Refusal To Revival With Steph Compton

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Can one person’s choices ripple across a neighborhood, a coastline, even a culture? Steph Compton—organizer, zero-waste advocate, and movement lover—joins us to trace a path from Texas family roots and Interfusion Festival dance floors to door-to-door environmental wins and the everyday courage of saying “no” to single-use plastics.

We get practical fast. Steph breaks down composting as a climate lever anyone can pull, how methane forms when food waste hits landfills, and where to drop scraps so they become soil or feed. She makes a clear case that plastic is oil in disguise, recycling isn’t the rescue we hoped for, and the real shift comes from reuse systems: bring-your-own containers, returnable takeout programs that track and wash, and the long-forgotten milkman model reborn with modern logistics. Along the way, a raw memory from an Ecuadorian beach—waves draping plastic bags around her ankles—turns into a spontaneous cleanup that kids joined on the spot, proof that visible action sparks participation.

This conversation also honors the inner work. We talk co-regulation, breath, and why people who feel safe and connected are more likely to engage in sustainable habits. Steph’s “1% reduction challenge” is both humble and ambitious: skip one tank of gas a year, refuse one disposable item a week, choose one returnable container service. Multiply that by millions and the math moves. We weave in mushrooms, movement arts, and the joy of small wins—because lasting change needs both systems and spirit.

If you care about practical sustainability, plastic-free living, composting for climate change, and building community resilience, you’ll leave with steps you can use today and stories you won’t forget. Listen, share with a friend who needs a nudge, and tell us: what’s your 1% this week? Subscribe, rate, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Thanks for tuning in to Respecting Perspectives!

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
You're a Maryland boy.
Right.
So I love speaking with a Phillyaccent.
Joan.
Yo, let me get that joint fromouter there.
Got to.
It's like Baltimore and Phillylike have like a similar sound,
but there's like there's somelike twangs on some things that

(00:21):
like there's some twangs on somethings, you know?
And then it just like turns itinto a whole different, a whole
different thing.
Yeah.
Like John.

SPEAKER_05 (00:29):
John.

SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
John.

SPEAKER_05 (00:30):
John.

SPEAKER_02 (00:31):
What do you think of John?
What is a John?

SPEAKER_05 (00:33):
John.
That thing over there.

unknown (00:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (00:35):
Or a person place a thing.

SPEAKER_02 (00:36):
Person place a thing.
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (00:38):
That John over there.
Who's John?

SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
Right?
Who's John?
You're a shout out to the book.
Oh shoot.
Okay, you know what?
Shout out.
Let me just shout out.
I've always wanted to shout outJohn.
Shout out John Rush, my cousinJohn.
John Rush.
He's from Philly.
He's from Philly.
And that's my young bull rightthere.
Yeah, what up, John?
Yeah.
I'm like, John, go get the John.

(01:02):
Double John.
So, dude, so we start just kindof like out the blue.
Great.
And then we'll find a spot likeactually, here's how we start.

unknown (01:12):
Three, two, one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28):
Okay, listen, I have somebody with me right now that
is just so perfectly perfect.
And we're having such a funtime.
Um, I met this young lady uhthrough interfusion, and um she
really inspired me.
You know, I would definitelyhave to say, yeah, she's an

(01:50):
inspirational life force.
Okay, that's number one.
Okay.
I would say that she's also arenaissance woman.
If I mean, if I were to just putit out there, and I would
definitely have to say that sheis very community driven, like

(02:10):
in drive all the time, clearwindshields, just rear view
mirror set up exactly where itneeds to be, so that way you can
just peek into the rear view.
See all the people, see all thepeople that you're changing.
Too good.
I have Miss Steph.
Should we say should we say yourlast name?

(02:30):
Your your last name.
You know my last name?
Or is it Compton?
Straight out of.
Straight out of yo, I got StephC, Steph Compton in the house.
Straight out of.
Yo, tell them who you are, whereyou're from, give them a little
give them a little, a littlebio, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (02:46):
So a lot of folks confuse my Facebook name, Steph
Comp.
It's Steph Comp, Steph Comp.
But uh, how are they to know anybetter?
Are they to know any different?
So Facebook has trained my myfriends for the last decade.
But and I still get likeinvitations, you know, official
invitations that say Steph Comp.

SPEAKER_02 (03:07):
Oh shoot.
Okay, they're like it's Facebookofficial.

SPEAKER_05 (03:12):
Even though I remind people all the time it's Compton
because that's a cool name.

SPEAKER_02 (03:16):
Yeah, of course.
Of course.

SPEAKER_05 (03:18):
My cousin had a baby, baby had a onesie straight
out of Compton.

SPEAKER_02 (03:21):
Oh, we would love it.
Straight out of remember thewhole straight out of movement?

SPEAKER_05 (03:25):
There was a movement?
Yeah.
It was like everything isstraight out.

SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
Everything was straight out of.
Yeah.
You could be straight outanywhere.
Yeah, exactly.
You know?

unknown (03:32):
Straight out.

SPEAKER_02 (03:33):
Love that.
Love that.
Okay, so what uh give me alittle bit about your early life
and like childhood.
Intensity.
What was, yeah, what was yourchildhood like?

SPEAKER_05 (03:42):
So what was my childhood like?
It was pretty, it was prettydecent.
It was pretty like prettypicture perfect, I would say,
for the first decade.
You know, mom and dad, house,love.
Definitely knew right away I wasloved.
That's good.
Felt it.
Not everyone gets that, andthat's heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
And you're right.

SPEAKER_05 (04:05):
Anyhow, we're talking about me.

SPEAKER_01 (04:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (04:07):
I haven't had heartbreak yet.
No, that's not true.

SPEAKER_02 (04:10):
You'll know when it happens.
Hey, you'll know when ithappens.

SPEAKER_05 (04:13):
Oh, I do know.
I do know it very well.
But uh, yeah, I grew up in GrandPrairie, Texas.

SPEAKER_02 (04:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (04:19):
That's where Selena Gomez is from.

SPEAKER_02 (04:21):
Oh, shout out, Selena.
Oh, she's she's gonna be on thisshow at some point.

SPEAKER_05 (04:25):
Sweet.
Right on as you uh branch out.
Um, what else do you want toknow about growing up in Texas?

SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
Let's see here.
Give me one of your favoritememories as a child.

SPEAKER_05 (04:35):
Oh, my grandma, my nanny.
She's the best human there everwas.

SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
Um do me a favor.
Look up, look up right now atthat camera.
Say hi, nanny.
Hey Nan.
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (04:47):
Hi, nanny.

SPEAKER_02 (04:49):
That's it.

SPEAKER_05 (04:50):
That was sweet.
Thanks for that.
Uh-huh.
Um camping, uh, going to thelake house.
We had a family lake house.
All everybody went.
Uncles, aunts, cousins.

SPEAKER_02 (05:01):
Enjoyed time with each other.

SPEAKER_05 (05:02):
Yeah.
And that's another thing noteverybody gets.
Not everyone gets time withfamily.
And like, not just mom and dad,but like grandma, grandpa, aunt,
uncle, cousin, babies.
Not everyone grows up with theexperience of tending to a baby.

SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Isn't it?
Isn't it wild?
I mean, and then there's part ofyou too that doesn't want to
feel like, you know, you don'twant to feel shame in like your
family being there.

SPEAKER_05 (05:30):
Right.
And like nowadays now, now, andnot not as an adult, right?
Because an adult, you got this.
You don't need this.

SPEAKER_02 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Uh, but I think what what whatI'm thinking of is like, you
know, you really we're we'relucky to have like the family
that we have.
And I think even if you havelike one uncle or you have like,
you know, one or two people thatare really close to you that you
can have conversations with, youknow, um, I mean, we have all

(06:04):
those people, but do do we do wereally like communicate with
them and let them all know likethat that we really do care
about them and that they meansomething to us?
So I think that we should alltake some time and uh you know
reach out to your family.

SPEAKER_05 (06:21):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I reflect on like how they werethere for me after the first
decade.
First decade was great.
Second decade, that wasstressful.

SPEAKER_02 (06:32):
So why describe if you could describe it in Oh, I
got to experience like a singlefamily household then.

SPEAKER_05 (06:38):
I mean it's hard.
And lucky enough to have moremembers in my household, in my
family, not my household, but myfamily.
Okay.
Do you hold it down?
You know, help out mom when sheneeded help with me.

SPEAKER_02 (06:52):
How old were you after like after that first
decade?
Or sorry, where were you livingafter that first decade?

