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What if we told you that embracing authenticity and self-belief could revolutionize your personal and artistic journey? Join us in the colorful ambiance of The Watermelon Room, where we sit down with Michael Morstein, a pivotal player in Baltimore's music and art scene. Michael shares profound insights on the creation of PRISM Baltimore, his initiative aimed at uniting communities through diverse cultural events. Through engaging stories and heartfelt discussion, we examine the transformative power of genuine interactions and respecting diverse perspectives, setting the stage for a more harmonious society.

Our conversation takes an insightful turn as we explore the intricate dance between technology and culture, revealing both opportunities and hurdles for artists striving to connect and create. From navigating the ever-shifting digital landscape to contemplating the vastness of human existence, we reflect on the role of self-awareness and intuition in guiding us toward our full potential. Delve into the cosmic questions of interconnectedness and the comfort found in art and music as profound modes of expression, especially in the face of life's challenges.

Later, we dive into a rapid-fire Q&A session, revealing personal quirks and aspirations, while celebrating the vibrant Baltimore hip-hop scene and its global impact. We highlight the joy of embracing one's creative journey, regardless of fame, and the importance of nurturing a tight-knit community. As we share gratitude for the unwavering support of friends and family, we rejoice in the shared human experience, leaving listeners inspired and connected to the vibrant tapestry of the local creative community.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, there are certain situations where you
know you're like you know how tolearn something, you know what
you need to study in order to tomaster it.
Well, like patience, likethere's not one thing that you
can do to like to gain patience,and what it is, you know.
It's just like I feel, likeit's experiences, you know, and

(00:23):
that's what, in turn, is thecurrency of patience.
Absolutely yeah that was fireyes, it feels good to be here in

(00:54):
Baltimore, in the watermelonroom, and we are here.
The Respecting Perspectivespodcast is live and direct and
direct, and I have one of mybest friends and truly an

(01:15):
inspiring person who do I havetell him, tell him who you are
and, uh, you know what you're,uh, what you're doing, doing
here, how'd you get here?
Give me some, give me somethingum, my name is Michael Morstein
.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I guess when you ask me what I'm doing or how I got
here, my mind first thinks of, Iguess how do I know you?
And that is through theBaltimore music scene and the
Baltimore art community.
I currently curate somethingcalled Prism Prism Baltimore and

(01:47):
we throw events that arebasically music and art, cross
genres and cross cultural tohelp build bridges within the
community, help build actualcommunity and, yeah, just make
life cooler, because, you know,life is hard as hell for a lot
of us, you know.
So we need to do things tobring us all together and
provide joy to people you knowand ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Let me tell you something.
You are definitely one of theoriginal keepers of the cool I'm
not lying, Like I heard thatterm before and there were a few
people who came to mind and thekeepers of the cool dude, I'm
telling you like never heard theterm.

(02:31):
Well, let me here here it is.
You know it really.
It you're able to take all thethings that you've learned in
your life and turn them intosomething that is from the heart
and meaningful, and you cantell that the way that you move

(02:53):
and the way that you interactwith people is extremely genuine
.
And you know, I just want ourlisteners to know that me and
Mike have been friends for along time and I really value the
friendship that we have and I'mexcited to have you here.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Word up yeah, word up man.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, dude, is there anything you know specifically
that gosh, you know you feellike you'd like to bring to the
uh, to the forefront or or.
I mean because we've had manyconversations in the past like
you know, like week or two, andit's like that's the coolest
part about all this is like youknow where we can end up in in a

(03:35):
conversation and and it'sbrought some really awesome
topics and and and uh insights,and I'd love some of yours, dude
um, well, I guess, like I'mwilling to conversate whichever
way the conversation flows, um,if you ask me I think your
question was um, what are somethings I want to bring to the
forefront, I guess?

(03:55):
and I.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I guess that would be be yourself.
Um, always follow what's inyour heart, um, whatever your
intuition is, or that gutfeeling is that you feel inside,
uh, listen to it and even eventest it out.
You know what I mean, if youdon't believe it um, just test
it out, follow it, follow itcertain times and think to
yourself all right, I'm gonnasee how this goes.
If it doesn't go well, mark itdown that it didn't go well.

(04:18):
If it does go well, mark thatdown and see that.
You might see at least.
At least that I found that moreoften than not, when you listen
to it, things work out, and alot of times when you don't you
know, things may not work out sowell.
And then I would add in whatgoes on top of that is never
stop believing in yourself oranything that you want to do,

(04:38):
just like you know we've knowneach other for a few years and I
remember when I would run intoyou at parties and events around
town and you would talk aboutthings you had in mind.
None of this existed yet.
And now here you are and thisis like a real fire setup.
It's a real dope podcast, thankyou.
Dope concept respectingperspectives, which I think is

(04:59):
something that's integral if wewant to have a better world or a
better society.
That's integral if we want tohave a better world or a better
society is if all of us canstart respecting each other's
perspectives a little bit more,especially the ones that we
don't agree with or don'tunderstand.
So yeah, always be yourself.
You never know what's possible.
Look at Andrew right here.
He's got a dope podcast going.
His music's sounding great anda few years ago it was something

(05:23):
I heard him talk about and nowit's all here.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So right back in the day I I think I remember meeting
you.
I was always the one in theback of the room freestyling,
you know, just like you know anduh, but but that was just, that
was practice.
You know, I was in the back ofthe room just just practicing
and, uh, being able to freestylewas one of the things that
really like helped me, justhelped me like break the ice.
You know, it's easy to remember.

