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Grief does not follow a straight path, and when justice
feels just out of reach, the weight of loss only
gets heavier. For Crystal McRory Jones's family, the days after
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her day were not filled with clarity or closure. They
were filled with obstacles, many of them deliberate, some of
them cruel. In this episode, we will pick up where
we left off after a meeting with the sheriff that
left crystal siblings with more questions than answers, from denied
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access to her ashes, to public accusations of theft, to
a death certificate with a time that was never supposed
to exist, and an autopsy report that might make you
wonder if an autopsy was actually even conducted at all.
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This part of the story shows the painful reality of
what families are often forced to go through when the
system stops listening. You'll hear about the attempts to retrieve
Crystal's remains, how there was a fallout about her funeral
thund and and a tense phone call with the sheriff
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that doesn't really put any suspicions to rest, and with
every new twist, the truth feels just a little more buried.
But her family has not stopped digging, because Crystal deserves
better and they will not be silenced. We'll start by
refreshing ourselves about the twenty third of February twenty twenty three,
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and we'll go from there. Let's get started. February twenty third,
twenty twenty three. The same day, Crystal's family sat face
to face with Sheriff Scott Matthews, pleading for answers and
laying out some of the troubling details of her death
that they knew at the time. Her sister Jana made
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another important stop. She went to Cox's funeral home to
see if Crystal's ashes had been returned and to arrange
for her oldest son, Corbin, to be sent a portion
of his mother's remains. At twelve twenty six PM, Jenna
had texted Corbin to verify his address, letting him know
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that she was taking care of everything. She wanted to
make sure this one piece at least could be handled
with respect and dignity. But when she got to the
funeral home, what she was told left her stunned. Josh Lebron,
one of the workers at the funeral home, informed her
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that Tony Jones, Crystal's husband, had picked up all of
the cremated remains just about an hour earlier. Not only
had he taken them, but he also refused to allow
the ashes to be divided among their family. He wouldn't
even let the funeral home ship Corbin's portion to him
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in New York, despite the fact that the service would
have been complet deletely free of charge. According to Josh,
Tony insisted that he would mail the remains himself. Josh
told Jenna to reach out to Charles Evans, the staff
member who had spoken directly with Tony, so later that evening,
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at five seventeen PM, she sent Charles Evans a message quote, Hey,
mister Evans, this is Crystal's sister. I was just wondering
if you had a chance to speak to mister Jones
yet about her ashes. Mister Evans called her shortly after
and confirmed everything Jenna had already been told. He added
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that Tony was a longtime acquaintance, someone he had known
for years and who still did occasional handyman work at
his mother's home. He assured Jenna that because of this
quote unquote close friendship, he could convince Tony to retur
turn the ashes to the funeral home by the following Monday.
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That way they could be properly divided and respectfully mailed
to her son. Mister Evans even explained to Tony that
cremated remains had to be packaged a certain way, hoping
that might persuade him, but it wouldn't be that simple.
Just two days later, on February twenty fifth, things took
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a turn. A Facebook post was written by Tony's friend
Adrian Murray. It encouraged others to file claims against Janna,
implying financial wrongdoing. Tony Jones was tagged in the post
and it read quote If you have any questions, please
contact mister Jones. The implication was clear, and the damage
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was growing. That same day, text messages between Tony and
Crystal's brother Dane suggested that Tony still intended to return
the ashes to Cox's funeral home on Monday, but that
was before Tony found out that he would not be
receiving any money from the GoFundMe account that had been
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created to help cover Crystal's funeral costs. When he realized
that everything shifted that night, Tony publicly accused Jenna of
misusing the GoFundMe donations. He didn't just make vague suggestions,
he outright accused her of grand larceny. The same woman
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who just days before had spent her own time and
money making sure that Crystal was dressed, her hair was done,
her makeup was applied with care, and her ashes would
be shared with the people who loved her the most,
was now being dragged on social media by the very
man Christol had grown afraid of before her death. The
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same man who had taken the ashes refused to divide
them and brought another woman to view Crystal's body just
days after she died, and the other person making these
accusations Katrina Hendry, the very same woman the funeral director
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said should not have been brought to Crystal's viewing in
the first place. The grief, the confusion, and the weight
of everything Crystal's family had been through were now being
compounded by public attacks, lies, and yet another betrayal of trust.
And still they pressed on because they knew Crystal deserved better.
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Jana wrote her own Facebook post about the situation. I'm
going to read that post along with the Facebook comments.
Jana wrote, I've had several people text to ask me
why I blocked them on Facebook, so I felt the
need to log back into my account and post this status.
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It's long, but if you're in any way associated with
me as a friend, family, acquaintance, then please make sure
you take the time to read this. I will leave
my Facebook active for the rest of the day to
be sure everyone has an opportunity to see this post.
Then I will be deactivating it for an undetermined amount
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of time. It could be a week, two weeks, a month,
I don't know. If you want my cell phone number,
send me a private message, as my messenger will also
be deactivated too at the same time. This is for
my own mental well being. I thought seeing my sister
in that casket was going to be the worst part
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of my grieving process, but it wasn't. I'm angry, I'm
actually beyond angry, and for the sake of my children,
my career, and my family, my anger has to be
contained to those I trust the most. There are details
and things that will only come to light when they
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are supposed to. I knew my sister better than anyone.
I've been to those same dark places my sister tried
to desperately pull herself out of. People keep saying, quote,
I can't imagine the thoughts that were running through her mind.
