know
she come to you with some withher energy, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I've had producers, slash engineers.
They'll work with me for thelongest time and, like once, I
put you in the friend zone,that's it.
You can't climb out, especiallyif you're working together.
I'm not fucking people I'mworking with.
That's bad, yeah, and theywould just find their way like
try to climb out the friend zone.
Like you know, I be intothreesomes and shit.
Like I'm freaking, I don't care, did I ask?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
you.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Coming out of nowhere .
What the fuck?
What's up with it?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It wasn't an option.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What we talking about .
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That's crazy.
Now here this one right here,that we gonna do.
We gotta do take a shot.
We're going to do the Q&A game.
Q&a game.
Look, p got his shot, I gotmine.
I had a double, you got to getanother one.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm scared.
Please don't make it a double.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, you got to get another one.
I got to drop back Q&A.
Top five artists your top fiveartists in a DMV.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh, I'm fine In the DMV.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, no around here.
Yeah, it could be no Aroundhere.
Yeah, it can be all time.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean, I know a couple I'm not going to lie to
you.
Dmv.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You don't listen to them.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I used to listen to Wale.
Is it bad that I never made Iused to listen to Wale.
Is it bad that I never made?
I used to listen to Wale, but,like coming up, I will always
listen to Shot Glizzy or FatTrail.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, they trail code .
Shot Glizzy code, he still fly,he still fly.
Yeah, fat Trail.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I haven't heard no new Shot Glizzy because he been.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Shout out to Phone too.
I did a, we did a song, but Ithink he still liked that Free
phone, big phone.
He was a.
We did a song, but he did avideo to it and everything.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Was he a part of Trell's group With.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Trell yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Short yeah, muslim.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Tatted up Light skin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So yeah, trail glizzy .
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That's two.
No, no, pass, pass.
Okay, so three, you got three,you're missing two.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Who else?
Oh, you know what Rico Nasty.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Fire Rico, fire, god damn.
Yeah, fire Rico, nasty Rico,super Fire.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That fire, God damn Fire.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Rico nasty.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Rico super fire.
That's four.
I don't know.
Give me one Wale.
I'm not going to shit on Wale.
Wale had a good upcoming.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I remember seeing Wale as one of his performances
when he really had no name.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh Brent, oh Brent, brent, fias.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He's from here.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I didn't know that.
Oh, you know another one.
What's her name?
You know girl from here.
It's a girl.
What's her name?
It's a girl, what's her name?
She sings R&B.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
She was with Dreamville Ari Lennox.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Ari Lennox.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
She ain't with Dreamville, no more.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
She not.
Oh yeah, she's independent now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They just like just you know, separated, but they
did it on good terms.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They still good Right after the Dreamville, the
Dreamville, they make me alittle scared to sign to a label
, Like everybody go independentnow.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, I think what it is is because the contracts
that they signing it don't befeasible for them.
But they do.
They turn to whatever year thatit is, and then they want to go
independent.
They figure the rules I meanthe game out.
They figure the business out.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I wonder what it's like if I figured out the game
now, before I get there.
Yeah, I still going to wantthat label.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think to me honestly, if it works for you,
go to a major, you know what Imean.
And then, once you done there,you know how to do it
independently.
Go independent like Boosie andthem.
You know what I'm saying, butlike what makes you independent,
though?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Like because you're doing your own shows and
dropping stuff?
You have to book everythingmarketing.
That's what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Dolph was doing all of that.
Like you know what I'm saying.
He had big record labels tryingto sign him, but he was but he
wasn't.
I thought he independent,because that's just the
publishing deal you know whatI'm saying.
Like you're not signed to anactual label, you're doing
everything on your own.
The publishing is your.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Whatever publishing deal you got on the side, okay,
and then you know, like when youwhen you in that type of game
you know what I'm saying,Because you- got it.
Costs to pay to play it coststo be recording.
(23:17):
It costs to travel.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It costs to everything Like you know what
I'm saying the marketing Like,if you want, if you want your
joint to go crazy on the reels,you got to pay Instagram,
facebook.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You got to pay them.
You got to TikTok.