(05:53):
We were talking the other dayabout starting a conversation
and what it takes to do that,and, uh, how some people are
more comfortable, you know, with, with, with, with doing.
You know starting aconversation as opposed to you
know the one, to, I guess youcould say finish the
conversation.
But it makes you think aboutyou know what that icebreaker is

(06:16):
going to be.
You know it can be something assmall as you know, just like a
physical attribute or something.
Or you know something as largeas, like, you know the setting
that you're in.
You know, just like a physicalattribute or something.
Or you know something as largeas, like, you know the setting
that you're in.
You know.
But it's really cool to thinkabout that and like, when you
think of respecting perspectives, what does that make you think?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Just like you know, like first, I mean first I go to
like culture, or you know,people from different
ethnicities, backgrounds, thathave different lifestyles that
might think the other person iscrazy for how they're living.
Or politics is that's probablylike the big one, the obvious
one, where we seem to have thistwo-sided dichotomy, where both

(07:06):
sides just refuse to respect theother side's perspective and
whether that's justified or not,I'm not here to judge that, but
it's clearly left us in aposition where the two sides do
not respect one another.
And there's no way we can reallymove forward.
Imagine, like you and someonein your life that you want to

(07:27):
have a relationship with and Idon't mean that in any kind of
romantic way or anything.
You just want to know thisperson, be friends,
acquaintances, work at the samebusiness, whatever it is, you
just have to have.
You want to have a workingrelationship because you're
going to be around this person.
Yeah, and imagine if you andthis person just refuse to sit
at the same table, refuse tocompromise, refuse to act like
that, though right.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
There's usually like a mishap or something, to where
then they're like right, right.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
People are justified in what they're feeling Exactly,
and that's what makes it sochallenging.
I'm not saying it's easy.
I'll also be the first to saythat sometimes I need to take
that advice.
You know what I mean.
Sometimes I find myselfsometimes not respecting a
perspective that I'd be like, ohman, how can they see things
that way?
That's ridiculous, you know,and therefore I might act in a

(08:37):
way that doesn't show respecttowards that, or maybe I don't
feel that in my heart, orwhatever.
But then when I think about it,I'm like well, to what ends
does that lead me?
To what outcome?
And ultimately, it's likesometimes your wisdom is ahead
of your behavioral patterns oryour trained way of thinking and
stuff, and so, for me,sometimes I find myself not

(08:59):
doing it, even though when Ireflect upon it I'm like, yeah,
that's actually the goal.
You know what I'm saying.
We got to respect everybody fromwhere they're at, and I get
like things have happened thatcause us to feel strongly one
way or the other about things,but most people caught up in
that have not done anything toone another.
It's just their perspectivesthat people feel threatened by,

(09:23):
and so I think when we get downto that, we have to say, hey,
has this person actually harmedme, or do they just believe
things that I don't agree with?
And if the person hasn't harmedme, hasn't harmed my family,
hasn't harmed my friends, maybeI should extend an olive branch,
and if we could do that, notjust as individuals but as a
collective, hopefully we couldsee a better world, a better

(09:45):
society, and I guess what thatleads to is a more what's the
word?
I'm looking for Accountablegovernment, because it's harder
to hold those in poweraccountable when we're down here
fighting with one another.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh, man, that know a certain structure right that's
in place and trying tounderstand, you know the levels
of it and where you land.
And then, like, understandingthat you know it shouldn't be

(10:24):
levels, you know we should allbe able to coexist, you know, at
the same level, right At somepoint Now we've already, you
know, structured and built these, you know these layers, layers,

(10:50):
so it's like we're trying to Ithink you personally, you know
find where I fit in to that, youknow groove and how I can help,
like the people around me,thrive, not just, not just like
be happy, but thrive.
And I think the differencebetween that is like being happy
with your current situation butknowing that you, taking

(11:17):
certain action with your life,can, can, can, can, you know,
lead it to a full, you know, afull span of just um, you know
you're, you're really just inthe moment, as much as possible
and taking, taking advantage ofof opportunities.
Right, and sometimes I can, Ican sorry, I get lost sometimes

(11:39):
and I'm like I'm trying to getthe you know an idea out and I
got a new one that's coming in.
You know you got a downloadfrom over here and I'm like, but
it would sit with you justreally is getting me, you know,
getting things ticking and it's,uh, it's cool to kind of, you
know, think about those things.
Word, word, word.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, well, we can.
We can go in any direction inthe conversation.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So if at any time you're Like, oh, I got this new,
take it over here, just runwith it.
You know, man, you know therewas something that I talked to
you about before and I thinkit's something I really like to
build on, and it was the factthat, like mostly, I would say,
I guess my generation okay, Ihave been fortunate enough to
have had lived half of my lifewith a cell phone and then

(12:35):
hopefully, you know, or before,without half of my life without
a cell phone.
You know, evenly, yeah, and youknow it makes you think about.
You know, where do you seemoments of opportunity for

(13:05):
artists to kind of usetechnology in order to, you know
, help them either build theirbrand or um, let's see here, um,
cause you just seem really, youknow, you seem really in touch
with the people around youthrough social media and whatnot
.
You do a really good job ofstaying tapped in.

(13:25):
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
dude.
Well, I guess it's a roundaboutquestion.
So the technology obviouslyhelps me stay tapped in.
Being online, being on socialmedia, seeing what everybody's
doing, just staying connected toas many people as possible
that's inspiring to me.
So that's just how I staytapped in and I just I go out.

(13:49):
You know what I mean.
If there's things I hear aboutthat, I'm able to get to a lot
of things around townsurprisingly, so there's a lot
of things around town that arefree.
There's a lot of things aroundtown that are cheap, so there's
a lot of things around town thatare free.
There's a lot of things aroundtown that are cheap and if you
hear about them and you're offwork, just take the extra time
that you might have had to relaxand just go down to these
events and you know you'll startto get tapped in, because

(14:09):
there'll be people there thatmay not even be a part of that
event.
They're just in the audience,just like you, and you talk to
somebody about whatever and theyend up telling you about
something that they're doing andyou're like, oh wow, I learned
about a whole nother thingthat's going on in baltimore
just because I went to this onething.
So get out and go as manythings as possible.
Technology definitely can helpdo that.
Um, technology can also be usedto kind of hold that back as

(14:34):
well.
So it's a lot about, um, whattechnology you use and how the
technology is being used by thecompanies that use them, and
it's also how you use thetechnology yourself.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
But I like what you said about half our lives on one
side.
I like to call that like we'reliving on the analog, the
digital bridge.
You know what I mean.
Where we started life, analogand the digital still existed,
but the theme of life was stillanalog, and now it seems like
the theme is becoming digitalfast.

