July 18, 2025 • 55 mins
Ever wonder what it takes to build a thriving creative community from scratch? Heidi Klotzman has been doing exactly that for two decades as the visionary behind HeidnSeek Entertainment, a Baltimore institution that's transformed how the city's diverse communities connect through events and experiences.
What began as college nightlife promotion has evolved into a multifaceted enterprise with three distinct branches: VIP influencer events that pack new venues with tastemakers, talent booking that places musicians and DJs in exciting venues, and promotional campaigns that drive authentic engagement. Through it all, Heidi has maintained a singular focus on bridging divides in a city often defined by them.
"Everyone knows everybody," Heidi shares about Baltimore's tightly-knit creative ecosystem. "I love the diversity, the different neighborhoods and backgrounds." This appreciation for connection runs deep—from her childhood watching her concert promoter father's work to her teenage bat mitzvah where she intentionally brought together people from every imaginable background. These early experiences shaped her mission to create spaces where genuine cross-community relationships could flourish.
The conversation reveals Heidi's practical business wisdom on "cross-collateralization" (balancing private events, public promotions, and talent booking to create stability), alongside vulnerable reflections on creativity and mental health. As she works on books about her father's entertainment career and her own journey, she emphasizes how self-care practices like acupuncture, meditation, and therapy form the foundation for creative success: "You can't be the you that you're destined to become if you're constantly trying to regain balance."
Whether you're an entrepreneur seeking to build community-focused ventures, a creative looking to navigate the entertainment landscape, or simply someone who appreciates authentic Baltimore stories, this episode offers a masterclass in turning passion into purpose. Follow Heidi on Instagram @heidnseeks and discover more about her work at HNSeek.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo Respecting Perspectives Podcast.
Again here you got AWOL.
(00:20):
And gosh, I have the owner ofhide and seek entertainment.
She is a entrepreneur of manysorts.
Uh, let's see here.
She is a very inspiring humanwho throws events and and shows
(00:41):
and different she's into likefashion and she has.
Let's see here.
She just has an awesome pointof view and she's great with
social media and, like you know,getting her message out to the
world.
And you know what, enough of myintroductions here, I have,
(01:03):
Miss Heidi, that's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm gonna hire you.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right, dude, come on, dude, I'm here, I'm here.
I have Miss Heidi Klotzman Isaid it right Known for hide and
seek entertainment, but yeah,tell me a little bit who is
Heidi.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh my, it depends on who you ask, right, I'd say I'm
a connector and a poet, daughter, friend, wife, somewhat
recently, Congrats.
Yeah, mazel tov to that, thankyou.
Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I mean we're all many roles you know, but those are
the first that come to mind.
Strong attributes Thanks, loveit.
Tell us a little bit about yourhistory, kind of like where you
grew up and kind of how youended up in Baltimore itself.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, so I grew up in Hunt Valley and then Phoenix,
maryland, like so in the county,and now in Pikesville.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, oh shoot, Pikesville Moving a little
closer.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But yeah, I started promotions at Goucher when I was
at Goucher.
I started, uh, promotions atgoucher when I was a goucher.
I started my business at goucher, um, while I was still in
school, promoting nightlife atclub one.
Rest in peace.
Um, but yeah, exactly, exactly.
So I started promoting thereand then, um, after a couple
(02:44):
years, there kind of branchedout to a lot of different
lounges and restaurants anddifferent concepts like rock and
soul and cupid shuffle, whichis like oh cool, which was like
a?
Um, like a singles mixer, dateauction for charity type thing.
And then glam rock, which islike like a fashion show, and I
had net glam also, which waslike networking for creatives
(03:07):
and and, uh, those in thefashion industry here and um, I
had an event called schmooze,you know that, which was like a
business networking event, andthen I hopped on so that's a
cool name yeah, yeah.
So there's, um, there were a lotof a lot of different concepts
and you know I was blessed tojust tour them, like around the
city different restaurants,clubs, bars, then graduating
(03:30):
towards hotels, and you knowmore, you know I was about to
say legitimate establishments,but I feel bad, because the
other ones are too right, forsure a little bit higher level
yeah, exactly a little moreupscale.
And so Hide and Seek kind oftraveled from that nightlife
(03:51):
beginning to me building anetwork of subscribers and then
me advertising all this otherstuff to them and people paying
to advertise to reach mysubscriber list, to advertise to
reach my subscriber list.
And then so over the years justthe concepts changed and with
(04:15):
aging, you know the demographics, you know kind of changed in
terms of you know where peoplewere at like mentally and what
kind of like, what kind of youknow concepts and themes that
you want to provide them thatthey would be receptive to.
So I was promoting more likecharitable events and concerts
and festivals, not all myself,but I was like a line item.
I was a promotional entity thatwas brought in to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And stuff at museums and all kinds of stuff that was
cultural and that was elevated,which is great.
And it brought me to this pointwhere now my focus, if hide and
seek was like a tree and therewere like three branches, it
would be like hide and seek VIPevents, which is like I curate.
I curate VIP influencer eventsor like media events for
(05:01):
businesses, primarily whenthey're about to open, uh as
like a vip opening, but also ifthey're trying to like
invigorate, uh, their venueagain after a year or two or
whatever okay, I can infuse thatenergy in there.
Um, and those are so dopebecause, like, basically, I'm
packing the place with likeinfluential people that are
(05:23):
documenting their message, theirvenue the whole time, and I
incentivize the guests to do soby by having a main prize, like
given away at a certain time forthe best content of the night
so far.
So we review that and peopleare.
You know it's not thatcompetitive but you know people
like to win and and there'sreally amazing prize, like
(05:46):
prizes oh, there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, that's a reason to yeah, I mean they would post
anyway, but like they post moreyou know because of this, and
then it's like a brand newspotlight that's never been
shown.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, steal it.
No, don't.
I'm not saying no, I'm not likethe idea in a different way.
Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm not thefirst one, I'm just saying it's
really helpful as, like you know, along with the arsenal of what
we do is really helpful and theplaces love it, because some
places, a lot of these new faces, like they've never been there,
(06:20):
you know, they've never evenheard of it right, there's a
restaurant or boutique or outthere, yeah, so I do it
primarily for restaurants andboutiques, um sometimes malls or
you know, uh, and also high-endum commercial real estate, when
it's opening and trying tolease out to young professionals
and gotcha and things of thatnature.
But yeah, so that's the the vipevents part okay, that's one
(06:41):
branch yeah, yeah, wow we'reback to the tree.
We're back to the tree yeah,yeah, no, your your dots connect
.
That's really cool mine arelike so, um, yeah, no, the other
branch, um, the second onewould be, uh, hide and seek
talent, and that's where I booklive music and djs for
hospitality, primarily like uh,restaurants, hotels assist in in
(07:03):
their programming on a regularbasis, not just like book
something once in a while.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I love that because then I can bring in a lot of the
talent that I'm friendly withand that I believe in into new
spaces and, you know, help themgain more income, exposure,
relationships, and that's veryfulfilling for me.
So, yeah, I also do book forspecial events, though people do
reach out, like for a weddingor for corporate or okay you
(07:30):
know, charitable event, theyneed a dj or they need, you know
, a soloist or they need a band,and I have an amazing roster
which our mutual friend neil ison.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Shout out to neon nines.
He was on this podcast a bunchof weeks ago and he hasn't.
I don't actually you know what.
He's got some music coming upat some point in the near future
, so keep an eye out for him.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He's a super talented producer.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, great guy too He'd prefer producer over DJ.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But you could be both .
You could be both Right, you'reright.
But you could be both.
You could be both Right, you'reright.
So the third branch is likehide and seek promotions in
general, because the booking isits own thing and the VIP events
are private, no marketing.
This, the hide and seekpromotion aspect, is public
(08:27):
events that need enhancedturnout.
So I'll be coming up withcampaigns to assist in promoting
whatever event it may be and orbusinesses, businesses that
need public promotion, differentclever ways.
Well, I'll utilize, maybe, likethat VIP event as one of the
tricks of the trade of ofintroducing that business, um,
in a marketing aspect.
But it would be.
(08:49):
These are like more like thepromotional thing would be like
you know my mobile subscribers,you know email blast and, uh,
you, know, social media I'msharing for them and all of that
.
So, uh, yeah, those are the,those are the, and that's cool
because there's private overhere, public over here, and then
the talent, and so you can, youcan balance all of it and
(09:10):
because so you don't want totrap yourself in just private or
just public, you know, or any,it's really important to have
yourself like crosscollateralized, like you know
across cross collateralize.
Drop the mic that's somethingmy dad would say.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That's probably why I said it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love it and I probably misused it, but I don't
know it actually made a lot ofsense, you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So you were saying you know you need to balance all
those different things in orderto why do you think that
balance is is so important?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
because if one drops I mean like, if you have one and
one drops, where are you?
Yeah, that's a good, you knowif you have one and one drops.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, that's a good point, you know if you have two
and one drops, you're still inbad shape.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So if you have three you know, luckily they won't all
you know drop it once At onetime but you have to be
constantly like replacingclients, you know, because
sometimes they only need you fora season.
You know, sometimes they wantto replace you with their own
internal um apparatus theyfigure out, or once they think
they figure out how to do it.
(10:10):
Yeah, and they understand likeum the process, but they can't
rep, they can replicate methodsand systems, but they can't
replicate your personality.
They can't replicate youressence and your energy with
people and, um, how you navigateand you know just uh, that's
very specific and particular topeople you know.
(10:31):
So that's what also makes mefeel like I am not competing,
because no one can be me.
They just can't no one can doexactly what I do, how I do it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, I mean maybe my, maybe my my ai
counterpart can oh shoot, shoot,not yet, you know.
Yeah, I mean maybe at one point.
Yeah, but like I see whatyou're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, but that's why I feel badly for a lot of people
out there that are constantlylike comparing themselves Like
you're the only you.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like your face, your voice, your experiences, what
you're bringing to the table,what you're bringing to the
table.
You know the kindness that youhave and how you let that
instruct.
You know you to spend that,spend that energy like on you
know your friendships and yourrelationships and your
colleagues, etc.
Like for me, just like, if youhave the uniqueness, if you're
(11:19):
being authentic and out there,no one can do anything about it.
I mean God bless them.
Let let other people do similarthings.
We can all do, you know similarthings, but I really strive to
be the best and to excel,especially in the area of the
tastemaker events.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And what has where?
Where has this drive come from?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I love how we're not doing all the pre-questions.
No, no, I'm good with thatputting you on the spot yeah, no
, no, I like that.
That's better.
Conversation is better.
Um, the drive comes from.
I guess, growing up in theentertainment field like my dad
was a pretty famous concertpromoter and cool and my mom was
an event planner also she stillis like, I mean, they're with
(12:06):
us, they're still with us okay,I just meant like was as in.
He doesn't do that anymore,he's in vegas um, she's here and
your dad's in vegas?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
yeah, yeah, he lives there with my stepmom, she's
amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
She was a talent manager too, so a lot of um yeah
for like big, big celebritiesand stuff and the same.
That's what he worked with aswell, and my mom.
When they would come to town atthe arena, she would actually
throw parties at the farm wherewe lived.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
For all the artists, like she did, an event for Earth
, wind, fire and Luther Vandross.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Teddy Pentegrast, all of his artists and like became
like family to us.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And sadly a lot of them have passed on, you know,
to ice and sadly a lot of themhave passed on but gotcha, but
yeah.
