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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome home, friends
.
I'm Tanya Long, and this isReset where purpose meets
possibility.
Each week, we shareconversations with thought
leaders, innovators and thedreamers and doers who are
reshaping the future of work,technology, longevity and
purpose.
Whether you're navigating AI'simpact, reimagining your career
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or searching for deeper meaning,you're in the right place.
So settle in, open your mindand let's explore what happens
when purpose meets possibility.
All right, hello, and it's time.
Welcome everyone to Reset withTanya here at KPCR 92.9 FM.
And today's guest and we werejust laughing about this, so I'm
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going to massacre it is OpheliaFerrer.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And Ophelia is.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
She is apparently
French because we started to
roll those R's, so Ophelia is amajor entrepreneur.
She has such a history ofresets because, of course, our
show is focused on pivots andtransitions and how people grow
in life and you've had so manyopportunities for growth.
You started as an admin at asalon.
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That's right.
Now you have your own salon andyou're creating like methods of
deployment in the beautyindustry and it's just amazing,
so I'm so happy to have you here.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Thank you for having
me.
I'm really excited about thisopportunity.
It sounds like a lot of fun.
Well, you're going to be a lotof fun.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
We've been hanging
out a little before the show and
the things that she has tooffer are amazing, but I really
want to drill in on some of yourhistory.
Yeah, now were you?
Were you born in france or did?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
no, actually.
So my french last name isbecause my husband is french and
we live there, um, but I am notfrench.
I love france, clearly.
I might you know, growing up inthe south, in paris, in the
summers with my father.
He was a school teacher, hewent to Stanford University, so
we had summers off and Paris washis favorite city.
So I kind of knew a little bitabout this and when I met my
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husband it was very natural thatwe would end up together.
Yeah, him being.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
French.
Yeah, that's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
And do you have any children?
I have three children, three.
I knew I saw some littles onInstagram, but I didn't know if
those were nieces, and thoselittles are my grandchildren.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Those are my
grandchildren?
Yes, all right.
This is why she's in the beautyindustry.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
If you're looking at
her on video, you have
grandchildren.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's amazing, I
started young and the little one
started young too.
So it just worked out that waystarted young and the little one
started young too.
So it just it just worked outthat way.
But you know, we I think thenew, you know generation clearly
is we are living a littlelonger and we're looking younger
as we're getting older andwe've.
You know, I come from thegeneration of a preventative.
My mother was clearly ahead ofher game at when I was little,
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doing facial yoga in the car,facial yoga facial yoga.
I thought I've heard of goatyoga, but not facial yoga
amazing we would sit at the, atthe stop signs or at the, you
know the car, the lights and itwas like doing the funniest
things.
I'd be like mom stop, you'reweird, because she was just so
ahead of it.
Sunscreen, it was all of that.
So I it's been a part of mywellness and beauty.
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I love it.
Yeah, second generationwellness and beauty for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Excellent, wonderful.
Well, what are you working onright now?
That's exciting, you what's new?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
What's new?
Well, you know, new isdefinitely coming back to the
Silicon Valley to redo businessall over again.
That's really new.
Yeah, business all over again,that's really new.
Um.
Having a new passion behind it,that's fun, because when
there's motive as to the why, Ithink we have a more more fun
pressure.
If you will, you're doing itwith passion, you know, and
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that's that's definitely adifferent way of doing business.
This time around right, comingback after COVID Um, but right
now, business this time aroundright, coming back after COVID
Um, but right now, right now,it's my wellness center I used
to be an ambassador for med spasfor many years.
And this time I get to say wow,I get to be the founder of my
new, you know fun thing which isum wellness and taking it into
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the inside like make us betteron the inside.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I love this because
you know the inside like make us
better on the inside.
I love this because you knowmany women, myself included,
have, over the years, haddifferent experiences with with
facials and all the different.
I'm not going to go into thelist of things that I've had
done, but it was never reallyabout wellness, it was just
about better skin you know, sothat I look more youthful with
all the men that I work withRight.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And um, for you to be
focused on.
You said the inside.
I think you know what createdthat for you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sure, I well.
I mean, I think, as we getolder, we definitely want to
look and feel, look as young aswe feel.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Right, and so some of
us are like well, I feel really
young on the inside, and so howdo we, how do we biohack
ourselves to really, um, youknow, make it so that we're also
feeling that way too?
And how are you going to feelthat way?
Well, you feel that way becauseyou're taking care of yourself
clearly.
And when you take care ofyourself, you know it's the
non-processed foods, it's whatyou're putting into your body.
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It's um and now with these newbiohacks such as Ivy cocktails
where there's NAD that you canput into your own body to create
more momentum to stay younger.
Longevity essentially.
And we want to feel as good aswe think, and so some of us have
it's all here in the head.
So if you're savvy and you'rewitty and you know we see this
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in our great grandparentssometimes it's all here in the
head.
So if you're savvy and you'rewitty and you know we see this
in our great-grandparents,sometimes it's like wow, their
head is really there.
They might not look it.
So how do we look it?
How do we feel it?
How do we continue thislongevity?
where we're really taking careof ourselves.
So when you tie it all togetherand you can have it all, that's
where I'm at it's where beautymeets wellness and when you can
really kind of collectively justget it all together so it works
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for you, then you're reallycreating something beautiful for
that one individual andbiohacking what essentially each
individual needs.
You know, maybe you have ittogether with your facials, but
then what's missing on theinside?