(15:07):
You know, you don't have to be.
The earth is still the earth.
You know, nature is stilleverywhere, all around you.
It's not hard to unplug.
It's just that so much of ourculture is adapting now to the
digital world.
So, culturally speaking, we'reculturally in the digital age.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I feel like yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Even though as a species we're not and we never
really.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I don't believe we ever really yeah can be or have
to be.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
But culturally we are there now and yeah, ai, you
know that's a whole thing.
But culturally we are there nowand yeah, ai, you know that's a
whole thing.
I like to think that a lot ofartists I know are mad about AI.
I'll say that.
But as far as, like,disabilities or people with,
like, maybe, certain mentalhealth conditions, I think AI

(15:56):
could be good.
You know people that maybedon't get out the house a lot
some people are People thatmaybe don't get out of the house
a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
How so Some?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
people are isolated at home, can't get out, and the
online, technological, theonline world can become like a
world, a whole immersive world,for them, and so not everybody's
able to do all the things thatwe do, and so for people like
that.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I think it can be very positive.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
that I think is positive, I think it can be very
positive.
But yeah, as far as art goes, alot of artists they definitely
seem to be mad about.
Like you know, you hear Jay-Zverse over some other beat, or,
like you know, you want yourflyer made for a show and you
get it from the AI now in fiveseconds, versus having an artist

(16:38):
from the community.
So it is posing problems as well, as everything in life can be a
problem or or a benefit youknow, and so again, it's it's
how you use it, what you use,but also how you know they use
it as well oh for sure, that's a.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's a good point when, when you think about that,
there's so many differentstories, right, there's like
your story and there's my story,there's your story and then
there's our story.
You know that many differentmovies, you know, or storylines

(17:23):
of books are being written.
You know, right now, when youthink about like 8 billion, you
know people in the world, youknow, do you think like do you
think we were supposed to bethis many people?
Do you think there was supposedto be this many people?
Do you think there was onlysupposed to be like a certain
amount of people?
Or like?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I have no clue.
I have no clue how many peoplewere supposed to be here, but I
also know the earth is reallybig and so you know, 8 billion
sounds like a very big numberwhen we hear that number but,
like if you were to look up howmany deer are on the earth and
like deer live in everycontinent so if you look up, how
many deer are on the earth?

(18:05):
I don't know what that numberwould be.
I would assume billions as wellokay um, and I I have heard
before that like you could crameight billion of us in the state
of texas.
They say, really I don't knowhow much room there would be for
us to walk around still, butlike they say that you could do
that and so I I don't, you know.
Maybe there'll be 20 billion ofus one day, maybe maybe you

(18:27):
know who knows that's.
You just really did put thatinto perspective for me, though,
like you really like, took theamount of people like by, like
you know mass, or like you know,I think I think the problem
with that is we talk aboutresources, and not just
resources for us, but resourcesfor animals, for nature, just to
continue thriving, and Ibelieve that the earth is an

(18:49):
abundant, very massive thing andthat we all come from it.
Every being here comes from it,unless maybe not you know what
I'm saying.
Maybe some of us came fromspace.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh shh, look from up there.
Look, there's a camera up there, but it's all still from the
universe, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I believe that it's our relationship to it
that's more the problem, ifthere is a problem, than the
amount of people that are here.
Like how many cells are in abody, right, you know?
Like probably billions you know, billions, and so if there's
like 8 billion stories, it'slike.
That means like the story ismade up of 8 billion stories.

(19:34):
Yo, and I think that's prettydope and so like, if you imagine
having like a trillion storieswhich there probably is.
If you, you know, look apart thewhole cosmos, then there
probably is trillions of storiesthat comprise, like the great
story, this great story.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Right, they were all a part of that.
Yeah, man, dude, I love how youbroke that down.
One thing that we were talkingabout was like the Ant-Man
concept.
You know, and just like the,you know the, the quantum um and
right, it really does make you,make you imagine all of the

(20:17):
different things that are goingon.
You know, at the same time, andit's like how can we be as
productive as possible in a waythat helps the things around you
and yourself as you look intothe mirror?
So I think, in order to helpother people though, like you do

(20:43):
truly have to figure out how tohelp yourself, Right, and you
know, one of the topics that Ilike to talk about on this show
is self-awareawareness and, uh,you know what are some practices
that other people can do inorder to make discoveries in

(21:12):
self-awareness well, the firstthing I would say that someone
taught me, uh, many years ago Iguess I could, and that is
something real easy we can allkind of do, and if you meditate
out there, it should be easier.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But even if you don't , it's something easier that we
can do.
And that is three steps, andthat's number one is slow down,
number two is breathe and numberthree is check in with your
body.
Number two is breathe andnumber three is check in with
your body.
And so anytime you feel like Idon't know if I'm making the
right decision, or should I bedoing this, or I don't know what
I should be doing, you feellike anxiety about sorry, if I

(21:47):
hit the mic.
You feel anxiety about adecision, or maybe not even.
Maybe you don't have a decision, maybe you aren't doing enough
and you're like, should I bedoing something?
Well, if you have any of uh,confusion or anxiety or whatever
, um, just slow down, take abreak, whatever you're doing
stop doing it.
If you're shopping for groceries, wait till you're done shopping

(22:08):
.
If you're skateboarding, waittill you're done skateboarding.
So hit that ollie and then getdone, whatever you're doing, and
go sit down on the couch, gosit down on your bed, go sit
down in the grass, wherever itis, you sit, and so that's slow
down.
And number two breathe.
Take three deep breaths.
And after you take three deepbreaths and you try to bring

(22:32):
yourself to a centered place,check in with your body?
Ask yourself the question thatyou were weren't uh inquiring
about earlier.
And the first reaction thatyour body gives is most likely
your intuitive, uh thought, yourintuitive feeling and uh,
usually from there.
So, like you have a feelinglike I gotta pay my bill.

