January 2, 2024 • 58 mins
When the tranquility of nature intertwines with the rawness of human struggle, a poignant narrative unfolds. My guest, Scott Manduck, joins me, Catherine Daniels, in a deeply personal conversation bridging the distance around the world as we explore the resilience of the human spirit through my own story. This episode is a tapestry woven with the threads of adversity and solace, as I recount a childhood marred by trauma, the profound guidance of my guardian angel at age five, and how my sanctuary in Mother Nature's arms led to an unwavering mission of healing and peace.
The pivotal moment of 'Retreat to Peace' sprang forth in the grandeur of Zion National Park, a testament to the epiphanies that shape our destinies. I share the captivating origin story of this endeavor, revealing how close encounters with the majesty of a California condor and the symbolic peace dove at my doorstep heralded a global call to unite and heal in the wake of the pandemic. Our dialogue extends to the heartrending tales of those who joined my journey, from Ireland's shores gripped by lockdowns to the struggles of a young girl's escape from human trafficking, culminating in a collective awakening.
In seeking serenity amidst chaos, we delve into strategies for inner peace and emotional resilience. The upcoming release of my workbook 'Centerpiece' aims to equip individuals with a toolkit for spiritual well-being, while the transformative coursework I have crafted promises a path to self-healing. This episode is an invitation to embrace change, detoxify from life's stressors, and engage with powerful stories that inspire hope, growth, and profound personal transformation. Join us in this heart-to-heart exchange, where shared experiences become a guiding light toward a more peaceful existence.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You, here we go.
(01:06):
Hey you, wherever you are inthe world right now.
Thank you so much for beinghere with me.
We know that we live in somevolatile times and we know that
the world is changing.
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So let's create a bridge as wetravel through one another's
countries, removing all thelabels, coming together as one
people in our home, in one world, and this is why our signature
talk today is so important.
I want to take a moment tointroduce my guest, scott
Nanduck.
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Hi, scott.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm doing great.
Thank you.
Scott is a dear friend fromCanada.
I'm here in the US, this isKatherine Daniels, and we're
going to switch gears a littlebit this time.
During this episode, we aregoing to actually take an
opportunity to have Scottinterview me and he's going to
take a little bit of a deeperdive into, about my journey and
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give you guys some insightaround who I am and, of course,
as you know, retreat to peace.
So, scott, I'm going to let youtake the rain as everybody
settles in and we get started.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's kind of fun switching the roles, isn't it?
Definitely we're going to havesome fun here.
So a big thing is like whatreally got you started,
Katherine?
What got you doing what you doto be the person you are today?
What got you started?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, it's so intriguing because I've spent a
lot of time working with a lotof people throughout my life and
my journey just talking to themabout who I am as a person,
because people have always beenvery intrigued.
And it's really interestingbecause, you know, we all have
this story that we show up withand I know, as a mom and my kids
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have always said, I can't waitto grow up, I can't wait to grow
up, and it's like wait a second, take a breath and just be
where you are in your momenttoday, because your childhood is
just a short window of timecompared to your adulthood,
right?
So with my childhood, it'sreally an unconventional
childhood in the sense that atthree years old, my mother locks
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, you know, me and my littlebrother up in a closet and the
closet shelf had fallen on topof our heads and, of course,
this induced trauma for us andwe, of course, retain this
trauma in our bodies whenever wego through trauma.
We hold on to this informationon a cellular level, which is
why we can remember a lot ofthings that happen that are
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really bad, and that experienceopened up this gateway of a lot
of trauma Literally every kindof abuse that a human could
experience.
I had experienced, and at fiveyears old I had this beautiful
experience of witnessing myguardian angel and during that
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time it really shifted my gearsbecause it allowed me to see
things differently.
But when my parents wentthrough their divorce, we went
to go live with my grandparentsand that experience also made a
huge shift in my mindset.
So it's interesting becausewhen we go through our journeys,
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you know we're looking for thissense of where do we have this
peace or this joy within our ownbeing?
And when I lived with mygrandparents they had this
monster house.
I mean, we had a library in thenorth end of the house, we had
a library in the south end ofthe house, we had a prep kitchen
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, an eating kitchen.
We sat at a dining room tablenightly that seated 12.
And all of that, said, it wasreally interesting because you
know, we were literally to beseen and not heard.
And I know through my walk I'veheard a lot of people say, well
, yeah, you know, I had thatkind of upbringing too, but the
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difference was was thatliterally, you know, I was in
that house specifically just toeat, and then I was outside, and
then I was in that housespecifically to go to sleep.
And then I was.
You know it was either eatingor sleeping and the rest of it
was like pretty much off limits,and if it was winter, summer,
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spring, fall, it didn't matter.
You know, you were expected tobe outside and the weather was
really, really bad.
Then you were given permissionto play down in the basement.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Wow, there's no love, there's no caring, there's no
interaction, there's no.
This is what life's all about.
There's no tools given, there'snothing for you to really guide
you through your journey.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Exactly, exactly.
So, yeah, so you know the fewtoys that we had.
It was actually my, you know,my aunt's toys or my dad's toys
that we discovered like in thehouse and those few things that
were left over from theirchildhood was really all that we
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had.
My mother, you know, was gone,so she was out of my life and it
was interesting because,literally, you know, the story
that was fed to us was that youknow your dad's working a lot or
whatever.
So there was a lot ofabandonment, as you stated, a
lot of abuse, and the only timethat there was this sense of
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freedom as a child was when youwere outside and actually
exploring the woods.
So I used to remember the storyof Hansel and Gretel and you
know the two little kids, thelittle boy and the little girl
and they're, you know, going onthe path and they're leaving
their little trail ofbreadcrumbs.
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And it was really interestingbecause I can remember,
specifically as a little girl,just making that decision, like
I'm going to go into the woods.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's great.
So from such a young age,you're connected with a higher
power if you will, with MotherNature, to really that was your
guidance.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And Mother Nature was such a powerful force in my
life because, as the seasonschanged, I was able to witness
you know this literally like thejourney of life how we go
through our seasons as humanbeings.
And I was able to witness somuch about Mother Nature and so
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in tune and aware of the birdsand the changes that would
happen within nature.
And you know, even with thelittle bunnies in the springtime
and you know, just coming outto feed on the morning grass and
the dew, there was just so muchbeauty and grace in Mother
Earth and no awarenesswhatsoever how much healing
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properties were happening withinmy body as a little girl, just
being out in nature and justgrounding, you know that sense
of connecting with Mother Earthand all those healing properties
from grounding were just soastounding and so life changing
for me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
For sure.
And how would you so, from thestuff that you've gone through
this amazing journey thus far tobring you to this fast forward
a few years?
What have you learned throughthat process and how are you
using, I guess, some of thesetools to really guide you to
what you want to do and how youare now in the position you are
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Like, how are we making thatconnection to really do what
you're doing?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, it's really intriguing because when you go
through a lot of abuse as asmall child and you're in your
formative years, you definitelyget a sense of this idea of your
physical safety right.
So like your physical being,whether or not it is protected,
whether or not you are, you knowin such a space that you're
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okay.
And because I had that senseabout me and because I was sense
silenced right because I was tobe seen and not heard, it just
kind of heightened thatawareness of I had to be super
careful about how I showed up inthe world and what I offered
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and you know how I presentedmyself.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So it also put me in a space where I was constantly
assessing my environment, youknow, as I save and where was I
in the grand scheme of things.
And, interestingly enough, as Istarted to grow and as I
started to go through school andstart to be in the presence of
other people, there was thiscontinuous stream of
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consciousness that would come atme by other people just saying
how could you be so grounded,how could you?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
be so centered.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
How can you be so peaceful and?
you know, radiate what youradiate into the world.
And at the time it was reallykind of a struggle for me to
identify with where this wascoming from, because I thought
everybody had this ability orthis way to tap into their own
inner being and do this kind ofwork for themselves and trust
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their inner guidance that allhuman beings are wired with.
And when I had that aha momentthat the download of what most
people were downloaded withinformation was really provided
from what it was that they hadin their own environment,
whether it was the television,whether it was the projections
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of the adults, in their life,you know, sharing information
with them, or you know, toys ormaterialism, whatever it was
right.
They were programmed with thatinformation, whereas I had a
completely clean slate inregards to the programming, my
programming.
Yes, there was this trauma, butI knew at five years old that
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this trauma, this programmingwas already wrong.
And, having witnessed theguardian angel at five, she
already was showing me that Iwas not alone and just being in
a space of not being alone wasso comforting for me because I
always knew that I had somehigher power, some, you know,
protection around me and itreally did allow me to, you know
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, really feel secure that, eventhough things were not right in
my world like just having theawareness that it wasn't right
it changed the perception of howI went forward in my life as
well.
So as people started to come tome and really say, you know,
how can you be, you know who youare and how can you be in this
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space, they started to ask memore and more questions.
They started to ask me, theystarted to ask me how they could
attain what it was that I had.
And I, in the beginning, whenyou know, much, many years ago,
I always was intrigued by thatbecause I was like, but you have
this, you have this in your DNA, you have this as a human being
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.
So that ability to tap into ourwellness and that peacefulness
and that peaceful state issomething that I now help to
teach people and you know youasked me how we got here.
Like, literally, this wholeretreat to peace was just
created because the entire worldis in that state and the entire
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world needs the safe healingspace and, you know, tools
offered to them that they canimplement immediately to help
undo some of the trauma that ishappening and occurring in the
world that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That's amazing.
