December 26, 2025 • 34 mins
From crime and trauma scene cleanup to midnight dispatch and station kitchens, we gathered the most powerful lessons from a year of conversations with first responders, clinicians.
Here are the links for all the episodes:
Krista Gregg (E.188): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-188
Jessica Jamieson (E.192): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-192
Beth Salmo (E.204): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-204
Elizabeth Ecklund (E.207): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-207
Gordon Brewer (E.211): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-211
Bill Dwinnells (E.220): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-220
Deidre Gestrin (E.221): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-221
Adam Neff (E.222): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-222
Renae Mansfield (E.225): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-225
Amanda Rizoli (E.227): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-227
Blythe Landry (E.228): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-228
Stephanie Simpson (E.229): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-229
Lisa Trusas (E.231): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-231
Joe Rizzuti (E.233): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e-233
Justin Jacobs (E.235): https://
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SPEAKER_07 (00:01):
Welcome to Resilience Development and
Action with Steve Beesome.
This is the pumpkin's dedicatedto first responder mental
health, helping police, higher,EMS, dispenetors, and paramedics
create better growthenvironments for themselves and
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I won't look at notes.
I will look at who uh left notesand who left a nice video or a
combination of that, but I willnot look at anything and I'll
speak from the heart.
Let me start off with givingthanks.
I know this is the, and yes, Ican't pronounce THs, so yes, you
can laugh at it.
But I wanted to start off withsomething that's so important to
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me, and that is my editors andmy people who keep me.
I like to call them myproducers, directors, whatever
you want to call them, but theyreally help me with cutting out
the m-a and everything else thatI don't want in my episodes.
Let's start off with someonewho's been with me for over over
a couple of years now.
(02:43):
Her name is Chelsea.
Chelsea works for Steel TigerMedia.
So if you want an editor, goback, go to Steel Tiger Media,
and you can definitely getChelsea to work with you.
She does amazing work.
Chelsea has been a helpfulpresence in my life.
She is military.
She has listened to my episodes.
She has given me feedback.
And ultimately, I just respecther for so many other ways.
(03:06):
Even uh stuff that we recentlylike shared.
I have so much respect for herfor so many reasons.
And we're hopefully uh helpingeach other get to a couple of
goals that we have.
So wanted to put it out therefor that.
But from the bottom of my heart,Chelsea, thank you.
I know this is something you'llprobably want to edit out, ha ha
ha.
But thank you, Chelsea.
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Truly couldn't do this withoutyou.
The other person I want to addis someone who I started in
September or so working with herand um truly have enjoyed it.
And that's my other editor,director, producer, whatever you
want to call her, takes a goodcare of me and does um fantastic
editing, particularly on video,because she works for Milford TV
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and her name is DominiqueCiampa.
Love that name, by the way, andher French name first, and she's
traveled the world.
She is someone who has been verysupportive of my podcast, is
giving me a lot of feedback in agood way.
And everyone that's ever come toMilford TV will know, and we'll
talk about a few of them today,but they will tell you how much
that's pleasurable to them.
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So truly, truly uh appreciateyou, Dominique.
I look forward to continuing towork with you in the coming
year.
I can't wait to have I learned Iwould think that there's at
least two or three people I'mgonna have in studio that you're
gonna be taking care of.
So thank you for that.
But anyway, let's get on withthe episodes.
I put them in, I would like tosay in no particular order, but
(04:32):
I did put them in an order inthe sense that I went from the
oldest episode to the currentthe most current episode and who
did left a review.
So let's start off with someonethat I truly enjoy.
I'm gonna be on her podcast verysoon, and I hope she comes to my
podcast again because I trulyenjoyed our conversation.
Her name is Krista Gregg.
Krista has been very supportive.
(04:53):
She talked about her jobcleaning up, I don't even know
what to call them, scenes, uh,whether it's hoarding or what
have you.
She does a great job with that,but she talks about all the
difficulties she's seen.
She talks about it in herepisode, in episode 188.
So, which all of these episodeswill be linked in the show
notes, but I hear is the messagefrom Krista.
And thank you again, Krista.
SPEAKER_15 (05:14):
Earlier this year, I had an incredible time on Steve
Bison's podcast, all aboutresilience.
And I had a unique angle tobring to my episode when I spoke
with Steve, and it's still oneof my favorite, favorite podcast
interviews I've ever done.
And we talked a lot about thecrime and trauma scene cleaning
world and also exploring traumaand what trauma and how it's
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defined in our own lives andindividually.
So, in any case, I know Steve iscelebrating um another year in
podcasting.
He is such a pro in everythinghe does.
And um, I just wanted to tellhim congratulations.
And if you guys have notlistened to this podcast yet,
please do.
It is chock full of information,and I know I keep tuning in.
(06:01):
All right.
Thanks, Steve, for all you doand for everything.
SPEAKER_12 (06:05):
Next up is a personal friend of mine.
I know her dad significantlybetter than I know her, but it
doesn't mean I don't know her.
Her dad worked with me.
Um, he was a parole officer, andI love working with him.
But Jessica Jameson is someonewho's come on twice now and has
brought up so many good pointsabout you know mental health, uh
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first responder, taking care ofoneself and how that works.
Her episode was episode, as Idon't want to say mmm, because I
don't like doing that, but herepisode was 192.
Jess is just an amazing woman.
Love her, and here's hermessage, and thank you, Jess,
for your contribution.
SPEAKER_16 (06:46):
Hello, listeners.
My name is Jess Jamison, and I'man LMHC and trauma-informed
certified personal trainer.
And I've had the wonderfulopportunity of being on Steve's
podcast twice now.
Um, once in his very early daysas a host, and then later just
before his transition fromfinding your way to resilience
development and action.
We've talked about food trauma,disordered eating, and building
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a healthy relationship withmovement and body image.
My favorite thing about thispodcast is how real and
authentic Steve keeps it.
He and his guests explore reallyheavy topics such as trauma and
grief and the mental health offirst responders, but in a way
that feels hopeful, grounded,and human.
I love how every episode is areminder that healing isn't
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linear and that resiliencedoesn't mean doing it all alone.
SPEAKER_12 (07:36):
Number three is someone that I really enjoyed
talking to, Beth Salmo.
We just had a greatconversation.
She is quick-witted.
Um, we exchange regularly aboutdifferent things since then and
truly appreciate her.
I hope I can have her back onthe show sooner rather than
later, but Beth was veryinteresting.
And here's her message, andthank you, Beth, for episode
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204.
SPEAKER_04 (08:00):
Oh.
Hi there, Steve.
Beth Salmo here.
I'm a little nutty.
I like peanut butter andchocolate.
Congratulations on the massiveongoing success of your podcast.
I have the pleasure of being onepisode 204 with you.
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Your badge doesn't make youbulletproof.
We talked a lot about me as apsychotherapist, how I got into
working with first responders inmilitary and um resilience and
how it's really truly okay toask for help.
I would so excited to be on theepisode with you.
(08:43):
Would love to do another.
