April 28, 2025 • 64 mins
The search for answers continues, and there is never a lack of inconsistencies, like errors in official documents, misleading statements from those in power, and more evidence that raises even more questions. Crystal’s sister, Jana, and her brother, Dane, go head-on against a system seemingly damned and determined to silence the truth. How many mistakes can be overlooked or pushed aside as nothingburgers before they stop looking like mistakes at all?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello, and welcome to Revery True Crime. I'm your host page.
In Part four of Crystal Story, we're about to learn
how important it is to be persistent right in the
face of silence and passivity, to not back down when
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loud contradiction spew from the mouths of those in power. Also,
more findings continue to paint a very different picture than
the one Crystal's family had been told. Through public records,
meetings and a lot of time spent going through all
the evidence, what you're about to hear will give you
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a better understanding of not just what happened to Crystal,
but how far some are willing to go to stick
to one story, to seemingly be loyal to the sheriff
over investigating to find out the truth, no matter what
that might be, to give no valid counterpoints with even
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a little proof to back it, in order to seriously
dispute or disprove the family's findings and questions. So, without
further ado, let's get started. March twenty second, twenty twenty,
it had been one full month since Tony Jones took
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Crystal's ashes from the funeral home, a month of silence,
of evasion, of denying her mother, her siblings, and her
family any real chance to formally mourn her, which is
torture that anyone with a heart would never put another
person through. But finally, that morning, at eight thirty one,
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Tony walked into the Oak Grove Post Office and mailed
what he claimed to be Crystal's cremated remains to her
oldest son, Corbin, in New York. He decided to do
this days after he learned that the GoFundMe accusations that
he started had been dismissed, and when he knew he
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wouldn't be getting any money from the fundraiser. Not until
then did he follow through with what was simply the
decent thing to do. From the beginning, Corbin had texted
Tony weeks earlier on March seventh, asking when he should
expect his mom's ashes, but it wasn't until fifteen days
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later that the package was sent. It was painfully obvious
that if Corbin hadn't reached out, Tony likely wouldn't have
mailed anything at all. That same day, Crystal's sister Janna
got a call from investigator Daniel Grissom with the Louisiana
State Police. During their conversation, they talked about Jenna's recent
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phone call with Sheriff Matthews, the one where he insisted
that a coroner never determines time of death and denied
the validity of Crystal's death certificate. Grissom listened, then shared
that while he wasn't an expert in death certificates, his
brother in law dealt with them every single day, and
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when he releaed laid what Matthews had said, his brother
in law was appalled. Appalled by the sheriff's dismissiveness, Appalled
by the misinformation. Jana sent Grissom the full recording of
her conversation with Matthews, but after that she never heard
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from him again. March twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, Corbin
received the package. It arrived in an old, bent and
damaged brown box, nothing like what should have carried the
remains of someone's mother. He sent pictures to his uncle
Dane right away. The shock was immediate. There were no
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documents inside, no identification, no chain of custody, nothing to
confirm whose ashes those even are. Just an urn, loosely
sealed and inside a small amount of acas, maybe a
quarter of what Corbin should have gotten. When the family
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got in touch with the crematory, they were told that
at least four different forms of documentation would have originally
been included when Tony picked up Crystal's remains from the
funeral home. These are meant to stay with any portion
of the ashes, so that if divided, each set could
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be clearly tied to Crystal. But none of that was
in Corbin's mangled box. The packaging itself was careless, thrown
together like it held nothing of importance. There was no
special handling label, no indication that what was inside was
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human remains. It was treated like a damaged appliance or
a return from eBay. There was a shipping insurance policy.
On it, but only up to one hundred dollars as
of Crystal's life and what remained of it could be
assigned a dollar amount. The family contacted the US Postal
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Inspection Service right away. An open investigation is now under
way because Tony did not follow protocol, He did not
tell the post office what he was mailing, and he
ignored federal regulations for transporting human remains across state lines.
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But more than that, he treated Crystal's ashes like they
meant nothing. And for her family, who had already lost
so much, that kind of carelessness and callousness cut deeper
than words ever could. On March twenty ninth, twenty twenty three,
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Crystal McRory Jones's siblings Jana and Dane sat down for
a meeting with District Attorneyerny Penny Doucier and DA investigator
Victor Smith. They came armed with questions, evidence, and emotional wounds.
From the beginning, the tension was so noticeable. I am
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going to insert that meeting here and after I'll give
a summary so I don't give away any spoilers for
those who would like to listen for themselves.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Just come to open the store. Him Joe, Jim, you
have to sit right here and let me stoy y'all.
Excuse the masks, dere Have I talked to you on
the phone. I think you talked to me.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I was trying to get a touchwoods Chriff Matthews before
and we had the numbers.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
We've never fased on your book.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, yes, you want to start, but just tell me
what your specific questions are or do.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You want to just start by reading to me?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Well, we've read the preliminary we'd really like to see
I see all topics is the uh toxicology findings.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
It should be attached to that, you know.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
Yeah, we've got this.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So you they had the preliminary. H this is the
all top super prit so, I remember what you mean
about preliminary.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
This is the final autops super okay, Well the d okay.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
This is done by doctor prit Right.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
We were on a depression that they were waiting on,
uh the toxicology. You come back from the lab to
you know, to show what drugs were in her system,
cause she had a bunch of medications that she was prescribed.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
It should have been in her system.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, it's printed it out. And I was saying y'all
had not seen it.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Okay, let me see.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I have you to make sure that's what I looked at.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
My mom was on the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
If you have you ever done? Have you said you
wanted to see a police report?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yes, ma'am turning away, we can get another copy of
the taking point.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I really I wrote you. I'm just ink your babble
cause you're literally not supposed to have it.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Kay, Okay, this says the website.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What you okay?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
The chrief said they recovered the slow The police report
says that he wasn't recovered.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I think they recovered the slug from the dead. I
don't know that they recover the case.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Uh the showcasing was found a week later by the husband.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I don't think that that was Okay.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
You say you can't give us a copy of this.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
M don't care?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Why what is it?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Okay? Well, we have right here, mister syar, we have.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
We have some serious concerns, says mister Johnson's timeline was
tracked from eight a m. In the morning when he
left his residence and did not return to the residence
till being informed of his watch death.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
We have cell phone records that put him at the scene. Uh,
the chef says, these things are relevant to the investigation.
Mind you tell me what. Let me let me ask you.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Video surveillance footage running came of the system self on
location records that put him at the scene. Time of
death is determined by a corner on an official state
death certificate.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Can I tell you how the time of death he's putting.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I've talked to a corner. My wife is a nurse
correct tentionner. She talks to doctors every day.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
She talks to a corner every other day when she
has to have people admitted for suicide watch.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
We talked to a corner. We know Houston time.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
They don't. They don't have an exact time.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Of the state death certificate lists eleven a m. We
have cell phone records putting him there. So my sister
had started tracking his movements a week prior to her
death on a work laptop. We have his movements for
the whole day cell phone locations. That police report is
hot garbage. Is Tony John's. That sheriff stamp Tony Johnes'
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is narrative? Okay, we have inmiscible in court.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Evidence that that timeline is is trash.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What difference does that? First of all, the timeline I there.
We're not gonna have an exact time of death for
any death. Okay, anybody tells you something different, they're long. Okay,
we did they have the last known contact?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
And do they have the time of when the body
is discovered? And then they have the body?
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Tis well? We have cell phone location records for his
activity for.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The whole day. Yeah, so what is that crime?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Like the prince? He was at the scene.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Okay, but you don't know when she died. That's good, okay, Rank.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You don't wanna see the fighters? Nah?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
We got fighters about it. Come on, John, that's.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Good, thank you. Do you wanna see the photos? Please?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Alright?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
What's up the door? How you gonna pull 'em up
a little lot of times?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
And then you tell me which one you want to
look at?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
All? Right?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
To let me have the scene.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't want you to see some or she wants.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
I mean, I'll be in the parking lot, Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Can I finish reading the rest of that report?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Which one in miss?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Interesting? So y'all have seen the picture of the crime
saving by those I have none, And I did not
want him to see them either jam this nice Jesus system.
This is my investigator.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I'm sorry, let's too serial. Let my motions get the
best of me. I apologize.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's okay. So you said you've seen the pictures. I'm
just wondering what pictures you've seen. No, no, no, we
have not seen anything.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
We haven't seen any any of from the scene. We
took several photos of the body at the funeral home,
the funeral advisors, but director advised us, hey, you know,
this is the guy who's seen a lot of bodies.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
He said, there's some things that are concerning.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
There were a lot of signs of struggle on the
body that we took photos of.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Well, there was no injuries noted at all.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Right, Like I said, we have photographic evidence of abrasions
and laceration on left form, missing fingernail. Fingernails were freshly
manicured and painted, yet there were dirt and debris present
under fingernails with both hands, multiple bruises on legs, and
there were not.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Multiple bruises on her legs. There was some markings of
where she had been laying. I mean, yes, her nails
are nicely done, but even if you get your nails done.
I'm sure any woman can tell you it takes about
fifteen minutes to go out and pick up a pot.
So how do I scroll?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You just roll it with your mouse.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
But I don't want it yet. I don't want to
see any of this stuff out.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Do you want to see it?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can see them, I don't want him to see them.
So I don't know what broken far nails that that
nail does.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Look to be broken, but you know that can happen.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I don't see that as being signs of struggle. And
this gives you just a little bit better idea of exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
How she was laying on the bed. There were very
few at the seat, and.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'll show you something that they told me that the
bullet was stove piped.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I don't love that shine going there's halfway back.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And what the corner has explained to me is that
a lot of times women people really firm grip on
a gun, and that's just what or anybody that doesn't
have a relief will frequently.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
So you see the position that she's laying in.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Now, these are the markings that I'm assuming they're saying
is bruising, but.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's from where she's laying on her on her side.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's lividity, so that there's no bruising home there. And
that's the last one on that that is from the
west Carol corner.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So how do I go back to what it mean?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
How do I go back to where it doesn't have
any pictures? Nor come back in here for that?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
As long as that doesn't have pictures, Let's.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Print this and then just don't switch back to any pictures. Now,
I'm gonna print.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
This so you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So just sit. No, he had to come back in
I will come back to us.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
See I don't see any bruising. I don't know what
the pope k mean, what the funeral guy could be
talking about? Keep going now what he's showing it. I
think if you saw that an autopsy.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Guy is where he's putting it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Back so you can see the tearing that the autopsy describes.
Now if you go back to the tox support, let's
try one more time. There was another picture that I
wanted to show the headboard. That's the tox report if
you want to try to print it again. Okay, so
this shows what it tends to pass it for Alcoa's along.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That side in the summer or something like it is.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So you see that's what the bullet went through the headboard.
