In this final episode, Adam shares how the love of Jesus shown through SafeHouse Ministries, and the encounter with Jesus he had through his own personal surrender changed the trajectory of his life forever. Adam shares great truth about the fact that none of us really has the right to judge or condemn others, and that instead we should follow the example of Jesus and show grace and love instead. His story is a great example of how SafeHouse Ministries endeavors to first love and accept people wherever they are and then help lead them to the better place that God desires for them to be.
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Adam (00:00):
it's just hard.
It's hard to get past that first90 days and sit long enough, I
think at least four months.
To get the stuff to stop goingin your head, the thoughts of,
oh, this stuff happened, or Idid this or I did this.
Nobody's ever gonna talk to mebecause I was such an awful
human being, and eventually youjust have to say, Hey, that was
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what it was.
That's not what it is now.
That's not who I am.
Phil Shuler (00:26):
HellO, and welcome to Renew, Restore, Rejoice, the
Safe House Ministries podcast,where we share stories of the
power of God to change livesthrough Safe House Ministries.
Safe House Ministries is basedout of Columbus, Georgia, and we
are a ministry that exists tolove and serve people who have
been affected by addiction,homelessness, and incarceration.
I'm your host, Phil Shuler, theDirector of Development for Safe
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House Ministries here inColumbus, Georgia.
Safe House serves over 1, 100people each month as they
transition back into ourcommunity.
Safe House provides an abundanceof services including 213 beds
for homeless individuals andfamilies, case management for
obtaining job skills and longterm employment.
Over 300 hot meals every day,free clothing, and so much more.
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One of the most incredibleservices that Safe House
provides is our free 9 12 monthintensive outpatient substance
abuse program, which is statelicensed, CARF accredited, and
has no wait list.
Almost 100 percent ofindividuals staying in our
shelters who follow our threephase program become fully
employed within a few months.
And 68 percent of individualswho stay at least one night with
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us End up finding work andmoving into their own home.
Thank you for being with ustoday and listening to our
podcast.
We hope you enjoy this week'sepisode.
Adam (01:39):
So I remember sitting in a meeting and saying I didn't know
how to pray.
I didn't know what that lookedlike.
I knew the concept, but how tolike truly pray.
And my sponsor is a devoutCatholic unwavering faith, and
he gave me so much grace.
Like he would say, just talk tohim.
Or I'd say, man I don't know ifI'm gonna be Catholic or go
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back.
I grew up Presbyterian, firstPres downtown if I'm gonna be
Presbyterian Baptist.
He was like, Hey, you're rightwhere you need to be.
And that's all he'd say to me.
And, he would share on hisfaith.
But it was never, you need to,or you've got to.
He was, oh, he just, you'reright where you need to be.
And eventually, I remember oneday in a meeting at Freedom
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House, I said, maybe I foundspirituality, or maybe it's here
and I'm in the way of it.
And when I tell you it was like,I wanna say that day, but I
could be wrong.
It was quick.
I did a, something said, whydon't you meditate?
'cause I've meditated over theyears and I'm pretty good at it.
And I did this guided meditationin my room in the quiet, which
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is hard to find it freedom.
But, I shut the door.
Fortunately, I was there duringthe day and most of the guys
were gone to class because Ididn't have necessarily a
program.
I would go to meetings and stuffat night with my sponsor.
But I had that moment and it waslike something like, what,
whatever made me decide tomeditate that day.
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And I haven't yet at that pointin probably a year or longer.
And I did a guided meditationfinding your Spirit guide.
So I'm thinking, all right, I'mgonna meet an Indian, native
American.
He's gonna have a bare skin overhim.
This is just, that's not whathappened.
It was the whole thing, likeyou're in a, you're in a grassy
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field.
There's a creek.
Take it in, your spirit guideis, it walks out and it's just
an immense white light.
Like I can tell it's a person, Idon't know.
I knew who it was, of course,but you couldn't see like facial
features and stuff.
It was just bright white light.
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And he walks up she's guidingthis.
She says, your spirit guidewalks up to you and tell him
what you want to tell him.
Talk to your spirit guide.
And I said, man, I looked foryou for 30 years.
I just wanna sit here insilence.
I just wanna sit here.
Just, I just wanna take this in.
And he sat on the bed next to meright there, and I felt it.
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I could feel my eyes wereclosed.
I could see the light in my eye,like the direction he was
sitting.
And I just sat there, man.
And so much peace.
It was so much peace.
And for somebody to, soA-D-H-D-A-D-D like me it was
like, whoa.
And it was a comp.
And and then I saw my parentsacross the field and they were
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like a bright, I knew it wasthem.
My mom wasn't in a wheelchair,she was walking at the end of
the meditation.
She said, say goodbye to yourspirit guy.
And it wasn't like that for me.
He opened his arms and I likeascended in this light.
I don't know what that means,but I don't need to, and when I
tell you that, I just I wishpeople could know what that
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feels like.
It's amazing, man.
I can't, I just can't, there'sno words to describe what that
experience is and that I wasable or worthy to feel it.
'cause I don't have anything tooffer him in my heart, and
that's it.
Yeah.
I don't have any, anything togive a king, yeah.
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You're talking about Jesus.
Yeah.
But he didn't need anything,man.
He just wanted me to surrenderand just, I,
Phil (05:19):
wow.
Adam (05:19):
So since then, this was December.
Now, last December I was inJacksonville, Florida, in Publix
parking lot.
This December I met my Lord inSavior Jesus Christ.
And I can listen to songs likeKings and Countries Sings O komo
come Emmanuel.
They have a version of it and itis so powerful to me.
Phil (05:42):
Yeah.
Adam (05:43):
That's the month I met my Lord and Savior, the month we
celebrated his birth.
Wow.
And to this day, like I even atFreedom House, they hear me in
there and it is April or Marchand I'm playing, oh come
Emanuel, because I just love it,man.
And Emmanuel, the God with End,this is what I feel.
And like I told you I walkedaway from that meditation
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feeling like I knew all theanswers to life, but it was
just, and I don't know what, Idon't know what those are, but I
guess it's the peace and theounce of grace, the little bit
of grace that I got.
