November 21, 2024 • 32 mins
Welcome to Yakuza Kiwami 2 - In part 3, chaos in the Omi Alliance boils over as they make a play to take over the Tojo Clan despite Chairman Goda's wishes. Majima protects Kamurocho while Kiryu and Sayama try to cut off the head of the snake. Don't forget to watch or play along - gameplay is posted weekly on our YouTube channel where we also have new video episodes! You can also find us on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and Reddit. Please consider supporting Eggy Toast here if you enjoyed the music in this episode.
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In this episode, I think the florist could be blind.
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Still, nobody can walk or run correctly.
And step aside, Dinky.
Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews.
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almost like I'm discovering them again for the first time.
We hope it'll be a similar experience for you.
Chapter 8, Suspect.
We see a police meeting where the video of Date looks rather convincing.
Sudo is sure something's not right.
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And he fights for Date, but he's still ordered to arrest him.
That is a massive TV projector thing.
Why do they need it to be that big?
And up close, it's ridiculously large.
We're back to Serena.
Sayama wants to turn herself in to save Date, but Kawara says that they're not going to change their minds.
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Kiryu heads to the florist to see if he can track down Daigo.
He's also questioning the florist, not only about Daigo, but about the tape of Date.
Then the florist says, if I'd seen it first, I would never have handed over a tape so full of holes as evidence.
It was submitted behind my back, so he has a rat.
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What I don't understand is with all his resources, why can't he, and all his cameras,
why can't he look internally to see who submitted it behind his back?
I feel like the florist either is just stupid, which I don't think is the case,
or he probably has like another agenda.
Yeah, this is the start of him like, dude, are you blind?
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This should be pretty easy to spot, as we'll see shortly.
They start using the monitors to track down Daigo, but the power soon gets cut,
and it turns out a group of men are attacking the transformer room.
They appear to be being led by Hayashi from Kiwami 1 of the Omi Alliance, but he now works for Ryuji.
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Hayashi is so pointless in this game.
I know.
So they get the power back on.
Again, they're tracking down Daigo, but now someone starts hacking them,
and we see who, and he's in the room, right in front of them, but they don't see him.
And now Sayama has to jump into action, and she is able to out hack him.
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But the way the florist is just praising her, like she's in her element,
it's kind of cringy to see this entire interaction, and then Kiryu is like,
oh, I'm falling for her, look how cool she is.
Yeah, it's weird.
And then the rat just gets up and walks, like how do they not notice this guy?
She's a police, yet she has no observation skills.
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And the florist literally observes for his whole life, and he can't even figure it out.
Mm-hmm.
Anyway, they are able to locate Daigo, so they head to the Shangri-La to go get him.
Anything before we move on to scene three?
Nope.
They arrive at the Shangri-La, and it's in disrepair, and I love Kiryu saying the truck was a little much Majima.
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The respect he has for Majima, despite everything that they went through here.
Yeah.
They do free Daigo, and he tells them that his captors took Chairman Goto somewhere else, so
one down, one to go.
I do like Daigo's humor, though, in this environment.
Also, why was Sayama staring at him like that when the scene is fading out?
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Short chapter.
We are now moving on to the Majima saga again for chapter two, Prodigal Son.
So we're back at Tojo HQ, and Majima is being blamed by Ibuchi for Uematsu's murder.
So we kind of think he did it right, to frame Majima at this point.
Definitely based on how quickly he's jumping to it and how defensive he is in making other
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people look like it's their problem.
So Majima says to Ibuchi, you're going to quit yapping if I bring you the head of Uematsu's killer?
And he says, yeah, sure, if you can.
On his way out, some Uematsu guys attack him, and we learn from this encounter that
the men who attacked Majima's family earlier were actually Nishikawa and Uematsu.
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They were actually not from the Uematsu family.
So we get another great scene with Kashiwagi and Majima, and they're chatting.
And even Kashiwagi knows that something's not right, and then he tells
Majima to go to the florist because the florist probably has some intel.
Oh, and his suit changed colors, remember?
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Yes, yes, it did.
It went from purple to pea soup green, right?
Or did it go gray?
I can't remember.
It's not purple.
So yeah, at the florist, Majima is informed that this information will not be cheap,
and in return, the florist wants him to take over operations of Purgatory.
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He's out of his mind.
Why would you know Majima's history, and yet you still want to chain him back into his birdcage
for a piece of information that might not even be that great?
You bring up a good point, though.
Maybe he does know about Majima's ability to manage, like he managed at the Grand.
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So maybe he knows that he's really good at running things.
So on the video that the florist pulls up, we see Kawamura, who is the driver that Majima talked to
in the first Majima chapter.
Kawamura is now in Soutenbury, so Majima has to head there next.
It makes sense as Kawamura because he was...
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He seemed nosy, like his information gathering, so I'm not surprised there,
but I didn't think they would bring him back.
Majima arrives in Soutenbury again.
He says, back here, of all places.
I don't like it because I know what he's been through, and I feel like the florist should have
just told him where instead of making him run around the city.
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Yeah, does he only have cameras in Tokyo, maybe?
I don't know.
I don't know. Anyway, Majima knows that the Grand is the best place for information,
so he heads there.
And I have to say, the difference between him and Kiryu, because they've both been in here
trying to get information, Majima is so much nicer.
He like immediately buys a bottle from the hostess.
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He's so nice to her, and Kiryu was just like ignoring the hostess to eavesdrop on Ryuji.
Majima is a gentleman. He's a real man's man.
Majima still needs to fill in some blanks, so he heads to the Odyssey next in hopes of gathering
more intel, but he arrives to find it no longer exists, but thankfully does bump into Yamagata,
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who was the manager from the Odyssey, and he tells Majima that he'd seen Kawamura at a mahjong parlor
above a massage parlor named Hougushi Kaikan.
Maybe the staff there could tell you something, he says.
