April 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Our latest podcast, hosts Simone, Tany and Deb discuss “Here One Moment” from Liane Moriarty. This novel takes us on a short flight from Hobart to Sydney, Australia. After a delay and everyone is seated on the jam-packed flight, one passenger catches the attention of everyone.It’s not the newlywed couple with the bride still in her wedding dress, the mom and her toddler son, the well-dressed man anxiously checking his watch or the young flight attendant celebrating her birthday – it’s an older woman who walks down the aisle, making predictions about how and when everyone on board will die!Some ignore her, others take careful note of her prophecies, but her actions will leave a lasting impact on everyone aboard.
Months after that flights, some of those predictions come true, the media gets ahold of the story and panic sets in!
Months after that flights, some of those predictions come true, the media gets ahold of the story and panic sets in!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Join us and unwine with a good book. Welcome to
relaxing reads.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello rush Off of Tripped Down South.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah, so nice to be reunited with you both. It's
spent a long time, hasn't it, though? How is everyone good?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I can't believe it's uh, you know, I can't believe
spring is already here. And we're like, you know, getting
into summer almost. It's weird how fast it goes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
M Yeah, one minute we're wishing, like you know, the
never ending winter will just leave us.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I love this time of year though. It's just that
you get that optimistic feeling, you know. It's that okay
that the warmer days are ahead, the longer days are ahead.
You start to get excited, you know. And it's like
when you're coming out of December and you know you
have like January, February, March, you're like, oh, I can't
wait till we get to spring, and it's it's the
teas before summer. So it's kind of that, like, you know,
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feeling good time of years.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, it is absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I love the light we get in the evenings now,
you know, it's like, isn't outful looking out at seven
o'clock for me here in Edmonton, I'm like, it's still light.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can still go do stuff. And you get light
so much later.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I remember the one year I went to Edmonton, like
Vancouver sunset would be like nine and it was like ten,
ten thirty and it was still so bright.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's crazy, like the height of summer. Summer Here in Edmonton,
you can actually it's like it never really it kind
of goes really dark dusk and then it starts brightening
up again.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Like it's weird.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I mean, we're not in you know, we're not in
the Northwest territories, but it kind of feels like that
that Sometimes you don't really get complete darkness. Yeah, it
just kind of fades out and then it starts, you know,
then oh the sun is the sun is coming up
in the east again.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, like you have a little power snows and it's
oh there we go. Okay, good to go again.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, all right, are you ready
to start? Door?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Door? I don't even know how to do this, I know,
how does this work? Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Hi am Devin, Halifax, Hi am Simone and Vancouver, Hi
and Tanya and Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, our latest read here. One moment from Leanne Moriarty
takes us on a short flight from Hobart to Sydney, Australia.
After a delay and everyone is seated on the jam
packed flight, one passenger catches the attention of everyone. It's
not the newlywed couple with the bride still in her
wedding dress, the mom and her toddler son, or the
well dressed man anxiously checking his watch, or that young
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flight attendant celebrating her birthday. It's an older woman who
walks down the aisle to making predictions about how and
when everyone on board will die. Some ignore her, others
take careful note of her prophecies, but her actions will
leave a lashing impact on everyone on board. Months after
the flight, some of those predictions come true. The media
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gets a hold of the story and panic sets in
and here we go. How I think it's it's it's yeah,
it was a lot to digest, I think, but it was.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think it's something that that we all think about,
perhaps for a moment when before or you know, once
we get on board a plane. You look around at
everyone and you kind of think, what's going to happen, like,
who are we where? What's what's? How is this going
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to unravel?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What is everyone's story? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Like when you look around when you're on a flight,
you kind of try to try to figure out what
everyone's story is, right, And depending on where you're going,
could be a vacation destination, could just be a commuter
kind of a thing.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And uh, you know, for me.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
With this book, I I was heading out to Mexico
and and I actually have a fear of flying, so
I actually not take I know, I did not take
this book with me for that simple fact because I
just get weirded out. And sometimes, you know, when I'm
on a flight, you know, like I don't care about
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the takeoff and landing, which supposedly is the most you know,
difficult part of any flight.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I just don't like being up there because I feel
like I'm just sort of like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well what do I do now?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I look out the window, and then, you know, I
try not to look at the flight attendants because I
start thinking in my head, oh my gosh, does does
she look concerned?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Does he look concerned?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Or are they going back to the you know, so
I'm always looking for like these little signs, which is ridiculous,
but you know that's the thing about fear. It's not rational, right,
And so I didn't take this book with me, and honestly,
I was part of it. I was thinking, well, maybe
I don't want to read this book. But when I
got into it, I thought that uh Leanne is such
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a delightful writer, and once I got into the sink
of how she was writing, I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah. Same for me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It was you know, when I kind of read the
synopsis about it, I was like, this looks interesting, and
I really you know, it's a big book.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's close to five hundred pages.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So you know, you think that's a lot of information,
and there is a lot of information, but it did
keep the story I felt, kept moving, so there was
always something to you know, want to keep going for
because it was like what's going to happen?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Are these predictions going to come true?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was kind of that edge of your seat excitement,
but also not like a good excitement. It was like
almost like I really hope something doesn't happen to this
characters that I'm following that was predicted for this character.
So those were like a bit of those scary moments
because it was, Yeah, when she started telling people these things,
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it was scary. And I've never been to a psychic
or anything like that, never, and I just and I
think that could be part of it, is like what
if you get information you don't want to be told.
And I know many people have gone and they've gotten
really positive information. It's really helped them in the direction
they want to go in in life. But it's for me,
it's still I do have a fear of that whole
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side of death and what could potentially go wrong because
I think sometimes I just live in a bubble. But yeah,
like reality sometimes is it's a reality check is tough,
and I think this book did a great job of
kind of making you feel all the things maybe look
at your life and a lot of internal thoughts that
I think some of us have but we've never really shared,
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and that's kind of what was coming out in this book.
But I thought she did a great job with the
novel as well.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, me too. And I think when when you travel
or you know, all the things leading up to traveling,
the actual travel part, and then beyond when you're on
a holiday or vacation, you kind of, you know, check
do it a little checklist, whether it's in your in
your head, in your heart, or on a notepad about Okay,
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what's going on in my life, what's what's going on
at home, what's going on in my presence surrounding that
I can either just soak up and enjoy it for
the moment, or can I take this pause and apply
it to what perhaps I don't love about how you
know things are happening around me right now, or do
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I just kind of okay, let's just keep it where
we are, because things are good. They could be better,
but I don't want to push my luck. And I
think that when you do travel and you look around
at some of the people you encounter, you do compare
your life and it just makes you wonder about a
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whole lot more. It's almost, I don't know, sometimes when
you're on vacation, maybe you're experiencing that, Tanya, it's almost like,
you know, fantasy, like is this really happening? Like I
just feel so at peace in this moment because you're
away from the stressors and you can kind of toss
things to the side, and and I don't know, I
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always feel like I'm refreshed and I look at things differently.
My problem is I don't continue to take that with me.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know, you.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Get back into the regular routine again. It's wait a minute,
what was it that I wanted to change?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You get back into your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I did come back from my Vaca very refreshed, like
I actually felt like i'd been away. And of course
you go to a sun destination, you can't help but relax.
