May 25, 2023 • 34 mins
This episode is dedicated to toxicities and dangers that can befall your pets. Some are ones you have never heard of, or would even consider- so listen up!
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Hi, I'm Jme.
And I'm Pate.
And we're from Motley Zoo AnimalRescue, and this is our podcast
Rescue Shit.
Today we're gonna talk aboutsome different household common
things that, can endanger yourdog.
Right.
And not just household things,but things that you don't think
might be poisonous that areactually very harmful for your
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dog.
Like even water.
Innocuous things that youwouldn't even think could be a
danger.
Exactly.
We had a litter of dogs like amother and puppies.
We named them after the TVseries, the Hacks, and a little
puppy, DJ Vance.
Very sweet girl.
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She loved to kiss you.
She made out with Mattie Healyfrom the 1975.
I have pictures to prove it.
No, seriously, she did.
But she actually is ourexperience with water toxicity.
I don't remember exactly whathappened but I remember she
literally almost died.
Yeah, she did.
And it was from drinking toomuch water.
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It wasn't playing with water,which is what you normally hear
of the water toxicity happening.
She actually drank too muchwater when she was out running
around and playing with hersister.
Both of'em drank a lot of water,but she.
I don't know, like if, if shedrank twice as much as her
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sister or whatever, because youturn around and both of'em had
swollen bellies because theydrank too much.
We've been doing rescue for 14years now.
Yeah.
And this is the very first timethat this has happened.
And when we saw her, she acted alittle drunk and she wasn't her
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normal, bouncy, playful self,and she was staggering a little
bit and then she became quitelethargic.
And almost had seizure-likeactivity.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
You had her.
Yes.
So, you know, you knew what wasgoing on and I remember you
telling me about it, but, yeah,we were really, really shocked
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when they finally figured itout.
Didn't we think like liver shuntor something like that?
Yeah, it was very Just out ofthe blue, you know, cuz we'd had
her for a while.
She was about three months oldby then I think.
and so it was quite confusingcuz like with the liver shunt,
she should have shown moresymptoms, been a bit more
symptomatic and, I didn't reallyknow what was going on, but I
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knew something bad washappening.
She was vomiting, she lostcontrol of her bladder on me,
and that's why I thought, oh no,she's having seizure activity.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I called theER of course, because that's
what you do.
And it was kind of funny cuzthey were quite apologetic and
they were like, did she get intoany pot?
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And I was like, yeah, no, thatdidn't happen at all.
And they're like, it's okay ifit did.
But I was like, dude, no, no.
And I was like, we do have CBDfor the dogs, but it is not in
the house.
And there's nothing wrong withpot.
No but you guys are prettystraight edge here.
It's just not in your, in yourwheelhouse.
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Gary's very straight edge.
However, after my cancerdiagnosis, he did visit a pot
store and I think boughthundreds of dollars worth of
items for me to deal with my,like, my nausea and pain and
everything.
So, he's no longer superstraight edge, but so, but we
don't normally have pot in thehouse because, you know, I don't
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have cancer or side effectsanymore.
Right?
Yeah.
It's just not your thing.
Right?
Yeah.
Whatever.
I'll have some gummies every nowand then, it's fine, but
whatever.
That's besides the point.
But they were very, it was veryfunny because they didn't wanna
offend me.
Yeah.
And when I was, when I toldthem, no, it's not a possibility
whatsoever, they were stilllike, well, it really does sound
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like it's, pot toxicity, whichis kind of common.
But regardless, so like, youknow, you need to bring her in.
I was like, well, yeah, I'mbringing her in.
But they were still in the backof their heads(mm-hmm) thinking
that she got into someone'sstash, right?
Mm-hmm.
Until they saw her.
And when we got there to the er,before they took her into the
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back of the room, I told them, Iwas like, she's gonna vomit.
Because you could look at theirface, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They do that vomit smile.
I'm like, dude, she's gonnavomit.
No one pays attention to me andI don't know why.
And that's why I get to say Itold you so all the time.
But so she leans over Gary'sshoulder like a huge gush and
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I'm like, wow, that's a lot ofwater.
And I looked at'em and I'm like,see?
And Gary got to wear that one asa, he got punished for their,
their lack of, interest inlistening to you.
Right?
Yeah.
Cuz it was right in the middleof the lobby, so they had to do
cleanup.
Right.
So I was trying to like, helpthem avoid that, but
nonetheless.
Mm-hmm.
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And then she actually did stayovernight and her symptoms were
very much like a toxic effect.
And they finally diagnosed withall of her blood work,
stabilizing her, everything likethat, that she suffered from
water toxicity.
Well, they found out in theblood work there was definitely
no pot in her system.
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And you were telling the truth.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, did they justrule everything else out or like
what specifically led them tothe water diagnosis?
There was some, now I gottaresearch this.
There was something in the bloodwork mm-hmm.
That was off.
Like diluted.
Yes.
Or something.
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Mm-hmm.
That did show them most likelythat it was the water.
Mm-hmm.
And the fact that she wasvomiting water all over the
place.
Yeah.
That's really weird and scaryand not common.
No.
But this is why it's reallyimportant(yeah) to make sure
your dogs have water, access towater all the time so they don't
gorge when they get water.
And when they're playing, Inoticed at the daycare, going to
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the water bucket is kind of likea thing to do.
It's not necessarily thatthey're thirsty.
Mm-hmm.
It's like they play, play, play,and then they're like, oh, let's
go over by the water bucket.
And it's like, it's just anotheroutlet for them.
Mm-hmm.
And so, you know, you would needto watch that and make sure that
no one's super gorgingthemselves.
Right.
And then like you said, if youkeep the water from them,
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they're going to gorge more.
Yeah.
Definitely make sure thatthere's water available and if
your dog does seem to bedrinking a lot(mm-hmm) chances
are it's more likely a kidneyproblem or something like that.
Or diabetes.
Yeah.
Which you need to get taken careof.
But probably unlikely thatthey're gonna have toxicity from
it because their body'sprocessing it differently.
Mm-hmm.
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So, yeah.
But it does happen.
And she was actually fine thenext day, after they stabilized
her.
That's good.
Yeah.
So here's something weird that Idon't think a lot of people
would know, but it's actually arelatively common problem.
And it's a potato chip bag.
Yes.
Or you know, cracker bag or anyof those kinds of things because
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the dog goes through thegarbage, they pull something
like that out, it gets stuck ontheir head and then they
suffocate.
Right.
Because as they breathe, the bagcloses in on'em.
Yeah.
It sucks in and they can't getit off.
And we actually do know someonewhose dog died that way.
Yeah.
And they were terriblydevastated.
They were coming to us for a newdog and they told us about what
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happened and you know, obviouslywe didn't hold that against
them.
That was not a neglectful thing.
That's a weird, weird, unusualthing, but, but it is actually
somewhat common.
Yeah.
And it's not that weird andunusual, but it's something that
people don't think about.
Yeah.
But I mean, we even have aflyer...
Yes.
That we hand out(mm-hmm) when wedo adoptions about it, because
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it's such an unknown thing, butit, it could really happen at
any time.
So it's really important thatthe garbage is secured and, or
your, you know, dog is in acrate or, you know, you cut
those bags up so that they can'tstick their head in them and not
get it off.
Right.
There are milk cartons now the,the, the, they're not, they're
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paper.
The paper.
Mm-hmm.
Like wax paper cartons.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So true story.
I had basenjis right?
So, until my, my last one passedaway and, and Gary said, no more
Basenjis.