It's like everything's all rightman.
And I know that everything'sokay.
Yeah.
I value human beings wherethey're at, even if they're not,
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even if I don't necessarily dowhat they're doing or their
preferences, it's okay.
Like even if they're not even ifthey're confused spiritually or
not that they're, if they'retotally atheist or satanic, it's
okay.
It's okay.
That's where you're right whereyou need to be.
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And had anybody counted me outwhen I was lost, I wouldn't have
found what I found.
So I know that there can't bejudgment and I can't judge
people.
I try to be respectful, butsometimes I get moved to say
that, I'm met my Lord and saviorJesus Christ, and I can't help
it.
Yeah.
But I still, I like, I don'tworry about the church anymore.
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I don't worry about whatreligion I'm gonna follow.
I know that he's okay with me.
Phil (07:19):
You're just gonna follow Jesus.
Adam (07:20):
I'm gonna follow Jesus.
And he told me it was okay.
You had it not been okay.
He wouldn't have met me.
You know what I mean?
I just it's profound, man.
And I know I spent a lot ofyears like in, in these programs
and they talk about a profoundspiritual experience, and then
one that just trickles inslowly.
I was like, oh, that's nevergonna happen.
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And it took 20 something years,but mine was the most profound
in my eyes.
But I don't know.
It makes it so now life I'mstill bothered by things.
But it's not gonna be that bad.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I, and and I'm grateful.
I'm grateful for the fellowshipI have and through Christ and
through the people that areworking this, the way they're
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supposed to be working it tomake a better life.
I wouldn't trade it for theworld, man.
I got everything I need, my, Italk to my children again.
My sister and I arecommunicating daily.
People have given me chances, Iwouldn't have the townhouse over
on Cherokee, had somebody notgiving me a chance.
Wow.
Because I don't have credit.
It's all garbage.
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And, I'm a convict ex-con.
It, there's so many blessingsWow.
That have come.
My brother-in-law told me when Icame out of that spiritual
awakening, I wanted to telleverybody, and he said, bro,
more will be for real.
You're gonna be so like, this isnot it.
Phil (08:43):
Wow.
Adam (08:44):
And I was like, okay.
But I think this, that's whatlit the fire for recovery.
For real.
Yeah.
Because I feel like that was thetipping point when I stepped out
of the way and allowed God in.
Realize that I'm not thesmartest human being in the
world and I don't, I'm notsupposed to understand why
things are the way they are.
That was the tipping point thateverything's, it makes sense
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now.
And I went back to initially Ihad a guy at Walmart that caught
me shoplifting before I gotcaught with the dope in 2023.
And I had to go sit down for 45days.
I went back and apologized tothat guy and I told him, I said,
man, you saved my life.
I didn't, not necessarily stopme at that point, but he was the
catalyst that slowed me down.
Phil (09:27):
Wow.
Adam (09:28):
And the stuff he shared with me about his life, God,
don't put these people in yourway for no reason.
Like we cut up about it.
Now when I go into Walmart,'cause at first I would go in
there with all my money in myhand.
I'm not stealing.
I'm buying my stuff this time.
But I didn't get banned fromthat Walmart.
I went back to court for thosecharges and they dismissed them
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in recovery.
But whatever happens, Jesus goeswith me and I'm sober.
Wow.
Yeah.
I talked to the dude last night.
I said, man, if they give you 25years, you can go in there sober
and you, it will be a lotbetter.
The experience you would havethe other way.
If what it is, they can't takeit away from me.
You know what I mean?
Even if I lose everything todayand end up on the street, I will
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have a new piece.
Wow.
That's awesome.
That's what Jesus brings.
Phil (10:14):
So you, how many kids do you have
Adam (10:16):
now?
I got a two, a 16-year-old andan 18 month old.
Phil (10:20):
Okay.
Adam (10:20):
Yeah.
And you're part of both of theirlives?
I'm part of both of their lives.
My daughter, my oldest foundJesus at the same time.
I did separate from me.
Wow.
We weren't talking.
She stopped talking to me forthree years.
'cause she was so scared I wasgonna die and she wanted me to
get help.
And so a few months after I gotinto treatment, she finally
started talking to me.
And now we is talking on thephone.
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I about her shoes and stuff.
But we both got a shoe problem.
She, she started traveling toyouth groups to find her place.
Wow.
And she goes to Cascade Hills.
She enjoys it.
She shared about me in front ofthe whole thing.
And it, I'm not the guy.
I remember at one point sheasked my wife, she said, will
you tell Dad to panhandle on theother side of town?
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'cause my friends are gonna seehim.
To now where I walked in herwork the other day and she's not
dad, don't come in here.
She's what you doing?
I'm just checking it out.
And she's okay with it.
We stood there and talked, wow,this is at the trampoline part.
There's kids in, she's notembarrassed anymore, but we can
talk about God together.
And her dog passed away a couplemonths ago and I was able to
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tell her prior to him passingthat this is God's will.
Whatever happens, this is whatwe have to accept it.
And it's part of life and we caneither grow from it or not.
You know what I mean?
But we wouldn't have had theseconversations had I not found
God, I probably wouldn't haveeven talked to her when it all
passed.
But we prepared for it.
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And, she knows the way, sheknows what the solution is.
There's so much, there's so muchthat'ss.
Awesome.
This bro, this right here to beable to afford the opportunity
to do this podcast.
I go to Las Vegas on Saturday tosee grateful Ed and John Mayer.
Wow.
It's just stuff that happens andeverything isn't gonna be like,
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they don't say that your life'sgonna be perfect.
It's way better even on the baddays.
But I've been blessed to havebeen able to be one that the
relationships have rebuilt theirselves.
I talked to my uncle sometimes,he lives in Canada.
He said, man, I ha I said, I'mglad that my sister didn't write
me off.
And she held out hope.
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She was tough.
She didn't talk to me for a longtime, but she knew that's what
I, that, that gift ofdesperation.
I needed to not have anybodysending me money for food or
anything.
I needed to feel it.
Yeah.
And he said, Adam, I wrote youoff.
I had your funeral.
Basically.
