November 27, 2025 • 32 mins
What if your biggest detour was the doorway to a truer life? That’s the pulse of our conversation with Arlene Cohen Miller, who traded a steady legal career for a practice rooted in coaching, mentoring, and meditation. We unpack how a mother’s quest to support a neurodivergent child can become a mirror for her own nervous system, values, and boundaries—and how the tools that help our kids often end up healing us.
Arlene takes us from a scrappy storefront law office and new motherhood to building a community that replaced competition with generosity. She shares the messy middle: navigating two divorces, hearing “put him on meds” from every direction, trying nutrition and alternative care, and sitting with the guilt when expert plans went sideways.
We get tactical about life at work. Arlene now helps executive women and founders negotiate from the heart, bringing confidence and calm into daily conversations where stakes feel high. Think love-based negotiation, practical boundaries, and the mantra “practice makes permanent” to strengthen new habits and neural pathways. By the end, you’ll have a blueprint: curate your tribe, let nature recalibrate you, visualize better responses, and return—gently and often—to the purpose you’re building.
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This is my friend.
SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
If you've ever struggled with fear, doubt, or
worry, and wondering what yourtrue purpose was all about, then
this podcast is for you.
In this show, your host, SylviaWarsham, will interview elite
experts and ordinary people thathave created extraordinary
lives.
So here's your host, SylviaWarsham.
SPEAKER_02 (00:29):
Hello, light bringers, it's Sylvia Warsham.
Welcome to Release Out with RealPurpose.
And today's Arlene Miller, andshe's out of Colorado, and I
know she has an amazing story oftransformation to share with us.
So without further ado, welcomeArlene.
Please share with us thatamazing story of transformation.
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
I don't know, those feel amazing to me because I
lived it and I lived through itall.
So when I was 15 years old, Idecided I wanted to become an
attorney.
And I did that.
I went to Emory University.
I went to University in KentuckyCollege of Law.
That's where I grew up inLouisville, Kentucky.
And so I became an attorney.
And I got married in my secondyear of law school and moved up
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with my then husband up to asuburb of Cleveland.
And I passed the Kentucky bar,but I had to go past the Ohio
bar.
And I worked for a couple ofyears for a solo practitioner
and then decided that it justreally wasn't for me working for
other people.
And I really couldn't find a bigfirm to hire me.
And I really didn't know what Iwanted to do, so I went out on
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my own.
And I started my own little solopractitioner office.
And about a month after I openedthe door, I was like in this
really cute little storefrontoffice.
It was not fancy at all.
I was with two other attorneys,the collect an employment
agency, and later a guy that umdid um help businesses collect
their debts.
So um I opened my little office.
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It was before the age ofcomputers and all that kind of
stuff, hardly just for just theri really rudimentary that um
legal secretaries would do.
And I immediately found out thatI was pregnant.
And so all my family, all ofthem were in Kentucky, as well
as all the colleagues that Igraduated from law school with.
So I had no tribe.
And um I just learned how tobuild my own tribe and still um
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build my business, which wasreally I mean, the first year I
was working part-time because itwas impossible.
I tried having him on a littleswing in my law firm.
That didn't work.
I found a lovely, lovelygrandmother who was taking care
of children in her home, allheart.
And uh so she was my godsend andshe took care of my son when I
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was working.
And um, when she got ill, herdaughter was in her early 20s
and was like the nanny for therest of the time that I lived in
Ohio.
Um I sold my business um when hemine and we moved across country
to Longmont, Colorado, to that Icould buy into this law firm
that I was a part of until abouteight years ago.
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And when I was um about the lastsix or seven years that I was
practicing law, I have someabsolutely amazing women
friends, and one had started herown coaching school.
She became a certified coach,but she just felt like the way
they taught was like way tooheady and not enough from the
heart.
And so she started her ownschool, and after three years,
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she she said she kept on saying,You you this could really help
you, Arlene.
I'm like, nah, I'm good.
But you know what?
She was right.
You know, I really didn't know,it didn't teach me how to
listen, it didn't really teachme that kind of big heartfelt
coaching presence that you canuse for everything.
So I got my diploma in coachingand mentoring, and then I had a
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friend who did the same thing asa counselor, and so I got a
diploma in transformationalholistic counseling from
Australia.
Um, I can't use it in the US,but it it helps me do what I do.
And I also, another one of myfriends um started doing this
certification for meditation, soI took that as well.
I thought, I'm a little bit of ahyper person, I can be a little
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bit uh driven.
That would really help me in mypractice to uh to help people.
So I got all of that, and then Ireally just noticed that I I'd
been practicing law for over 30years, and I needed a change,
and I really wanted to helppeople in a new way, and that's
when I opened up my new businessduel consultancy for coaching
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and mentoring and meditation andthings that can just really help
people to move forward.
Not that different from thepractice of law, but I get that
more hands-on approaches thatI'd like I call it a different
side of the jewel.
So that's this that's the shortstory.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
You know, it sounds like you have been very busy for
a long time, but I bet thatshift that occurred for you
occurred after something major,like a turning point.
What do you what do you thinkthat was for you?
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
What shifted?
Well, I had a lot of turningpoints in my life.
Um, I've been married anddivorced twice, and um both of
the men are lovely kind men.
It's just there's there was likeafter a while, there wasn't that
affinity that you needed to havefor a marriage.
And so I divorced my firsthusband when my son was like two
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and a half.
Like I told him I wanted adivorce when he was two and a
half, and my son um sort ofdeveloped, you know, tendencies
for ADHD, and I didn't realizeat the time that it was a
carrier, that I had the samething, more of an ADD variety.
And I just knew that I needed tohelp him, you know, that I
needed to find a way that hecould interact with people in a
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way that that was gonna work forhim.
And so as his mother, I lookedeverywhere, you know.
I looked to healers, I lookedeverywhere, um, naturopaths,
homeopaths, because I reallydidn't want to just stick him on
drugs right away.
Um, we ended up doing that laterbecause nothing else was
working.
Um but his path, my I I thoughtI was helping to heal him, but
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that was helping to heal me.
You know, just to to try allthese different kinds of healing
modalities, meet all thesepeople that really were wanted
to be in service to otherpeople, help other people heal
in in non-traditional ways.
And it just sort of changed thetrajectory of my life.
And um, it was not easy, youknow, to be a mother of someone
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that needed more attention.
But uh, much to my surprise, heturned into a really, really
lovely man.
Um, he's now um an amazingentrepreneur.
He works with um, he became achess champion in Colorado in
the 10th grade.
That became one of his passionsin addition to karate.
And so he teaches chess to kidsin before and after school
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programs, runs chesstournaments, um, chess camps in
the summer.