And I love Basenjis, I love themso much.
But anyway, So in Florida it'svery common for people to have
pools, right?
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And you don't think about thingslike that.
And, accidents happen in poolsall the time, especially the in
ground pools and which is whythe insurance companies want you
to have the fencing or, orwhatnot.
But anyway, so true story:.
a Basenji got her head.
Because she got in the garbage.
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She wasn't crated.
They went to work and they hadtheir door open to the pool area
and their pool was not safelyenclosed or, or whatnot.
And she got her head in a milkcarton and fell in the pool.
Oh, no.
So, while a milk carton is notas dangerous, per se, as a chip
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bag where you don't need a poolto, to help expedite that.
Yeah.
You really have to think aboutwhat you throw in your garbage,
right?
And how to secure your garbage.
It's kind of like, you know, theplastic, yeah.
Rings.
The six pack rings that you cutup so that the birds and, and
other animals don't eat them.
I cut them into tiny bits.
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Exactly.
I'm always cutting the, theplastic rings as well.
But you have to think aboutthings that you put in your
garbage that your dog can getinto and that your dog can
possibly get injured by, whichis, you know, the chip bag can
be fatal, but even, you know, ifyou get a milk carton and they
run into the wall, they run onthe furniture, fall off the
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furniture.
Mm-hmm.
You could have, I mean,hopefully no damage, but
depending on the size of thedog, a leg injury or even a back
injury if they fall.
Yeah.
And start like flailing andtweaking.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, that is one I've neverheard before, but I believe that
it is, scary.
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So a lot of people also mightnot know that grapes are really
not good for your dog and it'sbecause whatever toxin is in the
skin, I think it is, itactually, it's fat soluble, so
it stays in their body andbuilds up over time.
So if you give them grapes, toooften, I mean, you shouldn't do
it at all.
Mm-hmm.
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But it's not like you give themthe grape, they metabolize it
and you're done.
Every grape you give them is.
Leading up to a bigger andbigger problem, Right.
The thing with the grapes andreasons, and they don't know why
really, but they, can causerapid kidney failure.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then sometimes you canforget cuz you're like, you've
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got some trail mix.
Well, hopefully you're notgiving them the chocolate from
the trail mix.
But I mean, cookies haveraisins.
I mean, keep'em away from yourRaisin bran alright because
raisins are even more toxic thanthe grapes because they're
almost like concentrated grapes.
Mm-hmm.
And some dogs, even just a fewgrapes, can cause kidney failure
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and have them be hospitalized.
Raisins, you meant a fewraisins.
What did I say?
Grapes?
Yes.
Raisins.
Raisins.
Even a couple raisins.
Right, cuz it's concentratedgrapes.
So you mentioned chocolatebefore.
That's probably one that a lotof people know about, right?
But what exactly happens and whyis that one a big one?
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Well, so it's not all chocolate,right?
It depends on the content ofthe.
I don't even...
The cacao.
I was gonna say, am I gonna evensay it right?
The ca The kawakawa.
Kaka.
But how kind of word is that?
I know, I know.
But that's what you're doing.
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That's, that's where yourchocolate comes from.
Is from this, is it a bean?
Yes.
I don't even know.
Maybe I should, I really need toresearch before we talk, talk
about stuff.
Well, it's not good for anydogs, but some dogs it's like
people being allergic to beestings.
You know, nobody likes beingstung and anyone can go into
anaphylactic shock if you getstung enough.
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But some people are superallergic to bees and the same
thing is for chocolate.
Dogs can be super, superallergic and super reactive of
it.
And other dogs, you know, caneat a whole box of chocolate and
be completely fine other thansome diarrhea usually.
Right.
But it really depends on thatcontent of the cacao because you
can have milk chocolate.
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Very low cacao content.
Right?
But then you've got...
The super dark chocolates.
Yeah.
Good thing.
I don't like dark chocolate,but...
So this actually sadly happenedto one of the first few dogs
that we adopted out.
It was a chocolate Lab, sadly,ironically.
And they had had a campfire thenight before and the kids left
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the, s'more stuff out and thedog went down to the fire pit.
And ate Hershey's, which is milkchocolate.
Yeah.
And you know, I mean, therecouldn't have been that much
that it ate, but, but the dogtotally died.
Hmm.
Well, I mean, was it a, a bar ofit?
I don't know how much.
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Yeah.
But, but I remember thinking itseemed like a small amount for a
lab to eat(mm-hmm) and die from.
Well, I mean, but they alsohave.
Like dark chocolate Hershey, andlike, did the Hershey have
almonds in it?
Like...
Yeah.
I don't, I don't think so, but,they just called me to tell me.
Mm-hmm.
Because they, they felt so badand they were upset and they
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hadn't had'em for too longeither, but...
Oh, that's horrible.
But it was, yeah, it was reallyawful.
And obviously we were so sad forthem.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, but like I said, youreally have to look at your
content, right?
Because, the cacao the higher,the percentage, the higher
content of the cacao is thehigher the toxicity level, but
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the probability(mm-hmm) of afatality from your chocolate is
lessened by the percentage ofthat cacao.
You know what's interesting isthat my grandmother used to give
her dogs, peanut m and ms as atreat every day, That's milk
chocolate.
Every day.
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Damn.
And one time she had some in hersweater pocket and he smelled
them.
And so he, he sucked and suckedand sucked on the sweater pocket
until he sucked all thechocolate and candy out.
And all that was left in herpocket was the peanuts.
But yeah, so when I was olderand I found out that chocolate
is bad for dogs(mm-hmm) I waslike, holy shit.
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We were giving him that everyday.
Yeah.
And another thing that can causeissues with dogs and, and
sometimes requirehospitalization are onions and
garlic and, you know, and leaks,which is part of the onion
family.
So I, I guess stay away from anyoniony.
Oniony.
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That would be be chives too.
I don't know.
No, they're onions.
Are they?
Yeah.
Okay.
So the thing is, is like onionscan actually damage or like
injure, for lack of a betterword, like red blood cells and
cause hemolytic anemia and thatis going to you know, require
hospitalization.
Mm-hmm.
Do you know what the symptoms ofthat are?
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No.
Okay.
Yeah, that was a dumb questionto ask without having some
research back us up.
So another thing that peoplereally might not know about is
xylitol, and that is theartificial sweetener, I should
say.
Mm-hmm.
That is in, sugarless gum.
A lot of Sugarless candies, alot of diabetic products, and it
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is just super toxic for them.
It's actually in your toothpasteas well.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a lot of things that you maynot even think that you would
put xylitol in.
Like, seriously, do we reallyneed...
Sweet toothpaste?
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, just add mint right?
Whatever.
I don't understand why you havexylitol in your toothpaste, but
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nonetheless, a lot of toothpastehas xylitol in it.
So you really have to look atyour ingredients of things that
you have, because xylitol willdrop their blood sugar so
quickly and it can be fatal.
Yeah.
And even peanut butter, a lot ofpeople don't think about peanut
butter.
Like, seriously, why do you needxylitol on your peanut butter?
Right?
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Yeah.
It's weird that most peanutbutters on the shelf are not
just peanuts and oil and salt.
Right.
You have to look really hard tofind one that is in almost every
peanut butter has some kind ofsugar in it.
Mm-hmm.
And palm oil, by the way.
Which, which I try and avoid.
Yeah.
Cause we like orangutans.
Yes.
Yes.
it's in a lot of things that youdon't think about and thankfully
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there's kind of a, a more of anawareness coming about with this
one.
