The Sixth Sense (25th anniversary)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Straw Hut Media.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Release Date Rewind,
a podcast that celebrates milestone movie anniversaries. It's now September,
so it's officially spooky season, and boy do we have
an iconic spooky story to talk about today. I'm your host,
Mark J. Parker, a film lover and filmmaker, So thank

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you for listening to my show on the straw Hut
Media Network wherever you get your podcasts, or watching on YouTube.
This huge memorable movie we're discussing in this episode was
released in theaters on August sixth, nineteen ninety nine, so
it just turned twenty five years old. And that movie
is the Sixth Sense, written and directed by a mostly

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unknown director at the time named m Night Shyamalan, released
by Disney at a time of year where they didn't
really know what to do with it, but with the
help of great marketing and great word of mouth buzz,
it won on to make over six hundred million worldwide. Now,
if you need to watch or rewatch this classic ghost story,
it's currently streaming on Max in the US if you

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have a subscription, or you can rent it, borrow it,
or find it pretty easily online. All right, creepy kids,
unaware psychologists, and scary spirits, grab a blanket and a flashlink,
because it's time to rewind. Whisper. I see dead people,

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and I'll decide if it's too loud of a whisper. Oh,
that's great. This is a first for release date. Rewind.
I have not one, not two, but three guests, and
we'll tell you a little bit about how the numbers
were changing up until a few hours ago. So this
is a real shymal on Twist. I am with a
not just one ghost, but a few. But I have

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three great guests on this episode. I'm so excited. I
love them. I've been on their show. I love their videos.
I was saying, Zach, you weren't here when I was
saying it, but I love their hocus Pocus costumes. I
feel like when I think of these three, I think
of Winifred, Sarah and Mary. Everybody, please welcome my friends

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from How I Met Your Monster, a great horror podcast.
We have Danny, we have Casey, and we have Zach.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Hi friends, Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you, welcome having us.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, I'm so happy to have you. So I've met
Danny and Zach before Casey, this is a first How
are you feeling? Are you loving it? Is everything working
for you? I feel like it's great.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, very excited?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, okay, good, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I love this movie. That was another reason that I
you know, and I missed Deep Blucy, which I also
love Deep Lucy. While I was watching Deep Bluecy, I
was like, man, I can't wait to talk about this movie,
and then I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know that's happening in Yeah. I'm so glad you're here.
I'm so glad to have the guys here as well.
Deep Blue Cy was a few weeks ago. I was
on your great show raving about that great shark movie
and so listeners, if you haven't heard it yet, go
check out How I Met Tremonster Deep Blue Cy. It's
so much fun and I meant to tell you guys,
I recently watched have you all seen talking about another

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shark movie Under Paris on Netflix? Has anyone checked it
out yet?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Talked about maybe covering that?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And it's fun. It is, oh, I mean, I mean,
Deep Blue Cy is far better. I mean, what a movie.
And it's still is so scary. As you guys were
posting like pictures from the movie. I still get scared.
I'm like, h and I've talked about it with you,
but I'm like, I don't like these pictures of these sharks.
But under paris so fun, so dumb shot, very Hallmark

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Lifetime movie, Like, oh yeah, so it's funny to have
like a shark movie. But everything is so brightly lit
and like commercial looking. And and the actress from the
artist Berenice by Bejo Bao. I don't know her exactly
how to pronounce her name, she's in it, but check
it out. It's super fun. It's also a great fun
watch during the Olympics in Paris, and it's basically kind

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of meta where they're like preparing for the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, someone pitched this to me very differently. I thought
you were saying it's like Allmark movie style. I thought
this was like a very serious, like shark movie.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
No, I mean it's definitely scary. I mean shark movies
freak me out. As we talked about, like, I mean,
some of these shots, I'm like, like, within the first
five minutes, I screamed and my dog started barking, and
I was like, you know, that's meet with shark movies.
I'm very scared of sharks. Shark spiders. Those are the
big ones.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Killer, Danny.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
You don't watch the serious homewark movies.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Just just the unserious ones.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, tell anyone out there who's listening about How I
Met Your Monster, how you guys started it. I want
to hear all about your show for a minute. So
tell us.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, okay, do you want me to take this, Danny
Zackie boy.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, you're not gonna ask me.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Casey, you want to take it? No, You're good, Okay,
I didn't think so. Yeah, So, How I Met Your Monster?
We started in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I think it's been times.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's been three years. Me and Danny had
talked about doing a podcast a couple of times, just
kind of just like randomly.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, let me backtrack a minute.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Me and Casey knew each other since we were like
eighteen nineteen years old. Me and Danny met in film school,
and then we all kind of converged.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
We're on two separate coasts and one in the middle.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Danny, You're in San Francisco, Casey's in Pittsburgh, and I'm
in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
So we do this.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
All remotely, but we all got together and talk about
movie monsters and their introductions, because I've told this story
a few times on our show, but it all kind
of came together one time. I was watching Texas Chain
some Ascar the Next Generation, my favorite Texas.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Chain some Ascar movie, Thank You very Much.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
The first one I saw in that franchise. So he
holds a special place for me as.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Well, totally, totally.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
And by that time we are on we're on the
fourth movie. We've seen leather Face like three times before,
you know, and he just kind of like when he
shows up in that movie, he just slides onto screen
real quiet, and it's just like strange because it's not
like a big spectacle like in the first one or
even the second one. He's just kind of there and
you're like, oh, yeah, there's the other face, okay. And

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so then we were thinking, like how many different ways
do filmmakers like introduce these monsters again and again and again,
Like how many times did you have to you know,
do you see Jason rise from the Dead and all
this stuff, and how does he do it each movie?
And so we just kind of kind of borrowed the
name how I Met Your Monster from How I Met

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your Mother, which I really know nothing about except it
sounds cool with the word monster in it.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
And yeah, we were on.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Episode one and twelve will be out in a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, good for you. That's a lot
of work.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You guys aren't weekly, you're like every other week, you say.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yeah, we started.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
We were going weekly until like episode like fifty or
something like that, and then we started we started spreading
it out a little bit, so we are we're bi weekly. Yeah,
we're every other Monday.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, And we break the show up in kind of
like little mini series, like seasons, so to speak. We
have a triple feature, so each one of us will
we'll pick a theme for the triple feature, and then
each one of us will pick a movie that fits
into that theme and those will be our next movies. So,
for example, I almost spoiled the one we're doing right now.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
But when well, yeah, people already know what's coming, Danny people.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, I guess you can tell, yeah, this episode. So
by the time this episode comes out, we will be
knee deep in our Dog Days of Summer triple feature,
which is basically just Werewolf movies.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
So yeah, h that's great.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Wow, we're doing We just we just recorded our Silver
Bullet episode.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
And one of the past. We're going to follow it up.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
With American Werewolf in London and the original wolf Man.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, bringing it home?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Nice yogi, Yeah back in what was that like nineteen
forty forty one? Cool?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, if you want to that's gonna be our first
universal monster that we're covering on the show.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh nice?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Is that our oldest movie?

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah right, wo crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh that's fun. Well, if you ever want to show
some love to another werewolf movie that some people hate,
I love and I was like obsessed as a kid,
kind of random Wolf with Jack Nicholson and Michelle Fighters.
I love Wolf. I'm all about it. James Spader like
such a random, like high broadcast. Mike Nichols.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
So, Mike Nichols like, what is that? It's so funny?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I love it so much. So that's great, that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I watched Wolf when I was a kid, and like,
it's not like your typical werewolf movie. And so when
you're like a kid and you're wanting to see like
a werewolf movie, Wolf is kind of like really until
the end, but I would just I just rewatched it,
like I don't know, like six months ago, and it's
so good.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
But silver Bull, silver Bull is such a such a
regular role Werewolf movie.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I have a bone to pick with you because you
said you don't like your horror movies to be like
no horror.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
No, just listen, just listen, just listen.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
We're bringing the fight across.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I didn't like Silver Bullet.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Okay, no, we have.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
We're talking about the sixth sense today.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Did I just spoil that? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, no, no, there's a there's the whole intro that
they heard. Don't you worry.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
But Casey, you said on our last episode that you
do not like horror movies that are like not horror.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
How dare we compare sense? I know what you're gonna
say already. I know what you're gonna say, because this
is a drama but it's not. Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
But you like this, but you love the sixth sense.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, but Casey, we all know that the sixth sense
actually silver bullet of ghost movies.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
That's right, the.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Sixth sense of spooky. Silver Bullet was not.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, so that's ultimately your problem. Yeah, it's like, if
you're gonna blend horror with another genre. It should still
be spooky, it should still.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Right because the moments, the moments in Silver Bullet where
there was no werewolf, it was just.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Goony.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, well here's the thing, here's your nach and I
are so deeply nostalgic at the late eighties and the
early nineties that it's.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
What I saw Bullet. I would have seen Silver Bullet.
It might have been different.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But yeah, well, I'm glad you guys, you know, are
celebrating werewolves. Love that. Now, let's celebrate some ghosts. Yes
we might. We might not see dead people right now,
but I see lots of podcasters all in one space
the same thing, right, dead podcasters, you know, I don't

