Inside Out and Inside Out 2 : Why was envy even there, though?

This week, Nicole and Rolando venture into their emotional headquarters to discuss Disney and Pixar's Inside Out and Inside Out 2. Join them as they explore the inner workings of emotions (both necessary and unnecessary), debate over the existence of core memories, and the discuss impact these beloved films could have if Riley was a boy?!

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On to this week's episode.
Rolando, in the headquarters of your mind, which emotion do you think has complete charge over you?

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Your emotional system.
I'm probably going to say anger. I feel like anger is probably the one that
drives me the most. Okay. Why is that?
According to my therapist, I have anger issues. That might be why.
Oh, well, there you go. Yeah.
And because I'm pretty hot-headed. I'm pretty quick to explode and stuff.

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I hide it so well on this podcast.
Right. Do you? I think I do. No, you do. You do.
Okay. Can you guess what mine is? I feel like you might be able to,
at least what I would say.
I was going to say sadness. It is sadness. Oh my God. It sounds so mean to say, but I just assumed.

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No, no, no. I think I'm very in touch with my emotions.
And I think that I welcome in probably sadness more than others do,
right? I don't think I suffer from repression.
Let's say that. Right, right, right. The other emotion, it might be not anger
for me. It actually might be disgust, though.
Okay, I could see that for you. I can see that for me as well.
I mean, I feel all of these pretty frequently. But if we were to incorporate

(01:38):
the new emotions, I absolutely think anxiety is present.
Oh, yeah, no. Anxiety for me as well.
Yeah. Yeah, but obviously we're dancing around it.
Today we're talking about Inside Out, Pixar's Inside Out film,
and the new revival, technically a sequel, of the Inside Out property,

(01:58):
Inside Out 2, which was a major hit.
It pretty much saved the American box office, so good for that.
We'll see how it continues from here. But we are without Eddie Z today,
and we are definitely feeling sadness there. So we miss you, Eddie Z.
Yes. Whose fault is that that he's not here?
It is mine because if you can't tell I was quite sick and I had to delay the

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recording So take full blame for that.
Sorry, Eddie. Don't put a curse on me. All right, let's get into it.
I'm Nicole I'm Rolando and this is remakes reboots and revivals an original
podcast about unoriginality.
Music.

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Well, the reason why I'm sick is because I had a very lovely beach weekend,
but I saw my niece and nephew during it.
And of course, children are cesspools of germs.
And so I noticed the moment I saw them that they had ruddy noses.
I'm like, oh, God, I got to be careful.
I was careful, but my girlfriend got it and then I got it.
So wait, how do you how how how would you be careful? What would you have done

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differently to not got no hugs?
No kisses. wow you didn't hug or kiss your
child uh my niece a nephew not really i tried
my hardest not to like maybe like a leg hug
you know when they hold your legs and then you know you tap their back with
but not like a full embrace i was gonna say why has pixar not done a movie about
like the immune system but that's because dreamworks did it with osmosis jones

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yes oh my gosh that was dreamworks,
i think that was i'm pretty sure that was dreamworks wow and i've heard that
movie was is actually pretty biologically accurate.
Okay, I'm sure it was. Just like how Inside Out is pretty accurate about how our mind works.
You know, surprisingly though, Pete Docter, who came up with this,

(03:57):
he consulted psychologists and neuroscientists because he really wanted to do
the best job he could in a fantasy aspect of portraying this.
But the concept of core memories is just not found in psychology at all.
I think that's where the creativity comes in, right? I'm just saying.
But that is the crux of the first film.

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And it's just like, yeah, I base this off of reality. It's just like,
yeah, except like the entirety of the main storyline.
I suppose. I mean, can't we just have a nice blend of research and reality and fantasy here?
I feel like he just said, I did some research into this to make it sound more legit.
But now I feel like there's a whole slew of people who think this is how the brain works.

(04:40):
It's not that there's like little people little creatures like controlling our
emotions but like this idea of like core memories being like
a real thing i got into an actual argument with eddie about this because he's
saying no core memories are real because like think of trauma
that's like a form of core memory i'm just like that is not that
is different interesting okay well
that's separate from the movie though just because some people would

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be like oh yeah no i have five emotions running
around in my brain is not necessarily the movie's fault
although i think core memories are probably very closely
related to something the name
i can't think of like it's not core memories but it's maybe this you
know eddie's on to something with relating it to say trauma and whatnot
alas so i don't know much about the brain so i'm gonna just stop that there

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but in part of my research semester of psychology yes that was my freshman year
and i was always hung over in class yeah my professor was horrible so i didn't
retain any of that so your teachers Truths really matter.
It's not the subject matter. It's the teachers. Most certainly true. Yes.
Definitely, though, I think that the fact that it took five and a half years

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for him to work on this film is at least somewhat of a sign of how much he tried
to really make it as, quote unquote,
scientifically accurate as he could. But, of course, creative liberties.
So five and a half years, though, that's a pretty long time for Pixar.
And this is a film that was made by Pete Docter, who I think is responsible

(06:07):
for some of the most emotional of the Pixar movies.
Movies he also made monsters incorporated he
made whack up that was
good and he made soul which i
actually was a little disappointed by soul i
liked it but i'm also glad i didn't pay
for it i saw it at home like oh yeah

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during the pandemic so it got released straight to i
feel like the ending was kind of a little bit weak is
where it comes like it literally kind
of just ended abruptly a little bit in my opinion i think
i was with the movie until someone turned into a cat and
i don't know i just the movie sometimes pete doctor

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has to like take these profound ideas
that he comes up with and like you know make a pretty generic
like hollywood you know eight act stories
um not eight act eight point story structure out of it especially in up like
when there's a need for a villain and the whole talking dog thing that doesn't
work for me but of course you can't have a children's movie about like this

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guy floating off and just trying to like heal his own pain from losing his wife
like they needed something more substantial.
But it sucks because I think Up suffers for that. I think Soul suffered for the same way.
I think Monsters, Inc. and Inside Out are kind of like the two perfect blends
of needing a story and needing kids to, you know, follow this classic story

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structure along with some really profound emotions for a children's movie.
I mean, I don't care for Monsters, Inc.
Like, I just never did. And it's also like what a weak replacement for Disney World.
World like they they took away alien invasion
and they gave us stitches
invasion which i was just like all right fine we cute seated up

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but then to remove that and make us do the
laugh factory from monsters inc i was just
like no no never yeah there was
like that has burnt me because like we talked about monsters inc on the
podcast and then i went to see the ride and i'm just like no never you know
what i take it back everything anything positive i said monsters inc i've taken
it back wow it was that bad for of an experience oh it was it was yeah and they

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didn't take any of my knock-knock jokes oh well then that's the real reason
it's a little personal vendetta there,
i think the real travesty is the fact that this is a completely different studio
but that they removed the back to the future right and put in a simpsons one
and i'm a fan of the simpsons but that ride is just not good.
Oh, I've never been on either. Oh. My family was more Disney,

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right? Okay. Anytime we went to Universal, it was always Islands of Adventure.
Even before Harry Potter? Oh, yeah, even before Harry Potter.
Are you kidding me? Even before Harry Potter, the rides in Islands of Adventure were kick-ass.
They still are, but there were more roller coasters prior, right?
Like, Zooling Dragons was a good one. The Hulk is still a good one.

