April 7, 2025 • 65 mins
Step into a world where the body becomes a canvas for healing, expression, and authentic connection with Katriella, a multifaceted artist who embodies the powerful intersection of yoga, music, dance, and sound therapy.
From her first yoga class at age seven to her current work as a sound healer creating intentional frequency therapy, Katriella shares the transformative wisdom she's gathered along her artistic journey. Her revelations about how our bodies physically store trauma offer a revolutionary perspective—"most of your traumas are stored in your body, not your mind"—explaining why movement practices can succeed where purely mental approaches don't get to the root of the issue.
Her personal testimony proves this principle. After struggling with health issues conventional medicine couldn't resolve, Katriella turned to somatic movement healing. Within a month, many of her health problems disappeared as movement reduced her stress levels, allowing her body to "rest, digest & repair" itself. Through her yoga teaching, sound healing work with collaborator Austin Litz, and expressive performance style that blends singing with dance, she demonstrates how artistic expression becomes a pathway to freedom.
Perhaps most inspiring is Katriella's journey to authentic self-expression after experiencing judgment that made her "stiff" on stage during her high school years. Finding liberation through communities that celebrated rather than judged her expressiveness helped her reconnect with her true nature: "Wait, this is like what I've always been, but I've been hiding it." This permission to be fully expressive transformed not just her art, but her relationship with herself.
Join us for a conversation that weaves together ancient wisdom with modern healing techniques, capped with a beautiful guided breathing visualization that will help you establish your own protective energetic boundaries. Whether you're curious about yoga, struggling with physical or emotional blocks, or simply seeking more authentic self-expression, Katriella's journey offers profound insights for your own path! Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
well, hey, thank you, respecting perspectives
audience for joining us today,and I have a super special guest
here, a woman of many shoes.
She is a yoga instructor, asinger, a model so many
different things that she'sgoing to be able to talk about
(00:34):
today.
And I have Miss Catriella here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, thank you for joining me.
You know all those differentshoes that I just mentioned
there.
Tell me, do you have a favoriteof any of those?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh, I couldn't possibly pick my favorite shoes.
You're too funny.
I think singing has always beenlike I was told my first
sentence I sang, so I would saysinging is like near and dear to
me, but all of it I love you.
Know everything I've come tofind in this life.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh, that's awesome.
Let's see here what was out ofall those shoes there, what was
the first?
So you said you sang your firstsentence.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's really happy birthday, yeah Well, don't judge
me for my choice of songs, butyou know and wait a second.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Do you remember that yourself?
Or yeah, okay so it was.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was what I was told okay, who knows?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
oh right right maybe that was inspiration too no
that's really cool actually.
Um, when, um, when I wasyounger, I used to play uh, the,
the violin, and uh.
That's kind of one of my firstmemories of uh music itself, so
I can relate to that Um that'scool, the violin.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I can make one pretty note on it.
One time in my life and I wasso proud of myself.
I was like she told me she'slike that didn't sound bad.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I was like You're like I might have a future in
this.
What was that?
Just like a friend's violin orsomething.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, we were just jamming, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, so cool, isn't it cool?
How, like any instrument, like,even if you don't know how to
play it, you can still pick itup and try Of course.
Right To try everything, yeahyou need to Gosh, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So let's talk a little bit about when you were
younger and kind of, maybe,where you grew up and what
influenced some of the yoga andsinging and things like that, if
you could.
Yeah, I grew up in the DMV, soMaryland, okay.
And growing up, my mom signedme up for yoga when I was seven,
so that was the first time Iever heard of yoga.
I feel like it wasn't aspopular.
Now it's super popular but itwas Iyengar yoga, which was
(03:02):
really fun for a kid, because Ijust remember they had these
boards on the wall with rope andyou could hang on them and I
was a monkey bar kid so I waslike I'm super down with that
Monkey bar kid, monkey bar kid.
I just lived there, so I waslike okay, cool, I can hang on
the walls here.
So that was my first experiencewith yoga.
And then my mom became a yogainstructor.
(03:22):
I think she was more of like akid's yoga instructor, but, um,
so she worked at the studio andthen she got me into that studio
and I got, uh, you know,basically private lessons, cause
it was such a small studio.
It was like me and like oneother kid oh that's so cool,
yeah, and it wasn't supposed tobe private.
It just turned out to be likethat.
I had these two really greatteachers.
(03:45):
I do not remember the guy'sname I feel so bad but I do
remember the girl's name becauseI thought she was really pretty
.
Her name was Angela.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Shout out to Miss Angela.
She was so pretty.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
She taught me all the poses.
We did handstands and it's soeasy when you're a kid to do a
handstand, by the way.
That was a really coolexperience.
I started like working atbirthday parties at that studio,
um.
It eventually shut down, um,but I think it really kind of
(04:14):
inspired me to be like I want to.
I want to be like angela oneday you know, I want to teach
yoga.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You had something to look.
You know you were like that.
Yeah, a role model possibly.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
A role model?
Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, cool, let's see here.
Yeah, let's kind of stick withyoga.
Give me a little bit aboutmaybe some of the major things
that you learned throughout yogaitself, and maybe some advice
to some people out there who arelike thinking about doing it
but like not sure.
(04:46):
Yeah, hit me with that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Um, I think a big misconception about yoga is that
you have to be flexible and youhave to be strong and you have
to look fit.
That's you can blame like yogamagazine for that.
No offense to yoga magazine, Imean nothing wrong with that
either.
By the way because, like noshaming of any of that, but but
um, yoga is really just likeyour own experience.
(05:10):
It's about adjusting to yourbody, to your emotions, to your
thoughts, and not the other wayaround yeah, you know, I could
see that.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Um, so you mean also like I guess it doesn't matter
what like body size you have.
You know, I think it's nevertoo late to stretch, right.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, it's never too late to stretch or to start
meditating or any of that, youknow.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And again, it's like your own experience is exactly
how it's supposed to be, becauseyoga is only about your
experience, it's not about whatit looks like for me or what it
looks like for you.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, you know, I recently have been I would say
it's been like two years and Ihave been about 10, 15 minutes
in the morning I will do someyoga, do some particular poses I
can't name them, unfortunately,but it'll be great in the
(06:11):
morning It'll really help mekind of just like invigorate
everything.
And then there's times where,like, I'll try something a
little bit different, but Ireally do feel like it
stimulates everything and itkind of gets me, you know,
moving, gets my heart going alittle bit, you know, and uh, I
(06:32):
really have found a, uh, a newway to kind of connect with
myself.
You know, um, you, youmentioned meditation too.
You know, how do you think likeyoga and meditation kind of go
together?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well.
So what I was taught butthere's many different
perspectives is the movements,like the sole purpose of them
were really to get you in aplace of stillness.
So I don't know if you're intosomatics or any of that kind of
stuff, for you know you've gotto shake it out, move it out and
then you can go inwards.
So the poses are a really greatway to a strength in the body,
(07:14):
cause I mean, yogis would dolike really intense breath
practices that like I've neverattempted, you know um, and just
like really intense things, andso they had to have strong
bodies and in general, your bodyshould be strong.
It's ideal, obviously but alsolike moving through emotions
stuck in the body, movingthrough thoughts that are stuck
in the body.
(07:34):
We don't realize how connectedour mind and our body is in that
way, but, for example, inWestern psychology they've now
shown that the body keeps thescore.
Have you heard of that?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Have you heard of that?
So it's like most of yourtraumas are stored in your body,
not your mind, your mind.
There's only so much you canmind to get out of that.
But if you move your body,that's how you can really move
through things.
So I think yoga kind of knewthat and so I feel like it's so
connected Move the body, getconnected to your body.
(08:08):
That is a meditation, beingwith or moving meditation, but a
meditation.
And then if you really want tosit in stillness in a still
meditation, it's just that mucheasier to be with yourself
because you've acquaintedyourself.
You've acquainted yourself withevery muscle, as you've known.
If you're doing yoga, it's likeevery single thing is so
(08:31):
adjusted, you know, and thenyou've also again, like you've
allowed energy, emotion to moveout of you as well through those
movements.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So yeah, wow, I love that and so wait.
So you mean to tell me thatthere's trauma like hidden in,
like my bicep somewhere, like isit muscle or like what do you?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
think it really depends on the person.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Like dig a little bit into that Cause.
I think that's a really greatpoint and I think it can also
help people who maybe arestruggling with some like mental
, you know health issues thatmaybe it's not all you know
stuck up there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, totally not.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That they have opportunities to.
You know, deal with certainthings and don't have to.
You know it doesn't have to belike a one track mind.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, because so like I mean, I was even taught this
before I studied somatics, wherewe would be teaching hip
openers and we'd be warned byour trainers like hey, just so
you know, like hip openers movea lot of like sadness and
emotion in general.
So be aware of that when you'recueing them, like, help them
(09:43):
breathe through it.
You know?
So even yeah, just like subtlethings in different body parts
can hold different things.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Do you, can you give me a possible like experience
where you felt that, yeah, so Ilet me take a sip of water.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, of course, of course.
I think we'll move Cheers tothat.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
To your part.
Yes, cheers, cheers.
We'll both do that.
Cheers to that dear part.
So I'm not gonna I'm not gonnaget into too many details but
yeah, um, about five years ago,I was dealing with some really
um, tough health issues and alsogrief and among other things
(10:25):
like that, and during that time,like I had seen like every
doctor you could see for thesethings and no one had helped me,
and my friend actuallydiscovered somatic movement
healing and it's really likeyou're healing through dance and
song.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And it's kind of amazing and I started doing
these practices and among my own, like I would do the guided
practices and just like, turn onmusic and do my own, yeah, and
I started to feel better.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Like instantly.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, like like I started noticing a difference
immediately and then, withinabout a month of doing it, a
bunch of my health thingsresolved.
Really yeah about a month ofdoing it a bunch of my health
things resolved, really, yeah,and a bunch of my, and I think a
lot of it has to do with thestress.
You know like, if you'restressed, if you're holding in a
lot of intense emotion in yourbody, your body cannot heal from
things that it normally canheal from, you know, those just
(11:18):
get stagnant.
But if you let go of that andyou start, you know, lowering
your cortisol levels, yougetting into a place of more
peace, then your body can, youknow, rest and digest, repair.
Um, and so that was, I think, abig, a big thing for me.
Um, you know, the practices canbe anything you want them to be
(11:38):
, but they can also be likeguided Um, there's different
movements that we as humans havepatterns of doing.
So, like anger will typically,like you know, kind of do
punching motions right right umdisgust.
Pushing, spitting, gagging I'mserious like those are very for
sure like, so, like those thingscan come up bodily functions
(12:00):
right, um, and, and you can evenlike kind of bring that about
if you're trying to move throughit, like I was trying to move
through disgust and like.
So I was like you know what?
I'm going to just startspitting.
Oh shoot, there you go and so Iwas like you know, I've done.
That I mean alone, but I'vedone that, of course.
But then you know, joy, I mean,there's all these different.
Smiling and laughing differentsmiling and laughing, right,
(12:26):
yeah, and like and just kind ofallowing that to be, I think
like as children we were so goodat that.
Yeah, we were so good at likeexpressing and letting go yes
which you know.
There's a reason.
We were taught not to like havea tantrum, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But we could have been taught to like okay, like,
learn some breath techniques, goto your car, go to your room
and let that out physically soyou don't hold it yeah, and and
it doesn't have to be likedirected towards anyone you know
or any, of course thing, Ithink that's the important thing
is, like you know, making surethat you're doing that, uh, not
(13:00):
like in a controlled setting,but like like you know, you, I
think it has a lot to do with,like the intention of it, right,
and like, maybe, like in yourmind it really made me think
about what you were talkingabout and with with health
problems, and I feel likesometimes we in our mind, like
(13:23):
we get so like anxious, you knowabout like a specific thing and
we focus on that, that onething that, like, we're not able
to, I mean, think about, like,if you're staring at one
specific point, like you know,you're not able to look around
and see the other things thatare happening.
You know yeah that they can doif they feel like they're, is
(13:43):
there like a first step thatthey can do to maybe, like you
(14:06):
know, practice something likethis, do you think?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, there's definitely amazing teachers that
I do recommend, but there's,you know.
I will send you the name of thebook and you can put it in the
description yeah, we can put itin.
There's a great book about thisand they talk about the five
rhythms of our body oh wow, andthey kind of teach the basics of
it in that book.