Well I can. That's because I've been there, But I
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had a support system pulling hard against the devil to
be sure I came back. Please don't read this and
call my mama or my daddy and tell them that
you're worried about me doing something to myself, because that
is not the case, and that is not what the
status is about. This is about me making sure I
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through this angry part of grieving while still being able
to continue with my quote unquote normal life. This status
is about making sure my sister's death is not in Vain.
There are still a lot of questions I am waiting
for answers to and best believe I will get them.
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My sister deserved so much more than she got. Also,
at the wishes of myself and the rest of my family,
my sister will also have a burial plot and headstone
so that we will be able to visit her locally,
next to a person who was very dear to her.
The GoFundMe account is still open to help with those
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expenses as well. Donations can still be made directly to
Cox's Funeral Home to cover funeral expenses. Due to others
pocketing money and paying credit card bills that was given
to them for funeral expenses, our family has paid two
thousand towards funeral expenses, but others do not know that
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because I purposely posted them under quote anonymous for this
exact reason, all receipts were kept tony then posted to
everyone who still wants to help with funeral expenses, Please
send to Cox's Funeral Home directly and not to the
GoFundMe that was set up by her sister. It has
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come to my attention that the money is not going
to the funeral and instead it is going to a
headstone and plot, and that is not what was discussed
at the time arrangements were made. Thank you, Tony Jones.
Adrian Murray says, this is so unfortunate that I'm having
to post this. If you are someone who donated to
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the GoFundMe for Crystal Jones and hope that it would
go to the expense of the funeral that was held
on Saturday, February eighteenth, please know that your money is
not being used for that. What the sister is claiming
it's being used for was not what her and Tony discussed.
If you have any questions, please contact Tony. You can
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submit a claim about the misuse of your money by
clicking on this link. You will need the URL to
the fundraiser when submitting the claim, and then she posts
the URL to the GoFundMe. Jana posted a status with
the caption, I apologize there was some confusion with the
GoFundMe account, so please let me update my post from
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earlier to clear things up for everyone. With the screenshot
of Tony's post, her post and where he was selling
random equipment to bring more money in but he hadn't
put anything on Crystal's funeral. Under Jenna's post, someone named
Lindsey had wrote a comment. I'm not sure exactly what
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she said because I can't find that specific screenshot, but
this one, and Jenna is replying to Lindsey and said,
there's so much more to this story that has come
to life than I can even tell you, and a
little town of Oak right now, But when it's time,
you'll know. My sister was the brightest light wherever she went,
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and she made any person she was with shine as
bright as her. Please understand that I know the position
you are in and that you only know one side
of this story for now. Just please be open minded
and know that my sister and my nephews are my
utmost priority and are being very well taken care of.
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Do not always believe what you hear. I have to
remain silent right now, but please keep in touch with me,
and when the time is right, I hope that my
sister's friendship with you can live on through me. A
girl named Allison replied to that comment and said to Jenna,
there's more of that me, me, me. If you think
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anyone can look at the way you're handling this and
want to be friends just because they were friends with Crystal.
You're severely mistaken. Jenna replies to Alison and says, bless
your heart. Alison replies, I'm very blessed and mentally stable.
Someone named Kara responds to Alison and says, I'm so sorry,
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but what exactly do you hope to accomplish with these messages?
Some things are best thought and left unsaid. Let Jane
agrieve and put whatever grievances you may have aside. Janna
responds to Alison's comment and says, I do apologize, but
what name was your GoFundMe donation under? I can't find
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it under this name. Tony replied to Janna's post and said,
not sure what thousands of dollars you're talking about. There
was money that went to the funeral home directly, and
we did not discuss a plot or headstone, So if
y'all want that, y'all pay for it. The money was
described to be used for funeral services, not what y'all
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the family wants. Jana responded to Tony, can you send me receipts?
Tony responded, I'm not going back and forth with you
about this. Jana replied, that's all I needed to know.
Karen McRory mcgilton responded to Tony and said, the family just
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wants what is right for Crystal. Tony responds to her
and says, we have been her family for the last
six years, when a lot of her family wasn't there
for her. I have the receipt just so you know.
Jena responds, what do you define as quote being there
for her? And she asks him just one receipt. Karen
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responds to Tony and said, this is not a pissing contest, Tony,
it's just like as said, it's about what is best
for Crystal. Her ashes properly placed in an urn by
the funeral home, burying her with the headstone, or her
loved ones can visit her. Honestly, she would be absolutely
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ashamed of all this nonsense. Do what is right for
Crystal and her sons. Tony responds and says, Karen, I
didn't start the pissing contest, just so you know. This
is where an account JW and Katrina Henry pops up
and responds to Jana's original post, saying, we too are
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sorry for your loss and we loved Crystal. I think
what Lindsey was trying to say, is the people from
our community that gave to the GoFundMe account didn't know
you or the rest of your family. Everyone here knew Tony,
Crystal and their immediate family, as in their children. So
these people gave thinking the money would pay off the
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funeral home and help with expenses for Tony and the
kids because that's who they knew. Again, Crystal would light
up a room when she walked in, and everyone loved her.
Jana responded, were you the one Tony took to view
my sister's body prior to the services. Katrina responds and says, yes, ma'am,
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I was. Tony and my husband are very close friends.
My husband was in Texas working and he asked me
if I could drive him, and I did what any
friend of Crystal, Tony, Mason, Schey, Anne, or Corbyn. Yes, Corbyn,
we have taken him tubing in our ski boat would do.
I loved Crystal. Note she spelled Corbin cor b i N.
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Jenna responds, it's Corbyn, cor b y n, not Corbyn.