(22:52):
And then usually your mind says, but you got three more days,
or you have to this date.
And you have this conversationinside yourself about, well,
okay, well, I'll, well, I'll goFriday and I'll do that.
If you just listen to thatinternal one, you'll never go
wrong, is my point.
So like, oh, I like that.
It's not follow your heart, asin follow your, your wants, and
like, oh, my desires.

(23:13):
It's like your heart willliterally tell you, like you
need to check that bill and thenwe'll look at the calendar I
got a few more days, and thensomething will come up and it'll
make us late and it's like, oh,had we listened to the voice
inside, it would have accountedfor this hiccup that I was about
to experience three days downthe road.
So, yeah, I think when we dothat, that's what I would say

(23:34):
help get inside ofself-awareness, you know,
because it'll get you in touch.
And the more you can practicelistening to your intuition,
like I said, it'll guide you towhatever your version of your
highest self is here on earth.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I believe the universe, god, whatever you want
to call it, source brought usall here, and we all have
encoded in us whatever it takesto get to grow to where we are.
Just like every plant, everyanimal, they just got to be
alive and get sunlight and waterand the food they need, and
then they grow into whateverthey were planted here as a seed

(24:10):
to be, and so we're nodifferent, and we just have to
have faith in ourselves.
You know what I mean?
We have to believe in ourselves, trust ourselves, and a lot of
us have trouble with that,because the society that we live
in, as we all know, is riddledwith a lot of hardship that may
not be needed for the humanexperience in my mind.

(24:32):
Create art while we create music.
Um, uh, while we're, we createall these things to express
ourselves, um as medicine tohelp us get through.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
You know this life that we live in man, let me tell
you, uh, music, yeah, music isthe medicine for me, man.
There's like I've been able tomake different songs that give
me a particular feeling and I'mlike, okay, how can I fill this?

(25:17):
Or it just kind of ends up acertain way, you know, just by
chance and just experimentation,I guess you could say, but it's
really cool to be able to fillthat void myself.

(25:37):
You know, it gives, it makes mefeel like I have some sort of
power, you know, and um, Well,the music's magic, and so when
people make it, it's a powerfulthing.
Yeah, yeah, dude, you wouldthink like Harry Potter's in the
yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You kind of become Harry Potter when you start
making that Dude.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I'm telling you, man, I'd be in there and I just be.
I just had this.
Yeah, just I'm able to likechannel something.
And man, let me tell you, dude,I never really thought that it
could get this this deep andlike this meaningful.
And you know, you're really oneof the people that really makes

(26:22):
me appreciative of art itselfand, at your events, it's PRISM.
Is it PRISM with a Z or with anS?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
With an S all caps, prism P-R-I-S-M all caps.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, and his events have been something that really
are very eclectic and alldifferent kinds of of sounds,
you know.
It really shows you that if theidea is, you know, brought out

(26:58):
properly, then you don't have tofit any particular mold.
It shows that it's all kind ofcoming from a good place and you
should be really proud of theevents that you throw.
And he has been one of thepeople who just really kind of

(27:19):
helped me understand how theproper events were to be thrown
and how to bring a communitytogether.
So you should be proud ofyourself for for doing that and,
uh, I mean, you know how longhave you been doing that and
what?
What inspired, you know,getting so many people you know,

(27:43):
together, you know, for theright causes, man.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
So this is a short, long story and so basically,
like first, I appreciate thecondolence.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
But how it worked out, is thisBack to that intuition thing I
found myself I wouldn't say itwas in a rut, but an in-between

(28:07):
phase in my life.
I was working in an officesetting every day, 40 hours a
week, and I was just kind oflike you know why am I
experiencing all thisquote-unquote synchronicity and
stuff from the universe,whatever woo-woo-woo.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Trying to make sense of it.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
You know I was like you know, I was like it has to
be for some higher purpose, somebetter reason I'm looking for.
What can I do in life?
I'm not feeling fulfilled bypretty much anything in my life
at this point, and so I startedasking for signs of how I could
be used in the best way for theuniverse, for everybody else, to
bring joy and healing to theworld, while also making myself

(28:44):
happy and healed and fulfilled.
How could I bring that feelingto as many people as possible
and myself?
And you know I remember I'msitting with some of my friends.
We're playing Madden one dayand I'm trying to tell them
about like probably some crazyconspiracy theory or something
at the time and one of my boysis just like man, cut your shit,

(29:06):
man.
He points to like a bottle ofExcedrin.
He's like you still eatMcDonald's.
You still take this for yourheadaches.
Either shut the fuck up and dosomething about it.
That's a good one.
He's like I don't want to hearthis shit from you.
I'm like, damn, I felt him.
And again, shit from you.
I'm like damn, he, I felt him.
Oh, and again, without reallymuch planning, just me being

(29:26):
like all right, I gotta findsomething and and change my life
, I gotta.
I run into some people that arelike, um, basically doing
spiritual activism and withoutreally even knowing I'm.
It's a long, even longer story.
Yeah, um, but like I just startbasically at their at their
second event.
I show up, I don't know any ofthem, um, but they invite us all

