February 26, 2025 • 49 mins
Join us on this exciting episode of Ride Home Rants as we welcome Tony Tortorici, a fierce competitor in the MMA world and the recent champion of Made Man Promotions. With a perfect record and replete with dedication, passion, and drive, Tony shares his unique journey from an aspiring fighter to a champion, encompassing the struggles, triumphs, and deep love for the fight game.
Listen as Tony dives into the nitty-gritty of training, the importance of wrestling as his foundation, and how mental preparation intertwines with physical readiness in combat sports. He explores the gritty realities of live fights and contrasts the thrill of watching the sport on-screen versus experiencing it from the front row. Learn about Tony's mindset regarding training camps and what it takes to recover successfully, especially as he faces the challenges of fighting later in life.
Through entertaining anecdotes, including some rapid-fire fun questions, Tony reveals his lighthearted side amidst the rigor of an athlete's life. You won't want to miss his hilarious preferences on things like snow days and childhood candy!
This episode carries a beautiful reminder that pursuing one's passion is not solely about victories; it's also about community, resilience in the face of adversity, and maintaining a lighthearted approach along the way. If you want to see what fuels a champion’s spirit and makes every fight worth fighting, listen now, and don’t forget to share your thoughts with us!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Ride Home
Rants podcast.
This is, as always, your host,mike Bono.
I have a great guest for ustoday.
He is a fighter fighting out ofthe Made man Promotions MMA.
We just got to see him a coupleweeks ago after this airs Fight
(00:22):
and win the championship at theMade man Promotions at the
Mountaineer Casino in Noel, westVirginia.
I am so pumped to talk to him.
But Tony, the Latin assassinTorlisi, joins the show.
Tony, thanks for joining,brother.
Thank you for having me.
Hey, not a problem man.
Yeah, I mean, like I wastelling everyone you know I was
(00:42):
at the fights, got to see youfight live win.
Yeah, I mean, like I wastelling everyone you know I was
at the fights, got to see youfight live, win the championship
.
I do forget, was it light,heavyweight or heavyweight that
you fight out of?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, that was light heavyweight, Light heavyweight
okay.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I couldn't remember what weight class they said you
were fighting out of, but, yeah,congratulations on that, and I
believe you just recentlyretired, but you retired with a
perfect record, if I remembercorrectly, and a championship
under your belt.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, yes, seven MMA fights, seven and oh, and I have
one Muay Thai fight.
So technically, if we do allcombatives, I'm eight and oh.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Eight and oh, that is impressive in any sport,
especially the MMA game and themixed martial arts game for sure
.
So kudos to you,congratulations.
It was an awesome fight.
Getting to see you in your lastbelt was amazing.
It was my first MMA fight thatI got to go and watch live.
(01:40):
My wife and I are huge mixedmartial arts fans.
Watch live.
Uh, my wife and I are hugemixed martial art fans.
I watch the ufc every saturday.
Uh fight nights and uh try toget any any pay-per-view that we
can if I don't have any shows.
And so to actually go and seeone live, it's for anybody out
there.
Uh, definitely put that on yourbucket list.
It is a whole differentexperience when you see it live
(02:00):
versus when watching it on tv.
But, um, you fight out ofKirkland, ohio, but for the most
people don't know that'sactually a suburb of the east
side of Cleveland, but is thatwhere you originally grew up?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I grew up in Euclid so I was a little closer to
Cleveland when I grew up.
So Okay, okay, not, yeah, Imean, there's so many suburbs of
cleveland, though, so yeah,euclid's more east side,
cleveland before you get towilloughby and wickliffe,
(02:34):
willowick and all that you'regonna run into euclid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't mind,we got.
We got a young kid coming tocheck his weight in one of the
yakabuchi boys.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
They're studs little stud wrestling.
Hey, no worries, I mean, fightgame doesn't stop for anybody.
I definitely understand that.
Um so how did you get into intomixed martial arts?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
um, I tried it out when I was 20, 21 years old and
then I uh, I had two kids at thetime, so I put that on hold.
I did like seven or eightmonths at a gym and I liked it.
I loved it, um, but I had toput it on hold and then, when I
was 33 or 32, one of the guys Igrew up wrestling in the
(03:21):
wrestling community messaged meneeding some help prepare for a
fight, and I'm like yo bud.
I'm like I have minimalexperience and he goes, I just
need your wrestling.
I'm like, okay, I wrestledsince I was four, so, okay, you
know, I have, uh, three juniorhigh state titles.
I have a freestyle statechampionship.
(03:42):
I wrestled for teamimo Heilmultiple times going to Fargo,
so he just needed my wrestlingand so I went and helped him.
He's like, hey, you might findsome success in this.
I was like, really, at 33?
.
He's like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was like okay, so I justwent for it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I mean I feel like anymore you don't see a lot
of fighters into their 30s.
Have you seen that just with?
You know the time that you'vebeen in mixed martial arts and
you know the combat sports ingeneral.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, but they're not making their debuts, their
anime debuts, if they're intheir 30s to mid to late 30s.
They usually have been pros fora long time.
So to me I think I've seen it'sbeen, it's been very rare to
watch someone make an Emmy debutat 33, 30, you know.
But it's done, it's being done,but it's just.
(04:38):
The career length tends to be alot shorter and instead of
someone starting at 21, 20 yearsold, uh, becoming a pro mid-20s
and then by the time they're 35, they've already have 10 years
as a pro.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
you know, that's a lot of time, that's a lot of
time, a lot, because I mean Isee these guys in the uc like
they're fighting and then, likea month, two later, they're back
in the ring again.
That to me is insane,especially some of the beatings
that some of these guys take,and then they're turning around
and they're fighting again.
Is that kind of typical for thefight game, where you see
(05:18):
fighters that are just eager toget back into the cage?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I train at Upgraded Industries and we have a handful
of fighters and they're alwaysitching to get back in.