But, you know, I had to learnalso as a part of that
transformational healing as amother, maybe some of you guys
will relate to this, that Ineeded to step back and I needed
to allow him to fail.
And that was not an easy thingto do, you know, as a mother,
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just to say, you know, hey, I Ihave to allow my son to get
fired from a job or fall flat onhis face.
Um, so those were, I mean, therewas a lot of different
transitional points in my life.
It wasn't just one thing, it waslike a series of things, but
that's where it began, we beganwith him.
SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
I love that story because as you were talking, my
mind went back to the yearswhere I two divorced, and my
son, when I married my secondhusband, started showing signs
of ADHD, and he actually had thehyperactivity portion to it.
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And like you, I dove intomodalities to help him.
And but initially, with hishyperactivity, it was getting
very disruptive at school, thatbecomes a real issue.
Um, and the school districtsaid, Well, we can do 504
planning, but it might help toput him on something.
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And we unfortunately started themedication route, and it's
unfortunate because it turnedout that his was more anxiety
driven than it was ADHDprimarily.
And so what ended up happeningwas that the medication that
they put him on, the stimulant,actually made his anxiety worse.
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And so that's where the um thefailure for me came in.
And I think, in part, like theguilt that kind of came with
that later, because I shouldhave known better.
But the truth was here's thetruth.
This is what the mind does.
The mind will tell you what afailure.
How could you not think of this?
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But the truth of the matter was,I was following doctor's orders.
These guys are supposed to knowhow to guide patients in this
and not automatically put kidson medication.
I agree with you.
I think the medication route istoo fast of a solution.
And the meditation route, Itaught him meditation later when
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he was in high school because hehad to be taken off the
medication eventually when hisOCD got really bad.
And um, and he started havingsuicidal thoughts, which is what
some of these medications willpromote a lot of.
And certain kids, not all kidsget them, but in certain kids
they did.
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And it scared us.
It scared my second husband andI so much that we said, no more.
We we went the supplement routeand we did nutritional route.
I mean, I went I dug intoeverything, but it's interesting
how you said that as you duginto more of the modalities, it
was really to help you as well.
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My god, yes.
Um, because I found the same thesame thing to be true about
myself, because I was the onethat passed down the ADHD
portion.
And later, genetically, I did ablood work just recently and it
showed very low dopamine levels,and both my parents had passed
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on that gene, and so the doctorexplained it's no wonder your
kids are suffering from ADD andthat you are as well, because
you're not biologically, you youwere kind of messed up.
So there's like no way that youcould have done it any other
way, but the way that you didit.
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And I always think that Godplaces us to be the perfect mom
for our children.
We were the ones that that endup having the same things, and
and he knows us, he knows thatwe're gonna be research people
and we're gonna dive into thesethings, and we're gonna find the
solution for our kiddos, and inthe process, heal ourselves.
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So I find your story veryenlightening, and I do have a
follow-up question for you, andthat is which route did you take
first?
Was it meditation that youstarted off with to find a
solution?
Or kind of got guide us on yourface with these issues.
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How do you go about it?
SPEAKER_00 (11:29):
Well, I guess uh the way I mean I did a I tried a lot
of different healing modalitiesjust to learn how to do them to
see if I could do them on my onmy with my son.
And you know, I did findcounselors to work with him and
homeopaths and naturopaths, andwhen all that didn't work, we
did put him on the medicationand it did work.
Um I guess I there was somecounseling and stuff for myself
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because I felt like a failure asa mother, you know, that my
child was having all theseproblems in school and all these
teachers were saying, put him ondrugs, put him on drugs, put him
on drugs.
And you know, having beeninvolved in the medical
profession with my firsthusband, a lot of the they don't
teach you nutrition in medicalschool.
They they you know, and now it'seven worse, you know, than when
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he was there.
That, you know, they're the drugcompanies, you know, basically
um pay for all this medicalstuff, but that's all that they
really learn, and I think that'sreally, really sad.
So I guess for myself, um theway I my path of self-healing
was more to find um like mytribe, my group of supportive
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women.
And I also found that since I Ididn't know I had AD ADD.
I don't think I have ADHD.
Who could, who knows?
But I found that, you know, likeyoga, meditation, and in my
earlier years before my bodysaid no more.
I did a lot of running and a lotof racing.
And and that helped with theendorphins that I could just
chill out, be in my heart withmy son, be a better mother, be a
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better attorney, um, just justby getting that relief.
So, you know, I guess the, youknow, and I always knew and I
always seemed to draw friends tomyself that were like my
teachers, that were reallyheart-based, and we could really
have these communications witheach other and support each
other.
That, you know, I ended up like,you know, building a tribe
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around myself of really likeloving, caring, supportive women
from uh, you know, a bunch ofdifferent backgrounds.
And and that helped as well.
And so I didn't really know thatI was doing that at the time,
but looking back in hindsight,you know, I did learn all these
healing modalities.
Um, I do still know how to do abunch of them.
I that's really not my area offocus.
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But I'm glad I did it because II ran into to and became friends
with a lot of women that theirwhole focus in life was to help
other people to heal in whateverway they could.
And, you know, I think that'sinvaluable.
SPEAKER_02 (13:53):
It is because it forms these collaborations that
if you can't fulfill the need ofa person you know who can.
Well, this person is, and that'swhat we were talking about prior
to the interview.
I I find it so interesting howyour tribe was all women, which
I think is amazing because Iknow I have felt a lot of
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competition from other women inmy past, and it's led me to kind
of friend more men because theydon't kind of get pulled into
the drama uh and the competitionthat women kind of get pulled
into.
So you mentioned they're loving,they're caring, they're
supportive.
What other values did you lookfor in these women that can
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maybe guide women out there?
SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
Yeah, and I just want to say that I agree with
you.
There's a lot of stuff in thegenetics, there's a lot of stuff
in the underlying culture that'sthat that trains women to be um
think the other woman is theenemy, like she's gonna take
away your man or or whatever itis that's going on.
Yeah, and it's really, really,really sad.
And I think that sometimes Ivisualize myself as a salmon
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swimming upstream, choosing todo it differently, because I
think a lot of it comes from us.
You know, if you're if you'renot someone that wants to
compete with other women, andthat's not what you're about.
And I do have a lot of menfriends, I think they're
wonderful, just like you too.
But in those early days, um, Ijust had a there was a it's
really interesting.
I um and I I found her, I waspracticing law in Cleveland, and
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my ex-husband had my son on theweekends, and I just happened to
be in the office at seveno'clock at night, which never
ever happened.
And she called and had no moneyfor a divorce, really.