Have you probably saw it? Well, I don't know if
you ever went to the house. No, I've not been
to the house afterwards. I know the setup of the
bed and everything, but they have just removed the mattress.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yes, and it's a very level shot.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
It's yeah. I did our makeup at before the funerals.
It was it was temple to temple.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Okay, absolutely all.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So no more pictures, No more pictures because he knows
I was gonna let him look at this.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
You know that he knows what she was on.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Hey Dan, Yeah, come morning.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Here's the talks. Uh, the tough pyramids. That's tough. A match,
that's uh.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Okay, we're looking for apra Era proposal is abdulify.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, prisum. That's a ant.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
It's a depressant.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean it's yeah, white.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Value that X Okay, caffeine, we're not worried about that.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Also, and that was five one presume positive.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
No, look, let me sure he is this.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Presume positives for the caffeine.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Okay, okay, it's.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Not is im positive?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It is positive for the for the other time, okay,
and I'm really not supposed to let you write all
these down.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
So what are you looking for?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
What are you wanting?
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Because I mean narrative that has been who put forth
by Tony Jones is that she was off of Abilify
and that's what made her kind of go nutty and
do this to herself. She was on a five milliground
dose of Abilify, which I said, my wife's nurse practitioner.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
She's a present and now, but what is the scientific one?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
A R I P I P R A z O
l E arab pic resole.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay, you can look at this, but right what I
would prefer is if you have somebody who understands this
and wants to look at it, then they can make
a request to the lab.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
I guess right.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't mind you looking at it if you're looking
for something specific. Okay.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
I didn't see any of the abilifiers, and that's really
what I was looking at. Used to see her. Once again,
I apologize for me an emotional.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You're upset, and I don't blame you.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
It just seems to me that these things, with the
sheriff would have seen these things, is relevant to the investigation.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
He's told us they are irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Listen to me. I think the sheriff did a very
thorough job. He has chased down a lot of things
that y'all have found suspicious. He believes that this is
a After talking to y'all, I was like, Wow, something's
going on. But after I read this police report and
saw this autopsy, I have no doubt in my mind
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that this is a self inflicted wound. So I don't
know what else.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I don't know exactly what you could be.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, here's the thing, because I was attending to explain earlier,
my sister, almost a week to the day before her death,
started tracking Tony Jones's cell phone locations and his activities.
She knew that something was up. They had Chriot School.
Let me abut track a little bit. They had Karai
School there and no growth right. Enrollment had started to
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plummet at the Karate school. Parents were pulling their children
out of that Karate school left and right because of it.
So my sister started tracking his movements. She found We've
got a lot of other things and I'm not gonna
bring up here. They're very, very suspicious. But she was
getting ready to leave him or have him locked up
because she worn't around town. Has started getting around town.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
But hey, he's.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
The evidence we have that has been turned over to
the state police. They have seen fit to open investigation
based on the evidence we've given them about his.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Problem.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
That's why my sister's dead. She was getting ready to
leave him or have him locked up.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Okay, So the state police are investigating that into things,
and my private investigator has been conducting interviews with members
of the community who's said, I reckon, that's right there
in job description private.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But but I mean, I assume he's gonna call me.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
So I was just wondering, Well, we've been instructed that
you we need to see the lead from the sheriff,
which we didn't get.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
We need to go chank coman.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I'm an army better and I respect the chank Comman,
and you are the last stop before we go to
the courts.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Well, I assume you've contacted a private attorney, and that's
a good thing to do. I'm just saying that I
don't know your sister, don't know this man. I don't
know anything.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
He's a buffoon.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The sheriff.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
We can't get a straight hands from the chef if
he still watch for the Sheriff's Department or not.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
He doesn't.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Okay, well he's still on their website, he's still got.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
An auxiliary deputy.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
We can't get a straight hands from anybody if he's
ett employed by the Sheriff's department.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
As far as him being a deputy that I see
that turns in reports, would you say he's a buffoon?
He is, and I don't doubt it. If you were
suggesting that he's able to stage this crime scene and
able to mimic the path of this bullet, he would
have to be brilliant.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
You would just have to be a little bit bigger
than her what she was, and there was I guarantee
that a struggle over that weapon, as that the injuries
on her body dictate. Okay, well, well that'll be a
forer jury to decide a civil Yeah, that's exactly fine, and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I think you should do that if you If you
feel that way, you should go to a private attorney.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
In time.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I've consulted with a few. My wife's side of the
family's full of lawyers.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, is there anything else I can answer for you?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Well, I mean we have evidence that discredits the police report.
You say the police report is credible, So I guess
we're done.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I think the police report is credible.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Okay, we're going to do efcerate it in court. Well,
I'm just letting you know as a courtesy.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
It won't have anything to do with me.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Good, it won't have anything.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
To do with I'm sure your ethics are impeccable here,
I'm not. I'm not attacking your ethics and whatsoever. You're
where you are because the people if your parish elected
you to your position, and I'm sure your ethics are impecable,
and I know you have to stand by you're long term.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yes, I do stand alone are obviously.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Your ethics are probably impacted. When I'm not attacking your others.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, I think that we're not gonna be able
to get anywhere.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I I wish you all the best.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
If you have an attorney that wants to contact me,
I don't mind talking to them. Okay, and.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Hope I've answered your questions.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, thanks, Matt, extent that I could do.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
You have any questions, jam.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
My only concern is one changing it from a suicide
to a homicide. That's gonna be hard to prove. My
only concern is where was he when that happened? And
that were you on the phone with or when it happened,
or did you stop by the house when that happened,
cause you've called her help?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Uh well, obviously her death was immediate, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
But were you on the phone with her? And did
you hear a gun shot? And were you gonna ow
an argument like on the phone? W you know, got
into an argument over whatever and you heard that gun shot?
Because the reports I gave Sheriff Matthews that he's had
since February twenty third, is Tony's your own drove straight
from Bachelor to the Sheriff's department that day, and that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
If he was on the phone with her, that's not
a crime. It is, But why you know, and he
heard a shot? Why would he not?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Why would he say he's been trying all day to
get in touch with her. That's my only concern, and
you know that's a civil case. My only other concern
is can we please spell her name right?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
How do you spell her? Ny?
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I mean he would have to how do what is it?
God doesn't have the age?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Does not have an age? And and that's probably bothering
me more than anything. It's it's all civil against Tony
right now.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And they had issues.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
My sister had issues, Tony had issues, but he drove
past that house and I asked, you have Matthews for
phone records? You wanted to, you know, to narrow down
that time of death, because of course, you know, corner
does the time of death, right.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Unless you actually have a video of it, or we
have some how do your surveillance from a store camera
or anything, we don't. Well, they had a ring camera
at their house, which I'm.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Working on legally obtaining that footage.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Rug from the rank.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But the corner determines time of death. My sister's phone
records would say who did she talk to last? When
did her phone stop being active? That's gonna narrow it
down because she stayed on the phone twenty four to seven.
And that's not something they would even have to subpoena.
Tony wouldn't have to call a ten and ten and
get this, just print them off, not yet, just hers,
And that would narrow down to time of death to
say who was the last person she talked to? Okay,
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that was it down. It takes away about eleven am.
Something as simple as that, just to give us a
little bit of peace.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I don't think you're ever going to get satisfied by
anything that we tell you. I think you need to
go to the civil route. Well, without a doubt, yeah, yeah,
without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
The sheriff is just lied, I mean just repeatedly lie
after a lie, after a lie, after a lie.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
It started out as Tony Jones was it Forest High School?
Working all day?
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Once we handed o her cell phone records to the shiff, well,
well we knew, we knew who was in bass up.
You know, they want to backtrack and reverse engineer. I'm
surprised that they didn't even change it into that report.
If all a Foyer for that report as well. But
he's done nothing but lie to us. And I don't
understand why I worry as an engineering consultant and my
job's fat finding dat a collection. Well, she's working on
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her doctorate. The sheriff talks to us like we're Backwood's hicks.
He thinks we're stupid. We're not stupid people, mister here.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I don't think that you're stupid, but I do think
two things.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
One, you want to look.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
At this and so as an engineering problem, it's not
because crimes are not like that. They're very complicated in
a different way than an engineering problem would be. And two,
I think at this point you're not going to believe
anything that he says. I think that there's just been
a breakdown. But my job is to look at it
from a gentleman, from an objective thing, which I have done.
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When I look at this autopsy, it doesn't look it's
very obvious to me that it is a self inflicted wound.
And I have been doing I haven't seen as many
dead bodies as maybe your sister or your wife or whoever.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But I look at a lot of autopsies.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I talk to a lot of these officers who worked
a lot of cases over thirty four years. Doctor Peretti
does the autopsies for robably fifty of every homicide in
the state of Louisiana and in Arkansas.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Right, And I trust what.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He says that this.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Listen, you're aware that he's operating under multiple sanctions from
the Arkansas Medical Boarder.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
All pathologists because of what they do, are constantly being investigative.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
He is under sanctions for numerous ethical violations.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Well, what I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
We'll leave that alone right now, that's not your problem.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Well, why would Sheriff Matthews get so angry at me
over obtaining a death certificate?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Livid because here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Death certificates go to certain people, the next of kin,
and unfortunately you are not.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Now I think you, Mike, can ask for the death
certificate from the state. I did, Sheriff, No, I did.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I went through vital records because we had five copies
from the funeral home. Of course, Tony was next to Ken.
So I went through vital records to the State of
Louisiana and I ordered my own for my myself and
my mom and for him, you know, just one copy.
And when I got it in, you know, I just
detacked Chiff Matthews and I asked for him to to
give me a call. And when I did and he
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found out I had my own copy, he called me
a liar and and said that he asked who signed
off on the death certificate and he.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And when I told him, you know that it was
Lewis Carter with uh west Carol, he uh l. I'm
not exaggerating this.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
He became the same I rate same way I'm talking
to you now, is how I talked to everyone, because
I just try to keep my calm. He became irate
with me and said that he did not understand what
my family was uh attempting to do.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Basically said, I just had forged a death certificate. I
I don't know, Okay, well, but I.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Do know this.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Maybe you know w we want shot a house?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I really do. I do, I do. And I think
your sister was murdered. I think that you think your
brother in law and he sounds like a complete track ass.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I think you think he was maybe doing some other.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Stuff, but I don't see any evidence that he murdered
her sister. Now, he may have been cold, and maybe
do I think not. Based on this, common sense will
tell you that your brother in law knew that this
was probably waiting on him, because that's why he had
Chuck Harris go.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Now, he checked his daughter out of school at two
point thirty so she wouldn't rock the bus on and
find the body. Yeah, we know all those things.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
That doesn't mean we've got an official police report that
is not taking into account self phone location records, that
we've got a sheriff who refuses to even try to
get the videos revouance. Tony Jones told me that the
video of the ring video had not been working for
a month. We've uncovered emails that went to my sister's
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account that state the ring camera video system was updated
on January of the thirtieth, So the ring camera system
was not only was up and running, it had just
been updated.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Maybe he didn't pull the trigger, but he was directed.