They just had a fight.
They're coming in.
Let's say they fight on aSaturday, they're coming in
Monday, sometimes Sunday.
They're just getting a lightstretch sitting in the sauna.
I'm looking at it, I'm like Iwouldn't be here.
(05:47):
But yeah, they're itching toget back.
But I mean I've seen somefighters take a beating at
fights and then I see himfighting a month or two later.
I'm like wow.
But I mean that's how you haveto be.
You have to be very active.
The more experience you have,the better.
I mean that's how you have tobe.
You have to be very active.
Um, the more experience youhave, the better.
So if you can, if you'rehealthy enough to fight, I
(06:10):
suggest that you fight as oftenas possible, especially in the
Emmys.
That is your experience, that'syour gauge, that's that's
everything you're going to needto go pro is your amp Emmy
career.
It just sets everything up andthen you know, when you go pro,
then it's a little more serious,as in your record and you know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Finishing fights of that sort that's you know
becomes very apparent that youneed to do yeah I, I relate to
that a lot because, you know, asa comedian, you know people see
the finished product of theseguys that are getting Netflix
and now Hulu and Amazon Primespecials and all that.
They don't see all the we'llcall it amateur for sake of
(06:52):
argument, but the open micnights in bars that these guys
are doing and that I've beendoing for 13 years Still going
to bars and doing an open micnight to work out a joke, going
to bars and doing, you know, anopen mic night to work out a
joke, that's my gym is gettinginto just something, just to
tell the joke in front of people.
Because I can sit here and writejokes all day and think, oh
well, this is hysterical, andthen you tell it to a room of
(07:14):
people and it's crickets.
You know, you gotta find a wayto find a way to work it out.
And that is our gym uh, forlack of a better term and our
amateur, uh, fight style too, aswell as comedian, and it's just
, it's a grind though, but youknow it's not something like
that.
But I see fighters, I mean, andI I've taken a little bit of
(07:36):
martial arts when I was ateenager in Taekwondo, do you
see a lot of different fightstyles where you fight out of,
or is it mostly now more peopleare going to like the Muay Thai
and Jiu-Jitsu?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So our gym is very wrestling based.
Tj the owner, the head MMA guy,the boss here.
He wrestled back in the day.
Then he's trained at StrongStyle.
He's fought.
He's a black belt now inJiu-Jitsu.
(08:13):
Our gym is very heavy wrestlingbased.
We have a lot of great boxingcoaches, so we're building up to
it.
I would say I probably have thebased Um.
We have a lot of great boxingcoaches, so we're building up to
it.
Um, we have a lot of.
Actually, I would say Iprobably have the worst hands
(08:33):
out of everyone, um.
So we got a bunch.
We got a handful of fighters.
All their hands are way betterthan mine.
So I don't know if it's becauseI'm old and I couldn't like
pick it up as good as them, butthey're definitely way better up
as good as them, but they'redefinitely way better.
We got a couple judo guys here,um, so that helps, um.
But yeah, a lot of other gymsare.
I, from what I see, a lot ofmuay thai, a lot of stand up.
(08:54):
I would say yeah, um, I preferwrestling as my strength and
incorporating the striking intomy takedowns just works better
for me, since I don't have thegreatest stand up, as you would
say but I can take you down andthen it builds from there.
(09:14):
But yeah, I see a lot ofstrikers, a lot of great
strikers out there.
Um, actually I think yeah.
So I don't know if you everheard of them, but Cage Thunder
is another promotion and I saw aboxer.
He's actually a solid boxer andhe came in to make his MMA debut
and he got slapped in like 20seconds, and I'm talking, he got
(09:40):
caught and face down.
I was like, oh wow, so strikingis huge, but you but
incorporating takedowns,wrestling jiu-jitsu that's where
it's got to be, but I do see alot of boxing and Muay Thai guys
out there.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I was going to say for you to say that your hands
aren't that good from what I sawlive.
If there's guys better than you, I'd be afraid of anybody
coming out of your gym withStrike 8 because your stand-up
looked on point when I got tosee Saturday Night at
Mountaineer.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I appreciate that I really do.
That really makes my daybecause, honestly, I'm the worst
out of all of them with thehands.
They they're ronalds, chris,anthony, even holly she's making
her debut next weekend.
Their heads are phenomenal andfor you to say that just it just
(10:38):
makes me so happy.
I'm gonna go tell them later onand they're gonna tell me to
shut up because they are,they're really great.
I mean, chris.
Chris has a title, actually heowns, he has the made men's one,
85 title now.
Okay, yeah.
So he fought at Mountaineer afew months ago and he wanted
that was a dog fight.
(10:59):
He's, he's great.
He's been part of my camp sinceday one.
He's great.
He's been part of my camp sinceday one.
All-american wrestler, purplebelt in jiu-jitsu and his boxing
is phenomenal.
His kickboxing is phenomenal.
He goes out to Hawaii everyonce in a while to train with I
don't know their name, but thefamily, the son one of the
(11:20):
fighters is a welterweight andmiddleweight champ for one
fighting championship.
So they're solid and he justcomes back with a wealth of
knowledge.
We got Ron, who hits like aMack truck and he floats just on
the mat.
He just floats, he just he'llkick you twice, punch you three
times.
You're like where'd that comefrom?
(11:40):
And you got Anthony Prosley.
He's, technically, he's mycousin.
So, okay, we have family beefsometimes, but we settle it okay
now he's a good guy.
He has hands, he just that boy.
He hits.
He fights 160 but he hits likea 230 pounder.
He just he just knocks people.
(12:01):
I, I think he's, he's eight, no, as well, but in a kickboxing I
think he's seven known andkickboxing Muay Thai and one or
no.
In MMA he's.
He's a stud.