And it's becoming more common totalk about, to know about.
But you know, you just put yourpurse down and your dog goes in
your purse and gets your gumout.
Mm-hmm.
And it, that could be enough tokill them.
We recently had someone that weknow.
And it wasn't an adopter of oursbecause I always tell the
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adopters about xylitol.
But someone we know Easter,Easter candy.
Oh yeah.
And, um, and normally when youthink of Easter candy,
chocolate, but I don't know whatcandy had xylitol on it, but it
did.
And, that dog was rushed to theer.
That dog fortunately survived.
And the person was shocked.
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She never heard of it.
And what I said to her on herInstagram, because she was just
telling everyone, she's like, ohmy God, I didn't even know this.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so she was trying to spreadawareness to her friends, right?
And so I said, Another thing isthat when you look at the
ingredients, you may not seexylitol because now they're
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calling xylitol birch sugar.
Oh, and that's great.
Yes.
B I R C H Sugar.
That is xylitol.
Oh, why, why would they do that?
Because they wanna make it soundmore natural?
I guess.
But yeah, to the detriment ofmany, many animals.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know that part, sothat's good to know.
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Mm-hmm.
I mean, I like real sugars in mything, so like, even my soda, I
prefer the mountain dew withreal sugar as opposed to the
corn syrup.
Yeah.
As opposed to zero or whatever.
Oh, I, yeah.
I can't do that.
Gimme my sugar.
Yeah, sugar.
Sugar, that's a good song.
I remember, a lot of people getcoffee grounds or cocoa shells
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(Mm) for their mulch.
Mm.
And that can actually be toxicfor your dog.
So the coffee and caffeine.
Yeah.
So make sure that you're notgetting those things, if you
have dogs, because if theydecide to eat them, that, that
could be really dangerous.
Oh yeah.
That caffeine.
Well, and especially cuz a lotof people like the dark color.
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Oh yeah.
But you have to get wood that'sdyed like that color instead of
the coffee or the cocoa.
Right.
And then, well, I mean the, thecoffee grounds, like people, the
reason why people use it is cuzit, it's nutrient rich.
Yeah.
For the soil.
But if you're doing it aroundyour dogs, I mean, the, the
caffeine causes heartarrhythmias and seizures, and
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it's just not worth it.
No.
So sometimes plants, houseplants, even outdoor plants, can
be toxic for dogs and cats.
I know we focus mostly on dogsbut typically because.
Dogs are more scavengers and,you know, likely to get in the
garbage, likely to ingestobstructions.
But the plants are somethingthat, you know, you never know
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what they're gonna get into.
And, I think probably one of themost common ones everybody knows
of is at Christmas thepoinsettias.
Yes.
Obviously I think that one's apretty common understanding, but
the amaryllis.
People give amaryllis aspresents for, Christmas too
and...
That's a really good song byShinedown by the way.
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And then, The Easter lilies(mm-hmm) that Asiatic Lily.
The Easter Lilly can be toxic.
Right.
And that's toxic to both catsand dogs.
Yeah.
And, and the problem, probablyis bigger with cats because cats
often eat plants.
The indoor ones especially.
Yeah.
I mean, Tut is always eatingsome spider plant or something,
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and, and then he throws up, he,he eats it every time and then
he throws up every time.
And I mean, thankfully it's notlike toxic toxic, but...
Right.
I don't know why he wants to eatit when it makes him throw up.
Why do dogs eat grass and vomit?
I don't know.
Yeah.
One of life's mysteries?
Meatball, obsessively kind ofeats grass when he's on it.
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Mm-hmm.
So we don't have a lot of grassand mostly he's on concrete at
my house.
Right.
So on the patio, in the backwhere they go, and then on the
balcony it's concrete.
Axl's making a mess.
Oh, paper.
He really wants, he wants to gooutside.
He can hear Gary outside doingtraining, and so he's crying
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about it.
He's about to throw on a, a fullon toddler temper tantrum.
Mm-hmm.
In a minute.
Well, and then call lilies canbe dangerous.
And, you know, probably thechances of your dog eating.
Those kinds of things outsideare pretty, pretty low.
And then, rhododendrons,azaleas.
That's outside.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
They can be a problem.
And then...
Fox Glove.
Yeah, Fox Glove is beautiful andit's really not something that,
you know, most dogs would eat,but it is deadly to anyone.
People.
It's how they make nitroglycerinfor, the people that have heart
attacks, so it really can messyou up.
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But they're so pretty and I love'em.
Yeah.
I mean, they're wild here.
Mm-hmm.
And as long as you're, you know,pretty careful, then that should
be fine.
Right.
so English ivy actually is, so,so more urban plants are gonna
be like your English ivy, yourhorse chest nuts, your English
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laurel, and the rhododenronsthat you, that you already
talked about.
But like, if you're hiking, youknow, you have to worry about
like the Fox glove Yeah.
And then Lily of the valley, wehave that as well.
The toxic effects range fromtypical stomach upset.
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To, you know, more like seriousand life threatening conditions
like seizures instead of justthe, the stomach upset of nausea
and vomiting, which, you know,is, is never good.
No.
But at least it's not fatal.
You know, obviously mushrooms inthe yard.
Yeah.
We don't know what he got into.
Mm-hmm.
But my cat, Biki started actinglike his eyes were rolling back
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in his head.
And all we could think is maybesomehow, like he got a piece of
mushroom or mm-hmm.
Like maybe we even stepped on itand brought it in the house or
something like that.
And I'm sure like, like you, thevet probably thought it was
drugs or something.
Actually I'm fairly confidentthey did because it was at like
midnight.
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Mm-hmm.
And you know, Bryan and I arepunk rock looking and so I'm
sure they judged us and thoughtit was drugs.
Right.
But I got judged just by myvoice cuz I was on the phone.
But by the time we got to thevet, he started recovering but
he was falling over.
Mm-hmm.
And eyes rolling in his head andI've never seen anything like
it.
And by the time we got to thevet, He had recovered.
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And so I, I don't know what hegot into, but he wasn't like a
plant eater.
Like Tut is.
Right.
And, Sago Palm is another indoorone.
Or you know, a tropical one ifyou live out in Florida or
whatever.
Right.
Florida, like Florida, you heara lot about the Sego palms.
And, and that is a huge issueand so many people have it and
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don't even realize it.
Yeah.
I mean, around here you, youknow, you have it cuz you have
to have it in your house...
They're really cool lookingthough.
I really are.
I really like them.
Mm-hmm.
I've had plants in my house thatwould be toxic if my animals ate
them, but you know, they,they're not near them or, you
know, they don't eat them.
And so, I mean, you, you have tobe careful.
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But...
Yeah, I just.
I don't have a green thumb, so,my dogs are in no danger from
indoor plants.
Yeah.
Well you're becoming more of a,of a botanist, living out here
now.
Well, yeah.
You're learning.
Well, yeah, cuz I'm like, isthat, is that, is that a weed?
Do I leave it?
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I'm like, it's so pretty.
That's a weed pull it..
I'm like, ah, really?
Because it's kinda pretty.
Well, some weeds are pretty andyou don't have to pull'em if you
don't want to, but...
I think it depends.
The buttercup you have to pull.
I don't care if you like thatone.
But they are pretty.
They are pretty, but they arebad even...
But they're not toxic.
Horses and cow won't even eatthem because Really?
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Yeah.
So if your field gets, buttercupin it, you're screwed.
Oh, wow.
What about clover?