Maybe it's that just knowingthat you're going to take that
one to two hours aside to dobusiness with someone like
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myself, where we just know we'regiving you what you need, is it
a timeout?
Is it better skincare?
Is it an Ivy cocktail to makeyou essentially feel like you
need more energy.
Right Give you.
Give you what you need, andthat's where I feel we can
really tailor your needs.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I love it, I am.
I'm thinking about I used to bein a rhythm pre-COVID,
pre-COVID.
I mean, that's the way we tendto look at things this
generation looks at thingspre-COVID, during COVID and
post-COVID and pre-COVID I wasin a routine.
A couple of times a month Iwould go to the Chinese foot
massage place because it's it'skind of, it's easy, it's, you
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know, it's not a full, it's nota full luxury massage, but the
but the massages you can getthere are functional, so so I
could allow myself to be on arhythm of doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I feel like it's that
time out it is and it would
Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It would reset me.
I'd go in like six o'clock orso and it would just really like
set me for the week on calmness, on just breathing easier,
right, Right.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Then COVID Nobody was
having anybody rub on anybody
during COVID right, right orthey were sneaking into my
backyard to get their facialtreatment Exactly Through the
back door into my new salon sparoom.
During COVID we had a woman whoI live.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I live in a high rise
condo and we had a woman who
came and did pedicures foreverybody, like every two weeks
she'd have 10 people and we'dall be out on patios sipping
wine.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We had to function,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But I was at a tech
conference.
I was at the step the stepconference in San Francisco a
couple of weeks ago and they hada massage table there as a just
a side thing.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, and I was like,
oh, I have missed this.
What a great idea.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I realized and he was
, he was really calming and
soothing and it made me go backto why I committed to that
practice.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yes, during COVID and
I, we get away from what we
know works for us.
Either something happened,covid happened, we get out of
our rhythm, we've gotten out ofour rhythm.
And what I love about my newwellness center is also wellness
can be very scary.
For some people it's almostlike what?
What?
What does that mean?
Like we all know how to book apedicure.
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You just said we know how tobook a massage, we know how to
book a facial.
But when it comes to b12 shotsand an ivy cocktail and maybe
you need some assistance inweight loss I don't know.
The point is it can be scary.
It's a scary place to go.
Well, who do I call it now?
I have to call a doctor.
Now I have to book anappointment, another doctor
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appointment.
It sounds so annoying.
It's another added thing to do.
I'm going to add something.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's intimidating.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's intimidating.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
For sure.
I think of this, like I've donea thousand Orange Theory
classes, and I remember thefirst day I went in and all I
could think about was all thosefit, amazing women, you know, in
full sprints on the treadmills.
And here I was, you know, and,and I was so intimidated to even
start and what I recognized amonth in people are clearly
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paying attention to me.
They're not ignoring me, butnobody was paying attention to
my numbers.
Nobody's watching you, nobody'ssaying she's walking, you know,
on the treads while they're.
You know, brandy Chastain, thesoccer player, love her.
She was next to me on atreadmill one day and said nice
job, tanya.
And I was like I'm going to die.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I love that and
everybody just supported
everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Nobody was saying oh
you know, she barely got my
orange on today, shy away fromit, because they assume they're
going to walk in and everyone'sgoing to be quaffed and smoothed
and and they're not, and Idon't think anybody's paying
attention.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
A million times
that's my nobody's paying
attention.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
They're just happy
you're here.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, the first.
The first thing when you saidthat was you know I hear um, oh,
I don't want you to see menaked.
You know when we we we are, we,we, we were just named the
number one lymphatic bodydrainage sculpting from silicon
valley magazine.
So because I bring on all mymodalities from internationally
and I'm like we're not payingattention to that honestly, we
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just want to get you to be wherewe know we can optimize your.
You know levels of water and andget the draining, get the
toxins out get the lymphaticsystem working.
We, we want to help you.
We're not coming from a placeof looking at you know what you
think we might be looking atyour pudgy stomach, we could
care less.
We want to see how good andflat we can get it.
That like that's what we werefocused on.
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Um, and the second thing iswhen we were just talking about
intimidating.
I love that too, because that'swhat I've created.
I've created a wellness loungethat embodies the heart of a,
like a, a mocktail bar, if youwill.
So when you walk in, you feellike you're walking into this
cool lounge and it fits it.
You know, everything'scompliant, it's a, we have a
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doctor's office, everything.
But I want you to feelcomfortable, like.
I want you to walk in with yourgirlfriend, with your husband,
with your dates.
Come in, get you know, getchecked out by the doctor and
maybe you're you qualify foryour IV cocktail.
Maybe it's a wellness cocktail,maybe it's a reset cocktail.
You know, maybe you drank toomuch over the weekend and we're
here to get you ready for theweek.
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It's very inviting and verycasual setting, but we meet all
the criteria that we'd need toin the med spa and it's just fun
.
I want to introduce thiswellness lounge as a fun
environment so that it's notintimidating.
Make it fun and I bridge thegap between clinical and
intimidating and make itinviting and still meet your
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needs in the medical industry sothat we can give you what you
need and not feel intimidated.
Have fun, let's have fun withwellness, why not?
We need to have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It is part you what
you need, and not feel
intimidated.
Have fun.
Let's have fun with wellness,why not?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We need to have fun
with it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It is part of what we
need, yeah, and I think it's a
commitment to self-care, rightSelf-care is?
They used to call them quarterwords.
It's all the buzzwords we usein the office and they called
them quarter words because incorporate world, every time you
used one, you had to put theproverbial quarter in the jar to
pay the jar.
