March 13, 2024 • 21 mins
In episode 94, I share with you why I love finding side gigs on Craigslist. And I tell you about a new one. I just landed.
You're listening to the remote work retirement show. I'm your host, Camille Attell. And this is the only show that helps semi retirees figure out the remote work options.
I believe the remote work is the new retirement plan and that many retirees have both the ability and desire to work how they want so they can live how they want. Let's dig into today's episode....
Hello, and thank you for joining me today. It's always a pleasure to have you back. Or, if it's your first time, thank you so much for listening. Today, I'm going to do something a little bit different. I want to share with you a personal story because I think it would be interesting and maybe a little bit instructive. Now the story specifically will be about how I found a side gig on Craigslist.
It's not the only time I've done this. So, I'll tell you about the first time I did it. And I'll also tell you about how I did this again just a few weeks ago. But before I do that, I want to share another story with you not totally related to today's episode. But it's really part of a broader philosophy related to things that I talk about a lot on this show, and that is to always remember that everything you do, most everything you do has a value. Meaning you might be doing something as simple as cleaning your house.
For me, that's not simple at all. So, who knows, maybe for you, you love it. I know some people listening hate doing it. But that task has value inside of that task. There are skills that you would need to possess to do it. And so, the reason I'm telling you this is I was on a walk this morning. I'm trying to get out more for walks, trying to do the healthy thing.
Right. And on my walk today, I saw a gentleman. He appears to be retired. I don't know, but this wasn't a Monday at around 10 30, so I don't know. Maybe someone could think I'm retired. Because I took a walk at 10 30, which is not true. I'm just a remote worker and I can set my own schedule. So I shouldn't make assumptions.
However, this man as planting flowers and putting in some plants in his lawn outside of his house. And it looked so beautiful. I loved what he was choosing. He had some succulents; he had some flowers. Names of which I couldn't tell you. I saw him with his soil, and he was patting it all down. And I, you know, as I walked by him, I said, wow, that is just so beautiful. To which he replied: oh yeah. I just have a lot of time on my hands. I should probably get better hobbies.
And I just can't even with a comment like that. If you've been listening to the show or me for any length of time, you know, that I'm a huge advocate for people to see their own talent, to really recognize, respect and honor their own skills.
And so, when that man responded to me like that, maybe he was being funny., maybe he was being humble. But I heard something else. I heard self-judgment. And I stopped and I turned around and I looked at him. And I said, no, you don't need better hobbies. This is exactly what you're meant to do, and you're obviously really good at it.
And then he protested even more …..
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(00:00):
In episode 94, I share with youwhy I love finding side gigs on
(00:04):
Craigslist.
And I tell you about a new one.
I just landed.
You're listening to the remotework retirement show.
I'm your host, Camille Attell.
And this is the only show thathelps semi retirees figure out
the remote work options.
I believe the remote work is thenew retirement plan and that
(00:24):
many retirees have both theability and desire to work, how
they want so they can live howthey want.
Let's dig into today'sepisode....
Hello, and thank you for joiningme today.
It's always a pleasure to haveyou back, or if it's your first
time.
Thank you so much for listening.
Today, I'm going to do somethinga little bit different.
(00:46):
And I want to share with you apersonal story because I think
it would be interesting and alsomaybe a little bit instructive.
Now the story specifically, itwill be about how I found a side
gig on Craigslist.
It's not the only time I've donethis.
So I'll tell you about the firsttime I did it.
And I'll also tell you about howI did this just a few weeks ago.
(01:09):
But before I do that, I wantedto share another story with you.
Not totally related to today'sepisode.
But it's really part of abroader philosophy.
Related to things that I talkabout a lot on this show, and
that is to always remember thateverything you do.
Most everything you do has avalue.
(01:30):
Meaning.
You might be doing something assimple as.
Cleaning your house.
I don't know for me, that's notsimple at all.
So who knows for maybe for you,you love it.
I know some people listeninghate doing it.
But that actually has value thattask has value inside of that
task.
There are skills that you wouldneed to possess to do it.
(01:52):
And so the reason I'm tellingyou this is I was on a walk this
morning.
I'm trying to get out more forwalks, trying to do the healthy
thing.
Right.
And on my walk today, I saw agentleman.
He appears to be retired.
I don't know, but this wasn't aMonday at around 10 30, so I
don't know.
Maybe someone could think I'mretired.
(02:13):
Because I took a walk at 10 30,which is not true.
I'm just a remote worker and Ican set my own schedule.
So I shouldn't make assumptions.
However, this man.
Was planting flowers and puttingin some plants.
Uh, in his lawn, outside of his,his house.
And it looked so beautiful.
(02:34):
I loved what he was choosing.