And you know, and I'm such a Whino. I love wine,
but honestly Mexico hash for wine.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, you know, I'm just like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
What I was Margarita girl, and I was quite happy
with that.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's what they do good. And I ate tons of.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Fish, tons of fish, you know, which is which is
really cool. So so talking about this book where you know,
this woman is sort of, you.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Know, predicting.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
How and when passengers on this plane are going to die,
and then we kind of we follow some of the
characters like, have you guys ever experienced have you ever
gone to a psychic?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Now, yes, I've gone to several. And I have some
relatives who I don't know if you call them clairvoyant
or what but they have seen things, and they've had
a number of dreams that I mean, I've had a
couple of dreams that have come true. One of them
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was a job loss. Quite a number of years ago.
I was working in this industry, working for a different company,
and we kind of joked in the office about because
it seemed like there were a lot of layoffs happening,
and we're, oh, you know, who's going to be next?
Kind of you know, just joking around but still wondering.
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And a couple of weeks later, I had a dream
and I came in the next day in that same
group I was talking to. I said, remember how we
were talking about it. I said, I had a dream
last night that I'm going to lose my job and
this is how it's going to be play out. And
they're like, oh, no, no, no no. Well a week
after that, I lost my job and I came into
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the office and it was the same people encountering me,
and one of the women who was the assistant to
the GM said, as soon as I heard, I thought
of your dream. So I don't know where that comes from,
but I did have a psychic tell me once to
if I had plans to go skydiving, that she would
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not recommend it. That week, I was playing with skydiving
with a couple of friends. They ended up going. But
when a psychic tells you something like that, it's okay,
similar to the characters that are told like this is
your date, this is how much time you have, and
how it's going to happen. Even if you don't one
hundred percent believe it, it's still on your mind and
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you're thinking, you know, I'm just going to be cautious.
Did I really want to go skydiving? Is it worth it?
One of my doing it for But it's so I
didn't end up going.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It's so interesting because you know, like when you get
that early prediction, like like you did like okay, don't
go skydiving, you're like not going to do it. But
then there's some people if you're getting a prediction that
you're going to live to one hundred years old, similar
to that little boy in the book where it was
like he started living dangerously because you might feel like, oh,
I got lots of time and you might do things
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you typically don't do, But then it's like what if
your fate changes and then something else happens. That's the
other side of it, because yeah, like you know in
that book when she predicted the accident with her husband
and the two friends, but then it didn't happen, but
then later we find out.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Later it did. Yeah, yeah, like it's.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Just it's so crazy. But yeah, And Tanya, have you
gone to a psychic or a clairvoyant?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I actually have.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I actually do think that there are people in this
world who feel things and that can see things that
we don't see, Like I really do. Where do you
call them? Like what devsaid of clairvoyant or whatever. I
do think that there are people more in touch with
the world or that other part of the world.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't know that I can't see.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Going back to sort of my fear of flying, like
I was in grade seven and a good friend of
mine at the time she said, let me read your palm.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So grade seven, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I'm telling you this is like a fifty eight year
old woman now, But like at grade seven, she looked
at my palm and she said, oh, Tanya, you're going
to die in a plane crash when you're thirty. So
I have carried that like it's ridiculous. Oh, I've carried
that in my entire life, and maybe that's where my
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fear of flying comes from.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Like she had no, she's not you know, I do
still know her.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
She lives on the island now, and it's like, you know,
it's just a silly girl thing, but yet it has
you know, I say to myself at one point, like, fine,
I'm never gonna fly, you know, Like some of these
characters are like, Okay, well I'm just gonna quit my
job and go to Tasmania and then I'm not going
to you know, die in.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
A workplace accident. You know.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
There's that whole thing about fate. We cannot be fought,
and that's what Sherry's mom said to her, and so
you start to think. It's like, well, I don't want
everything to be fate. I don't want to believe in that,
because then if that is what it is, then you
don't have a choice. And I really do believe that
we do have a choice. So for me, it was like,
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you know, Tanya, you will never go to all the
places that you want to go if you don't get on.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
A flight, like that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
But it's there, it's at the back of my mind
and I think about one of the characters. I think
it's Susan Sue, who Sherry said.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Was going to die of pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So she ended up getting all these tasks and blah
blah blah, and then she ended up, you know, getting
really sick and she thought this is it right, and
then they find out it's just a virus. But the
end of that particular story is that she's kind of
let it go. She's not going to die a pancreatic cancer,
but she can't keep watching.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
She can't stories can't stop watching the Facebook page, yeah,
to see what's happening. So in a way, it's still there.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And I think that's what happens when you go to
psychics and maybe they tell you something. It's like my brain,
I can't get rid of it, Like it's just always present.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's like this little voice, you know, well that's saying stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And it's like I'm so at odds with like I
am at odds with death. I am not good someone.
I'm sort of like you. I just want to live
in a bubble and I just I just can't imagine
not being you know, and of a friend of mine
who's like, well, how do you know, it's just like
not another life form.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm like, I don't want to hear about that, I know,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So so it's this book affected me and that I
have a hard time with death, so this affected me,
and that, you know, these people have to deal with
these things that they're being told.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
And oh and the whole fear thing and the psycho thing.
I don't know. There was a lot in this book
that made it difficult for me to read.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But then, like I said at the beginning, I actually
enjoyed the writing, and I actually found Sherry to be
quite an adorable narrator or the main person in this book.
She had quite the life. And I think that's kind
of it too, is that, you know, we all talk
about regrets. There's tons of stuff on social about regrets,
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and it's like, just live your life, Go live your life,
you know, And I think that's what she did. You know,
she went and lived her life, and she had a
whole bunch of adventures on the way. I think because
she took chances, you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Know, so, and that what life's all about. You have
to take a chance, right, mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, it's funny we started out not liking her at all,
Like she was the death lady, this woman on the plane,
well dressed but yet just standing there pointing at people
and saying all these things, and they're trying to get
a wrangle on her, and that the you know, this
is the flight attendants trying to be like what is
this woman doing? But you're right, like once we got
into her story and you see that she's not a
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bad person. You know, she just has this that intuition
that day and she was going through like a mental
health crisis and it just kind of blurted out and
she kind of later explains her reasoning for why she
was thinking a certain way, but yeah, she was.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
She turned out to be like a character.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You essentially start to understand why she is the way
she is, and she's not a bad person really at all.
But yeah, I came to really, you know, enjoy her.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Tanya, what you say about just just death and living
your life to the fullest, Like I lost my dad
when when I was quite young, and ever since that day,
I do I do really grasp the you know, the day,
I really do do spontaneous things and people sometimes will
ask me why I am the way I am, And
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I think because that lesson taught me and my family
to just you only have a certain amount of time
and you really have to live it. And I think
if you're not, you know, sometimes you can't always make
the choices you want to make. But if you're in
the general realm of like, am I happy? What can
I do to improve my happiness? You know, if I
God forbid was to go tomorrow or in six months
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or a year, Am I doing the things I want
to be doing? Am I spending time with the people
I really want to be around? And I think books
like this are just a reminder that you might live forever,
but the people around you might not. And so what
are you doing in your day to day that kind
of brings you joy? And it doesn't have to be
big things, but it's you know, trying to have a
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day where you just feel like, h well, this day
kind of sucked.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's like, well, what is the energy you're going to
bring to the next day? What?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And I think you have the ability to change it.
And that's the one thing was about my dad is
my dad was just a fun, loving person, live life
to the fullest every day.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So it was like short life, but like fun, good life.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
And that's why I think, you know, for my family,
it's that whole way of being we really like pivoted to.
