April 9, 2025 • 32 mins
The world feels increasingly unstable - wars rage, disasters intensify, and moral confusion abounds. Where can we find genuine peace in such turbulent times? Rick and Lauren tackle this vital question head-on, drawing a sharp distinction between what the world calls peace and the supernatural peace that God provides.
"The world's peace depends on circumstances," Rick explains, "but God's peace defies circumstances." Throughout this intimate conversation, they explore how temporary comforts - relationships, money, food, substances - merely mask our pain while God offers something profoundly different: an inexplicable inner stillness that remains even when everything external is falling apart.
Lauren vulnerably shares her personal journey through family breakdown, detailing how her father abruptly abandoned their family and faith, leaving deep wounds of bitterness and unforgiveness. "I let it destroy my heart," she confesses, describing her path from anger to surrender. Her testimony powerfully illustrates how peace emerges not when problems disappear but when we finally release control to God.
The hosts weave Scripture throughout their discussion, returning often to promises like Isaiah 26:3: "You will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast because they trust in you." Their conversation acknowledges the real challenges believers face while offering practical guidance on maintaining peace amid chaos.
As Lauren beautifully states, "His peace isn't about perfect circumstances; it's about His perfect presence." If you're struggling to find stillness in your soul or battling fears you can't shake, this episode offers both comfort and challenge - reminding us that true peace comes not from fixed circumstances but from a fixed focus on the Prince of Peace.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The world is changing and time is running out.
This is Renewed Mindsets, wherewe confront Biblical truth
head-on, no sugarcoating, nocompromise.
We expose false doctrine,reveal fulfilled prophecy and
shine light on the demonicdeception of these last days,
(00:21):
but we also stand firm on thehope of Christ's return, the
call to holiness and the urgencyof true salvation.
It's time to renew your mind,for the time is now.
Let's go, boys.
Hey, welcome to RenewedMindsets.
(00:45):
I'm Rick and I'm so glad you'rehere and today we have Lauren
with us.
Lauren, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm great, rick, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Are you excited?
I'm very excited, yeah, same.
Here we're jumping intosomething that I think hits home
for a lot of people right now.
We jumping into something thatI think hits home for a lot of
people right now.
It's part two of the latestepisode of Finding Peace in the
End Times.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And we're not talking about just any kind of peace,
but we're talking about God'speace, the kind that holds you
steady when everything aroundyou is shaking.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, especially during this time where nothing
seems certain, everything isgoing to chaos.
Some people might find it hardto find a steady peace.
It's like the whole atmosphereis just heavy right now, isn't
it?
Yes, yes, there's worldly peacethat people are searching for,
that people are finding comfortin all their materialistic
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things and all their money andhouses and relationships, but
none of that is going withanybody when we all check out of
here.
There's a greater peace thatsurpasses all understanding.
Ultimately, that comes fromJesus Christ only.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Exactly.
Jesus even warned us about thisin John 10.10.
He said the thief comes only tosteal and kill and destroy.
Peace is one of the firstthings that the devil goes after
.
If he can get your peace, hecan cloud your judgment, kill
your joy and distract you fromyour purpose.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's right, and his biggest weapon is fear.
Fear is something he will getyou with every single time if
you let him, no matter what itis, no matter what life
circumstance comes your way.
If it's fear of losing a job,fear of losing somebody you love
, he's going to get you with itevery single time and it plays
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on your mind heavy if you let it, and that will ultimately steal
your peace and your joy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, the peace that Jesus offers is so different
than what the world offers,right, right.
John 14, 27 says my peace Igive you, not as the world gives
, and that's huge, because theworld's peace depends on
circumstances, when everything'scalm and everything's going
your way.
But God's peace defiescircumstances.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right.
God's peace is when the stormsand the wind and the seas are
raging around you.
God's peace is knowing thathe's there with you, no matter
what's going on.
The world offers you atemporary peace by giving you,
you know, comfort in your, yourfamily, your job, your money,
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even things such as like peopleturn to alcohol, people turn to
drugs, people turn to all ofthat worldly stuff.
The cheeseburgers, yes, yes,all the cheeseburgers.
Food.
Food is a big one that will getmany, many people.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, the difference is that you can be in the middle
of global chaos and still havestillness in your spirit,
because you know who's really incontrol, and that's kind of
where we are right now, in thesetimes, and that's.
The challenge, though, is tokeep your eyes fixed on God.
Isaiah 26.3 says you will keephim in perfect peace whose mind
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is stayed on you.
We got to keep our mind stayedor fixed on God, even when it
feels like everything's fallingapart.
But, that's also our strength.
The devil can't steal what wesurrender fully to God.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right and like in Hebrews 11.10, it says Abraham
was confidently looking forwardto a city with eternal
foundations, a city designed andbuilt by God himself.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, true.
So what we're going to talkabout today is how to do that,
how to hold on to God's peace ina world that's falling apart,
because peace isn't passive.
Peace is powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Let's do it, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So stick with us, we're just getting started.
If you've been struggling tofind your rest, or find rest in
your soul, or if fear has beencreeping in more than you'd like
to admit, you're not alone.
You got two people here whohave experienced it recently.
But there's a way to fight back, and it starts with remembering
who your peace comes from.
