Speed & True Lies (30th anniversaries)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, Rewinders, you ready for a nineties R rated action
blockbuster double feature? Welcome to another episode of Release Date Rewind,
a podcast that celebrates movies and milestone anniversaries. I'm your host,
Mark J. Parker, a film lover and filmmaker, and thank
you for listening to my show on the straw Hut
Media Network wherever you get your pods or watching on YouTube.

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We're going back to summer nineteen ninety four in this
episode and buckling up for explosions, guns, and terrorism, which
sounds bad. I know terrorism is never ever good, but
in this case, it makes things exciting. We're celebrating the
thirtieth anniversaries of Yon Debont's Speed, which was released on

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June tenth, and James Cameron's True Lies, which was released
on July fifteenth. Strong leading men, funny leading women, and
deranged bad guys. I mean, what more could you want
in a couple of summer movies? Right now? If you
need to watch or rewatch these successful hits, Speed is
currently streaming on Stars and True Lies is on Hulu.

(01:13):
All right, hostages, you ready for a pop quiz? Hold
on tight, because it's time to Rewind. Everybody. I am

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so excited she is back, back, back yet again. Katie Bruno,
the One and Only is back on release date. Rewind Hi, Katie, Hi.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Thank you for having me back. Yes again and everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
She has come back with plenty of notes. She just
flashed them. Do you want to flash again? For anyone watching?
She does. She's a big flasher. Oh look at wow,
look at those assets.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, tied out and written on the side.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, such a good excud A film always always so Katie.
We were just talking about the heat and how summer is,
you know, fun but sometimes hard. I remember growing up
we didn't always like love summer. We liked the cooler fall.
But are you having a good summer so far?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
I am yeah, I actually I do love summer. I
finally got out to the beach. We went to wild
Wood last weekend and stayed in one of those beach motels,
the Lollipop.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I saw your stories yea.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
The start of a murderer movie.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Like I literally.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Had a key and everything, like instead of the car,
it was like Soper.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
It was really fun. We had a great time, so
that was really fun. Finally got to the beach.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I've been. I was telling you off.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Before we started recording, my parents came up and we
built a new deck in my house. I now have
a deck that doesn't look like it's going to murder
people by you falling through.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
So it was blood, sweat and tears winning this thing.
But it's built done so Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Out of the blood, sweat and tears, how what was
the most What was the biggest amount of one of
those liquids? Was there more blood? Was there more sweat?
I assume the most, most of the sweat, it.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Was so I know, And my dad is a machine.
He just kept going. But it's all got injured.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
And I always I'm joking out, like the deck hungers
like it needs blood. So if you come over, you
have to do a little blood sacrifice, Oh.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
My god before you step onto it. That's so funny
in the wood, just like drinks it up.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, all right, pop quiz.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Airport gunman with one hostage. He's using her for cover.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
He's almost to a plane.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
You're one hundred feet away.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Shoot the hostage but go for the good woond and
he can't get to the plane with her clear shot
deeply nuts, you know, Now everybody we're gonna rewind. We're
gonna go back in time thirty years ago. Wow, we
were just we were just babies basically, not really, but
you know, yeah, we were seven. Yeah, we were seven
in the summer of ninety four when these two awesome

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I mean high octane action thriller comedies for True Lies,
a little bit of comedy. And Speed for sure, I
mean you laugh here and there at the little camp
be for sure. But these amazing movie Speed and True
Lies came out in the theater. Now, Katie, did you
see either of these in the theater or were you
too young?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
I was, yeah, because you always asked this, and I
had really thinking about first time viewing.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I actually I remember my first time viewing True Lies.
It was at my house.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I love your house. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
We watched in the movie room.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
My dad's like den because I remember, like us making
comments during maybe my parents making comments during the movie
like that wouldn't happen or that, you know, we'll go
into that.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But and Speed, I want to say, I feel like
I definitely.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Saw it in my house, but I can't remember if
we saw it. If I was, I think I was.
My family I'm assuming yeah, and I think maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
We might have been because we had a house up
in the Poconos and we would rent movies all the time.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's my memory. But yeah, I'm too young
to see in the theaters.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah yeah, I thought me too. Yeah, I hear you,
because I was trying to figure it out because I'll
talk in a second about what other popular movies were
in the theater. And there was one massive popular film
that we saw, definitely, I'm sure in the theater. So
I'm like, did I see these? But no, I think
we were just a little too young, although I remember
definitely seeing Speed to Cruise Control a few years later.

(05:35):
That was definitely in the theater.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I rented that because I remember we were older
then and we rented that gem of a movie, and
I actually tried to watch it, like because I watched it.
I'm like, you know what, let's just keep going with this.
But it was renting, and I'm like, I will, I'll
pay to watch Speed.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm not paying to.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Watch No, no, don't.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeh.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's so sweet. You even rented the original Speed, Absolutely
no problem. That was like too, You're like, you're like
ninety nine, watch it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Though, because I do.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I do enjoy it like that, you know, but it's
it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's just so I mean, it's it's both a great
idea and an awful idea, you know what I mean. Yes,
Sandy Bullock and a new boyfriend because Keanu refused to
come back.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Right, Mark is smart. Never say he's a dumb man.
He saw that.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's like no, but I do love that they like
love each other like they they I remember like the
year Crash, that movie Crash won Best Picture that Sondra
Bulleck was in. I remember Keanu was her date. Like
they've always like stayed in touch. Yes, uh huh.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, it's funny and they actually well this is a
fun fact, but they actually fell in love with each
other during speed but like I believe it and like
and then just like you know, just never happened. And
then they went through separate ways but stay friends and
so they admitted it like years later.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Like actually, so maybe I was like, I want it
to happen now, said anything. I know, I'll serve to
be happy. But I think he is happy. I think
he's inn. I think they're both in nice relationships or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I don't know what her deal is. She has
heard exactly just one. Yeah, I don't know, maybe just one.
I forget, But do you want to hear something crazy?
Since we're talking about them? I looked this up when
I was rewatching the movie. I forget why I looked
it up, and I was just like, let me just
see how old they were. They were, Oh my god,
they were turning thirty in nineteen ninety four, So can

(07:34):
you believe they are about to both turn sixty? Like
I felt like I saw my life flash before my eyes.
I was like, wait, Keanu and Sondra are about to
be sixty years old?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Whoa?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
We're getting old? You know, it's crazy, And you know
it's funny because Courtney Cox just had her sixtieth birthday.
But she seems older to me than they do. Maybe
it's like from the plastic surgery, like how that actually
does sort of aide you a little bit, you know,
I mean, but she still looks amazing and she's a
total babe, and you know, yeah, anyway, Okay, we digress.

(08:06):
Let's go back Katie to June tenth, nineteen ninety four.
First up, everybody, we're talking about speed. Then we'll move
over to July ninety four with true lies for this
action double feature. So, Katie, I'm gonna just set the scene.
This is what was going on the weekend of June tenth,
ninety four. Oh my gosh, hate to bring it down,
but this was the same weekend that Nicole Simpson Brown

(08:29):
OJ's former wife was murdered.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Well, when Speed came out, they compared that like the
Bronco because he drives a Bronco and so they kind
of kissed. The aerial shots are like, oh, this is
very similar to the OJ because it just happened and
then Speed came out.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yes, wait a minute, isn't that amazing? No, I looked
it up. Isn't this so crazy? The Bronco whole thing
happened one week later. Isn't that wild? It happened on
June seventeenth. That is so eerie Because as I'm rewatching
the movie, because it's been a long time since I
have watched both of these films, but as I'm rewatching Speed,
so much of those aerial shots, I'm like, whoa, this

(09:05):
feels just like that chase.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
And then Alroanco and it's a chase, and yeah, I
was reading not to I was like, oh my god,
I didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, that's super aerie because they filmed it months and months.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh yeah, they probably filmed it, yeah, in like late
ninety three at least, you know, with all the yashs.
So that is crazy. And also just how Dennis Hopper's
character is so glued to all the all the screens,
all the live news coverage. I mean, it's crazy, how
like that was a premonition for what was about to happen. Wild,

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So she had just passed away unfortunately, grizzly terrible murder there.
But on later notes on the music side for June tenth,
ninety four, I swear by All for One was the
number one song, and I think we talked about that
when we talked about probably the mask, because everybody. The
last time Katie was on, we talked about some nineteen

(09:55):
ninety four hits starring the one and only Jim Carrey.
So if you haven't listened to those, check those out,
because Katie is like my nineteen ninety four queen.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Clearly, Yeah, right, isn't that wild?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean it was a good year for movies. I
mean we had great comedy, great action. Wow, like and also,
you know, it's funny to see like really good movies
that had big, big budgets, because I feel like now
a lot of movies that have big budgets, they're fine,
some are good, but like a lot of them are
not so good, you know what I mean. Yeah, but these,

(10:26):
you know, it was it's fun to like go back
to like this period where like, you know, studios were
spending money, but the stories were good, you know, really
really solid. So but yeah, so all for One had
I swear that was the number one song. The number
two song was Our Girl Madonna with I'll Remain. I
love that song, such so good one, such a good one.

(10:47):
So that was the number two song. Other popular movies
Everybody City Slickers Too came out the same day as Speed.
You know. Fun fact, I've actually never seen any of
the City Slickers movies. How many are there? Two or three?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Two there? Yeah, the Search for the Gold or something, right, Yeah,
I can't remember. I've actually i've seen the first one.
It's good. I've seen the second, but it's been many
it's blurry.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm sure. Maybe clips, but
they never really like called to me, you know. But
City Sleepers Too was brand new same day as speed
other popular movies, The Flintstones, The Live.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
See.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's what I mean. I'm like, well, I was seeing
The Flintstones. I was seeing of course.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, I saw that in the theaters. Oh yeah, my family,
I don't think, yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I think I went in my family as well. Yeah,
I agree, Yeah, that was super fun. Rosie O'Donnell, John Goodman,
all these good people, right, Beverly Hills Cop Three. That
which is funny because now there's a new Beverly Hills
movie on Netflix, right. I think it's just just rewatched.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
The first one. I want to rewatch the second and
third before.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I need to totally. It's been years. I don't even know
if I've seen some of those sequels. I think I
saw the original. Oh and maybe how many were there?
Is this the fifth one?