I love his efficiency and everything.
Like, he doesn't waste time chit-chatting.
He chit-chats to get the necessary information, doesn't do side stories, and just fights.
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And like, I think there's one part in the previous scene where he even says in his mind,
knock enough heads and you'll soon knock the right one.
Like, he just is thug-like, yet effective.
Yeah, he's efficient.
He's efficient.
Begrudgingly, Majima enters Hougushi Kaikan, where an employee tells him that Kawamura moved
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to Tokyo because someone offered to pay off all his debts.
Very suspicious.
Majima tries to leave, but she's pretty good at guilting him into getting a massage.
He very much so does not want to, but he does cave, and it sounds like someone named Tateyama
will be giving his massage, and I feel like you might want to chime in here.
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Okay, so while watching this, I was like, dude, wouldn't it have been crazy if he
walked in and Makoto was right there?
Next thing you know, who's standing right there?
It's freaking Makoto when she does the massage, but how could they do that to Majima?
You ceased to function.
My hands are fluttering.
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Your hands went floppy.
You just started making noises.
I don't really know what happened to you.
I was in disbelief.
It's just how could they do that to Majima?
And then we don't even know much about it because the scene ends pretty abruptly.
But poor Majima, he recognizes her voice and then does his best to hide from her.
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The part that just breaks my heart is when Makoto says, nice to meet you, sir.
Like, oh.
If I had to cry again for a video game, it would be for this.
We have to realize how much Majima truly loves her to be able to sacrifice everything
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he has and his feelings for her protection.
Exactly.
That is actual love, as tragic as it is.
Anyway, we're going to have a lot more to say than we need to table up for now.
Yeah.
Should we move on to chapter nine, the Omi invasion?
Yep.
All right.
So at Serena, Daigo briefs Kiryu on his captors, saying they seemed military level.
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And during this, Kashiwagi rushes in to check on Daigo,
who then tells them his captors called themselves the Jingwiyon.
But I have to say that in a rush, it was so cute.
Like, Kashiwagi was so concerned for Daigo.
He just comes rushing in.
And then Daigo being shy, slash maybe ashamed that he couldn't protect the chairman.
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Kashiwagi offers him a cigarette from a box.
And at first, I thought it was like a juice box.
And I was like, oh.
Here you go, Ken.
Yeah.
I love Kashiwagi in this game.
He just seems like he's loyal to his core.
And he like actually cares about all of his guys.
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He's nurturing.
He is.
Okay.
So it turns out Kashiwagi has heard of them before.
And he says the Jingwiyon, I know, were wiped out.
And then Sayama, who's also present, says that HQ has no record of their existence.
And that's because they've been erased by the police, Kashiwagi says.
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Kashiwagi then launches into his memories from the incident 20 years ago.
We see a meeting between Dojima, Kazuma, and Big Baby Shimano.
Except he's skinny boy Shimano in this scene.
He's not that big in this scene.
He isn't bulked up yet.
He's on his way.
He's still bald though.
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Okay.
How I feel like he would look ridiculous with hair.
I'm Googling it.
What'd you get?
What'd you get?
I'm Googling it.
This is posted on Reddit by Dark Lord Nugget.
Happy.
You're a scream.
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That freaked me out.
The eyes and the hair freaked me out.
No, no, I don't want to keep looking at it.
Anyway, wow.
Basically, Dojima says they need to kill all of them.
He says, hit too soft and we've dug our own graves.
They have to be wiped out.
And I'm sorry I get pissed off at this.
They try to make Kazuma look like a saint being like,
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I don't want to kill them all.
That's not right.
And then Shimano has a great point.
He's like, you've killed hundreds of people and you don't want to do this.
Agree, Shimano.
But in Kazuma's defense, or I don't know if it really is in his defense,
his style has always been more of a strategist than like heavy hitter type
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with the violence first, think next.
So I'm wondering if there's some kind of connection he has to the
Jingwan mafia that maybe we just don't know.
He probably thinks there's better use for them.
But he does comply.
And it sounds like the raid bumped the Dojima family up to the level of power that we see.
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And these games were then back to present day and Sayama asks where the police were during all of this.
Kashiwagi says they let the Dojima family do their jobs for them.
I wonder if there's so much involvement with the Jingwan mafia.
If that whole storyline may have been also to give us more of like a villain story for the survivors of
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anyone who's from the Jingwan mafia, just to kind of beef it up.
So I think we might see more about that.
I'm curious how it's going to play in because if not, what a waste of time on this.
So after their little meeting, they decide to call it a night.
And the next day Kiryu heads to Turada's funeral while Sayama checks in with Osaka PD.
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So at the funeral, Goryu men show up.
Then this is where one of them gets out of their car and says to Daigo, step aside, dinky.
Which I just can't get enough of.
So of course the fight starts out and there's something that looks a little
not like fighting happening in the background at an hour, 22, 10 seconds.
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There's two men in the back.
One man looks like he's ready to fight or he's in doing something else.
His facial expression is kind of weird.
And the second man's face is shoved into his crotch.
Are they fighting?
It doesn't look like fighting to me.
Yeah, no, it might be some foreplay.
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Anyway, after the brawl, for some people it was a brawl, Ryuji himself shows up and says
that he just wants to pay his respects, whatever.
Kiryu says, you're trying to be a good friend.
Whatever, Kiryu says, you're trying to stop the alliance.
And he says, of course, I feel like we already knew that from when he staged a coup originally.
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He then dumps out a pile of cash.
Lady Dojima has a reaction to this and through dialogue,
we learn that Ryuji and Chairman Godo are not flesh and blood related.
Okay, so the question is, is Ryuji the boy from Jingwon,
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which he's going to be pissed if he realizes he's not Japanese.
It's looking suspicious.
But also, how much time is this guy spending at the barbershop dyeing his hair
into like yellow blonde, like a banana color?
