We explore how a 70-day hospital journey, a near-death encounter, and a “stadium of light” experience reframed our approach to surrender, discernment, and purpose.
Holly Porter joins us to share how seventy days in critical care, two intubations, and a chorus of unseen prayers sparked a profound pivot from doing to being. Her story moves from out-of-body moments to a near-death encounter she calls the “stadium of light,” where music felt known, a life review showed only the good, and two clear instructions reframed everything: build a nonprofit called Adventure Bucket Wish and avoid a flashy partnership that would have sped things up for the wrong reasons.
• SHiFT framework grounded in surrender, hope, intuition, faith, transformation
• Out-of-body and near-death experiences shaping purpose
• Life review focused on the good and its lesson
• Guarding your light and choosing faith over fear
• Symbols, promptings, and practical discernment
• Love them where they are as a daily practice
• From doing to being and receiving help
• Nonprofit vision and avoiding misaligned partnerships
• Prayer chains, community support, and humility
Head on over to Amazon to purchase Holly's newly released book, Near Death Shift: What Dying Taught Me about Life, Business, and Purpose, detailing her harrowing ordeal of being hospitalized for seventy days and the how the near death shift guided her to reframe everything. Purchase it here: https://amzn.to/43leKjy
To download a free chapter of host Sylvia Worsham's bestselling book, In Faith, I Thrive: Finding Joy Through God's Masterplan, purchase any of her products, or book a call with her, visit her website at www.sylviaworsham.com
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SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
If you've ever struggled with fear, doubt, or
worry, and wondering what yourtrue purpose was all about, then
this podcast is for you.
In this show, your host, SylviaWarsham, will interview elite
experts and ordinary people thathave created extraordinary
lives.
So here's your host, SylviaWarsham.
SPEAKER_04 (00:29):
Hey all bringers, it's Sylvia Warsham.
Welcome to Released Out ReviewPurpose.
And today's Holly Porter.
Does she have a story oftransformation to share with
you?
Let me just put it to you thisway.
As I read her story, I've hadthe presence of the Holy Spirit
from head to toe.
Um I felt it.
I knew this was spirit-led.
(00:51):
This this collaboration is hisdoing.
It's not Holly's or my doing.
What we have to say to you inthis interview will be centered
on him and his glory inadvancing what he needs you guys
to understand.
She was someone who spent 70days in a hospital bed.
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70 during 2021.
She had been intubated twice,she had sepsis.
The doctors didn't think she wasgoing to survive.
And in those 70 days, she had aspiritual transformative
awakening.
And that is not something that Isay lightly, when you start
seeing visions and you startseeing that the Holy Spirit is
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speaking to you, and He'sshowing you who you are meant to
be and what your need to do fromthis point on, that is extremely
powerful.
And it's not something that mostof us go through.
But the few, the chosen few thatare in this realm are people
that have a message to sharewith the world, and her message
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is loud and clear that we arehere to serve humanity with our
gifts and to meet people exactlywhere they're at and to love
them as much as we can, just aswe receive love from God, our
Father, we are to give that loveto our brothers and sisters in
this world.
So without further ado, Holly,thank you so much for joining us
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on the least outreal purpose.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
Well, thanks for having me, Sylvia.
I feel like with thatintroduction, we could be done.
You just said so much in thosewords.
That was so powerful.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_04 (02:31):
You can thank the boss because those were his
words.
I am simply his vehicle.
And as I was speaking, I againthe confirmation of the Holy
Spirit from head to two, it'sextremely powerful when he shows
up in interviews.
And so, Holly, I know you havean amazing story to share.
So let's just dive deep into it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:52):
Yeah, and feel free to ask me any questions along
the way because sometimes I getinto talking and there might be
a detail that you think needsclarification.
So yeah, please do that.
Um, well, I was uh gosh, wheredo I start?
I mean, my my really my shift,uh as I would call it, which is
my whole framework now aroundwhat I help people with, which
(03:14):
is surrender, um, hope,intuition, faith, and
transformation.
So that's what my shift standsfor.
And it's interesting how thingscan happen to us in the past
that we don't understand whywe're going through.
And later you're like, ah, ah,that's why I figured that out.
(03:35):
And I would say for the last 10years, so would have been about
six before this, because mywhole experience was about four
years ago.
Right now, I was in the hospitalright now, four years ago.
And I think um it just coming tolight, and I was told later,
actually in a hypnosis sessionfor my whole experience, that
more would be revealed to mewhen the time is right.
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And normally that would make mecrazy.
I want to know everything now,and I'm just that now girl.
And I was at such peace withthat.
I thought, all right, becausereally, if you think about it,
when you get these kinds ofexperience, if you were to be
blasted with all of thosememories and all of those
processes and everything thatyou were going through along
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that the way, it's overwhelming.
I mean, it's reallyoverwhelming.
And so uh I feel really blessed.
Um, I went, I mean, foreverything that I have been
through, it hasn't been easy.
And I was told that, you know,that it would take me longer,
and and it has.
So I was given a lot of specificmessages.
(04:37):
Um, going back when to thebeginning, I was always super
busy.
I've always had three or fourcompanies at a time.
So we've had like 11 startupcompanies, not counting like the
little ones I helped my kidsstart, whatever.
And so we always had stuff.
It was just busy, busy, busy.
And I believe God had to make meget sick so that I would sit
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still and actually listen to hismessage because of the busy.
And what better way to do thatthan put you in the hospital for
70 days?
I was in a coma many days,sometimes paralyzed, sometimes
not.
Um, I got COVID at a conferenceand fought it at home for about
a week before I knewintuitively.
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I had a lot of intuitive giftsbefore.
I mean, really, we all do.
We just need to listen.
But I had those um before, and Iknew I I was dying.
And my husband somehow I gotgave it to him.
We were living in a little tinyfifth will, waiting for our
house to close, and we justthought that'd be a fun
adventure.
(05:41):
Boy, was it.
And my husband lived there a lotlonger than I did because he
never got sick enough to get inthe hospital, but he was on
oxygen, had blood clots.
Uh, we ended up with the Deltaversion, which I believe is
still far worse than any otheruh variant of that kind.
I was always super healthy, so Inever thought I just never got
sick.
So I didn't even think I'd getit.
(06:02):
So when my sister said, Have youtested?
I'm like, no.
But I I've never been that sickin my whole life.
So I get in there, somehow myhusband got us driven there
safely.
Can't believe that.
Um, we were so concerned aboutgiving to anybody because we
knew how sick we were.
So we were really cautious aboutthat.
People were leaving just foodoutside on our steps, and I
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don't remember eating anything.
I don't even remember anythingfor that whole week because I
was sick.
Um so the day I got in there wasthat first day.
Um, so I had 69 days in thehospital, was home for about 12
hours, and then had oxygenissues and had to go for my 70th
day.
Begged him not to keep me.
I just ended up staying in theER for most of that day.
(06:45):
Um, but while I was in thehospital, I was in two different
hospitals um in the ICU for ohabout four weeks the first one,
and two the second one, and thenabout three in med search.
Um, and for someone you knowthat never been sick, they
really hadn't dealt with thehospital and things.
I mean, when I've had loved onespassed, it's been in tragedies
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or at home, things like that.
So I just really hadn't dealtwith that experience.
Um so there are three things Ijust want to share.
There are out-of-bodyexperiences, there is spiritual
transformative experiences, andthen there's near-death
experiences.
And I had a whole bunch ofout-of-body.
I I went all back in time mostof the time.
(07:28):
I have some really creepystories, some fun stories, some
scary stories, uh, some funnystories.
Um but then my spiritual one, Ithought that was another
near-death experience, which Iwould say you could classify it
was still, I was still pretty,pretty sick.
Um, that was really the the talkwith God, where it was kind of
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that defining moment.
Um, so and then the near-death.
Um, so the spiritual actuallywas last because that's when I
knew I would live.
And um it changed everything.
I was given some specificinstructions, I was seeing a lot
of symbolism of things.
Um, even later, even now, I getI get things in symbols, and I
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know exactly what they mean.
That's what's kind of cool aboutit, is like, oh, okay, I got
that.
Or something from my past willshow up.
Oh, that's what that was for.
Um, yeah, I created, I created,uh, I called it eight means to
close the gap to prosperity.
That was a program I wascreating for a um uh prosperity
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event that I used to do live,and we would have it in Las
Vegas every six months, and Iwas I never finished the
program.
Um, and it was so crazy becauseI ran across my my card that had
the eight means, you know, ofkind of like a life will, but an
eight was my prosperity, whichis the infinity sign.
And I saw that one day, and Iwent, oh my gosh, it was like it
(08:56):
opened up the whole frameworkfor my shift framework for the
book, and I went, Wow, okay,that's why I didn't create that
because it's for now.
Anyway, so that was kind of alike overview.
You now, what would you like toknow about any of those?