Speaker 7 (12:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
This is the fourth?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
This is the fourth? Okay, So I do remember Beverly
Hills Cop Three. I remember the last one because I
feel like there's something in like an amusement park, am
I right, like a right something?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
A long time since I've reached I just it's been
a while since I've seen that one.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
So yeah, I watched it with my parents from there here.
Oh they don't remember the plot.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I know, they get blurry, you know. But yeah,
it's fun to just see the cyclical like, Okay, well
the last movie was thirty years ago and now there's
a new one, right, So that was popular. Maverick with
Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster, like a period western.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, that's good. I like that.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, that was a fun one. And The Crow that
was also in the top ten. The Crow is a
spooky one with of course Brandon Lee, who we know
what happened.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
On that one on your show.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know, I was thinking about it. It's just it's
so many yeah, and I think instead I opted for
other because that came out in May of ninety four
and that was still in the theaters. I opted for
some other ones.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
The new one that's coming out, did it, I know.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, it came out. I think it already came out.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I'm seeing and I think it looked kind of dicey, but.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I know it looks so slick and like, I don't know,
it's tough because the original is pretty unique. I mean,
that is like a pretty I just rewatched it now.
Rare movie. Yeah, how does that hold up?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's really good. Yeah, it's very dark, it's very yeah,
like it's.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's it always creeped me out, like it's not a
scary movie, but it always made me feel like that
was just like haunted, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Pretty Yeah, I was interested in the new one to
see what they would do with it because there was
a million sequels too, so.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh yeah, I know, but like Kirsten Dunst with like
all these different people through the.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, one of them and like I think maybe
the third one or something.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
So yeah, that was like at a time exactly. That
was like at a time like mid to late nineties
were like some there were some franchises that were like
direct to video, direct to DVD, and I guess they were.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Hull oh yes, stumbling upon sequels and if I've seen
this sequels.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So watch and you know what's so funny bringing up
both of them? They were they were Dimension films, so
like while Scream and other movies were in theaters, certain franchises,
Dimension was pumping out for home video. So that was
that whole very dark, moody, cool, slick looking era of
like horror thrillers, you know all that that Dimension was doing.
But yeah, so that's what was going on everybody. Now,

(14:35):
Katie gonna throw it over to you. It's that time
where you tell us in your own words, it can
be a I mean, it's a pretty pretty simple story,
but in your own words, what is speed about? If
you had thirty seconds before the bomb explodes, what is
it in thirty seconds?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
All right?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
So basically it kind of opens with this really exciting
scene with the elevator and there's a bomb and there's
a mad there's a mad bomber, bomber that's gonna blow
it up unless he gets money. And then there's this
like hot shot rookie cop Jack Travern or Travin, and
he foils the plot essentially, and and Dennis Hopper's character

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is the is the bomber, Howard Payne. And after that
Howard escapes. They save all the lives, they save all
the people. Howard's pissed, so he is out for revenge.
So some time goes by, you know, Jack and his
partner Harry played by Jeff Daniels, get awards for their
valor and you know, all the good stuff, and that

(15:38):
just pisses Howard off. So so sometime later we don't
really found it how much time later, but sometime later
Jack is pretty much targeted. So his uh A bus
gets blown up in front of him. He knew the driver,
so and then a phone rings and it's the bomber
and he's like, you you know, I'm out to get you,
you know, and it's and it's on. So he's like,

(16:01):
there's another bomb on the bus. If it goes above
or below fifty, it's gonna blow And so he tells
them where the buses. So Jack's got to get to
the bus. He gets to the bus in.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
This exciting chase, you know, through the freeway to get
this catch up to this bus and let them know,
like don't slow down.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
He gets on the bus and then and then they
have to just with the help of the beautiful old
Sundra Bullock playing Annie, to navigate the crazy freeway in
streets of La keeping above fifty so no one blows up.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
They're crashing into.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Things, you know, sideswiping things, you know, jumping over.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ridiculous gaps in a freeway that are just randomly they're wipes.
They're a gap in that freeway, I know.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'm like, la, like, finish the roads.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Damn it, Charles, I told you to finish that freeway
last night.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
So anyway, so so they go through this craziness and
it ends with they foil the plan. They're able to
get everyone off the bus through a very smart trick
that Jack plays on Howard love.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
It, and then they eventually saved the day and they
you know, they stop the they save everyone. They do.
The bus does blow up into a plane, but that's
beside the point.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
No one gets hurt except the plane and the bus,
and they saved the day.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
And uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yay, love it. Yes, you make me want to honestly
rewatch it again. It is such a great movie, Katie.
I love that we're talking about it. I love this
movie because you know, speed, everyone loves it. I feel
like it does get a little bit of flat because
it's like, oh, yeah, that crazy movie, you know, and
maybe right, die.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Hard on the Bus dismiss.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
It, you know, right, And it's hard because when even
the stars you know, like like not that Soundra Bullock
dismissed the first one. But then when she just you know,
was like regretted doing the sequel, you know, it kind
of tarnishes the original a little bit, so it gets
a little bit of flack it. Like I said, it's
a little campy, you know, there's some really funny lines.
Dennis hop is like acting for space, like the aliens

(18:02):
can see how big his performance is. Right, But I
love it. I love it all so much. And rewatching it,
I was truly brought back to being a kid, like
watching this at home, like probably sitting on the floor
inches from the screen, just like what you know.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
It is so very very like quick movie.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's clean, like there's not a lot of downtime, which
is not at all. The idea is speed, like it's
going to be speeding and going very fast, so.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
There's not see downtime. I know.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
But it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
It just goes like there's really no no downtime, no
loll time.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Very few scenes are like kind of chill. It's just
it's go, go go. Even though I've seen this movie
probably like thirty times, I'm still like like eating popcorn,
like what you know.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
And I just saw back in December when I was texting,
so even recently, I love it.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's so good. Yeah, everybody, I have to say. Katie
messaged me, yeah, was it back into We're already.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Like so, I was stuck at my brother's house waiting
for my car to get fixed, and it came on.
He is aught, he had stars and we both just
like start watching it from the beginning, and you know,
I'm like, wait a.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Minute, this is thirty. Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
And that's why I tested doing speeds.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
You're saying, hey, yeah, you were like, f yi, speed
is going to be thirty. I'm like, I'm a one
step ahead of you. You want to come on in the summer,
and here we are. We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
All right, gentlemen, what we have here or thirteen passengers
in an express elevator. Bomb's already taken out cables, bomber
wants three million dollars, already blows the emergency brakes, anything
else that will keep this elevator from falling.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Basement. Even if you've only seen it just a couple
of times, I mean, you remember moments like you remember
when when Sondra has to get to the wheel and
you know, like I remember her squeals, you know, with
the with the kids and the baby stroller.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
The baby stroller.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
It takes you on such a ride and like you said,
it does not stop. Like that elevator sequence is epic,
Like that alone is an amazing short film that's like yeah,
and then you realize, wait, we're not even at the
bus yet, Like whoa.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You know exactly such a grid.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I wrote that great opening scene with the elevator excellent.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
They actually built that whole set. It's like five stories
high or something like they built like a like a
working elevator and everything, like oh my god, yeah, it's
really like well done that.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I mean, you can't do speed in an elevator, I guess.
But like that could have been its own spin off
movie like you know, Elevator, Fast.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Elevator, super Fast Elevator.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
But like just to be one of those elevator like
you know, I say extras, but they really, you know,
they were. They were important roles. They all like had
a lot to do. But like the one woman at
the end, he's.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Like no, I can't say so scary, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
And just the way, just the way Dennis Hopper is introduced,
you know how, right off the bat, like he's the
first character we basically see when that security guard opens
the door, Oh you can't be here. This is restricted
and then like, I don't even know what the weapon is,
but right in the guy's head, it's like a like
a some sort of oh my gosh. I'm like, we
are we are on. It is a go you know, yeah,

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he can strike it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
At any time.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Mister guests, please sign in.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Why are they messing with me? Did they think I'm
doing this for fun?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
It just starts off really strong, and it's funny like that.
That scene was actually inspired The director did cinematography for
die Hard John the Bond, and he was stuck in
an elevator while filming die Hard. They were stuck fortieth
floor and had to be rescued through the rooftop hat.
So it inspired him like that scene. He's like, okay,

(22:03):
like he kind of took inspiration from that.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Which is funny.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Anytime I'm in an elevator, I think of that because
I don't like elevators. And I was just in one
the other day because I was in an apartment building
and I was thinking, like, oh man, what if.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Tennis Hoppers on the other line, Oh my gosh, shit, Dennis.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Hopper doesn't have a thumb. And then he's like on
top of the elevator like trying to like us, you
know exactly, And.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I do think that, like this movie is one of
many that I think of an elevator when I'm in
another watter.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
But yeah, it's well good if you want another, if
you want another crazy elevator movie. I just so greg
heard about this. Oh gosh, I don't know what the
country is, but they're foreign films. They might be Swedish
or yeah, I think they're Swedish films. Oh god, I
should know, or Austrian I should know, but they're European films.
The first one is called The Wave and the second

(22:55):
one is called The Quake. It's it's a sequel, and
they came out a few years ago. Oh my gosh,
please watch them. They are amazing, amazing epic action disaster movies.
And the second one, the Quake, there is a whole
elevator shaft sequence that made me think the speed like
it makes a great double feature. I'm telling you everybody,
The Wave and The Quake. I think they're from like

(23:17):
twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen. I found them on I think
we had to rent one on like Amazon or whatever.
But then the other one is on the app hoopla
if you've ever heard of that. That is through your library.
So if you have a library like that's associated with it,
you can see it for free, but you can rent them.
But Katie, this elevator shaft scene, oh my god, my

(23:39):
palms were sweat dang much like Speed. My palms were
just like, check it out, check it out. Yeah, so crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
The game begin.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Very exciting.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Jack, some close calls, huh when someone put the city
of Los Angeles to the ultimate test.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm now going to just briefly go through our main
key players what they were, you know, doing before this,
where they were in their careers. So, yes, Katie brings
up the director. I believe it's Yon Debant, who later
went on because I forget he's European. He later went
on to direct Twister, which I've talked about on this
on the show, and the Haunting remake kind of random

(24:19):
for an action. We saw that one together and we, yeah,
remember we ruined it for everyone. We were so obnoxious.
Oh my god, I don't I don't even want to.
I don't even remember. We were just yeah. But so
he did that, and of course he did direct. He
came back with a sounder Bulk for Speed Too. But
this was his directorial debut. It is insane that this

(24:41):
was his first movie as a director, But like you said,
he had been a DP on big, famous movies, Diehard,
basic Instinct, whole bunch of stuff. And going back to Madonna,
who had the number two song, he randomly shot do
you remember Who's that girl? The Madonna movie in the
eighties where it's her and Griffin Dunn and it it's
like a really silly comedy. I loved it as a kid.