Um, wish you nothing but thebest in the future.
And I can't wait to continuecussing with you more, having
more fun and doing silly thingslike this.
Eating on a congratulationvideo.
So see you soon.
(09:05):
Bye.
SPEAKER_12 (09:06):
Next up is someone who is the last message that I
got, but I I can't tell you howmuch I enjoy our conversation.
She was someone who went down toAntarctica as an EMT and a
paramedic, Elizabeth Eklund.
And now she works out ofWashington, and her episode was
fascinating hearing about how itworks down there in Antarctica.
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And her passion for firstresponders is clear in this
message.
So I hope you listen to it.
Episode 207 is the light theepisode she was on.
Here's her message, Elizabeth.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Hi, my name is Elizabeth Eklund, and I am the
owner and operator of MindforgeTherapy Group.
We are in Yalm, Washington.
I was able to be on Steve'sshow, Resilience in Action,
talking about this thing thatI'm very passionate about, which
is health care and firstresponder health.
And I was able to talk withSteve also about my time in
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Antarctica working as an airportrescue firefighter.
I appreciate Steve.
I enjoyed being on the show, andI'd love to be on the show again
to talk about this subject thatwe just don't have enough
information out there on.
And so, anyway, I just wanted tosay the show is important.
It needs to continue, and I hopethat I can be on it again to
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talk about this thing that I amvery committed and passionate
about.
First responder mental health.
See y'all in the future.
Bye.
SPEAKER_12 (10:32):
Now, here's a person that I've had before on the show
who I've been on his show manytimes, and truly part of the
Psychcraft Network, which isimportant to me.
And I know we're working onexciting stuff for the new year.
But um, Gordon Brewer, who isthe founder of the Psychcraft
Network, has been on before.
He was talking about the firstresponder world, how the change
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in his life and having a familymember work as a first responder
has really impacted him and thework that he does.
And so here is Gordon Brewer.
And Gordon, thank you so muchfor being on episode 211.
SPEAKER_10 (11:09):
Well, hello, Steve, and congratulations on another
year of the ResilienceDevelopment and Action podcast.
I'm Gordon Brewer, and I'm theperson behind the Practice of
Therapy podcast.
And I had the privilege of beingon Steve's podcast earlier this
past year.
And Steve has also been uh afairly regular guest on my
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podcast, the Practice of Therapypodcast.
But Steve, I you know, I wasgoing back and listening to the
episode that we recorded on yourpodcast earlier this year and
just thinking about firstresponders and grief and trauma
and all of that sort of thing,of just for people to really
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recognize that regardless ofwhat sort of traumatic things
they've gone through in life,they can um they can recover and
they can make it through.
And I love love the title ofyour podcast, Resilience
Development.
And that, you know, the thething about it is that
resilience and grief is aprocess.
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It's not something where youjust uh go to therapy and then
all of a sudden you're you'redone with grief or you're done
with uh the process of ofdealing with different things
within your life.
But the good news is that, andI've seen this over and over in
my work with people and alsothrough my own therapy.
Uh, I'm not I can't remember ifwe shared this, but I went
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through uh a couple of years agothe death of my wife and um
having to work through herbattle with cancer and uh seeing
just the downturn for her andbeing with her too to the very
end, it has an effect on you,and you don't really realize the
effect of grief because it itkind of can compound itself over
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time.
But one of the things is thatI've recognized, and I would
encourage your listeners torecognize is that grief is not
something you get over.
It's not like uh you dosomething and you wake up one
day and then it no longeraffects you.
Grief is something you movethrough.
And I don't care what kind ofloss it is or who it is that
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you've lost, or you know,there's different kinds of
losses as well.
There are the the losses inwhich um we go through life
transitions, you know, kidsgoing off to college or the
breakup of a relationship or anyof those kinds of things are all
still losses.
You know, the loss of a pet uhcan have uh a profound effect on
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us.
But, you know, the thing aboutit is is by talking with others
and by sharing your grief withothers, it helps, it has that
has that way of healing.
Grief is not something you getcured of, but it is something
that you can heal from.
And so that's that's been mylife experience and also just in
the work that I've done withpeople over the years.
(14:08):
So uh again, Steve, thanks forwhat you do and just making um
being real and just being honestand genuine with your audience
and just telling it like it is.
That's one thing I respect uhmost about Steve Bisson is his
uh his candor and hisdirectness, which is uh much
(14:30):
needed, particularly in the inthis field.
So take care, everyone.
And again, Steve,congratulations on another great
year of the ResilienceDevelopment in Action podcast.
SPEAKER_12 (14:42):
Now, this guy, geez, I gotta be careful what I say
about this guy.
Uh, he's a personal friend.
We work on a a pro we work on aprogram called Fortress.
Please go and check it out onour website, hopefully.
Because I uh for GambitCounseling, um, I love working
with Bill Dwinell's.
Bill has worked with me on thecrisis team.
We've done personal work.
But Bill, just a genuine niceperson who knows about first
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responders being himself an EMT.
I will sh not say what I've saidto him before, or I wrote to
someone else and he got pissyabout it.
Uh, but if you want to knowthat, just leave me a note here.
Click on it, and it's in theshow notes, you can leave a
message to me and I can let youknow what it was.
But Bill Dwynells, thank you forbeing on episode 220, and here
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is his message.
SPEAKER_11 (15:28):
Hi, this is Bill Dwynells from Dwynell's
Behavioral Health.com.
I've been asked to say a fewwords about uh my appearances on
Steve's podcast, um, FindingYour Way Through Therapy.
Uh I had the joy ofparticipating in episodes 25,
55, 100, 220, and 221.
(15:52):
Um, it was a fantastic time, hada really good time with it.
Steve was a fantastic host,always made me feel very
comfortable um discussing thingswith him, as well as uh bringing
up some really good questionsand topics for us to discuss.
Um, I really look forward to uhthe chance to do it again with
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him.
I guess that's all I have tosay.
Fantastic.
Great job, Steve.
Keep up the good work.
You're really making adifference with the podcast and
all the other activities that Iknow you do.
Um, happy holidays to everyone,and see you guys around.
SPEAKER_12 (16:30):
Well, the next guest from episode 221, Deidre
Gastron, love talking about howwe can prevent burnout, how
we're gonna work on thriving inthe community of first
responders to work together.
And it was a great uh interview.
I know she was nervous about it,but I can't wait to have her
back on.
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Episode 221, Deidre Gastron.
Uh, here's her message, andthank you again for your
presence on my podcast.
SPEAKER_03 (16:58):
Being a guest on the Resilience Development and
Action podcast is a verywelcoming environment.
Steve is very easy to talk to,very easy to coordinate with,
and I love the mission he's on.
And really, what stood out to mewhen we filmed um or recorded my
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episode on from survival mode tosustainable service was his
ability to connect the symptomsthat first responders are
experiencing with what they'relooking for and being able to
pull that out of the messagethat I had to share as first
responders are near and dear tomy heart.
But he has a really a good wayand a knack for pulling out what
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he knows his audience needs, andhe's just an easy person to talk
to.