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you plug in your mic. You'd go about your business
just like your will, right, And you have no idea
we might be dead right now.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
We'd have more listeners. I think if we saw what
we wanted.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
To, if this is supposed to be heaven or some
after life, yeah, you'd hope.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
So right, you have a secret, but you don't want
to tell me.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, let's go back in time. Let's rewind to August sixth,
nineteen ninety nine. So how old was everyone? If you
feel like sharing, I was. I think I was about
to be in sixth or seventh grade ish. How about
you guys around the same squad.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Wow, I was thirteen. That would have been eighth grade.
Eighth grade, yeah, I must spend twelve.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I would be at the tail end of being ten.
So I was in my tenth year.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Wow, what a time. So here, So before we get
into like the movie movie, I'm going to set the scene,
I'm going to talk about what was going on in
pop culture. Shout out your thoughts. This is what was
going on everybody in early August, late July nineteen ninety nine,
as we're leading up to the sixth Sense coming out
in theaters. So on the news side, Woodstock ninety nine

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had just happened a couple of weeks prior, and for
anyone who knows or might have seen, you know, yeah,
it didn't end so well. It was the huge crowd
of New York ended early due to violence and fires
and all that stuff. So but what'stuck ninety nine was
a big deal. I remember, like I was glued to
MTV at this time, so like, you know, big, big deal,
big mess. So that was going on on the music side,

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sticking with MTV. Oh my gosh, this brings me back,
like it's wild how my brain can remember twenty five
years ago so well, like I was living. The number
one song was Geanine a Bottle by Christina.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Oh yeah, Like summer was so significant and so memorable,
not just because I know, like ninety nine is known
for like being one of the most memorable years in movies,
but music. I mean, yeah, the intro to Christina, that
was a big deal. I just wanted to be on
the beach all the time and like do her dance like.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And I'll never forget my dad walking in on me
dancing from there to that song and kind of doing
a mix of like her moves and my own and
I'm lip syncing, and I had like a cassette tape
of the single. Oh my god, I was obsessed.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
So that's yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Was pretty It was pretty awkward. I was like, oh
my god, Dad, shut the door. I'm not done yet.
So Guinina Bottle number one song, followed by number two
song Bills Bill's Bills by Destiny's Oh My Favorites. Okay, right, iconic,
here comes Beyonce, like Wow, pretty amazing that she is
still I mean, same with Christina, but Beyonce is still

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such a course twenty five years later.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean I was, I'm a way bigger destiny Child
Destiny's Child fan than I am.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yep, I hear you, I hear you. Yeah. So they
were the number two song. Other popular songs Wild Wild West,
of course, was Will Smith and Cisco. That movie had
come out just a couple of weeks prior, you know,
not the greatest movie, but great song.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, this is so random, but the other night, I
h I randomly watched Star Wars episode one, the Phantom Menace,
and then I got a little tipsy as I was
watching it, and I was like getting really nostalgic. So
then afterwards I went onto YouTube and watched like the
first thirty minutes of the nineteen ninety nine MTV Movie

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Awards and Will Smith is just riding into the theater
on a horse, just dances too.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
My horse's name out of your fucking mouth?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh no, yeah, no, language is great. Curs away no
that And I'm so glad you watched that, Danny, because like,
I mean, were you guys watching MTV at this time.
I know case you didn't have cable, he said, didn't
like like those award shows were like everything at this time.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
You know, I remember watching MTV, like on New Year's
Eve for like Y two K and No Doubt sayg
a cover of R. E. M's End of the World
The World Yeah yeah, and it was just like crazy
and everyone was like waiting for like the ship to
shut down, and then nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I was terrified.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's why we got so much good content because everyone.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Crank it out, get it out, it all ends. Yeah, totally, yeah,
will be right back. So uh while wa West and
if you had my love j Lo's I believe her
first song, her first single that was they Are. Those
songs were all in the top five, so I mean,

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whoa firing on all cylinders. Music was thriving at this time.
And now going over to the TV side again, sticking
with MTV, do you guys remember the show Undressed? Anyone
ever watched Undressed back in the day.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Vaguely it sounds familiar.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
It was like, it's so funny how it came out
the same week as American pop. I think, like raunchy,
sex positive like teens, you know, but Undressed was a
late night soap opera on MTV half an hour show.
I think it was a shot in Canada. Some familiar
faces popping up Pedro Pascal's in like a season, but
uh yeah. It was like risque but not risque at all.

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But you know, as a twelve year old, I was like,
oh my god, I dressed? Are my parents? And like, okay,
there was like a shirtless guy, maybe a girl on
a bra, but like that was it talking. It was
a lot of talk about sex, like oh my god,
like did you put the condom on? And it was like,
you know, oh yeah. I was like, oh I heard something,

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you know, put on Buffy something safe. So so yeah,
I Undressed had just started a couple weeks prior, and
this is such a blast in the past. In a
couple of weeks actually, like like two weeks after six
Cents came out Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? With
reach REI just feel that that was about the premiere, so.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Like, wow, okay, right, I mean yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
That was on the TV side, Okay, other popular movies
at this time. So this came out the same week
as Thomas Crown, not The Crow, although that came out
a couple. Oh no, the Crow.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Four? Yeah, Why did I think it was ninety nine?
Why did I think that it came You.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Know what, maybe one of those bad sequels came out
in ninety nine, because you know how they had like
those directed via video. No, maybe it wasn't so bad.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Maybe like that you're you're an Edward Firlong fan. Maybe
it was the one.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, I think you're some dunst is in one of them.
I feel like, oh, you hate her, really hates.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
A strong word. I liked her an interview with the Vampire.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Oh she's great there. Yeah, oh wow, Okay, so we
have an anti fan on the show. Okay, got it? Okay,
just processing. That's a right, we're going to talk about her. Maybe,
you know what, let's just talk about it right now.
Because Dick had just come out and I loved it, well,
you know, multiple reasons. But the movie Dick, you know,

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with her and Michelle Williams, that had just come out,
not a not a big success, but super fun.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
If you haven't seen such a fun movie, that movie,
I remember I would. I don't remember where it was.
It must have been playing on TV a lot, because
I watch it a lot for some reason. Yeah, And
I would like I talked to my mom into always
making oatmeal raisin cookies because I wanted to eat the
cookies while I was watching the movie and pretend that

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was high even though I know, like what that meant.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I love that. Yeah, I feel like we were talking, Danny.
Were you and I talking about that the other day?
How will you like need it's time for a rewatch?
I think we were talking.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yes, yeah, we were talking about Operation Dick.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yes, yes, so yeah, so Dick had just come out.
This came out the same week as that the Thomas
Crown affair, if you remember that with Pierce Bros. Very
like Swave mystery Men, the.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Iron We when mystery Men came out, my cousins and
I made our own like our own fake superheroes, like
if we were part of the mystery Ment team, like
who would we be? And I was the bottle capper,
so I would take bottle caps and have you ever
done that before? You take a bottle cap between your

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middle finger and your thumb and you flick it and
so you can like kind of fire it at something.
So that was my you know all the what I've
done it with pennies. M yeah, so same idea. And
the whole thing with mystery Man is like they have
the dumbest superpowers. So my whole thing was so we
made a short film and in the short, I shoot

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the thing with my finger and then we would cut
to a close up of me holding the bottle cap
and the camera following it, so it looks like it
was like traveling a long distance.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
And then someone, Oh, my god, is it did you
put online anywhere? Can we see it?

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Oh? I, god only knows? Or that movie?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh my god, digitize it?

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Oh? Speaking up?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I forgot to say, you guys are also filmmakers like me.
You right. Danny and Zach made cotton Mouth, a great
short that I saw a while ago with the one
and only Heather langing Camp. Sorry, I forgot to like
that in your long list. Casey, did you work on that?
Were you the scary person like with the fingers?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yeah, a cameo? There was a job?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Were you? Did you work on that for real? Do
Casey or no? Just the no.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I I was I was going to, but I was
in school and working and it just in a really
not a great place.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So okay, Well, cotton Mouth too, starring you.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Starring me. Yeah, yeah, I do special anymore?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
So, oh nice? Do you really Casey? What kind of
like I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean yes, but I don't. I don't for work,
but I have a degree, and like it's great, I'm capable.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Oh my god, Well let's work together. Great, okay, good
to know. Yeah, any other films that you guys have made.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Zach and Danny, I only made cotton Mill.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I made a short. I made a short before
cotton Mouth called Guessing Game. It's kind of like sat tire.
I guess you would call it.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Is it also horror or is it?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah? It's like a thriller.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I guess it's Twilight Lony.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's short. It's like eight minutes. I mean
it is a short.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah, short. Yeah, you can find it on a YouTube Guessing.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
And then in twenty twenty we shot cotton Mouth and
right before yeah, on Friday the thirteenth, March thirteenth. It
was a Friday. Yeah, and that's that's right when like
shit was shutting down.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Because we shot it in Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Because Heather langan Camp, who was our star, she is
from Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Oh, so it was it was.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Kind of nice for her to like come back and like,
you know, she spent some time here and then she
shot our home while she was here, and but there
was talks about like is she still going to make
it because things were like closing and shutting down, and
and she.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Was such a trooper though. Do you remember she she
emailed us and she was like, my husband's trying to
talk me out of this. She's like, but I really
want to do this and I don't care.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
So I love that. I love her. Is she as
cool as she seems? I'm sure she cool of the nicest.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, And we're not just saying that because it's like,
we met this iconic actor and we were just so excited,
genuinely one of the nicest people I've ever met. She
sent us this long email after the shoot that night,
I mean it was that morning because it was the Yeah,
she's just telling us about how much she loved the
experience and how great everyone was, and she's talking about