He responsible for her death. And I know, from the
sheriff's standpoint and from the DA's standpoint, just because I
may frustrate somebody, or disappoint somebody, or cheat on whatever
I've done, that does not make me understand. And that's
what the sheriff's office role is in this. That's what
my rolling is. If you feel that he contributed to
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her death because of his behavior, you go to a
civil attorney and they can sue him for that.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
But why did he go straight to the sheriff's department
from Bastrup? Why was he there for sixteen minutes? He
was there for sixteen minutes and at the end of
the day when he went.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Sister, has she ever threatened suicide?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
She's attempted suicide before twelve years ago, twelve years ago
when she went after a car accident. But that does
I mean I've attempted suicide before. I'm not gonna lie
to you. Doesn't mean I'm gonna do it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Maybe not, but it if you or love someone and
they've threatened to this before, and for whatever reason, you
may have a feeling.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Maybe he did know and he didn't want to be
the one to find her or the other end of that.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's a possibility. But the but the bottom line is
he didn't kill her. It does not.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
But did he tell anyone else that he knew she
was dead?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
He knew she was dead at noon when she went
to the sheriff's office. He was instructed to go about
his day and be seen around town.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And who instructed him to don't We don't know. But
why would he go to the town.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Why would you say I'm just saying it's a possibility,
just like you said, it's a possibility that he had
a feeling that I'm just saying that's a possibility, and
an alternate number of possibilities.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Only these possibilities you should contact to civil attorney, right
and there's some good ones in Monroe.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And you're from that area. You know, listen to what
they have to say.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
That way, you're paying them, and you don't have any
question in your mind that there's some kind of conflict
of interest.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
We're waiting on the results of the state police investigation
before we go to the courts, because when they find
what they think we're going to what we think they're
going to find is really going to bolster our case,
not just against Tony Jones, but maybe against some other
people too, because the sheriff is just completely ignored evidence.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Okay, well, I'm sorry I've been more healthful to y'all.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
But thank you, mister sir. Once again, I apologize for
being emotional at the beginning of the meeting. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's all right, okay. So for those of you who
might have skipped ahead just for an overall summary of
the meeting, Dane started by explaining they were also speaking
on behalf of their mother, who still could not bear
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to talk about Crystal's death. As they began questioning the
police report, all topsy findings and topsyicology results, it quickly
became clear that the District Attorney's office viewed the case
as closed. A suicide with no signs of foul play.
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Even when Jenna and Dane pointed to cell phone records
showing Tony Jones at the scene, inconsistencies in the timeline,
and evidence of physical signs suggesting a struggle, they were
repeatedly told that none of it mattered because the autopsy
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said suicide. The discussion got a little heated. Dane briefly
left the room in frustration after being told the time
of death listed on the death certificate didn't matter and
that Tony's presence at the home near that time proved nothing.
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Crime Scene photos and autopsy images were shown, none of
which the family had ever seen before. Their concerns over
visible bruises and abrasions were brushed off as lividity or
marks from lying down. Even Cristal's broken fingernail, dirt under
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her manicured nails, and bruising on her thighs were brushed off.
Dane came back into the room and apologized for his emotion,
but he remained firm the timeline. The altered stories from
the sheriff, and Cristal's own tracking of her husband's movements
told a story that no one in authority seemed willing
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to listen to the DA said that she saw no
evidence of murder and that the sheriff had done a
quote very thorough job. When Jana explained how the sheriff
became irate simply over her obtaining a copy of Crystal's
death certificate, it was met with such an alarming lack
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of concern. The meeting ended with Jana and Dane realizing
the DA's office, like the Sheriff's department, had made up
its mind despite new questions, timelines, and concerns. This was,
in their words, a suicide. But for Crystal's family, the
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signs say otherwise. March twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, after
sitting across from District Attorney Penny Doucier, Jena knew what
needed to be done. She and her brother had followed
the chain of command, first the sheriff, now the district attorney,
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and still every step felt like a dead end. The
stories they were told did not line up, The tone
shifted depending on who they were speaking with, and what
should have been consistent facts were anything but. So that evening,
Jenna wrote an email to Miss Roshunda Ward executive Officer
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to Colonel Lamar A. Davis of the Louisiana State Police.
It was time to take this higher. She laid everything
out and asked for help. Miss Ward replied almost immediately
someone from their investigations division would be in touch. The
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next day, March thirtieth, that call came. It was Investigator
Jesse Nilsen from Troop F. From the start, Nilsen was frustrated,
not with Jenna, but with the way the case had
been handled internally. He told her that he had already
been speaking with Investigator Grissom about this case. Now he
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was getting an email through a different chain, and he
wasn't sure why. Jena explained that her original contact with
Grissom was solely about passed allegations against Tony and the
concerns surrounding that. It wasn't until after the DA meeting
and the growing contradictions from officials that she made the
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decision to escalate things formally through the Louisiana State Police. Apparently,
Grissom had found her recording of the March twenty first
phone call with Sheriff Matthews troubling enough to share it
with others. It had begun to ripple outward. But what
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Nilsen wanted to know first was why are you trying
to change your sister's death from a suicide to a homicide.
Jana didn't miss a beat in her response, quote, I'm
not trying to change anything. I just want answers. I
want the evidence looked at fairly, as if mister Jones
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weren't tied to the West CAAs Gerl Sheriff's Department. She
told him everything, the DA's refusal to take the timeline seriously,
the insistence that a time of death listed on the
official state certificate didn't matter the moment. DA Doucier said
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Cristel's death was immediate, as if that somehow excused not
calling for help the moment. She casually said that it
was common since Tony must have known Cristel was already dead,
which is why he sent Chuck Harris, another West Carol employee,
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to the house instead of going himself. Jena also relayed
a disturbing detail that had been weighing heavily on her
mind back during that meeting with Sheriff Matthews on February
twenty third, He confidently claimed that the shellcasing found a
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week after Crystal's death by Tony himself could be seen
in a photo taken on the day she died, but
during the meeting with DA Doucier, Jana specifically asked to
see those photos. She had Dane step out of the
room so he wouldn't have to see their sister's body.
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She looked at every image the DA had and there
was no shell casing, no photo of a vanity, no
wide shots of the bedroom. In fact, when she asked
about the lack of photos, DA investigator Victor Smith admitted, quote,
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there were very few at the scene. Nilsen listened. Then
he asked her to send everything, every document, every image,
every recording she had. But before ending the call, he
left her with one final request, quote, just promise me
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that if we look into this and nothing comes up,
that you'll let it go. Jena responded with what she
knew to be true. She trusted he would look, but
she would never let this go, not when it came
to her sister. Later that day, she emailed it all,
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Sheriff Matthew's recorded call, the full DA meeting, and every
piece of evidence they had carefully gathered over the past month.
She had done everything right, and now she waited. April tenth,
twenty twenty three. With no resolution and still no accountability,
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Jena continued pursuing every possible avenue. That day, she walked
into the Oak Grove Post Office, this time not with grief,
but with documentation. She presented records showing that Tony had
improperly mailed Crystal's cremated remains, violating federal mailing protocols. It
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wasn't just bad judgment, It was illegal, and it mattered.
But as the days stretched on, something became clear. Despite
the state investigator's promises, communication had basically stopped. Weeks passed,
silence followed yet again. April seventeenth, twenty twenty three, Jana
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sent a simple email to Investigator Jesse Nilson with the
Louisiana State Police, asking for an update. Three days later,
Nielsen called back. His tone was less defensive and more open,
but the message was still hard to hear. To access
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any real evidence from the West cant Carrol Sheriff's Department,
Jana would need to hire an attorney and file a
formal Freedom of Information Act request. Nielsen had also clarified
something crucial, Crystal's toxicology report had been misrepresented during the
DA meeting the amount of xanax found in her system
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was so small that it was leaving her body, suggesting
she had taken it the night before, not the dangerously
high dosage they'd been led to believe. It directly contradicted
the implication that Crystal had overdosed or was mentally compromised
at the time of her death. Nielsen then shared something else.
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West Carol Parrish had refused to allow the Louisiana State
Police to conduct an investigation. The Sheriff's department had already
quote unquote closed the case. According to them, there was
no crime, no wrongdoing, no reason for anyone else to
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get involved. Jana asked about the ring doorbell footage from
Crystal and Tony's home that was potentially critical evidence. Nilson
told her that Detective Alan Rby had tried to access
the camera but couldn't. He also admitted that Irby never
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sought any assistance to retrieve that footage. He simply gave up.
And now, because West Carroll claimed there could be quote
pending legal litigation, Nilson said the state Police could no
longer move forward. They were done. He ended the call
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by saying to let him know if anything new came
up once the family had retained an attorney May eighth,
twenty twenty three. Done waiting after weeks of being denied documentation,
even after being told to her face that certain reports
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should not be in her possession, she decided to act.
If no one would advocate for her sister, she would.
She drafted her own formal records request for the February ninth,
twenty twenty three, police report on Crystal's death, and submitted
it directly to the West Carol Parish Sheriff's Department, and
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two days later they responded she could have the report
for a ten dollar fee, but she'd have to drive
to Oak Grove in person to get it. When she did,
what she got wasn't the report that she and her
brother had read on March twenty ninth during their meeting
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with the DA. That report, the one they were told
they shouldn't have, was different. It included details that didn't
appear in the version she was given. The new report
was pretty much a cut and paste of the location
data that Jana herself had gotten from Tony's laptop. It
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didn't read like an official account of what happened that day.
It read like someone trying to reverse engineer a story,
using the family's own findings to create the appearance of
a thorough investigation. During the meeting with the DA on
March twenty ninth, Dane had read a piece of that
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original report out loud, the one they weren't supposed to have.
It described how Tony was tracked from eight o'clock that
morning and didn't return home until he learned of Crystal's death.
But Jana and Dane had proof that was not true.
The phone record wards showed that he was at the house.
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Their evidence showed his story changed only after they had
handed over the timeline, and still no one who could
actually help seem to care. May tenth, twenty twenty three.
Jana had waited patiently. She had followed every step that
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she was told to take. She paid the fee, she
picked up the police report, but what she received wasn't
the truth. It was a replacement, a rewrite, and now
she had proof that even the reports themselves had changed.