He had some succulents, he hadsome flowers.
Names of which I couldn't tellyou.
I saw him with his soil and hewas patting it all down.
And I, you know, as I walked byhim, I said, wow, that is just
so beautiful.
To which he replied.
Oh yeah.
I just have a lot of time on myhands.
(02:54):
I should probably get betterhobbies.
And I just can't even with acomment like that, if you've
been listening to the show or mefor any length of time, you
know, that I'm a huge advocatefor people to see their own
talent, to really recognize.
Uh, respect and honor their ownskills.
(03:16):
And so when that man respondedto me like that, maybe he was
being funny.
Maybe he was being humble.
But I heard something else.
I heard self judgment.
And I stopped and I turnedaround and I looked at him.
And I said, no, you don't needbetter hobbies.
This is exactly what you'remeant to do, and you're
obviously really good at it.
(03:37):
And then he protested even more.
You know, he talked about howhe, you know, he really could
find better things to do withhis time and he probably
shouldn't be out in the gardenand I'm like, my goodness.
What is this guy dealing withthat he has that much head noise
going on with an activity thatnot only he enjoys, but it's
(03:59):
also a healthy activity.
And is beautiful and is a greatway to spend time.
So, you know, I started thinkingabout this.
I think I said something else tohim, like, well, you're very
talented.
And then I moved on with my daybecause, you know, what am I
going to do?
Argue with him for hislimitations.
No.
So I started thinking about itand I was reflecting on how
(04:20):
often we do this to ourselves,including me.
And we take tasks that we doevery day.
We, you know, things we take forgranted.
Um, things we don't think about.
The things that we do around thehouse or in our lives where we
just think either they have novalue, we don't have talent.
(04:40):
You know, Maybe the skills wehave aren't that valuable or no
one else would need those skillsor want those skills.
And we've just got to stop doingit.
There's it adds no benefit toyou to tell yourself stories
like this, man.
And listen, I do it too.
I'm guilty of it too, but it wassuch a good reminder because I
(05:00):
guarantee you.
I could not build a garden asbeautiful as he was building
that garden.
So his skill set to me had a lotof value.
If I wanted someone to comebuild a garden, if he were
willing, I might hire him, buthe doesn't think so.
And that's a shame.
So if you relate to this at all,this is just a really good time
(05:20):
to remind you that as you goabout your day, As you're doing
things that seem really easy toyou and natural and maybe
seemingly don't have value.
I want you to think about howthey actually do have value.
I want you to tell yourself adifferent story, no matter what
it is.
You know, Hey, today I loggedonto the computer and I did
online banking.
(05:42):
Why is that a valuable skill?
Right.
So I just, I just want you tothink about that.
And I want you to challengeyourself to think about the
things you do in a new way.
Okay.
I'm going to get off my soap boxand now I'm going to tell you my
Craigslist story.
That's why we're here today.
So let's talk about Craigslist.
Craigslist is one of those.
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I don't know what to call it.
Websites, I guess, platformsit's been around for what seems
like a hundred years.
Obviously it hasn't because theinternet hasn't been around that
long, but it's been around.
I feel like almost as long asthe internet and it's been
something that I've used forages for all kinds of things.
Back in the day in the, likemaybe early two thousands.
(06:25):
I used to use Craigslist to doat home.
Almost like garage sales, but inmy house, which, you know, in
hindsight, probably wasn't verysafe, but I was, oh, maybe a
little naive and trusting, but Iwould open up my home and
anytime I needed to purge thingsfrom my closet or my office or
whatever, I would go around thehouse and I would.
(06:47):
I don't know, decorate is astrong word I would display.
How about that?
I would display things aroundthe house.
I would let people come in, youknow, I'd put an ad on
Craigslist or post onCraigslist.
I'd let people come in.
And, you know, these.
It was like, not a lot of money,obviously, but it was nice.
I got to purge and make a fewbucks.
(07:07):
So that's how I started usingCraigslist on top of, you know,
looking for things to buy andsell from other people.
But I also started usingCraigslist back in 2017 to look
for jobs.
And I think that that issurprising for some people,
because most people don't thinkof Craigslist as a job board or
(07:27):
a place to find jobs.
Maybe you're different.
Maybe you have done this, butmost people I'd say seven out of
10, probably haven't.
Or those who have feel like it'srisky because there are a lot of
scams on Craigslist.
So they really steer clear ofit.
And that's true.
So I want to address that firstthat if you go searching for
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jobs on Craigslist, heck if yougo searching for anything on
Craigslist.
That there are a lot of scams.
And the reason for that is, isit's free.
You're not paying to access thatsite because it's free.
You're going to find a lot oftrash.
On their digital trash, right.
