June 5, 2024 • 23 mins
Moneke Fields introduces Nina Robert, who shares her background in management and coaching. They discuss the importance of setting and achieving goals, the power of deciding what you truly want, and the three types of goals: A, B, and C. Nina explains how to understand and overcome paradigms, redesign your self-image, and apply universal principles for success. Nina's favorite story of progress and success wraps up the episode.
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Are you ready to unlock your full Markablysimple.
The podcast dedicated to helping you do justthat.
I'm Monique Fields, and I believe that with theright strategies, anyone can achieve remarkable
results.
Whether you're a seasoned leader or juststarting a business, this podcast is your guide
(00:22):
to achieving your goals with and efficiency.
Let's embark on this journey together and makesuccess.
Hello, everyone.
It's Monique Fields here.
Welcome back to another episode of remarkablysimple.
I am very excited to introduce you to NinaRobert.
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Nina is a success and mindset coach.
A PGI consultant in her own company successcatalyst.
She is also also the author of 2 great books,the first book, clean up your life, And the
second one called mindset fitness forentrepreneurs, she wrote and published in 6
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weeks.
So I'm very excited to introduce and have aconversation with you.
Thanks so much for joining me, Nina, Robert.
Thank you so much inviting me, Moneke, andhello to everyone who's listening to us.
So my name is Nina Roberts.
I'm from Paris.
I am a success in mindset coach.
And I specialize in helping people set up andachieve high goals.
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That is fantastic.
And one of my favorite Moneke.
So I'm really excited.
1st, to talk about what got you started.
What is it about your background or yourparticular interest that got you set up to be
helping people working with achieving highgoals.
Well, I have a background in management, so Iworked for, IT Multinational Companies for over
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a decade as project manager and then as amanager.
And when you manage, people, you have to learncoaching.
You have to learn how to understand each one'spoints of view.
You have to understand the challenges, theparadigms that are going on inside everyone's
head, and you have to understand, and acquiresome problem solving skills.
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Which I did, which was very enriching for me,on a personal and professional level.
And eventually, I, discovered that I have thissubconscious tendency to coach everyone without
even noticing without even becoming, beingaware of it.
So every time a friend of mine or, a colleaguewill come with the challenge or problem or
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asking for advice, I would immediately startthinking about, solving their problems,
teaching them, tips and tricks and giving themsolutions.
And then, holding them accountable and,following them, following up with them on,
whether what are they doing to to manage thesethese challenges, asking them to set up goals
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because I love goals.
I love setting up goals.
But I'll what I love most is achieving them.
Mhmm.
I can attest to that.
It is a very rewarding when you can accomplishsomething that you set out to do.
And I share your enthusiasm for sharing someoneelse along and coaching someone else along and
doing that.
Speaking of loving to set and achieve goals, Iwonder if you can relate or recall any
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particular challenges or setback that you hadin this area that ultimately helped you develop
the strength that you have now in setting andachieving your own goals and helping others to
do the same.
Well, I guess the main challenge for me and formany other people is that we, hardly ask
ourselves what do we really want So setting upthe right goal is the main challenge for most
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people.
Some people know exactly what they want, andthey either go after it or not.
That's that's another thing.
Setting up goals and achieving them are 2totally different things, but managing to find
the right goal, that's a challenge.
And for me, I didn't actually dare ask myself,what do I really want?
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Until just a few years ago.
Mhmm.
I hear what you mean about this.
You know, it's like an unspoken element herethat sometimes the difficulty that we're having
in staying motivated or, doing the work that ittakes to achieve a particular goal is that we
haven't actually identified what it is reallywant in the first place.
So we're not aligned to the work that we'redoing.
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And I love that you share how it can be,intimidating perhaps to ask yourself the
question, what do I really want?
And I love that you share this sort ofvulnerability that until a few years ago, you
didn't even do this yourself.
What what made you change?
Start asking yourself that question.
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I would say more awareness of the fact that Ican actually do whatever I want to do if and
only if I want it badly enough.
Mhmm.
I don't think I actually wanted something thatbad before.
And once I became aware that I actually havethe power to decide what I want and to go after
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it and achieve it, I started asking the rightquestions, and it's amazing.
The amount of ideas that you have in yoursubconscious mind that are hidden, I would say
just outside your comfort zone.
So for me, it was taking a peek at at what'sout there.
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And once you see what's out there, it's, youcan never come back.