It's like a swear jar.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did you guys have
those growing up in France?
I had a swear jar.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
In the South we had
swear jars, so when somebody
said something that they weren'tsupposed to, in front of the
kids you had to drop a quarterin.
Well, same thing for thesecorporate buzzwords Self-care,
self-care is one I like selfcare.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Mine is love yourself
better.
I love my term.
I came up with this when Ifirst started my business
because I fell off the map too.
You know, I started to do thewhole like well, what happens
now?
After COVID, you know duringCOVID, I closed my first
business.
I kind of lost my identity, ifyou will, what am I going?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
to do next.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, and, and then I
realized will, what am I going
to do?
We all go through phases ofthem.
Yeah, and, and then I realizedyou know what, it's time to love
myself again and love yourselfso much that you put your life
mask on first before anyone elseis.
So you know, self-care yes, ishas been used a lot in the
corporate world, like what doyou do to take care of yourself?
Mine is how about we loveourselves so much that we take
care of ourselves just a littlebit more?
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And take that like, what can Ido for myself today to make
myself put the life mask onfirst so I can save everyone
else too?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I see this in women
so much that they won't invest
in themselves to take care ofthemselves because they need to
buy baseball cleats for littleJohnny, or they're saving for
Miss Susie's wedding, or they'realways.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
They're always saving
their assets for other people
and not for themselves yeah,it's kind of like when's the
right time to have a baby?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
never it's like you
know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's that too, it's
you have to take care of
yourself, and if you don't, youdo end up being the one in the
back burner, and then your kidsdon't get to have the best mommy
, your husband doesn't get tohave the best wife because
you're not thriving at your youknow level.
It's the whole reset Like wetalked about.
We need to reset every singleday, whether it's meditation,
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prayer, um, you know, takingthat time out to wash your face
properly, whatever it is to puton those high heels, don't save
that outfit.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, I love that
too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Don't save that
outfit for the special occasion.
Put it on right, have fun withyour life.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I agree, yeah, I
agree, and frankly, you model
that.
You model that, let's have fun,let's be vibrant, and I think
it inspires other people to try.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Because people need
role models out in front of them
to say that looks like where Iwant to be yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I, I like that,
I like I, I love inspiring.
My passion is also getting uhwomen to realize that they can
thrive in the beauty industryand honestly, um, you know, have
a, have a lifestyle, and alsoum, what's the word I'm looking
for?
Kind of like support themselvesdoing what they love, and it's
a mindset.
It is a mindset, you know.
Have a, have a lifestyle andalso, um, what's the word I'm
looking for?
Kind of like support themselvesdoing what they love, and it's
a mindset.
It is a mindset, you know thebeauty industry is one where we
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can um you can live off of ityou know, and some women don't
know, that and if you have apassion for it, go for it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, so I love it.
I do want to.
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So you are here on pirate catradio and on reset with tanya
with ophelia I you know, I, myhusband's going to kill me he is
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.
I took college French.
I don't remember anything.
You've got to use it, or youdefinitely lose it, you do.
I want to step back about 40years.
Okay, I want to step backbecause I read in your stuff
that you said that your love ofbeauty started in childhood,
playing with makeup andimagining fairy tales oh, tell
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me about that.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
remember your
childhood, how beauty became
like a focus for you.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It sounds like very
early on it is early on and
that's why, um, my mother is oneof the most influential people
for me.
She was a model in mexico and,um, her normal was definitely
like put moisturizer on.
And I was little.
So when I had a sleepover and Iwas staying the night at
someone else's you knowgirlfriend's house and I said
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where's your moisturizer?
And they would go what, what'sthat?
And I go what do you mean?
You don't wear moisturizer.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I mean for me.
I was not older, were you, whenyou were having these
conversations?
10 years old I?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
was little, I mean, I
was 10 years old.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I was little, I love
it, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
so I knew how to have
a skincare regimen.
You know, that was very muchwhen Clinique was the only
skincare that you could go get.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We all started with
Clinique.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Clinique and Lancome.
It was like that was the normalto be in the Macy's and know
that she was picking up hermoisturizer.
I think she might still use thesame moisturizer.
Um, it's good product, it's ayeah and so.
So that started on very early,you know pageants was a part of
my upbringing my mother had mein pageants when I was little.
It was all of that so it wasalways being poised to sitting
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upright.
You know being sitting straight.
I was a ballerina so it was allof these like um, very girly,
yeah, you know how to eat properwith my father and and so, um,
that was a part of my upbringing.
It's just very, very much intune with the, with the beauty.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And then you pursued
it into your adult career.
I I don't know how, I don'tknow what age you were when you
started, but you didn't start asa salon receptionist.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So yes, I was, as a
teenager, Teenager okay.
I started answering phone callsfor another salon owner here in
Los Gatos and Full Circle.
That is exactly where mybusiness is now, in the same
location.
No, yeah, no, that's awesome.
It is such a cool story.
Oh, that is Full Circle.
I was sitting there answeringphone calls and so to just make
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this full circle so many yearslater, when I said, if I'm going
to do this again, let's do itright.
So I actually, you know, it'sthose God moments.
I don't know how else toexplain it, other than that's
where I ended up and that'swhere I'm at, and I definitely
feel I'll be there for a hotminute for sure.
I call them God wings.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Heck for a hot minute
, for sure, I call them Godwinks
Heck.
Yeah, that's cool.
Godwinks, yes, exactly.
Um, so you had a mentor namedMonica Yep.
Was she in those early?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
days, absolutely.
