House of Wax (20th anniversary)

Paris Hilton agrees that this episode is hot! Mark welcomes longtime friend, collaborator, horror lover, and actress Kit Sheehan back on the pod to take a trip to the House of Wax from 2005. The two reminisce about seeing this "remake" together just weeks before their senior prom and graduation 20 years ago. Plus, they share stories about making a spoof of this slashfest called House of SAKS 5th Avenue, where Kit naturally played Paris. Kit praises the great behind-the-scenes reality show Movie Life: House of Wax that aired on MTV, which you can find on YouTube. Also, other 2005 staples The OC, Brokeback Mountain, and Crash get shout-outs! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Straw Hut Media Welcome victims to the ninety ninth episode
of Release Date Rewind. Hello, listeners, near and far. It's
officially summer, so it's hot, sweaty and waxy and queer,
So queer, happy pride everybody. I hope you've been seeing
rainbows everywhere. I'm your host, Mark J. Parker, a film

(00:24):
lover and filmmaker, and this is a podcast that celebrates
the special anniversaries of old movies we love. Thanks so
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pods after you finished this one. Where I live in
New England just had a major heat wave to ring
in the new season, so it's only natural that I
finally finally release this very fun episode honoring the twenty
year old Old House of Wax remake that came out
in two thousand and five. So grab your friends, wear

(01:07):
your white tanks and juicy tracksuits, and if you'd like
to watch or rewatch this movie before listening, it's sadly
not streaming anywhere at the moment in the US, but
you can borrow it from your library or rent it
or find it on some random site somewhere. I just
so happen to have it on DVD because look at that.

(01:27):
I'm a real fan. All right, Twins, Let's not go
to a football game and go frolic in a fake
town instead, because it's time to rewind. The temperatures are rising,

(01:51):
summer is here. We got our tank tops on. I
have my like I have my. I've got senior writis.
I know to no makeshift tanked up on because I
have a guest on who twenty years ago when this
movie came out that we saw together, we were getting
ready to graduate high school.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We had such senior writis.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh my god, we were about to get a prom,
we were about to have her birthday it's her birthday month,
and then a couple weeks after that graduation graduation, and
we walked down the graduation aisle together together, which is
really kind of crazy because I mean, our letters aren't
that close to each other. But it's just the way.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
It matters for the people listening at home.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Parker and she and that is right, we have kit
shean back on the show we have kids here, she
has returned. Hey, she's got her tank on. We got
another May horror movie.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
To discuss, and I ripped tank that we delicately called
wife beaters back to day. And that's just some of
the beginning of the problematic language we were just talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
We were just talking about mean words back then, and
how it was normal and cool and how every and
showed their affection aggressively and violently, right, bullying bullying affection. Yes,
Now it's more like we were saying, you either add
like a bitch to it to make it like fun,
or like yes.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know so you know, Yeah, we celebrate often that
we would have used to like it used to be
a teasing like a shameful thing, and now it's like
a yeah, I'm fat and I'm hot as hell, like
get over here with your fat ass.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, what do you think? Why did we walk down
the aisle together? I forget? Was it a boy line
and a girl.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Line as well?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
There there must be to determine the bads that we
were walking into life. And we so we had like
two rehearsals in the days leading up to it, but
people would be missing for each like there would be
someone was missing in this one.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So you walked, you never knew who was going to be.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Someone was still taking a test, or something was.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Taking a test, someone someone was maybe yeah, someone was
missing Laura.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Someone was Laura Palmer.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's very sad. No, thank god, that was not our experience,
but they so. And then on our actual graduation day
when everyone who was there was gonna be there, I
remember like two I was like counting like three before
and was like, holy shit, holy shit, I'm gonna be
with Mark.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Oh god.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I remember you were on my right and we made
eye contact and we were like getting closer and we
were and I feel like we both were probably saying
holy shit, holy ship, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Right, yes, and we kissed, kissed down the aisle.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I feel like making did you ask me? Did you say, like,
do you want to kiss?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I thought you asked me one of us. It was
on our minds. We were like because no one else
was going to do, and we were, and we were
the ones.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I thought you did, but I was so I was
absolutely absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
It was we have to we.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Have graduating and we were also the two much though
missus Haynes tried to keep a good girl down, but
we were the two who had done all eight always
it was the musicals.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, it was so perfect.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Oh my god, we were yes, speaking of Chad Michael
Murray being on Dawson's Creek before Right Connection, which was
an episode you were on. Everybody you might remember. Of
course Kit's been on a bunch, thank you very much.
But her last episode was with our Hometown Loves group.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Er.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
She's got range everybody, she's got period dramas, she's got
trashy home.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Can yap about it, but like.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Okay, let's let's truly rewind, because what a time in
our lives, not only just this movie and our great
spoof house of Sacks, which do I have your permission?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Kit?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
If I can find it, can I post a clip of.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You and the weege I have?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I like, I want to personally also apologize to Paris Hilton.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I feel like, and not just.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Me personally, but I feel like all of us as
a society were really shitty to her.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
We're awful. Yeah, but you know what she ran with it,
and she is actually so smart and so iconic. But
she's like, yeah, the marketing of this movie says, see
Paris guy may sixth right, and she had to.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
But House hairy and she was like, I'm gonna do it,
like I'm taking this, but it has like a winnow
because so we watched the behind the scenes was the
House of Wax, which I remember.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I remember it when we were kids. Yeah, I remember watching.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
That music and it was the four of them they
really focused on, like the four out of the six
you will call them, yeah, students, they're not really teens,
but you know, they really focused on the floor. I
remember that that with Joel Silver the producer, and we're
making House of Wax right. I wasn't able to rewatch
any before this, but I remembered. I was so excited
by that and so brilliant to do it behind the scene. Look,

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I mean that was back when MTV loved that kind
of stuff. Yes, like True Life and like Fanatic.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
The video making the video Attic was one and then
also a Maide I mean was kind.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Of made, which we auditioned for.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I actually did not.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
You weren't there with us.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I wasn't there. You and Cassie did it. I remember
before you.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Were there, would you what would you have like wanted
to be made into?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Do you think the one thing I owe, and it
would have been so different and I would have been
really bad. I would have wanted to be made into
a surfer. I was super into like the Bill of
Bong and like that. I would have been like, yeah,
I want and I'm not strong and it's specific. And
TV also had like a girls surfing competition around the

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time we were in high school.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Probably because of Blue Crush.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yes, also another movie we saw and contact was so
dry that I had to take ant and put in
my mouth.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is that what you remember?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'm just looking over me, like you want to leave.
We could always maybe try to come back, and You're like, no,
we need to.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
See if she makes the competition.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
At the time, and still to this day, because I
have not toned, my shoulders are so weak and narrow
that like backpack strap slide down all the time, Like
I'm freaking Marilyn Monroe. Sorry, my bapat doesn't fit because
I have a baby shoulders. So I remember being like, oh,

(08:35):
I could never hack it as a surfer, but god,
I wanted to so much.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Have you ever taken a surfing lesson? No?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Wow, I've taken one as well. Oh well, sharks are terrifying.
Speaking of sharks, this same director, I know I'm gonna
butcher his name. I even like did the like google
pronunciation jaw may. I believe it is Collette Sarah. He
did The Shallows with Blake Lively. Do you ever see
the Shallows?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I did not see, but I know of and scared.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
We know that Blake is problematic, but man, the Shallows
is terrifying. I mean sharks. I mean even the worst
shark movie I will be terrified by. But yeah, so
I am right there with you, very straight up sharks.
I've done at least one surfing lesson, I think, just one,
I think. And it is so exhausting. Yeah wonder, no

(09:22):
wonder male, female, any gender surfers, No wonder they are
so friggin hot because they are so friggin' tough.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
And I was so exhausted. I was just like laughing
in the water, like barely breathing, like I was just
so like this is crazy, Like my arm's were spaghetti straps.
I wasn't terrible, I have to tell you all. I
got on the board a couple times and I was
not awful. So still maybe next time when I visit you.

(09:50):
Maybe I don't know where's a good beach to go.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Shit right, Well, I know that they do well and
they but they would accept us.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I was like, I know that they do.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I've been on Santa Monica where they had the little guys.
There's like a bunch it'll be like little kids surfing,
So like a bunch of little boushabishes just like descend
to the water in their wet suits and like splash
around in the wave shallows. So I know that there's
a possibility of getting I don't know if they teach
adults that, but I would hope I would, Oh god,

(10:19):
they would do yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So yeah, but but next time I visit you. Funny,
I did just go see a psychic and she did say,
I see California in your future. Someone's going to open
their door and let you in. I'm like, okay, I'm like,
maybe it's kid. I'm seeing a couple of yeah, yes,
visit and sleep in the sound booth.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And like our door is always open.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Does she mean to live on the ground, Like we
don't have an air mattress.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I wonder if one could fit.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I know I don't have one either in this new place, like.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
A vampire upright in our in the chairs.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Speaking of Dark and Dungeon. I think it's time, all right, everybody,
we are going back. Let's rewind twenty years two, almost
graduation May two thousand and five, everybody, house of wax.
This remake came out May sixth two thousand and five,
just celebrated twenty years.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Kit.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'm going to tell you what was going on in life.
You tell me what you were thinking, what how this
makes you feel? This is all popular stuff that was happening. Okay,
So I have for news. We were about to go
to prom, so there's those big news y. Can I
just tell you? Okay, there was a lot going on
on TV, but I always associate this with our senior prom.