So I'm just going to jump rightin, Lauren, with everything
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that's going on in the worldwars, disasters, you know
weather situations we just hadflooding from a couple hours of
rain in the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Moral confusion.
Do we even want to get intomoral confusion?
Men, women, who can define that?
How do you personally definepeace in this season?
How do you?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
personally define peace in this season.
For me personally, when itcomes to the wars and all the
disasters and moral confusionwith everything for one, I just
have to remember that the Bibletells us that this stuff will
happen.
The Bible prophesies that allof these things will happen,
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from the wars to all thedisasters.
It's the birthing pains thatthis world is going through.
But you have to know that word,you have to be in your word and
reading it to know that thesethings will happen.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Give me an example.
So, like I love putting you onthe spot.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All of the wars.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, I mean, give me an example of scripture.
Oh gosh, how about I throw youone Second?
Timothy 1.7.
For God has not given us aspirit of fear, but of power and
of love and of a sound mind.
It really to me that tells usit doesn't matter what's
happening yeah, war is bad, andif bombs were exploding around
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us?
Yeah, I'm gonna be scared yeah.
I'm gonna be scared, but thereneeds to be a peace in that.
I mean, it's all well and goodto say it because bombs aren't
going off around us, but we haveto know that if that bomb lands
right on our heads, that thatnext moment we'll be standing in
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front of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's right.
A lot of things are easier saidthan done, because I would
definitely be scared.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, I was watching the house of David and it was
the final episode.
Boy, you are making a lot ofnoise over there.
Someone doesn't know podcastetiquette.
I was watching the house of.
David, it's okay, you're,you're, you're little, you're
young.
Again, I was watching the houseof David it was one of the
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final episodes and that girlthat David likes, I can't think
of her name.
What's her name?
The princess what's her name?
The princess yeah, you hadn'tseen the last episode no, oh
well, I'm not caught up so he'sabout to go fight Goliath.
And she said are you scared?
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And I'm like, ooh, I got tohear this.
And he said terrified, I'mterrified, he was terrified
Physically in the world.
Our flesh has got to be scaredand fearful.
Yeah, but our inner man needsto know there's something
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different.
That's the only reason thatDavid was able to stand against
Goliath is because his faith inGod.
He knew that God was there toprotect him, no matter what.
Even if he got hurt and died,he knew that God was there to
protect him.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No matter what?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Even if he got hurt and died, he wasn't fearful of
that.
But everybody's going to bescared going up against a giant
that can break him in half likea matchstick.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
right there was a stronger man inside of David
that was able to help him defeatGoliath Right.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But we all have that man in us.
Yeah, we all have that man.
And we all have that man in usyeah, we all have that man.
And that's what that, timothysays for God has not given us a
spirit of fear, but of power andof love and a sound mind.
Those three things power, loveand a sound mind counteract the
fear right, you're going to havesome, you're going to be scared
.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I would definitely be scared.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think pastor was talking the other night about
the covering and having ablanket that's too small and
that happens to me all the time.
I'll be half asleep and I'llhear my name.
I don't know where that soundcomes from.
I don't know.
I want to think it's God, butI'm like.
I don't think God's voice wouldscare me.
And what's the first thing I dobefore I say Jesus, I pull my
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feet inside the covers becauseit can't get you when you're
under the covers, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Or have you ever been like so asleep that you wake up
out from under the coverscompletely and you're freezing?
You wake up freezing cold.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I like that, though, cause you can put those
covers on and you're freezing.
You wake up freezing cold, yeah, I like that, though, because
you can put those covers on andyou're warm again.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
No, that's not a good feeling, though, to wake up
cold.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, I'd rather wake up cold than hot and sweaty.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a nice.
Anyway, man, you are thenoisiest person on that
microphone, so, gosh, i'm'mgonna have to edit all this out
of.
People gonna think I'm mean toyou?
No, keep it in okay, I'll keepit in people need to know that
(10:31):
you're mean, so how?
Do you think that peace fromgod differs from the kind of
peace that the world promises?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
so the peace from god , it firstly, the world is going
to offer you materialisticthings to give you peace.
It's going to offer you, youmay find temporary peace, which
is the world's peace, is comfort.
That's what the world's peaceis.
You can find that inrelationships.
You can find that in jobs,financial situations, financial
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situations.
But the peace of God differsfrom the world in the fact that
you don't none of that worldlystuff is going to satisfy you
like God can, what he does foryou, what he can give you, all
his promises that he promises tous.
There's nothing like I'm notplaying really bad.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What you're playing.
There's nothing like what.
Well see, what you just saidwas you were talking about
relationships.
Let's back up to that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'm a year or two older than you right?
Yes, so.
I spent a lot of years lookingto find peace in relationships.
And what did I say in thatverse from 2 Timothy?
What did that say?
Peace, peace, lord.
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How did I just forget it?
God has not given us a spiritof fear, but of power and of
love and a sound mind.
Well, I looked for power andlove and a sound mind in
relationships, and every singleone of them crumbled.
Yeah, until the last couple,where I started to finally get
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it and found my peace in God andmy life wasn't controlled by
the relationship.
And even this last time, whenthe relationship ended, it was
sad and I'm sure you noticed,along with other people, that it
changes you in ways.