Every day is not promised, so what can you do
and how can you just be living your best life?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Essentially?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, I love that your dad. Yeah, it's like you're
you're living for him, like he didn't get to enjoy this,
but I'm going to. And you know, his spirit or
energy is always with you, so I'm sure in some
form he's being you know, he's able to take that
as well. And I think it's you know, no matter
what news you get, Like for me, the job loss,
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initially it hit me like I've never been hit. It
was you know, it was a loss, so it felt
like it was a bit of a death for me,
and death I've experienced as well, like my dad and
other relatives and young friends. But it's how you take
that and respond to it, you know. That year I
lost my job was the worst but also the best
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in some very strange ways. I was able to travel
and spend more time with my family, family, with some
extended family, and that's the year that I went to
New Zealand and Australia and I met all kinds of
interesting people. I did get another job that led me
to another job. And it's so interesting how you can
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be at the bottom of whatever that is you know,
and feel at your lowest, but as you start to
see one thing that appears to be wonderful and makes
you feel a little better each day like one step,
baby steps right, every day is a new day and
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a new opportunity to see where that light is and
how do I get to it? And how do I
give myself more.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I think it's a constant struggle. I think, you know,
we all hear the you know, these people always talk
about like you only get one life, you only get
one life, like you know, if you're not happy, pick
up and do something. But sometimes it's not as easy, right,
It's not that easy to just go and just.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Change your life.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's hard work, right, I mean, deb you had to,
you know, your world was turned upside down and ended
up having to go do other things. Right, But you
traveled and you reconnected. And I think sometimes it takes
something like that almost for some people to just sort
of get it. Like I mean, I do tell myself
like you only got one you know, but yet I'm
the type of person that I don't know. I have
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to really kind of be knocked on top of the
head to do something right.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And it's a struggle.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
And I found this book, if anything, it is you know,
it's examining a lot of characters. They all have very
different lives, and you know, they're all going through, well,
what if this is my last day?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well, what I do differently? And so they're asking themselves
those questions. We're asking ourselves those questions as we're reading
the book, and I think that's one of the great
things about it is that it's just sort of reinforcing
that idea of look, this is like, don't take life
too seriously.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Just go after what you want, you know, be brave,
Be brave.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And it's interesting the way they all kind of bonded
with the Facebook page. Years back, our family went to
Cabo San Lucas and we got caught in a tropical
storm and it was terrible, like the hotel flooded. It
was like one of the worst experiences ever. But it's
almost like the bonded by trauma for those of us
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who were there and wanted to kind of let people
know that this resort didn't take the proper considerations into
place before a tropical storm hits like other resorts did
to keep their guests safe. We created a Facebook group
and we kind of bonded in that group, and we're
able to kind of figure out how to get the
word out, so people were kind of aware that this
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could happen and maybe not to choose a resort like
that or something like that, and we still kind of
message in there. So it's like we're kind of bonded
by something that happens, because so often you go on
a trip or an airplane, you don't have any connection
with anybody on it or a resort, and you all
go about your ways. But then when something like this happens,
there are people you want to stay connected with, and
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because you've all experienced something together that was like not
of the norm. And that reminded me a lot of
this plain situation that they were all trying to find
each other, because it was like, hey, I'm not the
only one who's like feeling a certain way or with
something that we went through. There are other people feeling
the same way. And when you kind of have a
collaborative community, it's really nice.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, yeah, I liked in this book how
like there's those connections. But I liked how the author
made some of the characters connected m and you don't
find out until.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
The end of the book that they're like, oh.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
This person's connected to this person. This is a you know,
a parent or whatever. And I thought that was really
lovely to take some of those characters and connect them
up at the end. And yeah, really want to study
on the human spirit.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It is absolutely I think Danny you had mentioned, you know,
one of those stories was the child the well Timmy.
It was Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. But you know, as a parent,
if you hear that your child you're going to lose
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your child at a very young age, you know, what
do you do? And I think that the dad thought,
okay that you know, his wife, the mom is going
a little overboard. It's okay. But she made sure that
her little guy, you know, got the swim lessons because
it was supposed to be a drowning according to the
death lady, that this is how it was going to
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go down, and she just kept kept him in the pool.
And then years later we find out about Timmy, and
I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Want to throw it out there, but the Death Lay
Death Lady was the biggest cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, yes, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Was there a certain storyline or character you felt kind
of connected to, because I mean there were six characters.
A lot of people got, you know, their predictions on
the plane, but then we kind of follow the story
of of six main characters. Was there a storyline you
really enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I liked all the sex that what's her name Allegra
was having with hot hot pilot Johnny.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
She was in this relationship only for sex and thought
that he was this arrogant, you know, pilot, and he
ended up being like a really cool guy.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I don't know one story I connect. I liked them
all kind of evenly. I guess Sherry I really loved.
I really loved Ned her third husband, and I just
love that they you know, Sherry's mum when she was
when she was dying, she said, you know, you something
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about you know you'll have You've already met your the
love of your life.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And she's like, what do you know?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I liked Jake and I like, you know, and then
she finds out that, you know, she meets this guy
at a at a random party and finds out that
he was in her university class in mathematics, and it
ends up being sort of he ended up being the
love of her life late in her life.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think they got thirty five years. But I just
love how she you know, she'd been through so much
and then.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
She she randomly meets this guy who she'd met when
she was a university and then they get together and
they travel the world and they're just like all over
the place, and I just I loved how I just
loved that relationship. I loved reading about that relationship. So
I think that was the best part for me.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, she was and I really loved when it was
like a girl on a plane with the letter B
will be there for you when you need her the most.
And that part at the end was like wow. And
like you mentioned, Tanny, it was the interconnectivity of the characters,
but that part was really special too. And yeah, and
maybe it's because she couldn't quite per her own death.
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She was living, you know, and anything could happen to
her in any of those situations, but it didn't.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, and it's kind of interesting we find out that
that that Sherry is an actuary, right, So in a way,
once you find that out, you kind of go because
she didn't say you will she she would say I
expect or something, right, I expect.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Her you will die, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
And that's sort of what an actuary does. They They
they weigh the variables of all of these events and
they go, well, we expect, given the data, that this
is going to happen, right, Yeah, so you kind of
she lives in a mathematical world. I thought it was
interesting that she said that she had her and Ned
had a beautiful relationship with Jill and Bert.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Makes me laugh away.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
And the four of them were like this, this foursome,
and she said they were like a square, a perfect
mathematical equation or something. And I thought, she lives in
that sort of mathematical world. She always has, you know,
so I think she's always sort of looking at how
the numbers right, the numbers, the numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, I wish I had her. As she was
explaining everything, you know, in her mathematical mind, I kept thinking,
why couldn't I have had her in high school? Because
I have never been a math person, but I enjoyed
all the formulas, and it's true to life. You know,
everything has a scientific formula if you if you break
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everything down, and the way she broke it all down
made one sense to me, and math never makes sense
to me.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I am not a
math person at all, but that was definitely it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
It was until I hit grade ten.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I got like I didn't have to write finals because
I was so good in math. And then I hit
grade ten and like all everything was lost.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I actually had to like get out of school.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I actually went back to school after graduating because I
didn't get my advance because I failed math of all things,
and I had to get a tutor to help me
with math.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And then I went and got my advanced diploma after that.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
But it's like, wow, how can you go from like
not having to write finals to like completely you know,
screwing everything up in high school?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I guess that's just hormones.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, right, Lucky, That's exactly what it is. Yeah, it's
as we go back and forth. I was, you know,
at times I was having a moment, I think because
I was I was trying to do other things while
I was into the book. So there were times when
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I was a little confused, But it made sense as well,
because you're trying to figure out the characters on the
plane on your flight, right we you know, we don't
if we were not sitting with these people, these folks
and talking to them during our flight, then we don't
learn much about them. So I think in my mind,
I'm like, oh, yeah, if I met up with them
at this resort or at this you know, the bar
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in the in the airport, then maybe I'd know a
little more instead of just judging them for the way
that they rushed onto the plane and you know, stuffed
their bag somewhere. But I think it's first impressions about
all of these characters. And you know, first impressions can
mean a lot to a lot of people. But then
once you start unraveling or peeling back the layers. And
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this woman, like I felt the same way when she
was walking down the aisle, I thought, how rude, how odd?