SPEAKER_05 (06:57):
Uh Grand Prairie and Arlington.
So they're like neighbor cities.
You know how we have the the DMVout here?
So in in the Grand Prairie,that's what's known as the DFW.
Oh, is it?
So the two cities in betweenDallas and Fort Worth.
Nice.

SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
Okay.
Okay, I'll remember that.

SPEAKER_05 (07:13):
Grand Prairie and Arlington are in the middle.

SPEAKER_02 (07:14):
If I drop that, it may it kind of lets them know
that I'm I'm kind of familiar.
With the DFW?
Yeah.
DFW.

unknown (07:20):
Gotcha.
Shout out.

SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
Shout out to the DFW.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, let's see here.
Why don't you tell me what was,I know we haven't really gotten
into this, but I really feellike the audience kind of needs
to know your role in theenvironment itself.
And I mean the fact that, right?
And and you know what?
Let me do a reintroduction.

(07:44):
Okay.
All right.
All right.
I got the zero waste queen inthe house right now, okay?
That okay, wait, wait, who elsewe got?
Wait, what's that?
Who's that?
Mother Nature in the house.
Okay.
Yeah, so I own it.
So, yeah, yeah.

(08:05):
So wait a second.
So, what was the first momentthat you realized that you
wanted to really make an impacton the environment and and know
that like that was somethingthat you really wanted to put a
lot, you wanted to put your lifeinto focusing on.

SPEAKER_05 (08:25):
Oh, I found that in my late 20s.

SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 (08:29):
Uh, like searching for happiness, searching for
something.
I was searching for something,and I wasn't finding it in
community at the time.
And I was living in Austin.
Okay.
At the time, late 20s, mid tolate 20s were in Austin.
You just said, Well, you justbeen uh and um that's when I

(08:55):
first learned about theenvironment as far as like the
impacts of fracking and what ithas on the the natural
environment.

SPEAKER_02 (09:04):
What is fracking, if you can tell me?

SPEAKER_05 (09:05):
Um fracking is nothing new.
It's been around, it's the waythat we have drilled for oil in
the past.
Um, but nowadays we're using itfor natural gas.
And so fracking for natural gas,man, it sounds so good talking
about Oh, you hate me.

SPEAKER_02 (09:24):
I'm using a plant.
I'm using a plant you know shenoticed it and she thought it in
her head and she didn't sayanything, but she was going to
after the second.
I will she should.
I will let you know how I feelabout that.
I lost my mug.
I lost it at we were just thisweekend.
Sorry I interrupted you too.
I didn't mean it.

SPEAKER_05 (09:40):
Everyone tries to do their best.
We're all doing our best.

SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
I need to work better on like I need to bring
like a single or a uh amulti-use like canister in here.

SPEAKER_05 (09:50):
Well, ultimately, though, what it comes down to,
AWOL, who's gonna do the dishes?
The revolution is indishwashing.

SPEAKER_02 (10:00):
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 (10:02):
If you're reusing the same cup everywhere all the
time, then it needs to be washedall the time.

SPEAKER_02 (10:08):
It does.
It does.
That's such a good point.
So we need uh we need moredishwashers.

SPEAKER_05 (10:12):
Yeah.
Well, or I mean your hands arethe dishwasher.

SPEAKER_02 (10:15):
Oh we need more hands.
Washing dishes.
Just think, you had an extrahand, you'd be washing, would
you be washing double thedishes?

SPEAKER_03 (10:26):
Probably.

SPEAKER_02 (10:29):
Because I'm so committed.
You would I could I can I couldsee you now.

SPEAKER_05 (10:34):
Like I could just see you like when we met, when
we met at Interfusion, I was youhelped me go get the dishes.

SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (10:41):
From the the 17th floor and bring them down to the
first floor where they needed togo for a different time and
place.

SPEAKER_02 (10:49):
She had, yeah, dude.
That was she had the sweet.
She was sweet.
That was the sweetest thing I'veever seen.
Yep.
No, but interfusion.
Actually, let's talk a littlebit about interfusion.
Okay.
Let's, I mean, cuz how cool isit?
It's pretty cool, isn't it?
I mean, explain it to somebody.
If you were to like explain itto like somebody who would never

(11:09):
To those that are listening, youwant to go to this.

SPEAKER_05 (11:11):
Yeah.
It's every Tell them why.
In January.
Okay.
It usually happens around MLKweekend.
Usually.
Um, why does it happen?
Okay, so Interfusion is workshopdense, expert dense.
Full of really cool people thatknow things that you don't.
And maybe you have interest insome of the things they learn

(11:34):
and want to know more about it.
It's definitely for improvingoneself and improving one's
connection to themselves and tocommunity.

SPEAKER_02 (11:45):
That was a great way of describing interfusion.

SPEAKER_05 (11:48):
Through dance.

SPEAKER_02 (11:49):
Through dance.

SPEAKER_05 (11:50):
Through multiple types of dances.
I uh I've picked up Zook sincethen.
Man, I love Zook.
Oh shoot.
I've heard of I've heard ofokay, okay.
Tell me, tell me more.
So there's a lead and there's afollow.
Okay.
And I've been learning recentlythrough the people that I've met
there.
I've been going to Tribe.
Tribe Baltimore is is here inBaltimore.

(12:11):
They've been here for a yearnow.
It's called the School forMovement Arts.
And that's where I go move mybody.
I move.
So important.

SPEAKER_02 (12:19):
Yeah.
I don't know.
Dude.

SPEAKER_05 (12:21):
I've done a lot of lying around before.

SPEAKER_02 (12:23):
I think we all have.
Yeah.
We all been lying, you know, youlie around.
And then you start to, you'relying there and you're looking
at the ceiling and you're like,well, you know, the world's just
not going to change itself.

SPEAKER_05 (12:36):
It's not.
It's not.
And you have to get out there.

SPEAKER_02 (12:40):
So my my And you have to never lose that.
You can't, you can't, becausethere will be times where like
they're like, hey, it ain'tchanging.
Or it's changing in ways thatyou didn't even think.
Right.
So now you're like, oh wait, wegotta pivot a little bit.
You know, like you're I feellike you're it's actually always
changing.
Might not be in the favor ofyou.

SPEAKER_05 (13:02):
If you're not changing, then you're debt.

SPEAKER_02 (13:04):
Yeah.
You know, think about that.

SPEAKER_05 (13:07):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 (13:08):
What was the thing we were just talking about
before that?

SPEAKER_05 (13:10):
Which thing?

SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
We were talking about interfusion.

SPEAKER_05 (13:12):
Uh-huh.
Before that.

SPEAKER_02 (13:14):
Um, okay, you know what?

SPEAKER_05 (13:15):
Now let's let's How I found the environment?

SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Yeah, how you yeah, yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really want to hear aboutthis.

SPEAKER_05 (13:22):
I was in Texas.
I was learning about naturalgas, fracking.

SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
Fracking.

SPEAKER_05 (13:27):
Fracking.
Don't frack your mother.
Don't frack your mother.
And they're fracking mothernature everywhere.
Violation of her consent leftand right.

SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
Oh, and right.
Damn, dude.

SPEAKER_05 (13:38):
So when I learned about that, I started working
for Texas Campaign for theEnvironment.
Shout out longest running uhgrassroots organization.
Getting shit done for MotherNature.
S D.
Which we are all of MotherNature.

SPEAKER_01 (13:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (13:57):
You're right.
We are nature.
I'm a mom.

SPEAKER_02 (14:04):
Yes, Andrew.
Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 (14:06):
You're a mom.

SPEAKER_02 (14:07):
You know?
All right.
I'll take that.
I got one on the belt.
We got another match on thebelt, baby.
Thank you.
Fist pump to that.
Okay.
Fracking.

SPEAKER_05 (14:18):
You were texting campaign for the environment.
Taught me how to use my voice.
I started uh knocking on doors.
Hello.
Hello.
Let's talk about theenvironment.
I would open the door for youfor sure.
Well, I had really good successat it.

SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
Yeah, you guys you just had a nice smile on your
face and you were just I wasgetting you were just like you
were probably like wavingyourself off or you just it was
hot.

SPEAKER_05 (14:41):
It was hot.
Texas.

SPEAKER_02 (14:43):
Oh in Tex oh my gosh, knocking on doors in
Texas.
That that's like a whole notherlevel.

SPEAKER_05 (14:48):
Right.
Right.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (14:50):
Dedication.