(25:02):
He uh did the cinematography for that movie randomly. Okay, Yeah,
So that's Yon Debant what he was doing up until
this time. This was written by Graham Yost, who another debut.
This was his first feature film debut. But did you
see what he had helped say it? Say it?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
So it's a whole thing.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
It's really interesting, and I actually have a question for
you on this. So Joss Whedon, Joss Whedon wrote the dialogue.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
So Graham Jost.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Wrote the original script and actually Keanu Reeves initially turned
it down because he wasn't a fan of the original script.
I did hear that, and I think Jan Debanc kind
of was like Okay, So he brought on Joss Whedon
to rewrite the script, but he's uncredited.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Uncredited, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
And I found that so interesting.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
And apparently Graham Yost is the credited writer, but Josh
did most of the dialogue or pretty much all the dialogue,
which makes sense that the dialogues really good.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, you know. And now that you say that, yeah,
it makes total sense because the dialogue snaps, especially for Annie,
you know, like she's pretty snappy, pretty quippy, even under stress.
It's it's giving a preview to how characters would be
in his other stuff. For sure, this is much better.
But Graham Yost I thought this was funny first feature script,

(26:20):
which is another, you know, surprising thing that this guy
didn't really write many other big things. But he's done
a lot of TV in his career. One of the
TV shows he was writing before this, Hey Dude on Nickelodeon.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
How random, little wow and a little strange.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
So random. I'm like, hey dude, Speed. Okay, But after Speed,
he did write a movie that I have. It's a
guilty pleasure, Hard Rain. Do you remember Hard Rain with
Christian Slater?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I like Hard Rain because I remember watching that at
a friend's house like in the basement, and like, this
movie is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Beca what it's just a really rainy day, Yeah, really awful.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Everything's going wrong. Of course the writer of Speed would
write hard rain. I'm like, okay, now that I know
that makes perfect So that's Graham Yost. Now real quick,
I'm gonna just talk about our lead actors. They are
all so amazing in this movie and they all look
so good. So yeah, great, yes, both of these movies.

(27:22):
The cast is just giving there all exactly. So we have,
of course, our leading man, Keanu Reeves. What a babe,
what a hunk? So like, oh my god. Of course
he makes perfect sense in this movie. These are the
movies he was doing just leading up to this in
the last year or two. So Little Buddha Much Ado
about Nothing, which I remember seeing in school with Denzel

(27:42):
and a whole bunch of people. I totally forgot. He
has a cameo in the movie Freaked. Do you remember Freaked.
It's a weird, wacky movie where it's it's a comedy
where like friends stumble upon a weird sick, demented uh
like Freak. It's Randy Quaid, and he told.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Me this before I tell you about this because because
we talked about Independenced with Brandy Quaid and.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You, oh, okay, freak did I bring that up?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Wait? I haven't seen it, but you talked about it before,
and I.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Well, a fun fact, Yeah, it's it's free on YouTube.
So if you're ever in the mood to watch a
really weird thirty year old, check this out. Like Balls
to the Wall, gross, goofy, dumb comedy, watch Freaked. Yeah,
Randy Quaid and and one of the friends that goes
to this place is I believe it's uh Keanu's co

(28:31):
star from Bill and Ted Alex Winter, So I think
that's why. Then Keanu makes a cameo on came on a.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Movie like that, because I'm like, by ninety three, he's
kind of had some some stars. Oh yeah, you know,
he wasn't as big as he is now, but like right, yeah, okay,
that makes it.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
He was definitely on the rise. Yeah, so Freaked And
of course Dracula one of my all time faves. I've
talked about that on the show, and I know, notoriously
it was not a great performance from him, but he
got better he definitely got better.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
He tried.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
So that's Keanu over to Sondra Bullock, who was not
yet like a big, big star, but this catapulted her
into total fame. Right before this big another big action
movie Demolition Man, that we talked about one of yep
with Wesley and Sylvester Stallone. I will never forget that
scene where she and Slie Stallone are like having like

(29:20):
thought sex.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Disgusting. I love it.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
But she did Demolition Man, she did. She had just
done this movie Fire on the Amazon, which if anyone knows,
so that was this little movie that was almost pornographic,
like she's in a hot sex scene with Craig Scheffer
if you remember him. He was this stud back in
the day. But I remember like it didn't really go
anywhere until Speed and like while you were sleeping a

(29:48):
few years later. Then it was like, you know, at
all the video stores and I remember reading back then
she was trying to like squash it. She was trying
to like get them, you know. So Fire on the Amazon.
She was in the remake of The Vanishing, which I
I need to see. Apparently it's not so good.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Did you ever see that one?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah? So that was in ninety three. She's in that.
The original was in the eighties, and I believe that
is another that's another European film. I started it, but
it's a little slow, but I know it's like apparently
one of the most intense thrillers, so I got to
really finish it. Vanishing. Yeah, and she was in Love
Potion number nine, which that you know, Yeah, that was
like a big good that would.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Be in Comedy Central and I'd like watch it all,
such a fun movie, and she's adorable in it.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, she's adorable, absolutely, So that's her. And then real quick,
Dennis Dennis Hopper, what an icon, What a perfect bad guy,
I mean, just perfectly cast. He had just done True Romance,
which a lot of people love. He was in True
Romance just about six months or so before and the
year before. I've talked about it on the show Super

(30:50):
Mario Brothers as.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
King his greatest role ever, AVI greatest role, Where's my Pizza?
Katrina and I do that line all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Last, but certainly not least, we got to talk about
someone we talked about in an episode earlier this year,
the one and Only Jeff Daniels. How what a great
year for him. Speed, great year and.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Jeff Daniels and Harry's.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yes, a great yes, You're sorry, A great year for
Jeff Daniels, a great year for Harry's and a great
year for Jeff Daniel Daniels playing Harry's multiple times exactly,
from one Harry to the next. I gotta you know
what I pretty soon I'll do a I'll do a
side by side post of two Harry's make a right
on Instagram, look out for that. But yeah, he plays
Harry in this one and then six months later Harry

(31:39):
and Dumb and Dumber, which Katie and I have talked about.
He was definitely on the rise. He had done a
rach noophobia terrifying the butcher's wife, Gettysburg. So he was
known for obviously being like a good serious actor. And
I love him. I forgot how much I love him
in this movie. He is such a good supporting character,
you know. And when he dies later.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
On, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Right, it's so bad.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
It's so original speaking how like how love like?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, people loved it in the original script, like Harry
was gonna end up being the bomber like as a.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Twist, Oh I didn't hear that.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Ed Harris play him and he'd be actually, this is
you know, hearsay, but it sounds that it could be
like one of those like well thought of it. And
then they were like, yeah, he changed it because the
they were like, I don't think the audience is going
to go for like that.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
You know twist like that.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah that's pretty dark.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
But yeah, right, and especially Jeff Daniels playing like, No,
he's so lovable.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I know, he's such a good guy in this movie.
Oh man, he works so hard.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I remember actually I remember first seeing this movie and
that scene and his face like when he realizes and
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh no, I was like, and I'm like, no, Harry, No,
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, right, I know it's like oh ship And then yeah,
it's very like you know, it makes me think of
silence of the lamps, Like how there's that moment later
on in the film towards the big climax where like
they're at the wrong house and they realize it's kind
of given me that where they're like, they're in the
right house. They found what's the name Pain? They found
Pain's house. Yeah, Howard Payne. But right place, wrong time, right,

(33:16):
But I'm so glad you bring that up because you
might have seen. I shared a video on my Instagram.
He was on a show recently, right talking about how
in one version of the script when he first got it,
he was supposed to die in the beginning. He dies
in the elevator shaft, which I could totally see. I
could and almost when I was rewatching because it had
been a while, I was like, wait, yeah, when does
he die? Does he die? Because I knew he died,

(33:37):
but I'm like, does he die saving these people?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
They string him along, right, So he was originally going
to die then and he had he had passed. He said,
oh okay, I it's not enough for me to really,
you know. But then there was a rewrite and he
talks about doing that that scene. So yeah, love him
so good in this movie. So those are our lead
actors for this Green movie. We of course, have many
other awesome actors in supporting roles like Alan Ruck from Ferris.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Bueller and character.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He's new to La. Oh my god, he's so annoying.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Character right, hilarious.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
It's so funny. And I love how right when we
meet Annie, which, by the way, I love that Annie
is running late and chasing after the bus. Can. I
tell you, Katie, how many times, living in New York
I was doing that same thing. I was like, I'm
pulling on Nanny. Almost every morning I was running to
the train, running to the bus, missing it, sweating, showing
up to work sweaty, like always late. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I love when she meets him and he's like talking
her ear off and she just goes, there's gumd live too.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I love how she says it gum.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Gum and she like sticks it in his genius.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, I love her so much. I love it. But
we have him. We have Beth Grant, who then was
in Donnie Darko Sparkle Motion, and she's the lady who dies.
She is so good and she's always so she's like
perfectly like always like stressed, you know what I mean, like.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Perfect stress face, constant stress face, like it's not job.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
She's always kind of like you know, like sticking it out,
like you know. I hate when she I mean, I
hate when she dies. I mean it's sad. It's so
twisted and again stressful. It's so stressful because you're like,
you know you shouldn't do that, you know you you
have been hearing these conversations. You know, by now you
can't be doing that. He's watching. And then when Annie's crying,

(35:34):
you know, she's already crying and stressed over over all
the people she's about to hit. And then the bus
driver what's his name? Sam? Oh my god? And then
and then this lady, I forget her name is it
might be Helen, which is funnycause Jamie. But yeah, but
when she like blows up right there on the step,

(35:55):
it's so twisted and I'm just like you.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Have she gets under the bus and it's like, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Pop, friz, hot shot. There's a bomb on the bus.
Once the bus goes fifty miles an hour, the bomb
is on. If it drops below fifty, it blows up.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
What do you do? I'm just gonna put this out
in the universe. If there is a speed three on
whatever transportation they're gonna do. Please, I would love to
be one of the passengers. I just want to I
want like two lines. I don't need much, and I
just want to be there for the whole shoot. Basically,
you know they were working for probably a month or
three months. I just want to be panicked and sweaty

