December 2, 2024 • 39 mins
What would it take for you to truly respect the perspectives of those around you? Our latest episode, recorded live from The Watermelon Room in Baltimore, dives into the art of understanding both ourselves and others. I, Andrew AWALL, recount my journey of finding inspiration after the loss of beloved artists like Mac Miller, and how becoming my own favorite artist shaped my creative path. Influenced by the likes of Caskey, J. Cole, Eminem, A$AP Rocky, 3-6 Mafia and Lil Peep, I share insights from Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now" and discuss the importance of staying present to craft a meaningful legacy.
Our conversation explores the transformative essence of music—an ever-evolving art form that thrives on collaboration and innovation. With heartfelt gratitude, I celebrate the mentors and collaborators who have played pivotal roles in my creative endeavors. Hear inspiring stories, like Chris from the UK, whose unexpected connection over an eight-second Snapchat clip serves as a testament to the power of fleeting moments. We acknowledge everyone involved in the creation of AWALL's logo design and give special shoutouts to the incredible producers, vocal instructors, and videographers who have enriched my artistic journey.
Together, we navigate the concept of respecting perspectives, pondering the interconnectedness of experiences akin to social media networks. Reflecting on Don Miguel Ruiz's "The Four Agreements," we delve into the wisdom of living life proudly and lovingly. Discover how embracing vulnerability and openness helps us challenge our narratives and gain a deeper understanding of ourselves and others. Join us as we explore these themes and more, inviting listeners to participate in the Future of Artists Summit in Orlando (organized by rapper Caskey and producer Anonymass), where creativity and community intersect.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome to Respecting Perspectives, a podcast where
you must respect your ownperspective before you can
understand, before you can evenbegin to understand others.
(01:01):
My name is Andrew AWOL, artistCornwall, and thank you for
joining me.
We're coming up to the firstround of podcasts here and it's
feeling good.
We're at the Watermelon Roomhere in Baltimore, good old
(01:24):
Balmore, maryland, somewhere onthe East Coast there, all right,
if you know, you know, okay,and I want to.
There's one thing I really wantto point out, and that is that
we have a dedicated line justfor people to call and dude.
(01:48):
You can call and leave amessage about whatever you want.
Okay, you know, maybe you gotsome poetry you just wrote and
you're trying to.
You know, you're just trying toget it out into the world a
little bit, a little offering.
You know, call and just andjust drop a few lines, maybe a
little freestyle.
I know some cats who you knowhey, you know who I'm talking
(02:09):
about.
No-transcript Call about somequestions, anything, some guests
(02:33):
that you would like to seeright here.
I do have a little bit of asurprise for y'all later, but
that's later.
So we're going to focus on now,and when I talk about focusing
on the now.
It makes me think of a bookthat I read called the Power of
(02:54):
Now by Eckhart Tolle, and it isa life changer.
It really makes you think aboutyour time here.
It really makes you think aboutyour time here and the fact
that you only do have a certainamount of time on this earth.
Now you will leave a legacy,but in order to leave a legacy,
(03:23):
you have to find yourself in thenow to be able to leave
footprints for others.
You know, you got to understandyour own footprint.
(03:49):
You got to study it, everylittle indentation and where's
it going.
It's got me thinking about whatinspires me.
I'm going to talk aboutinspiration a lot, because it is
something that drives my lifewhen writing music, thinking
about and hearing, being able torevisit some of these musical
(04:11):
pieces back in the day really isa powerful tool to have at our
fingertips.
And just to name a few, you gotMac.
I know what it's like.
And just to name a few, I mean,you got Mac.
You know Mac was.
I know what it's like to loseyour favorite artist man.
(04:33):
That can feel it's a hard one.
You can feel hurt, you can feeldespair, makes you kind of feel
like they left you withoutleaving that note, just with
(04:56):
more questions sometimes thananswers, man, man.
And at first it was a challengeto to be able to find
inspiration, kind of knowingthat it was not going to be
there, like I could depend on itfrom him, and soon start to
(05:20):
realize that I mean, I have tobe my own.
I feel like as an artist, youhave to be your own favorite
artist, and I'm not saying thatin like an egotistical way.
I'm saying that in appreciatingyour gift of artistry and
(05:52):
understanding where it's comingfrom, what it's doing and where
it can go, and it's it's huge toreally be able to harness that
and understand that you have tobe able to provide for yourself
(06:12):
as an artist in emotionalsituations.
There are certain songs that Ihave that make me feel a certain
way.
So if I know I'm like lackingthat at a certain time, you know
I can, I can prescribe that tomyself in a song and that's deep
(06:32):
.
I'll mention Kasky man that's.
That's one of my good friends,a brother who I've, 10 years ago
, heard a few songs and was justblown away and I reached out to
(06:52):
him and was able to continuallymake a connection with him to
this day and I'm so grateful Iknow you'll hear this at some
point, cass and I'm so gratefulfor your journey and your being
able to to really just harnesssome hard times that you had in
(07:15):
your life and turn them intotriumph out of the tribulations.
Man, it's deep, you know.