Um, but also, like you havefeet that can move, walk around
(14:34):
your space yeah you know youhave arms, maybe give them a
little shake yeah um your breath.
Great place to start you know,that's so important and then
doing like doing guidedmovements can really help, like
doing like yoga, something likethat.
Before you can maybe enter thatmore free movement space could
maybe be good for certain peopleas well.
To give yourself structurefirst yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I could see maybe some people kind of like going
right into something like that,maybe like I don't know, like,
uh, you know tearing or likehurting something like oh no, so
that was advanced yeah yeah,yeah, okay, gotcha yeah, like
the stuff that I did.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, I am already a dancer, like I already dance.
I think for me it was reallyeasy to fall into this.
I was like you know what?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
this is awesome yeah, you just kind of just like
maybe like incorporated twobirds with one stone there,
right.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I think.
The big difference, though, isdance.
Sorry, I'm cold.
Can I get my jacket?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, of course, here I'll get it for you yeah.
So you were talking aboutmixing, dancing and yoga, right?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes, I am in my jacket now everyone I got cold
jacket, now everyone I got cold,so now I have a cloak.
Yeah, so, oh, yeah.
So dance a lot of times istaught in a very structured way.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Flow dance, which is what I do now, very not
structured.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay To a degree.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I mean there's structure within it, but it's
also like you get that freedom.
Okay, Embodiment's all likeanti-structure.
It's like do your thing, let itflow.
If you need some structure,like a guide can kind of bring
you back to center.
Like an actual person yeah,like like a person or recording,
(16:23):
you know whatever okay um, orif you just kind of understand
the knowledge of it, you cancheck with yourself while you're
doing it, gotcha um, but I feellike the nice thing about it is
that there isn't like a rightor a wrong.
It just teaches you to followyour body.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, love that.
Tell me a little bit more aboutdance and how dance has
influenced you since you wereyounger, because the one reason
why I want you to talk aboutthis is because when we were at
the most recent not this pastone, but before the Rhythm
(17:02):
Royale that you know, matthewGroob, the producer here, puts
on you were not only singing butyou were dancing as well, like
together, and you just seemedlike you were so free and like
you just didn't.
Just seemed like you were sofree and like you just didn't
have anything on your mind and Iwas like man, I was like I
(17:25):
could take a note from from herbook, you know, and I did, you
know, I kind of like.
After that, when I sang, I wasjust kind of a little bit more
like, let's see here, you knowlimber and I was able to move
around, so it was cool.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh good, I'm so glad, that helped.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, it did 100% and I think other people like
learned from it as well.
Like I was even talking tosomeone else and they were like
I love how she's just like sofree up there, just like moving
around.
You don't see people like mixthe mediums, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh, I see.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, they're either just like they're singing
and they're kind of just likereally rigid, you know, and like
there's some people who, likeyou, can tell that are like man,
like I wish that person wouldlike just be a little bit more
free with themselves, cause thenyou could tell that like they
could even express themselves,you know, a little more.
So, so dance.
Where did this all come from,um?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
honestly so dance.
Where did this all come from?
Honestly, so I did musicaltheater growing up and then I
stopped around high school, butI feel like that gave me a
really good background because Ilearned a lot of different
types of dance Performing youjust get more comfortable with,
(18:37):
but then I kind of I feel like Ilost touch with it for a little
bit, to be honest, like I thinkI got more rigid because you
start to get taught like ifyou've ever been in like chorus
or anything like that you knowthey kind of are like.
You need to like stand still.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh, dude, I do remember that, the way that they
did teach you about yeah, thefact that like yeah and that's
I'm curious as to why they woulddo that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Honestly, I have no idea Like it baffles me.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean to each their own, but I don't think a lot of
people resonate with thatanymore.
Yeah so you know, it's maybe alittle bit dated.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But yeah, I think I kind of lost touch with it a
little bit and I got more stiffand, like you know, like certain
people, I think people can behaters sometimes and just like
make fun of people just becausethey want something they have or
they feel bad about themselves.
So you know, I had some peoplelike make fun of me on stage
being a certain way, and then Ifelt really stiff about it.
(19:34):
After it made me really stiff.
Um, I wouldn't say very stiff,but stiffer Like about it.
After it made me really stiff.
Okay, um, I I wouldn't say verystiff, but stiffer like I would
never do what I did here when Iwas in high school, like I
would have been so nervous to dothat right um, I just hope that
that can help people kind of ifthey've been
there it's like, yeah, you know,like that really sucks when
that happens, um.
But then, like I, you know, Igot a little older and I joined
(19:54):
the burn community and I waslike these people rock, like you
know what I mean like they'reall just like completely, um,
just like artsy weirdos and likethey do not care how they look,
they do not judge each other.
In fact, they encourage eachother to act and be as silly as
(20:15):
they want yeah, love that,embrace the weirdness yeah.
So then I was like wait, this islike what I've always been, but
I've been hiding it and andthere's fire oh yeah, that added
.
That came later but but yeah,that the fire was also cool to
see them doing that.
At the time I didn't dance withfire, I was just like wow,
that's so cool, but um yeah, sothat was really inspiring to me.
(20:36):
And then I just like one night,just at a burn, just started
dancing like I do and just beingwild and people were like that
was awesome and I was like Ididn't even know anyone was
watching.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Was there anything specifically that inspired you
to do that?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yes, was there Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, we don't have to discuss it here, but no it's
good to know that there was, youknow, um, a straw that broke
the camel's back that you knowkind of inspired you to, to make
a change.
So hopefully you know otherpeople listening know that, like
you know, at any moment therecan be one small thing or one
large thing that helps them kindof move in a direction that
(21:20):
maybe they've been wanting tomove in, that they didn't even
know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Absolutely yeah.
And then after that, yeah, likeI just feel like my, I think it
was like it wasn't just likethis immediate thing, but it
just started to like I justprogressively got more confident
.
And then I would say honestly,my biggest peak of it was when I
started doing somatics to healmyself.
That was when I really was likeI don't care about anything
anymore, like I'm just going tolike be myself.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, I love that.
You know it was like I've.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm like, I've felt and seen enough, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Let's see here, gosh.
Okay, so we've talked aboutdancing, we talked about yoga.
Tell me a little bit about uhyour singing, uh background and
where that comes from, and uh,yeah where that comes from.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, um, I like I said I always was singing.
I just always loved singing, um, but uh, I got my first voice
lessons when I was 14.
Okay, and I did that throughoutmost of high school and then
afterwards I continued and youknow, eventually I found this
(22:29):
vocal coach who did I think it'scalled vocal pedagogy.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And she was a big deal for me because it wasn't
just the standard classicaltechniques that they teach.
It was practical for a popsinger Okay, I say pop as in
anything that's not classicalGotcha and she helped me to
really find the strength in myvoice, not the upper register,
but just in general.
(22:57):
Okay gotcha, so that I feel likeand a lot of that has to do
with just believing in yourself.
I noticed it was like, yeah,there was techniques, but a lot
of it was like trust that youcan do this, you know.
Trust that your voice can dothat.
What's holding you back morethan anything is your tension.
Your fear is holding your voiceback.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know what?
It's funny that you say thatI've recently, within the past
few years, have been able tolearn about the tension that
we're holding inside herethrough my vocal coach, chris
Alene.
And you know what she did?
She actually went under likeMRI machines and she studies
(23:37):
music through science.
Oh, cool, yeah, yeah, I thinkyou would really appreciate her
teachings.
And so she went under an MRImachine and a CAT scan machine,
like as she was singing, andthen also through like when you
know, most of like the tensenessoccurs in people and like
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scientifically it shows you that.
But the way that you said it,though, like the fear kind of
like the, I didn't really.
If they, you know, believe inthemselves and trusted in
themselves, and I think it alsohas to do with like not worrying
(24:28):
if other people are judgingthem, you know, do you feel like
?
I feel like how do you feellike judgments of people, kind
of?
You know why do you think thatholds people back so much?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Survival.
It's an ancient instinct, Likeif the tribe rejected you, then
you would die.
I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like, so you genuinely think, like primally,
it's like I'm going to die.
You're not going to, though, sothat can help to know that too.
To be like, hey, like I'mafraid right now, but it's
there's not an actual threat, Ifeel like.
The other thing is like when Inoticed that I can't really stop
my fear per se, but just likebe with it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Just like be okay with it and like the more you
just kind of are with it, themore you can like see through it
, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Be one with your fear , Gosh.
How can you?
I think it would be good tokind of dig into that for a
second.
When, say, someone is thinkingabout being judged or thinking
about someone else sayingsomething negative about them,
(25:36):
what do you think they can thinkinside?
What do you think they canthink in order to know that it's
okay?
Do you have any advice for that?
I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, what's the?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
thought process right .
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sorry, say it one more time.
I just want to make sure I'munderstanding.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Say someone is having a hard time with feeling judged
or that the people around themmaybe are being judgmental, what
do you think they either like amantra or something that maybe
they can tell themselves thatwill help them kind of be loose
a little bit and to really,because you're free, you really
(26:29):
seem like you have a lot ofcontrol over your mind, body and
your spirit.
How can you just maybe like oneor two ways to advise people to
be able to do the same?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's going to seem kind of counterintuitive, but
it's almost like knowing thatyou don't have control over your
mind, but that your mind isn'tyou.
So it's like starting to bemore of a witness and less of a
player in the game, Like let themind kind of talk.
Talk, but understand thatyou're more than just your mind
yeah you know and it's actuallya yogic mantra is I'm not my
(27:03):
body, I'm not even my mind.
I am atman, which means I amlike the universal consciousness
.
I'm so much more than just thisyou know and remembering that,
and even like remembering thatabout the people who are making
you feel bad yeah can help.
And that doesn't mean you haveto forgive them because, like,
when you're mad, just letyourself feel.
It is how I see it, like, don'tbe like, I love everyone.
That doesn't work.
It just doesn't like you'rejust gonna right you're just
(27:26):
gonna be repressing that andyou're just gonna it's gonna
come out sideways yeah, but butjust understanding.
That can help too yeah, I feellike and and yeah, just kind of
being with yourself and thesomatics can really help there
too.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Love that Um to the somatics.
What?
What do you think Is there?
Maybe like an outlet that youcan recommend for people to find
somatics?
Or maybe like like playlists on, like Apple or something?
How can they, how can peoplefind something like that?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Um, I can also like put some give you some people,
but there's a really wonderfulteacher named Maya Knight.
She has some free content onher Instagram, on her website,
and she's the person who I wasfollowing initially and I highly
recommend her work Awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's really great.
Yeah, yeah, we'll include thatin the link below.
Let's see here.
Okay, so yeah, we've talkedabout let's.
Let's talk a little bit moreabout your.
How many different vocalinstructor instructors have you
had in the past?
uh, four, three, something likethat okay, and what do you feel
(28:32):
like?
Four, sorry, did you have youlearned something?
Did they all seem to kind oflike teach the same thing, or
just like not like to a degreethat maybe you were like needed
to learn?
Or like you know?
Do you feel like you could havelearned the same amount of
information from you know oneperson if you would have maybe
(28:55):
stuck with them for like thatlongevity of time?
Or do you feel like differentvocal teachers have like
different things to offer?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
yeah, for me I think having different ones was really
important.
Um, I think the initial likeclassical training can really
help with just like gettinginvolved with your breath and
like learning the basictechniques.
I think eventually, like when Iprogressed, it kind of got to a
point where I was like okay,like, but how do I apply this to
pop music, you know?
(29:25):
And so having that teacher whoreally specialized in that was
really great, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Sounds like, sounds like it would be, and I'm sure
like, yeah, depending on whatthat instructor has learned, you
know that's going to be thething that they maybe teach you
about, or the things that theymaybe will dig into.
You know, let's see here.
What about you do some modelingas well?
(29:51):
Yeah, Tell me a little bitabout how that started and kind
of where you, what direction youtook that since you started.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, how did I start ?
So it was kind of an accident.
I was getting hit up byphotographers and my friend, as
a joke, was like wouldn't it befunny if you like?
Made a modeling page and justlike saw if that worked out.
I was like, oh yeah, I'm soshort, though I doubt it.
And I discovered, um, and Ithink there's a big
(30:24):
misconception about whatmodeling is in like that world
and there is many differentgenres, um, and so I am a fine
art or art model oh cool.
Um, specifically, I mean I doother genres, but primarily you
would categorize me as an artmodel, and that doesn't just
mean for painters.
That means like the fine arts,the arts in general, gotcha.