But it got better a whole lotquicker because I knew to put my
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faith in God.
It got better a whole lotquicker because I knew to put my
faith in God that the fear ofnot having that relationship,
the fear of not having that love, the fear of not having that
comfort, isn't what I needed tobe striving for.
I need to be looking for thatlove and that comfort, that
sound mind from God himself.
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So the spirit that I have, thespirit that I've been walking in
now, is a spirit that is bornfrom knowing Jesus rather than
the world.
It still sucks.
Yeah, I can't tell you that that, um, and if you listen to the
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episode yesterday, I told astory about Sarah, who she and
her husband were, wereChristians in church and her
husband died.
I can't tell you that she justhad this peace all of a sudden
and wasn't sad and wasn'tworried about the future until
she surrendered all that.
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When she surrendered thatrelationship and all of that
fear to God, she still was sad.
She still missed her husband.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, she still grieved.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
But she said she had a peace that she couldn't
understand, she couldn't explainit, that there was just a piece
about it.
It's kind of the place I'm atnow there's missing somebody.
You grieve for the life thatyou think you're going to have.
You prepare yourself for afuture that's not going to
happen now, but there is a peacethere.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, and it said she didn't hear a voice or see
anything, but she felt like apeace wash over her Because,
like you don't sometimes, youmight not always hear God speak.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You might not always.
That's God calming your innerman.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You might not always see him, so to speak.
You might not always in yourinner man.
Yeah, you might not always seehim, so to speak.
You'll feel that peace.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Cause we right now are in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We're not of it but we're in it and our flesh is
going to respond the way theworld wants it to Right.
But our inner man, god, isspeaking.
The Holy spirit speaks to thatinner man.
That's why we can't explainthat peace, because it comes
from inside.
There's nothing external aboutit.
The external stuff is myhusband's dead.
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How am I going to raise thesekids by myself?
You know all of that.
That's the world and that'scoming at you from the outside.
But that peace from God is fromthe inside and it's so much
more powerful than the fear fromthe outside If you surrender to
God.
That's the thing.
What happens with people thatdon't look for that peace from
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God is they'll find a way, likeyou were talking about earlier.
They'll find a way to mask thatpain.
You know I mask mine with.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Big Macs I've been good at that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I used to mask it with cigarettes and Skol and
maybe a little bit of alcohol.
I really wasn't a big drinker.
But all that's temporary,because what eventually happens
with that?
You smoke cigarettes longenough, trying to keep yourself
in that piece.
Well then, all of a sudden,you're going to get lung cancer.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, it's even worse .
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, or in my case, those Big Macs add up.
Yes, they do.
Hey, I don't need you to saythat.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, I'm speaking for myself too.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh well, you're not fat, I'm fat.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, we ain't getting on that, but I'm good
looking.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, and I'm humble.
Okay, lauren, let me read somescripture.
It's from a Psalm 34, 17 and 18.
The righteous cry out and theLord hears them.
He delivers them from all theirtroubles.
The Lord is close to thebrokenhearted and saves those
who are crushed in spirit.
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Is there something in your lifethat that speaks to?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, actually.
So about a year or so ago, myfamily experienced kind of like
a extreme falling apart point.
I'm just going to be real.
My dad was in here with us.
He was in the church with us.
Things seemed to have beengoing, you know, as they should.
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He seemed to be into it.
He seemed to have really wantedto serve God at first and
dedicate his life to God.
God healed him of his leukemiamedically documented, and
everything.
Something one day just snapped,it flipped completely and one
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thing led up to another.
There were some things that Idid, something that I did, that
I carried a big weight, like abig weight, rested on my
shoulders.
With that I felt like I had alot to do with him leaving.
Inevitably, he ended up justfalling off all of a sudden.
Everything that we ever saw,everything that he ever did
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apparently he wasn't all in.
It was, all you know, a show.
Yeah, it was a show and none ofus could really like understand
how it happened, or we were allconfused by it.
It was very.
There was just no solid answeras to why it happened.
He fell off and never came back.
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My mom decided to go throughwith a divorce and completely
split in two For a while.
It was really ugly.
Me and my brother, we were theones who were in contact with
him the most.
It was like fighting againstSatan himself almost at the
early stages of this.
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Just constant fighting,constant, just verbal, just it
was terrible.
There was no peace at allduring, you know, the early
parts of this.
There was no sound mind, no,nothing whatsoever.
It was constant, just tormentand turmoil and fighting and
strife.
And then, before we knew it, itwas just me, my mom and my
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brother, and we were what to me?
What felt like we were on ourown for a while, and we were not
.
We were not on our own, but Iwas without my dad and I was
very close to my dad for, youknow, all of my life I was what
they call a daddy's girl.
So emotion, I would close up andI didn't want to let people in,
I didn't want to let peoplehelp me, I didn't want to even
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talk about it in any way.
I kind of just let it eat awayat me on the inside and I let it
destroy my heart.
I let bitterness just take sucha deep root inside of me and I
let anger build and build, andbuild and build, and there was
unforgiveness, not only towardhim but, you know, towards my
mother too.
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There was just a lot ofinternal strife, I guess, for
lack of a better word Idefinitely had no peace.