(29:47):
back.
Whoever was, there was onlylike seven or eight people at
the time.
They invite us all back to somepotluck type thing and, um, we
do that next thing.
I know it's like a meeting forthe next one.
So I'm feeling both weirded outbecause I'm like hold up.
I thought I was just here tohang out.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Now I'm caught up in some meeting for planning
something A lot.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, I'm simultaneously like hold up, I
was asking the universe forsomething and these people are
literally talking about the samekind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like what's in our food.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
You know how's our government behaving, like what's
really going on in our reality.
How can we make the world abetter place?
The same stuff I would talk tomy homies about, that's what
they plan in.
The same thing I was asking tobe.
You know how can I be used in abetter way?
So I stick with it.
Fast forward a few months.
We have like 20 people comingto each of these talks whatever

(30:34):
30 people coming to each ofthese talks, and somebody is
like the leader of the group,even though we didn't really
have a leader this person Iconsidered the one.
They're like why don't we throwa party to give back to
everybody that's been coming tothese events?
Everybody's like cool For thepeople.
They're just like Mike, don'tyou know a bunch of DJs and
musicians and stuff.
At the time I literally went 10years thinking why do I meet

(30:58):
all these talented people?
Because I don't play music.
I don meet all these talentedpeople because I don't play
music.
I don't make music.
Right, I love music, I love art.
But I'd always meet reallytalented people and they'd want
to like oh yo, you play this.
Hey, oh, you make beats.
Hey, yo, you're right.
As soon as I'd be like no, you,it would be like this weird
vibe, like they expect rightlike hold up huh and so like I
was like why do I meet all thesetalented people?
and I got no, really nothing.

(31:19):
I don't have nothing to do withthat.
And so when they said that tome, I was like damn, I kind of
do.
So I reached out to some peopleand next thing I know that this
event comes and they're alllike this is your, you did.
I'm like whoa, what are youdoing?
I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm even calling them like yo,come help, come help.
And they're like you're right.

(31:48):
He's like wait a sec.
And um, hundreds of people camewas really oh wow, that's
pretty cool.
And uh, it to this day was oneof the best vibes I felt at a
party in my life.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Still it's a.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Really that's gotta be a good feeling right, yeah
and um, that day kind of changedmy life.
From that one day, nice, Ispent a year telling people I'm
not a promoter, because theykept you know, know, aren't you
the guy that throws shows?
I want to go to your shows, Iwant to play your shows.
I'm like I don't throw shows.
It was just one show, but aftera while I realized that like,
okay, the universe is talking,and so it's been about 15 years

(32:16):
now from that and I've thrown alittle under 100 shows.
So it's like it became.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Man, you should be super proud of that.
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, and it's something that I can say I'm
actually good at and that Ibelieve in and that I love, and
that it brings joy to me, and Isee it brings joy to others, and
so it's literally what I askedfor, and all I had to do was
just trust myself to follow intothat.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
And the universe kind of did the rest.
So I'm real blessed, I'm reallucky to be here, um, and uh,
yeah, that's that's, that's,that's nice.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I love that man, I love how you got you got deep
real quick.
You know, kind of painted thepicture.
You know you had to build theoutside and then, uh, you know
you had to add some color to itand really help us understand.
You know where you're comingfrom and it's cool to get
another piece, you know, of apuzzle, because everybody is

(33:14):
just a puzzle, you know, and youknow there's certain people
that you get, you know that youhave the fortunate enough chance
to, you know, step out of theircomfort zone a little bit and
maybe have a conversation or twothat maybe they've like been

(33:50):
either wanting to have for awhile or like have been avoiding
, you know, for a while.
Um, there's so many differentthings that are going on in our
head that, like we're trying tounderstand, and I think talking
about some of them if not mostof them is is really helpful to

(34:11):
everyone because, you know, ifyou know, there's nothing better
than knowing that, knowing likeother people are going through
the same experience than you andkind of made it to the other
side just like you did, you know, and you know that feeling of

(34:32):
just like accomplishment my momon, and like you know if I would
have went to her and been like,hey, ma, you know, do you want
to be on the podcast?
She probably would have beenlike hell.
No, just because you know, um,it's just you have to get to a

(34:54):
certain point where you are justlike open and vulnerable and I
think, as an artist, that's kindof helped me build a tough skin
with that and I'm supergrateful for that.
And I'm super grateful for mymom, you know, hopping on the
podcast and doing what she did.

(35:14):
Just wanted to express myappreciation for, uh, for you
know all of those things, um,and and you know, there was
something else I did want tobring up um, you know, when it
comes to baltimore hip-hop, youknow who?
Are there any artists that youeither want to like shed some

(35:38):
light to or want to?
You know?
Um, just let know that they'redoing, you know, a good job and
that they're they're puttingputting work in sheesh.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well that I mean that's always a tough question
because, um, you know, again,like this is not rehearsed, I
don't, I don't, I'm not onrehearsed interviews, so it's a
lot like I'm prepared for thesequestions and so I'll just type
on my head and there's alwaysgoing to be someone that, uh,
that I leave out no, even if Iname my own top five favorite
artists.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It might be a different top five tomorrow
based on what comes to my mindat the time.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Right um but out of Baltimore right now, um I would
definitely say um Ill Consciousand J Royale right now come to
my mind immediately, simply forthe fact that they're both dope,
dope, dope emcees.
But they're both, you know,getting shows outside of
Baltimore.

(36:35):
They're not just getting showsin other states and other cities
, they're getting shows inEurope, you know what?
I'm saying in other countriesand they're doing features and
getting features fromestablished artists and
legendary hip-hop artists.
So those two guys to me are notonly doing it big for Baltimore

(36:56):
, but doing it big for hip-hopculture in general.
But yeah, baltimore has a lotof great hip hop artists.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
What about maybe even outside, if not any other more,
in Baltimore, maybe just likeany artist that maybe has
inspired you a little bit morerecently?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I would say EZ Jackson is another Baltimore
artist.
I find his music personally tobe inspirational.
If you don't know, go listen toBe Great.
I found his music inspirationalbefore.
Be Great, but go listen to.
Be Great by EZ Jackson if youwant some inspiration.
Nice, real shit.