So, like my photos are like theones that you would see in like
(30:46):
galleries, museums, versus likea runway models.
You know she's gonna rock theone, the wow walk the runway
words, got words I'm cold wordsare not happening, words are not
wording, um, you know so, soanyway.
So that was really cool to evendiscover that, because, um, like
as a kid, I always would watch,like America's next top model
(31:07):
and stuff and I was like oh,that looks like such a fun way
to express yourself, but I'llnever be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm sure there's, there's, there's that, that,
that thought, you know, in theback of your mind, what are some
of the other ways or what?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
are some of the other forms of modeling other than
fine art.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
There's glamour modeling which would be more
like Playboy style Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
There is catalog modeling, commercial modeling.
There's so many differentthings you could model for
commercials for pharmaceuticalcompanies.
I mean, yeah, that's commercialmodeling.
There's so many differentthings, gotcha, you know, like
you could model for commercialsfor pharmaceutical company.
I mean yeah, that's commercialmodeling, but that's like I mean
, I know of models who plan tomodel for their whole life and
that's their plan is to startdoing pharmaceutical modeling,
you know, for hemorrhoid creamsand stuff, right to each her own
(31:55):
right.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, I think the the , I think the fact that there
are so many different worldsupon worlds out there, and I
think even as far as a youngwoman who's out there who sees
particular modelingopportunities, is there anything
(32:17):
that like let's see here, isthere anything that you saw when
you were younger that inspiredyou to to become a model?
Was there anything that, like,you know any like artists or
let's see here, not like, Iguess, like painters, but like
maybe artists that likeinfluenced you when you were
(32:37):
younger, like with eithermodeling or just influenced you
in general?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
yeah, I mean honestly .
So I was obsessed with nude art, like I just thought it was so
cool, and so I had like a tumblrand I would like look at and
like repost photos and just likeI don't even know who these
photographers were honestly Like.
I just loved it.
I remember I have an aunt anduncle in California so they're
(33:05):
like, they were like veryprogressive and like her sister,
you know, was Tammy Stronach,who is the Neverending Story
princess and she's an amazing.
She doesn't really act anymorebut she does like, just like,
beautiful dance in New.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
York.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
City, and so I saw this photo on their wall of her
and she's naked dancing withthis male dancer and it's I mean
, it's a beautiful photoBeautiful.
She's a amazing dancer and Iwas like a kid and I was like,
why is Tammy naked?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Right, I'm sure that thought's going to cross your
mind.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, I was like what's this?
And I liked it, though.
And she was like, oh, that's mysister, she's dancing here.
And I was like, oh, she's naked.
And she's like, yeah, that'sart, it's nude art.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right.
And I think it's a beautifulphoto, so that's why it's on my
wall.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, love that and that kind of stuck with me where
I was, like you know, like Ithink just hearing that voice,
where it's like she recognizedthat as art, like I love that
form of art, so that was one ofthe main arts I I really loved
initially was just like figurework, um creating like raw
energy from the body, just likewith nothing else, um, nothing
(34:14):
else there intervening on it.
I just think there's a lot toit, there's a lot that can be
expressed and there's like avulnerability to it that you
can't really emulate withanything else.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I feel like you have to be.
You have to think a little bitdeeper in order to understand it
.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Right, because I mean , let me ask you this, was the
photo black and white?
Understand it?
Yeah, right, because I mean,let me ask you this, was the
photo black and white?
Yeah, yeah.
So I feel like like, okay, sothere's not as much color
involved, right.
And then there's not as muchlike, I mean, clothing.
We use clothing as likeaccentuation, you know, and
(34:54):
colors themselves and likedifferent patterns, so you don't
have any of that to kind oflike influence you.
So instead, it's really just Ithink it has a lot to do with
maybe like the setting thatthey're in to write.
Was it where they?
Was it also set in like frontof like a of a psych wall, like
(35:17):
a cyclorama wall, where it'slike no shadows or anything like
that yeah, it's just like darkand yeah very high contrast
lighting and yeah, yeah I couldsee that.
Um.
So yeah, I do feel like youhave to have like a certain
taste for for something likethat yeah, and and also like.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I mean I love art in nature, like, and maybe in
nature you will wear somethingyou might wear like a white gown
yeah or like fabric orsomething yeah but you notice,
like not much, you don't needmuch yeah, it's nature like we
are nature oh right, we arenature love that, and then, when
you're in, it's just kind oflike everything goes together
Speaker 1 (35:54):
yeah, I love that.
I really want to incorporatemore of that with my music.
And I had, like, this dream onenight where there was, like this
model and she was, she was, shewas naked and um and like, but
like there was this feeling thatI had and like I wasn't even in
(36:15):
it, it was just my music andher.
And I woke up the next morningand I had this feeling that I
was like man, this is something,this is something that can
really help me express my musicin a different way.
Unfortunately, I didn't act onit immediately, you know.
(36:37):
So the feeling itself and theinspiration behind it kind of,
you know, became lackluster, butthat, you know, the idea still
exists in my mind and you know,I really want to incorporate and
, you know, granted, she doesn'thave to be naked, but at the
same time, like I really do feellike incorporating like a
(37:01):
female body into, like my musicand like the way that it is
perceived, I think can really be, you know, helpful in me
experiencing and trying newmediums and ways of reaching new
people.
So I think you're going toinspire that out of me.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, you should play with it, I mean because it
seems so outlandish, but then inaction it's actually a really
common form of art and a lot ofpeople do it and a lot of people
love it.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, for sure.
Let's see here who were some ofthe.
I know you were speaking aboutum when we had that conversation
on the phone.
You were speaking about um, anartist that really inspired you.
Um, that was more uh, was.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I don't know if it was poetry or what do you have
um just like like film um andalso just like all of his, like
his tarot book and a lot of hiswork, uh, alejandro jodorowsky
yeah, tell me a little bit abouthim and what inspired you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Uh, you know, oh, yeah, water yep water time it's
important to stay hydrated let'sdo it okay, h2o, that's a huge
bottle like I know the thing isbig as you it's like really
excessive.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I wasn't thinking about it when it happened.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah right, you're like I need water for for my
conversation you have enough,though do we have plenty?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
um.
So, yeah, um, I like love hismovies um the the holy mountains
, like maybe the most famous one.
I don't know if you've seen itI haven't, but I'll look into it
.
Yeah um and his his movies.
Like he bases a lot of hisconcepts off of the tarot okay
um.
So if you like study his bookat all, or even like know a
(38:51):
little bit about tarot, you cankind of see it like intertwine
in his movies, which is reallycool tell people what is tarot.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
For people who don't know what the tarot is, I know
right we have to kind ofdescribe tarot.
Sometimes you have to pretendlike people don't you know
understand everything that we'resaying?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think right, so yeah, I'm like trying to think
of, um, I mean, in a way liketarot isn't like a lot of people
see it as like future telling,but it's more so like looking
into your psyche, and it waslike the original way of doing
that, like they would use thesecards in order to tap into
different parts of our psyche.
And so Alejandro Jodorowsky isso interesting because he and I
(39:29):
do not remember the name of theguy he did it with, which is
terrible, because I should, butI will, you'll find out, I'll
find out, It'll come back to me.
I'm not great with names, butthey spent like a lot of their
life's work on recreating theTarot de Marseille, which was
(39:49):
one of the most ancient tarotdecks, and so they basically
went around the world findingthe original art.
Um, like the original art, theywent like to museums, I mean
like everywhere, I mean you know, and all hondra jodorowsky's
from, uh, latin america, butthen he was in france when he
was doing this project and theystill continue to travel.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, it's just crazy yeah, I'm sure they had to
to find some of these things,yeah, and so they.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
They managed to do it , though.
Oh wow, so you can buy it.
It's the Terra de Marseille,the Cameroon edition.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
And I have it.
Yeah, it's like really cool.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
But if you look at these cards, you really do.
It invokes part of yourconsciousness that I can't even
really explain.
You just kind of have to lookat the cards yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Love that and you mean like invoke, like it
invokes, like let's see here,what does it invoke?
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like different archetypes within a soul.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh, I love that Good way of describing it.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
And what I find really interesting about this
deck is and maybe this isgetting into too many details
but the minor arcana, which islike there's like the major one,
which is like the story is likethe fool goes on a journey to
see the world and it's like youknow the main cards that people
might know about.
But then there's the minor ones, which is like the eight of
cups, it's like all the thenumbers okay you know um all of
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those ones.
they're very abstract, likethey're not like a picture of a
guy or anything.
They're all like coins andthere's like flowers drawn
around them in different ways.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It's so abstract that it really gets you thinking on
a much deeper level.
I love that there isn't anyoneelse's consciousness that's been
projected on it, and that'skind of what this deck
represented was like we're notprojecting our own views, my own
experience of my psyche, ontothis deck.
This deck allows you to connectto your own psyche and project
(41:44):
your own experiences into thisdeck for yourself.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Let me ask you do you feel like in the world that we
live in?
Do you feel like we areprojected upon with either ideas
or thoughts or ways of thinking?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Of course I mean social media is the most perfect
example of that.
I actually recently had arealization about this.
My friend actually, I'm verygrateful for her for bringing
this up.
Friend, actually, I'm verygrateful for her for bringing
this up.
Um, there's like thisperfectionism that I feel, like
so many of us have that we don'teven realize we have, and like
for me it was manifesting inlike uh, like health and like
(42:26):
wellness and stuff, where I'mlike I have to go to bed at this
time and I have to do this andI have to eat, like that, and I
and I was like going, I was likethis is insane, like this is
not fun, like this is not okayand I was talking to her about
some like anxieties I was havingand she was like you know,
social media is really likesubtly projected all these ideas
(42:47):
onto us of perfectionism yeahand, like you know, we're human,
you know, and and a lot ofthese people are just trying to
sell you a product anyway.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, like most of people, are just trying to sell
you a product, anyway.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, you're right, most of these, people are trying
to sell you a product or theirprogram or their coaching.
There's nothing wrong with that, but you have to be aware that
that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, that subconsciously you have to
understand.
What do you think that peopleare using it for?
Do you feel like people areusing it for?
Do you feel like people areusing it properly?
Like how many of the percentageof people?
Do you really feel likeunderstand that that's even
happening?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
You know I can't tell you that, but I do think a lot
of us aren't aware of it yeah.
I mean my guess would be, a lotof us aren't aware of it.
I mean there's such an uptickin like plastic surgeries and
just like insecurities and stuff.
I think that's really big inour culture right now.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, you're right about that.
Let's see here.
We kind of dug into a fewdifferent things.
Here Is there, let's see here.
I think we were talking aboutgosh.
I know we were talking aboutsome of the inspiration that you
have and had, but tell me alittle bit more about what you
(44:01):
have for the future.
You were talking about an EPthat you're coming out with
sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I'm recording an EP, not an album.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, an.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
EP with a live band.
So it's just.
I'm really excited because Ijust feel like that's so.
The vibe that I've been missingis just having that like the
real musician, full effect, yeah, so I'm really excited for that
.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So what?
You have a drummer, a bassist,a guitar player.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
And then I'll play keys sometimes.
Oh cool, Not for all the songs,but for most, and then I'll
play keys sometimes oh cool.
Not for all the songs, but formost of them.
I'll be on keys.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Okay, nice, All right , so wait the piano.
How long have you been playingSince?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I was a kid.
I wouldn't say I'm good, butI've been writing songs since I
was a kid, so I would say myskill as a songwriter is higher
than my skills on the piano Okay, gotcha than my skills on the
piano okay.
But like I, I play the piano.
I just, um, I wouldn't like.
There's some people I know thatare just like insanely good
keyboardists, yeah, and I thinkI'm like really good, but I'm
not like I.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I haven't become like the next beethoven yeah, in
that department but um don't youlove musicians talking bad
about ourselves right, um, Iguess there's always another
musician that's better than youout there, see, see, there's an
insecurity.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That came out Right.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well, I'm here to help you through it, okay, so
let's see here.
There was something else Iwanted to ask you.
Oh, when it comes tosongwriting, how often do you
find yourself writing music?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You know I sometimes will have waves where I don't
write as much.
Okay, like I'll have maybe acouple weeks where I'm just not
super into it and then it comesback and I think that's there's
like a wave with it yeah, nicewith my sound healing.
I feel like it's like a moreconsistent flow, though, because
it's not.
There's like no lyrics that arelike pressurized.
(45:54):
I'm not writing a whole storyfor you.
