December 12, 2024 • 23 mins
Welcome back to Yakuza Kiwami 2 - in the summary episode, we investigate our burning questions, reveal the stats we tracked, and hand out KFC (Kathy's Favorite Character) Awards. Don't forget to watch or play along - gameplay is posted weekly on our YouTube channel where we also have new video episodes! You can also find us on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and Reddit. Please consider supporting Eggy Toast here if you enjoyed the music in this episode.
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Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews.
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My name is Leah.
And my name is Cathy.
We are two friends who are here to replay, review, and analyze your favorite video games.
And since Cathy has never seen the games before, it helps me view them through her fresh eyes,
almost like I'm discovering them again for the first time.
We hope it'll be a similar experience for you.
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I don't know how to start.
I think this is going to be a short episode.
Last episode was obviously quite a bit longer than usual.
And I think we got a lot out that we needed to say in that episode.
Emotions were high.
Yeah.
I guess let's just start and we'll finish out our first wave of Yakuza.
Yes.
A great way to end the three-part Yakuza that we started with season one, two, and three.
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But not a great way to end the game.
Yeah.
Let's get into it.
Season one, two, and three.
And this is a question we've been asking throughout.
What is the point of Kiryu in this game?
If he didn't exist, would there still be a plot?
Why is he here?
And I'll get into it.
He has no purpose and he doesn't add anything to the plot.
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We didn't need him, honestly.
I think it reiterates the fact that Sayama could have and should have been the protagonist
and just shot him and just take over.
He does nothing.
Next to nothing.
Okay, well, first of all, they make him look like an idiot and a sh-t.
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Because at the start of the game, he says he wants to be a civilian, he wants to be
a good father to Haruka.
And boy, does he change his mind on that at the drop of a hat.
So he goes against everything that he says he wants at the start of the game.
So that's a little bit jarring.
Even though he says he wants those things, he still wants to protect the Tojo for some
reason, and goes way out of his way to do it.
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It doesn't compute.
I feel like, because the main point of this game is to have someone for Ryuji to go up
against because he needs to fight to be the dragon.
And that could have been anyone in the Tojo clan.
It could have been Kashiwagi, it could have been Majima if he went back in.
It didn't need to be Kiryu.
And also, why does he even care about fighting Ryuji?
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To the death, nonetheless.
This is someone who is supposed to be averse to killing, but he's willing to fight this
man to the death just to be the one true dragon when he's not even in the Yakuza and he wants
to be a civilian.
And he's apparently in love with Sayama, but he wants to kill her brother.
Everything about it is just confusing.
Okay, I did include an argument in favor of Kiryu being in this game.
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It's short.
So he brings Daigo back, which provides a new leader for the clan, and he convinces
Majima to help out, which pushes the Omi back and pinpoints the bombs.
However, those are really kind of like the only things he does.
He could have stayed out of it and just advised them to bring in Daigo and Majima.
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And even after this, which essentially is the first two chapters of the game, his character
is kind of useless, which I think is why he is so flawed in the game.
They just tried to force him into a story that didn't truly need him.
Anything else on topic one or should we move on to burning questions?
Let's do burning questions.
All right, so question one, if Ryuji didn't die, what would his character be like in the
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rest of the series?
So I start out by saying here's what I would have liked to see.
I would have liked to see him take over the Omi Alliance, leading to a great setup for
another game where he could be the main villain, who we still find it hard to dislike him.
And it follows him trying to overthrow the Tojo clan and Kamurocho.
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What I realistically think the writers would do with him if he were to live is I think
it would be pretty boring.
He would give it all up.
He would no longer care about being the one true dragon, because essentially he was kind
of used by the Jinguyan, right?
Then his father lied to him.
I think he'd be a little butthurt about being in the Yakuza.
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And we saw him pretty excited to know that Saemo was his sister.
So I think that he would want to get to know her and the two of them would just leave,
go start new lives somewhere.
And we never hear anything about either one of them ever again.
I think mine's kind of similar at this.
And this is all based on the assumption that Hideo continues to stay out of mafia business
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is Ryuji would one, realize that his sister, that's his sister.
And then maybe he would continue to dismantle the Jinguyan because that is really what harmed
him and also the chairman.