It's not good.
Yeah.
So when Daigo pretty much got shoved to the floor,
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Lady Dojima immediately runs to her son, right?
And I feel like that's like the first time we really see this motherly affection.
I do like this moment.
And then I like when Ryuji sorta insults her a little bit
and Daigo tries to go punch him, but Kiryu stops him.
Also, they look related.
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They do.
The designers did a great job making them actually look like mother and son.
On his way out, Ryuji says in three days, it's rematch time.
And then he also drops a hint that Sengoku is already in Kamurocho.
So we then go back to Kamurocho and we see that the Omi men have arrived,
but Majima is there to take them on by himself.
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I get that you're capable, but it's one thing to be capable.
It's another thing to be stupid and like, it's so unnecessary.
Just wait five minutes for backup.
Kiryu and Sayama catch up and then head out to push Sengoku back.
On the way, they run into a very bloodied up Majima
who indicates that he beat all of Sengoku's men, although he says girls.
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I think the only two people, maybe three,
that can actually win and come out alive in the situation is one.
Majima, two, Kashiwagi because he's cool like that, and three, Tachibana,
which I mean, that man did so much by himself too, but I just think it's incredible
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that they include this scene just to demonstrate how capable they are.
And not only how capable, but how loyal Majima is because he says to Kiryu,
promise is a promise, right? I kept it. He did this just because Kiryu
asked him to give a hand to the Tojo clan.
Majima is the definition of loyalty.
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Like you want him by your side and it hurts me to see him get hurt like this,
but also just he's not getting any positive things happening in his life.
It's just, yeah. And so he better not die like this.
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He's also really smart. He tells Kiryu that he needs to go back to Tojo HQ
because this was all just a distraction to get him out of the way.
He also informs him that Sengoku has a rat in the Tojo clan, Shindo.
So back at HQ, Kiryu finds that the Nishikiyama family has officially flipped and is attacking.
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After fighting his way up, we see that the Nishikiyama family has Daggo and Koshuagi captive.
And Shindo is holding Leiji Dojima on his lap.
So weird. So weird. I don't understand that.
And nonetheless, in front of her son, I'm jumping ahead,
but he pretty much confesses his love for her that he's liked her.
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And dude, if you were together, she has like a grown son.
Like, do you want him to call you dad?
Yeah. Like I can't get a read on how old Shindo is.
But it's not that old.
I'm just really confused.
We have zero backstory on really either of these characters.
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Yes.
It's just really odd.
And unnecessary.
Like, okay, whether or not you have a crush on her has no relevance on what you're trying to do.
Right. And it goes back to why I like Ryuji's
character so much because if this was Ryuji, he wouldn't care about Lady Dojima.
He would just want to take over the clan.
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And I feel like that should be enough for Shindo to just take over the clan, which is his plan.
He says, as we speak, Senkoku's hitmen are wiping out the other officers.
I'm taking over as chairman.
Shouldn't that be enough of a motive for us as the audience?
Why are we dragging Lady Dojima into this?
There's too much Force Romance in this and then the non-consensual kiss was also unnecessary.
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But for a second, though, she thought about liking it.
Oh, yeah.
The eyes closing before she's like, crap, my son's watching.
Right.
She thought about liking it for a split second.
She does slap him and run away.
We balance the scales right now.
It's one to one.
Guy slap girl, girl slap guy.
It won't last long.
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So Kiryu is confronting him and Shindo says, didn't you and Patriarch Nishikiyama go to
war over a woman just last year?
He's got a point.
Fair.
Fair.
A lot of what he says to Kiryu is like, you know, you're not wrong.
I do want to point out, I think I'm very frustrated because back to the whole Yoyoi thing,
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Shindo also points out that, like, why would you love Dojima?
He has like a mistress on every corner and she's like, why wouldn't I?
I'm so loyal to him.
Come on.
I think any ladies listening to our podcast, if your boy has multiple mistresses around
the corner, don't date him.
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Don't be loyal to him.
Shindo's looking a lot better as the scene goes.
Yeah.
He's willing to kill for you.
Right?
Come on.
I also like that he called Dojima a toad.
It's right up there with the dinky.
What do you feel about his character though?
I really liked him and I wish he had more screen time and more of a storyline.
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I feel like it would have been a lot more interesting to explore, like, the,
just the impact that Nishikiyama left on his family.
There could have been a lot more interesting storyline with him, but instead we get things
like the florist's son, which we're going to completely skip over.
They should have really taken some time to give more meat to his character to set him
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up for this moment because it could have helped so much more weight and more understanding
like his villain story than any of the other characters.
Like we barely say Yayoi yet.
She's like, they're trying to make her significant, but it's not working well.
So if they really invested more in Shindo, it would have been great because even without
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all that, I think he has a lot of potential and he kind of does.
I really did enjoy the scenes with him.
Yeah.
I would have liked to see maybe scenes, not even, they don't have to be playable scenes,
but just cut scenes of like Yayoi's perspective of realizing something's not right in the clan.
And then we see like little bits of like Shindo becoming more suspicious and,
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and then maybe we get more backstory about him being in love with her.
And it's still good how it is, but I just wish we got more because there's so much potential.
Okay.
So after Kiryu defeats, I guess, Shindo Yayoi banishes him, but he tries to shoot her,
I think, or maybe Daigo, but Daigo jumps for a gun and kills him instead.
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Do we know he's dead, dead, or is he just video game?
Video version dead?
I think he's pretty dead.
He gets shot a couple of times and there would have been more, but Kiryu stops him and does a little
head shake.
Stupid head shake.
And we were both like, why let him do it?
But here's the thing though, if that was Gidio on the ground, he would have lived.
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So are we sure he's dead, dead?
Hold on to that line.
Okay.
Cause you're going to use it again.
I can guarantee you that.
Anyway, after all of this, Yayoi is over it.