And she she wanted, she hadnever divorced her ex, who was
very, very abusive because shehad found the love of her life
and wanted to get remarried, andso did he.
And so um, she was just one ofthese kind of really, really
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giving people, and I did herstuff, and she did some stuff
for me, and then we became likebest friends, and uh, we were
like the the main person to helpeach other in each other's
weddings when we got remarried,and she introduced me to some
like-minded women, so and we allI found different, we were in
like in different paths and finddifferent ways to help each
other, and so I feel it'spossible, but you have to really
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have your sixth sense out thereto be like, you know, is this a
a woman that can come togetherand just be giving and caring
and not be in competition withme?
And I was lucky to find a few,but you know, and I really hope
that we can model that for otherwomen, it doesn't have to be
that way, and I think it'sreally sad that it is a, I don't
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know, maybe a part of ourgenetics or a part of the way
it's been.
I don't know why, but it's nothelpful.
SPEAKER_02 (16:37):
You know, I think the modeling really helps
because when you're someone thatsupports them, that empowers
them, that can see their lightand say, you know what, you're
beautiful, and just be veryauthentic when you talk to them.
I think it gives them a senseof, hey, this woman is not out
here to compete with me.
She's out here to collaboratewith me.
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I was modeled that by my fatherand mother.
Both my both of them carriedthis confidence within
themselves that never competedwith another human being.
They only competed with theirpast self.
I saw that every day.
I like which is awesome becausethat's the way it's supposed to
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be.
Yeah.
We are supposed to be competingwith our past self, and we're
supposed to be striving to beour higher selves, to have a
higher level of consciousnessthat we didn't have yesterday.
unknown (17:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
That we're supposed to reflect and look at what how
could I have done this better?
I know that I'm loved, that I'mworthy of love, and this
challenge is showing up.
What am I meant to learn?
That's the higher level ofconsciousness that I seek when I
start to allow certain people toinfluence the way I'm thinking.
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I I have very careful now.
I used to not be.
You know, when you're younger,you don't, you're very open and
everything's rose-coloredglasses.
And I remember my father used toalways tell me, Sylvia, be aware
that that is one of your entrypoints.
Don't allow just anybody tospeak into you and influence
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you.
Be very aware of who you buildas your tribe, as your
environment, and those that arespeaking and influencing you.
And I find that that is a greattip to offer anyone, especially
during change, because in changeis when our emotions are running
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really high, and we tend to makethese snap decisions that are
not in our best interest atsometimes.
unknown (18:55):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (18:56):
Do you agree with what you're sharing?
Yeah, I agree.
And what you're sharing, becauseyou were asking me for some
tips, is that what I share andwhat I teach is that mistakes
are opportunities to learn andgrow.
They're not an opportunity thatwe don't want to use them as an
opportunity to beat ourselvesup.
We made a mistake.
We're we're in this human body,so we're going to make lots of
mistakes.
So if if I had the samesituation or a similar situation
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arise, how could I do itdifferently next time?
It's about more love, morelight, more beauty, whatever
beautiful qualities that youwant to be, and then just like
visualize yourself there.
You know, what would it looklike?
What would it sound like?
What would it be like?
Because when we do that, wedon't beat ourselves up for the
mistakes, but we use it as alike a loving opportunity to
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grow and evolve and be more ofour best selves, then we're
we're creating that foundationthere for when something comes
up again and it will come upagain, because it's been like
maybe one of our furballs wherewe need to learn and evolve and
grow.
Um, so we have a foundationthere to do it differently next
time.
And we're never going to beperfect, but we can continue to
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use that as a basis to learn andevolve and grow.
And another thing that I tellpeople is that you know,
practice makes permanent.
You know, I was a runner foryears.
I never could like, I didn'tjust run around the block once
and go run a half marathon.
I trained like crazy because Iloved it.
And so it's the same thing ifwe're learning new ways of being
that are more about love, thatare more about self-care and
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loving and caring for others.
SPEAKER_02 (20:33):
I so agree with you, and I love what you said.
Practice makes permanent.
The first time I heard that wasfrom JP Morgan, Dr.
J.P.
Morland, he came to our churchyears ago to talk about anxiety,
generalized anxiety disorder.
And he said, in order to createnew neural pathways in the
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brain, you've got to practice,practice, practice because it
makes it permanent.
And I find that that is so, sotrue, especially in the
modalities that we were talkingabout earlier in meditation,
which I find it admission.
I don't know about you, but asan ADD person, it was tough for
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me to sit still.
unknown (21:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:23):
How was it for you?
SPEAKER_00 (21:24):
How did you master it?
But for years, um, there wasthis really, I mean, I I'm
always open to stuff, and therewas this um monk called Tik
Nathan who came to Boulder,Colorado.
They put it in like this big,huge Boulder Auditorium.
6,000 people came, and he didsomething that sort of opened up
my life.
It's like he led it, and allthese monks went behind him, and
it was a walking meditation.
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And of course, Colorado'sgorgeous.
And so, like, and for me to slowdown and walk slowly and
appreciate nature, I'm like, ohmy god, I can meditate like
this.
So the first way that I learnedmeditation was I can just go out
on a path or wherever it is,enjoy the beauty of mother
nature, slow down my breathbreathing, not be in a place
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where I'm power walking, andreally appreciate it.
Because what we're doing iswe're bringing in gratitude and
appreciation and a love of thebeauty around us.
And that is one way that you canbegin to meditate so you can
just chill out.
And what I what I do with mymeditation is I get up early.
I like set my alarm for 5 15 ifI don't get up on by 5.25 at
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least, so I can brush my teeth,use the toilet, sit down.
Why it's very, very quiet in theworld then, and that's my
meditation time because I'm notquite 100% awake, but I can
really just be in that, okay,this is it.
This is where I've set asidethis time to be more love and to
feel things and and just sloweverything down and be with
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myself and um love or however Icall it the universe or spirit,
you know, you call it God, it'sall the same thing, right?
We were talking about that, andthat's how I got into it.
But um, that introduction wasreally an eye-opener for me
because I'm like, I thought youhad to sit there and go, um, or
something.
You know, I was like reallyignorant.
I didn't realize there were somany different ways that you
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could meditate to really justcome back into your own heart's
knowing.
SPEAKER_03 (23:18):
I couldn't agree with you more.
SPEAKER_02 (23:20):
I think there's so many ways that we can meditate,
and it just needs to speak toyour soul for it to feel right.
I remember as you were talking,the first time I tried to teach
my 83-year-old mother tomeditate.
She's like, Well, what am Isupposed to do?