(37:41):
But no, it's a lot, of a lot ofBaltimore artists.
That's dope.
Um, a kid named Raph Alpha canreally spit, oh cool, and he'll
be on our next event.
That, um, by the time this airs, would have already happened.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So, but also when is it though?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
just just drop it.
November the 1st.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Okay, november the 1st yeah, this should, but maybe
we'll show like a snippet orsomething that'll be a little
earlier, to kind of under therug we're bringing we're lucky
to be bringing Blue in Exilefrom LA oh shit and Fashion from
Fresno and they'll be comingthrough on their Love the

(38:19):
Ominous World tour comingthrough Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
We'll have three rooms of music going on all
night, so it'll be kind of likea rave atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
With hip-hop kind of as the centerpiece.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
A little bit of.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
But that's kind of what I do with Prism.
It's like not to sidetrack, butkind of to answer a question.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
No, no.
This is a good point.
I like where you're going withthis.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Earlier you said something about um, you don't
have to fit into any box.
Oh well, it's like when I firststarted doing this, it was
mostly just dance music, and Isaw instantly the power of that,
because I was coming from anactivist background and I was
like, okay, at first I was likeI'm not a promoter and I was
because, like, I was aboutactivism.
But then when I seen it likethis is a vehicle that can bring
so many people together, I waslike what is activism if it's

(39:03):
only 20 people that know stuff,sharing the same information
with one another?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You just got the same group ofpeople going out and doing
protests, same group of peoplehanging out doing you're not
reaching the world, you knowright.
And so these events were ways tobring lots of people together,
and so I saw the power in thatand again like not that, I even
went after it.
It was what I was brought toand I was like, okay, well, this

(39:25):
works for me.
And I was like this can reallyhelp build community.
And I found that the dancemusic was better for that,
because when people are rappingor singing, we tend to look
right at the stage.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
We don't look at each other.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
But when the DJ comes , comes on a real dance party,
everybody starts looking at eachother.
They dance and they talk andwhatever they're doing is djs on
.
There's no, there's not muchvocals.
So I was like yo.
This is powerful for forbuilding relationships in the
crowd oh, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
I like that, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
That's what I wanted to see continue.
But I was like how do I bringwhat I love, which is hip-hop,
into this so that I canrepresent of myself while I'm
doing this thing?
That's for the community ifthat makes any kind of sense.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Oh, definitely.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I still love the rave , don't get me wrong, but hip
hop's just like more what Iwould— More grounded with it A
more deeper connection.
So I'm like, how do I bring thatin here?
And I was realizing that a lotof the kids in the dance scene
still liked a lot of dope hiphop.
But if you told them come to ahip hop show, they wouldn't go,

(40:32):
because the vibe that they thinkabout when they hear the word
hip hop they think it's probablysomething that they don't
really rock with.
So I'm like, nah, these peopleare dope.
If I put them at the top of theparty, not in the beginning,
when people are still sober, notat the end, when everybody's
tired, but I put them right inthe middle when everybody

(40:53):
because I know this, let's keepit real.
All right, we're going to getunfiltered for a second.
Let's keep it real.
If you're the DJ and you gotthe prime slot where half your
crowd is on molly and they'retripping right, everyone gonna
love your set unless you're,unless you suck yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
So it's like people go home like yo killed it, yo
killed it, yo killed it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
It's because you got the, you got the sweet spot to
sit inside.
You didn't have to even reallykill it.
You just had to not fuck it up,you had.
It's like.
It's like being a quarter.
It's like brock purdy on the49ers last year managed the team
.
You got so much talent aroundyou just manage the team and
you're straight.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
The team should be the one to be able to that's the
prime slot in a party, you justgot to manage it.
Now, if you're Tom Bradypainting Manning in the prime
slot, well, that's when the realmagic happens, like that, and
so we want to do that, right.
So, anyway, I'm like all right,I'm going to get these rappers
that, I think, is seriously dope, that I'm fans of, and we're
going to not really interruptthe dance party too much.

(41:45):
We're going to give it like 20minutes of a straight hip hop
set at midnight at these parties.
And at first, the first fewtimes it happened, the rappers
would come over to me and belike are you sure it's not going
to fuck the vibe up?
And I'm like yo trust me,they're going to act weird at
first, but after they hear theway you're rapping, they're
going to get drawn in.

(42:06):
And it would happen one afteranother.
It would happen one afteranother Because there's detail
and attention.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
There's attention to detail Because it's real hip-hop
.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, because when they hear real hip-hop they're
like, oh he really spit, oh shit.
So now they brought into that.
And so now here we are, yearslater, and that's just like
that's how I do Prism.
Now you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So now the people that come to Prism, they're not
even taking it as a new thingnow.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Now they come knowing that's part of the show.
So now they're excited.
And when there's a rapper onthere they never heard of,
they're excited because they'relike yo, we trust that he's only
going to book dope acts.
You know what?
I mean At least the people thatcome Dope in the opinion of the
people that come to my shows,which is what really kind of
does matter, though, right,that's all that counts, right?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
You got to follow what's in you and then what you
come to find is there's alwaysmore people in the world that
feel what you're feeling, thatare resonating on the same
frequency as you're resonatingon, and they're going to be the
ones that's drawing to you.
And you got to let everybodykind of just get in where they
fit in out here, becauseeverybody does have somewhere
where they fit in.
So, yeah, you know that's allyou can go for.
It's not a bad thing at all.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, man, dude, I love that Dude.
We got into some really coolstuff.
You hear that oh shit, somereally cool stuff.
You hear that yeah, oh shit.
Hello, yeah, is this theyounger Michael Morstein?