So then he'll I feel like he wouldn't run Omi Alliance.
He would just destroy that.
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Or maybe he just sits back and lets the Jinguyan destroy the Tojo clan and like you then just
kind of run away and be a big brother to Saema.
Like you said, he was excited and he seemed like he actually cared about that.
I just don't think that the writers would do him justice if he were to live.
I think that's the one silver lining to his death.
Yeah, they didn't have to have to ruin him.
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So question two, as I kind of skim through redic, there seems to be a lot of discussion
about whether Kiwami 2 sucked compared to Y-Zero and Kiwami 1 or if people enjoyed it compared
to the other two games.
So I'm curious what your thoughts are.
Okay.
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Because you're the ones who actually played everything and I just watched the storyline.
My perspective, there's two main reasons.
Number one, as discussed, Kiryu sucks in this game.
He honestly does not even really feel like the same character that we saw in Yakuza 0
or Kiwami 1.
And then number two is the lack of clarity around a villain.
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They keep the events of the past so hidden just for the sake of having countless repetitive
surprises that we have a really hard time zeroing in on who the bad guy actually is.
And I think they noticed this and tried to remedy it with Ryuji.
My bet would be that he was a late addition to the game and that Sayama was originally
supposed to be the missing child, but they realized they needed a more visual villain.
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So they created Ryuji and gave him the simple motive of wanting to be the one true dragon.
And then also additionally really dumb things like the Kazuki double, the florist's son.
The tattoo thing?
Yeah.
And then also forcing a romantic plotline into it where it doesn't fit?
So let's not forget the like, I don't know, five or six wild goose chases we had to go
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on.
And the game seems aware of it.
When they get that, was it the Shoki tile that they needed to find Marai?
And the guy tries to steal it from them and Sayama's like, hey, we just went on this wild
goose chase to find it.
Even the game knows that they're doing that, but they still do it.
Okay, I should move on to topic three.
Majima Makoto, everything and anything goes for this category.
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So I'm going to just let you, honestly, I have like one note.
So like whatever you are still feeling open-ended about, let's just get into it.
Yeah, and I think this is finally me processing three games worth of content.
We had to take it back to NY Zero.
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We had this big argument.
And my thought was that Majima took away her choice to make a decision.
And your argument was that he made the best choice for her, even if it meant taking away
her choice.
And we kind of see similar themes again in this third game.
I think somewhere between Y Zero and Kiwami too, I was hoping that she would come to her
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senses and be like, you know what, I think it's okay to be with Majima.
And this one just pretty much shut that door on my face because it's probably never going
to happen.
But logically, I know why this whole story is the way it is.
My heart just isn't catching up to it.
And I think I'm finally catching on to why sometimes and not so happily ever after is
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the best way to end it.
I feel such pain in my heart knowing that his love has no bounds for her and she won't
ever know the extent how much he puts her first consistently.
And so I think that's kind of where my frustrations are is I feel like Makoto needs to know how
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much Majima loves her.
Well, you kind of highlighted a difference between Kiryu and Majima if we can continue
to just bash Kiryu.
Because Majima does what Kiryu should have done, right?
And not bring someone back into the Yakuza.
Kiryu should have either decided I am cutting all ties with the Yakuza to raise Haruka or
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I'm too dangerous of a person to raise Haruka.
It's kind of a similar situation to Majima and Makoto.
But Majima makes the right choices.
He's being responsible.
And if he can't leave the Yakuza, then he can't risk putting Makoto in harm's way because
it's, from his perspective, kind of selfish, right?
But Kiryu does that.
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And I think it just highlights a big difference with the two and why Majima is perhaps so
much more satisfying as a character.
Majima made his bed and he's willing to lay down in this very lonely little bed that he
made for himself knowing that Makoto is going to be safe and sound and happy.
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I want Makoto to know that that's how much Majima is willing to sacrifice for her.
And I think I'm frustrated because she'll never know.
It's hard.
That's why it's sad.
But that's also why it's good.
I get it.
I finally, going back to why, had I known this was going to be happening, I think I
would have taken back saying that I kind of understand that, yes, she should have had
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her own choices.