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Velociraptor is actually really great though Oh you went on that?
Oh I loved it I want to go bad Just for the ride Did you go on Tron? Or was that not up?
Oh my god don't even get me started So Eddie and I went to Disney World Last
year we were in Magic Kingdom The day before It opened Oh my god We missed it by one day,

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That's terrible I was livid and I was screaming at All the children I was with.
I'm scared it's your fault damn that
sucks i know but and you didn't get to go on
guardians because you didn't go to epcot did yeah i didn't go to epcot i
don't even think it might not have been opened yet to be honest i
don't remember i think it was you went last year it went

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last april yeah it was open because it was open when
i went in 2022 okay all right uh yeah i we
were with a family so there wasn't going to be i don't
know how comfortable eddie would have gotten you know getting drunk walking around
epcot but that's my goal because i haven't oh yeah
i mean i haven't seen people on tiktok just you know
post like you know do videos of like this is my first drink at

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epcot and then by the end they just wasted yeah i
mean try to try to make it around the world i mean they spent like about three
hundred dollars it was worth it i would totally spend
that drop that i would drop more just to be able to drink around the
epcot world pavilion epcot is it's a a nice blend of that but they actually
have good rights the ratatouille ride is great i don't believe that one second

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oh i thought also but i love ratatouille oh you've never seen ratatouille you
know i have no interest in seeing a rat cook food.
And i think the animation style is kind of ugly i don't like the animation design
yeah it's such a bizarre premise for a movie and yet in my opinion it really

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really works and it took me
by surprise and the whole message is like don't let anyone tell you what you
can do don't let anyone tell you who you could be i'm going to tell a rat what
it can be and it's just like it's a rat,
and it does not belong in the kitchen that's a pixar movie right that is pixar
it's one of my top five i think so shut up i think what are your top five pixar
movies okay so inside out is one of them okay you don't have to give me that's

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fine yeah this is not an order but it's It's Inside Out, Coco,
Ratatouille, Finding Nemo, and probably Toy Story 2.
Oh, okay. Interesting.
Ones that for me come to mind are my top
five would probably be luca is in

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that top five because i think it's like the gayest of the
pixar movies without ever having to say
the word gay i i did like coco toy
story 2 is also probably on
that list for me i'm trying
to i'm like looking through them to see like which ones like
really have the incredibles incredibles is

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great that's top 10 and i can't
think of a fourth at the moment okay so inside
out doesn't make it inside out is
pretty close like inside out for sure is top 10
i would agree as is finding nemo right but some
of these i think maybe it's the
subject matters that end up like weighing you know

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skewing me like i think wally is such a beautiful film and it's
so little dialogue for the most part right yeah
i love well and it's just such a wonderful film i think
the animation is spectacular for luca
i loved it because it's like it's like a queer love story without ever saying
the word gay but even i still stand by the thing you had the two little old

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ladies when they reveal themselves to be like see people it's just like the
lesbian couple you know showing the world that they are lesbians this Pixar has had good movies.
Pixar has had some clunkers. Cars, we'll never speak of them.
Even though you've never seen Cars. And I will never will. And I never will.

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So I've seen every single Pixar movie, but Cars has its fan base. I'm not part of that.
I think my least favorite was Onward because I don't think that just, it didn't speak to me.
It spoke to me, but I didn't care for it.
Yeah. And honestly, I think Inside Out and Coco were kind of like the peak of the Pixar moment.

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And it's been struggling ever since those two films to really regain that.
Maybe Luca is an exception.
I need to rewatch Luca. I really enjoyed it, but I didn't love it. Oh, I loved it so much.
It was such a good movie. yeah I actually really do want to
watch it again but like Elemental it's good
but it's not of that caliber that like
WALL-E and Finding Nemo and all of like

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those movies are what are
some of the more recent ones too that I'm forgetting I did
not enjoy Toy Story 4 there's sequels basically right yeah they're
pretty much Lightyear I did not enjoy Lightyear I
did that episode a load I've still
yet to see Lightyear I haven't watched it yet it yeah
i like chris evans right but he's not in

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the movie he's just doing the voice turning red i liked
turning red was great red was good so but
now they're focusing more on these franchise continuations and stuff so it i
don't know it's just not the same because also when pixar came out and released
that content they really had no one to compete with them now you got illumination
competing with you you got the brand

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new like animation styles that That Spider-Verse kind of came up with.
And that all of these. Like animation is being pushed into a different realm.
And I'm wondering if Pixar can compete with that is all. I think Pixar can.
I just think this owner. The proprietor Disney is not letting them.
True. I will say too. I think that's ultimately what the problem is.

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Because Disney is also kind of suffering with this too.
Right? Like they are also going away from original Disney movies.
Movies in in lieu of sequels
right so they're working moana 2 for example was supposed to be like a directed
dvd sequel that the studio has decided to like make a theatrical release and

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like have dwayne the rock johnson and the young woman from mean girls i forgot her name,
I pronounce it A-O-L-E, and people may find me on TikTok, so I won't do that again.
Carpalo. I really come from Ilo or something, but yeah.
Yeah. And so that's an example. I think they're working on another Frozen.

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I might be mistaken on this.
But yeah, they're giving us just sequels and stuff, and that's because Disney
is no longer an innovator. They're just looking to make a quick buck.
Yeah it's a shame i'm hearing that that's a
trajectory that both of these companies are going in and it's just really unfortunate
well yeah and but that's because again disney owns pixar yeah so like they're

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just going to do whatever the the the board tells them same thing i mean this
same could be said about marvel and and and and lucasfilm right like they're
not innovating like they had originally because disney's not letting them,
man grim times ahead honestly because also with like the rebirth of dc movies

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so we're getting another superman movie we're gonna get i think another green
lantern movie or something it's like oh when are we gonna get something new
and exciting well i'll give dc this,
they at least when they're trying to tell some stories they do sometimes try
to take risks not Not all the time, but sometimes they do.
And, you know, sometimes you get like good DC movies that are just weird and different.