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this wonderful trip through Oklahoma and it was just great.
And then we we we've kept up with her kind
of on and off, loosely, very casually, and she's just, yeah,
she's fantastic. Yeah, oh love that they don't meet your heroes,
but we were very met that.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, I know it's tough sometimes meeting I met Wes
long ago when I worked at the Wendy Williams show,
which is so still so crazy, that he came to
Wendy Williams to promote my Soul to take and I
quit because that show this was like the end of
no the beginning of season two. It was in the
early days, and that show, as you can imagine, was
so frigging stressful and messy and it was just such

(24:32):
a shit show that I was like, I'm not doing
this anymore. And I didn't have like a job lined up,
and I quit. And I was I don't know how
old I was, twenty three, twenty four, but I said,
I will. Instead of a two week notice, I'm giving
you a three week notice because I want to be
here when Wes Craven comes. But I was I was
way too nervous to have him sign my Scream and
My nightmar on ELM Street box set DVDs.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I brought them.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I got approval from my bosses, the talent bookers, and
he was super cool. He just I think he realized
when he was there. He was like, why am I here?
Like this is so strange. The walls are bright pink,
like what am I doing? And I could just feel,
you know, it wasn't appropriate for me to be like
mister Craven. So but no, I love yeah, oh my god,

(25:18):
you have something signed by him?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well I'm just gonna pretend that that's on my Maybe
you can take a picture of his autograph and I'll
just like, you know, yeah, okay, prints mountain. Yeah, I
love that.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
He basically got the autograph, so.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
This, oh my god. And he was so tall, like
I remember in the elevator. I was like looking up
like wow, amazing anyway, but really no, oh yeah so tall, yeah,
big guy. But yeah, I love the nightmare connection and
that's amazing. So everyone goes to go watch cotton Mouths.
I meant to say that earlier, all right, So those
were like some of the popular movies going on at
this time. Of course, Deep Blue Sea, going back to

(25:57):
our beloved Sharks that had just come out a couple
weeks prior. And I do feel like you guys are all,
of course horror people like me, and I feel like
we need to just briefly touch on The Blair Witch Project,
this little movie you know that came out just a
couple weeks before this. That was huge. Of course six
Cents kind of took over for the horror you know

(26:18):
element at the theater. But do you guys, like remember
your first watch of The Blair Witch Project. Did you
see in the theater? Do you remember it all, like
all the hype at this time?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, I don't think I saw it right away, but
I know that the first time I saw it, I
was not impressed because I didn't understand I love it.
Now when I watched it, like as an adult, I
get it, you know, a lot, a lot more so.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, wow, okay, how about you, Zach.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
I remember the hype.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I do, but I didn't see it until I was like,
I don't know, twenty five, twenty six, Like, I just
didn't watch it until I was older, and I watched it,
and I'll be honest, I was like, what, I love it.
I was like, that's it, that's what this movie. Like
everyone was raving about this movie. But I totally understand

(27:08):
at the time when it came out, like the way
people were reacting to it and how it was like
marketed and everything, and I was like, I totally get that.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Like people thought it was real.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Like there was like a documentary that's now on I
think in Amazon Prime that aired on the Sci Fi
Channel with their families, and I was glued to the screen.
I was like, Okay, this is crazy, like they hired
to play like I'm Heather's brother and I really missed her.
I mean, like it was. It's so wrong actually what
they did.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, I just if.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I would have seen it at the time, it would
have been a lot better experience. But maybe I'll give
it another another watch.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
You have to really kind of suspend disbelief. You have
to like use your imagination and watch it as if
it's real. In its ten times scarier.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, I mean they don't. That's the kind of movie
that I like though, because they don't show you anything
that you're supposed to be afraid of, and that's scarier
for me.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
So, casey, don't watch Blair Witch the newest one?

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Oh yeah, is.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
There a new one? You know? It's funny because I
actually loved the second one, Book of Shadows, which is
often but yeah, I love it. I love that one.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I remember I kind of liked the blair Witch one
from what was that, Danny like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Yeah,
I remember kind of liking it. But yeah, it's a blur.
I feel like they do show more and it's less cerebral.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Right, Yeah, there's parts of it that are really you
could tell that they're trying to just kind of play
with the formula from the first one, but trying to like,
how can we enhance it without going too far? And
even when they do kind of like quote unquote show
too much or show more than the original, I thought
they did a pretty good job with how they handled it.
It could have gone like way overboard.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Freak.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, let's move on to the real topic everyone, Okay,
the sixth sense. So I want to hear from each
of you. When did you first see this movie? Did
you see it in the theater? Was the ending spoiled? Like?
What are your memories from back then of seeing it
talking about it with friends? Danny, you want to go first?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah, I saw it in theaters. I was very excited,
you know, big horror fan even at the time, and
had no idea what I was in for. And it
was one of those few experiences in a movie theater
where the collective audience like everyone just like the and

(29:40):
I think what people also forget? Well, I guess that's
not true. I guess maybe I wasn't paying enough attention
to like the promotional stuff, because I guess I knew
it was about ghosts. But even at the midpoint when
Cole kind of reveals like I see dead people, I
must have not put that together there when I first

(30:01):
saw it, because that's kind of a reveal the way
they treat it, and I forgot that. After watching it
this time, I was like, oh, yeah, they don't like
set it up necessarily as like a ghost movie.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
No, But I think a big part of that is,
like so much happens between the opening scene where he
shot and killed in that scene that like you kind
of forget that that happened anyway, you know what I mean.
At least that's what I think, because I don't when
I saw it the first time, I didn't remember that
as being I didn't know that either until the end when.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
And that's the thing. This movie is so good at direction,
because you know they always say, like if if you
want to do a good twist, The last thing you
want to do is lie to your audience, because then
it's just a cheat. Then you're just like, well you
didn't really, it's not a twist, it's just a lie.
And then if you watch this. That's why I Every
time I watched this with someone and it's their first time,

(30:53):
I get so anxious. I'm like, oh no, they're gonna
say they know what it is. There's no way they
didn't notice this, Like, there's no way. And then it's
always a surprise, which is such a testament to m
Night Shamlann as a writer, because again, he doesn't cheat,
but he just does it chest Like you said, Casey,
like you have enough distraction in misdirection in between that

(31:13):
you're like, oh oh shit, oh oh god.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Did you ever talk to me mom about how things
are killer things?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Because she doesn't look at me like everybody else, and
I don't want her to.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I don't want any know no what. So then Danny,
it sounds like it sounds like you, Yeah, you went
in blind. You didn't hear any like anything about the ending.
You were you were shocked just like everyone else. Cool,
that's great. How about you, Casey, When did you first
see this? Do you remember.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't remember. I know that it wasn't in theaters,
but it was it wasn't long enough afterwards to have
it spoiled for me, so like I didn't know the end,
but I do know that it was like it's in
like the top three, like jaw dropping, like what the
fuck is happening things that? You know what I mean? Yeah,

(32:06):
so I do remember being very shocked.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's great. Oh my gosh, how about you, Zach. Do
you remember when you first saw it? No?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I has still not seen the movie.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's like, what is this one called?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
He was dead the whole time?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Like I was gonna say, like, I hope no one
says the end during this conversation spoilers. No, I don't remember.
I know it wasn't in the theater, but I'm trying
to think, like when I saw it, I don't think
I would have been it would have been spoiled, But
I also don't remember being like super shocked, and so

(32:44):
it probably was spoiled. Now, the m night Shyamalan movie
that I first remember seeing that, like Blew Me Away,
I saw it in the theater at midnight. Was the Village?