I don't even have to go throughsome of the things that some of
my homies went through toreally actually see what it does
and how it can hurt someone andalso heal them at the same time
(07:41):
.
Speaking of Kasky, him andAnonymous worked together to
create a summit called theFuture of Artists Summit and
it's happening in about two orthree months I believe it's
August 31st to September 1st,and it's down in Orlando,
(08:02):
Florida, and I highly suggestthat you look into it and be
there.
The last one, last year, wasmonumental and we were able to
forge connections that haveblossomed all around the United
States.
And now, when there's a tour orthis or that or something's
(08:25):
going on, we got homies in spots.
Now Show up to Minnesota andsome shit With the gang.
Who else Gosh?
J Cole, Huge inspiration, allthe production.
(08:45):
He does mean like him, and Imean like eminem.
I'll put that in there for sure.
You know, his just attention todetail and craft is is huge for
me.
I have to hear that you're likeflexing some sort of muscle and
maybe you don't even know themuscle that you're flexing, but
(09:06):
it's happening.
Let's see here who else.
Uh, asap rocky man.
One of my favorite concerts wasasap rocky and brianna, down at
the what was the rural farmsarena in baltimore, and that man
that really let me see that,like you, could fill a freaking
arena with people.
Man, let's see here who else.
(09:28):
Oh, lil Peep man.
Moment of silence for Lil Peepman.
(09:51):
Just being able to hone in on asound in your basement with one
or two friends, sometimes evenjust by yourself, pressing a few
buttons and getting thoselevels to the right amounts, man
, I'm so grateful for Lil Peepand his music.
It's a huge influence on thesound that I have in the near
(10:13):
future.
Three, six Mafia oh man, theytaught me how to.
They taught me that there's aformula to making music and that
little, you know, littlesections upon little sections
can create something hypnotizing.
Super grateful for them, man.
(10:36):
But you know, let's go back tolittle people and being able to
create your own defined anddistinct sound.
I'm going to kind of segue intoan artist that I was speaking
with a few friends about thisweekend Lana Del Rey and gosh
man.
(10:56):
I am so inspired by someone whocan take you with their music
to a specific time, like evenlike a time period.
I mean, like not many artistscan do that, very few, and
that's something that, like Iwould say Billie Eilish does
(11:19):
that as well but to be able tocreate your own musical universe
and someone said that she'sjust making music and she's just
letting us in or on for theride, she's just being her man,
(11:42):
that's pretty cool.
Her music takes me to like the20s and like the 30s and like
the, the industrial revolution.
She's got that, that heart andthat soul in her voice.
That is is like, really it'smagical.
(12:06):
That's all I got to say.
It's like some damn magic outof hat.
I'll tell you that man, I'mstudying that and you know it
makes me think.
This past weekend, with somefriends you know, talking about
creating your own world, we wentand saw that movie, a Quiet
(12:30):
Place, and I've been waiting forI'm not the biggest scary movie
buff, okay, I'll tell you that,I'll put that out there.
But there are some that really,you know piqued interest, like
M Night Shyamalan and guys likethat.
You know people like that andit's man let's see here.
(12:53):
But A Quiet Place and it'scrazy to know the guy from the
Office, john Krasinski createdthat.
If you have the resources andyou're imaginative enough, you
can really in this world liveand create out anything.
I mean, look at what we'redoing here.
(13:14):
I mean this is my own littleworld, honestly, and it's cool
to have everybody here to get toconnect with me on so many
different things.
(13:34):
But yeah, back to A Quiet Place.
Just really, the whole ideabehind it is just amazing.
Creatures that attack sound,and just think about it.
That's like from a musicianstandpoint too.
You know, like you ain't makingmusic okay, ain't happening.
(13:55):
I was reading about how theymade that movie and a bunch of
articles about ai came up andyou know, know me and some of
the homies have been talkingabout it and you know you hear
about AI and a lot of people putlike a negative connotation
(14:16):
behind it or negative setting ortone to it.
But I gotta think about all theother things in our human
experience that were levels ofgrowth.
(14:37):
So think about like theinvention of the wheel, okay,
than like electricity.
But let's even go back fartherto fire.
Think about how many people andthings, people, places and
(15:07):
things had to burn or get burntbefore we figured out how to
harness fire.
Fire but then, once we did,that was a game changer.
(15:31):
So think about all the thingsand the people that had to get
burnt before being able toharness that, and I feel like AI
might be similar.
There's going to be someaspects where it's going to
maybe seem is it moralistic?
(15:55):
As far as consciousness goes,and depending on what is going
to have to get burnt, I thinkyou have to touch the handle.
You got to touch it with yourfinger first before you grab it.
So I think it's reallyimportant what happens in the
(16:20):
next, I'd say, 10 to 20 yearsthat will shape what artificial
intelligence becomes and how itmakes me think about how it and
(16:52):
fake bots and voices that aregenerated.
I mean, I only look at it assomething to remix.
That's all music is anyway.
It's just a sound that wasremixed to something else, that
was made to something different.
I love when you hear a song andyou think it's the original and
(17:17):
then, years later, you hear theoriginal and you're like what
the hell.