How what is this woman all about? And yeah, she
turns out to be such a lovable character and so adventurous,
and she had like so many I think elders in
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our life that we meet or that we have in
our family. Once you hear their stories a lot over
the years, from you know, when you're a kid, Like
I've heard that before, but then you hear it again
because you're really listening to the words. It's not just
a story. So I love the way that we were
introduced to her in this kind of abrupt way, but
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then we went back and it was like she took
us into her life and so this is how it
rolled out.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It just makes me think, you know, we're talking about
meeting people on vacation and sometimes you know, you're letting
loose a little bit. It just makes me think, what
if people lie because you don't know these people. What
if they tell you a story that's not necessarily true
about them or where they live and what they do.
Like I wonder if there's people that just kind of
want to be someone different when they're on vacation, Like
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that just came to my mind. I don't do that,
but I just think, you know, for people who are
a little more adventurous, you don't really know. Wow, we
would never know. Yeah, we would never know. A random stranger,
they could say anything.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
You're sitting at a pool and someone strikes up a
conversation with you, Like how would you.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You don't know the real names, really, what city they're from,
what they do for work. They might tell you this information,
you might think, wow, that's really neat. I wish I
could have their life. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
That what if it's not us.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I've never thought of that, but I bet there are
so many that we've met and that that was the case. Yeah,
because I don't know if you and your your girlfriends
when you were in your twentieson when we started going
to the bars downtown, there were a few of us
that would use a different name, yeah, just to kind
of like, okay, keep safe and let's not give out,
you know, all of our personal information unless it's you know,
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it's going really well.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Some friends like created a different character or a different
persona just because it's like, okay, this is a different time.
And then we go back to campus or wherever we
were living at the time, and okay, we're back. Everybody's
say back safely and and and what a fun night.
It turns out to be well.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And in this book that podcast guy, he like there
was a character that that said that you know, he
was on the flight, but as it turned out, he
was lying.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I know, he was just trying to get you know,
I was trying to remember him. I was like, wait,
where was he? Did I miss that?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I thought that too, I thought I don't remember him,
and then you find out that, yeah, he wasn't on
the flight at all. So yeah, there's people lying, you know,
about who they are, what they do, where they are,
all that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Faking your own death for likee Yeah, yes, I know
that's a bit too much lying.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
There's a lot of stuff happening, like TikTok and you know,
all kinds of social media what do they call.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Themselves, influencers.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, influencers are looking for those likes and those you know,
those ads, and so perhaps there's a lot of that
going on. I liked how it was very present. There's
a lot of things that were very present and relatable
to what's happening right now in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
There was I think at the very beginning of the
book which actually made me laugh. It was kind of
before I started getting really into it. But I think
it's like page five or something. It talks about, you know,
all the things Sherry did not do when she got
on the flight. So it's all these crazy things that
happen on flights, and it just made me laugh. It's like, no,
she didn't have sex with another passenger. No she didn't
light up a cigarette like it was nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
No she did. I thought, Oh my goodness, and I'm
going yep, yep, yep, yeah, like.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
What those flight attendants have to go through. Oh my goodness,
I don't I don't think I could be captured on
a big tube in the sky and have to deal
with people like those flight attendants had to deal with
some of the people on that plane.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, because it's all about safety. Like once the door
is closed on a plane, it's not about entertaining us
or you know, servicing us. It's about like, how am
I going to get these people? Like how am I
going to keep them safe with all their antics going on?
When I have to focus on what's going what else
is going on? You know how much longer before we end?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
And it seemed like you always would see those characters.
There's always going to be the mom with multiple kids.
There's always going to be a crying baby, there's always
going to be an elder couple on the plane. There's
always gonna be like maybe a newlywed couple or a
hot couple like it. It's like you can every flight
you get on, you just see the mix of people
around you and you're.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Like, yep, this is this is the group of who
we are.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's just it's just so fascinating that you think that,
like you are with these people in the sky for
such a long period of time and then you all
just go your separate ways, and it's like, how many
flights could you potentially have been on with the same
people and connect it again?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But you have no idea. You don't know them, you
don't remember them.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
It's just the way like the universe works in our
and where we are at what time in our journey,
and those kind of things always trip me up. But
I don't Yeah, I don't know if I would want
anyone to predict my time. I don't know if it
would change things for me. Like, but I feel like
if someone put fear in you, I don't know if
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you'd want to live with that fear. If someone just
gave you kind of like a general Hey, I don't
think you're in the right career. Maybe you want to
pivot or you know, if if it was you're having
relationship issues and they're like, I see someone else for you,
maybe that kind of info would want to know, but
not like age of death, cause a.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Death, No, thank you, I see you leaving, I see
you leaving, leaving.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
What was it the mother that kept saying that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
With all her readings like I see you leaving.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I see yes, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, her mother
and her anti anti man.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh any pat Yeah yeah yeah. I thought she was
a great character.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
So many great characters in this book, and I think
they're all like they're all relatable, Like they're all relatable.
I think anybody who reads this book would be able
to go, yep, yep, I know that person, or that's
happened to me, or I've I've had a reading, or
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Somebody who you know.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I think there's a you know, a lot in this
book for everyone who's going to pick it up and
read it.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, And we were saying Leanne Moriarty like she's she
wrote big Little lies, and of course that turned into
a very popular TV show. I haven't read that book,
but I could see this into some kind of a
TV series or a movie, because it would just be like,
so interesting to see all these lives intertwined and then
how it all ends up.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But that would be really cool if that ever happens.
Who would play Sherry? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So many different versions of her Meryl Streep. Could it
be her?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I don't know, because she's got that whole Devil wears
Prada in the beginning vibe where she's like fashionably dressed
and she's got the short hair and the piercing eyes.
But then later we got to find that the softer
side of her or Yeah, it'd be interesting to see.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
And I just have to go out on a side
note here. I love the fact that that she's seeing
Martin Short.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I just love that couple.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I do like could find you know, Meryl Streep and
Martin Short. You're like, what, but but hey he's funny,
Yeah he is, and women like funny, right, women love funny?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Could he play one of her her love?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yes, he could be. It's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, because they did that that, you know, when
she was with Ned. They seem to have such an
incredible time together. And when you see Merrill and Martin
out together, they see you know, even if they're supposed
to be hiding whatever relationship kind of whatevership they have,
they always look like they're having a good time.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like anyway, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But all in all, the great read.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It was, Yeah, lots lots to think about, whether we
follow along with the psychic's predictions or prophecies or just
kind of keep on going. But gives us something to
think about. I think that we part of me thinks
that we all have a number. But you know, then
you look at you know, when when younger people are lost,
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it's like, no, I don't think it was their time.
I think it was it was what was happening around them.
And I think there are certain circumstances that you know,
things can change. But yeah, life is Life is all
about questions.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I know it is. And sometimes it's easy to get
up there and it. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Sometimes we're on the hamster wheel and we're on autopilot
and I can find this happening, you know, with just
like everyday schedules my life. We're kids, and then sometimes
you're like, get off the wheel, go do something for yourself,
break the pattern. A little bit, and I think that's
when you just got to kind of recheck in with yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah. Wine night with the ladies sometimes helps, Yes, not.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
In Mexico where the bad mind is no no.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right, then we do the margaritas.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, it's margarita's all the time.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Thank you once again for joining us on another episode
of Relaxing Reads until next time.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Thank you for kicking back and relaxing with us. We
hope you'll join us again on Relaxing Reads.