And Holly's making her debutand I'll say it on here right
now Uh, a lot of us are inagreement that she probably has
the best boxing on the team.
(12:22):
She's just, she's looking atChris and looking.
I'm really looking forward toher debut coming up.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm definitely going to have tocheck that out for sure,
because we've had other combatfighters on here who are MMA or
pro boxing realm.
Do you think that MMA fighterswho come into the sport with
some type of background, um,have a better chance to make it
(12:51):
further in their mma uh career,you know, such as martial arts,
wrestling or boxing?
I mean, do they have a leg upon everybody or is it more just
your camps that you go throughto really show the success?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Like I said, my strong style is wrestling.
If you could stop my takedowns,if you could stop my advances
on the ground when we get there,which becomes jujitsu at that
point, when we get to the ground, then we can work on the hands
and stuff, like you know.
So, honestly, I will be biasedabout wrestling, right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's better to have a wrestler turn to boxer,
kickboxer, jujitsu guy, then aboxer to like wrestling jujitsu.
But honestly, I've seen a tonof people that might have
strictly boxing come in and pickup wrestling very easily.
(13:48):
And then I've seen wrestlerscome in and have great boxing,
kickboxing, five, six monthsinto coming to the gym.
I'm like whoa.
And then I see someone who'snever done anything like that.
For instance, my buddy, zachBerkey, came in.
I think he played the cross anda couple other sports, but
(14:10):
nothing like wrestling.
And he's phenomenal in BJJ he's, he's one of the you know, but
he's a stud, you know, he justhe comes in and competes, he
trains all the time.
Um, but I would say wrestling.
But I can't, I don't know.
For me it was wrestling.
For me it worked.
(14:32):
For me Wrestling was my firstlove in sports, so that would be
my guess.
But I'm sure anyone coming inwith any kind of combatives,
whether it's Taekwondo, muayThai, boxing, anything like that
, coming into MMA, they have aleg up on someone who's just
totally coming in, not competingat all, like that, just because
(14:53):
the adrenaline dump the nerves,the camps.
You've already been throughsomething like that before so
you can kind of understandwhat's to come yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Just I would have to agree with the wrestling because
, like I said, I have a blackbelt in Taekwondo and I remember
for like a month straight, likeevery wednesday, they had, uh,
someone from jujitsu come in andit was strictly jujitsu class
day and learning the advances onthe ground.
And it's a lot tougher thanlike people see like oh, it
(15:30):
looks like they're just layingon each other, like there's a
lot of work going into trying toadvance your position.
And a lot of us were strugglingat like that first week, like
trying to figure out like we'reused to standing up, we're not
used to being on the ground, andnow it's a completely different
world when you're down there.
And yeah, it took us, it tookus all a while to to get to it.
(15:54):
So I give anybody who can dojujitsu and ground work a ton of
credit, because I did it for amonth and I was just like I
don't, I don't know if this is,I can't, I'm not good on the
ground.
One, I'm six five and likethat's tough enough as it is.
But you know, I wasn't always.
I was a 155 or so, okay at sixfive.
(16:15):
You know that that's, that'sskin and bones.
It looks like it's pretty skinny, so uh, not so much anymore now
that I'm getting older.
I wouldn't be.
I wouldn't be in your weightclass at 205.
So, um, still look worldsdifferent compared to you, but
still, I also have livedbasically in bars for the past
(16:38):
13 years being a comedian, sothat doesn't it's not good
weight.
Let's put it that way well,yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean, that's how this fight came about, really my
last fight.
It's just hard finding fights,so you know, like, oh, when's
the next one, don't know.
People said no Fights fellthrough.
So I'm like, let's turn pro.
That fell through.
And then this opportunity cameup and me and a few buddies and
(17:07):
the gym owner were out in Cantonwatching Alonzo Turner fight
and the gym owner were out inCanton watching Alonzo Turner
fight.
And Alonzo Turner is a greatpro fighter out of the
Revolution fight team out inEuclid or Cleveland and we
cross-trained with them and hecomes over and he helps me a lot
and he was out there fightingand obviously, when I'm not in
(17:31):
camp I'm drinking.
Especially at a fight, I'mdrinking and we we had some.
We had a bit of drinks and Isaw the matchmaker and I was
like I'll take the fight.
And she's like are you serious?
I'm like, yes, 100 percent.
And I think two days later shesent me the contract.
I'm like, oh shit, this isreally going to happen.
Two days later she sent me thecontract.
I'm like, oh shit, this isreally going to happen.
(17:54):
And I sent it to my coach, theowner, my buddies, and they're
like, oh, wow, yeah, it's reallyhappening.
I'm like, yep, here we go.
And it's like yeah you know,that's what got me into the
situation for the last one,which it was a good situation.
I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, came away with a title.
That's a good day at the office.
You know what I mean and so youknow.
Former guests of the show.
Dr Roger Wang.
How did you guys meet?
Is it more through His work ordid you know him Previously?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
When I started training at Upgraded I had my
right arm, so I can't straightenmy right arm All the way, it's
stuck.
If arm all the way and that'sstuck, I mean, if you can see it
like that's it right there,that's about as straight as it
gets compared to my left yeah soit was really bad.
I couldn't cover my face.
Uh, dj was like get your handsup.
(18:47):
I'm like I can't.
He's like you mean, I'm like Ican't touch my right hand in my
face.
So I couldn't.
So when I first started havinga lot of issues covering my face
, anytime you would hit it backor touch it, it would go dead,
shooting pain, and then it wouldgo dead for five, 10 seconds.
I couldn't pick it up, Icouldn't throw a punch.
So he's like I got this guy.
(19:14):
He's a chiropractor.
I'm like oh, I lovechiropractors.
My neighbor used to be achiropractor, dr William Buster.
He used to be one.
I love him.
They just help with my body.