(11:31):
Who did you go with?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Jason Buffington?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Jason Buffington? Oh my god, Hi.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Jason, definitely Jason jar big listener. Jason is one of
the friends that I've only had on Facebook, and so
now I should stop him.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You should, You'd be like, hey, I mentioned you today, right,
Speaking of Jason, Jason saw the Texas Chainsaw remake with
us and rewatching this movie now twenty years later, I'm like, man,
a Texas Chainsaw remake was all over this like they
saw that. They were so inspired and obviously going back
to the tank tops.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
They were like, we were raised. There were another dirty
leg rib.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Tank It really is, it really is amazing when you
think of it, like two thousand and three between Texas, Chainsaw,
Wrong Turn, the Ring, there's even more. Oh no, I'm sorry.
Was the Ring two thousand and two? I think it
was two thousand and two, yeah, yeah, but just those
early two thousand yes, yes, really, yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
We were sophomores, Yes, I remember in it was in
missus missus Lipinski's history class and Lorie.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I want to sayy Carter.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yes, who wore the long black trench often Glory Carter
was like, I was so scared. Yes, hell yes, and
she goes, I was so. She was talking to someone else.
She was like, I was so scared.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I cried huh.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
And we were like what was that?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I like I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I was like I nearly cried too, like at the
part with the horse. So I was like it was
around the time where I was like, oh, you can
admit stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like right, So I was eighteen at this time. You
were seventeen seventeen out to go to Prom and going
back to Prom. I'll never forget the night before Prom.
I believe it was somewhere right around May twentieth, so
it was coming up the second season finale of The
OC where Misha Barton shoots the guy and Imagen exactly

(13:17):
sing it don't see it, magician did? Hide and Seek was?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Was?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
That was like a parent And I was actually researching
this the other day on one of my rabbit holes
where I'm like, I really don't have time to do this,
but i have to. I have to make time and
I'll just push the real stuff to the next day.
That's where I am right now. But Hide and Seek
was that was the first time anyone had heard that song,
Like they somehow like got the rights to it, put
that song in there, and then the next day or
maybe that same day, it was also released as a single.

(13:43):
But the show so the power of the OC right,
let's say, But I just remember that was big. And
then the next day we went to Prom, everyone's talking

(14:04):
about the o C. I remember lizens and was like,
oh my god, this song was so good, like on
in her phone immediately whatever I guess on on CD.
I don't even know what we were listening to.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
How we must have had it onod we listen. We
did have iPods, so but we would make mix CDs.
But we did also have things that would like your
iPod could hook up to like an ox chord to
play just the iPod, and we had it. We played
it all the way down to the beat to Dylan's
parents beach house.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Absolutely, you know, I gotta find I know it's somewhere
on a big, massive hard drive. It's somewhere at the
house because like half of my stuff is here. Half
of my stuff is at the house, and I gotta
find it. But House of Sax is on there. Oh
my god, that video. But anyway, so I just had
to really shout out OC was about to rock everyone's I.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Just also said, I don't I think she will listen
to it, but love you girl. Lisa robertson my acting coach.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Great. I've watched videos.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yes, yes, she And here's a little example of how
great she is.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
She was Keiky's coach. She was the acting coach for Kirsten.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
That I like my white wine and I I like
my shardonnay and I am not dying alone.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I will not die alone.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I was like, I used to say that line in
high school in the hallways all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I would be like, yeah, well you know.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
What, slam my locker shut, I like my shardonnay and
I will not die alone.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Wow, what a line, what a great line. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Miss the other day and class, she was like you
were She was just having a moment of not remembering something.
She was like, cute, you were a kid in the
nineties and I was like or she was like, you
were a teenager in the nineties and I was like no, no.
I was like, here's how you can remember? Is that
my senior prom We were all, what you say, that's
how I'm that.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
What's you say? Years old?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Will be right back?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
You guys gonna do it today?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Or what the hell? What does he want?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Can help you?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Maybe we're on his property. I'm gonna tell you off.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Like I was a freak.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Let's go, come on, he's gone.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I was Dalton. I was this Dalton character with the
video camera.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
That was me. Right, we're such an adults, except you
never creeped on anybody never assumed it.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Definitely had an Ashton Kutcher, Like you know, everyone had
one right, and I would wear it occasionally, sort of
like as a half joke like this isn't really me.
I'm just kind of wearing what.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm just looking at me wearing a hat, like doing.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
What they're doing in House of Wax. Yes, exactly. With TV,
I mentioned the oh see other shows that were coming
to an end, and like series Finale, Judging Amy, Third Watch,
Everybody Loves Raymond, so shows we weren't really caring much about,
but like big shows up that era, right yep, yeah, upcoming.
Later in May, Brittany and Kevin fetter Line were about
to debut their reality show Chaotic Really.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
This is I was.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I worked as a lifeguard this summer, and I remember, yeah,
wonder this girl Nicole uh.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Casner right, Ryan Casny Probably.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, she was. It was so funny. She just like
was zoning out eating chips and she goes, will it last?
And then looked at us and then she was like,
I'm so sorry that Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I actually really liked the cole Kaster.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
She was weird.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
To help, she was like, she goes, that was so weird.
I think I was thinking about Brittany and Kevin. She's
just like eating chips, will it last?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Will it last?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well no, we all kind of knew it. Tom Cruise
was about to jump on Oprah's couch right around your
birthday early. Yeah, they were together. He and Katie Holmes
had just started dating in April of two thousand and five.
I believe she was about to come out with Batman Begins,
which he was all over. So yeah, he was jumping

(18:14):
on Oprah's couch and about to do that whole tirade
against Brookshields on the Today's Show with Matt Lower.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, apologized, and then he invited her to his wedding.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh my god, that's right. And did she go? I
think she went.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
She did go.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Do you know who didn't go? Shelley Mskovich, Shelley, Misscabbage,
Miss Gabbage.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Geah way, Shelley. Let's say her name in any way.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Possible her name and fucking find her.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
We still have not found her. Scary.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I know I'm going, I'm getting really controversial and saying
apologist the culture of scientology.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
This is not a pro scientology pod.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I enjoy Tom Cruise.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
But yeah, thank you. We need to set the record straight.
You all want to talk shit. I am not a
fan of Scientology.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, just because I like Juliette Lewis Beck and Elizabeth
Moss and Giovanni Ribisi does not mean there.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Is Juliet still a scientologist.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I don't know, Okay, I don't think she is out
against it, but I accept you as you are.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I think that the Church of Scientology is an evil organization.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're believing?

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Maybe, like, spend some time looking for Shelley today.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Find fine Shelly.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Sason four is all about she find Shelley. She's in
the woods. She's actually behind the antlers. I don't know.
I haven't seen the season.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
At all, so I haven't seen this new season. Maybe
they do find.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I would love that. I would love.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
It anyway, She's actually melody, Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
American Idol Season three was about to come to an
end with the winner, Carrie Underwood, one of the last,
one of the last true Idol. Yes on the music side,
perfect segue. The number one song which is so appropriate
and such a reason why I put this song in
our spoof house of House of.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Sacks, Fifth Avenue, Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Halla, back Girl by Gwen Stefani was the number one song,
which I just feel like was such an anthem of
our senior year. I remember our bestie Sarah Medical and
I shouting the lyrics to that in the hallway, like
I think it was at the end of the day,
like school was out and we're right next to each other.
It's not like we're shouting down the hall. We're right
next to each other. This smash it and like a

(20:26):
teacher had to slam her door shut because we were
so loud, and we were like, but it was so noisy,
you remember those Like literally the bell had rung like
people were right and so we were just like this
smash it and that slam.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm looking at their like, oh okay, we gotta go,
you know, which I feel like is very nice. Other
songs in the top ten Candy Shop from Fiddy Scent,
remember that one, and the absolute instant classic Since You've
Been Gone by Kim Parkson. I mean that was in
the top ten that I remember jamming out to that
on our senior trip someone Priory. That was like an anthem.

(21:06):
So we had like cool songs going on. On the
movie side, this came out the same day as two
movie I was gonna say two very big movies. One
was very big budget. One was very big Awards big
budget the number one movie of the weekend. House the
Wax came in number two. Number one was Kingdom of Heaven.
Remember that one with Orlando Bloom?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I do remember.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I never saw it, Ridley Scott.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I believe Ridley Scott.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, I think Ash has seen it, and I think
or isn't there like a director's cut for that one?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Probably another hour?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I feel like the yeah, another it might be an
hour that gives it context or something that or But
I have not ever seen.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
That more of Orlando's hair like in the wind on
a horse maybe, you know, and cools right, I think so, yeah, yeah,
he's got his like armor on, you know. So that
was the number one movie big budget Ridley Scott. But
a little lower on the list. I think it opened
at like Number four was Crash verry polarizing Best Picture winner.

(22:02):
Crash had just come out the same day as House
of Wax. Crash was the big upset to broke broke,
specially Broke down Palace. I always get them confused. I
don't know why. I'm sorry everyone. I will always get
I was. I will always called broke down Palace, broke
back Mountain, Mountain was the big one that everyone was
thinking would win. And I remember Jack Nicholson said, yeah,

(22:25):
you know, but yeah, what was the two thousand and
four best picture? I think it was a million dollar baby, I.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Believe, Okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, so.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, maybe we were kind of thinking.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Like like broke Back it might have been a how
do we not give it to the.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
We'll give it to the racism?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
No one, no one can say, we're it's sort of
like if we give it to the racism.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Right, yeah, it's sort of like which which like minority
group to give it?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
To give it to without offending either way. We're going
to be liberal and no exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
And it is funny because did not age the way
that Broke Back Mountain does. Broke Back Mountain is a
nearly I mean, the perfect is a weird like word,
but it's it is.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
It is essentially to me like it's a perfect film.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I haven't been in years. I think it's coming back
to theaters for its twentieth.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Later later because I saw it. I've seen it, like
we've done it.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
It's been like assigned and seen script analysis classes and stuff,
and it is just everything about that movie. The acting
is phenomenal. The script is perfect, Wow it is. The
shots are gorgeous, and it's so distinctly. It is at
once about how everyone in America is trapped in this colonizing,

(23:43):
patriarchal and it's also at the very same time it's
about these really two specific men who are in love,
these two people that we follow in their lives. So
it's so micro and macro, it's so it. It's just
it's an amazing, incredible film that has stood a test
of time, like holds up the way.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Whereas Crash, like you said, you know, lots of good
work going on hard in the right place, but it
kind of almost instantly a year later, felt dated, like
it is so of its specific time. Yeah, you know
that it kind of immediately just feels not like a
classic you can't rewatch that you know over and over again.