She wants all the Omiya out of the city.
Final chapter of this part, chapter 10, survivors.
We're back to Date who has just learned that the Dojima family wiped out the Jinguyan.
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Harua joins him and we learned that he and Besho were the ones on the case.
And he doesn't really give Date a lot of information and says,
I'm done answering questions.
And as he leaves, Tosu's Date his badge?
Is it Date's badge or Kawara's badge?
I don't know.
But I'm also very annoyed at Kawara just being so emotional and prissy being like,
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I'm done with this.
I'm done answering questions.
He's tossed and walks out with the attitude.
Like, dude, do your job as a police officer.
Do your due diligence, answer questions, help him out.
Why are you being so dinky with your information?
Well, and honestly, because he goes, flip to the last page.
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Like he gives him that hint and it says, I'm not answering questions.
You didn't need to give him that hint.
Did you really think that Date's not going to go to read every page of the binder?
I think he probably would.
I just don't understand this interaction.
I don't know what we're supposed to get out of it.
So Date then fills in Kiryu and Sayama who is very upset that her chief lied to her.
She not only was she just overreacting in the scene of just she goes in so hard and aggressive.
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Calm down so you can understand the facts before you just end up just trying to rip
his head off and make him be accountable for all that.
Yeah.
She's really upset that basically the police were working with the Yakuza.
And then, okay, so she points a gun at Kiryu and this made us think of a great idea for a game or a movie.
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Basically the same setup where she would find out the department was working with the Yakuza
and then she actually kills Kiryu and all of a sudden we've changed protagonist.
Now she's a protagonist and the rest of the story is her just going crazy, taking down the Yakuza.
Best plot twist ever.
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I mean I like Kiryu but I kind of wish that.
No because I would love to see that and especially it's the Yakuza Huntress.
It would be so cool just the idea about like you're following a protagonist
and then halfway through the movie all of a sudden they're dead and you have a new protagonist.
If somebody knows of a movie or a show where they do that let us know because I need to see it.
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Okay well after what actually happens in this game they both need to address some things in Osaka
so they head there but on the way Kiryu bumps into the floor's son and I don't care.
Get rid of him. Get rid of the scene. I don't care. It adds nothing so we skipped it entirely.
So after that Kiryu and Sayama meet back up and she kind of forces him to go with her to Osaka PD
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instead of looking for Gota. At the police department she confronts Besho about the Dojima
family and Jingua Mafia. Honestly I think Besho does a great job with her. His first response is
I had no idea that was a connection so I'm not gonna just spill classified intel.
So basically there was there's just no other way at the time and he says that the Jingua
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Mafia was a 36 man outfit and they only found 33 bodies and he knows about one of the three
survivors and he tells them where to find him. His name is Murai and he actually helped him
disappear to Osaka after he broke the death before dishonor code. What I don't understand is why
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Besho telling them how to find Murai isn't that just going to undo all his effort back then to
spare him? Right unless he just thinks maybe he's involved with what's going on and it's too big of
a risk to not investigate him. Sayama gets extremely pissed when Besho says your protective custody
job ends today. She storms out Kiryu's still there and then Besho says to Kiryu look out for her
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would ya? Weird. Unnecessary she can take care of herself. Kiryu asks him about the
Kawara shootings but he says he's already said too much so we don't get anything more out of him.
Alright anything else on that scene or should we finish this out? Let's finish it. Okay so
Kiryu tracks down Sayama who's gotten into an altercation with some Yakuza. He steps in and
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they run from the cops together after they show up. They seem to realize they have some chemistry.
Hold on before we get that part we have to change the score to two to one in two guys slapping
Fima. Another Fima slap. Yep at least she left a handprint on his face. It was a good slap.
They're in the alleyway hiding from the cops and she's like hey are you free tonight?
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And then there's a montage. So over the top. It is and it I don't know to me like you just can't
you can't beat Majima Makoto and the fact that they're trying to do this in Soutenbury is like
a slap in the face to that storyline. We were like get out of Soutenbury because that's
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the photo and Majima's and the takoyaki. Back off there's so many other good foods. Why did you have
to use takoyaki? That's their thing. Quit it. Anyway then we get to the romantic rooftop moment.
Kiryu's drunk. Dude is drunk. She's gonna go get more beer but then they start talking instead. I
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don't really have much to say on this moment. I don't know if you do. You do have a moment that
you asked me to write my notes to remind you and it's that crotch shot. There's a little too much
implied butt crack you know for Kiryu. Yeah. What's your next note? That was it. All right.
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Kiryu says she should just go get some sleep and then she walks away again. Does not look like a
normal walk. Is she supposed to look drunk or is that just how she walks? She's supposed to look
flirty. That's a flirty walk. I don't know what it was. So after this Kiryu's like, I'm gonna
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go get some sleep. I don't know what it was. So after this Kiryu decides to explore the city where
he runs into a tattoo artist trying to toss away a dragon design. Kiryu stops him and then goes
with him to his parlor. I have in my notes this part is a bit long-winded but we do learn that
this design is what Ryuji has. Okay cool story bro. I think this is just supposed to give more
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on the the one true dragon fire. To be honest the one true dragon really should have been Nishiki.
Elaborate. My understanding is Kois are supposed to turn into dragons through enough evolution and
level up. So the main thing was that there's plenty of barriers and obstacles that prevented Nishiki
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from having those opportunities to level up, demonstrate his ability to be a dragon, and
because he was never given the opportunities he never became a dragon and that's why he stuck with
the Koi tattoo. In my opinion I think that everything Nishiki has done and the fact that
everyone was still loyal to him in the end shows that he deserved to be the dragon. Why did Kiryu
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why was he given that dragon tattoo at such a young age too if it's that important of a design?
I don't know but yeah Nishiki just does not get credit in the games. I mean I think fans give him
credit but in-game characters don't give him enough credit. Well any more notes on part three? No.