West Carol Parrish Sheriff's Office knew they could not legally
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withhold public records from her, so she submitted a second
record's request, this time for the crime scene photographs, the
ones she had viewed in person on March twenty ninth,
during the meeting with the district attorney. She wasn't asking
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for the photos out of morbid curiosity. She was asking
because of a lie. Back during the February twenty third
meeting with Sheriff Scott Matthews, he made a very specific
claim the shellcasing found by Tony a full week after
Crystal's death, was already visible in a photo taken the
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day she died, that the oversight was simply a human error,
five sets of eyes missing something that was there all along.
But when Jana reviewed those crime scene photos on March
twenty ninth, that photo did not exist. There was no
image of the vanity, no shellcasing on the makeup stand,
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no wide shot showing what Matthews had insisted could plainly
be seen. Jana needed those photos in her hands, not
just to confirm what she remembered, but to disprove what
the sheriff had sworn was true. Back in that meeting,
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Sheriff Matthews said each of these quotes within minutes of
each other. Quote. Alan, my chief deputy goes back and
looks at the photos he took, and there's the shellcasing
in the photo. It's there there in the photo, you
can plainly see the shellcasing is laying there. And yet
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when Jana looked at the pictures frame by frame with
DA investigator Victor Smith, he said it himself quote, there
were very few at the scene. Since Matthews claimed they existed,
she wanted them to prove it. That same day, she
also sent a request to directly to Corner Lewis Carter,
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the man whose name was on Crystal's death certificate. She
asked for every piece of information he had regarding Cristal's death,
because at this point every institution connected to this case
had contradicted itself, and Jana was done relying on other
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people's versions of the truth. If they were going to
tell her quote the evidences there, then she wanted it
in her hands, not just in their words and excuses.
The deeper Jana went, the more contradictions she found. That day,
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she finally read the police report that she had fought
to get. It said that the firearm and the National
Integrated Ballistic Information Network report were still quote in process
at the Shreveport Crime Lab. It also noted that the
North Louisiana Crime Lab had not completed its work, so
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Jenna reached out directly. She emailed the crime lab in Shreveport,
hoping for a simple update were their results. Had testing
been done, was the analysis of the firearm even started.
The reply was quick but frustrating. Stephen Fleming, the lab's
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forensic toxicology supervisor, told her that their policy did not
allow any release of information to anyone outside the District
Attorney's office or the agency that submitted the request. In
other words, unless she was law enforcement or had a
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court order, she wasn't getting answers. Even when she asked
if he could simply confirm whether a report existed, the
response she got was quote, sorry, unfortunately, I can't disclose
if we have or don't have a case related to
the name you mentioned. Jana knew that she could send
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another request to the sheriff or DA, but for now
she waited. Her previous efforts had already brought on so
many roadblocks she needed to keep moving forward. May twelfth,
twenty twenty three, having received no acknowledgment from the West
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Carol Coroner's Office in response to her public records request,
Jana faxed it again, this time directly to coroner Lewis Carter.
He responded by email the same day. The message was informal,
full of typos, and really vague. It simply said, quote,
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just a note to let you know the way this
Carol Coroner's office of your request. I will forward you
this information this next week. It wasn't promising, but it
was something. Three days later, Jana was notified that the
crime scene photos she had requested were ready. They were
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burned onto a disc and available for pickup at the
West Carol Parish Sheriff's office. She drove there, picked them
up and put the disk in as soon as she could,
and what she saw was a whole new set of
discoveries and more heartbreak. Some of the photos were labeled
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screenshot twenty twenty three oh two ten and screenshot twenty
twenty three oh two fourteen, clearly taken days after Crystal's death.
These weren't raw crime scene photos. They were saved screenshots,
not capture in real time at the scene. According to
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the official timeline, officers had left the scene unattended overnight,
and now these late screenshots were being used to represent
key evidence, like the projectile from the firearm. Four photos
that were labeled victim one, five, seven, and eight were
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entirely new to Jenna. These images were not shown to
her by the district attorney during their meeting, despite being
told that she was shown everything, and they were disturbing
because they featured a pillow with a clear gunshot cinemark
at the top of it. The implication was devastating. This
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pillow had been over Crystal's head when the trigger was pulled.
No one had ever told her that, no one had
ever even mentioned it, and it had never been considered
when her sister's death was ruled a suicide. But perhaps
most telling of all was what wasn't there? Once again,
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the photo that Sheriff Scott Matthews had confidently described, the
one that supposedly showed the shell casing found by Tony
a week after Crystal's death, did not exist. Matthews had
said that the shellcasing could be plainly seen in one
of the original crime scene photos. He had insisted that
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his own team went back and saw it themselves. But
it wasn't on the disc, it wasn't in any photo.
It wasn't there. The story once again did not match
the evidence, and this time Jana had the proof in
her hands. May fifteenth, twenty two, twenty three, a call
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came from a number that Jana did not recognize at first.
It was a miscall and a voicemail from Lewis Carter,
the coroner for West Carol Parrish. She returned the call
as soon as she could. To her surprise, mister Carter
was polite, gracious even He told her that he believed
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she and her family deserved to have all the records
related to Cristel's death. More than once, he promised that
he had no intentions of hiding anything from her, but
he also admitted that he wasn't comfortable sending the documents electronically. Instead,
he asked if it would be okay to send them
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by a certified mail. Jana agreed. Two days later, the
envelope arrived. She opened it as quick as she could,
hoping for answers, but what she found was yet another
pile of contradictions, errors, and handwritten changes. Right there on
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page one in the date time box, the original type
time was ten thirty five am, a timestamp that matched
everything Jana and her family had been piecing together for weeks.
It lined up with Tony's last phone call to Crystal,
which occurred around ten am. If Crystal had been deceased
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by ten thirty five, it would suggest that Tony knew
long before four thirty four PM, when Deputy Chuck Harris
officially called in her death. But that ten thirty five
timestamp had a single line drawn through it. Below it,
in handwriting, was a new time five oh five pm,
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along with the date two nine two three. Why the correction?
Who made it? And why was it handwritten after the
report had been typed. Jena didn't press the coroner about it,
not yet, but she took careful note because to her
it looked like someone had changed the timeline. The following
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inconsistency stuck out. Her name was misspelled again. Her birth
date was listed as five seventeen nineteen rather than her
actual birth year nineteen seventy nine. Her body temperature was
simply listed as cold, no medical reading, and no care
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for accuracy. The section for marks and Wounds said none,
followed by a description of a gunshot wound to the
right side of the head with an exit wound above
the left ear, as if a gunshot wound somehow didn't
qualify as a wound under probable cause of death. The
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report read quote cardiopulmonary arrest due to the close contact
wound to the right side of the head, not gunshot wound,
just wound. That omission felt purposeful, and it wasn't the
only one. On page two, the personal history section failed
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to note that Crystal had previously attempted suicide more than
a decade ago, a missing piece that seemed significant, especially
given that her death had been ruled a suicide. Beside
the word disease, it stated that Crystal had insomnia, anxiety,
and atrial fibrillation. Crystal never had atrial fibrillation, it was
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never listed in her medical records, never diagnosed, and never treated.
Even more absurd were the notes listed under other diabetic,
had diarrhea, pneumonia, and a history of seizures. None of
it was true, and it could all be disproven easily
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with her prescription history, medical records, and care documentation, yet
it had been signed off and included in the official
record of her death. Then, on page three, a subtle
but potentially crucial piece of misinformation in the section labeled
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Circumstances of death, it stated that Crystal had been found
by Chuck Harris, which was true, but the report listed
Deputy Harris's home address as one four to three seven
Highway two, just one number off from Tony's address. That
was not the correct address for Deputy Chuck Harris. Was
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it a mistake or was it an attempt to imply
that Deputy Harris lived next door to Jones, thereby softening
the whole narrative that Tony hadn't showed up himself but
instead sent a coworker from right next door to check
on Crystal. Jana didn't have the answers, but she did
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have the documents, and now she had even more proof
that what she was being told and what was being
recorded were not the same. As Jana continued going through
the coroner's documents, she turned her attention to another part
of page three. Under the heading narrative Summary of Circumstances
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surrounding death, Coroner Lewis Carter stated that Deputy David Voight
was the only officer he interacted with at the scene.
No mention of anyone else, according to his accounts quote,
no slow hug to my knowledge, was recovered. This statement
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was in direct contradiction to the police report, which claimed
that the bullet fired from the gun had been recovered
while Carter was on the scene. Jana knew this wasn't
just a small clerical error. She had been there. She
had watched the coroner remove her sister's body from the
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house at exactly five forty two pm. She waited until
Crystal was brought out before she left the property. A
crime scene photo labeled victim twelve even showed a background
clock reading five twenty one pm, confirming the timeline. But
according to Tony's own Google location data, he left the
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scene at five fifty six pm. Yet the police report
claimed he didn't give his statement at the Sheriff's department
until six forty five. Almah an hour to drive twelve
point two miles, a trip that normally takes about fourteen minutes.
So what happened during that missing time? Adding to the confusion,
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photos of the bullet were labeled on the crime scene
disc as screenshot twenty twenty three O two ten and
screenshot twenty twenty three oh two fourteen. These weren't even
taken on the day Crystal died. They were screenshots taken
from a phone days after the crime scene had already
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been left unattended overnight. How could something as important as
the bullet that ended Crystal's life be discovered later, and
yet described in the report as if it had been
recovered while the coroner was still present. As usual, nothing
added up. May twenty third, twenty twenty three, an email
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came in from Carol Deer, chief civil deputy with West
Carroll Sheriff's Office. She said Sheriff Matthews had asked her
to forward a report from the crime lab to Jana.
It was the firearms analysis report, the very one Jana
had requested on May tenth from the North Louisiana Crime
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Lab in Shreveport. She had never filed a formal request
with the Sheriff's office, only with the lab itself. But
somehow it seemed like the Sheriff's office had received word
that she was asking questions. Coincidence maybe, but the dates
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on the report were fishy. As we close out Part four,
all of these things that Crystal's family faced weren't just
little errors. They were obstacles intentionally or just next diligently
put in their way, And the next and final episode,
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Part five, will continue to expose a system that is
currently failing Crystal to this day. Despite that, her light
will forever outshine their darkness. Be sure to sign the
petition in the show notes and support of reopening the
investigation into Crystal's death. Also, all of Jenna's social media
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accounts are linked in the show notes as well if
you'd like to follow along, support her through this tough journey,
and keep up with any new updates. As updates come in,
I'll compile them until I have enough information for many
episodes to keep you all informed as well. Thank you
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so much for listening. Until next time, friends, stay safe
and take care.
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Thank you for listening to this episode.
Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
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Hello, and welcome to Revery True Crime. I'm your host page.
In Part four of Crystal Story, we're about to learn
how important it is to be persistent right in the
face of silence and passivity, to not back down when
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loud contradiction spew from the mouths of those in power. Also,
more findings continue to paint a very different picture than
the one Crystal's family had been told. Through public records,
meetings and a lot of time spent going through all
the evidence, what you're about to hear will give you
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a better understanding of not just what happened to Crystal,
but how far some are willing to go to stick
to one story, to seemingly be loyal to the sheriff
over investigating to find out the truth, no matter what
that might be, to give no valid counterpoints with even
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a little proof to back it, in order to seriously
dispute or disprove the family's findings and questions. So, without
further ado, let's get started. March twenty second, twenty twenty,
it had been one full month since Tony Jones took
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Crystal's ashes from the funeral home, a month of silence,
of evasion, of denying her mother, her siblings, and her
family any real chance to formally mourn her, which is
torture that anyone with a heart would never put another
person through. But finally, that morning, at eight thirty one,
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Tony walked into the Oak Grove Post Office and mailed
what he claimed to be Crystal's cremated remains to her
oldest son, Corbin, in New York. He decided to do
this days after he learned that the GoFundMe accusations that
he started had been dismissed, and when he knew he
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wouldn't be getting any money from the fundraiser. Not until
then did he follow through with what was simply the
decent thing to do. From the beginning, Corbin had texted
Tony weeks earlier on March seventh, asking when he should
expect his mom's ashes, but it wasn't until fifteen days
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later that the package was sent. It was painfully obvious
that if Corbin hadn't reached out, Tony likely wouldn't have
mailed anything at all. That same day, Crystal's sister Janna
got a call from investigator Daniel Grissom with the Louisiana
State Police. During their conversation, they talked about Jenna's recent
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phone call with Sheriff Matthews, the one where he insisted
that a coroner never determines time of death and denied
the validity of Crystal's death certificate. Grissom listened, then shared
that while he wasn't an expert in death certificates, his
brother in law dealt with them every single day, and
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when he releaed laid what Matthews had said, his brother
in law was appalled. Appalled by the sheriff's dismissiveness, Appalled
by the misinformation. Jana sent Grissom the full recording of
her conversation with Matthews, but after that she never heard
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from him again. March twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, Corbin
received the package. It arrived in an old, bent and
damaged brown box, nothing like what should have carried the
remains of someone's mother. He sent pictures to his uncle
Dane right away. The shock was immediate. There were no
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documents inside, no identification, no chain of custody, nothing to
confirm whose ashes those even are. Just an urn, loosely
sealed and inside a small amount of acas, maybe a
quarter of what Corbin should have gotten. When the family
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got in touch with the crematory, they were told that
at least four different forms of documentation would have originally
been included when Tony picked up Crystal's remains from the
funeral home. These are meant to stay with any portion
of the ashes, so that if divided, each set could
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be clearly tied to Crystal. But none of that was
in Corbin's mangled box. The packaging itself was careless, thrown
together like it held nothing of importance. There was no
special handling label, no indication that what was inside was
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human remains. It was treated like a damaged appliance or
a return from eBay. There was a shipping insurance policy.
On it, but only up to one hundred dollars as
of Crystal's life and what remained of it could be
assigned a dollar amount. The family contacted the US Postal
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Inspection Service right away. An open investigation is now under
way because Tony did not follow protocol, He did not
tell the post office what he was mailing, and he
ignored federal regulations for transporting human remains across state lines.
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But more than that, he treated Crystal's ashes like they
meant nothing. And for her family, who had already lost
so much, that kind of carelessness and callousness cut deeper
than words ever could. On March twenty ninth, twenty twenty three,
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Crystal McRory Jones's siblings Jana and Dane sat down for
a meeting with District Attorneyerny Penny Doucier and DA investigator
Victor Smith. They came armed with questions, evidence, and emotional wounds.
From the beginning, the tension was so noticeable. I am
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going to insert that meeting here and after I'll give
a summary so I don't give away any spoilers for
those who would like to listen for themselves.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Just come to open the store. Him Joe, Jim, you
have to sit right here and let me stoy y'all.
Excuse the masks, dere Have I talked to you on
the phone. I think you talked to me.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I was trying to get a touchwoods Chriff Matthews before
and we had the numbers.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
We've never fased on your book.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, yes, you want to start, but just tell me
what your specific questions are or do.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You want to just start by reading to me?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Well, we've read the preliminary we'd really like to see
I see all topics is the uh toxicology findings.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
It should be attached to that, you know.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
Yeah, we've got this.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So you they had the preliminary. H this is the
all top super prit so, I remember what you mean
about preliminary.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
This is the final autops super okay, Well the d okay.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
This is done by doctor prit Right.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
We were on a depression that they were waiting on,
uh the toxicology. You come back from the lab to
you know, to show what drugs were in her system,
cause she had a bunch of medications that she was prescribed.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
It should have been in her system.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, it's printed it out. And I was saying y'all
had not seen it.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Okay, let me see.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I have you to make sure that's what I looked at.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
My mom was on the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
If you have you ever done? Have you said you
wanted to see a police report?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yes, ma'am turning away, we can get another copy of
the taking point.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I really I wrote you. I'm just ink your babble
cause you're literally not supposed to have it.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Kay, Okay, this says the website.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What you okay?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
The chrief said they recovered the slow The police report
says that he wasn't recovered.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I think they recovered the slug from the dead. I
don't know that they recover the case.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Uh the showcasing was found a week later by the husband.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I don't think that that was Okay.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
You say you can't give us a copy of this.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
M don't care?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Why what is it?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Okay? Well, we have right here, mister syar, we have.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
We have some serious concerns, says mister Johnson's timeline was
tracked from eight a m. In the morning when he
left his residence and did not return to the residence
till being informed of his watch death.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
We have cell phone records that put him at the scene. Uh,
the chef says, these things are relevant to the investigation.
Mind you tell me what. Let me let me ask you.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Video surveillance footage running came of the system self on
location records that put him at the scene. Time of
death is determined by a corner on an official state
death certificate.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Can I tell you how the time of death he's putting.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I've talked to a corner. My wife is a nurse
correct tentionner. She talks to doctors every day.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
She talks to a corner every other day when she
has to have people admitted for suicide watch.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
We talked to a corner. We know Houston time.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
They don't. They don't have an exact time.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Of the state death certificate lists eleven a m. We
have cell phone records putting him there. So my sister
had started tracking his movements a week prior to her
death on a work laptop. We have his movements for
the whole day cell phone locations. That police report is
hot garbage. Is Tony John's. That sheriff stamp Tony Johnes'
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is narrative? Okay, we have inmiscible in court.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Evidence that that timeline is is trash.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What difference does that? First of all, the timeline I there.
We're not gonna have an exact time of death for
any death. Okay, anybody tells you something different, they're long. Okay,
we did they have the last known contact?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
And do they have the time of when the body
is discovered? And then they have the body?
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Tis well? We have cell phone location records for his
activity for.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The whole day. Yeah, so what is that crime?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Like the prince? He was at the scene.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Okay, but you don't know when she died. That's good, okay, Rank.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You don't wanna see the fighters? Nah?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
We got fighters about it. Come on, John, that's.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Good, thank you. Do you wanna see the photos? Please?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Alright?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
What's up the door? How you gonna pull 'em up
a little lot of times?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
And then you tell me which one you want to
look at?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
All? Right?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
To let me have the scene.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't want you to see some or she wants.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
I mean, I'll be in the parking lot, Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Can I finish reading the rest of that report?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Which one in miss?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Interesting? So y'all have seen the picture of the crime
saving by those I have none, And I did not
want him to see them either jam this nice Jesus system.
This is my investigator.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I'm sorry, let's too serial. Let my motions get the
best of me. I apologize.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's okay. So you said you've seen the pictures. I'm
just wondering what pictures you've seen. No, no, no, we
have not seen anything.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
We haven't seen any any of from the scene. We
took several photos of the body at the funeral home,
the funeral advisors, but director advised us, hey, you know,
this is the guy who's seen a lot of bodies.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
He said, there's some things that are concerning.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
There were a lot of signs of struggle on the
body that we took photos of.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Well, there was no injuries noted at all.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Right, Like I said, we have photographic evidence of abrasions
and laceration on left form, missing fingernail. Fingernails were freshly
manicured and painted, yet there were dirt and debris present
under fingernails with both hands, multiple bruises on legs, and
there were not.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Multiple bruises on her legs. There was some markings of
where she had been laying. I mean, yes, her nails
are nicely done, but even if you get your nails done.
I'm sure any woman can tell you it takes about
fifteen minutes to go out and pick up a pot.
So how do I scroll?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You just roll it with your mouse.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
But I don't want it yet. I don't want to
see any of this stuff out.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Do you want to see it?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can see them, I don't want him to see them.
So I don't know what broken far nails that that
nail does.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Look to be broken, but you know that can happen.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I don't see that as being signs of struggle. And
this gives you just a little bit better idea of exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
How she was laying on the bed. There were very
few at the seat, and.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'll show you something that they told me that the
bullet was stove piped.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I don't love that shine going there's halfway back.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And what the corner has explained to me is that
a lot of times women people really firm grip on
a gun, and that's just what or anybody that doesn't
have a relief will frequently.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
So you see the position that she's laying in.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Now, these are the markings that I'm assuming they're saying
is bruising, but.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's from where she's laying on her on her side.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's lividity, so that there's no bruising home there. And
that's the last one on that that is from the
west Carol corner.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So how do I go back to what it mean?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
How do I go back to where it doesn't have
any pictures? Nor come back in here for that?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
As long as that doesn't have pictures, Let's.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Print this and then just don't switch back to any pictures. Now,
I'm gonna print.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
This so you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So just sit. No, he had to come back in
I will come back to us.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
See I don't see any bruising. I don't know what
the pope k mean, what the funeral guy could be
talking about? Keep going now what he's showing it. I
think if you saw that an autopsy.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Guy is where he's putting it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Back so you can see the tearing that the autopsy describes.
Now if you go back to the tox support, let's
try one more time. There was another picture that I
wanted to show the headboard. That's the tox report if
you want to try to print it again. Okay, so
this shows what it tends to pass it for Alcoa's along.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That side in the summer or something like it is.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So you see that's what the bullet went through the headboard.
Have you probably saw it? Well, I don't know if
you ever went to the house. No, I've not been
to the house afterwards. I know the setup of the
bed and everything, but they have just removed the mattress.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yes, and it's a very level shot.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
It's yeah. I did our makeup at before the funerals.
