September 9, 2025 • 26 mins
In our latest episode, hosts Simone, Tanya and Deb discuss The Offing by Roz Nay. Two best friends, a yacht off the coast of Australia, and a getaway that turns deadly. Get ready for a twisty, high-stakes thriller that’ll keep you guessing till the last page. it’s secrets, suspense, and survival on the open water.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Join us and on wine with a good book. Welcome
to relaxing reads.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, it's debn Halifax.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hiat's a mountain Vancouver.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey, it's Tanya and Edmonton.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Nice to see you, ladies and Deb you recently had
some time off.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What you do well? I got some eight a tattoo.
Oh fantastic?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Is that your first tattoo?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh no, okay, it's my third.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's kind of hard to see.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I did post it on my on my socials. So
I went a group of girls I went to university with.
We lived in residence together, and there are twelve of
us who normally hang out. We're in different parts of
the country summer, state side, and we try to, if
not every year, every other year, try to get together
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for some mini trips. And so this time it was
eight of us, and a few years ago a few
of them got the number five tattooed, and that was
the floor we met on in residence. So yeah, anyway,
I thought, okay, I'm going to get a number five
at some point, but I didn't want to just get
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the number, So I did some research on flowers and
what friendship.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Or what flower might represent.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Friendship and the Peruvian Lily was the first one that
came up.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Oh that's so nice. So well thought of.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Number five in the center.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, so you guys are really close. Yeah that group.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Wow, university is such a I didn't go to university,
but it's such an influential time.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It is.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
You know, you're young, first time away from home and
everybody bonding together. Yeah, it's very cool. I tell people, like,
just go to university just for the culture. Yeah, just
because you learn so much stuff, you know, Like I
did community college a couple of times, but I did
live in res but not like the whole Anyway, where
did you guys go for your girls' weekend?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I mean for me, it wasn't very far Chester so
south of Halifax, not you know, maybe forty minutes outside
the city.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But is that Chester Basin Chester in the yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Same area.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, so there's Chester, Chester Basin all kind of in
the same same area.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But yeah, it was a big our airbnb. We were
the first ones to stay in this house. It was
a fun weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
We're a different stage talking about all our ailments.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah I bet oh no.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, still sharing some fun stories and having a drink
or two but it's it's kind of a different take
at the stage.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, life changes like that, yes, yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right, all right, this book, yeah, we get into it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Our latest read, The Offing by Rosney, is quite the twister.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I've in trouble.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
A recent breakup has left her humiliated and raw, so
when her best friend Reagan offers her a month long
escape in the form of a trip to Australia, it
feels like a lifeline, one that she grabs with both
hands together if they set off into tropical heat. But
it's not long before doubts start to creep in. So
are the girls simply claustrophobic or have.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They stumbled into something they don't understand.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
The past threatens to catch up with them, dark secrets emerge.
It's a dangerous cat and mouse game on land and
at sea that keeps you guessing.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Until the very last page. It's dark and it does
keep you on the edge of your seat.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And one for me, it was it was really easy
to binge, how about you, ladies.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, super easy to read.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
I felt the short chapters, you know, so that helps
with my attention span. And it's like and it always
I felt like every chapter sort of ended with a
and then you're like, oh, I got to get to
the next chapter and the next chapter you know, so
easy read.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, it just the pages just kept going for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, same for me.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I mean, we've read some pretty exciting books and usually
it's like, Okay, I'll get to it, but you might
miss a day or two. With this one, I was like,
I want to keep going and found the time to read.
Like sometimes I know, we don't make the time where
we push it a little later, but this one was
especially the first I want to say, two thirds of
the book like that really had me going. Obviously, the
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end and the conclusion was exciting, but the beginning, the
build up. I love a good build up because it
just sucks you in and then you're like, okay, now
I'm kind of getting answers. But in the beginning, it's
just that that was exciting for me.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, well, you get to know all the characters, right,
and then like, I don't know, I mean, I like
to keep notes as I read because I just don't
remember everything, and I'm like, oh, Christopher's the bad guy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, nobody's not. No, Desh is Desh is the bad guy,
you know, and.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Then you like I had all this I thought I
had it figured out, and then I didn't have it
figured out at all. Especially when you get to the end,
I'm like, I did not I did not see that coming.