She was um definitely the onewho showed me how to do business
.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
How did she?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
shape your vision.
You know she was, uh she.
We come from the industry ofhustle for it.
The bus isn't going to drop offa busload of clients in front
of your doorstep, for you tohave a plethora of clients and
all of a sudden you have anincome in the beauty industry.
That's not how it works.
Unless you're a Sephora, unlessyou're a big name brand like
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that in which they pay youhourly.
That's a different scope.
In which they pay you hourly,that's a different scope.
We are entrepreneurs of ourkind, which means, if you're
good at your talent and you're agood hairdresser, a good
facialist, a good anythingmakeup artist, how do you do
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that?
You create a referral system,you create a way to get them
engaged to come to you, and soyou do have to have an
entrepreneurial brain, and shehad it.
You know, and it started outwith you know, can you go pass
out business cards for me?
And I did.
I helped her pass out businesscards and little by slow, right
that happens.
One client likes their hair.
They tell two more, they tellthree more.
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And that's how a good businessstarts in the beauty industry.
When you want to create a namefor yourself and luckily I have
a good business starts in thebeauty industry when you want to
create a name for yourself, andluckily I have a good
reputation with my firstbusiness, which was Oswa Salon
next to Forbes Mill.
I had quite a following, whichwas kind of fun.
So to come back from COVID, Ihad a little bit of that
established already.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Nice People that were
happy you were open again.
They were, they were.
I love it.
And talk about losing it all,even my client list was lost
during covid, I had to like they, I had to like and we had a lot
of people move out of the bayarea oh yeah, that too, so so
you, you recreated you do youstart all over.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You do feel like
you're starting all over, and
that happened love, love it.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
We talked about your
childhood and being a ballerina
and a princess and you know,asking other girls to put
moisturizer on.
But as you aged your view onbeauty, the pressure to be,
beautiful had to change.
Yeah, and I read and you know,people who know me understand
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that I'm a plus-sized woman andI read that you were a
plus-sized model and I wasfascinated by that, because
anybody who looks at OpheliaFerrer wouldn't think of her as
plus-sized.
But you were a plus-sized model.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, and everything.
You know when.
When doors open, they open.
And I was told by my fatherthat when opportunities come
about, you know, go for themRight and and if.
And then a wonderful mentor ofmine as well.
We all need those mentors.
I love mentors because they'rewise and they have years before
you and it's definitely, I think, wise of us when you're growing
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your business, to seek wisecounsel.
Don't try to sometimes do italone.
But this person, I asked him.
I said I don't know if I'msupposed to do this.
And he said well, I would say,if the door opens, walk through
it, and if it's not supposed tohappen, you ask God and you say
shut it.
Shut it if it's not supposed tohappen.
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And so what happened was I wasdoing makeup.
I was doing, I was a nationalmakeup artist.
In my twenties, I had just hadmy third daughter, so I was
considered plus size.
I was wearing a size, you know,12, 14, something like that,
working on my baby weight andI'm five, nine and I doing some
modeling.
In my teenage years I had, Ihad a little background, right,
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I was going to be a famous modelwhen I was 18 and I was going
to move to.
LA and God had other plans forme.
I got pregnant with my daughter.
Anyway, I go to.
I'm in a situation where thegirl said I need a makeup artist
and I don't do plus size models.
It's a plus size model, Wouldyou like to go?
And I said sure.
So I took the job.
I showed up in this photo shootand the photographer said have
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you ever thought about plus sizemodeling?
And I said well, I used to do x, y and z.
She says they need Latina plussize models and.
I thought I did see somethingabout the plus size industry was
growing at the time quickly, bythe way, so she snapped a few
photos.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
the next day I was
signed with Gap, levi's, macy's,
nordstrom's, neiman's, I mean Icould name all of them, and you
were doing this at a time whenplus size wasn't mainstream.
It was one of only a few peoplewho were doing this work.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, I was the
trailblazer.
I was the only Latina plus sizehere in the Bay Area.
Every major city had theirtoken model.
I was the token model here.
So when we would get hired forthese runway shows, there was a
white woman, a black woman, aLatina and a petite Asian that's
how they categorized us andthen they would have 12 size,
(24:09):
let's say two, fours right.
Your mainstream models?
Yes, and then they had the othercategory, which was plus size
and petite so there was three ofus the white girl, the black
girl, the latina and the petiteum, and we did this for 10 years
so for 10 years I was asuccessful plus size model yeah,
amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, so you talk
about I call them the three B's
when I kept seeing them in your,in your content beauty,
boldness and bravery.
Oh, I like that.
And that's you and and I thinkthat that was you when you were,
when you were doing that work,where you were in only Right.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, and it was.
It was wild, you know, going tothese go-sees where you are.
We talked a little bit aboutintimidation and being
intimidated.
I would show up to these veryhigh fashion go-sees, and
go-sees are when they you go,kind of show off who you are in
front of the people who arehiring you.
Okay, so it's go-see as invisual go-see.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's not a, it's not
a Japanese phrase Like you know.
It's not a, it's not a Japanesephrase, like you know.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So you would, you
would go to a go see and a go
see means that you're not beingpaid for it.
They're literally.
This is being judged by how youlook.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because it's the modeling
industry, it's so they look atyou.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
There's no interview,
they don't want to see how
smart you are.
That it's none of that.
It's literally looking at youand so you show up, and I would
show up to these go-sees withthese clearly very good looking
guys modeling for Calvin Klein,right, hot guys.
And then the women looking likeVictoria's secret models.