(36:40):
and like, you know, like I love the Asian woman,
I love Orties, but but I love how Jack calls
him Jiki. Okay, sure, yeah, you know, but all those
all those actors are just you know, there's the old
like the old couple.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Old couple that could be, we could be by the
time they.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Let's do it, Oh my god, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Please, I'll do it like shock the whole time. I
can't act, but I can eat an extra.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, I feel like going back to the elevator real quick.
I just have to say, like we even wrote my.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Notes, I say about the elevator too, that I caught
you go first.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, okay, I'll just quickly say, speaking of like extras
in Peril, of course, we talked about the one lady
who like is too scared to get out with a
yank or out just of course as it as it drops.
And then I love how when she runs away she says,
oh my shoe.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Okay, yes, I actually wrote that down. I'm like funny
Cats during the elevator scene. So I actually watched it
with subtitles because my parents were just here.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
So I was like, I'm too lazy to figure out
how to take them all. So I watch it was
extra things with that, so that was like, oh, my shoe,
And I wonder if that's like something that she liked
lived in a sense, like they were running and she's like,
oh shit, my shoe, and they kept it in there
because it's like kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
And there's another extra scene the very end.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I know, we're skipping around, sorry guys, Yeah, after the
very and when they're in they crashed through the thing
on the subway bus and they're kissing and the extras
are and one of the extra goes, it's so romantic.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I wrote that down too. I'm like, this extra is
so happy.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
She is this extra is extra. She is very happy.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
He is a romance fan. She's like, I have no
idea what chaos just happened, but I am so happy
to see this man and woman kiss this book.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
This thing just crashed through a well, people probably died,
but like it's romantic at least like that funny.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I love it. Okay, tell me again, Harry, why did
I take this job.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Thirty more years than this? You get a tiny pension
on the teple.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Watch cool.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
So we talked about Yon Debant being the director, Quentin
Tarantino was actually offered a chance to direct, but he
he turned it down, So I think that was interesting,
as was John McTiernan, who directed Diehard.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
He was offered he turned it down. Michael Bay really.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Wanted to direct this movie, but they turned him down
because he had only done at the time.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Maybe music videos.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, yeah, so they didn't feel he had enough feature
experience feature film experience.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So so yeah, I thought that was.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Interesting because that is interesting.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Tarantino was a big name then, as was John mciernan.
But Michael Bays I love seeing like a big time director.
So he really wanted to direct this movie. And I
get it because that's off his alley, like it.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh totally actually yeah, so I totally hat that.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
So and Keanu Reeves did about ninety percent of his stunts, so.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
That is incredible because you know what I was when
I was watching, I was like, I feel like a
lot of this is Keanu, whereas when we go to
True Lies in a few minutes, those shots, you know,
those are completely different stunt actors, Like they don't even
try to hide. I'm like, okay, that is so not
Jamie Lee or Arnold right now, well that's.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
A black man for Jamie Lee, Like what.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Like, they're not even the same body I've.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Seen were like the extra for the standards.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
He's the only solution.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
We just got a ransom amount terror says he's read
the city bus.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Whereas Jack, where do you think get off?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
So Yon Debant liked Sandra Bullock.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
He cast he cast her, he you know, and the
executives at Fox were like, now we need a bigger name.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
And but he really fought for Underbolt to be in
the in the in the movie.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
So I'm glad I ended up right. I'm so glad.
She's so perfect because they, you know, wanted a bigger name.
They had offered it to like Alyssa Milano, kim basing her. Really,
halle Berry was offered. They all turned it down.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah wow, Okay, I can picture a lot of them.
But Alyssa Milano is so surprising. I mean, I know
she was like a TV star. Yeah yeah, so I
could totally see halle Berry killing that, especially at that time.
That makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yep, yeah, definitely, so very I was seeing like what
could have been you know, yes, and the other thing
I found funny and I and I actually thought before
looking at the fun facts. I actually thought of this
watching and I was like, fifteen miles an hour is
pretty fast. I'd be more reasonable to do like ten
or twenty miles an hour. The original script actually had

(41:16):
it at twenty miles an hour or it would like
to not go not go over, and I thought, I
was like, well, that would have been a really boring
movie because it would.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Have been like, yeah, all right, we gotta we gotta
keep going. In fact, you're getting hund that because you're
going so slow.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I guess, yeah, I guess I gotta turn here, and
it's just check it, check it. Little James Cameron connection
to this movie because Joe Morton plays Mac, and yes,
he's also a terminator.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Too, which I've discussed exactly.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
He's inly yes, yeah, and originally great teen Nelson was
going to play Mac, which I could totally see, but
he was busy filming Coach the show, so he wasn't
able to do it. So James Cameron actually recommended to
twenty century Fox. Hey, I just worked with Joe Morton,
He's fantastic, recommend him and so he got the role.

(42:17):
So thanks to Jimmy, Jimmy Cameron making connections.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, Jimmy cam coming in with the assist. I love that.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Oh and I also thought this was funny.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
So Howard Payne's house that is an actual house they
actually blew it up for They paid the owners five
thousand dollars to blow it up, and then they rebuilt
it for them, So they paid them and then red
can you imagine? And I was thinking, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Would I let them blow up my house for five grand? Well,
nowadays might be probably more like fifteen ye, but they
rebuilt it, so I was like, I might. I might
my dad with that. He just built this deck and
I'm like, oh, so about that. All the blood sacrifices
we made for the.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Deck, so this is really you would just have to
hand him the check. You'd have to be like, here,
just take this on a cruise.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, a cruise us too.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Oh my god. I did think it was like, that's
really funny, that's really interesting. Oh yeah, five thousand does
not seem like much. But then hopefully they rebuilt it
and they made it even better, more modern whatever. Yeah,
and hopefully.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Crowned pole situation.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
So yeah, but yeah, and then of course the famous
bus jumping scene that everyone. And I remember seeing that
for the first time, and I think it's probably my
mom or my dad going like, this just never would happen,
And actually it kind of did because they built a
ramp and they had an actual bus and it actually

(43:41):
reached one hundred and nine feet over and it got
about twenty twenty feet above the road and one and
reached and did one hundred and nine feet total to
the point it actually surpassed what they expected and landed
on a camera and broke a camera.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Oopsy daisies. Probably it probably cost the thousands of thousands
of dollars, but whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
So yeah, so because I was wondering how they did
that scene, if they did it with models.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Or yeah, the computer effects.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I was wondering too.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, it was a real bus that they built a
ramp and they show and yeah, wow, really cool. I
was like, oh, that's I love that movie. Like movie
magic when they actually.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Hooked ship and seriously, and both of these movies have
amazing movie magic. I mean they have huge budgets, but
like all these explosions and also just all the shots
and the choreography of the fighting and the sliding and
the under I mean when Keanu's under the bus. It's
just like and he's actually under the bus.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
They're seeing he's actually they have him tethered to the
under a bus for certain scenes like probably wider shots. Yeah,
but he's doing like that's him, he's probably that's one
of the stunts. He was like, I want to do
that is wild. The only digital was the freeway. There
wasn't actually a gap that was digitally taken out, So
the little bit that was what made the scene so

(44:59):
expend because back then ninety four computer you know.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
So yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Again that I'm was like, guys, even finish this fucking road,
I know.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
And you know what's so funny to make these movies
another great double feature. There's a moment where there's a
gap in the road in the bridge in both movies.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I wrote that same thing. Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, well, at least in True Lives, you know, they
break it themselves. But yeah, in Speed, I'm like, la,
what are you doing with these roads that go nowhere?
Come on now right?

Speaker 3 (45:28):
And it's like a random gap too. They're like almost like.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Uh, all right, damn it, Steve, I told you to
finish that. Charles, get over here, like you know, I
was just like yelling at people.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
And on that note, before we switch it over to
true lies, I want to just say a couple quotes
and I'm gonna throw it over to you if you
want to share any last things for speed. Okay, some
of my favorite lines from this movie. Okay, don't fuck
with Daddy?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes, so crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Pane says that with the button of course, the iconic
pop quiz what do you do?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I still use I use that line pop quiz.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Hotch Yeah, yeah, what do you do? And it's funny
because you know, like I said, it had been a
long time since I've seen this movie in full, like
years and years, and so I knew the you know,
the line what do you do? What do you do?
But I never really pieced it together or I forgot
that He's he was hearing Harry and Jack. You know,

(46:21):
do that pop quiz? What do you do? And this sick,
twisted maniac is copying there like game, oh dirty, scary
like that is just like gives me the bob quiz
you have a hair trigger aimed at your head?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (46:39):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I love when Sondra Bullock is talking to maybe Helen
Beth Grant, and I think Beth Grant is like talking
about how great Sam the bus driver is or whatever.
Oh she says like I don't want to drive. I
like someone else driving me. And Annie says, I love
my car. I miss my car. I thought that was great.
After the kids are about to cross the street, but

(47:02):
she has to keep going, of course, and they back off.
I love this line. Do you want to say.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
It isn't it?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Like?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Where are they in school?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
She goes, why are they in school? Why aren't you
in school? I love it. I love it much like
how we're talking about with with going back to O. J. Simpson,
Payne says Interactive TV Jack Wave of the Future, and
I'm like, whoa, Yeah, so accurate and like crazy love
that line. Love that line. Oh my dad, Okay, so

(47:33):
you know my dad, My dad loves movies and loved
movies like this. Like I can hear him being like whoa,
or you know he loved the line do not attempt
to grow a brain? He was like, dad line, Oh,
this line was a weird one. When Orties Gigantor says,

(47:56):
you're not very bright man, but you got some big
round Harry home. Yeah, like is that a good thing?
When Jack has that epic the finale when he when
he pushed his paint and he and I forget what Jack,
I'm starter and Jack says.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh, yeah, well I'm taller.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
It took me a second. I'm like, oh, yes, yes,
because I'm like, but you're lying. I'm like, wait, you're
lying down because he says it when he's lying, so
like I'm like, wait, you're taller, and like, oh okay.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Oh, because he doesn't have it, oh got it.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
It's like basically, basically he should have said, well, yeah,
well I still have a head.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
That would have been That would not been Joss Whedon.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
He would have never written that line in the very
beginning when they're all sitting around or they're sitting around,
they're standing around, figure out what they're going to do
with this elevator, and then the one guy is like
anything else I can stop the elevator and goes, yeah,
the basement. Yeah, a big line, like that's one of
his first lines. I was like, okay, we're kind of
introducing him as like rookie, cocky new cop, like hot