SPEAKER_12 (17:46):
Next up is probably the guy that I had the most fun
with, and I hope he does comeback.
He's given me the word emergencyresponders versus first
responders, among other things.
But Adam Neff is someone whoworked as a first responder, uh
firefighter, I believe, and EMTparamedic, but also is now a
therapist, which made theconversation even more cool and
(18:08):
uh enjoyable.
But uh Adam Neff, thank you forbeing on episode 222.
And here's his message, andthank you.
I really appreciate it.
I can't wait to have you backon.
SPEAKER_13 (18:17):
What's up, Steve?
How's it going?
Wanted uh give this shout outfor RDA.
The podcast is excellent.
My background is 30 years in thefire service, and now I'm a
licensed professional counselor.
And the thing that I love themost about RDA is the
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conversations are real.
Steve is real.
There is no need to be anythingother than authentic and
genuine.
And I truly believe that's whatmakes RDA a bit different than
some of the other podcasts isthat we talk about how.
(19:06):
We just don't talk about what weneed to do, we talk about how we
need to do it.
So check out RDA.
I'm a big fan, and uh hope totalk to you, Steve, in the near
future.
I got some big things in theworks.
SPEAKER_12 (19:22):
Well, the first guest on our Milford TV studio
is someone I've known for awhile, Renee Mansfield.
She's a coach, she's worked inthe first responder world, she
talks about ADD, she talks aboutdifferent things, about the help
and what happened in her programuh and department.
And, you know, I think it's aninteresting read because we talk
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about administration betrayal,how it feels, and how it feels
to other people.
But Renee, thank you so much forbeing on and um go listen to
her.
She had two interviews, 225 and226.
So go back and listen to thoseepisodes, and here's her
message.
SPEAKER_09 (19:59):
Hasty.
Steve, and anyone else tuningin, it's Renee Mansfield here.
I had a great experience onSteve's podcast.
I also ended up being the firstguest to break in the Milford TV
recording setup.
So basically, I paved the way,and you're welcome.
We had so much to talk aboutthat we actually split it into
(20:22):
two episodes, which I'm choosingto interpret as I had brought
Steve double the content for theprice of one over Achiever
Energy at its finest.
We dove into the hidden symptomsof burnout among first
responders, what it actuallylooks like on the inside, and
how my own experience pushed meto start wayward wellness
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coaching and build programs thathelp crews leaders and entire
police and fire departmentsidentify the signs before shit
really hits the fan.
We also got into the leadershipside, how administration can
absolutely be the cause, butthey can also be the ones who
make the biggest impact whenthey choose to acknowledge the
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subtle signs early instead ofwaiting for the crisis to
actually occur.
If I were adding somethingtoday, it would be this burnout
isn't just a first responderproblem.
This applies to every part oflife.
Anytime something isconsistently draining someone,
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that's not a character flaw.
It's viewed as data.
That's our body saying, hey,pivot here.
Not quit, but pivot.
There's almost always somethingthat's underneath the drain
that's trying to get ourattention.
And as for Steve as the host,he's certainly good.
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My brother-in-law actuallydidn't know that we had known
each other before the episode,but he said that we had vibed so
well together.
So I'm giving Steve the fullcredit for that one.
He had led the conversation in away that made it feel very easy,
real, and packed with value.
So thank you again for having meon, Steve.
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It was an honor to be a part ofthe first Milford TV recording.
And I'm looking forward to roundtwo if you ever need a
two-episode saga.
SPEAKER_12 (22:20):
All right.
Well, Amanda was shy.
She didn't even do a video, butthat's me busting her balls
because she busts my ballsregularly.
But Amanda Rizzoli, uh, 227,just an enjoyable interview.
She was also in the Milford TVstudios, and she was truly a fun
person to talk to.
I've considered her someone Iknew, and we become very
(22:42):
friendly.
Now we've become extremely goodfriends throughout the work with
uh Behind Imagine Beyond, whicha few people will hear about
them too.
But that was the stuff that I Ihope that you guys got from
Amanda and uh all her work shedoes with Community Impact, uh
Chris's Corner, among otherthings.
But Amanda, I will reserve howmuch ball busting I truly want
(23:04):
to do so when we write and youlisten to this episode, so here
it is.
SPEAKER_06 (23:08):
So in natural C fashion, he has been harassing
me multiple times a week to getthis uh message over to him.
So here we are finally.
Um for those of you who don'tknow me, my name is Christian
Amanda Rizzoli, um, episode 227on the wonderful podcast.
And you know, just wanted to saythank you.
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We had a great experience instudio.
It definitely brought thatpersonal level to the podcast,
to the audience, so they couldget a real feel for what it is
that we do for our firstresponders within the community
and outside of the community.
I think that, you know, havingthis new way of interviewing and
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interacting with otherindividuals who have a love for
this and passion for this workis great.
Um I can't wait to be back onthe podcast again so we can
continue talking about theimportance of, you know,
bridging the gaps between firstresponders in home and first
responders and their loved onesand how we can best support them
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and everyone else, you know,again looking at the bigger
picture here, like what are theydealing with at home and what
are some underlying stressesthat are going on at home, and
you know, are these copingmechanisms being exasperated by
these stresses that they'redealing with?
Again, had a great time withthese always do, always will,
you know, building on to growingthis big group that we're doing
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behind the badge and beyond.
Can't wait to see that take offnext year.
And just being a great resourceand a support for each other.
Um that's what we're here for.
And you know, I'm very gratefulthat Steve and I have crossed
paths, and I can't wait to seewhat the future holds for us.
Um again, episode 227.
If you guys want to take alisten again to the podcast, and
if anyone has any questions,needs help, or needs concerns,
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you know where to find all ofus.
Reach out to Steve, reach out tome, reach out to any of us, and
we're all here to help.
SPEAKER_12 (25:04):
Well, the next person is a what I consider a
friend.
Uh, we work together on aparticular company with uh
telehealth.
We also did a project with MindStrong Guardians together.
And it's certainly someone I'veconsulted with.
She's made referrals towards me,I made referrals towards her.
But Blight Landry is someonethat I really, really enjoy.
(25:25):
She has a great book that youcan look up, Trauma
Intelligence.
I think it's a perfect book fora whole lot of people.
It's just great to have her on.
So if you want to go listen toher episode, it's episode 228,
and here's her message.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
Hi, I'm Blythe Landry, licensed clinical social
worker, therapist and coach intrauma and grief, and author of
Trauma Intelligence, The Art ofHelping in a World Filled with
Pain.
And I just wanted to hop on realquick and talk about what an
amazing experience I've hadbeing on Steve Bisson's podcast
twice.
(25:58):
He is such a remarkable person,an incredible interviewer, and a
collaborative host that allowsyou to highlight your expertise,
but also to have fun andengagement and relationship
while doing it.
So if you're considering beingon his podcast, I cannot
recommend it highly enough.
And I cannot recommend theexperience of just engaging with
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Steve and his expertise intrauma and helping those who are
first responders.