Katrina responds and says, sorry for my misspelling. Janna replied
there were several male pastures available that would have taken him.
Maybe we were just raised different, but it just isn't
a good look. Katrina then posts a separate comment outside
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of that thread under the same post that says anyone
who has given to the GoFundMe can request a refund.
Karen responded, they are fully aware of that everything has
gone towards Crystal's expenses. Then JW of the JW and
Katrina Hendry account responded to Janna, let me tell you something.
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I'm her husband and I know exactly where my wife is.
You can go fuck yourself, you bitch. People like you
are taking up air for good people to breathe. Now
fuck off. We help everybody. I don't give two shits
who talks about me, but I draw the line at
my wife. If you have anything else to say, you
can call me. Karen replies to JW, saying, woe they're hoss.
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That's enough. In that same thread, someone named Alice and
responded to one of Jana's comments, saying that you're handling
everything the exact opposite way she would, and I can
only imagine how disappointed she is right now. Jana replied
to Allison, asking anything else you'd like to say? JW
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then responds to Karen and says, you can kiss my ass. Hoss,
you fucking with the wrong one. None of y'all know
me or my wife. I'll let you know when it's enough.
Y'all done opened a can of worms. Karen responds, you
are forgetting what this is all about. Crystal. I'm done
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the JW and Katrina Henry account replies to Karen, saying
this is Katrina and I one hundred percent agree. I
think a lot of this post is out of hand.
It's my husband's job to have my back. Maybe it
was a little harsh, but he reacted as anyone would
when someone is insinuating things that aren't true. I'm done
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here as well. I would also like to say I
went and picked him up in my vehicle because he
wasn't sure if he would be up to driving back
after seeing her, so he didn't take me. I would
like to clarify that Jenna. After Katrina said she was done,
she kept on by replying to Karen again saying it
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was about Crystal until it was changed to accusing someone
of doing something they weren't. My original post was not
ugly or out of the way. It became that way
after she insinuated things and my husband got upset. I
am done with this. If you read my original post,
you can see that someone named Kesha responded to the
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JW and Katrina Henry account saying, y'all had no business
even coming on her page. Go say something on your own.
That's what you get for sharing a page with your
old man. Jenna posted a comment and said, the bottom
line is there's two sides to every story. One is
backed by words and gossip. The other is backed by
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facts and evidence, which is now in the hands of
appropriate people. My family and I have receipts of every
dime spent from this GoFundMe account, as well as cash
payments made directly to me, and the rest will stay
there until others produced receipts of what the money they
told us in the meeting that they had already been
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given was spent on. If this needs to get lawyers involved,
then that's exactly what we will do. I'm asking for
receipts to prove that others who agreed to pay their
part have been keeping their word. If those cannot be provided,
then we shall do what we have to. My sister's
death will not be in vain. The JW and Katrina
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Henry account responded to Jana's comment, saying, your story don't count.
Shit you dream up does count. If you think I
care you mad, that'll be a note. Someone named Lee
responded to the JW and Katrina Henry account, saying, I
care that Jana knows. I'm mad for her and Crystal's sake.
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I would want someone to stick up for my little sister.
I'm biting my tongue. You should try it. JW responds
to Lee and says her insinuating that my wife is
sleeping with Tony is okay, though you should mind your business.
This is tragic enough without her making up crap about
someone she doesn't even know. She was totally out of line,
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so I can be too. I have the utmost respect
for anyone until I have been disrespected. That's the bottom line.
I won't post on this again. There are four groups
that was together regularly, and I don't recall any of
y'all there or was even mentioned. I guess we're not
allowed to console our friends in their time of need.
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I'm done with this bullshit it. Kathy responds to Lee's
comment and says, you are one hundred percent correct because
you have known her for much longer than most Here
Crystal Wood with grace and sas tell everyone to back
off her sister right now. The JW and Katrina Henry
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account posted screenshots of the gofundme's FAQ of how to
request a refund and the go fundme giving guarantee. Katrina
or JW Hendry said, this is why I do not
give money to anything like GoFundMe. People can say one
thing and do another. Sorry ass people make it bad
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for everyone. I'll give directly to the person or the
account it's going to. Allison responds and says also note
that everything is supposedly going to the funeral home, but
she literally said she was spending some of the money
to ship memorabilia. That's not funeral exs expenses. That's personal
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payment at the expense of others, arranged by a liar.
I hope everybody gets their refund and puts it back
into the funeral home directly. Then the JW and Katrina
Henry account post another comment saying this is grand larceny
in Louisiana. I've done looked it up. If you don't
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use it for what it's intended to and this is
what it's supposed to be for black and White, which
looks to be edited from the original. Kesha responds to
the JW and Katrina Henry account saying, oh, now you're
the police. Someone named Bill responds to JW or Katrina
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and says, so how much did you donate? Another comment
is posted by the JW and Katrina Henry account saying
for everyone who's wondering who's posting most of this on here,
it's JW Hendry and not Katrina. All of our real
life friends, noah and know how we are. Jenna responds,
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I do apologize, but what name was your donation on
the go fund me under? I couldn't find it. I
really like this comment that someone named Amanda posted on
the original post of Jana's, which says, don't let this
bother you. The people who know you know and if
they didn't want to give to the go fundme, they
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shouldn't have. They could have sent it to the funeral home.
They knew who was over it from the jump, so
they need to get the hell over it. As long
as it goes to her in whatever way, or her kids,
it shouldn't matter where it goes anyway. Praying for you
and if you need me, I'm here. Love you big.