No, they like clover and rabbitslike clover.
And you know what else likesclover Bees.
I thought you were gonna sayleprechauns.
No.
O.
O.
Only four.
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Only four clovers.
What's that?
Four leaf clovers.
Only four leaf clovers.
But did you know that five leafclovers are are more rare?
Five.
Yeah.
I've never heard of that.
Yeah.
And no one got time for fourleaf clovers anymore.
Now you're looking for five leafclovers.
Everybody's always trying to oneup each other.
Okay.
Actually, the only time I'vebeen stung by a bee was it was a
bumblebee that was on clover.
(26:14):
Yeah.
And I was walking from the pooland I stepped on the bee and he
stung me on the toe.
Yeah.
And I started crying because Iknew the bee was gonna die.
That was what upset me more thanthe fact.
That it, it stung me, and that'sthe only time I've ever been
stung.
Really?
Yeah.
I, I think I was like seven.
(26:34):
Interesting.
Yeah.
The same.
That's, that's the same story asmy little brother.
We were, you know, back in theday when you had family, it, it
was like the griswolds, right?
You get in the car, you go like,check things out with your
family.
And, we were doing like a civilwar thing, so we were in, not
like southeast, so theCarolinas, Georgia, Virginia,
(26:57):
all that stuff.
And we were checking out allthis Civil War things and there
was like a cemetery.
Because I like cemeteries cuzI'm, you know, I'm not goth, but
I play one on TV and and yeah,it was during the day, so you
know, the bees were out, theclover, it was really nice and
pretty.
And then all of a sudden it's ablood curdling, screaming,
crying little brother.
(27:18):
Mm-hmm.
Because he had flip flops on andhe stepped on a bee.
So there's a different kind oftoxicity in it's not like
poison, but it's calledpancreatitis.
And their pancreas just goesinto overdrive and it's usually
caused by fatty foods.
So a lot of fat.
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Some dogs can't even tolerate,you know, like duck because it's
a fattier Right.
Food.
We don't give our puppies duckfor that very reason.
Yeah, no.
And they'll get diarrhea and,and dogs have to be hospitalized
for pancreatitis all the time.
Mm-hmm.
Changing food a lot can do that.
Yeah.
Bacon, you know, you give yourdog a little bit of bacon, but
if they have a sensitivity, youknow, and a penchance for this,
(28:03):
then.
You know, definitely not good,especially if they got into a
whole bunch of bacon, Right.
Because there's so much fat andbacon.
So you have to really thinkabout the fat content and the
food.
Too much fat is what causespancreatitis.
Yeah.
Or even, you know, cheese, like(mm-hmm) and you think about
like a little cube of cheese toa dog(yeah) you know, like a
(28:23):
little dog is like eating agiant hamburger or something.
Oh yeah.
So even just a tiny bit ofcheese can be a problem.
And then, things like avocadothat's high in fat that can
cause pancreatitis.
Yeah.
What the one that surprised mewas white bread.
Well, that's more of a yeast,right?
(28:43):
Uhhuh.
It's the, the whole, it is notnecessarily pancreatitis as much
as, the rising of the, theswelling, I guess.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it can be a blockage,like because of the, how the
yeast, the, what's the word I'mlooking for?
Expands.
Yeah.
It rises.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That actually happened to me asa kid.
My, my dad taught me how to makelike, fried dough.
(29:04):
Yeah.
And I like to pick at the doughas it was, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Rising and stuff.
Yeah.
And I ate so much that mystomach like blew up.
Right.
And then the thing is, is thatwith dogs, When their stomach,
they get a condition, likeespecially the large barrel
chested dogs, you know, greatDanes especially.
Mm-hmm.
But even labs or whatever.
But besides just the, theexpansion in the belly, what can
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happen besides beyond the bloatper se, because that is a
condition bloat is torsion- andthat is when the stomach bloats
and twists.
And then you're looking at alife-threatening condition,
because the stomach's twisted,you're gonna have necrosis or,
or dying(mm-hmm) of, intestines,the colon, et cetera.
(29:52):
Because of the torsion, and thatcan be fatal.
Dogs can die from bloat andtorsion.
Another thing about yeast isthat it ferments right.
Mm.
And what happens when withfermentation?
They get drunk?
Oh yeah.
Alcohol poisoning.
Oh, that's a bad one.
(30:13):
Uhhuh, you know, we had a dog atour daycare that, you know, we
recognized the signs of Bloatand rushed her to the er, and
that was what saved her life.
Oh, yeah.
And from that point on, youknow, we, we had in every room,
a sheet that, you know, showedthe signs of bloat because it's
not something that everybodywould know.
Mm-hmm.
(30:33):
You know, we had a lot ofexperience and we recognized it.
Right.
And it was a great Dane.
Mm-hmm.
And then we recently have one ofour foster babies who was
adopted, so he's a rockstar now,and he's a Mastiff, and his mom
recognized bloat and rushed himto the ER and saved him.
Yeah.
And that poor dog like he isjust a hot mess of a dog.
(30:55):
And you know what she, she, shegets lemons.
She is.
She's, she does.
But you know what, like.
She lives for the dogs.
Yes.
She's the best dog mom.
Yes.
I feel like we can safely saythat.
Yeah.
Rachel, we love you.
Yeah.
I don't know anyone that wouldgo to the lengths she has and
you know, she's lucky she can.
Yeah.
But that dog has had a lot ofproblems.
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Right.
And then she already has thefirst one that we, she already
knew going in, had a lot ofproblems with the seizures, so,
yeah.
Yeah.
I I think they're, I thinkthey're like Porsches now, like
Yeah.
She could have got a Porsche forboth of those dogs.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Maybe a Lamborghini.
Yeah.
No, we're getting up there.
A Lear jet.
(31:39):
So one thing that can be reallycritical to teach your dog is a
drop it or leave it command.
Because if they are getting intosomething and you actually catch
them, then if you have taughtthem that command, then perhaps
they won't.
You know, eat the whatevermedication that you dropped or
(mm-hmm) or something alongthose lines.
(32:00):
The other day I was getting,satori's medication.
She takes a heart medication.
Mm-hmm.
And sometimes my hands are justclumsy.
I don't know, I probably havesomething wrong with me.
But, I dropped the entire bottleof her pills and she inhales
things like a vacuum cleaner.
And so I was like, no, no, no,no, no, no.
And then I'm like, leave it,leave it, leave it, leave it.
(32:22):
And she just was like, Lookingat me and she's like, okay,
and...
What's your deal?
Crazy lady.
And I picked her up and Ibrought her, you know, into
another room and, and there wasanother dog that I had to shoo
away and my husband was helpingme, but those pills went all
over the floor.
And I mean, I don't know whatwould happen if the dogs ate all
(32:43):
of her heart pills.
I mean, it would not be good.
No.
But knowing that, you know, as,even as food motivated as she is
that leave it command saved herfrom overdosing, those pills,
before I could even, you know,really clean them up.
Right.
So we really have to wrap thisup.
Uhhuh.
I'm Jme.
(33:03):
I'm Pate.
And this is Rescue Shit.
Rock on.
Rescue on.
Hi, I'm Jme.
And I'm Pate.
And we're from Motley Zoo AnimalRescue, and this is our podcast
Rescue Shit.
Today we're gonna talk aboutsome different household common
things that, can endanger yourdog.
Right.
And not just household things,but things that you don't think
might be poisonous that areactually very harmful for your
(00:24):
dog.
Like even water.