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Oh yeah, that's so funny that because that's the one
night Shyamalan movie that I saw that literally was spoiled
for me right before.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Oh no, no, that's a bummer because that twist is
pretty that's a big twist.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I mean, yeah, I know, like and people like shit
on that movie all the time and I don't know
why because I love it amazing and I saw it,
like I know, this is about the Sixth Sense, but
my story is about the village.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We're going to talk about all his movies at the end.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
So yeah, so yeah, I saw it back when like
Thursday night previews were like Thursday night previews and a
midnight showing like open on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, it was like Thursday three pm. Yeah, so it
came out on Thursdays. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, so this was a midnight showing like Thursday night
Friday mornings, and it was just I remember taking like
a nap before so that I could be like awake
because whatever. But yeah, it was so good that one
blew me away. But the Sixth Sense, I don't as
much as I mean, I love the movie. It's great,
but I don't remember that first time. I don't remember

(33:59):
that first experience.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, yeah, I was like, Danny, I went to see
it in the theater with my family packed house, but
I didn't go opening weekend because I remember Opening weekend,
I was hanging out with some friends and one of
them did sort of slip, and I remember he said something.
I can't remember exactly what he said, but I remember
I was like, wait, what did you mean to tell

(34:22):
me that? And you know, like, especially when you're that age,
you know, you let something slip and then you go
ooh and it's like, okay, well now obvious. Yeah, Like
I didn't know that that was something important until you
made it obvious. Yeah, So I forget what he said,
but he said something, and so I didn't know that
the ending was the ending, but once it did happen,

(34:43):
so I was still shocked. But then I was like,
that's what Blair said. So Blair labors my old sort
of neighbor, you sort of like spoiled it. But it
was totally fine. I was still totally you know, but
it was that kind of thing you know, when like
certain movies where it's like you don't fully know how
it ends, but because that one person says something, once
it happens, you're like Okay, that's what they meant, all right,

(35:05):
And so you're a little distracted then by you know,
what's going on from you know, but.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
And like you're watching a movie the whole time and
you're being like, Okay, you know something's gonna happen, so
like you're not really fully into it because you're always
thinking about that one thing.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Exactly the whole time. I'm like, is this what he
was saying? Oh, it's the color of his jacket. Oh no,
it's not that, you know. The whole time, I'm like
looking first, you know.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
So this movie specifically is even if someone does did
spoil it for you, like the context of the story
throws you off because you're like, but people are like
interacting with him, what do you mean right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can spoil it. By the way, can we spoil
it right now?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Like just oh of course, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Spoilers like how can he be dead? The whole time
like he's sitting down and like having a meeting with
cold people.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah, but then you're like he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
That that's the mind blowing thing because yeah, case you
bring up the wedding ring and that's when he realizes
and we all realize, you know, and you know, still
to this day. To me at least, it's not like
the biggest like like it took me a second. It's
not until the flashbacks and you hear Cole's voice in
his head like they see what they want to see,
like what we're you know, like then that it's like

(36:22):
it takes a little bit more than just the wedding ring,
you know, sliding on the floor, which is awesome and
it's like ooh, spooky in the head, but it's it's
once you see that montage of like he's sitting there
with Tony Kolett, He's sitting there with his wife, like
they're not talking to him, but they're not looking at it.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
First time Cole sees Malcolm, he runs away. He's afraid
of him because from his perspective, he sees a ghost
who's just following him, who's just like staring at him,
like through the trees, like coming after me. It's like
it's all right there, yeah, you know, not until Malcolm
kind of strikes up conversation. And I think Cole is
so emotionally intelligent that he's able to kind of be

(36:58):
like okay, you're not gonna hurt me at the very least,
like I know you're a ghost. But he even says,
like at the end of their first conversation, he's like,
I'm gonna see you again, aren't I And he's like, yeah,
he's not okay, and he's like, I have no control
over it.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
This is like sure, yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I just love that. It's also so smart. I feel
like the first real conversation they have, like at length,
is when Malcolm Bruce Willis is sitting, you know, in
his living room with mom. Mom says like, you're gonna,
you know, get some triangle pancakes for dinner, and she's like,
I'll be ready in an hour, and she leaves and
then they communicate, but for a while Cole is not speaking.

(37:37):
It's the whole like game of like take a step
towards me, like, oh, you don't feel like talking, well,
if I'm right, take a step towards me. If I'm wrong,
take a step back, and so much of that he's
not actually so Mom wouldn't hear him talking that much?
You know? It's so smart, so.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Smart, and what I love about this and maybe I'm
going a little too far, but no, just to that
point of like communication. Cole doesn't end up opening up
to Malcolm until Malcolm opens up to him. So if
you watch, like, the big like reveal doesn't happen until
Malcolm is finally able to say, like, you know, I'm
having trouble with my wife, which kind of ties back

(38:16):
into Malcolm's whole like journey of he wasn't able to
help these people and it was because he wasn't able
to truly level with them, and he finally gets that
obviously gets a chance with Cole, and you see it
in real time. You see Cole's response to it, and
like they're both like on this healing journey. Oh it's
so beautiful this movie so much.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I want to know how long it was? How long
did Malcolm's wife not say a word to him? And
he thinks that everything was.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know, we don't know how much time has passed
since the opening scene that the shot the gunshot, and
then like, yeah, I feel like it.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Doesn't it says like the next fall, but that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Tell us what it could have been anything. It could
be a year, and.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
They're able to get around that because they're like ghosts
only see what they want to see. So for him,
how did he show up that? Yeah, but like how
did he show up back like out on the bench
with Cole's information, Like his brain kind of just took
in what it needed to take it, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, And it's so smart. And we'll talk about
the opening scene because we have to talk about Donnie
Wahlberg because whoa, whoa. But after that, once we fade black,
the next fall and and we meet Malcolm again, he
seems fine. Time has passed, he's healed, right, he's dead,
but he's sitting on the bench and I thought it

(39:41):
was so brilliant. I never really caught this until this
latest rewatch. He's going through his notes and it was
so smart. The first page of notes is about Vincent
Donnie Wahlberg, so it's as miss passed and he's reflecting
on him, and then the next page is called so
like it totally feels so real that like, yeah, he's
back to work. He's looking at old notes, looking at

(40:02):
new notes. I thought that was really.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
It's literally just the classic like Ghosts is still Ghosts
are still here because they have unfinished business. It's like
the whole Yeah, but it's done in such a sophisticated
way totally and yeah again like because the whole point
of the movie, the whole foundation of it and the
function of it, is the twist that you don't get
it that in reality if you watch it, when you

(40:24):
watch it again, you know it. It is just this
very straightforward, traditional like ghost story playing into every like
ghost stereotype.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
I see dead people walking around like regular people. I
don't see anything. Are you sure they're there? Sometimes?

Speaker 5 (40:43):
Side like you follow you down real fast? You ever
feel the frickly.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So this is m Night Shyamalan's third film. Some people
think it's his first, but he had already written and
directed a couple other films wide away. They were not horror.
So it's fun me how this really, you know, launched
his thriller horror, a little bit of sci fi in there,
you know, throughout his career, but.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
He gets there's a little bit of you see, sorry
I'm jumping No tell me, no, tell me, tell me,
tell me. In his first film, Praying with Anger.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, I haven't seen this.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
From what I remember, there were like little touches of
It's been a couple of years, been a few years
since I saw it, but there's either it feels there's
a sixth sense element to it, with like him seeing
something or something not being what you think it is.
There's kind of a twist and then he kind of
does it again.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
In Wide Awake is Wide Awake Rose O'Donnell. Really, there's
there's a little bit of like a twist in that
as well.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Now I don't want to say now, I don't want
to say a thing, but there is a there's there's
a through line that builds or kind of organically in
a narrative way, at least to sixth sense. It makes
sense that he got to sixth sense even though there's
no horror. If you go back and watch those, if
you want to be like a real like m Night completist,

(42:05):
go and I think you'll see what I mean. I
will say nothing more cool.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Okay, that's great.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Have you guys seen those movies, these early movies? Me? Neither?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, okay, no, all right, Danny's really leading the way
and the Shamalan party.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Oh yeah, I'm not a We'll talk about the rest
of his movies at the end. Like you said, Okay,
I'm not a I'm not an m Night person.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, Casey starts and ends it with the sixth sense.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's it basically. Yeah, okay, I do like the village.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I do like the I'm glad. I'm glad we had
some village fans here because yeah. Otherwise, okay, well, i'll
tell you more about Trap in a little bit. Everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I already looked it up.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Oh I don't want to hear spoilers.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah no, no, no, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
But I just I don't care to even try anymore.
So I just I just I just anyway.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh okay, all right, all right, but I wanted to
also shout out. So yes, he had why do Way Kid,
Praying with Anger and don't forget Everybody. He did rewrites
on She's All That, so it was things. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Apparently he did already written Start Little.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I think he did, but that came out at the
end of ninety nine. So apparently he wrote Stuart Little
and She's All That for Miramax to like get out
of a deal with them or something.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I read.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
It's in this great book that I've talked about before
that we talked about on your show too, nineteen ninety
nine best movie year ever. They talk about the sixth sense.
But yeah, so people forget that some of the weirdest
dialogue and she's all that and night, Shyamalan wrote, So
he did that, I guess to stop working with the Weinsteins,
finish up that deal, and start working with Disney because
this is.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Surprisingly Yeah, Kathleen Kennedy, he was apparently ugly though, was.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Ugly because exactly she had glasses exactly, I know, so dumb. Meanwhile,
she was absolutely stunning.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
You know, I'm gonna have to see a makeover.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
What, oh my god, it's Danny. No, that's not, oh
my god, but oh you're back. But yeah, people don't
know that this is a Disney movie and and that
Disney was very worried about it, like and they talk

(44:25):
more about it in this book. But that's why they
like sort of put it out in early August. They
like kind of were losing faith in it. This newer director,
Bruce Willis at a time, you know, post Fifth Element
where he was doing he just did Armageddon. You know,
he was in his action phase. But it was sort
of like, why did he do this? Like this is
sort of weird.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Didn't he owe money? Yeah? I read that too, Yeah,
he owed money. They wanted to take money from him,
and he agreed to do three movies for a really
really low price, but he got to pick what they were.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yes, and this was one of the ones. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
They were like no, no, they didn't want him to
do it, but.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah it was too risky, right, And that's how the
movie even got its financing was because of Bruce Willis.
So there's like a crazy little set of circumstances.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Wow, yeah, pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah, I think you're so
right easy. I think he owed like ten million or
something for because he was starting to do a movie
or some production company, I don't know, there's some like
drama there where he was working with people and then
it wasn't working out and he was on the line
for a bunch of money. So yeah, he had to
do some stuff. Yeah, but I mean, you know, pretty
great that he chose this obviously, right. So that's Bruce Willis.