So I know a little bit of thestory, but let's talk to the
listeners on how retreat topeace came to be.
Like, how did that name come?
Because it's such a powerful,meaningful thing literally that
people really don't understandhow that came to be, and I think
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that'd be kind of cool for thelisteners to really kind of get
into it and take a bite out ofit.
So tell us how that came to be.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, so last September I literally woke up at
3.30 in the morning and wastold that I'm going to be
running retreat to peace, and Ihad no idea what that was.
I woke up in the morning and Iwas just so confused Like what
does this mean?
What is going on with this?
Yeah, it was just reallyinteresting and I had this
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amazing opportunity to travelout on the West Coast of the
United States and I was in thisnational park and had this
phenomenal experience where Iwas driving in the dark and it
was pitch black and we weregoing through this canyon and my
daughter and I literallycouldn't see but a few feet
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ahead of us with the high beamson the car and there was a wing
of a bird that took over theentire windshield of the car and
in a moment it was like, oh mygosh, what just happened?
And it was kind of I shouldn'tsay kind of it was frightening.
So my daughter and I were justlike, ok, this is pretty intense
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.
And after our screaming episodewe kind of calmed down and then
got our what just happened.
Yes, yes.
So we get through the group.
We get through this canyon atZion National Park and we're in
Springdale, utah.
I'm checking into a hotel andfor anybody who's never been to
Zion National Park, part of thepark experience is that you go
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through a mile and a third.
I think it is tunnel that goesthrough the mountain and at
night it is pretty intense.
So when I checked into thehotel, the woman at the desk
cast me about my drive in and Ihad shared with her a little bit
about how the intensity of thisdrive was not sharing, about
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this wing of the bird takingover the windshield, and she
said so are you going to theNational Park tomorrow?
And I said yes, and she said,well, if you're really lucky,
you'll get to see a Californiacondor.
And I think I just went threesheets of white because I had no
idea.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think I just met one firsthand.
Yes, yes.
I virtually high-fived.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yes.
So she says did you see one?
And I said I said I'm not sure,but this wing of a bird took
over the windshield of the car.
And she goes on to explain thatthe California condor is the
largest bird in North Americaand can have a minimum a 10-foot
wingspan.
And there was thisrevitalization or is this
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revitalization project forbringing back the condor that
was going extinct?
And I literally was stillpicking my job off the ground.
And she goes on to explain howamazing experience it says,
because this is actually goingto put a new spin on life and
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how things were just going tototally change.
So I knew this major momentneeded to be banked because it
was part of retreat to peace,but I didn't understand why.
So, as we fast forward throughthe holidays, I am back out on
the West Coast and I'm going,I'm in an airplane and this is
in January 2020.
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And, as a reminder for most ofyou, in January COVID-19 was in
Wuhan, china, and everything wasin lockdown.
So, as I am flying across thecountry, I'm reading a passage
in a book about the prophecy ofthe eagle and the condor.
It literally took my breathaway because, as I was reading
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it, it was just astounding howthis 2,000-year-old Native
American prophecy was predictingthat mankind literally would be
put into a place where hundredsand thousands of people around
the globe would lose their livesand it literally would take all
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of the eagles quote unquote ofthe world, which would be the
doctors, the nurses, thepharmacy, the scientists, like
all of these people and all ofthe condors of the world, which
be the mothers, the teachers,the healers, the lightworkers,
to literally build a bridge andto show this unity around the
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world where people are comingtogether to literally save lives
.
So when I read this I was justlike, oh my goodness, yeah,
because I knew in an instantthat COVID-19 was going to fly.
And it was going to beeverywhere and I also knew that
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that need to be banked with theCalifornia Contour.
So leading into February Iprayerfully just asked
frequently around the world whatis coming for the world.
And this beautiful, beautifulwhite piece of head presented
itself for two weeks around myhome.
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And it's unusual because whereI live we don't have white piece
of so for it to show upindividually by itself the way
that it did it was justastounding, like completely
astounding.
So I made sure I got my cameraout, called everybody I could
check this out, look into this.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What does this mean?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, for me it was justbeautiful because it really
offered a sense of manifestingthis state of peace that the
world needs for healing.
And again, I knew that was partof retreat to peace, but I
still didn't have a lot ofclarity around it.
So if we fast forward up tosummer, I literally was told OK,
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I want you to put a post askingfor speakers to just speak, and
that's it.
I didn't know what that meant,so I put that out in the morning
and I just walked away from itnot really understanding what
was going on yet.
But the next several meetingsthat I had throughout my day
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just changed me, because one Ihad a woman that was in Ireland
and she was explaining thattheir country, the way that they
were in lockdown, that it justfelt like this prison, like they
couldn't leave, they couldn'tdo anything, they needed
government approval.
And she said the only way Ifeel like I can get out of
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prison is if I were to die.
And I literally said, please,please, please, listen to what
I'm saying.
Part of trauma andpsychological trauma is all
these kinds of things that arehappening, whether it's grief or
the constant bombardment of thenegative messaging, the anger,
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all of these different things,and as I spoke to her about this
, it gave her a different lenson the world, which gave her
some more compassion for herfellow humans that she's with.
But then, as we talk through it, I also said to her everybody's
in a period of grief of somestage.
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So whether you believe in thefive stages or the seven stages
of grief, there's a stage ofgrief that you are witnessing
playing out around the world inall varieties.
Now, without getting into allthose stages, the next part of
this, I mean for the next 36hours this woman continuously
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reaches out and just thanks meprofusely from the bottom of her
heart because literally shesaid, you changed my life.
I literally wanted to die andyou put a different lens and
changed my life, my next meaningthat I had gone into.
I spoke with a woman.
This one's a little tough.
So I spoke with a woman and shewas sharing with me that she
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adopted a little girl.
The little girl is 10 years oldand she didn't know the
backstory of the little girl butas the way things have been
developing, the backstory wasthis little girl was part of the
human trafficking.
That really gut checked mebecause the level of abuse and
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for this little girl she wasactually locked in a cage and
she was part of that sextrafficking ring and human
trafficking and all of that andthat really gut checked me
because being a survivor of alllevels of abuse, including
sexual abuse, I can honestly saythat literally hit me to my
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core on such a deep, deep level.
So my next phone call I had witha friend, she was telling me
I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry Ican't really talk right now
because my sister is bringing mynephew who's 18, who was not
able to graduate high school ina traditional sense, to the
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hospital because he's suicidal.
And after these three meetingsit was abundantly clear to me
that retreat to peace was tocreate a safe healing space for
individuals to go to, to learnways that they can navigate
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through the darkness.
And my job was literally justto band an army of earth angels
to come together and create thisplatform to allow the world to
come to and heal and also offerwhatever I had to help in this
healing process, because mystory, as astounding as it is
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and life changing, it's just one, and that was the thing that
predominantly kept comingthrough is that your story is
one story.
We need a banding of a bunch ofstories to help the world heal.
But, there was another thingthat happened which was really
interesting.
So when I went back to my post,I had this amazing, crazy
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amount of people that hadresponded and as I started to
talk to them, one by one, theysaid I had no idea why I reached
out to you, I had no idea whatyou were doing, but something
was pulling me to be part ofthis project.
And every single person, theconnection that was made and
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literally around the globe,literally around the globe, the
connection that was made, and intheir life they had signs that
were showing up, that wereleading them to this project in
a different capacity.
So when you talk about thesynchronicity, when you talk
about the way things areorchestrated, I mean it is way
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bigger than us, way higher thanus, and just so amazingly
beautiful.
But here's what happened.
I am so overwhelmed by all ofthis that I go outside and I
just look up to the heavens andI just said I don't know why you
chose me.
And then I was like nope, nope,I retract that, I've got this,
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I'm gonna go, just all in, I'mgonna go.
And as I started walking down myroad to go see the sunset, my
neighbor was putting out histrash and I took a moment to
speak with him and we hadn'tseen each other for quite some
time.
But as we were talking, he saysI really feel like right now
we're in this place of goodversus evil.
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And I said I understand whatyou're saying.
It does feel like that becausethe energies are so heavy around
the world, which is why thisproject is so necessary and so
needed right now.
But the interesting thing is wewere just talking high level
and he says to me he goes hey,you didn't happen to see that
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white piece of stuff that wasflying around the neighborhood
in February, did you?
And I was like what did youjust say?
And he says yes, he goes, I sawit.
And he said, and I told him, Isaid absolutely, I saw it.
And he said well, theinteresting thing about it was
when I saw it, it had two baldeagles flying with it.
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And I just started to crybecause I was like the prophecy
says the eagle and the condor isstanding together.
And I had the condor experience.
He saw the eagles.
It was just anotherconfirmation of this higher
power at work.
And that night, when I closed myeyes, I prayerfully just
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surrendered to this wholeproject.
And what came to me next was Iwas supposed to ask each one of
my guest speakers I mean, we sooften find signs that are
presented to us of people or avisit from someone that we knew
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that has passed on and that canbe in the form of seeing a red
cardinal or a bluebird or abutterfly, or finding a feather
on the ground and I was told askeach one of your guest speakers
If I were to find your earthangel feather on the ground,
what would your message to theworld be?
And when I started to sharethat with all of my speakers, it
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was astounding the reaction.
It was astounding the messagesand, as I've interviewed people
for this platform, I cannot eventell you how personally moving
it's been for me, because I'veliterally witnessed
transformations withinindividuals where they are
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channeling information from ahigher power.
And I'm not even saying thatlightly.