It makes you think about allthe different versions that had
to happen before that.
It makes you think about allthe different versions that had
to happen before that.
Yeah, and I have faith that thetrue artists out there will be
able to harness its abilitiesand use it for what it is
(17:46):
intended for, and I'm excitedfor the future of it.
Honestly, I'm ready for it.
Me and the team are workingendlessly to use it to connect
with, with the music and andcreate visuals and whole bunches
(18:10):
of things, but it's not takinganyone's job, I'll tell you.
It's actually creating more, tobe honest, but we won't dive
into that.
I wanted to give a big shout outto a few people.
This is the time in the podcastwhere I tell you where most of
this art came from and the logosand some of the ideas.
(18:34):
The logo up at the top herethat's in the middle was, and
that you saw in the verybeginning here, was created by
Creative Squeeze, some homiesout in California who man a few
revisions and it turned out.
(18:54):
It turned into something that Icouldn't even have ever
imagined and it is my heart andmy soul.
You will see me puttingstickers up in your neighborhood
in the near future.
Okay, I'm proud of that and I'mletting you know.
Thank you, creative Squeeze,really for your patience and
(19:18):
your your let's see here yourbeing able to take an idea and
turn it into something tangible.
Thank you, got the homies overat TechPod, that's Holden and
Chris man.
Let me tell you a story aboutChris.
(19:39):
He is from the UK and he saw aneight-second clip on Snapchat
of me in a studio singing and hewas motivated enough from that
(19:59):
eight seconds to find out who Iwas, because he geographically,
you know, found it.
So he didn't have the name oranything like that, or at least
my information, and he wentthrough some blanks to find me.
And I'm not even going to gointo detail the exact lengths,
but let me tell you it was likea detective on a case, and when
(20:21):
he found me and he told me thestory, I thought it was, I
thought he was bogus, I didn'tbelieve him.
I'm like who is this catfishand where did you come from?
And so then I started to dig.
We had a few phone calls and,you know, he ended up being a
real person and it proved to methat if eight seconds of a clip,
(20:47):
you know this is deep stuffright here.
If 8 seconds of a clip caninspire someone to find that
source and let them know howmuch it meant to them from
(21:09):
across the freaking world Likethat gave me the most hope in my
music reaching the world.
So thank you for that.
Thank you for that, thank youfor that.
(21:36):
So let's go.
I'm not going to get you know.
That's one for the grandkidsAll 100 of them.
I want to thank ChrisalenePetropoulos, who was my vocal
instructor.
Without her, I would not have astrong grasp on my emotions and
(22:01):
finding out that you can't singand cry at the same time.
So pick one.
Then we got the three.
We got the three headed monster.
Okay, brandon Lackey, fromlineup room studios on Saratoga
(22:22):
down in Baltimore, thank you foreverything you've done and your
attention to detail, foreverything you've done and your
attention to detail and you have.
You are one of those engineersthat moves and grows.
(22:43):
With an artist.
We don't just make the samething every time.
We make something, somethingdifferent every single time.
I step in there and that is agift.
Yeah, brandon, thank you.
(23:04):
Next, you got Nate, nateMiddleman from Above Ground
Records and Nate has taught methat the building the foundation
of the sound, and he he isreally is a wizard with like the
busing and like where, the,where the, the, you know the
effect goes in the chain, andhe's really taught me a lot
(23:27):
about pro tools and how toreally harness a sound and then,
once you find it being able touse it to the best of its
ability, knocking it out thepark every single time.
So thank you.
And then I have the man, themyth, the swamp, lady legend D9,
(23:55):
chris Hansberger.
You really are the mostcinematic musician I know.
Your sounds are beyond, beyondthis world and you really helped
me experiment and helped mestep outside of the box, and I
(24:16):
have faith that you know thestuff that we are making now is
going to be some of my favoritestuff and some stuff that I know
I put the most attention towhen it came to sound design too
, yeah, so thank you and shoutout to some of the videographers
(24:36):
.
We got Luke Lukey, bird ShotRewind and Breaking Molds, and I
got Light Street Productions.
We have one in the bank rightnow we're going to do a premiere
at my show a little bit laterthis year where we really
(24:58):
stepped out of our comfort zoneall of us and created something
that I've always wanted to do.
I mean, it was on the bucketlist, so check that thing off,
man, yeah, I'm superappreciative for you, for you
guys, rob, rob SilverProductions, and let's see, here
(25:22):
I think I'd thank mom and dad,you know, of course that'll
bring that one out.
And last but not least, who youmight hear a little more from
is my homie, matthew Gruby.
He has been helping me side byside with every decision in this
podcast and the attention todetail is unlike any other.
(25:46):
And you will be successful.
I promise that the grind thatyou have and the smile on your
face is going to take you far.
All right, you might hear alittle more from him in the
future, but I'm not going togive any spoilers.
(26:09):
But I got to pee.
Yeah, nice, skater 4, like seeyou later.
4.
She wants to learn.
Enough for her.
She wants to Skater 4, like seeyou later.
4.
She wants a skateboard.