I'm writing more of anexpressive story, which is
almost more feminine.
I guess the more feminine sideof music.
So that's been really funbecause I just feel so prolific.
It's like I make something andit's there.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Tell us a little bit about that page and what it is
and how people can find it.
I'll definitely be putting alink underneath here, but tell
me who was it with?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Austin Litz.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, it's called Cutriella and Litz.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
And wait a second, where did this idea?
Just so you know I am asubscribing member, just so you
know.
I found her page and foundtheir page and I was extremely
inspired by it and like they hadreleased something that day,
you know, that just shows youlike the time, attention and
(46:47):
creativity that they are puttinginto it.
But tell me, where did thatidea come from?
And you know, where have youtaken it since then, since the
beginning?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, I.
You know I've wanted to dosound healing for so long, I
just didn't know how.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
And wait.
What is sound healing?
Describe sound healing tosomeone.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
You know it's.
It's sort of like intentionalfrequency therapy is how I would
say I would describe it.
But I mean, sound therapy, inmy opinion, is also like,
whatever it is for you, you know, like if you find it healing to
listen to you know heavy metalthen, like, I think that's sound
therapy, but that's a goodpoint.
(47:30):
Certain frequencies andintentionality to what we're
doing, um, even certain vowels,sometimes certain um sounds, you
know, that are specific tohealing, maybe different chakras
, different centers of the body,um, different organs.
Even so, um yeah, it can gopretty deep it.
It just depends on, I guess,the individual though, and like
(47:52):
what they resonate with.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
And so when, when you know, before you make a video,
do you have these vowels andthese things kind of you know,
set to like what you're?
How much planning andpreparation, if you don't mind
me asking, go into somethinglike that, Because it's this,
Because it seems like a lot, youknow?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
You know it is, but it also isn't.
It is like we are veryintentional with what we do but
at the same time, there's thisflow element to it where you're
like you know what.
What's going to be the mostresonant is if we're in the
right vibe.
So if you overthink it, it'sjust going to be stiff.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
You know, and I've made videos where I was
definitely like reallyoverthinking it and I'm like
those ones didn't do so well.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
You know, it's so interesting how that works.
It's like they can just feelthat.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
So it's like, yes, like there's a lot that we put
into this, like a lot we put alot of hard work into it.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
But at the same is actually the vibes.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Like in really just wanting to resonate that healing
frequency with others andconnect to them in that way.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, I can also.
And what about you?
Like, what do you feel?
Like you get out of it?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I just love it, I just it's great.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, I mean I can see it, though I can tell that,
the way that you presentyourself, I feel like you
probably actually get the mostout of what you're delivering to
these people and the audience,because you are actually the one
who is 100% centered with whatyou're delivering, and I can
(49:31):
really tell that your emotion isin like every single syllable,
and I can tell it's funny tolike kind of like hear you and
see how small you are and thenlike kind of like hear some of
the sounds that you're able tocreate.
You know what about, likepost-production?
(49:53):
Is there any post-productionthat is involved with it?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, you have to edit the video, the sound design
and all of that.
So yeah there's definitelypost-production.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
That's a big thing, and are you involved in the
sound design as well?
Do you sit with Austin and kindof come up with that as well?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I mean, he is the audio engineer, for sure, but we
will listen together and kindof like bounce off each other
and yeah, um, but yeah, he'sdefinitely, I would say like
really, really good at audioengineering.
It's like one of his passionsin life and he loves it.
So I mean, I I think thatreally helps too.
Is that he really loves thatpart?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, you know, you can tell yeah and you can hear
it.
So that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Um, let's see here I think we went over.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
You know a lot of good, good stuff here.
Um, is there anything thatmaybe we didn't mention that?
Um, you wanted to either talkabout that you have going on or
that you've either done, aredoing now or have in the future
that you want to bring somelight to.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I mean, I'm still doing my sound healing channel.
I would love it if you guyschecked it out.
Awesome, We've got a lot ofgreat content coming up.
I mean, we film.
We try to have two videos aweek.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
So we're really just.
We try to keep it going so thatpeople can have that with them
every week.
This is not like an officialconcept, but I do want to start
talking more on that channel.
So that's up in the air, butthat's something that I think
would be really cool to do.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Just kind of like guiding people.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, like guided meditations, maybe even just
like bringing in some variousinsights throughout the month.
Yeah, like, yeah Like guidedmeditations, maybe even just
like bringing in some variousinsights throughout the month.
Um, so that would be.
I think that's something Ireally want to start doing is
bringing my voice in other waysthere as well.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Love that.
Yeah, that's so cool.
Make sure you go check out herchannel here.
Um, I have some cool littlequestions here that we're going
to.
Uh, yeah, we're going to gothrough here.
Um, usually do like a rapidfire, okay.
So with this, I mean we do wantto try and be, because we could
like talk about some of thesethings for a very long time
Right right.
But we want to try and hit asmany as possible.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I feel like I'm starting to get a little bit
warmer and of course we're likewe're almost done.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Like you know, it's like I'm like, yeah, everything
is great, yeah, everything'sgreat, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
And it's back to, like you know, that tenseness,
you know, and when you're coldthough, I know you like tense up
dude, I know.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
You know, Okay, so try and get a little warm here.
I need some warmth coming.
Come on, guys, bring it on.
Bring it on, bring on thatwarmth, okay you ready, all
right.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Can of someone in?
Speaker 2 (52:41):
your family, let's see it.
Oh yeah, just do it.
I'm gonna piss off today.
Yeah, come on, just do it.
Just do somebody.
Um, oh my god, come on.
You got this I'm doing the catyes, there you go, perfect, okay
.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Okay, name another country you want to visit oh, um
greece and why beautiful.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I want to go to the greek islands oh, I just went
there last year oh, you did, Idid.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I'm jealous, I dude I have a an island, amilos, you
have to go to, okay, okay remindme of that okay, for sure, all
right.
What question do you wishpeople would ask you more often?
Speaker 2 (53:14):
um, that's an interesting question I don't
know if I need people to ask mequestions no, but that's a good
one.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Is there?
Is there any question thatmaybe like?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
um, I guess I did just ask you like a thousand
questions too, so okay, whatquestion do I think people
should ask me more often um, um,um.
And why aren't we all dancingright now?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
oh, there you go.
All right, put it in the books.
I think mine would be um, areyou okay, like?
Are you okay?
Like, do you know?
Like?
Is there anything that you wantto talk?
You need to talk about?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
yeah, you know, I like that yeah, um, okay.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Have you ever eaten something weird, just to see how
it tastes?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, I feel like everyone has right.
Like someone's, like this isdisgusting, and you're like let
me see, yeah, let's try it.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Have you ever tried one of the hot chips?
It's like a one chip.
I forget what it's called.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Like the hot Cheetos.
It's not hot Cheetos.
I've had those.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
It's like a one chip that's got like the crazy amount
of spice.
But it's only one chip.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
No Trust me, you don't.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
You don't want to do this it's a singular chip.
It's a singular chip.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
In like a bag, or does it have a box?
It's a box.
It's in a box, one chip.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Okay, I got to see what this looks like yeah, you
got to see to fly or to readminds.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Nope, I would fly.
I don't want to read your mind.
I'm good, right, right, so goodon that.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I don't want to read my own mind sometimes Jeez, that
seems very loud.
All right, wait, my mind does,my mind seems loud.
All minds, all minds, yeah, allminds.
My mind is extra.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
My mind's loud yeah extra, yeah, very extra.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
All right, you ready?
What's the best ice creamtopping?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Anything chocolate.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I think anything, chocolate would be good.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Especially dark chocolate.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah for sure.
Would you ever want someone tothrow you a surprise party?
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I mean, yeah, ah, duh , that's a easy one Come on All
right if you had to movesomeplace you've been to on
vacation, where would it beGuatemala?
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Okay, so you've been there.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah, my sister lives there.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh, cool, yeah All right, shout out to sis.
Yeah, all right.
What is your favorite form ofpotatoes?
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Sweet potato the Japanese sweet potatoes baked.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
What?
Okay, you need to put me onjust baked.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Okay, you need, because they're like soft and
sweet and delicious.
I hate the word moist, but theyare moist enough.
I mean that's the word thatyou'd use to describe it.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I mean you know what can we say?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
it's like they don't even need butter, they're just
like on their own they'rebuttery already, they're buttery
already all right, okay,describe the person.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Describe the person, never mind you can't describe
the person to the right of you.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
You don't know my life.
You don't know my life.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
All right, describe what you think your life will
look like when you're 85.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Oh, how cute.
I will be in a cottage in thewoods as an old crone and I will
have a lot of plants around meand hopefully, grandchildren and
I will be friends with insects,snakes, cats and other various
animals.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Those are their homies.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay, so you're with the gang,basically.
Basically yeah, all right.
Last one Tell us your idealpacked lunch.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Oh, you know, as a kid I don't know why I really
liked those Lunchables.
I don't like them anymore, butas a kid it was so novel.
My mom's like they're bad foryou, so I would probably, as a
child, choose that.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Which one though?
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Like there was like a pizza one.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, I like that one , the pizza one.
Oh man, I like that one, thepizza one.
When's the last time you hadone of those?
Speaker 2 (56:54):
I literally don't even know.
It's been so long.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I think, as a you should make, you had to make
them they're probably so bad foryou.
I've heard they are.
I guess every now and then it'sokay, we have one last segment
here.
I have a phone somewhere here.
I have a phone somewhere here,wait.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
I do this all the time.
I understand how it feels Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
All right, so wait a second.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Oh my God, we got an old phone.
Oh, you know, I brought the oldone.
Wait, is this from like the?
Speaker 1 (57:30):
90s, maybe even the 80s.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
I feel like I'm watching like Friends or
something.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
This is the first cell phone ever made, just so
you know.
Ring, ring, ring.
Oh wait, what's that sound?
Oh, okay, this is Catriella theyoung.
Catriella, catriella, okay,wait a second, you don't know me
.
I have somebody here who wantsto have a conversation with you
and tell you something Righthere.
(57:57):
Here you go.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Oh, hello there.
This is like psych, word worthy.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
It's okay, we're here , we're here.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
We're here, we're with it.
This is somatic.
Okay, don't be afraid of somuch, because you know a lot of
things actually aren't thatscary.
If you walk up to the lineyou'll realize it's just a tiny
cat.
Seriously, get on stage, shakeit.
Uh, trust your instincts.
(58:29):
Your intuition's actuallyalways right.
Trust me on that.
Someone's going to sayotherwise and don't hold back.
Yeah, tell her you love her, Ilove you yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Hey, listen, you end up being a pretty awesome human
and don't change a thing and doexactly what she just told you.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
All right, she's fighting you on it.
I know you ready.
Bye, bye bye, awesome.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh, that was so cool, awesome.
Good job, good job.
Well, hey, I want to thank youfor joining us, and I think the
best way to end this will be abreathing exercise, maybe just a
few minutes, kind of okay,water, break first water yeah,
water break my giant freaking.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
We're not sponsored by Deer Park, but it certainly
looks that way, dear lord.
Okay, is this even allowed like?
Speaker 1 (59:35):
I don.
Is that legal?
Is that a legal size?
Speaker 2 (59:37):
am I allowed to be doing this like I don't know?
okay, breathing exercise okay,so I'm gonna sit cross-legged
okay because it's morecomfortable okay if you want to,
you can so sit comfortablywherever you are, you can bring
the palms face up on your legs,taking a moment to feel your sit
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bones connecting to the surfacebelow you, connecting to your
natural rhythm of breath, justbringing awareness Now, with
each inhale.
(01:00:25):
I want you to imagine thatthere are roots extending down
from your sit bones all the waythrough into the earth.
So it's each inhale breathingin, the roots are extending down
down into the earth below you,rooting you deeper and deeper
(01:00:54):
with each inhale.
Now, with each exhale,imagining that the roots are
becoming thicker and more robust, more solidly rooted.
(01:01:19):
So you inhale, the roots growdeeper, exhale, the roots grow
more robust, continuing thisflow.
(01:02:04):
Now bring awareness back to yourbody, now that you are firmly
rooted, and I want you toimagine that there is a white
light surrounding you, like anaura or a force field that
(01:02:24):
surrounds you.
You can also imagine it like abubble and positive, happy
energy and things dance aroundthis light.
(01:02:46):
Imagining joy, love andpeaceful energies dancing around
this aura, and any energiesthat do not serve you simply
(01:03:17):
fizzle away upon touching thislight and are repurposed in the
universe into something else.