Yeah.
I hear you.
So getting a taste of adventure, so to speak,then, you're hungry for more.
So You have this area of expertise and you helppeople to achieve their goals.
What do you say is it that you teach most ofthe people that you work with?
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That helps them learn to find success inaccomplishing these big things.
So since we're we're already talking aboutgoals, I teach that This is the most, important
part of the journey deciding and setting up theright goal.
There are 3 types of goals The first type,let's call them ABC to keep it simple.
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The first type, a goal is what everyone thinksthey think they can do.
So it's the simple thing, like the next car,the next, little nicer house, a promotion,
something they can figure out.
But it's not something that will help you grow.
So it's probably not the best goal for you orfor anybody.
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It's it's it's nice to have, but it's not, itshouldn't be your live goal or your live
purpose.
B type goal, the second type is something thatyou know you can achieve if you have the right
resources.
If you have, like, a particular plan or acertain amount of Moneke, and you can say,
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like, if I get this and that, that I would beable to achieve it.
That's b type goal.
It's more interesting than a type goal, butstill, not going to allow you to grow outside
your comfort zone.
So we want something scary.
We want something big that's called the C typeAnd the C type goal is just something that you
want and you want so much that you are fallingin love with the idea.
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You're emotionally involved.
But you have no idea how to get there, andyou've never done it before.
These are the prerequisites.
Assess that you predict or anticipate whenyou're helping individuals identify the right
goal is in whether or not it's making your hairstand Right?
Like, is there just a little bit of excitementbuilt into it?
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Exactly.
Yeah.
Of your comfort zone.
I get that.
And, you know, what do you notice about workingwith people with this?
Are there challenges that you see withindividuals sort of being willing to move away
from the a type through the B type up to the Ctype goals?
Yes.
Absolutely.
First of all, we're not, used to dream big.
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That's that's a big thing.
That's a big problem.
We usually are content and satisfied with whatwe have, and we actually have been taught to be
that way.
We've always been told to be content and begrateful for what you for what you have.
I would say always be grateful for what youhave, but never be content.
Because whatever you're doing, you canabsolutely do much better.
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Whatever it is that you're doing, you canabsolutely do much better.
That's that's universal.
That's universal law.
The main challenge is called the paradigm.
The paradigm is the part of us in oursubconscious mind that's controlling most of
our behavior, most of our attitude, andespecially all of our actions.
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I would say 97% of our actions are controlledby this paradigm.
Paradigm is like a set of configurations in ourmind software.
And that is learned or accumulated through ourgenes.
We we've inherited certain, certain paradigms,certain limiting beliefs, for example, through
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our environment to what everybody else isprojecting, on us as ideas, limiting beliefs,
as traditions, as culture, everything aroundthis is, makes our paradigm what it is.
So the paradigm is the comfort zone as well.
And it's subconscious.
So you're not even aware that it's there, butit's preventing you from taking action, from
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trying this something new that you want todrive, from traveling by yourself, for example,
or for buying that house that you've alwayswanted.
It wants to keep you in the comfort zone.
I think the intention is good.
It wants to protect you from what's unknown,but you know what's unknown is what you want.
So you have to always be aware of it.
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I love the, the illustration here, and it makesme think about something that I, for the
majority of my professional life, especiallyduring the times that I was a leader, talking
with teams that I managed and led about what Icall autopilot.
That sometimes we're not even aware of youknow, the patterns, and we are definitely not
taking time to be curious or wonder what mightbe perhaps a a more optimal, you know, outcome
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or a a better process because we're just soprogrammed.
And I think the the trick of the subconsciousmind, it's a gift that it learns and it, is
very good at maintaining the usual pattern.
Sometimes when I'm talking with people, I'mencouraging them to realize that they are
separate.
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I say all the time you are not your mind.
Yeah.
The patterns in your mind, the thinking in yourmind, the usual ways of being in your mind are
not the essence of who you are, that you havethe ability to observe those patterns.
And, there's so much power.
And I don't wanna get carried away because Iwanna ask you another question and talk with
you about how you help individuals navigatewhen you're noticing this tendency toward what
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some people call homeostasis or just defaultingto the patterns that are in your subconscious
mind.
You mentioned limiting beliefs for instance andhow sometimes we, find ourselves back to an
example that you mentioned, not willing totravel, not willing to travel unless we're
going with a group or, staying within a realmof certain types of activities that we've been
exposed to all along.