So really good character development development, I think, you know,
just keeping these characters interesting and and and.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
All of that. And hey, I've always wanted to go
to Australia and I've never been, so.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
In a way, you know, to be on a boat,
you know, which you can And I called her Reagan.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It could be Reagan.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I don't know, but you know they go off on
the on this adventure on a boat and yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The twists and turns right when you realize how they're
connected together through you know thatcher and and that you
don't really see that coming, and just the journey of
their friendship and information they've withheld from each other, Like
deb you know, we were just talking about you and
your relationship with your friends and things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You think about like.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Is there some information your friends have withheld from you
or you don't know, like we all could have that
situation as close as you are with someone. So that
was like I liked to seeing how that unfolded and
how they kind of resolved that and came to be
because there was a lot of tension between the two
friends as well during this.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah. Definitely, yeah, definitely not my group. We let it
all out there.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
There might be some little things and maybe how we
remember certain incidents that come out or perhaps a few
who are not in our same circle any longer that
we've shared stuff with them and didn't share it with
one or two others. So trying to remember some of
those deep dark secrets. Although certainly not anything like Ivy
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and Reagan, No, but yeah, and Tanya I felt the
same way as well. I mean, I had been to Australia,
New Zealand, but Australia for a short stint, and I
had a couple of friends and cousins who traveled there
for several months and worked and like just young girls
in their twenties as well, and they would pick up
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whatever odd jobs they were able to do because they
weren't there for a very long period of time. And
they actually my cousin and one of her friends actually
did work on a boat for a time, So I
was kind of thinking about them. It was a little bigger,
it was a bigger boat, a bigger crew. However, when
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you think about all the things that could happen along
the way, Yeah, there is that very cool vibe with
a you know, the element of a holiday traveling around
you know, the water, and but yeah, quite the wild.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Well I'm sure like Ivy and Reagan, they didn't know,
you know, they're staying at a hostel and then they
you know, they found a note or of things saying, hey,
you can crew crew a ship. What was it alone
at last, I think was the name of it, and like,
what fun that would be? Like I could could totally
totally get that, although I'm a little like I know,
we've talked about this in previous books, like My you know,
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the I couldn't be on a boat doing night watch
in the middle of the ocean. I just the not
being able to see what's out there but totally make
me crazy. And of course the cramped quarters. I feel
like I'm a little bit claustrophobic. I don't know whether
I could be like it's such closed, you know quarters.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I think I would.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I would love to go sailing and I would do
night things, but I would always want the land to be.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Where you're kind of docked at night, right, like not
just go to a bay.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah you're not, just like in the middle of.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Oh my, well, that was scary and it's beautiful, like
I've heard it's you know, you get up on the
deck and like the sky is enormous at night, you know,
but my mind would be going, whoa.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
What's out there?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What's under us?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You know, I would be doing that kind of stuff. Well,
the lead an adventure.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The lure of it, of course is like it is
kind of easy money, Like we just have to sit
on this boat and stay up for you know, the night,
and it's an easy way for backpackers or travelers to
make money. So I'm sure there's the opportunity at that.
But then, like you said, Tanya, that moment where a
boat just pulls up right next to you out of
nowhere and then you're like, and who are you and
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they can just jump onto your boat like there's there's
no escaping pirates. Yes, that is scary and this was yeah,
this was those moments because it was kind of like
the who is the bad guy and just being stuck
when you don't know you've never really met any of
these people and you don't really know their information. You're
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just going in good faith with your friend. But really,
at the end of the day, some tragic happens. You're
thrown off that boat.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Nobody knows where you are, Like it's.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Frightening, and crocodiles and sharks in the water. I just oh, yeah,
the last.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Full of creepy crazy things like when it comes to what,
when it comes to things that could kill you, Yes,
they have bugs and things that are just like, oh,
oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Whereas I heard in New Zealand, like deb you mentioned
New Zealand, like there's nothing there. You can just lie
out in the grass and there's no spiders or snakes
or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, I forget what.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I remember being on a tour bus and the woman said, no,
Crawley's no creepies. No, I forget. She had an interesting
name for the bugs. But yeah, there there was nothing
that you had to be concerned about. But as soon
as I walked, you know, stepped onto land in Sydney,
and my friend who lives there was talking about, oh, yeah,
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you have.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
To be very aware.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Although people in Australia, Australia loved to walk barefoot everywhere
as we were talking. There were some big spiders that
jumped in my path, and of course he's lived there
for a while, so.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He knows what's good, what's bad.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
What's gonna you know, what's gonna grab you. And they
weren't harmful. They were right in the middle of the city. However,
had I been by myself, I'm sure I would have
made it a bit of a scene in you know,
in the pub.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Oh that just gives me, like that that feeling the
creepy Crawley's.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
The whole storyline was just very, very interesting. Was there
a character that either of you was a little more
invested in?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
H For me, I think Ivy.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Ivy got a little irritating to me, like this is
just me because she's constantly, like I get it, she's
constantly questioning her own worth. You know, she's comparing herself
to Reagan, who's like got a modeling contract. You know. Yeah, so,
but she was constantly I don't know, I find I
got a little tired of the of the inner dialogue
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that Ivy was having about herself and her insecurities. And
then she would do this and then she'd regret it,
and it's like it almost seemed like a bit a
lot for me of that character. I don't know, like
who my favorite I kept wanting to figure out Desh
and I never really bonded with him because I always
thought he was the guy who did I always thought
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he and he was going to be the bad guy,
and so I don't know who I would you know,
now that I've done the book, if I look.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Back, like who's my favorite character?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I felt for Christopher because you know he was he
was sort of like written as sort of the bad guy.
And then you find I felt sorry for him, and
then you you find out that there's a reason why
he bolted the doors from the outside, and you you
once you get to the end of the novel, you
kind of go back through a lot of the scenarios
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and you're like, I get I get Christopher. Now, yeah,
I get I get what was going on with him.