Because she was wanting to feelthe peace I was feeling inside,
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because she said, You havechanged so dramatically from the
girl I raised.
You were such a gung-ho type A,always on the go, always
striving, always doing, notbeing.
And I think that peace rightthere, the not being, is the
challenge, truly is theopportunity that God is granting
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us to slow down and to say,there's different ways we can do
this.
But I sat her down and I said,Mom, there's lots of apps you
can use.
There's this app right here, andI turned it on and I said, I
just want you to visualize beingthere.
So in your mind, just close youreyes and just whatever the
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meditation's telling you, that'skind of what you're doing
initially, if that works foryou.
But I love that you run out ofnature because in nature,
there's it's hard to ignore it.
It is so beautiful outside,especially Denver.
You're right.
You're walking, there's yougotta look down and be very
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intentional where you stepsometimes in Colorado.
And so walking slowly would be aperfect way to introduce
meditation into your life.
I do that now in the morningsand afternoons when I take my
small dog out for a walk.
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And I don't, the only reason Ibring my phone is if we get into
a jam, but I put it up.
I don't even have earphone, likenothing on.
I'm just listening to the birdsand nature as I'm walking him,
and I'm just truly enjoyingbeing in nature, and I'm saying
that very specifically because Icould say, well, I'm doing this,
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I'm walking the dog.
Well, that kind of takes me outof that space of meditation, and
that connection to nature isvery, very powerful.
I find that when I'm outside,downloads start to come very
easily.
Does that work for you too?
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
Sometimes I just um because I get downloads like
different places, you know,someone will say something like,
oh my god, I gotta write allthis down right now.
Um, and I find there's certaintimes of the day that things
will just flow through if I ifI'm like writing a course or
doing something.
But there's something, and Ithink society's gotten away from
it.
Um so I'm gonna emphasize whatyou said, because to me, it's
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like Mother Nature is likedivine love, and and that she
just feels so beautiful, andit's like she's uh an energy and
it's all around you.
And when you get away from yourcell phones and get away from
your computers and you're justout there appreciating it, it
can just open your heart with somuch gratitude and appreciation
that we have this ability to getout there and and appreciate,
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you know, so much.
And I just I can just sometimesjust feel so loved when I'm out
there, you know, because you'reright, there's the birds,
there's the trees.
For us, we can't always see themountains.
And um it's just it's just likeyou described, it's it's just
such a great place to torecalibrate for me in my heart,
and to also feel really, reallygrounded and fully present in my
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body because I find that if I'mfully present here now, I'm not
thinking about the past orworrying about the future.
It's a lot easier to to be mybest self and to be of service.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
I love that.
Thank you so much for sharingthat with the listeners who
released out reveal purpose.
It sounds like you are in yourdivine purpose, you are in it
now.
Does that feel good to hearthat?
Or do you think this is aseasonal purpose?
SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
No, I hope not.
It's like if I was a runner, canyou think I can just turn it off
for a whole season then get backand do the same thing?
I think that's I'm ratherfoolish.
For whatever we're choosing todo in our lives, it becomes a
part of who we are.
And we need to place that loveand intention and energy into
that, you know, every day, youknow, as much as we possibly
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can, you know, to be our bestselves.
It's and you the only way youcan evolve and grow is not to
turn off a switch, like anon-off switch.
That that just seems kind ofridiculous.
I mean, from my point of view.
But um, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
For some, yes, that would be ridiculous for some,
that would be the way theyoperate.
But uh, but I do appreciate yourtime here on the show.
It has been very jam-packed withwith tools and different ways,
different modalities that wediscussed and tips that you
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shared with anyone reallyencountering a major crossroads.
Because divorce is not an easycrossroads to journey through.
And and to do it twice and to doit successfully in that now
you're in a space that reallyfeels right to you.
And and most people can't saythat.
unknown (28:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
Yeah, some people are still in their first act
because they feel like that'swhere they have to be, where
people expect them to be.
And what I find so joyful aboutyour journey is that you have
been very true to yourself andtrue to your purpose.
And that's the whole purpose ofthis podcast is to showcase
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people like you that have goneout of very dark chapters and
stepped primely in their lightand are shining so brightly.
And I'm so happy for you.
I'm glad that you are workingwith who you're meant to work
with.
So uh do share with us who youwork with and how people can
(29:37):
contact you if they want to workwith you.
SPEAKER_00 (29:39):
So, my primary people that I work with are
professional, executive women,and also women business owners.
And so I do mentoring andcoaching.
Coaching is more like I'mpartnering with you, walking
alongside of you, helping yourealize your vision, your goals.
Mentoring is more like you'restanding on my shoulders, and I
might say, Let's let's work withyour inner coach today, because
(29:59):
if Clinic is really having agood time here.
And so I'm I'm more directiveand I might give you know
certain things for you to do.
And so that's what I primarilywork with.
And I'm also working to get outand speaking and uh doing
workshops uh about kind ofmerging the the coaching and
mentoring I do with uh theattorneys that I'm still
(30:21):
licensed, but I'm just notpracticing anymore.
And it's about negotiating fromthe heart and bringing more
confidence and clarity and calmassurance into your life because
we all negotiate every day witha lot of people.
And it's really important tofind a way to do it that that's
more love-based.
I love that.
But do you have a web page orhow do we find it?
(30:42):
Sorry, yes, I have jewelconsultancy, J-E-W-E-L, J E W E
L Consultancy.com.
Um, and also my full name isArlene, the middle name is Cohen
C O H E N Miller.
If you Google that, you'll findall the places in social media
I'm at.
And you can it actually has myphone number and my email
address on my website so thatyou can either text me.
(31:02):
That's the best way to get ahold of me or email me.
And there's all sorts of videosand a blog to help you with kind
of any aspect of your life, andthat's free.
SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
Wonderful.
I'm so happy you were on theshow.
Uh, any last minute things youwant to say to the to the
audience?
SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
Yeah, I have this trinity I like to work with.
It's called kindness, patience,and tolerance.
Of course, I didn't make thatup, but I guess what I'm
encouraging everyone to do isjust uh we can be really good
with being that for otherpeople.
As women, we want to be kind andpatient and tolerant with
ourselves.
You know, we're we're all worksin progress.
None of us here is perfect.
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We all make mistakes, so let'sgive ourselves a break and give
to our fill our own cups withlove so we can share the
overflow with everyone else.
SPEAKER_03 (31:50):
Amazing tips, amazing words from an amazing
woman.
SPEAKER_02 (31:54):
Arlene, thank you so much for joining us on Release
Doubt Reveal Purpose.
And for those listeners,remember Matthew 5.14, be the
light.