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In this episode, I think the florist could be blind.
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Chapter 8, Suspect.
We see a police meeting where the video of Date looks rather convincing.
Sudo is sure something's not right.
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And he fights for Date, but he's still ordered to arrest him.
That is a massive TV projector thing.
Why do they need it to be that big?
And up close, it's ridiculously large.
We're back to Serena.
Sayama wants to turn herself in to save Date, but Kawara says that they're not going to change their minds.
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Kiryu heads to the florist to see if he can track down Daigo.
He's also questioning the florist, not only about Daigo, but about the tape of Date.
Then the florist says, if I'd seen it first, I would never have handed over a tape so full of holes as evidence.
It was submitted behind my back, so he has a rat.
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What I don't understand is with all his resources, why can't he, and all his cameras,
why can't he look internally to see who submitted it behind his back?
I feel like the florist either is just stupid, which I don't think is the case,
or he probably has like another agenda.
Yeah, this is the start of him like, dude, are you blind?
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This should be pretty easy to spot, as we'll see shortly.
They start using the monitors to track down Daigo, but the power soon gets cut,
and it turns out a group of men are attacking the transformer room.
They appear to be being led by Hayashi from Kiwami 1 of the Omi Alliance, but he now works for Ryuji.
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Hayashi is so pointless in this game.
I know.
So they get the power back on.
Again, they're tracking down Daigo, but now someone starts hacking them,
and we see who, and he's in the room, right in front of them, but they don't see him.
And now Sayama has to jump into action, and she is able to out hack him.
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But the way the florist is just praising her, like she's in her element,
it's kind of cringy to see this entire interaction, and then Kiryu is like,
oh, I'm falling for her, look how cool she is.
Yeah, it's weird.
And then the rat just gets up and walks, like how do they not notice this guy?
She's a police, yet she has no observation skills.
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And the florist literally observes for his whole life, and he can't even figure it out.
Mm-hmm.
Anyway, they are able to locate Daigo, so they head to the Shangri-La to go get him.
Anything before we move on to scene three?
Nope.
They arrive at the Shangri-La, and it's in disrepair, and I love Kiryu saying the truck was a little much Majima.
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The respect he has for Majima, despite everything that they went through here.
Yeah.
They do free Daigo, and he tells them that his captors took Chairman Goto somewhere else, so
one down, one to go.
I do like Daigo's humor, though, in this environment.
Also, why was Sayama staring at him like that when the scene is fading out?
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Short chapter.
We are now moving on to the Majima saga again for chapter two, Prodigal Son.
So we're back at Tojo HQ, and Majima is being blamed by Ibuchi for Uematsu's murder.
So we kind of think he did it right, to frame Majima at this point.
Definitely based on how quickly he's jumping to it and how defensive he is in making other
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people look like it's their problem.
So Majima says to Ibuchi, you're going to quit yapping if I bring you the head of Uematsu's killer?
And he says, yeah, sure, if you can.
On his way out, some Uematsu guys attack him, and we learn from this encounter that
the men who attacked Majima's family earlier were actually Nishikawa and Uematsu.
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They were actually not from the Uematsu family.
So we get another great scene with Kashiwagi and Majima, and they're chatting.
And even Kashiwagi knows that something's not right, and then he tells
Majima to go to the florist because the florist probably has some intel.
Oh, and his suit changed colors, remember?
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Yes, yes, it did.
It went from purple to pea soup green, right?
Or did it go gray?
I can't remember.
It's not purple.
So yeah, at the florist, Majima is informed that this information will not be cheap,
and in return, the florist wants him to take over operations of Purgatory.
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He's out of his mind.
Why would you know Majima's history, and yet you still want to chain him back into his birdcage
for a piece of information that might not even be that great?
You bring up a good point, though.
Maybe he does know about Majima's ability to manage, like he managed at the Grand.
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So maybe he knows that he's really good at running things.
So on the video that the florist pulls up, we see Kawamura, who is the driver that Majima talked to
in the first Majima chapter.
Kawamura is now in Soutenbury, so Majima has to head there next.
It makes sense as Kawamura because he was...
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He seemed nosy, like his information gathering, so I'm not surprised there,
but I didn't think they would bring him back.
Majima arrives in Soutenbury again.
He says, back here, of all places.
I don't like it because I know what he's been through, and I feel like the florist should have
just told him where instead of making him run around the city.
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Yeah, does he only have cameras in Tokyo, maybe?
I don't know.
I don't know. Anyway, Majima knows that the Grand is the best place for information,
so he heads there.
And I have to say, the difference between him and Kiryu, because they've both been in here
trying to get information, Majima is so much nicer.
He like immediately buys a bottle from the hostess.
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He's so nice to her, and Kiryu was just like ignoring the hostess to eavesdrop on Ryuji.
Majima is a gentleman. He's a real man's man.
Majima still needs to fill in some blanks, so he heads to the Odyssey next in hopes of gathering
more intel, but he arrives to find it no longer exists, but thankfully does bump into Yamagata,
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who was the manager from the Odyssey, and he tells Majima that he'd seen Kawamura at a mahjong parlor
above a massage parlor named Hougushi Kaikan.
Maybe the staff there could tell you something, he says.
I love his efficiency and everything.
Like, he doesn't waste time chit-chatting.
He chit-chats to get the necessary information, doesn't do side stories, and just fights.
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And like, I think there's one part in the previous scene where he even says in his mind,
knock enough heads and you'll soon knock the right one.
Like, he just is thug-like, yet effective.
Yeah, he's efficient.
He's efficient.
Begrudgingly, Majima enters Hougushi Kaikan, where an employee tells him that Kawamura moved
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to Tokyo because someone offered to pay off all his debts.
Very suspicious.
Majima tries to leave, but she's pretty good at guilting him into getting a massage.