(24:24):
And going back to scientology, I'm pretty sure I think
what's his name, Paul Hagis, writer director of Crash is
a scientologist, right, I think, so what or not anymore?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Not anymore?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
And he's one of the one. It's funny. I was
actually gonna mention him because he was like, you know,
I thought to myself, what's the harm almost like, Okay,
this is kind of bonkers, but a lot of religions
are and if my family's happy, and he was like,
and then my daughter came out to me, and then
she came out to her school, and the school told
me they wanted to send her away because you cannot
be gay in scientology. It's an operation. Yeah, they'll get

(24:59):
it out of you. And he was like, upon hearing
that they wanted to send my daughter away to a
like a school where they were gonna like a conversion
therapy her, he was like, I was like, no, no,
this is bullshit. And they were like, if this is bullshit,
then you can't have access to all of this blah
blah blah. And he was like, well, then I'm going
to tell everyone when he saw that they were going

(25:20):
to actively harm his child, and then he realized, oh,
I've been kind of putting blinders onto that and I can't.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like so fuck yeah for him, like wow, yeah, bro.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, you know what Crash is a great movie.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Take movie you guys don't understand is anybody no nobody.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Hello, I don't think anyone's here.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
We saw this movie together in the theater yes, we
did tell me about close. What you remember of that
of that time at all? Do you remember seeing it
on the big screen? What'd you think? Who else were
we with? Was it you, me and Lauren or.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
And someone else? Put not not must have been someone else.
I can't remember. There are ones that I remember, like
I specifically remember DreamCatcher, just you.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
And oh my god, gnarly movie.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, wild, but and just I think it was just
you and me for like the Exorusist New Beginnings or whatever.
Definitely when when the film real Yeah, that was five millimeter.
It got caught right.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
If our listeners are familiar that we are.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Now on the millimeter, we understand because everyone just so,
just so everyone knows, because we weren't recording them. We
were trying to figure out we were talking about sinners
and seventy millimeters. Yeah, we were trying to figure out,
like what's like regular millimeters?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, thirty five we used to watch when we com
back in.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Them, So it must have been thirty five because it
was it was the projector yeah, we're filming totally.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
That was That was a moment that was more memorable
than that movie. I can't tell you what happened in
the movie, but I know the.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well I remember exactly who else do we see.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
And where do you think we were? Do you think
we were at Lowe's Cherry Hill.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I feel like it was Lowe's Cherry I think. So
that's just but I could be conflating.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
If we went to teach Fridays.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yes, hell yeah, we would have. We would have tell
you that might as.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well start making plans for the spoof, right, I.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Know, Oh my god, and we did almost instantly.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
House of Sax has The House of Sax itself as
a film is incredible.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh, but like, where were we going.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
With We just like literally were like what rhymes with
wax sacks with Avenue Sax.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
And it's like, so you're playing Paris in a blonde
wig and the spam alot slippers I got from Broadway.
You were wearing slippers and you're like, well, a Simple Life.
The Simple Life was a big deal. What a great show.
And I just remembered I still need to watch there.
They did like an Encore, a reboot for Peacocks, a
couple of my god, I need to watch it. Yeah,

(27:46):
but they were iconic Paris and Nicole and so our
idea for House of Sacks. I'll post at least clips
of it everybody if I hopefully can find it. But
I mean Kit's chase, her death scene was so much
fun in my convertible.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I do have to say, like I had written down
to so, we have done many many spoofs, and you
and I not spoofs, are actors and have dedicated our
lives to making movies like we continue to do so,
so let me tell you, like, so we took it
very seriously back in the day, and like we can
smile and giggle now, and like we smiled and giggled
and the entire time, But there was like a seriousness

(28:23):
in it too that I must say. I thought I
was like the range that I thought Kitchen was showing
by playing Paris Hilton instead of the final girl. I
was like, no, this time, I'm gonna play the blonde
damsel who's scared and she's not smart and she doesn't know.
I'm like, I'm going to show the world that I.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Know because Alicia.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Also, because how dare I'm aline? Alicia one of the
most beautiful.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Even in the oversized tank and like it's a it's
a wig. I'm pretty sure she's wearing a wig.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Right, I think she was blonde, wildly different with her
regular blonde girl next to her hair, which is still
very stunning.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
But it's funny. Ash and I were talking.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
He was like, I loved her in that blonde. He's like,
I think she blonde. Yeah, And he was like, and
of course every every person who's ever had a boner
or felt anything for a girl got felt it during
the girl.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
She was like she was like Marilyn Monroe, like for
two thousand and four, like yeah, like, oh man, what
a babe. Yeah, So it was funny told her sort
of dressed down a little bit to be.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
The found I was girl next actual girl.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
She's got like an auburn kind of like crinkly, like
a little curly like it's working, right, But yeah, it's
so funny because they probably are like, well, Alicia, so
we have Paris Hilton, and so we can't have two blondes,
so we're gonna need to put you at a wig. Hopefully
she was cool with it, but I wonder, you know,
you just wonder, like was she like, oh, well wait,
like I want to look like.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Me, you know, like, yeah, like I'm stuf is just
rising I'm I did feel so you So you haven't
rewatched recently The.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
House of the behind the Scenes, No tell me you
have to.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's fucking fascinating. I have an entire page.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's just watch the episodes in that.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Nash and I watched the whole movie and then we
were like put it on Slap Lincoln is another two hours.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It was fucking amazing. I'm Alitia, I'm Jed, Jed, I'mbarison.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
We're making a movie in Australia.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
The legendary producer Joel silver Boss. He's hot, I mean
by it's some cameras along to capture the.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Madness, thrilled, insanity, the chaos of making a movie.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
You know, it's not always about what happens between action cuts.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
This is a movie life house and lax. So I
learned Alicia Cuthbert.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
It's pronounced Alicia because I was always saying Alicia, Alicia.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, because it's it's any spelling. Yeah. I don't know
if she's Canadian. She might be. She is, yeah, so
like maybe it's a little you know, but yeah Alicia.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, yeah, some kind But so Alicia Cuthbert, she came
on later than everyone else. Oh, which they didn't say why,
but all Jared Pedaleki and Paris both talked in there,
like talking, and they were filming it like a reality show,
like they were just like five actors picked to be
in this and they're like, we're in Australia, like these

(31:27):
silomo things and their heads turning around and stuff, and
they even had like okay, oh man. So that was
what made Ash and I watching the movie, were like,
they're really mean to each other. We were really mean
to our friends back in two thousand and tie. And
then we were like, and Ash was positing, did we
get meaner as did the the main characters of horror

(31:48):
films get meaner because our deaths were getting more gruesome?
Did we feel like we had to earn it? I
maybe making them trashier people?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And I was like, but then seeing that, seeing how
how they.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Were talking like as regular people, like behind the scenes
and now some of that is put on too.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, but seeing that, I was like, oh no.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
And then remembering how we were to each other and
to ourselves, I was like, oh no, I think I
think we were meaner in our language. I think it's
exactly like twenty one Jump Street, The New one where
they were like when we graduated, it was like really
cool to be hateful, and like four years later the
complete opposite. It was really lame to not be thinking about,
to not be unpacking your hateful thoughts.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh, thank god, thank god we progressed because I mean
we had a great especially high school, we had a
great forty. Yeah, the people were harsh, the jokes were cruel,
and I don't know where it started. It's something in
pop culture, I think.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
And it's like I don't want to blame it all
on nine to eleven, but it didn't fucking help maybe,
but honestly, even before that then we went to war.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
We went to war. But like when you think of Scream,
you know, like their their dialogue at the Fountain, I'm.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like, they're very fucking mean, they're.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Into each other. You know, it's all in jokes and
Matthew Lillard's got his tongue out, but I mean they're
all like you could never you fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's like, yeah, you know, like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, just that era, like around two thousand just was
a time. And then of course even two thousand and five,
not until I feel like, I don't know when it changed,
but luckily we got nicer to each other. For the
most part, we became more aware of like oh wait,
yeah that might really hurt you. Well, that really is
not cool for me to like just assume that I

(33:33):
can say, like, hey, my, I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Know, yeah, and I that would be an interesting one
to unpack. And I know, I'm sure there are scholars
who have what caused that change?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
What? What would I mean?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Part of it is the pendulum swings back and forth,
but like I am interested as to what set that off?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Like where when did we reach critical mass?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
For like we have to stop being like this was
that like e prey love, Like what when did we
like reach a point where we're like enough enough?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
But I just think of like the like Chad Michael Murray,
you know, Jared Padalaki. I don't get like the.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Blessed Chad Michael Murray. I don't know who he is
actually now in person. I don't know if he was
playing a part in behind the scenes, but he seems nice,
comes off like a this is twenty this is twenty
years ago. And again, I know, Chad, listen, I.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Thought you were gonna say, like a doll.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
A doll of a douche bag, like a douchebag, doll.
Don't feel me to get and make up done.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I'm so scared.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
He says that he proposes to Sophia Bush behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oh wait does Chad or Chad okay god.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Dolls and she says yes, they like set up the
thing where he like makes her go out to look
off the balcony. And he had his assistant right like
I love you in like vote of candles.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
But everyone's laughing about his dog because Chad keeps going
on and on being like, I need an alpha dog.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I need the biggest dog in the pack. I'm an
alpha I need the alpha dog.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
And it actually becomes Jared Paddle starts like wandering around
set being like, you guys an alpha dog. Yeah, Jared
Padileci comes off like a boy wonder as I as
I knew I've always loved Oh.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Wait, oh okay, okay, I thought I thought you were saying,
Jared Padalechi.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay, it comes off he comes off like a dog.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Okay, good. I had a feeling. I just asked a feeling.
I'm like, Jared doesn't seem like a dick. But okay,
Chad was.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Chad came out his name. I literally wrote down, where
did I go? The man's name is Chad? Talking about
alpha males.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's like it was. It was wild.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
It's like literally literally an irol. The whole thing is like.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
And then he goes to the vet and the vet
finds out that his dog only has one testicle.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
This is bringing me back. I just remembered that. Whoa,
And he's like annoyed.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Right, yeah, he's pissed.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
And then oh boy, Jared Padiluki, It's like it was
fucking Christmas. He's like, he's the uniballer, right, He's theer
call him sideball and Chad Michael Mary was yeah, he
was like, it's cool. He was like yelling at the
driver of the car, who was like, it's cool. My
dog can do more with one ball than any other dog.