I mean it's been the mostbeautiful thing I think I've
ever been part of.
But that is the story ofRetreat to Peace in.
What a wild ride, an amazingride, and I still have no idea
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what's ahead or how it'sunfolding.
But I'm okay, I'm fullysurrendered and it's all great.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
We have some good ideas, though we have some
things that we know that we'reworking on, that we'll be
sharing.
So, with all that which I stilllike, I'm in awe with that
story because it's just.
It's so amazing how the starsalign, literally, and how
stories are put together and howshifts happen naturally and for
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a reason, and it's a powerfulreason that we're helping others
and serving others, at whateverlevel it may be.
We all have our space, that weare here to serve and help
others and, with all the stuffthat you've been going like, how
do you envision yourselfhelping your guests, your
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clients, your patients, whateverthat may be?
Like, how are you envisioningthat to really become Retreat to
Peace?
Like, how is that?
Like, to me it's gonna be ashift right into it, naturally,
but like, how do you see that?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It is a beautiful, amazing journey, right?
So life is a journey, and Ithink the thing that I recognize
more than anything is thatpeople want to resist change.
People want to resist theprocess of changing because
they've got so used toconforming, to being comfortable
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, that they're afraid to getuncomfortable.
And the beautiful part of beinguncomfortable is that that's
where you're growing right.
So that's something that rightnow, even though people are
looking at this time like this,is a you know, I've literally
heard people say 2020 is a lostyear, like it's just lost, and I
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hear that and I cringe becauseit's like, wait a second.
Like this is a beautiful spaceto cross over into another place
in time where you're going tobe completely different, right,
and for some people it's justcocooning right Like a butterfly
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, like you're metamorphosinginto something even more
beautiful, and for those peopleit's just going inward and doing
this self-work.
What COVID-19 has done is it'sforced people to go inward and
face the stuff that they don'twant to face about themselves,
because everything has beenquieted.
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And the interesting thing aboutRetreat to Peace is that no
offense to Hollywood, but peopleare tired of not having a quote
, unquote relatable platform inspace where other people can
really connect.
So that's what this space doesas well.
So, as we move forward, it'sthis Retreat to Peace platform
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is really to embrace thechanging part of you.
It really is to offer that safespace and provide tools that
will allow you to live yourauthentic life in the best
possible way that can be.
So For many people, like I said,it is just going inward.
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But then, when you go inward,it's like what do I do with this
discomfort?
What do I do with?
You know, I'm holding ontostuff that I don't know how to
release, I don't know how toforgive, I don't know how to
change something about myselfbecause I'm so uncomfortable.
Or maybe I've been manifestingdisease in my body because I
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have been putting in pure stuffinto myself, or maybe I have
been self-sabotaging my lifebecause of my mindset, like I'm
not consciously making myselfaware of how I'm self-sabotaging
myself, whether you know, likeI said, it's creating the
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disease because of the foodsyou're eating, or it's the
mindset and how you're goinginto your walk in your day to
day.
So this retreat to peace, it isthat space that gives you those
tools.
But the tools are graduated in asense, where I have written a
book that will be released intothe world, real soon, called a
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centerpiece, meaning centerwithin yourself and having that
peaceful state.
And this is a book that is aworkbook that you specifically
are going to create that healingtoolbox for yourself.
Because the one thing that Iknow is that my toolbox doesn't
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work for everybody.
Like, we all have our own stuff, so we all have our own toolbox
.
One size does not fit all, andthat's the point of this book is
that it is not supposed to.
It is supposed to bespecifically for you.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But that's also yeah, I want to stop you on that
because what we're dealing withright now just to emphasize on
what you just said, because Ithink it's super important for
people to understand that peoplewant 2020 to be done with
already.
To me, 2020 is the year oflessons and, as you were saying
is I always say life is a school, and when you say that, you
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bring what you just said to abigger light, because the past
six months, seven months, we'vereally had to look at ourselves
and understand ourselves better.
Our families More people thannot are outside now, walking
outside as families.
They do their daily family walk.
If it wasn't for COVID, thatwould have never happened.
(34:30):
So they're starting to makethese healthy shifts in their
brain that, with the tools thatyou were just talking about,
they can actually startunlocking this higher power that
they have with insidethemselves.
So this book that you're writing, I think, is gonna be so
powerful for people, becausethey need just a little bit of
(34:51):
direction, they need a littlebit of guidance, and so, with
this tool and guidance, how canpeople like, with the tools that
you're sharing, is there anyother ways that people can
utilize?
So you've also written anotherbook as well, so we should talk
about that as well.
So you've written a couple ofbooks.
She's being shy here, people.
She's being a little talk aboutit, so I'm pulling it out of
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her.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm very humble, can you tell?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But, jess, you have these amazing tools that people
need to really experience abetter life and a new life, and
these tools that you're havingand that you're sharing, these
are the tools that people needand want that they should have
in their house and every house.
So talk a little bit about yourmore than one book and how they
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can actually get this book,because it's gonna be so
powerful.
And then I have another thingthat I'm gonna trick you on at
the end.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Oh, so trickster, yeah, so a couple of things.
I think what really got megoing on writing my book to
begin with was this journey andthis journey that I've been on,
because what was reallyastounding throughout my life is
my mom walked me in this closetand then it ensued on this
(36:13):
space where it was like a lot oftrauma and she was out of my
life and I really didn't havethat parental guidance.
So there was a lot ofabandonment and I didn't have
this parental guidance.
And it was interesting becauseas a little girl, it was like I
was always on this quest.
I'm always like littledetective, looking for the signs
(36:35):
, looking for the clues, lookingfor something that she existed
or was there or something Likewhere did she go?
Like how did she just disappear?
Like all of these things.
And consistently throughout mylife, people are saying you need
to write your story, you needto write your story.
And it was like no, no, no, no,I don't wanna do it, I don't
(36:57):
wanna do it.
And then, finally, it was likeoh okay I.
the calling was so intense andso powerful.
It was like, okay, I'm gonna doit.
So I finally did it.
I've not fully released all ofthis quite yet.
It's in process because I'mlistening to Spirit and the
(37:20):
higher power and I'm going to bereleasing them.
Yeah yes, yes, so there is amethod to this and it's not mine
.
Like I said, I'm fullysurrendered, so, yeah, so this
was part of like, literally whenI finished writing that book
(37:40):
and it's like over 300 pages andit's filled with a lot of stuff
and it's a riveting story, it'sa page turner and a lot of
questions, and by the time youget to the end, the few people
that have read it had just said,oh my goodness, like you know,
because they couldn't understandthe grace, the forgiveness, the
(38:03):
intensity of all of this stuffand how I could give that to
other individuals who had donethis kind of thing.
But what's interesting too isthat not only did this guardian
angel show up for me, but atthree years old and I say this
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all the time for people thatdon't believe me, I'm sorry if
this makes you angry, but it isa fact that we are gifted our
experiences.
We are gifted our experiencesbecause we are supposed to learn
from them.
So the people that used to sayto me, like that's horrible,
that your mother locked you intoa closet, I would say you know
(38:46):
what?
I can turn that inside out,because what I learned that
tender age of three was thatthat light under the doorway was
life sustaining and that lightwas the source of life.
Like when we come into thisworld, we go into the light and
when we leave this world, we gointo the light.
So that alone was just like ahuge, huge thing for me
(39:11):
throughout my life, because withanything and I'm gonna repeat
this with anything that you'regoing through, your peace is in
the light.
So the more you operate fromthat light space, moving into
the light with love, withgratitude, with serenity, with
(39:33):
forgiveness and again I'll saythat again the more you operate
in that light.
That's where you're going tofind a lot of healing.
That's where you're gonna finda lot of healing.
So the driving force was reallyto wrap my arms around as many
people as I could with thesebooks, and then that turned into
(39:56):
okay, let's give them moretools by creating the courses,
which coursework is actuallygonna be available October 1st
of 2020.
So the coursework so let's givethem the courses that they can
actually go and do some of thisstuff, and the gift of living
with my grandparents.
That generation that was adepression era generation and
(40:20):
they went through hell.
That's a fact.
They went through hell and Iremember my grandfather sitting
us down at one point and he said, quote, unquote, I'll never
forget it he goes during yourlifetime, during your children's
lifetime.
You are guaranteed toexperience something of
equivalence to what we wentthrough.
(40:41):
And the reason being is becausepeople forget, people forget.
Oh true, and I was like, oh, mygoodness, now I would go say
this to people and people wouldbe like, ah, that's not gonna
happen, like nothing's gonnahappen, like that.
Okay, let's talk to them now.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You know Right.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, let's talk to them now.
So you know, here we are, and Ithink that too was a seed that
was planted for me, because itmade me recognize that I had
this unique awareness.
And a lot of people right noware really struggling with a lot
of anxiety because there's somuch in the future and the
(41:26):
concern around that.
And then there was a lot ofpeople that are living in a
state of depression becausethey're living in the past.
They're living in that paststate that they used to be in
with their life.
And I was having a conversationover the weekend with a friend
and I was saying I think it's sointeresting that during the
(41:47):
depression, a lot of women did alot of needlework, a ton of
needlework, right, and if youthink back, like there were
doilies and there were needlepointed chairs and pillows and
this and that and all of thisstuff, but what you don't
(42:08):
realize is just that simple actof that needlework was forcing
them to be present, to be in thehere and now, and was probably
the best gift they could havegiven themselves in that space,
in the here and now.