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Someone else's comment says to me, you and your family
have done everything right. I totally understand that y'all wanted
her to have a place that she could be at peace,
plus a headstone. To me, that is part of a funeral.
I love y'all. Jena posts a comment and says I
have already contacted GoFundMe. Anyone can do as they wish,
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or mister Jones can send anyone who would like a
refund to Cox's funeral home so they can take away
from this amount where this initial payment was made when
the first one thousand dollars was transferred to my account,
or they may go to Flower Tree and ask her
for a refund as well. This should cover all of
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those in Oak Grove who donated through the GoFundMe account.
There are other positive comments that are being posted saying
that they're sorry she's having to deal with all of
this and they're proud of her, and they know that
Crystal would be proud of her too. So that was
all of the Facebook drama. I think Jena handled it
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really well, as most people were arguing back and forth.
She wasn't chiming in very much at all, and she
was day really composed only posting facts or legitimate questions.
On February twenty seventh, twenty twenty three, just when Crystal's
family thought the situation couldn't feel more callous, it did.
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The family had one simple wish to bury part of
Crystal's ashes, to have a place they could go to
grieve and to feel close to her. A headstone had
already been purchased, using funds from the GoFundMe donated by
friends and family for that very purpose, but Tony had
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other plans. That day, he sent a text to Cristal's
brother Dane, making it painfully clear that he would not
be returning any of Crystal's remains to the funeral home.
Not only that, he stated that none of Crystal's family
would be receiving any of her ashes, not her three siblings,
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not her mother. The only people he would allow to
receive them were Crystal's two sons, and he would be
the one to control that. Just sixteen days after his
wife's death was ruled a suicide, Tony made a cruel
jab that minimized the entire situation. In a message, he wrote, quote, man,
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all I can say is I already know y'all have
mental problems. You all need to get some help. The
irony was heavy. A woman had died under deeply suspicious circumstances,
a death that Tony himself had spread as a suicide,
and yet he saw it fit to mock the very
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concept of mental health. When Crystal's family dared to ask
for dignity and truth, it was a moment that stung,
not just because of what he said, but because it
showed how he thinks. Between fabb Quary twenty sixth and
twenty seventh, Jana found herself facing another kind of resistance
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from the very system that claimed to be helping. After
they met with Sheriff Scott Matthews just three days earlier,
she reached back out to him to ask for copies
of the documents she had turned over during that meeting.
She had misplaced her own originals. Possibly her family member,
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who sat quietly in the meeting and is from Germany,
accidentally grabbed them up with her luggage. But her luggage
was currently stuck in London. Jana simply needed replacements. At first,
Sheriff Matthews was cooperative. He apologized for the delay and
agreed to fax the documents to her. Jana explained she
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was at work and gave him a fax number one
that was shared by others, and she let him know
that she would be leaving at three pm. She kindly
asked that nothing be sent after that time to avoid
anyone else seeing sensitive materials. Hours passed, nothing came. When
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she followed up, the tone was completely different. The sheriff
told her that he would no longer be faxing the documents.
If she wanted them, she would need to come pick
them up in person. No explanation, no more apologies, and
when Jana asked gently if something was wrong, he simply
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did not reply. It left her confused, uncomfortable, and unsure
of what she had done to cause his tone to
change so much. She was just trying to get back
copies of her own sister's case documents, the very one
she had entrusted to the sheriff in the first place,
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But once again doors were quietly closing. That same day,
February twenty, Chief Investigator Alan Rby from the West Carrol
Sheriff's Department emailed an electronic copy of Krystal's autopsy report
to Dane. At first glance, it was a major step forward,
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but once they began reading through the report, concerned turned
into disbelief. There were mistakes, serious ones. On all six
pages of the report, Crystal's first name was misspelled. The
autopsy spelling has its h r y st Al, when
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the correct spelling is cry st Al. Page three listed
her hair as blondish brown, soiled with blood, but Crystal's
hair was dark dark brown, nearly black. Her eye color
listed as hazel, her eyes were very deep brown. On
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page five, the report stated that her vagina, cervix, uterus,
fallopian tubes, and ovaries were quote unquote unremarkable, but Crystal
had undergone several major surgeries earlier, including the removal of
her ovaries. She did not have all of the organs
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listed in the report. Page six noted no signs of
old fractures in her spine, yet in twenty eleven, Crystal
had been in a devastating car accident in Shreveport. She
suffered a broken back, sternum, and multiple ribs, injuries that
left her with lifelong pain and trauma. Photos of the
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wreck and her own social media posts confirmed this. So
how could the autopsy fail to reflect even a trace
of that. These weren't small clerical errors. They were details
that cut straight to the core of her, her identity,
her medical history, her lived experience. The person described in
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that autopsy report didn't sound like Crystal at all. For
her family, it was another blow in a series of
failures that kept piling up proof that the systems in
place were not just brushing past the truth, but actively
misrepresenting it. February twenty seventh, twenty twenty three, at eleven
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oh five am, just days after being assured the ashes
would be returned to the funeral home so they could
be respectfully divided among Crystal's loved ones, Jana reached out again.
This time she texted Josh, the funeral homeworker who had
first explained that Tony had taken all of Crystal's remains.
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Jana asked if there had been any word yet from
Tony about bringing those ashes back. Josh replied, quote, I'm
off today, but I did speak with Charles. According to him,
mister Jones said that he had plans to mail the
remains to both boys instead of bringing them in to us.