Scams and weird people andpeople who maybe never call you
(08:11):
back or people who you don'treally want to have call you
back.
But I have been fairlysuccessful with finding jobs and
by jobs.
I mean like side gigs, I'venever really looked for a
full-time job on Craigslist.
I'm always looking for what I'llcall filler jobs.
And the first time I did thiswas back in 2017.
(08:31):
Or was it earlier?
It might've been even 2016.
Now that I think about it.
When my husband Bryce and I goton the road.
And got into our RV and startedRV in full time.
Now, if you don't know thatstory here is the high level
summary.
In 2016, we walked away fromeverything.
Our good paying jobs are home.
(08:52):
Everything we knew in our, inour lives, like our friends, our
family, I mean, we didn'tabandon them, but we basically
said we're not going to playthis suburban game anymore.
And we want to do something elsewith our lives.
And so we got into an RV and westarted traveling full time.
And I lasted about.
Three months before I started topanic about money, we had some
(09:14):
money saved.
So in the initial months we wereusing some of our savings.
But listen, I have been workingsince I was 13 years old.
And using my own money or savingmy own money.
And I've been very independentfor so long.
The idea that I would live offof savings.
Even though I had it.
For that period of time made mevery uncomfortable.
(09:36):
But at that point, I didn't knowwhere to find remote jobs.
I didn't know that remote workwas a thing and let's be honest.
It was barely a thing in 2016.
It certainly wasn't asmainstream as it is now.
So I was on Craigslist.
I went to the job section.
I had actually, well, my husbandand I had actually been I'll
(09:57):
call it marooned in our RV.
I know that's not the right wordbecause, you know, I don't think
you can get marooned on land.
I don't know.
Anyway, we were stuck in theback of a dealer's garage
because our RV had broken downand we couldn't take it
anywhere.
So we were really living in theback of this garage.
For four days in Oregon in thepouring rain.
(10:17):
when I think about it now, it'sactually kind of charming.
And fun.
And I think about it withfondness at the time, I remember
feeling very cold and angry.
About the whole thing andanxious.
And so I started looking onCraigslist.
Just for something to do,because I'm like, I just can't
take it anymore.
So I went to the job section andI found all these random jobs.
(10:40):
I mean, everything from get thisscooping alpaca poop on a farm,
which I wasn't going to do inthe rain, but I would do at any
other point.
Uh, to the job I actually didfind, which was my husband and I
playing the part of parents whoare going to be adopting.
Or I think we had alreadyadopted, I can't remember.
(11:02):
Let me put it this way.
We were doing like a publicservice video for parents who
were considering adoption as anoption.
And so we played these parentsand this was going to be turned
into a commercial.
My husband has zero actingexperience.
I have a little bit of communitytheater.
Uh, I can tell a decent joke.
(11:23):
So I'm like, I got this.
So we did this little actingstint.
We were there for a couple ofhours.
And we didn't make a lot ofmoney, but it was a hundred
dollars.
And for me, I felt like I wonthe lottery because it was the
first time I felt like I knew.
That this was possible that thatremote work was a possibility.
(11:44):
Now it wasn't truly remotebecause we had to go to the
studio and, you know, it was onsite, but it was remote in the
way that it was something Ifound on the road.
It was flexible and part time,it was just not even a whole
days worth of work.
A couple hours.
And I got a hundred bucks and itwas like, I don't know, there
was something that felt reallyempowering about it.
(12:05):
So from that point on, I was abig fan of using Craigslist to
find.
Little sidekicks.
Which pairings brings me to acouple of weeks ago.
Now every now and again, I getjust the tiniest, a tiniest bit
of board.
I don't even know if I'm sayingthat.
Right.
I get bored a little bit tinynow, and that's not because I'm
(12:28):
not busy.
I'm super, super busy.
All the time, especially withthis business.
And sure I do.
You know, I have some hobbies,although right now the business,
can I take some, most of mytime?
You know, I'm trying to playguitar here and there.
I'm going to see live music.
I just saw Tommy Emmanuel.
If you know who that is, he's afantastic guitar player.
(12:50):
And so I'm into a number ofthings, but every now and again,
I need to do something differentwith my brain that isn't related
to work, but also doesn't tax mybrain.
Um, like creativity does likelearning guitar because I'm
still using my brain when I'mlearning guitar.
So sometimes I just scrollthrough Craigslist and I just
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look up the jobs just to seelike, well, what is out there?
Is there anything I could do fora day or a weekend or a couple
of days, something different,everything from, I could be a
birthday clown cause you know,why not I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
And for me, I don't need it tobe remote because I'm already
working remotely in some waysI'd prefer that my side gig be
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on site just for a change ofpace and to give my brain just a
little bit of a rest.
So I found this job.