But because Majima is the man he is, and he was doing this out of just absolute protection
for her, it kind of makes sense.
And I understand why this is probably one of your favorite romantic plots of all time.
But also, can you imagine how much worse this game would be if we didn't have Majima?
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He is a godsend in this game.
These chapters are a much needed break.
From the stupidity that we've been seeing.
Yes.
So that was just my rant.
I just needed to get it off my chest to say that.
Closure.
Yeah, closure.
And three years ago, I don't know if I would have, I don't think I would have known I would
get to where I am now with understanding and being closer to the acceptance stage.
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Well, I think that's a good transition to topic four.
KFCs.
So, point one, stale biscuit.
I'll let you choose.
There's not many to choose from.
Yuya.
But the problem with Yuya is that that's his personality.
It's like you can't really blame him for that.
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It's not his fault.
He's stupid.
Yeah.
No, do you want to guess again?
I don't think this is what it is, but I kind of want it to be Besho just because he completely
fell out of the story and we never heard from him again.
I forgot that he existed, so I didn't even consider him.
So that is a great point.
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But for me, it's Date.
And I just have a vendetta against this guy.
He's so useless, has low observation skills, unable to take care of a child or makes the
wrong decision by bringing her closer to a bomb.
And multiple people get shot in this game because he's either distracting them, has
a very, very, very bad timing.
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I feel like he's even less important than Kiryu to this plot.
So we should have just gotten rid of him.
I think we've mentioned this before, but the characters they decide to hold on to throughout
the series versus the ones they don't is mind boggling.
At this point, Haruka just needs to go to college and just leave because what a useless
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character.
Can we just kill her off already?
Anyways, moving on.
The actual KFC category, Cathy's favorite character.
I think this is obvious, but I'll let you still go.
Ryuji.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how any of us could pick someone else besides him.
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An absolute beast of a man who's the epitome of integrity, competence, and confidence.
I feel mad that he had to lose to Kiryu and I understand it's for the plot, but he just
needs to change his hair color.
But otherwise he's like the perfect guy to marry besides Majima.
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Are we on KFC or Kentucky Scorcher right now?
Oh, KFC.
You're moving ever so slightly closer to Kentucky Scorcher.
Well, okay.
So I guess who do you think my KS is?
It would have to be, well, I would say either him or Majima, but I feel like you could pull
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a fast one and say Daigo.
Daigo's too young for me though.
I feel creepy choosing a man who still wears a puffy jacket.
Like a child.
No, I don't think he's that young.
I even wrote in my notes, I think Daigo, if he was a bit further matured in this game,
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because he's still young and I still see him as a child from 1-0.
I'm trying to find how old he is in this game.
Oh, that's actually a great point.
30.
He was 30.
In Kiwami?
Yeah.
Wait, what was-
Someone older than you is too young for you, Kathy.
No, wait, how old was he in Y-Zero then?
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12.
He looked like 7.
But that's how I remembered him as.
Anyways, so-
He's dressed like a dumbass, but he's not that young.
Oh, okay.
Well, anyways, my KS was Majima.
I can see why you think so highly of him.
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I don't know.
There's something about his confidence in the way he carries himself in this game.
And also, maybe it's because I was pretty much blind when Nishiki existed and that's
how he was my KS.
But now that Nishiki is no longer part of the picture, I do think that there's something
in his eyes.
You can see how intelligent this man is.
I'm leaning towards the Majima team.
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He's just so complex.
It's hard to not like him.
By the way, we forgot to mention we didn't do blind picks because Kathy knows a lot of
the characters already.
So it kind of defeats the purpose of the experiment.
Yeah.
So, your LFC though, I feel like it's either Ryuji or Majima, but I actually don't know
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who you would choose.
I think it probably would be Ryuji.
I really liked Shindo and Yoyoi, but they just didn't have enough screen time to be
a favorite.
So you like, in terms of your favorite character, Ryuji more than Majima?
I think so, just because of how refreshing he is as a character.
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I mean, Majima is a close, you know, it could be a tie because I do think that this is peak
Majima.
But I just think Ryuji is a character that we don't really see in this series.
So I feel like we just have to give him props for that.
Yeah.
What about Kentucky Scorcher though?