(26:32):
Oh, some songs just get stuckin your head.
You know, man, let's get, uh,let's get down to brass tacks
here.
Let's get down to brass tackshere.
(26:54):
I want to dig a little bit intowhat respecting perspectives is
and how it came to fruition.
It encompasses a bird's eyeview of life itself and gives
(27:21):
you a viewpoint that you haven'tever seen, or maybe it's the
only perspective you've seen.
But understanding that we allare having our own journey and
(27:48):
we're the center of it, how canyou still be at the center, but
also on the outside?
Throughout this mountainouspath that I've taken to finding
(28:16):
what this is, I've really beenable to discover how to bring
together a web of experiencesthat are all interconnected
somehow.
Maybe three links, five links,maybe 500 links.
(28:43):
You know you can compare it tolike your connected friends on
like Facebook.
You know the people that youknow, but the other people know.
How can you influence people?
Man, think about influence,influence, and now, in today's
(29:11):
world, influence can really comeout of nowhere.
But I think that's what we'remissing is that deep connection
with your influences.
And you're fluent.
You know Influences.
Influent, you know, andunderstanding the struggles of
(29:44):
the world as a whole and as anindividual, and, I think,
understanding others' challenges, and it really comes down to
struggle.
How can you learn about yourown?
(30:07):
You know how can you learnabout your own, and thinking
about how your best day could besomeone's worst, or your worst
day could be someone's best.
Yeah, that's a deep one.
You really have to think aboutthat.
(30:32):
And it helps me to really digdown deep to my heart and my
soul and what lies there andwhere it comes from.
(30:54):
And it helps me understandwhere other people are coming
from and why they say the thingsthat they say and do the things
that they do.
Helps me read people, helps meread situations Just
understanding my own situationand think about the different
(31:14):
struggles that are dividedbetween different generations
(31:36):
and different age groups havedifferent things that they have
to be conscious of and that theyhave to put effort into
creating a path that they can beproud of.
And through that, I thinkself-discovery is at the center
(32:07):
of respecting perspectives.
Man, it feels good to reallyjust open up about something
that means so much to me and Ihope that throughout this
journey, y'all can see it how Isee it and how others see it.
(32:29):
I want to read something from anartist friend of mine, kasky,
who I spoke about earlier.
He's not just asinger-songwriter but he is also
a poem writer and a visualartist as well, and I want to
read a poem.
The title of the book is FearDoes Not Belong here by Brandon
(33:12):
Kasky.
And we're just going to flip toa page Final goodbye.
Bitterness resides in me, likean old, angry tenant whose pores
drip forgottenness, remindingme of the way rejection smells A
(33:44):
tainted assortment ofmisfortunes, carrying their
stories from one home to another, coveting the neighborhood,
renaming streets and changinglandmarks until I can't make it
to Mr Jim's comfortably.
What holds you here with suchvigor?
A monk spoke to me With thecracks of his eyes, warning me
to let you go Like a bad lover.
And oh how you have loved mebad.
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So when I release you intoNovember's wind, return not with
your glass, apologies, no,leave me with the weight of
eternity and find new loverswhose homes to destroy.
Oh man, that shows you thateven in times of darkness and
(34:33):
hurt and pain, you can stillcreate something beautiful from
it.
Every time I read something outof here, it makes me think of a
different emotion or a differentplace.
It takes me to a place that isjust very open, you know, and I
(34:57):
can take things in and reallylike a sponge, yeah.
So I recommend grabbing one ofthese.
Let me know if you need helpcopping one and we'll.
We'll figure it out.
Fear does not belong here bybrandon caskey love you, bro man
(35:19):
.
And I also have an anotherperson who I really look up to,
mr Mr Don Miguel Ruiz, who isthe author of the Four
Agreements, which is one of myfavorite books in the world
(35:42):
myself and how to live my lifeas proud and from the heart,
with love as possible.
So I have some things that Ipurchased on Amazon and we're
going to flip right into them,straight out the package y'all.
(36:11):
Okay, I mean, it's gonna havelike that, that that new book
smell, if you know what I mean.
Okay, okay.
So I uh, I got a bunch of these.
I basically, once I read thefirst one, I got them all.
(36:34):
So this one is living a life ofawareness.
Okay, daily meditations on theToltec path.
Life of awareness, okay, dailymeditations on the Toltec path.
And this is by Don Miguel RuizJr, his son.
(36:58):
We're just gonna kind of flipthrough and we're gonna pick
something, okay.
Okay, keeping knowledge inperspective.
Knowledge serves an importantpurpose in the dream of the
(37:19):
planet.
It allows us to communicatewith one another from a place of
shared experience.
It also allows us to go beyondour physical limits and use
technology to live morecomfortable lives Without
awareness, knowledge can takeover the mind.
Everything that comes into yourfield of awareness could be
(37:40):
constantly labeled andtranslated.
Based on past experience.
Knowledge also enablesdomestication, a system of
reward and punishment thatoffers your own self-acceptance
and the acceptance of others inexchange for conformity.
This is why the question are youusing knowledge or is knowledge
(38:03):
using you so important?