I said give him a shout, I'lllet him know you're coming.
I'm like okay, I met Roger.
I went on the Matrix Arms,started feeling great.
So now I can touch my face.
See, that's my right arm,that's the bus, that's the one
(19:36):
that is straight.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's the one that is straight.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I could touch my face with it before I was out here,
like three inches away from myface.
Um so he, I went to him and Inever stopped, never stopped.
He has a decompression table.
Works wonders on my neck andback.
Uh, the matrix is like, I guess, how do you put it?
(19:58):
Uh, tins unit on steroids it,just it's amazing.
And then he has a soft way ofthis machine.
It's supposed to help stimulatecells and help the rebuilding
process.
With all that, he kept me infighting shape.
So I met him through the gymand I just never stopped going.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, I mean, roger is phenomenal and I didn't even
know he was there and he was theformer guest in the show and,
honestly, you know, standing inline it's kind of a funny story
and I was.
I was just kind of looking athim and he was talking to
somebody else.
Like that guy looks familiar.
Why does he look so familiar?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm talking to my wife about it.
I was like I think that's Rogerand I pulled up my phone and I
pulled up his Instagram.
I was trying to pull up apicture of him to kind of like,
look and see, and my wife waslike you know what I'm not
(20:54):
playing?
This game was on near seasonone.
You know we're in season fiveof the show now, awesome, yeah.
So you know, and it was just,it was nice to see you know and
get to have that moment with theanother former guest, because
you know I follow everybody thatcomes on the show and you know,
keep up, keep up with them ifyou know, whatever they're doing
(21:14):
and you know I see projectsconstantly posting stuff all the
while.
But you know it was, it wasjust a surreal, but it was one
of those moments like I was justlooking at him.
He looks so familiar and Icouldn't put my finger on it.
Yep, that's Roger.
There he is at a fight.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Of course he's at a fight.
Of course he's at a fight.
You know he works with a lot offighters oh yeah, he's uh,
dissenters of america and it's.
They kept my body right, I meanfrom when I had acl surgery.
Um, that's when he startedgetting a soft wave.
So we do all everythingpossible to try to, you know,
keep me because I'm gettingolder.
Right, you get older.
Things take longer to recover,to heal up, and I'm like I still
want to fight.
(21:54):
I only did the surgery becauseno one wanted to fight.
And I'm like, well, I've beenfighting on this completely torn
ACL for three years now.
I'm like no one wants to fight.
I have a bug attack on themeniscus, a partially torn MCL.
I'm like, well, let's just dothe surgery.
And my coach was like, well,wow, he's like I guess you are
(22:16):
getting wise.
I was like, well, I mean, Idon't have anything else going
on, so let's do it.
So we did it and Roger was ahuge part of that recovery, just
with the soft wave and I wasadjusting me, just because, you
know, I didn't walk, I couldn'tdo anything for about 10 weeks,
so just my back and my neck andjust I just felt real lopsided
(22:38):
because I just you know I wasright Just at one leg, yeah,
he's.
I mean, it's been plenty oftimes I get hurt and I call him
like, hey, roger, you busytomorrow, are you busy right now
?
And he's like, hey, roger, youbusy tomorrow, are you busy
right now?
He's like, oh no, I'm just Onetime, because he has a shop in
(22:59):
Willoughby and he was almosthome and he lives like 45
minutes away.
He was almost home and I calledhim and said, hey, please, my
back and my rib I think itpopped out Are you on your way
Pass.
He turned around.
He come back and do all that.
I felt so bad because he'scoming back a half hour to drive
(23:23):
another half hour.
I have all love and respect forhim and so appreciative that
he's kept my body healthy likethis.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Absolutely, just with talking to him, so appreciative
that he's kept my body healthylike this.
Yeah, absolutely, you know I,yeah, yeah, just with talking to
him on here and keeping up withhim, you know, as best I can
via social media and everythinglike that.
I mean he's, he's doing goodthings and you know I'm proud
for him and you know, and you aswell, but you know you fighting
at mountaineer uh casino, youknow, can you talk about?
You know what you did.
What was your training camplike?
You talk about what you did.
(23:52):
What was your training camplike?
You talked about a little bitof how you got the fight.
What was your training camplike and how did you prepare for
this fight?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I work 860 Laborers Union so I do a lot of
construction.
That's usually my training everyday.
We've been slow, so I wouldcome in and do a lot of
grappling rounds with whoeverwas available.
What's that?
Alonzo Turner would come in, alot of wrestlers would come in
(24:23):
and we would do what you wouldcall a gauntlet kind of thing
Situational 45 minutes straight.
I would just get mulled, then Iwould get my sparring in.
Um, I don't really run too much.
I don't know if I should saythat on here, because I see
people running miles and milesand miles and they're like what
(24:44):
do you run?
I'm like, uh, you know five,ten minutes to warm up.
They're like what?
Like, yeah, you know, I to me,I'm a very big believer on, if
you're gonna wrestle, you shouldto be in wrestling shape.
You need to wrestle.
Yeah, that makes sense fightingshape to get your sparring
rounds and your grappling roundsin.
(25:05):
Do your mma rounds.
You know you do five, fiveminute rounds in mma and you got
a fresh guy coming in eachround.
You know it's gonna help.
But these technique rounds,those helps.
So I did a lot of grappling umsparring.
I'm older so I think I did oncea week I did a hard spar and
then 200 times.
So the week I did a lot offlowy sparring um, a lot of mitt
(25:27):
work.
You and I didn't have to cutany weight so I had to eat
whatever I wanted.
A lot of steak, a lot of steakum, huge steak yeah, I would get
like a porterhouse and stufflike that.
So a lot of food.
That was big in this camp.
A lot of food, um, yeah, andjust getting pushed to the max
(25:50):
by these guys.
I was exhausted every time.
So I might be eight no, on thebooks but I lose.