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Yeah, especially when you got what's his name at the helm, Zack Snyder.
All right, so maybe we should get back on track.
Zack Snyder is no longer on the helm. Well, he was, but we haven't seen any
results yet of the new guy.
Oh, no. Yeah, we haven't. And, you know, we'll wait and see to see what happens. Yeah.
Fingers crossed for DC fans because it's not been a good time for them.

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But OK, let's get back on track with Inside Out.
Pete Docter, by the way, he made this. he made soul and now he's the creative
the chief creative officer of pixar so he's not really making movies anymore
and he didn't make inside out too that actually was done by kelsey man,
who i think this was like her first film actually for pixar so a lot of these

(17:39):
people kelsey man is a guy him sorry whoops a lot of the people that are now
in charge of making these
films for pixar are not the original guys
you know the guys who like bill parks up pixar and a lot of them have been
ousted and stuff so i don't think john
laster is not there anymore because of complaints about his conduct was he

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just like inappropriate oh was he really
that's what i've heard oh that's uh
i don't believe andrew stanton's there brad bird's not there so a
lot of these people who created these iconic uh things for
pixar have left but p doctor remains means okay
inside out it came out in june no
wait i'm sorry yes it did come out in june i think of 2015 or perhaps may that

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the cans debut came out in may 2015 yeah it had a budget of 175 million dollars
and it grossed 858 million and the new movie is actually very close to that number which is crazy.
So what is Inside Out about? If you don't know, it's about a little girl named Riley.
And we pretty much see inside her mind and the emotions that control her whole system.

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There's five predominantly. The first one that came to existence for her is joy.
Then the next emotion that she feels that comes into existence is sadness,
followed by fear, disgust, and anger.
And joy pretty much runs the ship that is Riley.
She's her main leader of her emotions. And she kind of also,

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everybody looks to joy in order
to help make sure and ensue that Riley is safe and well and just happy.
And what they want more than anything, especially joy, is for Riley to be happy.
So we see in the beginning, her whole, you know, growing up up until the age
of 11, when she has to move from her beloved Minnesota to San Francisco,

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and how intense that is for Riley.
She starts to experience, though, other emotions.
It's personified by the fact that sadness kind of starts interjecting herself
where she shouldn't be, but it's because Riley is experiencing a lot of emotions
and sadness just feels called to kind of express them for her. Mm-hmm.

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There's all these other things, too, about how the brain works.
Like, there's core memories.
A lot of the things that are experienced get turned into color orbs,
and then at the end of the day, they get sent into long-term memory every night.
Her core memories take forms of personalities, and they have five floating islands,
which is hockey, silly, like goofball island, hockey island,

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family island, friendship island, and I forgot the last one.
Imagination land? It might be. These are all the core things that make Riley
Riley at this young age of 11.
While she's moving, in the midst of moving and going to a new school,
and she starts to express more of her sadness, there kind of becomes a, what's the word?

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Not even conflict between joy and sadness, but they pretty much get sucked into
the back of Riley's mind, and they're no longer- Yeah, like the deep consciousness.
I think so. So, and so they're not there anymore in headquarters,
you know, ruling her emotions. Now it's fear, disgust, and anger.
And so the whole movie is pretty much now joy and sadness trying to make their

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way back to headquarters so that they can help Riley express herself with joy and sadness.
And joy learning a couple of things.
They meet a couple of different parts of her, you know, subconsciousness.
Particularly they meet up with bing bong who is
riley's old imaginary friend that's just kind of wandering her subconsciousness we
see all like the reasons why a song will pop into your head like the triple

(21:28):
dent gun gum commercial uh gag and we see who's responsible for dreams you know
all this stuff so it's very light and comedic but it gets very emotional at
the same time uh did you see this movie in theaters.
I think I did I don't remember I'm pretty sure I did,

(21:52):
2005 was how long ago 2015 nine
years ago nine years ago so yeah i was with eddie
so most likely i saw this already in theaters okay how
long have you guys been together for nine years we've been together for 10 wow
that's amazing oh yeah i'm pretty sure we saw this in theaters i off off the

(22:13):
top of my head i do not remember though okay i did not see this in theaters
no wow yeah i I actually missed this and Coco.
I think I was just too busy being in college and working and stuff.
I don't know. There were a couple of big movies that I missed around that time.
Yeah, Coco I saw at home, not in theaters. Oh, okay.

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But the moment I saw Inside Out, I loved it. And I was like a crying mess throughout most of it.
So did you cry?
Yeah, when Bing Bong dies, I did cry.
Or I dropped a couple of tears. I shed a couple of tears. spoiler
alert oh a movie that's almost
10 years old that has a sequel you have yeah i mean if

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you're listening to this episode presumably you want to hear about the sequel
and you've seen the original but yes bing bong dying is very or at least fading
away because what happens is that they get kind of stuck where you know the
memories that they throw out that riley doesn't need anymore and then they just
fade away and they exit her her mind they get stuck down there and.

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And a way for them to escape is to utilize, you know, this machine or whatever.
Yeah, this rocket ship that whatever. He sacrifices himself to make sure that
Joy can make it to, you know, the panel.
And it's like a beautiful sacrifice. He sees himself disappearing.
So he knows like his time is up and like he helps her get there.

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And yeah, it was such a beautiful scene and stuff.
And it's like, you know, this is an imaginary creature.
You and yet you're crying because like it was handled so well right and i i
will give credit for this movie like this movie understands storytelling yeah
and then also what it stands for is so beautiful.