And then I walk in and it'slike I'm a 12, 14.
(25:46):
And yes, I will say I know I'mpleasing to the eye, but back
then, as a plus size, you'rethick.
Right, I was proportionate, Iwas beautiful at that size too.
But you walk in going like whatthe heck am I doing?
I heard the heckling, I heardthe guys.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You know what is she
doing here.
I want a fatty I heard thewords that were spoken to me.
It was not nice.
There's a fundamentaldifference in being in a crowd
of size twos and being size 12,14.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, so you have to
have a tough skin, and the funny
part about that, though, isthese girls and guys were
gunning for a runway.
You know, a go-see right, Oneor two jobs to book for the.
Levi's campaign.
Now, the pickings were smallfor my size right, so I didn't
have a lot of competition.
(26:38):
What that meant was I wasnailing a lot of the jobs and
you were also freer to beyourself yeah, because the
competition.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You weren't forced
into a standard that all the
size teams, yeah, so as so as amodel as a working model.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I was making more
money than them and they were
making fun of me and that waspretty weird and funny and very,
what is that called?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Surreal.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Surreal, yeah, you
know surreal, kind of like well,
okay, and people knew my name,you know, oh, ophelia is coming.
Great, we're going to have agreat show.
Like I had a good coolreputation like that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And I think people
start to get hired on reputation
too.
You when, when everyone has anaesthetic for lack of a better
word that is pleasing andbeautiful, then as a as a hiring
leader, I make choices based onwho I want to work with.
Who's going to bring?
Positive energy, becausethey're all beautiful and
there's just, you know, there'sthis much difference.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There's just barely
any difference, and let's talk
about that beauty on the outsideand then you have somebody who
comes with a crappy attitudeguess what?
You immediately look ugly.
And haven't we heard that somany times?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
we have you can be so
drop dead gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But if your soul is
ugly, you just gave off ugly all
over the place, I mean, andit's not pretty Right, I mean so
.
So, yes, I did, I did have thatelement to me and then then,
then I got to be 34.
That's the funny part.
I just realized I was going toretire when the girl that I
showed up to the go see atLevi's was 17 years old and the
mom looked at me and she goeshow old are you, sweetie?
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you, sweetie, and I was like, ohLord, I could be your
daughter's mom.
But I remember that was when Istarted to realize I had more
competition and it was time forme to just kind of back out
gracefully.
And I did.
And still to this day I come incontact with some people who
used to hire me in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That's wonderful,
though.
That's wonderful because thecommunities we find out are all
connected.
You know, we we have to buildstrong, positive relationships,
because those people are goingto be around in your future in
some way, and I think yours is adirect, if you will,
generational thing to ascend tonew places, of making a
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difference in that world.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I believe that, yes,
that there are relationships
that we develop and somehow inthe future they do come make
full circles.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know that I do
believe that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, never burn a
bridge.
That's another one.
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know, one thing
is having boundaries, but
another one is don't burnbridges you know, that's
important to me did goingthrough those years of being the
only being the size 14 and ayou know fifth with 50 size twos
.
Did that inform how you builtyour beauty business, how you
built beauty bar?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh, uh, let's think I
think what it did do for me was
create a self-esteem.
That, um, gave me betterself-esteem, right?
I clearly I feeling good inyour skin.
Fake it till you make it.
Did I do those things?
I don't know.
I just know that I felt good, Ifelt like it was where I was
(29:40):
supposed to be, and um, and sowhat it did for me was make me
definitely feel like I wasdefeating the odds maybe, or
know that I'm hardworking andthat I know I'm okay with being
judged and maybe okay with it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
But did it affect how
you serve your clients?
How did uh, how you set up toreceive people?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, how I receive
people always with love.
Never judge a book by its cover, right?
Um, yeah, I mean to some extent.
Yes, that's a.
That's a little bit of atougher one, as I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You're getting my
brain to think about that, but
that's a great question becauseI think you've had lots of
experiences at at the far edgeof success true, true success
using your beauty, and that'svery personal.
But now you're helping otherscome into their beauty, and
often from a position of, oh youknow, I can't get this baby fat
(30:36):
off, or oh, I've always beenheavy or oh, you know whatever
people's stories are, but you'reserving other people to help
them get to where they want togo.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, thank you for
navigating that.
I think you're absolutely right.
You know, when I see a woman,women will come in for sure, and
I've gotten so many walks oflife.
You know I'm going through adivorce.
I want to look good again.
You know, or I don't know,what's going on with my body,
Like what the heck?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
is going on.
Hello, welcome to your 50s.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
What is this?
Yeah, and tapping into thiswhole lymphatic drainage and
getting your toxins, working foryour toxin removal and as we
get older and navigating and Ican look at a woman now because
I've done so many faces andworked with so many women I can
look at someone and say you'resuffering from this, Um, when I
started to get into, we're goingto have that conversation when
(31:28):
this is over.
but you said you look at womenand you can tell like what's
ailing them and what the crazypart, too, when I decided to
lose weight after being a plussize model.
Um a good friend of mine, whowas also a model she said
Ophelia, you're losing weightreally fast.
I decided to lose weightbecause I had a back injury and
I was in chronic pain.
Understood With that said, Isaid you know I'll do anything
(31:50):
it takes.
I was juicy.
I was all kinds of stuff, so Ifinally got it all off in my
skin In my 30s now.
A friend said you need to dolymphatic drainage toxin
removals.
It'll help with the fascia andskin tightening.
And I thought, okay, let me,let me look into this more.