What's them little Instagramaccounts that be doing promo?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, the promo accounts, the little promo pages
.
Like you know what I'm saying,it's so much out there.
And then the only.
Thing is like what's real andwhat's fake.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh, the ones who be buying followers and likes and
those going to be real.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Now you done wasted your money and they only be
having like two likes.
Uh-huh, one of them don'talways match.
Yeah, some don't match.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I always check the followers first.
They'll always be fake.
People get a blue check and behaving 12K followers they're not
even real people and then youcould tell by the likes.
It'd be like 40 likes.
I'd be like oh damn, it's afake page.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yep, all right, so we got the five where the shots
come in at.
I do.
I think I owe you a shotbecause I couldn't get some.
No, this is, I still got mine.
This is where the shots come inat.
You got to pick between twoartists, right, you ready?
Okay, kendra Mann, meg TheeStallion.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Meg again.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Meg.
Okay.
Ari Lennox or SZA, sza.
Okay, wale or J Cole Damn, youcan take a shot if you plead the
(24:47):
fifth Shout out to Drink Champstoo, because this was the
dopest thing that they ever did.
Like on they show Cool.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Damn.
Everybody's gonna say J Cole.
Yeah, I like them both, but ifI had to say who I listen to
more, it would probably be WaleMore than it has been J Cole.
I'm not like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean she from here, though I'm from here, though
you, cole, I'm not likeeverybody else.
I mean she from here, thoughI'm from here, though you know
what I mean I like.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
J Cole Some songs I know and, but I came up on Wale.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I heard him more than I did J Cole.
I understand that.
I understand that it go a hardone though.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It go a hard one.
R R&B singers.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, I like R&B.
Come on Tank and we.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Or Trey Songz.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm going to say Trey .
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Trey.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Because Trey had me singing my heart out back in the
day.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Okay, yeah, you going to say, tank, what you was
going to ask?
Oh, there's no, we just thisQ&A, this Q&A.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Who got more hits?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We ain't talking about hits, we just Q&A, q&a who
you, and if you don't wannapick, you just take the shot.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I think the old Trey he ain't got no new music.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, he ain't got no new music.
I'm sorry he don't.
He don't got no new music.
I mean, do he really he canlive off that?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He's living off of what he had back then.
Yeah, cause all them shit Washit.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
They were I'm going to hit you with an underground
one.
Sauce Walker, you ready, sauceWalker?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
or Thug.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Or.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Thug, yeah, thug.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Thug.
Sauce Walker cold.
Though, hey, sauce Walker cold,he ain't going to take it from
me, right, all right.
Sonswalker Code.
Sonswalker Code.
I ain't gonna take it from youalright, so here going one more
JD, jermaine, dupri or Diddy ohgo ahead, man, go ahead.
(27:03):
Why the fuck would you do thatto me?
Go ahead, man, go ahead.
Why the fuck would you do thatto me?
Hey, you told me to come upwith this Q&A.
Now I'm going to hit you with acurveball.
Oh my God, you taking a shot,or are you picking?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Wait, what's the JD?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Or Diddy.
That's all I'm saying Like bestproducer, jd or Diddy.
That's all I'm saying Like bestproducer, jd or Diddy, because
my personal I'll tell you after,but my personal opinion on it
is it's going to be far to thisside.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm not going to end my career before it gets started
, so I'm just going to take ashot, take a shot, all right
take a shot.
Take a shot.
Alright, take a shot.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I hit you with that one.
Here we go.
Another curveball.
I only got a little bit left.
Gotta go with the times.
So we're going to go with 90s,90s R&B or 2000s R&B, from 90 to
(28:09):
99?
2000.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
2000 to 2009.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
2000s Okay, all right , so you know who Aaron Hall is.
No, okay, so I ain't gonna getyou the Aaron Hall is.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, so I ain't going to get you the Aaron Hall
one I don't take it too bad whatabout Aaliyah or you ready.
Who you going to do.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Who you going Erykah Badu, aaliyah, or Erykah Badu
that lady?
I'm going with Erykah Erykah,all right, one more, one more.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This one might be the one of them all.