He said, I'm ecstatic thatyou're back.
But that's what I did to myself.
I wrote myself off, wow.
(12:50):
Wow.
Phil (12:50):
how about you and your wife now?
Are y'all talking much or wetalk
Adam (12:54):
We, we won't get back together.
That's it's just been too much.
But we talk.
She's I still have tocommunicate through her to talk
to the youngest.
Yeah.
Linen.
For somebody that was neversupposed to have kids'cause of
chemotherapy, to be blessed withtwo children.
Wow.
Even though they're way age, agedifferent.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
Those are powerful things Ishould have paid attention to a
(13:16):
long time ago,
Phil (13:17):
yeah.
Adam (13:18):
where are you working at?
So I work with some guys inrecovery.
I remodel houses and it's payingthe bills and that's all I need
to do, yeah.
I'm just enjoying daily journey.
I try not to think too far inthe forward or the past.
Yeah.
Just
Phil (13:33):
every day with Jesus.
Yep.
That's awesome, man.
As you think back of your, overyour story, is there any
highlights of wisdom that youwould like to call out?
Maybe to just share with anybodythat's listening?
Adam (13:45):
There's a lot of things that my dad told me that I've
carried with me my whole life,and they're pretty simple.
One being when my mother wassick, she was at her disease
progressed so fast that it waskilled all the muscles in her
body.
She had to relearn how to talklift a finger, swallow.
So the first time we were gonnago see her in Atlanta, first
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time after she was inhospitalized, she was in bad
shape and she was on a headtrauma floor, people with halos.
And my dad, I remember himpreparing us for that in the
laundry room.
We spent a lot of time in thelaundry room.
And this was profound too.
For years.
I didn't understand why we werealways in the laundry room, but
he was catching up on washingclothes because he was outta
town so much.
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Like I know that now havingkids.
But anyway, we were in thelaundry room and he said, we're
gonna go up here and see yourmama.
She's on this floor because sheneeds intensive care, but she's
not some of these people aregonna be in bad shape.
And he said, just remember, itcould always be worse.
And I've always when stuff wasreally bad, I always thought
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like somebody's got it worse,even in my dark day.
I remember that I think thatespecially with recovery, if
people just will just give it alittle bit of time, like it's
hard.
Very hard to see.
The change while it's happening.
Phil (15:05):
Yeah.
Adam (15:05):
I think six months is when I realized all this stuff that
we've been talking about haschanged.
Just hang on.
You know what I mean?
Like it gets better andeverything, everything the Bible
has promised me, everything thisfellowship I follow has promised
me, has come true in my life.
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And they didn't lie to me.
I was the reason that it wasn'table to progress.
I know that it's, I know it'svery hard, not the work of it's
easy.
Like for me, everything thelittle stuff I had to change to
clear the wreckage of 30 yearsit wasn't asking a lot to me.
But I know that it seemed likethat for a long time.
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That's why I neverwholeheartedly tried to get
sober or tried to find God.
It's a few.
They ask a few simple things ofyou.
One book followed by anotherbook.
You've got two books that arevery important.
It changes your whole life.
Like you could have bypassed allthat turmoil and just read that
book originally.
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Either one of'em, but both of'emtogether, really.
You're doing good if you get'emboth together.
If you're talking about theYeah, I felt the, the Alcoholics
Anonymous book and Yeah.
Yeah.
That book has saved my life.
I can't promote that thatfellowship.
But I'm, I've been a greatrecovering junkie, but that
program in particular has savedmy life.
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The fellowship you're talkingabout?
Yes.
And I don't necessarily followthe other one for drugs.
Phil (16:38):
Wow.
Adam (16:38):
It's just, I don't know, man.
It's profound, and the way thatthings were organized long
before me, and it's spirit it'sall spiritual man.
It's if you don't think it'sspiritual, the fact that you're
sitting here and not on thestreet doing drugs is a
spiritual thing.
It's a God moment.
Phil (16:57):
Yeah.
Adam (16:58):
Wow.
And it's just hard.
It's hard to get past that first90 days and sit long enough, I
think at least four months.
To get the stuff to stop goingin your head, the thoughts of,
oh, this stuff happened, or Idid this or I did this.
Nobody's ever gonna talk to mebecause I was such an awful
human being, and eventually youjust have to say, Hey, that was
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what it was.
That's not what it is now.
That's not who I am.
When I think about the guy thatwould walk from flat rock to
Macon Road every day, it seemslike a alternate dimension.
That's not even the same realityor like alternate universe.
Phil (17:36):
Yeah,
Adam (17:37):
because unfortunately I live in Columbus, so I have to
frequent stores that I used tosit in their bathroom and get
high.
There's not a whole lot, MaconRoad North that I didn't use
their facilities to get.
And I had to come to terms withthat and know that, that was
part of it and that's what Ineeded to do.
I had to go through all that.
The deaths in my life, I used tobe like, why me?
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Why am I the only one stillaround?
I've lost a lot of friends veryyoung who murders, car wrecks
drugs.
I know now that happens so thatI can value human life.
And I know that people are.
Amazing.
And interactions with people.
Not to say you aren't gonna havebad ones, but I don't live
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expecting those, yeah.
And people make bad choices,fortunately I don't feel like I
have room to judge anybody'causeI was at the bottom of the
bottom.
And it's, I'm grateful, man.
I'm grateful, wow.
Phil (18:33):
Wow.
Well, Thank you for being here,Adam.
Any last comment you wanna make?
Adam (18:37):
I should have talked about the homeless community a little
bit more.
Phil (18:40):
What do you wanna say about it?
Adam (18:41):
So there's a misconception in Columbus.
My story might have fueled thata little bit, but what I found,
cause there's a lot morehomeless people than we are
told.
Yeah.
Or the census tells us.
Phil (18:52):
Yeah.
Adam (18:52):
I would meet families that were homeless and it wasn't my
story that I was just entitledkid that wanted to get high and
it got away from me.
I'm talking about people thatare homeless because of things
not in their control.
And there's a lot, there's a lotof economics incur or economic
things that have put them inthat situation.
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Trauma.
A lot of people on the streetare not on drugs more than you
would think.