Probably Majima or Daigo.
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If we're going off of personality, Majima, if it's just looks, Daigo.
Without the coat.
Yeah, without the coat.
I will say that once he took that jacket off, definitely Daigo then.
Again, none of them have body hair.
They're still bathing in nair, still to this day.
Yeah, that's actually a good point.
They're all very silky smooth baby skin.
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It's weird.
Do you have any idea how much upkeep that probably is?
Not worth it.
Yeah, I know.
Okay, topic five.
Counts and stats.
There are three hidden stats this time.
One of them, I guess how many people were actually like dead dead, like we know for
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sure.
No, that's too hard to know.
If that's not the stat, I guess should have tried again or doing.
One more guess on stat one.
Ooh.
Are they going to hit?
Language.
How many times English music came up?
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It was nannies.
Oh.
And not just in a sentence.
It's just when they use it as their sentence.
Why do I feel like I don't remember any, but I feel like they had to have said something.
Can I get how many digits there are in this number?
No.
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Okay.
It's either not a lot or an abundance of it.
I'd say, I don't know, a hundred.
That's too much.
Let's go with 50 somewhere in the middle.
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Six.
Oh, dang.
I was like, it's three or a hundred.
I was like, let's do a hundred.
You thought it was going to be another bird situation.
You overcompensated.
I can't ever be confident with myself ever again with that bird thing.
All right.
Stat number two, you get two guesses.
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If you don't guess this one, I'm going to be mad at you.
That's my hint.
How many times Qt was being stupid?
I don't know if I can quantify that.
I feel like that's just one long-
Unending stupidity.
You know what I mean?
There's only one, but it's the whole game.
Yeah.
But no, it's not what it is.
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I would say how many times an NPC did something weird, like walk close and then turn around
or pretend to have dicks.
You know what I mean?
The Kazama thing.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
No.
Percentage or count?
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Count.
Hint?
I need a hint.
I gave you a hint.
I said I would be really mad at you if you don't get it.
How many door slams or Kiryu's anger outburst?
Closer, but no.
How many times I was angry?
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Slaps.
Oh my god.
I thought for sure you were going to get this one.
You either make it very hard or you make it very easy, and I seem to never get the right
one.
We know in the beginning, Soyeon, and then we have... Did Yayoi slap Shindo?
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I can't remember.
And then Sayama slapping the dude, the dude slapping Sayama.
Like four slaps right there.
I feel like it has to be one more male slap than a female slapping male.
So I would say five?
Five.
Yeah.
And one punch.
Nice.
Yeah, we had two male and female slaps, two female and male slaps, and one male and male
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slap, in case you were curious.
What male and male?
Majima slaps the guy.
Murata is his name that I made up for him.
I still have yet to confirm if that's true.
His bringing him in.
Before the fish slips.
Yeah.
And then Sayama gets the life punch out of her face in the clinic.
And the thing is her dad just watched.
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Actually though.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's time to redeem yourself.
Third step, what is it?
It's so hard.
Hint?
I'm just going to automatically have to give me a hint each time.
I don't know how good of a hint this is, but it's something people do.
Multiple people.
Hide?
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Like how many times someone was like, not hiding, but like around the corner, like,
I can't even think of the English words in my mind.
Like eavesdropping?
Yeah, eavesdropping.
That's what the word is.
Good golly, could not think of it.
No.
Oh gosh.
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All that work thinking of the word.
It was cigarettes smoked.
What?
Oh my God.
Was there even that many people smoking?
I know Kiryu smoked like twice with Sayama or probably more.
I don't think Majima smokes.
I don't think it's a lot.
I think like three.
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Is that your guess?
Yeah.
Well, there were three cigars, but there were 23 cigarettes.
Oh my gosh.
I need examples.
Well, the Flora smokes cigars.
We saw him three times and he always had one.
Kiryu has one multiple times.
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I think he smokes in Serena about three times on a bridge once.
Kashiwagi offered the juice box cigarette to Daigo.
There's a lot.
I still can't believe you didn't guess slaps.
I'm kind of upset at myself for not guessing that either.
Yeah, we're going to have to end it.
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Yeah.
What a way to end this game.