So I was inspired by watchinghim be powerful, charismatic and
commanding a lot of attention.
For you know, the, the music,the musicians, putting putting
everything together for theseshows is extremely tedious and
(13:03):
yeah, not easy you know, I meanall the things, yeah, all the
things, the halls and therentals and the permits and the.
You know the advertising and theum, the, the merch I mean, I
mean just like you know, andalso um the the pricing, I mean
everything, everything that goesinto the back end, which people
don't see, of the concertbusiness.
(13:25):
I was inspired by that becausehe was one of the original
independent promoters, beforethere was any conglomerates out
there.
Oh really, yeah, before anyonewas swallowed up and the people
that he trained and taught wentoff to be a part of those large
organizations and be significantparts of Black Nation and AEG.
(13:45):
They got bought out, yeah,later on.
You know no later on.
It wasn't when they were stillwith him.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But this was.
He was a huge concept promoterfrom the late 60s to the early
80s.
I'm writing a book about it, soI know.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Nice, we'll talk about some of your books.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, we will, and then again back into it in the
90s.
The earlier portion was mostlyMotown and classic rock.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Around 20,000 shows.
The later portion was primarilyhip hop and comedy in the 90s,
so I grew up in that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh wow, how many shows did you say he promoted
around 20,000.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Jesus.
He promoted around 20,000.
Jesus, because it wasn't just.
I mean, it was many years andit wasn't just the ones.
He did himself, he financedothers and he had buildings
exclusively all over the country.
Just for events.
No, I mean he would have thearena, he would be the
programmer, the exclusiveprogrammer.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So he would be controlling everything that went
in and out of the venues.
But yeah, I was inspired bythat because I just wanted to do
it on a small level.
And I started doing it on asmall level, like I had this,
the sickest bat mitzvah in theworld, because I had dj booby
and scotty b and reggie reg andmiss tony.
Two of them rest in peace oh,shoot when I was 13 and it was
(14:59):
important to me to have likeeverybody there.
I wanted to do stuff nobodyelse could do.
And what I mean by everybodythere I mean white, black, you
know.
Yeah, like wealthy, not sowealthy county city like you
know, asian, like everything.
I mean, it was really importantto me to do what was not
happening and there was no likesocial life at was and still is
(15:22):
for the most part, verysegregated.
And I wanted to you know Iwanted to kill that, you know,
so I so I had to facilitate itby my events.
So, starting from my batmitzvah, like everybody was
there from every background andthere was no event that you
could go to, like that, whereeverybody was represented.
It was either like all this orall, like all jocks or all that.
(15:45):
You know what I mean yeah andthat I took a lot of pride in.
And then later on I didsomething consequential.
I think in it was 98.
Uh, I put on a vh1 save themusic benefit at the house
because there was a chapter thevh1 save the music chapter was
here, it had been open but noone had um donated to it yet
okay, so I wanted um like fourbands, um locally different,
(16:07):
diverse bands, diverse audience,like five bucks a head, you
know, 200 kids, whatever okayand that wasn't contributing
that much, but I wanted the kidsthemselves to contribute, of
course, you know, versus justlike us paying out of some.
And it was great because I'mspank rock.
If you ever heard of him, umsounds familiar naeem went to
gilman and I was at roland parkand like we grew up together and
so I put him on and he rose tolike this dope fame um really
(16:32):
yeah, yeah, look up spank rock.
He's like super ill nice and um.
He was touring, I think, likeinternationally and just very
creative person, um, and so hewas on there.
Easy jackson, which you mayknow, this was, this was we were
17, 18, I um my friend, kathyschmoke, introduced me to him
and his and his um rap group wasup there too.
(16:55):
So these are two people thatreally progressed and made it
like in the industry.
You know, at least in myopinion, right um, and then we
had like some rock band sorry, Ican't even remember who it?
was, and then there was oh, it'scool.
There was another.
Oh, my friend, my friend ryanmcdowell.
He's amazing, too regulus.
(17:16):
Okay, you've heard of the gods,or like um.
There, there's like um pro andreg, like there's there.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I feel, I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, it's all good.
No, no, no, I'm going toconnect to you.
Okay, but he was the sickestfreestyler in high school, man.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh shoot, I met him at the fair we're talking about
early days At the Maryland StateFair.
I met him at like 15.
He was at Towson and he waslike yeah, I was freestyling at
the fair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
No, I mean it works with the girls.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It really does.
Yeah, popcorn just to the handof popcorn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Um, but he is incredible Um and he's still
doing it and we work together,cause I would write hooks and
you know cause I'm a writer, ohnice.
And um, but overall that's what.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I didn't know that.
So you write music too.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, not well, oh come on.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I mean no.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, I write poems and I try to turn them into songs.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Poems and hooks.
They're just hooks bythemselves, but I'm a great
writer.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm like I'm a great writer.
No, I think I'm a great writerand I think that I'm okay
vocally, like okay.
And vocally like okay, um, andI play guitar really badly, but
I tell people, when you put allthree, we have a guitar, will
you?
Oh, yeah, no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Um, I'm not gonna put you on the spot.
No, it's all good, but you weretalking about um your yeah, but
when you put it all together,okay you know the, the great,
the good and the bad.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It like kind of meshes into a place where it's
not so bad, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Plus I'm cute all right, that totally helps yeah,
yeah, that totally helps um,okay, so wait.
So, uh, there was somethingelse.
Oh, it was how we got here itwas why.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What did you get inspired by?
So all of that inspired me tobe a small, like microcosm of,
like what he succeeded at doingon such a large scale.
I wanted to do it on a smallscale, like and really like,
uplift baltimore and justbaltimore.
Like my dad was, like nationalyeah, you know some real
guerrilla and I'm like styleyeah, and I'm like, yeah,
(19:19):
grassroots here and um reallywant to um, you know, start here
, stay here, end here, typething, who knows.
But but I love the city and Ilove the surrounding counties.
I mean the counties are verymuch a part of the city in terms
of like um being consumers andcoming in and and um
appreciating the arts, and so Imean, for me it's it's a joint,
(19:40):
it's a joint situation, but butyeah, the parents definitely.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Let me ask you this what's your favorite part about
Baltimore?
What's your favorite thingabout Baltimore?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Just the grit, you know, the grit of the people,
the rawness and genuine, yeah,nature of a lot of the people
that that I've met, the factthat, like I mean, everybody
knows everybody, everyone'sconnected in some way more yeah,
yeah, exactly, and I love thediversity, I love the different
neighborhoods and the differentbackgrounds, and the dances and
(20:18):
and the and oh my God, like Idiscovered.
Yes, yeah, so I discovered itin middle school, like my
friends, yeah, my friends liketook me.
We go to Westview or securityand we would go in that one
store where they sell those,those mixtapes, the DJ Boobie,
(20:41):
like mixtapes and like it wasunique lyrics.
You know, for me at the time oh, definitely, I mean more so for
my parents at the time, but itwas.
But it was so fire like youjust couldn't not move to it
right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It did really make you want to move to this day,
like booby will go live orscotty b will go live on
facebook and I'm just like upand out like just losing weight
by the second right, you knowand um, yeah, they're so special
and they're such great people.
But nice um I was.
I was glad I picked them for mybum it's what's your favorite
(21:17):
restaurant in baltimore?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
my clients, of course come on I know who's the one,
who's the who?
If you would have to or not one, but like you know, so, um,
nick's fish house is like myheart.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
They have my heart because carly uh, I'm now a part
owner um is an amazing womanwho started there um, you know,
in in various roles and worked,worked and excelled throughout
the years and became, you know,an operator and then now like a
part owner and she really runs atight ship there.
And it's amazing for musiciansbecause the stage is ready, the
(21:54):
sound is ready, the sound techis there, there's coverage
overhead, so, rain or shine, youknow, you just come and plug in
and they compensate you know,musicians fairly.
So I've been able to, I've beenlucky to be able to assist Sean,
the main booker there, riley,who handles the sound with some
of the music each season, andthe DJs, neil I book Neil there
(22:17):
as well, but the crab cakes areamazing there.
The view is amazing, it's righton the water.
But I love that place not justbecause they are a client um, I
do influencer events there too.
I mean kind of combineeverything but because it's a
great spot and the food's dopeand the service is great.
You know, yeah, um, but blackswan I was booking the djs for
three years.
(22:37):
I did a couple influencerevents there.
Um, I love it there.
Uh, chris and the whole crewand and, uh, chef sayon is
amazing nice, you know all thedishes, like all the cocktails
and the vibe.
You know it's all black likewalls with like the black and
white photos of all theseinteresting cultural moments
yeah, and you have like the nestthat they dj out of and um
(23:02):
there's thought out years.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it'sbeautiful and yeah and and the
food really is delicious.
It's become like a really greatgathering place for a lot of
different creative endeavors.
Yeah, um, I mean there's,there's so many that I that I
like, but but those, um, I love,I love.
Uh, tony foreman's group, youknow um, the duchess is the
newest in the and, like you know, chingale, and he has milton in
(23:26):
and um you know, charleston andum, he was behind pazzo, you
know, which was, like you know,one of our favorites oh, for
sure, gosh I haven't thoughtabout that in.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Uh, in a minute.
Um, let me ask you this whatmakes you passionate?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
What makes me passionate?
What?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
makes you live a life of passion and kind of like.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's not really a choice, unfortunately.
I'm just passionate andsometimes overpassionate,
oftentimes overpassionate.
What?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
does overpassionate look like or sound like?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Just hyperactivity.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Just being hyper, I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Believe the hype.
Okay, believe the hype.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Believe the hype.
This is my friend's DJ company.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh, cool In the back, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
So what makes me passionate is just like, if
you're around things thatstimulate your brain and
stimulate your heart, likeyou're going to have passion.
I mean I love all thesetalented people that I get to
work with, like you know, easyand TT the Artist, and Nelly
Zeko and Shelby Blondell and,you know, honestly, soul like
(24:44):
Carlos Cubas, like all of theseFoon Show.
I mean all of these artistslike and I'm so blessed because
they're not just great like intheir skill set or in their
craft, like they're great people, they're great human beings.
Yeah, like I mean it's verydifficult not to have like a
real friendship Like I'll eitherstart out as friends and then,
(25:06):
you know, become like more of anagent to people, or I'll start
out, you know, as an agent andwe like become friends and then
a lot of times, family Nice,because you're so close knit you
have to be when you go oversuch like consequential.
You know things in their life.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And adversity, oh yeah, definitely Bonds you
things in their life.
And adversity, oh yeah,definitely bonds you.
Yeah, it helps you find thepeople that that you know, you
think are meant for you, youknow as far as like a community
goes, and it makes it easier toconnect with those peoples, you
know for sure like the passionis in the talent and the passion
is also like in um.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I I've always been like, passionate about justice
and like social movements andmusic and writing and the
movements they're allintermingled and film as well.
So, um, so all of themcollective, like all of them
together collectively, reallyinspire me to make art, to
amplify other people's art, um,and yeah, and bringing people
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together bringing peopletogether makes me passionate,
and bringing people of differentbackgrounds together, like I
said before, makes me reallypassionate, because still people
do not aim to do that, or maybethey do and really don't
implement it properly yeah youknow, and you have to have an
intention.
Yeah, you have to have intentionand not even just an intention
your life needs to be that youneed to be the example for that
(26:29):
like your whole, like it's notjust hey, let's, let's.
Let's throw a party and invite,like you know yeah races.