(45:37):
I'll just talk about our two other leads, man, Tony
friggin Collette. What what a star? You know, she was
still newer. She's only like twenty five in this movie,
which is funny in a good way. Oh yeah, she's
only I think she was twenty six when it came out. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I just watched an interview with her and she was
talking about how, at the time she was up for
a couple roles. It was the Sixth Sense with with
you know, a then unknown m Night Shyamalan or a
Martin Scorsese movie, which I'm thinking must have been like
Bringing Out the Dead or something, right.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Oh yeah, probably right around there, yeahs New Yorks.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
In this interview, yeah, but she said she got a
call I think it was from her agent and they
were like, you got their role, and she started screaming
and she's like, oh my god, like this is great,
and they're like, no, no, no, no, it's not for the
Scarsese movie. And she was like, oh fuck, Like she
was so mad. But then she's like obviously, like she

(46:36):
was saying that, like laughing, She's like, obviously, in hindsight,
turns out that the guy is a genius. The movie
is a masterpiece and it changed my entire life.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
So she uh, I think she was supposed to be
blonde and she chose. She told them that she needed
to have red hair or bibernet or whatever, and then
she thrifted the clothing for her character too.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Oh wow, it's great. I love that green top she
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I know the green velvet. Oh yes, I love it.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I'm just gonna say right here, I know this is
like the Bruce Willis movie. It's like, I think she's
the m VP.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Oh yeah, yes, agreed, performance too, even more than Hereditary.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, Hereditary is pretty people.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and just say yeah,
I'm gonna stick to my guns. I haven't seen Hereditary
in a couple of years. I genuinely am obsessed with
her performance in this movie.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, it's phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
I mean, the way she can play it so tough
but then be so she's just like the purest like mom.
You know, you know, no matter how tough she she
is with Cole, Like at the end of the day,
she would literally just like throw herself in front.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Of my face.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yea, look at my face.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
I was making I was making chicken cutlets while I
was watching this movie. I'd like Europe. I probably had
like seven pockets of just like moments of crying, literally
like crying. I was like, oh it was always her a.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Few times too, and uh, you know, I think the
only other like horror movie that I remember that I've
cried of in was a quiet place.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Oh yeah, that's a great one.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, I don't think other than that, I really cried.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
During Horror, right, not usually. Yeah, it's she is very
impressive in this movie, and that Oscar nom was well deserved.
I forget who won instead of her, but it might
have been like.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was it.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you're probably right. That must have been
the year like Julia Roberts one maybe or no, maybe
that was a.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Year after well Aaron Brockovic came out in two thou.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Two thousand a year yeah, oh yeah, that was the
year Hillary swank one and because Boys Cry came out.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I know anything.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
About Oh you've never seen you should watch Boys?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
No, No, I mean award shows. I love Boys Don't Cry.
I know that. No.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Ultimately, yeah, not a big deal, but you know, just uh,
always just interesting to like the movies that actually made
an impact on everyone and then the ones that won.
It's like, oh, okay, sure, uh.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
You're like the accidental there, yeah, someone got her, did
the lady? She broke her neck?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Oh my god? But you can see, yes, where she
standing next to my.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Window, I'm seeing Angelina Jolie or.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Oh yeah, girl interrupted, So oh did she beat Tony Kollett?
Oh yeah, okay because catica address in line? Wow, all right, composition.
I know Tony is so special. And then another Oscar
nom little Haley Joel Osmond, who is so good? Oh
my god, he is so wonderful in this movie, you know,

(50:15):
and like he only gets more and more Like Tony
I knew even as a kid, I'm like, whoa, this
is a great actress. But Haley, as I get older,
it's he only gets better and better in this movie
for me, Like I noticed more little details he brings
and the tears in his eyes and just the right
like volume of his whispers.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
I'm like, yes, Haley, he's very he hits nuances that
don't I don't understand how a kid could even like
think to go there.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah. And I teach a lot of acting classes, especially
for kids, and like that kid was not taught. He
just he just had this sixth sense about it about
performing that like he just knew. He just like has
the empathy and the depth to like cause you can't.
I mean, it's amazing. Yeah. So he had done a

(51:01):
lot of TV. This was you know, obviously a breakout
role for him, although he did have a little role
in Forrest Gump and the movie Bogus with Whoopi Goldberg.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
If you guys remember I don't think I've ever seen it.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, like a fun, stupid fantasy comedy.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Speaking of Bogus, I just had to throw this in
here today. I showed my eight year old son Monster Squad.
Oh why didn't and and Frankenstein Bogus.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I love that movie so much, although I really hate that,
uh the F word, isn't it. I really don't like that.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
My god, I was watching it and I was like,
you know, and they say the H word.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
I mean, I don't know, like I mean homo. I
mean I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Like how sorry, I'm sorry, but they like said that.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
And then they say and I'm.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Like, yeah, aggressive, ID definitely remember that.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Remember that.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Wow, he said Wolfman's got nuts and he's He's like,
that's what people call their privates And I said, I said, yeah,
that is, but he said nards.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
But he's talking about the same thing.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
I do. Remember you quiet, very smart, compassionate, unusually compassionate.
You forgot cursed.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
The beginning with Donnie Wahlberg definitely made me cry quite
a bit. He's obviously yeah, very good. And I think
he lost a crazy amount of weight and everything too,
like he lost like voice as much weight as he
was supposed to for the role. And it was his
idea also to be in his underwear. Well, he wanted

(52:53):
to be he wanted to be naked.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
But they were like, now, now, can you tell me
about the nipple ring? Was that real?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
That?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Even when I was kid, I was like, whoa? Okay, whoa?
And that even as adult, I'm like, the nipple ring
is a choice, which is great, But I'm just like,
was that real? Was that a? Was that?

Speaker 6 (53:14):
You know?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I don't know. Yeah, so I love that part. I
also just I don't know why, but I really loved
the part when you see I'm sorry, what is his
wife's name? Welcome's wife?

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
What is uh? Real life is like a Livy, what
is it? I want to say it's Jane, But that's
so well.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
I thought it started with a J two.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I thought it started with it is okay, Well, why
don't we take a guess? All right? I have it
up here, Casey, you want to guess? Okay, AND's good? Zach.
You want to take a guess?

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Well now and sounds right, but I do think it
starts with the I'm gonna go to jam.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Okay, Danny, you want to take a guest?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Oh, Jane, Jane, Jane, Jane.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Okay, So we have a Jane Jane, though we have
we have a Jane, we have a jan and we
have an Anne. And the winner is none of you.
But the closest winner is Acy with Anna.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
So oh it's Anna.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Okay, you mean Jana, It said Jana.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Okay, okay, So anyway, her name is Anna okay. So, uh,
when it shows her for the first time after he's dead,
but we don't know that, and uh, she's laying No,
it's when she's just laying in bed. And it was
one of those things that in retrospect, like, you know,

(54:51):
because she's cold, so she covers up. She like grabs
the blankets and stuff she's around because she's cold. It's silly,
but I like that part.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, and it's interesting how the movie starts with her
being cold in the in the cellar, so she's just yeah,
she's so they got to fix that thermostat. But yeah,
that's so interesting because I always forget about that and
rewatching him like wait, no, Donnie Wahlberg isn't a ghost,
So like who's the ghost? It's like kind of already

(55:21):
setting is.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
It just like is it just to like throw you
off for like when you know that like there's coldness
around there, like, oh that is always cold.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
It's probably her.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
And maybe it's also m night just like leaning into
like ooh, this is a spooky movie. Oh my god,
I'm in the wine cellar and I'm really you know,
like maybe it's just like the one like kind of
little trophy nod to like the genre.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Maybe a ghost or are they just rich people who
have a wine cellar exactly and they know how to
regulate the climate correctly.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
A particular particularly spooky part for me is at the
party when he gets trapped in the.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Guys when I after we saw this movie for the
first time in theaters, my older brother and my uncle
who was kind of like a young kid with us.
Essentially we were staying in we were in Cape cod
and there was where we had seen the movie. That's irrelevant.
I don't know why in my brain that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
But then.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
I'm from Connecticut. But in this in this scenario, I'm
in Massachusetts. No, but there was there just happened to
be a crawl space like one of those have you
guys have seen those, like the little like square doors,
like they're really tiny. We had one growing up, so
Sixth Sense was like a very big deal at the time.
We had just seen it was fresh in our minds,

(56:46):
and I was always like the young like little brother
who was always picked on and like put into situations
to make me scared. And they both were like, hey,
do you want to play a game called Locked in
the or locked in the Dungeon? And I was like no,
because I know where this is going to, Like, well
you get to be locked in the dungeon and they
put me in the crawl space and closed the door

(57:09):
on me, and my brother kept saying, he's like the.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Sixth Sense ghost is in there.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I was like, well, you're like, you're like which one?