(49:11):
hot shot.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
You know that line.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
There's some great nineties sarcasm in this throughout the whole thing,
you know what I mean? Like that was like a
certain era where so many lines, so many like ways
for characters to speak to each other. Was like kind
of like yeah, like kind of dick but funny sarcasm, right, And.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
This is this is the line I actually used to
this day, here and there whenever like some I'm being
crazy or something, I'm like them the whim of a madman.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yes, I'm so glad.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Messed it up. I can't do it like that. I
already messed it up.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Again, but line, take a breath and do it all
more time.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Because they were like the news reporters like at the
whim of a madman and was like the whim of
a madman. I like that.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I'll stare a little bit better there, But yeah, I
like that line. It's just the way he delivers it.
It's just so great. So I'll say that to this day.
I'll say that here and there when you're being like
crazy or something crazy is happening totally. And then a
couple more. I love when he Jack is going under
the bus to look at the bomb for the first time,

(50:21):
and Steven's Alan Roux's characters on the phone with Harry
messages and and Jack's like, oh, he's fuck me. And
then Elan Rex's like, oh darn, darn.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
It's so good. It's so yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I love his character, that.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Moment Wildcat, when when Jack realizes it, and then that
that created the loop, which I'm like, well, they are
so smart to come so smart really understand it, Like wait,
so the news camera and I just love how Joe
wore streaming at the guy but he's patching it through
and like run it, you know.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Run it now, Like he's yelling, I'm doing it, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, but I love a cameraman fires back. He's like,
I'm doing it, you know. Like whatever he says, I'm like, whoa, yeah,
like yeah, everyone's stick called yeah you know, but yeah,
that loop is so brilliant.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
Speed get ready for Rush Hours.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Hey, listeners, don't forget to leave a rating or review
on your favorite podcast app or a thumbs up on YouTube.
If you're enjoying this episode, listen. It's not just Katie
and me who love these two movies. Here are messages
from other friends of mine and big fans, Ot Garcia,
Jeff Bageiski, and Jackie Rene is back to give some

(51:46):
love to another July nineteen ninety four movie that I
like as well, The Client.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
Here they are, Hey, Mark, I can't believe you guys
are talking about speed. It was one of my favorite
movies growing up, like at of my childhood. I fell
in love with Sandra Bullock in this movie, and Keanu
Reeves is just so hot I can't even handle it.

Speaker 8 (52:11):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Probably my favorite line of the movie is pop quiz hotshot.
I mean I said that like a thousand times as
a kid. It was crazy. And then to see Jeff
Daniels in this movie and then six months later and
Dumb and Dummer was so wild I couldn't even believe
it was him. Another movie of my childhood is True Lies. Like, seriously,

(52:33):
I loved this movie growing up. I couldn't get over
how funny Tom Arnold. He has such a small role,
but the line where he talks about his ex wife
where he's like, what kind of sick bitch takes the
ice cube trees out of the Frazer. Every time I
hear that, I just die laughing. That movie is just

(52:54):
so action packed. Both of these movies are just amazing,
so excited, can't wait to hear the episode all right,
love you bye, Hey Mark.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Yeah, True Lies. One of my favorite movies as a
kid definitely was in the movie Theater. So with my
family to this day, I still me and my old
work husband we quote the hotel room scene. It is
so funny, do it slowly. Such a good movie, such
a good scene. And of course the limost scene over

(53:25):
the water. I mean, it doesn't get much better than
better than that. And I think I loved Jamie Kurtis
and this before I had probably seen Halloween, so this
was just the beginning for me.

Speaker 8 (53:37):
Loved this movie, Hey Mark, Oh my god, The Client
is such a favorite. I saw The Client on like
TNT in the middle of the day, and it's funny
to look back and realize I watched so many of
these crimes rulers that way, because that's just what was
on when we were home during summer break. I was
way too young to deal with the heavy themes presented,

(53:57):
let alone understand the law. But I was already in
love with brad Renfro after seeing Tom and Hook. Besides,
that same summer, I watched a Body of Evidence with Madonna,
so this was relatively tame in comparison, But yeah, Susan
Sarandon is gorgeous, sympathetic and tough as lawyer Reggie Love.
Plus she has an amazing style in this movie. Mary

(54:18):
Louise Parker is such a good actress. I honestly believe
for years she was some sort of backwoods hillbilly. And
Tommy Lee Jones has that charismatic antagonism that I loved
in Double Jeopardy and The Fugitive But outside of them,
and Anthony La Padley's bronzed oiled chest in his green
alligator suit, it's all about bred. He was Mark Sway,
just a poor kid living in a trailer park before

(54:41):
Joel Schumacher plucked him out of obscurity. There was always
an emotional depth to all of his performances, this one included.
And I guess I have a type because he just
reminded me so much of James Dean, another tragic figure
who I was desperately in love with for most of
my adolescents. This movie really still holds up upon rewatching.
The stakes are high and stressful. It's just bittersweet knowing

(55:04):
we never really got to see Bradren for his career flourish.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
The way it should have.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
From James Cameron, director of Aliens and T two. One
month later, on July fifteenth, nineteen ninety four, everybody, another massive,
big budget action movie with big stars, big director, True
Lies came out in theaters across the country. So I'll
set the scene again. I'll just it's basically the same

(55:31):
time period, but I'll just shout out a few other
things that had happened between June tenth and July fifteenth.
Going back to OJ, he had by this time officially
been charged with Nicole's murder. So all that was happening,
and I thought this was wild. Amazon dot Com had
just been founded on July fifth, ninety four by Jeff Bezos.

(55:53):
Isn't that wild?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Wild? So thirty years.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Wow, thirty years of course, it wasn't even yet a thing.
I remember, you know, I was ordering stuff on Amazon,
but probably not until late nineties. It was definitely probably
close to like, yeah, four or five years later. It
was later on book. Yeah, it was a long time exactly.
And then I started doing tvds and I was like ooh,

(56:17):
and that was a little shopping addiction as a teen,
A lot of dts and then popular movies that came
out around this time. Angels in the Outfield came out
the same day as True Lies. I thought that was
fun with the old Joseph Gordon Levitt Forrest Gump just
come out. You know, it's funny. I can't remember. I
feel like I did too.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Soundtrack is such a good movie, I remember.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And a lot of it went over my head.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Yes, oh yeah, a lot of it went over my head.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah. But it was like a true epic, really good. Yeah,
like like even at that age, we could tell like, whoa,
this is like a really great story. So yeah, that
was a huge movie, perhaps Justice huge, maybe even bigger.
The Lion King had just come out, o yep, massive,
and that I know I saw in theaters because I
got chills during Circle of Life when it was like

(57:10):
Circle of Live boom when the title, I was like,
I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. So
that was the Lion thing. You probably saw that in
theaters too, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I think I saw it.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
With who do you think you saw it with?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
I don't know. I was seven, so you know I
probably saw it with like my babysitter or something, and
maybe some friends. Like definitely saw in the theaters. For sure.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yes, so that was a big one. And then other
movies that are maybe a little more under the radar,
but I love them so much and maybe you do too.
Do you remember The Shadow with Alec Baldwin.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Oh that's actually so yes, that's a good had just
come out. I haven't seen it in probably twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Oh yeah, year. Yeah. Yes. It was like a true
noir comic book movie, kind of violent, a little little
like spooky. It was like definitely kind of dark, but
super fun. That was out and a movie I love everybody,
a movie that maybe is a guilty pleasure because I
feel like some people don't like it. But do you
remember Wolf with Jack Nicholson and Michelle Feiffer. I love

(58:17):
and I loved it as a kid, even though it's
like so adult.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Loved I watched it on HBO all the time.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Uh huh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Yeah, and I just remember like certain lines and yeah,
it's a good one, which I understand, like it's you know, but.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I liked it.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
It's tough to sort of do like a grown up
modern day Werewolf movie with Jack Nicholson directed by Mike Nichols,
Like we're like getting like Oscar Oscar winning people doing
this like it's it's it was a bold move. So
some people, I know, make fun of it, but I
have always loved like Michelle Pfeiffer, Oh my gosh, just stunning,
just amazing. Yeah, so those were popular movies at this time.

(58:55):
Incomes True Lies, which of course was number one. Much
like Speed, It's opening weekends. So I know this story
is maybe not as easy to tell because this is
a little complicated. So I wrote and I'll give you
a visit. Because in the middle of the movie when
I was rewatching it, Greg actually has never seen it,
so he's like, he's like, and I was right at

(59:16):
the part where Jamie Lee Curtis is really getting involved,
you know, the wife Helen. So he's like, oh, wait,
what's going on? Is she like a spy? I'm like, okay,
let me tell you everything that's happened. And actually, attention did.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
He just did he pull Tish Bruno my mom where
he walked into the middle of the movie and go, wait,
what's happened?

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Exactly? He pulled as exactly. Yeah, he wasn't watching at all.
He just came in and he's like, what's going on.
I'm like, this is actually gonna be great, great practice
for the podcast. So this and I realized, like for
five minutes I was still talking him like so then
this happened. So anyway, long story short, Katie's gonna tell
us for anyone out there has never you know, seen

(59:52):
or heard about true lies, do your best in thirty
seconds and yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
We're here until like tomorrow. Okay. So it's centers around.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
A super spy James Bond type of character named Harry Tasker,
and he's essentially he's leading a double life. On the
one hand, he is a super spy, secret agent, government agent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
You know, doing missions and killing people and breaking necks
and all that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
And then the other hand, his other life, he is
a family man with a wife and daughter. He is
a dull computer salesman, you know, very you know, who
happens to be very muscular. I always love, sorry sidebar,
when he plays like characters that are like like in
you know, like this movie where I've.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Met computer salesman. They're not built like on all sports.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
And anywhere, like, yeah, it's so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Anyway, had to go.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
At the convention, honey, you were the picket of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
It's fantastic. It's a love to computer business.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
So suspend reality. A lot of this movie is suspend reality.
So anyway, so he currently his what he is working
on is chasing down kind of extreme terrorists who are
trying to steal nuclear weapons and you know, so they're
on that kind of mission and him and his partner
Tom Arnold are kind of working on this, and during