SPEAKER_03 (32:04):
Have a wonderful week.
Stay safe.
Love you all.
Bye now.
SPEAKER_01 (32:12):
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This is my friend.
SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
If you've ever struggled with fear, doubt, or
worry, and wondering what yourtrue purpose was all about, then
this podcast is for you.
In this show, your host, SylviaWarsham, will interview elite
experts and ordinary people thathave created extraordinary
lives.
So here's your host, SylviaWarsham.
SPEAKER_02 (00:29):
Hello, light bringers, it's Sylvia Warsham.
Welcome to Release Out with RealPurpose.
And today's Arlene Miller, andshe's out of Colorado, and I
know she has an amazing story oftransformation to share with us.
So without further ado, welcomeArlene.
Please share with us thatamazing story of transformation.
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
I don't know, those feel amazing to me because I
lived it and I lived through itall.
So when I was 15 years old, Idecided I wanted to become an
attorney.
And I did that.
I went to Emory University.
I went to University in KentuckyCollege of Law.
That's where I grew up inLouisville, Kentucky.
And so I became an attorney.
And I got married in my secondyear of law school and moved up
(01:14):
with my then husband up to asuburb of Cleveland.
And I passed the Kentucky bar,but I had to go past the Ohio
bar.
And I worked for a couple ofyears for a solo practitioner
and then decided that it justreally wasn't for me working for
other people.
And I really couldn't find a bigfirm to hire me.
And I really didn't know what Iwanted to do, so I went out on
(01:36):
my own.
And I started my own little solopractitioner office.
And about a month after I openedthe door, I was like in this
really cute little storefrontoffice.
It was not fancy at all.
I was with two other attorneys,the collect an employment
agency, and later a guy that umdid um help businesses collect
their debts.
So um I opened my little office.
(01:57):
It was before the age ofcomputers and all that kind of
stuff, hardly just for just theri really rudimentary that um
legal secretaries would do.
And I immediately found out thatI was pregnant.
And so all my family, all ofthem were in Kentucky, as well
as all the colleagues that Igraduated from law school with.
So I had no tribe.
And um I just learned how tobuild my own tribe and still um
(02:20):
build my business, which wasreally I mean, the first year I
was working part-time because itwas impossible.
I tried having him on a littleswing in my law firm.
That didn't work.
I found a lovely, lovelygrandmother who was taking care
of children in her home, allheart.
And uh so she was my godsend andshe took care of my son when I
(02:40):
was working.
And um, when she got ill, herdaughter was in her early 20s
and was like the nanny for therest of the time that I lived in
Ohio.
Um I sold my business um when hemine and we moved across country
to Longmont, Colorado, to that Icould buy into this law firm
that I was a part of until abouteight years ago.
(03:02):
And when I was um about the lastsix or seven years that I was
practicing law, I have someabsolutely amazing women
friends, and one had started herown coaching school.
She became a certified coach,but she just felt like the way
they taught was like way tooheady and not enough from the
heart.
And so she started her ownschool, and after three years,
(03:24):
she she said she kept on saying,You you this could really help
you, Arlene.
I'm like, nah, I'm good.
But you know what?
She was right.
You know, I really didn't know,it didn't teach me how to
listen, it didn't really teachme that kind of big heartfelt
coaching presence that you canuse for everything.
So I got my diploma in coachingand mentoring, and then I had a
(03:44):
friend who did the same thing asa counselor, and so I got a
diploma in transformationalholistic counseling from
Australia.
Um, I can't use it in the US,but it it helps me do what I do.
And I also, another one of myfriends um started doing this
certification for meditation, soI took that as well.
I thought, I'm a little bit of ahyper person, I can be a little
(04:05):
bit uh driven.
That would really help me in mypractice to uh to help people.
So I got all of that, and then Ireally just noticed that I I'd
been practicing law for over 30years, and I needed a change,
and I really wanted to helppeople in a new way, and that's
when I opened up my new businessduel consultancy for coaching
(04:26):
and mentoring and meditation andthings that can just really help
people to move forward.
Not that different from thepractice of law, but I get that
more hands-on approaches thatI'd like I call it a different
side of the jewel.
So that's this that's the shortstory.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
You know, it sounds like you have been very busy for
a long time, but I bet thatshift that occurred for you
occurred after something major,like a turning point.
What do you what do you thinkthat was for you?
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
What shifted?
Well, I had a lot of turningpoints in my life.
Um, I've been married anddivorced twice, and um both of
the men are lovely kind men.
It's just there's there was likeafter a while, there wasn't that
affinity that you needed to havefor a marriage.
And so I divorced my firsthusband when my son was like two
(05:18):
and a half.
Like I told him I wanted adivorce when he was two and a
half, and my son um sort ofdeveloped, you know, tendencies
for ADHD, and I didn't realizeat the time that it was a
carrier, that I had the samething, more of an ADD variety.
And I just knew that I needed tohelp him, you know, that I
needed to find a way that hecould interact with people in a
(05:40):
way that that was gonna work forhim.
And so as his mother, I lookedeverywhere, you know.
I looked to healers, I lookedeverywhere, um, naturopaths,
homeopaths, because I reallydidn't want to just stick him on
drugs right away.
Um, we ended up doing that laterbecause nothing else was
working.
Um but his path, my I I thoughtI was helping to heal him, but
(06:04):
that was helping to heal me.
You know, just to to try allthese different kinds of healing
modalities, meet all thesepeople that really were wanted
to be in service to otherpeople, help other people heal
in in non-traditional ways.
And it just sort of changed thetrajectory of my life.
And um, it was not easy, youknow, to be a mother of someone
(06:25):
that needed more attention.
But uh, much to my surprise, heturned into a really, really
lovely man.
Um, he's now um an amazingentrepreneur.
He works with um, he became achess champion in Colorado in
the 10th grade.
That became one of his passionsin addition to karate.
And so he teaches chess to kidsin before and after school
(06:49):
programs, runs chesstournaments, um, chess camps in
the summer.
But, you know, I had to learnalso as a part of that
transformational healing as amother, maybe some of you guys
will relate to this, that Ineeded to step back and I needed
to allow him to fail.
And that was not an easy thingto do, you know, as a mother,
(07:10):
just to say, you know, hey, I Ihave to allow my son to get
fired from a job or fall flat onhis face.
Um, so those were, I mean, therewas a lot of different
transitional points in my life.
It wasn't just one thing, it waslike a series of things, but
that's where it began, we beganwith him.
SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
I love that story because as you were talking, my
mind went back to the yearswhere I two divorced, and my
son, when I married my secondhusband, started showing signs
of ADHD, and he actually had thehyperactivity portion to it.