You are primary and knowledgeis secondary.
Is your mind so overrun by whatyou know, what you have
forgotten the central piece?
Are you using knowledge or isknowledge using you?
Damn, I want you to think aboutthat.
(38:30):
Let's do one more.
I copped a few of these manRight into the perspective.
That's crazy.
The world speaks in wild ways.
We got Don Miguel Ruiz andBarbara Emery's the Three
(38:52):
Questions how to discover andmaster the power within you.
I'm just going to do a shortone here.
Ask yourself what is real.
What is real?
You will know what is real whenyou accept what is not real.
Once we learn to challenge ourstories, we get a sense of who
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we're not Seeing, that we canbecome aware of the truth.
We can see everything from aninfinite point of view.
You're grown accustomed toseeing yourself as a product of
life and perhaps even as avictim of circumstance.
Welcome to Respecting Perspectives, a podcast where
you must respect your ownperspective before you can
understand, before you can evenbegin to understand others.
(01:01):
My name is Andrew AWOL, artistCornwall, and thank you for
joining me.
We're coming up to the firstround of podcasts here and it's
feeling good.
We're at the Watermelon Roomhere in Baltimore, good old
(01:24):
Balmore, maryland, somewhere onthe East Coast there, all right,
if you know, you know, okay,and I want to.
There's one thing I really wantto point out, and that is that
we have a dedicated line justfor people to call and dude.
(01:48):
You can call and leave amessage about whatever you want.
Okay, you know, maybe you gotsome poetry you just wrote and
you're trying to.
You know, you're just trying toget it out into the world a
little bit, a little offering.
You know, call and just andjust drop a few lines, maybe a
little freestyle.
I know some cats who you knowhey, you know who I'm talking
(02:09):
about.
No-transcript Call about somequestions, anything, some guests
(02:33):
that you would like to seeright here.
I do have a little bit of asurprise for y'all later, but
that's later.
So we're going to focus on now,and when I talk about focusing
on the now.
It makes me think of a bookthat I read called the Power of
(02:54):
Now by Eckhart Tolle, and it isa life changer.
It really makes you think aboutyour time here.
It really makes you think aboutyour time here and the fact
that you only do have a certainamount of time on this earth.
Now you will leave a legacy,but in order to leave a legacy,
(03:23):
you have to find yourself in thenow to be able to leave
footprints for others.
You know, you got to understandyour own footprint.
(03:49):
You got to study it, everylittle indentation and where's
it going.
It's got me thinking about whatinspires me.
I'm going to talk aboutinspiration a lot, because it is
something that drives my lifewhen writing music, thinking
about and hearing, being able torevisit some of these musical
(04:11):
pieces back in the day really isa powerful tool to have at our
fingertips.
And just to name a few, you gotMac.
I know what it's like.
And just to name a few, I mean,you got Mac.
You know Mac was.
I know what it's like to loseyour favorite artist man.
(04:33):
That can feel it's a hard one.
You can feel hurt, you can feeldespair, makes you kind of feel
like they left you withoutleaving that note, just with
(04:56):
more questions sometimes thananswers, man, man.
And at first it was a challengeto to be able to find
inspiration, kind of knowingthat it was not going to be
there, like I could depend on itfrom him, and soon start to
(05:20):
realize that I mean, I have tobe my own.
I feel like as an artist, youhave to be your own favorite
artist, and I'm not saying thatin like an egotistical way.
I'm saying that in appreciatingyour gift of artistry and
(05:52):
understanding where it's comingfrom, what it's doing and where
it can go, and it's it's huge toreally be able to harness that
and understand that you have tobe able to provide for yourself
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as an artist in emotionalsituations.
There are certain songs that Ihave that make me feel a certain
way.
So if I know I'm like lackingthat at a certain time, you know
I can, I can prescribe that tomyself in a song and that's deep
(06:32):
.
I'll mention Kasky man that's.
That's one of my good friends,a brother who I've, 10 years ago
, heard a few songs and was justblown away and I reached out to
(06:52):
him and was able to continuallymake a connection with him to
this day and I'm so grateful Iknow you'll hear this at some
point, cass and I'm so gratefulfor your journey and your being
able to to really just harnesssome hard times that you had in
(07:15):
your life and turn them intotriumph out of the tribulations.
Man, it's deep, you know.
I don't even have to go throughsome of the things that some of
my homies went through toreally actually see what it does
and how it can hurt someone andalso heal them at the same time
(07:41):
.
Speaking of Kasky, him andAnonymous worked together to
create a summit called theFuture of Artists Summit and
it's happening in about two orthree months I believe it's
August 31st to September 1st,and it's down in Orlando,
(08:02):
Florida, and I highly suggestthat you look into it and be
there.
The last one, last year, wasmonumental and we were able to
forge connections that haveblossomed all around the United
States.
And now, when there's a tour orthis or that or something's
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going on, we got homies in spots.
Now Show up to Minnesota andsome shit With the gang.
Who else Gosh?
J Cole, Huge inspiration, allthe production.
(08:45):
He does mean like him, and Imean like eminem.
I'll put that in there for sure.