Imagining those energies justfizzling away.
Now take a deep breath in,exhale it out the mouth.
(01:03:58):
One more deep breath in, exhaleit out the mouth, remembering
that you can always tap intothis protective light that
surrounds you.
I like to think of it like weare cells and this is our cell
(01:04:21):
membrane, and it actually keepsthe whole system of the universe
healthy when we stay within ourmembrane and we can still be
equally as close and as lovingto others, even within this cell
membrane.
And you can take your hands tothe heart.
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Namaste, I bow to you the lightin me sees the light in you.
That was perfect I did say mousemembrane, but you know it's
okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
No, the imperfectness makes it perfect.
It's good love that.
Well, hey, thank you so muchfor that and, uh, thank you all
for joining us for this episodeof respecting perspectives.
We will see you on the flipside.
well, hey, thank you, respecting perspectives
audience for joining us today,and I have a super special guest
here, a woman of many shoes.
She is a yoga instructor, asinger, a model so many
different things that she'sgoing to be able to talk about
(00:34):
today.
And I have Miss Catriella here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, thank you for joining me.
You know all those differentshoes that I just mentioned
there.
Tell me, do you have a favoriteof any of those?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh, I couldn't possibly pick my favorite shoes.
You're too funny.
I think singing has always beenlike I was told my first
sentence I sang, so I would saysinging is like near and dear to
me, but all of it I love you.
Know everything I've come tofind in this life.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh, that's awesome.
Let's see here what was out ofall those shoes there, what was
the first?
So you said you sang your firstsentence.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's really happy birthday, yeah Well, don't judge
me for my choice of songs, butyou know and wait a second.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Do you remember that yourself?
Or yeah, okay so it was.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was what I was told okay, who knows?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
oh right right maybe that was inspiration too no
that's really cool actually.
Um, when, um, when I wasyounger, I used to play uh, the,
the violin, and uh.
That's kind of one of my firstmemories of uh music itself, so
I can relate to that Um that'scool, the violin.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I can make one pretty note on it.
One time in my life and I wasso proud of myself.
I was like she told me she'slike that didn't sound bad.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I was like You're like I might have a future in
this.
What was that?
Just like a friend's violin orsomething.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, we were just jamming, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, so cool, isn't it cool?
How, like any instrument, like,even if you don't know how to
play it, you can still pick itup and try Of course.
Right To try everything, yeahyou need to Gosh, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So let's talk a little bit about when you were
younger and kind of, maybe,where you grew up and what
influenced some of the yoga andsinging and things like that, if
you could.
Yeah, I grew up in the DMV, soMaryland, okay.
And growing up, my mom signedme up for yoga when I was seven,
so that was the first time Iever heard of yoga.
I feel like it wasn't aspopular.
Now it's super popular but itwas Iyengar yoga, which was
(03:02):
really fun for a kid, because Ijust remember they had these
boards on the wall with rope andyou could hang on them and I
was a monkey bar kid so I waslike I'm super down with that
Monkey bar kid, monkey bar kid.
I just lived there, so I waslike okay, cool, I can hang on
the walls here.
So that was my first experiencewith yoga.
And then my mom became a yogainstructor.
(03:22):
I think she was more of like akid's yoga instructor, but, um,
so she worked at the studio andthen she got me into that studio
and I got, uh, you know,basically private lessons, cause
it was such a small studio.
It was like me and like oneother kid oh that's so cool,
yeah, and it wasn't supposed tobe private.
It just turned out to be likethat.
I had these two really greatteachers.
(03:45):
I do not remember the guy'sname I feel so bad but I do
remember the girl's name becauseI thought she was really pretty
.
Her name was Angela.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Shout out to Miss Angela.
She was so pretty.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
She taught me all the poses.
We did handstands and it's soeasy when you're a kid to do a
handstand, by the way.
That was a really coolexperience.
I started like working atbirthday parties at that studio,
um.
It eventually shut down, um,but I think it really kind of
(04:14):
inspired me to be like I want to.
I want to be like angela oneday you know, I want to teach
yoga.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You had something to look.
You know you were like that.
Yeah, a role model possibly.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
A role model?
Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, cool, let's see here.
Yeah, let's kind of stick withyoga.
Give me a little bit aboutmaybe some of the major things
that you learned throughout yogaitself, and maybe some advice
to some people out there who arelike thinking about doing it
but like not sure.
(04:46):
Yeah, hit me with that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Um, I think a big misconception about yoga is that
you have to be flexible and youhave to be strong and you have
to look fit.
That's you can blame like yogamagazine for that.
No offense to yoga magazine, Imean nothing wrong with that
either.
By the way because, like noshaming of any of that, but but
um, yoga is really just likeyour own experience.
(05:10):
It's about adjusting to yourbody, to your emotions, to your
thoughts, and not the other wayaround yeah, you know, I could
see that.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Um, so you mean also like I guess it doesn't matter
what like body size you have.
You know, I think it's nevertoo late to stretch, right.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, it's never too late to stretch or to start
meditating or any of that, youknow.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And again, it's like your own experience is exactly
how it's supposed to be, becauseyoga is only about your
experience, it's not about whatit looks like for me or what it
looks like for you.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, you know, I recently have been I would say
it's been like two years and Ihave been about 10, 15 minutes
in the morning I will do someyoga, do some particular poses I
can't name them, unfortunately,but it'll be great in the
(06:11):
morning It'll really help mekind of just like invigorate
everything.
And then there's times where,like, I'll try something a
little bit different, but Ireally do feel like it
stimulates everything and itkind of gets me, you know,
moving, gets my heart going alittle bit, you know, and uh, I
(06:32):
really have found a, uh, a newway to kind of connect with
myself.
You know, um, you, youmentioned meditation too.
You know, how do you think likeyoga and meditation kind of go
together?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well.
So what I was taught butthere's many different
perspectives is the movements,like the sole purpose of them
were really to get you in aplace of stillness.
So I don't know if you're intosomatics or any of that kind of
stuff, for you know you've gotto shake it out, move it out and
then you can go inwards.
So the poses are a really greatway to a strength in the body,
(07:14):
cause I mean, yogis would dolike really intense breath
practices that like I've neverattempted, you know um, and just
like really intense things, andso they had to have strong
bodies and in general, your bodyshould be strong.
It's ideal, obviously but alsolike moving through emotions
stuck in the body, movingthrough thoughts that are stuck
in the body.
(07:34):
We don't realize how connectedour mind and our body is in that
way, but, for example, inWestern psychology they've now
shown that the body keeps thescore.
Have you heard of that?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Have you heard of that?
So it's like most of yourtraumas are stored in your body,
not your mind, your mind.
There's only so much you canmind to get out of that.
But if you move your body,that's how you can really move
through things.
So I think yoga kind of knewthat and so I feel like it's so
connected Move the body, getconnected to your body.
(08:08):
That is a meditation, beingwith or moving meditation, but a
meditation.
And then if you really want tosit in stillness in a still
meditation, it's just that mucheasier to be with yourself
because you've acquaintedyourself.
You've acquainted yourself withevery muscle, as you've known.
If you're doing yoga, it's likeevery single thing is so
(08:31):
adjusted, you know, and thenyou've also again, like you've
allowed energy, emotion to moveout of you as well through those
movements.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So yeah, wow, I love that and so wait.
So you mean to tell me thatthere's trauma like hidden in,
like my bicep somewhere, like isit muscle or like what do you?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
think it really depends on the person.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Like dig a little bit into that Cause.
I think that's a really greatpoint and I think it can also
help people who maybe arestruggling with some like mental
, you know health issues thatmaybe it's not all you know
stuck up there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, totally not.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That they have opportunities to.
You know, deal with certainthings and don't have to.
You know it doesn't have to belike a one track mind.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, because so like I mean, I was even taught this
before I studied somatics, wherewe would be teaching hip
openers and we'd be warned byour trainers like hey, just so
you know, like hip openers movea lot of like sadness and
emotion in general.
So be aware of that when you'recueing them, like, help them
(09:43):
breathe through it.
You know?
So even yeah, just like subtlethings in different body parts
can hold different things.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Do you, can you give me a possible like experience
where you felt that, yeah, so Ilet me take a sip of water.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, of course, of course.
I think we'll move Cheers tothat.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
To your part.
Yes, cheers, cheers.
We'll both do that.
Cheers to that dear part.
So I'm not gonna I'm not gonnaget into too many details but
yeah, um, about five years ago,I was dealing with some really
um, tough health issues and alsogrief and among other things
(10:25):
like that, and during that time,like I had seen like every
doctor you could see for thesethings and no one had helped me,
and my friend actuallydiscovered somatic movement
healing and it's really likeyou're healing through dance and
song.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And it's kind of amazing and I started doing
these practices and among my own, like I would do the guided
practices and just like, turn onmusic and do my own, yeah, and
I started to feel better.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Like instantly.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, like like I started noticing a difference
immediately and then, withinabout a month of doing it, a
bunch of my health thingsresolved.
Really yeah about a month ofdoing it a bunch of my health
things resolved, really, yeah,and a bunch of my, and I think a
lot of it has to do with thestress.
You know like, if you'restressed, if you're holding in a
lot of intense emotion in yourbody, your body cannot heal from
things that it normally canheal from, you know, those just
(11:18):
get stagnant.
But if you let go of that andyou start, you know, lowering
your cortisol levels, yougetting into a place of more
peace, then your body can, youknow, rest and digest, repair.
Um, and so that was, I think, abig, a big thing for me.
Um, you know, the practices canbe anything you want them to be
(11:38):
, but they can also be likeguided Um, there's different
movements that we as humans havepatterns of doing.
So, like anger will typically,like you know, kind of do
punching motions right right umdisgust.
Pushing, spitting, gagging I'mserious like those are very for
sure like, so, like those thingscan come up bodily functions
(12:00):
right, um, and, and you can evenlike kind of bring that about
if you're trying to move throughit, like I was trying to move
through disgust and like.
So I was like you know what?
I'm going to just startspitting.
Oh shoot, there you go and so Iwas like you know, I've done.
That I mean alone, but I'vedone that, of course.
But then you know, joy, I mean,there's all these different.
Smiling and laughing differentsmiling and laughing, right,
(12:26):
yeah, and like and just kind ofallowing that to be, I think
like as children we were so goodat that.
Yeah, we were so good at likeexpressing and letting go yes
which you know.
There's a reason.
We were taught not to like havea tantrum, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But we could have been taught to like okay, like,
learn some breath techniques, goto your car, go to your room
and let that out physically soyou don't hold it yeah, and and
it doesn't have to be likedirected towards anyone you know
or any, of course thing, Ithink that's the important thing
is, like you know, making surethat you're doing that, uh, not
(13:00):
like in a controlled setting,but like like you know, you, I
think it has a lot to do with,like the intention of it, right,
and like, maybe, like in yourmind it really made me think
about what you were talkingabout and with with health
problems, and I feel likesometimes we in our mind, like
(13:23):
we get so like anxious, you knowabout like a specific thing and
we focus on that, that onething that, like, we're not able
to, I mean, think about, like,if you're staring at one
specific point, like you know,you're not able to look around
and see the other things thatare happening.
You know yeah that they can doif they feel like they're, is
(13:43):
there like a first step thatthey can do to maybe, like you
(14:06):
know, practice something likethis, do you think?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, there's definitely amazing teachers that
I do recommend, but there's,you know.
I will send you the name of thebook and you can put it in the
description yeah, we can put itin.
There's a great book about thisand they talk about the five
rhythms of our body oh wow, andthey kind of teach the basics of
it in that book.
Um, but also, like you havefeet that can move, walk around
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your space yeah you know youhave arms, maybe give them a
little shake yeah um your breath.
Great place to start you know,that's so important and then
doing like doing guidedmovements can really help, like
doing like yoga, something likethat.
Before you can maybe enter thatmore free movement space could
maybe be good for certain peopleas well.
To give yourself structurefirst yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I could see maybe some people kind of like going
right into something like that,maybe like I don't know, like,
uh, you know tearing or likehurting something like oh no, so
that was advanced yeah yeah,yeah, okay, gotcha yeah, like
the stuff that I did.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, I am already a dancer, like I already dance.
I think for me it was reallyeasy to fall into this.
I was like you know what?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
this is awesome yeah, you just kind of just like
maybe like incorporated twobirds with one stone there,
right.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I think.
The big difference, though, isdance.