And I'm happy to share theconversation with him.
I'm curious about that.
What did he show you?
(09:17):
Okay, well, I'll tell you aboutthe spiritual one because to me,
that honestly, when you when youget told you're gonna live,
that's that's pretty prettyamazing, and that's a fast
story.
So my cousin had sent a text tomy sisters.
So my husband's my husband, bythe way, couldn't come to the
hospital and see me for threeand a half weeks because he had
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COVID, they wouldn't let him in.
Luckily, when I was there, Icould have one person every 24
hours.
So I have a huge family, but Ihave two twin sisters just under
me, about 17 months, and theyjust kicked in high gear and
they stayed with me.
Early on, they realized I I theyneeded to be there all the time.
Um, it's it's interesting that II know I needed them, I know
(10:00):
they saved my life by beingthere.
So there, one of them was withme at this particular text when
it came through, and I wasn'tdoing very well.
And she said, I wouldn'tnormally share a spiritual
experience on a text.
My cousin lived in Arizona, welive in Utah, but I know Holly's
not doing well.
Will you just read this to her?
And so I remember hearing it.
(10:21):
Um, the gist of it was she waspraying for my husband and I for
our well-being, and gotsurrounded by all these um
family member spirits and askedwho each of them were, and just
basically was sharing that loveand support that we had from the
other side.
And um, I remember all thatthat's so sweet was my first
(10:42):
kind of thought.
Well, I must have taken a turnagain, and they put me back in a
uh induced coma.
And I remember laying there, andat this point, I was about three
and a half weeks in to thehospital, and I so it was just
it had happened just before myhusband got to come see me the
first time, by the way.
And I remember laying therepraying.
(11:04):
At this point, my prayers werechanging.
I was like, you know, thisreally sucks, and you're not
gonna get me better.
I'm suffering.
You know, let's just get me outof here.
You know, I was kind of likejust that chat, like I'm I'm in
it for either way.
I was never afraid to die.
Or I was like, I'm kind of donefighting, so you know, let's
just be done with this.
And then I also was prettyticked off all of a sudden.
(11:26):
I remember my redheaded selfjust saying, Um, this isn't
fair.
Why did Tracy, which was mycousin, why did she get that
experience?
I'm the one here laying heresuffering, and and why didn't I
get that experience?
And you know, what usuallyhappens to us when we're a kid,
a child, I mean, I was actinglike a little brat who usually
comes and puts us in checks,mama, right?
(11:48):
Well, my mama passed away about18 months or so before this, and
she had been with me a lot on myright side.
She always would come, but shehad never spoken with me, but I
knew she was there many, manydays.
And this time she came to myright side, and she I and she
spoke to me, and she said, It'snot your time.
(12:09):
She says, You need to fight.
And when she said the wordfight, I had a brother that had
passed away quite a few yearsbefore, but in a really bad car
wreck, left four childrenbecause his wife also had passed
away for um the year and a halfbefore him in a bad car wreck.
So he came and kind of like puthis hand on her shoulder, just
like we're here, you know, we'rewe're supporting you.
(12:31):
And as soon as she said thoughthat word fight, all in front of
my bed, so I'm laying in my bedand all above my bed came all of
these, you know, passed onancestors, and they started
chanting, fight, fight, fight.
And every time they would saythat word, a whole new row would
(12:52):
come behind them.
So in white was all the peoplethat passed on, and I knew that
very clearly.
Plus, I recognized them, youknow, as my favorite aunt and
grandparents, and I mean peopleI love, and they all looked they
all looked young.
Like it was really cool.
Like they just I knew who theywere.
I had a grandbaby that hadpassed away five months before I
got in the hospital, um, twodays old.
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She was an adult, but I knew itwas her.
So she was part of that.
But then the people behind themthat would come were in street
clothes now, so I knew they wereliving people, and of course I
recognized my husband and thechildren and and my siblings and
then friends.
And then as they just keptchanting it, more and more and
more-I mean, I would saythousands, thousands of people,
(13:36):
and it was like just that signwhere it's like, got it, I I
need to fight.
Okay, I'm gonna live, and that'sthe defining moment.
You're gonna live, you're toldyou need to fight, all right.
And later I realized that all ofthose people I didn't know
showing me that support, howmeant I believe they were all
the prayer chains that I was onbecause we were still kind of
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shut down, and I, you know, Iwas a speaker, so I had friends
all over the world, and theywere hanging on to the posts my
sisters would put on socialmedia because that was the only
way they knew if I was living ornot.
And I believe all those allthose prayer chains were just
all that all that support.
So it was just amazing to knowhere and beyond how much love
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and support there is for us.
And I think when we have baddays, I mean I just think of
that, I just visualize that thatmoment when it's like I had I
had not only loved ones, but Ihad strangers that really had my
back and that wanted me to behere and that needed me.
And anyway, so that was thatmoment.
SPEAKER_03 (14:39):
The reason why I'm getting very emotional is not
last night, the previous night,I could not sleep.
SPEAKER_04 (14:49):
And I'm not sure why.
Because I had played in atournament and I was exhausted
and I should have been able tosleep, and I just I couldn't.
God had me, I was awake and Iwas watching Heaven is for real
the the movie.
And I started to get visionsfrom God and I started to block
(15:10):
I mean like completely lost it,and I saw people on their knees
praying for me when I was in thehospital, and and he was
reminding me that the power ofprayer is there is no more that
that is powerful in thespiritual realm.
(15:32):
Um, he hears our prayers, he'swith us, and I just it's a
confirmation to me.
What you're saying to me is isalso he's using you as a
messenger to me right now, inthat he's confirming and
affirming you were right tothink what you thought in the
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middle of the night, you know.
This is this is his messagebeing revealed.
Um, you and I have learned howto really discern when he is
speaking to us.
Can you speak a little bit moreabout your process of
discernment and what God toldyou directly?
(16:14):
We've we've heard about how whathe showed you through the vision
of the fight, which is sopowerful.
What did he tell you?
What did he reveal to you?
SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
Yeah.
I for me, I always feel like Ihad discernment.
I mean, discernment, intuition,I mean, there's lots of words to
explain all that.
Um, in fact, I remember having ablessing years ago, and it
talked about that I had that,that I had that intuition and
that power of discernment, andthat I needed to listen to it.
So it's interesting you askedthat question.
(16:45):
No one's ever asked that before.
Good question.
Um I think, I mean, for me, I'mgonna bump into the near-death
experience because that kind ofI feel like puts it, wraps it up
into there.
So as I'm I traveled in my bedeverywhere, like am I out of
body?
I took my bed with me.
Sometimes I took my whole roomwith me.
I have a whole thing to explainthat, but it's too long for the
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show.
You can go go check out my neardeath podcast that I'm on, it
explains all that.
But I think I just I always knewthat if I didn't take my bed
with me, that I might not comeback.
I'm I want that.
You know, I want my body, and ifI get separated, I might not
that I'm so obviously I wantedto be here.
Um, even while I was going to mynear-death experience, I was
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being carried in my bed down thehospital hallway, and I leaned
up to the nurses station andstarted shaking my finger.
I rescind my DNR, I rescind myDNR, which is do not
resuscitate.
So obviously I knew I was introuble.
And um when I got to the I callit the stadium of light.
So there's lots of details,there's lots of things that
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happened along the way, but umthe stadium of light, it's
interesting because I've had alot of other people that study
near desk tell me people havetalked about the stadium.
I don't know what else to callit than that.
So picture a football stadium,but way bigger.
Um, and I just remember thelights were so bright because I
this my senses were so on, whichis interesting because my body
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in my hospital bed, I had lostall senses one way or another.
And so to have them soheightened, but to see this
brightness of light and uh beable to see through it, it's
really hard to explain becauseit was so bright you wouldn't
even think you'd be able to openyour eyes, it was so bright.
But I could see, and uh the fadthe stadium was filled with you
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know hundreds and thousands ofpeople, and uh I could see them,
but I I also could see feet, soI knew none of them were on the
ground, and then it just thecommunication, like it was so
fast, it was definitely,definitely um telepathic.
Um, but like I remember you lookat someone, and if you even had
a thought before you eventhought could get done thinking
(19:00):
about it, I mean you alreadyknew it was just like uh I I it
just crazy, crazy.
Um I was shown a live review.
Well, at first then I I say Iattended a concert because it
was like music from all foursounds and just so angelic.
And I think I used to say uhwhen I would explain it that I
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didn't ever hear those songsbefore, but I knew the words to
every song, which could havebeen part of the telepathic
stuff, I don't know.
But I just remember I love tosing and so I'm joining in, and
it was just so I could Ireferred to it as the best
concert that I'd ever been to,you know, till I started putting
the pieces together after I Ilater um but in my live review I
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was I was told some specificthings to do, and that is where
this kind of i it affects nowtoo.
Um I was told first of all, Ionly saw good in my life review,
and um I remember thinking,where's the bad?