Every day in here that I comein here and train, I literally I
lose.
These guys are great and theyjust beat the tar out of me and
I don't feel like I win anything.
I okay, let me take that.
(26:11):
If I escape something and if Iget out of something.
I'm like that's a win.
You know what I mean.
That's a dub for me with theseguys.
But yeah, just breaking it upto where my body stayed healthy,
seeing Roger two, three times aweek eating, mentally,
(26:31):
preparing, uh, and I, uh, chris,draggy and alonzo um, this was
a big part that I never reallytalked about too much but it to
me it helped out a lot.
Was they preached a word?
Um, so I had a bible and I putit in my truck.
(26:52):
So whenever I would have abreak or something, I'm like, oh
, what am I doing?
Waiting on my kids to, you know, get out the house with their
clothes.
I can take them somewhere, reada little scripture, a little
prayer.
I don't do it every day, so I'mnot gonna be like, oh, every
day I was doing this.
No, I, I started a habit ofjust doing these things, not
(27:13):
every day, but it helps clear mymind.
But I think reading thescripture and talking to them
about it helps out a lot with mymental state this time.
Um, so, scripture, training,eating and, uh, you know that
was from roger, that was my campand uh, very happy, it all
(27:35):
worked out because you know,like I said, I'm gonna be 38, so
we had to find a, a routinethat worked best can't be too
sore, because it takes my bodylonger to recover.
What are the steps of recoverythat I was doing?
So it's basically just justgetting in shape and recovering.
You already know how to fight,you know.
You know can't teach an old dognew tricks.
(27:56):
I guess you want to say yeah,but make sure that I'm in shape,
because if I'm in shape theneverything should fall into
place.
So that's basically making sureI'm in shape, staying healthy
mentally and physically.
And I got the flu actually aweek and a half before this
fight, which sucked because Iwas two, 12 and after the flow I
(28:20):
was the first two days I slept44 hours.
So at a 48 hours I slept 44.
I didn't eat for four days, soI was one 98.
When I stepped on the scale Iwas like, oh wow, I'm way
underweight, so trying to get myweight back up.
But yeah, that was it.
That was training camp a lot ofgrappling rounds, one hard
(28:42):
sparring round, two lightsparring rounds, scripture and
seeing my kids.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, see, you mentioned something there
because I was never a big, youknow, and seeing my kids, you
know, that's, that was it.
Yeah, See, you mentionedsomething there.
Cause I was never a big runnerwhen I was, you know, in sports,
you know, and played football,you know it's running all day
and but I was also a swimmer tooas well.
So no running at all there, butour coach in college always
(29:13):
would make us go and run laps.
It's like this.
It's not going to build theright cardio that I need to go
out there and sprint a 50 or 100I agree like yeah, you know,
let me do these laps in the pool, let me get into swimming shape
(29:34):
Because they give us theChristmas break off.
So basically all of December incollege we had off, but we had
to be back January 2nd or 3rd,back on campus and back in the
pool and working out.
Again.
It's the holidays.
Nobody was staying in shape.
(29:55):
Nobody was going to their localYMCA and swimming over
Christmas break or doing anytype of workouts over Christmas
break.
I come from a full-bloodedItalian family.
I did nothing but eat allDecember and then I had to come
back and get it back intoswimming shape because it was
coming down near the last littlesprint to our season and then
(30:16):
conference championships.
It was because we're going torun why I can see getting into
the weight room.
I can understand that, but wedon't need to run to do this.
All this is going to do is putmore pressure on our knees and
our joints and make those sore.
Let us get into the pool, wherethere's no contact on that, and
(30:39):
we'll get back into swimmingshape.
I fought him all of January.
Every time he made us run Everytime.
So I get it with.
You know, get your cardio indoing what you're going to be
doing, and I think that thatworks out a lot better.
But yeah, that's, that's justme.
But what do I know?
I'm still an up-and-comingcomedian, so you know you're
(31:00):
right, I agree.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean like the best right.
I mean I did other things, soswimming actually I used to swim
all the time as a crosstraining.
My dad got me into that becauseit's easier on the joint, but
yeah you're still gonna burn thelungs and you use different
muscles absolutely, so I waslike oh I was lucky enough that.
(31:22):
So in euclid my dad reached outto the mayor, um and a school
board to see if I could get intosenior swims in the morning.
So I would get up at four inthe morning every other day, or
in the morning, eat breakfast,be at senior swim excuse me, by
5.
I am swimming, do my workout,be done by six, 15.
(31:45):
Shower and then go to school.
So swimming was a huge part ofthat.
And then obviously I wasyounger and I would go run six
miles, even in the snow.
I used to think of, uh, oh mygosh, what is it?
I would always think aboutRocky.
Rocky running in the mountainand then, um, there's this.
I'm drawing a blank, butthere's this old school
(32:07):
wrestling movie.
Um, man, I can't believe, Ican't remember it, but one of
the scenes is the guy holding alog on his shoulder and he's
just like marching through thesnow, or he's like just using it
walking out the bleachers.
So my dad would do silly stufflike that.
(32:27):
Cross-country skiing was also adifferent form of cardio that
he put me through.
There are people likecross-country skiing.
I'm okay.
You ever go up the hill just tocome down the hill and go for
three, four hours at a time,like that's a lot of cardio.
But you got swimming.
Oh, I got so lucky I was, I gotlucky to swim.
(32:48):
There was this old timer therehe was, I think the guy that was
the lifeguard said he was like88 years old, done senior
olympics, all that stuff.
He was my gauge on how good Iwas, or my cardio, because when
I first got in there, not goodat all.
I mean, try to sprint for 30seconds in a pool, right, yeah,
(33:09):
just freestyle it all the waydown the bank.
Yeah, I'm good.
Oh, that was 10 seconds.
What so?