(36:19):
He's gonna he's gonna have sex with your wife tonight.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
What Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
God. I was like, Sophia run and it is honey
to see because they.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Are not I mean yeah, I mean Sophia is a
lesbian now.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
And she was like, get the fuck out of you. No,
that's for when you realize your trance, not for but
she saw the sign, and it opened up her eyes.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
She saw the sign, I don't really dress like my
character in my life.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
Though it was an Harris gets this cute one ray
I get stuck with long John, so I thought, you know,
this isn't fair.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
How do Alicia and Paris come across in the show?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Alicia is tactful as fuck. She comes across she is
and you can tell she well. Like the very first
scene that Paris had was a night they had a set,
not even set call time. Set call time had to
have been like three you're called to or maybe not set.

(37:19):
I guess make hair and makeup would have hair call
would have been three. And then there set is four.
They're they're starting at four, and it was Paris Hilton's
first night and she was anxious and she wouldn't leave
her trailer.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh uh huh, and Alicia cut. Now.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I don't know how long it lasted. It could have
been a ten minute thing. I'm Paris said later she
had like a panic attack. She did look really nervous.
She did when she came out, she was like, I'm
gonna throw up. I feel so scared, and I know
that I know she must have felt, you know, everyone's
called literally calling for your blood.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Like that's what really struck.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Me her, any any young actress you know.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
On a horror set, but especially No.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
They were like Paris Hilton, we want to see her die. Yes,
it was very like celebrity death match in a very
creepy like. It did feel like we were angry. We
wanted to punish her for being hot and rich and
a girl and very popular, which had been which was
not something she released. I constantly like she sued him

(38:28):
for that money, but she she made that as a
sex tape.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
For them to have.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
She didn't like make a porn you know, but she
she didn't do and god bliss usin Diamond's allowed to
do whatever, but she didn't do a screech where he
was like, I'm actually filming a pornography and then are
sleeping with me because it's a porn But anyway, she
so I understand her being frightened, But Alicia Cuthbert was
just doing the most tactful She was like, of course,

(38:54):
can we really nerve wracking and you're like one of
the top ones on the call sheet and you've got
to And she was like, but it's a really good
idea to like come out of the trailer and like
maybe run a couple of lines with your scene partner
and then you can relax. And then they were talking
constantly about Paris's singing career.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Oh that's behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
And Alicia go she was like, so, yeah, Paris Is,
they're really talking about her singing career because I guess
that's something she's really doing and and good for her.
I mean, she has a way better voice than I do.
Like she is so tactful. Yeah, she was so tactful.
And I mean stars are blind as a fucking bop.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, but I read yeah very so

(39:40):
they they come up and when they all went home,
holy shit, they were all. The only person who seemed
like he had fun. I mean they all said they
had fun, but the only person who seemed like he
was like that was a good time at the very
end of shooting was Jared Patal.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Jared okay, which I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
He had to be covered in wax did Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Honestly, out of the four of them, Paris kind of
has the least like crazy stuff to do because he
had Jared's like naked with all that. I mean, I
assume that's him. I don't know if that was a
stunt actor, but.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
There were four different one it was him. He had
a stunt he had. They all had to get sprayed
with wax, the lead, the stunt performer for the lead.
There was another stunt performer I believe maybe for like
close up stunt like or close up doubling, and then
it all his stand in also had to get sprayed.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Geez.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, well they all look like him. I mean I
never all looked like, you know, same like body and everything,
because he's like naked.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
They showed a Lee show when she had to fall
down the hill into the PI and she went fucking
flying like she She didn't hurt herself, so I know
that it was okay, but she like the first fall
down the hill was like a five foot outward drop
and then she hit it and like rolled.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I was like, holy yes, and then even scarier.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Do you recall I wouldn't have known this if I
didn't know about if I hadn't watched the thing behind
the scenes.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Did you know the entire set burnt down? It's so funny,
had Michael Murriott in it.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Completely forgot about that, but I remember it was on
the show and I as I was looking on the
on the films wiki and like just getting any other trivia,
there's a hole. There was like a lawsuit over like
negligence with this fire. Completely forgot until today that, Yeah,
that was a real I guess a lot of the
movie it's it's fake fire or you know, but I
guess there really was a fire that shut down part

(41:36):
of this Like.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
A lot of the movie was real fire. And the
set was made of wax.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
It was really made of real wax.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Really, why did they do that?

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I mean, hello, but.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Because it looked so fucking it looked awesome. The practical
effects of this movie are mind blowing.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
So this movie doesn't get enough credit for not the
whole things that it actually did. Cinematography.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Cinematography is great.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Death set. We'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Every good everyone, and especially from.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Everyone kind of has like their bad moment. But then
there's like at least it's like double it's at least
two great moments from everyone for everyone.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, like every bad moment, especially Alicia. I believed her.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
The Alicia is great. Alicia is such a being like
a final girl. She is so good in this.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Heyes, that house wax.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
It is literally this is weird.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
People kind of, I think, just naturally kind of want
to shoot on this because it's a remake. It's of
This Time two thousand and five, which was iffy. It
had Paris Hilton as life.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
It's the face and ash pose this question, and it's
very do it's a very good question. Do you think
so I paras Hilton. I think she's a great person,
and I think.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I think she's a comedy queen, which is never comedy queen.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Oh that really quickly before I get into that. That
was something that.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Massively struck me about this is first of all, when
Paris plays Paige, the Paris Hilton you see in the
movie is not She's not playing herself.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
She's playing this other character.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
That has her actual voice, that has the voice that
Paris Hilton has when she's.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Just talking to her friends, right and lower, deeper, just
more just like a regular person voice. Yeah, well she there.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Are so many She turns it on for the camera
because it's the part. That's her job, Yes, to play
this part of like like that's her job all the time, all.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
The time, that's her, that's her personality.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Quote yes, quote right, yes, So she would do. There
are times when she didn't know. The biggest one I
think it was in the first of the episodes. She
and Jared are literally doing costume tests in front of
Joe Silver Jola Silver rather, so they're going into the
room and like showing him and coming out and they
run into each other outside and there she doesn't see

(44:08):
that the camera's on them and they're just talking as
two actors, two colleagues on the set. He goes he
was like, oh, is is wardrobe over there? And she
was like, yeah, I think they wanted us to go
to wardrobe there, and then I think we're supposed to
just come over here and check with him.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
And he was like, okay, cool, so I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
She was like, yeah, and I'll see you in a sack,
and as she went i'll see you in a seck,
she caught but the camera was there. She goes, I'll
see in a sack by it, and Ash was like
when she goes like, she does it half and half
when the camera's on her and she knows it half
the time. Sometimes she does still talk normal and then

(44:45):
realizes it again and comes But when she's in her
talking heads, that's when she gets into characters.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Chris talks like that.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yes, And because she's able to just get her character
on and sit down, like when she moves, her voice
goes lower because she has to support it.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
It was fascinating seeing I'm like, wow, this literal.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
I am so excited to rewatch these episodes. You are
getting that so excited. I'm so bummed I didn't have
a chance to but yeah, and you know, it just
makes me wonder. Yeah, like I hope and assume that
that voice was her idea and that someone didn't kind
of say, like you should like talk sexier.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, because I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I know because I know with Britney Spears it was
her dad made her stop singing the way she used
to sing on Star Search and he was like, make
it higher, make it Yeah. But I don't know if
it came from Paris or not. But I do know
I do feel confident that she was. She was owning
it at the time. At the time, she was like,
I know what I'm doing and I know who I am.

(45:53):
It was inarguably stunt casting. It was casting her. It
was really her first acting role. Casting her because of
her name and because this will be absolutely and because
she was going to die, because they would kill her,
and that's what they And it's one of the.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Few slashers, at least of that time, to really promote
a character's death. Usually you want to save that stuff.
You show the little glimpses of a chase of a night,
you know, but you want to keep that. But this
was all about no, come to the theater and see her.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Die, and see her die, so.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
No wonder there was pressure on her, right, I mean,
you're in a horror movie. People know you're gonna die,
so it better be a good death.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Worth Yeah, you bet.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You better be good or or at least so bad
you're good, like you better bring it in all these
different ways.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yes, And she's actress is not being killed like our
scenes are the scenes that are scaring.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
The shit out of her that she's like, I have
to like act.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
It's all the like talking. Yeah. I mean, when you
think about it, we have the opening with the boys,
which was like the Back in the Day nineteen seventy four,
which is very interesting. Forgot about that, and that made
me think of another remake of this time that you
and I saw and smoothed Black Christmas. The opening of
this really makes me think of Black Christmas Arena, where
that had lots of flashbacks to kids and violence. But

(47:11):
so we have that, and then when we go to
present day, it's basically Alicia and Paris like starting it off,
like we are watching, you know, Jennifer love Hewitt and
Sarah Michelle Geller, like the girls are like.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
We're supposed to be on their side. Yes, we love
their There is.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
No other woman in the movie. It's just these two,
which is sort of surprising. Also for a slasher. It's
very male heavy, when typically you kind of have at
least a few more ladies, you know, So it's just
you can tell Harris exactly right. I wonder why Alisha
was so late to be cast. I wonder if they
were trying to go for someone else.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I wondered that too, or if it had been cast
and it was a recast it was a recast. Yeah,
I don't know. You know, maybe.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Also because I know she was on twenty four, twenty
four until the year prior. I believe, so this this
probably shot in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
And four, and she was I never watched twenty four,
but when I saw she was Bauer was her last name,
So she was his daughter.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yes, I believe she's daughter's huge.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, she was definitely known. That was like a breakout.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Oh yeah, she was probably most famous for that show,
which is yeah, something I didn't watch either, which is
kind of crazy. So yeah, let me actually, since we're
talking about this, let me now just quickly tell you,
uh you know, we'll tell everyone where people were in
their careers, just a few of them. Okay, So Alicia,
like we said, twenty four Girl next Door, Hattie Action
Gritty makes sense, right. Chad Michael Murray we mentioned, was previously.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
On Dawson's Creek Rub part of Rob.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Can we talk about this buzz cut was so justin
Timberlake Post and sink. Yes, he was obviously huge in
his solo career. Chad was giving major justin what an
absolute babe bah right, But I'm not surprised he was
a dick. So he of course was on Dawson's. He
was of course on One Tree Hill with.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
He had just done Cinderella Story with Lizzie McGuire Hillary
Duff right, Yeah, and had also of course just done
Freaky Friday the remake. He was the remake boy with
Lindsay and Jamie. Of course now they're all back for
the new one coming out later this year, so history
is repeating itself, right, can not wait? And then I'll
cap it off with Paris, like we said, not really