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How do you help people navigate noticing andfinding their way out of those those types of
patterns?
I will start with something, amazing called theself image.
The self image is the image that we have ofourselves.
And again, it is subconscious.
So most of it, we don't even know what's inthere, but it's controlling everything that we
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think we can or cannot do.
Everything we think that we choose or we want.
The self image is also the way we project selfto, ourselves to to whoever is around us, to,
to the world, the way we speak, the way we act,the way we talk, the way we walk, So the self
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image is, interesting in a way that if weconsciously bring it out, like, analyze it and
observe it, we have the power to change it.
And this means that you have the power todesign your own self image design exactly what
this person should, look like, should talklike, should should re like.
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And you can actually do it yourself.
Like, you can recreate your self image and thenbecome that person.
So once you set up a goal, you know that yourbest future version of yourself is the one
who's accomplished the goal.
Right?
So you have to become that person.
And once you become that person, the thingsthat this person, have or do or, whatever that
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you wanna do with with your goal, they willcome to you.
So unless and until you become that person,you'll not be able to achieve that goal easily.
But once you become that person, once you learnhow to know that person more and become them.
Everything is easy and everything will come toyou, like, as smoothly and as easily as as you
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can even imagine.
That is, I think, one of the most valuablethings I've learned.
So I really love this, reference that you maketo becoming acquainted with that future.
Identity, the one that has accomplished thegoal that you've established.
Yep.
And one of the things that I coach people to dois to visit that place often, to get physically
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connected to it.
And it takes quite a lot of imagination.
Some people call it visualization, but I thinkwhen you can activate all of your imagination,
the sights, the sounds, the smells of what itis like to be operating there, it's easier to
bring that identity to the present.
To think as if you were already in that place.
I think when folks talk about this, it soundslike such a you know, a spooky concept.
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When in actuality, it's it's more of what wetypically call Moneke projection but in the
positive, right?
I am projecting.
This is who I am because it's who I will be,and so I'm choosing now to operate.
From that place.
And that is so very empowering because as youjust described, it gives you the opportunity to
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create what you choose as opposed to just beingat the effect of whatever's around you.
Mhmm.
Yes.
Indeed.
So, I think that this is just very interestingand strikes so many great chords that perhaps
we could go down all of the little alleys anddiscuss the nuances here, but I wonder, when
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you give individuals advice about theprofessional work that they're doing or perhaps
they have personal goals that they're settingfor themselves, I have this idea that there's a
there's a sort of commonality to it all that itit to some degree.
It doesn't even matter whether you're workingon a financial or a personal goal or a
relationship goal that the principles ofprogress and success are really consistent
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across, you know, all things.
So I'm curious about what you what basic, butfirst advice would you give to everyone?
There there's not a person that we could meetwho maybe wouldn't be able to take this advice
and apply it and see a better outcome andwhatever is their priority at the time.
What would you say is that advice?
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I would say that any person has the ability tochoose their thoughts.
That is very powerful.
And we, tend to get trapped inside our our headinside our thoughts.
And usually we get anxiety, we get stressbecause we keep living in our imagination, but
we keep living the worst case scenario.
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Right?
So like preparing for an exam or parent for ajob interview or, a conflict that's that's
about to happen or that email that I have torespond to.
I'm living inside my head.
I'm just projecting into the worst casescenario.
But instead, I have the power to accept,reject, or ignore any idea that I want.
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So if someone's telling me something that isnot serving me, just projecting their
negativity on me, I can choose to ignore,change the subject, or reject the idea, say
that's interesting, but don't get emotionallyinvolved with it or accept it if it's going to
serve you.
I think this is
the best advice I can give anyone.
Yeah.
I love the, the suggestion there that justbecause the idea presents in your head,
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it
doesn't have to be true.
I meet I meet with a lot of people who arehaving, entire exchanges on their own.
Right?
They're imagining what the the person thinks,how they feel, what they believe, what they're
going to do, and to your point, projecting theworst case scenario when, You know, it's also
very healthy to say what else could be true.
And I love this point that you made.
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But how does it serve you?
Right?
When you think this particular perspective,Does that help or hurt you as it relates to
getting toward your goal?
Because to your point, you have the power tochoose your perspective.
And I think that takes practice, right, beingable to regularly ask yourself that question
and and choose in the way that's mostproductive.
It does.
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Yeah.