He very much so does not want to, but he does cave, and it sounds like someone named Tateyama
will be giving his massage, and I feel like you might want to chime in here.
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Okay, so while watching this, I was like, dude, wouldn't it have been crazy if he
walked in and Makoto was right there?
Next thing you know, who's standing right there?
It's freaking Makoto when she does the massage, but how could they do that to Majima?
You ceased to function.
My hands are fluttering.
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Your hands went floppy.
You just started making noises.
I don't really know what happened to you.
I was in disbelief.
It's just how could they do that to Majima?
And then we don't even know much about it because the scene ends pretty abruptly.
But poor Majima, he recognizes her voice and then does his best to hide from her.
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The part that just breaks my heart is when Makoto says, nice to meet you, sir.
Like, oh.
If I had to cry again for a video game, it would be for this.
We have to realize how much Majima truly loves her to be able to sacrifice everything
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he has and his feelings for her protection.
Exactly.
That is actual love, as tragic as it is.
Anyway, we're going to have a lot more to say than we need to table up for now.
Yeah.
Should we move on to chapter nine, the Omi invasion?
Yep.
All right.
So at Serena, Daigo briefs Kiryu on his captors, saying they seemed military level.
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And during this, Kashiwagi rushes in to check on Daigo,
who then tells them his captors called themselves the Jingwiyon.
But I have to say that in a rush, it was so cute.
Like, Kashiwagi was so concerned for Daigo.
He just comes rushing in.
And then Daigo being shy, slash maybe ashamed that he couldn't protect the chairman.
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Kashiwagi offers him a cigarette from a box.
And at first, I thought it was like a juice box.
And I was like, oh.
Here you go, Ken.
Yeah.
I love Kashiwagi in this game.
He just seems like he's loyal to his core.
And he like actually cares about all of his guys.
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He's nurturing.
He is.
Okay.
So it turns out Kashiwagi has heard of them before.
And he says the Jingwiyon, I know, were wiped out.
And then Sayama, who's also present, says that HQ has no record of their existence.
And that's because they've been erased by the police, Kashiwagi says.
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Kashiwagi then launches into his memories from the incident 20 years ago.
We see a meeting between Dojima, Kazuma, and Big Baby Shimano.
Except he's skinny boy Shimano in this scene.
He's not that big in this scene.
He isn't bulked up yet.
He's on his way.
He's still bald though.
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Okay.
How I feel like he would look ridiculous with hair.
I'm Googling it.
What'd you get?
What'd you get?
I'm Googling it.
This is posted on Reddit by Dark Lord Nugget.
Happy.
You're a scream.
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That freaked me out.
The eyes and the hair freaked me out.
No, no, I don't want to keep looking at it.
Anyway, wow.
Basically, Dojima says they need to kill all of them.
He says, hit too soft and we've dug our own graves.
They have to be wiped out.
And I'm sorry I get pissed off at this.
They try to make Kazuma look like a saint being like,
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I don't want to kill them all.
That's not right.
And then Shimano has a great point.
He's like, you've killed hundreds of people and you don't want to do this.
Agree, Shimano.
But in Kazuma's defense, or I don't know if it really is in his defense,
his style has always been more of a strategist than like heavy hitter type
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with the violence first, think next.
So I'm wondering if there's some kind of connection he has to the
Jingwan mafia that maybe we just don't know.
He probably thinks there's better use for them.
But he does comply.
And it sounds like the raid bumped the Dojima family up to the level of power that we see.
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And these games were then back to present day and Sayama asks where the police were during all of this.
Kashiwagi says they let the Dojima family do their jobs for them.
I wonder if there's so much involvement with the Jingwan mafia.
If that whole storyline may have been also to give us more of like a villain story for the survivors of
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anyone who's from the Jingwan mafia, just to kind of beef it up.
So I think we might see more about that.
I'm curious how it's going to play in because if not, what a waste of time on this.
So after their little meeting, they decide to call it a night.
And the next day Kiryu heads to Turada's funeral while Sayama checks in with Osaka PD.
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So at the funeral, Goryu men show up.
Then this is where one of them gets out of their car and says to Daigo, step aside, dinky.
Which I just can't get enough of.
So of course the fight starts out and there's something that looks a little
not like fighting happening in the background at an hour, 22, 10 seconds.
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There's two men in the back.
One man looks like he's ready to fight or he's in doing something else.
His facial expression is kind of weird.
And the second man's face is shoved into his crotch.
Are they fighting?
It doesn't look like fighting to me.
Yeah, no, it might be some foreplay.
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Anyway, after the brawl, for some people it was a brawl, Ryuji himself shows up and says
that he just wants to pay his respects, whatever.
Kiryu says, you're trying to be a good friend.
Whatever, Kiryu says, you're trying to stop the alliance.
And he says, of course, I feel like we already knew that from when he staged a coup originally.
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He then dumps out a pile of cash.
Lady Dojima has a reaction to this and through dialogue,
we learn that Ryuji and Chairman Godo are not flesh and blood related.
Okay, so the question is, is Ryuji the boy from Jingwon,
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which he's going to be pissed if he realizes he's not Japanese.
It's looking suspicious.
But also, how much time is this guy spending at the barbershop dyeing his hair
into like yellow blonde, like a banana color?
It's not good.
Yeah.
So when Daigo pretty much got shoved to the floor,
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Lady Dojima immediately runs to her son, right?
And I feel like that's like the first time we really see this motherly affection.
I do like this moment.
And then I like when Ryuji sorta insults her a little bit
and Daigo tries to go punch him, but Kiryu stops him.
Also, they look related.
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They do.
The designers did a great job making them actually look like mother and son.
On his way out, Ryuji says in three days, it's rematch time.
And then he also drops a hint that Sengoku is already in Kamurocho.
So we then go back to Kamurocho and we see that the Omi men have arrived,
but Majima is there to take them on by himself.