(49:22):
an actress, but of course used to playing a character
for years right between videos Socialites and of course you
know the Simple Life Show. Right now, director again, I
think it's John May Collette Sarah. I cannot believe this
is his first feature film. He had done like an
Enrique Glazy's music video. Maybe he did some other music videos,

(49:43):
but like you know, they took a risk on him,
and this movie I think is a very well made movie.
Very few minor to me, minor things that I would
have changed, but like, like we're saying, beautiful cinematography, like
some great overheads. Some I love that shot of a
Leasha's in the house with the brothers and she's rolling
under the table and the camera's moving, yes, yes, the camera.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
The way the camera moves right and the set.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Not enough can be said about how they went to
Australia to save money as well.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Which I remember twenty years ago hearing that, I'm like, Australia,
what the heck, like you couldn't just shoot this in
the South, like I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Like yeah, like tax breaks and tax breaks and like
the American dollar goes farther and certain places, and so.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Now we have tariffs or whatever on foreign films, so whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Every film is a foreign film. I was like, are
you fucking.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Also, the way to fix that is make it cheaper
or better or even to shoot in the US. Don't
penalize yeah whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Because so much.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how it works. And
also it's one of our largest exports, so we really
we really need to get it right.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Well, I like how it seems like so far. He
kind of quickly sort of back down like okay, well
yeah you guys, let me know.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
He likes to say crazy ship and then see if
anyone's gonna you're actually.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Gonna be like, well wait a minute, you know. But
because John Voight is like, you know, sort of trying
to normalize it a touch, He's like, okay, my buddy
John John.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, anyway, but John Voight know about making a movie
today to day.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Today maybe like a good you know, anaconda you know, back.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, yeah, right, we don't make movies like Anna, We
Don't Think and House of Wax had.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
A huge budget from the movie that it was.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yes, I wonder if part of it was because I
think the building of the town was incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh my god, itself all.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I wish they kept it. That would have been an
amazing like Halloween Horrnites go to this town, this faga
House of Wax town with fake wax people in the windows.
I mean, are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Now?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
The people who were in the church were living extras
that they made latex masks. Wow.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
So they had to stay still, holy.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Shit, totally still and do it and every now and then, yeah,
at last would be like, oh my god, he just laughed.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I forgot. That's the person in there, and he's like
his mouth isn't moving, but he's just it's.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Kind of a great gig. I mean, you don't need to,
you know, because extra work. Let me do the same
thing over and over. It's like, Okay, I just sit
here and I just still. I'm part of the cool.
I'm very cool, and just it's like action. It's like okay, yeah,
I'm ready. Right. The whole thing was actually wax.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
I think it was like there were solid structures underneath,
and then there was the wax. And then what they
were saying was there was fire retardant things like drapes
and stuff, but take after take, the wax melted onto
them until they were no longer fire retardant, where in fact,
just melted wax. Oh my god, that caught fire and

(52:48):
it just went up and Chad Michael Murray. Yeah, Chad
was like, he goes, I was doing a scene. The
guy hits him to the ground and he was like,
and I felt my knuckles. He kept saying, I remember
this hobbling. I don't know if he meant that he
felt the skin bubbling, if the heat made him feel
as though his blood was bubbling, or if he literally

(53:08):
just felt bubbling of the wax on, but whatever it was,
it was Yeah. And then there's another time later on
when they rebuild and come back. They had two weeks
off they had to rebuild come back, and they even
maybe even longer.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
And then when he came.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Back, there was a part where the set is melting
and something hit his head and he lost his mind.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
He was screaming like a bit of a Christian male.
And then he turned he goes, and now the fucking
cameras are on me while I have my melts down. Great,
that's great. But and he was, I mean, fair fucking enough.
He was shouting. He's like, I am a fucking professional,
I'm never late. I have all my lines, I'm hitting
my marks. If you tell me something's gonna hit my head,
I can be okay with that. But I was almost

(53:51):
set on fire a couple of weeks ago, and I
can't have the set falling down in my head. He's like,
this isn't fucking safe. It's not just me, this isn't
safe for everyone else. Like he was absolutely right, like, yeah, yeah,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I totally get it. I honestly would probably be doing
the same thing I think. I mean, you just survived
one insane thing.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, And you're like, I'm sorry, the set's falling apart,
Like are you fucking kidding me? Are you hitting me
with this right now? Like I'm doing my job. Who
is not doing theirs.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
That the set is falling on my head? Jared Padileki
had to go through.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
He was very scared about it's real wax, it's real
liquid wax that they are pouring on, not all over
the face or whatever, but that he had to have
it be on his hand for for real, and he
keeps like being and they were kind of playing it
up in the edit to make it look like he
was being a diva being.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Like but I'm like, yeah, they're gonna pour hot wax
on a.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, we've all seen the Ricky Martin Live in Levita
Loca video with the hot wax on him.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Like, yes, I get hurt.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I mean, yeah, it's gonna be a.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Sensation welca where her Vita is at the very least?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Okay? Now in our spoof house of sex, I remember
the cast. I can't remember, so refresh my memory from
what you remember. I think our killers were were they
Nicole Ritchie and was it Britney Spears?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I think Nicole Richie was one of the killers.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Nicole is one of the killers because she's upset that Paris.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Did something without her right.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And I know our killers were Mel and tam because
I'll never forget. Oh no, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
No, Tamara was Tamra was Chad.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Tamra was Chad.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Oh my, she wore she wore the shirt, the T shirt.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
She wore a tank top over a dress. I remember, Yes.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
She was Justica Bile, Jessica Biel, because's character in It's
again these.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Ladies Jessica Bill, Elijah douch Coup, Eliza Alicia. Right, they
all are the same.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
So yeah, they're all that's right.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
But who played Jessica Biel if it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
You, because I normally it would have been me and
I was no, I'm going was it.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Like Laurence Smith or was it Cassie like Man, I
can't remember.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Dylan was Jared Padileki and you you were the videotape guy.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Okay, I was a dualted something where.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
We pretended to kick you down my basement step right, yes,
And I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
It was we had something like my mom.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Had, like uh, some art teachers that like a long
tube like a cardboard tube or something that we were
pretending was like the thing that that somehow like I
can't remember.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I love I love that death in the movie that
because it's so brilliant to like not see it and
then see.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
And then see it.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I think, although upon seeing it more, I was like, no,
you need you need the viscera you need.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah, He's sort of like it is reverse, Yeah, is
it like like the way he does it, it's sort
of like he points down, but I feel like you'd
have to go like swipe.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
You know, like he does it down into it, but
i'd yeah, you more. But I guess maybe it caused.
Maybe it's severed enough it caused.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
It's sort of like scissors. It's sort of two nines
becoming scissors.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah. Yeah, but then you need to do a gut.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah. Then you gotta kind of bring them all the
way to the ground.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
To really pulling. Is the pulling up it.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Pull I know because I remember the way it shot.
It's the scissors. But then as he pulls the body,
the scissors kind of move a little bit.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, and then it cuts to the other side, and
you see.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
It's a pretty great death. I have to say, yeah,
we got some lot death. Hold your thought on death
because I want to hear your favorite too. But okay,
so yeah, I was that guy. Dylan was Jared, you
were Paris. Of course. I think Melissa was Nicole Richie
because I I remember, Okay, I think the killers were
if I remember correctly now, it wasn't Britney Spears. I
think it was Nicole Ritchie and Lindsay Lowen because this

(57:49):
is when Lindsay's started becoming a bad girl. So our
killers were the bad girls being like Paris. Why are
you not going to sacks with us? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, maybe it was about like you're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Why are you hanging out with these people?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah, come to sack?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Because I remember very well, for whatever reason, I remember
your whole chase scene during Holliback Girl, and I remember
Mel looking at Cameron saying, where's Lindsay when I need her?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
See that's I remember my look to camera. I was
screaming running as Paris being like a.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Acting's hard.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Oh my god, yes, oh wow, this is bringing me back.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yes. And then of course Sara Michelle Geller reprising her
role at the cutout of Sara Michelle Geller as Buffy
reprising her role as my stunt.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
As your stunt double, your stand in the whatever we
threw it light, Yes.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
It went in it like it folded in on itself,
someone's lightsaber.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Yeah, oh my god, Okay, I have to find this
so badly. God, we had so much fun. And yet
now that I remember it, I think I was wearing
like a trucker hat. Not only like Dalton, but to
also tie it into Ashton cut your punked era as
well with the whole yeah, oh my god, I remember.
And we shot it mostly at your house.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Yeah yeah, all at and then a very weird I
remember that night I had something happen where like my
vision like shifted and I thought something like I was
dizzy suddenly, and we went to the hospital and they
said I was just dehydrated. But I do also always
remember that when the House of Wax was like our
House of Sax was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
So when we were when we were wrapped, when we were.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Down the hospital, I ended up going to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Wow, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No, I don't think it was when anyone was even there.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, but still just like I forgot you, I'm sure
told the next day I was like, yes, I went
to Wow, that was like your first on set like
injury and sacks.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
And I just like got dizzy.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
Looks like a hell of a party.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Look how detailed this is. Tell me this doesn't look real. Okay,
So out of all of our deaths, let's go through
them real quick, because this movie's got some like I
mean Jared Petal, like he's our first one. It takes
a little bit. You know, we don't really have there's
no opening death, which I like, there's no we're just
kind of getting to this group because you know, the