Innocuous things that youwouldn't even think could be a
danger.
Exactly.
We had a litter of dogs like amother and puppies.
We named them after the TVseries, the Hacks, and a little
puppy, DJ Vance.
Very sweet girl.
(00:44):
She loved to kiss you.
She made out with Mattie Healyfrom the 1975.
I have pictures to prove it.
No, seriously, she did.
But she actually is ourexperience with water toxicity.
I don't remember exactly whathappened but I remember she
literally almost died.
Yeah, she did.
And it was from drinking toomuch water.
(01:07):
It wasn't playing with water,which is what you normally hear
of the water toxicity happening.
She actually drank too muchwater when she was out running
around and playing with hersister.
Both of'em drank a lot of water,but she.
I don't know, like if, if shedrank twice as much as her
(01:27):
sister or whatever, because youturn around and both of'em had
swollen bellies because theydrank too much.
We've been doing rescue for 14years now.
Yeah.
And this is the very first timethat this has happened.
And when we saw her, she acted alittle drunk and she wasn't her
(01:48):
normal, bouncy, playful self,and she was staggering a little
bit and then she became quitelethargic.
And almost had seizure-likeactivity.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
You had her.
Yes.
So, you know, you knew what wasgoing on and I remember you
telling me about it, but, yeah,we were really, really shocked
(02:10):
when they finally figured itout.
Didn't we think like liver shuntor something like that?
Yeah, it was very Just out ofthe blue, you know, cuz we'd had
her for a while.
She was about three months oldby then I think.
and so it was quite confusingcuz like with the liver shunt,
she should have shown moresymptoms, been a bit more
symptomatic and, I didn't reallyknow what was going on, but I
(02:33):
knew something bad washappening.
She was vomiting, she lostcontrol of her bladder on me,
and that's why I thought, oh no,she's having seizure activity.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I called theER of course, because that's
what you do.
And it was kind of funny cuzthey were quite apologetic and
they were like, did she get intoany pot?
(02:57):
And I was like, yeah, no, thatdidn't happen at all.
And they're like, it's okay ifit did.
But I was like, dude, no, no.
And I was like, we do have CBDfor the dogs, but it is not in
the house.
And there's nothing wrong withpot.
No but you guys are prettystraight edge here.
It's just not in your, in yourwheelhouse.
(03:18):
Gary's very straight edge.
However, after my cancerdiagnosis, he did visit a pot
store and I think boughthundreds of dollars worth of
items for me to deal with my,like, my nausea and pain and
everything.
So, he's no longer superstraight edge, but so, but we
don't normally have pot in thehouse because, you know, I don't
(03:38):
have cancer or side effectsanymore.
Right?
Yeah.
It's just not your thing.
Right?
Yeah.
Whatever.
I'll have some gummies every nowand then, it's fine, but
whatever.
That's besides the point.
But they were very, it was veryfunny because they didn't wanna
offend me.
Yeah.
And when I was, when I toldthem, no, it's not a possibility
whatsoever, they were stilllike, well, it really does sound
(04:00):
like it's, pot toxicity, whichis kind of common.
But regardless, so like, youknow, you need to bring her in.
I was like, well, yeah, I'mbringing her in.
But they were still in the backof their heads(mm-hmm) thinking
that she got into someone'sstash, right?
Mm-hmm.
Until they saw her.
And when we got there to the er,before they took her into the
(04:20):
back of the room, I told them, Iwas like, she's gonna vomit.
Because you could look at theirface, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They do that vomit smile.
I'm like, dude, she's gonnavomit.
No one pays attention to me andI don't know why.
And that's why I get to say Itold you so all the time.
But so she leans over Gary'sshoulder like a huge gush and
(04:42):
I'm like, wow, that's a lot ofwater.
And I looked at'em and I'm like,see?
And Gary got to wear that one asa, he got punished for their,
their lack of, interest inlistening to you.
Right?
Yeah.
Cuz it was right in the middleof the lobby, so they had to do
cleanup.
Right.
So I was trying to like, helpthem avoid that, but
nonetheless.
Mm-hmm.
(05:03):
And then she actually did stayovernight and her symptoms were
very much like a toxic effect.
And they finally diagnosed withall of her blood work,
stabilizing her, everything likethat, that she suffered from
water toxicity.
Well, they found out in theblood work there was definitely
no pot in her system.
(05:25):
And you were telling the truth.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, did they justrule everything else out or like
what specifically led them tothe water diagnosis?
There was some, now I gottaresearch this.
There was something in the bloodwork mm-hmm.
That was off.
Like diluted.
Yes.
Or something.
(05:45):
Mm-hmm.
That did show them most likelythat it was the water.
Mm-hmm.
And the fact that she wasvomiting water all over the
place.
Yeah.
That's really weird and scaryand not common.
No.
But this is why it's reallyimportant(yeah) to make sure
your dogs have water, access towater all the time so they don't
gorge when they get water.
And when they're playing, Inoticed at the daycare, going to
(06:08):
the water bucket is kind of likea thing to do.
It's not necessarily thatthey're thirsty.
Mm-hmm.
It's like they play, play, play,and then they're like, oh, let's
go over by the water bucket.
And it's like, it's just anotheroutlet for them.
Mm-hmm.
And so, you know, you would needto watch that and make sure that
no one's super gorgingthemselves.
Right.
And then like you said, if youkeep the water from them,
(06:30):
they're going to gorge more.
Yeah.
Definitely make sure thatthere's water available and if
your dog does seem to bedrinking a lot(mm-hmm) chances
are it's more likely a kidneyproblem or something like that.
Or diabetes.
Yeah.
Which you need to get taken careof.
But probably unlikely thatthey're gonna have toxicity from
it because their body'sprocessing it differently.
Mm-hmm.
(06:50):
So, yeah.
But it does happen.
And she was actually fine thenext day, after they stabilized
her.
That's good.
Yeah.
So here's something weird that Idon't think a lot of people
would know, but it's actually arelatively common problem.
And it's a potato chip bag.
Yes.
Or you know, cracker bag or anyof those kinds of things because
(07:15):
the dog goes through thegarbage, they pull something
like that out, it gets stuck ontheir head and then they
suffocate.
Right.
Because as they breathe, the bagcloses in on'em.
Yeah.
It sucks in and they can't getit off.
And we actually do know someonewhose dog died that way.
Yeah.
And they were terriblydevastated.
They were coming to us for a newdog and they told us about what
(07:37):
happened and you know, obviouslywe didn't hold that against
them.
That was not a neglectful thing.
That's a weird, weird, unusualthing, but, but it is actually
somewhat common.
Yeah.
And it's not that weird andunusual, but it's something that
people don't think about.
Yeah.
But I mean, we even have aflyer...
Yes.
That we hand out(mm-hmm) when wedo adoptions about it, because
(07:59):
it's such an unknown thing, butit, it could really happen at
any time.
So it's really important thatthe garbage is secured and, or
your, you know, dog is in acrate or, you know, you cut
those bags up so that they can'tstick their head in them and not
get it off.
Right.
There are milk cartons now the,the, the, they're not, they're
(08:21):
paper.
The paper.
Mm-hmm.
Like wax paper cartons.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So true story.
I had basenjis right?
So, until my, my last one passedaway and, and Gary said, no more
Basenjis.
And I love Basenjis, I love themso much.
But anyway, So in Florida it'svery common for people to have
pools, right?
(08:42):
And you don't think about thingslike that.
And, accidents happen in poolsall the time, especially the in
ground pools and which is whythe insurance companies want you
to have the fencing or, orwhatnot.