And so I just feel like people,like in the community, how can
we build a million dollarstadiums when people are
starving in the street?
And I know you still want yourcity to be pretty, but all these
things breed the other stuffthat's wrong in our community,
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the violence and the the gangculture.
All this stems from homelessnessand, or, hunger and things that
are not necessarily in thepeople's control at the point
that they decide to take thisother route.
Yeah.
Uh, Safe house, they are, thething that they're doing there,
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I didn't take the benefits fromthem when I was homeless, but
they did everything in theirpower to help me get off the
street and then remain off thestreet.
Yeah.
And it's tremendously hard to gofrom homeless to.
Model citizen or thriving.
Phil (20:13):
Yeah.
Adam (20:14):
It's a huge leap to go from on the street to just
gainfully employed.
And that's where these programshelp and benefit.
And I know that it's not prettybecause, it's it's not pretty to
look at, but a lot of thesepeople, man, I was, I wanted a
change so bad and didn't knowwhat to do, if you don't have
resources in your community,then you don't have the solution
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offered to the people who arewant out.
They want something different.
And so then their options arebreaking your house steal to get
what they need.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And it's a tremendous thing tofeed humans.
I used to get real mad about thesidewalks in Columbus.
There aren't a lot, a lot of youget on the other side of town,
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it wasn't built with sidewalks,but now there's people
everywhere on the street.
But just, I'm compassionate tothe homeless situation.
And even if the person in my,like in my situation, even if
they're getting they're askingfor money or something because
they're want to get high.
They're just trying to make it,I try not judge'em for that.
I guess I would rather pray,give them something to drink
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than give'em cash.
But at the end of the day,they're gonna get it anyway.
And they're just trying tosurvive.
And I, I can't say enough aboutStephanie.
Stephanie is above and beyondfor everybody that comes into
contact with her.
Wow.
And she has tremendously helpedme and, just finding the place
to live and no, not even that.
When I left Freedom House, Ididn't know if I wanted to go
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into another program or get aplace.
So I had a transitional periodwhere I was staying at the Motel
six downtown for a couple weeks,and then I found an apartment
and moved in that.
But she was like, callingplaces, she's gonna checking up
on you, making sure you, oh,she, yeah, she's always gonna
check on me.
But all of'em down there really,and the guys at Freedom House, I
still see them on the regular,like the guys that run that
(22:03):
place.
And I go in there and talk toMike and I say, look, it's a lot
more peaceful here now that I'moutta here.
Like, when I come back, I'mlike, man, this place is
straight.
But I tell them all, y'all savedmy life and had y'all not.
But I ain't causing problems.
They knew I was working aprogram from the beginning.
But you get complacent withthings and then things start
irritating you.
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And fortunately I've got enoughclarity now to know that means
that I've just outgrownsomething and it's time for me
to go to the next chapter.
And I still go to Freedom Houseand hold meetings with the guys
in there.
It is, it's an awesome, it's anawesome thing.
I know we've got other programsin Columbus that help the
homeless and the people who arestruggling with addiction.
But, safe House the way FreedomHouse runs, there's not another
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one like that in the state.
And it's just a leg up.
It's that step because that'sthe problem.
To go from the bottom floor ofhomelessness with nothing, just
to get somewhere to sleep andshower where you can actually go
to work and not look like you'vebeen living on the street.
And that's what Freedom Housedoes.
Even on the shelter side.
Yeah.
It's that reprieve.
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Like you, you can bathe, youcan, we're gonna feed you.
We're not gonna charge you adime.
We're gonna help you save yourmoney.
Help you get go through jobtraining at Goodwill and we're
gonna require you to do thesethings, but it's really just us
helping you do these things forreal, because let's be real.
You wouldn't be here if you weregood at helping yourself.
Daily devotion, it's even there,it's not forced upon you to
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believe what they believe.
They offer two, twodenominations, either non or
Christian devotion in themorning.
If you don't believe what webelieve, we're still gonna give
you a place to pray.
That stuff's cool to me
Phil (23:43):
yeah.
Adam (23:43):
And had I known that it was there, I don't know that I
would've gone sooner, really?
But it is I'm grateful.
I found out when I found out andI'm grateful they were willing
to take me and really they letme take up a bed and I wasn't in
the program, so they just let mestay.
You know what I mean?
Phil (24:01):
Yeah.
Adam (24:02):
And I know they could have moved somebody in there to put
'em into treatment, thetreatment program.
And they just let me be there, Iremember coming back from them,
turning me down at the treatmentprogram.
I was like, Amy, are you gonnakick me out?
And she was like, no, do this,and this.
Wow.
Which is the way it needed togo.
Yeah.
I think that I needed, that'swhat I needed at that point.
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And it worked.
It worked.
Praise the Lord.
Amen.
Man.
That's awesome.
Amen.
Praise the Lord.
Phil (24:28):
That's so
Adam (24:28):
good.
So good.
Phil (24:29):
Wow, man.
You've shared a lot of goodthings.
Yeah.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
You mind if I close this in aword of prayer?
I would love that.
Father, thank you for yourgrace.
Lord, just thank you for Jesus.
Thank you.
That you were willing to sendhim to die for us to pay the
payment for our sins, to givehis life.
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Thank you.
That he rose again three dayslater, that he is victorious,
that he is the king and Father,thank you for showing us how to
love.
I just pray you'd bless AdamLord, guide his path, direct
him.
Bless him.
Help him to walk with you everyday, to draw close to you, to
let you just continue totransform and change his life
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and be with his kids, Lord, getinto their hearts and their
lives and just guide their pathsaccording to your will.
In Jesus name I pray.
Amen.
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it's just hard.
It's hard to get past that first90 days and sit long enough, I
think at least four months.
To get the stuff to stop goingin your head, the thoughts of,
oh, this stuff happened, or Idid this or I did this.
Nobody's ever gonna talk to mebecause I was such an awful
human being, and eventually youjust have to say, Hey, that was
(00:22):
what it was.
That's not what it is now.
That's not who I am.
Phil Shuler (00:26):
HellO, and welcome to Renew, Restore, Rejoice, the
Safe House Ministries podcast,where we share stories of the
power of God to change livesthrough Safe House Ministries.