Speaker 5 (57:20):
You're like, Chris Willis, where are you?

Speaker 4 (57:22):
I was like, wait, wait, let's let's let's walk it back.
Let's walk it back.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
John McClain helped me.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I also really really loved like Gore even growing up.
I still love Gore right, but I loved it when
I was a kid, and so I know when I
was a kid, my favorite part of this movie was
when the kid says, let me show you where my
dad keeps his guns, and then he turns around the
hole in the back of his head. Even when I
was ten years old.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Oh yeah, that's dark, and I remember being in the
theater and hearing and myself included the gasp like the
line is freaky, and then the head and then putting
together the in the head. Yeah it's just oh bleak.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Yeah, it's that well, not funny. But that scene did
for like gun prevention for me personally, what Requiem for
a Dream did for drugs, like drugs.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
For me.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
I'm like, yeah, like I'm good. Power of film, Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
How about you. I'll move over to Zach. Any favorite moments,
like what was that?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Like that one when I think of the sixth Sense
and I think of, like, that's not necessarily the one
scene I go to with the kid with the bullet
hole in the back of his head or where his
head was, But when I think about like the different
ghosts that are in the movie, he's always the first
one that I think about. And it's like because that
moment was just so crazy, but yeah, like the like

(58:53):
the the birthday party scene, like you know, like when
you're a kid, you're scared for because he's in there
and like he's freaking out and you're watching it and
you're scared for him. And then when you're older, I
don't know, like you're scared for the mom because she
can't help her kid.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Oh yeah, and the other moms are just standing there
and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Yeah, you know, and even like it's like she's pulling
on the and then like she like stops and like
takes a breath, like oh my god, like what do
I do? And just Tony Klett like we were talking
about and like she clutches him after like she yells
about the butterfly pendant and then he comes in and
he's like if you're not mad, like can I sleep
with you?

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
And she holds him and he's like shaking and she's
like tell me what's wrong, and like she can't, and
it's just heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Maybe where shaking.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
What's wrong?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
It's heartbreaking And it's scary, you know because in that
moment when she's she's scared that he's shaking. I remember
I was like, oh my god, like so it's this
beautiful blend of like drama and constant tension, you know.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah, yeah, going back to like the twist at the
end when you're like finding out all those things. The
one scene that always gets me because I always forget
about it is the door handle and then he pulled
the camera pulls out and you see there's a table there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
I always forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I always forget that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I'm like, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Like in the jewelry store when she gives her employee
that gift and like they start hugging and then the
glass breaks and then you see him like walking around
the corner. Yeah, so like he broke the glass. But
he's a ghost, But like how can he do stuff?
Like how did the glass break?

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
But if he can open the door to the basement,
then I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Then he could guess he.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Can actually physically touch Yeah that one ghost some goes
hurt coal. So maybe there's yeah, maybe there is, so
that they don't understand that they're dead, maybe they can
interact with like physical things.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Because everywhere else it's a such a good little detail.
Is that, like he doesn't touch anything else, Like I
mean like he'll like sit down, but like when he
sees her at the dinner, when he goes to meet
her at the Italian restaurant, the chair is already like
open and he just sits down, doesn't move it or
anything even like you know in in the House with

(01:01:20):
Tony Kut's character, like that chair is just there, like
you know, there's no like moving stuff to get where
he needs to be. And speaking of the dinner scene,
like everything throughout the whole movie, but I noticed it
specifically in that scene, like everything is motivated by something else,
so like they like try to make it seem like
she's still interacting with him a little bit. So like

(01:01:42):
when she gets the check, she looks up towards him,
but it's because somebody laughed off screen and she like
looked up to see who it was or whatever. It's
just little things that it's just it's just really cool
and they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah, and how she whispers to no one, but we
think it's to him happy anniversary, and she like, right, yeah,
sad And once you know the ending, I really feel
so sad for Hannah now we know her name is Yeah,
she really feels sad totally such a it's so sad,

(01:02:17):
Like I always always, no matter how many times I
see it, I always get choked up at the end
of Ghost, and I forget that this ending is a
little similar, where it's a ghost saying goodbye to his
loved one. At least at least in Ghost. You know,
Demimoor and Patrick Swayzee are really communicating here. They're not
even actually like she's sleeping, so.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
But it's bittersweet because he does like give her the closure.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Oh my god, I love how it's such a great
visual representation because you always think, like, if I lose
someone close to me, how the hell am I ever
gonna deal with that. It's impossible. It's too much, it's
too it's too much pain. But this movie kind of
shows you, like literally what it looks like to be
like you will get through it. It's okay. We're going

(01:03:04):
to actually show you this moment of like them actually
like their memory kind of allowing you to move on,
Like it's it's not only better for you with it,
so they can like not be trapped in this space. Yeah, oh,
I have the power of healing And.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
M Night Shamalan, did I think a great thing by
like when he goes back to when you see the
opening scene again at the end, like they show you
what happened, like with him getting shot, and then he
rolls over.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
And he says, what does he say? He says, like, I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Don't even feel it, Like it doesn't even hurt anymore. Yeah,
and you're just like okay, like you're done, like your
journey's done, like you've you're heeled. You know, now you
can move on. But even though that happened at the beginning,
you know, you don't see it until later and he says,
it doesn't even hurt anymore. And then oh, yeah, that's
such a.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Good point because it's like he's acknowledging it almost for
the first time, because yeh, he's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But it's so funny still to this day. Every time
I watch the movie when when the ending is revealed
and we see his bullet wound, I always think, where's
the blood and then and like I'm always like, oh, well,
come on, there needs to be some blood wise, and
then it's like oh right, no, then there's a reveal
behind him his back, you know, but I always forget that,
so I'm always like, h they like totally skimmed out

(01:04:25):
on the blood.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Yeah yeah, and he's always wearing he's always wearing his jacket,
so like you never see that's the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
And going back to that good scene where she's getting
close with the guy and he breaks the window. I
never really noticed it until this time. As he runs off,
he's kind of clutching his.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Oh yeah yeah hands still play off as like he's
still we do know he was shot. They never like
denied that information, so it's like, Okay, he's just like
clearly yeah hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
He's moving the fastest we've ever seen him in the movie,
so it could realistically just like as he's getting out
of there, rushing away, it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Hurts, so totally.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
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Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
I see dead people walking around like regular people. I
don't see anything. Are you sure they're there?

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Sometimes? Side like you following down real fast?

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
You ever feel.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Thanks? Make it back.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
And you see them everywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
How about you? Danny? Any other favorite moments?

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
A few that standing I mean, like one is the obvious,
it's it's the big reveal I see dead people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Oh yeah, right in the middle. I even checked it.
It's like almost directly half way through.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Yeah, it's like we're now going to be we're telling
a different story now. I just love that moment. It's
it's it's almost like too iconic, where it's hard to
choose it as a favorite, but I.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Was gonna fly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
I also love which is kind of like an extension
of that scene when he's at the school with Cole
is at the school with Malcolm and he's walking and
he sees the hanging ghosts in the school and he
kind of he's kind of explaining, like what it is
to elaborate ghosts, Yeah, elaborate, thank you. He elaborates on

(01:06:35):
what it is to see ghosts, or even not to
sea ghosts, just for ghosts to be around, and like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
How can you imagine? Can you imagine? That?

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
So scary?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
That's terrifying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Yeah, when he's in the on the bus with Malcolm
and he glances over at the cemetery and he has
to look away.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
He's there, especially to an eight year old kid.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
That's why to go back to that opening scene. What
if when God was Anna, when Anna's in the basement
and it's cold, and what if the fact that Donnie
Wahlberg's character Vincent, maybe he's attracting these like because he's
clearly haunted by like horrific ghosts, maybe he's kind of

(01:07:25):
attracted them and that's kind of a sign that he's there,
is that these ghosts are kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Well, no, it's true because they look, you know, like
they were looking to Cold to get their closure so
that he could help them with saying things. So they
would probably be doing the same thing with Vincent.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
That's a good point. Yeah, God, that's so disturbing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Isn't that so disturbing? Is good?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
What is it? Is he in anything else?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Blue Blood?