Do I want to go R&B or do Iwant to go hip-hop?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, I mean, if you're saying 2000s, you might
as well say R&B, because wereally had too much hip-hop in
2000s.
We had a plet too much hip-hopin 2000s.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We had a plethora of hip-hop in 2000s.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm trying to think, wayne.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Mixtape Wayne.
Okay, wayne, jeezy Gucci.
That right there.
That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm still a Gucci fan .
You know what you might beright, gucci, or?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Jeezy Gucci TI 50.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Ti was oh okay, we did, we did, we did.
Maybe it's the alcohol.
So you gonna go with Joe.
Joe who Fat Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, the singer.
Who the fuck is Joe?
You don't know Joe.
Who is Joe?
Nah, you don't know who Joe is.
You gotta know who Joe is Idon't know who.
Joe is.
You gotta know who Joe is.
I don't know.
God knows who Joe is.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Who is Joe?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Sing.
I'm gonna play it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I wanna know him.
You gotta at least sing thesong.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, but you know that song right, yes, or R Kelly
, r Kelly.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Piss my.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
R Kelly.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
R Kelly, it's chaos.
Ain't nobody messing withRobert dog Chaos?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
He done, did some fucked up shit, but his pen is
undefeated Artistically.
He's creative.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
R&B wise.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Musically.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
He's up there.
Like he's there, I agree.
You know what I mean.
All right, so that was our Q&A.
Take a shot.
Name the artist or take a shot.
Let's talk about this project,what you expect out of it, how
many tracks you got.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think I got eight.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Eight tracks.
Eight tracks what audience, orwhat are you trying to give to
the audience?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
What you trying to give, I want this project to be
like a summer anthem for thewomen.
Ladies.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So it's a bunch of anthems on there.
It is.
You got a listening partycoming up, right.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I do.
What date is that?
May 23rd?
So far for my event, I've onlysent out personal invites for my
RSVPs, but I think I'm going todrop the—.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You got to send one to him too.
Okay, you coming, you got tosend one to P.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
P, I mean Sammy aka P .
Okay, For sure.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
May 23rd, you got this listening party.
I'm mad, because normally youwould send me something, so it's
like I'm waiting to hear whatit sound like too.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I want y'all to be surprised.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
The reason I want everybody to be surprised is
because y'all heard Pretty Bitchand you heard Real Bitch and
every other song, but you ain'theard nothing like this.
I tapped into somethingdifferent.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
What's um?
What are the eight songs yougot on here, Mm-hmm?
What's your favorite one andwhy?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Um, I'll say the first one I'm gonna drop, which
is this how I'm Comin'.
It's lettin', you know, like Iain't been puttin' music out in
a minute y'all, but when I comeon this project, I'm coming
harder than what you ever heardbefore.
It's a different energy.
It's different from what youheard in the city.
(32:55):
I don't really ever compare mymusic to anybody from out here,
no disrespect intended.
It's different.
It's a disrespect intended,it's different.
It's a different vibe.
It's a fun vibe.
It's just something that nobodyheard from me and I have
different things going on oneach track.
Like I got some talking aboutniggas.
(33:15):
I got some talking about niggasand females.
I got personal songs on there.
I got freaky songs on there.
I got all types of shit You'regoing to vibe either way, but
it's all anthems for the summer.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's all anthems, I think so, for the summer and
beyond, when you drop your topdown, you're going to be cranky.
Now the question Because I'mreal big on, like you know, I
love music, but what songs doyou feel like you can see on TV?
Because I'm big on like sync, Ilove sync.
I'm still pushing to get intosync, right.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I have one.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just one out of eight ?
I beg to differ.
I already know there's going tobe some drinks.
I'm like yo.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
this definitely can be on Each song can go on TV
depending on the platform.
Like, if you put me on someP-Valley or put me on some
baddies intros like that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So look, here's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I definitely kill that with this project you ever
seen the Recruit?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
No, what's that?
It's on Netflix.
I've been watching it.
I'm on season two.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
They.
I always put it like this don'tever underestimate your sound.
Yeah, because P-Valley.