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I get that you're capable, but it's one thing to be capable.
It's another thing to be stupid and like, it's so unnecessary.
Just wait five minutes for backup.
Kiryu and Sayama catch up and then head out to push Sengoku back.
On the way, they run into a very bloodied up Majima
who indicates that he beat all of Sengoku's men, although he says girls.
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I think the only two people, maybe three,
that can actually win and come out alive in the situation is one.
Majima, two, Kashiwagi because he's cool like that, and three, Tachibana,
which I mean, that man did so much by himself too, but I just think it's incredible
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that they include this scene just to demonstrate how capable they are.
And not only how capable, but how loyal Majima is because he says to Kiryu,
promise is a promise, right? I kept it. He did this just because Kiryu
asked him to give a hand to the Tojo clan.
Majima is the definition of loyalty.
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Like you want him by your side and it hurts me to see him get hurt like this,
but also just he's not getting any positive things happening in his life.
It's just, yeah. And so he better not die like this.
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He's also really smart. He tells Kiryu that he needs to go back to Tojo HQ
because this was all just a distraction to get him out of the way.
He also informs him that Sengoku has a rat in the Tojo clan, Shindo.
So back at HQ, Kiryu finds that the Nishikiyama family has officially flipped and is attacking.
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After fighting his way up, we see that the Nishikiyama family has Daggo and Koshuagi captive.
And Shindo is holding Leiji Dojima on his lap.
So weird. So weird. I don't understand that.
And nonetheless, in front of her son, I'm jumping ahead,
but he pretty much confesses his love for her that he's liked her.
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And dude, if you were together, she has like a grown son.
Like, do you want him to call you dad?
Yeah. Like I can't get a read on how old Shindo is.
But it's not that old.
I'm just really confused.
We have zero backstory on really either of these characters.
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Yes.
It's just really odd.
And unnecessary.
Like, okay, whether or not you have a crush on her has no relevance on what you're trying to do.
Right. And it goes back to why I like Ryuji's
character so much because if this was Ryuji, he wouldn't care about Lady Dojima.
He would just want to take over the clan.
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And I feel like that should be enough for Shindo to just take over the clan, which is his plan.
He says, as we speak, Senkoku's hitmen are wiping out the other officers.
I'm taking over as chairman.
Shouldn't that be enough of a motive for us as the audience?
Why are we dragging Lady Dojima into this?
There's too much Force Romance in this and then the non-consensual kiss was also unnecessary.
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But for a second, though, she thought about liking it.
Oh, yeah.
The eyes closing before she's like, crap, my son's watching.
Right.
She thought about liking it for a split second.
She does slap him and run away.
We balance the scales right now.
It's one to one.
Guy slap girl, girl slap guy.
It won't last long.
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So Kiryu is confronting him and Shindo says, didn't you and Patriarch Nishikiyama go to
war over a woman just last year?
He's got a point.
Fair.
Fair.
A lot of what he says to Kiryu is like, you know, you're not wrong.
I do want to point out, I think I'm very frustrated because back to the whole Yoyoi thing,
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Shindo also points out that, like, why would you love Dojima?
He has like a mistress on every corner and she's like, why wouldn't I?
I'm so loyal to him.
Come on.
I think any ladies listening to our podcast, if your boy has multiple mistresses around
the corner, don't date him.
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Don't be loyal to him.
Shindo's looking a lot better as the scene goes.
Yeah.
He's willing to kill for you.
Right?
Come on.
I also like that he called Dojima a toad.
It's right up there with the dinky.
What do you feel about his character though?
I really liked him and I wish he had more screen time and more of a storyline.
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I feel like it would have been a lot more interesting to explore, like, the,
just the impact that Nishikiyama left on his family.
There could have been a lot more interesting storyline with him, but instead we get things
like the florist's son, which we're going to completely skip over.
They should have really taken some time to give more meat to his character to set him
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up for this moment because it could have helped so much more weight and more understanding
like his villain story than any of the other characters.
Like we barely say Yayoi yet.
She's like, they're trying to make her significant, but it's not working well.
So if they really invested more in Shindo, it would have been great because even without
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all that, I think he has a lot of potential and he kind of does.
I really did enjoy the scenes with him.
Yeah.
I would have liked to see maybe scenes, not even, they don't have to be playable scenes,
but just cut scenes of like Yayoi's perspective of realizing something's not right in the clan.
And then we see like little bits of like Shindo becoming more suspicious and,
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and then maybe we get more backstory about him being in love with her.
And it's still good how it is, but I just wish we got more because there's so much potential.
Okay.
So after Kiryu defeats, I guess, Shindo Yayoi banishes him, but he tries to shoot her,
I think, or maybe Daigo, but Daigo jumps for a gun and kills him instead.
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Do we know he's dead, dead, or is he just video game?
Video version dead?
I think he's pretty dead.
He gets shot a couple of times and there would have been more, but Kiryu stops him and does a little
head shake.
Stupid head shake.
And we were both like, why let him do it?
But here's the thing though, if that was Gidio on the ground, he would have lived.
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So are we sure he's dead, dead?
Hold on to that line.
Okay.
Cause you're going to use it again.
I can guarantee you that.
Anyway, after all of this, Yayoi is over it.
She wants all the Omiya out of the city.
Final chapter of this part, chapter 10, survivors.
We're back to Date who has just learned that the Dojima family wiped out the Jinguyan.
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Harua joins him and we learned that he and Besho were the ones on the case.
And he doesn't really give Date a lot of information and says,
I'm done answering questions.
And as he leaves, Tosu's Date his badge?
Is it Date's badge or Kawara's badge?
I don't know.
But I'm also very annoyed at Kawara just being so emotional and prissy being like,
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I'm done with this.
I'm done answering questions.
He's tossed and walks out with the attitude.
Like, dude, do your job as a police officer.
Do your due diligence, answer questions, help him out.