Safe House Ministries is basedout of Columbus, Georgia, and we
are a ministry that exists tolove and serve people who have
been affected by addiction,homelessness, and incarceration.
I'm your host, Phil Shuler, theDirector of Development for Safe
(00:49):
House Ministries here inColumbus, Georgia.
Safe House serves over 1, 100people each month as they
transition back into ourcommunity.
Safe House provides an abundanceof services including 213 beds
for homeless individuals andfamilies, case management for
obtaining job skills and longterm employment.
Over 300 hot meals every day,free clothing, and so much more.
(01:10):
One of the most incredibleservices that Safe House
provides is our free 9 12 monthintensive outpatient substance
abuse program, which is statelicensed, CARF accredited, and
has no wait list.
Almost 100 percent ofindividuals staying in our
shelters who follow our threephase program become fully
employed within a few months.
And 68 percent of individualswho stay at least one night with
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us End up finding work andmoving into their own home.
Thank you for being with ustoday and listening to our
podcast.
We hope you enjoy this week'sepisode.
Adam (01:39):
So I remember sitting in a meeting and saying I didn't know
how to pray.
I didn't know what that lookedlike.
I knew the concept, but how tolike truly pray.
And my sponsor is a devoutCatholic unwavering faith, and
he gave me so much grace.
Like he would say, just talk tohim.
Or I'd say, man I don't know ifI'm gonna be Catholic or go
(02:01):
back.
I grew up Presbyterian, firstPres downtown if I'm gonna be
Presbyterian Baptist.
He was like, Hey, you're rightwhere you need to be.
And that's all he'd say to me.
And, he would share on hisfaith.
But it was never, you need to,or you've got to.
He was, oh, he just, you'reright where you need to be.
And eventually, I remember oneday in a meeting at Freedom
(02:22):
House, I said, maybe I foundspirituality, or maybe it's here
and I'm in the way of it.
And when I tell you it was like,I wanna say that day, but I
could be wrong.
It was quick.
I did a, something said, whydon't you meditate?
'cause I've meditated over theyears and I'm pretty good at it.
And I did this guided meditationin my room in the quiet, which
(02:43):
is hard to find it freedom.
But, I shut the door.
Fortunately, I was there duringthe day and most of the guys
were gone to class because Ididn't have necessarily a
program.
I would go to meetings and stuffat night with my sponsor.
But I had that moment and it waslike something like, what,
whatever made me decide tomeditate that day.
(03:03):
And I haven't yet at that pointin probably a year or longer.
And I did a guided meditationfinding your Spirit guide.
So I'm thinking, all right, I'mgonna meet an Indian, native
American.
He's gonna have a bare skin overhim.
This is just, that's not whathappened.
It was the whole thing, likeyou're in a, you're in a grassy
(03:25):
field.
There's a creek.
Take it in, your spirit guideis, it walks out and it's just
an immense white light.
Like I can tell it's a person, Idon't know.
I knew who it was, of course,but you couldn't see like facial
features and stuff.
It was just bright white light.
(03:45):
And he walks up she's guidingthis.
She says, your spirit guidewalks up to you and tell him
what you want to tell him.
Talk to your spirit guide.
And I said, man, I looked foryou for 30 years.
I just wanna sit here insilence.
I just wanna sit here.
Just, I just wanna take this in.
And he sat on the bed next to meright there, and I felt it.
(04:06):
I could feel my eyes wereclosed.
I could see the light in my eye,like the direction he was
sitting.
And I just sat there, man.
And so much peace.
It was so much peace.
And for somebody to, soA-D-H-D-A-D-D like me it was
like, whoa.
And it was a comp.
And and then I saw my parentsacross the field and they were
(04:27):
like a bright, I knew it wasthem.
My mom wasn't in a wheelchair,she was walking at the end of
the meditation.
She said, say goodbye to yourspirit guy.
And it wasn't like that for me.
He opened his arms and I likeascended in this light.
I don't know what that means,but I don't need to, and when I
tell you that, I just I wishpeople could know what that
(04:50):
feels like.
It's amazing, man.
I can't, I just can't, there'sno words to describe what that
experience is and that I wasable or worthy to feel it.
'cause I don't have anything tooffer him in my heart, and
that's it.
Yeah.
I don't have any, anything togive a king, yeah.
(05:12):
You're talking about Jesus.
Yeah.
But he didn't need anything,man.
He just wanted me to surrenderand just, I,
Phil (05:19):
wow.
Adam (05:19):
So since then, this was December.
Now, last December I was inJacksonville, Florida, in Publix
parking lot.
This December I met my Lord inSavior Jesus Christ.
And I can listen to songs likeKings and Countries Sings O komo
come Emmanuel.
They have a version of it and itis so powerful to me.
Phil (05:42):
Yeah.
Adam (05:43):
That's the month I met my Lord and Savior, the month we
celebrated his birth.
Wow.
And to this day, like I even atFreedom House, they hear me in
there and it is April or Marchand I'm playing, oh come
Emanuel, because I just love it,man.
And Emmanuel, the God with End,this is what I feel.
And like I told you I walkedaway from that meditation
(06:05):
feeling like I knew all theanswers to life, but it was
just, and I don't know what, Idon't know what those are, but I
guess it's the peace and theounce of grace, the little bit
of grace that I got.
It's like everything's all rightman.
And I know that everything'sokay.
Yeah.
I value human beings wherethey're at, even if they're not,
(06:30):
even if I don't necessarily dowhat they're doing or their
preferences, it's okay.
Like even if they're not even ifthey're confused spiritually or
not that they're, if they'retotally atheist or satanic, it's
okay.
It's okay.
That's where you're right whereyou need to be.
(06:50):
And had anybody counted me outwhen I was lost, I wouldn't have
found what I found.
So I know that there can't bejudgment and I can't judge
people.
I try to be respectful, butsometimes I get moved to say
that, I'm met my Lord and saviorJesus Christ, and I can't help
it.
Yeah.
But I still, I like, I don'tworry about the church anymore.
(07:13):
I don't worry about whatreligion I'm gonna follow.