I just remember that thought wasthere, but I didn't get that
answer then, so I must have likenot quite finished that thought,
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and I didn't have that answer atthat time.
Um later I did a hypnosissession about it and and it was
revealed so much more, which wasalmost as good.
Um but God told me later, by theway, that I I said, Where's the
where's the bad?
And God said, I'm showing youthe good because that's what
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matters.
And I thought, wow, what a godof love.
Of course that's what matters.
I mean, I don't want to treatpeople bad, but that's what
matters.
But one thing I did learn aboutthe bad is that we, you and I
and everybody else, are going tohave to endure the pain that we
cause somebody else.
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We will have to feel that pain.
And at the time I was sharedthat broke my heart because I
had two years of total andcomplete hell after this
experience.
And with every relationshipalmost, my my husband, a few
friends, I mean, everything wasjeopardized.
And the pain I felt, I wished Iwould have died every day.
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And and I think that was God'sway of healing my heart, you
know, letting me know I I wouldnever wish that on anybody what
I went through.
But I think it was just that wasjust part of what I had to know.
Um going back to the life reviewthere, I was told two things
before I was sent back.
And by the way, I was nevergiven the choice to come back.
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And honestly, when we havepeople that don't come back, I
think you should know they'rechoosing to stay.
There's a reason they'rechoosing to stay.
Maybe they don't get a choiceand they have to stay, or why
would anyone leave that place?
Like, I I I would have stayed.
I really think if I wouldn'thave been told what to do, I
would have stayed, no doubt.
(21:54):
Um so I was told two things.
I was told to go start anonprofit and I was given the
name Adventure Bucket Wish.
Okay, no other instructions thanthat, just that's that's just
what you need to do.
The second thing was um the dayI found out I had COVID, I had
pitched a company that I was soexcited to partner with on a new
venture called Retreat R.
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And I had the name, but itwasn't incorporated or anything,
but they had a billionairebacker, and I'm thinking,
awesome, this is gonna get thisout so fast, and I was so
excited.
I was told, do not partner withthat company you pitched too,
that that's not the highest andbest thing to do for it.
It will take you longer, butdon't do it.
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Which bummed me out a little, Ihave to say, because I was you
know really excited to do that.
So I came and then I and then Iwas back, and I was I was back
in my body, and just justunraveling all that and trying
to figure out all those things.
Um some of the symbols I sawwere later because okay, when I
came back, my sister um I had tocommunicate with an alphabet
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page that you'd have to point tobecause I was intubated, and it
would take a long time, longtime to come out with one word
sometimes.
I'd be so exhausted because Ihardly had any any strength.
And uh, but when I came out ofthe hospital, I started spelling
K I D.
And my sister says, Oh, do youwant me to tell your kids
(23:25):
something?
And she knew that wasn't it, andI kept going N A P and she said,
you know, you were doing better,you spelled kidnap.
I'm like ready to throw up inthe garbage can because I'm
like, what happened?
I ran an errand because I wasdoing better.
And what happened while I wasgone?
Why, why are you saying you werekidnapped?
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Anyway, right when Icommunicated that to her, the
doctor and the nurse walked into exhibit me for the first
time, and and and she said youcould talk, not very well, but
you had a lot to say.
And there were still spirits inmy room, and realized quickly as
she's opening doors and drawersand cupboards, you know, that no
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one's there, that I was the onlyone that could see them.
There must have been some kindof fear of some sort.
I why I felt kidnapped, I didnot know until later.
I I have figured some of thatout.
And it's interesting how Godgives us just those drips of
things, and maybe I'm not assmart as most, so I have to it
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takes me longer to process them.
I don't know.
But um, it took those two yearsof going through all that to
realize why I felt kidnapped,and even just this year, the
fourth year later, I just putsome pieces together, and um,
and it was kind of scary becauseI had an entity involved in in
all of it, and um it's just socrazy how the story continues,
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even though the experiencealready happened, my mind
doesn't remember everything.
And when I get anotherexperience and I learn
something, I just look at it assuch a blessing, and I'm so
grateful I got part, I feel likeit's the rest of the story, but
it's still unfolding.
And I knew immediately I I hadtwo books that I needed to
write, and I already had a wholebunch of books.
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Most of them, about half of whatI've done, have been like
compilations, just a chapter insomebody else's book.
But I I wasn't interested inreally writing any more books,
and I knew I had two.
I have one coming out in a weekthat's uh on this story and the
lessons from it, and I know theother one is about the
philanthropy work that's comingout of all of it, and so it's
just this story continues tounfold, and I love that.
SPEAKER_04 (25:37):
I just what is the name of the one coming out in in
a couple of days?
SPEAKER_02 (25:41):
Yeah, it's called Near Death Shift, What Dying
Taught Me About Life, Business,and Purpose.
SPEAKER_04 (25:47):
Wow.
And so the entity, can youreveal something about the
entity on the podcast?
Would you feel so um oh yeah,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
I I I totally, it's just such a long story.
Um, let me sum it up.
So, two years after by what Icall two years of hell, I was
not in a good place for thattime.
I cried every day, and I'm not acrier.
It was just like, why did yousave me to put me through this?
Like, I don't understand.
Why, you know, meanwhile, fourmonths later, I'm still super
sick.
All the long COVID symptoms camefor a year and a half.
(26:17):
I could hardly work.
Um, there was all this stuffgoing on, and I decided to have
I'm I'm certified for hypnosis,and so I know the process.
I called my coach and I said,Hey, would you do uh hypnosis
specifically on my near-deathexperience?
There's some gaps to it that Ifeel like I'm missing.
I have all the rest from theouter body, I know the spiritual
(26:39):
one, I know, but the near death,there's some gaps.
Sure.
So we do that, and so I'll justso that's where I didn't end up
in the stadium of light untilthe end.
So it was like I didn't rememberthis part of the story.
I went to this place called thein-between.
There was an entity there.
Um, he was able to talk to theentity, his name was Darby.
(27:00):
Um, he didn't have anyconnection to me that I know of
right now.
Um, but he wanted my light.
He can't have the light, hecouldn't go to the light.
So in the in-between, the darkwas on the right side, the light
was on the left side, and wewere just in this weird space,
and weird matter was floatingaround, weird colors that, you
know, just just weird.
(27:20):
Even though there was matterfloating around in the light, it
was like, you know, pink huesand yellow hues and white hues,
and this was like cobalt blueand silver and gray and black,
and you know, it was justtotally different.
Um, but they would all form thematter would all form hearts and
it would float to the light.
And I remember thinking, or tothe left, which was the light,
(27:41):
and I just remember thinking,even in the dark, we're
attracted to the light.
I just remember how all thesethoughts during this going on.
Um, Darby, anyway, he he, Ibelieve, was who why I felt
kidnapped.
He came when I was supervulnerable in my near-death
experience.
And I think when before I got tothe stadium of light, there was
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this long pause of what Iremembered.
I think this is where he took mewas the in-between.
The stadium of light was where Iended up after.
Um and of course that would makeme feel kidnapped.
And so that was a little hedidn't feel evil to me.
He he felt dark, but not likeevil.
I think he just literally waslike, if I can get somebody's
light, I'm gonna take it.
SPEAKER_04 (28:23):
You know, so yeah, it's the choices.
Like, yeah, what's coming to meas you're speaking is this is
where faith steps in.
When you believe and you trustthe Lord and you stay focused on
Him, some of these choices thatwill come at us that question
that light, that question thatfaith, you have to just put your
(28:47):
shield of faith forward so thatthe pharaohs of the evil one do
not penetrate you or your light.
You gotta guard your light andwith the sword of his word,
fight back, fight through thedarkness to get to the side of
light.
This is what has been like atheme that's been coming through
(29:09):
for me as well, because like Itold you, uh, only for two days
I was upset with him, but thenum I came back because I can't
be away from God or his lightfor many days.
I just I'm very attracted to hislight, and I've always the
message he's had for me as wellhas been you are a light
(29:32):
warrior, you gotta fight forthat light, you gotta fight, and
you gotta show others how tofight for that light, they will
have choices and thoughts thatare going to overwhelm them and
try to take them away from theirlight, and your role is to guide
them out of there because you'vebeen there yourself, and it
(29:54):
sounds like you've been in thatspace as well, and so now how
are you guiding?
People to their light when youfind that they've fallen trapped
into these spaces.
SPEAKER_02 (30:07):
Yeah.
Well, it's okay.
So I hear it takes 10 years tounravel everything I went
through for people, and Ithought, wow, that's too long
for me.
It's been four.
I I feel like things are stillunraveling about it.
Um, I know I'm on the righttrack.
I mean, I it has taken me longerwith things.
So I feel like just by example,it's it's showing, okay, this is
(30:28):
my story and this is what I did,then what am I doing?
It's like it's like get out ofthe doing and get in the being.
That makes sense.