(01:01:17):
this time, he discovers his wife might be having an affair.
So then he kind of shifts his focus and he's like,
all right, what's happening here, kind of discovers she's having
an affair with a well, quote unquote affair.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
We'll find out it's not really that true, but it's
a use.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
He's a used car salesman, played brilliantly by Bill Paxson,
who I love r I p love him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Perfect. He's such a perfect douchebag. I love it. And
he's like I heard, he's like the nicest person ever.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
But anyway, so he finds that out, and so he
he devises a scheme to kidnap them, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
It's and I'm just sitting there like this is so illegal,
Like oh my god, that's happening, And even Tom Arnold's
like this is my breaking every all. And he's like,
you know, so anyway, so they kidnapped them both, They
bring him in, they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Interrogate, you know, he interrogates his own wife, Helen, and
find out no, she's not actually having an affairs. She
just wanted a little excitement because he's never home, blah
blah blah. So he's like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
you know, give you some adventure, you know. So he
devises this like trick, the scheme trick.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
It's such a weird. I'm like, oh my god, this
is so awful that you were giving her.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
What you want reader my husband if I found that totally.
So he basically she has this mission.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
She has to go on to pretend she's a prostitute,
to plant this listening device on this suspected arms dealer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
It's like this whole thing, and it's you know, we'll
talk about the strip teas dance. Yeah, Harry said.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
The actual is in the room, but in the dark,
so she doesn't see and the terrorists find out where
they are, which I'm like, how did they find out
where they are?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
But anyway, I'm so glad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
You want Well, I'm like yeah, wait, how they just
showed up. I'm like, did they miss it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
So okay, yeah, we may.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
But so they go in and they grab them and
it's like this, like funny because Helen's like, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Don't want him here after it's me, you want it's me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
And then Harry's like like no, like, let let me
handle It's like, not me handle it. That's fun I
like that little anyway that martised to past thirty seconds.
But so anyway, so that they get taken to like
the bad guy's layer, ye, the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Keysla going back, going back to Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, go back to Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
And anyway, so they kind of team up and and
you know, a lot of gunshots and explosions and neck
breaking and all that jazz happens.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
They foil their plot, you know, and then they save
the day.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
And and then they end up in this building and
explosions and they save the daughter, and then the bad
guy's dead, you'll fired, and then he dies and then
and then it's and then yeah, America and everything's okay exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Oh my gosh, that was a good explanation. There's a
lot going on. You did a good job with that. Yeah,
I'm glad in your explanation you included you're fired, because
I feel like that's pretty pivotal to put in there.

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
For fifteen years, Harry Tasker has been leading a double life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Mister President, one of our best men is inside transmitting
now right on time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I feel like considering James Cameron just came from directing
T two, which is a very serious movie. This is
him having more fun and I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Like, which we don't see him do too much.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
No exactly, I think this, And he'd even said like
he he wrote a lot of the script and he
wanted to try his hand at comedy a little more
because all his movies, especially like Terminators, very serious, very dark,
very you know, gritty. This one is much lighter, much
more fun. There's violence, but it's like comic book ye

(01:04:58):
kind of violence in a sense, ridiculous, which I kind
of love about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
It truly is I think, like him just having a
good time. Like he's like, this is totally James Bond
movie I always wanted to make, and here we Go, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Honestly, yeah, rewatching rewatching it, it made me think of
very mission impossible, especially the whole opening sequence in What
Is It? Switzerland? Very mission impossible, and then it's very
like kind of mister and missus Smith with the whole
married life, you know, and then oh gosh, what else
was I thinking? Then it was something else? But now
James Bond James Bond and she even says it. It

(01:05:34):
also makes me think of like a Rambo with all
the shooting. I'm married to Rambo, yes, exactly. So you know,
there's it's got some good DNA from some other kinds
of stories to make one big crazy movie. You know.
Now they're about to collide. What's your access strategy?

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I'm gonna we'll cry out of the front.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
May I see you? Invitation? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Sure, here's my invitation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah, we're good written and directed by James Cameron, who
has done so many movies. Katie, this is now what
your third Cameron movie on the podcast with me? I
think so t Too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
And Titanic Titanic Yeah, and yes, I'm already saying I
want to do Aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Okay, great, well, don't come on back because that'll be
I think that was eighty six if I remember so,
a couple more years and that'll be fortieth anniversary.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
And Jackie's like, you need to do Aliens because like
James Cameron.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Let's do it, yeah for sure. But so he, like
like Katie said right before, this was T two for
him and then before that was the abyss Yep exactly.
But this is based on a French film that you
probably saw this in your notes La Totale.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
It's called Jack Jackpot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Also, yeah, I guess, I guess the like American title
was called Jackpop from the early nineties. So James Cameron
saw this movie and I was looking that up. It's
pretty much the exact same thing a little bit shorter,
so you know, not as much crazy action because James
Cameron is like the action king. But by b there's
even Simon Bill Paxton's great character that you mentioned. So

(01:07:15):
pretty much all the main core things are from this
movie that James Cameron was inspired by. So that's where
he got the idea. Now onto our lead actors, Arnold Swarzenegger.
I can't even say that right. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Well, his
last movies were Last Action Hero T two, like we said,
Kindergarten Cop and Total Recall. So of course he was

(01:07:36):
on top of the world. He was like a true
movie star. I mean still is, but I mean very
in demand. I mean Arnold was just he's fully on
the poster for the original poster for the movie. His
face is taken over the whole thing with a gun, right,
So he is our leading man leading lady Jamie Lee Curtis,
and one of her most fun roles. And I feel

(01:07:56):
like a role that I actually feel like people don't
talk enough because I think she is so perfect in
this role. Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I do. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
And actually James Cameron, you know, envisioned her, uh in
this movie, Like he kind of wrote the role for
her because he loved so she was in Blue Steel,
which was directed by Katherine Bigelow, his ex, and so
he had seen her in that She's like and in
a fish called Wanda, which is fabulous, and she's and
she's funny, and that's just he loved her, like she's funny,

(01:08:28):
but she can be like badass because in Blue Steel,
Blue Steel is very gritty. So so he had really
wanted her.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
In this role. And actually Arnold Swarzenegger did not not envision.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
He did not envision uh Curtis. Yeah, So he did
not envision Jamie Lee Curtis in the movie. He wanted
you know somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
He just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
But then James Cameron's like he auditioned all these other
people and it just wasn't working out. And James Cameron's like,
do you trust me? And Arnold's like, yes, he's we
put Jamie in. And at the end, Arnold was like,
I should I should have trusted you. I'm glad I
trusted you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Yeah, to the point that she got top billing with
interesting it was gonna be him and then true Lies
and then Jamie Lee Curtis, and then afterwards, James Cameron's like,
you know what, this is really a couple's movie. This
is really like about like a couple's marriage.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
And he's like, so he asked Arnold, like, hey, can
I put Jamie's name after your like before you know
its top billing before the name of the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
And he said absolutely. Arnold said, without hesitation, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
That's good. Well, honestly, because she's working her ass off.
She's got such a fun change. Like for me, like,
obviously he's so memorable in this movie, but my favorite
moments and like I feel like the most iconic visuals
are they involve her, you know, like in the Black Dress,
you know, screaming her head off, you know, so like, yeah,

(01:09:53):
it's pretty impressive what they're both doing. And I mean
she also was already obviously a megastar with Halloween and
like you said, Blue steel Fish, I mean, she had
already done so many things. So and speaking of what
she had done leading up to True Lies, My Girl Too,
My Girl one and two. I talked about the first one,
but My Girl Too came out in earlier in ninety four,
so she had just done that. She had done a

(01:10:14):
movie that I really want to see. I've never seen it,
but the poster is in the video store in the
original Scream. It's called Mother's Boys. Have you ever seen
Mother's Boys?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I haven't, but I know exactly the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Yeah, it's it's Yeah, I don't know the plot, but
I know exactly the movie you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, it's a thriller. She's got blonde hair, she's like smoking,
She's she's like the bad mom that wants money or
sex or something bad and you know, scary. I don't
know Mother's Boys. She was in that, and then she
had also done Forever Young with Mel Gibson, and I
think Elijah would Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Elijah, right, love that so good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Was the Tsker's office, Kia's Helen is he?

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
How is in a sales meeting?

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
And then of course, like like we were saying, we
have some amazing supporting actors that are really really equally memorable.
Tom Arnold kills me in this movie. He is so
friggin' funny. He's in this He he had just recently
divorced Roseanne in the years prior. And that joke with
the ice cube trays, I guess did you see that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Yeah, apparently he said that. That's one of my favorite
lines that I always remember from the movie, Like what
kind of sick bitch takes the ice cubes out of
the freezer? That was something Arnold Schwarzenegger said to James
Cameron after Don Arnold had told him allegedly allegedly, don't
come after me Roseanne. But and so James Cameron love
the lines. We put it in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
It's genius. Oh my gosh. Yeah, So I guess Roseanne
did that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I guess, like allegedly Roseanne allegedly and Tom Arnold actually
went into the audition, didn't think he didn't think he
was going to get the role. He just really wanted
to meet James Cameron, but he was like, let's you know,
let's go for it. And so they him and Arnold
did scenes together and James Carmon's like, they have really
good chemistry.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
So and he is a Seen steeler.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
He's a Seen steeler. He's quick, he's witty, very funny.
Twenty Century Fox did not want him in the movie
because of all the troubles those roads. They thought it
would be bad place. Okay, yeah for the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
But looking back at is kind of surprising that he
has such a big role because you know, he didn't
he didn't really have many major roles in movies after this,
you know, So it's you know, it is interesting. It's
a little bit of a risk, so I do understand it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
But yeah, but it worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
I can't imagine it without him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Yeah, James Crammon actually backed him so much he threatened
to make the movie with a different studio. They didn't agree.
That's how much clout he had. But he had just
on those huge movies.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
So yes, it was like, oh shit, okay, fine, and
he's so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
And then last but not least, I'll just leave it
with Bill Paxton, like you were saying, what another scene, Steeler.
I love his hair. I know it's supposed to look.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
A little like she, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Looks so good on him. And he's so much fun.
And he's not in it for very long, but the
minutes he's in it, Wow, I mean honestly, like where
is his best supporting Oscar? You know, because like that
was just so much fun what he was doing. He
was such a jerk. Although I have to bring up

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a very crazy line that I need to know why
that was even in there. He says when he's raving
about Helen to Harry, you know what I'm gonna say,
And I'm not only gonna say it once because I
don't want the fence coming from me. Okay, he says
he's raving about her body, you know, tits and ass

(01:13:43):
and all this, and he says asks like a ten
year old boy. And then that's when Arnold punches him
in his sort of fantasy. Right, it's not real, But
I'm sorry what I asked like a ten year old boy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
I'm like, I have questions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, there are major questions. So just have to shout
out that very bizarre line that's probably the most bizarre
line in the whole movie. So we'll just leave it
at that. But yeah, he is great, and you know,
we have even more stars. Tia Carrere is so much
fun as Juno the bad Girl. You know, we got
lots of good people. Charlton Heston completely forgot he is