But as a reader going through the book, you're.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Like, you just have no idea.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
You bad guy, goodbye, good guy, bad guy, good guy.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And Blake, like, yeah, he ended up being kind of
a good guy.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I wanted to know a little bit more about Blake.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah, what is he a bounty hunter.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What is he like, Yeah, like an investigator.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, I hired to go.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Yeah he was, you know, and he's a very he's
like a hard guy like on the outside, like just
I can't remember how they described him, but he's been there,
done that. You can just sort of see him being
like all you know, weather, the skin is weathered.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And he's just like this guy and he likes to
hang out.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
What is that I can't remember where that beach was
that they went to, but Flint Beach. Flint Beach like
rough and tumbled kind of guy that's seen it all,
you know, seen it all.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And obviously we didn't like Thatcher, but Thatcher was not
very big of a part of the story.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It was like Thatcher came and I was expecting that
this is gonna go down, and then Thatcher was was
gone before we even knew it, and I was like,
that was easier done than I.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Thought it was going to be bigger.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, we'd have to when we talked to Roz at
some point we'll have to ask her, like what was
behind that, because there is there's a lot of excitement
or build up to find like when they finally come
face to face, what is going to happen?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What is going to be that?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And then it's like Blake just kind of got involved
and then you're like, oh, that's it by Thatch her
that's oh.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing and thinking that
there would be more between Blake and Thatcher and Christopher
and you know, because if you're the two girls, it
seemed like everybody was coming at them, all these characters.
You couldn't trust them, and yeah, the ones they thought
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they could trust turned out to be the ones that
were the least trustful.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If it would be turned into a movie, however, I'm
sure there would be more time to get to know
Thatcher and all of his dealings than not so.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Nice but so And that just brings up the whole thing,
like what you know, this this idea of I mean,
he was in a he was in a position of authority,
he was a professor, and yet he would you know,
we find out that he drugged young women and took
pictures of them in awful positions, compromising positions, and you
(15:19):
just think Echugh and then you know, branded them with
his letter K.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was awful.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
That's that was just a little snippet that the author
kind of put in. I'd actually like to ask her
about that, if we get an opportunity to ask her sometime.
But like you know, writing that part in where you know,
you go to university and you're exposed to all sorts
of great things, but there's also stuff that can happen too,
you know, when you have predatory type people around and
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you just always have to be aware.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You know. It's sort of like a cautionary tale, I
think too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But because still very young, very young, still very young.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Yeah there, Yeah, most people are good, but you know,
you use those people like that's your king, you're just
like ugh. I wanted more like maybe anyway, yeah, yeah,
but so many I want to tell a little bit
more about him and wrap that up a little bit.
I wanted I don't know what happened to Blake really
at the end, I wanted to know what happened to him.
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I don't know what happened to Christopher. I mean there's
those the writer you know, wrote in police excerpts where
they did the interviews and all that, so you get
a little piece of kind of where it's going and
what happened. But I don't know what happened to those characters.
I would like to know what happened. Well that's here
we know, but Blake and Christopher and let's talk about
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Leela gesus that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You know what it reminded me of deb Do you
remember reading the push from Ashley Audray? Yes, yes, that's
what this reminded me of a little bit. The whole
situation with Leela and Ashley Audray was one of the
I think on the book for this She like recommended
this book and I was like, Okay, interesting because it's
a similar, similar kind of story there. But yeah, not
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expecting that and like lying about the sleepwalking. I didn't
know that was It's like wow, eleven years old, Like yeah,
and she had that ability to be that like manipulative
and kind of conniving.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
What do you think was wrong?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
What do you think was her.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Mental health?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Is it like health? The situation really kind of demonic?
Like yeah, she was really evil.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Know enough about like you know, bipolar and or multiple
personalities disorder. There was there was definitely something else brewing
within her, but yeah, demonic would be definitely one some destrugres.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't I'd like to know.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
I guess I just wanted to know, you know, what
was the issue? Was she getting? Is she going to
get help? Is this something that she's eleven? I can't
imagine likes her life.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, we didn't really get to wrap up on her,
like where we kind of know where everyone else ends
up a little bit, like well, you know Reagan and
Ivy and stuff, but with Leela, I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't know is she with her dad, what's what's
the what's the plan for her?
Speaker 6 (18:24):
It's a situation, right, Yeah, Like I don't know. I
would like to know what happened there.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think there's definitely room.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Hopefully there is something else so we can continue to
learn more about these characters. But maybe she's just going
to leave it as is for us.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I kind of liked at the end where we read
that that Desh adopted Pearl, Yes, that was Leela's cat,
and we find out that, you know, obviously cats are animals,
are very perceptive about people, and they know when they're
bad people and good people. And we find out that
Leela hated her cat because her cat hated.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Her, and you kind of go, oh, that's why.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, a girl didn't like her.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
She could sense it was good sense, there's something off
about this young girl. You know, it was really cool
about the novel that you didn't get, Like you didn't guess.