No, it's like you need thoserelationships and friendships in
your life way prior to havingthat um you know, incentive to
like, be politically correct orwhatever it is like you know
it's funny.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You say that it's kind of like the podcast here.
It's like I didn't realize howmany awesome connections I would
be able to make with peopleyou're super likable.
Oh, thanks yeah I appreciatethat, um, and like it's cool to
like be able to just like makeconnections with people, like on
a conversational level.
You know it really helps me to.
(27:10):
It just helps me with myconversations in general in life
, you know, because what it doesis it has me ask, it's it has
me asking more questions anddifferent questions that you
know really help people to kindof understand life and like what
they're going through.
And you know answers todifferent questions that
(27:31):
hopefully, like somebody canlearn and, like you know, not
have to like make a mistake, youknow, along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
But they're going to make the mistakes anyway.
You're right Because artists,creatives, don't like to be told
what to do even if it's intheir best interest.
Oh my God, oh my God, I swearlike I can't.
I don't know how many timesI've suggested firmly you know,
yeah, to an amazing artist thatthis song would be sick to cover
, or, you know, maybe we cannavigate social a little
(28:03):
differently, like maybe youdon't, maybe it's a chick and
she doesn't need to be, so outthere, you know, maybe she can
lead with other aspects.
You know her art and personality.
Or maybe it's a dude and he'scoming off like I don't know.
He's coming off not asintellectual as he really, as he
really is, because he thinksthis is what people want from
him, he dumbs it down a little,a little yeah yeah.
(28:23):
So there's so many ways thatlike I was a psychology major,
so like I kind of like I'm notjust looking at what they're
putting out, I'm looking at theperception coming back to them
and like I want to look out forthem and advocate and let them
know, like I mean I even do thiswith my husband, like he hates
me for it but like he'll, he'llshare stuff and I'll be like
honey.
You look, that's a little bit.
(28:44):
I don't know if that's a great.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
look You're honest.
You're just really honest.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean like, but for the most part
he's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He's fashionable and he's a curator of amazing, like
cultural events, as well, yeah,do you?
want to shout fashionable.
On IG I'm hiding seeksH-E-I-D-N-S-E-E-K-S, but when I
say what he was sharing, it'sjust like sometimes he'll get
over, passionate like me, andshare stuff that I used to share
(29:15):
earlier on.
I used to be very like, justboom, like this is my politics,
this is my religion, this is mythis, that, and that's great,
and I admire people that aresuper open about that stuff and
I will be, you know, one-on-onewith people.
But it takes so much energy outfor me to post about very
controversial things becauseyou're exchanging back and forth
and back and forth afterwards,because you have everyone's
(29:37):
opinions to deal with and youdon't want to.
you know, offend people that youcare about, but you still want
to be true to yourself and it'sjust like it's a hot mess for me
.
I would rather, you know, focuson what I can control.
You know, do good in the areasthat I can do good.
And yeah, I have been vocal andwill always be vocal about
certain things.
But to be overly vocal, to havea dog in every fight, you know
(29:57):
it, it really detracts from yourpurpose good, good point.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So let's see here.
Um, I want to segue a little.
Uh, I love what we're talkingabout, but there's something
really important I think thatyou should tell the audience
about your books.
Yeah, yeah, let's talk a littlebit about um circadian rhythm.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Okay, and uh, why did I forget reflections of it?
I think it's reflections ofit's been so long um,
reflections of a decade okay, sowe can, we can find them.
Oh yeah, amazon yeah, so theone is a book of poetry.
You can find them on amazon.
Just put my name in, heidiklotzman, and they'll come up um
.
And the other one um is is abook of facebook statuses.
(30:43):
It's's the best.
It's like 10 years of Facebookstatuses that I wrote, which
you'll see, some of that stuffthat.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I used to say your Facebook statuses, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
All yours.
No, is there any other?
People no, no, no no, they areall mine, but I curated them
Like I only put in the funniestand like the deepest, like
coolest ones, so it would belike a book of quotes that you
could get like inspired by andhave epiphanies from.
Oh yeah, there you go, yeah,yeah no, that's dope.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm excited I'm gonna order some yeah, please do.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I was gonna bring you some and I've of course,
blanked on it, but then there'sum.
I'm also, like I said, workingon one about my dad's tenure in
the entertainment industry andthe highs and lows and what he
experienced and what that'sgoing to.
That would be super impacted umthe world for better or worse.
You know it's a real story.
It's not just, you know, it'snot just like claps and laughter
(31:35):
and money.
It's uh, it was, it was a veryum.
It is extremely inspiring andit's also devastating.
You know a lot, yeah, a lot,along the way for him, for all
of us, um, that you know.
Love, love him, um, but and andI'm working on a memoir too you
know of just my, my own lifeand my own trials and different
(31:58):
things to maybe help peoplethrough some of the things that
I've, I've been through, but Idon't know if I'll ever really
put that out because it's sopersonal.
His, I don't know if we'regoing to put out, I'm going to
finish it, but I don't knownecessarily if that's something
I want to put out either,because it's the damage control.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, you have to think about where your mind went
a few times right.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, no, I mean, it's just, there's a lot you
can't talk about.
You know from from certain eras, just just to keep privacy.
You know, for people keep theirconfidences and you have all
these estates to deal with, youknow, because people want their
loved ones to be remembered acertain way.
I'm talking about thecelebrities.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That that he promoted .
So Gotcha.
But I will finish it, and so Iwill have that masterpiece, oh,
at least for yourself, whetherit becomes a documentary or, you
know, a feature film or abestseller, or just a published
book.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, like I don't know what, what?
Um path?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
it's going to take, but it will be complete.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Oh nice, I like it's almost complete, that's
inspiring to hear, because thenI I think that helps me think
about some of the things that Iwould like to to to make and
finish and, you know, even ifyou don't finish it and like
you're, even if you finish itand it doesn't like become this
thing, like that, that shouldn'tbe the reason why you finish it
(33:18):
.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, a lot of people like publish to sell x amount
of stuff like I published tojust self-publish, like like I
always wanted to.
To accomplish that you know,with my book and I didn't care
if anyone got it.
I'd be happy if people got itand I wanted my friends and
other people I cared about tokind of get to know me through
that way, because the poetrybook at least is like from
middle to high school to now andit's chronological, like all
(33:42):
the poems you can see, like howthis weirdo, like you know,
became who she is.
So love that it's um, yeah, Ireally love that book and I'm
actually going to be editing itto add all the poems, since,
because I'm just like you know Idon't feel like putting out yet
another book.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I just want to like update that gotcha, gotcha kind
of re-release, in a way good,that's smart too, because yeah,
you know, you know, you'll knowwhen you're ready to kind of,
you know, make something likethat happen.
So that's awesome.
I'm looking to write my ownpoetry, or I'm writing my own
poetry book.
I just need to figure out howto uh, market it, um, and I have
(34:19):
a great person for you thathelps me.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean not just marketing, but helped me like
upload, helped me edit yeah, youknow everything.
I need that names aja and sheis nice amazing like she really
did the whole thing for me, so Icould just do the creative part
and just hand.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Oh, I'd love to speak with her because I'm very
serious about this yeah, and Ijust need.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I would love to read it too.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, I would love for you to read it.
Awesome, I'm excited to readyours too.
Um, let's see here.
Why don't you tell me a littlebit about what you have, uh, in
the future?
What do you have coming up inthe, in the, you know, coming
either months or maybe even likeyou know where do you?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
see yourself in like five years.
Oh god, like interview.
Well, I'm coming up.
I do have some great tastemakerevents coming up influencer,
tastemaker, vip, whatever.
It's all like interchangeable.
I have some great ones comingup this year which I won't
discuss where because they'realways private okay and you find
out about it like crazily afterthe fact and you're just
(35:28):
bombarded with it after, duringand after but, never before.
Um, so they're at somerestaurants and I have um some
other creative developmentsgoing on.
Um there's also, you know, alot of talent booking coming up
right now.
I mean well this, if this comesout later right now, um, I'm
working on preakness, um preakweeks coordinator um for this
(35:52):
year, last year and this year.
Um basically, preak weeks is anendeavor where um multiple
local small businesses uh selltickets for preakness and
giveaway tickets um thatpreakness has given them to give
away and um preakness in Returnis highlighting those
businesses, is getting them PRon TV and radio.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
For putting effort into getting the tickets out.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, yeah, they have their own QR codes and people
can buy tickets through them attheir restaurants and their
businesses, and they're alsogiving tickets to attend
themselves, the owners, ownersof the businesses and to give
away a pair, and there's aspotlight day where everyone
like spotlights on them.
This year is 19 businesses, sothe 19 days leading up you know
(36:38):
it's a Preakness, like the 12days before- Christmas or
whatever, all the businesses itis what it is Huh.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Each business has a day.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, each one has a day.
Today was actually Nick's FishHouse's day.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, sweet, but yeah everyone has those.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I'll pay attention to that.
There's Different.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Regard.
There's Prima, dopo, there's alot of great Restor's, lifemed,
there's a lot of greatbusinesses and so, yeah, so the
cross-promotional aspect.
And now there's four newbusinesses this year in Park
Heights, which is right wherePimlico and Preakness has been
to really have the outreach intothe community.
(37:17):
So I've loved working with themand interfacing with them and
being like their liaison duringthis, and everyone amplifies
their own brands and becomesricher and stronger because of
it.
I'm also doing some promotionfor the Preakness.
(37:39):
Festival which is the lead upfor the First Lady, dawn Moore,
and that's like some promotionfor the concert with D-Nice and
all these super dope throwbackpeople, yeah, yeah, and Shanti
Moore and Jadakiss.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So let me ask you this so is there not going to be
an actual like concert atPreakness, like there normally?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
is, there's normally that infield thing yeah, this
year it's like Ray Lewis haslike his own, like kind of his
own party within a party.
That's where the entertainmentwill be.
Wyclef will be in that and thenT-Pain I think will be at the
end after, I think, the lastrace.
So there are performances butit's not like the huge, like
(38:23):
infield.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Really they're switching it up.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Gotcha.
Yeah, I thought about that andI saw, so the events that are
happening at what likeMerriweather or like Pier 6,
right.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh yeah, it's at Pier 6.
Yeah, it is, I would plug it,but you're not going to see it
until afterwards.
Oh shoot, you're right, it'sall good though.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Go next year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly go to.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
If you haven't go to, go to the concerts and the
events surrounding freaknessfestival next year, um, but yeah
, I love being a part of thatbecause racing and um the
community and I mean encompassesall the elements like it's
fashion, it's fun, it's food,you know it's, it's um sport and
it's yeah, it's old sport.
(39:10):
You know what I mean.
It's again a lot of peoplecoming together and gathering in
our great city for a momentousoccasion, for celebration and
festivities.
And that's my forte.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So if you could go though like 10 years, 10 years
from now, what do you see?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Oh God, we're skipping from five to 10.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, let's go to 10.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oy vey.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Extra five years under your belt now.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
My dad's book will be done.
My memoir, hopefully, will bedone.
If it's an autobiography,though, like I, should probably
wait till I'm like old old, notmidlife old.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You still got to make decisions, though.
Yeah, like I should probablywait till I'm like old old, not
mid, not midlife old.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see .
Um.
Yeah, uh, my music album willbe done.