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Blue Blood?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
That's right, he's saw To? Is he like a cop
and saw To.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
He's like the main character. Yeah, he's the detective and
his son is played by I can't remember the actor's name,
but he's the character in uh Scream four? Is it rich?
It's Charlie Walker's friend. They do Scream it on?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, I forgot yeah, Yeah, the one that's like I'm
gay before you. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Yeah, you know,
Donny's better than I remember, like better than most people think.
Even when you see him in good stuff, you still
it still doesn't like permeate that. It's like, no, he
actually is a good actor.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
He just yeah, you know, I think this is genuinely
like an insanely good performance. I think that the transformation is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I'm gonna watch it when we when we're done with this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Just this little, this little bedtime scene.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I mean, I yeah, that's casey.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
You just watched the opening. You don't get the closure
at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yeah, I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Think for them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
The Misha Barton scene.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Say we got to talk about Misha.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Yeah, yeah, when Cole and Malcolm, when Cole finally kind
of like steps up and it is like let's help him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
That whole sequence I always forget, Like how that's basically
like the climax of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Yeah, yeah, he actually like steps in, gets involved and
yeah helps the ghost and yeah it's kind of like
they all go away, or maybe they don't go.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
We're gonna Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, he's not like he's not like scared of them anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
He just totally.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Yeah, because then you see the learned lady in the
in the dressing room, and that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I always forget about her, and that's a thirteen ghosts.
Oh yeah, totally, but I forgot about what I'm doing. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
Yeah, I'm saying that that's the scene that like always
stands out for me. But then I'm not gonna steal
the thunder from anyone. So Mark, if you have, like
some other scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I would steal it, go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
It's just like the car scene with Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, well thank.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
You for.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
All right. Well the best scene of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
It's truly I could I have watched just that scene
like just on like YouTube or whatever, and I do
that scene way too many times in my acting classes
for adults and for kids, and I just pull it
out and I'm gonna give you this scene. You are
Tony Collette, you take your time, or I give it
to a kid like I love that scene. It is
beautifully acted, the words and again it goes back to

(01:10:40):
that bumblebee pendant and we can feel Mom's tension with
that because of her tension with Mom. Oh my god.
It's beautiful and also still spooky because of the bike rider. Yeah,
you know, cyclists next to my window, you know, yeah,
oh yeah, that was creepy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
You guys get the impression that, now, why am I
forgetting Tony Kallet's character's name?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
I think, Mom, do you want to guess her name
to you? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
It's Lynn Lynn Lynn?

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Okay? Do you ever do you get the impression that
obviously there's she's so based in reality that maybe she
doesn't allow herself to believe it, but I get you know,
it's like that thing of like sometay's parents just know
what's going on, you know, moms know. Because there's that
moment where she's like looking at the photo and she
sees the glimmers of light. I almost feel like she knows,

(01:11:29):
or she has this like inkling that something outside of
her comprehension is happening. So when Cole kind of opens
up to her at the end, it's almost like that's
not the first time she's considered that, but it's her
moment where she has to contend with it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Yeah, and you know what, she does understand her son
in a weird way, but she's afraid to confront it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
To actually talk about it. Yeah, it's in a way,
it's almost it almost kind of feels like maybe you
know when when parents kind of know that their kid
is queer but I'm not ready to talk about it admitted,
or like how do I you know?

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
But he is coming out moment that's just coming yeah
for sure. But that scene that you're talking about where
she's like noticing like the orbs in every photo, which
is I always forget about it and it's always so good,
and also just her face and her makeup, like just
the close ups. I love it, but I never noticed
it until because I was watching with earbuds. I'm pretty
sure she's listening to believe by share on her It

(01:12:30):
sounds like that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
If you guys, trying to subconsciously convince herself to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, I thought I was going to go back to
the coming out thing with Sharon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Gay and oh maybe that too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Yeah, it's cool with those photographs, like those those orbs
where she sees like the shine of like it's always
placed in the photograph on something where it could just
be a glare or like a you know, a light
flare from something bouncing off like so it's really cool,
like just where the placement is where it's like, oh

(01:13:05):
yeah in every photo, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Right, we believe that, like yeah, those have been up
there for years, but just now she's really noticed it,
because you know, it's just something you kind of take
for granted, it's a glare, but yeah, it's it's a
cool scene for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Oh because she has that moment earlier when she walks
into the kitchen after closing all the cabinets.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
And the very poltergeist yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Hand, like she knows something's up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I want to ask you, guys, I want to ask
you that's something I wanted to ask you.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Who did it better? Poltergeist or the Sixth Sense?

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Oh god, that's tough. I mean, Poltergeist is so iconic.
It I'll just say I'm I mean, I love that
scene in this movie and her scream and he feels
he's sitting there so guilty looking but he's not guilty, right,
but he doesn't want to. But I'm gonna go with
Poltergeist just because like that's a scene you just remember
from Poltergeist.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
For me, yeah, you know, I'll say, Okay, Poultrygeist is
more iconic and memorable, but it is played for like,
not for the laughs, But it's it's it's it's still
at that point in the story where like you're having
fun with the ghost. And then in this one, once
you in hindsight or like in retrospect, when you know

(01:14:20):
that it's the mom who killed herself who's opening up
these cabinets, makes it so disturbing that she's just like
in the room with sitting there by freaks me out.
But it's it's more of like a thinker kind of
you have to like consider it. So I'll also go
with Poultry guyst because it's Poltrygeist and it's just iconic

(01:14:41):
and the way that they it's so fun.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
But this is.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
As far as like scariness, I think this is scarier.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Sure, yeah, because poltry Geist, like you know they had
like the chairs are all stacked up everything, and so
you're thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
Like how did they do that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Right, which, if you don't know, there was people hiding
all over the set and then they already.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Had that chair and then just like splipped it out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
But but this one, like I keep picturing like who's
gonna run? Who ran in there and opened up all
the cabinets and then like while they're filming, I'm like
r they were good Danny, Like, I didn't think about that,
just being like like, you know, it's a ghost that
did it and whatever. But like the fact that she
was just like moving around Cole as he sat there

(01:15:29):
like eating And.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
That's why I wouldn't eat his cereal because his hand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
And it would make you it would make sense that
his palms are sweating because he's dealing with this crazy
What does she say to him, like dinner's not ready yet?

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Oh yeah, we're talking about scenes. God, when I was
a kid, I could not. I mean I had to,
but like going like waking up to pee in the
middle of the night. Oh, Like to this day, I
still think about it. I'm like, don't please.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Oh yeah, you know I was living in a haunted
house when this movie came out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Oh wow, you have experiences Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Oh yeah for seven years in that house.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, were they were they like was it a bad
ghost or was it just like okay, were you and
did you ever see?

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Like not, I never saw an apparition, but we were
very like doors would open and close by themselves, electronics
turned on and off, cupboards were open and closed by themselves.
We would hear footsteps like that. It was a huge farmhouse.
It was like twenty two rooms, but it was just
my mom, my brother and me. So we lived on
the downstairs floor and there was nothing upstairs because we
didn't need it, but we would hear like footsteps and

(01:16:44):
stuff up there all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Dude, Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
It was the empty second floor. Whoa, yeah that is hoooky.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Oh it's it was very spooky.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
All right, our next movie here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
No, so you know what, it's funny because it is
called the Old Wickersham House. Oh yeah, so it's like,
you know wow, oh yeah, wow. Yeah, it was a cemetery.
There was a cemetery on one side of it, an
apple orchard and part of the backyard and then farm farmland.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
And your mom's like, your mom's like a giant eagle
grocery store. And she's like, oh, we just moved into
the old Wickersham place and people yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Yes, yeah, you live in Whipstaff manor.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I never lived in a haunted house, but years ago
in high school, we had a seance at my friend's
really old old historic house and shit went down like
and I tried to record it on my old camera
and I charged that sucker all night long. Within five minutes,
the battery drained. My friend was acting really weird. We

(01:17:51):
all heard things. So yeah, I'm a huge believer in
all this stuff because I happen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Oh yeah, I did a ghost tour at the Transitalic
Any Lunatic Asylum in West Virginia like two years ago.
I'm going to a Halloween party there this year, and
I'm really excited about it. But yeah, and it was
just like so scary. It was.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
God, we need to do Sorry, we're I'm plugging our
podcast now, but you're invited, You're you're gonna go cool.
We should do a bonus episode that's like, how like
how we met like real monsters?

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
And like, well, yeah, genius, how I met my real monster?
Just out a couple of letters to.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Lose it a little bit of the flow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
I think, did they know that you're one of these
very rare people who can see them so you need
to help them?