You couldn't have guessed what eventually happened.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
No, in the end, No, yeah, not at all, not
at all.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, because everybody you thought could have had a
part of it, like yeah, and even it was like
thought that, yeah, Helen had set up this PI because
it was like a parent kidnapping and she's trying to
find her daughter.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I did not know.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
That's how it went with Helen, Like I did not
expect any of that, and with her was very innocent
and leaving her voicemails. Yeah, like that was interesting. If
she knew that that happened to her mom, why is
she still leaving voicemails? Right?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
She was not?
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think she had a whole other world
going upon.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, Like yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Whether it's multiple personalities or just that being able to
be that deceptive.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
But that's I don't know, Like at eleven, how could
you be so anyway?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Do a three sixty at the end, you know, then
you find out all the stuff that has happened, and
her true nature or maybe not her true nature, but
what she's afflicted with is causing her to do all
of these evil things, you know, like, wow, yeah it
was a good read, Like it was great. It was Yeah,
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it was good. I thought the author did a great
job of like, you know, making you feel like you're
in that space and and all the things that are
happening on the ocean and all the thing. What do
you think like she you know, the Offing, she called
it the Offing. That's our novel, the furthest part of
the ocean on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, that's what the Offing is.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
What do you think What do you think she meant
by like naming the book the Offing, the furthest.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I don't know. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I couldn't get that.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Obviously named it.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, she named it for a reason, you know, right?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The characters themselves? The boat? You know, somebody going to
be you know, I'm going to off them.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, that's what I thought, like when people, I thought
people would just be dying off and like the Offing,
they're off.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We've offed all of them.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, and just I don't know, there's such a piece
there's such a piece when you're on the water and
if you're able to, you know, have those moments where
it is just ocean and it is sunset and it's
beautiful and you see you know, that is the side
they probably signed up for, is like, we're going to
get on this boat and it's going to be beautiful,
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We're going to sail. We're going to get to do
that because not many of us will have kind of
that yacht charter experience where it's just like a private
sailing and then it ends up being like this a
very uncomfortable situation where you cannot get off this boat
and you are literally in the middle of the ocean
where there is no signal. Anything can go wrong, and
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you know, if you got stuck, you're running out of
gas and no boats come and you have no signal
and the flares were used incorrectly at the end. Yeah,
so it's oh, there's like the beauty side of it.
So the offing is such a beautiful like thing to
think about. And then there was yeah, like you said,
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this book was very dark, like with the stuff going
on with thatcher and then when Leela was screaming, I
was like, God, forbid, something crazy is going on there,
and I was like, this dish part of something shady
like that, what is happening? So there was a lot
of times your mind went to dark places. But yeah,
it was not the ending I expected, but it was.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It was one to definitely think about.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not expected.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
But I kind of I kind of liked it. I
went that didn't know that, you know, didn't catch that.
So I kind of liked the way she ended it
because your mind just went to again, you kind of
go back through the book and go.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Could I have foreseen?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Could I have?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You know?
Speaker 6 (23:20):
And I don't think so, I know, I don't think so,
you know, so not for me either.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I was happy that I didn't. You know, sometimes you
oh you skim through the last few pages because you
know how it's and oh there it is.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But no, I'm glad that I took my time.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I did have to put it down so I could
attend my girl's weekend for a moment, and the whole weekend,
not the whole weekend, let's be honest. There were several
times where I thought, and I didn't bring the book
with me, right.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
How is it? And we were on water actually.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
So you know, in the morning it was very calm
and just like the offing, one little ripple, one little
wave changes the whole course of the water and how
you perceive it.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
But yeah, it was it was great.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, I recommend it's fun.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Good book, and I never read fun when we first started,
like the book club and these conversations, I never realized
how much I would love thrillers, Like I don't remember
reading a lot growing out because I do, like I
like the little rom coms, and I like funny books.
I like biographies and things like that. And then you know,
we've read some really good thrillers with.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
The h Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yes, and I think her Runner thirteen is out too,
so it'd be a great one to read. But yeah,
like those are ones that that especially done right, like
this thriller was done right. So it's like, you know,
when it's not too easy, you just keep going.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And yeah, definitely enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, it's I think the flow of it was good.
The pacing was good because sometimes with thrillers, you know,
it'll it'll take you up and then you go down
and it takes you up. If there's two many kind
of mini climaxes, before you actually get it gets tiresome
when you're you're.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like, oh here, no, it's not this, oh here, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
So when it's just I like the pacing of how
she how she wrote this book, I didn't get tired
of all the many things, and it all kind of
worked for me.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And the police investigation side was neat because reading that,
you were like, what what happened? What something's happened, and
then you couldn't You could make up scenarios in your
head of what could have happened to who, but you
didn't really know until the end. So yeah, yeah, so
six thumbs up, as long as they're not severed severed
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body parts.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Oh severed, Oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Could you imagine to like you wouldn't even obviously know
to like go out that way, like you wouldn't even know,
like what just happened?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Insane? Insane?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
But yeah, you're in shock. I can't people, Thank goodness,
you're in shock. You don't feel anything I can imagine.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Always a good time with you, ladies, and ros Nay
joins us for the next episode of our Relaxing Reads podcast,
so we will chat with her about all things the offing.