Um you learn a lot while you'realso sharing your own
professional story and umexperiences.
SPEAKER_12 (26:34):
Episode 229 is a returning guest who's going to
be back again.
And I, you know, we we just misseach other in the sense that I
like to go to New York and seeher, but she's not there when
she's I'm I'm there.
She comes in Massachusettssometimes, and I'm not here
while she's here.
So we always miss each other.
But someone that I really like,Stephanie Simpson.
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We talk about coaching, we talkabout how it applies to first
responders and the stressorsthat they get.
Um Stephanie was on episode 229.
One day I'll meet her, Ipromise.
I have an idea now for what wecan do as a walk and talk
interview.
But of course, we got to be ableto be in the same place at the
same time.
But Stephanie, uh, you know howmuch we uh we've worked together
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and how much I appreciate youhoping we get that project going
for 2026.
I think that that would be greatfor us.
But uh Stephanie Simpson episode229, here's her stuff that she
talked about.
And thank you, Steph.
SPEAKER_08 (27:30):
Hi everyone, my name is Stephanie Simpson, and I have
had the pleasure of being on thepodcast several different times.
Steve is such a wonderful personto chat with.
It is like being with an oldfriend, and we could go on for
hours.
Um, so it's good that he hekeeps us on track.
The last time I was on thepodcast, we talked about grief
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and our relationship with griefand how it's important for all
of us to name when we're goingthrough grief so that we can
work with it and not have it besomething that has power over
us, but that we work with it andthrough it.
So thank you, Steve, for alwaysinviting me on.
I can't wait till the next time.
SPEAKER_12 (28:09):
Well, now another friend.
And what I mean by that is it'ssomeone who's helped me run a
group.
She's a dispatcher, she's theone who makes me always remember
that we need to listen todispatch when we talk about
first responders, particularlytheir experience with what
happened.
But Lisa Trousus uh episode 231was amazing.
She had a lot of insight.
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I love talking to her.
Uh, we exchange once in a whilewhen we get a chance.
We don't always have a chance,but her episode out of Milford
TV Studios was also reallyhelpful and impactful.
I think that what you got toreally get from that too is not
only her work as a dispatch, buther personal story.
It's over two episodes, part oneand two, but it is all under
episode 231, so go listen to it.
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Lisa, love you.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_05 (28:54):
Thank you, Steve, for letting me be on your
podcast.
I'm honored to have been able tojoin.
I spoke about substance abuse,and as a first responder,
myself, as a dispatcher, I amvery passionate in regards to
substance abuse, whether it'sARC-related, family related, or
friend related.
SPEAKER_12 (29:14):
Thank you again, Steve.
Now, this is a guy that I hadheard many things about.
And I truly uh happy that thisyear we finally connected.
Uh a kindred spirit.
Uh, I know I'm not a policeofficer.
I know that we do uh work indifferent fields, but I think we
have the same passion forhelping the first responders.
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And uh Joe Razuti was on episode233, he was amazing.
Uh I I can't tell you how much Ilove Joe and he busts my balls
regularly, which is reallyimportant for a great healthy
relationship.
Uh, all joking aside, Joe, Ilove you.
He was on episode 233, twoparts, so go listen to that.
And here is his message.
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
Hey, this is Joe from the car.
You know, the thing I like aboutbeing on Steve's podcast, it's
real.
There's no BS, it's culturalcompetency, it's what's going on
in the field.
These are people who are outthere doing it, making it
happen, helping our brothers andsisters.
You don't get a more realerpodcast with a person who
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understands the culture ofworking with first responders.
There's no Fournie Bologna orsomebody that's been in this
business two minutes that triesto claim cultural competence.
This podcast is for those whowant to know what's going on
right now with our culturetoday.
Thanks, Steve, for theopportunity.
Happy holidays, Merry Christmasto all my friends.
SPEAKER_12 (30:43):
Last but certainly not least, he was the uh guest
in the last episode, 235, and itis someone I I worked with on
Mind Strong Guardians, which isno longer available,
unfortunately, but really lovedworking with Justin.
We talked about grief, we talkedabout a lot of different things.
Uh, Coast Guard himself lovedour program that we worked
together.
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Hopefully we continue workingtogether in different ways.
The stuff that he talks about isso important.
So go back and listen to thelast episode 235, but here is
his message.
SPEAKER_14 (31:12):
Hey everyone, Justin Jacobs here, Coast Guard
veteran, ICF certified life andgrief coach and founder of Manly
Grief Coaching.
I recently had the privilege ofbeing a guest on Steve Bisson's
podcast, Resilience Developmentin Action.
We had an open, honestconversation about military and
first responder trauma, grief,mental health, and practical
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paths to healing.
Steve creates a judgment-freespace that allows real stories
and real solutions to comethrough.
If you serve, have served, orsupport someone who does, this
podcast is a must-listen.
Go subscribe to ResilienceDevelopment in Action today.
You'll be glad you did.
Thanks, Steve, for the powerfulplatform.
SPEAKER_12 (31:53):
Well, this completes episode 236.
Guys, thank you.
I wish you a Merry Christmas,happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanzaa,
anything that I mix, Boxing Dayfor my fellow Canadians and
British people.
But for the holidays, if youwant to uh hear my voice a
little bit, here's my lastmessage.
I know it's the the ending ofthe episode, but I will talk a
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little more than I usually dobecause uh one of the things
I've done is change this podcastto what it is now to only for
but it's not only, but for firstresponders and mental health.
Uh it was a big change for methis year, and I appreciate all
of you who followed me on this,and for those who have shared my
episodes and now have gr grownuh my uh audience a little bit
more.
(32:34):
So that's on you, and I reallyappreciate you.
So go get that, go to my websiteto get back to other stuff that
I do, including Fortress andworking on uh first responders
wellness stuff, among otherthings, um, and my personal
business, straight to the pointtherapy.
All this stuff to say that I'vedone this for over four and a
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half years now.
This is a labor of love.
I know it's gonna be a pain.
I know I have a s someone who isan affiliate sponsor, so to
speak, with uh free.ai.
I'm working on another onethat's gonna probably come out
the next uh season, becausewe're starting already season
13, if you can believe that.
So we're gonna definitely uh puta new uh sponsor here, but uh
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please go support my the people.
It's uh the affiliation programsare so key for me.
Uh so please do that.
And uh for those of you who getmy newsletter, respond to the
the survey I'm gonna put in.
If you're a first responder,respond to the survey.
If you're a client of mine,respond to the survey.
I know I'm a pain in the butt.
And if you want to be in theletter in the newsletter and
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want to be in the know, just youknow, write a little note in
this podcast, and I willdefinitely put you on to the
newsletter.
We talk about uh future guests,we talk about what I'm working
on, among other things.
So I hope you do that, and Iwish you the best for these
holidays, and I hope you getsome rest.
Thank you guys.
SPEAKER_07 (34:00):
Please like, subscribe, and follow this
podcast on your favoriteplatform.