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
If I don't think that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Way it works for yeah, I'll just add one scene
and too funny that I don't think are supposed to
be funny, but they made me laugh one other scene
because a lot of what you're talking about right there
with you. I mean the car scene, Tony, I mean
the party, the birthday party so scary. I'll just say
the one line from the birthday party, in addition to

(01:19:14):
the awful rock music that is playing so kids like
but ninety nine the music we were talking about great
that music in the late nineties was like, all right,
turn that all yeah. But and I'm just so impressed
that Lynn, that mom could just hear his screams over.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
That awful run.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
But I love when she's like talking to the moms
and about chuck E Cheese and the mom goes, Chucky
who and he's it's a kid's place. I'm like, oh
my god, Like, these moms are so awful. They don't
even know chuck E Cheese? Right, So I just shot
at that. But another scene I really love, and it's
a simple one, but it's just so special, and again

(01:19:54):
they're acting is just so perfect. A quick, little quiet scene.
They're leaving acme gross three store, Cole sitting in the grocery,
you know cart and and Mom just looks at him
and she knows obviously he's been having a tough time.
She's been having a tough time, and she just kind
of like takes him on a little ride and he
puts his hands out. It's so sweet, Like I got

(01:20:14):
a little cheery eyed there because it's just such a
simple scene. Maybe I don't even know if it was scripted,
like I could easily see something like that, just like
kind of you know, spur of the moment. You know,
it's just very sweet with very little and I just
love that to her character.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Yeah, we keep kind of like harping on it, but
she's like trying to find happiness for her son wherever.
Yeh mind it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
You know, she knows he's off, she knows he's weird,
but she never like you know, the look at my face,
Like she never wants him to know that she's worried
about him. She can tell when he's stressed or like
really in his head, and you know how she asks
m night. Shyamalan and in his first of many cameos
in his career, she said, she's like, you think I'm

(01:21:01):
a bad mother.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
It's like she's so is not at all like we know, you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Know, Oh that's such a good scene. And Malcolm's like Jesus,
uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Yeah, Malcolm just like hanging around all and like no
one's talking to him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
It's just like there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
It is funny that like like nobody holds the door
for him and he's.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Like, yeah, my ghost, I just walked through that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I feel like I feel like the Scary movie movies
should have spoofed this a little bit more because that
would have been really funny if like people just keep
like like throwing stuff and you know. But yeah, one
thing that I did, one thing I would have done
maybe just to add to this. I mean, it's a
perfect movie, like we're all saying worth all its awards
and all this money. But one thing I would have

(01:21:47):
done is just to maybe have a close up moment
to show Tony Collett kind of like like maybe in
that scene with the doctor, he's there for her to
kind of look at him and him to look at her,
and just for us to kind of like maybe believe,
you know, that he's real and like because like she

(01:22:10):
never acknowledges him, he doesn't even really talk to her,
like I don't know, you know what I mean. I
feel like that would have been the moment.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
Yes, she just had to look in that direction.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
With the Jana and the dinner scene and she looks
up and you think she's looking at Malcolm. But it's
just it's like little moments like that like really just
kind of oversell that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Yeah, because when he says like so and so is here,
she's like a psychiatrist and she wants to ask you questions,
like she could have been on that side of the room. Yeah,
And then and then the character just like looks over
at her and you think that she's looking at Yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
My god, I just did it myself. But yeah, she
could look over at the woman and then look next
to the woman kind of like you would naturally do,
or you look at this person you don't want to
look at, and you're like, surely, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
It's so funny, you guys obviously, like I'm sure that,
like the hospital has their own like professional staff for
these situations, but it's as an audience, we're like, wait
a minute, there's literally a child psychologist standing with them,
working who has no relationship with the mother, So why
would the doctor just be like hey, so, like that
is itself is like such a flag.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Yeah, true, you're right. See now we now we know.
And then one line that I just have to quote
it is a weird line. I don't even know if
that many people caught it. I've never caught it. And
I've seen this movie a bunch until today. So Jana, Janna,
Anna and whoever choose your own adventure. So wife fair,

(01:23:41):
wife is share Believe is talking to you know, kind
of like guy that she likes, and but we're not
seeing it, We're hearing it. This is earlier on in
the film, and Bruce Willis is sort of like hearing it,
and the guy invites her to like Amish country, which
I'm from the Philly air so like it that isn't
so crazy where like, yeah, it's not that far, Like

(01:24:03):
I guess you could go on a date. I mean
it's like an hour away, but kind of weird. But
her mind to him is, oh, I don't know if
I can deal with the Amish today. You can't curse
or spit around them. And I even rewound it and
I watched with captions.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
I'm like, how much is she doing?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Like why do you want to curse and spit? Like
what those are?

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
It explained it in all the deleted scenes that they
could out of her just spitting on the sidewalk as
she walks by they're like, gosh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
It, like we'll cut those. But now that line's not
going to make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, it is one of the most random character details
ever because she just doesn't and like I just imagine,
because we don't see the boyfriend will call him. But
he's just like, oh okay, Like you could have said anything.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Yeah, you could have just said no, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
She could have been like, oh I'm tired, but she's like, oh,
I can't deal with the amish. I'm a real cursing
and spitting mood and you can't do that around them. Meanwhile,
they like have their wives locked up. I'm sure you
can do whatever you want around them. But whatever, I digress.
But just how to say that line? That's that's, you know,
just an interesting choice. Now I'm gonna wrap it up,

(01:25:22):
but I want to ask you all, since you guys
all you you three talk about this on your show.
Each of you can shout out. Maybe there's only one
shout out. I don't know, but who is the monster
in this movie? You you talk about the monster on
your show.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
Yeah, I mean there's the literal monster. Like we we
actually talked about this because we had never covered this show.
So we were like, who would be I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I know, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Well, we've cover movies before that have like multiple monsters. Yeah,
but then even when you when you go back, like
when the movie's oh where, you realize that, like none
of them are monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
They were just trapped.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Except for Mesha Barton's she's the real monster.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Yeah sure, but like the ghosts.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Actually there's one one ghost who beats up who abuses
coal right in the in the like he literally I
was imprisoned and he's violent.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
There are I guess some off screen ghosts because he
does get hurt. You know, he has scratches on it.
There are ghosts that are attacking him. We just don't
see them totally.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Well, it looks like we can't cover it. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Yeah, I mean I think would be the Brady kid
from school, the actor.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
Oh yeah, Tommy, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
I love how when they're and in the play at
the end and he doesn't have the lead role and
he's just like whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Yeah, the other kid says be quiet, village idiot or something.
It's perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
I think the fiance and the jewelry store is the monster.
Oh yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Like, oh yeah, that's a great point.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
You don't get yourself in a tizzy like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Do you have anything, plainer? You want a plane ring
for your plane. I'm like, all right, we don't. We
don't care about you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Sorry, yeah, I better call out the grandma. He's getting
in trouble like cutting the ship, Like what are you
doing with it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
That's a great Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah,
she knows that Cole is getting the.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
Blood of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
You're so right, wow, Grandma's yeah, all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Right, okay, sorry, think about other than that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Not every gift anyone.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
There, he's a blessing the sixth sense.

Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
I'm working on.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Something that always stands out with this movie, which always
was a bummer, but it was kind of an inevitable bummer,
like there's really no escaping it because this movie was
so popular, but it kind of inadvertently overshadowed the others
when the others came out in two thousand and one
and that movie. I mean, there are times where I

(01:28:17):
consider the others maybe like one of my in my
top five like movies of all time, like it's so good, yeah,
but it was so hard for it to like find
its legs because you couldn't get over the even though
I mean, I won't spoil it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
And the twist, oh well, you're good.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
Yeah, just the twist. It's not the same, but it's
kind of similar.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
So anytime I watch a ghost movie, I'm already like, well,
these people think they're alive and they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for listening to this episode of
Release Date Rewind. The Sixth Sense was number one for
six weeks in a row. How about that, and didn't
leave the top ten until late November, becoming the second
highest grossing film of nineteen ninety nine. It also went
on to earn six Oscar nooms, including Best Picture Director,

(01:29:09):
Original Screenplay, Supporting Actors, Supporting Actress, and Editing, among many
other awards and noms. It of course launched the career
of m Night Shyamalan and his Love Them or Hate
Them thrillers and everybody. We discuss all of his movies
in a short bonus episode on the Release Date Rewind
YouTube page, So go check that out right now. We're

(01:29:29):
ending the episode with a quick rundown of m Night
Shyamalan's movies, because, as we know, this guy is quite polarizing,
love him, hate him. There's really no in between now
two years or no one year later Unbreakable, which I
was in. I was in a couple of his movies
because of the wait. Really just as like featured extra stuff.
But I'm an undeleted scene of Unbreakable. But in Lady

(01:29:50):
in the Water, I worked on that for like two
weeks and almost had to drop out of college because
I kept missing class to.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Be in like are You the Lady in the Water?

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Thank you to my great guests and fellow podcast hosts.
I guess you could call them ghosts if you will. Danny,
Zach and Casey from the How I Met Your Monster
Podcast still love that title for a show. Such a
good idea. Give their show a listen and some love.
Thanks Strawha Media, Kyle Motsinger, Greg Clemens and Portland Media Center,

(01:30:20):
and everybody. If you aren't already follow me on Instagram
at release date. Rewind to see clips of our conversation,
more footage from and trivia about the Sixth Sense, plus
find out there what we'll be talking about in the
next episode. Bye.

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