That is, it feels like a perfectfit for me.
And what it is is it's a bookingagent.
For a new local band.
That is a tribute band for aband from the nineties called
(13:56):
the stone temple pilots.
If you know that band.
This is like a hard rock grungesound.
And I don't want to tell you thename of the, um, The tribute
band yet, because I don't knowhow long this is going to last.
And I don't even know if they'llkeep their name.
Because I don't love it.
Be honest with you.
Anyway, they had this post onCraigslist.
They were looking for a bookingagent, someone to just get them
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gigs, local bars andrestaurants.
It's a work at your own pacetype of job.
And here's the thing about this.
There is no actual salary orhourly rate.
I get paid by the bookings.
And that's okay.
I don't mind that because I ammotivated.
And the way that they're goingto pay is there are four band
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members.
And if I get them a booking,they would just split it five
ways.
I would be like a fifth bandmember.
And so whatever the bookingpays, I would get a fifth of it.
Think about this now I ammotivated to find the best
bookings in town.
Am I going to work hard for thebooking that's$250, or am I
(15:02):
going to work harder for thebooking?
That's$1,500.
I'm pretty sure.
You know, the answer to that.
Now, obviously in the beginning,I'm going to look for any
bookings at all, because I thinkwhat this band needs is
traction.
They're very new.
They've been rehearsing for sixmonths and they have played two
gigs.
I went to their second gig orlive show, I guess not really a
(15:23):
gig.
I went to their live show.
So I could check them out firstto make sure I thought they were
going to be reasonable enough.
'cause I don't know.
I found this band on Craigslist.
Who are these people?
Are they for real?
Is this a real job?
You know, I wanted to know thatthese folks were legit.
So my husband and I went and sawthis band a couple of weeks ago
and I was actually veryimpressed.
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They were really good musiciansor are very good musicians.
They put on a great show.
I really liked it.
I thought they were tight.
I thought their sound was good.
I think they have a lot ofpotential.
There are some things I'd likethem to change, but of course
I'm not their manager.
I'm just their booking agent,you know, I just want to manage,
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I want to like get in there andbe like, okay.
You basis, you need to do itthis way.
And how about if you guys wearthese clothes and, oh, by the
way, can you change the name ofyour band?
Because I don't like it.
Well, that's not going to work.
So I have to.
You know, bite my tongue and Ihave to be humble.
And I have to just do the jobthey've hired me to do, which is
(16:29):
to get them the bookings.
So I've started on it and I willreport back to you on how this
goes and if I'm getting thebookings and, and what kind of
revenue this brings in now, thisis not something I'm going to be
doing to bring in, you know,loads and loads of revenue.
It's not for that.
This is a hobby job for me.
(16:50):
This is perfect because it getsme out.
To go see music.
That's the other perk for me.
I get to make all of theserelationships with these venues
and I'll probably be able to getin for free with the band so I
can see their show for free, andI can see other bands they play
with for free.
And maybe if I makerelationships with these venues,
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I can go see other shows forfree.
I feel like this fuses the bestof my skills, which is marketing
and relationships andcommunication.
With my passions, which is musicand, you know, seeing live shows
and getting out, meeting people.
So, this is perfect for me.
Oh, it does happen to be remoteby the way, which is fine.
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Like, I don't mind, I make phonecalls and send emails and then
if I want to go to the shows, Ican go in person.
So, you know, that's just alittle bit more about this
recent job that I found.
And, you know, it's not foreveryone.
I get that, that type of workmay not work for you, but it
could.
And so I want to leave you withthe, I guess, idea.
(17:55):
I don't want to call itinspiration because this may not
be inspiring for everyone.
But I want to leave you with theidea or the concept that you can
find things like this onCraigslist.
And what you would do is youwould go into the jobs section
on Craigslist.
And you could use some keywordsif you want.
I didn't.
I just started searching aroundand seeing., or you can use
(18:18):
words like remote.
If you really do want remotejobs, you could use keywords
like hybrid if you want hybridjobs, but here's the trick with
Craigslist.
It is very much local.
So if you're searching in yourown local area, You're going to
be pretty limited on what youfind.
So you may need to go to adifferent Craigslist.
(18:40):
That's connected to a differentcity.
If you want to find remote jobsin other cities.
So think about big cities, wherethere are remote jobs.
You know, I think of places likeAustin, Texas, Los Angeles.
Um, maybe Chicago.
Uh, New York, you know, you wantto think about where are the
jobs concentrated?
(19:01):
And where would I find remotejobs?
And then you may have to changeyour location of Craigslist.
To search in those areas so thatyou find remote jobs in those
areas, because if it's remote,it doesn't matter where you live
most of the time.