Join us and unwine with a good book. Welcome to
relaxing reads.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello rush Off of Tripped Down South.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah, so nice to be reunited with you both. It's
spent a long time, hasn't it, though? How is everyone good?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I can't believe it's uh, you know, I can't believe
spring is already here. And we're like, you know, getting
into summer almost. It's weird how fast it goes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
M Yeah, one minute we're wishing, like you know, the
never ending winter will just leave us.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I love this time of year though. It's just that
you get that optimistic feeling, you know. It's that okay
that the warmer days are ahead, the longer days are ahead.
You start to get excited, you know. And it's like
when you're coming out of December and you know you
have like January, February, March, you're like, oh, I can't
wait till we get to spring, and it's it's the
teas before summer. So it's kind of that, like, you know,
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feeling good time of years.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, it is absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I love the light we get in the evenings now,
you know, it's like, isn't outful looking out at seven
o'clock for me here in Edmonton, I'm like, it's still light.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can still go do stuff. And you get light
so much later.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I remember the one year I went to Edmonton, like
Vancouver sunset would be like nine and it was like ten,
ten thirty and it was still so bright.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's crazy, like the height of summer. Summer Here in Edmonton,
you can actually it's like it never really it kind
of goes really dark dusk and then it starts brightening
up again.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Like it's weird.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I mean, we're not in you know, we're not in
the Northwest territories, but it kind of feels like that
that Sometimes you don't really get complete darkness. Yeah, it
just kind of fades out and then it starts, you know,
then oh the sun is the sun is coming up
in the east again.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, like you have a little power snows and it's
oh there we go. Okay, good to go again.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, all right, are you ready
to start? Door?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Door? I don't even know how to do this, I know,
how does this work? Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Hi am Devin, Halifax, Hi am Simone and Vancouver, Hi
and Tanya and Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, our latest read here. One moment from Leanne Moriarty
takes us on a short flight from Hobart to Sydney, Australia.
After a delay and everyone is seated on the jam
packed flight, one passenger catches the attention of everyone. It's
not the newlywed couple with the bride still in her
wedding dress, the mom and her toddler son, or the
well dressed man anxiously checking his watch, or that young
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flight attendant celebrating her birthday. It's an older woman who
walks down the aisle to making predictions about how and
when everyone on board will die. Some ignore her, others
take careful note of her prophecies, but her actions will
leave a lashing impact on everyone on board. Months after
the flight, some of those predictions come true. The media
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gets a hold of the story and panic sets in
and here we go. How I think it's it's it's yeah,
it was a lot to digest, I think, but it was.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think it's something that that we all think about,
perhaps for a moment when before or you know, once
we get on board a plane. You look around at
everyone and you kind of think, what's going to happen, like,
who are we where? What's what's? How is this going
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to unravel?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What is everyone's story? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Like when you look around when you're on a flight,
you kind of try to try to figure out what
everyone's story is, right, And depending on where you're going,
could be a vacation destination, could just be a commuter
kind of a thing.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And uh, you know, for me.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
With this book, I I was heading out to Mexico
and and I actually have a fear of flying, so
I actually not take I know, I did not take
this book with me for that simple fact because I
just get weirded out. And sometimes, you know, when I'm
on a flight, you know, like I don't care about
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the takeoff and landing, which supposedly is the most you know,
difficult part of any flight.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I just don't like being up there because I feel
like I'm just sort of like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well what do I do now?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I look out the window, and then, you know, I
try not to look at the flight attendants because I
start thinking in my head, oh my gosh, does does
she look concerned?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Does he look concerned?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Or are they going back to the you know, so
I'm always looking for like these little signs, which is ridiculous,
but you know that's the thing about fear. It's not rational, right,
And so I didn't take this book with me, and honestly,
I was part of it. I was thinking, well, maybe
I don't want to read this book. But when I
got into it, I thought that uh Leanne is such
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a delightful writer, and once I got into the sink
of how she was writing, I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah. Same for me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It was you know, when I kind of read the
synopsis about it, I was like, this looks interesting, and
I really you know, it's a big book.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's close to five hundred pages.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So you know, you think that's a lot of information,
and there is a lot of information, but it did
keep the story I felt, kept moving, so there was
always something to you know, want to keep going for
because it was like what's going to happen?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Are these predictions going to come true?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was kind of that edge of your seat excitement,
but also not like a good excitement. It was like
almost like I really hope something doesn't happen to this
characters that I'm following that was predicted for this character.
So those were like a bit of those scary moments
because it was, Yeah, when she started telling people these things,
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it was scary. And I've never been to a psychic
or anything like that, never, and I just and I
think that could be part of it, is like what
if you get information you don't want to be told.
And I know many people have gone and they've gotten
really positive information. It's really helped them in the direction
they want to go in in life. But it's for me,
it's still I do have a fear of that whole
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side of death and what could potentially go wrong because
I think sometimes I just live in a bubble. But yeah,
like reality sometimes is it's a reality check is tough,
and I think this book did a great job of
kind of making you feel all the things maybe look
at your life and a lot of internal thoughts that
I think some of us have but we've never really shared,
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and that's kind of what was coming out in this book.
But I thought she did a great job with the
novel as well.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, me too. And I think when when you travel
or you know, all the things leading up to traveling,
the actual travel part, and then beyond when you're on
a holiday or vacation, you kind of, you know, check
do it a little checklist, whether it's in your in
your head, in your heart, or on a notepad about Okay,
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what's going on in my life, what's what's going on
at home, what's going on in my presence surrounding that
I can either just soak up and enjoy it for
the moment, or can I take this pause and apply
it to what perhaps I don't love about how you
know things are happening around me right now, or do
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I just kind of okay, let's just keep it where
we are, because things are good. They could be better,
but I don't want to push my luck. And I
think that when you do travel and you look around
at some of the people you encounter, you do compare
your life and it just makes you wonder about a
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whole lot more. It's almost, I don't know, sometimes when
you're on vacation, maybe you're experiencing that, Tanya, it's almost like,
you know, fantasy, like is this really happening? Like I
just feel so at peace in this moment because you're
away from the stressors and you can kind of toss
things to the side, and and I don't know, I
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always feel like I'm refreshed and I look at things differently.
My problem is I don't continue to take that with me.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know, you.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Get back into the regular routine again. It's wait a minute,
what was it that I wanted to change?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You get back into your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I did come back from my Vaca very refreshed, like
I actually felt like i'd been away. And of course
you go to a sun destination, you can't help but relax.
And you know, and I'm such a Whino. I love wine,
but honestly Mexico hash for wine.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, you know, I'm just like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
What I was Margarita girl, and I was quite happy
with that.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's what they do good. And I ate tons of.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Fish, tons of fish, you know, which is which is
really cool. So so talking about this book where you know,
this woman is sort of, you.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Know, predicting.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
How and when passengers on this plane are going to die,
and then we kind of we follow some of the
characters like, have you guys ever experienced have you ever
gone to a psychic?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Now, yes, I've gone to several. And I have some
relatives who I don't know if you call them clairvoyant
or what but they have seen things, and they've had
a number of dreams that I mean, I've had a
couple of dreams that have come true. One of them
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was a job loss. Quite a number of years ago.