(01:14:27):
in this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
I wrote down when I saw him, like, oh, I
love him with the ipatch giving off Nick Fury, vibes
with the Avengers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
And then I, as I was doing my fun facts,
I found out they based the character off Nick Fury.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Oh my gosh, yeah, so funny. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
I wrote that down.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
And then because in the comics Nick Fury is white
and he has that similar hair, and oh wow, so
it's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Yeah, I literally wrote that note down. Then as I'm
sipping through fun facts, like, oh shit, they actually did
base the manner like certain mannerisms and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah, so oh that is such interesting trivia. So I
guess Cameron's a Marvel fan. All right, interesting, I don't wow,
how funny? Okay? Cool? Maybe it's just that you're not
in touch with your feminist side.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
What you do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I feel like you were talking about it earlier in
your description. Let's just get right to this moment, the
strip tease dance.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Holy I actually broke my pen watching it because I
was like playing with.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
I forgot how like, damn girl, get again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
She looks amazing. Now it's funny because and I'm not
I'm not, you know, speaking ill she's a queen, but
I looked up her age and she is younger in
this than I thought she was thirty five when this
came out. Okay, yeah, but her her body is banging.
It's just she just I guess. But you know, even
back in Halloween, she always kind of had like an

(01:15:57):
old face young you know what I mean, and like
a deeper volts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
So I was just sort of thrown by that. Arnold
was like ten years older. He was definitely like mid forties,
I think, or forty two, early forties. But he was
definitely older than she was. I guess that was almost
a decade if she was thirty five. But wow, her body,
Holy cow, that is sexiest. And I just love even
before it, you know, she goes on this mission like

(01:16:22):
you were saying, which it's so weird. And I again,
now as an adult, I'm like, wait a minute, this
is so manipulative. This is such a dirty trick. She's
opening up to, yeah, not her husband, but to these
you know, like this, these people that abducted her, saying, yeah,
I just really want an adventure. I need She heard
the quote she says something like the hourglass. The sand

(01:16:45):
in the hourglass is like slipping through. I'm like, girl,
you're thirty five. You're still very much alive, you know.
But she wants to do crazy, wild things before she dies.
And so then he's like, okay, so you're gonna have
to do this mission or else. And I'm like, oh,
this is so twisted right right, and then he lets
her go on this you know, this mission, like you

(01:17:07):
said as a prostitute, I love the ripping of the silly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Sleep her idea.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
I wrote that that was it, So yeah, I wrote
that I love that scene, and I remember watching it
with my family, my mom going it wouldn't rip that nicely,
which is true, thank you mother. But I do remember
saying that when we first watched this movie. But that
was her idea, yeah, she she kind of pitched it
to James Cameron was like, oh, I like the idea
of having to stress and then her just ripping, like I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I'm freeing myself, like I'm being this housewife or two
you know, for right now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
And because you know, you bring up a good point
like she she is very much like a meek, you know, housewife,
where like she wouldn't pass the Bechdel test for the
first half where she's just waiting around for Harry making
his cake, like she's very much like the wife. So
in that scene is really showing us now and even
before you know how she's punching.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Harry and when they were taking them, when she was
with Simon and does me someone and then like put
you know, so she's starting to show like oh you
get a little.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Feisy and she ain't taking it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yes, yes, that's like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
The guy like hits her in the back of the
head and then Harry get herds and punches him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Yes, I love that. It's so sweet but I know, yeah,
it's like I get it, but like, don't do that right,
But yeah, that's starting this change for her, and her
change is really fun to watch because she is sort
of like us the viewer, like we're not spies, we're
not action heroes. But how she can become this surprise
you know in the middle of it all she's able

(01:18:37):
to actually kind of like do pretty well for herself,
you know. But I just love the ripping of the sleeves.
I love the idea to slick back her hair and
it's so sexy, like I feel like that's where Beyonce
got that iconic slick back hair look. I'm like, I
feel like she watched True Eyes, right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Stole it from Jamie Lee Curtis, Yeah, I stole it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Yeah. And then she's in there doing this like you
know this mission with like you said, Harry's sitting there.
It's so funny, so brilliant, but still twisted, like, okay,
you're totally tricking your wife. This is not good like
at all, but it's funny. And he's playing the recorder,
which is genius, and I feel like very home alone

(01:19:16):
or something like yes, right, and she's just you know,
it shows not only her her sexiness but like her
real comedy chops because then she's trying to like act sex.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
My favorite one when she does this dance like she
starts that because that's something I would do, like dance sexy,
be like like the for people like see it's like
the wheels on the bus thing and they do the
disco thing. Yeah, and then it's like no, no, no,
and she's like, oh yeah, and then she gets into it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
And then she gets into it and she's writhing. And
I remember first watching that scene, because I mean, I
think I think most people remember like your first time
watching that scene. And I started getting nervous because I
was like, oh, wait, like is this gonna get Because
I don't know if I was watching with my family
or what, but I just remember like being nervous, like, oh,
is she gould to get naked and they're gonna like, like,
is this a big sex scene? Because I feel like

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that's what we're leading to because she's like humping the bedpost,
you know, like, but we don't. It doesn't, of course,
get that far.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Originally Best Trip tease in the original script, she was
going to be stripped naked, but be in the dark.
So Jamie Lee Curtis actually suggested, Hey, why don't I
have my underwear on laundry and have it in the
light and you know, and then have that different Yeah,
So she kind of rehearsed it in front of James Cameron,
which is hilarious to think about. And so they rehearsed

(01:20:39):
it and did not show Arnold Warzenegger. So that so
when he drops the recorder, that's really that's legit. He
actually dropped it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
And James Cameron loved it and kept it in the
movie because it was like a flub, but it was
a good like a good flub.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Oh iconic.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
And that's such a fun her falling down, which is hilarious.
Him startling and getting up, that's his real reaction. And
so you see him start and then he sits back down.
He's like, oh, I'm out of character because then she
keeps going. He realizes in that split second, oh we're
still acting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Okay, So he didn't know she was going to do that,
and they did it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
On purpose that way, James Cameron, Jamie mkur is apparently.
So that's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Makes me love that scene even more. I mean, it's
just so special and it's it really is so funny. Again,
it's a little twisted, but you know, and then and
then I love how you know, he kisses her and
now she's beating him up but still doesn't know that
that's her husband. You know, even she's like basically like that,

(01:21:42):
come on, yeah, And then that's the big moment where
she realizes it's him, doesn't yet know he's a spy,
but it's like, you know, right, yes, And to me
that's why I guess Simon is really where the movie
for me really starts. But like the movie kicks it

(01:22:04):
up and like the true lies I remember the most
is really the second half with starting with you know,
she's being interrogated, you know, behind the glass. Like from
that moment on, I'm like, ooh, this is like the
most memorable parts for me. The beginning is great and
so impressive. The horse we'll talk about, like, oh my god,

(01:22:25):
all that, but I don't I just didn't remember most
of that stuff I remembered when like Jamie Lee And
maybe it's because I am a horror fan and I
had watched Halloween as a kid, and I'm like, oh,
that's her. I don't know. But like then all the
like Rambo stuff in the Keys and with Tia Carreer,
like I remember all that so well, and it is
just NonStop thrills, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Agreed, Yeah, so good. It's not like he's saving the
world or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
See, this is the problem with terrorists really considered when
it comes to people's sketches.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
There's the button for the top. The horse chase scene,
the horse first. Yeah, uh and and again I remember watching.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
My family and probably my mom again being like that
horse would never keep up with the motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
And yes to a certain degree, but really watching it though,
the guy on the motorcycle has to stop a lot
and make turns, so he does the horse, and the
horse can jump over things better than so a little
bit you know, realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Sorry Tish, Yeah, but I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
Yeah, so I you know, I love that scene with
the you know, and I love the when they're running
and the saxophone guys playing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
He's like, do do do see it's just so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
So stupid, so fun. Elevator, Yes, it's wild. Oh my gosh,
the elevator. And you know, the bad guy. I don't
know the actor's name, but his characters I think as ease.
He's such a good bad guy. He looks so intense
his eyes. He's just like the right amount of camp,
you know, because it's over the top, it's goofy, but

(01:24:10):
it's still you know, serious enough where we're like on
the edge of our seats, like what's gonna happen? What
a moment. It gives me chills. It like truly puts
a smile on my face. Is Jamie Lee Curtis holding
onto his hand from the helicopter. I feel like it's iconic, right,

(01:24:35):
see that in like montages of movie history, like the
Oscars and like in the movie Theater, you know, like
her screaming this goofy scream, but she is for really
she's really dangling. There's water below her, you know. Wow.
And Arnold said they only they got that in one take.
That that shot of I guess, I don't know if

(01:24:57):
that's him holding her. I guess it is. No, maybe
it's I mean if if it's not a stunt person, well,
I mean, it couldn't be a stunt person for her.
That's the money shot of seeing her face.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
You know that she did do a lot of her
own stunts. Impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, you can tell. You know in that scene where
she's standing in the window of the of the car,
you know, the what do they call that like sort
of like the skylight or whatever. You can tell. And
even a lot of the wide shots it's her. I
could because I was looking, because you know, we were
saying some of the wide shots are like that is
definitely not them at all. Yeah, but you could see
it was her, like so at least she's doing that,

(01:25:35):
you know. But that shot of like the car going off,
you know, much like speed how we were saying the
bus going over the but like the car and like
the I think that is definitely a stunt woman in
that wide shot of like coming out of the car.
Incredible like movie magic.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Yeah, And I remember, did you have you gone to
the keys? You've driven down the bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
I just finally went to uh to Key West in February.
We went this year, just a couple of months ago.
But no, we didn't. We flew directly to Key West,
so we didn't. We didn't have a rental car. We
haven't driven, but I do want to do that someday
because it looks cool.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
So I have.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
And I remember drove the bridge and my dad goes
that other because the bridge is still there at the
old bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
It's like that's when they filmed True Lies.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
So so it was cool. And they did do an
eighty foot model of the bridge to do some of
the scenes and then for other So the bridge already
had pieces missing from it, the old bridge, so what
they did was they used that so they would actually
build in the pieces like built like a bridge to