And it's just sitting back andsaying, okay, today I feel like
crap.
Um, how how am I gonna get mystuff done?
Like it's that surrender we weretalking to about before the
(30:51):
show.
It really is just it'ssurrendering everything and just
saying, okay, this is beyond meand what I'm capable of.
I'm a strong person and I'llfight and I can do this, but can
I have some help?
And a lot of times, if you thinkabout it, we get so stubborn
sometimes about thinking we haveto be the ones to do everything,
(31:13):
and we don't.
There's I mean, I couldn't evenwipe my own butt in the
hospital.
Come on, I could do nothing formyself.
And so talk about fullsurrender.
I'm just saying sometimes youjust have when the shoe's on the
other foot, you're deprivingthat person of serving you if
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you're not surrendering andletting them serve you.
SPEAKER_04 (31:37):
The images have to come into my mind, and he's
hilarious because he knows whatI need to see in order for that
message to come through very,very clearly.
Don't you find that to be trueof yourself, Kolly?
Like he knows us so well becausehe created us.
So he knows what visions we needto see and what pain we need to
(31:58):
go through to finally learn thelesson we're meant to learn.
And that is one, surrender.
We are not in control.
And those that think we are incontrol, you don't want to go
through what Holly and I wentthrough to understand that
concept.
So take it from us that havebeen in those spaces of immense
(32:19):
pain, quit being so foolish.
And this is actually coming fromscripture, from one of like
Paul's letters, I think to theGalatians.
It's like, why are you beingfoolish and looking to your past
for your answers?
That's not where your answersare gonna come from.
Your answer is gonna come fromthe surrender piece to be to
(32:40):
accept that you've got amission, you've got a purpose
that you need to live out.
The whole gist of life isdiscovering that purpose and
then living it every single dayand surrendering to that purpose
every single day.
(33:00):
Because what we receive, it'snot based on what we're doing,
yeah.
It's based on a a creator thatloves us so much, that gives us.
It's out of that abundance thatwe receive that we give to
humanity.
We have all received gifts,we're all gifted.
Some of us don't know what thosegifts are because they're too
(33:22):
busy doing.
Yeah, so the big the big thinghere is quit doing.
The the achievements are notwhat makes us significant, and
the significance doesn't comefrom the outside world, it comes
from within, it comes from him.
He's the only one that can giveyou that significance.
That worth is already yours justfor being his kid.
(33:45):
You are his child, you're hiscreation, and you're here for a
very specific divine purposethat only you can fulfill.
No one else can do it, becausethat's how unique and special
you are to him, and that's thepiece that I didn't realize for
the longest time.
(34:05):
That that was recently thesignificance piece because to
me, I sought significance fromothers forever, Holly.
God, that was the hardest onefor me.
And he was like, I'm going tostrip you away of everything.
Like everything you've built,I'm gonna take away because you
don't, you don't, you're notlistening to me.
(34:27):
And so the vision that he gaveme right now as you were
speaking was my my 70-year-oldmother helping me walk to the
terminal because when mynear-death um shifts or my
spiritual awakening happened inHouston, Texas, I'm not from
Houston.
I flew there during Easterweekend, and that's when I had
(34:48):
my medical complication and mysecond chance at life.
So the three miracles and72-hour story that I have on my
website and in my book, In FaithI Thrive, Finding Joy Through
God's Master Plan.
That's my free chapter for thosethat want to read that.
Um, but the vision was allowothers to help you because
they're there to help you andsupport you.
(35:10):
God is sending them to you for areason.
You need to learn these lessonsnow.
Do not go through what we wentthrough.
That some of us don't make itout.
You know, like if you don'tlisten to his promptings and you
don't listen when he's speakingto you, you you you'll likely
die in some of these situationsbecause in my case, I listened
(35:34):
when he said lean forward andyou'll be able to breathe.
When I was jolted out of bed inthe middle of the night in a
hospital room, I had just flownfrom South Texas to Houston to
meet my boyfriend, who thenbecame my second husband.
But I had two pulmonaryembolisms that were passing
through my heart that were aboutto stop my heart.
Had I not listened to the HolySpirit's prompting to lean
(35:56):
forward to breathe and laid backdown, I likely would have died.
Wow, it's that simple.
And the doctors explained it tome.
The science was clear, like Iwould have died.
They were large, and I had nobusiness passing them and
living, is what the doctors, inessence, told me in the
hospital.
So to bring him back to theinterview, there's just be aware
(36:21):
of his promptings, have arelationship with him, invite
him in to your everyday.
So when we talk about surrender,then you're dying.
Only when you're dying.
Although that's how Holly and Ilearned the concept of
surrender, the first go-around.
Now I have to die to live, iswhat I say.
(36:42):
Trust us.
This is not fun to go throughthis because it it your body
gets humbled in such a wayphysically, emotionally,
spiritually, mentally.
It's it's it's quite thejourney.
Let trust us on this.
And it's not an easy journey.
So um, if you're one of us,learn from us directly.
SPEAKER_03 (37:07):
Don't put your hand on the stove to get burnt,
please.
SPEAKER_04 (37:10):
Yeah, so um lots, words of encouragement you think
God wants you to share with ustoday, holly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
Oh, I got the biggest.
Um one of my messages was that Igot I actually got later, the
two years later, was love andwhere they're at.
And that, if I would haveremembered from the beginning, I
wouldn't have gone through thosetwo years.
And I needed those lessons forthose two years for all the
(37:43):
philanthropy work I'm doing inthe future that I know has to
happen.
I had to see how horrible thissystem was, and I had to go
through and cry every day to seelove and where they're at takes
away that judgment.
And I know we all have somebodywho who really probably bothers
us.
Do you know?
(38:03):
That's probably the person youshould serve the most.
As hard as it is, that will takeyou out, that will bring you to
surrender faster than anything Iknow, and just love on them no
matter what.
Just love them no matter whatthey're doing, where how they're
living, it's not our place tojudge that.
So that's the message I wouldleave.
SPEAKER_04 (38:26):
Yeah, another vision came through clearly with those
words, and it's me on my kneesrecently.
And um and it got comes back to2023 when he showed me what
Satan was doing in my marriage,and why I just couldn't seem to
get out of this cycle in mymarriage.
(38:48):
And he said, I need you to inrecent months the the word
submission has been very presentin in me for my marriage, and I
have found a letter that a cardI had given my husband years ago
in 2017.
SPEAKER_03 (39:08):
And when I first read it, it I couldn't get
through it, Holly.
SPEAKER_04 (39:14):
It just it was too painful, and I remember hearing
a voice that said, keep it,don't burn it, because my
initial ego desire was to burnit.
I didn't want to deal with it, Ididn't want to be that person,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (39:30):
And God had other plans for me, so he said, just
keep it, it's gonna make senselater.
SPEAKER_04 (39:37):
And so I did, I kept it in my drawers, and then the
week before, this is inSeptember of this year, I had
gifted my husband for ourwedding anniversary for our
12th, a trip to Nashville,Tennessee, and we're in Texas,
we live in Austin, and um I wascleaning out doors, he was out
of town, and I was gonna confessto him how I had dishonored and
(40:00):
disrespected him throughout our12 years of marriage as a part
of um um the submission piece,and um that God had me on this
journey, right, to to kind ofreconcile me and bring me full
circle.
And that I was going to talk tohim that week, and then he got
(40:23):
an assignment.
He's a very he's got animportant role in this company,
he's um director of electricalengineering, but he's someone
that is so uniquely gifted, heis very intelligent, but beyond
like the intelligence, like Iwish I had that intelligence,
(40:43):
right?
kind of guy, and he solvedproblems for these big
companies, and so they werebringing him onto a project
because they were relying on himto solve this major problem.
And for the first time in mymarriage, I didn't run to tell
him what God had shown me.
I kept it to myself becausethat's what I felt I needed to
do, because I was loving, I wasputting him before my own needs,
(41:07):
like I was submitting to theLord first and his needs and his
timing, and in that week I wascleaning out drawers, and here
comes that letter.
And I opened it up and I readit, and everything came full
circle.
All those pieces suddenly madesense, and I remember like
(41:29):
dropping to my knees completelyhumble in full surrender and
begging God to forgive me forhurting his son with my words,
with my judgment, with mythoughts, even I had I had
(41:55):
dishonored and disrespected Godfirst through that, and I I I
owed him that because see inDecember of 2011, before my
medical journey, before Donniewas there with me, um I was
sitting having coffee next to myChristmas tree, and God said,
(42:20):
Donnie, here's your gift fromme.
So, and he showed himself to usin the ICU.
He he said, You're this is mywill for you guys to be married.
You need to stay in my will, andI need you to feel the pain you
(42:41):
put him through.
And when I read that letter andI understood the pain I put my
husband through, it all madesense.