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Jenna followed up, quote, so he did tell Charles he's
not bringing them back to the funeral home. Josh confirmed correct,
and with that the door was shut. Cristel's mother, her siblings,
and the rest of her grieving family would not have
the opportunity to receive any of her ashes. Tony had
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taken control of the last tangible piece of Crystal's presence,
and he was keeping it that way. It was cruel,
it was unnecessary, and above all, it was heartbreaking. March first,
twenty twenty three, still trying to maintain some line of communication,
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Jana sent a quiet, respectful message to Sheriff Scott Matthews.
She apologized, worried that maybe she had come across as
impatient when she followed up about the documents earlier that week.
She didn't want to offend, She just wanted to understand
what was happening, but the sheriff didn't respond. March third,
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Jana tried again, asking simply if there had been any
updates on the documents she provided, or on any part
of the investigation. This time, Sheriff Matthews did reply, but
not with the reassurance he had once promised. He told
her that she would have to come in person to
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speak with him about any updates. This directly contradicted what
he had just said eight days earlier during their meeting,
where he had looked her in the eye and said, quote,
do not hesitate to call me with any questions that
you may have. Do not call anyone else. You can
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call me directly. Once me and my guys go over this,
if we discover anything, I'll call you immediately. But now
he was backtracking, and Jena knew what that meant. It
was clear the sheriff was not going to keep his word.
Jena's brother, Dane, encouraged her to respond with something that
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might finally close the loop without exposing them to further manipulation.
She composed a final message, quote, I'm sorry that I've
been aggravating you about these documents. My brother's attorney and
the private investigators they have retained have been analyzing the
laptop that the documents were printed from, but my brother
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has received the documents in question. Once again, I apologize
for any inconvenience. However, in reality, no one in the
Fai family had hired an attorney or retained a private
investigator at that point in time, but they felt they
had to say it then because it seemed like the
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sheriff was trying to lure Jenna back to Oak Grove
under the guise of sharing new findings, findings that obviously
did not align with anything they'd talked about in that meeting.
They believed this message would bring the back and forth
to an end. They hoped that was the last time
they'd need to text or call anyone from the West
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Carrol Sheriff's Department, But it wasn't. March twelfth, at nine
fourteen pm, weeks after Crystal's death, Tony sent Jenna a
text that felt less like a message and more like
a warning. Attached was a screenshot of a conversation the
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two of them had shared shortly after Crystal died, before
Jenna had found the laptop, before she had uncovered the
trail of emails and location history that pointed to something
other than a suicide. In that early exchange, she had
simply asked Tony about the remaining funeral balance. It was
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an understandable question, a human one, a family member trying
to do right by her sister. So why was he
sending it now? Jana's reply was short and clear, quote
why are you sending me this? Tony's answer that it
was an accident, But the next day an email arrived
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in Jena's inbox that made that accident feel far more calculated.
GoFundMe contacted Jana. The fundraiser she had started for Crystal's
funeral and memorial expenses was now under formal investigation. Someone
had reported her for a lely misusing the funds. It
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wasn't hard to guess who. From March thirteenth to the sixteenth,
Jana went back and forth with a representative from GoFundMe
safety team named Evan. She had to prove where every
dollar had gone, itemizing receipts, submitting documentation, and showing a
clear paper trail of how the funds had been used.
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And she could do that easily because the truth was
this Tony Jones had not spent a single dime on
Crystal's funeral, not on the service, not on the preparations,
not on her clothing, makeup, or burial. He didn't help.
He didn't show up to see her when she was
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finally ready. He didn't care what they did with her body,
as long as it was cheap. Everything had been taken
care of by Jana and Julie. Every effort every payment,
every late night phone call, in every exhausting hour at
the funeral home. It had been them. It had always
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been them. The most telling line in one of the
go fund me emails read quote, if you are not
directly responsible for the memorial expenses, please send the full
name and email address of the person who is so
we can assist you in delivering the funds to them.
But the funds were already in the right hands. Jenna
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had been the one shouldering the weight. All she had
done was try to make sure Crystal was given a
proper goodbye. On March sixteenth, the investigation came to a close.
Gofund me informed Jenna that all of the documentations she
had submitted was sufficient. The allegations were false. There had
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been no misuse of the money. They advised her to
post one final update on the fundraiser and then close it.
She followed their instructions and made the final post public,
but that didn't stop the damage. Six weeks later, April
twenty eighth, twenty twenty three, the Facebook posts and comments
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accusing Jena of stealing over thirty seven hundred dollars and
committing Graham larceny were still visible for anyone to see,
no retractions, no apologies, no accountability. That same day, Jenna
filled out the paperwork to order a copy of Crystal's
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death certificate. It was a small step forward, one of
many in a journey that still felt far from over.
But it was also a reminder, even after being vindicated,
the lies still lingered, and the people telling them were
not even finished. After weeks of dead ends, delays, and
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dismissive applies, Jenna finally received Crystal's death certificate, the official
time of death eleven AM, a detail they had been
waiting on, and one that aligned almost exactly with the
moment Tony passed by their home. So Jenna reached out
again to Sheriff Matthews, just hoping for a conversation. In
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the phone call you're about to hear, the sheriff makes
it clear he believes Tony is not capable of murder.
But as you listen, ask yourself, why did the sheriff
seem so unfamiliar with the documents he'd already been given
nearly a month before. Why did he deny the legitimacy
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of a time of death issued by the very parish
he represents? Why is a timeline filled with irregular movement
and contradicting Tony's own story dismissed so quickly. And how
can someone be labeled a chronic liar by law enforcement
yet still be trusted without question about how his wife died?