I released like no, I didn'trelease it, but I recorded a
song um at my friend, uh, tonycorelli's deep end studio oh
cool um, and he's great engineer, you're singing yeah, yeah, oh,
shoot okay yeah, and I meanit's just for me, like this is
my creative outlet, like I don'tcare if it's that's good
(40:15):
purchased like yeah I mean, if Iever get feel like there's
really like a song out therethat really has to be out there
for people to hear, like you'llmake it happen, but
um, so that, um, yeah, the, thebooks, the album.
There's other things that Iwould like to accomplish more
with the business.
I would like to scale it moreso that I can have more of a
(40:40):
life.
I'd like to delegate more andI'd like to have the hide and
seek talent part, have the hideand seek talent part, like I'd
like to have there be more of aprivate event element to it so
that I can focus, have haveportion of the agency focused on
corporate and weddings, becausethis restaurant and influencer
and all this, a lot of this isis very youth oriented and you
(41:03):
know, at my age, like I wassaying to myself, what do I,
what can I?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
do and really, we're all getting older.
Yeah, yeah, no.
What can I do?
Really, I'm messing with you.
We're all getting older.
Yeah, yeah, no.
What can I do?
What will have?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
longevity, and so, for me, I feel that what will
have longevity is these timelessevents, these timeless special
events that people will alwaysbe having forever.
And then I can supply talent forthose, and it doesn't matter
what you look like or how oldyou are or whatever.
It just matters what yourservice is and how great your
(41:34):
roster is and your track record.
So I think that that issomething that can go on
indefinitely.
But I always wanted to havehide and seek cures, which is
something where people would go.
They buy a ticket to a specificevent and then they could
choose, like a, from a dropdownwhere their ticket money would
go to like.
Casey, local nonprofit Caseycares or living classrooms,
Gotcha Leaders of tomorrow youthcenter Like that would be
(41:54):
amazing, Cause I really want todo do a lot more and give a lot
more back.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, I think, I think that's a great thought.
You know, how can, how can wedo a little more and how can we
give back to the communityitself?
How can we give back to thecommunity itself?
Do you feel like there's anyway that other people can do
that, can give back to theircommunity, that maybe they're
not like paying attention to asmuch, or at least like with some
(42:22):
of the events?
Like how can people support,you know, certain events?
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I mean, I think people can give back by like
giving birth to their ideas andimplementing them out, like.
I think, um, like one of themany, I always wanted to open my
own small space here that waslike cushy but like and very
exclusive, um, like very sexyvibes and uh, we'll see if we'll
(42:47):
see if that materializes, um,because it's one thing to send
all your people to everyoneelse's place.
And so I just, I mean, I'm justthinking to myself like why not
send it to your own place?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, I mean, I know, it took 20 years.
My company's 20 years old thismonth.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Oh, congrats.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Thank you so much, so cool.
But yeah, I did want to have aplace and in five or ten years,
you know, hopefully I'll, youknow, have had a child, or if we
don't go that route becausethere's all kinds of fulfilling
lives, definitely a Pomeranianor something of the sort.
A little yapper, yeah, yeah,something like that.
(43:29):
But yeah, there's so many waysto nurture impact in your
community and in your own innerworld, and procreating is one of
them.
So you know, we'll see, but I'mvery blessed.
I want my parents to liveforever.
I hope they're there and I hopeMo is there.
He's my best friend and my rockand always supportive.
(43:50):
Love that yeah, exactly.
But you said what can people doto support the events?
Yeah, well, you can follow me onIG at hideandseek
H-E-I-D-N-S-E-E-K I said thatalready and HNSeekcom
H-N-S-E-E-Kcom is the website,but HNSEEKcom is the website.
(44:10):
But if you follow me, you'llsee what I have going on.
A lot of times I'm just tellingmy life story like through the
IG stories.
Yeah, because like I wanted tobe a whole person, so it's like
you'll see, like an event.
I just went to an event that'scoming up like me with some like
super abstract quote, you know,or sharing something else, or
(44:32):
saying, or saying like we needto rise up against this, you
know, or we need to support thisor supporting something, yeah
and jokes, like you know, justfunny funny stuff too, and and
um, yeah, I mean life.
Yeah, people can.
People can support the eventsby watching what I'm doing and
when they're doing, they can seewhat I have going on and then
they can come and they can be apart of it.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, Love that I have a special section here that
we're going to pull up.
Okay, this is.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I don't know if I told you about this.
Yeah, in Novo too.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Okay, so I have a bunch of questions here that I'm
going to ask you.
Okay, and this is rapid fire,so off the dome.
I need you freestyling like thehomie.
All right, put 10 seconds onthe clock.
Would you rather be able tospeak every language or play
every instrument?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Play every instrument .
Speaker 1 (45:24):
If you could be good at something overnight, what
would it be?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Oh, that's not rapid fire.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, come on Good at something overnight.
What would it be well, that'snot rapid fire.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, come on, come on good it's good at something
overnight um eating, but thatwell, that's a superpower eating
without gaining weight, rightyeah yeah, okay, so I'd be super
good at that bang.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, would you.
Would the world be better orworse if no one carried around
phones both?
Oh, 50, 50, all right, all ofyour clothes have to be one
color, forever black.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
There you go all the sins oh, there you go, all right
.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Okay, let's see here.
Do you ever think about yourparents as kids?
What do you picture?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
oh my god.
Yeah, I just wish they could bemy age now so we could grow
together oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, good, good point, name something that
always puts you in a good moodpizza ah, what's toppings?
What's the 30?
What's?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
the three new york style extra cheese straight up
and last uh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
What do you think your favorite teacher does when
they aren't at school?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
back in back, oh, back in the day yeah, um, the
favorite teacher was a theaterguy and I.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
If you had a second job, what would it be?
Um a philosopher nice yeah likethat um, okay, let's see here
what is something that you don'tunderstand about the world
hatred, violence and math.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh shit the great I've never been great at math or
science, but I reallyappreciate it now and I'm kind
of, you know looking atinvesting in compounding
interest and how you can set upmore financially secure future.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Let's see here what would be in your perfect packed
lunch.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
The pizza would be back, of course, and mozzarella
sticks, because you just can'tget enough of the same thing.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, and like brownies from chopped salad, the
chopped salad place thebrownies are better than the
salads.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Really, the salads are amazing.
Okay, I know it's very weird, Idig it.
I dig it At.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Woodholm Center, that's like.
And they're not a client, Ijust go there Just smelling,
maybe.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Maybe there'll be a client now.
Alright, let's see.
If you could choose to be bornanywhere, where would it have
been?
Speaker 2 (47:56):
here, nice, good answer same hospital, sinai, to
the same people, maybe not atthe same time because, like I
miss, like the music, thethrowback music right you know
back in the day like thateveryone's sampling now were the
origins of everything Romanceand protest and everything,
(48:20):
everything we love and hold dearis just being regurgitated.
Now we put our own spin on it,but we need to respect our
elders in the history of musicand art.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
And how to show.
Appreciation to that.
Let's see here If you had yourown talk show, who would be the
first guest?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
You, of course.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh, good answer.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I was lying.
No, no, no, no, you would beOther than me, other than me?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, of course they can be living, or dead.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
No, you know, other than me, other than other than
me, yeah of course they can beliving or dead living or dead I,
I think I would bring mygrandma's back, yeah, and then
after that, uh, I wouldinterview our first lady in
maryland, uh, dawn moore.
(49:09):
Dawn Moore, because she's doinga lot for our community and to
uplift Baltimore City and bringfestive events to engage all of
us, and I just have a lot ofrespect for her, so she'd be up
there with you and the grandmas.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I love that, perfect.
And then one last one Pineappleor coconut.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Together, together and sparkling ice.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Oh my gosh, good, good, you're the first person
who said that.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, I mean, you haven't had sparkling ice.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Is that what sparkling ice is?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
No, I mean, there's so many different kinds, but my
favorite is, like Mo's friendMark put me onto it, it was like
this I think it's a pineapplecoconut, okay.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
And then you can mix it with you know rum or whatever
.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Right, whatever you want, nice, okay, I'm gonna have
to try that it's sparkling too,so it's perfect.
Okay, okay, and if I'm wrong, um, okay, gosh, uh, heidi, listen,
I think that, um, I think thatwe had an awesome conversation.
I think we were able to diveinto so many different things
(50:17):
throughout life.
Uh, you were able to give someawesome ways for people to
support their shows, events andcommunity, um, you know, but
highlight a lot of the different, um, you know, artists, aspects
of how to like appreciate anartist and like to really like
put them on with, like certainevents and things like that.
(50:38):
And, yeah, I mean, if you everhave any events in the future
that you need a dope lyricistfor, you know call your boy, uh,
call your boy, uh, no, no, yourshot.
Call your boy up, no, no.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
I actually took some time when you first connected to
hear what you have going on.
Nice and it's very unique to me.
Sweet I super, dug it and Iwould tell you if I didn't.
And so maybe we can collab oneday.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, I'm 100% down.
I'm actually putting togethermy first or my second album
release party, so I'm looking atvenues.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
actually, that's what I need your help on a song, but
yes and yes yeah, yeah we'll doboth, okay?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
do you have one little bit of inspiration that
you want to leave the audiencewith?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah sure, Investing your mental health.
I know everyone is saying thatright now and they're all
talking about it and thank God,I mean it's about time.
But the things that I do maybethey can help you, the things
that I do to restore my mentalhealth I go to acupuncture, I do
, maybe they can help you, thethings that I do to like restore
my mental health, or I go toacupuncture, I meditate, I go to
(51:54):
chiropractor, I mean I have awhole regimen.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
My whole life is self-care.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
I, you know, get massages Like I mean I do so
many things to.
I mean I emote, like you know.
I have a great therapist.
Um, I just make sure that Ihave an arsenal ready, you know,
for all the challenges, um, andthe tragedies that come up in
life, and if you're sensitive,they come up pretty often and
(52:23):
hit you hard.
They're not typical.
It's not just death and it'snot just illness.
I mean, there's like littlecracks along the way.
Rejections and, you know,miscommunications and all these
different things that you knowcan add up and like make you
freak out, right.
I mean, beside what's going onin the world, like the disarray,
you know, of everything, I meanthat has its own like, like
(52:43):
collective impact.
But yeah, so what?
I would say, um, find your ownthings that you love to do, that
restore you, that bring youback to center, because without
having a center, you know, youreally can't reach the potential
that you're meant to reach, youcan't be the you that you're
(53:04):
destined to become if you'reconstantly like trying to regain
balance, like you got to startfrom that place.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, you have to grow from that place.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, and it's not easy to get there.
I'm just saying, like you know,I'm I'll be doing this forever,
questioning and wondering andbut but definitely mental health
, huge it's been.
It's been, you know, overlookedfor so long and now people are
really coming out with what theydeal with, their specific
disorders and imbalances, and Icame out long ago with the ones
(53:34):
that I deal with and I'm reallyglad that it's become
commonplace for people to be outthere, because then other
people feel like they can be outthere and they don't have to
suppress yeah, you know, becauseit's not our fault Like we
didn't cause this, like wecame't cause this, like we came
out, like this you can all workon your problems together.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I think it's important in different ways.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
And there's blessings that come from these, like
neurodivergent and differentconditions that many of us have.
You know, the ability toconnect so deeply and the
empathy that we have for otherpeople.
And you know just appreciatingum, appreciating balance and
happiness and serenity, likewhen you get it, because, um,
(54:17):
it's not always, it's not alwaysthe default for for everybody,
it's just not nice love, thatgreat, great way to put that.