It takes a lot of practice, but awareness iscontagious.
Like, once you have it, there's no coming back.
You become more and more aware of all yourthoughts throughout your day.
But we, as human beings, we have, like, agazillion thoughts every day.
So it's not obvious to keep track of everythought that's not possible, but we can always
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keep track of our mood, our emotions, ourFields, the way we Fields, like, whenever I'm
thinking something that is not serving me, Iwill immediately start to feel bad or start to
feel anxious or frustrated or at least notinterested or not motivated.
So I just have to switch the feeling.
You have to love for a few minutes, have totake a walk, get some air, talk to friends,
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read a good book.
And as soon as I get my feelings, on a highervibration or a higher frequency, I'm
immediately thinking better thoughts.
And then taking better actions.
Exactly.
I love this pre I've never heard it said thisway.
Awareness is contagious, not from person toperson, but One really healthy practice that I
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love to encourage people to do is to pick 1 ofthe important areas of their life, one area of
focus, and intentionally practice there.
Being aware and doing exactly what you justdescribed, monitoring your feelings, your
emotions, your responses, Just the power ofnoticing in one area, it tends to spread, like
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a contagious sort of situation except it's areally positive thing so that there's not
necessary work to do in every area But instead,all of the other areas are benefited because of
the one specific place that an individual ispracticing.
So I'm gonna hang on to this You've coined thephrase awareness is contagious.
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Maybe somebody else said it, but I heard itfrom you.
I love it.
So I think all of this is so fascinating.
And, obviously, as I said earlier, there are somany channels that we could go down.
And you've written 2 great books to help us,you know, make progress in in areas of our life
that we're focused on.
So I wonder where you would tell people to findyou.
Where should they, come Fields out more andfollow Nina Robert?
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So, they can find my, website, Nina RobertCoaching.com.
They can find find me on social media, alwaysin Robert or in Robert Coaching.
My two books are called, Cleanup Your Life AndMind Fitness for Entrepreneurs, and both are in
English and available on Amazon.
That is wonderful.
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So before we go, I wanna ask one more question,and that would be if you could share with us a
favorite story of progress, success, oraccomplishment from yourself or somebody that
you've worked with, implementing this practiceof awareness and, just attention to goals.
So tell tell me what you've got.
I wanna hear a a good one.
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Yeah.
I have a good one.
I started with quote for my, mentor Bob Proctorwho said, if you can see it in your head, you
can hold it in your head.
And I love that quote, but I kept looking forways to manifest it.
To see it happen, it it sounds amazing andeasy.
And I was asking myself, like, what's thecatch?
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Does it is it that easy?
If I can just hold it the idea in my head, Ican hold something in my head in my hand that
is a realization of my goal.
And, there opportunity gave, presented itselfto to me, last February when I hosted an event
5 day challenge event that I called MindFitness for Entrepreneurs.
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And I was preparing some content to present tomy clients during this event.
At the end of the the the week, I I had, like,enough content to start a draft for a first
book.
And I said, okay.
This is this is the the opportunity for me totest that.
If I can hold the idea in my mind, I can maybehold the the book in my hand.
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And I gave myself 6 weeks, that was a very,difficult deadline, very short, and I gave
myself a daily goal of writing a 1000 words.
As simple as that, to keep myself disciplinedand accountable, At the end of the 6 weeks, the
book was published on Amazon at the thing wasin my head.
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I love that you mentioned the inspiration thatyou took from your mentor, Bob Proctor.
I've heard that phrase that he says.
If you can see it, in your head.
You can hold it in your hand.
But even more than that, I loved how you sharedsome practical bits in there as well because
you set a daily goal for yourself.
Mhmm.
And at the end of 6 weeks, you looked back andit was accomplished.
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Yeah.
That's important.
To stay at home.
That is so fantastic.
Yes.
Because I don't wake up every day supermotivated to do whatever I have to do.
Right?
So when motivation is not there, that has to bedisciplined, and I have to keep the to hold
myself accountable.
This is what I did.
Yes.
And I think writing or in whatever way youexpress daily attention to that goal is
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absolutely giving you what you need the tool tohold yourself accountable.
Even when motivation, someone just said this,when motivation doesn't show up, that's when
you need discipline.
Right?
It's just not always going to be there.
Nina, this has been a very quick conversationbut so fascinating and, hopefully enriching to
everybody who listens.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
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And thank you for inviting me.