It was it was temple to temple.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Okay, absolutely all.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So no more pictures, No more pictures because he knows
I was gonna let him look at this.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
You know that he knows what she was on.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Hey Dan, Yeah, come morning.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Here's the talks. Uh, the tough pyramids. That's tough. A match,
that's uh.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Okay, we're looking for apra Era proposal is abdulify.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, prisum. That's a ant.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
It's a depressant.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean it's yeah, white.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Value that X Okay, caffeine, we're not worried about that.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Also, and that was five one presume positive.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
No, look, let me sure he is this.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Presume positives for the caffeine.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Okay, okay, it's.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Not is im positive?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It is positive for the for the other time, okay,
and I'm really not supposed to let you write all
these down.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
So what are you looking for?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
What are you wanting?
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Because I mean narrative that has been who put forth
by Tony Jones is that she was off of Abilify
and that's what made her kind of go nutty and
do this to herself. She was on a five milliground
dose of Abilify, which I said, my wife's nurse practitioner.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
She's a present and now, but what is the scientific one?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
A R I P I P R A z O
l E arab pic resole.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay, you can look at this, but right what I
would prefer is if you have somebody who understands this
and wants to look at it, then they can make
a request to the lab.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
I guess right.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't mind you looking at it if you're looking
for something specific. Okay.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
I didn't see any of the abilifiers, and that's really
what I was looking at. Used to see her. Once again,
I apologize for me an emotional.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You're upset, and I don't blame you.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
It just seems to me that these things, with the
sheriff would have seen these things, is relevant to the investigation.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
He's told us they are irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Listen to me. I think the sheriff did a very
thorough job. He has chased down a lot of things
that y'all have found suspicious. He believes that this is
a After talking to y'all, I was like, Wow, something's
going on. But after I read this police report and
saw this autopsy, I have no doubt in my mind
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that this is a self inflicted wound. So I don't
know what else.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I don't know exactly what you could be.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, here's the thing, because I was attending to explain earlier,
my sister, almost a week to the day before her death,
started tracking Tony Jones's cell phone locations and his activities.
She knew that something was up. They had Chriot School.
Let me abut track a little bit. They had Karai
School there and no growth right. Enrollment had started to
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plummet at the Karate school. Parents were pulling their children
out of that Karate school left and right because of it.
So my sister started tracking his movements. She found We've
got a lot of other things and I'm not gonna
bring up here. They're very, very suspicious. But she was
getting ready to leave him or have him locked up
because she worn't around town. Has started getting around town.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
But hey, he's.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
The evidence we have that has been turned over to
the state police. They have seen fit to open investigation
based on the evidence we've given them about his.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Problem.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
That's why my sister's dead. She was getting ready to
leave him or have him locked up.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Okay, So the state police are investigating that into things,
and my private investigator has been conducting interviews with members
of the community who's said, I reckon, that's right there
in job description private.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But but I mean, I assume he's gonna call me.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
So I was just wondering, Well, we've been instructed that
you we need to see the lead from the sheriff,
which we didn't get.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
We need to go chank coman.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I'm an army better and I respect the chank Comman,
and you are the last stop before we go to
the courts.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Well, I assume you've contacted a private attorney, and that's
a good thing to do. I'm just saying that I
don't know your sister, don't know this man. I don't
know anything.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
He's a buffoon.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The sheriff.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
We can't get a straight hands from the chef if
he still watch for the Sheriff's Department or not.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
He doesn't.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Okay, well he's still on their website, he's still got.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
An auxiliary deputy.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
We can't get a straight hands from anybody if he's
ett employed by the Sheriff's department.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
As far as him being a deputy that I see
that turns in reports, would you say he's a buffoon?
He is, and I don't doubt it. If you were
suggesting that he's able to stage this crime scene and
able to mimic the path of this bullet, he would
have to be brilliant.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
You would just have to be a little bit bigger
than her what she was, and there was I guarantee
that a struggle over that weapon, as that the injuries
on her body dictate. Okay, well, well that'll be a
forer jury to decide a civil Yeah, that's exactly fine, and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I think you should do that if you If you
feel that way, you should go to a private attorney.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
In time.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I've consulted with a few. My wife's side of the
family's full of lawyers.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, is there anything else I can answer for you?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Well, I mean we have evidence that discredits the police report.
You say the police report is credible, So I guess
we're done.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I think the police report is credible.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Okay, we're going to do efcerate it in court. Well,
I'm just letting you know as a courtesy.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
It won't have anything to do with me.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Good, it won't have anything.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
To do with I'm sure your ethics are impeccable here,
I'm not. I'm not attacking your ethics and whatsoever. You're
where you are because the people if your parish elected
you to your position, and I'm sure your ethics are impecable,
and I know you have to stand by you're long term.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yes, I do stand alone are obviously.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Your ethics are probably impacted. When I'm not attacking your others.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, I think that we're not gonna be able
to get anywhere.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I I wish you all the best.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
If you have an attorney that wants to contact me,
I don't mind talking to them. Okay, and.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Hope I've answered your questions.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, thanks, Matt, extent that I could do.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
You have any questions, jam.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
My only concern is one changing it from a suicide
to a homicide. That's gonna be hard to prove. My
only concern is where was he when that happened? And
that were you on the phone with or when it happened,
or did you stop by the house when that happened,
cause you've called her help?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Uh well, obviously her death was immediate, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
But were you on the phone with her? And did
you hear a gun shot? And were you gonna ow
an argument like on the phone? W you know, got
into an argument over whatever and you heard that gun shot?
Because the reports I gave Sheriff Matthews that he's had
since February twenty third, is Tony's your own drove straight
from Bachelor to the Sheriff's department that day, and that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
If he was on the phone with her, that's not
a crime. It is, But why you know, and he
heard a shot? Why would he not?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Why would he say he's been trying all day to
get in touch with her. That's my only concern, and
you know that's a civil case. My only other concern
is can we please spell her name right?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
How do you spell her? Ny?
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I mean he would have to how do what is it?
God doesn't have the age?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Does not have an age? And and that's probably bothering
me more than anything. It's it's all civil against Tony
right now.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And they had issues.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
My sister had issues, Tony had issues, but he drove
past that house and I asked, you have Matthews for
phone records? You wanted to, you know, to narrow down
that time of death, because of course, you know, corner
does the time of death, right.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Unless you actually have a video of it, or we
have some how do your surveillance from a store camera
or anything, we don't. Well, they had a ring camera
at their house, which I'm.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Working on legally obtaining that footage.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Rug from the rank.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But the corner determines time of death. My sister's phone
records would say who did she talk to last? When
did her phone stop being active? That's gonna narrow it
down because she stayed on the phone twenty four to seven.
And that's not something they would even have to subpoena.
Tony wouldn't have to call a ten and ten and
get this, just print them off, not yet, just hers,
And that would narrow down to time of death to
say who was the last person she talked to? Okay,
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that was it down. It takes away about eleven am.
Something as simple as that, just to give us a
little bit of peace.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I don't think you're ever going to get satisfied by
anything that we tell you. I think you need to
go to the civil route. Well, without a doubt, yeah, yeah,
without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
The sheriff is just lied, I mean just repeatedly lie
after a lie, after a lie, after a lie.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
It started out as Tony Jones was it Forest High School?
Working all day?
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Once we handed o her cell phone records to the shiff, well,
well we knew, we knew who was in bass up.
You know, they want to backtrack and reverse engineer. I'm
surprised that they didn't even change it into that report.
If all a Foyer for that report as well. But
he's done nothing but lie to us. And I don't
understand why I worry as an engineering consultant and my
job's fat finding dat a collection. Well, she's working on
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her doctorate. The sheriff talks to us like we're Backwood's hicks.
He thinks we're stupid. We're not stupid people, mister here.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I don't think that you're stupid, but I do think
two things.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
One, you want to look.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
At this and so as an engineering problem, it's not
because crimes are not like that. They're very complicated in
a different way than an engineering problem would be. And two,
I think at this point you're not going to believe
anything that he says. I think that there's just been
a breakdown. But my job is to look at it
from a gentleman, from an objective thing, which I have done.
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When I look at this autopsy, it doesn't look it's
very obvious to me that it is a self inflicted wound.
And I have been doing I haven't seen as many
dead bodies as maybe your sister or your wife or whoever.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But I look at a lot of autopsies.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I talk to a lot of these officers who worked
a lot of cases over thirty four years. Doctor Peretti
does the autopsies for robably fifty of every homicide in
the state of Louisiana and in Arkansas.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Right, And I trust what.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He says that this.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Listen, you're aware that he's operating under multiple sanctions from
the Arkansas Medical Boarder.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
All pathologists because of what they do, are constantly being investigative.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
He is under sanctions for numerous ethical violations.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Well, what I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
We'll leave that alone right now, that's not your problem.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Well, why would Sheriff Matthews get so angry at me
over obtaining a death certificate?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Livid because here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Death certificates go to certain people, the next of kin,
and unfortunately you are not.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Now I think you, Mike, can ask for the death
certificate from the state. I did, Sheriff, No, I did.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I went through vital records because we had five copies
from the funeral home. Of course, Tony was next to Ken.
So I went through vital records to the State of
Louisiana and I ordered my own for my myself and
my mom and for him, you know, just one copy.
And when I got it in, you know, I just
detacked Chiff Matthews and I asked for him to to
give me a call. And when I did and he
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found out I had my own copy, he called me
a liar and and said that he asked who signed
off on the death certificate and he.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And when I told him, you know that it was
Lewis Carter with uh west Carol, he uh l. I'm
not exaggerating this.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
He became the same I rate same way I'm talking
to you now, is how I talked to everyone, because
I just try to keep my calm. He became irate
with me and said that he did not understand what
my family was uh attempting to do.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Basically said, I just had forged a death certificate. I
I don't know, Okay, well, but I.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Do know this.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Maybe you know w we want shot a house?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I really do. I do, I do. And I think
your sister was murdered. I think that you think your
brother in law and he sounds like a complete track ass.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I think you think he was maybe doing some other.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Stuff, but I don't see any evidence that he murdered
her sister. Now, he may have been cold, and maybe
do I think not. Based on this, common sense will
tell you that your brother in law knew that this
was probably waiting on him, because that's why he had
Chuck Harris go.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Now, he checked his daughter out of school at two
point thirty so she wouldn't rock the bus on and
find the body. Yeah, we know all those things.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
That doesn't mean we've got an official police report that
is not taking into account self phone location records, that
we've got a sheriff who refuses to even try to
get the videos revouance. Tony Jones told me that the
video of the ring video had not been working for
a month. We've uncovered emails that went to my sister's
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account that state the ring camera video system was updated
on January of the thirtieth, So the ring camera system
was not only was up and running, it had just
been updated.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Maybe he didn't pull the trigger, but he was directed.