Obviously, well, not obviously,but if it's a hybrid job, Then
you probably do have to findsomething close to you because
(19:21):
you'd have to go in some of thetime.
But it's worth checking out.
One other thing I'll mention isyou don't only have to stay in
the jobs category because youcan search on some of the other
categories.
And just poke around and see ifpeople are looking for help with
something, you can go into themusic category, you can go into
(19:42):
the administrative category, youcould go into the art category.
It just depends on yourinterests.
And you can search around andyou can use different keywords.
I've talked about keywords onthis show.
Uh, before, so you can maybesearch the show on, you know,
using keywords for a job search.
And the last thing I'll mentionis you do have to be aware of
scams I've.
(20:03):
I've mentioned that before inthis episode, but the very last
episode.
That, um, I recorded is episode93 and that's called slam the
scam.
I encourage you to listen tothat episode.
If you want to learn how toprotect yourself from the scams
that are out there.
But in short, don't give awayany money.
(20:23):
Don't give away any personalinformation or credit card
information.
Um, That is the problem withCraigslist.
It is free.
You can use it.
There's a lot of cool stuff outthere.
But there are scams too, and youdo have to be protected.
Remind yourself that if it's toogood to be true, then it
probably isn't true.
(20:43):
All right.
I hope you enjoyed this funepisode.
And, uh, if you do have anyquestions about looking for jobs
on Craigslist or anywhere else,Be sure to reach out to me on
Instagram is the best place.
It's Camille Attell.
All right.
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(21:04):
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In episode 94, I share with youwhy I love finding side gigs on
(00:04):
Craigslist.
And I tell you about a new one.
I just landed.
You're listening to the remotework retirement show.
I'm your host, Camille Attell.
And this is the only show thathelps semi retirees figure out
the remote work options.
I believe the remote work is thenew retirement plan and that
(00:24):
many retirees have both theability and desire to work, how
they want so they can live howthey want.
Let's dig into today'sepisode....
Hello, and thank you for joiningme today.
It's always a pleasure to haveyou back, or if it's your first
time.
Thank you so much for listening.
Today, I'm going to do somethinga little bit different.
(00:46):
And I want to share with you apersonal story because I think
it would be interesting and alsomaybe a little bit instructive.
Now the story specifically, itwill be about how I found a side
gig on Craigslist.
It's not the only time I've donethis.
So I'll tell you about the firsttime I did it.
And I'll also tell you about howI did this just a few weeks ago.
(01:09):
But before I do that, I wantedto share another story with you.
Not totally related to today'sepisode.
But it's really part of abroader philosophy.
Related to things that I talkabout a lot on this show, and
that is to always remember thateverything you do.
Most everything you do has avalue.
(01:30):
Meaning.
You might be doing something assimple as.
Cleaning your house.
I don't know for me, that's notsimple at all.
So who knows for maybe for you,you love it.
I know some people listeninghate doing it.
But that actually has value thattask has value inside of that
task.
There are skills that you wouldneed to possess to do it.
(01:52):
And so the reason I'm tellingyou this is I was on a walk this
morning.
I'm trying to get out more forwalks, trying to do the healthy
thing.
Right.
And on my walk today, I saw agentleman.
He appears to be retired.
I don't know, but this wasn't aMonday at around 10 30, so I
don't know.
Maybe someone could think I'mretired.
(02:13):
Because I took a walk at 10 30,which is not true.
I'm just a remote worker and Ican set my own schedule.
So I shouldn't make assumptions.
However, this man.
Was planting flowers and puttingin some plants.
Uh, in his lawn, outside of his,his house.
And it looked so beautiful.
(02:34):
I loved what he was choosing.
He had some succulents, he hadsome flowers.
Names of which I couldn't tellyou.
I saw him with his soil and hewas patting it all down.
And I, you know, as I walked byhim, I said, wow, that is just
so beautiful.
To which he replied.
Oh yeah.
I just have a lot of time on myhands.
(02:54):
I should probably get betterhobbies.
And I just can't even with acomment like that, if you've
been listening to the show or mefor any length of time, you
know, that I'm a huge advocatefor people to see their own
talent, to really recognize.
Uh, respect and honor their ownskills.
(03:16):
And so when that man respondedto me like that, maybe he was
being funny.
Maybe he was being humble.
But I heard something else.
I heard self judgment.
And I stopped and I turnedaround and I looked at him.
And I said, no, you don't needbetter hobbies.
This is exactly what you'remeant to do, and you're
obviously really good at it.
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And then he protested even more.
You know, he talked about howhe, you know, he really could
find better things to do withhis time and he probably
shouldn't be out in the gardenand I'm like, my goodness.
What is this guy dealing withthat he has that much head noise
going on with an activity thatnot only he enjoys, but it's
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also a healthy activity.