Hope you'll tune in, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Thank you for kicking back and relaxing with us. We
hope you'll join us again on relaxing Reads.
Join us and on wine with a good book. Welcome
to relaxing reads.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, it's debn Halifax.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hiat's a mountain Vancouver.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey, it's Tanya and Edmonton.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Nice to see you, ladies and Deb you recently had
some time off.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What you do well? I got some eight a tattoo.
Oh fantastic?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Is that your first tattoo?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh no, okay, it's my third.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's kind of hard to see.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I did post it on my on my socials. So
I went a group of girls I went to university with.
We lived in residence together, and there are twelve of
us who normally hang out. We're in different parts of
the country summer, state side, and we try to, if
not every year, every other year, try to get together
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for some mini trips. And so this time it was
eight of us, and a few years ago a few
of them got the number five tattooed, and that was
the floor we met on in residence. So yeah, anyway,
I thought, okay, I'm going to get a number five
at some point, but I didn't want to just get
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the number, So I did some research on flowers and
what friendship.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Or what flower might represent.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Friendship and the Peruvian Lily was the first one that
came up.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Oh that's so nice. So well thought of.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Number five in the center.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, so you guys are really close. Yeah that group.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Wow, university is such a I didn't go to university,
but it's such an influential time.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It is.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
You know, you're young, first time away from home and
everybody bonding together. Yeah, it's very cool. I tell people, like,
just go to university just for the culture. Yeah, just
because you learn so much stuff, you know, Like I
did community college a couple of times, but I did
live in res but not like the whole Anyway, where
did you guys go for your girls' weekend?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I mean for me, it wasn't very far Chester so
south of Halifax, not you know, maybe forty minutes outside
the city.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But is that Chester Basin Chester in the yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Same area.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, so there's Chester, Chester Basin all kind of in
the same same area.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But yeah, it was a big our airbnb. We were
the first ones to stay in this house. It was
a fun weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
We're a different stage talking about all our ailments.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah I bet oh no.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, still sharing some fun stories and having a drink
or two but it's it's kind of a different take
at the stage.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, life changes like that, yes, yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right, all right, this book, yeah, we get into it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Our latest read, The Offing by Rosney, is quite the twister.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I've in trouble.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
A recent breakup has left her humiliated and raw, so
when her best friend Reagan offers her a month long
escape in the form of a trip to Australia, it
feels like a lifeline, one that she grabs with both
hands together if they set off into tropical heat. But
it's not long before doubts start to creep in. So
are the girls simply claustrophobic or have.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They stumbled into something they don't understand.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
The past threatens to catch up with them, dark secrets emerge.
It's a dangerous cat and mouse game on land and
at sea that keeps you guessing.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Until the very last page. It's dark and it does
keep you on the edge of your seat.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And one for me, it was it was really easy
to binge, how about you, ladies.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, super easy to read.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
I felt the short chapters, you know, so that helps
with my attention span. And it's like and it always
I felt like every chapter sort of ended with a
and then you're like, oh, I got to get to
the next chapter and the next chapter you know, so
easy read.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, it just the pages just kept going for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, same for me.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I mean, we've read some pretty exciting books and usually
it's like, Okay, I'll get to it, but you might
miss a day or two. With this one, I was like,
I want to keep going and found the time to read.
Like sometimes I know, we don't make the time where
we push it a little later, but this one was
especially the first I want to say, two thirds of
the book like that really had me going. Obviously, the
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end and the conclusion was exciting, but the beginning, the
build up. I love a good build up because it
just sucks you in and then you're like, okay, now
I'm kind of getting answers. But in the beginning, it's
just that that was exciting for me.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, well, you get to know all the characters, right,
and then like, I don't know, I mean, I like
to keep notes as I read because I just don't
remember everything, and I'm like, oh, Christopher's the bad guy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, nobody's not. No, Desh is Desh is the bad guy,
you know, and.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Then you like I had all this I thought I
had it figured out, and then I didn't have it
figured out at all. Especially when you get to the end,
I'm like, I did not I did not see that coming.