So you sharing that story withme now is again, once again,
affirming why we go throughthese chapters is because it's
the only way we will understandour role in our relationships
(43:05):
with others and how we hurtother people and how we really
need to lead with love.
That love does not keep a recordof wrongs, it is not
self-seeking, it it rejoices inthe truth.
You don't want it's hard tohear, you know, and we're here
to meet and to love people theway that we have received love
(43:29):
from him, and it's with mercyand grace and kindness,
especially kindness.
So I I want to thank you, Holly,for your beautiful story and for
your beautiful light, becausewhat this world needs it, uh,
and for the listeners of releasethat reveal purpose, remember
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Matthew 5.14 to always be thelight.
SPEAKER_03 (43:55):
Be that beautiful light that you carry inside of
you.
SPEAKER_04 (44:01):
Step into it with all of your heart, with all of
your faith.
Stay focused on him, keep him infront and center in everything
you do, and you will you willhave the most beautiful life
despite the trials andtribulations that you face.
SPEAKER_03 (44:19):
Because you will feel love unlike any love you'll
feel here on earth.
I love you all.
Stay blessed.
Thank you, Holly, once again.
Have a beautiful week.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:29):
Hey all bringers, it's Sylvia Warsham.
Welcome to Released Out ReviewPurpose.
And today's Holly Porter.
Does she have a story oftransformation to share with
you?
Let me just put it to you thisway.
As I read her story, I've hadthe presence of the Holy Spirit
from head to toe.
Um I felt it.
I knew this was spirit-led.
(00:51):
This this collaboration is hisdoing.
It's not Holly's or my doing.
What we have to say to you inthis interview will be centered
on him and his glory inadvancing what he needs you guys
to understand.
She was someone who spent 70days in a hospital bed.
(01:14):
70 during 2021.
She had been intubated twice,she had sepsis.
The doctors didn't think she wasgoing to survive.
And in those 70 days, she had aspiritual transformative
awakening.
And that is not something that Isay lightly, when you start
seeing visions and you startseeing that the Holy Spirit is
(01:36):
speaking to you, and He'sshowing you who you are meant to
be and what your need to do fromthis point on, that is extremely
powerful.
And it's not something that mostof us go through.
But the few, the chosen few thatare in this realm are people
that have a message to sharewith the world, and her message
(01:57):
is loud and clear that we arehere to serve humanity with our
gifts and to meet people exactlywhere they're at and to love
them as much as we can, just aswe receive love from God, our
Father, we are to give that loveto our brothers and sisters in
this world.
So without further ado, Holly,thank you so much for joining us
(02:20):
on the least outreal purpose.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
Well, thanks for having me, Sylvia.
I feel like with thatintroduction, we could be done.
You just said so much in thosewords.
That was so powerful.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_04 (02:31):
You can thank the boss because those were his
words.
I am simply his vehicle.
And as I was speaking, I againthe confirmation of the Holy
Spirit from head to two, it'sextremely powerful when he shows
up in interviews.
And so, Holly, I know you havean amazing story to share.
So let's just dive deep into it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:52):
Yeah, and feel free to ask me any questions along
the way because sometimes I getinto talking and there might be
a detail that you think needsclarification.
So yeah, please do that.
Um, well, I was uh gosh, wheredo I start?
I mean, my my really my shift,uh as I would call it, which is
my whole framework now aroundwhat I help people with, which
(03:14):
is surrender, um, hope,intuition, faith, and
transformation.
So that's what my shift standsfor.
And it's interesting how thingscan happen to us in the past
that we don't understand whywe're going through.
And later you're like, ah, ah,that's why I figured that out.
(03:35):
And I would say for the last 10years, so would have been about
six before this, because mywhole experience was about four
years ago.
Right now, I was in the hospitalright now, four years ago.
And I think um it just coming tolight, and I was told later,
actually in a hypnosis sessionfor my whole experience, that
more would be revealed to mewhen the time is right.
(03:57):
And normally that would make mecrazy.
I want to know everything now,and I'm just that now girl.
And I was at such peace withthat.
I thought, all right, becausereally, if you think about it,
when you get these kinds ofexperience, if you were to be
blasted with all of thosememories and all of those
processes and everything thatyou were going through along
(04:17):
that the way, it's overwhelming.
I mean, it's reallyoverwhelming.
And so uh I feel really blessed.
Um, I went, I mean, foreverything that I have been
through, it hasn't been easy.
And I was told that, you know,that it would take me longer,
and and it has.
So I was given a lot of specificmessages.
(04:37):
Um, going back when to thebeginning, I was always super
busy.
I've always had three or fourcompanies at a time.
So we've had like 11 startupcompanies, not counting like the
little ones I helped my kidsstart, whatever.
And so we always had stuff.
It was just busy, busy, busy.
And I believe God had to make meget sick so that I would sit
(04:59):
still and actually listen to hismessage because of the busy.
And what better way to do thatthan put you in the hospital for
70 days?
I was in a coma many days,sometimes paralyzed, sometimes
not.
Um, I got COVID at a conferenceand fought it at home for about
a week before I knewintuitively.
(05:21):
I had a lot of intuitive giftsbefore.
I mean, really, we all do.
We just need to listen.
But I had those um before, and Iknew I I was dying.
And my husband somehow I gotgave it to him.
We were living in a little tinyfifth will, waiting for our
house to close, and we justthought that'd be a fun
adventure.
(05:41):
Boy, was it.
And my husband lived there a lotlonger than I did because he
never got sick enough to get inthe hospital, but he was on
oxygen, had blood clots.
Uh, we ended up with the Deltaversion, which I believe is
still far worse than any otheruh variant of that kind.
I was always super healthy, so Inever thought I just never got
sick.
So I didn't even think I'd getit.
(06:02):
So when my sister said, Have youtested?
I'm like, no.
But I I've never been that sickin my whole life.
So I get in there, somehow myhusband got us driven there
safely.
Can't believe that.
Um, we were so concerned aboutgiving to anybody because we
knew how sick we were.
So we were really cautious aboutthat.
People were leaving just foodoutside on our steps, and I
(06:24):
don't remember eating anything.
I don't even remember anythingfor that whole week because I
was sick.
Um so the day I got in there wasthat first day.
Um, so I had 69 days in thehospital, was home for about 12
hours, and then had oxygenissues and had to go for my 70th
day.
Begged him not to keep me.
I just ended up staying in theER for most of that day.
(06:45):
Um, but while I was in thehospital, I was in two different
hospitals um in the ICU for ohabout four weeks the first one,
and two the second one, and thenabout three in med search.
Um, and for someone you knowthat never been sick, they
really hadn't dealt with thehospital and things.
I mean, when I've had loved onespassed, it's been in tragedies
(07:07):
or at home, things like that.
So I just really hadn't dealtwith that experience.
Um so there are three things Ijust want to share.
There are out-of-bodyexperiences, there is spiritual
transformative experiences, andthen there's near-death
experiences.
And I had a whole bunch ofout-of-body.
I I went all back in time mostof the time.
(07:28):
I have some really creepystories, some fun stories, some
scary stories, uh, some funnystories.
Um but then my spiritual one, Ithought that was another
near-death experience, which Iwould say you could classify it
was still, I was still pretty,pretty sick.
Um, that was really the the talkwith God, where it was kind of
(07:49):
that defining moment.
Um, so and then the near-death.
Um, so the spiritual actuallywas last because that's when I
knew I would live.
And um it changed everything.
I was given some specificinstructions, I was seeing a lot
of symbolism of things.
Um, even later, even now, I getI get things in symbols, and I
(08:12):
know exactly what they mean.
That's what's kind of cool aboutit, is like, oh, okay, I got
that.
Or something from my past willshow up.
Oh, that's what that was for.
Um, yeah, I created, I created,uh, I called it eight means to
close the gap to prosperity.
That was a program I wascreating for a um uh prosperity
(08:33):
event that I used to do live,and we would have it in Las
Vegas every six months, and Iwas I never finished the
program.
Um, and it was so crazy becauseI ran across my my card that had
the eight means, you know, ofkind of like a life will, but an
eight was my prosperity, whichis the infinity sign.
And I saw that one day, and Iwent, oh my gosh, it was like it
(08:56):
opened up the whole frameworkfor my shift framework for the
book, and I went, Wow, okay,that's why I didn't create that
because it's for now.
Anyway, so that was kind of alike overview.
You now, what would you like toknow about any of those?
And I'm happy to share theconversation with him.
I'm curious about that.
What did he show you?
(09:17):
Okay, well, I'll tell you aboutthe spiritual one because to me,
that honestly, when you when youget told you're gonna live,
that's that's pretty prettyamazing, and that's a fast
story.
So my cousin had sent a text tomy sisters.
So my husband's my husband, bythe way, couldn't come to the
hospital and see me for threeand a half weeks because he had
(09:38):
COVID, they wouldn't let him in.
Luckily, when I was there, Icould have one person every 24
hours.