SPEAKER_05 (14:51):
Oh yeah.
Right.
Which is more of a reason whyyou should open the door.

SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
Like this, really.
And the rain.
And just the no's.
All the no's that you hear.

SPEAKER_05 (15:00):
Oh.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
Yeah, exactly.
But then they make the yeses,you know, that much better.

SPEAKER_05 (15:07):
Yes.
I could write a book about itprobably.
I should.
You should.

SPEAKER_02 (15:11):
Hey, text uh note to S-I-R-I, just so she doesn't
come on.
Write this book.

SPEAKER_05 (15:20):
Yeah, write this book.
About finding your voice.

SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
Okay, so when you were door to door, tell me, give
me a little bit about thatexperience and like what maybe
what did you learn through it?

SPEAKER_05 (15:32):
Um I learned how to be succinct.
I learned how to communicatequickly.
Because you gotta get throughwhat's the thing that this
person's gonna give this person,you know.

SPEAKER_02 (15:44):
Yeah, with all this other clutter that's they're
gonna be able to do it.
Yeah, what's relevant?

SPEAKER_05 (15:47):
Like, what is the thing that makes them want to
learn hear more?

SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
And that's different for everybody.

SPEAKER_05 (15:53):
So you gotta you gotta adjust quickly, but using
the same type message over andover again.
Uh they train you.
I was trained on like how tolike keep it moving and how to
not uh convince anyone, andyou're there to find the people
that already agree becausethey're out there.

SPEAKER_02 (16:11):
Oh, you're not trying to convince anyone,
you're you're already trying tofind the people who've already
been convinced.

SPEAKER_05 (16:19):
They already agree that the environment is a
priority, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (16:23):
But what lengths will they go?

SPEAKER_05 (16:26):
Right.
So I was getting people to writechecks, give me their credit
card.

SPEAKER_02 (16:30):
Okay, because they because they supported the
member.
That that's gonna go somewhere,you know.
Seriously.

SPEAKER_05 (16:38):
I round my receipt.

SPEAKER_02 (16:41):
Yeah, but even like how can you prove to those
people that like the money isgoing to have newsletter.

SPEAKER_05 (16:47):
We got follow-up.

SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
Follow, of course.

SPEAKER_05 (16:49):
Yeah.
Of course.
We got stuff done.

SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
Okay.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (16:52):
We we influenced corporate policy.

SPEAKER_02 (16:55):
And what was some of the money, what would some of
the money go to?
Well, like what were some of thethings that were, do you know
what some of the things wereit's for lobbying?

SPEAKER_05 (17:04):
Going and talking to lawmakers directly and saying,
hey, we've got 20,000 peoplethat have given me a check
because they believe in this.

SPEAKER_02 (17:13):
So would it cost money to actually meet with the
lobbyist?

SPEAKER_05 (17:16):
So they would give us, no, but someone's gotta do
it.
Someone's gotta wake up and puton their suit.

SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
So you're paying like a lawyer or like a
grassroots politics.
Grassroots lobbying, someonethat's of the people, someone
that you can trust.
Gotcha.
That has that has say in Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (17:32):
Well, and they make the time.
Anyone can go to the Capitol andtalk to your lawmaker.

SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (17:37):
But you gotta know how to talk to them.

SPEAKER_02 (17:39):
Yeah, you gotta know how to talk.

SPEAKER_05 (17:40):
And you gotta know how to take how to navigate
through their nose.
Their o's.

SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
Yeah, gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 (17:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (17:48):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (17:48):
And that and anyone can do that, but we all got
jobs.

SPEAKER_00 (17:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (17:53):
We all have to and that's why we don't participate
in democracy.
We're so distracted taking careof ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 (17:59):
Yeah, right.
That we don't have to.

SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Yeah, that's really important.
Taking care of yourself firstbefore you can even you have to
fit you know, you have tounderstand yourself before you
can even get to learn tounderstand what's going on
around you.
You know?
Um, what do you think thechallenge in in understanding
yourself is?
Like you would think, like, oh,it's me.

(18:24):
I know me, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 (18:26):
Well, one of these days when I was knocking on
doors, okay, this little boy inTexas opens the door.
I'm like, I'm here to talk aboutit.
Excuse me, who are you?
I'm here to talk about theenvironment.
And he's like, What's that?

SPEAKER_02 (18:42):
What is you're bringing you using big words
here, honey?

SPEAKER_05 (18:46):
I was like, you know, the air you breathe.

SPEAKER_02 (18:49):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (18:50):
The water you swim in, you fish in.

SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 (18:54):
And then he's like, who cares?

SPEAKER_02 (18:58):
Is that what he did?

SPEAKER_05 (18:59):
He didn't know any better.

SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
But also these day.

SPEAKER_05 (19:03):
What if, you know, that's the sentiment of mom and
dad, right?
Who cares?

SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
Oh, because they they got it.
They got it.

SPEAKER_05 (19:10):
Yeah, who cares?
I mean, no, they weren'tinterested in talking to me.

SPEAKER_02 (19:13):
I mean, whatever.
That's fine.
Yeah.
They're probably busy.
Right.
Everybody's everybody's busy.

SPEAKER_05 (19:19):
But like, people people don't know we're nature.
You know, people want to go livein space.

SPEAKER_02 (19:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (19:28):
We're not made to live there.
We're one of nature.
One of this one unique.

SPEAKER_02 (19:35):
I feel like like living in space that would
really just be like temporarilyuntil like they can actually
get, you know, to somewhere thatthat is, you know, I guess
inhabitable.
But I feel like it's inhabitableright now.
Yeah, I feel like it's that's athat's a long way down the the

(19:55):
future, you know?

unknown (19:56):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (19:57):
How long is that?
I feel like our lifetime we'llsee it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:02):
We'll see somebody living on a different planet.

SPEAKER_05 (20:05):
Sorry, I should let you finish talking.

SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
Yeah, not in space, yeah, on a different planet.
No.
No.
Yeah.
Like on like lit, you know,actually set up in like a little
little fort on a differentplanet.
Like, I mean, on Mars.
I mean, when are they gonna putpeople on Mars?

SPEAKER_05 (20:24):
I'm not interested.

SPEAKER_02 (20:25):
Yeah.
Yeah, we're not going.
I'm cool with I'm cool withhere, right?
Yeah, this is I'll I'll takethis.
I'll stay here and this is whereall the beauty is.
Good good point.

SPEAKER_05 (20:35):
They got nothing out there.

SPEAKER_02 (20:37):
Beauty, what is what does beauty mean to you?
I've been I've been that's beenon my mind.

SPEAKER_05 (20:43):
Man, Mother Nature just gives it to us all the
time.
And I feel bad for folks thathave never traveled outside of
their city and gone to a forest.
We got beauty here in ourbackyard.
Yeah.
Everywhere.
I appreciate the man.
I had this moment earlier thisspring when everything was just
coming out in bloom.

(21:04):
Right now, you know what'sblooming?
The irises.
They're white, they're yellow,they're purple.

SPEAKER_02 (21:10):
Right?
I know it's so cool to know likethese different times when these
things take the time to smellthe roses.

SPEAKER_05 (21:15):
That's beauty.

SPEAKER_02 (21:16):
Hey, wait a second.
You know what?
Let's just stop real quick.

SPEAKER_05 (21:21):
Don't have roses in face.

SPEAKER_02 (21:23):
Pretend this is a rose.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That is so rosy.
If I were to describe thissmell, it would just be like a
whole dozen.

SPEAKER_05 (21:43):
We just took three deep breaths together, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Get on our level.
I hope you are on our levelright now, okay?
Because that's what this isabout.

SPEAKER_05 (21:53):
That's called co-regulating.

SPEAKER_02 (21:56):
Is it?
What taking a breath together?

SPEAKER_05 (21:58):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (21:59):
Co-regulators.
I can see it now.

SPEAKER_05 (22:03):
Co-regulators.
Uh mound up.

SPEAKER_02 (22:08):
We got like a cartoon idea.

SPEAKER_05 (22:10):
So many.

SPEAKER_02 (22:11):
Yeah, just we need we need to take honestly.
I take good notes in my phone,but it's more like organizing
the notes.
Like, how can I use them?
How can I revisit them at theperfect time to where you know
what I want to do lines up withthis idea.