Yes, that definitely fit, butthe Recruit is about, like CIA
agents and lawyers.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But they have, like when they about to go to work
and go see.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, and I'm listening.
I'm like hold on, Are youplaying Billie?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Eilish, it don't make sense.
Sometimes I be looking at thattoo, like when I watch certain
shows or like movies.
When they got like gun scenesand they about to go hard on the
scene, I'm like, damn, my songwould sound fire on this part.
When they come through the door, like.
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
I like shit like that, likePower that would be fire it goes
(35:00):
Mm-hmm, because you might onlythink P-Valley.
I think that because they'relike fun songs for girls.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
They're fun records.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I do got a personal song on there.
It's one that's catered to myson.
Yeah, I feel like that can gofor different types of things
too, but mainly this project isfun.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well, before we get out of here, let's do.
You know, I always do my tools,the gems, but before we do the
gems, let's do.
It's called like Build-A-Bear,like Build-A-Artist.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Let's Build-A-Artist.
So from lyrics like if you wasto build an artist, it could be
anybody.
It can be anybody that you wantto write the song, anybody you
want to produce the song.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I'm going to go down the line of building an artist
Like.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
the first thing is who would you want to write the
song?
Any artist, or you, even you.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
If he was still living, I'd say Young Dolph who
Young Dolph?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dolph Okay.
Great writer Dolph to write thesong.
Who is the style to perform thesong?
Who going to perform it?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Hmm, female, I'm going to go with Megan.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Meg Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So you got Dolph as the writer, Meg as the performer
.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Who's the style, who's styling that person Like?
Who's style you taking from?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Tiana Taylor.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Tiana, yeah, tiana Taylor fire.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I love the tomboy look.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, with the Jordan ones Her body fire.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, her body fire.
That's more my style.
I feel more comfortable dressedlike that.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So Tiana Taylor, with the style, who is the producer
of the record?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Hmm, she Big Cuz, big Cuz All right, big Cousin, big
Cousin.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
All right, big Cousin , shout out to Big Cousin, shout
out to him.
So we got, we got Dolph writingit.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Meg performing it Uh-huh, tiana Taylor styling it
Uh-huh and Big Cousin producingit Made the artist.
That's a tough artist, rightthere, right, that's how you
build a test that's a tough allright before we get out of here.
You know we always got the gymclass, no matter where we at um
also shout out to kitchen.
The kitchen, dmv yes this dopearea.
(37:33):
Um for the podcast.
Um, what is a gym that youlearned from doing this album
that you can give to the otherartists out there female artists
, male artists, any artists outthere to store in their toolbox?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Keep going.
You're going to come across alot of complicated things in
your process that might feellike it's slowing you down or
you might feel like you don'twant to do it anymore, but just
to keep going.
Every, every day, literallysince I've started this project,
I have had so many downs and Ijust be like there's no way.
(38:10):
I'm gonna see this through,like I'm not gonna get this
project done, but like the moreI keep going, the more I see
it's getting accomplished off mychecklist, off my whiteboard,
and I'm like, all right, wealmost there.
Just keep pushing because youdon't know what the end is going
to be.
It could be a good ending LikeI'll come.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's a fact.
Keep going, Don't.
I think Pharrell said it.
I seen it on Instagram a coupleweeks ago.
He was like just keep going,Keep creating.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It sounds easier Because when you got life going
on and you trying to focus onlike your dream, it's like it
don't really reality, don't seemlike this.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
It's like where can I place my dream with all of this
, With?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
all of this.
You got bills, you got kids.
You got this coming to you leftand right Family, friends, foes
.
We got a lot of shit going on,so it's hard to keep going.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
But if you stay focused and just keep going like
, like see you through alright,so Taz we got May 23rd, the
listening party.
We got confessionals droppingwhen we dropping it.
May 23rd are we dropping it onMay 23rd too?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
the listening party and the drop is May 23rd album
drop.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
May 23rd.
Go get that.
Make sure y'all go get that.
Like comment, share, subscribeand follow me and follow Taz we
gonna put that down here.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's gonna be, it's gonna be down there.
It's gonna be down there likethat.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
L-o-v-e-t-a-z we gone like that.
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