And your words were beautifulthanks, you're my manager now,
oh shit, I got you, I got you,I'll be your agent.
All right, all right it's alittle softy.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
All right, listen, perfect gosh.
Heidi.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Thank you so much for being here, and I'm sure
everybody who's listening alsois thankful for you and um,
thank you so much for firstputting the spotlight on a lot
of creatives and differentpeople making impact, and you
are also making your own impact.
You know your music, but alsoby doing this and you, you can
tell you genuinely care youreally do, I feel it, I think I
(54:59):
do, I feel you do you do, Iwould tell you.
If you didn't appreciate thatthanks.
I'm getting better readingpeople in my old age there you
go right.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
That's one thing that comes with it, um, okay, well,
hey, thank you all for joiningus.
Uh, on this episode of therespecting perspectives podcast.
All right, until we see y'allon the next one.
Peace out.
Yo Respecting Perspectives Podcast.
Again here you got AWOL.
(00:20):
And gosh, I have the owner ofhide and seek entertainment.
She is a entrepreneur of manysorts.
Uh, let's see here.
She is a very inspiring humanwho throws events and and shows
(00:41):
and different she's into likefashion and she has.
Let's see here.
She just has an awesome pointof view and she's great with
social media and, like you know,getting her message out to the
world.
And you know what, enough of myintroductions here, I have,
(01:03):
Miss Heidi, that's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm gonna hire you.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right, dude, come on, dude, I'm here, I'm here.
I have Miss Heidi Klotzman Isaid it right Known for hide and
seek entertainment, but yeah,tell me a little bit who is
Heidi.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh my, it depends on who you ask, right, I'd say I'm
a connector and a poet, daughter, friend, wife, somewhat
recently, Congrats.
Yeah, mazel tov to that, thankyou.
Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I mean we're all many roles you know, but those are
the first that come to mind.
Strong attributes Thanks, loveit.
Tell us a little bit about yourhistory, kind of like where you
grew up and kind of how youended up in Baltimore itself.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, so I grew up in Hunt Valley and then Phoenix,
maryland, like so in the county,and now in Pikesville.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, oh shoot, Pikesville Moving a little
closer.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But yeah, I started promotions at Goucher when I was
at Goucher.
I started, uh, promotions atgoucher when I was a goucher.
I started my business at goucher, um, while I was still in
school, promoting nightlife atclub one.
Rest in peace.
Um, but yeah, exactly, exactly.
So I started promoting thereand then, um, after a couple
(02:44):
years, there kind of branchedout to a lot of different
lounges and restaurants anddifferent concepts like rock and
soul and cupid shuffle, whichis like oh cool, which was like
a?
Um, like a singles mixer, dateauction for charity type thing.
And then glam rock, which islike like a fashion show, and I
had net glam also, which waslike networking for creatives
(03:07):
and and, uh, those in thefashion industry here and um, I
had an event called schmooze,you know that, which was like a
business networking event, andthen I hopped on so that's a
cool name yeah, yeah.
So there's, um, there were a lotof a lot of different concepts
and you know I was blessed tojust tour them, like around the
city different restaurants,clubs, bars, then graduating
(03:30):
towards hotels, and you knowmore, you know I was about to
say legitimate establishments,but I feel bad, because the
other ones are too right, forsure a little bit higher level
yeah, exactly a little moreupscale.
And so Hide and Seek kind oftraveled from that nightlife
(03:51):
beginning to me building anetwork of subscribers and then
me advertising all this otherstuff to them and people paying
to advertise to reach mysubscriber list, to advertise to
reach my subscriber list.
And then so over the years justthe concepts changed and with
(04:15):
aging, you know the demographics, you know kind of changed in
terms of you know where peoplewere at like mentally and what
kind of like, what kind of youknow concepts and themes that
you want to provide them thatthey would be receptive to.
So I was promoting more likecharitable events and concerts
and festivals, not all myself,but I was like a line item.
I was a promotional entity thatwas brought in to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And stuff at museums and all kinds of stuff that was
cultural and that was elevated,which is great.
And it brought me to this pointwhere now my focus, if hide and
seek was like a tree and therewere like three branches, it
would be like hide and seek VIPevents, which is like I curate.
I curate VIP influencer eventsor like media events for
(05:01):
businesses, primarily whenthey're about to open, uh as
like a vip opening, but also ifthey're trying to like
invigorate, uh, their venueagain after a year or two or
whatever okay, I can infuse thatenergy in there.
Um, and those are so dopebecause, like, basically, I'm
packing the place with likeinfluential people that are
(05:23):
documenting their message, theirvenue the whole time, and I
incentivize the guests to do soby by having a main prize, like
given away at a certain time forthe best content of the night
so far.
So we review that and peopleare.
You know it's not thatcompetitive but you know people
like to win and and there'sreally amazing prize, like
(05:46):
prizes oh, there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, that's a reason to yeah, I mean they would post
anyway, but like they post moreyou know because of this, and
then it's like a brand newspotlight that's never been
shown.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, steal it.
No, don't.
I'm not saying no, I'm not likethe idea in a different way.
Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm not thefirst one, I'm just saying it's
really helpful as, like you know, along with the arsenal of what
we do is really helpful and theplaces love it, because some
places, a lot of these new faces, like they've never been there,
(06:20):
you know, they've never evenheard of it right, there's a
restaurant or boutique or outthere, yeah, so I do it
primarily for restaurants andboutiques, um sometimes malls or
you know, uh, and also high-endum commercial real estate, when
it's opening and trying tolease out to young professionals
and gotcha and things of thatnature.
But yeah, so that's the the vipevents part okay, that's one
(06:41):
branch yeah, yeah, wow we'reback to the tree.
We're back to the tree yeah,yeah, no, your your dots connect
.
That's really cool mine arelike so, um, yeah, no, the other
branch, um, the second onewould be, uh, hide and seek
talent, and that's where I booklive music and djs for
hospitality, primarily like uh,restaurants, hotels assist in in
(07:03):
their programming on a regularbasis, not just like book
something once in a while.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I love that because then I can bring in a lot of the
talent that I'm friendly withand that I believe in into new
spaces and, you know, help themgain more income, exposure,
relationships, and that's veryfulfilling for me.
So, yeah, I also do book forspecial events, though people do
reach out, like for a weddingor for corporate or okay you
(07:30):
know, charitable event, theyneed a dj or they need, you know
, a soloist or they need a band,and I have an amazing roster
which our mutual friend neil ison.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Shout out to neon nines.
He was on this podcast a bunchof weeks ago and he hasn't.
I don't actually you know what.
He's got some music coming upat some point in the near future
, so keep an eye out for him.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He's a super talented producer.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, great guy too He'd prefer producer over DJ.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But you could be both .
You could be both Right, you'reright.
But you could be both.
You could be both Right, you'reright.
So the third branch is likehide and seek promotions in
general, because the booking isits own thing and the VIP events
are private, no marketing.
This, the hide and seekpromotion aspect, is public
(08:27):
events that need enhancedturnout.
So I'll be coming up withcampaigns to assist in promoting
whatever event it may be and orbusinesses, businesses that
need public promotion, differentclever ways.
Well, I'll utilize, maybe, likethat VIP event as one of the
tricks of the trade of ofintroducing that business, um,
in a marketing aspect.
But it would be.
(08:49):
These are like more like thepromotional thing would be like
you know my mobile subscribers,you know email blast and, uh,
you, know, social media I'msharing for them and all of that
.
So, uh, yeah, those are the,those are the, and that's cool
because there's private overhere, public over here, and then
the talent, and so you can, youcan balance all of it and
(09:10):
because so you don't want totrap yourself in just private or
just public, you know, or any,it's really important to have
yourself like crosscollateralized, like you know
across cross collateralize.
Drop the mic that's somethingmy dad would say.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That's probably why I said it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love it and I probably misused it, but I don't
know it actually made a lot ofsense, you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So you were saying you know you need to balance all
those different things in orderto why do you think that
balance is is so important?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
because if one drops I mean like, if you have one and
one drops, where are you?
Yeah, that's a good, you knowif you have one and one drops.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, that's a good point, you know if you have two
and one drops, you're still inbad shape.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So if you have three you know, luckily they won't all
you know drop it once At onetime but you have to be
constantly like replacingclients, you know, because
sometimes they only need you fora season.
You know, sometimes they wantto replace you with their own
internal um apparatus theyfigure out, or once they think
they figure out how to do it.
(10:10):
Yeah, and they understand likeum the process, but they can't
rep, they can replicate methodsand systems, but they can't
replicate your personality.
They can't replicate youressence and your energy with
people and, um, how you navigateand you know just uh, that's
very specific and particular topeople you know.
(10:31):
So that's what also makes mefeel like I am not competing,
because no one can be me.
They just can't no one can doexactly what I do, how I do it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, I mean maybe my, maybe my my ai
counterpart can oh shoot, shoot,not yet, you know.
Yeah, I mean maybe at one point.
Yeah, but like I see whatyou're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, but that's why I feel badly for a lot of people
out there that are constantlylike comparing themselves Like
you're the only you.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like your face, your voice, your experiences, what
you're bringing to the table,what you're bringing to the
table.
You know the kindness that youhave and how you let that
instruct.
You know you to spend that,spend that energy like on you
know your friendships and yourrelationships and your
colleagues, etc.
Like for me, just like, if youhave the uniqueness, if you're
(11:19):
being authentic and out there,no one can do anything about it.
I mean God bless them.
Let let other people do similarthings.
We can all do, you know similarthings, but I really strive to
be the best and to excel,especially in the area of the
tastemaker events.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And what has where?
Where has this drive come from?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I love how we're not doing all the pre-questions.
No, no, I'm good with thatputting you on the spot yeah, no
, no, I like that.
That's better.
Conversation is better.
Um, the drive comes from.
I guess, growing up in theentertainment field like my dad
was a pretty famous concertpromoter and cool and my mom was
an event planner also she stillis like, I mean, they're with
(12:06):
us, they're still with us okay,I just meant like was as in.
He doesn't do that anymore,he's in vegas um, she's here and
your dad's in vegas?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
yeah, yeah, he lives there with my stepmom, she's
amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
She was a talent manager too, so a lot of um yeah
for like big, big celebritiesand stuff and the same.
That's what he worked with aswell, and my mom.
When they would come to town atthe arena, she would actually
throw parties at the farm wherewe lived.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
For all the artists, like she did, an event for Earth
, wind, fire and Luther Vandross.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Teddy Pentegrast, all of his artists and like became
like family to us.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And sadly a lot of them have passed on, you know,
to ice and sadly a lot of themhave passed on but gotcha, but
yeah.
So I was inspired by watchinghim be powerful, charismatic and
commanding a lot of attention.
For you know, the, the music,the musicians, putting putting
everything together for theseshows is extremely tedious and
(13:03):
yeah, not easy you know, I meanall the things, yeah, all the
things, the halls and therentals and the permits and the.
You know the advertising and theum, the, the merch I mean, I
mean just like you know, andalso um the the pricing, I mean
everything, everything that goesinto the back end, which people
don't see, of the concertbusiness.
(13:25):
I was inspired by that becausehe was one of the original
independent promoters, beforethere was any conglomerates out
there.
Oh really, yeah, before anyonewas swallowed up and the people
that he trained and taught wentoff to be a part of those large
organizations and be significantparts of Black Nation and AEG.
(13:45):
They got bought out, yeah,later on.
You know no later on.
It wasn't when they were stillwith him.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But this was.