I was working in this industry, working for a different company,
and we kind of joked in the office about because
it seemed like there were a lot of layoffs happening,
and we're, oh, you know, who's going to be next?
Kind of you know, just joking around but still wondering.
(09:46):
And a couple of weeks later, I had a dream
and I came in the next day in that same
group I was talking to. I said, remember how we
were talking about it. I said, I had a dream
last night that I'm going to lose my job and
this is how it's going to be play out. And
they're like, oh, no, no, no no. Well a week
after that, I lost my job and I came into
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the office and it was the same people encountering me,
and one of the women who was the assistant to
the GM said, as soon as I heard, I thought
of your dream. So I don't know where that comes from,
but I did have a psychic tell me once to
if I had plans to go skydiving, that she would
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not recommend it. That week, I was playing with skydiving
with a couple of friends. They ended up going. But
when a psychic tells you something like that, it's okay,
similar to the characters that are told like this is
your date, this is how much time you have, and
how it's going to happen. Even if you don't one
hundred percent believe it, it's still on your mind and
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you're thinking, you know, I'm just going to be cautious.
Did I really want to go skydiving? Is it worth it?
One of my doing it for But it's so I
didn't end up going.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It's so interesting because you know, like when you get
that early prediction, like like you did like okay, don't
go skydiving, you're like not going to do it. But
then there's some people if you're getting a prediction that
you're going to live to one hundred years old, similar
to that little boy in the book where it was
like he started living dangerously because you might feel like, oh,
I got lots of time and you might do things
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you typically don't do, But then it's like what if
your fate changes and then something else happens. That's the
other side of it, because yeah, like you know in
that book when she predicted the accident with her husband
and the two friends, but then it didn't happen, but
then later we find out.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Later it did. Yeah, yeah, like it's.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Just it's so crazy. But yeah, And Tanya, have you
gone to a psychic or a clairvoyant?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I actually have.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I actually do think that there are people in this
world who feel things and that can see things that
we don't see, Like I really do. Where do you
call them? Like what devsaid of clairvoyant or whatever. I
do think that there are people more in touch with
the world or that other part of the world.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't know that I can't see.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Going back to sort of my fear of flying, like
I was in grade seven and a good friend of
mine at the time she said, let me read your palm.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So grade seven, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I'm telling you this is like a fifty eight year
old woman now, But like at grade seven, she looked
at my palm and she said, oh, Tanya, you're going
to die in a plane crash when you're thirty. So
I have carried that like it's ridiculous. Oh, I've carried
that in my entire life, and maybe that's where my
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fear of flying comes from.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Like she had no, she's not you know, I do
still know her.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
She lives on the island now, and it's like, you know,
it's just a silly girl thing, but yet it has
you know, I say to myself at one point, like, fine,
I'm never gonna fly, you know, Like some of these
characters are like, Okay, well I'm just gonna quit my
job and go to Tasmania and then I'm not going
to you know, die in.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
A workplace accident. You know.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
There's that whole thing about fate. We cannot be fought,
and that's what Sherry's mom said to her, and so
you start to think. It's like, well, I don't want
everything to be fate. I don't want to believe in that,
because then if that is what it is, then you
don't have a choice. And I really do believe that
we do have a choice. So for me, it was like,
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you know, Tanya, you will never go to all the
places that you want to go if you don't get on.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
A flight, like that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
But it's there, it's at the back of my mind
and I think about one of the characters. I think
it's Susan Sue, who Sherry said.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Was going to die of pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So she ended up getting all these tasks and blah
blah blah, and then she ended up, you know, getting
really sick and she thought this is it right, and
then they find out it's just a virus. But the
end of that particular story is that she's kind of
let it go. She's not going to die a pancreatic cancer,
but she can't keep watching.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
She can't stories can't stop watching the Facebook page, yeah,
to see what's happening. So in a way, it's still there.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And I think that's what happens when you go to
psychics and maybe they tell you something. It's like my brain,
I can't get rid of it, Like it's just always present.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's like this little voice, you know, well that's saying stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And it's like I'm so at odds with like I
am at odds with death. I am not good someone.
I'm sort of like you. I just want to live
in a bubble and I just I just can't imagine
not being you know, and of a friend of mine
who's like, well, how do you know, it's just like
not another life form.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm like, I don't want to hear about that, I know,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So so it's this book affected me and that I
have a hard time with death, so this affected me,
and that, you know, these people have to deal with
these things that they're being told.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
And oh and the whole fear thing and the psycho thing.
I don't know. There was a lot in this book
that made it difficult for me to read.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But then, like I said at the beginning, I actually
enjoyed the writing, and I actually found Sherry to be
quite an adorable narrator or the main person in this book.
She had quite the life. And I think that's kind
of it too, is that, you know, we all talk
about regrets. There's tons of stuff on social about regrets,
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and it's like, just live your life, Go live your life,
you know, And I think that's what she did. You know,
she went and lived her life, and she had a
whole bunch of adventures on the way. I think because
she took chances, you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Know, so, and that what life's all about. You have
to take a chance, right, mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, it's funny we started out not liking her at all,
Like she was the death lady, this woman on the plane,
well dressed but yet just standing there pointing at people
and saying all these things, and they're trying to get
a wrangle on her, and that the you know, this
is the flight attendants trying to be like what is
this woman doing? But you're right, like once we got
into her story and you see that she's not a
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bad person. You know, she just has this that intuition
that day and she was going through like a mental
health crisis and it just kind of blurted out and
she kind of later explains her reasoning for why she
was thinking a certain way, but yeah, she was.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
She turned out to be like a character.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You essentially start to understand why she is the way
she is, and she's not a bad person really at all.
But yeah, I came to really, you know, enjoy her.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Tanya, what you say about just just death and living
your life to the fullest, Like I lost my dad
when when I was quite young, and ever since that day,
I do I do really grasp the you know, the day,
I really do do spontaneous things and people sometimes will
ask me why I am the way I am, And
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I think because that lesson taught me and my family
to just you only have a certain amount of time
and you really have to live it. And I think
if you're not, you know, sometimes you can't always make
the choices you want to make. But if you're in
the general realm of like, am I happy? What can
I do to improve my happiness? You know, if I
God forbid was to go tomorrow or in six months
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or a year, Am I doing the things I want
to be doing? Am I spending time with the people
I really want to be around? And I think books
like this are just a reminder that you might live forever,
but the people around you might not. And so what
are you doing in your day to day that kind
of brings you joy? And it doesn't have to be
big things, but it's you know, trying to have a
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day where you just feel like, h well, this day
kind of sucked.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's like, well, what is the energy you're going to
bring to the next day? What?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And I think you have the ability to change it.
And that's the one thing was about my dad is
my dad was just a fun, loving person, live life
to the fullest every day.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So it was like short life, but like fun, good life.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
And that's why I think, you know, for my family,
it's that whole way of being we really like pivoted to.