I know that he's okay with me.
Phil (07:19):
You're just gonna follow Jesus.
Adam (07:20):
I'm gonna follow Jesus.
And he told me it was okay.
You had it not been okay.
He wouldn't have met me.
You know what I mean?
I just it's profound, man.
And I know I spent a lot ofyears like in, in these programs
and they talk about a profoundspiritual experience, and then
one that just trickles inslowly.
I was like, oh, that's nevergonna happen.
(07:42):
And it took 20 something years,but mine was the most profound
in my eyes.
But I don't know.
It makes it so now life I'mstill bothered by things.
But it's not gonna be that bad.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I, and and I'm grateful.
I'm grateful for the fellowshipI have and through Christ and
through the people that areworking this, the way they're
(08:04):
supposed to be working it tomake a better life.
I wouldn't trade it for theworld, man.
I got everything I need, my, Italk to my children again.
My sister and I arecommunicating daily.
People have given me chances, Iwouldn't have the townhouse over
on Cherokee, had somebody notgiving me a chance.
Wow.
Because I don't have credit.
It's all garbage.
(08:25):
And, I'm a convict ex-con.
It, there's so many blessingsWow.
That have come.
My brother-in-law told me when Icame out of that spiritual
awakening, I wanted to telleverybody, and he said, bro,
more will be for real.
You're gonna be so like, this isnot it.
Phil (08:43):
Wow.
Adam (08:44):
And I was like, okay.
But I think this, that's whatlit the fire for recovery.
For real.
Yeah.
Because I feel like that was thetipping point when I stepped out
of the way and allowed God in.
Realize that I'm not thesmartest human being in the
world and I don't, I'm notsupposed to understand why
things are the way they are.
That was the tipping point thateverything's, it makes sense
(09:06):
now.
And I went back to initially Ihad a guy at Walmart that caught
me shoplifting before I gotcaught with the dope in 2023.
And I had to go sit down for 45days.
I went back and apologized tothat guy and I told him, I said,
man, you saved my life.
I didn't, not necessarily stopme at that point, but he was the
catalyst that slowed me down.
Phil (09:27):
Wow.
Adam (09:28):
And the stuff he shared with me about his life, God,
don't put these people in yourway for no reason.
Like we cut up about it.
Now when I go into Walmart,'cause at first I would go in
there with all my money in myhand.
I'm not stealing.
I'm buying my stuff this time.
But I didn't get banned fromthat Walmart.
I went back to court for thosecharges and they dismissed them
(09:48):
in recovery.
But whatever happens, Jesus goeswith me and I'm sober.
Wow.
Yeah.
I talked to the dude last night.
I said, man, if they give you 25years, you can go in there sober
and you, it will be a lotbetter.
The experience you would havethe other way.
If what it is, they can't takeit away from me.
You know what I mean?
Even if I lose everything todayand end up on the street, I will
(10:08):
have a new piece.
Wow.
That's awesome.
That's what Jesus brings.
Phil (10:14):
So you, how many kids do you have
Adam (10:16):
now?
I got a two, a 16-year-old andan 18 month old.
Phil (10:20):
Okay.
Adam (10:20):
Yeah.
And you're part of both of theirlives?
I'm part of both of their lives.
My daughter, my oldest foundJesus at the same time.
I did separate from me.
Wow.
We weren't talking.
She stopped talking to me forthree years.
'cause she was so scared I wasgonna die and she wanted me to
get help.
And so a few months after I gotinto treatment, she finally
started talking to me.
And now we is talking on thephone.
(10:42):
I about her shoes and stuff.
But we both got a shoe problem.
She, she started traveling toyouth groups to find her place.
Wow.
And she goes to Cascade Hills.
She enjoys it.
She shared about me in front ofthe whole thing.
And it, I'm not the guy.
I remember at one point sheasked my wife, she said, will
you tell Dad to panhandle on theother side of town?
(11:03):
'cause my friends are gonna seehim.
To now where I walked in herwork the other day and she's not
dad, don't come in here.
She's what you doing?
I'm just checking it out.
And she's okay with it.
We stood there and talked, wow,this is at the trampoline part.
There's kids in, she's notembarrassed anymore, but we can
talk about God together.
And her dog passed away a couplemonths ago and I was able to
(11:26):
tell her prior to him passingthat this is God's will.
Whatever happens, this is whatwe have to accept it.
And it's part of life and we caneither grow from it or not.
You know what I mean?
But we wouldn't have had theseconversations had I not found
God, I probably wouldn't haveeven talked to her when it all
passed.
But we prepared for it.
(11:46):
And, she knows the way, sheknows what the solution is.
There's so much, there's so muchthat'ss.
Awesome.
This bro, this right here to beable to afford the opportunity
to do this podcast.
I go to Las Vegas on Saturday tosee grateful Ed and John Mayer.
Wow.
It's just stuff that happens andeverything isn't gonna be like,
(12:09):
they don't say that your life'sgonna be perfect.
It's way better even on the baddays.
But I've been blessed to havebeen able to be one that the
relationships have rebuilt theirselves.
I talked to my uncle sometimes,he lives in Canada.
He said, man, I ha I said, I'mglad that my sister didn't write
me off.
And she held out hope.
(12:29):
She was tough.
She didn't talk to me for a longtime, but she knew that's what
I, that, that gift ofdesperation.
I needed to not have anybodysending me money for food or
anything.
I needed to feel it.
Yeah.
And he said, Adam, I wrote youoff.
I had your funeral.
Basically.
He said, I'm ecstatic thatyou're back.
But that's what I did to myself.
I wrote myself off, wow.
(12:50):
Wow.
Phil (12:50):
how about you and your wife now?
Are y'all talking much or wetalk
Adam (12:54):
We, we won't get back together.
That's it's just been too much.
But we talk.
She's I still have tocommunicate through her to talk
to the youngest.
Yeah.
Linen.
For somebody that was neversupposed to have kids'cause of
chemotherapy, to be blessed withtwo children.
Wow.
Even though they're way age, agedifferent.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
Those are powerful things Ishould have paid attention to a
(13:16):
long time ago,
Phil (13:17):
yeah.