(23:58):
What does it stand for well the fact that these.
Imaginary friend you know that loss of.
Innocence the things that you can't help but forget as
you grow up and as time goes on yes i
thought you're talking about like the movie itself like what at its
core message it's about it's just like that we cannot be just full
of joy all the time that this movie that this

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movie is really telling us is like we have to embrace all our
aspects of our emotions which i thought was a beautiful message
right because you know and this is
kudos to casting amy poehler because she has
kind of that infectious joy in her
performances especially since i know her mostly from
parks and rec right like that joy and

(24:42):
leslie nope go hand in hand and seeing her
and again also phyllis phyllis
from the the office phyllis her name is also phyllis something
phyllis smith phyllis smith okay yeah phyllis smith
is also great casting because there is something so in
her delivery that is sad and there was also i'm digging

(25:03):
out to phyllis from the office there was something sad about that
character also right and so perfect casting
and the performances are great but i think also just kind of
the story of trying to coexist and trying to find balance i think it was it
was very well told i actually my only qualm with the movie comes to the fact

(25:24):
that like i think this movie actually would have maybe and you can argue me
on this would have been stronger if riley was a boy.
Okay why is because boys are always told to suppress their feelings and i think,
I think girls are often taught that it's okay to cry, that it's okay to be sad

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and stuff, right? Where boys are not.
And I think this actually message might have been something if it was a boy
main character, a boy that we're controlling and stuff.
Like, that might have been maybe a little bit more impactful.
And that's to say that I don't think the movie is not. I think the movie is great.
I love watching Riley and, like, kind of going through her emotions.

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But I do think if Riley was a boy, there might have been a little bit more...
Sting to that kind of message because like you know boys are often
taught to just like suppress your don't cry
boys don't cry and stuff right and i think ultimately this
is about a girl who has to like just shut down and cry for the feelings that
she is bottling up but that's just me that's just my read right i i again i

(26:34):
don't i'm not saying that this movie was not good because of that i think this
movie is great right it might have been just a little bit stronger if it was in in fact, a boy.
I mean, you make a good point for that in terms of at least how people should
be receiving it or maybe the fact that boys could see that and relate to it
and maybe then let some flood of emotions go through their bodies.

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It's interesting, though, because there's very few Pixar main characters that are girls.
And yet here's one where we have one and then it's like, oh man,
this is the story that perhaps it would have been better for a boy.
I mean can we think of other now we have turning red so there's her we have brave,
inside out yeah joy is a is well

(27:20):
joy slash riley yeah yeah is riley the main character though it's joy joy it's
joy yeah but joy is coded as female she's coded as female but it's also they're
controlling you know we're also rooting for riley all these emotions are just
personifications of this girl, Riley.
So I think they're kind of one in the same. The Incredibles 2.

(27:44):
Um i saw that once yeah the incredible two she misses incredible is the main character,
it's her story yeah because she has to yeah elemental is
also another one that's uh female yeah so
you're right like 26 movies yeah most of
them tend to be boys yeah and it's it's
great too because in a weird way inside out two is kind of a reverted buddy

(28:08):
film where it's like they can't stand each other but then they grow to realize
how much they need each other yeah and And the message of realizing that joy
inside us goes hand in hand and that you must embrace it to fully feel something else.
You know, just like avoiding repression and realizing how important it is to
let all those things happen within your body is quite beautiful for not only

(28:33):
the children watching, but for the adults.
It's actually an incredibly complex film, and I don't think many kids could
understand a lot of what's going on in the film.
In a deeper level okay wow way
to call children dummies i never
called any child a dummy i think i don't know
i actually think the way they portray these things i think

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kids kind of get it to be quite honest like maybe they don't yeah i think you're
not wrong like in which like maybe they don't understand the depths of it but
i do think in how they portray like dreams how they portray.
Deleting of memories and stuff i think kids get it
i think kids i i actually do think they did let's define children because maybe

(29:20):
i'm thinking of my niece and my nephew but maybe you know yeah i'm thinking
like like 11 year olds who are watching this they probably get it oh i was going
to go as low as like probably five year olds five and six i mean i don't know
i mean i think they could understand and follow along,
but when they get older, it's going to be something that's going to hit them even deeper.
Sure. But no, but I think, I don't know. The movie wasn't that easy.

(29:46):
I don't feel like for a child's movie, this movie's pretty deep. A lot of it is puns.
Inside Out and Inside Out 2 are movies that just run on puns.
Like The Thought Train, for example. Yes, I mean, yeah. And they're all just
a bunch of metaphors for things that we experience.
Exactly. But I think because of how they're able to portray that in a visual

(30:09):
sense, I think that's why kids are able to grasp these ideas.
You know they're they're they're i think that's why kids
are able to like kind of connect these ideas to what is
being told as a story so i don't think it's just following along story i think
overall like what it's trying to tell us about the mind even though as i have
stated completely concocted by this director and not based on all any reality

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i do think that kids get it and so like the idea like you know when they see
the memories playing back and stuff and uh yeah i I don't know.
I give children a little bit more credit. And I think that's a bonus for this film.
Like being able to take these abstract ideas and kind of turning them into something
digestible for children and families.

(30:52):
Hmm. Okay. I mean, I think that a film portraying, you know,
a person who's completely disconnected from themselves and emotions is pretty.
I applaud them for going there because not a lot of movies before that have
gone. And I think it's a lot.
Maybe I am underestimating children myself when I'm saying that it goes over their heads.

(31:14):
But I do think it's clever at the end of the day. Maybe it's not like the deepest thing in the world.
And I think that the message of just maintaining an emotional balance and making
sure in order to become a balanced human being that you must embrace all of these emotions is a lot.
And yeah, I mean, I just kind of, I like it.

(31:35):
Because also she like you know joy wanting
the best for riley and wanting her to be happy makes
she's actually kind of the villain of the movie because she's
the whole reason why everything happened like she's the reason that everything
got fucked up and it's completely insane and
neurotic to think that you could be happy all the time you know right and i
think that's oh again from a storytelling point of view like they did they did

(32:00):
this beautiful thing where Where our protagonist reveals themselves to be the
antagonist of the journey, right?
Because the antagonist for the beginning of the film is pointed to be sadness,
right? Like sadness is changing things. And so sadness is the bad guy.
And then we realize just like, oh, it's really you, Joy. Joy, you're not able to grow.