(43:44):
Okay, okay, yeah, actually,perfect time.
I'm not.
You know, your older self wouldlike to tell you a few things.
All right, here you go.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Damn.
Get real with me.
When they first tell you aboutBitcoin back in 2009,.
Buy that shit, bro.
Buy as much of that shit aspossible, bro.
You'll be straight.
You'll never have to work again.
I don't know where you took that, yeah, other than that, I'll
just say keep your head up, itgets better.

(44:19):
You're going to do a lot ofdope shit, bro, a lot more dope
shit than you probably thinkyou're going to do, so it
probably doesn't make sense forme to tell you now.
But yeah, just trust yourself,believe in yourself, and that's
pretty much it.
Nice, oh, yeah, and do, andyeah, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Nice, oh yeah, and do this podcast with Andrew
Cornwall.
Yo, I hope you had a pen youwere writing all that down.
All right, love you, kid, peaceman.
You know that's it makes youthink.
Right, you got to kind of getin that space.
You're like okay, what have Ilearned in my entire life here

(44:59):
that I can put into a uhconversation, right, man?
So I have a few other questionsfor you here, and what we're
going to do is it's called rapidfire and I'm going to ask you,
like an either or question, or,like you know, pick, like you
know, a topping, you know, onyour favorite topping on your

(45:22):
pizza, or something like that.
Okay, but a little bit moreintricate, okay, okay, okay, do
you understand the rules?
I think so.
Okay, all right, all right,here we go.
What's one thing you can't livewithout?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Sushi, god and hip hop.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh, right to the point, there you go, it's okay.
Okay, any superpower, whatwould it be?

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Flight Teleportation.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yes, there you go, you go, okay, daytime or
nighttime, nighttime, yes forsure.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Favorite kind of flower favorite kind of uh
passion.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
There you go I love that okay favorite harry potter
film or book damn all right.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So I haven't seen all of the harry potter slipping
about.
It's crazy about a month ago.
My girlfriend who loves harrypotter is like you haven't seen
them all.
We need to go through and watchthem all, so we started
watching them recently.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Okay, um, but I get back to me on that one, when you
have to say the first one orthe second one, probably for me
okay for sure, for sure.
All right, what's the mostunique instrument?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Damn, the most unique instrument.
I probably don't want to knowthe name of it, but I've seen
crazy long stringed instruments,but I wouldn't say they're more
unique.
I feel like so many things areunique in their own kind of way.
For sure, for sure.
Yeah, I couldn't name it.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, we'll skip that one.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
There's this stringed instrument that's really long,
it's like Japanese, and somebodyhas one in Baltimore that
brought one to a prism.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Damn, that's pretty cool, I thought that was really
cool.
There you go.
I'll go with that.
Okay, the long string, the longstring.
Okay.
If you had to listen, or yougot to listen to one song for
the rest of your life, whatwould it be?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
sheesh.
Well, I would never want tohear that because I think
whatever song it was eventuallywould start to I wouldn't like
it.
Anything you heard over andover again would suck, but I'm
going to answer your questionstill.
I just have to preface it withthat, okay it.
Preface it with that, okay, um,it would probably be um black
star respiration.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Pete rock remix nice featuring black thought oh,
there you go, man, that's a goodone.
Okay, you ready planes, trainsor automobiles where?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
you planes.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
There you go, okay.
Favorite color purple nice,okay, what's one?
Oh wait, okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Favorite member of the beatles I don't really know
too much about each individualmember.
That sounds crazy because I waswatching yellow submarine, the
cartoon, as a kid.
My parents were into all thatkind of stuff.
Um, I'm gonna say ringo star,because everybody always say his
name is cool.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Right, there you go.
Okay, Ringo.
Shout out to Ringo.
One on the board for him.
All right, what is my spiritanimal?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Your spirit animal.
Oh boy, Sabertooth tiger.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yes, dog, thank you for that, I feel it.
I felt one 50-second sabertoothtiger for a second.
All right, you walk into thecasino right now.
What's the first thing you'replaying?
But you know, money aside, justthe game itself.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
So a little, I've never actually been in a casino
outside of a slot machine and.
I've only done that, I believe,one time, but I would probably
say if, with the way thequestion was asked, blackjack,
or go over to the sports bettingsection and check that out oh,
there you go, okay, you readybest.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Duo kobe and shack.
There you go right to the point.
Okay, favorite pokemon damn man.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
See my um.
My beatles card is gettingpulled, now my nerd card getting
pulled come on, charizard,there you go.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
All right, all right, all right.
Okay, favorite subject inschool.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Sheesh, I didn't like any subjects in school, but in
college it was philosophy.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Nice.
Okay, if you could pick anyseason all year round, what
would it be?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Summer.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Fall, fall.
There you go.
Oh well, then we're here, man.
We're here now.
All right.
What's one thing you've alwayswanted to do, but haven't?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
yet One thing I've always wanted to do but haven't
man Probably go visit somewherein Asia or Africa?
All right yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
I'm going to try, man , let's help make that happen.
Shoot, yeah, but next time youtalk to him, hopefully he's been
to Asia, all right, all right.
If you could spend 24 hourswith any celebrity, who would it
be?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
That's crazy.
Um, I guess this.
This name just comes to my headright now Jay electronica.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, I like the way you took that.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Okay, worst pizza topping Pepperoni or mushrooms.
No, mushrooms Take them out.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
All right, Doritos or Pringles Depends on the flavor.
The regular.
Doritos or the sour cream andonion Pringles.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Okay, spinner's or Spreewell's, spreewell's wells
there you go.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Okay, you ready coffee or tea.
Um tea, there you go, man.
Thank you.
That rapid fire section can bea little dicey, you know yeah,
that's fun isn't it?
it's pretty cool.
I asked, uh, I try and askeverybody, you know, and and I'm
I'm trying to change the, thequestions up a little bit as we

(51:03):
go to uh, let's see here, man,you know, I really appreciate
you taking the time to sit withme and go through some, some
deep thought here and uh reallyjust have a cool conversation,
you know, and uh, luckily, man,we've been able to to do that a
lot recently and um, uh, we justwent to the toby uh wig we show

(51:25):
, um recently and it was uh atthe lyric right, the that was at
the kenn Center, yeah, the.
Kennedy Center.
Man, and it was just, it was soeye-opening and to just be able
to understand.
You know what an artist can doand like, have that whole

(51:48):
orchestra behind you, dude,that's got to feel so powerful.
You know how do you feel.
You know what did you get fromthe experience itself?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
and I thought it was phenomenal, so I seen.
I seen toby live a few times, Ithink he has one of the best
live shows.
Uh, in in live music, as far aslike um from from just the
musical and entertainment value,just a great stage performance,
great music, music,choreography.
That's unlike whatever youconsider typical.