Adam (13:18):
where are you working at?
So I work with some guys inrecovery.
I remodel houses and it's payingthe bills and that's all I need
to do, yeah.
I'm just enjoying daily journey.
I try not to think too far inthe forward or the past.
Yeah.
Just
Phil (13:33):
every day with Jesus.
Yep.
That's awesome, man.
As you think back of your, overyour story, is there any
highlights of wisdom that youwould like to call out?
Maybe to just share with anybodythat's listening?
Adam (13:45):
There's a lot of things that my dad told me that I've
carried with me my whole life,and they're pretty simple.
One being when my mother wassick, she was at her disease
progressed so fast that it waskilled all the muscles in her
body.
She had to relearn how to talklift a finger, swallow.
So the first time we were gonnago see her in Atlanta, first
(14:07):
time after she was inhospitalized, she was in bad
shape and she was on a headtrauma floor, people with halos.
And my dad, I remember himpreparing us for that in the
laundry room.
We spent a lot of time in thelaundry room.
And this was profound too.
For years.
I didn't understand why we werealways in the laundry room, but
he was catching up on washingclothes because he was outta
town so much.
(14:27):
Like I know that now havingkids.
But anyway, we were in thelaundry room and he said, we're
gonna go up here and see yourmama.
She's on this floor because sheneeds intensive care, but she's
not some of these people aregonna be in bad shape.
And he said, just remember, itcould always be worse.
And I've always when stuff wasreally bad, I always thought
(14:48):
like somebody's got it worse,even in my dark day.
I remember that I think thatespecially with recovery, if
people just will just give it alittle bit of time, like it's
hard.
Very hard to see.
The change while it's happening.
Phil (15:05):
Yeah.
Adam (15:05):
I think six months is when I realized all this stuff that
we've been talking about haschanged.
Just hang on.
You know what I mean?
Like it gets better andeverything, everything the Bible
has promised me, everything thisfellowship I follow has promised
me, has come true in my life.
(15:26):
And they didn't lie to me.
I was the reason that it wasn'table to progress.
I know that it's, I know it'svery hard, not the work of it's
easy.
Like for me, everything thelittle stuff I had to change to
clear the wreckage of 30 yearsit wasn't asking a lot to me.
But I know that it seemed likethat for a long time.
(15:48):
That's why I neverwholeheartedly tried to get
sober or tried to find God.
It's a few.
They ask a few simple things ofyou.
One book followed by anotherbook.
You've got two books that arevery important.
It changes your whole life.
Like you could have bypassed allthat turmoil and just read that
book originally.
(16:11):
Either one of'em, but both of'emtogether, really.
You're doing good if you get'emboth together.
If you're talking about theYeah, I felt the, the Alcoholics
Anonymous book and Yeah.
Yeah.
That book has saved my life.
I can't promote that thatfellowship.
But I'm, I've been a greatrecovering junkie, but that
program in particular has savedmy life.
(16:33):
The fellowship you're talkingabout?
Yes.
And I don't necessarily followthe other one for drugs.
Phil (16:38):
Wow.
Adam (16:38):
It's just, I don't know, man.
It's profound, and the way thatthings were organized long
before me, and it's spirit it'sall spiritual man.
It's if you don't think it'sspiritual, the fact that you're
sitting here and not on thestreet doing drugs is a
spiritual thing.
It's a God moment.
Phil (16:57):
Yeah.
Adam (16:58):
Wow.
And it's just hard.
It's hard to get past that first90 days and sit long enough, I
think at least four months.
To get the stuff to stop goingin your head, the thoughts of,
oh, this stuff happened, or Idid this or I did this.
Nobody's ever gonna talk to mebecause I was such an awful
human being, and eventually youjust have to say, Hey, that was
(17:21):
what it was.
That's not what it is now.
That's not who I am.
When I think about the guy thatwould walk from flat rock to
Macon Road every day, it seemslike a alternate dimension.
That's not even the same realityor like alternate universe.
Phil (17:36):
Yeah,
Adam (17:37):
because unfortunately I live in Columbus, so I have to
frequent stores that I used tosit in their bathroom and get
high.
There's not a whole lot, MaconRoad North that I didn't use
their facilities to get.
And I had to come to terms withthat and know that, that was
part of it and that's what Ineeded to do.
I had to go through all that.
The deaths in my life, I used tobe like, why me?
(18:00):
Why am I the only one stillaround?
I've lost a lot of friends veryyoung who murders, car wrecks
drugs.
I know now that happens so thatI can value human life.
And I know that people are.
Amazing.
And interactions with people.
Not to say you aren't gonna havebad ones, but I don't live
(18:21):
expecting those, yeah.
And people make bad choices,fortunately I don't feel like I
have room to judge anybody'causeI was at the bottom of the
bottom.
And it's, I'm grateful, man.
I'm grateful, wow.
Phil (18:33):
Wow.
Well, Thank you for being here,Adam.
Any last comment you wanna make?
Adam (18:37):
I should have talked about the homeless community a little
bit more.
Phil (18:40):
What do you wanna say about it?
Adam (18:41):
So there's a misconception in Columbus.
My story might have fueled thata little bit, but what I found,
cause there's a lot morehomeless people than we are
told.
Yeah.
Or the census tells us.
Phil (18:52):
Yeah.
Adam (18:52):
I would meet families that were homeless and it wasn't my
story that I was just entitledkid that wanted to get high and
it got away from me.
I'm talking about people thatare homeless because of things
not in their control.
And there's a lot, there's a lotof economics incur or economic
things that have put them inthat situation.
(19:14):
Trauma.
A lot of people on the streetare not on drugs more than you
would think.
And so I just feel like people,like in the community, how can
we build a million dollarstadiums when people are
starving in the street?
And I know you still want yourcity to be pretty, but all these
things breed the other stuffthat's wrong in our community,
(19:36):
the violence and the the gangculture.
All this stems from homelessnessand, or, hunger and things that
are not necessarily in thepeople's control at the point
that they decide to take thisother route.
Yeah.