(32:27):
Yeah yeah no yeah ignorance at the
end of the day but yeah yeah totally you know it's a
look inside out is for sure like a great film
and i it's a movie that
when i saw it i loved it i've only seen it i only
re-watched it for the second time like for the podcast right i
only saw it once and then same and let it go and then

(32:48):
i re-watched it for the podcast and i was just like no it's still it still holds
up it's still good the bing eddie says upon re-watch
the bing bong scene didn't it hit as hard i disagree
i still think even knowing it's coming it's
still hit it's still you know and
i i think it's it's a wonderfully clever film
and i think casting top notch i think the voice acting in it is so wonderful

(33:12):
and yeah yeah yeah like this is this is for sure top pixar right and i could
see why as a studio disney was just like all right well we got to go back to.
To the to to to inside out what what
more can you give us it's true and they
did kind of set it up at the end for a sequel with the

(33:35):
puberty button so yeah they did they they
i guess we should have seen it possibly coming
that they were open to a sequel yeah
so then that's where where inside out two pretty
much comes into the fray nine whole years
later it was first announced two years ago at a disney expo okay so they wow

(33:57):
they move way faster than the first one yeah seriously but you know maybe this
is controversial to say or maybe not they pretty much had the template already
worked out for them in the first one so So,
in some ways, it's a copy and paste. It is.
And adding more puns, right? But I think the hard work that they had kind of

(34:22):
ahead of them was just like, okay, well, we know the world.
What story can we build out of it? And I think I actually do think it's a little
bit of a cop out to just introduce new emotions that aren't necessarily emotions.
Yeah, that's my guess. That's like, like, not for nothing, but like,
is paranoia really, not paranoia, what was it?

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So Riley's 13. Let's just talk about it really quick. She's about to enter high
school. Spoiler alert, guys.
Now that the puberty alarm that we saw at the end of the film that was installed
on their little, their controller, it goes off. And with that,
a bunch of new characters arrive.
Anxiety, envy, embarrassment, and ennui, which is boredom.

(35:10):
It was just those four? I thought there was one more. No, it was four.
There was also Nostalgia who kept popping in and out.
Again, is that an emotion? Is that an emotion? I also was like, okay.
Also, there's this thing that Riley's building a sense of self, right?
All of these certain things that she does, like helps her friend out,

(35:30):
hugs her parents, whatever. They're all introducing this sense of self for herself.
And the sense of self is telling herself that she's a good person. it and
they've worked really hard for her to have this sense of
who she is these new characters come
in and the whole plot is that pretty much they're like look
things are more complicated puberty requires a
little more complex emotions and we're going to rebuild riley's

(35:53):
sense of self and so anxiety at
the helm decides to you know lead this gets rid
of the old self sense of self and then takes all those
five emotions joy sadness fear anger and disgust and
puts them in the back of the brain so once again these characters the
whole movie is them trying to find their way back to headquarters right been
there done that but now it's all five of them instead of just joy and sadness

(36:16):
and now at the helm we have riley is just now being identified by her anxiety
envy embarrassment and a new week,
Envy, I felt like, was not Envy. Oh, my God. Thank you. I agree.
Envy had one moment of Envy. And after that, she was just like the sidekick.

(36:40):
Yeah, pretty much. She had no strong emotions. And I'm like, why is she even there?
I know why we cast Ayu Adibri, rising star, and a very distinct delivery in lines.
But like not at all the character they created here was absolutely kind of just like like,
lackey it just completely this character was just

(37:02):
the lackey of anxiety yeah i
think she maybe she should have been desperation or something like
something that just was more true to what she ended up doing but there
was no sense of envy and again that's a good way of describing
it she was a sidekick so there's that embarrassment never
talks embarrassment was good um i

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mean it was a cute emotion i understood it and it had a purpose and i think
embarrassment is i don't know is that i guess that is an emotion it is yeah
it's like a feeling that we get it's a it's yeah every so often it comes and
in waves but but on we how is on we much different from disgust.

(37:42):
I know well in fact of the
five original emotions i'm like is disgust such a predominant emotion let's
be yeah agree yes we can make that argument about the first one disgust was
like kind of the weakest of the emotions yeah that's not something that i guess
we feel it regularly but it's not like i don't know if it's one of my driving

(38:03):
well i take it back for me sometimes it is but.
But i think from disgust though you get like
that feeling of like uh kind of
what on we does which is like sarcasm and
like kind of i mean what does on we what else
is on we do just yeah
just cool she's cool relaxed she like regulates

(38:24):
them which disgust would do because disgust would
be disgusted by things that are uncool right so again
it's just like some of these some of these emotions didn't make sense yeah
i would agree i don't know if we needed a whole roster we could
have just brought in just anxiety yeah i
guess they needed like a sidekick for her or something but yeah
i that i wanted to

(38:47):
say right off the bat i was very disappointed with that and just
didn't feel like it it hit so the whole
thing with Riley's life is that she's going to a weekend ice hockey
camp with her two best friends Bree and Grace and Bree
and Grace during this trip to like they're
in route to the ice hockey camp and they
make the whole announcement that they're going to be at separate schools but

(39:08):
that they can remain friends and of course this makes her upset Riley very upset
but also Riley's wants to become a professional ice hockey player and she wants
to take this weekend camp very seriously and there's this girl that she kind of.
And looks up to, maybe has a crush on, that she wants to be best friends with at the camp.

(39:31):
And that scene where she sees her, too, me and my girlfriend kind of looked
at each other like, oh, maybe she's got the hots for her.
Maybe that was us seeing what we wanted to see. Well, I thought that was going
to be the deep, dark secret.
That's what I thought, too. And they didn't come through with that,
which I was also upset by. Yeah, so was Eddie. Eddie was, like, quite disappointed.
Yeah, so. I'm going to tell you Eddie's theory. theory

(39:54):
i'll tell you eddie's theory now eddie eddie had the theory that like maybe
this maybe riley was a lesbian because everyone else's emotions all correlate
to the same gender that the that the person is but riley is the only character
that has both male and female genders.
So he always posited that possibly

(40:16):
this would mean that either riley was like maybe going
to be trans or i was just like that's disney would
never i know how fucking
great but maybe lesbian sure i'm sure
that's like that's an easier barrier to
cross but not have riley be trans like disney would
absolutely disney would just shelve this movie be like get the fuck out of here

(40:38):
it's true yeah they could barely do strange world without having people lose
their minds so So I definitely think that maybe they were like plotting something
or they just put something there and let our imaginations run wild.
But I was a little upset that they didn't come into play because these movies
are very traditional in their storytelling.
And it's unfortunate when something gets planted and then does not,

(41:01):
you know, get brought back or become part of the story.
So, because when these fiber motions go down, they're like locked in a safe
and in that safe are other like things that are,
suppressed or something i believe which is the
character from the tv show that she used to like she doesn't want to
admit that she likes that character anymore uh was it

(41:23):
a character i thought it was a video game there's the video game guy but there's
also the pouchy oh right right right that was like like door of the explorer
kind of yeah that character drove me a little bit up the wall to be quite honest
it wasn't i think once was enough i didn't see it like three times.
Bluefie or or yeah and pouchy yeah that was also it was funny but when that