(01:00:21):
movie isn't short. It feels great. I wouldn't change anything
with timing, but at an hour and like fifty three minutes,
I think with credit, so I mean we're we than yes,
not like a ninety minute, you know, like for a
movie where there's really just kind of one setting, one
group of friends. There's not a lot of cops, there's
not a lot of like side characters, you know, but

(01:00:43):
so Jared is our first one to get it. And
again going back to Texas Chainsaw, it feeled the remake,
it feels very much like that actor Eric Balfour, his
kind of snooping around the house like he's the first
one to really get a gnarly death. So I feel
like the writers, which the writers were Chad Hayes and
Carrie W. Hayes. So the Hayes brothers very hazing, right, right,

(01:01:05):
The Hayes twins and then brothers with siblings are a
big deal in this movie. Of course, we know, right, yes,
and of course everybody I forgot to say before we
continue the deaths based on the original idea from Charles Belden. So, k, kit,
have you ever actually seen the Old House of Wax movies?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
There's not front to back. Oh okay, I've seen parts
of the Vincent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I've seen the Vincent Price One more.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Than I'm only thinking of just yeah, the one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
So there's two. Technically I did. I for totally forgot
that Vincent Price One is a remake. The original is
Mystery of the Wax Museum from nineteen thirty three. Yes,
so Charles Belden. Let me see that one was written
by Don Molalley and Carl Erickson from the story by
So Charles Belden has always been story bye all of

(01:01:54):
these Wax movies. So he came up with the idea.
He got credit for the Vincent Price One, which is
not like this whatsoever. I've never seen the nineteen thirty
three one, so I don't know. It just says the
disappearance of people in corpses leads a reporter to a
wax museum and a sinister sculptor. Okay, so that's basically
the gist of the Vincent Price One, where it's a sculptor.

(01:02:15):
It's in the city. I think it's in London if
I remember correctly, it's right. This is very different. It's
more Texas Chainsaw. I've never seen it. Maybe you have
a wrong turn, a very wrong turn again that the
tank Top was just doing the work.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Righting the tank Top and the deep American South.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Which just exactly yeah, because Alicia even says, oh man,
it's getting dark already, I hate winter. Meanwhile they're sweating,
so I'm like, okay, yeah, we just were into like
the hillbilly South, like wrong turn right. But I've never
seen it. But most people actually say this is really
a remake of Taurist Trap. Have ever seen Tourist Trap?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
No, I've not seen tosh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
It's on Peacock, So I feel like we need to
watch that asap. That I believe was seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Nine, Okay, because late seventies Trapp also have a remake.
Or maybe I'm just thinking less Touristas, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
You're thinking, yeah, you're thinking Touristas. Yeah, yeah, which I'm
sure is similar. But that was an exotic location. Tourist
Trap I think also was the South Tourist Trap nineteen
seventy nine. So right after Halloween, same year as Alien,
after the success of Texas Chainsaw, a group of young
friends stranded at a secluded roadside museum are stoked by

(01:03:25):
a masked assailant who uses his telekinetic powers to control
the attraction's mannequins. Oh so different but very somach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I would love to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Yeah, yeah, we really do have to watch it. Yeah,
that's a price one you might remember from the clips
you've seen. It's in a city. I love it, but
it is so not this at all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
It's like, yes, you know, and when Alicia and Jared
are in the house or in the museum for and
I will say also as a kid, I was like
Jared Paddolick, He's so innocent and good, why would they
ever hurt him? But seeing it as an adult, I
was like, he broke into every single fucking place around.
He was the guy was fifteen minutes late coming back
from a loved one's funeral and he's like, well, let's

(01:04:04):
just go in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
God, he's taken forever.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It was like the man told you he buried someone married,
like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
He's walking around the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
But then I think it's Alicia who says there's on
or one of them says, there's a newspaper article that's
like this woman Trudy is a famous like wax sculptor,
and she was like or no, yeah, she goes, what's
like a famous who's ever been a famous wax sculptor?
And Ash was in the other room and he goes,
motherfucker's acting like there ain't no Madame Tussau's like, there's

(01:04:38):
an iconic wax sculptor who's known by her surname.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Who has a house of wax in every major city.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, and it's not like those all popped up in
like two thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Like girl, he came from like the French Revolution time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Not actually right, she was laid eighteen hundreds yeah, yeah right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
It's like you know better, you've never heard that, You've
never never heard.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Of one maybe one famous.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
They are all they are all kind of country pumpkins,
because am I right? They kind of like poke fun
at how Jared Patlechi either lives in a small town
wants to go to New York or doesn't like New York,
but he wants.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
A small because she says what it was in that
he wants to live in a small town, which I
think we're supposed to Maybe she wants to go to
New York because I think we're supposed to feel like
there's tension.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
There's a little yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
She says, oh what, like, where is there a famous
you know, wax person? And he goes, well, it's a
small town. And she goes, oh, I forgot you like
small town yes, and wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Leave New York and she oh, that's right. Okay, So
maybe she's not a country bumpkin, even though girl, you're
in New York City because I do love. In the
very beginning, Paris Page tells Carly. She says, like, you know,
congrats on your internship at in Style, which I was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Like, wow, I love an internship at in Style magazine
two thousand and five was coveted position.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
You know it absolutely I forgot all about in Style.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
And then where's this game that we're all going.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I know this game. They're so focused on this game
and then the trap and then they give up with traffic.
It's like if the game was that popular, guys, how
are you surprised there's traffic?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
And like why did you stop?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
When she was like, we should just stop tonight, like no,
we have to make it to like the field of
the game and then camp there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, the stopping is well, I know there's the detour, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, and it takes I mean just cross off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
The detour from the to do list, right. But yet
so they're so upset about this detour, like they're immediately like,
oh shit, this sucksh Okay, it might just it might
just be like go down there and then turn left.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
And yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
We're like also like why'd you take it if it
was gonna be overnight and it just saved you an hour?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
The guy was like, it looks like it'll save us
an hour. I was like, just doone that's real, take
the real road.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Because Jared's character Wade, small town Wade name God, we
got Wade, we got Carly Page, Dalton, random, Dalton's the
rich boy. What's Chad's name? Nick, I just call him Chad.
And that Blake.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Paris Hilton's who also feel I don't think he was famous,
but he feels like stunt casting is just like here's
a sexy guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
But the sexy guy out of all these characters, which
who's and you can include the killers as well, who's
your favorite death?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Favorite death is Jared Padilaki hands down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
It's so it's because it doesn't happen till the very end,
does it. It never happens until the wax the House
of Wax melts. I was like, this man had to
get everything waxed off his face, which like, and I
also turned to Asher was like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Well, that's we know for a fact that that's not
how waxing. You'd have to pull like four times, do
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I know, I know. It just was a little bit
of wax really and then like one then one pole.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
I was like, no, you can't, you have to you
have to go up to this part of the plane
and this part and this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I've like, I've seen enough.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
People like in like Saudi Royals on Instagram get their wax.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
They're like, it is interesting that Vincent waxed Wade's face
to then put on like eyebrows and maybe even facial
hair when he's a wax figure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Right, But I have to say it reminds me of
like when I see makeup artists who are doing really
intense makeup.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Sometimes they'll like glue down there them off to draw.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Yeah, it's interesting like no, no, no, I'm doing a
whole new bone structure on you, bab.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You've got to go down to the base level and
then and then build you back up baby, and then
play with your nips. Then yes, we see some major
boobage from a wax figure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Who you know that that's a part, that's a person.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
That girl is getting felt up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
And is she alive at the time or is she
because some of them are scary. See I saw, I know.
Just it's like he's making the nipple hard. He's doing
it until it isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I know, he's really like circling that aol And like
the cameras, Like, yeah, speaking of cameras real quick, going
back to Paris' sex tape and you know it's also
in the wake of Blair Witch. Of course, Yes, guys,

(01:09:36):
I was just getting my lip bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
She's just she's just getting her lips, right. I feel
like the mass being like ladies and gentlemen, she's everyone
is telling everyone about the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
But like it is very interesting to see. I don't
that's where my brain goes, maybe because Paris is in
this movie, you know, and not everything is night vision.
And I do love the handheld like video camera, Like
it's actually quite spooky early on, like when they're sleeping
in their tents, Like it's very spooky.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
At that too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Film How does he know how and when to push in?
He's like choosing his mo I was like, if it's
the if it's the guy who's the rapist guy, like
the meaner right, yeah, Bo Bo's been out in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
But Vincent doesn't know how to push it. He's going
to be looking for the zoom to push in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
He's gonna be doing the wrong way. You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
When like Wildlife cuts the camera and I like looking
at it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
It's not wax, but yeah, I just want to shout
out the actual video camera because it's of the time.
It's of that Blair Witch vibe. You know, it makes sense.
But then that night Vision, I'm like Draa Ma whatever
his name is, and team, you know what you're doing.
You're you're making us all think of that video.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
And I wondered if she knew that they would do that, because.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Knowing now what I know about basic instinct that Sharon Stone,
the reason why she removed her under her for the
shot was because she was told the white from your
underwear is bouncing off the it's bouncing off the light,
so we need it to be you won't see anything,
but we need your underwear off so that it'll be
like a dark cavern.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
And then you could see her.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
And he just left it in and she was like,
I don't think I would I would have liked to
begin the option to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
That's honestly, really insane. It's really insane.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
And I wonder if Paris knew because she knew, of
hope want to make a blow job joke.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I hope she knew knew the joke, right, did.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
She know that they were going because that only comes
in post they were going to turn the night vision.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
I wonder. I mean, I hope. I like this director's
work a lot. You know, he's even done like Jungle Cruise.
I haven't seen Jungle Cruise with the rock and I
have it good. It looked fun. No okay, but like you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
But it wasn't. I didn't offend me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Have been it could have been something, yeah, the Shallows.
He's even done like some Liam Neeson thrillers. He did another. Oh,
he did Orphan.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
He did Orphans the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I'm pretty sure. Let me check.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
That was ic movie that it like made people think
that their adopted children were and like some people did
terrible things to their adopted because of how powerful his
art was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Right, uh huh, yep, I'm sure, I'm a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Let it be made without I'm sure they wouldn't give
money for pic.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
It has to be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Yeah, right, no, yeah, So he did House of Wax, Orphan,
he did gold To. I don't know what goal to
Living the Dream is, but good for you for not
doing switching it up House of Wax or I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Don't want to even continue it after goal was right.
Cinematic Universe he has worked on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Oh, he did carry on the Netflix movie that just
came out of Christmas, so boring. I did not like
it with Jason Bateman and Taron Egerton. Oh, he just
did The Woman in the Yard. I just saw that
and it's okay, It's it's fine. That roadkill pit. I
talk about another shot like how you were saying earlier,
how she rolls right into it and then the camera
really goes up and reveals it is. I can smell it,