So I did and I just started todo it.
And fascia for the skin is veryimportant, keeping it nice and
(32:12):
tight as we get older.
Are we dealing with waterimbalance in the in the hormonal
system?
in the body If your lymphaticsystem isn't working for you,
and then let's not ignore itfights diseases.
Hello, like the most importantthing that we really want to
talk about, which is it fightsdiseases.
But talk about fashion the skin.
Skin tightening calms yournervous system so many things
(32:36):
that our own bodies do for us.
We don't have to go pay amillion services out there when
clearly it's just one thing Getyour lymphatic system working
for you.
You are biohacking your naturalsystem and you would be amazed
at how many issues you couldprobably fix just by doing that.
Yeah, okay, that's.
(32:56):
One of my biggest takeawaysright now is the lymphatic
system.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I think that's very
scientifically interesting.
Yes, I want to talk more aboutthat, but first it's the bottom
of the hour and time for a notso quick station ID.
You are on, you're listening toPirate Cat Radio and we are
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(33:23):
Gatos.
I usually start these showstalking about how blue the sky
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Los Gatos.
Also, we are KMRT LP 101.9 FMout of Santa Cruz, and then I've
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(33:46):
So a big shout out to thepeople in Portland who are
listening to this today andwe're so happy to have you on
board with the music and theconversations that we bring you
here at Pirate Cat.
Yes, so you're also listeningto Reset with Tanya, with
Ophelia Ferrer.
I'm going to meet your husbandone day for coffee and I'm going
(34:07):
to be like Ferrer.
Yeah, because I can't roll myR's.
I'm a Tennessee tobaccofarmer's daughter.
I never could roll my R's.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Tennessee, awesome.
So yeah, that's my background.
I'm born and raised in SiliconValley.
I've seen it all change.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Very few people are
native locals.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Isn't that wild, I
know.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Everybody here is
from somewhere else and that's
part of what I love so muchabout the Bay Area.
Yeah, it's great we weretalking as we went into the
station ID about what influencedhow you think about beauty and
you being a plus-size model andthen going through intentional
shifts in your life.
And then going throughintentional shifts in your life,
you've been really open inpublic forums about overcoming
(34:47):
trauma, addiction, self-doubt.
So how did those struggleseither impact or change your
mission when you got ready to?
Because I think you're onmission-oriented work, you're
mission-driven with what you do,thank you.
How did those struggles bringyou into a mission of service
(35:09):
for your clients?
Yeah, I mean, these are verydeep, you know heartfelt moments
for me that you've not had achance to express.
No, most likely.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Not right now, but
you know the idea of not only
overcoming a business and Idon't want to say failing but
you know it was taken awayduring COVID.
Yeah, and then coming back todo business again.
You know, that is one of what Ibelieve is true
entrepreneurship when not onlydo you do it once, but you do it
(35:42):
again and I'm proving that Ican do it again and that is, to
my thoughts, very resilient.
I've been told, and you know,when you go for something,
there's nothing that's going toget in the way right, and you
are driven and you have laserfocus to make sure that you can
do it again, because there'spassion behind it, because
(36:03):
there's passion behind it whenit comes to addiction and
alcohol.
I started drinking wheneverything grieving it was grief
.
I lost my father, I lost mybusiness, I moved to a whole new
country, I had no friends, Imean the list can go on and on.
I put my dogs down, I had totake care of my mother who had
dementia all in a small bubbleof one year and that could break
(36:27):
anybody, you know.
And after talking to people whohave heard my story, they go
wow, that's a lot.
And if you go, you know one ofthose things, one of those
things can set a human beingback by three years to get it
together again.
I had to overcome all of that inone year and it did take me a
(36:49):
couple of years, but duringthose couple of years I decided
to let the grief take hold of meand that is a scary place to be
for anybody, because you canget depressed, you can do
horrible things and mine waspicking up a bottle to be my
(37:09):
best friend.
I decided to drink and when Idrank I real you don't realize
that it's now gotten a hold ofyou, and getting a hold of you
can take you to scary places andnot.
You know and that's where I'mcoming from and we'll talk about
it on a very surface level butit took.
It took some help, you know,and I don't deny the fact that I
(37:30):
had to get help.
And I got help because once forsome of us, when you're on that
hamster hamster wheel, youcan't get off.
It's not hard to jump off thathamster wheel and for me it's a
hamster wheel that um was hardto control.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It was going too fast
.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And then I was like
you know, and it and it took a
village and luckily I havefamily and a husband and I had
resources.
Some people don't, and that'sthe part that pulls at me and
even just talking about it rightnow, I get goosebumps because I
feel without a shadow of adoubt that my job now is to help
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people and let them know thatthey have resources and that I
can be one to help, and also tolet women know that you're not
alone.
When you're not alone, and evenif it's just one person
listening that says how can youhelp me?
I can direct you, I'll directyou, but I also want people to
know that you might have thebest husband, you might have
(38:29):
this, you might be sufferingfrom postpartum.
You're not alone.
There are other people justlike you.
I had it all, tanya.
I had it all, and it can all goaway very quickly.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think that's part
of our challenge in life is that
it?
Does ebb and flow and it's notalways up and to the right.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
People assume, when
it's not going up and to the
right, something's wrong.
Yeah, something's not wrong.
You're just growing a differentway.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You're growing a
different way and we have
choices, that's the other thing.
We have the power of choice.
You know for me that, um, youknow, if we want to call it that
rock bottom, we can call itthat on the show.