I definitely had no peace, butit took a long time to fully
even begin to surrender all ofthat to God, to let him heal my
heart and to let him become afather to me, when my earthly
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father was absent.
I know he was not, he's notdead, but he's not here and
there's a high chance that he'snot coming back.
So what I needed during thattime was the love of a father,
and it was a love that only Godcould provide, first and
foremost.
And then he placed us here andwe have Pastor Chip and Pastor
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Kelly of our church at home forthe lost, who took us in.
They let us stay with them andchip has been god, I love him
nothing short of a father to us,to me and my brother, and
there's been so many other menin our lives that have become
more like spiritual fathers tous and even spiritual mothers,
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Pastor Kelly, she's become thatfor me too.
During that time the peace wasabsent and there was absolutely.
I didn't know how to find it.
I really wasn't looking for it.
Honestly, the first part ofthat I was at a point where I
was just going to close up andstay recluse and stay wallowing
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in all the negativity and allthe hurts and all the pain and
all the anger until I finallyhad to let it go.
While I've let most of it go, Ihadn't let it all go because as
time went on, it's still.
It was something that would nagat my heart.
If you've ever heard somebodysay something's nagging at your
heart or whatever it, constantlyI would find myself still
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hurting.
So that led me to know that Ihadn't really let it all go like
I should have.
But you still grieve somebody,even if they're not dead.
You grieve their absence.
When they remove themselvesfrom your life and then try to
turn the tables on, you try tospeak all manner of evil against
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you, and you know your churchand where you come from and all
the people who genuinely loveyou and have been in the
trenches with you.
It hurts bad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And then they get your own family you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It hurts bad, yeah.
And then they get your ownfamily, you know, to turn
against you.
Even in that we inevitablyfound peace, because once you
fully surrender something to God, you give it to him.
It's in his control, now it'sin his hands.
You give the person to himbecause you can't do anything
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with anybody in your own power.
It has to be God, it has to bethe Holy Ghost, it has to be by
his power alone.
You are powerless.
You can't fix anybody thatdon't want to be fixed.
You can't lead them anywherethat they don't want to be led.
You have to give it to him.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
You have to give it to him.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You have to give it to him, you have to give it to
God, because only he can bringthem to their knees, only he can
yank the rug out fromunderneath their feet to where
they have face plant on theground.
And it has to be at that pointin their life, where they have
nowhere else to go, where theyhave nothing left, where they
are the most desperate, thatonly he can do what he can do.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, it takes you getting to that point where
you're at rock bottom.
I've been at rock bottom a fewtimes in my life.
Every time I'm at rock bottom,I think I'm at rock, and then I
find again 10 years laterthere's another level below.
So, I think I hit it and all mybottoms have been higher up.
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Now I do want to say that Ifeel like a lot of your healing
for you and your brother andyour mother happened because of
where God placed you to beginwith.
God knew all this was going tohappen and put you around people
.
Isaiah 26.3 says you will keepin perfect peace with those
whose minds are steadfastbecause they trust in you.
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You're in a church, You're in aplace with a family.
This church I've talked aboutit before and now she's talking
about it it's the most wonderfulthing I've ever experienced.
A true family, A true familythat is there like your real
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family never really was.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You know and it's not saying anything bad about my,
my blood family nobody wastrained in that, nobody had any
experience in the spiritual, thespiritual upbringing that I've
had since I've been here as agrown man right same for me who
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remembers richard nixon beingpresident.
I'm still still, can have myspiritual mother yell at me and
brings me to tears.
You know, yeah, but it's a,it's only a good thing, it's all
done in love.
So I commend you for commendyou.
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What a word.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't commend you because commend you what?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
a word.
I don't commend you because Ican't give you the definition of
that.
I'm proud of you for speakingall that here and opening up,
and I'm sorry that you had todeal with all that, but I've
seen the progress that you andyour brother and your mother
have made throughout all thisand I can't do anything but
point to God as the reason forit.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Right, and this is something that has been
difficult for me, because I'venever been one to open up at all
, I've never been one to bevulnerable.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, you've done it now.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Exactly, I've done it for the whole world to hear.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Leave it to me to get you involved in something to
make you spill your guts infront of a million people.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But I absolutely would do it again, because
people need to hear a testimony,people need to hear a piece of
something that you've beenthrough and how God got you
through it, and because younever know who may be out there
that can connect to that, or whois going through something
similar, who may need to hearsomething, because everybody's
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searching for something and thatsomething is God.
They're searching for him.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So, lauren, thank you for opening your heart and
sharing your story.
It's such a powerful, powerfulconversation that we've had
today.
It's a reminder to all of usthat, even in the middle of pain
, even when everything feelsshattered, god is still writing
a story of peace, his peace thatpasses all understanding.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, and for anyone listening who feels like they're
in the middle of a raging storm, I just want to say don't give
up.
God sees you.
He knows exactly where you are.
His peace isn't about perfectcircumstances.
It's about his perfect presenceand he will meet you there.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Ooh, his peace isn't about perfect circumstances,
it's about his perfect presence.
That's good I came up with.
Peace is not the absence ofproblems, it's the presence of
God, and I think you outdid it,that's good I like that one too.