So really good character development development, I think, you know,
just keeping these characters interesting and and and.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
All of that. And hey, I've always wanted to go
to Australia and I've never been, so.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
In a way, you know, to be on a boat,
you know, which you can And I called her Reagan.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It could be Reagan.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I don't know, but you know they go off on
the on this adventure on a boat and yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The twists and turns right when you realize how they're
connected together through you know thatcher and and that you
don't really see that coming, and just the journey of
their friendship and information they've withheld from each other, Like
deb you know, we were just talking about you and
your relationship with your friends and things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You think about like.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Is there some information your friends have withheld from you
or you don't know, like we all could have that
situation as close as you are with someone. So that
was like I liked to seeing how that unfolded and
how they kind of resolved that and came to be
because there was a lot of tension between the two
friends as well during this.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah. Definitely, yeah, definitely not my group. We let it
all out there.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
There might be some little things and maybe how we
remember certain incidents that come out or perhaps a few
who are not in our same circle any longer that
we've shared stuff with them and didn't share it with
one or two others. So trying to remember some of
those deep dark secrets. Although certainly not anything like Ivy
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and Reagan, No, but yeah, and Tanya I felt the
same way as well. I mean, I had been to Australia,
New Zealand, but Australia for a short stint, and I
had a couple of friends and cousins who traveled there
for several months and worked and like just young girls
in their twenties as well, and they would pick up
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whatever odd jobs they were able to do because they
weren't there for a very long period of time. And
they actually my cousin and one of her friends actually
did work on a boat for a time, So I
was kind of thinking about them. It was a little bigger,
it was a bigger boat, a bigger crew. However, when
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you think about all the things that could happen along
the way, Yeah, there is that very cool vibe with
a you know, the element of a holiday traveling around
you know, the water, and but yeah, quite the wild.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Well I'm sure like Ivy and Reagan, they didn't know,
you know, they're staying at a hostel and then they
you know, they found a note or of things saying, hey,
you can crew crew a ship. What was it alone
at last, I think was the name of it, and like,
what fun that would be? Like I could could totally
totally get that, although I'm a little like I know,
we've talked about this in previous books, like My you know,
(08:06):
the I couldn't be on a boat doing night watch
in the middle of the ocean. I just the not
being able to see what's out there but totally make
me crazy. And of course the cramped quarters. I feel
like I'm a little bit claustrophobic. I don't know whether
I could be like it's such closed, you know quarters.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I think I would.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I would love to go sailing and I would do
night things, but I would always want the land to be.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Where you're kind of docked at night, right, like not
just go to a bay.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah you're not, just like in the middle of.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Oh my, well, that was scary and it's beautiful, like
I've heard it's you know, you get up on the
deck and like the sky is enormous at night, you know,
but my mind would be going, whoa.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
What's out there?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What's under us?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You know, I would be doing that kind of stuff. Well,
the lead an adventure.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The lure of it, of course is like it is
kind of easy money, Like we just have to sit
on this boat and stay up for you know, the night,
and it's an easy way for backpackers or travelers to
make money. So I'm sure there's the opportunity at that.
But then, like you said, Tanya, that moment where a
boat just pulls up right next to you out of
nowhere and then you're like, and who are you and
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they can just jump onto your boat like there's there's
no escaping pirates. Yes, that is scary and this was yeah,
this was those moments because it was kind of like
the who is the bad guy and just being stuck
when you don't know you've never really met any of
these people and you don't really know their information. You're
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just going in good faith with your friend. But really,
at the end of the day, some tragic happens. You're
thrown off that boat.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Nobody knows where you are, Like it's.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Frightening, and crocodiles and sharks in the water. I just oh, yeah,
the last.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Full of creepy crazy things like when it comes to what,
when it comes to things that could kill you, Yes,
they have bugs and things that are just like, oh,
oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Whereas I heard in New Zealand, like deb you mentioned
New Zealand, like there's nothing there. You can just lie
out in the grass and there's no spiders or snakes
or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, I forget what.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I remember being on a tour bus and the woman said, no,
Crawley's no creepies. No, I forget. She had an interesting
name for the bugs. But yeah, there there was nothing
that you had to be concerned about. But as soon
as I walked, you know, stepped onto land in Sydney,
and my friend who lives there was talking about, oh, yeah,
(10:35):
you have.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
To be very aware.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Although people in Australia, Australia loved to walk barefoot everywhere
as we were talking. There were some big spiders that
jumped in my path, and of course he's lived there
for a while, so.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He knows what's good, what's bad.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
What's gonna you know, what's gonna grab you. And they
weren't harmful. They were right in the middle of the city. However,
had I been by myself, I'm sure I would have
made it a bit of a scene in you know,
in the pub.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Oh that just gives me, like that that feeling the
creepy Crawley's.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
The whole storyline was just very, very interesting. Was there
a character that either of you was a little more
invested in?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
H For me, I think Ivy.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Ivy got a little irritating to me, like this is
just me because she's constantly, like I get it, she's
constantly questioning her own worth. You know, she's comparing herself
to Reagan, who's like got a modeling contract. You know. Yeah, so,
but she was constantly I don't know, I find I
got a little tired of the of the inner dialogue
(11:49):
that Ivy was having about herself and her insecurities. And
then she would do this and then she'd regret it,
and it's like it almost seemed like a bit a
lot for me of that character. I don't know, like
who my favorite I kept wanting to figure out Desh
and I never really bonded with him because I always
thought he was the guy who did I always thought
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he and he was going to be the bad guy,
and so I don't know who I would you know,
now that I've done the book, if I look.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Back, like who's my favorite character?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I felt for Christopher because you know he was he
was sort of like written as sort of the bad guy.
And then you find I felt sorry for him, and
then you you find out that there's a reason why
he bolted the doors from the outside, and you you
once you get to the end of the novel, you
kind of go back through a lot of the scenarios
(12:40):
and you're like, I get I get Christopher. Now, yeah,
I get I get what was going on with him.