Thank you, Monique.
Are you ready to unlock your full Markablysimple.
The podcast dedicated to helping you do justthat.
I'm Monique Fields, and I believe that with theright strategies, anyone can achieve remarkable
results.
Whether you're a seasoned leader or juststarting a business, this podcast is your guide
(00:22):
to achieving your goals with and efficiency.
Let's embark on this journey together and makesuccess.
Hello, everyone.
It's Monique Fields here.
Welcome back to another episode of remarkablysimple.
I am very excited to introduce you to NinaRobert.
(00:44):
Nina is a success and mindset coach.
A PGI consultant in her own company successcatalyst.
She is also also the author of 2 great books,the first book, clean up your life, And the
second one called mindset fitness forentrepreneurs, she wrote and published in 6
(01:06):
weeks.
So I'm very excited to introduce and have aconversation with you.
Thanks so much for joining me, Nina, Robert.
Thank you so much inviting me, Moneke, andhello to everyone who's listening to us.
So my name is Nina Roberts.
I'm from Paris.
I am a success in mindset coach.
And I specialize in helping people set up andachieve high goals.
(01:30):
That is fantastic.
And one of my favorite Moneke.
So I'm really excited.
1st, to talk about what got you started.
What is it about your background or yourparticular interest that got you set up to be
helping people working with achieving highgoals.
Well, I have a background in management, so Iworked for, IT Multinational Companies for over
(01:55):
a decade as project manager and then as amanager.
And when you manage, people, you have to learncoaching.
You have to learn how to understand each one'spoints of view.
You have to understand the challenges, theparadigms that are going on inside everyone's
head, and you have to understand, and acquiresome problem solving skills.
(02:21):
Which I did, which was very enriching for me,on a personal and professional level.
And eventually, I, discovered that I have thissubconscious tendency to coach everyone without
even noticing without even becoming, beingaware of it.
So every time a friend of mine or, a colleaguewill come with the challenge or problem or
(02:45):
asking for advice, I would immediately startthinking about, solving their problems,
teaching them, tips and tricks and giving themsolutions.
And then, holding them accountable and,following them, following up with them on,
whether what are they doing to to manage thesethese challenges, asking them to set up goals
(03:08):
because I love goals.
I love setting up goals.
But I'll what I love most is achieving them.
Mhmm.
I can attest to that.
It is a very rewarding when you can accomplishsomething that you set out to do.
And I share your enthusiasm for sharing someoneelse along and coaching someone else along and
doing that.
Speaking of loving to set and achieve goals, Iwonder if you can relate or recall any
(03:34):
particular challenges or setback that you hadin this area that ultimately helped you develop
the strength that you have now in setting andachieving your own goals and helping others to
do the same.
Well, I guess the main challenge for me and formany other people is that we, hardly ask
ourselves what do we really want So setting upthe right goal is the main challenge for most
(03:59):
people.
Some people know exactly what they want, andthey either go after it or not.
That's that's another thing.
Setting up goals and achieving them are 2totally different things, but managing to find
the right goal, that's a challenge.
And for me, I didn't actually dare ask myself,what do I really want?
(04:21):
Until just a few years ago.
Mhmm.
I hear what you mean about this.
You know, it's like an unspoken element herethat sometimes the difficulty that we're having
in staying motivated or, doing the work that ittakes to achieve a particular goal is that we
haven't actually identified what it is reallywant in the first place.
So we're not aligned to the work that we'redoing.
(04:44):
And I love that you share how it can be,intimidating perhaps to ask yourself the
question, what do I really want?
And I love that you share this sort ofvulnerability that until a few years ago, you
didn't even do this yourself.
What what made you change?
Start asking yourself that question.
(05:05):
I would say more awareness of the fact that Ican actually do whatever I want to do if and
only if I want it badly enough.
Mhmm.
I don't think I actually wanted something thatbad before.
And once I became aware that I actually havethe power to decide what I want and to go after
(05:28):
it and achieve it, I started asking the rightquestions, and it's amazing.
The amount of ideas that you have in yoursubconscious mind that are hidden, I would say
just outside your comfort zone.
So for me, it was taking a peek at at what'sout there.
(05:48):
And once you see what's out there, it's, youcan never come back.
Yeah.
I hear you.
So getting a taste of adventure, so to speak,then, you're hungry for more.
So You have this area of expertise and you helppeople to achieve their goals.