And is beautiful and is a greatway to spend time.
So, you know, I started thinkingabout this.
I think I said something else tohim, like, well, you're very
talented.
And then I moved on with my daybecause, you know, what am I
going to do?
Argue with him for hislimitations.
No.
So I started thinking about itand I was reflecting on how
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often we do this to ourselves,including me.
And we take tasks that we doevery day.
We, you know, things we take forgranted.
Um, things we don't think about.
The things that we do around thehouse or in our lives where we
just think either they have novalue, we don't have talent.
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You know, Maybe the skills wehave aren't that valuable or no
one else would need those skillsor want those skills.
And we've just got to stop doingit.
There's it adds no benefit toyou to tell yourself stories
like this, man.
And listen, I do it too.
I'm guilty of it too, but it wassuch a good reminder because I
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guarantee you.
I could not build a garden asbeautiful as he was building
that garden.
So his skill set to me had a lotof value.
If I wanted someone to comebuild a garden, if he were
willing, I might hire him, buthe doesn't think so.
And that's a shame.
So if you relate to this at all,this is just a really good time
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to remind you that as you goabout your day, As you're doing
things that seem really easy toyou and natural and maybe
seemingly don't have value.
I want you to think about howthey actually do have value.
I want you to tell yourself adifferent story, no matter what
it is.
You know, Hey, today I loggedonto the computer and I did
online banking.
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Why is that a valuable skill?
Right.
So I just, I just want you tothink about that.
And I want you to challengeyourself to think about the
things you do in a new way.
Okay.
I'm going to get off my soap boxand now I'm going to tell you my
Craigslist story.
That's why we're here today.
So let's talk about Craigslist.
Craigslist is one of those.
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I don't know what to call it.
Websites, I guess, platformsit's been around for what seems
like a hundred years.
Obviously it hasn't because theinternet hasn't been around that
long, but it's been around.
I feel like almost as long asthe internet and it's been
something that I've used forages for all kinds of things.
Back in the day in the, likemaybe early two thousands.
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I used to use Craigslist to doat home.
Almost like garage sales, but inmy house, which, you know, in
hindsight, probably wasn't verysafe, but I was, oh, maybe a
little naive and trusting, but Iwould open up my home and
anytime I needed to purge thingsfrom my closet or my office or
whatever, I would go around thehouse and I would.
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I don't know, decorate is astrong word I would display.
How about that?
I would display things aroundthe house.
I would let people come in, youknow, I'd put an ad on
Craigslist or post onCraigslist.
I'd let people come in.
And, you know, these.
It was like, not a lot of money,obviously, but it was nice.
I got to purge and make a fewbucks.
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So that's how I started usingCraigslist on top of, you know,
looking for things to buy andsell from other people.
But I also started usingCraigslist back in 2017 to look
for jobs.
And I think that that issurprising for some people,
because most people don't thinkof Craigslist as a job board or
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a place to find jobs.
Maybe you're different.
Maybe you have done this, butmost people I'd say seven out of
10, probably haven't.
Or those who have feel like it'srisky because there are a lot of
scams on Craigslist.
So they really steer clear ofit.
And that's true.
So I want to address that firstthat if you go searching for
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jobs on Craigslist, heck if yougo searching for anything on
Craigslist.
That there are a lot of scams.
And the reason for that is, isit's free.
You're not paying to access thatsite because it's free.
You're going to find a lot oftrash.
On their digital trash, right.
Scams and weird people andpeople who maybe never call you
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back or people who you don'treally want to have call you
back.
But I have been fairlysuccessful with finding jobs and
by jobs.
I mean like side gigs, I'venever really looked for a
full-time job on Craigslist.
I'm always looking for what I'llcall filler jobs.
And the first time I did thiswas back in 2017.
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Or was it earlier?
It might've been even 2016.
Now that I think about it.
When my husband Bryce and I goton the road.
And got into our RV and startedRV in full time.
Now, if you don't know thatstory here is the high level
summary.
In 2016, we walked away fromeverything.
Our good paying jobs are home.
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Everything we knew in our, inour lives, like our friends, our
family, I mean, we didn'tabandon them, but we basically
said we're not going to playthis suburban game anymore.
And we want to do something elsewith our lives.
And so we got into an RV and westarted traveling full time.
And I lasted about.
Three months before I started topanic about money, we had some
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money saved.
So in the initial months we wereusing some of our savings.
But listen, I have been workingsince I was 13 years old.
And using my own money or savingmy own money.
And I've been very independentfor so long.
The idea that I would live offof savings.
Even though I had it.
For that period of time made mevery uncomfortable.
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But at that point, I didn't knowwhere to find remote jobs.