(41:48):
kind of when that plant came up later and then i kind of didn't that wasn't
as effective for me absolutely not no no no no look we could be all right i'm
going to say this movie is weaker than inside out,
it's still one of the stronger sequels they've had but it is still a weaker,
imitation of inside out i completely agree i mean it's the same exact film right

(42:10):
you know it's not it's like they're like oh let's just put them in the dark
recesses of riley's mind and they have to wait make their way back and then
the ending of the film is the same is that we have to balance each other out
so it's not like they added anything new to the commentary they just put new emotions in there.
So it's a little upsetting because it's like, oh, I've completely seen this

(42:31):
film and I'm not really getting anything new.
I'm just getting a little bit of an older Riley and I'm getting emotions that
I can connect with and I probably feel more deeply in my life.
But it's such a shame because also, Bing Bong was such a great character and
his whole thing got complete.
His arc is, it's really beautiful and it's really metaphorical.

(42:51):
But bluefie and pouchy they're just there
to make sure that they can get out like they're
literally just there to sacrifice this for the story there is no
bing bong moment in this film that's i
think where i kind of was like a little bit like
that sucks like the whole point of like the bing bong
moment is so deep it's so cutting and the

(43:13):
fact that like this film didn't have it was just disappointing it
just it really bummed me out and yeah and
i was like kind of just waiting i was waiting for like kind of that emotional gut punch
that i just never got yeah i
mean i think that the best thing about the
movie was anxiety and all the different things that
she was making riley's subconscious do like she was making my riley's imagination

(43:36):
work over time and come up with like all these different scenarios right which
was great i think i mean yeah they they they understood anxiety like the anxiety
like the panic attack yeah like that was another great visual representation
of like anxiety just going crazy trying to just like do everything right Right.
Because I feel like a lot of people have experienced a moment like this.
And I think I don't know if we need to do so many emotions.

(43:58):
I think anxiety would have probably been just enough and maybe just have the
emotions that we already do have right now.
Maybe they themselves also start to turn and, you know, pick sides with anxiety and stuff. Right.
Like there was opportunity here to write a stronger script that we didn't that
we didn't do. and instead we just packed everything.

(44:21):
The script with like a lot of characters that we just i don't know if
we needed yeah you know i think though
yeah i would agree with that and i also think that
one of the strongest aspects of it was the sense
of self that anxiety ended up creating which is
anxiety tries her best to get
riley's goal of becoming like the best hockey player but she makes terrible decisions

(44:42):
like she i you know alienates herself
from her friends she stops like being truthful to
who she is she tries to sneak into the coaches
she does she successfully sneaks in the coach's room to
read her notes about her and she
pushes herself too far and this all results in
a backfire which is now riley's telling herself that she's not good enough and

(45:04):
that she's not a good person right and that there i thought was like yeah this
is great like i agree that they added in all these other things that you know
were purely just like convenient you know story things to like get them
back to the the headquarters or just to have
other things other than anxiety happening but you
didn't need all those things maybe embarrassment but that's

(45:26):
it like it felt a little
it felt a little been there
done that and then it just didn't hit as hard because whenever i felt those
emotions in this movie i was like okay i've already felt down the first one
and i felt a little bit stronger but again everything with anxiety did work
so yeah anxiety was the strongest This new new player played by Maya Hawk.

(45:49):
Yeah. Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman theme. I wonder why a lot of them didn't come back.
Oh, I could tell you why. Tell me. So Amy Poehler was signed on to the role
with a five million dollar contract. Everybody else.
Ten thousand dollars. And Mindy Kaling and Bill Hader were just like,

(46:11):
fuck that shit and did not come back for the role.
Ten thousand dollars ten thousand dollars i think oh.
Oh i'm sorry a hundred thousand dollars initially the
ten thousand dollars they both were paid for the first
film which we know was a juggernaut in
terms of money making so they were offered a

(46:33):
hundred thousand dollars but i'm guessing looking you know
comparing that to like you know the five million
that amy poehler was getting and granted amy poehler is the lead
so maybe they don't need to match that but
bill hader who played fear and
mindy kaling who played uh disgust in
the original film well they had bigger roles in this one so you know they should

(46:59):
have gotten a pay bump and they are bigger names now also so yeah but but lewis
black came back phyllis smith came back and then we had some new castmates.
100 000 is insulting yeah it
is a little bit right like you know especially for let's be
real for mindy hailing like i think mindy hailing does have a distinct voice

(47:21):
because the one who replaced her lisa lapri
or something uh liza lapira she
did not come close to like having that same voice tony hale who i do like i
also don't think delivered fear as well as uh bill hater did like when bill

(47:41):
hater delivered bill hater you could sense like that that terror in his voice,
that comes from like nonsensical terror right like that terror that
we feel that's just like this this makes no sense but
we're still scared tony hale just didn't have that kind of delivery
and again i like tony hale i i love buster from arrested
development and yes and and from veep so

(48:02):
that was you know that's just
that so yeah so that's why they that's
why these castmates it was because of uh pay dispute
i guess and i think it's kind of i mean
here's my unpopular opinion but
like i don't know if amy poehler deserves five million
dollars either i love amy poehler but i do think that hollywood going for like

(48:29):
named celebrities to do voice acting is really hurting animation as a genre
not even a genre i'm sorry as a form as a as like a.
As it's not a genre it's a medium and i don't think i think you know it would
be great if hollywood studios animation studios return to hiring voice actors

(48:52):
and not just personalities,
yeah well it's pixar that started that i feel like with toy story having tom hanks,
who was you know he was still one of the biggest actors but in the 90s was like
the biggest actor and Tim Allen, all those noticeable guys.
It was unique then. But now you go and you see any trailer for some like schmaltzy

(49:13):
fucking DreamWorks movie and you see like 10 famous people's names on top of each other.
And it's like, this isn't working for me anymore. The Lion King had James Earl
Jones and Jeremy Irons. And I remember though, like it weren't in the marketing
material, but it was definitely part of the marketing of the film in terms of
like the presses releases.
Right, but James Earl Jones is not Tom Hanks.

(49:36):
Is he quite the household name that tom hanks everyone loves
is jeremy irons and maybe jeremy irons less so but i think that i think casting
in terms of like getting like names for actors sure i i think when we got tom
hanks and uh and tim allen right because don't don't describe the tim at the
time tim allen was like a star yeah tim allen home improvement yeah so.