So if there's any gift that youcan give yourself, like, do
something that is going to makeyou feel present and be in the
(42:33):
here and now.
So there's so much.
I mean, we could keep on goingfor hours, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
And I think it's important for people to be in
the present, as you're saying,but in so many ways is put down
the electronics, let's, let'sspend time with our loved ones,
let's get outside.
And it's funny.
You and I were talking earlieron and it sounds cliche and
sounds weird.
But hug a tree, right, and it'sjust funny.
(43:01):
It sounds the weirdest thingever, but you'd be surprised on
what happens in a silly moment,in the present moment, and how
grounding that is.
It's these small little toolsthat will help us get through
what we're going through andhelp others.
We need that ripple effect,right.
That's what this whole retreatto piece.
It's in a ripple effect ofpositivity, of love, gratitude,
(43:25):
and that is what's gonna get usthrough this.
So you set a little snippet ofsomething that I just wanna
bring back to the forefront,because it's a big thing that's
happening.
That I think needs to be reallyput on the top of the billboard
is a lot of the tools thatyou're working on.
There's something that you'reworking on that's coming very
(43:46):
soon, that people will be ableto get these tools, and I've
heard a little bit from a coursethat you're working on.
Let's talk about this course.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, yeah.
So the coursework is going tobe a multi-tiered approach,
where you can go in and you canpick what will be in your budget
, will be in your, I guess,heart space, as far as what
talks to you, as far as workingon yourself and the things that
you need to help heal you andthose kinds of things.
(44:18):
It really does go into thisemotional space that you're in.
It goes into where are you inyour physical space, where are
you as a human, showing up withyour mind, body, soul right and
looking at the ways that you canuse natural tools?
(44:41):
Because you talked about thisability to hug a tree.
I am such a tree hugger andpeople know it.
I'm not afraid to tell you that.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It sounds weird and corny and silly, but it's gotta
be there, right?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, but honestly, the Japanese they call it forest
bathing.
It's actually calledshinrenyuku.
I probably said that wrong andI'm really sorry, but really it
is a practice of spending timein forested areas for enhancing
health, wellness and happiness,and it is a quietness that you
(45:23):
intentionally go into the forestand you heal right, and I was
practicing this forest bathingas a small child and had no idea
that that's how I was healingmy body.
But for a lot of people theydon't have the ability to go
into a forest, so what do theydo?
(45:44):
And that was something thewoman in Ireland that she had
talked about.
She was just like I don't havethat kind of ability in my space
.
So in this coursework there aremethods and ways that I teach
you that you can go into thisspace and do this healing work,
(46:05):
and part of it is let's justlook at a lot of different
things, like earlier I talkedabout.
What are you doing with yourbody?
Are you detoxing your body?
Are you exposed to elementsaround your environment that are
creating you to get sick?
A lot of people don't evenunderstand the impact of what
(46:27):
stress does to a body right orhow they're manifesting disease
within themselves because oftheir environment or because of
toxic whatever that may be thatword.
Toxic, that could be yourrelationships, that could be
what you're putting into yourbody, that could be what you're
(46:48):
putting into your brain.
That could be so many differentthings.
So let's look at some of that.
Let's look at ways to unwind itand, bigger than that, let's
look at the technique of healing, and I'm doing it and fixing it
.
So this is where we can adjustand shift and make a forward
(47:11):
movement.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's awesome, yeah.
So we're talking about youramazing, amazing course and how
people can go through yourcourse to help them with.
Obviously, it's emotional,physical and mental traumas that
we deal with in life, so youhave a lot of amazing tools that
you have to offer and share.
So, in this course that we'retalking about, will they be able
(47:35):
to go through this course andreally nail down what they're
trying to really self help?
Because that's really what it'sgoing to be right.
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So in this course, they're going to be able to go
through a lot of steps that aregoing to give them the toolbox
that they need to navigate lifein a very peaceful and tranquil
state, versus being in a statewhere maybe they're reliving
events that are creating selfsabotage whether that, like I
(48:04):
said earlier, that's introducingtoxins that they shouldn't be
introducing into their life overand over creating disease,
things like that.
And some of that's just mindset.
Some of that is just goingthrough the house literally and
redesigning your journey so thatit is a healthy journey versus
(48:25):
unhealthy journey, and a lot ofpeople don't even realize what
they're doing because they'velost the ability to go inward
within themselves and withintheir space, to recognize that
this is how they were programmed, this is what they know, this
is what they default to.
So to open their eyes tosomething else and then give
(48:47):
them the new lens, kind of likethe woman in Ireland when she
had a different lens it was likethat aha moment.
These are the aha moments andinstead of taking years and
years and years to figure it out, I've condensed it into moments
literally.
So let's bust through this inmoments versus trying to
(49:08):
redesign the process or what itlooks like and I know for a lot
of people forgiveness work is abig one because they're holding
onto that stress.
So I have a whole exercisethat's just specifically around
releasing some of that traumathat you may be holding onto and
doing that forgiveness work.
(49:29):
So that's just one example ofmany.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
That's amazing.
When you know what the magicword is, you know what the last
question is going to be is whendo you think it's gonna be
available?
When do you think your booksare gonna be out?
When do you think your courseis becoming?
You don't need to say an exactdate.
When do you think it's gonna beavailable for people to utilize
these tools, cause we need themnow more than ever?
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Like we need our hands on great, efficient,
effective tools that have beenproven to work.
Like when are they gonna beavailable?
When are they ready?
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah.
So October is the big, the biggo.
The beginning of October thecoursework is going to be live
it's already being built as wespeak.
And October, the first week ofOctober, that's when that's all
gonna be live and the book is inprocess to be published.
So October, both are going tobe open and available to all
(50:25):
audiences around the world andyou can access them through the
Retreat to Peace, throughDreamVision, you know, radio, or
DreamVision 7 Radio rather, oryou can even go to the website
for Retreat to Peace Facebookpage.
It'll be all accessible throughthose links and you, like I
said, you, can design what it isthat you wanna create for your
(50:47):
life.
As far as this coursework, asfar as doing that self-work,
nobody can do this for you.
That is the biggest, biggestthing.
How many times do you hear, youknow, somebody, frustrated with
someone else because they're notdoing their work or
participating in their journeyto do the work?
And I just love this analogywhere it's a little bit of a
(51:11):
story.
But you have a minor who's in amining field and they are
mining for gold and they keepdigging this tunnel, digging
this tunnel, digging this tunnel, and they get to a place where
they're like they just give up.
They just give up.
They take all the tools, theygive it, basically sell it at a
(51:32):
pawn shop back in the day,whatever that was, and literally
the person they sold all theirtools to that they spent a lot
of money literally like theirlife savings to get these tools.
The person they sold the toolsto takes the tools and goes back
into that hole, back into thattunnel, and starts mining.
(51:55):
And those people that soldtheir tools were literally three
feet from hitting gold right.
So your journey is alwayschanging.
Your journey is always going tochange until the day you die.
But are you going to continueto grow through your journey, is
the question.
(52:15):
So you can choose to use thetools to get to the gold and
continue to have the gold andreap the benefits of the gold,
or you can choose to just not dothe work and give up, and then
you'll also deal with thoseconsequences.
And this is where, like, thecoursework is so, so impactful
because, literally, you don'thave to live in this state of
(52:39):
pain.
You don't have to live in thisstate of discomfort and feeling
the way that you're feeling whenyou have tools that you can use
to just course correct and bein that state of abundance and
peace and really live in yourbest life.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
That's amazing.
I am so excited to get my handson this course.
I can't wait to share it.
So just to round it up how canpeople find you?
Where's the best place to get ahold of you?
How do you want people to get ahold of you?
Because I'm sure you have avery large lineup of people to
get a hold of.
(53:16):
So how do they reach out to you?
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah, so for anyone who is interested in reaching
out, please feel free to utilizethe website.
If you're interested in beingon the show again, utilize the
website.
There'll be a continuum as faras the connection with
DreamVision 7 Radio and thewebsite.
Also Facebook, instagram,twitter, I mean.
(53:41):
They're on all platforms, sojust reach out to all of that
and the coursework will beavailable as well.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Awesome, amazing.
Well, thanks for it.
This is fun.
We had a good little reverserole here.
That was kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
It was so much fun, so so much fun.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
So inspiring, so amazing.
You can help so many millionsof people.
I can't wait and thanks again,I appreciate.
Thank you for having me on yourshow to host you.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Well, scott, it has been so much fun to have you
interview me and I, you knowthere's a lot of people you
could do this with, but, likeyou being in Canada, me being in
the United States, and we havea special connection anyway,
because Scott and I have talkednumerous times and it's just,
you know, a natural kind ofgroove.
So it's been a joy, it's been ablast and I'm just very excited
(54:34):
to get this out, you know, toeveryone and I just thank you so
much, my friend.
But, yeah, and do you have aquestion for me?
Should you ask me the questionI always ask everybody, so what
was the question again?
If I were to pick up your earth,angel feather off the ground.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
But we know that already.
We know that.
Can we just hope you just heardyour entire story, with
everything we're doing?
We know that answer.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Well, you know, honestly, in a nutshell, if I
had to answer my own question,my answer would really be just
be light.
L-i-g-h-t.
Be light, Because when you'relight, you're living in love,
You're living in forgiveness andgenerosity and you're just in a
very peaceful place and there'sso much gratitude.
(55:27):
So just just radiate that lightand be light.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
That is beautiful, I love it.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
So thank you so much, though, for doing this with me.