So I have a huge family, but Ihave two twin sisters just under
me, about 17 months, and theyjust kicked in high gear and
they stayed with me.
Early on, they realized I I theyneeded to be there all the time.
Um, it's it's interesting that II know I needed them, I know
(10:00):
they saved my life by beingthere.
So there, one of them was withme at this particular text when
it came through, and I wasn'tdoing very well.
And she said, I wouldn'tnormally share a spiritual
experience on a text.
My cousin lived in Arizona, welive in Utah, but I know Holly's
not doing well.
Will you just read this to her?
And so I remember hearing it.
(10:21):
Um, the gist of it was she waspraying for my husband and I for
our well-being, and gotsurrounded by all these um
family member spirits and askedwho each of them were, and just
basically was sharing that loveand support that we had from the
other side.
And um, I remember all thatthat's so sweet was my first
(10:42):
kind of thought.
Well, I must have taken a turnagain, and they put me back in a
uh induced coma.
And I remember laying there, andat this point, I was about three
and a half weeks in to thehospital, and I so it was just
it had happened just before myhusband got to come see me the
first time, by the way.
And I remember laying therepraying.
(11:04):
At this point, my prayers werechanging.
I was like, you know, thisreally sucks, and you're not
gonna get me better.
I'm suffering.
You know, let's just get me outof here.
You know, I was kind of likejust that chat, like I'm I'm in
it for either way.
I was never afraid to die.
Or I was like, I'm kind of donefighting, so you know, let's
just be done with this.
And then I also was prettyticked off all of a sudden.
(11:26):
I remember my redheaded selfjust saying, Um, this isn't
fair.
Why did Tracy, which was mycousin, why did she get that
experience?
I'm the one here laying heresuffering, and and why didn't I
get that experience?
And you know, what usuallyhappens to us when we're a kid,
a child, I mean, I was actinglike a little brat who usually
comes and puts us in checks,mama, right?
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Well, my mama passed away about18 months or so before this, and
she had been with me a lot on myright side.
She always would come, but shehad never spoken with me, but I
knew she was there many, manydays.
And this time she came to myright side, and she I and she
spoke to me, and she said, It'snot your time.
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She says, You need to fight.
And when she said the wordfight, I had a brother that had
passed away quite a few yearsbefore, but in a really bad car
wreck, left four childrenbecause his wife also had passed
away for um the year and a halfbefore him in a bad car wreck.
So he came and kind of like puthis hand on her shoulder, just
like we're here, you know, we'rewe're supporting you.
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And as soon as she said thoughthat word fight, all in front of
my bed, so I'm laying in my bedand all above my bed came all of
these, you know, passed onancestors, and they started
chanting, fight, fight, fight.
And every time they would saythat word, a whole new row would
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come behind them.
So in white was all the peoplethat passed on, and I knew that
very clearly.
Plus, I recognized them, youknow, as my favorite aunt and
grandparents, and I mean peopleI love, and they all looked they
all looked young.
Like it was really cool.
Like they just I knew who theywere.
I had a grandbaby that hadpassed away five months before I
got in the hospital, um, twodays old.
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She was an adult, but I knew itwas her.
So she was part of that.
But then the people behind themthat would come were in street
clothes now, so I knew they wereliving people, and of course I
recognized my husband and thechildren and and my siblings and
then friends.
And then as they just keptchanting it, more and more and
more-I mean, I would saythousands, thousands of people,
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and it was like just that signwhere it's like, got it, I I
need to fight.
Okay, I'm gonna live, and that'sthe defining moment.
You're gonna live, you're toldyou need to fight, all right.
And later I realized that all ofthose people I didn't know
showing me that support, howmeant I believe they were all
the prayer chains that I was onbecause we were still kind of
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shut down, and I, you know, Iwas a speaker, so I had friends
all over the world, and theywere hanging on to the posts my
sisters would put on socialmedia because that was the only
way they knew if I was living ornot.
And I believe all those allthose prayer chains were just
all that all that support.
So it was just amazing to knowhere and beyond how much love
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and support there is for us.
And I think when we have baddays, I mean I just think of
that, I just visualize that thatmoment when it's like I had I
had not only loved ones, but Ihad strangers that really had my
back and that wanted me to behere and that needed me.
And anyway, so that was thatmoment.
SPEAKER_03 (14:39):
The reason why I'm getting very emotional is not
last night, the previous night,I could not sleep.
SPEAKER_04 (14:49):
And I'm not sure why.
Because I had played in atournament and I was exhausted
and I should have been able tosleep, and I just I couldn't.
God had me, I was awake and Iwas watching Heaven is for real
the the movie.
And I started to get visionsfrom God and I started to block
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I mean like completely lost it,and I saw people on their knees
praying for me when I was in thehospital, and and he was
reminding me that the power ofprayer is there is no more that
that is powerful in thespiritual realm.
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Um, he hears our prayers, he'swith us, and I just it's a
confirmation to me.
What you're saying to me is isalso he's using you as a
messenger to me right now, inthat he's confirming and
affirming you were right tothink what you thought in the
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middle of the night, you know.
This is this is his messagebeing revealed.
Um, you and I have learned howto really discern when he is
speaking to us.
Can you speak a little bit moreabout your process of
discernment and what God toldyou directly?
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We've we've heard about how whathe showed you through the vision
of the fight, which is sopowerful.
What did he tell you?
What did he reveal to you?
SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
Yeah.
I for me, I always feel like Ihad discernment.
I mean, discernment, intuition,I mean, there's lots of words to
explain all that.
Um, in fact, I remember having ablessing years ago, and it
talked about that I had that,that I had that intuition and
that power of discernment, andthat I needed to listen to it.
So it's interesting you askedthat question.
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No one's ever asked that before.
Good question.
Um I think, I mean, for me, I'mgonna bump into the near-death
experience because that kind ofI feel like puts it, wraps it up
into there.
So as I'm I traveled in my bedeverywhere, like am I out of
body?
I took my bed with me.
Sometimes I took my whole roomwith me.
I have a whole thing to explainthat, but it's too long for the
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show.
You can go go check out my neardeath podcast that I'm on, it
explains all that.
But I think I just I always knewthat if I didn't take my bed
with me, that I might not comeback.
I'm I want that.
You know, I want my body, and ifI get separated, I might not
that I'm so obviously I wantedto be here.
Um, even while I was going to mynear-death experience, I was
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being carried in my bed down thehospital hallway, and I leaned
up to the nurses station andstarted shaking my finger.
I rescind my DNR, I rescind myDNR, which is do not
resuscitate.
So obviously I knew I was introuble.
And um when I got to the I callit the stadium of light.
So there's lots of details,there's lots of things that
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happened along the way, but umthe stadium of light, it's
interesting because I've had alot of other people that study
near desk tell me people havetalked about the stadium.
I don't know what else to callit than that.
So picture a football stadium,but way bigger.
Um, and I just remember thelights were so bright because I
this my senses were so on, whichis interesting because my body
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in my hospital bed, I had lostall senses one way or another.
And so to have them soheightened, but to see this
brightness of light and uh beable to see through it, it's
really hard to explain becauseit was so bright you wouldn't
even think you'd be able to openyour eyes, it was so bright.
But I could see, and uh the fadthe stadium was filled with you
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know hundreds and thousands ofpeople, and uh I could see them,
but I I also could see feet, soI knew none of them were on the
ground, and then it just thecommunication, like it was so
fast, it was definitely,definitely um telepathic.
Um, but like I remember you lookat someone, and if you even had
a thought before you eventhought could get done thinking
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about it, I mean you alreadyknew it was just like uh I I it
just crazy, crazy.
Um I was shown a live review.
Well, at first then I I say Iattended a concert because it
was like music from all foursounds and just so angelic.
And I think I used to say uhwhen I would explain it that I
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didn't ever hear those songsbefore, but I knew the words to
every song, which could havebeen part of the telepathic
stuff, I don't know.
But I just remember I love tosing and so I'm joining in, and
it was just so I could Ireferred to it as the best
concert that I'd ever been to,you know, till I started putting
the pieces together after I Ilater um but in my live review I
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was I was told some specificthings to do, and that is where
this kind of i it affects nowtoo.
Um I was told first of all, Ionly saw good in my life review,
and um I remember thinking,where's the bad?
I just remember that thought wasthere, but I didn't get that
answer then, so I must have likenot quite finished that thought,
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and I didn't have that answer atthat time.
Um later I did a hypnosissession about it and and it was
revealed so much more, which wasalmost as good.
Um but God told me later, by theway, that I I said, Where's the
where's the bad?
And God said, I'm showing youthe good because that's what
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matters.
And I thought, wow, what a godof love.
Of course that's what matters.
I mean, I don't want to treatpeople bad, but that's what
matters.
But one thing I did learn aboutthe bad is that we, you and I
and everybody else, are going tohave to endure the pain that we
cause somebody else.