(07:49):
And like you, I dove intomodalities to help him.
And but initially, with hishyperactivity, it was getting
very disruptive at school, thatbecomes a real issue.
Um, and the school districtsaid, Well, we can do 504
planning, but it might help toput him on something.
(08:12):
And we unfortunately started themedication route, and it's
unfortunate because it turnedout that his was more anxiety
driven than it was ADHDprimarily.
And so what ended up happeningwas that the medication that
they put him on, the stimulant,actually made his anxiety worse.
(08:36):
And so that's where the um thefailure for me came in.
And I think, in part, like theguilt that kind of came with
that later, because I shouldhave known better.
But the truth was here's thetruth.
This is what the mind does.
The mind will tell you what afailure.
How could you not think of this?
(08:56):
But the truth of the matter was,I was following doctor's orders.
These guys are supposed to knowhow to guide patients in this
and not automatically put kidson medication.
I agree with you.
I think the medication route istoo fast of a solution.
And the meditation route, Itaught him meditation later when
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he was in high school because hehad to be taken off the
medication eventually when hisOCD got really bad.
And um, and he started havingsuicidal thoughts, which is what
some of these medications willpromote a lot of.
And certain kids, not all kidsget them, but in certain kids
they did.
(09:38):
And it scared us.
It scared my second husband andI so much that we said, no more.
We we went the supplement routeand we did nutritional route.
I mean, I went I dug intoeverything, but it's interesting
how you said that as you duginto more of the modalities, it
was really to help you as well.
(09:59):
My god, yes.
Um, because I found the same thesame thing to be true about
myself, because I was the onethat passed down the ADHD
portion.
And later, genetically, I did ablood work just recently and it
showed very low dopamine levels,and both my parents had passed
(10:22):
on that gene, and so the doctorexplained it's no wonder your
kids are suffering from ADD andthat you are as well, because
you're not biologically, you youwere kind of messed up.
So there's like no way that youcould have done it any other
way, but the way that you didit.
(10:43):
And I always think that Godplaces us to be the perfect mom
for our children.
We were the ones that that endup having the same things, and
and he knows us, he knows thatwe're gonna be research people
and we're gonna dive into thesethings, and we're gonna find the
solution for our kiddos, and inthe process, heal ourselves.
(11:05):
So I find your story veryenlightening, and I do have a
follow-up question for you, andthat is which route did you take
first?
Was it meditation that youstarted off with to find a
solution?
Or kind of got guide us on yourface with these issues.
(11:26):
How do you go about it?
SPEAKER_00 (11:29):
Well, I guess uh the way I mean I did a I tried a lot
of different healing modalitiesjust to learn how to do them to
see if I could do them on my onmy with my son.
And you know, I did findcounselors to work with him and
homeopaths and naturopaths, andwhen all that didn't work, we
did put him on the medicationand it did work.
Um I guess I there was somecounseling and stuff for myself
(11:50):
because I felt like a failure asa mother, you know, that my
child was having all theseproblems in school and all these
teachers were saying, put him ondrugs, put him on drugs, put him
on drugs.
And you know, having beeninvolved in the medical
profession with my firsthusband, a lot of the they don't
teach you nutrition in medicalschool.
They they you know, and now it'seven worse, you know, than when
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he was there.
That, you know, they're the drugcompanies, you know, basically
um pay for all this medicalstuff, but that's all that they
really learn, and I think that'sreally, really sad.
So I guess for myself, um theway I my path of self-healing
was more to find um like mytribe, my group of supportive
(12:32):
women.
And I also found that since I Ididn't know I had AD ADD.
I don't think I have ADHD.
Who could, who knows?
But I found that, you know, likeyoga, meditation, and in my
earlier years before my bodysaid no more.
I did a lot of running and a lotof racing.
And and that helped with theendorphins that I could just
chill out, be in my heart withmy son, be a better mother, be a
(12:56):
better attorney, um, just justby getting that relief.
So, you know, I guess the, youknow, and I always knew and I
always seemed to draw friends tomyself that were like my
teachers, that were reallyheart-based, and we could really
have these communications witheach other and support each
other.
That, you know, I ended up like,you know, building a tribe
(13:18):
around myself of really likeloving, caring, supportive women
from uh, you know, a bunch ofdifferent backgrounds.
And and that helped as well.
And so I didn't really know thatI was doing that at the time,
but looking back in hindsight,you know, I did learn all these
healing modalities.
Um, I do still know how to do abunch of them.
I that's really not my area offocus.
(13:39):
But I'm glad I did it because II ran into to and became friends
with a lot of women that theirwhole focus in life was to help
other people to heal in whateverway they could.
And, you know, I think that'sinvaluable.
SPEAKER_02 (13:53):
It is because it forms these collaborations that
if you can't fulfill the need ofa person you know who can.
Well, this person is, and that'swhat we were talking about prior
to the interview.
I I find it so interesting howyour tribe was all women, which
I think is amazing because Iknow I have felt a lot of
(14:15):
competition from other women inmy past, and it's led me to kind
of friend more men because theydon't kind of get pulled into
the drama uh and the competitionthat women kind of get pulled
into.
So you mentioned they're loving,they're caring, they're
supportive.
What other values did you lookfor in these women that can
(14:36):
maybe guide women out there?
SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
Yeah, and I just want to say that I agree with
you.
There's a lot of stuff in thegenetics, there's a lot of stuff
in the underlying culture that'sthat that trains women to be um
think the other woman is theenemy, like she's gonna take
away your man or or whatever itis that's going on.
Yeah, and it's really, really,really sad.
And I think that sometimes Ivisualize myself as a salmon
(15:01):
swimming upstream, choosing todo it differently, because I
think a lot of it comes from us.
You know, if you're if you'renot someone that wants to
compete with other women, andthat's not what you're about.
And I do have a lot of menfriends, I think they're
wonderful, just like you too.
But in those early days, um, Ijust had a there was a it's
really interesting.
I um and I I found her, I waspracticing law in Cleveland, and
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my ex-husband had my son on theweekends, and I just happened to
be in the office at seveno'clock at night, which never
ever happened.
And she called and had no moneyfor a divorce, really.
And she she wanted, she hadnever divorced her ex, who was
very, very abusive because shehad found the love of her life
and wanted to get remarried, andso did he.
And so um, she was just one ofthese kind of really, really
(15:48):
giving people, and I did herstuff, and she did some stuff
for me, and then we became likebest friends, and uh, we were
like the the main person to helpeach other in each other's
weddings when we got remarried,and she introduced me to some
like-minded women, so and we allI found different, we were in
like in different paths and finddifferent ways to help each
other, and so I feel it'spossible, but you have to really
(16:10):
have your sixth sense out thereto be like, you know, is this a
a woman that can come togetherand just be giving and caring
and not be in competition withme?