Why are you being so dinky with your information?
Well, and honestly, because he goes, flip to the last page.
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Like he gives him that hint and it says, I'm not answering questions.
You didn't need to give him that hint.
Did you really think that Date's not going to go to read every page of the binder?
I think he probably would.
I just don't understand this interaction.
I don't know what we're supposed to get out of it.
So Date then fills in Kiryu and Sayama who is very upset that her chief lied to her.
She not only was she just overreacting in the scene of just she goes in so hard and aggressive.
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Calm down so you can understand the facts before you just end up just trying to rip
his head off and make him be accountable for all that.
Yeah.
She's really upset that basically the police were working with the Yakuza.
And then, okay, so she points a gun at Kiryu and this made us think of a great idea for a game or a movie.
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Basically the same setup where she would find out the department was working with the Yakuza
and then she actually kills Kiryu and all of a sudden we've changed protagonist.
Now she's a protagonist and the rest of the story is her just going crazy, taking down the Yakuza.
Best plot twist ever.
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I mean I like Kiryu but I kind of wish that.
No because I would love to see that and especially it's the Yakuza Huntress.
It would be so cool just the idea about like you're following a protagonist
and then halfway through the movie all of a sudden they're dead and you have a new protagonist.
If somebody knows of a movie or a show where they do that let us know because I need to see it.
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Okay well after what actually happens in this game they both need to address some things in Osaka
so they head there but on the way Kiryu bumps into the floor's son and I don't care.
Get rid of him. Get rid of the scene. I don't care. It adds nothing so we skipped it entirely.
So after that Kiryu and Sayama meet back up and she kind of forces him to go with her to Osaka PD
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instead of looking for Gota. At the police department she confronts Besho about the Dojima
family and Jingua Mafia. Honestly I think Besho does a great job with her. His first response is
I had no idea that was a connection so I'm not gonna just spill classified intel.
So basically there was there's just no other way at the time and he says that the Jingua
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Mafia was a 36 man outfit and they only found 33 bodies and he knows about one of the three
survivors and he tells them where to find him. His name is Murai and he actually helped him
disappear to Osaka after he broke the death before dishonor code. What I don't understand is why
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Besho telling them how to find Murai isn't that just going to undo all his effort back then to
spare him? Right unless he just thinks maybe he's involved with what's going on and it's too big of
a risk to not investigate him. Sayama gets extremely pissed when Besho says your protective custody
job ends today. She storms out Kiryu's still there and then Besho says to Kiryu look out for her
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would ya? Weird. Unnecessary she can take care of herself. Kiryu asks him about the
Kawara shootings but he says he's already said too much so we don't get anything more out of him.
Alright anything else on that scene or should we finish this out? Let's finish it. Okay so
Kiryu tracks down Sayama who's gotten into an altercation with some Yakuza. He steps in and
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they run from the cops together after they show up. They seem to realize they have some chemistry.
Hold on before we get that part we have to change the score to two to one in two guys slapping
Fima. Another Fima slap. Yep at least she left a handprint on his face. It was a good slap.
They're in the alleyway hiding from the cops and she's like hey are you free tonight?
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And then there's a montage. So over the top. It is and it I don't know to me like you just can't
you can't beat Majima Makoto and the fact that they're trying to do this in Soutenbury is like
a slap in the face to that storyline. We were like get out of Soutenbury because that's
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the photo and Majima's and the takoyaki. Back off there's so many other good foods. Why did you have
to use takoyaki? That's their thing. Quit it. Anyway then we get to the romantic rooftop moment.
Kiryu's drunk. Dude is drunk. She's gonna go get more beer but then they start talking instead. I
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don't really have much to say on this moment. I don't know if you do. You do have a moment that
you asked me to write my notes to remind you and it's that crotch shot. There's a little too much
implied butt crack you know for Kiryu. Yeah. What's your next note? That was it. All right.
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Kiryu says she should just go get some sleep and then she walks away again. Does not look like a
normal walk. Is she supposed to look drunk or is that just how she walks? She's supposed to look
flirty. That's a flirty walk. I don't know what it was. So after this Kiryu's like, I'm gonna
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go get some sleep. I don't know what it was. So after this Kiryu decides to explore the city where
he runs into a tattoo artist trying to toss away a dragon design. Kiryu stops him and then goes
with him to his parlor. I have in my notes this part is a bit long-winded but we do learn that
this design is what Ryuji has. Okay cool story bro. I think this is just supposed to give more
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on the the one true dragon fire. To be honest the one true dragon really should have been Nishiki.
Elaborate. My understanding is Kois are supposed to turn into dragons through enough evolution and
level up. So the main thing was that there's plenty of barriers and obstacles that prevented Nishiki
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from having those opportunities to level up, demonstrate his ability to be a dragon, and
because he was never given the opportunities he never became a dragon and that's why he stuck with
the Koi tattoo. In my opinion I think that everything Nishiki has done and the fact that
everyone was still loyal to him in the end shows that he deserved to be the dragon. Why did Kiryu
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why was he given that dragon tattoo at such a young age too if it's that important of a design?
I don't know but yeah Nishiki just does not get credit in the games. I mean I think fans give him
credit but in-game characters don't give him enough credit. Well any more notes on part three? No.
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Well. Perfect. Game plays out tomorrow and we'll be talking about part four next week.
Thank you for listening and don't forget to send in any questions comments or game suggestions.
You can find all our contact info on our website replayreviewspod.com or contact us directly through
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our site. Do we completely miss something? Are we way off the mark or you just want us to take a
deeper look at anything from the game? We'll tackle any topics you all want to hear in our season wrap
up episode. We also have a reddit where we discuss anything we're curious about. Go take a look and
let us know what you're thinking. Our theme music is Condemned by Eggy Toast. They'll play you out
and we'll be back next week.
(32:33):
Thank you.
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