Yeah, they're both good.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So Lauren, tell me where we can hear more from you.
Well, rick, I'm part of theWisdom for the Day everyday show
.
It's a daily podcast with shortfive minute devotions that
helps start or end your day withGod.
I'm also the host of a newsegment called Weekends with
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Lauren, which iss Spotify, goodPods or really anywhere you
listen to your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Well, that sounds awesome.
I think I will listen to that.
I know that's so stupid thatwas just a shameless plug,
wasn't it?
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I'm Rick and I'm so glad you'rehere and today we have Lauren
with us.
Lauren, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm great, rick, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Are you excited?
I'm very excited, yeah, same.
Here we're jumping intosomething that I think hits home
for a lot of people right now.
We jumping into something thatI think hits home for a lot of
people right now.
It's part two of the latestepisode of Finding Peace in the
End Times.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And we're not talking about just any kind of peace,
but we're talking about God'speace, the kind that holds you
steady when everything aroundyou is shaking.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, especially during this time where nothing
seems certain, everything isgoing to chaos.
Some people might find it hardto find a steady peace.
It's like the whole atmosphereis just heavy right now, isn't
it?
Yes, yes, there's worldly peacethat people are searching for,
that people are finding comfortin all their materialistic
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things and all their money andhouses and relationships, but
none of that is going withanybody when we all check out of
here.
There's a greater peace thatsurpasses all understanding.
Ultimately, that comes fromJesus Christ only.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Exactly.
Jesus even warned us about thisin John 10.10.
He said the thief comes only tosteal and kill and destroy.
Peace is one of the firstthings that the devil goes after
.
If he can get your peace, hecan cloud your judgment, kill
your joy and distract you fromyour purpose.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's right, and his biggest weapon is fear.
Fear is something he will getyou with every single time if
you let him, no matter what itis, no matter what life
circumstance comes your way.
If it's fear of losing a job,fear of losing somebody you love
, he's going to get you with itevery single time and it plays
(02:41):
on your mind heavy if you let it, and that will ultimately steal
your peace and your joy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, the peace that Jesus offers is so different
than what the world offers,right, right.
John 14, 27 says my peace Igive you, not as the world gives
, and that's huge, because theworld's peace depends on
circumstances, when everything'scalm and everything's going
your way.
But God's peace defiescircumstances.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right.
God's peace is when the stormsand the wind and the seas are
raging around you.
God's peace is knowing thathe's there with you, no matter
what's going on.
The world offers you atemporary peace by giving you,
you know, comfort in your, yourfamily, your job, your money,
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even things such as like peopleturn to alcohol, people turn to
drugs, people turn to all ofthat worldly stuff.
The cheeseburgers, yes, yes,all the cheeseburgers.
Food.
Food is a big one that will getmany, many people.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, the difference is that you can be in the middle
of global chaos and still havestillness in your spirit,
because you know who's really incontrol, and that's kind of
where we are right now, in thesetimes, and that's.
The challenge, though, is tokeep your eyes fixed on God.
Isaiah 26.3 says you will keephim in perfect peace whose mind
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is stayed on you.
We got to keep our mind stayedor fixed on God, even when it
feels like everything's fallingapart.
But, that's also our strength.
The devil can't steal what wesurrender fully to God.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right and like in Hebrews 11.10, it says Abraham
was confidently looking forwardto a city with eternal
foundations, a city designed andbuilt by God himself.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, true.
So what we're going to talkabout today is how to do that,
how to hold on to God's peace ina world that's falling apart,
because peace isn't passive.
Peace is powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Let's do it, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So stick with us, we're just getting started.
If you've been struggling tofind your rest, or find rest in
your soul, or if fear has beencreeping in more than you'd like
to admit, you're not alone.
You got two people here whohave experienced it recently.
But there's a way to fight back, and it starts with remembering
who your peace comes from.
So I'm just going to jump rightin, Lauren, with everything
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that's going on in the worldwars, disasters, you know
weather situations we just hadflooding from a couple hours of
rain in the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Moral confusion.
Do we even want to get intomoral confusion?
Men, women, who can define that?
How do you personally definepeace in this season?
How do you?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
personally define peace in this season.
For me personally, when itcomes to the wars and all the
disasters and moral confusionwith everything for one, I just
have to remember that the Bibletells us that this stuff will
happen.
The Bible prophesies that allof these things will happen,
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from the wars to all thedisasters.
It's the birthing pains thatthis world is going through.
But you have to know that word,you have to be in your word and
reading it to know that thesethings will happen.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Give me an example.
So, like I love putting you onthe spot.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All of the wars.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, I mean, give me an example of scripture.
Oh gosh, how about I throw youone Second?
Timothy 1.7.
For God has not given us aspirit of fear, but of power and
of love and of a sound mind.
It really to me that tells usit doesn't matter what's
happening yeah, war is bad, andif bombs were exploding around
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us?
Yeah, I'm gonna be scared yeah.
I'm gonna be scared, but thereneeds to be a peace in that.
I mean, it's all well and goodto say it because bombs aren't
going off around us, but we haveto know that if that bomb lands
right on our heads, that thatnext moment we'll be standing in
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front of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's right.