It's picking up a phone, youknow, and really picking up a
phone and saying let me call afriend, Yep, let me call someone
, and but it does take thatinitial.
(39:17):
You know, God wink, maybe it'sa thought in the head that says
you know you should call someoneand there's a choice.
You can choose not to, andusually the choice to, not to
means you're going to digyourself a little deeper into a
black hole.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Usually.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah.
But if that choice you make is,you know what, I'm going to
pick up that phone, as heavy asit is, to call a best friend, to
call someone who said theycould help me.
Maybe it's to call the radiostation in that minute, I don't
know.
But all I know is there areresources and that one phone
call can make the difference togetting better, whether it's
depression, postpartum addiction, maybe making a better career
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choice.
You know what do I do?
You can't walk through it ifyou don't sometimes have help
and doing it alone.
I can say this most failurescome because they try to do it
alone, whether it's business,whether it's help, any of it
Doing it alone.
I honestly, you know, when Ithink about I'll just say it
(40:21):
Statistically they say it'spretty close to zero doing it
alone.
So, it takes a village, andmaybe you don't need a village,
maybe you just need a friend.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
This is not this kind
of radio program.
So I'm going to be gentle, yes,but you've mentioned God three
or four times.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes, your
relationship with God, you know,
I was born Catholic you know Iwent to.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I was um, born
Catholic.
You know my dad.
I went to a private.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Catholic school for
my whole, you know upbringing.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So it was a part of
my life and I love it.
Yeah, was there a defining Godmoment when you got that?
God wink to build somethingbigger in service of others.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Definitely I've had
those moments for sure.
You know, when I was a teenager.
I remember toying with badchoices, as we do when you're a
teenager.
Yeah, you know, yeah, gettinginto some situations where
you're like that's probably notthe wisest thing.
You know that you're notsupposed to do it, ophelia, but
you're going to.
And so those little moments ofthe little, the eight good angel
(41:24):
and the bad angel, right, thoseare God winks for sure is it
your intuition?
You know we all have thatinside of us.
I believe, mm-hmm, where youknow your moral compass.
That's right.
And that moral compass, whetheryou know who God is, whether
you were brought up in aCatholic school, whether you
just are a human being and thathuman being, whether you're an
(41:46):
atheist or not, there's alwaysthat thing inside of us that
tells us it's wrong and thatwrong choice is a choice.
So for me that's God.
You know, it lives inside of us, it's a higher power, some
people call it the universe.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
You know there's
always Buddha there.
Spirit source, spirit source,and I'm less affected by the
label you choose yeah somepeople are still.
I come from tennessee, buckleof the bible, belt, right.
Some people are triggered ifit's anything, but yeah, god,
the father, son, holy ghost, andthat's as far as it goes.
But spirit source all thosethings, I think, the fact that
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people pay attention tosomething bigger than themselves
that creates a right.
That creates a sense of awe.
Yeah About.
You know, we may be big people,but we are a tiny little speck
in creation.
That's how I like to look at it.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I mean, you just said
something that makes me want to
have fun with it.
We're just a bunch of big kidsplaying on a big playground with
each other and trying to playnice you know, and when you talk
about business, you knowburning a bridge or you know
clawing your way to the top.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, that language
does not appeal to me.
You know, all that stuff is soscary and it's like let's just
stay away from that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know, did I
create the blueprint?
Or did someone mock me or copymy business motto?
Because it's now flattering tome, because I have to look at it
, though there's so many ways,but at the end of the day, I
know that I want to be ofservice to humanity, be of
service to you.
Know, I feel like I get oneshot at life and I want to make
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the best of it.
I didn't go through thesethings for no reason and I
clearly didn't come back fromwhat I just came back from for
no reason.
I could just say I'm any otherperson, but if God wants to put
me on this platform to be atestimony, then let's go, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Good for you.
Good for you.
I hate that we didn't have moretime today.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Ooh, are we done.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
We are close to done.
The last thing I do is a quicksegment of lightning round
questions.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Okay, cause.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I think those are fun
and that has been some of the
best ways for for an audience tolike hear snippets of things
that reveal the real you Okay.
Right so so I, so I love youknow, a five minute lightning
round.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
So we talked about
you doing the fairy tales and
makeup thing.
Well, what was your favoritefairy tale as a little girl, oh
my gosh fairy tales.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I you know,
cinderella, I love a pink dress
all right, was it a blue?
Dress.
Now I'm confused good, I think.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I think it was blue
there was a pink one and a
different one, the pink one?
I don't know, it doesn't matterthey were all my favorites.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I mean, my kids grew
up on watching too.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
It was just fun Good.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I always dressed my
little girls up like little
princesses.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh jeez, I'm sure you
did.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Sure, you did.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So what's the one
beauty product you can't live
without?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Oh, mascara, I need a
good eyelash.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
That was so quick.
I know she did not even take abreath.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
It did not even take
a breath.
It was just like mascara.
Okay, if I had to be on adeserted island, waterproof
mascara.
You are so entrepreneurial.
Yes, who inspires that?
Who inspires that?
Oh, you know, I um.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I hate to say it, but
I don't.
Maybe I don't know.
Oprah was cool, you know, I amon, I'm on the Oprah train.
I completely yes.
I mean she, she, yes you know,we all.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
We did get a little
bit far-fetched from like follow
your passion, because we allcan follow our passion and um,
but not everyone can make moneyin their passion.
But all I'm trying to say isshe kind of beat the odds in a
big way, being plus size being awoman who spoke her mind.