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You'll hear Jenna questioned, calmly and respectfully. You'll hear the
sheriff grow more defensive, raising his voice, interrupting and dismissing
every concern she brought forward, even though they were rooted
in real documentation and inconsistencies. By the end of their conversation,
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Jena was no closer to the truth, but she was
even more certain of one thing. Crystal's death was not
treated with the care and seriousness it deserved. Take a
listen for yourself.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Hey, Chrev Matthews, Hey, how you doing to Oh? Fighting allergies?
How are you?
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Oh fine?
Speaker 5 (43:56):
I just come in the house.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
I've been outside the viny yard working a little bit, and.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Just come in and checking my messages and what have you,
and just.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
Gets settled out with Eve.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
So I think the last conversation.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
We had was that you were coming to get those documents,
and I've had this information since then, and I guess
I had been I guess somewhat waiting on you to.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
Come by and I can have this discussion with you.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
But two of the main most things that we talked about.
One was the storage building in Tennessee or the address.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
That's for the storage building that Tony has.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
That that's where he makes his payment too.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
He actually said that the crystal they had bought that
I don't know a few months back. Maybe I'm not
sure of the day, but that's what she had been
storing some of her things. I guess you'd say, whatever.
So that's where he makes the payment on that storage building.
Is that Tennessee address, And if you look at it,
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there's and again don't quote me on this because it's
been however long it's been since you've been in my
office two.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
Months, so this is not fresh on my mind.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
But if you look at that there there's like forty
some my payments.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yeah, it was like forty eight payments. It kind of
confused me because it just said, you know, I had one,
so just maybe thinks that was the first payment.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
So that's the deal with that.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
There's no storage unit in Tennessee anywhere.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
That's where the payment goes for the storage building that
they have on site at his house.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
The other issue was the Hawaii thing.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
The rental car.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah, I think that's a straight up spam message.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
Got email message that.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
And here's here's how I'm going to relay that. Chief
Fdrby has.
Speaker 7 (45:56):
Got like six email addresses.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
I have multiple addresses myself, and I went and pulled
those old email addresses up.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
That I have it checked in years, and so did
the talent And there's I'm not going to say the
same exact email, but there's very similar emails that.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Have been sent that says, hey, you you.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Have a trip plan or we need a confirmation on
your There is no Hawaii trip. Right, They're plain and simple.
I just I don't mind coming out to there is
no Hawaii trip unless you're telling me that he's currently.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
In Hawaii or gsual leave next week. There is no
Hawaii trip.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Okay, I don't again this It has been two months
since I looked at.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
This, so refresh my memory on any of the other
things that.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
You brought me in the only other thing was contacting
the ex wife about.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
There is no outstanding.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
And again, please don't quote me on this because I'm
not I'm not looking at this file. I'm I'm standing
in my kitchen here and and uh that there is.
Speaker 7 (47:14):
No issue with Okay.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
And again, when I go into the office in the
morning and refresh myself with that particular issue.
Speaker 7 (47:23):
I'll certainly give you a call.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
But I don't want to say anything that that's going
to be out of line here because I don't remember.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
I just remember that Alan talked.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
To and you guys had told me that there was
a I think, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
We were had the issue just because we didn't know
that there were a couple of cases where he had
been found guilty of and it just never went anything.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
No, that is not the case. That that is not
the case.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
He is he has never been charged with anything.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
He's never been he has never been investigated.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
By and and the other issue was the just the
timeline where he was whenever she passed away, and I
think that was the main thing.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
So and again I'm not looking at this, so just
bear with me.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
I'm trying to go off of memory here.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Is that he did some work at Forrest School that day.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Well, first she went to Bastrup, Okay, and then he
drove past their house and he actually drove to the
Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
I can't I can't say whether that's okay.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
I don't know why would he have come to my
office to do that.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I have no idea. That's just what the address that
was penned on his location, the timeline location it says
work and it was three oh five whatever Main Street
or East whatever that is. Like I said, I mean,
if you want to take a look tomorrow and just
call me like that was just the main thing was
the and so you.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Know, having it and again he could have very easily
come by the office.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
But that also brings up the other issue where you.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
Questioned whether he was parked at some storage buildings for
for a great length of time. Well, those storage buildings
are right beside to call it the karate school, right,
That's that's why he was. It showed his vehicle there
there there was then spitting distance of the karate school.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
They're right there, right.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
But this is just like his phone is pinging, they're
not necessarily his vehicle. He told us he was at
Forest High School all day and so you know, the
the difference in the timeline that was on his work
pinged his phone, you know, a sonic at Walmart. He
didn't make it to Forest High School till around noon,
So that's just I guess that was our main concern
was after you know, we had to pay for the
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death certificate, he didn't turn one over to us, and
you know, the time of death was the time that
he was passing by their house.
Speaker 7 (49:52):
And I'm not there is no time of death.
Speaker 6 (49:55):
There's that And if you if you're looking at a
death certificate this kind of time and death on it,
there there is.
Speaker 7 (50:02):
Absolutely no way.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
That anybody could put an exact time of death on it.
I'm I don't care who they are, and I don't
mind telling you that.
Speaker 5 (50:14):
That's that is uh, there is that.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Certainly there's no way that they could they could make
a determination.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Tell me what time is on on the on the
statific eleven o'clock and and who would have put eleven
o'clock on?
Speaker 7 (50:30):
Who put that on it?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
I just ordered it off the VITA check through the
through the state.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
What I'm saying is is who who?
Speaker 7 (50:37):
Who signed off?
Speaker 3 (50:38):
And they said that, uh, West Carroll had to have
done the the time.