A lot of things are easier saidthan done, because I would
definitely be scared.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, I was watching the house of David and it was
the final episode.
Boy, you are making a lot ofnoise over there.
Someone doesn't know podcastetiquette.
I was watching the house of.
David, it's okay, you're,you're, you're little, you're
young.
Again, I was watching the houseof David it was one of the
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final episodes and that girlthat David likes, I can't think
of her name.
What's her name?
The princess what's her name?
The princess yeah, you hadn'tseen the last episode no, oh
well, I'm not caught up so he'sabout to go fight Goliath.
And she said are you scared?
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And I'm like, ooh, I got tohear this.
And he said terrified, I'mterrified, he was terrified
Physically in the world.
Our flesh has got to be scaredand fearful.
Yeah, but our inner man needsto know there's something
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different.
That's the only reason thatDavid was able to stand against
Goliath is because his faith inGod.
He knew that God was there toprotect him, no matter what.
Even if he got hurt and died,he knew that God was there to
protect him.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No matter what?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Even if he got hurt and died, he wasn't fearful of
that.
But everybody's going to bescared going up against a giant
that can break him in half likea matchstick.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
right there was a stronger man inside of David
that was able to help him defeatGoliath Right.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But we all have that man in us.
Yeah, we all have that man.
And we all have that man in usyeah, we all have that man.
And that's what that, timothysays for God has not given us a
spirit of fear, but of power andof love and a sound mind.
Those three things power, loveand a sound mind counteract the
fear right, you're going to havesome, you're going to be scared
.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I would definitely be scared.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think pastor was talking the other night about
the covering and having ablanket that's too small and
that happens to me all the time.
I'll be half asleep and I'llhear my name.
I don't know where that soundcomes from.
I don't know.
I want to think it's God, butI'm like.
I don't think God's voice wouldscare me.
And what's the first thing I dobefore I say Jesus, I pull my
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feet inside the covers becauseit can't get you when you're
under the covers, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Or have you ever been like so asleep that you wake up
out from under the coverscompletely and you're freezing?
You wake up freezing cold.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I like that, though, cause you can put those
covers on and you're freezing.
You wake up freezing cold, yeah, I like that, though, because
you can put those covers on andyou're warm again.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
No, that's not a good feeling, though, to wake up
cold.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, I'd rather wake up cold than hot and sweaty.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a nice.
Anyway, man, you are thenoisiest person on that
microphone, so, gosh, i'm'mgonna have to edit all this out
of.
People gonna think I'm mean toyou?
No, keep it in okay, I'll keepit in people need to know that
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you're mean, so how?
Do you think that peace fromgod differs from the kind of
peace that the world promises?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
so the peace from god , it firstly, the world is going
to offer you materialisticthings to give you peace.
It's going to offer you, youmay find temporary peace, which
is the world's peace, is comfort.
That's what the world's peaceis.
You can find that inrelationships.
You can find that in jobs,financial situations, financial
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situations.
But the peace of God differsfrom the world in the fact that
you don't none of that worldlystuff is going to satisfy you
like God can, what he does foryou, what he can give you, all
his promises that he promises tous.
There's nothing like I'm notplaying really bad.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What you're playing.
There's nothing like what.
Well see, what you just saidwas you were talking about
relationships.
Let's back up to that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'm a year or two older than you right?
Yes, so.
I spent a lot of years lookingto find peace in relationships.
And what did I say in thatverse from 2 Timothy?
What did that say?
Peace, peace, lord.
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How did I just forget it?
God has not given us a spiritof fear, but of power and of
love and a sound mind.
Well, I looked for power andlove and a sound mind in
relationships, and every singleone of them crumbled.
Yeah, until the last couple,where I started to finally get
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it and found my peace in God andmy life wasn't controlled by
the relationship.
And even this last time, whenthe relationship ended, it was
sad and I'm sure you noticed,along with other people, that it
changes you in ways.
But it got better a whole lotquicker because I knew to put my
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faith in God.
It got better a whole lotquicker because I knew to put my
faith in God that the fear ofnot having that relationship,
the fear of not having that love, the fear of not having that
comfort, isn't what I needed tobe striving for.
I need to be looking for thatlove and that comfort, that
sound mind from God himself.
(13:06):
So the spirit that I have, thespirit that I've been walking in
now, is a spirit that is bornfrom knowing Jesus rather than
the world.
It still sucks.
Yeah, I can't tell you that that, um, and if you listen to the
(13:29):
episode yesterday, I told astory about Sarah, who she and
her husband were, wereChristians in church and her
husband died.
I can't tell you that she justhad this peace all of a sudden
and wasn't sad and wasn'tworried about the future until
she surrendered all that.
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When she surrendered thatrelationship and all of that
fear to God, she still was sad.
She still missed her husband.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, she still grieved.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
But she said she had a peace that she couldn't
understand, she couldn't explainit, that there was just a piece
about it.
It's kind of the place I'm atnow there's missing somebody.
You grieve for the life thatyou think you're going to have.
You prepare yourself for afuture that's not going to
happen now, but there is a peacethere.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, and it said she didn't hear a voice or see
anything, but she felt like apeace wash over her Because,
like you don't sometimes, youmight not always hear God speak.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You might not always.