I mean there was a lot of thatand then just making a lot of
that and then just making a lotof money at it.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Wow, Like how
inspiring.
You know I think you chose agreat role model.
Yeah, Good.
What is your best self-careritual?
Self-care no, no no For a toughday.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
For a tough day
Self-care ritual.
Well, you know, honestly,sometimes it's sitting down and
breathing, literally breathingBox breathing.
Know, honestly, sometimes it'ssitting down and breathing,
literally breathing boxbreathing.
You know I like the diaphragmbreathing where it's breathe in
for two seconds, minimum twoseconds.
Hold it for two seconds andbreathe out.
Guarantee you never have I everheard someone say that they
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didn't take a few deep breathsand feel better.
Not feel better afterwards.
I do it in my facials, I do itin my lymphatic drainage, I do
it for myself when it's a momentof like God, that was rough, or
maybe I'm about to encounter areally crazy day, or a moment.
How about you take two deep,full breaths and I will
(46:22):
guarantee you you'll feel better.
That's a self-care must-have.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Okay, I love it.
I love it.
Who is the dream client thatyou would love to walk through
the doors?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
at Beauty Bar.
You know a dream client.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And you've already
used Oprah, so you can.
Oh, Taylor Tay-Tay.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
You know Tay-Tay, you
know who doesn't want a Beyonce
walking through their door.
I mean, you know that would befun.
A dream client, you know I have.
I I'm not too starstruck by toomany people, but I mean I would
just having that recognition orsomebody walking and saying, oh
, what a cool destinationboutique little salon spot that
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Los Gatos has, which is calledBeauté Bar.
How fun would that be to justget that recognition.
And that's what I am is adestination boutique.
You know I embodied what itfeels like to come into the
south of France and.
I.
Everything in there isdecorated like you are, so it's
really fun to walk in there.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
It's eye candy
everywhere yeah, I've got to
come.
I'm sure it's like pink andsparkly it it's actually it is.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
You got it, yeah that
you would think so it's
actually pop art, tattoos,sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Like Warhol.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Like it's got like
cigarette smoking, wonder
Woman's with like a nun in theback.
It's all art.
It's very cool.
Bloody lips, it's like pop art.
It's cool.
It's edgy.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
It's edgy, it's edgy
edgy.
Very black walls, not pinkprincesses it's edgy.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
No, okay, I took a
turn when I got to the dark side
.
No, I'm just kidding veryinteresting.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, so we still
need to talk about so much more.
Yeah, I, I'm gonna suggest, andwe'll play with this later yes,
but maybe we change chairs nexttime.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Ooh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Maybe you interview
me and we'll see how, what you
choose to talk about, because Ithink I think, as hosts, we do
reflect our lives and thequestions we ask, the things
that we focus on Definitely.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
So I think, it might
be interesting if we swap chairs
, that would be fun.
I will take you up on thatoffer, I think that would be.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I think that would be
great.
So we'll talk more about thatSounds good.
In the meantime, how can peoplesee you?
Get in touch with you?
Follow you on Instagram?
Yeah, um, what are the?
What are the channels wherepeople can experience the
feather hat method?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
My um.
My personal brand is Ophelia,underscore O-F-E-E.
That's O-F-E-E-F-E-E and that'smy time in Southern France.
O-f-e-e is my nickname, um, andthat is where I created the
Ophelia Ferrer method, which isum, my methods of skincare in a,
you know, in a, in a nutshell,um.
(49:01):
Also overcoming adversity andum.
You know, alcohol and addictionand all the things recovering
out loud.
These are my per.
This is my personal brand, andyou can find that on Instagram.
A YouTube channel is going tocome soon as well.
And then my business, where Ihave amazing women, like-minded
(49:22):
women, who have made a careerfor themselves in the beauty
industry that I helped toadvocate and create jobs for.
And I hope to franchise and allof that stuff with my beauté bar
, and that's the French concept,it's um, where you come in,
feel I want you, tanya, when youcome in, to feel that way, from
the expressos to, to the way wegreet you and just enjoy what
(49:45):
we have to serve you with.
And that is Beauté Bar andthat's B-E-A-U-T-E-B-A-R and
that is in Los Gatos and withthem I'm making it my flagship.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
So we're trying to
dial it in right now.
Yeah, we will include it in theshow notes.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Great.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, they heard you,
but they can also see and we'll
put your website in there.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
yeah, absolutely
wonderful excellent.
You have been an absolutedelight I look forward to
swapping tears, I think good, Ithink there's high energy and we
would have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yes, so is there
anything else you'd like to
leave the?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
show with.
I just want people to know thatthere is a place where you can
have it all.
Love yourself more every singleday, take time out at Beauty
Bar, and we would love to haveyou Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Wonderful.
This is very exciting, and wedo this thing at the end of the
show.
We do little hearts and sendthose out to our audience.
So thank you for being heretoday.
On Reset with Tanya, I have todo one more station ID before we
close off.
So you are listening to Resetwith Tanya, with Ophelia Fehrer
from beautiful Los Gatos andKPCR LP 92.9 FM, also from 101.9
(50:51):
FM, and that's KMRT LP, andthen our newest addition to the
station lineup, kvbelp 101.9.
No, I'm sorry, that's 91.9 outof Portland.
So delightful to have everyone.
We will see you same time nextweek.
Have a beautiful, beautiful day.
(51:12):
Thanks for joining us on Reset.
Remember, transformation is ajourney, not a destination.
So until next time, keepexploring what's possible.
I'm Tanya Long and this is home.
This is Reset.