He was a huge concept promoterfrom the late 60s to the early
80s.
I'm writing a book about it, soI know.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Nice, we'll talk about some of your books.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, we will, and then again back into it in the
90s.
The earlier portion was mostlyMotown and classic rock.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Around 20,000 shows.
The later portion was primarilyhip hop and comedy in the 90s,
so I grew up in that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh wow, how many shows did you say he promoted
around 20,000.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Jesus.
He promoted around 20,000.
Jesus, because it wasn't just.
I mean, it was many years andit wasn't just the ones.
He did himself, he financedothers and he had buildings
exclusively all over the country.
Just for events.
No, I mean he would have thearena, he would be the
programmer, the exclusiveprogrammer.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So he would be controlling everything that went
in and out of the venues.
But yeah, I was inspired bythat because I just wanted to do
it on a small level.
And I started doing it on asmall level, like I had this,
the sickest bat mitzvah in theworld, because I had dj booby
and scotty b and reggie reg andmiss tony.
Two of them rest in peace oh,shoot when I was 13 and it was
(14:59):
important to me to have likeeverybody there.
I wanted to do stuff nobodyelse could do.
And what I mean by everybodythere I mean white, black, you
know.
Yeah, like wealthy, not sowealthy county city like you
know, asian, like everything.
I mean, it was really importantto me to do what was not
happening and there was no likesocial life at was and still is
(15:22):
for the most part, verysegregated.
And I wanted to you know Iwanted to kill that, you know,
so I so I had to facilitate itby my events.
So, starting from my batmitzvah, like everybody was
there from every background andthere was no event that you
could go to, like that, whereeverybody was represented.
It was either like all this orall, like all jocks or all that.
(15:45):
You know what I mean yeah andthat I took a lot of pride in.
And then later on I didsomething consequential.
I think in it was 98.
Uh, I put on a vh1 save themusic benefit at the house
because there was a chapter thevh1 save the music chapter was
here, it had been open but noone had um donated to it yet
okay, so I wanted um like fourbands, um locally different,
(16:07):
diverse bands, diverse audience,like five bucks a head, you
know, 200 kids, whatever okayand that wasn't contributing
that much, but I wanted the kidsthemselves to contribute, of
course, you know, versus justlike us paying out of some.
And it was great because I'mspank rock.
If you ever heard of him, umsounds familiar naeem went to
gilman and I was at roland parkand like we grew up together and
so I put him on and he rose tolike this dope fame um really
(16:32):
yeah, yeah, look up spank rock.
He's like super ill nice and um.
He was touring, I think, likeinternationally and just very
creative person, um, and so hewas on there.
Easy jackson, which you mayknow, this was, this was we were
17, 18, I um my friend, kathyschmoke, introduced me to him
and his and his um rap group wasup there too.
(16:55):
So these are two people thatreally progressed and made it
like in the industry.
You know, at least in myopinion, right um, and then we
had like some rock band sorry, Ican't even remember who it?
was, and then there was oh, it'scool.
There was another.
Oh, my friend, my friend ryanmcdowell.
He's amazing, too regulus.
(17:16):
Okay, you've heard of the gods,or like um.
There, there's like um pro andreg, like there's there.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I feel, I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, it's all good.
No, no, no, I'm going toconnect to you.
Okay, but he was the sickestfreestyler in high school, man.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh shoot, I met him at the fair we're talking about
early days At the Maryland StateFair.
I met him at like 15.
He was at Towson and he waslike yeah, I was freestyling at
the fair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
No, I mean it works with the girls.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It really does.
Yeah, popcorn just to the handof popcorn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Um, but he is incredible Um and he's still
doing it and we work together,cause I would write hooks and
you know cause I'm a writer, ohnice.
And um, but overall that's what.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I didn't know that.
So you write music too.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, not well, oh come on.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I mean no.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, I write poems and I try to turn them into songs.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Poems and hooks.
They're just hooks bythemselves, but I'm a great
writer.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm like I'm a great writer.
No, I think I'm a great writerand I think that I'm okay
vocally, like okay.
And vocally like okay, um, andI play guitar really badly, but
I tell people, when you put allthree, we have a guitar, will
you?
Oh, yeah, no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Um, I'm not gonna put you on the spot.
No, it's all good, but you weretalking about um your yeah, but
when you put it all together,okay you know the, the great,
the good and the bad.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It like kind of meshes into a place where it's
not so bad, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Plus I'm cute all right, that totally helps yeah,
yeah, that totally helps um,okay, so wait.
So, uh, there was somethingelse.
Oh, it was how we got here itwas why.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What did you get inspired by?
So all of that inspired me tobe a small, like microcosm of,
like what he succeeded at doingon such a large scale.
I wanted to do it on a smallscale, like and really like,
uplift baltimore and justbaltimore.
Like my dad was, like nationalyeah, you know some real
guerrilla and I'm like styleyeah, and I'm like, yeah,
(19:19):
grassroots here and um reallywant to um, you know, start here
, stay here, end here, typething, who knows.
But but I love the city and Ilove the surrounding counties.
I mean the counties are verymuch a part of the city in terms
of like um being consumers andcoming in and and um
appreciating the arts, and so Imean, for me it's it's a joint,
(19:40):
it's a joint situation, but butyeah, the parents definitely.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Let me ask you this what's your favorite part about
Baltimore?
What's your favorite thingabout Baltimore?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Just the grit, you know, the grit of the people,
the rawness and genuine, yeah,nature of a lot of the people
that that I've met, the factthat, like I mean, everybody
knows everybody, everyone'sconnected in some way more yeah,
yeah, exactly, and I love thediversity, I love the different
neighborhoods and the differentbackgrounds, and the dances and
(20:18):
and the and oh my God, like Idiscovered.
Yes, yeah, so I discovered itin middle school, like my
friends, yeah, my friends liketook me.
We go to Westview or securityand we would go in that one
store where they sell those,those mixtapes, the DJ Boobie,
(20:41):
like mixtapes and like it wasunique lyrics.
You know, for me at the time oh, definitely, I mean more so for
my parents at the time, but itwas.
But it was so fire like youjust couldn't not move to it
right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It did really make you want to move to this day,
like booby will go live orscotty b will go live on
facebook and I'm just like upand out like just losing weight
by the second right, you knowand um, yeah, they're so special
and they're such great people.
But nice um I was.
I was glad I picked them for mybum it's what's your favorite
(21:17):
restaurant in baltimore?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
my clients, of course come on I know who's the one,
who's the who?
If you would have to or not one, but like you know, so, um,
nick's fish house is like myheart.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
They have my heart because carly uh, I'm now a part
owner um is an amazing womanwho started there um, you know,
in in various roles and worked,worked and excelled throughout
the years and became, you know,an operator and then now like a
part owner and she really runs atight ship there.
And it's amazing for musiciansbecause the stage is ready, the
(21:54):
sound is ready, the sound techis there, there's coverage
overhead, so, rain or shine, youknow, you just come and plug in
and they compensate you know,musicians fairly.
So I've been able to, I've beenlucky to be able to assist Sean,
the main booker there, riley,who handles the sound with some
of the music each season, andthe DJs, neil I book Neil there
(22:17):
as well, but the crab cakes areamazing there.
The view is amazing, it's righton the water.
But I love that place not justbecause they are a client um, I
do influencer events there too.
I mean kind of combineeverything but because it's a
great spot and the food's dopeand the service is great.
You know, yeah, um, but blackswan I was booking the djs for
three years.
(22:37):
I did a couple influencerevents there.
Um, I love it there.
Uh, chris and the whole crewand and, uh, chef sayon is
amazing nice, you know all thedishes, like all the cocktails
and the vibe.
You know it's all black likewalls with like the black and
white photos of all theseinteresting cultural moments
yeah, and you have like the nestthat they dj out of and um
(23:02):
there's thought out years.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it'sbeautiful and yeah and and the
food really is delicious.
It's become like a really greatgathering place for a lot of
different creative endeavors.
Yeah, um, I mean there's,there's so many that I that I
like, but but those, um, I love,I love.
Uh, tony foreman's group, youknow um, the duchess is the
newest in the and, like you know, chingale, and he has milton in
(23:26):
and um you know, charleston andum, he was behind pazzo, you
know, which was, like you know,one of our favorites oh, for
sure, gosh I haven't thoughtabout that in.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Uh, in a minute.
Um, let me ask you this whatmakes you passionate?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
What makes me passionate?
What?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
makes you live a life of passion and kind of like.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's not really a choice, unfortunately.
I'm just passionate andsometimes overpassionate,
oftentimes overpassionate.
What?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
does overpassionate look like or sound like?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Just hyperactivity.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Just being hyper, I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Believe the hype.
Okay, believe the hype.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Believe the hype.
This is my friend's DJ company.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh, cool In the back, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
So what makes me passionate is just like, if
you're around things thatstimulate your brain and
stimulate your heart, likeyou're going to have passion.
I mean I love all thesetalented people that I get to
work with, like you know, easyand TT the Artist, and Nelly
Zeko and Shelby Blondell and,you know, honestly, soul like
(24:44):
Carlos Cubas, like all of theseFoon Show.
I mean all of these artistslike and I'm so blessed because
they're not just great like intheir skill set or in their
craft, like they're great people, they're great human beings.
Yeah, like I mean it's verydifficult not to have like a
real friendship Like I'll eitherstart out as friends and then,
(25:06):
you know, become like more of anagent to people, or I'll start
out, you know, as an agent andwe like become friends and then
a lot of times, family Nice,because you're so close knit you
have to be when you go oversuch like consequential.
You know things in their life.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And adversity, oh yeah, definitely Bonds you
things in their life.
And adversity, oh yeah,definitely bonds you.
Yeah, it helps you find thepeople that that you know, you
think are meant for you, youknow as far as like a community
goes, and it makes it easier toconnect with those peoples, you
know for sure like the passionis in the talent and the passion
is also like in um.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I I've always been like, passionate about justice
and like social movements andmusic and writing and the
movements they're allintermingled and film as well.
So, um, so all of themcollective, like all of them
together collectively, reallyinspire me to make art, to
amplify other people's art, um,and yeah, and bringing people
(26:06):
together bringing peopletogether makes me passionate,
and bringing people of differentbackgrounds together, like I
said before, makes me reallypassionate, because still people
do not aim to do that, or maybethey do and really don't
implement it properly yeah youknow, and you have to have an
intention.
Yeah, you have to have intentionand not even just an intention
your life needs to be that youneed to be the example for that
(26:29):
like your whole, like it's notjust hey, let's, let's.
Let's throw a party and invite,like you know yeah races.
No, it's like you need thoserelationships and friendships in
your life way prior to havingthat um you know, incentive to
like, be politically correct orwhatever it is like you know
it's funny.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You say that it's kind of like the podcast here.
It's like I didn't realize howmany awesome connections I would
be able to make with peopleyou're super likable.
Oh, thanks yeah I appreciatethat, um, and like it's cool to
like be able to just like makeconnections with people, like on
a conversational level.
You know it really helps me to.
(27:10):
It just helps me with myconversations in general in life
, you know, because what it doesis it has me ask, it's it has
me asking more questions anddifferent questions that you
know really help people to kindof understand life and like what
they're going through.
And you know answers todifferent questions that
(27:31):
hopefully, like somebody canlearn and, like you know, not
have to like make a mistake, youknow, along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
But they're going to make the mistakes anyway.