Uh, Safe house, they are, thething that they're doing there,
(19:56):
I didn't take the benefits fromthem when I was homeless, but
they did everything in theirpower to help me get off the
street and then remain off thestreet.
Yeah.
And it's tremendously hard to gofrom homeless to.
Model citizen or thriving.
Phil (20:13):
Yeah.
Adam (20:14):
It's a huge leap to go from on the street to just
gainfully employed.
And that's where these programshelp and benefit.
And I know that it's not prettybecause, it's it's not pretty to
look at, but a lot of thesepeople, man, I was, I wanted a
change so bad and didn't knowwhat to do, if you don't have
resources in your community,then you don't have the solution
(20:37):
offered to the people who arewant out.
They want something different.
And so then their options arebreaking your house steal to get
what they need.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And it's a tremendous thing tofeed humans.
I used to get real mad about thesidewalks in Columbus.
There aren't a lot, a lot of youget on the other side of town,
(20:58):
it wasn't built with sidewalks,but now there's people
everywhere on the street.
But just, I'm compassionate tothe homeless situation.
And even if the person in my,like in my situation, even if
they're getting they're askingfor money or something because
they're want to get high.
They're just trying to make it,I try not judge'em for that.
I guess I would rather pray,give them something to drink
(21:20):
than give'em cash.
But at the end of the day,they're gonna get it anyway.
And they're just trying tosurvive.
And I, I can't say enough aboutStephanie.
Stephanie is above and beyondfor everybody that comes into
contact with her.
Wow.
And she has tremendously helpedme and, just finding the place
to live and no, not even that.
When I left Freedom House, Ididn't know if I wanted to go
(21:41):
into another program or get aplace.
So I had a transitional periodwhere I was staying at the Motel
six downtown for a couple weeks,and then I found an apartment
and moved in that.
But she was like, callingplaces, she's gonna checking up
on you, making sure you, oh,she, yeah, she's always gonna
check on me.
But all of'em down there really,and the guys at Freedom House, I
still see them on the regular,like the guys that run that
(22:03):
place.
And I go in there and talk toMike and I say, look, it's a lot
more peaceful here now that I'moutta here.
Like, when I come back, I'mlike, man, this place is
straight.
But I tell them all, y'all savedmy life and had y'all not.
But I ain't causing problems.
They knew I was working aprogram from the beginning.
But you get complacent withthings and then things start
irritating you.
(22:24):
And fortunately I've got enoughclarity now to know that means
that I've just outgrownsomething and it's time for me
to go to the next chapter.
And I still go to Freedom Houseand hold meetings with the guys
in there.
It is, it's an awesome, it's anawesome thing.
I know we've got other programsin Columbus that help the
homeless and the people who arestruggling with addiction.
But, safe House the way FreedomHouse runs, there's not another
(22:47):
one like that in the state.
And it's just a leg up.
It's that step because that'sthe problem.
To go from the bottom floor ofhomelessness with nothing, just
to get somewhere to sleep andshower where you can actually go
to work and not look like you'vebeen living on the street.
And that's what Freedom Housedoes.
Even on the shelter side.
Yeah.
It's that reprieve.
(23:08):
Like you, you can bathe, youcan, we're gonna feed you.
We're not gonna charge you adime.
We're gonna help you save yourmoney.
Help you get go through jobtraining at Goodwill and we're
gonna require you to do thesethings, but it's really just us
helping you do these things forreal, because let's be real.
You wouldn't be here if you weregood at helping yourself.
Daily devotion, it's even there,it's not forced upon you to
(23:32):
believe what they believe.
They offer two, twodenominations, either non or
Christian devotion in themorning.
If you don't believe what webelieve, we're still gonna give
you a place to pray.
That stuff's cool to me
Phil (23:43):
yeah.
Adam (23:43):
And had I known that it was there, I don't know that I
would've gone sooner, really?
But it is I'm grateful.
I found out when I found out andI'm grateful they were willing
to take me and really they letme take up a bed and I wasn't in
the program, so they just let mestay.
You know what I mean?
Phil (24:01):
Yeah.
Adam (24:02):
And I know they could have moved somebody in there to put
'em into treatment, thetreatment program.
And they just let me be there, Iremember coming back from them,
turning me down at the treatmentprogram.
I was like, Amy, are you gonnakick me out?
And she was like, no, do this,and this.
Wow.
Which is the way it needed togo.
Yeah.
I think that I needed, that'swhat I needed at that point.
(24:22):
And it worked.
It worked.
Praise the Lord.
Amen.
Man.
That's awesome.
Amen.
Praise the Lord.
Phil (24:28):
That's so
Adam (24:28):
good.
So good.
Phil (24:29):
Wow, man.
You've shared a lot of goodthings.
Yeah.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
You mind if I close this in aword of prayer?
I would love that.
Father, thank you for yourgrace.
Lord, just thank you for Jesus.
Thank you.
That you were willing to sendhim to die for us to pay the
payment for our sins, to givehis life.
(24:50):
Thank you.
That he rose again three dayslater, that he is victorious,
that he is the king and Father,thank you for showing us how to
love.
I just pray you'd bless AdamLord, guide his path, direct
him.
Bless him.
Help him to walk with you everyday, to draw close to you, to
let you just continue totransform and change his life
(25:13):
and be with his kids, Lord, getinto their hearts and their
lives and just guide their pathsaccording to your will.
In Jesus name I pray.
Amen.
Phil Shuler (25:24):
We look forward to being with you again next week
as we share another testimonyabout the power and the goodness
of God to change lives throughSafe House Ministries.
if you are someone listening tothis podcast that loves to hear
these stories of the greatthings that God is doing in
changing people's lives for thebetter, and if you would like to
be a part of that work, pleasereach out to us You can reach us
(25:47):
at 2101 Hamilton Road, Columbus,Georgia, 31,904.
You can call us at seven oh sixthree two two.
3 7, 7 3, or you can email us atinfo@safehouse-ministries.com.
Microphone (Samson Q2U Mi (26:02):
Thank you so much for being with us
this week for the renew restoreand rejoice podcast of safe
house ministries, we pray thatGod will bless you this week.
And we look forward to havingyou back with us again next week
for a new episode.
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