Well, I haven't recorded the gameplay for the next game, so there will probably not
be a hidden quote to guess.
But we'll be back on Christmas Eve with Scary Christmas.
I'm excited.
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Me too.
For Christmas and not for this scary game.
Anyways, we're going to close it.
We'll see you Christmas Eve.
Adacity on one, three, two, one.
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I don't know how to start.
I think this is going to be a short episode.
Last episode was obviously quite a bit longer than usual.
And I think we got a lot out that we needed to say in that episode.
Emotions were high.
Yeah.
I guess let's just start and we'll finish out our first wave of Yakuza.
Yes.
A great way to end the three-part Yakuza that we started with season one, two, and three.
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But not a great way to end the game.
Yeah.
Let's get into it.
Season one, two, and three.
And this is a question we've been asking throughout.
What is the point of Kiryu in this game?
If he didn't exist, would there still be a plot?
Why is he here?
And I'll get into it.
He has no purpose and he doesn't add anything to the plot.
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We didn't need him, honestly.
I think it reiterates the fact that Sayama could have and should have been the protagonist
and just shot him and just take over.
He does nothing.
Next to nothing.
Okay, well, first of all, they make him look like an idiot and a sh-t.
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Because at the start of the game, he says he wants to be a civilian, he wants to be
a good father to Haruka.
And boy, does he change his mind on that at the drop of a hat.
So he goes against everything that he says he wants at the start of the game.
So that's a little bit jarring.
Even though he says he wants those things, he still wants to protect the Tojo for some
reason, and goes way out of his way to do it.
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It doesn't compute.
I feel like, because the main point of this game is to have someone for Ryuji to go up
against because he needs to fight to be the dragon.
And that could have been anyone in the Tojo clan.
It could have been Kashiwagi, it could have been Majima if he went back in.
It didn't need to be Kiryu.
And also, why does he even care about fighting Ryuji?
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To the death, nonetheless.
This is someone who is supposed to be averse to killing, but he's willing to fight this
man to the death just to be the one true dragon when he's not even in the Yakuza and he wants
to be a civilian.
And he's apparently in love with Sayama, but he wants to kill her brother.
Everything about it is just confusing.
Okay, I did include an argument in favor of Kiryu being in this game.
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It's short.
So he brings Daigo back, which provides a new leader for the clan, and he convinces
Majima to help out, which pushes the Omi back and pinpoints the bombs.
However, those are really kind of like the only things he does.
He could have stayed out of it and just advised them to bring in Daigo and Majima.
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And even after this, which essentially is the first two chapters of the game, his character
is kind of useless, which I think is why he is so flawed in the game.
They just tried to force him into a story that didn't truly need him.
Anything else on topic one or should we move on to burning questions?
Let's do burning questions.
All right, so question one, if Ryuji didn't die, what would his character be like in the
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rest of the series?
So I start out by saying here's what I would have liked to see.
I would have liked to see him take over the Omi Alliance, leading to a great setup for
another game where he could be the main villain, who we still find it hard to dislike him.
And it follows him trying to overthrow the Tojo clan and Kamurocho.
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What I realistically think the writers would do with him if he were to live is I think
it would be pretty boring.
He would give it all up.
He would no longer care about being the one true dragon, because essentially he was kind
of used by the Jinguyan, right?
Then his father lied to him.
I think he'd be a little butthurt about being in the Yakuza.
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And we saw him pretty excited to know that Saemo was his sister.
So I think that he would want to get to know her and the two of them would just leave,
go start new lives somewhere.
And we never hear anything about either one of them ever again.
I think mine's kind of similar at this.
And this is all based on the assumption that Hideo continues to stay out of mafia business
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is Ryuji would one, realize that his sister, that's his sister.
And then maybe he would continue to dismantle the Jinguyan because that is really what harmed
him and also the chairman.
So then he'll I feel like he wouldn't run Omi Alliance.
He would just destroy that.
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Or maybe he just sits back and lets the Jinguyan destroy the Tojo clan and like you then just
kind of run away and be a big brother to Saema.
Like you said, he was excited and he seemed like he actually cared about that.
I just don't think that the writers would do him justice if he were to live.
I think that's the one silver lining to his death.