You're right Because artists,creatives, don't like to be told
what to do even if it's intheir best interest.
Oh my God, oh my God, I swearlike I can't.
I don't know how many timesI've suggested firmly you know,
yeah, to an amazing artist thatthis song would be sick to cover
, or, you know, maybe we cannavigate social a little
(28:03):
differently, like maybe youdon't, maybe it's a chick and
she doesn't need to be, so outthere, you know, maybe she can
lead with other aspects.
You know her art and personality.
Or maybe it's a dude and he'scoming off like I don't know.
He's coming off not asintellectual as he really, as he
really is, because he thinksthis is what people want from
him, he dumbs it down a little,a little yeah yeah.
(28:23):
So there's so many ways thatlike I was a psychology major,
so like I kind of like I'm notjust looking at what they're
putting out, I'm looking at theperception coming back to them
and like I want to look out forthem and advocate and let them
know, like I mean I even do thiswith my husband, like he hates
me for it but like he'll, he'llshare stuff and I'll be like
honey.
You look, that's a little bit.
(28:44):
I don't know if that's a great.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
look You're honest.
You're just really honest.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean like, but for the most part
he's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He's fashionable and he's a curator of amazing, like
cultural events, as well, yeah,do you?
want to shout fashionable.
On IG I'm hiding seeksH-E-I-D-N-S-E-E-K-S, but when I
say what he was sharing, it'sjust like sometimes he'll get
over, passionate like me, andshare stuff that I used to share
(29:15):
earlier on.
I used to be very like, justboom, like this is my politics,
this is my religion, this is mythis, that, and that's great,
and I admire people that aresuper open about that stuff and
I will be, you know, one-on-onewith people.
But it takes so much energy outfor me to post about very
controversial things becauseyou're exchanging back and forth
and back and forth afterwards,because you have everyone's
(29:37):
opinions to deal with and youdon't want to.
you know, offend people that youcare about, but you still want
to be true to yourself and it'sjust like it's a hot mess for me
.
I would rather, you know, focuson what I can control.
You know, do good in the areasthat I can do good.
And yeah, I have been vocal andwill always be vocal about
certain things.
But to be overly vocal, to havea dog in every fight, you know
(29:57):
it, it really detracts from yourpurpose good, good point.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So let's see here.
Um, I want to segue a little.
Uh, I love what we're talkingabout, but there's something
really important I think thatyou should tell the audience
about your books.
Yeah, yeah, let's talk a littlebit about um circadian rhythm.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Okay, and uh, why did I forget reflections of it?
I think it's reflections ofit's been so long um,
reflections of a decade okay, sowe can, we can find them.
Oh yeah, amazon yeah, so theone is a book of poetry.
You can find them on amazon.
Just put my name in, heidiklotzman, and they'll come up um
.
And the other one um is is abook of facebook statuses.
(30:43):
It's's the best.
It's like 10 years of Facebookstatuses that I wrote, which
you'll see, some of that stuffthat.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I used to say your Facebook statuses, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
All yours.
No, is there any other?
People no, no, no no, they areall mine, but I curated them
Like I only put in the funniestand like the deepest, like
coolest ones, so it would belike a book of quotes that you
could get like inspired by andhave epiphanies from.
Oh yeah, there you go, yeah,yeah no, that's dope.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm excited I'm gonna order some yeah, please do.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I was gonna bring you some and I've of course,
blanked on it, but then there'sum.
I'm also, like I said, workingon one about my dad's tenure in
the entertainment industry andthe highs and lows and what he
experienced and what that'sgoing to.
That would be super impacted umthe world for better or worse.
You know it's a real story.
It's not just, you know, it'snot just like claps and laughter
(31:35):
and money.
It's uh, it was, it was a veryum.
It is extremely inspiring andit's also devastating.
You know a lot, yeah, a lot,along the way for him, for all
of us, um, that you know.
Love, love him, um, but and andI'm working on a memoir too you
know of just my, my own lifeand my own trials and different
(31:58):
things to maybe help peoplethrough some of the things that
I've, I've been through, but Idon't know if I'll ever really
put that out because it's sopersonal.
His, I don't know if we'regoing to put out, I'm going to
finish it, but I don't knownecessarily if that's something
I want to put out either,because it's the damage control.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, you have to think about where your mind went
a few times right.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, no, I mean, it's just, there's a lot you
can't talk about.
You know from from certain eras, just just to keep privacy.
You know, for people keep theirconfidences and you have all
these estates to deal with, youknow, because people want their
loved ones to be remembered acertain way.
I'm talking about thecelebrities.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That that he promoted .
So Gotcha.
But I will finish it, and so Iwill have that masterpiece, oh,
at least for yourself, whetherit becomes a documentary or, you
know, a feature film or abestseller, or just a published
book.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, like I don't know what, what?
Um path?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
it's going to take, but it will be complete.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Oh nice, I like it's almost complete, that's
inspiring to hear, because thenI I think that helps me think
about some of the things that Iwould like to to to make and
finish and, you know, even ifyou don't finish it and like
you're, even if you finish itand it doesn't like become this
thing, like that, that shouldn'tbe the reason why you finish it
(33:18):
.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, a lot of people like publish to sell x amount
of stuff like I published tojust self-publish, like like I
always wanted to.
To accomplish that you know,with my book and I didn't care
if anyone got it.
I'd be happy if people got itand I wanted my friends and
other people I cared about tokind of get to know me through
that way, because the poetrybook at least is like from
middle to high school to now andit's chronological, like all
(33:42):
the poems you can see, like howthis weirdo, like you know,
became who she is.
So love that it's um, yeah, Ireally love that book and I'm
actually going to be editing itto add all the poems, since,
because I'm just like you know Idon't feel like putting out yet
another book.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I just want to like update that gotcha, gotcha kind
of re-release, in a way good,that's smart too, because yeah,
you know, you know, you'll knowwhen you're ready to kind of,
you know, make something likethat happen.
So that's awesome.
I'm looking to write my ownpoetry, or I'm writing my own
poetry book.
I just need to figure out howto uh, market it, um, and I have
(34:19):
a great person for you thathelps me.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean not just marketing, but helped me like
upload, helped me edit yeah, youknow everything.
I need that names aja and sheis nice amazing like she really
did the whole thing for me, so Icould just do the creative part
and just hand.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Oh, I'd love to speak with her because I'm very
serious about this yeah, and Ijust need.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I would love to read it too.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, I would love for you to read it.
Awesome, I'm excited to readyours too.
Um, let's see here.
Why don't you tell me a littlebit about what you have, uh, in
the future?
What do you have coming up inthe, in the, you know, coming
either months or maybe even likeyou know where do you?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
see yourself in like five years.
Oh god, like interview.
Well, I'm coming up.
I do have some great tastemakerevents coming up influencer,
tastemaker, vip, whatever.
It's all like interchangeable.
I have some great ones comingup this year which I won't
discuss where because they'realways private okay and you find
out about it like crazily afterthe fact and you're just
(35:28):
bombarded with it after, duringand after but, never before.
Um, so they're at somerestaurants and I have um some
other creative developmentsgoing on.
Um there's also, you know, alot of talent booking coming up
right now.
I mean well this, if this comesout later right now, um, I'm
working on preakness, um preakweeks coordinator um for this
(35:52):
year, last year and this year.
Um basically, preak weeks is anendeavor where um multiple
local small businesses uh selltickets for preakness and
giveaway tickets um thatpreakness has given them to give
away and um preakness in Returnis highlighting those
businesses, is getting them PRon TV and radio.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
For putting effort into getting the tickets out.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, yeah, they have their own QR codes and people
can buy tickets through them attheir restaurants and their
businesses, and they're alsogiving tickets to attend
themselves, the owners, ownersof the businesses and to give
away a pair, and there's aspotlight day where everyone
like spotlights on them.
This year is 19 businesses, sothe 19 days leading up you know
(36:38):
it's a Preakness, like the 12days before- Christmas or
whatever, all the businesses itis what it is Huh.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Each business has a day.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, each one has a day.
Today was actually Nick's FishHouse's day.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, sweet, but yeah everyone has those.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I'll pay attention to that.
There's Different.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Regard.
There's Prima, dopo, there's alot of great Restor's, lifemed,
there's a lot of greatbusinesses and so, yeah, so the
cross-promotional aspect.
And now there's four newbusinesses this year in Park
Heights, which is right wherePimlico and Preakness has been
to really have the outreach intothe community.
(37:17):
So I've loved working with themand interfacing with them and
being like their liaison duringthis, and everyone amplifies
their own brands and becomesricher and stronger because of
it.
I'm also doing some promotionfor the Preakness.
(37:39):
Festival which is the lead upfor the First Lady, dawn Moore,
and that's like some promotionfor the concert with D-Nice and
all these super dope throwbackpeople, yeah, yeah, and Shanti
Moore and Jadakiss.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So let me ask you this so is there not going to be
an actual like concert atPreakness, like there normally?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
is, there's normally that infield thing yeah, this
year it's like Ray Lewis haslike his own, like kind of his
own party within a party.
That's where the entertainmentwill be.
Wyclef will be in that and thenT-Pain I think will be at the
end after, I think, the lastrace.
So there are performances butit's not like the huge, like
(38:23):
infield.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Really they're switching it up.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Gotcha.
Yeah, I thought about that andI saw, so the events that are
happening at what likeMerriweather or like Pier 6,
right.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh yeah, it's at Pier 6.
Yeah, it is, I would plug it,but you're not going to see it
until afterwards.
Oh shoot, you're right, it'sall good though.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Go next year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly go to.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
If you haven't go to, go to the concerts and the
events surrounding freaknessfestival next year, um, but yeah
, I love being a part of thatbecause racing and um the
community and I mean encompassesall the elements like it's
fashion, it's fun, it's food,you know it's, it's um sport and
it's yeah, it's old sport.
(39:10):
You know what I mean.
It's again a lot of peoplecoming together and gathering in
our great city for a momentousoccasion, for celebration and
festivities.
And that's my forte.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So if you could go though like 10 years, 10 years
from now, what do you see?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Oh God, we're skipping from five to 10.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, let's go to 10.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oy vey.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Extra five years under your belt now.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
My dad's book will be done.
My memoir, hopefully, will bedone.
If it's an autobiography,though, like I, should probably
wait till I'm like old old, notmidlife old.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You still got to make decisions, though.
Yeah, like I should probablywait till I'm like old old, not
mid, not midlife old.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see .
Um.
Yeah, uh, my music album willbe done.
I released like no, I didn'trelease it, but I recorded a
song um at my friend, uh, tonycorelli's deep end studio oh
cool um, and he's great engineer, you're singing yeah, yeah, oh,
shoot okay yeah, and I meanit's just for me, like this is
my creative outlet, like I don'tcare if it's that's good
(40:15):
purchased like yeah I mean, if Iever get feel like there's
really like a song out therethat really has to be out there
for people to hear, like you'llmake it happen, but
um, so that, um, yeah, the, thebooks, the album.
There's other things that Iwould like to accomplish more
with the business.
I would like to scale it moreso that I can have more of a
(40:40):
life.
I'd like to delegate more andI'd like to have the hide and
seek talent part, have the hideand seek talent part, like I'd
like to have there be more of aprivate event element to it so
that I can focus, have haveportion of the agency focused on
corporate and weddings, becausethis restaurant and influencer
and all this, a lot of this isis very youth oriented and you
(41:03):
know, at my age, like I wassaying to myself, what do I,
what can I?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
do and really, we're all getting older.