(49:58):
Yeah like i'm just saying it's just like it's it's something for sure that disney
has been responsible for yeah well robin williams was in aladdin but he was
like the biggest name there it wasn't like 10 plus but they promoted the shit
out of him and robin williams.
Had it really they had like very contentious
contracts robin williams and disney for aladdin i think

(50:20):
we talked about on the podcast yeah he was quite unhappy and then
he never wanted to work with them again afterwards i i know i
don't i think it had something to do with promotional or whatever exactly it had
to do with the promotions how they were going to use the genie yeah
i mean i would agree with that you know the
classic age of disney films you don't know any of those people and i
mean i think that some of the best performances are from those early early films

(50:41):
the woman who plays ursula is freaking iconic
i forget her name but she's not a very well-known
actress but she delivered and that's what
matters the guy who did hook you know like a lot
of those old characters they were just they were
fantastic and they really embodied the character you don't
really need maya hawk for this i don't know like you

(51:03):
don't need io edibiri either you don't i
mean i thought for that role because it was just like girl i guess
get you a hundred thousand dollars but yeah get
the money but like i you know you
did nothing with that essentially not your fault she did
a little bit more in the mutant teenage mutant turtles one
but um i don't know i would

(51:24):
agree with you and i just i think that a lot of these animation movies
too like the selling point being the actors who
do the voicing is not working for me anymore essentially like
it's not getting me to go there and i don't care and also look at minions
the highest selling i think animation franchise
after toy story or before toy story at this point it's you.
Know steve carell's grew yeah sure but those minions oh yeah.

(51:46):
They're the stars yeah they're the real stars i don't.
Know who's making the voices but uh according to
the atlantic the yeah the the point where
we started going for voice actors to start having
some fame uh like having a name behind the actors is aladdin
with rob williams and then from there
we will start seeing more and more of these like celebrity names attached to

(52:09):
movies and yeah sure pixar getting tom hanks and tom tim allen is sure i'm sure
kind of just like set forth the it broke open the wall i mean look at i mean
look at dreamworks when they got Mike Myers,
Eddie Murphy, and Cameron Diaz.
Can I imagine that film without that roster of talent? It's hard.

(52:34):
It's really hard but i think it's not
impossible yeah but then
when we covered the adams family did any of
those people who were hired add anything to the film you know
well when we did the grinch when we did uh super mario brothers yeah uh right
like so that there in lies the issue where you and that's to say that all of

(53:00):
hollywood's voice actors can't don't have
anything to bring like sometimes you do sometimes having maybe that one star
play a role just fits for these characters i'm thinking like hercules and james gun not gun james,
who who played hades.

(53:21):
Oh my gosh yeah i know it's james wood james
wood james great great casting right and then you build
the entire personality off of that delivery well they also
did have though what's his name danny devito as
you know philatelies so i don't know i
sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't i think over relying
on on celebrity names is is a misstep so while mindy kaling and bill hater were

(53:45):
great in their roles like give that they were replaceable they were replaceable
they didn't have the same effect but like i think it would have been stronger
a better idea if we you start having like real voice talent, right?
Like the EG dailies, like where, you know, where's her, where's her animated film.

(54:05):
This is true, yeah. Like Dan Castellaneta or something.
Sure, from The Simpsons? Yeah. I love him. I think he's a great voice.
He's good. He's good. Like, we have some good ones, right?
That's why, I mean, I love Bob's Burger, right? But all those,
none of them were famous.
So when they had the movie, though, like, hearing them on the big screen,
like, these distinct personalities and stuff. But, like, those are characters, actors.

(54:29):
As far as I know, I don't know how much voice acting they've done outside of
those roles. I know that H.
John Hamm has done Archer I think he did Archer first I don't know about the
other ones I don't know the comedian who plays Tina is he going to be can he
do anything else no probably not,
yeah yeah the whole thing is built around his unique voice right exactly but

(54:51):
yeah but I guess what I'm trying to say is just like this the movie Inside Out
2 is definitely part of that problem just like we just have celebrities.
Doing voice work and stuff and like yeah the green paid all this money that's
great but like you know we could,
this is something that voice actors would be better
suited for absolutely i agree although you

(55:13):
know it didn't stop people from seeing it this movie
had a similar budget to the first one it
was 200 million this time instead of 175 million but as
of today june's not over yet and this movie came out in june 10th it's grossed
762 million dollars at the box office is very close to what the original film
did it's pretty crazy how well this it did better than dune part two i think

(55:36):
well yeah but i think people are starved for like something to go to the movies to,
you know i i guess so yeah and i guess this was it okay what you know garfield
massively underperformed for a family movie over the summer furiosa massively
underperformed i but we kind of and you suspected Furioso was going to underperform.

(56:00):
Yeah i suppose so i don't think i
i really don't think that it was not a
it was not a strong bet that it was going to do well in my
opinion but yeah but garfield no no but the reason i bring up garfield because
usually family movies do pretty well especially in the summer and garfield flopped
hard no one has talked about garfield as opposed to at least inside out you

(56:24):
know again and And this is only going to reinforce that wrong message for Hollywood.
But like now, what Disney is going to see is just like, oh, the sequel worked.
We need to keep making more sequels.
It's true. It is kind of like, it's great to see, but it's also kind of like,
yeah, the message that they're going to take from that is going to be a bad one.

(56:46):
I think that seeing that the kung fu
panda 2 i mean kung fu panda 4 sorry 4 before
and the godzilla and kong also being among the highest
grossing movies of the year is also showing that its franchises well denise
villeneuve did say it's just like i am disappointed that june 2 was up until

(57:08):
like a few weeks ago the highest grossing movie of the year yeah you know now
Now it's Inside Out 2, yeah.
And now it's Inside Out 2. But, like, I don't know. I mean, the state of,
like, you're saying here, like, Inside Out 2, will it save Cinebob? No. No way.
I mean, I'm not saying that, but it saved the box office for sure.
Like, it was not a good box office here. I think the deficit is still pretty big, isn't it?