Yeah, they didn't have to have to ruin him.
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So question two, as I kind of skim through redic, there seems to be a lot of discussion
about whether Kiwami 2 sucked compared to Y-Zero and Kiwami 1 or if people enjoyed it compared
to the other two games.
So I'm curious what your thoughts are.
Okay.
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Because you're the ones who actually played everything and I just watched the storyline.
My perspective, there's two main reasons.
Number one, as discussed, Kiryu sucks in this game.
He honestly does not even really feel like the same character that we saw in Yakuza 0
or Kiwami 1.
And then number two is the lack of clarity around a villain.
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They keep the events of the past so hidden just for the sake of having countless repetitive
surprises that we have a really hard time zeroing in on who the bad guy actually is.
And I think they noticed this and tried to remedy it with Ryuji.
My bet would be that he was a late addition to the game and that Sayama was originally
supposed to be the missing child, but they realized they needed a more visual villain.
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So they created Ryuji and gave him the simple motive of wanting to be the one true dragon.
And then also additionally really dumb things like the Kazuki double, the florist's son.
The tattoo thing?
Yeah.
And then also forcing a romantic plotline into it where it doesn't fit?
So let's not forget the like, I don't know, five or six wild goose chases we had to go
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on.
And the game seems aware of it.
When they get that, was it the Shoki tile that they needed to find Marai?
And the guy tries to steal it from them and Sayama's like, hey, we just went on this wild
goose chase to find it.
Even the game knows that they're doing that, but they still do it.
Okay, I should move on to topic three.
Majima Makoto, everything and anything goes for this category.
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So I'm going to just let you, honestly, I have like one note.
So like whatever you are still feeling open-ended about, let's just get into it.
Yeah, and I think this is finally me processing three games worth of content.
We had to take it back to NY Zero.
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We had this big argument.
And my thought was that Majima took away her choice to make a decision.
And your argument was that he made the best choice for her, even if it meant taking away
her choice.
And we kind of see similar themes again in this third game.
I think somewhere between Y Zero and Kiwami too, I was hoping that she would come to her
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senses and be like, you know what, I think it's okay to be with Majima.
And this one just pretty much shut that door on my face because it's probably never going
to happen.
But logically, I know why this whole story is the way it is.
My heart just isn't catching up to it.
And I think I'm finally catching on to why sometimes and not so happily ever after is
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the best way to end it.
I feel such pain in my heart knowing that his love has no bounds for her and she won't
ever know the extent how much he puts her first consistently.
And so I think that's kind of where my frustrations are is I feel like Makoto needs to know how
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much Majima loves her.
Well, you kind of highlighted a difference between Kiryu and Majima if we can continue
to just bash Kiryu.
Because Majima does what Kiryu should have done, right?
And not bring someone back into the Yakuza.
Kiryu should have either decided I am cutting all ties with the Yakuza to raise Haruka or
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I'm too dangerous of a person to raise Haruka.
It's kind of a similar situation to Majima and Makoto.
But Majima makes the right choices.
He's being responsible.
And if he can't leave the Yakuza, then he can't risk putting Makoto in harm's way because
it's, from his perspective, kind of selfish, right?
But Kiryu does that.
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And I think it just highlights a big difference with the two and why Majima is perhaps so
much more satisfying as a character.
Majima made his bed and he's willing to lay down in this very lonely little bed that he
made for himself knowing that Makoto is going to be safe and sound and happy.
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I want Makoto to know that that's how much Majima is willing to sacrifice for her.
And I think I'm frustrated because she'll never know.
It's hard.
That's why it's sad.
But that's also why it's good.
I get it.
I finally, going back to why, had I known this was going to be happening, I think I
would have taken back saying that I kind of understand that, yes, she should have had
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her own choices.
But because Majima is the man he is, and he was doing this out of just absolute protection
for her, it kind of makes sense.
And I understand why this is probably one of your favorite romantic plots of all time.
But also, can you imagine how much worse this game would be if we didn't have Majima?
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He is a godsend in this game.
These chapters are a much needed break.
From the stupidity that we've been seeing.
Yes.
So that was just my rant.
I just needed to get it off my chest to say that.
Closure.