Sorry, I'm cold.
Can I get my jacket?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, of course, here I'll get it for you yeah.
So you were talking aboutmixing, dancing and yoga, right?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes, I am in my jacket now everyone I got cold
jacket, now everyone I got cold,so now I have a cloak.
Yeah, so, oh, yeah.
So dance a lot of times istaught in a very structured way.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Flow dance, which is what I do now, very not
structured.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay To a degree.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I mean there's structure within it, but it's
also like you get that freedom.
Okay, Embodiment's all likeanti-structure.
It's like do your thing, let itflow.
If you need some structure,like a guide can kind of bring
you back to center.
Like an actual person yeah,like like a person or recording,
(16:23):
you know whatever okay um, orif you just kind of understand
the knowledge of it, you cancheck with yourself while you're
doing it, gotcha um, but I feellike the nice thing about it is
that there isn't like a rightor a wrong.
It just teaches you to followyour body.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, love that.
Tell me a little bit more aboutdance and how dance has
influenced you since you wereyounger, because the one reason
why I want you to talk aboutthis is because when we were at
the most recent not this pastone, but before the Rhythm
(17:02):
Royale that you know, matthewGroob, the producer here, puts
on you were not only singing butyou were dancing as well, like
together, and you just seemedlike you were so free and like
you just didn't.
Just seemed like you were sofree and like you just didn't
have anything on your mind and Iwas like man, I was like I
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could take a note from from herbook, you know, and I did, you
know, I kind of like.
After that, when I sang, I wasjust kind of a little bit more
like, let's see here, you knowlimber and I was able to move
around, so it was cool.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh good, I'm so glad, that helped.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, it did 100% and I think other people like
learned from it as well.
Like I was even talking tosomeone else and they were like
I love how she's just like sofree up there, just like moving
around.
You don't see people like mixthe mediums, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh, I see.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, they're either just like they're singing
and they're kind of just likereally rigid, you know, and like
there's some people who, likeyou, can tell that are like man,
like I wish that person wouldlike just be a little bit more
free with themselves, cause thenyou could tell that like they
could even express themselves,you know, a little more.
So, so dance.
Where did this all come from,um?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
honestly so dance.
Where did this all come from?
Honestly, so I did musicaltheater growing up and then I
stopped around high school, butI feel like that gave me a
really good background because Ilearned a lot of different
types of dance Performing youjust get more comfortable with,
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but then I kind of I feel like Ilost touch with it for a little
bit, to be honest, like I thinkI got more rigid because you
start to get taught like ifyou've ever been in like chorus
or anything like that you knowthey kind of are like.
You need to like stand still.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh, dude, I do remember that, the way that they
did teach you about yeah, thefact that like yeah and that's
I'm curious as to why they woulddo that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Honestly, I have no idea Like it baffles me.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean to each their own, but I don't think a lot of
people resonate with thatanymore.
Yeah so you know, it's maybe alittle bit dated.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But yeah, I think I kind of lost touch with it a
little bit and I got more stiffand, like you know, like certain
people, I think people can behaters sometimes and just like
make fun of people just becausethey want something they have or
they feel bad about themselves.
So you know, I had some peoplelike make fun of me on stage
being a certain way, and then Ifelt really stiff about it.
(19:34):
After it made me really stiff.
Um, I wouldn't say very stiff,but stiffer Like about it.
After it made me really stiff.
Okay, um, I I wouldn't say verystiff, but stiffer like I would
never do what I did here when Iwas in high school, like I
would have been so nervous to dothat right um, I just hope that
that can help people kind of ifthey've been
there it's like, yeah, you know,like that really sucks when
that happens, um.
But then, like I, you know, Igot a little older and I joined
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the burn community and I waslike these people rock, like you
know what I mean like they'reall just like completely, um,
just like artsy weirdos and likethey do not care how they look,
they do not judge each other.
In fact, they encourage eachother to act and be as silly as
(20:15):
they want yeah, love that,embrace the weirdness yeah.
So then I was like wait, this islike what I've always been, but
I've been hiding it and andthere's fire oh yeah, that added
.
That came later but but yeah,that the fire was also cool to
see them doing that.
At the time I didn't dance withfire, I was just like wow,
that's so cool, but um yeah, sothat was really inspiring to me.
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And then I just like one night,just at a burn, just started
dancing like I do and just beingwild and people were like that
was awesome and I was like Ididn't even know anyone was
watching.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Was there anything specifically that inspired you
to do that?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yes, was there Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, we don't have to discuss it here, but no it's
good to know that there was, youknow, um, a straw that broke
the camel's back that you knowkind of inspired you to, to make
a change.
So hopefully you know otherpeople listening know that, like
you know, at any moment therecan be one small thing or one
large thing that helps them kindof move in a direction that
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maybe they've been wanting tomove in, that they didn't even
know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Absolutely yeah.
And then after that, yeah, likeI just feel like my, I think it
was like it wasn't just likethis immediate thing, but it
just started to like I justprogressively got more confident
.
And then I would say honestly,my biggest peak of it was when I
started doing somatics to healmyself.
That was when I really was likeI don't care about anything
anymore, like I'm just going tolike be myself.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, I love that.
You know it was like I've.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm like, I've felt and seen enough, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Let's see here, gosh.
Okay, so we've talked aboutdancing, we talked about yoga.
Tell me a little bit about uhyour singing, uh background and
where that comes from, and uh,yeah where that comes from.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, um, I like I said I always was singing.
I just always loved singing, um, but uh, I got my first voice
lessons when I was 14.
Okay, and I did that throughoutmost of high school and then
afterwards I continued and youknow, eventually I found this
(22:29):
vocal coach who did I think it'scalled vocal pedagogy.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And she was a big deal for me because it wasn't
just the standard classicaltechniques that they teach.
It was practical for a popsinger Okay, I say pop as in
anything that's not classicalGotcha and she helped me to
really find the strength in myvoice, not the upper register,
but just in general.
(22:57):
Okay gotcha, so that I feel likeand a lot of that has to do
with just believing in yourself.
I noticed it was like, yeah,there was techniques, but a lot
of it was like trust that youcan do this, you know.
Trust that your voice can dothat.
What's holding you back morethan anything is your tension.
Your fear is holding your voiceback.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know what?
It's funny that you say thatI've recently, within the past
few years, have been able tolearn about the tension that
we're holding inside herethrough my vocal coach, chris
Alene.
And you know what she did?
She actually went under likeMRI machines and she studies
(23:37):
music through science.
Oh, cool, yeah, yeah, I thinkyou would really appreciate her
teachings.
And so she went under an MRImachine and a CAT scan machine,
like as she was singing, andthen also through like when you
know, most of like the tensenessoccurs in people and like
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scientifically it shows you that.
But the way that you said it,though, like the fear kind of
like the, I didn't really.
If they, you know, believe inthemselves and trusted in
themselves, and I think it alsohas to do with like not worrying
(24:28):
if other people are judgingthem, you know, do you feel like
?
I feel like how do you feellike judgments of people, kind
of?
You know why do you think thatholds people back so much?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Survival.
It's an ancient instinct, Likeif the tribe rejected you, then
you would die.
I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like, so you genuinely think, like primally,
it's like I'm going to die.
You're not going to, though, sothat can help to know that too.
To be like, hey, like I'mafraid right now, but it's
there's not an actual threat, Ifeel like.
The other thing is like when Inoticed that I can't really stop
my fear per se, but just likebe with it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Just like be okay with it and like the more you
just kind of are with it, themore you can like see through it
, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Be one with your fear , Gosh.
How can you?
I think it would be good tokind of dig into that for a
second.
When, say, someone is thinkingabout being judged or thinking
about someone else sayingsomething negative about them,
(25:36):
what do you think they can thinkinside?
What do you think they canthink in order to know that it's
okay?
Do you have any advice for that?
I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, what's the?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
thought process right .
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sorry, say it one more time.
I just want to make sure I'munderstanding.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Say someone is having a hard time with feeling judged
or that the people around themmaybe are being judgmental, what
do you think they either like amantra or something that maybe
they can tell themselves thatwill help them kind of be loose
a little bit and to really,because you're free, you really
(26:29):
seem like you have a lot ofcontrol over your mind, body and
your spirit.
How can you just maybe like oneor two ways to advise people to
be able to do the same?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's going to seem kind of counterintuitive, but
it's almost like knowing thatyou don't have control over your
mind, but that your mind isn'tyou.
So it's like starting to bemore of a witness and less of a
player in the game, Like let themind kind of talk.
Talk, but understand thatyou're more than just your mind
yeah you know and it's actuallya yogic mantra is I'm not my
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body, I'm not even my mind.
I am atman, which means I amlike the universal consciousness
.
I'm so much more than just thisyou know and remembering that,
and even like remembering thatabout the people who are making
you feel bad yeah can help.
And that doesn't mean you haveto forgive them because, like,
when you're mad, just letyourself feel.
It is how I see it, like, don'tbe like, I love everyone.
That doesn't work.
It just doesn't like you'rejust gonna right you're just
(27:26):
gonna be repressing that andyou're just gonna it's gonna
come out sideways yeah, but butjust understanding.
That can help too yeah, I feellike and and yeah, just kind of
being with yourself and thesomatics can really help there
too.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Love that Um to the somatics.
What?
What do you think Is there?
Maybe like an outlet that youcan recommend for people to find
somatics?
Or maybe like like playlists on, like Apple or something?
How can they, how can peoplefind something like that?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Um, I can also like put some give you some people,
but there's a really wonderfulteacher named Maya Knight.
She has some free content onher Instagram, on her website,
and she's the person who I wasfollowing initially and I highly
recommend her work Awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's really great.
Yeah, yeah, we'll include thatin the link below.
Let's see here.
Okay, so yeah, we've talkedabout let's.
Let's talk a little bit moreabout your.
How many different vocalinstructor instructors have you
had in the past?
uh, four, three, something likethat okay, and what do you feel
(28:32):
like?
Four, sorry, did you have youlearned something?
Did they all seem to kind oflike teach the same thing, or
just like not like to a degreethat maybe you were like needed
to learn?
Or like you know?
Do you feel like you could havelearned the same amount of
information from you know oneperson if you would have maybe
(28:55):
stuck with them for like thatlongevity of time?
Or do you feel like differentvocal teachers have like
different things to offer?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
yeah, for me I think having different ones was really
important.
Um, I think the initial likeclassical training can really
help with just like gettinginvolved with your breath and
like learning the basictechniques.
I think eventually, like when Iprogressed, it kind of got to a
point where I was like okay,like, but how do I apply this to
pop music, you know?
(29:25):
And so having that teacher whoreally specialized in that was
really great, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Sounds like, sounds like it would be, and I'm sure
like, yeah, depending on whatthat instructor has learned, you
know that's going to be thething that they maybe teach you
about, or the things that theymaybe will dig into.
You know, let's see here.
What about you do some modelingas well?
(29:51):
Yeah, Tell me a little bitabout how that started and kind
of where you, what direction youtook that since you started.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, how did I start ?
So it was kind of an accident.
I was getting hit up byphotographers and my friend, as
a joke, was like wouldn't it befunny if you like?
Made a modeling page and justlike saw if that worked out.
I was like, oh yeah, I'm soshort, though I doubt it.
And I discovered, um, and Ithink there's a big
(30:24):
misconception about whatmodeling is in like that world
and there is many differentgenres, um, and so I am a fine
art or art model oh cool.
Um, specifically, I mean I doother genres, but primarily you
would categorize me as an artmodel, and that doesn't just
mean for painters.
That means like the fine arts,the arts in general, gotcha.
So, like my photos are like theones that you would see in like
(30:46):
galleries, museums, versus likea runway models.
You know she's gonna rock theone, the wow walk the runway
words, got words I'm cold wordsare not happening, words are not
wording, um, you know so, soanyway.
So that was really cool to evendiscover that, because, um, like
as a kid, I always would watch,like America's next top model
(31:07):
and stuff and I was like oh,that looks like such a fun way
to express yourself, but I'llnever be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm sure there's, there's, there's that, that,
that thought, you know, in theback of your mind, what are some
of the other ways or what?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
are some of the other forms of modeling other than
fine art.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
There's glamour modeling which would be more
like Playboy style Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
There is catalog modeling, commercial modeling.
There's so many differentthings you could model for
commercials for pharmaceuticalcompanies.
I mean, yeah, that's commercialmodeling.
There's so many differentthings, gotcha, you know, like
you could model for commercialsfor pharmaceutical company.