He responsible for her death. And I know, from the
sheriff's standpoint and from the DA's standpoint, just because I
may frustrate somebody, or disappoint somebody, or cheat on whatever
I've done, that does not make me understand. And that's
what the sheriff's office role is in this. That's what
my rolling is. If you feel that he contributed to
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her death because of his behavior, you go to a
civil attorney and they can sue him for that.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
But why did he go straight to the sheriff's department
from Bastrup? Why was he there for sixteen minutes? He
was there for sixteen minutes and at the end of
the day when he went.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Sister, has she ever threatened suicide?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
She's attempted suicide before twelve years ago, twelve years ago
when she went after a car accident. But that does
I mean I've attempted suicide before. I'm not gonna lie
to you. Doesn't mean I'm gonna do it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Maybe not, but it if you or love someone and
they've threatened to this before, and for whatever reason, you
may have a feeling.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Maybe he did know and he didn't want to be
the one to find her or the other end of that.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's a possibility. But the but the bottom line is
he didn't kill her. It does not.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
But did he tell anyone else that he knew she
was dead?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
He knew she was dead at noon when she went
to the sheriff's office. He was instructed to go about
his day and be seen around town.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And who instructed him to don't We don't know. But
why would he go to the town.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Why would you say I'm just saying it's a possibility,
just like you said, it's a possibility that he had
a feeling that I'm just saying that's a possibility, and
an alternate number of possibilities.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Only these possibilities you should contact to civil attorney, right
and there's some good ones in Monroe.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And you're from that area. You know, listen to what
they have to say.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
That way, you're paying them, and you don't have any
question in your mind that there's some kind of conflict
of interest.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
We're waiting on the results of the state police investigation
before we go to the courts, because when they find
what they think we're going to what we think they're
going to find is really going to bolster our case,
not just against Tony Jones, but maybe against some other
people too, because the sheriff is just completely ignored evidence.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Okay, well, I'm sorry I've been more healthful to y'all.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
But thank you, mister sir. Once again, I apologize for
being emotional at the beginning of the meeting. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's all right, okay. So for those of you who
might have skipped ahead just for an overall summary of
the meeting, Dane started by explaining they were also speaking
on behalf of their mother, who still could not bear
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to talk about Crystal's death. As they began questioning the
police report, all topsy findings and topsyicology results, it quickly
became clear that the District Attorney's office viewed the case
as closed. A suicide with no signs of foul play.
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Even when Jenna and Dane pointed to cell phone records
showing Tony Jones at the scene, inconsistencies in the timeline,
and evidence of physical signs suggesting a struggle, they were
repeatedly told that none of it mattered because the autopsy
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said suicide. The discussion got a little heated. Dane briefly
left the room in frustration after being told the time
of death listed on the death certificate didn't matter and
that Tony's presence at the home near that time proved nothing.
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Crime Scene photos and autopsy images were shown, none of
which the family had ever seen before. Their concerns over
visible bruises and abrasions were brushed off as lividity or
marks from lying down. Even Cristal's broken fingernail, dirt under
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her manicured nails, and bruising on her thighs were brushed off.
Dane came back into the room and apologized for his emotion,
but he remained firm the timeline. The altered stories from
the sheriff, and Cristal's own tracking of her husband's movements
told a story that no one in authority seemed willing
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to listen to the DA said that she saw no
evidence of murder and that the sheriff had done a
quote very thorough job. When Jana explained how the sheriff
became irate simply over her obtaining a copy of Crystal's
death certificate, it was met with such an alarming lack
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of concern. The meeting ended with Jana and Dane realizing
the DA's office, like the Sheriff's department, had made up
its mind despite new questions, timelines, and concerns. This was,
in their words, a suicide. But for Crystal's family, the
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signs say otherwise. March twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, after
sitting across from District Attorney Penny Doucier, Jena knew what
needed to be done. She and her brother had followed
the chain of command, first the sheriff, now the district attorney,
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and still every step felt like a dead end. The
stories they were told did not line up, The tone
shifted depending on who they were speaking with, and what
should have been consistent facts were anything but. So that evening,
Jenna wrote an email to Miss Roshunda Ward executive Officer
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to Colonel Lamar A. Davis of the Louisiana State Police.
It was time to take this higher. She laid everything
out and asked for help. Miss Ward replied almost immediately
someone from their investigations division would be in touch. The
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next day, March thirtieth, that call came. It was Investigator
Jesse Nilsen from Troop F. From the start, Nilsen was frustrated,
not with Jenna, but with the way the case had
been handled internally. He told her that he had already
been speaking with Investigator Grissom about this case. Now he
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was getting an email through a different chain, and he
wasn't sure why. Jena explained that her original contact with
Grissom was solely about passed allegations against Tony and the
concerns surrounding that. It wasn't until after the DA meeting
and the growing contradictions from officials that she made the
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decision to escalate things formally through the Louisiana State Police. Apparently,
Grissom had found her recording of the March twenty first
phone call with Sheriff Matthews troubling enough to share it
with others. It had begun to ripple outward. But what
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Nilsen wanted to know first was why are you trying
to change your sister's death from a suicide to a homicide.
Jana didn't miss a beat in her response, quote, I'm
not trying to change anything. I just want answers. I
want the evidence looked at fairly, as if mister Jones
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weren't tied to the West CAAs Gerl Sheriff's Department. She
told him everything, the DA's refusal to take the timeline seriously,
the insistence that a time of death listed on the
official state certificate didn't matter the moment. DA Doucier said
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Cristel's death was immediate, as if that somehow excused not
calling for help the moment. She casually said that it
was common since Tony must have known Cristel was already dead,
which is why he sent Chuck Harris, another West Carol employee,
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to the house instead of going himself. Jena also relayed
a disturbing detail that had been weighing heavily on her
mind back during that meeting with Sheriff Matthews on February
twenty third, He confidently claimed that the shellcasing found a
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week after Crystal's death by Tony himself could be seen
in a photo taken on the day she died, but
during the meeting with DA Doucier, Jana specifically asked to
see those photos. She had Dane step out of the
room so he wouldn't have to see their sister's body.
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She looked at every image the DA had and there
was no shell casing, no photo of a vanity, no
wide shots of the bedroom. In fact, when she asked
about the lack of photos, DA investigator Victor Smith admitted, quote,
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there were very few at the scene. Nilsen listened. Then
he asked her to send everything, every document, every image,
every recording she had. But before ending the call, he
left her with one final request, quote, just promise me
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that if we look into this and nothing comes up,
that you'll let it go. Jena responded with what she
knew to be true. She trusted he would look, but
she would never let this go, not when it came
to her sister. Later that day, she emailed it all,
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Sheriff Matthew's recorded call, the full DA meeting, and every
piece of evidence they had carefully gathered over the past month.
She had done everything right, and now she waited. April tenth,
twenty twenty three. With no resolution and still no accountability,
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Jena continued pursuing every possible avenue. That day, she walked
into the Oak Grove Post Office, this time not with grief,
but with documentation. She presented records showing that Tony had
improperly mailed Crystal's cremated remains, violating federal mailing protocols. It
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wasn't just bad judgment, It was illegal, and it mattered.
But as the days stretched on, something became clear. Despite
the state investigator's promises, communication had basically stopped. Weeks passed,
silence followed yet again. April seventeenth, twenty twenty three, Jana
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sent a simple email to Investigator Jesse Nilson with the
Louisiana State Police, asking for an update. Three days later,
Nielsen called back. His tone was less defensive and more open,
but the message was still hard to hear. To access
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any real evidence from the West cant Carrol Sheriff's Department,
Jana would need to hire an attorney and file a
formal Freedom of Information Act request. Nielsen had also clarified
something crucial, Crystal's toxicology report had been misrepresented during the
DA meeting the amount of xanax found in her system
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was so small that it was leaving her body, suggesting
she had taken it the night before, not the dangerously
high dosage they'd been led to believe. It directly contradicted
the implication that Crystal had overdosed or was mentally compromised
at the time of her death. Nielsen then shared something else.
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West Carol Parrish had refused to allow the Louisiana State
Police to conduct an investigation. The Sheriff's department had already
quote unquote closed the case. According to them, there was
no crime, no wrongdoing, no reason for anyone else to
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get involved. Jana asked about the ring doorbell footage from
Crystal and Tony's home that was potentially critical evidence. Nilson
told her that Detective Alan Rby had tried to access
the camera but couldn't. He also admitted that Irby never
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sought any assistance to retrieve that footage. He simply gave up.
And now, because West Carroll claimed there could be quote
pending legal litigation, Nilson said the state Police could no
longer move forward. They were done. He ended the call
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by saying to let him know if anything new came
up once the family had retained an attorney May eighth,
twenty twenty three. Done waiting after weeks of being denied documentation,
even after being told to her face that certain reports
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should not be in her possession, she decided to act.
If no one would advocate for her sister, she would.
She drafted her own formal records request for the February ninth,
twenty twenty three, police report on Crystal's death, and submitted
it directly to the West Carol Parish Sheriff's Department, and
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two days later they responded she could have the report
for a ten dollar fee, but she'd have to drive
to Oak Grove in person to get it. When she did,
what she got wasn't the report that she and her
brother had read on March twenty ninth during their meeting
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with the DA. That report, the one they were told
they shouldn't have, was different. It included details that didn't
appear in the version she was given. The new report
was pretty much a cut and paste of the location
data that Jana herself had gotten from Tony's laptop. It
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didn't read like an official account of what happened that day.
It read like someone trying to reverse engineer a story,
using the family's own findings to create the appearance of
a thorough investigation. During the meeting with the DA on
March twenty ninth, Dane had read a piece of that
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original report out loud, the one they weren't supposed to have.
It described how Tony was tracked from eight o'clock that
morning and didn't return home until he learned of Crystal's death.
But Jana and Dane had proof that was not true.
The phone record wards showed that he was at the house.
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Their evidence showed his story changed only after they had
handed over the timeline, and still no one who could
actually help seem to care. May tenth, twenty twenty three.
Jana had waited patiently. She had followed every step that
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she was told to take. She paid the fee, she
picked up the police report, but what she received wasn't
the truth. It was a replacement, a rewrite, and now
she had proof that even the reports themselves had changed.
West Carol Parrish Sheriff's Office knew they could not legally
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withhold public records from her, so she submitted a second
record's request, this time for the crime scene photographs, the
ones she had viewed in person on March twenty ninth,
during the meeting with the district attorney. She wasn't asking
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for the photos out of morbid curiosity. She was asking
because of a lie. Back during the February twenty third
meeting with Sheriff Scott Matthews, he made a very specific
claim the shellcasing found by Tony a full week after
Crystal's death, was already visible in a photo taken the
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day she died, that the oversight was simply a human error,
five sets of eyes missing something that was there all along.