But anyway, so true story:.
a Basenji got her head.
Because she got in the garbage.
(09:03):
She wasn't crated.
They went to work and they hadtheir door open to the pool area
and their pool was not safelyenclosed or, or whatnot.
And she got her head in a milkcarton and fell in the pool.
Oh, no.
So, while a milk carton is notas dangerous, per se, as a chip
(09:29):
bag where you don't need a poolto, to help expedite that.
Yeah.
You really have to think aboutwhat you throw in your garbage,
right?
And how to secure your garbage.
It's kind of like, you know, theplastic, yeah.
Rings.
The six pack rings that you cutup so that the birds and, and
other animals don't eat them.
I cut them into tiny bits.
(09:49):
Exactly.
I'm always cutting the, theplastic rings as well.
But you have to think aboutthings that you put in your
garbage that your dog can getinto and that your dog can
possibly get injured by, whichis, you know, the chip bag can
be fatal, but even, you know, ifyou get a milk carton and they
run into the wall, they run onthe furniture, fall off the
(10:11):
furniture.
Mm-hmm.
You could have, I mean,hopefully no damage, but
depending on the size of thedog, a leg injury or even a back
injury if they fall.
Yeah.
And start like flailing andtweaking.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, that is one I've neverheard before, but I believe that
it is, scary.
(10:31):
So a lot of people also mightnot know that grapes are really
not good for your dog and it'sbecause whatever toxin is in the
skin, I think it is, itactually, it's fat soluble, so
it stays in their body andbuilds up over time.
So if you give them grapes, toooften, I mean, you shouldn't do
it at all.
Mm-hmm.
(10:51):
But it's not like you give themthe grape, they metabolize it
and you're done.
Every grape you give them is.
Leading up to a bigger andbigger problem, Right.
The thing with the grapes andreasons, and they don't know why
really, but they, can causerapid kidney failure.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then sometimes you canforget cuz you're like, you've
(11:11):
got some trail mix.
Well, hopefully you're notgiving them the chocolate from
the trail mix.
But I mean, cookies haveraisins.
I mean, keep'em away from yourRaisin bran alright because
raisins are even more toxic thanthe grapes because they're
almost like concentrated grapes.
Mm-hmm.
And some dogs, even just a fewgrapes, can cause kidney failure
(11:37):
and have them be hospitalized.
Raisins, you meant a fewraisins.
What did I say?
Grapes?
Yes.
Raisins.
Raisins.
Even a couple raisins.
Right, cuz it's concentratedgrapes.
So you mentioned chocolatebefore.
That's probably one that a lotof people know about, right?
But what exactly happens and whyis that one a big one?
(11:57):
Well, so it's not all chocolate,right?
It depends on the content ofthe.
I don't even...
The cacao.
I was gonna say, am I gonna evensay it right?
The ca The kawakawa.
Kaka.
But how kind of word is that?
I know, I know.
But that's what you're doing.
(12:17):
That's, that's where yourchocolate comes from.
Is from this, is it a bean?
Yes.
I don't even know.
Maybe I should, I really need toresearch before we talk, talk
about stuff.
Well, it's not good for anydogs, but some dogs it's like
people being allergic to beestings.
You know, nobody likes beingstung and anyone can go into
anaphylactic shock if you getstung enough.
(12:38):
But some people are superallergic to bees and the same
thing is for chocolate.
Dogs can be super, superallergic and super reactive of
it.
And other dogs, you know, caneat a whole box of chocolate and
be completely fine other thansome diarrhea usually.
Right.
But it really depends on thatcontent of the cacao because you
can have milk chocolate.
(12:59):
Very low cacao content.
Right?
But then you've got...
The super dark chocolates.
Yeah.
Good thing.
I don't like dark chocolate,but...
So this actually sadly happenedto one of the first few dogs
that we adopted out.
It was a chocolate Lab, sadly,ironically.
And they had had a campfire thenight before and the kids left
(13:20):
the, s'more stuff out and thedog went down to the fire pit.
And ate Hershey's, which is milkchocolate.
Yeah.
And you know, I mean, therecouldn't have been that much
that it ate, but, but the dogtotally died.
Hmm.
Well, I mean, was it a, a bar ofit?
I don't know how much.
(13:41):
Yeah.
But, but I remember thinking itseemed like a small amount for a
lab to eat(mm-hmm) and die from.
Well, I mean, but they alsohave.
Like dark chocolate Hershey, andlike, did the Hershey have
almonds in it?
Like...
Yeah.
I don't, I don't think so, but,they just called me to tell me.
Mm-hmm.
Because they, they felt so badand they were upset and they
(14:03):
hadn't had'em for too longeither, but...
Oh, that's horrible.
But it was, yeah, it was reallyawful.
And obviously we were so sad forthem.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, but like I said, youreally have to look at your
content, right?
Because, the cacao the higher,the percentage, the higher
content of the cacao is thehigher the toxicity level, but
(14:24):
the probability(mm-hmm) of afatality from your chocolate is
lessened by the percentage ofthat cacao.
You know what's interesting isthat my grandmother used to give
her dogs, peanut m and ms as atreat every day, That's milk
chocolate.
Every day.
(14:44):
Damn.
And one time she had some in hersweater pocket and he smelled
them.
And so he, he sucked and suckedand sucked on the sweater pocket
until he sucked all thechocolate and candy out.
And all that was left in herpocket was the peanuts.
But yeah, so when I was olderand I found out that chocolate
is bad for dogs(mm-hmm) I waslike, holy shit.
(15:05):
We were giving him that everyday.
Yeah.
And another thing that can causeissues with dogs and, and
sometimes requirehospitalization are onions and
garlic and, you know, and leaks,which is part of the onion
family.
So I, I guess stay away from anyoniony.
Oniony.
(15:26):
That would be be chives too.
I don't know.
No, they're onions.
Are they?
Yeah.
Okay.
So the thing is, is like onionscan actually damage or like
injure, for lack of a betterword, like red blood cells and
cause hemolytic anemia and thatis going to you know, require
hospitalization.
Mm-hmm.
Do you know what the symptoms ofthat are?
(15:47):
No.
Okay.
Yeah, that was a dumb questionto ask without having some
research back us up.
So another thing that peoplereally might not know about is
xylitol, and that is theartificial sweetener, I should
say.
Mm-hmm.
That is in, sugarless gum.
A lot of Sugarless candies, alot of diabetic products, and it
(16:09):
is just super toxic for them.
It's actually in your toothpasteas well.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a lot of things that you maynot even think that you would
put xylitol in.
Like, seriously, do we reallyneed...
Sweet toothpaste?
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, just add mint right?
Whatever.
I don't understand why you havexylitol in your toothpaste, but
(16:32):
nonetheless, a lot of toothpastehas xylitol in it.
So you really have to look atyour ingredients of things that
you have, because xylitol willdrop their blood sugar so
quickly and it can be fatal.
Yeah.
And even peanut butter, a lot ofpeople don't think about peanut
butter.
Like, seriously, why do you needxylitol on your peanut butter?
Right?
(16:52):
Yeah.
It's weird that most peanutbutters on the shelf are not
just peanuts and oil and salt.
Right.
You have to look really hard tofind one that is in almost every
peanut butter has some kind ofsugar in it.
Mm-hmm.
And palm oil, by the way.
Which, which I try and avoid.
Yeah.
Cause we like orangutans.
Yes.