(22:33):
And like, I think it's importantfor us to really think about
like when we're, you know, withlike social media and whatnot,
and we want to try and like makea message, you know.
I think it's important thatyou're like you're very
intentional with what you'resaying, you know, and that like
it comes from a very organicplace, you know, and I feel like

(22:57):
we can really spread a lot of ofgoodness and like you know, the
things that need to be knownthroughout uh you know life in
order to help us like live likethe longest life.

unknown (23:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (23:13):
And remember, I was telling you about the blue
zones.

SPEAKER_05 (23:16):
I've watched that since then.

SPEAKER_02 (23:17):
Did you watch?

SPEAKER_05 (23:18):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (23:18):
How cool is that?

SPEAKER_05 (23:20):
Yeah.
I gotta say, I haven't alwaysbeen a keen on the idea of
living to 100.

SPEAKER_01 (23:26):
Oh.

SPEAKER_05 (23:26):
Because I'm just like, this place sucks.
My don't cry.
I cry you're laughing.

SPEAKER_01 (23:38):
I'm laughing.
I'm crying, laughing.

SPEAKER_05 (23:42):
I mean, you know what I mean?
Like, and here I am, MotherNature saying, I understand what
you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (23:48):
I just talked about how beautiful this place is, but
like society, culturally,societally, societally.
Societally.
In this day and age, this placeis troublesome.
And like, even so, I've got myfriends.
I'm auntie to so many.
And I've got my friends,eight-year-old, nine-year-old,

(24:10):
who already says things like,How do I get out of here?
I don't like this universe.
What is I want the other one?

SPEAKER_02 (24:17):
You want a different thing.

SPEAKER_05 (24:18):
I'm like girl, you're too young for thinking
like that.

SPEAKER_02 (24:22):
I know.
Gosh.
So do you think that you hadlike thoughts like that, maybe
even just like sporadic when youwere really young?
That maybe you don't remember.
Not sorry, not remember, butlike didn't put an emphasis on.
I mean, I feel like we all dealwith each generation deals with
their own type of suffering anduh let's see here, uh um

(24:49):
distraction that like may seemlike it's helping life, but like
it it really does kind of likehinder it uh in a way, you know.
Um, but it it is intentionallyused to like do good, but then
it ended up being something thatcan be used differently.

SPEAKER_03 (25:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (25:08):
You know, so I think it's important uh to understand
though that yeah, that everygeneration has that.
So, you know, with them, theythink of it the way that they're
asking that question too is theydon't they're just repeating
something that they heard.
I think at at that age, theythey they don't understand the
skin with her mother every nowand then.

SPEAKER_05 (25:29):
I'm like, does she still think that way?
And she's like, Yeah, girl,that's her soul.

SPEAKER_02 (25:33):
That's right.
Well, you know what?
You never know.
What if, like, you know, thatthat drive behind them kind of
like makes them like want to dosomething about it.

SPEAKER_05 (25:44):
Yeah, I hope so.
I'm here to support that asauntie.

SPEAKER_02 (25:48):
In order to even understand it, or even to make
it better, you have tounderstand it's like it the the
craziness that it is in order tolike know how to like untie it.

SPEAKER_05 (25:59):
Right.
Oh and it can be done.
I believe.
I believe if she believes, Ibelieve.
Ugh, this place sucks, but I Ineed like a lot of help.
We just need help.

SPEAKER_02 (26:12):
You're right.
We do need help.
So what can what can people do?

SPEAKER_05 (26:18):
So like there's this woman that I met at Interfusion,
Nikki Baptiste.

SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
Nikki Batiste shout.

SPEAKER_05 (26:26):
She's got a program, she calls it um Inner Peace for
World Peace.

SPEAKER_02 (26:33):
I like it.

SPEAKER_05 (26:34):
I love it.
Dig it because when I thinkabout the world and what the
world needs, healing of itspeople.

SPEAKER_02 (26:46):
Healing.

SPEAKER_05 (26:47):
And uh no one else can do that for us but us.
So inner peace for rollpiece,like you have to find that inner
peace for you first before weall get it.

SPEAKER_02 (27:04):
Yeah.
I know, right?
That's the crazy thing too.
Like we're all just guessing.
You know, it's not n not nothingreally concrete.

SPEAKER_04 (27:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (27:14):
So I think we should be grateful for the fact though
that it's like it's like that.
It's squishy.
You know?
Because y there's gotta be moresquishy.
I mean, dude, okay, you ready?
We're not there's eight billionpeople on the planet.

(27:38):
We're not having a problemliving.
Like, n now.
Okay, now I feel like that's oneof the reasons why some people
kind of lose, you know, the thedrive behind it, because they
think of how many differentpeople there are on earth, and

(28:01):
if they don't do it, thensomebody else is going to do it.

SPEAKER_05 (28:07):
But that's when you realize that you are somebody
else.

SPEAKER_03 (28:11):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 (28:13):
I am somebody that can do something.

SPEAKER_02 (28:19):
Yeah, it makes you think of like everybody that
there is out there, and like Iguess if you know how to take
care of yourself and you knowhow to take care of uh it'll
help you learn how to take careof other people.

SPEAKER_05 (28:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (28:35):
You know?

SPEAKER_05 (28:36):
Because if you know what you need in a certain
moment, then you know how toanticipate someone else's needs
when they show up in need ofsomething.

SPEAKER_03 (28:44):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 (28:46):
Um let's segue a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had some cool questions foryou here.
Um what was the most what is themis What is I got this, I got
this.
I believe you.
What is the most misunderstoodthing about mother nature

(29:11):
aspect?

SPEAKER_05 (29:13):
I hear what I hear what you're saying.
What is the most misunderstoodthing about human nature?

SPEAKER_02 (29:18):
Yeah.
Human nature.

SPEAKER_05 (29:19):
Human nature is that we are nature.
So I just recently startedlistening to a book called uh
Polysecure.
You heard of it?
I'm not sure who's it's aboutlike trauma and attachment and
consensual consensual somethingthat's in there.

SPEAKER_00 (29:42):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:42):
It's about ethical nominatomy, like Ooh, that's
even better.
There you go.
What I love about this book sofar, what I love about this book
so far is uh this therapist alsoaddresses how the cognitive
dissonance of humans in nature.

(30:06):
Right.
Because we're talking aboutrelationship to self,
relationship to others, whatmakes us secure, what makes us
safe in our lives, the feelingsof feeling safe and secure.
And the way that we grow up, ourfamilies, the relationships that
we have, the trauma that weexperience, independent of
family.

SPEAKER_02 (30:25):
Makes us safe and secure secure.

SPEAKER_05 (30:27):
Yeah.
And um, but one of the thingsabout sense of belonging is
there are some people I wouldidentify with this that they
don't feel safe and secure in aplace where the environment is
just not being taken care of.

SPEAKER_03 (30:43):
Oh man, it's just not.
It's just not.

SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
Yeah, it it brings that that that that um that
feeling of just like like notnot being able to like thrive or
not and also like not feelinglike you can do anything about
it.

SPEAKER_05 (30:57):
I mean, what do you what how do you feel about the
climate like the state of theworld and man?

SPEAKER_02 (31:04):
That's such a deep question because it's like you
you hear these things.
They're like they're like birdsthat are chirping.

SPEAKER_05 (31:16):
I can hear them right now.

SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
Exactly.
And it's like which ones do Iwant to listen to, and then
which ones do I need to listento?
Okay, because there's alwayslike that, there's always like
that left and right side, youknow, that's kind of like things

(31:41):
are, you know, things are great,things are awesome, like no
matter what you do, like it'sgonna be like that.
Then there's this side whereit's like, you know, kind of
kind of feeds you like the whatifs.
You know, like what if thishappens, and you know, this
might happen, or like what if,you know, and I do think that we

(32:04):
have with the amount oftechnology that we have, we we
shouldn't be having suchconfusion, you know, between
we're confused because we're notconnected.
Yeah, exactly.
We're not connected to and andand this thing's supposed to

(32:26):
isn't this thing supposed toconnect us?
Isn't that what this is for?

SPEAKER_05 (32:29):
Well, it's got a good lens, it might be able to
help you identify some things.
Do you ever go what?
Do you ever go hiking?

SPEAKER_02 (32:35):
I love hiking.

SPEAKER_05 (32:36):
Do you uh do mushroom hunting?

SPEAKER_02 (32:39):
You know what?
I've went mushroom hunting onceor twice in my day.

SPEAKER_05 (32:42):
Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 (32:43):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 (32:43):
What well, I mean, like, what have you been able to
find?

SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
Um, just like lion's mane.
Ooh, like yeah, and things likethat.
Uh turkey tail.

SPEAKER_05 (32:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (32:52):
Definitely.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (32:54):
Um, you can't really eat, but you can like make stuff
with it.

SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Good point.

SPEAKER_05 (32:58):
Um, and that's what they teach you they, as in if
you go to like a mushroom cityart festival or something.

SPEAKER_02 (33:05):
Oh, yes.
Speak about oh yeah, oh dude,good job.
Cheers, cheers.
Yo, shouts out to Mushroom CityArt Festival.
I just want to say that Stephhas said nothing but amazing
things about this place.
And I'm excited for everyoneelse to see it.
Okay, infomercial stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (33:22):
Every year in October, but uh yeah.
And it's free.

SPEAKER_02 (33:26):
Is it?

SPEAKER_05 (33:27):
Yeah, it's free.

SPEAKER_02 (33:28):
F R double easy.

SPEAKER_05 (33:30):
Come on, mushrooms and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (33:32):
Yeah, when is it again?
I don't know if there's a dateyet.
But you said you said something.
It's always in October.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (33:39):
It's always like first weekend of October.

SPEAKER_02 (33:41):
Okay, gotcha.
Um, that's a good thought.
Um, okay, save it in mycalendar.

SPEAKER_05 (33:46):
Great.

SPEAKER_02 (33:46):
Yeah, okay.
Um, let's see here.
What is let's let me let me takeyou out in the left field here.
Do it.
Okay, just right now.
We're aiming in this direction.
All right.
What's the most rewardingexperience?
Okay, this one right here.
I'm looking.
Yeah.
What's the most rewardingexperience that you've ever

(34:11):
experienced?

SPEAKER_03 (34:14):
Ever.

SPEAKER_02 (34:15):
Ever.
Forever.

SPEAKER_03 (34:20):
That's a Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (34:21):
Come on.

SPEAKER_03 (34:22):
I gotta think of something now.
Okay, I got it.

SPEAKER_05 (34:25):
Um let's talk about okay, let's talk about what I've
learned from digging in thetrash.
Mmm.
Okay.
And uh composting.

unknown (34:36):
Comp.

SPEAKER_05 (34:38):
Step composting and there's so many ways we can play
with that.

SPEAKER_02 (34:44):
Right?
Post it.
She's posting up on the corner.

SPEAKER_05 (34:48):
Um post it.

SPEAKER_01 (34:49):
But um with a bag.

SPEAKER_05 (34:54):
How much we don't know about um about it?
What do you know aboutcomposting?

SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
Uh real quick, real quick, like we get back to it.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so I know that it'sbasically kind of like recycling
for like living matter.

SPEAKER_05 (35:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
We call it sometimes we call itre-earthing.
Taking the things that came fromthe earth and putting them back
into the earth.
You know, that is one of thesingle um single actions an
individual could take to combatclimate change.

SPEAKER_02 (35:27):
One action.
We just just one.

SPEAKER_05 (35:29):
One.
Just one thing.
Tell tell everyone?
Just one thing.
You could try composting.
I can tell you here in BaltimoreCity, if you go to the farmers'
markets, yeah.
There's the year-round market onSaturdays at Waverly.
Every Saturday you can you candrop it off.

SPEAKER_02 (35:46):
Oh, can you?

SPEAKER_05 (35:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (35:48):
And what happens with it?

SPEAKER_05 (35:50):
Uh I believe.
I believe so you can only dumpfood waste there.
Because there's lots of types ofcompost.

SPEAKER_00 (35:59):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (36:00):
But just the just the food scraps.
Because I believe it's going toa farm.
I believe they're feedinganimals with it.

SPEAKER_00 (36:05):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (36:06):
So you wouldn't want to put um paper.
Paper is totally compostable.

SPEAKER_02 (36:11):
Gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 (36:12):
But you're not going to put it in food compost to
animals.
That's not part of their diet.

SPEAKER_01 (36:18):
Yeah.
Good point.

SPEAKER_05 (36:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (36:20):
Yeah, because it depends on where it's going.

SPEAKER_05 (36:22):
That kid combat, you know, greenhouse gases.
What's a greenhouse gas?
Carbon.
What is it?
Other things.
I'm not a scientist, but Youlook like one.
We're learning about it all thetime.
Um, and food waste is one of thebiggest things that's
contributing to what is agreenhouse gas, things that are

(36:42):
um making it hot.

SPEAKER_02 (36:45):
What's another way?
What's another one thing thatpeople can do?

SPEAKER_05 (36:48):
Oh, let's talk about refuse.
I've refused a couple of thingssince I've been here.
Oh.
Because it's my habit.

SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (36:56):
So I would like to encourage everyone to refuse
single use anything.

SPEAKER_02 (37:02):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (37:03):
Single use is the downfall.

SPEAKER_02 (37:05):
I'll reuse this cup a few times.

SPEAKER_05 (37:07):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 (37:07):
I swear.

SPEAKER_05 (37:08):
I mean, you could.

SPEAKER_02 (37:09):
I will.

SPEAKER_05 (37:10):
But every time you use it, you're just exposing
yourself to the toxins that arein it.

SPEAKER_02 (37:15):
Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 (37:16):
And then when we throw it away, whether you
choose to recycle it or not,right?
You could put it in therecycling bin.
Will it make it there or not?
Who knows?
Because what if it's Oh, thenI'll do that?

SPEAKER_02 (37:29):
Yeah, I'll just put it in a recycling bin.

SPEAKER_05 (37:30):
Well, you could do you could do that.

SPEAKER_02 (37:33):
And I'm not saying that's not how I I don't want
to, I don't want to have tothrow anything in the in the
bin.
I wanna be using use it.
You want to use it.

SPEAKER_05 (37:40):
Yeah, so let's get you some reusables up in here.

SPEAKER_02 (37:43):
Yeah, good thing.
Good thought.
I have plenty of.

SPEAKER_05 (37:46):
You got a five-gallon jug of water?

SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
Yeah, that's what we need to do.
Yeah.
That's what we need to do.

SPEAKER_05 (37:50):
Get a five-gallon, get some cups.
You know, you don't have to washthe dishes every day.

SPEAKER_02 (37:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (37:56):
You gotta have enough cups to get by in a day.

SPEAKER_02 (37:58):
A day.

SPEAKER_05 (37:59):
For your guests.

SPEAKER_02 (38:00):
Yeah.
For you.
Yeah, it's easy too.

SPEAKER_05 (38:02):
You could pay someone to wash your dishes.

SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
No, I don't need to.
No, dude.
Ah, you can do it.
That's too easy.

SPEAKER_05 (38:08):
High five.

SPEAKER_02 (38:09):
Get out of here, dude.
Bro.
Come on.
Little Dawn.

SPEAKER_05 (38:12):
Loves Mother Nature.

SPEAKER_02 (38:13):
Little Dawn.
Oh, dude.
Let me tell you.
People will attest.
I pick up trash.
Yeah.
I I pick up trash.
And as I walk from work, and youknow what?
There's there's a part of me forthe longest time was like, don't
pick this up.
Somebody's trying, somebody'swatching you.
Somebody's watching you.
And then and then like itbecame.

SPEAKER_05 (38:29):
If you think someone's watching you, okay,
back to biggest experience orsomething.

SPEAKER_01 (38:34):
Most rewarding.

SPEAKER_05 (38:34):
Most rewarding experience.
I was traveling.
I was in South America.
I was on the beach in um, let'ssee, Peru, Ecuador.
I was in Ecuador.
On the beach in Ecuador, notenjoying my time at all.
You know why?
Why?
With every wave.
I was getting a new plastic bagaround my ankle.

SPEAKER_02 (38:53):
Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_05 (38:54):
Disgusting.
Could not enjoy my time.

SPEAKER_02 (38:57):
Really?
It was that bad?

SPEAKER_05 (39:00):
Have you ever been swimming in the ocean with
plastic all around you?

SPEAKER_02 (39:02):
It's I I have, but like not that like it was.
I mean, I've been to a f a fewplaces.
I I can't remember one that likestands.

SPEAKER_05 (39:11):
So anyhow, I start spearing this, these plastic
fish with a stick, getting thisplastic.
I'm just getting it.
And all of these children arewatching me, and now they're
like, they're doing it with me.

SPEAKER_02 (39:26):
They're doing see?
Good point.

SPEAKER_05 (39:28):
It was that okay, that's the best thing ever.
I had to think about it.
I wasn't ready to answer it, butwe started talking about stuff
and we landed.
That's it.