I mean yeah, that's commercialmodeling, but that's like I mean
, I know of models who plan tomodel for their whole life and
that's their plan is to startdoing pharmaceutical modeling,
you know, for hemorrhoid creamsand stuff, right to each her own
(31:55):
right.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, I think the the , I think the fact that there
are so many different worldsupon worlds out there, and I
think even as far as a youngwoman who's out there who sees
particular modelingopportunities, is there anything
(32:17):
that like let's see here, isthere anything that you saw when
you were younger that inspiredyou to to become a model?
Was there anything that, like,you know any like artists or
let's see here, not like, Iguess, like painters, but like
maybe artists that likeinfluenced you when you were
(32:37):
younger, like with eithermodeling or just influenced you
in general?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
yeah, I mean honestly .
So I was obsessed with nude art, like I just thought it was so
cool, and so I had like a tumblrand I would like look at and
like repost photos and just likeI don't even know who these
photographers were honestly Like.
I just loved it.
I remember I have an aunt anduncle in California so they're
(33:05):
like, they were like veryprogressive and like her sister,
you know, was Tammy Stronach,who is the Neverending Story
princess and she's an amazing.
She doesn't really act anymorebut she does like, just like,
beautiful dance in New.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
York.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
City, and so I saw this photo on their wall of her
and she's naked dancing withthis male dancer and it's I mean
, it's a beautiful photoBeautiful.
She's a amazing dancer and Iwas like a kid and I was like,
why is Tammy naked?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Right, I'm sure that thought's going to cross your
mind.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, I was like what's this?
And I liked it, though.
And she was like, oh, that's mysister, she's dancing here.
And I was like, oh, she's naked.
And she's like, yeah, that'sart, it's nude art.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right.
And I think it's a beautifulphoto, so that's why it's on my
wall.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, love that and that kind of stuck with me where
I was, like you know, like Ithink just hearing that voice,
where it's like she recognizedthat as art, like I love that
form of art, so that was one ofthe main arts I I really loved
initially was just like figurework, um creating like raw
energy from the body, just likewith nothing else, um, nothing
(34:14):
else there intervening on it.
I just think there's a lot toit, there's a lot that can be
expressed and there's like avulnerability to it that you
can't really emulate withanything else.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I feel like you have to be.
You have to think a little bitdeeper in order to understand it
.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Right, because I mean , let me ask you this, was the
photo black and white?
Understand it?
Yeah, right, because I mean,let me ask you this, was the
photo black and white?
Yeah, yeah.
So I feel like like, okay, sothere's not as much color
involved, right.
And then there's not as muchlike, I mean, clothing.
We use clothing as likeaccentuation, you know, and
(34:54):
colors themselves and likedifferent patterns, so you don't
have any of that to kind oflike influence you.
So instead, it's really just Ithink it has a lot to do with
maybe like the setting thatthey're in to write.
Was it where they?
Was it also set in like frontof like a of a psych wall, like
(35:17):
a cyclorama wall, where it'slike no shadows or anything like
that yeah, it's just like darkand yeah very high contrast
lighting and yeah, yeah I couldsee that.
Um.
So yeah, I do feel like youhave to have like a certain
taste for for something likethat yeah, and and also like.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I mean I love art in nature, like, and maybe in
nature you will wear somethingyou might wear like a white gown
yeah or like fabric orsomething yeah but you notice,
like not much, you don't needmuch yeah, it's nature like we
are nature oh right, we arenature love that, and then, when
you're in, it's just kind oflike everything goes together
Speaker 1 (35:54):
yeah, I love that.
I really want to incorporatemore of that with my music.
And I had, like, this dream onenight where there was, like this
model and she was, she was, shewas naked and um and like, but
like there was this feeling thatI had and like I wasn't even in
(36:15):
it, it was just my music andher.
And I woke up the next morningand I had this feeling that I
was like man, this is something,this is something that can
really help me express my musicin a different way.
Unfortunately, I didn't act onit immediately, you know.
(36:37):
So the feeling itself and theinspiration behind it kind of,
you know, became lackluster, butthat, you know, the idea still
exists in my mind and you know,I really want to incorporate and
, you know, granted, she doesn'thave to be naked, but at the
same time, like I really do feellike incorporating like a
(37:01):
female body into, like my musicand like the way that it is
perceived, I think can really be, you know, helpful in me
experiencing and trying newmediums and ways of reaching new
people.
So I think you're going toinspire that out of me.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, you should play with it, I mean because it
seems so outlandish, but then inaction it's actually a really
common form of art and a lot ofpeople do it and a lot of people
love it.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, for sure.
Let's see here who were some ofthe.
I know you were speaking aboutum when we had that conversation
on the phone.
You were speaking about um, anartist that really inspired you.
Um, that was more uh, was.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I don't know if it was poetry or what do you have
um just like like film um andalso just like all of his, like
his tarot book and a lot of hiswork, uh, alejandro jodorowsky
yeah, tell me a little bit abouthim and what inspired you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Uh, you know, oh, yeah, water yep water time it's
important to stay hydrated let'sdo it okay, h2o, that's a huge
bottle like I know the thing isbig as you it's like really
excessive.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I wasn't thinking about it when it happened.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah right, you're like I need water for for my
conversation you have enough,though do we have plenty?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
um.
So, yeah, um, I like love hismovies um the the holy mountains
, like maybe the most famous one.
I don't know if you've seen itI haven't, but I'll look into it
.
Yeah um and his his movies.
Like he bases a lot of hisconcepts off of the tarot okay
um.
So if you like study his bookat all, or even like know a
(38:51):
little bit about tarot, you cankind of see it like intertwine
in his movies, which is reallycool tell people what is tarot.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
For people who don't know what the tarot is, I know
right we have to kind ofdescribe tarot.
Sometimes you have to pretendlike people don't you know
understand everything that we'resaying?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think right, so yeah, I'm like trying to think
of, um, I mean, in a way liketarot isn't like a lot of people
see it as like future telling,but it's more so like looking
into your psyche, and it waslike the original way of doing
that, like they would use thesecards in order to tap into
different parts of our psyche.
And so Alejandro Jodorowsky isso interesting because he and I
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do not remember the name of theguy he did it with, which is
terrible, because I should, butI will, you'll find out, I'll
find out, It'll come back to me.
I'm not great with names, butthey spent like a lot of their
life's work on recreating theTarot de Marseille, which was
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one of the most ancient tarotdecks, and so they basically
went around the world findingthe original art.
Um, like the original art, theywent like to museums, I mean
like everywhere, I mean you know, and all hondra jodorowsky's
from, uh, latin america, butthen he was in france when he
was doing this project and theystill continue to travel.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, it's just crazy yeah, I'm sure they had to
to find some of these things,yeah, and so they.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
They managed to do it , though.
Oh wow, so you can buy it.
It's the Terra de Marseille,the Cameroon edition.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
And I have it.
Yeah, it's like really cool.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
But if you look at these cards, you really do.
It invokes part of yourconsciousness that I can't even
really explain.
You just kind of have to lookat the cards yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Love that and you mean like invoke, like it
invokes, like let's see here,what does it invoke?
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like different archetypes within a soul.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh, I love that Good way of describing it.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
And what I find really interesting about this
deck is and maybe this isgetting into too many details
but the minor arcana, which islike there's like the major one,
which is like the story is likethe fool goes on a journey to
see the world and it's like youknow the main cards that people
might know about.
But then there's the minor ones, which is like the eight of
cups, it's like all the thenumbers okay you know um all of
(41:12):
those ones.
they're very abstract, likethey're not like a picture of a
guy or anything.
They're all like coins andthere's like flowers drawn
around them in different ways.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It's so abstract that it really gets you thinking on
a much deeper level.
I love that there isn't anyoneelse's consciousness that's been
projected on it, and that'skind of what this deck
represented was like we're notprojecting our own views, my own
experience of my psyche, ontothis deck.
This deck allows you to connectto your own psyche and project
(41:44):
your own experiences into thisdeck for yourself.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Let me ask you do you feel like in the world that we
live in?
Do you feel like we areprojected upon with either ideas
or thoughts or ways of thinking?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Of course I mean social media is the most perfect
example of that.
I actually recently had arealization about this.
My friend actually, I'm verygrateful for her for bringing
this up.
Friend, actually, I'm verygrateful for her for bringing
this up.
Um, there's like thisperfectionism that I feel, like
so many of us have that we don'teven realize we have, and like
for me it was manifesting inlike uh, like health and like
(42:26):
wellness and stuff, where I'mlike I have to go to bed at this
time and I have to do this andI have to eat, like that, and I
and I was like going, I was likethis is insane, like this is
not fun, like this is not okayand I was talking to her about
some like anxieties I was havingand she was like you know,
social media is really likesubtly projected all these ideas
(42:47):
onto us of perfectionism yeahand, like you know, we're human,
you know, and and a lot ofthese people are just trying to
sell you a product anyway.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, like most of people, are just trying to sell
you a product, anyway.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, you're right, most of these, people are trying
to sell you a product or theirprogram or their coaching.
There's nothing wrong with that, but you have to be aware that
that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, that subconsciously you have to
understand.
What do you think that peopleare using it for?
Do you feel like people areusing it for?
Do you feel like people areusing it properly?
Like how many of the percentageof people?
Do you really feel likeunderstand that that's even
happening?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
You know I can't tell you that, but I do think a lot
of us aren't aware of it yeah.
I mean my guess would be, a lotof us aren't aware of it.
I mean there's such an uptickin like plastic surgeries and
just like insecurities and stuff.
I think that's really big inour culture right now.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, you're right about that.
Let's see here.
We kind of dug into a fewdifferent things.
Here Is there, let's see here.
I think we were talking aboutgosh.
I know we were talking aboutsome of the inspiration that you
have and had, but tell me alittle bit more about what you
(44:01):
have for the future.
You were talking about an EPthat you're coming out with
sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I'm recording an EP, not an album.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, an.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
EP with a live band.
So it's just.
I'm really excited because Ijust feel like that's so.
The vibe that I've been missingis just having that like the
real musician, full effect, yeah, so I'm really excited for that
.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So what?
You have a drummer, a bassist,a guitar player.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
And then I'll play keys sometimes.
Oh cool, Not for all the songs,but for most, and then I'll
play keys sometimes oh cool.
Not for all the songs, but formost of them.
I'll be on keys.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Okay, nice, All right , so wait the piano.
How long have you been playingSince?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I was a kid.
I wouldn't say I'm good, butI've been writing songs since I
was a kid, so I would say myskill as a songwriter is higher
than my skills on the piano Okay, gotcha than my skills on the
piano okay.
But like I, I play the piano.
I just, um, I wouldn't like.
There's some people I know thatare just like insanely good
keyboardists, yeah, and I thinkI'm like really good, but I'm
not like I.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I haven't become like the next beethoven yeah, in
that department but um don't youlove musicians talking bad
about ourselves right, um, Iguess there's always another
musician that's better than youout there, see, see, there's an
insecurity.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That came out Right.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well, I'm here to help you through it, okay, so
let's see here.
There was something else Iwanted to ask you.
Oh, when it comes tosongwriting, how often do you
find yourself writing music?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You know I sometimes will have waves where I don't
write as much.
Okay, like I'll have maybe acouple weeks where I'm just not
super into it and then it comesback and I think that's there's
like a wave with it yeah, nicewith my sound healing.
I feel like it's like a moreconsistent flow, though, because
it's not.
There's like no lyrics that arelike pressurized.
(45:54):
I'm not writing a whole storyfor you.
I'm writing more of anexpressive story, which is
almost more feminine.
I guess the more feminine sideof music.
So that's been really funbecause I just feel so prolific.
It's like I make something andit's there.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Tell us a little bit about that page and what it is
and how people can find it.
I'll definitely be putting alink underneath here, but tell
me who was it with?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Austin Litz.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, it's called Cutriella and Litz.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
And wait a second, where did this idea?
Just so you know I am asubscribing member, just so you
know.
I found her page and foundtheir page and I was extremely
inspired by it and like they hadreleased something that day,
you know, that just shows youlike the time, attention and
(46:47):
creativity that they are puttinginto it.
But tell me, where did thatidea come from?
And you know, where have youtaken it since then, since the
beginning?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, I.
You know I've wanted to dosound healing for so long, I
just didn't know how.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
And wait.
What is sound healing?
Describe sound healing tosomeone.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
You know it's.