What do you say is it that you teach most ofthe people that you work with?
(06:11):
That helps them learn to find success inaccomplishing these big things.
So since we're we're already talking aboutgoals, I teach that This is the most, important
part of the journey deciding and setting up theright goal.
There are 3 types of goals The first type,let's call them ABC to keep it simple.
(06:32):
The first type, a goal is what everyone thinksthey think they can do.
So it's the simple thing, like the next car,the next, little nicer house, a promotion,
something they can figure out.
But it's not something that will help you grow.
So it's probably not the best goal for you orfor anybody.
(06:54):
It's it's it's nice to have, but it's not, itshouldn't be your live goal or your live
purpose.
B type goal, the second type is something thatyou know you can achieve if you have the right
resources.
If you have, like, a particular plan or acertain amount of Moneke, and you can say,
(07:14):
like, if I get this and that, that I would beable to achieve it.
That's b type goal.
It's more interesting than a type goal, butstill, not going to allow you to grow outside
your comfort zone.
So we want something scary.
We want something big that's called the C typeAnd the C type goal is just something that you
want and you want so much that you are fallingin love with the idea.
(07:36):
You're emotionally involved.
But you have no idea how to get there, andyou've never done it before.
These are the prerequisites.
Assess that you predict or anticipate whenyou're helping individuals identify the right
goal is in whether or not it's making your hairstand Right?
Like, is there just a little bit of excitementbuilt into it?
(07:58):
Exactly.
Yeah.
Of your comfort zone.
I get that.
And, you know, what do you notice about workingwith people with this?
Are there challenges that you see withindividuals sort of being willing to move away
from the a type through the B type up to the Ctype goals?
Yes.
Absolutely.
First of all, we're not, used to dream big.
(08:21):
That's that's a big thing.
That's a big problem.
We usually are content and satisfied with whatwe have, and we actually have been taught to be
that way.
We've always been told to be content and begrateful for what you for what you have.
I would say always be grateful for what youhave, but never be content.
Because whatever you're doing, you canabsolutely do much better.
(08:43):
Whatever it is that you're doing, you canabsolutely do much better.
That's that's universal.
That's universal law.
The main challenge is called the paradigm.
The paradigm is the part of us in oursubconscious mind that's controlling most of
our behavior, most of our attitude, andespecially all of our actions.
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I would say 97% of our actions are controlledby this paradigm.
Paradigm is like a set of configurations in ourmind software.
And that is learned or accumulated through ourgenes.
We we've inherited certain, certain paradigms,certain limiting beliefs, for example, through
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our environment to what everybody else isprojecting, on us as ideas, limiting beliefs,
as traditions, as culture, everything aroundthis is, makes our paradigm what it is.
So the paradigm is the comfort zone as well.
And it's subconscious.
So you're not even aware that it's there, butit's preventing you from taking action, from
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trying this something new that you want todrive, from traveling by yourself, for example,
or for buying that house that you've alwayswanted.
It wants to keep you in the comfort zone.
I think the intention is good.
It wants to protect you from what's unknown,but you know what's unknown is what you want.
So you have to always be aware of it.
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I love the, the illustration here, and it makesme think about something that I, for the
majority of my professional life, especiallyduring the times that I was a leader, talking
with teams that I managed and led about what Icall autopilot.
That sometimes we're not even aware of youknow, the patterns, and we are definitely not
taking time to be curious or wonder what mightbe perhaps a a more optimal, you know, outcome
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or a a better process because we're just soprogrammed.
And I think the the trick of the subconsciousmind, it's a gift that it learns and it, is
very good at maintaining the usual pattern.
Sometimes when I'm talking with people, I'mencouraging them to realize that they are
separate.
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I say all the time you are not your mind.
Yeah.
The patterns in your mind, the thinking in yourmind, the usual ways of being in your mind are
not the essence of who you are, that you havethe ability to observe those patterns.
And, there's so much power.
And I don't wanna get carried away because Iwanna ask you another question and talk with
you about how you help individuals navigatewhen you're noticing this tendency toward what
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some people call homeostasis or just defaultingto the patterns that are in your subconscious
mind.
You mentioned limiting beliefs for instance andhow sometimes we, find ourselves back to an
example that you mentioned, not willing totravel, not willing to travel unless we're
going with a group or, staying within a realmof certain types of activities that we've been
exposed to all along.