(52:21):
So he's just phenomenal in hisown lane with it, and so to see
him at Kennedy Center, he didn'thave all the dancers and things
going on which are more likeagain, it's more of like a
ballet type of thing going on,but what's the word I'm looking
for?
Interpretive dance, oh for sure.

(52:41):
But yeah, so at the KennedyCenter that was kind of not
there because they had this likehuge 50 person orchestra or
whatever.
So that was fire.
I just thought that wasbeautiful.
You know, it was beautiful tosee hip hop on that-hop on that
stage at the Kennedy Center.
I don't know if this is why,but I do know that Q-Tip curates

(53:01):
the hip-hop, or a lot of thehip-hop, for the Kennedy Center,
so maybe his influence iscausing that.
That's cool.
Either way, it's amazing.
It's just great because I justlove music and I think most of
us just love music.
It's great because I just lovemusic and I think most of us
like, just love music and so youhear classical music and
hip-hop, kind of kind of meeting, um, it makes a beautiful sound

(53:22):
.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
So I just thought that was awesome yeah, man, I I
was really blown away by justeverything about it and and it
and it really helped me.
You know it, it put the bar upfor, like, where the dreams and
the hopes and and and theaspirations can be.
You know, like it just takesthat bar and it, you know, and
it puts it up a little bithigher and I'm, I'm proud, uh,

(53:46):
that it does so that that way,once you know you get there, you
man, like you, know, he was.
You remember he was taking it in.
He was just like he was thereto the last second.
You know, like people were justclearing out.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, he was running down the front of the stage
doing the high five thing he waslike hey I'll put this through
the half out that he's running,running by everybody.
Yeah, it was definitely a highpoint man, yeah, it was crazy
the limits of where you could gois is on.
There's no boundaries.
You know what I mean.
Like, um, I don't know if youheard the story a few years ago,
but they had these B-boys go tothe Vatican and break dance for

(54:16):
the Pope.
This is like a 20-year-oldstory now.
It's like in the late 90s, Iguess.
This happened and they askedthe Pope what he thought of it
and he said, oh, this is a giftfrom God that he thought was
supposed to be shared with theworld.
And so again, like B-boying isbeing treated like that.
We got Toby, I like that.

(54:39):
We got uh uh toby, and I'msorry if I mispronounce his name
uh, wigware and wigway umperforming at the kennedy center
, khanuk namar has also done it.
Um, somebody else did it toorecently.
I forget who it was, but it'sbeen a few people that have done
it at the kennedy center manthat's yeah, so look out for,
for anybody else who's doing it.
Yeah, check the kennedy center,uh events and uh you'll see hip
hop stuff going on there reallyamazing stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, awesome man well, dude, you know, uh, I I
couldn't have pictured a betterconversation and really just
grateful for your presence andyour clear thought and the way
that we're able to, you know,take some small ideas and turn
them into some, some big dreamsand some big missions.

(55:22):
And, man, I gotta, I gotta say,dude, I'm, I'm super
appreciative of everything thatthat you've, that you've done,
and the the, the way, the barthat you've set, you know, for
other people and promoters andand just musicians and artists

(55:43):
themselves you know, to set that, that bar.
And do you have any, any lastminute thoughts or ideas that
you want to to to get out?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I guess, yeah, just, I'm just piggyback off what you
just said and kind of just, Iguess, yeah, I'm going to just
piggyback off what you just saidand kind of just, I guess close
it out like this.
A lot of the conversation we'vehad is going to mirror what a
lot of conversations go on inthis space, and that is that
there is no limits, there is nohighest heights.
You can always go higher thanwhatever the highest is.

(56:15):
Just believe in yourself andall that talk, which is the
truth and it's really important,and I think we highlight that a
lot of times, because that'ssomething we don't believe in.
But I also want to say thisit's not always about that.
Or, as Kanye West said, if Iaim for the stars, I might land
on the cloud right about that.

(56:37):
Or, as kanye west said, if Iaim for the stars, I might land
on the cloud, right.
So just do what you do the way.
A butterfly is a butterfly.
a bird flies in the sky a sharkswims in the water, you know, I
mean a sea lion waddles along,does whatever it does just be,
whatever you do, and whether youend up being an artist making,
making beautiful music in yourhome that gets therapeutic for

(56:59):
yourself because you have acreative outlet, or you're an
artist that makes music for yourlocal musicians, there's local
painters, there's local dancers,there's local poets, everything
and they're in every town andthose people are giving the joy

(57:30):
to their town, to theircommunity, to their tribe.
And so if you're blessed enoughto be one of those people, never
look down on that because youdidn't make it famous, so
there's no limit to it but atthe same time really be present
with the blessing that it isjust to do anything with it at

(57:51):
all.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Man love that.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Thank you so much for breaking that down and it
really did make me appreciativeof you know, the people and the
family and the friends that Ihave, and I'm glad that you're
one of them, no doubt, brother.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Blessed to know you as well.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, man, Thanks for being here and for that we have
this episode of the respectingperspectives podcast.
We'll see y'all on the flipside.
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