And I was lucky to find a few,but you know, and I really hope
that we can model that for otherwomen, it doesn't have to be
that way, and I think it'sreally sad that it is a, I don't
(16:31):
know, maybe a part of ourgenetics or a part of the way
it's been.
I don't know why, but it's nothelpful.
SPEAKER_02 (16:37):
You know, I think the modeling really helps
because when you're someone thatsupports them, that empowers
them, that can see their lightand say, you know what, you're
beautiful, and just be veryauthentic when you talk to them.
I think it gives them a senseof, hey, this woman is not out
here to compete with me.
She's out here to collaboratewith me.
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I was modeled that by my fatherand mother.
Both my both of them carriedthis confidence within
themselves that never competedwith another human being.
They only competed with theirpast self.
I saw that every day.
I like which is awesome becausethat's the way it's supposed to
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be.
Yeah.
We are supposed to be competingwith our past self, and we're
supposed to be striving to beour higher selves, to have a
higher level of consciousnessthat we didn't have yesterday.
unknown (17:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
That we're supposed to reflect and look at what how
could I have done this better?
I know that I'm loved, that I'mworthy of love, and this
challenge is showing up.
What am I meant to learn?
That's the higher level ofconsciousness that I seek when I
start to allow certain people toinfluence the way I'm thinking.
(18:02):
I I have very careful now.
I used to not be.
You know, when you're younger,you don't, you're very open and
everything's rose-coloredglasses.
And I remember my father used toalways tell me, Sylvia, be aware
that that is one of your entrypoints.
Don't allow just anybody tospeak into you and influence
(18:23):
you.
Be very aware of who you buildas your tribe, as your
environment, and those that arespeaking and influencing you.
And I find that that is a greattip to offer anyone, especially
during change, because in changeis when our emotions are running
(18:46):
really high, and we tend to makethese snap decisions that are
not in our best interest atsometimes.
unknown (18:55):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (18:56):
Do you agree with what you're sharing?
Yeah, I agree.
And what you're sharing, becauseyou were asking me for some
tips, is that what I share andwhat I teach is that mistakes
are opportunities to learn andgrow.
They're not an opportunity thatwe don't want to use them as an
opportunity to beat ourselvesup.
We made a mistake.
We're we're in this human body,so we're going to make lots of
mistakes.
So if if I had the samesituation or a similar situation
(19:20):
arise, how could I do itdifferently next time?
It's about more love, morelight, more beauty, whatever
beautiful qualities that youwant to be, and then just like
visualize yourself there.
You know, what would it looklike?
What would it sound like?
What would it be like?
Because when we do that, wedon't beat ourselves up for the
mistakes, but we use it as alike a loving opportunity to
(19:41):
grow and evolve and be more ofour best selves, then we're
we're creating that foundationthere for when something comes
up again and it will come upagain, because it's been like
maybe one of our furballs wherewe need to learn and evolve and
grow.
Um, so we have a foundationthere to do it differently next
time.
And we're never going to beperfect, but we can continue to
(20:02):
use that as a basis to learn andevolve and grow.
And another thing that I tellpeople is that you know,
practice makes permanent.
You know, I was a runner foryears.
I never could like, I didn'tjust run around the block once
and go run a half marathon.
I trained like crazy because Iloved it.
And so it's the same thing ifwe're learning new ways of being
that are more about love, thatare more about self-care and
(20:24):
loving and caring for others.
SPEAKER_02 (20:33):
I so agree with you, and I love what you said.
Practice makes permanent.
The first time I heard that wasfrom JP Morgan, Dr.
J.P.
Morland, he came to our churchyears ago to talk about anxiety,
generalized anxiety disorder.
And he said, in order to createnew neural pathways in the
(20:56):
brain, you've got to practice,practice, practice because it
makes it permanent.
And I find that that is so, sotrue, especially in the
modalities that we were talkingabout earlier in meditation,
which I find it admission.
I don't know about you, but asan ADD person, it was tough for
(21:20):
me to sit still.
unknown (21:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:23):
How was it for you?
SPEAKER_00 (21:24):
How did you master it?
But for years, um, there wasthis really, I mean, I I'm
always open to stuff, and therewas this um monk called Tik
Nathan who came to Boulder,Colorado.
They put it in like this big,huge Boulder Auditorium.
6,000 people came, and he didsomething that sort of opened up
my life.
It's like he led it, and allthese monks went behind him, and
it was a walking meditation.
(21:46):
And of course, Colorado'sgorgeous.
And so, like, and for me to slowdown and walk slowly and
appreciate nature, I'm like, ohmy god, I can meditate like
this.
So the first way that I learnedmeditation was I can just go out
on a path or wherever it is,enjoy the beauty of mother
nature, slow down my breathbreathing, not be in a place
(22:08):
where I'm power walking, andreally appreciate it.
Because what we're doing iswe're bringing in gratitude and
appreciation and a love of thebeauty around us.
And that is one way that you canbegin to meditate so you can
just chill out.
And what I what I do with mymeditation is I get up early.
I like set my alarm for 5 15 ifI don't get up on by 5.25 at
(22:31):
least, so I can brush my teeth,use the toilet, sit down.
Why it's very, very quiet in theworld then, and that's my
meditation time because I'm notquite 100% awake, but I can
really just be in that, okay,this is it.
This is where I've set asidethis time to be more love and to
feel things and and just sloweverything down and be with
(22:51):
myself and um love or however Icall it the universe or spirit,
you know, you call it God, it'sall the same thing, right?
We were talking about that, andthat's how I got into it.
But um, that introduction wasreally an eye-opener for me
because I'm like, I thought youhad to sit there and go, um, or
something.
You know, I was like reallyignorant.
I didn't realize there were somany different ways that you
(23:12):
could meditate to really justcome back into your own heart's
knowing.
SPEAKER_03 (23:18):
I couldn't agree with you more.
SPEAKER_02 (23:20):
I think there's so many ways that we can meditate,
and it just needs to speak toyour soul for it to feel right.
I remember as you were talking,the first time I tried to teach
my 83-year-old mother tomeditate.
She's like, Well, what am Isupposed to do?
Because she was wanting to feelthe peace I was feeling inside,
(23:45):
because she said, You havechanged so dramatically from the
girl I raised.
You were such a gung-ho type A,always on the go, always
striving, always doing, notbeing.
And I think that peace rightthere, the not being, is the
challenge, truly is theopportunity that God is granting
(24:10):
us to slow down and to say,there's different ways we can do
this.