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We will have to feel that pain.
And at the time I was sharedthat broke my heart because I
had two years of total andcomplete hell after this
experience.
And with every relationshipalmost, my my husband, a few
friends, I mean, everything wasjeopardized.
And the pain I felt, I wished Iwould have died every day.
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And and I think that was God'sway of healing my heart, you
know, letting me know I I wouldnever wish that on anybody what
I went through.
But I think it was just that wasjust part of what I had to know.
Um going back to the life reviewthere, I was told two things
before I was sent back.
And by the way, I was nevergiven the choice to come back.
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And honestly, when we havepeople that don't come back, I
think you should know they'rechoosing to stay.
There's a reason they'rechoosing to stay.
Maybe they don't get a choiceand they have to stay, or why
would anyone leave that place?
Like, I I I would have stayed.
I really think if I wouldn'thave been told what to do, I
would have stayed, no doubt.
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Um so I was told two things.
I was told to go start anonprofit and I was given the
name Adventure Bucket Wish.
Okay, no other instructions thanthat, just that's that's just
what you need to do.
The second thing was um the dayI found out I had COVID, I had
pitched a company that I was soexcited to partner with on a new
venture called Retreat R.
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And I had the name, but itwasn't incorporated or anything,
but they had a billionairebacker, and I'm thinking,
awesome, this is gonna get thisout so fast, and I was so
excited.
I was told, do not partner withthat company you pitched too,
that that's not the highest andbest thing to do for it.
It will take you longer, butdon't do it.
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Which bummed me out a little, Ihave to say, because I was you
know really excited to do that.
So I came and then I and then Iwas back, and I was I was back
in my body, and just justunraveling all that and trying
to figure out all those things.
Um some of the symbols I sawwere later because okay, when I
came back, my sister um I had tocommunicate with an alphabet
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page that you'd have to point tobecause I was intubated, and it
would take a long time, longtime to come out with one word
sometimes.
I'd be so exhausted because Ihardly had any any strength.
And uh, but when I came out ofthe hospital, I started spelling
K I D.
And my sister says, Oh, do youwant me to tell your kids
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something?
And she knew that wasn't it, andI kept going N A P and she said,
you know, you were doing better,you spelled kidnap.
I'm like ready to throw up inthe garbage can because I'm
like, what happened?
I ran an errand because I wasdoing better.
And what happened while I wasgone?
Why, why are you saying you werekidnapped?
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Anyway, right when Icommunicated that to her, the
doctor and the nurse walked into exhibit me for the first
time, and and and she said youcould talk, not very well, but
you had a lot to say.
And there were still spirits inmy room, and realized quickly as
she's opening doors and drawersand cupboards, you know, that no
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one's there, that I was the onlyone that could see them.
There must have been some kindof fear of some sort.
I why I felt kidnapped, I didnot know until later.
I I have figured some of thatout.
And it's interesting how Godgives us just those drips of
things, and maybe I'm not assmart as most, so I have to it
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takes me longer to process them.
I don't know.
But um, it took those two yearsof going through all that to
realize why I felt kidnapped,and even just this year, the
fourth year later, I just putsome pieces together, and um,
and it was kind of scary becauseI had an entity involved in in
all of it, and um it's just socrazy how the story continues,
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even though the experiencealready happened, my mind
doesn't remember everything.
And when I get anotherexperience and I learn
something, I just look at it assuch a blessing, and I'm so
grateful I got part, I feel likeit's the rest of the story, but
it's still unfolding.
And I knew immediately I I hadtwo books that I needed to
write, and I already had a wholebunch of books.
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Most of them, about half of whatI've done, have been like
compilations, just a chapter insomebody else's book.
But I I wasn't interested inreally writing any more books,
and I knew I had two.
I have one coming out in a weekthat's uh on this story and the
lessons from it, and I know theother one is about the
philanthropy work that's comingout of all of it, and so it's
just this story continues tounfold, and I love that.
SPEAKER_04 (25:37):
I just what is the name of the one coming out in in
a couple of days?
SPEAKER_02 (25:41):
Yeah, it's called Near Death Shift, What Dying
Taught Me About Life, Business,and Purpose.
SPEAKER_04 (25:47):
Wow.
And so the entity, can youreveal something about the
entity on the podcast?
Would you feel so um oh yeah,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
I I I totally, it's just such a long story.
Um, let me sum it up.
So, two years after by what Icall two years of hell, I was
not in a good place for thattime.
I cried every day, and I'm not acrier.
It was just like, why did yousave me to put me through this?
Like, I don't understand.
Why, you know, meanwhile, fourmonths later, I'm still super
sick.
All the long COVID symptoms camefor a year and a half.
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I could hardly work.
Um, there was all this stuffgoing on, and I decided to have
I'm I'm certified for hypnosis,and so I know the process.
I called my coach and I said,Hey, would you do uh hypnosis
specifically on my near-deathexperience?
There's some gaps to it that Ifeel like I'm missing.
I have all the rest from theouter body, I know the spiritual
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one, I know, but the near death,there's some gaps.
Sure.
So we do that, and so I'll justso that's where I didn't end up
in the stadium of light untilthe end.
So it was like I didn't rememberthis part of the story.
I went to this place called thein-between.
There was an entity there.
Um, he was able to talk to theentity, his name was Darby.
(27:00):
Um, he didn't have anyconnection to me that I know of
right now.
Um, but he wanted my light.
He can't have the light, hecouldn't go to the light.
So in the in-between, the darkwas on the right side, the light
was on the left side, and wewere just in this weird space,
and weird matter was floatingaround, weird colors that, you
know, just just weird.
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Even though there was matterfloating around in the light, it
was like, you know, pink huesand yellow hues and white hues,
and this was like cobalt blueand silver and gray and black,
and you know, it was justtotally different.
Um, but they would all form thematter would all form hearts and
it would float to the light.
And I remember thinking, or tothe left, which was the light,
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and I just remember thinking,even in the dark, we're
attracted to the light.
I just remember how all thesethoughts during this going on.
Um, Darby, anyway, he he, Ibelieve, was who why I felt
kidnapped.
He came when I was supervulnerable in my near-death
experience.
And I think when before I got tothe stadium of light, there was
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this long pause of what Iremembered.
I think this is where he took mewas the in-between.
The stadium of light was where Iended up after.
Um and of course that would makeme feel kidnapped.
And so that was a little hedidn't feel evil to me.
He he felt dark, but not likeevil.
I think he just literally waslike, if I can get somebody's
light, I'm gonna take it.
SPEAKER_04 (28:23):
You know, so yeah, it's the choices.
Like, yeah, what's coming to meas you're speaking is this is
where faith steps in.
When you believe and you trustthe Lord and you stay focused on
Him, some of these choices thatwill come at us that question
that light, that question thatfaith, you have to just put your
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shield of faith forward so thatthe pharaohs of the evil one do
not penetrate you or your light.
You gotta guard your light andwith the sword of his word,
fight back, fight through thedarkness to get to the side of
light.
This is what has been like atheme that's been coming through
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for me as well, because like Itold you, uh, only for two days
I was upset with him, but thenum I came back because I can't
be away from God or his lightfor many days.
I just I'm very attracted to hislight, and I've always the
message he's had for me as wellhas been you are a light
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warrior, you gotta fight forthat light, you gotta fight, and
you gotta show others how tofight for that light, they will
have choices and thoughts thatare going to overwhelm them and
try to take them away from theirlight, and your role is to guide
them out of there because you'vebeen there yourself, and it
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sounds like you've been in thatspace as well, and so now how
are you guiding?
People to their light when youfind that they've fallen trapped
into these spaces.
SPEAKER_02 (30:07):
Yeah.
Well, it's okay.
So I hear it takes 10 years tounravel everything I went
through for people, and Ithought, wow, that's too long
for me.
It's been four.
I I feel like things are stillunraveling about it.
Um, I know I'm on the righttrack.
I mean, I it has taken me longerwith things.
So I feel like just by example,it's it's showing, okay, this is
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my story and this is what I did,then what am I doing?
It's like it's like get out ofthe doing and get in the being.
That makes sense.
And it's just sitting back andsaying, okay, today I feel like
crap.
Um, how how am I gonna get mystuff done?
Like it's that surrender we weretalking to about before the
(30:51):
show.
It really is just it'ssurrendering everything and just
saying, okay, this is beyond meand what I'm capable of.
I'm a strong person and I'llfight and I can do this, but can
I have some help?
And a lot of times, if you thinkabout it, we get so stubborn
sometimes about thinking we haveto be the ones to do everything,
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and we don't.
There's I mean, I couldn't evenwipe my own butt in the
hospital.
Come on, I could do nothing formyself.
And so talk about fullsurrender.
I'm just saying sometimes youjust have when the shoe's on the
other foot, you're deprivingthat person of serving you if
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you're not surrendering andletting them serve you.