It's been so much fun and, ofcourse, you know this has been a
unique episode that we puttogether today for the audience
and I hope you had as much funwith it as we did putting it
together for you, and I'm surein the future we'll be doing
some more of something like this, as we, you know, go through
(55:59):
the months, but also, you know,as always, look for Retreat to
Peace on the website, look atFacebook page, go to the radio
station, the coursework, thebook coming out everything will
be available there, and that'sall we have time for today.
I'd love to do this longer, butthat's all we've got for today.
So this is Catherine Danielsand Scott Manduck, and we're
(56:24):
happy to have you as part ofthis journey with Retreat to
Peace today.
So, as always, live your lifewith abundance and peace and
have your Retreat to Peace.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you, bye, thank you.
You, here we go.
(01:06):
Hey you, wherever you are inthe world right now.
Thank you so much for beinghere with me.
We know that we live in somevolatile times and we know that
the world is changing.
(01:27):
So let's create a bridge as wetravel through one another's
countries, removing all thelabels, coming together as one
people in our home, in one world, and this is why our signature
talk today is so important.
I want to take a moment tointroduce my guest, scott
Nanduck.
(01:47):
Hi, scott.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm doing great.
Thank you.
Scott is a dear friend fromCanada.
I'm here in the US, this isKatherine Daniels, and we're
going to switch gears a littlebit this time.
During this episode, we aregoing to actually take an
opportunity to have Scottinterview me and he's going to
take a little bit of a deeperdive into, about my journey and
(02:14):
give you guys some insightaround who I am and, of course,
as you know, retreat to peace.
So, scott, I'm going to let youtake the rain as everybody
settles in and we get started.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's kind of fun switching the roles, isn't it?
Definitely we're going to havesome fun here.
So a big thing is like whatreally got you started,
Katherine?
What got you doing what you doto be the person you are today?
What got you started?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, it's so intriguing because I've spent a
lot of time working with a lotof people throughout my life and
my journey just talking to themabout who I am as a person,
because people have always beenvery intrigued.
And it's really interestingbecause, you know, we all have
this story that we show up withand I know, as a mom and my kids
(03:05):
have always said, I can't waitto grow up, I can't wait to grow
up, and it's like wait a second, take a breath and just be
where you are in your momenttoday, because your childhood is
just a short window of timecompared to your adulthood,
right?
So with my childhood, it'sreally an unconventional
childhood in the sense that atthree years old, my mother locks
(03:30):
, you know, me and my littlebrother up in a closet and the
closet shelf had fallen on topof our heads and, of course,
this induced trauma for us andwe, of course, retain this
trauma in our bodies whenever wego through trauma.
We hold on to this informationon a cellular level, which is
why we can remember a lot ofthings that happen that are
(03:52):
really bad, and that experienceopened up this gateway of a lot
of trauma Literally every kindof abuse that a human could
experience.
I had experienced, and at fiveyears old I had this beautiful
experience of witnessing myguardian angel and during that
(04:17):
time it really shifted my gearsbecause it allowed me to see
things differently.
But when my parents wentthrough their divorce, we went
to go live with my grandparentsand that experience also made a
huge shift in my mindset.
So it's interesting becausewhen we go through our journeys,
(04:40):
you know we're looking for thissense of where do we have this
peace or this joy within our ownbeing?
And when I lived with mygrandparents they had this
monster house.
I mean, we had a library in thenorth end of the house, we had
a library in the south end ofthe house, we had a prep kitchen
(05:01):
, an eating kitchen.
We sat at a dining room tablenightly that seated 12.
And all of that, said, it wasreally interesting because you
know, we were literally to beseen and not heard.
And I know through my walk I'veheard a lot of people say, well
, yeah, you know, I had thatkind of upbringing too, but the
(05:22):
difference was was thatliterally, you know, I was in
that house specifically just toeat, and then I was outside, and
then I was in that housespecifically to go to sleep.
And then I was.
You know it was either eatingor sleeping and the rest of it
was like pretty much off limits,and if it was winter, summer,
(05:44):
spring, fall, it didn't matter.
You know, you were expected tobe outside and the weather was
really, really bad.
Then you were given permissionto play down in the basement.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Wow, there's no love, there's no caring, there's no
interaction, there's no.
This is what life's all about.
There's no tools given, there'snothing for you to really guide
you through your journey.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Exactly, exactly.
So, yeah, so you know the fewtoys that we had.
It was actually my, you know,my aunt's toys or my dad's toys
that we discovered like in thehouse and those few things that
were left over from theirchildhood was really all that we
(06:32):
had.
My mother, you know, was gone,so she was out of my life and it
was interesting because,literally, you know, the story
that was fed to us was that youknow your dad's working a lot or
whatever.
So there was a lot ofabandonment, as you stated, a
lot of abuse, and the only timethat there was this sense of
(06:54):
freedom as a child was when youwere outside and actually
exploring the woods.
So I used to remember the storyof Hansel and Gretel and you
know the two little kids, thelittle boy and the little girl
and they're, you know, going onthe path and they're leaving
their little trail ofbreadcrumbs.
(07:15):
And it was really interestingbecause I can remember,
specifically as a little girl,just making that decision, like
I'm going to go into the woods.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's great.
So from such a young age,you're connected with a higher
power if you will, with MotherNature, to really that was your
guidance.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And Mother Nature was such a powerful force in my
life because, as the seasonschanged, I was able to witness
you know this literally like thejourney of life how we go
through our seasons as humanbeings.
And I was able to witness somuch about Mother Nature and so
(08:04):
in tune and aware of the birdsand the changes that would
happen within nature.
And you know, even with thelittle bunnies in the springtime
and you know, just coming outto feed on the morning grass and
the dew, there was just so muchbeauty and grace in Mother
Earth and no awarenesswhatsoever how much healing
(08:29):
properties were happening withinmy body as a little girl, just
being out in nature and justgrounding, you know that sense
of connecting with Mother Earthand all those healing properties
from grounding were just soastounding and so life changing
for me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
For sure.
And how would you so, from thestuff that you've gone through
this amazing journey thus far tobring you to this fast forward
a few years?
What have you learned throughthat process and how are you
using, I guess, some of thesetools to really guide you to
what you want to do and how youare now in the position you are
(09:08):
Like, how are we making thatconnection to really do what
you're doing?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, it's really intriguing because when you go
through a lot of abuse as asmall child and you're in your
formative years, you definitelyget a sense of this idea of your
physical safety right.
So like your physical being,whether or not it is protected,
whether or not you are, you knowin such a space that you're
(09:36):
okay.
And because I had that senseabout me and because I was sense
silenced right because I was tobe seen and not heard, it just
kind of heightened thatawareness of I had to be super
careful about how I showed up inthe world and what I offered
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and you know how I presentedmyself.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So it also put me in a space where I was constantly
assessing my environment, youknow, as I save and where was I
in the grand scheme of things.
And, interestingly enough, as Istarted to grow and as I
started to go through school andstart to be in the presence of
other people, there was thiscontinuous stream of
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consciousness that would come atme by other people just saying
how could you be so grounded,how could you?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
be so centered.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
How can you be so peaceful and?
you know, radiate what youradiate into the world.
And at the time it was reallykind of a struggle for me to
identify with where this wascoming from, because I thought
everybody had this ability orthis way to tap into their own
inner being and do this kind ofwork for themselves and trust
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their inner guidance that allhuman beings are wired with.
And when I had that aha momentthat the download of what most
people were downloaded withinformation was really provided
from what it was that they hadin their own environment,
whether it was the television,whether it was the projections
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of the adults, in their life,you know, sharing information
with them, or you know, toys ormaterialism, whatever it was
right.
They were programmed with thatinformation, whereas I had a
completely clean slate inregards to the programming, my
programming.
Yes, there was this trauma, butI knew at five years old that
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this trauma, this programmingwas already wrong.
And, having witnessed theguardian angel at five, she
already was showing me that Iwas not alone and just being in
a space of not being alone wasso comforting for me because I
always knew that I had somehigher power, some, you know,
protection around me and itreally did allow me to, you know
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, really feel secure that, eventhough things were not right in
my world like just having theawareness that it wasn't right
it changed the perception of howI went forward in my life as
well.
So as people started to come tome and really say, you know,
how can you be, you know who youare and how can you be in this
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space, they started to ask memore and more questions.
They started to ask me, theystarted to ask me how they could
attain what it was that I had.
And I, in the beginning, whenyou know, much, many years ago,
I always was intrigued by thatbecause I was like, but you have
this, you have this in your DNA, you have this as a human being
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.
So that ability to tap into ourwellness and that peacefulness
and that peaceful state issomething that I now help to
teach people and you know youasked me how we got here.
Like, literally, this wholeretreat to peace was just
created because the entire worldis in that state and the entire
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world needs the safe healingspace and, you know, tools
offered to them that they canimplement immediately to help
undo some of the trauma that ishappening and occurring in the
world that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That's amazing.
So I know a little bit of thestory, but let's talk to the
listeners on how retreat topeace came to be.
Like, how did that name come?
Because it's such a powerful,meaningful thing literally that
people really don't understandhow that came to be, and I think
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that'd be kind of cool for thelisteners to really kind of get
into it and take a bite out ofit.
So tell us how that came to be.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, so last September I literally woke up at
3.30 in the morning and wastold that I'm going to be
running retreat to peace, and Ihad no idea what that was.
I woke up in the morning and Iwas just so confused Like what
does this mean?