But when Jana reviewed those crime scene photos on March
twenty ninth, that photo did not exist. There was no
image of the vanity, no shellcasing on the makeup stand,
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no wide shot showing what Matthews had insisted could plainly
be seen. Jana needed those photos in her hands, not
just to confirm what she remembered, but to disprove what
the sheriff had sworn was true. Back in that meeting,
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Sheriff Matthews said each of these quotes within minutes of
each other. Quote. Alan, my chief deputy goes back and
looks at the photos he took, and there's the shellcasing
in the photo. It's there there in the photo, you
can plainly see the shellcasing is laying there. And yet
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when Jana looked at the pictures frame by frame with
DA investigator Victor Smith, he said it himself quote, there
were very few at the scene. Since Matthews claimed they existed,
she wanted them to prove it. That same day, she
also sent a request to directly to Corner Lewis Carter,
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the man whose name was on Crystal's death certificate. She
asked for every piece of information he had regarding Cristal's death,
because at this point every institution connected to this case
had contradicted itself, and Jana was done relying on other
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people's versions of the truth. If they were going to
tell her quote the evidences there, then she wanted it
in her hands, not just in their words and excuses.
The deeper Jana went, the more contradictions she found. That day,
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she finally read the police report that she had fought
to get. It said that the firearm and the National
Integrated Ballistic Information Network report were still quote in process
at the Shreveport Crime Lab. It also noted that the
North Louisiana Crime Lab had not completed its work, so
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Jenna reached out directly. She emailed the crime lab in Shreveport,
hoping for a simple update were their results. Had testing
been done, was the analysis of the firearm even started.
The reply was quick but frustrating. Stephen Fleming, the lab's
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forensic toxicology supervisor, told her that their policy did not
allow any release of information to anyone outside the District
Attorney's office or the agency that submitted the request. In
other words, unless she was law enforcement or had a
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court order, she wasn't getting answers. Even when she asked
if he could simply confirm whether a report existed, the
response she got was quote, sorry, unfortunately, I can't disclose
if we have or don't have a case related to
the name you mentioned. Jana knew that she could send
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another request to the sheriff or DA, but for now
she waited. Her previous efforts had already brought on so
many roadblocks she needed to keep moving forward. May twelfth,
twenty twenty three, having received no acknowledgment from the West
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Carol Coroner's Office in response to her public records request,
Jana faxed it again, this time directly to coroner Lewis Carter.
He responded by email the same day. The message was informal,
full of typos, and really vague. It simply said, quote,
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just a note to let you know the way this
Carol Coroner's office of your request. I will forward you
this information this next week. It wasn't promising, but it
was something. Three days later, Jana was notified that the
crime scene photos she had requested were ready. They were
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burned onto a disc and available for pickup at the
West Carol Parish Sheriff's office. She drove there, picked them
up and put the disk in as soon as she could,
and what she saw was a whole new set of
discoveries and more heartbreak. Some of the photos were labeled
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screenshot twenty twenty three oh two ten and screenshot twenty
twenty three oh two fourteen, clearly taken days after Crystal's death.
These weren't raw crime scene photos. They were saved screenshots,
not capture in real time at the scene. According to
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the official timeline, officers had left the scene unattended overnight,
and now these late screenshots were being used to represent
key evidence, like the projectile from the firearm. Four photos
that were labeled victim one, five, seven, and eight were
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entirely new to Jenna. These images were not shown to
her by the district attorney during their meeting, despite being
told that she was shown everything, and they were disturbing
because they featured a pillow with a clear gunshot cinemark
at the top of it. The implication was devastating. This
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pillow had been over Crystal's head when the trigger was pulled.
No one had ever told her that, no one had
ever even mentioned it, and it had never been considered
when her sister's death was ruled a suicide. But perhaps
most telling of all was what wasn't there? Once again,
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the photo that Sheriff Scott Matthews had confidently described, the
one that supposedly showed the shell casing found by Tony
a week after Crystal's death, did not exist. Matthews had
said that the shellcasing could be plainly seen in one
of the original crime scene photos. He had insisted that
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his own team went back and saw it themselves. But
it wasn't on the disc, it wasn't in any photo.
It wasn't there. The story once again did not match
the evidence, and this time Jana had the proof in
her hands. May fifteenth, twenty two, twenty three, a call
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came from a number that Jana did not recognize at first.
It was a miscall and a voicemail from Lewis Carter,
the coroner for West Carol Parrish. She returned the call
as soon as she could. To her surprise, mister Carter
was polite, gracious even He told her that he believed
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she and her family deserved to have all the records
related to Cristel's death. More than once, he promised that
he had no intentions of hiding anything from her, but
he also admitted that he wasn't comfortable sending the documents electronically. Instead,
he asked if it would be okay to send them
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by a certified mail. Jana agreed. Two days later, the
envelope arrived. She opened it as quick as she could,
hoping for answers, but what she found was yet another
pile of contradictions, errors, and handwritten changes. Right there on
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page one in the date time box, the original type
time was ten thirty five am, a timestamp that matched
everything Jana and her family had been piecing together for weeks.
It lined up with Tony's last phone call to Crystal,
which occurred around ten am. If Crystal had been deceased
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by ten thirty five, it would suggest that Tony knew
long before four thirty four PM, when Deputy Chuck Harris
officially called in her death. But that ten thirty five
timestamp had a single line drawn through it. Below it,
in handwriting, was a new time five oh five pm,
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along with the date two nine two three. Why the correction?
Who made it? And why was it handwritten after the
report had been typed. Jena didn't press the coroner about it,
not yet, but she took careful note because to her
it looked like someone had changed the timeline. The following
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inconsistency stuck out. Her name was misspelled again. Her birth
date was listed as five seventeen nineteen rather than her
actual birth year nineteen seventy nine. Her body temperature was
simply listed as cold, no medical reading, and no care
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for accuracy. The section for marks and Wounds said none,
followed by a description of a gunshot wound to the
right side of the head with an exit wound above
the left ear, as if a gunshot wound somehow didn't
qualify as a wound under probable cause of death. The
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report read quote cardiopulmonary arrest due to the close contact
wound to the right side of the head, not gunshot wound,
just wound. That omission felt purposeful, and it wasn't the
only one. On page two, the personal history section failed
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to note that Crystal had previously attempted suicide more than
a decade ago, a missing piece that seemed significant, especially
given that her death had been ruled a suicide. Beside
the word disease, it stated that Crystal had insomnia, anxiety,
and atrial fibrillation. Crystal never had atrial fibrillation, it was
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never listed in her medical records, never diagnosed, and never treated.
Even more absurd were the notes listed under other diabetic,
had diarrhea, pneumonia, and a history of seizures. None of
it was true, and it could all be disproven easily
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with her prescription history, medical records, and care documentation, yet
it had been signed off and included in the official
record of her death. Then, on page three, a subtle
but potentially crucial piece of misinformation in the section labeled
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Circumstances of death, it stated that Crystal had been found
by Chuck Harris, which was true, but the report listed
Deputy Harris's home address as one four to three seven
Highway two, just one number off from Tony's address. That
was not the correct address for Deputy Chuck Harris. Was
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it a mistake or was it an attempt to imply
that Deputy Harris lived next door to Jones, thereby softening
the whole narrative that Tony hadn't showed up himself but
instead sent a coworker from right next door to check
on Crystal. Jana didn't have the answers, but she did
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have the documents, and now she had even more proof
that what she was being told and what was being
recorded were not the same. As Jana continued going through
the coroner's documents, she turned her attention to another part
of page three. Under the heading narrative Summary of Circumstances
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surrounding death, Coroner Lewis Carter stated that Deputy David Voight
was the only officer he interacted with at the scene.
No mention of anyone else, according to his accounts quote,
no slow hug to my knowledge, was recovered. This statement
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was in direct contradiction to the police report, which claimed
that the bullet fired from the gun had been recovered
while Carter was on the scene. Jana knew this wasn't
just a small clerical error. She had been there. She
had watched the coroner remove her sister's body from the
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house at exactly five forty two pm. She waited until
Crystal was brought out before she left the property. A
crime scene photo labeled victim twelve even showed a background
clock reading five twenty one pm, confirming the timeline. But
according to Tony's own Google location data, he left the
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scene at five fifty six pm. Yet the police report
claimed he didn't give his statement at the Sheriff's department
until six forty five. Almah an hour to drive twelve
point two miles, a trip that normally takes about fourteen minutes.
So what happened during that missing time? Adding to the confusion,
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photos of the bullet were labeled on the crime scene
disc as screenshot twenty twenty three O two ten and
screenshot twenty twenty three oh two fourteen. These weren't even
taken on the day Crystal died. They were screenshots taken
from a phone days after the crime scene had already
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been left unattended overnight. How could something as important as
the bullet that ended Crystal's life be discovered later, and
yet described in the report as if it had been
recovered while the coroner was still present. As usual, nothing
added up. May twenty third, twenty twenty three, an email
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came in from Carol Deer, chief civil deputy with West
Carroll Sheriff's Office. She said Sheriff Matthews had asked her
to forward a report from the crime lab to Jana.
It was the firearms analysis report, the very one Jana
had requested on May tenth from the North Louisiana Crime
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Lab in Shreveport. She had never filed a formal request
with the Sheriff's office, only with the lab itself. But
somehow it seemed like the Sheriff's office had received word
that she was asking questions. Coincidence maybe, but the dates
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on the report were fishy. As we close out Part four,
all of these things that Crystal's family faced weren't just
little errors. They were obstacles intentionally or just next diligently
put in their way, And the next and final episode,
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Part five, will continue to expose a system that is
currently failing Crystal to this day. Despite that, her light
will forever outshine their darkness. Be sure to sign the
petition in the show notes and support of reopening the
investigation into Crystal's death. Also, all of Jenna's social media
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accounts are linked in the show notes as well if
you'd like to follow along, support her through this tough journey,
and keep up with any new updates. As updates come in,
I'll compile them until I have enough information for many
episodes to keep you all informed as well. Thank you
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so much for listening. Until next time, friends, stay safe
and take care.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Thank you for listening to this episode.
Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
As we close out, let us not forget.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Awareness is our greatest defense in a world that can
be dark and grim. Vigilance is our beacon of hope
when it comes to the cases we have explored together
that have remained unsolved. If you happen to hold a
piece of the puzzle, there to step forward. As Arthur
Lois McMaster bouge Hold once said, the dead cannot cry
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out for justice. It is a duty of the living
to do so for them until we reconvene. My friends,
stay vigilant and stay informed.
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