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September 21, 2025 57 mins

Among the uncomfortable sayings of Messiah Yeshua (Jesus Christ), one of the most difficult is this:

Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13)

We philosophize over what Yeshua meant until we see it in action. It can be said that we all saw a man lay down his life for his friends when Charlie Kirk was violently taken from this world on September 10, 2025. 

What does Charlie’s death mean? What can we learn from his life? Peter Wales of Brisbane, Australia, has thought much about that. In fact, he wrote a song about it – although he didn’t realize until after Charlie’s death that his song, “Strong and True,” speaks a message about Charlie’s legacy. 

Like so many other songs Peter has written, this one was based on a famous poem: “If” by Rudyard Kipling. In this conversation, Peter shares the inspiration for the song, his thoughts on Charlie Kirk’s global impact, and what it means for Jesus followers across the spectrum of  Christianity.

Be sure to listen to the entire program to hear “Strong and True” at the end.

To listen to “Strong and True – for Charlie and Erika Kirk” and to download the song, visit the Hitstax Rocks website at:

https://hitstax.com/strong-and-true-for-charlie-and-erika-kirk/.




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