I didn't know that remote workwas a thing and let's be honest.
It was barely a thing in 2016.
It certainly wasn't asmainstream as it is now.
So I was on Craigslist.
I went to the job section.
I had actually, well, my husbandand I had actually been I'll
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call it marooned in our RV.
I know that's not the right wordbecause, you know, I don't think
you can get marooned on land.
I don't know.
Anyway, we were stuck in theback of a dealer's garage
because our RV had broken downand we couldn't take it
anywhere.
So we were really living in theback of this garage.
For four days in Oregon in thepouring rain.
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when I think about it now, it'sactually kind of charming.
And fun.
And I think about it withfondness at the time, I remember
feeling very cold and angry.
About the whole thing andanxious.
And so I started looking onCraigslist.
Just for something to do,because I'm like, I just can't
take it anymore.
So I went to the job section andI found all these random jobs.
(10:40):
I mean, everything from get thisscooping alpaca poop on a farm,
which I wasn't going to do inthe rain, but I would do at any
other point.
Uh, to the job I actually didfind, which was my husband and I
playing the part of parents whoare going to be adopting.
Or I think we had alreadyadopted, I can't remember.
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Let me put it this way.
We were doing like a publicservice video for parents who
were considering adoption as anoption.
And so we played these parentsand this was going to be turned
into a commercial.
My husband has zero actingexperience.
I have a little bit of communitytheater.
Uh, I can tell a decent joke.
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So I'm like, I got this.
So we did this little actingstint.
We were there for a couple ofhours.
And we didn't make a lot ofmoney, but it was a hundred
dollars.
And for me, I felt like I wonthe lottery because it was the
first time I felt like I knew.
That this was possible that thatremote work was a possibility.
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Now it wasn't truly remotebecause we had to go to the
studio and, you know, it was onsite, but it was remote in the
way that it was something Ifound on the road.
It was flexible and part time,it was just not even a whole
days worth of work.
A couple hours.
And I got a hundred bucks and itwas like, I don't know, there
was something that felt reallyempowering about it.
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So from that point on, I was abig fan of using Craigslist to
find.
Little sidekicks.
Which pairings brings me to acouple of weeks ago.
Now every now and again, I getjust the tiniest, a tiniest bit
of board.
I don't even know if I'm sayingthat.
Right.
I get bored a little bit tinynow, and that's not because I'm
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not busy.
I'm super, super busy.
All the time, especially withthis business.
And sure I do.
You know, I have some hobbies,although right now the business,
can I take some, most of mytime?
You know, I'm trying to playguitar here and there.
I'm going to see live music.
I just saw Tommy Emmanuel.
If you know who that is, he's afantastic guitar player.
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And so I'm into a number ofthings, but every now and again,
I need to do something differentwith my brain that isn't related
to work, but also doesn't tax mybrain.
Um, like creativity does likelearning guitar because I'm
still using my brain when I'mlearning guitar.
So sometimes I just scrollthrough Craigslist and I just
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look up the jobs just to seelike, well, what is out there?
Is there anything I could do fora day or a weekend or a couple
of days, something different,everything from, I could be a
birthday clown cause you know,why not I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
And for me, I don't need it tobe remote because I'm already
working remotely in some waysI'd prefer that my side gig be
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on site just for a change ofpace and to give my brain just a
little bit of a rest.
So I found this job.
That is, it feels like a perfectfit for me.
And what it is is it's a bookingagent.
For a new local band.
That is a tribute band for aband from the nineties called
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the stone temple pilots.
If you know that band.
This is like a hard rock grungesound.
And I don't want to tell you thename of the, um, The tribute
band yet, because I don't knowhow long this is going to last.
And I don't even know if they'llkeep their name.
Because I don't love it.
Be honest with you.
Anyway, they had this post onCraigslist.
They were looking for a bookingagent, someone to just get them
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gigs, local bars andrestaurants.
It's a work at your own pacetype of job.
And here's the thing about this.
There is no actual salary orhourly rate.
I get paid by the bookings.
And that's okay.
I don't mind that because I ammotivated.
And the way that they're goingto pay is there are four band
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members.
And if I get them a booking,they would just split it five
ways.
I would be like a fifth bandmember.
And so whatever the bookingpays, I would get a fifth of it.
Think about this now I ammotivated to find the best
bookings in town.
Am I going to work hard for thebooking that's$250, or am I
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going to work harder for thebooking?
That's$1,500.
I'm pretty sure.
You know, the answer to that.
Now, obviously in the beginning,I'm going to look for any
bookings at all, because I thinkwhat this band needs is
traction.
They're very new.
They've been rehearsing for sixmonths and they have played two
gigs.
I went to their second gig orlive show, I guess not really a
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gig.