But as a reader going through the book, you're.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Like, you just have no idea.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
You bad guy, goodbye, good guy, bad guy, good guy.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And Blake, like, yeah, he ended up being kind of
a good guy.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I wanted to know a little bit more about Blake.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah, what is he a bounty hunter.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What is he like, Yeah, like an investigator.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, I hired to go.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Yeah he was, you know, and he's a very he's
like a hard guy like on the outside, like just
I can't remember how they described him, but he's been there,
done that. You can just sort of see him being
like all you know, weather, the skin is weathered.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And he's just like this guy and he likes to
hang out.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
What is that I can't remember where that beach was
that they went to, but Flint Beach. Flint Beach like
rough and tumbled kind of guy that's seen it all,
you know, seen it all.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And obviously we didn't like Thatcher, but Thatcher was not
very big of a part of the story.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It was like Thatcher came and I was expecting that
this is gonna go down, and then Thatcher was was
gone before we even knew it, and I was like,
that was easier done than I.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Thought it was going to be bigger.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, we'd have to when we talked to Roz at
some point we'll have to ask her, like what was
behind that, because there is there's a lot of excitement
or build up to find like when they finally come
face to face, what is going to happen?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What is going to be that?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And then it's like Blake just kind of got involved
and then you're like, oh, that's it by Thatch her
that's oh.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing and thinking that
there would be more between Blake and Thatcher and Christopher
and you know, because if you're the two girls, it
seemed like everybody was coming at them, all these characters.
You couldn't trust them, and yeah, the ones they thought
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they could trust turned out to be the ones that
were the least trustful.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If it would be turned into a movie, however, I'm
sure there would be more time to get to know
Thatcher and all of his dealings than not so.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Nice but so And that just brings up the whole thing,
like what you know, this this idea of I mean,
he was in a he was in a position of authority,
he was a professor, and yet he would you know,
we find out that he drugged young women and took
pictures of them in awful positions, compromising positions, and you
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just think Echugh and then you know, branded them with
his letter K.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was awful.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
That's that was just a little snippet that the author
kind of put in. I'd actually like to ask her
about that, if we get an opportunity to ask her sometime.
But like you know, writing that part in where you know,
you go to university and you're exposed to all sorts
of great things, but there's also stuff that can happen too,
you know, when you have predatory type people around and
(15:47):
you just always have to be aware.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You know. It's sort of like a cautionary tale, I
think too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But because still very young, very young, still very young.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Yeah there, Yeah, most people are good, but you know,
you use those people like that's your king, you're just
like ugh. I wanted more like maybe anyway, yeah, yeah,
but so many I want to tell a little bit
more about him and wrap that up a little bit.
I wanted I don't know what happened to Blake really
at the end, I wanted to know what happened to him.
(16:19):
I don't know what happened to Christopher. I mean there's
those the writer you know, wrote in police excerpts where
they did the interviews and all that, so you get
a little piece of kind of where it's going and
what happened. But I don't know what happened to those characters.
I would like to know what happened. Well that's here
we know, but Blake and Christopher and let's talk about
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Leela gesus that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You know what it reminded me of deb Do you
remember reading the push from Ashley Audray? Yes, yes, that's
what this reminded me of a little bit. The whole
situation with Leela and Ashley Audray was one of the
I think on the book for this She like recommended
this book and I was like, Okay, interesting because it's
a similar, similar kind of story there. But yeah, not
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expecting that and like lying about the sleepwalking. I didn't
know that was It's like wow, eleven years old, Like yeah,
and she had that ability to be that like manipulative
and kind of conniving.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
What do you think was wrong?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
What do you think was her.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Mental health?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Is it like health? The situation really kind of demonic?
Like yeah, she was really evil.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Know enough about like you know, bipolar and or multiple
personalities disorder. There was there was definitely something else brewing
within her, but yeah, demonic would be definitely one some destrugres.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't I'd like to know.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
I guess I just wanted to know, you know, what
was the issue? Was she getting? Is she going to
get help? Is this something that she's eleven? I can't
imagine likes her life.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, we didn't really get to wrap up on her,
like where we kind of know where everyone else ends
up a little bit, like well, you know Reagan and
Ivy and stuff, but with Leela, I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't know is she with her dad, what's what's
the what's the plan for her?
Speaker 6 (18:24):
It's a situation, right, Yeah, Like I don't know. I
would like to know what happened there.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think there's definitely room.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Hopefully there is something else so we can continue to
learn more about these characters. But maybe she's just going
to leave it as is for us.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I kind of liked at the end where we read
that that Desh adopted Pearl, Yes, that was Leela's cat,
and we find out that, you know, obviously cats are animals,
are very perceptive about people, and they know when they're
bad people and good people. And we find out that
Leela hated her cat because her cat hated.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Her, and you kind of go, oh, that's why.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, a girl didn't like her.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
She could sense it was good sense, there's something off
about this young girl. You know, it was really cool
about the novel that you didn't get, Like you didn't guess.
You couldn't have guessed what eventually happened.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
No, in the end, No, yeah, not at all, not
at all.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, because everybody you thought could have had a
part of it, like yeah, and even it was like
thought that, yeah, Helen had set up this PI because
it was like a parent kidnapping and she's trying to
find her daughter.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I did not know.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
That's how it went with Helen, Like I did not
expect any of that, and with her was very innocent
and leaving her voicemails. Yeah, like that was interesting. If
she knew that that happened to her mom, why is
she still leaving voicemails? Right?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
She was not?