Yes.
it's in a lot of things that youdon't think about and thankfully
(17:14):
there's kind of a, a more of anawareness coming about with this
one.
And it's becoming more common totalk about, to know about.
But you know, you just put yourpurse down and your dog goes in
your purse and gets your gumout.
Mm-hmm.
And it, that could be enough tokill them.
We recently had someone that weknow.
And it wasn't an adopter of oursbecause I always tell the
(17:37):
adopters about xylitol.
But someone we know Easter,Easter candy.
Oh yeah.
And, um, and normally when youthink of Easter candy,
chocolate, but I don't know whatcandy had xylitol on it, but it
did.
And, that dog was rushed to theer.
That dog fortunately survived.
And the person was shocked.
(17:57):
She never heard of it.
And what I said to her on herInstagram, because she was just
telling everyone, she's like, ohmy God, I didn't even know this.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so she was trying to spreadawareness to her friends, right?
And so I said, Another thing isthat when you look at the
ingredients, you may not seexylitol because now they're
(18:21):
calling xylitol birch sugar.
Oh, and that's great.
Yes.
B I R C H Sugar.
That is xylitol.
Oh, why, why would they do that?
Because they wanna make it soundmore natural?
I guess.
But yeah, to the detriment ofmany, many animals.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know that part, sothat's good to know.
(18:41):
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I like real sugars in mything, so like, even my soda, I
prefer the mountain dew withreal sugar as opposed to the
corn syrup.
Yeah.
As opposed to zero or whatever.
Oh, I, yeah.
I can't do that.
Gimme my sugar.
Yeah, sugar.
Sugar, that's a good song.
I remember, a lot of people getcoffee grounds or cocoa shells
(19:03):
(Mm) for their mulch.
Mm.
And that can actually be toxicfor your dog.
So the coffee and caffeine.
Yeah.
So make sure that you're notgetting those things, if you
have dogs, because if theydecide to eat them, that, that
could be really dangerous.
Oh yeah.
That caffeine.
Well, and especially cuz a lotof people like the dark color.
(19:24):
Oh yeah.
But you have to get wood that'sdyed like that color instead of
the coffee or the cocoa.
Right.
And then, well, I mean the, thecoffee grounds, like people, the
reason why people use it is cuzit, it's nutrient rich.
Yeah.
For the soil.
But if you're doing it aroundyour dogs, I mean, the, the
caffeine causes heartarrhythmias and seizures, and
(19:45):
it's just not worth it.
No.
So sometimes plants, houseplants, even outdoor plants, can
be toxic for dogs and cats.
I know we focus mostly on dogsbut typically because.
Dogs are more scavengers and,you know, likely to get in the
garbage, likely to ingestobstructions.
But the plants are somethingthat, you know, you never know
(20:09):
what they're gonna get into.
And, I think probably one of themost common ones everybody knows
of is at Christmas thepoinsettias.
Yes.
Obviously I think that one's apretty common understanding, but
the amaryllis.
People give amaryllis aspresents for, Christmas too
and...
That's a really good song byShinedown by the way.
(20:29):
And then, The Easter lilies(mm-hmm) that Asiatic Lily.
The Easter Lilly can be toxic.
Right.
And that's toxic to both catsand dogs.
Yeah.
And, and the problem, probablyis bigger with cats because cats
often eat plants.
The indoor ones especially.
Yeah.
I mean, Tut is always eatingsome spider plant or something,
(20:51):
and, and then he throws up, he,he eats it every time and then
he throws up every time.
And I mean, thankfully it's notlike toxic toxic, but...
Right.
I don't know why he wants to eatit when it makes him throw up.
Why do dogs eat grass and vomit?
I don't know.
Yeah.
One of life's mysteries?
Meatball, obsessively kind ofeats grass when he's on it.
(21:12):
Mm-hmm.
So we don't have a lot of grassand mostly he's on concrete at
my house.
Right.
So on the patio, in the backwhere they go, and then on the
balcony it's concrete.
Axl's making a mess.
Oh, paper.
He really wants, he wants to gooutside.
He can hear Gary outside doingtraining, and so he's crying
(21:35):
about it.
He's about to throw on a, a fullon toddler temper tantrum.
Mm-hmm.
In a minute.
Well, and then call lilies canbe dangerous.
And, you know, probably thechances of your dog eating.
Those kinds of things outsideare pretty, pretty low.
And then, rhododendrons,azaleas.
That's outside.
(21:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
They can be a problem.
And then...
Fox Glove.
Yeah, Fox Glove is beautiful andit's really not something that,
you know, most dogs would eat,but it is deadly to anyone.
People.
It's how they make nitroglycerinfor, the people that have heart
attacks, so it really can messyou up.
(22:17):
But they're so pretty and I love'em.
Yeah.
I mean, they're wild here.
Mm-hmm.
And as long as you're, you know,pretty careful, then that should
be fine.
Right.
so English ivy actually is, so,so more urban plants are gonna
be like your English ivy, yourhorse chest nuts, your English
(22:38):
laurel, and the rhododenronsthat you, that you already
talked about.
But like, if you're hiking, youknow, you have to worry about
like the Fox glove Yeah.
And then Lily of the valley, wehave that as well.
The toxic effects range fromtypical stomach upset.
(22:59):
To, you know, more like seriousand life threatening conditions
like seizures instead of justthe, the stomach upset of nausea
and vomiting, which, you know,is, is never good.
No.
But at least it's not fatal.
You know, obviously mushrooms inthe yard.
Yeah.
We don't know what he got into.
Mm-hmm.
But my cat, Biki started actinglike his eyes were rolling back
(23:23):
in his head.
And all we could think is maybesomehow, like he got a piece of
mushroom or mm-hmm.
Like maybe we even stepped on itand brought it in the house or
something like that.
And I'm sure like, like you, thevet probably thought it was
drugs or something.
Actually I'm fairly confidentthey did because it was at like
midnight.
(23:43):
Mm-hmm.
And you know, Bryan and I arepunk rock looking and so I'm
sure they judged us and thoughtit was drugs.
Right.
But I got judged just by myvoice cuz I was on the phone.
But by the time we got to thevet, he started recovering but
he was falling over.
Mm-hmm.
And eyes rolling in his head andI've never seen anything like
it.
And by the time we got to thevet, He had recovered.
(24:05):
And so I, I don't know what hegot into, but he wasn't like a
plant eater.
Like Tut is.
Right.
And, Sago Palm is another indoorone.
Or you know, a tropical one ifyou live out in Florida or
whatever.
Right.
Florida, like Florida, you heara lot about the Sego palms.
And, and that is a huge issueand so many people have it and
(24:29):
don't even realize it.
Yeah.
I mean, around here you, youknow, you have it cuz you have
to have it in your house...
They're really cool lookingthough.
I really are.
I really like them.
Mm-hmm.
I've had plants in my house thatwould be toxic if my animals ate
them, but you know, they,they're not near them or, you
know, they don't eat them.
And so, I mean, you, you have tobe careful.
(24:50):
But...
Yeah, I just.
I don't have a green thumb, so,my dogs are in no danger from
indoor plants.
Yeah.
Well you're becoming more of a,of a botanist, living out here
now.
Well, yeah.
You're learning.
Well, yeah, cuz I'm like, isthat, is that, is that a weed?
Do I leave it?
(25:11):
I'm like, it's so pretty.
That's a weed pull it..
I'm like, ah, really?
Because it's kinda pretty.
Well, some weeds are pretty andyou don't have to pull'em if you
don't want to, but...