A glowing review is alwayshelpful.
And as a reminder, this podcastis for informational,
educational, and entertainmentpurposes only.
If you're struggling with amental health or substance abuse
issue, please reach out to aprofessional counselor for
consultation.
If you are in a mental healthcrisis, call 988 for assistance.
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This number is available in theUnited States and Canada.
Welcome to Resilience Development and
Action with Steve Beesome.
This is the pumpkin's dedicatedto first responder mental
health, helping police, higher,EMS, dispenetors, and paramedics
create better growthenvironments for themselves and
their teams.
Let's get started.ai.
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I won't look at notes.
I will look at who uh left notesand who left a nice video or a
combination of that, but I willnot look at anything and I'll
speak from the heart.
Let me start off with givingthanks.
I know this is the, and yes, Ican't pronounce THs, so yes, you
can laugh at it.
But I wanted to start off withsomething that's so important to
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me, and that is my editors andmy people who keep me.
I like to call them myproducers, directors, whatever
you want to call them, but theyreally help me with cutting out
the m-a and everything else thatI don't want in my episodes.
Let's start off with someonewho's been with me for over over
a couple of years now.
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Her name is Chelsea.
Chelsea works for Steel TigerMedia.
So if you want an editor, goback, go to Steel Tiger Media,
and you can definitely getChelsea to work with you.
She does amazing work.
Chelsea has been a helpfulpresence in my life.
She is military.
She has listened to my episodes.
She has given me feedback.
And ultimately, I just respecther for so many other ways.
(03:06):
Even uh stuff that we recentlylike shared.
I have so much respect for herfor so many reasons.
And we're hopefully uh helpingeach other get to a couple of
goals that we have.
So wanted to put it out therefor that.
But from the bottom of my heart,Chelsea, thank you.
I know this is something you'llprobably want to edit out, ha ha
ha.
But thank you, Chelsea.
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Truly couldn't do this withoutyou.
The other person I want to addis someone who I started in
September or so working with herand um truly have enjoyed it.
And that's my other editor,director, producer, whatever you
want to call her, takes a goodcare of me and does um fantastic
editing, particularly on video,because she works for Milford TV
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and her name is DominiqueCiampa.
Love that name, by the way, andher French name first, and she's
traveled the world.
She is someone who has been verysupportive of my podcast, is
giving me a lot of feedback in agood way.
And everyone that's ever come toMilford TV will know, and we'll
talk about a few of them today,but they will tell you how much
that's pleasurable to them.
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So truly, truly uh appreciateyou, Dominique.
I look forward to continuing towork with you in the coming
year.
I can't wait to have I learned Iwould think that there's at
least two or three people I'mgonna have in studio that you're
gonna be taking care of.
So thank you for that.
But anyway, let's get on withthe episodes.
I put them in, I would like tosay in no particular order, but
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I did put them in an order inthe sense that I went from the
oldest episode to the currentthe most current episode and who
did left a review.
So let's start off with someonethat I truly enjoy.
I'm gonna be on her podcast verysoon, and I hope she comes to my
podcast again because I trulyenjoyed our conversation.
Her name is Krista Gregg.
Krista has been very supportive.
(04:53):
She talked about her jobcleaning up, I don't even know
what to call them, scenes, uh,whether it's hoarding or what
have you.
She does a great job with that,but she talks about all the
difficulties she's seen.
She talks about it in herepisode, in episode 188.
So, which all of these episodeswill be linked in the show
notes, but I hear is the messagefrom Krista.
And thank you again, Krista.
SPEAKER_15 (05:14):
Earlier this year, I had an incredible time on Steve
Bison's podcast, all aboutresilience.
And I had a unique angle tobring to my episode when I spoke
with Steve, and it's still oneof my favorite, favorite podcast
interviews I've ever done.
And we talked a lot about thecrime and trauma scene cleaning
world and also exploring traumaand what trauma and how it's
(05:38):
defined in our own lives andindividually.
So, in any case, I know Steve iscelebrating um another year in
podcasting.
He is such a pro in everythinghe does.
And um, I just wanted to tellhim congratulations.
And if you guys have notlistened to this podcast yet,
please do.
It is chock full of information,and I know I keep tuning in.
(06:01):
All right.
Thanks, Steve, for all you doand for everything.
SPEAKER_12 (06:05):
Next up is a personal friend of mine.
I know her dad significantlybetter than I know her, but it
doesn't mean I don't know her.
Her dad worked with me.
Um, he was a parole officer, andI love working with him.
But Jessica Jameson is someonewho's come on twice now and has
brought up so many good pointsabout you know mental health, uh
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first responder, taking care ofoneself and how that works.
Her episode was episode, as Idon't want to say mmm, because I
don't like doing that, but herepisode was 192.
Jess is just an amazing woman.
Love her, and here's hermessage, and thank you, Jess,
for your contribution.
SPEAKER_16 (06:46):
Hello, listeners.
My name is Jess Jamison, and I'man LMHC and trauma-informed
certified personal trainer.
And I've had the wonderfulopportunity of being on Steve's
podcast twice now.
Um, once in his very early daysas a host, and then later just
before his transition fromfinding your way to resilience
development and action.
We've talked about food trauma,disordered eating, and building
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a healthy relationship withmovement and body image.
My favorite thing about thispodcast is how real and
authentic Steve keeps it.
He and his guests explore reallyheavy topics such as trauma and
grief and the mental health offirst responders, but in a way
that feels hopeful, grounded,and human.
I love how every episode is areminder that healing isn't
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linear and that resiliencedoesn't mean doing it all alone.
SPEAKER_12 (07:36):
Number three is someone that I really enjoyed
talking to, Beth Salmo.
We just had a greatconversation.
She is quick-witted.
Um, we exchange regularly aboutdifferent things since then and
truly appreciate her.
I hope I can have her back onthe show sooner rather than
later, but Beth was veryinteresting.
And here's her message, andthank you, Beth, for episode
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204.
SPEAKER_04 (08:00):
Oh.
Hi there, Steve.
Beth Salmo here.
I'm a little nutty.
I like peanut butter andchocolate.
Congratulations on the massiveongoing success of your podcast.
I have the pleasure of being onepisode 204 with you.
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Your badge doesn't make youbulletproof.
We talked a lot about me as apsychotherapist, how I got into
working with first responders inmilitary and um resilience and
how it's really truly okay toask for help.
I would so excited to be on theepisode with you.
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Would love to do another.
Um, wish you nothing but thebest in the future.
And I can't wait to continuecussing with you more, having
more fun and doing silly thingslike this.
Eating on a congratulationvideo.
So see you soon.
(09:05):
Bye.
SPEAKER_12 (09:06):
Next up is someone who is the last message that I
got, but I I can't tell you howmuch I enjoy our conversation.
She was someone who went down toAntarctica as an EMT and a
paramedic, Elizabeth Eklund.
And now she works out ofWashington, and her episode was
fascinating hearing about how itworks down there in Antarctica.
(09:27):
And her passion for firstresponders is clear in this
message.