That's God calming your innerman.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You might not always see him, so to speak.
You might not always in yourinner man.
Yeah, you might not always seehim, so to speak.
You'll feel that peace.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Cause we right now are in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We're not of it but we're in it and our flesh is
going to respond the way theworld wants it to Right.
But our inner man, god, isspeaking.
The Holy spirit speaks to thatinner man.
That's why we can't explainthat peace, because it comes
from inside.
There's nothing external aboutit.
The external stuff is myhusband's dead.
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How am I going to raise thesekids by myself?
You know all of that.
That's the world and that'scoming at you from the outside.
But that peace from God is fromthe inside and it's so much
more powerful than the fear fromthe outside If you surrender to
God.
That's the thing.
What happens with people thatdon't look for that peace from
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God is they'll find a way, likeyou were talking about earlier.
They'll find a way to mask thatpain.
You know I mask mine with.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Big Macs I've been good at that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I used to mask it with cigarettes and Skol and
maybe a little bit of alcohol.
I really wasn't a big drinker.
But all that's temporary,because what eventually happens
with that?
You smoke cigarettes longenough, trying to keep yourself
in that piece.
Well then, all of a sudden,you're going to get lung cancer.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, it's even worse .
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, or in my case, those Big Macs add up.
Yes, they do.
Hey, I don't need you to saythat.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, I'm speaking for myself too.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh well, you're not fat, I'm fat.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, we ain't getting on that, but I'm good
looking.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, and I'm humble.
Okay, lauren, let me read somescripture.
It's from a Psalm 34, 17 and 18.
The righteous cry out and theLord hears them.
He delivers them from all theirtroubles.
The Lord is close to thebrokenhearted and saves those
who are crushed in spirit.
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Is there something in your lifethat that speaks to?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, actually.
So about a year or so ago, myfamily experienced kind of like
a extreme falling apart point.
I'm just going to be real.
My dad was in here with us.
He was in the church with us.
Things seemed to have beengoing, you know, as they should.
(17:13):
He seemed to be into it.
He seemed to have really wantedto serve God at first and
dedicate his life to God.
God healed him of his leukemiamedically documented, and
everything.
Something one day just snapped,it flipped completely and one
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thing led up to another.
There were some things that Idid, something that I did, that
I carried a big weight, like abig weight, rested on my
shoulders.
With that I felt like I had alot to do with him leaving.
Inevitably, he ended up justfalling off all of a sudden.
Everything that we ever saw,everything that he ever did
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apparently he wasn't all in.
It was, all you know, a show.
Yeah, it was a show and none ofus could really like understand
how it happened, or we were allconfused by it.
It was very.
There was just no solid answeras to why it happened.
He fell off and never came back.
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My mom decided to go throughwith a divorce and completely
split in two For a while.
It was really ugly.
Me and my brother, we were theones who were in contact with
him the most.
It was like fighting againstSatan himself almost at the
early stages of this.
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Just constant fighting,constant, just verbal, just it
was terrible.
There was no peace at allduring, you know, the early
parts of this.
There was no sound mind, no,nothing whatsoever.
It was constant, just tormentand turmoil and fighting and
strife.
And then, before we knew it, itwas just me, my mom and my
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brother, and we were what to me?
What felt like we were on ourown for a while, and we were not
.
We were not on our own, but Iwas without my dad and I was
very close to my dad for, youknow, all of my life I was what
they call a daddy's girl.
So emotion, I would close up andI didn't want to let people in,
I didn't want to let peoplehelp me, I didn't want to even
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talk about it in any way.
I kind of just let it eat awayat me on the inside and I let it
destroy my heart.
I let bitterness just take sucha deep root inside of me and I
let anger build and build, andbuild and build, and there was
unforgiveness, not only towardhim but, you know, towards my
mother too.
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There was just a lot ofinternal strife, I guess, for
lack of a better word Idefinitely had no peace.
I definitely had no peace, butit took a long time to fully
even begin to surrender all ofthat to God, to let him heal my
heart and to let him become afather to me, when my earthly
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father was absent.
I know he was not, he's notdead, but he's not here and
there's a high chance that he'snot coming back.
So what I needed during thattime was the love of a father,
and it was a love that only Godcould provide, first and
foremost.
And then he placed us here andwe have Pastor Chip and Pastor
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Kelly of our church at home forthe lost, who took us in.
They let us stay with them andchip has been god, I love him
nothing short of a father to us,to me and my brother, and
there's been so many other menin our lives that have become
more like spiritual fathers tous and even spiritual mothers,
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Pastor Kelly, she's become thatfor me too.
During that time the peace wasabsent and there was absolutely.
I didn't know how to find it.
I really wasn't looking for it.
Honestly, the first part ofthat I was at a point where I
was just going to close up andstay recluse and stay wallowing
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in all the negativity and allthe hurts and all the pain and
all the anger until I finallyhad to let it go.
While I've let most of it go, Ihadn't let it all go because as
time went on, it's still.
It was something that would nagat my heart.
If you've ever heard somebodysay something's nagging at your
heart or whatever it, constantlyI would find myself still
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hurting.
So that led me to know that Ihadn't really let it all go like
I should have.
But you still grieve somebody,even if they're not dead.