You know, his just attention todetail and craft is is huge for
me.
I have to hear that you're likeflexing some sort of muscle and
maybe you don't even know themuscle that you're flexing, but
(09:06):
it's happening.
Let's see here who else.
Uh, asap rocky man.
One of my favorite concerts wasasap rocky and brianna, down at
the what was the rural farmsarena in baltimore, and that man
that really let me see that,like you, could fill a freaking
arena with people.
Man, let's see here who else.
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Oh, lil Peep man.
Moment of silence for Lil Peepman.
(09:51):
Just being able to hone in on asound in your basement with one
or two friends, sometimes evenjust by yourself, pressing a few
buttons and getting thoselevels to the right amounts, man
, I'm so grateful for Lil Peepand his music.
It's a huge influence on thesound that I have in the near
(10:13):
future.
Three, six Mafia oh man, theytaught me how to.
They taught me that there's aformula to making music and that
little, you know, littlesections upon little sections
can create something hypnotizing.
Super grateful for them, man.
(10:36):
But you know, let's go back tolittle people and being able to
create your own defined anddistinct sound.
I'm going to kind of segue intoan artist that I was speaking
with a few friends about thisweekend Lana Del Rey and gosh
man.
(10:56):
I am so inspired by someone whocan take you with their music
to a specific time, like evenlike a time period.
I mean, like not many artistscan do that, very few, and
that's something that, like Iwould say Billie Eilish does
(11:19):
that as well but to be able tocreate your own musical universe
and someone said that she'sjust making music and she's just
letting us in or on for theride, she's just being her man,
(11:42):
that's pretty cool.
Her music takes me to like the20s and like the 30s and like
the, the industrial revolution.
She's got that, that heart andthat soul in her voice.
That is is like, really it'smagical.
(12:06):
That's all I got to say.
It's like some damn magic outof hat.
I'll tell you that man, I'mstudying that and you know it
makes me think.
This past weekend, with somefriends you know, talking about
creating your own world, we wentand saw that movie, a Quiet
(12:30):
Place, and I've been waiting forI'm not the biggest scary movie
buff, okay, I'll tell you that,I'll put that out there.
But there are some that really,you know piqued interest, like
M Night Shyamalan and guys likethat.
You know people like that andit's man let's see here.
(12:53):
But A Quiet Place and it'scrazy to know the guy from the
Office, john Krasinski createdthat.
If you have the resources andyou're imaginative enough, you
can really in this world liveand create out anything.
I mean, look at what we'redoing here.
(13:14):
I mean this is my own littleworld, honestly, and it's cool
to have everybody here to get toconnect with me on so many
different things.
(13:34):
But yeah, back to A Quiet Place.
Just really, the whole ideabehind it is just amazing.
Creatures that attack sound,and just think about it.
That's like from a musicianstandpoint too.
You know, like you ain't makingmusic okay, ain't happening.
(13:55):
I was reading about how theymade that movie and a bunch of
articles about ai came up andyou know, know me and some of
the homies have been talkingabout it and you know you hear
about AI and a lot of people putlike a negative connotation
(14:16):
behind it or negative setting ortone to it.
But I gotta think about all theother things in our human
experience that were levels ofgrowth.
(14:37):
So think about like theinvention of the wheel, okay,
than like electricity.
But let's even go back fartherto fire.
Think about how many people andthings, people, places and
(15:07):
things had to burn or get burntbefore we figured out how to
harness fire.
Fire but then, once we did,that was a game changer.
(15:31):
So think about all the thingsand the people that had to get
burnt before being able toharness that, and I feel like AI
might be similar.
There's going to be someaspects where it's going to
maybe seem is it moralistic?
(15:55):
As far as consciousness goes,and depending on what is going
to have to get burnt, I thinkyou have to touch the handle.
You got to touch it with yourfinger first before you grab it.
So I think it's reallyimportant what happens in the
(16:20):
next, I'd say, 10 to 20 yearsthat will shape what artificial
intelligence becomes and how itmakes me think about how it and
(16:52):
fake bots and voices that aregenerated.
I mean, I only look at it assomething to remix.
That's all music is anyway.
It's just a sound that wasremixed to something else, that
was made to something different.
I love when you hear a song andyou think it's the original and
(17:17):
then, years later, you hear theoriginal and you're like what
the hell.
It makes you think about allthe different versions that had
to happen before that.
It makes you think about allthe different versions that had
to happen before that.
Yeah, and I have faith that thetrue artists out there will be
able to harness its abilitiesand use it for what it is
(17:46):
intended for, and I'm excitedfor the future of it.
Honestly, I'm ready for it.
Me and the team are workingendlessly to use it to connect
with, with the music and andcreate visuals and whole bunches
(18:10):
of things, but it's not takinganyone's job, I'll tell you.
It's actually creating more, tobe honest, but we won't dive
into that.
I wanted to give a big shout outto a few people.
This is the time in the podcastwhere I tell you where most of
this art came from and the logosand some of the ideas.
(18:34):
The logo up at the top herethat's in the middle was, and
that you saw in the verybeginning here, was created by
Creative Squeeze, some homiesout in California who man a few
revisions and it turned out.