You gotta?
You got to.
You know.
Oh, man, this guy would gononstop the whole time and I was
so appreciative because he blewme out of the water in the
beginning and then at the veryend, when it came down to crunch
time for States or Nationals, Iwas keeping up with him.
(33:32):
He came in the locker and hejust shook my hand and smiled
and said good job.
I kept up with him that day andthat's when I knew that I was
in great shape.
Because this guy was inphenomenal shape.
Swimming has a, it's here.
It's great for me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I loved it.
It wasn't for an unfortunateinjury.
It it wasn't for an unfortunateinjury Back in high school
playing football, knowing I hadscholarships on the table for
swimming.
It separated my shoulder Senioryear of high school and it
still clicks and pops today.
But I lost my senior swimseason in high school.
(34:15):
Luckily, bethany College kepttheir scholarship for me so I
could still go and swim afterrehab and everything like that
and got to swim in college.
But I still remember I had aton of buddies that went there
that played football and theywould rag on me all the time oh,
you're a swimmer, you know yoursport's not that tough, blah,
blah, blah.
And I was like, all right, whydon't we get settled in the pool
(34:38):
?
That, if my sport's not thattough, you're in the middle of
your season.
Yeah, you should be able to domy workout then, right, right.
And we got into the pool and wegot through the warm-up portion
of it.
He was like, oh man, that wasintense.
I was like like that is to getus ready for what we're about to
do.
So if you think that's tough,you're in for a treat.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Um, so yeah, swimming doesn't get the credit that I I
think it deserves it doesn't,it's, it's great cross and that
actually an injury, got me toswimming.
Uh, so I tore I don't even knowthe muscles in the back, but
right there where the shoulderblade and all that was, and you
know it just got caught and I Itore part of it so I couldn't
(35:25):
wrestle for a little bit.
So I was younger, so everythingheals faster.
So it was about a month but alot of swimming to rehab it.
And all that because I was like, damn well, what do you do for
this?
Like well, you just rehab it.
Like, how do you do that swim?
My dad's like, okay, yeah, Ilike it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It just definitely doesn't get the respect that it
deserves yeah, for sure, um, butgetting getting back on track,
you know, you know, besides themountaineer casino, uh, that you
read, have you found any otherunique places like that, or was
that kind of the most uniquevenue that you've been at in
your fighting career?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So I have three fights under the Mountaineer and
three under Ohio Combat League.
They all were actually prettycool venues.
I think the biggest venue andthe coolest one was in Columbus
for OCO.
It was my third fight.
We had a lot of technicaldifficulties so we didn't have a
(36:22):
walkout song.
You're kind of like trying toplay stuff in your head.
That venue was really nice.
I can't remember exactly whereit was, but it's huge, it was
nice.
And then we fought at the EuclidSports Plant.
That was the made men's one.
I like that brings back oldmemories.
I used to train up there when Iwas a kid.
Ocl's Newark, ohio, the onethat they had there.
(36:49):
That's always a nice venue.
But oh, I also fought at theHollywood Casino for ocl.
That was my fifth fight.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that was forthe.
That was two weeks, so I havefour titles 170 for made men's.
And then two weeks later Ifought for ocl, got a 185 belt
(37:13):
there.
And then I fought a year laterin October for Made Men's and
got their 185 belt.
And then I just fought for MadeMen's again and got their 205.
So they all have very sweetmemories to me.
(37:33):
But if I want to go, it has tobe made Ben's, because I mean
I've stayed at the casino there.
I played the casino there, thefood was great, everything was
pretty close and I mean youcan't really beat winning a
(37:53):
title there, so yeah definitelywinning a title there.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Definitely winning a title would be definitely up
there on most special venuesthat you've fought at here.
Tony, we're all running downhere near the end of the show
here, but I do need to get thissegment in For the usual
listeners.
You'll know what this segmentis For the new listeners out
there.
This is the Fast Fitty Five.
(38:18):
Five random questions from thewonderful manager of the podcast
, johnny Fitty Falcone, and ifanybody knows Fitty, these are
the most random questions thatyou could possibly get.
He sent these to me today,though, tony, so I don't get to
see these before we, um, we, weair the show and I think it's
(38:39):
because he sometimes he tries tomake me laugh, but these are
kind of rapid fire questions,but you can elaborate if you
need to.
So if you are ready to tacklethem, that's 25, all right.
Question number one what is thebest color of Skittles to eat?
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I like the yellow ones.
It's not yellow.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Not a bad choice.
Question number two Sled ridingor building a snowman which is
a better snow day activity?
Sled riding, Sled riding yeah,that was up for you.
I think I don't know who savedSnowman with slut rottings on
the table.
Question number three what isthe most overrated fast food
restaurant in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Oh my god, what is it ?
All of them, they all suck.
Oh jeez, what is it.
Oh my god, what is it?
Swanson's, I want to say theonly one I've been to has been
not great.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, yeah, question number four Better action movie
actor Chuck Norris or StevenSeagal?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Chuck Norris, no one's going to pick Steven
Seagal.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, I don't know why yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
And last but not least, question number five what
does the movie well, no sorry,where does the movie the Titanic
rank an all-time best moviesever, in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
In my opinion.
I mean, it's a classic.
I'll say top 10 just becauseit's a classic.
My sister loves it, my momloves it.
You know it's a love story.
I guess, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I say it's a tragedy because all the men died.
But you know, it's definitelytragedy because all the men died
.
But you know, yeah, it's, it'sdefinitely a classic, it's
definitely up there, for sure.
But that was the Fast 85.
I feel like he took it easy onyou, though, for these questions
you can hit me with any morequestions you want because he
normally has like these most.
(40:55):
When I say these are randomquestions, there was one that
still sticks out to me.
It was alright, you're trappedin a racquetball court and
you're in there.