Yeah, closure.
And three years ago, I don't know if I would have, I don't think I would have known I would
get to where I am now with understanding and being closer to the acceptance stage.
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Well, I think that's a good transition to topic four.
KFCs.
So, point one, stale biscuit.
I'll let you choose.
There's not many to choose from.
Yuya.
But the problem with Yuya is that that's his personality.
It's like you can't really blame him for that.
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It's not his fault.
He's stupid.
Yeah.
No, do you want to guess again?
I don't think this is what it is, but I kind of want it to be Besho just because he completely
fell out of the story and we never heard from him again.
I forgot that he existed, so I didn't even consider him.
So that is a great point.
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But for me, it's Date.
And I just have a vendetta against this guy.
He's so useless, has low observation skills, unable to take care of a child or makes the
wrong decision by bringing her closer to a bomb.
And multiple people get shot in this game because he's either distracting them, has
a very, very, very bad timing.
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I feel like he's even less important than Kiryu to this plot.
So we should have just gotten rid of him.
I think we've mentioned this before, but the characters they decide to hold on to throughout
the series versus the ones they don't is mind boggling.
At this point, Haruka just needs to go to college and just leave because what a useless
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character.
Can we just kill her off already?
Anyways, moving on.
The actual KFC category, Cathy's favorite character.
I think this is obvious, but I'll let you still go.
Ryuji.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how any of us could pick someone else besides him.
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An absolute beast of a man who's the epitome of integrity, competence, and confidence.
I feel mad that he had to lose to Kiryu and I understand it's for the plot, but he just
needs to change his hair color.
But otherwise he's like the perfect guy to marry besides Majima.
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Are we on KFC or Kentucky Scorcher right now?
Oh, KFC.
You're moving ever so slightly closer to Kentucky Scorcher.
Well, okay.
So I guess who do you think my KS is?
It would have to be, well, I would say either him or Majima, but I feel like you could pull
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a fast one and say Daigo.
Daigo's too young for me though.
I feel creepy choosing a man who still wears a puffy jacket.
Like a child.
No, I don't think he's that young.
I even wrote in my notes, I think Daigo, if he was a bit further matured in this game,
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because he's still young and I still see him as a child from 1-0.
I'm trying to find how old he is in this game.
Oh, that's actually a great point.
30.
He was 30.
In Kiwami?
Yeah.
Wait, what was-
Someone older than you is too young for you, Kathy.
No, wait, how old was he in Y-Zero then?
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12.
He looked like 7.
But that's how I remembered him as.
Anyways, so-
He's dressed like a dumbass, but he's not that young.
Oh, okay.
Well, anyways, my KS was Majima.
I can see why you think so highly of him.
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I don't know.
There's something about his confidence in the way he carries himself in this game.
And also, maybe it's because I was pretty much blind when Nishiki existed and that's
how he was my KS.
But now that Nishiki is no longer part of the picture, I do think that there's something
in his eyes.
You can see how intelligent this man is.
I'm leaning towards the Majima team.
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He's just so complex.
It's hard to not like him.
By the way, we forgot to mention we didn't do blind picks because Kathy knows a lot of
the characters already.
So it kind of defeats the purpose of the experiment.
Yeah.
So, your LFC though, I feel like it's either Ryuji or Majima, but I actually don't know
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who you would choose.
I think it probably would be Ryuji.
I really liked Shindo and Yoyoi, but they just didn't have enough screen time to be
a favorite.
So you like, in terms of your favorite character, Ryuji more than Majima?
I think so, just because of how refreshing he is as a character.
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I mean, Majima is a close, you know, it could be a tie because I do think that this is peak
Majima.
But I just think Ryuji is a character that we don't really see in this series.
So I feel like we just have to give him props for that.
Yeah.
What about Kentucky Scorcher though?
Probably Majima or Daigo.
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If we're going off of personality, Majima, if it's just looks, Daigo.
Without the coat.
Yeah, without the coat.
I will say that once he took that jacket off, definitely Daigo then.
Again, none of them have body hair.
They're still bathing in nair, still to this day.
Yeah, that's actually a good point.
They're all very silky smooth baby skin.
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It's weird.