I went to their live show.
So I could check them out firstto make sure I thought they were
going to be reasonable enough.
'cause I don't know.
I found this band on Craigslist.
Who are these people?
Are they for real?
Is this a real job?
You know, I wanted to know thatthese folks were legit.
So my husband and I went and sawthis band a couple of weeks ago
and I was actually veryimpressed.
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They were really good musiciansor are very good musicians.
They put on a great show.
I really liked it.
I thought they were tight.
I thought their sound was good.
I think they have a lot ofpotential.
There are some things I'd likethem to change, but of course
I'm not their manager.
I'm just their booking agent,you know, I just want to manage,
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I want to like get in there andbe like, okay.
You basis, you need to do itthis way.
And how about if you guys wearthese clothes and, oh, by the
way, can you change the name ofyour band?
Because I don't like it.
Well, that's not going to work.
So I have to.
You know, bite my tongue and Ihave to be humble.
And I have to just do the jobthey've hired me to do, which is
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to get them the bookings.
So I've started on it and I willreport back to you on how this
goes and if I'm getting thebookings and, and what kind of
revenue this brings in now, thisis not something I'm going to be
doing to bring in, you know,loads and loads of revenue.
It's not for that.
This is a hobby job for me.
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This is perfect because it getsme out.
To go see music.
That's the other perk for me.
I get to make all of theserelationships with these venues
and I'll probably be able to getin for free with the band so I
can see their show for free, andI can see other bands they play
with for free.
And maybe if I makerelationships with these venues,
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I can go see other shows forfree.
I feel like this fuses the bestof my skills, which is marketing
and relationships andcommunication.
With my passions, which is musicand, you know, seeing live shows
and getting out, meeting people.
So, this is perfect for me.
Oh, it does happen to be remoteby the way, which is fine.
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Like, I don't mind, I make phonecalls and send emails and then
if I want to go to the shows, Ican go in person.
So, you know, that's just alittle bit more about this
recent job that I found.
And, you know, it's not foreveryone.
I get that, that type of workmay not work for you, but it
could.
And so I want to leave you withthe, I guess, idea.
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I don't want to call itinspiration because this may not
be inspiring for everyone.
But I want to leave you with theidea or the concept that you can
find things like this onCraigslist.
And what you would do is youwould go into the jobs section
on Craigslist.
And you could use some keywordsif you want.
I didn't.
I just started searching aroundand seeing., or you can use
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words like remote.
If you really do want remotejobs, you could use keywords
like hybrid if you want hybridjobs, but here's the trick with
Craigslist.
It is very much local.
So if you're searching in yourown local area, You're going to
be pretty limited on what youfind.
So you may need to go to adifferent Craigslist.
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That's connected to a differentcity.
If you want to find remote jobsin other cities.
So think about big cities, wherethere are remote jobs.
You know, I think of places likeAustin, Texas, Los Angeles.
Um, maybe Chicago.
Uh, New York, you know, you wantto think about where are the
jobs concentrated?
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And where would I find remotejobs?
And then you may have to changeyour location of Craigslist.
To search in those areas so thatyou find remote jobs in those
areas, because if it's remote,it doesn't matter where you live
most of the time.
Obviously, well, not obviously,but if it's a hybrid job, Then
you probably do have to findsomething close to you because
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you'd have to go in some of thetime.
But it's worth checking out.
One other thing I'll mention isyou don't only have to stay in
the jobs category because youcan search on some of the other
categories.
And just poke around and see ifpeople are looking for help with
something, you can go into themusic category, you can go into
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the administrative category, youcould go into the art category.
It just depends on yourinterests.
And you can search around andyou can use different keywords.
I've talked about keywords onthis show.
Uh, before, so you can maybesearch the show on, you know,
using keywords for a job search.
And the last thing I'll mentionis you do have to be aware of
scams I've.
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I've mentioned that before inthis episode, but the very last
episode.
That, um, I recorded is episode93 and that's called slam the
scam.
I encourage you to listen tothat episode.
If you want to learn how toprotect yourself from the scams
that are out there.
But in short, don't give awayany money.
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Don't give away any personalinformation or credit card
information.
Um, That is the problem withCraigslist.
It is free.
You can use it.
There's a lot of cool stuff outthere.
But there are scams too, and youdo have to be protected.
Remind yourself that if it's toogood to be true, then it
probably isn't true.
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All right.
I hope you enjoyed this funepisode.
And, uh, if you do have anyquestions about looking for jobs
on Craigslist or anywhere else,Be sure to reach out to me on
Instagram is the best place.
It's Camille Attell.
All right.
Thanks so much for listening.
If you're looking to get backinto the workforce, change jobs,
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work remotely, or learnartificial intelligence, check
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