It's you, conor McGregor,batman and a black bear who
comes out a lot.
It's like those types ofquestions that he comes up with.
(41:15):
Batman, yeah, comes out a lot.
It's those types of questionsthat he comes up with.
Batman yeah, I think the guestthat question was on said Batman
as well.
So that's definitely yeah, butstill, yeah, that's some of the
types of questions that he comesup with for this segment.
That's just the way Johnny'smind works.
(41:38):
But, like I said, tony, we'rerunning down near the end of the
episode.
I give every guest thisopportunity at the end of the
show.
So if there's anything you wantto get out there, whether it's
for your gym I know you recentlyjust retired from fighting, so
no fights coming up If there'sanything you want to get out
there, or even if it's just agood message, I'm going to give
you about a minute, man, and thefloor is yours All right, cool
(41:59):
Descendants of America.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Roger Wong just kept me fighting as long as I have.
Appreciate it.
Evolution, painting andRestoration.
Sorry, you can't see that's mybuddy's place.
He paints.
He does a great job.
My training partners ChrisAlonzo, ronald Anthony, dj you
(42:23):
know all you know coming up hereto Upgraded Industries and you
know you all helped me get towhere I am today and I
appreciate it.
Love you guys.
I appreciate you guys having meon here and, in all honesty,
without the Lord and all that,none of this is possible.
So he gets the most praise ofthem all.
(42:45):
So I appreciate it.
Guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Not a problem at all.
Anthony, thank you for comingon, and I love it when guests
have a good message at the endof the show.
I'm all for helping peoplepromote stuff and what they got
going on, but when it's a goodmessage like that at the end, I
love them to show.
That way.
That's definitely a great wayto end the show.
And that is going to do it forthis week's episode of the ride
home rants podcast.
Again, I want to thank theLatin assassin for joining the
(43:12):
show here tonight.
It was a lot of fun to get totalk to you, talk about your
fighting career and everythinglike that.
For sure, everybody go checkout Made man Promotions if you
can anywhere.
It is a phenomenal fight cardEvery time I've seen it and a
lot of great fighters on therethat I think you'll enjoy.
But, as always, if you enjoyedthe show, be a friend, tell a
(43:35):
friend.
If you didn't tell them anyways, they might like it just
because you didn't.
That's going to do it for meand I will see y'all next week.
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Ride Home
Rants podcast.
This is, as always, your host,mike Bono.
I have a great guest for ustoday.
He is a fighter fighting out ofthe Made man Promotions MMA.
We just got to see him a coupleweeks ago after this airs Fight
(00:22):
and win the championship at theMade man Promotions at the
Mountaineer Casino in Noel, westVirginia.
I am so pumped to talk to him.
But Tony, the Latin assassinTorlisi, joins the show.
Tony, thanks for joining,brother.
Thank you for having me.
Hey, not a problem man.
Yeah, I mean, like I wastelling everyone you know I was
(00:42):
at the fights, got to see youfight live win.
Yeah, I mean, like I wastelling everyone you know I was
at the fights, got to see youfight live, win the championship
.
I do forget, was it light,heavyweight or heavyweight that
you fight out of?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, that was light heavyweight, Light heavyweight
okay.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I couldn't remember what weight class they said you
were fighting out of, but, yeah,congratulations on that, and I
believe you just recentlyretired, but you retired with a
perfect record, if I remembercorrectly, and a championship
under your belt.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, yes, seven MMA fights, seven and oh, and I have
one Muay Thai fight.
So technically, if we do allcombatives, I'm eight and oh.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Eight and oh, that is impressive in any sport,
especially the MMA game and themixed martial arts game for sure
.
So kudos to you,congratulations.
It was an awesome fight.
Getting to see you in your lastbelt was amazing.
It was my first MMA fight thatI got to go and watch live.
(01:40):
My wife and I are huge mixedmartial arts fans.
Watch live.
Uh, my wife and I are hugemixed martial art fans.
I watch the ufc every saturday.
Uh fight nights and uh try toget any any pay-per-view that we
can if I don't have any shows.
And so to actually go and seeone live, it's for anybody out
there.
Uh, definitely put that on yourbucket list.
It is a whole differentexperience when you see it live
(02:00):
versus when watching it on tv.
But, um, you fight out ofKirkland, ohio, but for the most
people don't know that'sactually a suburb of the east
side of Cleveland, but is thatwhere you originally grew up?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I grew up in Euclid so I was a little closer to
Cleveland when I grew up.
So Okay, okay, not, yeah, Imean, there's so many suburbs of
cleveland, though, so yeah,euclid's more east side,
cleveland before you get towilloughby and wickliffe,
(02:34):
willowick and all that you'regonna run into euclid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't mind,we got.
We got a young kid coming tocheck his weight in one of the
yakabuchi boys.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
They're studs little stud wrestling.
Hey, no worries, I mean, fightgame doesn't stop for anybody.
I definitely understand that.
Um so how did you get into intomixed martial arts?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
um, I tried it out when I was 20, 21 years old and
then I uh, I had two kids at thetime, so I put that on hold.
I did like seven or eightmonths at a gym and I liked it.
I loved it, um, but I had toput it on hold and then, when I
was 33 or 32, one of the guys Igrew up wrestling in the
(03:21):
wrestling community messaged meneeding some help prepare for a
fight, and I'm like yo bud.
I'm like I have minimalexperience and he goes, I just
need your wrestling.
I'm like, okay, I wrestledsince I was four, so, okay, you
know, I have, uh, three juniorhigh state titles.
I have a freestyle statechampionship.
(03:42):
I wrestled for teamimo Heilmultiple times going to Fargo,
so he just needed my wrestlingand so I went and helped him.
He's like, hey, you might findsome success in this.
I was like, really, at 33?
.
He's like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was like okay, so I justwent for it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I mean I feel like anymore you don't see a lot
of fighters into their 30s.