What is going on with this?
Yeah, it was just reallyinteresting and I had this
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amazing opportunity to travelout on the West Coast of the
United States and I was in thisnational park and had this
phenomenal experience where Iwas driving in the dark and it
was pitch black and we weregoing through this canyon and my
daughter and I literallycouldn't see but a few feet
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ahead of us with the high beamson the car and there was a wing
of a bird that took over theentire windshield of the car and
in a moment it was like, oh mygosh, what just happened?
And it was kind of I shouldn'tsay kind of it was frightening.
So my daughter and I were justlike, ok, this is pretty intense
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.
And after our screaming episodewe kind of calmed down and then
got our what just happened.
Yes, yes.
So we get through the group.
We get through this canyon atZion National Park and we're in
Springdale, utah.
I'm checking into a hotel andfor anybody who's never been to
Zion National Park, part of thepark experience is that you go
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through a mile and a third.
I think it is tunnel that goesthrough the mountain and at
night it is pretty intense.
So when I checked into thehotel, the woman at the desk
cast me about my drive in and Ihad shared with her a little bit
about how the intensity of thisdrive was not sharing, about
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this wing of the bird takingover the windshield, and she
said so are you going to theNational Park tomorrow?
And I said yes, and she said,well, if you're really lucky,
you'll get to see a Californiacondor.
And I think I just went threesheets of white because I had no
idea.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think I just met one firsthand.
Yes, yes.
I virtually high-fived.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yes.
So she says did you see one?
And I said I said I'm not sure,but this wing of a bird took
over the windshield of the car.
And she goes on to explain thatthe California condor is the
largest bird in North Americaand can have a minimum a 10-foot
wingspan.
And there was thisrevitalization or is this
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revitalization project forbringing back the condor that
was going extinct?
And I literally was stillpicking my job off the ground.
And she goes on to explain howamazing experience it says,
because this is actually goingto put a new spin on life and
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how things were just going tototally change.
So I knew this major momentneeded to be banked because it
was part of retreat to peace,but I didn't understand why.
So, as we fast forward throughthe holidays, I am back out on
the West Coast and I'm going,I'm in an airplane and this is
in January 2020.
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And, as a reminder for most ofyou, in January COVID-19 was in
Wuhan, china, and everything wasin lockdown.
So, as I am flying across thecountry, I'm reading a passage
in a book about the prophecy ofthe eagle and the condor.
It literally took my breathaway because, as I was reading
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it, it was just astounding howthis 2,000-year-old Native
American prophecy was predictingthat mankind literally would be
put into a place where hundredsand thousands of people around
the globe would lose their livesand it literally would take all
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of the eagles quote unquote ofthe world, which would be the
doctors, the nurses, thepharmacy, the scientists, like
all of these people and all ofthe condors of the world, which
be the mothers, the teachers,the healers, the lightworkers,
to literally build a bridge andto show this unity around the
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world where people are comingtogether to literally save lives
.
So when I read this I was justlike, oh my goodness, yeah,
because I knew in an instantthat COVID-19 was going to fly.
And it was going to beeverywhere and I also knew that
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that need to be banked with theCalifornia Contour.
So leading into February Iprayerfully just asked
frequently around the world whatis coming for the world.
And this beautiful, beautifulwhite piece of head presented
itself for two weeks around myhome.
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And it's unusual because whereI live we don't have white piece
of so for it to show upindividually by itself the way
that it did it was justastounding, like completely
astounding.
So I made sure I got my cameraout, called everybody I could
check this out, look into this.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What does this mean?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, for me it was justbeautiful because it really
offered a sense of manifestingthis state of peace that the
world needs for healing.
And again, I knew that was partof retreat to peace, but I
still didn't have a lot ofclarity around it.
So if we fast forward up tosummer, I literally was told OK,
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I want you to put a post askingfor speakers to just speak, and
that's it.
I didn't know what that meant,so I put that out in the morning
and I just walked away from itnot really understanding what
was going on yet.
But the next several meetingsthat I had throughout my day
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just changed me, because one Ihad a woman that was in Ireland
and she was explaining thattheir country, the way that they
were in lockdown, that it justfelt like this prison, like they
couldn't leave, they couldn'tdo anything, they needed
government approval.
And she said the only way Ifeel like I can get out of
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prison is if I were to die.
And I literally said, please,please, please, listen to what
I'm saying.
Part of trauma andpsychological trauma is all
these kinds of things that arehappening, whether it's grief or
the constant bombardment of thenegative messaging, the anger,
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all of these different things,and as I spoke to her about this
, it gave her a different lenson the world, which gave her
some more compassion for herfellow humans that she's with.
But then, as we talk through it, I also said to her everybody's
in a period of grief of somestage.
(21:24):
So whether you believe in thefive stages or the seven stages
of grief, there's a stage ofgrief that you are witnessing
playing out around the world inall varieties.
Now, without getting into allthose stages, the next part of
this, I mean for the next 36hours this woman continuously
(21:45):
reaches out and just thanks meprofusely from the bottom of her
heart because literally shesaid, you changed my life.
I literally wanted to die andyou put a different lens and
changed my life, my next meaningthat I had gone into.
I spoke with a woman.
This one's a little tough.
So I spoke with a woman and shewas sharing with me that she
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adopted a little girl.
The little girl is 10 years oldand she didn't know the
backstory of the little girl butas the way things have been
developing, the backstory wasthis little girl was part of the
human trafficking.
That really gut checked mebecause the level of abuse and
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for this little girl she wasactually locked in a cage and
she was part of that sextrafficking ring and human
trafficking and all of that andthat really gut checked me
because being a survivor of alllevels of abuse, including
sexual abuse, I can honestly saythat literally hit me to my
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core on such a deep, deep level.
So my next phone call I had witha friend, she was telling me
I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry Ican't really talk right now
because my sister is bringing mynephew who's 18, who was not
able to graduate high school ina traditional sense, to the
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hospital because he's suicidal.
And after these three meetingsit was abundantly clear to me
that retreat to peace was tocreate a safe healing space for
individuals to go to, to learnways that they can navigate
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through the darkness.
And my job was literally justto band an army of earth angels
to come together and create thisplatform to allow the world to
come to and heal and also offerwhatever I had to help in this
healing process, because mystory, as astounding as it is
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and life changing, it's just one, and that was the thing that
predominantly kept comingthrough is that your story is
one story.
We need a banding of a bunch ofstories to help the world heal.
But, there was another thingthat happened which was really
interesting.
So when I went back to my post,I had this amazing, crazy
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amount of people that hadresponded and as I started to
talk to them, one by one, theysaid I had no idea why I reached
out to you, I had no idea whatyou were doing, but something
was pulling me to be part ofthis project.
And every single person, theconnection that was made and
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literally around the globe,literally around the globe, the
connection that was made, and intheir life they had signs that
were showing up, that wereleading them to this project in
a different capacity.
So when you talk about thesynchronicity, when you talk
about the way things areorchestrated, I mean it is way
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bigger than us, way higher thanus, and just so amazingly
beautiful.
But here's what happened.
I am so overwhelmed by all ofthis that I go outside and I
just look up to the heavens andI just said I don't know why you
chose me.
And then I was like nope, nope,I retract that, I've got this,
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I'm gonna go, just all in, I'mgonna go.
And as I started walking down myroad to go see the sunset, my
neighbor was putting out histrash and I took a moment to
speak with him and we hadn'tseen each other for quite some
time.
But as we were talking, he saysI really feel like right now
we're in this place of goodversus evil.
(25:55):
And I said I understand whatyou're saying.
It does feel like that becausethe energies are so heavy around
the world, which is why thisproject is so necessary and so
needed right now.
But the interesting thing is wewere just talking high level
and he says to me he goes hey,you didn't happen to see that
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white piece of stuff that wasflying around the neighborhood
in February, did you?
And I was like what did youjust say?
And he says yes, he goes, I sawit.
And he said, and I told him, Isaid absolutely, I saw it.
And he said well, theinteresting thing about it was
when I saw it, it had two baldeagles flying with it.
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And I just started to crybecause I was like the prophecy
says the eagle and the condor isstanding together.
And I had the condor experience.
He saw the eagles.
It was just anotherconfirmation of this higher
power at work.
And that night, when I closed myeyes, I prayerfully just
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surrendered to this wholeproject.
And what came to me next was Iwas supposed to ask each one of
my guest speakers I mean, we sooften find signs that are
presented to us of people or avisit from someone that we knew
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that has passed on and that canbe in the form of seeing a red
cardinal or a bluebird or abutterfly, or finding a feather
on the ground and I was told askeach one of your guest speakers
If I were to find your earthangel feather on the ground,
what would your message to theworld be?
And when I started to sharethat with all of my speakers, it
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was astounding the reaction.
It was astounding the messagesand, as I've interviewed people
for this platform, I cannot eventell you how personally moving
it's been for me, because I'veliterally witnessed
transformations withinindividuals where they are
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channeling information from ahigher power.
And I'm not even saying thatlightly.
I mean it's been the mostbeautiful thing I think I've
ever been part of.
But that is the story ofRetreat to Peace in.
What a wild ride, an amazingride, and I still have no idea
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what's ahead or how it'sunfolding.
But I'm okay, I'm fullysurrendered and it's all great.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
We have some good ideas, though we have some
things that we know that we'reworking on, that we'll be
sharing.
So, with all that which I stilllike, I'm in awe with that
story because it's just.