SPEAKER_02 (39:36):
The paper bag marauder.
Plastic made a plastic bagmarauder.

SPEAKER_05 (39:40):
And getting those kids to do it with me.

SPEAKER_02 (39:42):
I know, right?

SPEAKER_05 (39:43):
15 minutes of doing that.
We got so what's great aboutpicking up trash, I've learned
I've done it so many times.

SPEAKER_02 (39:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (39:49):
Picking up trash.
Trash is oftentimes you pick upmore trash that can hold the
trash you're picking up.

SPEAKER_02 (39:54):
Oh, good point.

SPEAKER_05 (39:55):
Like a plastic bag, an ice bag.
Then you can start putting allthe other stuff in there.
So we just had bags of bags ofbags of bags.

SPEAKER_02 (40:01):
Bags of bags.
Bag lady.
Nice.
Yeah.
Love that.

SPEAKER_05 (40:06):
I am a bag lady in my bag.

SPEAKER_02 (40:08):
In yeah, you've been in your bag too.
Yeah.
Nice.
Nice.
Uh okay, let's see here.
What is what do you think likethe number one environmental
issue that we should should bethinking about other than maybe

(40:28):
other than climate change, Iguess you could say?

SPEAKER_05 (40:31):
So we'll keep talking about single use.

SPEAKER_02 (40:34):
Yeah, let's stick around.

SPEAKER_05 (40:35):
Because here's what I know.
I know like that plastic cup yougot right there.

SPEAKER_02 (40:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (40:41):
What is plastic made out of?

SPEAKER_02 (40:43):
Yeah, what is dude?
Okay, take a second and reachunder your chair and vote on the
survey that what is a plastic?
Okay.
We'll we'll we'll we'll s we'lldisplay the the results next
episode.

SPEAKER_05 (41:01):
Uh oil! Mother effin' oil.
So uh yeah, and it's oil,really?

unknown (41:09):
Oil.

SPEAKER_02 (41:10):
So what I can be so many things.

SPEAKER_05 (41:12):
Here's what I know.
Here's what I know from mycircles that I'm that I circle
in.

SPEAKER_02 (41:16):
Your circle's circle.

SPEAKER_05 (41:18):
Um, where we talk about reuse and those systems
and how we want them to be thenew norm.
So um sorry.
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Because that was holydistracting.
Who didn't shut that door?

(41:46):
Don't they know we're trying tohave a conversation?
Oh, all good.
That was like me walking inhere.

SPEAKER_00 (41:57):
Good job.

SPEAKER_05 (41:58):
Take your water.

SPEAKER_00 (41:59):
Okay, so reuse.

SPEAKER_05 (42:01):
More reuse needs to be the norm.

SPEAKER_02 (42:03):
So, um wait a second.
Say that again.

SPEAKER_05 (42:06):
Reuse.

SPEAKER_02 (42:07):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (42:09):
Refuse a single use.
How do we get okay?
So what I know is that plasticmakes up all of our sing a lot
of our single-use containers offood and beverage.
We eat how many times a day?

SPEAKER_02 (42:23):
I mean, it depends on who you are.
I got some friends that eat likesix times a day.

SPEAKER_05 (42:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (42:28):
Right.
But I eat maybe like three, two.

SPEAKER_05 (42:30):
And how many of those meals, you know, are on
the go?
Or how many of those meals didyou make?
It doesn't matter.
Whether you cooked it yourself,or you had to go to the store
and get it, or you went to arestaurant and got it.
There's packaging all along theway.

SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
Right?

SPEAKER_05 (42:45):
So we need the packaging to eat.
Yeah.
To get food to us.
In the way that we live ourlives right now.

SPEAKER_02 (42:54):
Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_05 (42:55):
But like once upon a time, you get your milk from a
milkman, drop it off, you'redone with it, you finish that
bottle.
They're not bringing you a cow,they're bringing you the milk.

SPEAKER_02 (43:08):
That's a good point, right?

SPEAKER_05 (43:09):
That they they they would not everyone can afford to
have a cow in their backyard.

SPEAKER_02 (43:12):
Yeah.
But they can't afford to uh payfor like a delivery.
Yeah.
And also too, I think you thepoint you were talking about was
like recycling with the with themilk.

SPEAKER_05 (43:23):
Recycling.

SPEAKER_02 (43:24):
I'm yeah, I mean reusing the milk uh jugs.

SPEAKER_05 (43:28):
Yeah, there you go.
Recycling is just trash.

SPEAKER_02 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:31):
Now, not to put recycling down.
Uh-huh.
I was calling it trash.

SPEAKER_02 (43:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:38):
But it really is.
Well, we know that for a fact,nine percent of plastics are
getting recycled.

SPEAKER_02 (43:43):
Nine percent?

SPEAKER_05 (43:45):
That's it.

SPEAKER_02 (43:46):
Of how many percent?

SPEAKER_05 (43:48):
Plastic uh out of a hundred?
Let's just talk about like abillion dot bottles a year.

SPEAKER_01 (43:54):
Yeah, a billion.

SPEAKER_05 (43:55):
Is that what it is?
That's an underestimate.

SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
A billion bottles.

SPEAKER_05 (44:00):
But like, how do we get into like reuse like the the
milkman model?
Like, we use it, it goes back,it gets clean, it gets
sanitized, it gets refilled.
So, and these these circles thatI'm in, there's all of these
cool players that are bringingup these really cool services
for our life to switch back toreduce our carbon footprint.

(44:27):
Because all of these single-useitems take oil.
And oil is what's killing us.

SPEAKER_02 (44:33):
Oh, and that's what's actually being burned.
Oh, shoot.
So it's a double, it's a doublewhammy.

SPEAKER_05 (44:40):
Oh, yeah.
Oh also, like recyclableproducts, like all those
chemicals that go into recyclingand making it a recycled
plastic, are like super toxic.
There's more chemical harmfulchemicals involved in the
recycling process than just fromthe first part of making
plastic.
So toxic no matter what, evenmore toxic when it's recycled.

(45:02):
Even more toxic.
So I cringe when I see likeclothes made out of recycled
plastic.

SPEAKER_00 (45:06):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (45:08):
We talk about a water bottle that's made out of
recycled plastic.
It's just do we we talk abouthow much plastic is in the body
right now?
Did you know?

SPEAKER_02 (45:18):
Four credit cards.

SPEAKER_05 (45:20):
Is that it?

SPEAKER_02 (45:21):
Uh, I don't think it's four credit cards.
I think it's um like throughoutyour life.

SPEAKER_05 (45:26):
Well, right now I was talking about well, it
depends on what bot what part ofthe body we're talking about.
The lungs, the testes, thebrain.

unknown (45:34):
Testies.

SPEAKER_05 (45:36):
Yes.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (45:38):
Yeah, not good.

SPEAKER_05 (45:39):
We're plastic people.

SPEAKER_02 (45:40):
I know, right?
And then some of the fish thatare in the water now have like
they have that in there?

SPEAKER_04 (45:45):
They're plastic fish.

SPEAKER_02 (45:47):
So let me ask you, I mean, uh, I know you went over a
few different ways to um, isthere anything else refuse?

SPEAKER_04 (45:56):
Refuse.
Refuse single use.

SPEAKER_02 (45:58):
Refuse.

SPEAKER_04 (45:59):
We can.

SPEAKER_02 (46:00):
So what if somebody's going to a restaurant
okay, and they're taking foodout, they're getting food from
the restaurant.

SPEAKER_05 (46:06):
Well, you gotta bring your own container.

SPEAKER_02 (46:08):
You gotta you you you think they'll listen to you?
I mean, I feel I feel like it'shard enough just to get like
them to ring me up.

SPEAKER_05 (46:17):
I know.

SPEAKER_02 (46:19):
As opposed to like give them a container to like
put my food in.

SPEAKER_05 (46:23):
These cool services that start showing up.

SPEAKER_02 (46:25):
Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (46:26):
There's like these cool service providers, like
Curry Zero.

SPEAKER_00 (46:30):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (46:31):
And then there's some other one.
There's one in DC called to gogreen.

SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_05 (46:35):
Yeah, you can get it in reusable takeout containers.

SPEAKER_00 (46:38):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (46:38):
And then when you're done, they track you.
You have like a couple weeks toreturn the container before they
charge you for it.
And then they wash it and giveit back to the restaurant.