You grieve their absence.
When they remove themselvesfrom your life and then try to
turn the tables on, you try tospeak all manner of evil against
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you, and you know your churchand where you come from and all
the people who genuinely loveyou and have been in the
trenches with you.
It hurts bad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And then they get your own family you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It hurts bad, yeah.
And then they get your ownfamily, you know, to turn
against you.
Even in that we inevitablyfound peace, because once you
fully surrender something to God, you give it to him.
It's in his control, now it'sin his hands.
You give the person to himbecause you can't do anything
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with anybody in your own power.
It has to be God, it has to bethe Holy Ghost, it has to be by
his power alone.
You are powerless.
You can't fix anybody thatdon't want to be fixed.
You can't lead them anywherethat they don't want to be led.
You have to give it to him.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
You have to give it to him.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You have to give it to him, you have to give it to
God, because only he can bringthem to their knees, only he can
yank the rug out fromunderneath their feet to where
they have face plant on theground.
And it has to be at that pointin their life, where they have
nowhere else to go, where theyhave nothing left, where they
are the most desperate, thatonly he can do what he can do.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, it takes you getting to that point where
you're at rock bottom.
I've been at rock bottom a fewtimes in my life.
Every time I'm at rock bottom,I think I'm at rock, and then I
find again 10 years laterthere's another level below.
So, I think I hit it and all mybottoms have been higher up.
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Now I do want to say that Ifeel like a lot of your healing
for you and your brother andyour mother happened because of
where God placed you to beginwith.
God knew all this was going tohappen and put you around people
.
Isaiah 26.3 says you will keepin perfect peace with those
whose minds are steadfastbecause they trust in you.
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You're in a church, You're in aplace with a family.
This church I've talked aboutit before and now she's talking
about it it's the most wonderfulthing I've ever experienced.
A true family, A true familythat is there like your real
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family never really was.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You know and it's not saying anything bad about my,
my blood family nobody wastrained in that, nobody had any
experience in the spiritual, thespiritual upbringing that I've
had since I've been here as agrown man right same for me who
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remembers richard nixon beingpresident.
I'm still still, can have myspiritual mother yell at me and
brings me to tears.
You know, yeah, but it's a,it's only a good thing, it's all
done in love.
So I commend you for commendyou.
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What a word.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't commend you because commend you what?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
a word.
I don't commend you because Ican't give you the definition of
that.
I'm proud of you for speakingall that here and opening up,
and I'm sorry that you had todeal with all that, but I've
seen the progress that you andyour brother and your mother
have made throughout all thisand I can't do anything but
point to God as the reason forit.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Right, and this is something that has been
difficult for me, because I'venever been one to open up at all
, I've never been one to bevulnerable.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, you've done it now.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Exactly, I've done it for the whole world to hear.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Leave it to me to get you involved in something to
make you spill your guts infront of a million people.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But I absolutely would do it again, because
people need to hear a testimony,people need to hear a piece of
something that you've beenthrough and how God got you
through it, and because younever know who may be out there
that can connect to that, or whois going through something
similar, who may need to hearsomething, because everybody's
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searching for something and thatsomething is God.
They're searching for him.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So, lauren, thank you for opening your heart and
sharing your story.
It's such a powerful, powerfulconversation that we've had
today.
It's a reminder to all of usthat, even in the middle of pain
, even when everything feelsshattered, god is still writing
a story of peace, his peace thatpasses all understanding.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, and for anyone listening who feels like they're
in the middle of a raging storm, I just want to say don't give
up.
God sees you.
He knows exactly where you are.
His peace isn't about perfectcircumstances.
It's about his perfect presenceand he will meet you there.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Ooh, his peace isn't about perfect circumstances,
it's about his perfect presence.
That's good I came up with.
Peace is not the absence ofproblems, it's the presence of
God, and I think you outdid it,that's good I like that one too.
Yeah, they're both good.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So Lauren, tell me where we can hear more from you.
Well, rick, I'm part of theWisdom for the Day everyday show
.
It's a daily podcast with shortfive minute devotions that
helps start or end your day withGod.
I'm also the host of a newsegment called Weekends with
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Lauren, which iss Spotify, goodPods or really anywhere you
listen to your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Well, that sounds awesome.
I think I will listen to that.
I know that's so stupid thatwas just a shameless plug,
wasn't it?
That's fine so if today'sepisode spoke to you, share it
with someone who needs to bereminded that peace is possible
and remember, no matter what'sbehind you.
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With God, peace is always aheadof you.
Until next time, stay rooted inthe word and keep renewing your
mindset.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You did good, lauren.
That's all for today, but I'llbe back with more unfiltered
biblical truth and undeniableprophecy.
The time to wake up is now.
If today's episode challengedyou, don't keep it to yourself.
Tell someone.
Please Text them a link.
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Share the truth while there'sstill time.
Visit renewedmindsetscom tostay connected and to listen to
past episodes and check out ourmerch at renewedmindsetsstore.
Jesus is coming soon.
Stay watchful, stay holy, stayrenewed Until next week.
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I'm Rick.
Be an encourager, not adiscourager.
I love you, see ya.
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(30:21):
Are you Ready by Floodgate?
See ya.
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