So I hope you listen to it.
Episode 207 is the light theepisode she was on.
Here's her message, Elizabeth.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Hi, my name is Elizabeth Eklund, and I am the
owner and operator of MindforgeTherapy Group.
We are in Yalm, Washington.
I was able to be on Steve'sshow, Resilience in Action,
talking about this thing thatI'm very passionate about, which
is health care and firstresponder health.
And I was able to talk withSteve also about my time in
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Antarctica working as an airportrescue firefighter.
I appreciate Steve.
I enjoyed being on the show, andI'd love to be on the show again
to talk about this subject thatwe just don't have enough
information out there on.
And so, anyway, I just wanted tosay the show is important.
It needs to continue, and I hopethat I can be on it again to
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talk about this thing that I amvery committed and passionate
about.
First responder mental health.
See y'all in the future.
Bye.
SPEAKER_12 (10:32):
Now, here's a person that I've had before on the show
who I've been on his show manytimes, and truly part of the
Psychcraft Network, which isimportant to me.
And I know we're working onexciting stuff for the new year.
But um, Gordon Brewer, who isthe founder of the Psychcraft
Network, has been on before.
He was talking about the firstresponder world, how the change
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in his life and having a familymember work as a first responder
has really impacted him and thework that he does.
And so here is Gordon Brewer.
And Gordon, thank you so muchfor being on episode 211.
SPEAKER_10 (11:09):
Well, hello, Steve, and congratulations on another
year of the ResilienceDevelopment and Action podcast.
I'm Gordon Brewer, and I'm theperson behind the Practice of
Therapy podcast.
And I had the privilege of beingon Steve's podcast earlier this
past year.
And Steve has also been uh afairly regular guest on my
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podcast, the Practice of Therapypodcast.
But Steve, I you know, I wasgoing back and listening to the
episode that we recorded on yourpodcast earlier this year and
just thinking about firstresponders and grief and trauma
and all of that sort of thing,of just for people to really
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recognize that regardless ofwhat sort of traumatic things
they've gone through in life,they can um they can recover and
they can make it through.
And I love love the title ofyour podcast, Resilience
Development.
And that, you know, the thething about it is that
resilience and grief is aprocess.
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It's not something where youjust uh go to therapy and then
all of a sudden you're you'redone with grief or you're done
with uh the process of ofdealing with different things
within your life.
But the good news is that, andI've seen this over and over in
my work with people and alsothrough my own therapy.
Uh, I'm not I can't remember ifwe shared this, but I went
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through uh a couple of years agothe death of my wife and um
having to work through herbattle with cancer and uh seeing
just the downturn for her andbeing with her too to the very
end, it has an effect on you,and you don't really realize the
effect of grief because it itkind of can compound itself over
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time.
But one of the things is thatI've recognized, and I would
encourage your listeners torecognize is that grief is not
something you get over.
It's not like uh you dosomething and you wake up one
day and then it no longeraffects you.
Grief is something you movethrough.
And I don't care what kind ofloss it is or who it is that
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you've lost, or you know,there's different kinds of
losses as well.
There are the the losses inwhich um we go through life
transitions, you know, kidsgoing off to college or the
breakup of a relationship or anyof those kinds of things are all
still losses.
You know, the loss of a pet uhcan have uh a profound effect on
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us.
But, you know, the thing aboutit is is by talking with others
and by sharing your grief withothers, it helps, it has that
has that way of healing.
Grief is not something you getcured of, but it is something
that you can heal from.
And so that's that's been mylife experience and also just in
the work that I've done withpeople over the years.
(14:08):
So uh again, Steve, thanks forwhat you do and just making um
being real and just being honestand genuine with your audience
and just telling it like it is.
That's one thing I respect uhmost about Steve Bisson is his
uh his candor and hisdirectness, which is uh much
(14:30):
needed, particularly in the inthis field.
So take care, everyone.
And again, Steve,congratulations on another great
year of the ResilienceDevelopment in Action podcast.
SPEAKER_12 (14:42):
Now, this guy, geez, I gotta be careful what I say
about this guy.
Uh, he's a personal friend.
We work on a a pro we work on aprogram called Fortress.
Please go and check it out onour website, hopefully.
Because I uh for GambitCounseling, um, I love working
with Bill Dwinell's.
Bill has worked with me on thecrisis team.
We've done personal work.
But Bill, just a genuine niceperson who knows about first
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responders being himself an EMT.
I will sh not say what I've saidto him before, or I wrote to
someone else and he got pissyabout it.
Uh, but if you want to knowthat, just leave me a note here.
Click on it, and it's in theshow notes, you can leave a
message to me and I can let youknow what it was.
But Bill Dwynells, thank you forbeing on episode 220, and here
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is his message.
SPEAKER_11 (15:28):
Hi, this is Bill Dwynells from Dwynell's
Behavioral Health.com.
I've been asked to say a fewwords about uh my appearances on
Steve's podcast, um, FindingYour Way Through Therapy.
Uh I had the joy ofparticipating in episodes 25,
55, 100, 220, and 221.
(15:52):
Um, it was a fantastic time, hada really good time with it.
Steve was a fantastic host,always made me feel very
comfortable um discussing thingswith him, as well as uh bringing
up some really good questionsand topics for us to discuss.
Um, I really look forward to uhthe chance to do it again with
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him.
I guess that's all I have tosay.
Fantastic.
Great job, Steve.
Keep up the good work.
You're really making adifference with the podcast and
all the other activities that Iknow you do.
Um, happy holidays to everyone,and see you guys around.
SPEAKER_12 (16:30):
Well, the next guest from episode 221, Deidre
Gastron, love talking about howwe can prevent burnout, how
we're gonna work on thriving inthe community of first
responders to work together.
And it was a great uh interview.
I know she was nervous about it,but I can't wait to have her
back on.
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Episode 221, Deidre Gastron.
Uh, here's her message, andthank you again for your
presence on my podcast.
SPEAKER_03 (16:58):
Being a guest on the Resilience Development and
Action podcast is a verywelcoming environment.
Steve is very easy to talk to,very easy to coordinate with,
and I love the mission he's on.
And really, what stood out to mewhen we filmed um or recorded my
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episode on from survival mode tosustainable service was his
ability to connect the symptomsthat first responders are
experiencing with what they'relooking for and being able to
pull that out of the messagethat I had to share as first
responders are near and dear tomy heart.
But he has a really a good wayand a knack for pulling out what
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he knows his audience needs, andhe's just an easy person to talk
to.
SPEAKER_12 (17:46):
Next up is probably the guy that I had the most fun
with, and I hope he does comeback.
He's given me the word emergencyresponders versus first
responders, among other things.
But Adam Neff is someone whoworked as a first responder, uh
firefighter, I believe, and EMTparamedic, but also is now a
therapist, which made theconversation even more cool and
(18:08):
uh enjoyable.
But uh Adam Neff, thank you forbeing on episode 222.
And here's his message, andthank you.
I really appreciate it.
I can't wait to have you backon.