Speaker 7 (50:42):
Of death West Carols and who.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
The coroner's office.
Speaker 7 (50:47):
Absolutely false, absolutely false.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
There is absolutely no way that any human being on.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
This earth could say that she died at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
And and listen, I don't I hate to even speak
in this tone of voice, but y'all, you you're asking
me here, and I'm and I'm just telling you, point blank, okay,
there's absolutely no way that anybody within reason could say
that she died at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I'm just telling you what I got in the mil dawy.
I mean, I could send you a picture of it.
Speaker 6 (51:17):
It's just I don't I don't need.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
I don't need any of that.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
I'm I'm just I'm just saying there's absolutely no way.
And if you go line up ten professionals that are
in this same business, all ten of them are going
to tell you there's no way within a reasonable amount
of time that somebody.
Speaker 7 (51:37):
Could say she died at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5 (51:39):
It could have been ten o'clock, it could have been
one o'clock.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
So a two hour variance in y'all's mind is a
big deal, right, Am.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
I right or wrong?
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (51:51):
I mean, I completely agree with that without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (51:53):
So to be able to say that she died it's
straight up eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
And to compare that to yeah, a phone pay that
that is.
Speaker 7 (52:04):
That's ludicrous. I mean.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
And and you y'all you you you told me y'all
had an attorney in a private eye.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Well, that's that's my brother. Like I said, I just
I told you, that's totally different. That's why I asked
you to call me away from family, because he's approaching
it a way different way than I am.
Speaker 7 (52:22):
I mean, well, and so if he's gone to the
length to do.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
That, hey, and I couldn't tell you anything else about because,
like I said, I had to distance myself from my
own Santurday. I mean, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
So but but again, if I were looking at that
de certificate, then it's set eleven o'clock, right, My first question.
Speaker 7 (52:48):
Would would be, let me determined to determine that kind
of you determine that.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
I'm gonna go grab it real quick. Let me see
who it's I just want to see who it's signed by.
Hang on, I'm not completely crazy. I mean just a second, shriff.
Speaker 7 (53:04):
Matthews, listen, I'm you.
Speaker 5 (53:10):
You just send that to me later.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
I finally put my hands on it at this a
time like that is an estimation.
Speaker 6 (53:20):
And you feel free to call the corner or the
or the h or even the pathologist.
Speaker 7 (53:26):
Uh and and pose that question to them.
Speaker 6 (53:29):
How how can you determine a call the time of death?
And at this that is a purely speculated estimation. Okay.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
But to be able to to say, Okay, she died
at eleven, but his phone pinged a bachelor up at twelve,
or whatever.
Speaker 7 (53:48):
The case may be. Yes, sir ma'am, that that's you.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
You're digging there, you're you're digging. And and again.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
I don't even want to be using the tone of voice,
but but this has been put on my lap, and
I've got to okay, I want to be as perfectly
honest with you as I possibly can be.
Speaker 5 (54:10):
And the things that y'all.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
Have brought forward to me are not valid and they're
irrelevant to this case, okay, And I don't.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Mind digging into anything that you bring me. I'm just
saying what you have brought forward to me, the emails
and the and the Tennessee thing that this is. It
has absolute no bearing on this case whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
I understand. This certificate was signed by Devin George.
Speaker 6 (54:39):
Never heard of him, Okay, never heard of it?
Speaker 7 (54:45):
Is?
Speaker 4 (54:45):
That is it?
Speaker 7 (54:46):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Says state registrar.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Okay, that's that's going to be somebody with the state
that has received and signed.
Speaker 7 (54:54):
Off on that death certificate.
Speaker 5 (54:56):
That that's not anybody with my office.
Speaker 4 (54:58):
That's not anybody to with the corner. That's gonna be
a clerk somewhere in a in a office that has
received that report and has stamped it has been the
official whatever.
Speaker 6 (55:12):
YadA YadA, Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
It was another point I was gonna make here, but
I'm but I'm completely lost.
Speaker 6 (55:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
It says the certifire was Lewis.
Speaker 7 (55:21):
Carter, Lewis Corner. Carter is the corner.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
Lewis Carter does not establish a time of death. Lewis
Carter does not establish a cause of death. Okay, those
are all things that the pathologists, uh and and and
the doctor that does the autopsy does and uh again,
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a time of death is purely an estimation. So so
let me let me put it in.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
Perspective like this, I had a body been inside of
home for three days.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
Do you think to take established a time of death.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
That's way beyond my two degrees? For sure?
Speaker 7 (56:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
The answer to that is non, So, the same principle
applies to this case. Within reason, you could say, okay,
maybe it was eleven, but it could have been one,
or it could have been nine, or it could have
been two. There's absolutely no way without a witness to
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witnessing that. There's absolutely no way that you could say
it was eleven o'clock.
Speaker 7 (56:39):
There's not.
Speaker 4 (56:41):
Okay, So again, and I'll try to answer any question
that you may have.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
Please don't misunderstand me here. I'm just saying that these
things that y'all had brought forward have no have no
validity to them as far as what has happened in
this case.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
I understand. I mean, like I said, it's just things,
you know, different stories that he told. I mean, just
even between us it I guess it just didn't sit well.
And like I said, that's why me and my brother
had distance ourselves. We were getting told two different stories,
you know, just by him, and it just didn't make sense.
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So he's doing whatever he's doing. And I just, I mean,
just like I told you in that office, I just
want answers. Even if it's answers I don't want to hear.
I just want them, that's all.