But I sat her down and I said,Mom, there's lots of apps you
can use.
There's this app right here, andI turned it on and I said, I
just want you to visualize beingthere.
So in your mind, just close youreyes and just whatever the
(24:31):
meditation's telling you, that'skind of what you're doing
initially, if that works foryou.
But I love that you run out ofnature because in nature,
there's it's hard to ignore it.
It is so beautiful outside,especially Denver.
You're right.
You're walking, there's yougotta look down and be very
(24:54):
intentional where you stepsometimes in Colorado.
And so walking slowly would be aperfect way to introduce
meditation into your life.
I do that now in the morningsand afternoons when I take my
small dog out for a walk.
(25:14):
And I don't, the only reason Ibring my phone is if we get into
a jam, but I put it up.
I don't even have earphone, likenothing on.
I'm just listening to the birdsand nature as I'm walking him,
and I'm just truly enjoyingbeing in nature, and I'm saying
that very specifically because Icould say, well, I'm doing this,
(25:37):
I'm walking the dog.
Well, that kind of takes me outof that space of meditation, and
that connection to nature isvery, very powerful.
I find that when I'm outside,downloads start to come very
easily.
Does that work for you too?
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
Sometimes I just um because I get downloads like
different places, you know,someone will say something like,
oh my god, I gotta write allthis down right now.
Um, and I find there's certaintimes of the day that things
will just flow through if I ifI'm like writing a course or
doing something.
But there's something, and Ithink society's gotten away from
it.
Um so I'm gonna emphasize whatyou said, because to me, it's
(26:19):
like Mother Nature is likedivine love, and and that she
just feels so beautiful, andit's like she's uh an energy and
it's all around you.
And when you get away from yourcell phones and get away from
your computers and you're justout there appreciating it, it
can just open your heart with somuch gratitude and appreciation
that we have this ability to getout there and and appreciate,
(26:44):
you know, so much.
And I just I can just sometimesjust feel so loved when I'm out
there, you know, because you'reright, there's the birds,
there's the trees.
For us, we can't always see themountains.
And um it's just it's just likeyou described, it's it's just
such a great place to torecalibrate for me in my heart,
and to also feel really, reallygrounded and fully present in my
(27:06):
body because I find that if I'mfully present here now, I'm not
thinking about the past orworrying about the future.
It's a lot easier to to be mybest self and to be of service.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
I love that.
Thank you so much for sharingthat with the listeners who
released out reveal purpose.
It sounds like you are in yourdivine purpose, you are in it
now.
Does that feel good to hearthat?
Or do you think this is aseasonal purpose?
SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
No, I hope not.
It's like if I was a runner, canyou think I can just turn it off
for a whole season then get backand do the same thing?
I think that's I'm ratherfoolish.
For whatever we're choosing todo in our lives, it becomes a
part of who we are.
And we need to place that loveand intention and energy into
that, you know, every day, youknow, as much as we possibly
(27:58):
can, you know, to be our bestselves.
It's and you the only way youcan evolve and grow is not to
turn off a switch, like anon-off switch.
That that just seems kind ofridiculous.
I mean, from my point of view.
But um, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
For some, yes, that would be ridiculous for some,
that would be the way theyoperate.
But uh, but I do appreciate yourtime here on the show.
It has been very jam-packed withwith tools and different ways,
different modalities that wediscussed and tips that you
(28:31):
shared with anyone reallyencountering a major crossroads.
Because divorce is not an easycrossroads to journey through.
And and to do it twice and to doit successfully in that now
you're in a space that reallyfeels right to you.
And and most people can't saythat.
unknown (28:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
Yeah, some people are still in their first act
because they feel like that'swhere they have to be, where
people expect them to be.
And what I find so joyful aboutyour journey is that you have
been very true to yourself andtrue to your purpose.
And that's the whole purpose ofthis podcast is to showcase
(29:16):
people like you that have goneout of very dark chapters and
stepped primely in their lightand are shining so brightly.
And I'm so happy for you.
I'm glad that you are workingwith who you're meant to work
with.
So uh do share with us who youwork with and how people can
(29:37):
contact you if they want to workwith you.
SPEAKER_00 (29:39):
So, my primary people that I work with are
professional, executive women,and also women business owners.
And so I do mentoring andcoaching.
Coaching is more like I'mpartnering with you, walking
alongside of you, helping yourealize your vision, your goals.
Mentoring is more like you'restanding on my shoulders, and I
might say, Let's let's work withyour inner coach today, because
(29:59):
if Clinic is really having agood time here.
And so I'm I'm more directiveand I might give you know
certain things for you to do.
And so that's what I primarilywork with.
And I'm also working to get outand speaking and uh doing
workshops uh about kind ofmerging the the coaching and
mentoring I do with uh theattorneys that I'm still
(30:21):
licensed, but I'm just notpracticing anymore.
And it's about negotiating fromthe heart and bringing more
confidence and clarity and calmassurance into your life because
we all negotiate every day witha lot of people.
And it's really important tofind a way to do it that that's
more love-based.
I love that.
But do you have a web page orhow do we find it?
(30:42):
Sorry, yes, I have jewelconsultancy, J-E-W-E-L, J E W E
L Consultancy.com.
Um, and also my full name isArlene, the middle name is Cohen
C O H E N Miller.
If you Google that, you'll findall the places in social media
I'm at.
And you can it actually has myphone number and my email
address on my website so thatyou can either text me.
(31:02):
That's the best way to get ahold of me or email me.
And there's all sorts of videosand a blog to help you with kind
of any aspect of your life, andthat's free.
SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
Wonderful.
I'm so happy you were on theshow.
Uh, any last minute things youwant to say to the to the
audience?
SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
Yeah, I have this trinity I like to work with.
It's called kindness, patience,and tolerance.
Of course, I didn't make thatup, but I guess what I'm
encouraging everyone to do isjust uh we can be really good
with being that for otherpeople.
As women, we want to be kind andpatient and tolerant with
ourselves.
You know, we're we're all worksin progress.
None of us here is perfect.
(31:41):
We all make mistakes, so let'sgive ourselves a break and give
to our fill our own cups withlove so we can share the
overflow with everyone else.
SPEAKER_03 (31:50):
Amazing tips, amazing words from an amazing
woman.
SPEAKER_02 (31:54):
Arlene, thank you so much for joining us on Release
Doubt Reveal Purpose.
And for those listeners,remember Matthew 5.14, be the
light.
SPEAKER_03 (32:04):
Have a wonderful week.
Stay safe.
Love you all.
Bye now.
SPEAKER_01 (32:12):
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