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think she had a whole other world
going upon.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, Like yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Whether it's multiple personalities or just that being able to
be that deceptive.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
But that's I don't know, Like at eleven, how could
you be so anyway?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Do a three sixty at the end, you know, then
you find out all the stuff that has happened, and
her true nature or maybe not her true nature, but
what she's afflicted with is causing her to do all
of these evil things, you know, like, wow, yeah it
was a good read, Like it was great. It was Yeah,
(20:46):
it was good. I thought the author did a great
job of like, you know, making you feel like you're
in that space and and all the things that are
happening on the ocean and all the thing. What do
you think like she you know, the Offing, she called
it the Offing. That's our novel, the furthest part of
the ocean on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, that's what the Offing is.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
What do you think What do you think she meant
by like naming the book the Offing, the furthest.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I don't know. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I couldn't get that.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Obviously named it.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, she named it for a reason, you know, right?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The characters themselves? The boat? You know, somebody going to
be you know, I'm going to off them.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, that's what I thought, like when people, I thought
people would just be dying off and like the Offing,
they're off.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We've offed all of them.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, and just I don't know, there's such a piece
there's such a piece when you're on the water and
if you're able to, you know, have those moments where
it is just ocean and it is sunset and it's
beautiful and you see you know, that is the side
they probably signed up for, is like, we're going to
get on this boat and it's going to be beautiful,
(21:58):
We're going to sail. We're going to get to do
that because not many of us will have kind of
that yacht charter experience where it's just like a private
sailing and then it ends up being like this a
very uncomfortable situation where you cannot get off this boat
and you are literally in the middle of the ocean
where there is no signal. Anything can go wrong, and
(22:19):
you know, if you got stuck, you're running out of
gas and no boats come and you have no signal
and the flares were used incorrectly at the end. Yeah,
so it's oh, there's like the beauty side of it.
So the offing is such a beautiful like thing to
think about. And then there was yeah, like you said,
(22:39):
this book was very dark, like with the stuff going
on with thatcher and then when Leela was screaming, I
was like, God, forbid, something crazy is going on there,
and I was like, this dish part of something shady
like that, what is happening? So there was a lot
of times your mind went to dark places. But yeah,
it was not the ending I expected, but it was.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It was one to definitely think about.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not expected.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
But I kind of I kind of liked it. I
went that didn't know that, you know, didn't catch that.
So I kind of liked the way she ended it
because your mind just went to again, you kind of
go back through the book and go.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Could I have foreseen?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Could I have?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You know?
Speaker 6 (23:20):
And I don't think so, I know, I don't think so,
you know, so not for me either.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I was happy that I didn't. You know, sometimes you
oh you skim through the last few pages because you
know how it's and oh there it is.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But no, I'm glad that I took my time.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I did have to put it down so I could
attend my girl's weekend for a moment, and the whole weekend,
not the whole weekend, let's be honest. There were several
times where I thought, and I didn't bring the book
with me, right.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
How is it? And we were on water actually.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
So you know, in the morning it was very calm
and just like the offing, one little ripple, one little
wave changes the whole course of the water and how
you perceive it.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
But yeah, it was it was great.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, I recommend it's fun.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Good book, and I never read fun when we first started,
like the book club and these conversations, I never realized
how much I would love thrillers, Like I don't remember
reading a lot growing out because I do, like I
like the little rom coms, and I like funny books.
I like biographies and things like that. And then you know,
we've read some really good thrillers with.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
The h Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yes, and I think her Runner thirteen is out too,
so it'd be a great one to read. But yeah,
like those are ones that that especially done right, like
this thriller was done right. So it's like, you know,
when it's not too easy, you just keep going.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And yeah, definitely enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, it's I think the flow of it was good.
The pacing was good because sometimes with thrillers, you know,
it'll it'll take you up and then you go down
and it takes you up. If there's two many kind
of mini climaxes, before you actually get it gets tiresome
when you're you're.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like, oh here, no, it's not this, oh here, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
So when it's just I like the pacing of how
she how she wrote this book, I didn't get tired
of all the many things, and it all kind of
worked for me.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And the police investigation side was neat because reading that,
you were like, what what happened? What something's happened, and
then you couldn't You could make up scenarios in your
head of what could have happened to who, but you
didn't really know until the end. So yeah, yeah, so
six thumbs up, as long as they're not severed severed
(25:39):
body parts.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Oh severed, Oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Could you imagine to like you wouldn't even obviously know
to like go out that way, like you wouldn't even know,
like what just happened?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Insane? Insane?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
But yeah, you're in shock. I can't people, Thank goodness,
you're in shock. You don't feel anything I can imagine.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Always a good time with you, ladies, and ros Nay
joins us for the next episode of our Relaxing Reads podcast,
so we will chat with her about all things the offing.
Hope you'll tune in, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Thank you for kicking back and relaxing with us. We
hope you'll join us again on relaxing Reads.
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