(57:31):
In worldwide or American? American. American, it did very well.
I mean, I think that. No, no, no. I meant, like, the total, right?
Like, our numbers, right? We're comparing these to last year's numbers because
each year there's been a steady decline of gross revenue from theaters.
And let me tell you why. I had the worst experience when I went to the fucking

(57:54):
movie theaters to see this movie. I sat next to a lady.
It was a couple. It was a couple who brought their two, one toddler child and one baby. Baby.
Okay. and this fucking lady
was filming her kid
watching the movie so i had the the

(58:16):
the bright light of her phone as she's filming her baby watch inside out too
and then she lets the toddler just run around the toddler comes and tries to
take my popcorn this i was just like this i never are you i never want to come
back to the yeah i gay i wanted to if i wasn't at a kid's movie i would
have been anger would have taken over i would have been screaming at this couple

(58:38):
all right because the movie etiquette in this country has just gone to shit
and you know what take the fucking
movie theater industry with you because i'm done with it i can't wow,
that is pretty terrible i mean that though is like.
A very unique experience no it's not it is

(58:59):
not that's the thing it is not every i
feel like every time i have gone to the movie theaters the etiquette has
just gotten worse and worse and i know that this is a kid's movie and i should
have expected kids but my god brain in your children brain in your children
there's nowhere i would let my toddler just run around trying to take other
people's popcorn yeah that's shame on you parent shame on you they didn't interject no No,

(59:23):
because they were busy fucking filming their fucking baby watching Inside Out.
Thank God. The baby at no point really cried. I was ready to go pull a Karen
and go tell security and be like, you need to get this family out of here or give me a refund.
Yeah, I would have just gotten that fucking refund, man. That's crazy.
Maybe I should have. Maybe it's also the theater you're going to.

(59:47):
No. No, I think this is indicative of just movie theaters in general.
Yeah. well needless to
say movie theaters are not this isn't gonna like completely
change everything in that in that sense movies are
still down since the pandemic but there's
so many reasons for that with streaming with movies becoming

(01:00:07):
available within like a month after being in
theaters and also with the prices like you can't blame
people well i know disney's trying to put a end to that right like inside
out 2 is not going to be available on streaming for at least 100 days is what
disney had announced not really so they're
trying to get people back into the theaters right and that's a smart move
i think if the goal of the studios

(01:00:28):
is to get asses in theaters you know like you mentioned one of the things that
prohibits that is knowing if i could just wait i'll wait a month and i have
it i'll stream it at home well if i have to stream if i have to wait longer
maybe now that incentivizes me to go to the theater to check it out.
True. You know? Yeah. So at least studios are thinking about this.

(01:00:54):
And Inside Out just happens to be a good movie to do this with because it is a family movie.
And, you know, it's Pixar. Like, the worst Pixar movie is still probably better
than, like, the best movie.
824 movie i don't know just like
a more at least more enjoyable does that
make sense like yeah like 824 is they're great

(01:01:17):
are they movies i want to see all the time no give me
a inside out three and i'll probably want to watch that
over an 824 film that's true i mean
i'd still very much enjoyed my experience i saw
like a matinee on a sunday it was packed and my
movie theater experience was good as opposed
to yours i don't believe you to be honest i think that you're were blocking out

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all the negativity that comes with like the movie theater experience you know
i want to ask your girlfriend because i feel like she has the real tea of like
what happens to these theaters and how we've i mean we've had bad experiences
i remember having a bad one for haunted mansion i was like it's fucking in the
middle of the day on a tuesday this is ridiculous.
But no i don't remember one for inside out too but yeah go ahead you could ask her,

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i will i i still enjoyed it and i do think this was
a nice return to form for pixar it's nice to
see them making something that hits instead of
just like it's okay uh yeah i mean look it's i think it's just okay but it's
better than some of the it definitely was my the of the sequels they've had
it's definitely been my favorite one not counting the toy story trilogy original

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yeah i think i like finding dory finding i loved it way more i did not like finding dory at all,
and The Incredibles 2 which was fine but like it was just not as good as the
original yeah no absolutely this was better than Toy Story 4 I really didn't
like Toy Story 4 I haven't seen it yet it's not but I kind of don't want to
watch it because like why am I going to go revisit like

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exactly it was completely unnecessary and they took the story in a direction
they didn't need to so but there's going to be a Toy Story 5 so there is yeah
which is ridiculous there is a Toy Story 5 I think there's also a Ratatouille 2 in the works,
i didn't see the ad but that would be maybe i'm making that up maybe i think you are.

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But i don't think it's one of the only properties that doesn't have a sequel
so i don't think they have any upcoming like original movies they do they have
a movie next year coming out called ilio but then it's story story five okay
all right what do we know about ilio it's about a boy who
gets accidentally sent to, like, outer space and he becomes the ambassador for humans.

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But it's also actually a predominantly Hispanic cast, so that's nice.
No, it doesn't seem like it's going to interest me. It'll interest Eddie, for sure.
Yes, this sounds very much up Eddie's alley. So you'll be seeing it.
Probably, yeah. I'll probably end up watching it, but... Nice.
Well, guys, what do you think? Are you a big fan of Pixar? Are you a fan of

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i'm gonna nicole make
this a social media clip i want to hear from you i
want to hear your horror stories from the
movie theater experience because i'm done
and i'm going to begin a campaign for change what
is that campaign going to be you know based upon burn it

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all down that's the platform that's that's
the platform burn it all or we need to like start
imposing fines on people who just have
bad etiquette you know bring back
bans or something maybe maybe you just need to go to alamo
draft house they do not tolerate that where the hell is
there an alamo draft house around here i don't

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know if there's any in new jersey but then why the fuck would you recommend
that nicole how is that
helpful if there were an alamo draft house i would
sure check it out but there is it they're in new york i'm not gonna go i'm not
gonna go to ratchet jersey city newport mall where the fucking rats have taken

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refuge all right because that's
why that that theater was closed for a while because of all the rats.
Yeah all right well seacock is not that much better oh it's not it's no longer
carousels this is it's regal it's now regal yeah yeah so it's had sold had sold
it and it's now regal i don't know
what that means for it but i'm kind of bummed out i did like carousels.

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Yeah i don't know if you'll have your tuesdays anymore no
i feel like all theaters kind of do that i hope so like amc has like a tuesday
i think it must it has to be an accounting thing for the studios so like it's
just try to fill in as many seats before they had to submit your numbers i think on like wednesday,

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So that's my guess. Your guess is as good as mine. But all right.
I need to lay down. I need to.
Yeah. What emotion is working your gears right now?
Disgust. Because I'm grossed out by my own sickness.
Yeah. Maybe. Or fear. Because we were talking about the movie experience.

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Well, that's what's always going, apparently. That's who's in control of you. Generally.
All right. right well i shall see you guys later and guys we'll catch you in
two weeks for the next episode as always stay unoriginal and enjoy your.