(18:54):
It turned into something that Icouldn't even have ever
imagined and it is my heart andmy soul.
You will see me puttingstickers up in your neighborhood
in the near future.
Okay, I'm proud of that and I'mletting you know.
Thank you, creative Squeeze,really for your patience and
(19:18):
your your let's see here yourbeing able to take an idea and
turn it into something tangible.
Thank you, got the homies overat TechPod, that's Holden and
Chris man.
Let me tell you a story aboutChris.
(19:39):
He is from the UK and he saw aneight-second clip on Snapchat
of me in a studio singing and hewas motivated enough from that
(19:59):
eight seconds to find out who Iwas, because he geographically,
you know, found it.
So he didn't have the name oranything like that, or at least
my information, and he wentthrough some blanks to find me.
And I'm not even going to gointo detail the exact lengths,
but let me tell you it was likea detective on a case, and when
(20:21):
he found me and he told me thestory, I thought it was, I
thought he was bogus, I didn'tbelieve him.
I'm like who is this catfishand where did you come from?
And so then I started to dig.
We had a few phone calls and,you know, he ended up being a
real person and it proved to methat if eight seconds of a clip,
(20:47):
you know this is deep stuffright here.
If 8 seconds of a clip caninspire someone to find that
source and let them know howmuch it meant to them from
(21:09):
across the freaking world Likethat gave me the most hope in my
music reaching the world.
So thank you for that.
Thank you for that, thank youfor that.
(21:36):
So let's go.
I'm not going to get you know.
That's one for the grandkidsAll 100 of them.
I want to thank ChrisalenePetropoulos, who was my vocal
instructor.
Without her, I would not have astrong grasp on my emotions and
(22:01):
finding out that you can't singand cry at the same time.
So pick one.
Then we got the three.
We got the three headed monster.
Okay, brandon Lackey, fromlineup room studios on Saratoga
(22:22):
down in Baltimore, thank you foreverything you've done and your
attention to detail, foreverything you've done and your
attention to detail and you have.
You are one of those engineersthat moves and grows.
(22:43):
With an artist.
We don't just make the samething every time.
We make something, somethingdifferent every single time.
I step in there and that is agift.
Yeah, brandon, thank you.
(23:04):
Next, you got Nate, nateMiddleman from Above Ground
Records and Nate has taught methat the building the foundation
of the sound, and he he isreally is a wizard with like the
busing and like where, the,where the, the, you know the
effect goes in the chain, andhe's really taught me a lot
(23:27):
about pro tools and how toreally harness a sound and then,
once you find it being able touse it to the best of its
ability, knocking it out thepark every single time.
So thank you.
And then I have the man, themyth, the swamp, lady legend D9,
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chris Hansberger.
You really are the mostcinematic musician I know.
Your sounds are beyond, beyondthis world and you really helped
me experiment and helped mestep outside of the box, and I
(24:16):
have faith that you know thestuff that we are making now is
going to be some of my favoritestuff and some stuff that I know
I put the most attention towhen it came to sound design too
, yeah, so thank you and shoutout to some of the videographers
(24:36):
.
We got Luke Lukey, bird ShotRewind and Breaking Molds, and I
got Light Street Productions.
We have one in the bank rightnow we're going to do a premiere
at my show a little bit laterthis year where we really
(24:58):
stepped out of our comfort zoneall of us and created something
that I've always wanted to do.
I mean, it was on the bucketlist, so check that thing off,
man, yeah, I'm superappreciative for you, for you
guys, rob, rob SilverProductions, and let's see, here
(25:22):
I think I'd thank mom and dad,you know, of course that'll
bring that one out.
And last but not least, who youmight hear a little more from
is my homie, matthew Gruby.
He has been helping me side byside with every decision in this
podcast and the attention todetail is unlike any other.
(25:46):
And you will be successful.
I promise that the grind thatyou have and the smile on your
face is going to take you far.
All right, you might hear alittle more from him in the
future, but I'm not going togive any spoilers.
(26:09):
But I got to pee.
Yeah, nice, skater 4, like seeyou later.
4.
She wants to learn.
Enough for her.
She wants to Skater 4, like seeyou later.
4.
She wants a skateboard.
(26:32):
Oh, some songs just get stuckin your head.
You know, man, let's get, uh,let's get down to brass tacks
here.
Let's get down to brass tackshere.
(26:54):
I want to dig a little bit intowhat respecting perspectives is
and how it came to fruition.
It encompasses a bird's eyeview of life itself and gives
(27:21):
you a viewpoint that you haven'tever seen, or maybe it's the
only perspective you've seen.
But understanding that we allare having our own journey and
(27:48):
we're the center of it, how canyou still be at the center, but
also on the outside?
Throughout this mountainouspath that I've taken to finding
(28:16):
what this is, I've really beenable to discover how to bring
together a web of experiencesthat are all interconnected
somehow.
Maybe three links, five links,maybe 500 links.
(28:43):
You know you can compare it tolike your connected friends on
like Facebook.