(01:13:16):
I can feel that moment, like I mean, there are
just such great key moments and then that gets us
Kit to an iconic moment in our lives. Not only
not only does child Michael Murray Nick take off his
tank top. He's got nothing else on. He just takes
it off to offer to his sister, right, who's covered

(01:13:36):
in animal gore. But he does it like minutes later.
Like you would think, I don't know, as I was
reading right away, Yeah, wouldn't you do it right away?
Like oh yeah, get that off in here, just take
this and then and then actually, one thing I would
have changed was, yeah, do it sooner. Have that big
moment which they knew everyone wanted to see, right, And

(01:13:57):
then now you have creepy brother, a roadkilled guy kind
of gawking at her changing. But then also like you're
exposed and yeah, you're a guy, and he's a guy,
and he doesn't seem into guys. But then you can
also like look at your body because he's part of a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Family of filling they're all into bodies. Yeah, it's all
about life. It's like, ooh, those abs would look good
in my brothers right, So.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
That actually would have been really interesting and maybe a
little homophobic if what if he's shirtless for this conversation
with this country bumpkin who's kind of eyeing him up
and down, not in a gay way, although they could
be like that was weird. I guess he's into you.
You know, there'd be a little bit of that, which
I mean tastefully done, you know, right, no homa, But no,
it's he's like, oh, I'm gonna bring you to my

(01:14:40):
brothers because like they could really have fun with you,
which is yeah, you know, so I would have. So
it's just funny because it's like minutes go by, they're
getting weirded up by this guy the smell, and then
as they are about to leave, Chad goes hey. Then
he just like taps her and she's like what and
he takes off his tank top, which I mean amazing,
but even she it's like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
What do you want me to do with this? Like
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
She's directed to kind of be like I'm sorry, yeah,
my brother no.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
My secret thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah yeah, Like if we smooved it now, we'd be
like we'd.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Have we'd have her we had no, yeah, you done.
But now I'm like, that's all I see is you
creepy little freaks. Try them to each other.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Hey, rewinders, I'm pausing our chat for just a moment
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(01:15:51):
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(01:16:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
How are you getting the building with a weapon?

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
We don't have metal detectors downstairs, don't all?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Right? Now back to the House of Wax party, and
I have more friends who want to spill the wax
and spread the love. They are kids. Partner ash Shalina
from The Everything Nineties podcast and Cadou, who is a
frequent contributor to the Radical Retro rewind podcast, say that
five times fast. Here they are with their thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
Hey, this is Ash.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
I just wanted to jump in real quick and say,
first of all, this movie might be one of those
underrated gems of the early two thousand. It's fantastic sets,
practical effects, a lot of really cool, very gory kills,
but not too much in that solid way. I enjoyed
this movie quite a bit. But I think even more
than this movie, I liked the behind the scenes MTV

(01:17:19):
documentary about the movie. This literally might be like the
Hearts of Darkness to House of Wax's Apocalypse. Now, the
behind the scenes is that good. It's it's worth watching,
and it might even be better than the movie itself.
So I'd say check that out. And thanks for bringing
that to my attention, Mark, because that was a fantastic watch.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
All right, have on guys, Hey, Reiley State Rewinded listeners.
This is Shelina from Everything That's podcast, and hello Mark.
This was actually the first horror movie I watched alone.
And if you remember Mark from our episode together, horror
movies are not my thing and I think the reason

(01:18:00):
why I was okay with watching this or was intrigued
was because of Alicia. She was in it, and if
you know Popular Mechanics for Kids, that's the show that
she started on Canadian Classic. So I kind of felt
safe going into watching this movie because I'm like, oh,
I know her, She's familiar. The cast of this movie,

(01:18:22):
they made an appearance on MuchMusic. Much Music was a
music TV station in Canada, and they had an interview
with the cast members they blocked off Queen Street West.
I wasn't there, but I watched it on TV.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Hi got Little Wongo here. House of Wax is actually
one of my favorite slashers from the two thousands, and
I have a funny story with the movie. Actually, when
House of Wax premiered here in Brazil, I was only
sixteen and the movie wasn't allowed for people on their
eighteen So I had to come up with the plan

(01:19:02):
to watch the movie even though I wasn't allowed to,
and we switched rooms and there was a security guard there.
We had to pretend that we were already in the room,
and it was a whole adventure prior to the movie. Anyway,

(01:19:22):
I think it's so fun I love the atmosphere of
the House of Wax, and the kills are very creative.
I love the final girl Carly, I love pages Chasing,
and there's a lot of great qualities in this movie.
The cinematography is great, the soundtrack, the score. So I'm

(01:19:45):
really happy that twenty years later this is a cult classic.
Now they're saying that that's a real person.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Nat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
There are some great intentionally funny, like so gross it's
funny moments where you know you have Dalton, like touching
his face accidentally ripping off skin, and then as the
killer Vincent's right there, which, by the way, guys with
long black hair killers, it's always always terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Again with black Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Black Christmas, you have long hair. We had saw the
pig with long hair. Also, this makes me think of
another movie I'll probably talk about later this year because
it turns twenty five Cherry Falls. Remember Cherry Falls with
the killer and the long black wig, right and the way,
won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it. You
have time to watch that before the odd but yeah, no,

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he's there and as he takes a swipe at Dalton
with a knife or whatever, he then accidentally cuts more
of a wave face off.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
And Jared Padileaki, I think is doing some incredible acting
with just his eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Is that really Jared under there?

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
I think it must be. They didn't say, Okay, I
think it must be. It's his eye color at least
singular tear. And then when it when they cut his face,
he screams without and his eyes roll in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
His head, and I was like, oh my god, this
is so good. His death is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
The most I agree everyone when he's a pretty nice guy,
he's probably one of the least douchey ones I think
he did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
But now upon secondary watching, he broke into every single
place and he got pissed at his girlfriend for he
was like, wow, I guess another guy likes you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
I'm just like, okay, I guess I'll stop.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah, he's like your fan club's growing, and she's like seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Like dancing for them. Right, I'm just exausting.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Now she's a trooper, she's got a shitty brother and
a shitty boyfriend. You're right, at least in that moment,
then he's cool, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
And then Bola, I will say, and this I knew
as a kid too, But I'm now that evil brother.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Is very sexy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
What Brian van Holt such a babe.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
And not just like he looks, which like he's very sexy,
just like looking at but when he grabbed her and
is the fireman carrying her, and when he super glues.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Her lips together and leans in.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Awakenings, that awakenings and also and I know there are
some people, there are listeners who know what I'm talking
about about the kind of awakening that that can. It's
also very similar to Charlie's Angels when Crispin Glover puts
the tape over Drew Barrymore's mouth and then.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, really, oh my god, you're such a freak, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Now in and she can't and she goes, what are
you gonna do to me? And I was like, yeah,
what are you gonna do to her?

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Who do you think? Who do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Is the hottest guy for you? In this whole movie
of mostly hot guys, I guess the least hot is
the would kill guy, followed by Dalton. Although I love
i Abraham.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
I don't miss to be cruel about Vincent, but like, no,
the melted wax guy scariest.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Yeah, he's the scariest. Sorry about the least you know,
your dad like separating you. Yeah, but yeah, who's the
hottest guy for you?

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Is it? Brian van Holt, Yeah, he's I love Jared Padillaki,
but his hair purposefully and this one is on purpose
than Dean's hair and girls.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
And I know he really had like a sort of
like it's not a bowl cut, but it feels like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
And it's you hear him go when when he comes
in and he's like, the hair, I died it a
little differently, and Joel's like, no, it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
He died shorter. He was like, he needs to be shorter.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
And I'm like, oh, so you're the reason why he
can't tuck it behind his ears.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Behind the ears, especially to kind of juxtapose, juxtapose Chad's
buzz cut. Yeah, have have Wade.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Have long blowing right? It looks like flat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Yes, it's very much like old school. I don't know,
made me think of like the Beatles. It just felt
like like, I guess it's like early justin Bieber.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
That kind of but they didn't commit to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Its And it's sad because the four of them are
photographed so much. I mean, they were all over the
world promoting this movie, and Jared looks so much better
in real life in two thousand and five promoting the
movie than he does in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I know it made him look a little silly with
the striped shirt and the bowl cut.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
I do kind of like the striped shirt, I have
to say, And you know what, I like that. I'm
just so glad he's not wearing like a football jacket.
I have to say. The wardrobe overall is very questionable.
I know, Paris's sweatsuit, I can't even call it a
track suit. It is a sweet it's baggy, it's a
beautiful color, it's kind of iconic. But like, why is

(01:24:51):
she wearing that the whole movie? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Like, I know it's just that era until.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Yeah, it's just the red bra underneath and like sort
of an oversized blue hoodie coat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
It's like a robe or something like a.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Constantly over the shoulder in perfect like positioning. Right, yes,
but yeah, like for much of the movie, she's wearing
this like kind of bright blue, not baggy, but not
form fitting, like thank god, Like Kate Hudson changed the
game with FABLETICX and we have form fitting like active wear,
because I'm like Paris, you are too sexy to kind

(01:25:27):
of wear this drapy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
It was the well I was.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
I was a feminine Morse Town. I had to two
thousand five. You had to do it, and yeah, I
never liked the way it looked. I also always had
to wear Mine was pale pink, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Had I remember that because you could see your underwear
through it as you were regular.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
So it's like it makes it less possible to work
out in that, like you have to wear a song.
Oh my god. Yeah, you ladies have done in their
lives things we have done.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
But yeah, the wardrobe is a little questionable. But I'm
just glad because they could have put weight and like something.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Has a belt for a I actually kind of love
that she has like a belt a bracelet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I know she's she's major final girl and energy with
that bracelet. Right, she's like a little edgy again, a
little city, you know, like I'm going to in style.
I need to have my own like cool, quirky edgy
fashion right magazine. Yeah, oh I love it all. I
have to say, I've always thought this. I've seen this
a few times. It's it had been a long time,

(01:26:34):
at least ten years or more, but I've seen it
a handful of times. This movie is so much fun.
It truly is so it gives you everything you need
in a horror movie. Some people might say it's dumb,
it's smart. The characters are dumb. Yeah, we're not watching
like the cast of Scream. We're not watching like the
Ring characters. Like, we're kind of just watching like a group.