SPEAKER_04 (31:37):
The images have to come into my mind, and he's
hilarious because he knows whatI need to see in order for that
message to come through very,very clearly.
Don't you find that to be trueof yourself, Kolly?
Like he knows us so well becausehe created us.
So he knows what visions we needto see and what pain we need to
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go through to finally learn thelesson we're meant to learn.
And that is one, surrender.
We are not in control.
And those that think we are incontrol, you don't want to go
through what Holly and I wentthrough to understand that
concept.
So take it from us that havebeen in those spaces of immense
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pain, quit being so foolish.
And this is actually coming fromscripture, from one of like
Paul's letters, I think to theGalatians.
It's like, why are you beingfoolish and looking to your past
for your answers?
That's not where your answersare gonna come from.
Your answer is gonna come fromthe surrender piece to be to
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accept that you've got amission, you've got a purpose
that you need to live out.
The whole gist of life isdiscovering that purpose and
then living it every single dayand surrendering to that purpose
every single day.
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Because what we receive, it'snot based on what we're doing,
yeah.
It's based on a a creator thatloves us so much, that gives us.
It's out of that abundance thatwe receive that we give to
humanity.
We have all received gifts,we're all gifted.
Some of us don't know what thosegifts are because they're too
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busy doing.
Yeah, so the big the big thinghere is quit doing.
The the achievements are notwhat makes us significant, and
the significance doesn't comefrom the outside world, it comes
from within, it comes from him.
He's the only one that can giveyou that significance.
That worth is already yours justfor being his kid.
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You are his child, you're hiscreation, and you're here for a
very specific divine purposethat only you can fulfill.
No one else can do it, becausethat's how unique and special
you are to him, and that's thepiece that I didn't realize for
the longest time.
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That that was recently thesignificance piece because to
me, I sought significance fromothers forever, Holly.
God, that was the hardest onefor me.
And he was like, I'm going tostrip you away of everything.
Like everything you've built,I'm gonna take away because you
don't, you don't, you're notlistening to me.
(34:27):
And so the vision that he gaveme right now as you were
speaking was my my 70-year-oldmother helping me walk to the
terminal because when mynear-death um shifts or my
spiritual awakening happened inHouston, Texas, I'm not from
Houston.
I flew there during Easterweekend, and that's when I had
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my medical complication and mysecond chance at life.
So the three miracles and72-hour story that I have on my
website and in my book, In FaithI Thrive, Finding Joy Through
God's Master Plan.
That's my free chapter for thosethat want to read that.
Um, but the vision was allowothers to help you because
they're there to help you andsupport you.
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God is sending them to you for areason.
You need to learn these lessonsnow.
Do not go through what we wentthrough.
That some of us don't make itout.
You know, like if you don'tlisten to his promptings and you
don't listen when he's speakingto you, you you you'll likely
die in some of these situationsbecause in my case, I listened
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when he said lean forward andyou'll be able to breathe.
When I was jolted out of bed inthe middle of the night in a
hospital room, I had just flownfrom South Texas to Houston to
meet my boyfriend, who thenbecame my second husband.
But I had two pulmonaryembolisms that were passing
through my heart that were aboutto stop my heart.
Had I not listened to the HolySpirit's prompting to lean
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forward to breathe and laid backdown, I likely would have died.
Wow, it's that simple.
And the doctors explained it tome.
The science was clear, like Iwould have died.
They were large, and I had nobusiness passing them and
living, is what the doctors, inessence, told me in the
hospital.
So to bring him back to theinterview, there's just be aware
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of his promptings, have arelationship with him, invite
him in to your everyday.
So when we talk about surrender,then you're dying.
Only when you're dying.
Although that's how Holly and Ilearned the concept of
surrender, the first go-around.
Now I have to die to live, iswhat I say.
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Trust us.
This is not fun to go throughthis because it it your body
gets humbled in such a wayphysically, emotionally,
spiritually, mentally.
It's it's it's quite thejourney.
Let trust us on this.
And it's not an easy journey.
So um, if you're one of us,learn from us directly.
SPEAKER_03 (37:07):
Don't put your hand on the stove to get burnt,
please.
SPEAKER_04 (37:10):
Yeah, so um lots, words of encouragement you think
God wants you to share with ustoday, holly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
Oh, I got the biggest.
Um one of my messages was that Igot I actually got later, the
two years later, was love andwhere they're at.
And that, if I would haveremembered from the beginning, I
wouldn't have gone through thosetwo years.
And I needed those lessons forthose two years for all the
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philanthropy work I'm doing inthe future that I know has to
happen.
I had to see how horrible thissystem was, and I had to go
through and cry every day to seelove and where they're at takes
away that judgment.
And I know we all have somebodywho who really probably bothers
us.
Do you know?
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That's probably the person youshould serve the most.
As hard as it is, that will takeyou out, that will bring you to
surrender faster than anything Iknow, and just love on them no
matter what.
Just love them no matter whatthey're doing, where how they're
living, it's not our place tojudge that.
So that's the message I wouldleave.
SPEAKER_04 (38:26):
Yeah, another vision came through clearly with those
words, and it's me on my kneesrecently.
And um and it got comes back to2023 when he showed me what
Satan was doing in my marriage,and why I just couldn't seem to
get out of this cycle in mymarriage.
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And he said, I need you to inrecent months the the word
submission has been very presentin in me for my marriage, and I
have found a letter that a cardI had given my husband years ago
in 2017.
SPEAKER_03 (39:08):
And when I first read it, it I couldn't get
through it, Holly.
SPEAKER_04 (39:14):
It just it was too painful, and I remember hearing
a voice that said, keep it,don't burn it, because my
initial ego desire was to burnit.
I didn't want to deal with it, Ididn't want to be that person,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (39:30):
And God had other plans for me, so he said, just
keep it, it's gonna make senselater.
SPEAKER_04 (39:37):
And so I did, I kept it in my drawers, and then the
week before, this is inSeptember of this year, I had
gifted my husband for ourwedding anniversary for our
12th, a trip to Nashville,Tennessee, and we're in Texas,
we live in Austin, and um I wascleaning out doors, he was out
of town, and I was gonna confessto him how I had dishonored and
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disrespected him throughout our12 years of marriage as a part
of um um the submission piece,and um that God had me on this
journey, right, to to kind ofreconcile me and bring me full
circle.
And that I was going to talk tohim that week, and then he got
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an assignment.
He's a very he's got animportant role in this company,
he's um director of electricalengineering, but he's someone
that is so uniquely gifted, heis very intelligent, but beyond
like the intelligence, like Iwish I had that intelligence,
(40:43):
right?
kind of guy, and he solvedproblems for these big
companies, and so they werebringing him onto a project
because they were relying on himto solve this major problem.
And for the first time in mymarriage, I didn't run to tell
him what God had shown me.
I kept it to myself becausethat's what I felt I needed to
do, because I was loving, I wasputting him before my own needs,
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like I was submitting to theLord first and his needs and his
timing, and in that week I wascleaning out drawers, and here
comes that letter.
And I opened it up and I readit, and everything came full
circle.
All those pieces suddenly madesense, and I remember like
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dropping to my knees completelyhumble in full surrender and
begging God to forgive me forhurting his son with my words,
with my judgment, with mythoughts, even I had I had
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dishonored and disrespected Godfirst through that, and I I I
owed him that because see inDecember of 2011, before my
medical journey, before Donniewas there with me, um I was
sitting having coffee next to myChristmas tree, and God said,
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Donnie, here's your gift fromme.
So, and he showed himself to usin the ICU.
He he said, You're this is mywill for you guys to be married.
You need to stay in my will, andI need you to feel the pain you
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put him through.
And when I read that letter andI understood the pain I put my
husband through, it all madesense.
So you sharing that story withme now is again, once again,
affirming why we go throughthese chapters is because it's
the only way we will understandour role in our relationships
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with others and how we hurtother people and how we really
need to lead with love.
That love does not keep a recordof wrongs, it is not
self-seeking, it it rejoices inthe truth.
You don't want it's hard tohear, you know, and we're here
to meet and to love people theway that we have received love
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from him, and it's with mercyand grace and kindness,
especially kindness.
So I I want to thank you, Holly,for your beautiful story and for
your beautiful light, becausewhat this world needs it, uh,
and for the listeners of releasethat reveal purpose, remember
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Matthew 5.14 to always be thelight.
SPEAKER_03 (43:55):
Be that beautiful light that you carry inside of
you.
SPEAKER_04 (44:01):
Step into it with all of your heart, with all of
your faith.
Stay focused on him, keep him infront and center in everything
you do, and you will you willhave the most beautiful life
despite the trials andtribulations that you face.
SPEAKER_03 (44:19):
Because you will feel love unlike any love you'll
feel here on earth.
I love you all.
Stay blessed.
Thank you, Holly, once again.
Have a beautiful week.
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