SPEAKER_13 (18:17):
What's up, Steve?
How's it going?
Wanted uh give this shout outfor RDA.
The podcast is excellent.
My background is 30 years in thefire service, and now I'm a
licensed professional counselor.
And the thing that I love themost about RDA is the
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conversations are real.
Steve is real.
There is no need to be anythingother than authentic and
genuine.
And I truly believe that's whatmakes RDA a bit different than
some of the other podcasts isthat we talk about how.
(19:06):
We just don't talk about what weneed to do, we talk about how we
need to do it.
So check out RDA.
I'm a big fan, and uh hope totalk to you, Steve, in the near
future.
I got some big things in theworks.
SPEAKER_12 (19:22):
Well, the first guest on our Milford TV studio
is someone I've known for awhile, Renee Mansfield.
She's a coach, she's worked inthe first responder world, she
talks about ADD, she talks aboutdifferent things, about the help
and what happened in her programuh and department.
And, you know, I think it's aninteresting read because we talk
(19:44):
about administration betrayal,how it feels, and how it feels
to other people.
But Renee, thank you so much forbeing on and um go listen to
her.
She had two interviews, 225 and226.
So go back and listen to thoseepisodes, and here's her
message.
SPEAKER_09 (19:59):
Hasty.
Steve, and anyone else tuningin, it's Renee Mansfield here.
I had a great experience onSteve's podcast.
I also ended up being the firstguest to break in the Milford TV
recording setup.
So basically, I paved the way,and you're welcome.
We had so much to talk aboutthat we actually split it into
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two episodes, which I'm choosingto interpret as I had brought
Steve double the content for theprice of one over Achiever
Energy at its finest.
We dove into the hidden symptomsof burnout among first
responders, what it actuallylooks like on the inside, and
how my own experience pushed meto start wayward wellness
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coaching and build programs thathelp crews leaders and entire
police and fire departmentsidentify the signs before shit
really hits the fan.
We also got into the leadershipside, how administration can
absolutely be the cause, butthey can also be the ones who
make the biggest impact whenthey choose to acknowledge the
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subtle signs early instead ofwaiting for the crisis to
actually occur.
If I were adding somethingtoday, it would be this burnout
isn't just a first responderproblem.
This applies to every part oflife.
Anytime something isconsistently draining someone,
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that's not a character flaw.
It's viewed as data.
That's our body saying, hey,pivot here.
Not quit, but pivot.
There's almost always somethingthat's underneath the drain
that's trying to get ourattention.
And as for Steve as the host,he's certainly good.
(21:49):
My brother-in-law actuallydidn't know that we had known
each other before the episode,but he said that we had vibed so
well together.
So I'm giving Steve the fullcredit for that one.
He had led the conversation in away that made it feel very easy,
real, and packed with value.
So thank you again for having meon, Steve.
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It was an honor to be a part ofthe first Milford TV recording.
And I'm looking forward to roundtwo if you ever need a
two-episode saga.
SPEAKER_12 (22:20):
All right.
Well, Amanda was shy.
She didn't even do a video, butthat's me busting her balls
because she busts my ballsregularly.
But Amanda Rizzoli, uh, 227,just an enjoyable interview.
She was also in the Milford TVstudios, and she was truly a fun
person to talk to.
I've considered her someone Iknew, and we become very
(22:42):
friendly.
Now we've become extremely goodfriends throughout the work with
uh Behind Imagine Beyond, whicha few people will hear about
them too.
But that was the stuff that I Ihope that you guys got from
Amanda and uh all her work shedoes with Community Impact, uh
Chris's Corner, among otherthings.
But Amanda, I will reserve howmuch ball busting I truly want
(23:04):
to do so when we write and youlisten to this episode, so here
it is.
SPEAKER_06 (23:08):
So in natural C fashion, he has been harassing
me multiple times a week to getthis uh message over to him.
So here we are finally.
Um for those of you who don'tknow me, my name is Christian
Amanda Rizzoli, um, episode 227on the wonderful podcast.
And you know, just wanted to saythank you.
(23:29):
We had a great experience instudio.
It definitely brought thatpersonal level to the podcast,
to the audience, so they couldget a real feel for what it is
that we do for our firstresponders within the community
and outside of the community.
I think that, you know, havingthis new way of interviewing and
(23:50):
interacting with otherindividuals who have a love for
this and passion for this workis great.
Um I can't wait to be back onthe podcast again so we can
continue talking about theimportance of, you know,
bridging the gaps between firstresponders in home and first
responders and their loved onesand how we can best support them
(24:12):
and everyone else, you know,again looking at the bigger
picture here, like what are theydealing with at home and what
are some underlying stressesthat are going on at home, and
you know, are these copingmechanisms being exasperated by
these stresses that they'redealing with?
Again, had a great time withthese always do, always will,
you know, building on to growingthis big group that we're doing
(24:35):
behind the badge and beyond.
Can't wait to see that take offnext year.
And just being a great resourceand a support for each other.
Um that's what we're here for.
And you know, I'm very gratefulthat Steve and I have crossed
paths, and I can't wait to seewhat the future holds for us.
Um again, episode 227.
If you guys want to take alisten again to the podcast, and
if anyone has any questions,needs help, or needs concerns,
(24:58):
you know where to find all ofus.
Reach out to Steve, reach out tome, reach out to any of us, and
we're all here to help.
SPEAKER_12 (25:04):
Well, the next person is a what I consider a
friend.
Uh, we work together on aparticular company with uh
telehealth.
We also did a project with MindStrong Guardians together.
And it's certainly someone I'veconsulted with.
She's made referrals towards me,I made referrals towards her.
But Blight Landry is someonethat I really, really enjoy.
(25:25):
She has a great book that youcan look up, Trauma
Intelligence.
I think it's a perfect book fora whole lot of people.
It's just great to have her on.
So if you want to go listen toher episode, it's episode 228,
and here's her message.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
Hi, I'm Blythe Landry, licensed clinical social
worker, therapist and coach intrauma and grief, and author of
Trauma Intelligence, The Art ofHelping in a World Filled with
Pain.
And I just wanted to hop on realquick and talk about what an
amazing experience I've hadbeing on Steve Bisson's podcast
twice.
(25:58):
He is such a remarkable person,an incredible interviewer, and a
collaborative host that allowsyou to highlight your expertise,
but also to have fun andengagement and relationship
while doing it.
So if you're considering beingon his podcast, I cannot
recommend it highly enough.
And I cannot recommend theexperience of just engaging with
(26:21):
Steve and his expertise intrauma and helping those who are
first responders.
Um you learn a lot while you'realso sharing your own
professional story and umexperiences.
SPEAKER_12 (26:34):
Episode 229 is a returning guest who's going to
be back again.
And I, you know, we we just misseach other in the sense that I
like to go to New York and seeher, but she's not there when
she's I'm I'm there.
She comes in Massachusettssometimes, and I'm not here
while she's here.
So we always miss each other.
But someone that I really like,Stephanie Simpson.