(01:26:58):
It's very similar similar to Wrong Turn, you know, like
just normal even Wrong Turn. I think they're a little
more likable, you know, Yeah, but like they're just friends,
like going to a football game.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Yeah, there's nothing that they do that's particularly like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
As much as Jared Padilaki, as much as I rag on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Him for being like breaking an entering like everywhere in
the town, I wasn't gonna save them by not breaking
an entering, like they're gonna die by showing up in
the town, by being in these people's vicinity, like you're
gonna die. It wasn't cool of Chad Michael Murray to
break the guy's freaking uh headlight that was out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
The evil the guy was probably gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Some shit like oh hey, I'm gonna and it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
It's so funny. I had totally forgotten this. I didn't
realize actually that House of Wax is actually kind of
like a special movie to me because I totally stole
some things from this movie for sticks, like headlight, headshot,
head light, like shining on a group.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Like totally disrupted, hand to see.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Yeah, and like hello, what's and like then he goes
away also just like Backwoods, like for the feature, like
a lot of roadkill stuff, like I completely filed away that. Like,
oh no, House of Wax was very inspiring for me,
very So that's why. Also, like I'm talking about this
movie because I love it. I think it is great. Yes,
there's some things to make fun of, but I think
it gives you everything you need. And going back to

(01:28:26):
what you're saying, how it's like, yeah, you're gonna die.
It's not a movie that's gonna surprise us like some
that it's like oh shit, she died or he died,
you know, died pedal because he he could have lived,
you know, like he was we knew.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Him, for marketed it with him in the thing. To me,
they burned his death and they burned Paris' death.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Yeah, there's only a couple more bad.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
That I was, and so prolonged that I was like,
and they did actually take a long time to get
to it, like you were saying earlier, like they do
get so I was like, I was still pleased with
his stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:29:01):
Yes, they're all wax everyone, please, somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Would this be remembered more fondly if they didn't have
the stunt casting of Paris Hilton and I love I
say that, thinking that she's very appropriate for the movie,
and thinking that she was done dirty by a lot
of us, and like totally being in favor of her.
I still I think I pause it that if she

(01:29:36):
wasn't in it. I think there was so much talk
around it being her, and so much idea around that
not making it a serious even horror movie in the
way that it was supposed to still be a fun blockbuster,
you know, like not in the way it almost took
away from it being a movie, the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Dialogue around it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
And I feel like it's it's remembered probably as being
cheesy year than it actually is. I think it actually
is like a regular I think it's better than Wrong Turn.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
I think so too. I think it's more creative, wrong
turn nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong that. Yeah. House
of Wax has again just like more interesting set pieces,
more interesting twists and turns. There's a little bit more
sock here.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Oh and I just love I love at the end
as everything's burning, our our siblings, the ones that you
know are good, you know, are breaking through the A
and wax and it's like it's just very clever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Creative sex his own, which which I kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
But I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Silly, but I do love it. At the same time,
I think that's one thing I may be able to
change where I love that that he bisects them, right,
But I think it would have been better if it
was accidental, if he's like, instead of a big swipe
down the door, you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Know, he's just hacking, he's hacking.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
And doesn't realize like, oh god, I just hacked them apart,
like you know, because because I think she slides the
babies up against the door, I don't think they were there, right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
It weren't so he wouldn't have known they were there,
right or yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Or something like a little bit of a moment of
like what have I done? Like I and that would
have been really because it's like, wait, do you wish
you actually were still connected?

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
It wouldn't hate how you look. You actually would have
been all right looking like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
That being together with him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
So yeah, I mean it's a beautiful shop. But I'm
just kind of like, I don't know, was that the
way to do the bisecting or is it yeah, some
other angle or some other way.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
I also love it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
Is it her or Chad that grabs his mask ultimately
and pulls and then and then he's like horrified, Yeah,
And I was like, how much different does it really?
I know, I was horrified to behold it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
I was horrified, Yes, no matter what that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Like, Oh, it's not like the Phantom where you're like
what could possibly be in You're like, well, this is
a horrible melted thing, because you're wearing a horrible melted thing,
right right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Yeah, But it is funny how he does it, and
I think he says like shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Yeah, he was like shit, And I was like, what
what did you think?

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
It was gonna be Christy Brinkley Because it's a beautiful face.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
It is going to be under this freaky ass wax.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Yeah, no, come on, yeah, you're gonna be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
You've seen the headlines. You've seen that this weird doctor
bisected his eyes, right. But I do love like there
are just some fun nods to other scary movies, and
I feel like maybe it was intentional. I don't know,
but I do love that when he takes that mask
off and reacts, it's a little bit of original Halloween
when Jamie Lee is able to kind of get the

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mask off, you know, and we see he's got a
bit of a But I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Like that too in Halloween because it's very I mean,
I like the moment. The moment is very horror movie.
But it was funny to me because I was like,
it was so like Halloween. The mask is so nondescript,
and then he's also he has an injury, but he's
also kind of nondescript, so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Like he's just this guy, like why is this happening?
You know? But yeah, this one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
And it is also funny because they used computer graphic
image imaging for that for his face wound.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
They didn't eat o cacticals.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Okay, and you can sort of tell.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Yeah because it looks like a made for TV movie
at that part, and every other thing looked like it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Look bad, but it just kind of looked like something
was hovering.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
It looked like, yeah, it looked like two thousand and
five computer graphics. And upon seeing how incredibly in depth,
like everything else looked so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Good because it was real. I really did that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
And I love, you know, Once he bisects the wax
kid babies, I do love that very creepy shot of
pulling through as the doors melting, as his face is
kind of melting. That's a creepy image. There's some really
good image that it's like, oh, yeah, you know. But
I also love going back to the mask. Yes, so

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Chad rips it off, and I do love that it
doesn't seem intentional at all. She pulls the knife out
of Nick's leg to use it on Vincent, and as
she is about to stab him, she's like really stomps
on the mask on the floor, And I do kind
of love that that. It's like, yeah, bitch, you're not

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gonna make it fuck right. Yeah, it's a very just
interesting mask.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
This this fun this wax. Yes, they're out there. You
gotta be careful. I am being careful.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
We haven't even really talked on about Paris' big death
scene you know, which is great. Real quick, I'll just
say it's great. I love it. Gods again, it's a
little sexual when you think about it, especially the blowjob joke.
It's like she still gets like a spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
To the head.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
But anytime you mess with someone's face and death, it's
it's also like a thing like it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
There's something very black Dahlia, very like destroy this beautiful woman.
How dare she be beautiful and enjoy sex?

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Yeah, like we forgot. Also there was some there's two
heel moments that are.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Like and also in hostile. I was like we were
I even wrote down. I was like, we were having
an Achilles tendon moment. You're so right, both of them
get Yeah, she and Jared both get a hot.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Jared gets it really bad. She gets like an awkward
a stab that's just terrible, but he gets.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
A very distinct scissors and then later on he stitches
it up. Yeah, because that's I also wrote that as
one of the scary and I this is very frightening
whenever this comes up, and like when he's because he's
has the the tonic that's making him not be able

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to move right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Paralytics A needle.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Bill hurts so much that he gets his hand. The
only thing he could do is try to push the
hand away and it's one flop.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
And again, great acting, because that really made it seem
like it really was like way down with drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Yeah, he was great the whole time. He kept his
mouth shut and was shrieking. He did such a good
job in that and that move there in the most
recent Dune, there's one too where Chohanny is like they
drain the water from people and the guy she's talking
to like Paul and it is like blah blah blah,
and the guy does one and she just really calmly

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puts his hand down.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, that level of no, no, no, no,
you're dying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I thought Paris's Chase was longer. It's actually not that long,
but it's a good It's still a good amount of time.
But I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
Cars, which makes me always feel like it's longer because
I'm like, the car is going to get it, Like,
oh no, he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
She does. Actually she goes from car to car, which
is a little weird, but get out of there. I
guess the second car she's not in, she's like hiding
behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Yeah, and then he looks up and that was the
joke of ours, was that she's hiding in a convertible.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
And she was like, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Who was the killer? I forget who was actually like
wearing a mask, someone wearing I don't even know what
they were wearing, but they were walking down the convertible
and yeah, you're just there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Like like stopping, You're like shaking. Yeah, light and I
have the dog, I have the little little.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
We were so funny. We are so funny. Oh my god,
I know. I just have to say that everybody. God,
we were so clever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
If we had started that a little later, we would
be YouTube and TikTok stars hun And it's crazy that
we didn't, because by the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
House, what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
And that's why everybody, you need to be careful going
to football games with your friends. You never know what
wrong turn you might make. Just to give our girl
Paris Hilton a little more love. Yes, she won a
Razzie for this movie, but she also won a Teen
Choice Award for this and was nominated for an MTV
Movie Award, So it's all subjective, am I right? Can

(01:38:26):
I get an amen? Thanks everybody for listening to or
watching this episode. And thank you to my longtime friend
and collaborator, My Love my Own Paris Kitchen for another
hot and steamy chat on the pod. Thank you also
to Ash, Shalina and Cadu for your great cameos. You
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