(01:26:45):
blow it up that they kind of build in the
missing chunks just to blow it up again because it
was already you know, I was probably made out of
like plaster, you know, nothing fancy, but yeah, magic. So
they did that, which I thought was really cool. And
then the other stuff they did was a was an
eighty foot model of the bridge. So they did some
and then the other one. I thought this was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
So they had when they did a lot of scenes
with the bridge, they had to shut so there's the
old bridge and the new bridge, so the new seven
mile bridge.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
They would have to shut the new seven mile bridge
down for several minutes at a time to film certain
things like the planes landing. Oh yeah, so they would
have to stop path cars and stuff. So they had
people go out to the people in the cars and
give them like sodas and bumper stickers that said I
was stopped on the seven mile bridge by Omega Sector,
which is the Oh yeah, yeah, I want that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
That's fun. Yeah, what a good idea to give them
some swag, you know, to make some something.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
But so yeah, so they did film it on the
bridge and then other parts was the model, yes, I thought,
but I remember like driving on the bridge and being like, oh, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
Where they filmed true lies. Okay, that's really.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Cool and there's missing from the bridge and it's still there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
But yeah, wow, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
A cool drive.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Incredible. Yeah, I want to do it sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
I like to go back again. Actually maybe next year. Yes, cool, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Oh that's so fun. Well if you go, oh my god,
you need to recreate the Jamie Lee Curtis.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Oh that's safe. We didn't mention other part of the cast, Eliza.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
I know, I was just thinking and how funny, you know,
she doesn't have a ton to do as the moody daughter.
But I thought of you because, of course, not only
we were gonna we were about to talk, but I
thought of you because when I was rewatching, she's given
me a little bit of like a female John Connor
from T two because she's like, you know me, right,
and she gets on her boyfriend's motorcycle and she's stealing

(01:28:42):
dad's like money or whatever. I just thought, So I thought, Okay,
James Cameron, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Seeing very feet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
I think that was like a little nod right the scene.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Where Arnold was wearing the sunglasses at night, the camera glasses,
so terminator. I'm like that, Oh yeah, I didn't think
about the John Connor.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Yeah, she just gave me. I thought of it. I
had never thought of that before. But I just was
getting some of it, you know. But yeah, little Eliza
Gushku so bad ass going to Joss Whedon and Buffy
that little connection. But I love that, you know, like
we said, just when you think the movie's done, they
got his daughter, which is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Wait, how I know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
It is kind of crazy, And even Tom Arnold says like,
I don't know they got her somehow, Like I feel
like it's sort of like a joke, even to James
Cameron that it's like whatever, they found her.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
You know, they got her.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
Well, I mean he did as these did have Harry's
wallet with the right picture and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Yeah, he pulls the picture out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
And I was like, well, why would he have his
wallet when he's on mission? But he wasn't on a mission.
He was there messing with Helen and on him because
he wasn't there for an official mission. You know, even
you're right, but I was like, that kind of checks.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Out that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
That's that. That's kind of what I figured how they
found Dana.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Yeah, so she's on the jet with dad hanging on
and oh my god, what finale?

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
So crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Yeah, it's such a great like and that the jets
are awesome and just.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Oh my gosh, yeah question and they're breaking into the
building and the guy cleaning has no idea until you
know it's too late. Yeah, wild stuff. It's just like
so good.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
You're fired.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Another moment I want to just shout out that we
haven't talked about yet. Actually two quick moments again going
back to like their lair in the Keys, I love
the truth serum bit. That's really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
And also that's a funny line too, like have you
ever killed anyone? Yeah, but they were all bad.

Speaker 6 (01:30:50):
But they were all bad.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
And before that, she goes, are we gonna die? And
he goes yep, Like like, Arnold isn't always the best actor,
and in this movie at some time there were some
lines where I'm like, yeah, but then some lines he
can do really really well, and that was that was
a good moment. But that's fun. But then I love
and I had forgotten. It's just so funny and it's
the kind of moment where, man, I wish I saw
this in a theater with a packed crowd, because I

(01:31:14):
bet the crowd was laughing. When ship's going down in
the lair and you know, it's after the truth serum
bit and they're shooting each other and everything, and he
gave Helen the gun. What a fun moment, Like, what
a great moment.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
It's so comical, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
It's slow motion. All the bullets are luckily not hitting
them but hitting all the bad guys, and and then
he looks at her and she's like like, oh, so
much fun, so fun, and.

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
I did put like the bad guys have like are
like the worst shots ever. They went to like Stormtrooper
Academy with like they.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Are especially earlier on, especially earlier on with Tom Arnold
behind the pole and he's feeling everything, he feels his crotch.
He's like, oh my god, that's another brilliant I mean,
the movie is really funny.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
It's so funny, and I think it meant to be,
like the bad guys are supposed to be awful shots,
Like it's kind of I wonder if James Cameron is
kind of making fun of because Star Wars. The Stormtroopers
are notoriously bad at aiming and shooting, so almost wonder.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
If he's kind of making fun of that. I don't know,
I didn't read anything about it. I'm just putting things stops,
like these guys went to like Stormtrooper Academy with how
bad shots they are, They're not getting anything like except
for like poles and chairs and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
And like Tom Arnold is not a skinny guy, no offense,
but you know, not the thinnest. So that was so funny.
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:32:42):
Yeah, I was looking at because I always wondered, you know,
why they didn't do like a sequel, because they did
a sec speed and I read and I actually read that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
A sequel was in the works. I don't know if
you saw this, where the script was.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
Written and the idea was going to reunite the main
cast with James Cameron as you know, the director, and
it was going to be released in two thousand and two,
but it was it was scrapped for a couple of reasons.
One was the head script issues and the other was
it was right after nine to eleven, so said like

(01:33:23):
age Terrorism's not It wasn't funny then, but it's really
not funny now, like and apparently and I did know this,
but I forgot because it was very short lived. There
was a series, a True Lies series.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
It just like a year helped up. Did you check
it out at all? I wanted to actually try it,
but I know it got canceled, so it must have.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Been the season I heard it was that good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
That would have been interesting to break up, you know,
the the time between Titanic and Avatar with True Lies
to Truer Lies. Because yeah, it does end. I love
the ending. I love how their dos because earlier they
call her Doris no when they say we'll give you
a code game Boris and Natasha is so funny. I

(01:34:12):
love the light on her eyes, you know, when work here,
and I love that for her. Like like again, I'm
drawn to her character because it's like she is kind
of the everyman, you know, just doing the normal job,
but she's now doing what she wanted and what she's
good at, and I love it. It's so cute. And

(01:34:34):
then they're dancing at it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
That's the fun thing. Like I think like that she's
like accidentally like exactly, so yeah, and I love that
the movie starts and ends with the tango too, which
apparently it's funny. Arnold Schwarzenegger did a lot of his
stunts actually, you know, and but the thing he was
scared most of was the dancing. So he's he rehearsed

(01:34:57):
for like six months because he was like, because he's
not a dance her, so he would really worked hard
at them, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
I mean, I'm sure it was amongst other doing other things,
but yeah, he was practicing because he wanted it to
look like you wanted to be like James Bond and
be like, yeah, like he could actually kind of dance.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
So because it's that kind of role where like you
you know, you would believe, you know that he would
know everything. He knows, all these languages, he knows, all
these dances, he knows you know, like that's what he's
trained to do, right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
James Bond. Yeah, so that's that's why. Yeah. So I
love Yeah, I like that it ends with the beginning
and ends with the tango, just with different ladies. Yes,
is he dancing at the end with the lady he's
supposed to always.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Be dancing, Yes, exactly. Uh huh. Yeah. Give her the
respect she deserves, right, don't make her weight up.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
I don't believe.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
Requist heist.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
I missed Tia Carrer.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
She was so I wondered because I love I loved
her in like Wayne's worl Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Yeah, she was like really having a moment in the nineties,
sunningly beautiful and she's so good. She's funny but also badass,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Yeah, so I don't know what really I should have
looked more into that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
It's just a lot of research.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
But yeah, oh I know, yeah, I know this was
a big, big, h you know, workload for for getting prepared.
But yeah, I hope it'd be nice to see her
in something because I want to be surprised if she
still looks banging and she's good. She's got such good,
sassy energy. I'd love to see her in something.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
You know. We never can't sleep.

Speaker 6 (01:36:26):
I just asked him to tell me about his day.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Jamie did win a Golden Globe for her performance.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
That's right, Oh, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Yeah that her and Sondra Bullock I think tied for
a Saturn Award for Best Female.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Yeah, the Saturn Awards, just like the sci Fi you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Know, both are so they really are so perfectly passed
for these movies. So it's just funny to know that,
like they weren't the first choice, you know, for some people. So,
but but they are perfect for it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Yeah, yeah, agree, great, great, great cast for both.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
And this was back when Jamie Lee was addicted to opiates.
Do you remember that she was? Oh yeah, she twenty
five earlier this year she celebrated twenty five years sober.
So she was addicted for all throughout the nineties. She
basically said, like she made like Halloween h two, oh
because she wanted money for drugs. Yeah, and like some

(01:37:27):
of the yeah, yeah, she was really hooked on opioids,
maybe even in the eighties, but I know, definitely throughout
the nineties. So this like during this movie, like, yeah,
she was hooked. So it's sad, but luckily she's totally
sober now. She's been sober since I guess ninety nine
is when she officially stopped doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Yeah yeah, oh wow, good for her. I love her.
I love her.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
I know it's great that she's persevered. And of course
now she's an Oscar winner and still doing amazing things
and more famous than ever, you know, so yeah, she
is pretty inspiring. For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
It's always fascinated when you hear that, like because you
see such great performances and you're like, wow, they were
on drugs that whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Yeah, like she sunction let alone be. So that's how
talented you like musicians, I'm like, how do you? I
wouldn't even walk straight on it, but it's you're like
acting how the people are playing instruments and performing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
I'm like, yeah, the stuff they do. I know, Jamie, Hey, Jamie,
and yay everyone for these great movies.

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
What can I say?

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
I've been told by friends that you are a great
guest with all the research you do.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
Oh yeah, though luckily, luckily, it's always fun talking to everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
It's always so good talking to you about.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Movies, different things that they like to talk. I like
the fun fact other people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Yeah, you know, so everyone appreciates you with your your
research skills. Good for you could work with Harry and
Tom Arnold and you could be the researcher, right Charlton
Heston randomly, Yeah, exactly, And that's the end of the episode. Yay,

(01:39:07):
we beat the bad guys terrorists. Take note, if you
have Arnold or Keanu as your enemies, it's not gonna
end well for you. Thank you everybody for listening to
or watching this episode of Release Date Rewind, and thank
you my longtime friend Katie Bruno for returning and rewinding
with me. Thanks also to Ot, Jeff and Jackie for

(01:39:29):
your cameos. Follow me on Instagram at release Date Rewind
to see clips of this conversation and more content about
these great movies. Thank you also straw Hut Media Network,
Kyle Mottsinger, Greg Clements, and Portland Media Center. And next time, everybody,
we're going on another eighties adventure on this podcast to

(01:39:49):
Fantasia with the never ending stoy h Really, my voice
isn't warmed up. I mean, I know that wasn't my best,
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