SPEAKER_02 (46:49):
Yeah, that's a good thought.
Um, I could see some, I couldsee that being a good business
model uh in the future.

SPEAKER_03 (46:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (46:56):
You know, um taking an opportunity and kind of
really uh, you know, makingmaking something of it.

SPEAKER_05 (47:03):
So yeah, you'll learn if you start to refuse
single-use items, you'll noticethe places where it's really
hard to do that.

SPEAKER_02 (47:10):
And wait, I I just got a I just got a page for my
Neuralink here.
And um it said that well, 150species die a day.
All right.
So listen, we're not trying tobe all doom and gloom here.
All right, we're trying to teachyou, trying to sometimes you

(47:31):
gotta teach tough love.

SPEAKER_04 (47:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (47:34):
And that's the best way to uh that's the best way to
do it.
150 species die a day.
We're killing species off beforewe even get to figure out what
they are.

SPEAKER_05 (47:47):
Oh, yeah.
I know you I know you wanted tosay that, but like some of them
mushrooms out there.
I know, guys could be curingcancer, could be curing our
lives.

SPEAKER_02 (47:56):
Right?
Shout out to Paul.
Paul's damn shout out to Paul'sDamage with the seven out there.
Yeah, throw up your sevens.
Seven, baby.
So, no, guys like him and likemovies like Miracul or Ma
Miraculous Mushrooms, I thinkthat's what it's called.
Something like that.
Magnificent mushrooms, I think.

(48:17):
Um I I don't know the exactname, but it's all about his his
aunt or his mom.
His mom.
His mom.
He cured his mom.
He cured his mom of cancer justthrough like just regular yeah,
just regular uh yeah, yeah, justregular mushrooms that that you
can find all over the place.

SPEAKER_05 (48:34):
But we're destroying the planet faster than we can
identify some of these species.
And they're gone forever.

SPEAKER_02 (48:42):
Right?
Gone before we can and what ifwe found out that that thing
like could do something reallygood for us.

SPEAKER_05 (48:47):
I mean, it's the reason we speak to each other.

SPEAKER_02 (48:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (48:50):
That's what we learned of that magic mushroom
movie.

SPEAKER_02 (48:53):
Mm.
Communication.

SPEAKER_05 (48:55):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 (48:56):
Yeah, you see, you did you have I ever told you
about the stoned ape theory?

SPEAKER_05 (49:01):
The what?

SPEAKER_02 (49:02):
The stoned ape theory.

SPEAKER_05 (49:03):
Stoned ape theory.

SPEAKER_02 (49:06):
So it's basically like back in the day, and this
was um written by um what is hisdarn name?
Uh he's a my he's a mycologist,like the biggest one of the
bigger mycologists from back inthe day.

SPEAKER_04 (49:20):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (49:20):
Not pulsamits.
Not pulse damage, but um keepgoing.
Okay, okay, okay.
So what he did was he wrote abook and it's about how there
were animals, there were monkeysthat would follow cattle, and
they would eat the the poop.

(49:42):
Because that's all they wereleaving, you know, and then like
some would die.

SPEAKER_05 (49:46):
Because what's waste of another animal is food for
another.

SPEAKER_02 (49:49):
Exactly.
So they would eat the the poopand there would be mushrooms in
it.
Okay.
Well, as these monkeys ate thesethings, they started to get
effects from it.

SPEAKER_05 (50:09):
Tripping.

SPEAKER_02 (50:09):
They were tripping.
And when you're doing that, whenwhen you're tripping, I've never
done it myself, but when you'redoing it, okay, it makes you
your senses.

SPEAKER_05 (50:20):
Ah, right.

SPEAKER_02 (50:21):
You know, they get heightened.
And so then they were likeclimbing up in trees and like
they were started to use tools,they started to use language,
and it was that small shift thatthen created that 10,000 years
of um uh you know, thriving andjust um uh what's the word that

(50:46):
I'm looking for?
Um, you know, going from likenot organized to like very
organized evolution.

SPEAKER_03 (50:55):
That's it.

SPEAKER_02 (50:57):
So that's where the evolution came from.
It was monkeys eating mushrooms.
Right.
I'm telling you, that's one ofthe like the the the the the
theories that I've heard thatlike really kind of like makes a
lot of sense, yeah.
You know, yeah, um, and itreally like makes you can make
connect some dots, yeah.

(51:18):
You know, it's pretty cool.
So um, yeah.
Uh let's see here.
What else do we want to talkabout?
Yeah, what else do you want totalk about?
I mean, I feel like we wentthrough a lot of information.
You know what?
Oh, I I got a I got a segmenthere.

SPEAKER_05 (51:35):
Well, what is it?
Yeah.
I mean, because I could talk allday.

SPEAKER_02 (51:40):
I know, I know.
You can our next guest is here.
So I think we want to end inlike five or we want to end in
ten.
Okay, ten minutes.
Is that okay with you?

SPEAKER_04 (51:49):
Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 (51:50):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (51:51):
Um I have some questions that I'm gonna ask
you.
Okay, but before that, do youthink there's anything that you
want to um you know that youwant to say?

SPEAKER_05 (52:04):
Okay, there's one thing you can do.

unknown (52:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (52:07):
So check out the commons.
Because what I know is that justone percent will save the world.
Okay.
If we reduce our consumptionhabits by just one percent.
Yeah, I like the one percent.

(52:28):
Just one percent.
If everyone just did their onepercent, okay, it would be
enough.
It would be enough.
So one percent could look likelet's say uh you buy gas on a
weekly basis.
Okay, what if one week, just oneweek you didn't buy gas.

(52:48):
And instead that week you getcreative with what you're gonna
do.
That's enough of a one that'sone that's what 1% looks like.
Yeah.
Buying one less gas tank in ayear.

SPEAKER_03 (53:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (53:00):
Which, if everyone did that, that would offset more
emissions than the entire USmilitary industrial complex.

SPEAKER_02 (53:10):
Really?

SPEAKER_05 (53:11):
They're the biggest users.

SPEAKER_02 (53:12):
Okay, wait, let's let's talk about that real
quick.
Okay, back to our regularlyscheduled programming.
Let's talk about the 1%.

SPEAKER_05 (53:25):
The good 1%, the 1% that you can do.

SPEAKER_02 (53:28):
Yeah, what's the 1% that people can do in order to
make reduce, reduce, and refuse?

SPEAKER_05 (53:36):
Yeah.
Just reduce, reduce yourconsumption and your consumption
of resources.

SPEAKER_02 (53:44):
Okay, so reduce that so go to your fridge right now,
take that red magic marker, andwrite reduce on that bad boy.
Okay?
Thank you for doing that forboth from both of us.
Yeah, you're cool if you do,obviously.

SPEAKER_05 (54:00):
Mother Nature.

SPEAKER_02 (54:00):
Yeah, Mother Nature will yeah, thinks you're cool.
Nice.
Um, okay, let's see here.
Um, I want to ask you a fewquestions.
I got okay, now this is rapidfire.

SPEAKER_05 (54:12):
So the rapid fire part?

SPEAKER_02 (54:13):
Yeah, we're gonna go right.
We're going right into it.
I'm ready.
We're getting rapid fire intorapid fire.

SPEAKER_05 (54:17):
I'm gonna go so rapid.

SPEAKER_02 (54:18):
Okay.
Are you Kay, you ready?

SPEAKER_05 (54:21):
Ready.

SPEAKER_02 (54:21):
Okay.
How would life be different ifwe could all read each other's
thoughts?

SPEAKER_05 (54:26):
Oh God, that's how we anticipate each other's needs
and just like show up for eachother.

SPEAKER_02 (54:31):
Right?
Wow.
You would already know.

SPEAKER_05 (54:33):
No guesswork?

unknown (54:34):
No.

SPEAKER_05 (54:35):
Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 (54:35):
Yeah, just straight to the point.
Yeah, man.
Love that.
That was easy.
Right.
Easy.
Um, okay.
Do you think crying is a goodthing or a bad thing?

SPEAKER_05 (54:43):
Absolutely, it's a good thing.
You gotta get it out.

SPEAKER_02 (54:46):
Get it out.

SPEAKER_05 (54:48):
Good or bad.
You know, you cry I cry whetherit's a an emotion.
An emotion.

SPEAKER_02 (54:54):
I cry.
Is that the right words?

SPEAKER_05 (54:58):
What's the no?

SPEAKER_02 (54:59):
It's I swear.
Because I swear.

SPEAKER_05 (55:01):
Oh, by the by the moon in the sky.