I think it depends.
The buttercup you have to pull.
I don't care if you like thatone.
But they are pretty.
They are pretty, but they arebad even...
But they're not toxic.
Horses and cow won't even eatthem because Really?
(25:32):
Yeah.
So if your field gets, buttercupin it, you're screwed.
Oh, wow.
What about clover?
No, they like clover and rabbitslike clover.
And you know what else likesclover Bees.
I thought you were gonna sayleprechauns.
No.
O.
O.
Only four.
(25:52):
Only four clovers.
What's that?
Four leaf clovers.
Only four leaf clovers.
But did you know that five leafclovers are are more rare?
Five.
Yeah.
I've never heard of that.
Yeah.
And no one got time for fourleaf clovers anymore.
Now you're looking for five leafclovers.
Everybody's always trying to oneup each other.
Okay.
Actually, the only time I'vebeen stung by a bee was it was a
bumblebee that was on clover.
(26:14):
Yeah.
And I was walking from the pooland I stepped on the bee and he
stung me on the toe.
Yeah.
And I started crying because Iknew the bee was gonna die.
That was what upset me more thanthe fact.
That it, it stung me, and that'sthe only time I've ever been
stung.
Really?
Yeah.
I, I think I was like seven.
(26:34):
Interesting.
Yeah.
The same.
That's, that's the same story asmy little brother.
We were, you know, back in theday when you had family, it, it
was like the griswolds, right?
You get in the car, you go like,check things out with your
family.
And, we were doing like a civilwar thing, so we were in, not
like southeast, so theCarolinas, Georgia, Virginia,
(26:57):
all that stuff.
And we were checking out allthis Civil War things and there
was like a cemetery.
Because I like cemeteries cuzI'm, you know, I'm not goth, but
I play one on TV and and yeah,it was during the day, so you
know, the bees were out, theclover, it was really nice and
pretty.
And then all of a sudden it's ablood curdling, screaming,
crying little brother.
(27:18):
Mm-hmm.
Because he had flip flops on andhe stepped on a bee.
So there's a different kind oftoxicity in it's not like
poison, but it's calledpancreatitis.
And their pancreas just goesinto overdrive and it's usually
caused by fatty foods.
So a lot of fat.
(27:39):
Some dogs can't even tolerate,you know, like duck because it's
a fattier Right.
Food.
We don't give our puppies duckfor that very reason.
Yeah, no.
And they'll get diarrhea and,and dogs have to be hospitalized
for pancreatitis all the time.
Mm-hmm.
Changing food a lot can do that.
Yeah.
Bacon, you know, you give yourdog a little bit of bacon, but
if they have a sensitivity, youknow, and a penchance for this,
(28:03):
then.
You know, definitely not good,especially if they got into a
whole bunch of bacon, Right.
Because there's so much fat andbacon.
So you have to really thinkabout the fat content and the
food.
Too much fat is what causespancreatitis.
Yeah.
Or even, you know, cheese, like(mm-hmm) and you think about
like a little cube of cheese toa dog(yeah) you know, like a
(28:23):
little dog is like eating agiant hamburger or something.
Oh yeah.
So even just a tiny bit ofcheese can be a problem.
And then, things like avocadothat's high in fat that can
cause pancreatitis.
Yeah.
What the one that surprised mewas white bread.
Well, that's more of a yeast,right?
(28:43):
Uhhuh.
It's the, the whole, it is notnecessarily pancreatitis as much
as, the rising of the, theswelling, I guess.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it can be a blockage,like because of the, how the
yeast, the, what's the word I'mlooking for?
Expands.
Yeah.
It rises.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That actually happened to me asa kid.
My, my dad taught me how to makelike, fried dough.
(29:04):
Yeah.
And I like to pick at the doughas it was, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Rising and stuff.
Yeah.
And I ate so much that mystomach like blew up.
Right.
And then the thing is, is thatwith dogs, When their stomach,
they get a condition, likeespecially the large barrel
chested dogs, you know, greatDanes especially.
Mm-hmm.
But even labs or whatever.
But besides just the, theexpansion in the belly, what can
(29:29):
happen besides beyond the bloatper se, because that is a
condition bloat is torsion- andthat is when the stomach bloats
and twists.
And then you're looking at alife-threatening condition,
because the stomach's twisted,you're gonna have necrosis or,
or dying(mm-hmm) of, intestines,the colon, et cetera.
(29:52):
Because of the torsion, and thatcan be fatal.
Dogs can die from bloat andtorsion.
Another thing about yeast isthat it ferments right.
Mm.
And what happens when withfermentation?
They get drunk?
Oh yeah.
Alcohol poisoning.
Oh, that's a bad one.
(30:13):
Uhhuh, you know, we had a dog atour daycare that, you know, we
recognized the signs of Bloatand rushed her to the er, and
that was what saved her life.
Oh, yeah.
And from that point on, youknow, we, we had in every room,
a sheet that, you know, showedthe signs of bloat because it's
not something that everybodywould know.
Mm-hmm.
(30:33):
You know, we had a lot ofexperience and we recognized it.
Right.
And it was a great Dane.
Mm-hmm.
And then we recently have one ofour foster babies who was
adopted, so he's a rockstar now,and he's a Mastiff, and his mom
recognized bloat and rushed himto the ER and saved him.
Yeah.
And that poor dog like he isjust a hot mess of a dog.
(30:55):
And you know what she, she, shegets lemons.
She is.
She's, she does.
But you know what, like.
She lives for the dogs.
Yes.
She's the best dog mom.
Yes.
I feel like we can safely saythat.
Yeah.
Rachel, we love you.
Yeah.
I don't know anyone that wouldgo to the lengths she has and
you know, she's lucky she can.
Yeah.
But that dog has had a lot ofproblems.
(31:16):
Right.
And then she already has thefirst one that we, she already
knew going in, had a lot ofproblems with the seizures, so,
yeah.
Yeah.
I I think they're, I thinkthey're like Porsches now, like
Yeah.
She could have got a Porsche forboth of those dogs.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Maybe a Lamborghini.
Yeah.
No, we're getting up there.
A Lear jet.
(31:39):
So one thing that can be reallycritical to teach your dog is a
drop it or leave it command.
Because if they are getting intosomething and you actually catch
them, then if you have taughtthem that command, then perhaps
they won't.
You know, eat the whatevermedication that you dropped or
(mm-hmm) or something alongthose lines.
(32:00):
The other day I was getting,satori's medication.
She takes a heart medication.
Mm-hmm.
And sometimes my hands are justclumsy.
I don't know, I probably havesomething wrong with me.
But, I dropped the entire bottleof her pills and she inhales
things like a vacuum cleaner.
And so I was like, no, no, no,no, no, no.
And then I'm like, leave it,leave it, leave it, leave it.
(32:22):
And she just was like, Lookingat me and she's like, okay,
and...
What's your deal?
Crazy lady.
And I picked her up and Ibrought her, you know, into
another room and, and there wasanother dog that I had to shoo
away and my husband was helpingme, but those pills went all
over the floor.
And I mean, I don't know whatwould happen if the dogs ate all
(32:43):
of her heart pills.
I mean, it would not be good.
No.
But knowing that, you know, as,even as food motivated as she is
that leave it command saved herfrom overdosing, those pills,
before I could even, you know,really clean them up.
Right.
So we really have to wrap thisup.
Uhhuh.
I'm Jme.
(33:03):
I'm Pate.
And this is Rescue Shit.
Rock on.
Rescue on.
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