It's so amazing how the starsalign, literally, and how
stories are put together and howshifts happen naturally and for
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a reason, and it's a powerfulreason that we're helping others
and serving others, at whateverlevel it may be.
We all have our space, that weare here to serve and help
others and, with all the stuffthat you've been going like, how
do you envision yourselfhelping your guests, your
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clients, your patients, whateverthat may be?
Like, how are you envisioningthat to really become Retreat to
Peace?
Like, how is that?
Like, to me it's gonna be ashift right into it, naturally,
but like, how do you see that?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It is a beautiful, amazing journey, right?
So life is a journey, and Ithink the thing that I recognize
more than anything is thatpeople want to resist change.
People want to resist theprocess of changing because
they've got so used toconforming, to being comfortable
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, that they're afraid to getuncomfortable.
And the beautiful part of beinguncomfortable is that that's
where you're growing right.
So that's something that rightnow, even though people are
looking at this time like this,is a you know, I've literally
heard people say 2020 is a lostyear, like it's just lost, and I
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hear that and I cringe becauseit's like, wait a second.
Like this is a beautiful spaceto cross over into another place
in time where you're going tobe completely different, right,
and for some people it's justcocooning right Like a butterfly
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, like you're metamorphosinginto something even more
beautiful, and for those peopleit's just going inward and doing
this self-work.
What COVID-19 has done is it'sforced people to go inward and
face the stuff that they don'twant to face about themselves,
because everything has beenquieted.
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And the interesting thing aboutRetreat to Peace is that no
offense to Hollywood, but peopleare tired of not having a quote
, unquote relatable platform inspace where other people can
really connect.
So that's what this space doesas well.
So, as we move forward, it'sthis Retreat to Peace platform
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is really to embrace thechanging part of you.
It really is to offer that safespace and provide tools that
will allow you to live yourauthentic life in the best
possible way that can be.
So For many people, like I said,it is just going inward.
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But then, when you go inward,it's like what do I do with this
discomfort?
What do I do with?
You know, I'm holding ontostuff that I don't know how to
release, I don't know how toforgive, I don't know how to
change something about myselfbecause I'm so uncomfortable.
Or maybe I've been manifestingdisease in my body because I
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have been putting in pure stuffinto myself, or maybe I have
been self-sabotaging my lifebecause of my mindset, like I'm
not consciously making myselfaware of how I'm self-sabotaging
myself, whether you know, likeI said, it's creating the
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disease because of the foodsyou're eating, or it's the
mindset and how you're goinginto your walk in your day to
day.
So this retreat to peace, it isthat space that gives you those
tools.
But the tools are graduated in asense, where I have written a
book that will be released intothe world, real soon, called a
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centerpiece, meaning centerwithin yourself and having that
peaceful state.
And this is a book that is aworkbook that you specifically
are going to create that healingtoolbox for yourself.
Because the one thing that Iknow is that my toolbox doesn't
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work for everybody.
Like, we all have our own stuff, so we all have our own toolbox
.
One size does not fit all, andthat's the point of this book is
that it is not supposed to.
It is supposed to bespecifically for you.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But that's also yeah, I want to stop you on that
because what we're dealing withright now just to emphasize on
what you just said, because Ithink it's super important for
people to understand that peoplewant 2020 to be done with
already.
To me, 2020 is the year oflessons and, as you were saying
is I always say life is a school, and when you say that, you
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bring what you just said to abigger light, because the past
six months, seven months, we'vereally had to look at ourselves
and understand ourselves better.
Our families More people thannot are outside now, walking
outside as families.
They do their daily family walk.
If it wasn't for COVID, thatwould have never happened.
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So they're starting to makethese healthy shifts in their
brain that, with the tools thatyou were just talking about,
they can actually startunlocking this higher power that
they have with insidethemselves.
So this book that you're writing, I think, is gonna be so
powerful for people, becausethey need just a little bit of
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direction, they need a littlebit of guidance, and so, with
this tool and guidance, how canpeople like, with the tools that
you're sharing, is there anyother ways that people can
utilize?
So you've also written anotherbook as well, so we should talk
about that as well.
So you've written a couple ofbooks.
She's being shy here, people.
She's being a little talk aboutit, so I'm pulling it out of
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her.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm very humble, can you tell?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But, jess, you have these amazing tools that people
need to really experience abetter life and a new life, and
these tools that you're havingand that you're sharing, these
are the tools that people needand want that they should have
in their house and every house.
So talk a little bit about yourmore than one book and how they
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can actually get this book,because it's gonna be so
powerful.
And then I have another thingthat I'm gonna trick you on at
the end.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Oh, so trickster, yeah, so a couple of things.
I think what really got megoing on writing my book to
begin with was this journey andthis journey that I've been on,
because what was reallyastounding throughout my life is
my mom walked me in this closetand then it ensued on this
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space where it was like a lot oftrauma and she was out of my
life and I really didn't havethat parental guidance.
So there was a lot ofabandonment and I didn't have
this parental guidance.
And it was interesting becauseas a little girl, it was like I
was always on this quest.
I'm always like littledetective, looking for the signs
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, looking for the clues, lookingfor something that she existed
or was there or something Likewhere did she go?
Like how did she just disappear?
Like all of these things.
And consistently throughout mylife, people are saying you need
to write your story, you needto write your story.
And it was like no, no, no, no,I don't wanna do it, I don't
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wanna do it.
And then, finally, it was likeoh okay I.
the calling was so intense andso powerful.
It was like, okay, I'm gonna doit.
So I finally did it.
I've not fully released all ofthis quite yet.
It's in process because I'mlistening to Spirit and the
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higher power and I'm going to bereleasing them.
Yeah yes, yes, so there is amethod to this and it's not mine
.
Like I said, I'm fullysurrendered, so, yeah, so this
was part of like, literally whenI finished writing that book
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and it's like over 300 pages andit's filled with a lot of stuff
and it's a riveting story, it'sa page turner and a lot of
questions, and by the time youget to the end, the few people
that have read it had just said,oh my goodness, like you know,
because they couldn't understandthe grace, the forgiveness, the
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intensity of all of this stuffand how I could give that to
other individuals who had donethis kind of thing.
But what's interesting too isthat not only did this guardian
angel show up for me, but atthree years old and I say this
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all the time for people thatdon't believe me, I'm sorry if
this makes you angry, but it isa fact that we are gifted our
experiences.
We are gifted our experiencesbecause we are supposed to learn
from them.
So the people that used to sayto me, like that's horrible,
that your mother locked you intoa closet, I would say you know
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what?
I can turn that inside out,because what I learned that
tender age of three was thatthat light under the doorway was
life sustaining and that lightwas the source of life.
Like when we come into thisworld, we go into the light and
when we leave this world, we gointo the light.
So that alone was just like ahuge, huge thing for me
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throughout my life, because withanything and I'm gonna repeat
this with anything that you'regoing through, your peace is in
the light.
So the more you operate fromthat light space, moving into
the light with love, withgratitude, with serenity, with
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forgiveness and again I'll saythat again the more you operate
in that light.
That's where you're going tofind a lot of healing.
That's where you're gonna finda lot of healing.
So the driving force was reallyto wrap my arms around as many
people as I could with thesebooks, and then that turned into
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okay, let's give them moretools by creating the courses,
which coursework is actuallygonna be available October 1st
of 2020.
So the coursework so let's givethem the courses that they can
actually go and do some of thisstuff, and the gift of living
with my grandparents.
That generation that was adepression era generation and
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they went through hell.
That's a fact.
They went through hell and Iremember my grandfather sitting
us down at one point and he said, quote, unquote, I'll never
forget it he goes during yourlifetime, during your children's
lifetime.
You are guaranteed toexperience something of
equivalence to what we wentthrough.
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And the reason being is becausepeople forget, people forget.
Oh true, and I was like, oh, mygoodness, now I would go say
this to people and people wouldbe like, ah, that's not gonna
happen, like nothing's gonnahappen, like that.
Okay, let's talk to them now.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You know Right.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, let's talk to them now.
So you know, here we are, and Ithink that too was a seed that
was planted for me, because itmade me recognize that I had
this unique awareness.
And a lot of people right noware really struggling with a lot
of anxiety because there's somuch in the future and the
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concern around that.
And then there was a lot ofpeople that are living in a
state of depression becausethey're living in the past.
They're living in that paststate that they used to be in
with their life.
And I was having a conversationover the weekend with a friend
and I was saying I think it's sointeresting that during the
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depression, a lot of women did alot of needlework, a ton of
needlework, right, and if youthink back, like there were
doilies and there were needlepointed chairs and pillows and
this and that and all of thisstuff, but what you don't
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realize is just that simple actof that needlework was forcing
them to be present, to be in thehere and now, and was probably
the best gift they could havegiven themselves in that space,
in the here and now.
So if there's any gift that youcan give yourself, like, do
something that is going to makeyou feel present and be in the
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here and now.
So there's so much.
I mean, we could keep on goingfor hours, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
And I think it's important for people to be in
the present, as you're saying,but in so many ways is put down
the electronics, let's, let'sspend time with our loved ones,
let's get outside.
And it's funny.
You and I were talking earlieron and it sounds cliche and
sounds weird.
But hug a tree, right, and it'sjust funny.
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It sounds the weirdest thingever, but you'd be surprised on
what happens in a silly moment,in the present moment, and how
grounding that is.
It's these small little toolsthat will help us get through
what we're going through andhelp others.
We need that ripple effect,right.
That's what this whole retreatto piece.