Yeah, yeah, no.
What can I do?
Really, I'm messing with you.
We're all getting older.
Yeah, yeah, no.
What can I do?
What will have?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
longevity, and so, for me, I feel that what will
have longevity is these timelessevents, these timeless special
events that people will alwaysbe having forever.
And then I can supply talent forthose, and it doesn't matter
what you look like or how oldyou are or whatever.
It just matters what yourservice is and how great your
(41:34):
roster is and your track record.
So I think that that issomething that can go on
indefinitely.
But I always wanted to havehide and seek cures, which is
something where people would go.
They buy a ticket to a specificevent and then they could
choose, like a, from a dropdownwhere their ticket money would
go to like.
Casey, local nonprofit Caseycares or living classrooms,
Gotcha Leaders of tomorrow youthcenter Like that would be
(41:54):
amazing, Cause I really want todo do a lot more and give a lot
more back.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, I think, I think that's a great thought.
You know, how can, how can wedo a little more and how can we
give back to the communityitself?
How can we give back to thecommunity itself?
Do you feel like there's anyway that other people can do
that, can give back to theircommunity, that maybe they're
not like paying attention to asmuch, or at least like with some
(42:22):
of the events?
Like how can people support,you know, certain events?
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I mean, I think people can give back by like
giving birth to their ideas andimplementing them out, like.
I think, um, like one of themany, I always wanted to open my
own small space here that waslike cushy but like and very
exclusive, um, like very sexyvibes and uh, we'll see if we'll
(42:47):
see if that materializes, um,because it's one thing to send
all your people to everyoneelse's place.
And so I just, I mean, I'm justthinking to myself like why not
send it to your own place?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, I mean, I know, it took 20 years.
My company's 20 years old thismonth.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Oh, congrats.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Thank you so much, so cool.
But yeah, I did want to have aplace and in five or ten years,
you know, hopefully I'll, youknow, have had a child, or if we
don't go that route becausethere's all kinds of fulfilling
lives, definitely a Pomeranianor something of the sort.
A little yapper, yeah, yeah,something like that.
(43:29):
But yeah, there's so many waysto nurture impact in your
community and in your own innerworld, and procreating is one of
them.
So you know, we'll see, but I'mvery blessed.
I want my parents to liveforever.
I hope they're there and I hopeMo is there.
He's my best friend and my rockand always supportive.
(43:50):
Love that yeah, exactly.
But you said what can people doto support the events?
Yeah, well, you can follow me onIG at hideandseek
H-E-I-D-N-S-E-E-K I said thatalready and HNSeekcom
H-N-S-E-E-Kcom is the website,but HNSEEKcom is the website.
(44:10):
But if you follow me, you'llsee what I have going on.
A lot of times I'm just tellingmy life story like through the
IG stories.
Yeah, because like I wanted tobe a whole person, so it's like
you'll see, like an event.
I just went to an event that'scoming up like me with some like
super abstract quote, you know,or sharing something else, or
(44:32):
saying, or saying like we needto rise up against this, you
know, or we need to support thisor supporting something, yeah
and jokes, like you know, justfunny funny stuff too, and and
um, yeah, I mean life.
Yeah, people can.
People can support the eventsby watching what I'm doing and
when they're doing, they can seewhat I have going on and then
they can come and they can be apart of it.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, Love that I have a special section here that
we're going to pull up.
Okay, this is.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I don't know if I told you about this.
Yeah, in Novo too.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Okay, so I have a bunch of questions here that I'm
going to ask you.
Okay, and this is rapid fire,so off the dome.
I need you freestyling like thehomie.
All right, put 10 seconds onthe clock.
Would you rather be able tospeak every language or play
every instrument?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Play every instrument .
Speaker 1 (45:24):
If you could be good at something overnight, what
would it be?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Oh, that's not rapid fire.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, come on Good at something overnight.
What would it be well, that'snot rapid fire.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, come on, come on good it's good at something
overnight um eating, but thatwell, that's a superpower eating
without gaining weight, rightyeah yeah, okay, so I'd be super
good at that bang.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, would you.
Would the world be better orworse if no one carried around
phones both?
Oh, 50, 50, all right, all ofyour clothes have to be one
color, forever black.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
There you go all the sins oh, there you go, all right
.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Okay, let's see here.
Do you ever think about yourparents as kids?
What do you picture?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
oh my god.
Yeah, I just wish they could bemy age now so we could grow
together oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, good, good point, name something that
always puts you in a good moodpizza ah, what's toppings?
What's the 30?
What's?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
the three new york style extra cheese straight up
and last uh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
What do you think your favorite teacher does when
they aren't at school?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
back in back, oh, back in the day yeah, um, the
favorite teacher was a theaterguy and I.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
If you had a second job, what would it be?
Um a philosopher nice yeah likethat um, okay, let's see here
what is something that you don'tunderstand about the world
hatred, violence and math.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh shit the great I've never been great at math or
science, but I reallyappreciate it now and I'm kind
of, you know looking atinvesting in compounding
interest and how you can set upmore financially secure future.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Let's see here what would be in your perfect packed
lunch.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
The pizza would be back, of course, and mozzarella
sticks, because you just can'tget enough of the same thing.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, and like brownies from chopped salad, the
chopped salad place thebrownies are better than the
salads.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Really, the salads are amazing.
Okay, I know it's very weird, Idig it.
I dig it At.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Woodholm Center, that's like.
And they're not a client, Ijust go there Just smelling,
maybe.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Maybe there'll be a client now.
Alright, let's see.
If you could choose to be bornanywhere, where would it have
been?
Speaker 2 (47:56):
here, nice, good answer same hospital, sinai, to
the same people, maybe not atthe same time because, like I
miss, like the music, thethrowback music right you know
back in the day like thateveryone's sampling now were the
origins of everything Romanceand protest and everything,
(48:20):
everything we love and hold dearis just being regurgitated.
Now we put our own spin on it,but we need to respect our
elders in the history of musicand art.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
And how to show.
Appreciation to that.
Let's see here If you had yourown talk show, who would be the
first guest?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
You, of course.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh, good answer.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I was lying.
No, no, no, no, you would beOther than me, other than me?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, of course they can be living, or dead.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
No, you know, other than me, other than other than
me, yeah of course they can beliving or dead living or dead I,
I think I would bring mygrandma's back, yeah, and then
after that, uh, I wouldinterview our first lady in
maryland, uh, dawn moore.
(49:09):
Dawn Moore, because she's doinga lot for our community and to
uplift Baltimore City and bringfestive events to engage all of
us, and I just have a lot ofrespect for her, so she'd be up
there with you and the grandmas.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I love that, perfect.
And then one last one Pineappleor coconut.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Together, together and sparkling ice.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Oh my gosh, good, good, you're the first person
who said that.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, I mean, you haven't had sparkling ice.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Is that what sparkling ice is?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
No, I mean, there's so many different kinds, but my
favorite is, like Mo's friendMark put me onto it, it was like
this I think it's a pineapplecoconut, okay.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
And then you can mix it with you know rum or whatever
.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Right, whatever you want, nice, okay, I'm gonna have
to try that it's sparkling too,so it's perfect.
Okay, okay, and if I'm wrong, um, okay, gosh, uh, heidi, listen,
I think that, um, I think thatwe had an awesome conversation.
I think we were able to diveinto so many different things
(50:17):
throughout life.
Uh, you were able to give someawesome ways for people to
support their shows, events andcommunity, um, you know, but
highlight a lot of the different, um, you know, artists, aspects
of how to like appreciate anartist and like to really like
put them on with, like certainevents and things like that.
(50:38):
And, yeah, I mean, if you everhave any events in the future
that you need a dope lyricistfor, you know call your boy, uh,
call your boy, uh, no, no, yourshot.
Call your boy up, no, no.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
I actually took some time when you first connected to
hear what you have going on.
Nice and it's very unique to me.
Sweet I super, dug it and Iwould tell you if I didn't.
And so maybe we can collab oneday.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, I'm 100% down.
I'm actually putting togethermy first or my second album
release party, so I'm looking atvenues.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
actually, that's what I need your help on a song, but
yes and yes yeah, yeah we'll doboth, okay?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
do you have one little bit of inspiration that
you want to leave the audiencewith?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah sure, Investing your mental health.
I know everyone is saying thatright now and they're all
talking about it and thank God,I mean it's about time.
But the things that I do maybethey can help you, the things
that I do to restore my mentalhealth I go to acupuncture, I do
, maybe they can help you, thethings that I do to like restore
my mental health, or I go toacupuncture, I meditate, I go to
(51:54):
chiropractor, I mean I have awhole regimen.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
My whole life is self-care.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
I, you know, get massages Like I mean I do so
many things to.
I mean I emote, like you know.
I have a great therapist.
Um, I just make sure that Ihave an arsenal ready, you know,
for all the challenges, um, andthe tragedies that come up in
life, and if you're sensitive,they come up pretty often and
(52:23):
hit you hard.
They're not typical.
It's not just death and it'snot just illness.
I mean, there's like littlecracks along the way.
Rejections and, you know,miscommunications and all these
different things that you knowcan add up and like make you
freak out, right.
I mean, beside what's going onin the world, like the disarray,
you know, of everything, I meanthat has its own like, like
(52:43):
collective impact.
But yeah, so what?
I would say, um, find your ownthings that you love to do, that
restore you, that bring youback to center, because without
having a center, you know, youreally can't reach the potential
that you're meant to reach, youcan't be the you that you're
(53:04):
destined to become if you'reconstantly like trying to regain
balance, like you got to startfrom that place.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, you have to grow from that place.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, and it's not easy to get there.
I'm just saying, like you know,I'm I'll be doing this forever,
questioning and wondering andbut but definitely mental health
, huge it's been.
It's been, you know, overlookedfor so long and now people are
really coming out with what theydeal with, their specific
disorders and imbalances, and Icame out long ago with the ones
(53:34):
that I deal with and I'm reallyglad that it's become
commonplace for people to be outthere, because then other
people feel like they can be outthere and they don't have to
suppress yeah, you know, becauseit's not our fault Like we
didn't cause this, like wecame't cause this, like we came
out, like this you can all workon your problems together.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I think it's important in different ways.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
And there's blessings that come from these, like
neurodivergent and differentconditions that many of us have.
You know, the ability toconnect so deeply and the
empathy that we have for otherpeople.
And you know just appreciatingum, appreciating balance and
happiness and serenity, likewhen you get it, because, um,
(54:17):
it's not always, it's not alwaysthe default for for everybody,
it's just not nice love, thatgreat, great way to put that.
And your words were beautifulthanks, you're my manager now,
oh shit, I got you, I got you,I'll be your agent.
All right, all right it's alittle softy.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
All right, listen, perfect gosh.
Heidi.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Thank you so much for being here, and I'm sure
everybody who's listening alsois thankful for you and um,
thank you so much for firstputting the spotlight on a lot
of creatives and differentpeople making impact, and you
are also making your own impact.
You know your music, but alsoby doing this and you, you can
tell you genuinely care youreally do, I feel it, I think I
(54:59):
do, I feel you do you do, Iwould tell you.
If you didn't appreciate thatthanks.
I'm getting better readingpeople in my old age there you
go right.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
That's one thing that comes with it, um, okay, well,
hey, thank you all for joiningus.
Uh, on this episode of therespecting perspectives podcast.
All right, until we see y'allon the next one.
Peace out.
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