Every day is not promised, so what can you do
and how can you just be living your best life?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Essentially?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, I love that your dad. Yeah, it's like you're
you're living for him, like he didn't get to enjoy this,
but I'm going to. And you know, his spirit or
energy is always with you, so I'm sure in some
form he's being you know, he's able to take that
as well. And I think it's you know, no matter
what news you get, Like for me, the job loss,
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initially it hit me like I've never been hit. It
was you know, it was a loss, so it felt
like it was a bit of a death for me,
and death I've experienced as well, like my dad and
other relatives and young friends. But it's how you take
that and respond to it, you know. That year I
lost my job was the worst but also the best
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in some very strange ways. I was able to travel
and spend more time with my family, family, with some
extended family, and that's the year that I went to
New Zealand and Australia and I met all kinds of
interesting people. I did get another job that led me
to another job. And it's so interesting how you can
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be at the bottom of whatever that is you know,
and feel at your lowest, but as you start to
see one thing that appears to be wonderful and makes
you feel a little better each day like one step,
baby steps right, every day is a new day and
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a new opportunity to see where that light is and
how do I get to it? And how do I
give myself more.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I think it's a constant struggle. I think, you know,
we all hear the you know, these people always talk
about like you only get one life, you only get
one life, like you know, if you're not happy, pick
up and do something. But sometimes it's not as easy, right,
It's not that easy to just go and just.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Change your life.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's hard work, right, I mean, deb you had to,
you know, your world was turned upside down and ended
up having to go do other things. Right, But you
traveled and you reconnected. And I think sometimes it takes
something like that almost for some people to just sort
of get it. Like I mean, I do tell myself
like you only got one you know, but yet I'm
the type of person that I don't know. I have
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to really kind of be knocked on top of the
head to do something right.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And it's a struggle.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
And I found this book, if anything, it is you know,
it's examining a lot of characters. They all have very
different lives, and you know, they're all going through, well,
what if this is my last day?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well, what I do differently? And so they're asking themselves
those questions. We're asking ourselves those questions as we're reading
the book, and I think that's one of the great
things about it is that it's just sort of reinforcing
that idea of look, this is like, don't take life
too seriously.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Just go after what you want, you know, be brave,
Be brave.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And it's interesting the way they all kind of bonded
with the Facebook page. Years back, our family went to
Cabo San Lucas and we got caught in a tropical
storm and it was terrible, like the hotel flooded. It
was like one of the worst experiences ever. But it's
almost like the bonded by trauma for those of us
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who were there and wanted to kind of let people
know that this resort didn't take the proper considerations into
place before a tropical storm hits like other resorts did
to keep their guests safe. We created a Facebook group
and we kind of bonded in that group, and we're
able to kind of figure out how to get the
word out, so people were kind of aware that this
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could happen and maybe not to choose a resort like
that or something like that, and we still kind of
message in there. So it's like we're kind of bonded
by something that happens, because so often you go on
a trip or an airplane, you don't have any connection
with anybody on it or a resort, and you all
go about your ways. But then when something like this happens,
there are people you want to stay connected with, and
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because you've all experienced something together that was like not
of the norm. And that reminded me a lot of
this plain situation that they were all trying to find
each other, because it was like, hey, I'm not the
only one who's like feeling a certain way or with
something that we went through. There are other people feeling
the same way. And when you kind of have a
collaborative community, it's really nice.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, yeah, I liked in this book how
like there's those connections. But I liked how the author
made some of the characters connected m and you don't
find out until.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
The end of the book that they're like, oh.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
This person's connected to this person. This is a you know,
a parent or whatever. And I thought that was really
lovely to take some of those characters and connect them
up at the end. And yeah, really want to study
on the human spirit.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It is absolutely I think Danny you had mentioned, you know,
one of those stories was the child the well Timmy.
It was Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. But you know, as a parent,
if you hear that your child you're going to lose
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your child at a very young age, you know, what
do you do? And I think that the dad thought,
okay that you know, his wife, the mom is going
a little overboard. It's okay. But she made sure that
her little guy, you know, got the swim lessons because
it was supposed to be a drowning according to the
death lady, that this is how it was going to
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go down, and she just kept kept him in the pool.
And then years later we find out about Timmy, and
I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Want to throw it out there, but the Death Lay
Death Lady was the biggest cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, yes, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Was there a certain storyline or character you felt kind
of connected to, because I mean there were six characters.
A lot of people got, you know, their predictions on
the plane, but then we kind of follow the story
of of six main characters. Was there a storyline you
really enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I liked all the sex that what's her name Allegra
was having with hot hot pilot Johnny.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
She was in this relationship only for sex and thought
that he was this arrogant, you know, pilot, and he
ended up being like a really cool guy.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I don't know one story I connect. I liked them
all kind of evenly. I guess Sherry I really loved.
I really loved Ned her third husband, and I just
love that they you know, Sherry's mum when she was
when she was dying, she said, you know, you something
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about you know you'll have You've already met your the
love of your life.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And she's like, what do you know?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I liked Jake and I like, you know, and then
she finds out that, you know, she meets this guy
at a at a random party and finds out that
he was in her university class in mathematics, and it
ends up being sort of he ended up being the
love of her life late in her life.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think they got thirty five years. But I just
love how she you know, she'd been through so much
and then.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
She she randomly meets this guy who she'd met when
she was a university and then they get together and
they travel the world and they're just like all over
the place, and I just I loved how I just
loved that relationship. I loved reading about that relationship. So
I think that was the best part for me.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, she was and I really loved when it was
like a girl on a plane with the letter B
will be there for you when you need her the most.
And that part at the end was like wow. And
like you mentioned, Tanny, it was the interconnectivity of the characters,
but that part was really special too. And yeah, and
maybe it's because she couldn't quite per her own death.
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She was living, you know, and anything could happen to
her in any of those situations, but it didn't.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, and it's kind of interesting we find out that
that that Sherry is an actuary, right, So in a way,
once you find that out, you kind of go because
she didn't say you will she she would say I
expect or something, right, I expect.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Her you will die, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
And that's sort of what an actuary does. They They
they weigh the variables of all of these events and
they go, well, we expect, given the data, that this
is going to happen, right, Yeah, so you kind of
she lives in a mathematical world. I thought it was
interesting that she said that she had her and Ned
had a beautiful relationship with Jill and Bert.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Makes me laugh away.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
And the four of them were like this, this foursome,
and she said they were like a square, a perfect
mathematical equation or something. And I thought, she lives in
that sort of mathematical world. She always has, you know,
so I think she's always sort of looking at how
the numbers right, the numbers, the numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, I wish I had her. As she was
explaining everything, you know, in her mathematical mind, I kept thinking,
why couldn't I have had her in high school? Because
I have never been a math person, but I enjoyed
all the formulas, and it's true to life. You know,
everything has a scientific formula if you if you break
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everything down, and the way she broke it all down
made one sense to me, and math never makes sense
to me.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I am not a
math person at all, but that was definitely it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
It was until I hit grade ten.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I got like I didn't have to write finals because
I was so good in math. And then I hit
grade ten and like all everything was lost.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I actually had to like get out of school.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I actually went back to school after graduating because I
didn't get my advance because I failed math of all things,
and I had to get a tutor to help me
with math.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And then I went and got my advanced diploma after that.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
But it's like, wow, how can you go from like
not having to write finals to like completely you know,
screwing everything up in high school?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I guess that's just hormones.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, right, Lucky, That's exactly what it is. Yeah, it's
as we go back and forth. I was, you know,
at times I was having a moment, I think because
I was I was trying to do other things while
I was into the book. So there were times when
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I was a little confused, But it made sense as well,
because you're trying to figure out the characters on the
plane on your flight, right we you know, we don't
if we were not sitting with these people, these folks
and talking to them during our flight, then we don't
learn much about them. So I think in my mind,
I'm like, oh, yeah, if I met up with them
at this resort or at this you know, the bar
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in the in the airport, then maybe I'd know a
little more instead of just judging them for the way
that they rushed onto the plane and you know, stuffed
their bag somewhere. But I think it's first impressions about
all of these characters. And you know, first impressions can
mean a lot to a lot of people. But then
once you start unraveling or peeling back the layers. And
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this woman, like I felt the same way when she
was walking down the aisle, I thought, how rude, how odd?