It's in a ripple effect ofpositivity, of love, gratitude,
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and that is what's gonna get usthrough this.
So you set a little snippet ofsomething that I just wanna
bring back to the forefront,because it's a big thing that's
happening.
That I think needs to be reallyput on the top of the billboard
is a lot of the tools thatyou're working on.
There's something that you'reworking on that's coming very
(43:46):
soon, that people will be ableto get these tools, and I've
heard a little bit from a coursethat you're working on.
Let's talk about this course.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, yeah.
So the coursework is going tobe a multi-tiered approach,
where you can go in and you canpick what will be in your budget
, will be in your, I guess,heart space, as far as what
talks to you, as far as workingon yourself and the things that
you need to help heal you andthose kinds of things.
(44:18):
It really does go into thisemotional space that you're in.
It goes into where are you inyour physical space, where are
you as a human, showing up withyour mind, body, soul right and
looking at the ways that you canuse natural tools?
(44:41):
Because you talked about thisability to hug a tree.
I am such a tree hugger andpeople know it.
I'm not afraid to tell you that.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It sounds weird and corny and silly, but it's gotta
be there, right?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, but honestly, the Japanese they call it forest
bathing.
It's actually calledshinrenyuku.
I probably said that wrong andI'm really sorry, but really it
is a practice of spending timein forested areas for enhancing
health, wellness and happiness,and it is a quietness that you
(45:23):
intentionally go into the forestand you heal right, and I was
practicing this forest bathingas a small child and had no idea
that that's how I was healingmy body.
But for a lot of people theydon't have the ability to go
into a forest, so what do theydo?
(45:44):
And that was something thewoman in Ireland that she had
talked about.
She was just like I don't havethat kind of ability in my space
.
So in this coursework there aremethods and ways that I teach
you that you can go into thisspace and do this healing work,
(46:05):
and part of it is let's justlook at a lot of different
things, like earlier I talkedabout.
What are you doing with yourbody?
Are you detoxing your body?
Are you exposed to elementsaround your environment that are
creating you to get sick?
A lot of people don't evenunderstand the impact of what
(46:27):
stress does to a body right orhow they're manifesting disease
within themselves because oftheir environment or because of
toxic whatever that may be thatword.
Toxic, that could be yourrelationships, that could be
what you're putting into yourbody, that could be what you're
(46:48):
putting into your brain.
That could be so many differentthings.
So let's look at some of that.
Let's look at ways to unwind itand, bigger than that, let's
look at the technique of healing, and I'm doing it and fixing it
.
So this is where we can adjustand shift and make a forward
(47:11):
movement.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's awesome, yeah.
So we're talking about youramazing, amazing course and how
people can go through yourcourse to help them with.
Obviously, it's emotional,physical and mental traumas that
we deal with in life, so youhave a lot of amazing tools that
you have to offer and share.
So, in this course that we'retalking about, will they be able
(47:35):
to go through this course andreally nail down what they're
trying to really self help?
Because that's really what it'sgoing to be right.
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So in this course, they're going to be able to go
through a lot of steps that aregoing to give them the toolbox
that they need to navigate lifein a very peaceful and tranquil
state, versus being in a statewhere maybe they're reliving
events that are creating selfsabotage whether that, like I
(48:04):
said earlier, that's introducingtoxins that they shouldn't be
introducing into their life overand over creating disease,
things like that.
And some of that's just mindset.
Some of that is just goingthrough the house literally and
redesigning your journey so thatit is a healthy journey versus
(48:25):
unhealthy journey, and a lot ofpeople don't even realize what
they're doing because they'velost the ability to go inward
within themselves and withintheir space, to recognize that
this is how they were programmed, this is what they know, this
is what they default to.
So to open their eyes tosomething else and then give
(48:47):
them the new lens, kind of likethe woman in Ireland when she
had a different lens it was likethat aha moment.
These are the aha moments andinstead of taking years and
years and years to figure it out, I've condensed it into moments
literally.
So let's bust through this inmoments versus trying to
(49:08):
redesign the process or what itlooks like and I know for a lot
of people forgiveness work is abig one because they're holding
onto that stress.
So I have a whole exercisethat's just specifically around
releasing some of that traumathat you may be holding onto and
doing that forgiveness work.
(49:29):
So that's just one example ofmany.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
That's amazing.
When you know what the magicword is, you know what the last
question is going to be is whendo you think it's gonna be
available?
When do you think your booksare gonna be out?
When do you think your courseis becoming?
You don't need to say an exactdate.
When do you think it's gonna beavailable for people to utilize
these tools, cause we need themnow more than ever?
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Like we need our hands on great, efficient,
effective tools that have beenproven to work.
Like when are they gonna beavailable?
When are they ready?
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah.
So October is the big, the biggo.
The beginning of October thecoursework is going to be live
it's already being built as wespeak.
And October, the first week ofOctober, that's when that's all
gonna be live and the book is inprocess to be published.
So October, both are going tobe open and available to all
(50:25):
audiences around the world andyou can access them through the
Retreat to Peace, throughDreamVision, you know, radio, or
DreamVision 7 Radio rather, oryou can even go to the website
for Retreat to Peace Facebookpage.
It'll be all accessible throughthose links and you, like I
said, you, can design what it isthat you wanna create for your
(50:47):
life.
As far as this coursework, asfar as doing that self-work,
nobody can do this for you.
That is the biggest, biggestthing.
How many times do you hear, youknow, somebody, frustrated with
someone else because they're notdoing their work or
participating in their journeyto do the work?
And I just love this analogywhere it's a little bit of a
(51:11):
story.
But you have a minor who's in amining field and they are
mining for gold and they keepdigging this tunnel, digging
this tunnel, digging this tunnel, and they get to a place where
they're like they just give up.
They just give up.
They take all the tools, theygive it, basically sell it at a
(51:32):
pawn shop back in the day,whatever that was, and literally
the person they sold all theirtools to that they spent a lot
of money literally like theirlife savings to get these tools.
The person they sold the toolsto takes the tools and goes back
into that hole, back into thattunnel, and starts mining.
(51:55):
And those people that soldtheir tools were literally three
feet from hitting gold right.
So your journey is alwayschanging.
Your journey is always going tochange until the day you die.
But are you going to continueto grow through your journey, is
the question.
(52:15):
So you can choose to use thetools to get to the gold and
continue to have the gold andreap the benefits of the gold,
or you can choose to just not dothe work and give up, and then
you'll also deal with thoseconsequences.
And this is where, like, thecoursework is so, so impactful
because, literally, you don'thave to live in this state of
(52:39):
pain.
You don't have to live in thisstate of discomfort and feeling
the way that you're feeling whenyou have tools that you can use
to just course correct and bein that state of abundance and
peace and really live in yourbest life.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
That's amazing.
I am so excited to get my handson this course.
I can't wait to share it.
So just to round it up how canpeople find you?
Where's the best place to get ahold of you?
How do you want people to get ahold of you?
Because I'm sure you have avery large lineup of people to
get a hold of.
(53:16):
So how do they reach out to you?
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah, so for anyone who is interested in reaching
out, please feel free to utilizethe website.
If you're interested in beingon the show again, utilize the
website.
There'll be a continuum as faras the connection with
DreamVision 7 Radio and thewebsite.
Also Facebook, instagram,twitter, I mean.
(53:41):
They're on all platforms, sojust reach out to all of that
and the coursework will beavailable as well.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Awesome, amazing.
Well, thanks for it.
This is fun.
We had a good little reverserole here.
That was kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
It was so much fun, so so much fun.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
So inspiring, so amazing.
You can help so many millionsof people.
I can't wait and thanks again,I appreciate.
Thank you for having me on yourshow to host you.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Well, scott, it has been so much fun to have you
interview me and I, you knowthere's a lot of people you
could do this with, but, likeyou being in Canada, me being in
the United States, and we havea special connection anyway,
because Scott and I have talkednumerous times and it's just,
you know, a natural kind ofgroove.
So it's been a joy, it's been ablast and I'm just very excited
(54:34):
to get this out, you know, toeveryone and I just thank you so
much, my friend.
But, yeah, and do you have aquestion for me?
Should you ask me the questionI always ask everybody, so what
was the question again?
If I were to pick up your earth,angel feather off the ground.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
But we know that already.
We know that.
Can we just hope you just heardyour entire story, with
everything we're doing?
We know that answer.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Well, you know, honestly, in a nutshell, if I
had to answer my own question,my answer would really be just
be light.
L-i-g-h-t.
Be light, Because when you'relight, you're living in love,
You're living in forgiveness andgenerosity and you're just in a
very peaceful place and there'sso much gratitude.
(55:27):
So just just radiate that lightand be light.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
That is beautiful, I love it.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
So thank you so much, though, for doing this with me.
It's been so much fun and, ofcourse, you know this has been a
unique episode that we puttogether today for the audience
and I hope you had as much funwith it as we did putting it
together for you, and I'm surein the future we'll be doing
some more of something like this, as we, you know, go through
(55:59):
the months, but also, you know,as always, look for Retreat to
Peace on the website, look atFacebook page, go to the radio
station, the coursework, thebook coming out everything will
be available there, and that'sall we have time for today.
I'd love to do this longer, butthat's all we've got for today.
So this is Catherine Danielsand Scott Manduck, and we're
(56:24):
happy to have you as part ofthis journey with Retreat to
Peace today.
So, as always, live your lifewith abundance and peace and
have your Retreat to Peace.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you, bye, thank you.
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