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How do you help people navigate noticing andfinding their way out of those those types of
patterns?
I will start with something, amazing called theself image.
The self image is the image that we have ofourselves.
And again, it is subconscious.
So most of it, we don't even know what's inthere, but it's controlling everything that we
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think we can or cannot do.
Everything we think that we choose or we want.
The self image is also the way we project selfto, ourselves to to whoever is around us, to,
to the world, the way we speak, the way we act,the way we talk, the way we walk, So the self
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image is, interesting in a way that if weconsciously bring it out, like, analyze it and
observe it, we have the power to change it.
And this means that you have the power todesign your own self image design exactly what
this person should, look like, should talklike, should should re like.
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And you can actually do it yourself.
Like, you can recreate your self image and thenbecome that person.
So once you set up a goal, you know that yourbest future version of yourself is the one
who's accomplished the goal.
Right?
So you have to become that person.
And once you become that person, the thingsthat this person, have or do or, whatever that
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you wanna do with with your goal, they willcome to you.
So unless and until you become that person,you'll not be able to achieve that goal easily.
But once you become that person, once you learnhow to know that person more and become them.
Everything is easy and everything will come toyou, like, as smoothly and as easily as as you
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can even imagine.
That is, I think, one of the most valuablethings I've learned.
So I really love this, reference that you maketo becoming acquainted with that future.
Identity, the one that has accomplished thegoal that you've established.
Yep.
And one of the things that I coach people to dois to visit that place often, to get physically
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connected to it.
And it takes quite a lot of imagination.
Some people call it visualization, but I thinkwhen you can activate all of your imagination,
the sights, the sounds, the smells of what itis like to be operating there, it's easier to
bring that identity to the present.
To think as if you were already in that place.
I think when folks talk about this, it soundslike such a you know, a spooky concept.
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When in actuality, it's it's more of what wetypically call Moneke projection but in the
positive, right?
I am projecting.
This is who I am because it's who I will be,and so I'm choosing now to operate.
From that place.
And that is so very empowering because as youjust described, it gives you the opportunity to
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create what you choose as opposed to just beingat the effect of whatever's around you.
Mhmm.
Yes.
Indeed.
So, I think that this is just very interestingand strikes so many great chords that perhaps
we could go down all of the little alleys anddiscuss the nuances here, but I wonder, when
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you give individuals advice about theprofessional work that they're doing or perhaps
they have personal goals that they're settingfor themselves, I have this idea that there's a
there's a sort of commonality to it all that itit to some degree.
It doesn't even matter whether you're workingon a financial or a personal goal or a
relationship goal that the principles ofprogress and success are really consistent
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across, you know, all things.
So I'm curious about what you what basic, butfirst advice would you give to everyone?
There there's not a person that we could meetwho maybe wouldn't be able to take this advice
and apply it and see a better outcome andwhatever is their priority at the time.
What would you say is that advice?
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I would say that any person has the ability tochoose their thoughts.
That is very powerful.
And we, tend to get trapped inside our our headinside our thoughts.
And usually we get anxiety, we get stressbecause we keep living in our imagination, but
we keep living the worst case scenario.
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Right?
So like preparing for an exam or parent for ajob interview or, a conflict that's that's
about to happen or that email that I have torespond to.
I'm living inside my head.
I'm just projecting into the worst casescenario.
But instead, I have the power to accept,reject, or ignore any idea that I want.
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So if someone's telling me something that isnot serving me, just projecting their
negativity on me, I can choose to ignore,change the subject, or reject the idea, say
that's interesting, but don't get emotionallyinvolved with it or accept it if it's going to
serve you.
I think this is
the best advice I can give anyone.
Yeah.
I love the, the suggestion there that justbecause the idea presents in your head,
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it
doesn't have to be true.
I meet I meet with a lot of people who arehaving, entire exchanges on their own.
Right?
They're imagining what the the person thinks,how they feel, what they believe, what they're
going to do, and to your point, projecting theworst case scenario when, You know, it's also
very healthy to say what else could be true.
And I love this point that you made.
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But how does it serve you?
Right?
When you think this particular perspective,Does that help or hurt you as it relates to
getting toward your goal?
Because to your point, you have the power tochoose your perspective.
And I think that takes practice, right, beingable to regularly ask yourself that question
and and choose in the way that's mostproductive.
It does.
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Yeah.
It takes a lot of practice, but awareness iscontagious.