Do you have any idea how much upkeep that probably is?
Not worth it.
Yeah, I know.
Okay, topic five.
Counts and stats.
There are three hidden stats this time.
One of them, I guess how many people were actually like dead dead, like we know for
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sure.
No, that's too hard to know.
If that's not the stat, I guess should have tried again or doing.
One more guess on stat one.
Ooh.
Are they going to hit?
Language.
How many times English music came up?
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It was nannies.
Oh.
And not just in a sentence.
It's just when they use it as their sentence.
Why do I feel like I don't remember any, but I feel like they had to have said something.
Can I get how many digits there are in this number?
No.
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Okay.
It's either not a lot or an abundance of it.
I'd say, I don't know, a hundred.
That's too much.
Let's go with 50 somewhere in the middle.
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Six.
Oh, dang.
I was like, it's three or a hundred.
I was like, let's do a hundred.
You thought it was going to be another bird situation.
You overcompensated.
I can't ever be confident with myself ever again with that bird thing.
All right.
Stat number two, you get two guesses.
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If you don't guess this one, I'm going to be mad at you.
That's my hint.
How many times Qt was being stupid?
I don't know if I can quantify that.
I feel like that's just one long-
Unending stupidity.
You know what I mean?
There's only one, but it's the whole game.
Yeah.
But no, it's not what it is.
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I would say how many times an NPC did something weird, like walk close and then turn around
or pretend to have dicks.
You know what I mean?
The Kazama thing.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
No.
Percentage or count?
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Count.
Hint?
I need a hint.
I gave you a hint.
I said I would be really mad at you if you don't get it.
How many door slams or Kiryu's anger outburst?
Closer, but no.
How many times I was angry?
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Slaps.
Oh my god.
I thought for sure you were going to get this one.
You either make it very hard or you make it very easy, and I seem to never get the right
one.
We know in the beginning, Soyeon, and then we have... Did Yayoi slap Shindo?
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I can't remember.
And then Sayama slapping the dude, the dude slapping Sayama.
Like four slaps right there.
I feel like it has to be one more male slap than a female slapping male.
So I would say five?
Five.
Yeah.
And one punch.
Nice.
Yeah, we had two male and female slaps, two female and male slaps, and one male and male
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slap, in case you were curious.
What male and male?
Majima slaps the guy.
Murata is his name that I made up for him.
I still have yet to confirm if that's true.
His bringing him in.
Before the fish slips.
Yeah.
And then Sayama gets the life punch out of her face in the clinic.
And the thing is her dad just watched.
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Actually though.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's time to redeem yourself.
Third step, what is it?
It's so hard.
Hint?
I'm just going to automatically have to give me a hint each time.
I don't know how good of a hint this is, but it's something people do.
Multiple people.
Hide?
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Like how many times someone was like, not hiding, but like around the corner, like,
I can't even think of the English words in my mind.
Like eavesdropping?
Yeah, eavesdropping.
That's what the word is.
Good golly, could not think of it.
No.
Oh gosh.
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All that work thinking of the word.
It was cigarettes smoked.
What?
Oh my God.
Was there even that many people smoking?
I know Kiryu smoked like twice with Sayama or probably more.
I don't think Majima smokes.
I don't think it's a lot.
I think like three.
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Is that your guess?
Yeah.
Well, there were three cigars, but there were 23 cigarettes.
Oh my gosh.
I need examples.
Well, the Flora smokes cigars.
We saw him three times and he always had one.
Kiryu has one multiple times.
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I think he smokes in Serena about three times on a bridge once.
Kashiwagi offered the juice box cigarette to Daigo.
There's a lot.
I still can't believe you didn't guess slaps.
I'm kind of upset at myself for not guessing that either.
Yeah, we're going to have to end it.
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Yeah.
What a way to end this game.
Well, I haven't recorded the gameplay for the next game, so there will probably not
be a hidden quote to guess.
But we'll be back on Christmas Eve with Scary Christmas.
I'm excited.
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Me too.
For Christmas and not for this scary game.
Anyways, we're going to close it.
We'll see you Christmas Eve.
Adacity on one, three, two, one.
Thank you for listening and don't forget to send in any questions, comments or game suggestions.
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