You know the people that youknow, but the other people know.
How can you influence people?
Man, think about influence,influence, and now, in today's
(29:11):
world, influence can really comeout of nowhere.
But I think that's what we'remissing is that deep connection
with your influences.
And you're fluent.
You know Influences.
Influent, you know, andunderstanding the struggles of
(29:44):
the world as a whole and as anindividual, and, I think,
understanding others' challenges, and it really comes down to
struggle.
How can you learn about yourown?
(30:07):
You know how can you learnabout your own, and thinking
about how your best day could besomeone's worst, or your worst
day could be someone's best.
Yeah, that's a deep one.
You really have to think aboutthat.
(30:32):
And it helps me to really digdown deep to my heart and my
soul and what lies there andwhere it comes from.
(30:54):
And it helps me understandwhere other people are coming
from and why they say the thingsthat they say and do the things
that they do.
Helps me read people, helps meread situations Just
understanding my own situationand think about the different
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struggles that are dividedbetween different generations
(31:36):
and different age groups havedifferent things that they have
to be conscious of and that theyhave to put effort into
creating a path that they can beproud of.
And through that, I thinkself-discovery is at the center
(32:07):
of respecting perspectives.
Man, it feels good to reallyjust open up about something
that means so much to me and Ihope that throughout this
journey, y'all can see it how Isee it and how others see it.
(32:29):
I want to read something from anartist friend of mine, kasky,
who I spoke about earlier.
He's not just asinger-songwriter but he is also
a poem writer and a visualartist as well, and I want to
read a poem.
The title of the book is FearDoes Not Belong here by Brandon
(33:12):
Kasky.
And we're just going to flip toa page Final goodbye.
Bitterness resides in me, likean old, angry tenant whose pores
drip forgottenness, remindingme of the way rejection smells A
(33:44):
tainted assortment ofmisfortunes, carrying their
stories from one home to another, coveting the neighborhood,
renaming streets and changinglandmarks until I can't make it
to Mr Jim's comfortably.
What holds you here with suchvigor?
A monk spoke to me With thecracks of his eyes, warning me
to let you go Like a bad lover.
And oh how you have loved mebad.
(34:05):
So when I release you intoNovember's wind, return not with
your glass, apologies, no,leave me with the weight of
eternity and find new loverswhose homes to destroy.
Oh man, that shows you thateven in times of darkness and
(34:33):
hurt and pain, you can stillcreate something beautiful from
it.
Every time I read something outof here, it makes me think of a
different emotion or a differentplace.
It takes me to a place that isjust very open, you know, and I
(34:57):
can take things in and reallylike a sponge, yeah.
So I recommend grabbing one ofthese.
Let me know if you need helpcopping one and we'll.
We'll figure it out.
Fear does not belong here bybrandon caskey love you, bro man
(35:19):
.
And I also have an anotherperson who I really look up to,
mr Mr Don Miguel Ruiz, who isthe author of the Four
Agreements, which is one of myfavorite books in the world
(35:42):
myself and how to live my lifeas proud and from the heart,
with love as possible.
So I have some things that Ipurchased on Amazon and we're
going to flip right into them,straight out the package y'all.
(36:11):
Okay, I mean, it's gonna havelike that, that that new book
smell, if you know what I mean.
Okay, okay.
So I uh, I got a bunch of these.
I basically, once I read thefirst one, I got them all.
(36:34):
So this one is living a life ofawareness.
Okay, daily meditations on theToltec path.
Life of awareness, okay, dailymeditations on the Toltec path.
And this is by Don Miguel RuizJr, his son.
(36:58):
We're just gonna kind of flipthrough and we're gonna pick
something, okay.
Okay, keeping knowledge inperspective.
Knowledge serves an importantpurpose in the dream of the
(37:19):
planet.
It allows us to communicatewith one another from a place of
shared experience.
It also allows us to go beyondour physical limits and use
technology to live morecomfortable lives Without
awareness, knowledge can takeover the mind.
Everything that comes into yourfield of awareness could be
(37:40):
constantly labeled andtranslated.
Based on past experience.
Knowledge also enablesdomestication, a system of
reward and punishment thatoffers your own self-acceptance
and the acceptance of others inexchange for conformity.
This is why the question are youusing knowledge or is knowledge
(38:03):
using you so important?
You are primary and knowledgeis secondary.
Is your mind so overrun by whatyou know, what you have
forgotten the central piece?
Are you using knowledge or isknowledge using you?
Damn, I want you to think aboutthat.
(38:30):
Let's do one more.
I copped a few of these manRight into the perspective.
That's crazy.
The world speaks in wild ways.
We got Don Miguel Ruiz andBarbara Emery's the Three
(38:52):
Questions how to discover andmaster the power within you.
I'm just going to do a shortone here.
Ask yourself what is real.
What is real?
You will know what is real whenyou accept what is not real.
Once we learn to challenge ourstories, we get a sense of who
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we're not Seeing, that we canbecome aware of the truth.
We can see everything from aninfinite point of view.
You're grown accustomed toseeing yourself as a product of
life and perhaps even as avictim of circumstance.
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