How what is this woman all about? And yeah, she
turns out to be such a lovable character and so adventurous,
and she had like so many I think elders in
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our life that we meet or that we have in
our family. Once you hear their stories a lot over
the years, from you know, when you're a kid, Like
I've heard that before, but then you hear it again
because you're really listening to the words. It's not just
a story. So I love the way that we were
introduced to her in this kind of abrupt way, but
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then we went back and it was like she took
us into her life and so this is how it
rolled out.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It just makes me think, you know, we're talking about
meeting people on vacation and sometimes you know, you're letting
loose a little bit. It just makes me think, what
if people lie because you don't know these people. What
if they tell you a story that's not necessarily true
about them or where they live and what they do.
Like I wonder if there's people that just kind of
want to be someone different when they're on vacation, Like
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that just came to my mind. I don't do that,
but I just think, you know, for people who are
a little more adventurous, you don't really know. Wow, we
would never know. Yeah, we would never know. A random stranger,
they could say anything.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
You're sitting at a pool and someone strikes up a
conversation with you, Like how would you.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You don't know the real names, really, what city they're from,
what they do for work. They might tell you this information,
you might think, wow, that's really neat. I wish I
could have their life. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
That what if it's not us.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I've never thought of that, but I bet there are
so many that we've met and that that was the case. Yeah,
because I don't know if you and your your girlfriends
when you were in your twentieson when we started going
to the bars downtown, there were a few of us
that would use a different name, yeah, just to kind
of like, okay, keep safe and let's not give out,
you know, all of our personal information unless it's you know,
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it's going really well.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Some friends like created a different character or a different
persona just because it's like, okay, this is a different time.
And then we go back to campus or wherever we
were living at the time, and okay, we're back. Everybody's
say back safely and and and what a fun night.
It turns out to be well.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And in this book that podcast guy, he like there
was a character that that said that you know, he
was on the flight, but as it turned out, he
was lying.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I know, he was just trying to get you know,
I was trying to remember him. I was like, wait,
where was he? Did I miss that?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I thought that too, I thought I don't remember him,
and then you find out that, yeah, he wasn't on
the flight at all. So yeah, there's people lying, you know,
about who they are, what they do, where they are,
all that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Faking your own death for likee Yeah, yes, I know
that's a bit too much lying.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
There's a lot of stuff happening, like TikTok and you know,
all kinds of social media what do they call.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Themselves, influencers.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, influencers are looking for those likes and those you know,
those ads, and so perhaps there's a lot of that
going on. I liked how it was very present. There's
a lot of things that were very present and relatable
to what's happening right now in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
There was I think at the very beginning of the
book which actually made me laugh. It was kind of
before I started getting really into it. But I think
it's like page five or something. It talks about, you know,
all the things Sherry did not do when she got
on the flight. So it's all these crazy things that
happen on flights, and it just made me laugh. It's like, no,
she didn't have sex with another passenger. No she didn't
light up a cigarette like it was nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
No she did. I thought, Oh my goodness, and I'm
going yep, yep, yep, yeah, like.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
What those flight attendants have to go through. Oh my goodness,
I don't I don't think I could be captured on
a big tube in the sky and have to deal
with people like those flight attendants had to deal with
some of the people on that plane.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, because it's all about safety. Like once the door
is closed on a plane, it's not about entertaining us
or you know, servicing us. It's about like, how am
I going to get these people? Like how am I
going to keep them safe with all their antics going on?
When I have to focus on what's going what else
is going on? You know how much longer before we end?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
And it seemed like you always would see those characters.
There's always going to be the mom with multiple kids.
There's always going to be a crying baby, there's always
going to be an elder couple on the plane. There's
always gonna be like maybe a newlywed couple or a
hot couple like it. It's like you can every flight
you get on, you just see the mix of people
around you and you're.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Like, yep, this is this is the group of who
we are.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's just it's just so fascinating that you think that,
like you are with these people in the sky for
such a long period of time and then you all
just go your separate ways, and it's like, how many
flights could you potentially have been on with the same
people and connect it again?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But you have no idea. You don't know them, you
don't remember them.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
It's just the way like the universe works in our
and where we are at what time in our journey,
and those kind of things always trip me up. But
I don't Yeah, I don't know if I would want
anyone to predict my time. I don't know if it
would change things for me. Like, but I feel like
if someone put fear in you, I don't know if
(34:51):
you'd want to live with that fear. If someone just
gave you kind of like a general Hey, I don't
think you're in the right career. Maybe you want to
pivot or you know, if if it was you're having
relationship issues and they're like, I see someone else for you,
maybe that kind of info would want to know, but
not like age of death, cause a.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Death, No, thank you, I see you leaving, I see
you leaving, leaving.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
What was it the mother that kept saying that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
With all her readings like I see you leaving.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I see yes, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, her mother
and her anti anti man.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh any pat Yeah yeah yeah. I thought she was
a great character.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
So many great characters in this book, and I think
they're all like they're all relatable, Like they're all relatable.
I think anybody who reads this book would be able
to go, yep, yep, I know that person, or that's
happened to me, or I've I've had a reading, or
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Somebody who you know.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I think there's a you know, a lot in this
book for everyone who's going to pick it up and
read it.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, And we were saying Leanne Moriarty like she's she
wrote big Little lies, and of course that turned into
a very popular TV show. I haven't read that book,
but I could see this into some kind of a
TV series or a movie, because it would just be like,
so interesting to see all these lives intertwined and then
how it all ends up.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But that would be really cool if that ever happens.
Who would play Sherry? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So many different versions of her Meryl Streep. Could it
be her?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I don't know, because she's got that whole Devil wears
Prada in the beginning vibe where she's like fashionably dressed
and she's got the short hair and the piercing eyes.
But then later we got to find that the softer
side of her or Yeah, it'd be interesting to see.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
And I just have to go out on a side
note here. I love the fact that that she's seeing
Martin Short.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I just love that couple.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I do like could find you know, Meryl Streep and
Martin Short. You're like, what, but but hey he's funny,
Yeah he is, and women like funny, right, women love funny?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Could he play one of her her love?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yes, he could be. It's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, because they did that that, you know, when
she was with Ned. They seem to have such an
incredible time together. And when you see Merrill and Martin
out together, they see you know, even if they're supposed
to be hiding whatever relationship kind of whatevership they have,
they always look like they're having a good time.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like anyway, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But all in all, the great read.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It was, Yeah, lots lots to think about, whether we
follow along with the psychic's predictions or prophecies or just
kind of keep on going. But gives us something to
think about. I think that we part of me thinks
that we all have a number. But you know, then
you look at you know, when when younger people are lost,
(37:47):
it's like, no, I don't think it was their time.
I think it was it was what was happening around them.
And I think there are certain circumstances that you know,
things can change. But yeah, life is Life is all
about questions.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I know it is. And sometimes it's easy to get
up there and it. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Sometimes we're on the hamster wheel and we're on autopilot
and I can find this happening, you know, with just
like everyday schedules my life. We're kids, and then sometimes
you're like, get off the wheel, go do something for yourself,
break the pattern. A little bit, and I think that's
when you just got to kind of recheck in with yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah. Wine night with the ladies sometimes helps, Yes, not.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
In Mexico where the bad mind is no no.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right, then we do the margaritas.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, it's margarita's all the time.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Thank you once again for joining us on another episode
of Relaxing Reads until next time.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Thank you for kicking back and relaxing with us. We
hope you'll join us again on Relaxing Reads.
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