(26:55):
We talk about coaching, we talkabout how it applies to first
responders and the stressorsthat they get.
Um Stephanie was on episode 229.
One day I'll meet her, Ipromise.
I have an idea now for what wecan do as a walk and talk
interview.
But of course, we got to be ableto be in the same place at the
same time.
But Stephanie, uh, you know howmuch we uh we've worked together
(27:15):
and how much I appreciate youhoping we get that project going
for 2026.
I think that that would be greatfor us.
But uh Stephanie Simpson episode229, here's her stuff that she
talked about.
And thank you, Steph.
SPEAKER_08 (27:30):
Hi everyone, my name is Stephanie Simpson, and I have
had the pleasure of being on thepodcast several different times.
Steve is such a wonderful personto chat with.
It is like being with an oldfriend, and we could go on for
hours.
Um, so it's good that he hekeeps us on track.
The last time I was on thepodcast, we talked about grief
(27:51):
and our relationship with griefand how it's important for all
of us to name when we're goingthrough grief so that we can
work with it and not have it besomething that has power over
us, but that we work with it andthrough it.
So thank you, Steve, for alwaysinviting me on.
I can't wait till the next time.
SPEAKER_12 (28:09):
Well, now another friend.
And what I mean by that is it'ssomeone who's helped me run a
group.
She's a dispatcher, she's theone who makes me always remember
that we need to listen todispatch when we talk about
first responders, particularlytheir experience with what
happened.
But Lisa Trousus uh episode 231was amazing.
She had a lot of insight.
(28:30):
I love talking to her.
Uh, we exchange once in a whilewhen we get a chance.
We don't always have a chance,but her episode out of Milford
TV Studios was also reallyhelpful and impactful.
I think that what you got toreally get from that too is not
only her work as a dispatch, buther personal story.
It's over two episodes, part oneand two, but it is all under
episode 231, so go listen to it.
(28:51):
Lisa, love you.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_05 (28:54):
Thank you, Steve, for letting me be on your
podcast.
I'm honored to have been able tojoin.
I spoke about substance abuse,and as a first responder,
myself, as a dispatcher, I amvery passionate in regards to
substance abuse, whether it'sARC-related, family related, or
friend related.
SPEAKER_12 (29:14):
Thank you again, Steve.
Now, this is a guy that I hadheard many things about.
And I truly uh happy that thisyear we finally connected.
Uh a kindred spirit.
Uh, I know I'm not a policeofficer.
I know that we do uh work indifferent fields, but I think we
have the same passion forhelping the first responders.
(29:34):
And uh Joe Razuti was on episode233, he was amazing.
Uh I I can't tell you how much Ilove Joe and he busts my balls
regularly, which is reallyimportant for a great healthy
relationship.
Uh, all joking aside, Joe, Ilove you.
He was on episode 233, twoparts, so go listen to that.
And here is his message.
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
Hey, this is Joe from the car.
You know, the thing I like aboutbeing on Steve's podcast, it's
real.
There's no BS, it's culturalcompetency, it's what's going on
in the field.
These are people who are outthere doing it, making it
happen, helping our brothers andsisters.
You don't get a more realerpodcast with a person who
(30:20):
understands the culture ofworking with first responders.
There's no Fournie Bologna orsomebody that's been in this
business two minutes that triesto claim cultural competence.
This podcast is for those whowant to know what's going on
right now with our culturetoday.
Thanks, Steve, for theopportunity.
Happy holidays, Merry Christmasto all my friends.
SPEAKER_12 (30:43):
Last but certainly not least, he was the uh guest
in the last episode, 235, and itis someone I I worked with on
Mind Strong Guardians, which isno longer available,
unfortunately, but really lovedworking with Justin.
We talked about grief, we talkedabout a lot of different things.
Uh, Coast Guard himself lovedour program that we worked
together.
(31:03):
Hopefully we continue workingtogether in different ways.
The stuff that he talks about isso important.
So go back and listen to thelast episode 235, but here is
his message.
SPEAKER_14 (31:12):
Hey everyone, Justin Jacobs here, Coast Guard
veteran, ICF certified life andgrief coach and founder of Manly
Grief Coaching.
I recently had the privilege ofbeing a guest on Steve Bisson's
podcast, Resilience Developmentin Action.
We had an open, honestconversation about military and
first responder trauma, grief,mental health, and practical
(31:33):
paths to healing.
Steve creates a judgment-freespace that allows real stories
and real solutions to comethrough.
If you serve, have served, orsupport someone who does, this
podcast is a must-listen.
Go subscribe to ResilienceDevelopment in Action today.
You'll be glad you did.
Thanks, Steve, for the powerfulplatform.
SPEAKER_12 (31:53):
Well, this completes episode 236.
Guys, thank you.
I wish you a Merry Christmas,happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanzaa,
anything that I mix, Boxing Dayfor my fellow Canadians and
British people.
But for the holidays, if youwant to uh hear my voice a
little bit, here's my lastmessage.
I know it's the the ending ofthe episode, but I will talk a
(32:14):
little more than I usually dobecause uh one of the things
I've done is change this podcastto what it is now to only for
but it's not only, but for firstresponders and mental health.
Uh it was a big change for methis year, and I appreciate all
of you who followed me on this,and for those who have shared my
episodes and now have gr grownuh my uh audience a little bit
more.
(32:34):
So that's on you, and I reallyappreciate you.
So go get that, go to my websiteto get back to other stuff that
I do, including Fortress andworking on uh first responders
wellness stuff, among otherthings, um, and my personal
business, straight to the pointtherapy.
All this stuff to say that I'vedone this for over four and a
(32:57):
half years now.
This is a labor of love.
I know it's gonna be a pain.
I know I have a s someone who isan affiliate sponsor, so to
speak, with uh free.ai.
I'm working on another onethat's gonna probably come out
the next uh season, becausewe're starting already season
13, if you can believe that.
So we're gonna definitely uh puta new uh sponsor here, but uh
(33:19):
please go support my the people.
It's uh the affiliation programsare so key for me.
Uh so please do that.
And uh for those of you who getmy newsletter, respond to the
the survey I'm gonna put in.
If you're a first responder,respond to the survey.
If you're a client of mine,respond to the survey.
I know I'm a pain in the butt.
And if you want to be in theletter in the newsletter and
(33:40):
want to be in the know, just youknow, write a little note in
this podcast, and I willdefinitely put you on to the
newsletter.
We talk about uh future guests,we talk about what I'm working
on, among other things.
So I hope you do that, and Iwish you the best for these
holidays, and I hope you getsome rest.
Thank you guys.
SPEAKER_07 (34:00):
Please like, subscribe, and follow this
podcast on your favoriteplatform.
A glowing review is alwayshelpful.
And as a reminder, this podcastis for informational,
educational, and entertainmentpurposes only.
If you're struggling with amental health or substance abuse
issue, please reach out to aprofessional counselor for
consultation.
If you are in a mental healthcrisis, call 988 for assistance.
(34:24):
This number is available in theUnited States and Canada.
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