SPEAKER_02 (55:05):
Sorry, I mixed my words up, but I'll be there.

SPEAKER_05 (55:08):
I'll be there.

SPEAKER_02 (55:12):
Are you ready?
That's the one.
What would be the best thingabout becoming an adult?

SPEAKER_05 (55:24):
Because I'm not one already.

SPEAKER_02 (55:26):
No, but when you become one, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (55:28):
Let me think about it for what I thought it would
be.
Yeah.
Uh uh independent.
Oh making my own decisions,guys.

SPEAKER_02 (55:37):
Traveling.
You get to travel, you get to goanywhere.
Yeah.
And you're not, and you don'thave to sleep in your own bed.

SPEAKER_05 (55:44):
Yeah.
Traveling, doing making my owndecisions.

SPEAKER_02 (55:49):
Okay, what's the weirdest combination of foods
you've ever eaten?

SPEAKER_05 (55:54):
I will eat anything.

SPEAKER_02 (55:57):
Anything on the table.

SPEAKER_05 (55:58):
Uh, except for meat.
I don't eat meat anymore.
Not because I don't like to eat.
Not because I love to eat alittle bit.
How long's it been?
How long have you been?
It's been like 10 years.
What?
For the environment because it'sso unsustainable.
Ugh.

SPEAKER_02 (56:10):
You're too good.
You're too good, dude.
You're too good to mother.
You're too good to nature, dude.
She needs it.
Uh-uh.
You know, I tried for a littlebit and it didn't.
It was just really.
Well, we'll talk about that.
We'll have a whole episode onthat.
Okay, great.
Okay.
What's the best combination oftwo cereals?

SPEAKER_05 (56:28):
Ooh, let's think about what comes to mind.
Let's see something chocolatey,something peanut butter.

SPEAKER_02 (56:33):
Count chocolate and the PB.

SPEAKER_05 (56:36):
What is that?

SPEAKER_02 (56:36):
PB swizzles.

SPEAKER_05 (56:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (56:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (56:38):
Yeah, you said it.
It's something like that.

SPEAKER_02 (56:41):
I forget what they're called.
All right.
What's the worst candy you'veever eaten?

SPEAKER_05 (56:49):
The worst?

SPEAKER_02 (56:50):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 (56:52):
So it used to be licorice, but now I like it.
I had a salty licorice?
Whoa.
Oh.
That's advanced.

SPEAKER_02 (57:01):
Luckily you got it.
Luckily you got out of there.
I'm glad you got it out of therea lot.

SPEAKER_05 (57:06):
It's an advanced candy flavor for I don't know
who.

SPEAKER_02 (57:10):
Okay, you ready?
What was the last movie youcried at?
You cried to?

SPEAKER_05 (57:16):
Oh man.
I cried at all of them.
The last one I saw.
The last one I saw was I didn'tcry in.
Um okay.
What's the last movie I saw?
I cried.
You know, the ones about thedocumentaries about you know,
actually, when I saw the bluezones, I cried at that.

(57:37):
Did you?

SPEAKER_02 (57:37):
Nice.
Good cry.
Yeah, it was a good cry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, okay, uh this is a good one.
What's one word you know youcan't spell?

SPEAKER_05 (57:49):
Kaleidoscope, because I just tried it the
other day.

SPEAKER_02 (57:52):
Did you?

SPEAKER_05 (57:52):
Yeah, I messed it up.

SPEAKER_02 (57:53):
C O L L I O C O L A I.

SPEAKER_05 (57:58):
It starts with a K.

SPEAKER_02 (58:03):
Never mind.
K-A-L-A-K-A-L-A-I.
E I.
E I.
D E S C O P.
D-O-S-C-O-P.
Now I know.
Jesus.

SPEAKER_05 (58:15):
Now you know.

SPEAKER_02 (58:16):
If you don't know, now you know.
Okay.
You have to delete every singlephoto you've ever taken except
one.
You don't have to show up, butwhich which one would it be?
Describe it.

SPEAKER_05 (58:28):
Oh, heaven on earth.
I found it in Ometepe,Nicaragua.

SPEAKER_00 (58:33):
Oh, cool.

unknown (58:35):
Omatepe.

SPEAKER_02 (58:38):
Okay, if you could ask your family pet one
question, what would it be?
Butch?
Butch, we're speaking to you.

SPEAKER_05 (58:51):
What was it like living with dad?
Because like he was my dog, butthen my dad moved and took the
dog with him.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Huh.
And then he came back, but like,what was it like while you were
with dad?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (59:07):
Good question.
What's the best part of as'more?

SPEAKER_05 (59:13):
The cooked marshmallow.

SPEAKER_02 (59:16):
Oh, the mallow.
Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_05 (59:19):
And how then it melts the chocolate?
How is it even onto the grahamcracker?

SPEAKER_02 (59:25):
Onto the graham cracker.
Okay, I got one more questionfor you.

SPEAKER_05 (59:28):
What is it?

SPEAKER_02 (59:30):
Pineapple or coconut?
Ooh.

SPEAKER_05 (59:34):
It depends on the sample.
I'm gonna have to go withpineapple.

SPEAKER_02 (59:39):
Are you?
Yeah.
Okay, wow.
It's so juicy.
Juicy, juicy.

SPEAKER_05 (59:43):
And then when it's grilled, uh hot and juicy.
Coconut is flaky.
I don't know.
It depends.
I guess I've had a five thecoconut juice, is what comes to
mind.
Oh, more than the fruit.
Yeah, that is pretty juicybecause.
It's all coconut water juice.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:03):
It's water juice.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:04):
But I stand by my decision.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:05):
Definitely.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:06):
Pineapple.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:07):
Yeah.
Okay.
One more for pineapple on theboard here.
Um, okay, and one last thinghere.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:17):
Who what who is this?
What is hello?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:21):
Yeah, who does be?

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:23):
What?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:24):
Oh, this is Steph's younger self.
Yo.
How old?
Okay.
However old you want her to be.
To get the message across.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:39):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:39):
Okay.
Yeah, she wants to tell yousomething.
Yeah, she loves you.
Here you go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:47):
Hello?
Okay, check it.
Stop waiting.
Stop waiting on others to dothat thing you want to do.
You can buy the movie ticket andgo by yourself.
Yeah.
You'll probably actually enjoyit more.

(01:01:08):
Mm-hmm.
So yeah, stop waiting on others.
And uh your life is pretty,pretty good right now.
Don't worry about that either.
Just keep going.
Just keep going.
Knowing that's all gonna workout.
Don't worry about no don't worryabout no men.
That one dude.
Forget all about him.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:29):
That one.
There's always that one guy.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:31):
And if you wanted to have children, I mean there
aren't any here right now, butyou gotta decide if that's what
you really want.
Cool.
Well, it was good talking to youtoo.
Totally weird.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:46):
Tell her you love her.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:48):
Oh, I love you so much.
You're so cool.
Honestly, everyone talks abouthow cool you are.
So just like, don't forget thatpart.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:58):
Yo.
All right, Miss Cool.
I'll catch you on the flip side.
All right, love you.
Peace.
All right.
That was weird.
Wasn't it?
Dude, I wouldn't have to go.
Right?
In a in a not even.
It's the linger.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:16):
Yeah.
Not even.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:18):
Um, let's see here.
So, gosh, we went over so much,and and I just uh I can't thank
you enough for just beingpresent and really being
passionate about what you talkabout and what you do, and you
don't just talk about it, youknow, you bees about it.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean bees in the trap overhere with the C's, okay?

(01:02:38):
But uh hey, what is one messageof inspiration that you can
leave the world with?

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:53):
What did we say earlier?
We had a really good thing wesaid earlier.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:57):
You know, I think we said a lot of good things
earlier.
Um, make this from the heartthough.
Like what what you know, becauseyou uh you got some good stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:10):
Life is life is life is full of trash.
But what is trash?

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:22):
One man's trash is another man's treasure.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:25):
Treasure.
What are you gonna do with allthis opportunity you have around
here?
There's so much of it.
There's all this treasure.
What are we gonna do with it?

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:34):
Alright.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:36):
That's yeah, I think that's it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:37):
Okay.
Alright, sending out through theairwaves.
This is the conclusion of MissSteph Comp's episode.
And uh want to thank y'all forlistening and tuning in for this
episode of the RespectingPerspectives Podcast.

(01:04:01):
Give them the peace.

unknown (01:04:03):
Peace.