It's sort of like intentionalfrequency therapy is how I would
say I would describe it.
But I mean, sound therapy, inmy opinion, is also like,
whatever it is for you, you know, like if you find it healing to
listen to you know heavy metalthen, like, I think that's sound
therapy, but that's a goodpoint.
(47:30):
Certain frequencies andintentionality to what we're
doing, um, even certain vowels,sometimes certain um sounds, you
know, that are specific tohealing, maybe different chakras
, different centers of the body,um, different organs.
Even so, um yeah, it can gopretty deep it.
It just depends on, I guess,the individual though, and like
(47:52):
what they resonate with.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
And so when, when you know, before you make a video,
do you have these vowels andthese things kind of you know,
set to like what you're?
How much planning andpreparation, if you don't mind
me asking, go into somethinglike that, Because it's this,
Because it seems like a lot, youknow?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
You know it is, but it also isn't.
It is like we are veryintentional with what we do but
at the same time, there's thisflow element to it where you're
like you know what.
What's going to be the mostresonant is if we're in the
right vibe.
So if you overthink it, it'sjust going to be stiff.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
You know, and I've made videos where I was
definitely like reallyoverthinking it and I'm like
those ones didn't do so well.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
You know, it's so interesting how that works.
It's like they can just feelthat.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
So it's like, yes, like there's a lot that we put
into this, like a lot we put alot of hard work into it.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
But at the same is actually the vibes.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Like in really just wanting to resonate that healing
frequency with others andconnect to them in that way.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, I can also.
And what about you?
Like, what do you feel?
Like you get out of it?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I just love it, I just it's great.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, I mean I can see it, though I can tell that,
the way that you presentyourself, I feel like you
probably actually get the mostout of what you're delivering to
these people and the audience,because you are actually the one
who is 100% centered with whatyou're delivering, and I can
(49:31):
really tell that your emotion isin like every single syllable,
and I can tell it's funny tolike kind of like hear you and
see how small you are and thenlike kind of like hear some of
the sounds that you're able tocreate.
You know what about, likepost-production?
(49:53):
Is there any post-productionthat is involved with it?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, you have to edit the video, the sound design
and all of that.
So yeah there's definitelypost-production.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
That's a big thing, and are you involved in the
sound design as well?
Do you sit with Austin and kindof come up with that as well?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I mean, he is the audio engineer, for sure, but we
will listen together and kindof like bounce off each other
and yeah, um, but yeah, he'sdefinitely, I would say like
really, really good at audioengineering.
It's like one of his passionsin life and he loves it.
So I mean, I I think thatreally helps too.
Is that he really loves thatpart?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, you know, you can tell yeah and you can hear
it.
So that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Um, let's see here I think we went over.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
You know a lot of good, good stuff here.
Um, is there anything thatmaybe we didn't mention that?
Um, you wanted to either talkabout that you have going on or
that you've either done, aredoing now or have in the future
that you want to bring somelight to.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I mean, I'm still doing my sound healing channel.
I would love it if you guyschecked it out.
Awesome, We've got a lot ofgreat content coming up.
I mean, we film.
We try to have two videos aweek.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
So we're really just.
We try to keep it going so thatpeople can have that with them
every week.
This is not like an officialconcept, but I do want to start
talking more on that channel.
So that's up in the air, butthat's something that I think
would be really cool to do.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Just kind of like guiding people.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, like guided meditations, maybe even just
like bringing in some variousinsights throughout the month.
Yeah, like, yeah Like guidedmeditations, maybe even just
like bringing in some variousinsights throughout the month.
Um, so that would be.
I think that's something Ireally want to start doing is
bringing my voice in other waysthere as well.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Love that.
Yeah, that's so cool.
Make sure you go check out herchannel here.
Um, I have some cool littlequestions here that we're going
to.
Uh, yeah, we're going to gothrough here.
Um, usually do like a rapidfire, okay.
So with this, I mean we do wantto try and be, because we could
like talk about some of thesethings for a very long time
Right right.
But we want to try and hit asmany as possible.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I feel like I'm starting to get a little bit
warmer and of course we're likewe're almost done.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Like you know, it's like I'm like, yeah, everything
is great, yeah, everything'sgreat, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
And it's back to, like you know, that tenseness,
you know, and when you're coldthough, I know you like tense up
dude, I know.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
You know, Okay, so try and get a little warm here.
I need some warmth coming.
Come on, guys, bring it on.
Bring it on, bring on thatwarmth, okay you ready, all
right.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Can of someone in?
Speaker 2 (52:41):
your family, let's see it.
Oh yeah, just do it.
I'm gonna piss off today.
Yeah, come on, just do it.
Just do somebody.
Um, oh my god, come on.
You got this I'm doing the catyes, there you go, perfect, okay
.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Okay, name another country you want to visit oh, um
greece and why beautiful.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I want to go to the greek islands oh, I just went
there last year oh, you did, Idid.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I'm jealous, I dude I have a an island, amilos, you
have to go to, okay, okay remindme of that okay, for sure, all
right.
What question do you wishpeople would ask you more often?
Speaker 2 (53:14):
um, that's an interesting question I don't
know if I need people to ask mequestions no, but that's a good
one.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Is there?
Is there any question thatmaybe like?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
um, I guess I did just ask you like a thousand
questions too, so okay, whatquestion do I think people
should ask me more often um, um,um.
And why aren't we all dancingright now?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
oh, there you go.
All right, put it in the books.
I think mine would be um, areyou okay, like?
Are you okay?
Like, do you know?
Like?
Is there anything that you wantto talk?
You need to talk about?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
yeah, you know, I like that yeah, um, okay.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Have you ever eaten something weird, just to see how
it tastes?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, I feel like everyone has right.
Like someone's, like this isdisgusting, and you're like let
me see, yeah, let's try it.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Have you ever tried one of the hot chips?
It's like a one chip.
I forget what it's called.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Like the hot Cheetos.
It's not hot Cheetos.
I've had those.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
It's like a one chip that's got like the crazy amount
of spice.
But it's only one chip.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
No Trust me, you don't.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
You don't want to do this it's a singular chip.
It's a singular chip.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
In like a bag, or does it have a box?
It's a box.
It's in a box, one chip.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Okay, I got to see what this looks like yeah, you
got to see to fly or to readminds.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Nope, I would fly.
I don't want to read your mind.
I'm good, right, right, so goodon that.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I don't want to read my own mind sometimes Jeez, that
seems very loud.
All right, wait, my mind does,my mind seems loud.
All minds, all minds, yeah, allminds.
My mind is extra.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
My mind's loud yeah extra, yeah, very extra.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
All right, you ready?
What's the best ice creamtopping?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Anything chocolate.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I think anything, chocolate would be good.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Especially dark chocolate.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah for sure.
Would you ever want someone tothrow you a surprise party?
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I mean, yeah, ah, duh , that's a easy one Come on All
right if you had to movesomeplace you've been to on
vacation, where would it beGuatemala?
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Okay, so you've been there.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah, my sister lives there.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh, cool, yeah All right, shout out to sis.
Yeah, all right.
What is your favorite form ofpotatoes?
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Sweet potato the Japanese sweet potatoes baked.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
What?
Okay, you need to put me onjust baked.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Okay, you need, because they're like soft and
sweet and delicious.
I hate the word moist, but theyare moist enough.
I mean that's the word thatyou'd use to describe it.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I mean you know what can we say?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
it's like they don't even need butter, they're just
like on their own they'rebuttery already, they're buttery
already all right, okay,describe the person.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Describe the person, never mind you can't describe
the person to the right of you.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
You don't know my life.
You don't know my life.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
All right, describe what you think your life will
look like when you're 85.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Oh, how cute.
I will be in a cottage in thewoods as an old crone and I will
have a lot of plants around meand hopefully, grandchildren and
I will be friends with insects,snakes, cats and other various
animals.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Those are their homies.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay, so you're with the gang,basically.
Basically yeah, all right.
Last one Tell us your idealpacked lunch.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Oh, you know, as a kid I don't know why I really
liked those Lunchables.
I don't like them anymore, butas a kid it was so novel.
My mom's like they're bad foryou, so I would probably, as a
child, choose that.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Which one though?
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Like there was like a pizza one.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, I like that one , the pizza one.
Oh man, I like that one, thepizza one.
When's the last time you hadone of those?
Speaker 2 (56:54):
I literally don't even know.
It's been so long.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I think, as a you should make, you had to make
them they're probably so bad foryou.
I've heard they are.
I guess every now and then it'sokay, we have one last segment
here.
I have a phone somewhere here.
I have a phone somewhere here,wait.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
I do this all the time.
I understand how it feels Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
All right, so wait a second.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Oh my God, we got an old phone.
Oh, you know, I brought the oldone.
Wait, is this from like the?
Speaker 1 (57:30):
90s, maybe even the 80s.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
I feel like I'm watching like Friends or
something.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
This is the first cell phone ever made, just so
you know.
Ring, ring, ring.
Oh wait, what's that sound?
Oh, okay, this is Catriella theyoung.
Catriella, catriella, okay,wait a second, you don't know me
.
I have somebody here who wantsto have a conversation with you
and tell you something Righthere.
(57:57):
Here you go.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Oh, hello there.
This is like psych, word worthy.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
It's okay, we're here , we're here.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
We're here, we're with it.
This is somatic.
Okay, don't be afraid of somuch, because you know a lot of
things actually aren't thatscary.
If you walk up to the lineyou'll realize it's just a tiny
cat.
Seriously, get on stage, shakeit.
Uh, trust your instincts.
(58:29):
Your intuition's actuallyalways right.
Trust me on that.
Someone's going to sayotherwise and don't hold back.
Yeah, tell her you love her, Ilove you yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Hey, listen, you end up being a pretty awesome human
and don't change a thing and doexactly what she just told you.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
All right, she's fighting you on it.
I know you ready.
Bye, bye bye, awesome.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh, that was so cool, awesome.
Good job, good job.
Well, hey, I want to thank youfor joining us, and I think the
best way to end this will be abreathing exercise, maybe just a
few minutes, kind of okay,water, break first water yeah,
water break my giant freaking.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
We're not sponsored by Deer Park, but it certainly
looks that way, dear lord.
Okay, is this even allowed like?
Speaker 1 (59:35):
I don.
Is that legal?
Is that a legal size?
Speaker 2 (59:37):
am I allowed to be doing this like I don't know?
okay, breathing exercise okay,so I'm gonna sit cross-legged
okay because it's morecomfortable okay if you want to,
you can so sit comfortablywherever you are, you can bring
the palms face up on your legs,taking a moment to feel your sit
(01:00:04):
bones connecting to the surfacebelow you, connecting to your
natural rhythm of breath, justbringing awareness Now, with
each inhale.
(01:00:25):
I want you to imagine thatthere are roots extending down
from your sit bones all the waythrough into the earth.
So it's each inhale breathingin, the roots are extending down
down into the earth below you,rooting you deeper and deeper
(01:00:54):
with each inhale.
Now, with each exhale,imagining that the roots are
becoming thicker and more robust, more solidly rooted.
(01:01:19):
So you inhale, the roots growdeeper, exhale, the roots grow
more robust, continuing thisflow.
(01:02:04):
Now bring awareness back to yourbody, now that you are firmly
rooted, and I want you toimagine that there is a white
light surrounding you, like anaura or a force field that
(01:02:24):
surrounds you.
You can also imagine it like abubble and positive, happy
energy and things dance aroundthis light.
(01:02:46):
Imagining joy, love andpeaceful energies dancing around
this aura, and any energiesthat do not serve you simply
(01:03:17):
fizzle away upon touching thislight and are repurposed in the
universe into something else.
Imagining those energies justfizzling away.
Now take a deep breath in,exhale it out the mouth.
(01:03:58):
One more deep breath in, exhaleit out the mouth, remembering
that you can always tap intothis protective light that
surrounds you.
I like to think of it like weare cells and this is our cell
(01:04:21):
membrane, and it actually keepsthe whole system of the universe
healthy when we stay within ourmembrane and we can still be
equally as close and as lovingto others, even within this cell
membrane.
And you can take your hands tothe heart.
(01:04:50):
Namaste, I bow to you the lightin me sees the light in you.
That was perfect I did say mousemembrane, but you know it's
okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
No, the imperfectness makes it perfect.
It's good love that.
Well, hey, thank you so muchfor that and, uh, thank you all
for joining us for this episodeof respecting perspectives.
We will see you on the flipside.
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