Like, once you have it, there's no coming back.
You become more and more aware of all yourthoughts throughout your day.
But we, as human beings, we have, like, agazillion thoughts every day.
So it's not obvious to keep track of everythought that's not possible, but we can always
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keep track of our mood, our emotions, ourFields, the way we Fields, like, whenever I'm
thinking something that is not serving me, Iwill immediately start to feel bad or start to
feel anxious or frustrated or at least notinterested or not motivated.
So I just have to switch the feeling.
You have to love for a few minutes, have totake a walk, get some air, talk to friends,
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read a good book.
And as soon as I get my feelings, on a highervibration or a higher frequency, I'm
immediately thinking better thoughts.
And then taking better actions.
Exactly.
I love this pre I've never heard it said thisway.
Awareness is contagious, not from person toperson, but One really healthy practice that I
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love to encourage people to do is to pick 1 ofthe important areas of their life, one area of
focus, and intentionally practice there.
Being aware and doing exactly what you justdescribed, monitoring your feelings, your
emotions, your responses, Just the power ofnoticing in one area, it tends to spread, like
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a contagious sort of situation except it's areally positive thing so that there's not
necessary work to do in every area But instead,all of the other areas are benefited because of
the one specific place that an individual ispracticing.
So I'm gonna hang on to this You've coined thephrase awareness is contagious.
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Maybe somebody else said it, but I heard itfrom you.
I love it.
So I think all of this is so fascinating.
And, obviously, as I said earlier, there are somany channels that we could go down.
And you've written 2 great books to help us,you know, make progress in in areas of our life
that we're focused on.
So I wonder where you would tell people to findyou.
Where should they, come Fields out more andfollow Nina Robert?
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So, they can find my, website, Nina RobertCoaching.com.
They can find find me on social media, alwaysin Robert or in Robert Coaching.
My two books are called, Cleanup Your Life AndMind Fitness for Entrepreneurs, and both are in
English and available on Amazon.
That is wonderful.
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So before we go, I wanna ask one more question,and that would be if you could share with us a
favorite story of progress, success, oraccomplishment from yourself or somebody that
you've worked with, implementing this practiceof awareness and, just attention to goals.
So tell tell me what you've got.
I wanna hear a a good one.
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Yeah.
I have a good one.
I started with quote for my, mentor Bob Proctorwho said, if you can see it in your head, you
can hold it in your head.
And I love that quote, but I kept looking forways to manifest it.
To see it happen, it it sounds amazing andeasy.
And I was asking myself, like, what's thecatch?
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Does it is it that easy?
If I can just hold it the idea in my head, Ican hold something in my head in my hand that
is a realization of my goal.
And, there opportunity gave, presented itselfto to me, last February when I hosted an event
5 day challenge event that I called MindFitness for Entrepreneurs.
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And I was preparing some content to present tomy clients during this event.
At the end of the the the week, I I had, like,enough content to start a draft for a first
book.
And I said, okay.
This is this is the the opportunity for me totest that.
If I can hold the idea in my mind, I can maybehold the the book in my hand.
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And I gave myself 6 weeks, that was a very,difficult deadline, very short, and I gave
myself a daily goal of writing a 1000 words.
As simple as that, to keep myself disciplinedand accountable, At the end of the 6 weeks, the
book was published on Amazon at the thing wasin my head.
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I love that you mentioned the inspiration thatyou took from your mentor, Bob Proctor.
I've heard that phrase that he says.
If you can see it, in your head.
You can hold it in your hand.
But even more than that, I loved how you sharedsome practical bits in there as well because
you set a daily goal for yourself.
Mhmm.
And at the end of 6 weeks, you looked back andit was accomplished.
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Yeah.
That's important.
To stay at home.
That is so fantastic.
Yes.
Because I don't wake up every day supermotivated to do whatever I have to do.
Right?
So when motivation is not there, that has to bedisciplined, and I have to keep the to hold
myself accountable.
This is what I did.
Yes.
And I think writing or in whatever way youexpress daily attention to that goal is
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absolutely giving you what you need the tool tohold yourself accountable.
Even when motivation, someone just said this,when motivation doesn't show up, that's when
you need discipline.
Right?
It's just not always going to be there.
Nina, this has been a very quick conversationbut so fascinating and, hopefully enriching to
everybody who listens.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
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And thank you for inviting me.
Thank you, Monique.
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