Speaker 7 (57:34):
And again that's uh.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
When I say I hate to be talking in this
tone of boy, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 7 (57:41):
I'm giving you the answers, right, and.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
I don't mind right, and I don't mind hearing them,
like I don't know the.
Speaker 4 (57:47):
Same thing with the lady that you brought that day,
and she was trying to tell me that the that
the entrance room wound was.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
On the opposite side of what lady.
Speaker 5 (57:59):
You're you're a professional lady, How can you even.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
I completely understand. And like I said, I told you
from the beginning, if their answers, I don't want. I
still want them because I mean, I just I need
to hear them. And you know.
Speaker 7 (58:16):
And we talked about this.
Speaker 5 (58:18):
What was Tony the perfect husband?
Speaker 7 (58:20):
Absolutely? You know, absolutely not right?
Speaker 5 (58:23):
He he He obviously had his faults.
Speaker 7 (58:26):
He obviously y'all do.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
There were things that went on in that household that
y'all didn't agree with. I can't do anything about that.
Was is Tony a murderer?
Speaker 7 (58:38):
He absolutely is not right.
Speaker 6 (58:41):
He did not.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
Murder your sister.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
The evidence that that was at the scene is very.
Speaker 7 (58:51):
Is one consistent with the results.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
Of everything that we have in hand, and I can
promise you if there was any deviation from the evidence
that was at the scene versus the evidence from the pathologist.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
And I could promise you.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
If there was any deviation from that, I would be
all in Tony's ass.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
And I believe you like like I said, you've said,
it is.
Speaker 7 (59:20):
Not that the you know.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
When you're looking at a timeline.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Okay, Okay, So it's home pain.
Speaker 5 (59:29):
Did did three or five of these Main Street when.
Speaker 7 (59:32):
He said he was at Forest? Does that make him
a killer?
Speaker 6 (59:37):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (59:41):
Maybe did he get confused?
Speaker 3 (59:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (59:43):
Maybe I don't know. I cannot answer that.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
All I can answer is what I saw at that
scene and what has been laid in front of me,
right and as a reasonable person, that is the inclusion.
Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
I'm very comfortable.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
I'm I'm one hundred and ten percent comfortable with this.
I'm not I don't have any doubt whatsoever. That's how strongly.
Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
I feel about this.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Okay, yes, sir, do I.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Know that you're still breathing absolute God.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Oh, without I mean without a doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I mean, that's absolutely And it's gonna be a long
long time, sweety before you come.
Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
To terms with with a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
But it's just just please trust me when I when I.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Tell you, yes, I mean, and that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
There's there's no foul play here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Okay, yes, sir, Like I said, I think that was all.
Has anything come back with topes of cology as far
as anything that shouldn't have been in her system that
she would have taken, or anything she had.
Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Whatever the normal medication was that she was on.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Okay, So uh, there was nothing out of the ordinary.
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Perfect no, no, And I say this end quote. There
was no date rape drug, there was no marijuana, there
was no there was absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.
Okay to say that she was on anything other than
the normal things that she took on a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And to be honest with you, I don't even know
if that makes me feel better or worse, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
I mean, and I wish I had right psotology report
in front of it.
Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
I'd read it to you verbatim.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I mean, you can, like, if you get at free
moment tomorrow, anytime this week, I mean, shoot me a
test and I could step outside from work or whatever.
And it's not like anything that needs to be rushed.
I don't I mean, I don't mind.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
But again because sheep every nine. We talked about it,
and we went over it together.
Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
There was nothing in.
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
There whatsoever, Okay, that was outside of the normal scope
of what her medication was.
Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Absolutely nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Uh no alcohol, no, no barbit wits, no, no fentanyl. No,
I mean absolutely nothing that was there.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Good, Okay. I think that was the only thing I
was I don't even know if I was worried about
if I ever wanted the answer to it. Like I said,
I don't know which way to be happy about that
she did or she didn't.
Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
No, I understand, I do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I do well. I appreciate you calling me very welcome.
Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
And very welcome and and and please don't have you know,
if you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to
call and ask.
Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
And again I please, I have to apologize for being
so blunt on everything that I've told you, But I
feel that strongly.
Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
About this case that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
There's there's absolutely nothing there that that would lead me
to believe there was.
Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Any foul play in this case whatsoever?
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Yes, sir, Like I said, any answer is an answer,
and answer I take that good? All right, Shanon, rise,
We'll have a good night.
Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Even then I'll talk to you son.
Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Yes, every week, were talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
It, even in death. Crystal's voice is being drowned out
by silence, by indifference, and by people who seem more
committed to protecting their own than protecting the truth. But
her family has not stopped fighting. They're following the documents,
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the data, and the inconsistencies, no matter how hard it gets.
What we've seen so far is just part of the picture.
And if these three episodes have proven anything, it's that
too many people would rather her story be forgotten and
details that matter be swept under the rug. But that's
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not going to happen. Part four will pick up right
where we left off, with more of the time, the evidence,
and the moments that still don't make sense. The fight
for Crystal is far from over. Please check the show
notes for mine and Jenna's socials to connect with us.
There's also a petition you can sign in support of
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reopening Crystal's investigation. Until next time, friends, stay safe and
take care.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Thank you for listening to this episode. As we close out,
let us not forget. Awareness is our greatest defense in
a world that can be dark and grim. Vigilance is
our beacon of hope when it comes to the cases
we have explored together that have remained unsolved. If you
happen to hold a piece of the puzzle, dare to
step forward. As author Lois McMaster bouge Hold once said,
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the dead cannot cry out for justice. It is a
duty of the living to do so for them until
we reconvene, my friends, stay vigilant and stay informed.