Have you seen that just with?
You know the time that you'vebeen in mixed martial arts and
you know the combat sports ingeneral.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, but they're not making their debuts, their
anime debuts, if they're intheir 30s to mid to late 30s.
They usually have been pros fora long time.
So to me I think I've seen it'sbeen, it's been very rare to
watch someone make an Emmy debutat 33, 30, you know.
But it's done, it's being done,but it's just.
(04:38):
The career length tends to be alot shorter and instead of
someone starting at 21, 20 yearsold, uh, becoming a pro mid-20s
and then by the time they're 35, they've already have 10 years
as a pro.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
you know, that's a lot of time, that's a lot of
time, a lot, because I mean Isee these guys in the uc like
they're fighting and then, likea month, two later, they're back
in the ring again.
That to me is insane,especially some of the beatings
that some of these guys take,and then they're turning around
and they're fighting again.
Is that kind of typical for thefight game, where you see
(05:18):
fighters that are just eager toget back into the cage?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I train at Upgraded Industries and we have a handful
of fighters and they're alwaysitching to get back in.
They just had a fight.
They're coming in.
Let's say they fight on aSaturday, they're coming in
Monday, sometimes Sunday.
They're just getting a lightstretch sitting in the sauna.
I'm looking at it, I'm like Iwouldn't be here.
(05:47):
But yeah, they're itching toget back.
But I mean I've seen somefighters take a beating at
fights and then I see himfighting a month or two later.
I'm like wow.
But I mean that's how you haveto be.
You have to be very active.
The more experience you have,the better.
I mean that's how you have tobe.
You have to be very active.
Um, the more experience youhave, the better.
So if you can, if you'rehealthy enough to fight, I
(06:10):
suggest that you fight as oftenas possible, especially in the
Emmys.
That is your experience, that'syour gauge, that's that's
everything you're going to needto go pro is your amp Emmy
career.
It just sets everything up andthen you know, when you go pro,
then it's a little more serious,as in your record and you know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Finishing fights of that sort that's you know
becomes very apparent that youneed to do yeah I, I relate to
that a lot because, you know, asa comedian, you know people see
the finished product of theseguys that are getting Netflix
and now Hulu and Amazon Primespecials and all that.
They don't see all the we'llcall it amateur for sake of
(06:52):
argument, but the open micnights in bars that these guys
are doing and that I've beendoing for 13 years Still going
to bars and doing an open micnight to work out a joke, going
to bars and doing, you know, anopen mic night to work out a
joke, that's my gym is gettinginto just something, just to
tell the joke in front of people.
Because I can sit here and writejokes all day and think, oh
well, this is hysterical, andthen you tell it to a room of
(07:14):
people and it's crickets.
You know, you gotta find a wayto find a way to work it out.
And that is our gym uh, forlack of a better term and our
amateur, uh, fight style too, aswell as comedian, and it's just
, it's a grind though, but youknow it's not something like
that.
But I see fighters, I mean, andI I've taken a little bit of
(07:36):
martial arts when I was ateenager in Taekwondo, do you
see a lot of different fightstyles where you fight out of,
or is it mostly now more peopleare going to like the Muay Thai
and Jiu-Jitsu?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So our gym is very wrestling based.
Tj the owner, the head MMA guy,the boss here.
He wrestled back in the day.
Then he's trained at StrongStyle.
He's fought.
He's a black belt now inJiu-Jitsu.
(08:13):
Our gym is very heavy wrestlingbased.
We have a lot of great boxingcoaches, so we're building up to
it.
I would say I probably have thebased Um.
We have a lot of great boxingcoaches, so we're building up to
it.
Um, we have a lot of.
Actually, I would say Iprobably have the worst hands
(08:33):
out of everyone, um.
So we got a bunch.
We got a handful of fighters.
All their hands are way betterthan mine.
So I don't know if it's becauseI'm old and I couldn't like
pick it up as good as them, butthey're definitely way better up
as good as them, but they'redefinitely way better.
We got a couple judo guys here,um, so that helps, um.
But yeah, a lot of other gymsare.
I, from what I see, a lot ofmuay thai, a lot of stand up.
(08:54):
I would say yeah, um, I preferwrestling as my strength and
incorporating the striking intomy takedowns just works better
for me, since I don't have thegreatest stand up, as you would
say but I can take you down andthen it builds from there.
(09:14):
But yeah, I see a lot ofstrikers, a lot of great
strikers out there.
Um, actually I think yeah.
So I don't know if you everheard of them, but Cage Thunder
is another promotion and I saw aboxer.
He's actually a solid boxer andhe came in to make his MMA debut
and he got slapped in like 20seconds, and I'm talking, he got
(09:40):
caught and face down.
I was like, oh wow, so strikingis huge, but you but
incorporating takedowns,wrestling jiu-jitsu that's where
it's got to be, but I do see alot of boxing and Muay Thai guys
out there.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I was going to say for you to say that your hands
aren't that good from what I sawlive.
If there's guys better than you, I'd be afraid of anybody
coming out of your gym withStrike 8 because your stand-up
looked on point when I got tosee Saturday Night at
Mountaineer.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I appreciate that I really do.
That really makes my daybecause, honestly, I'm the worst
out of all of them with thehands.
They they're ronalds, chris,anthony, even holly she's making
her debut next weekend.
Their heads are phenomenal andfor you to say that just it just
(10:38):
makes me so happy.
I'm gonna go tell them later onand they're gonna tell me to
shut up because they are,they're really great.
I mean, chris.
Chris has a title, actually heowns, he has the made men's one,
85 title now.
Okay, yeah.
So he fought at Mountaineer afew months ago and he wanted
that was a dog fight.
(10:59):
He's, he's great.
He's been part of my camp sinceday one.
He's great.
He's been part of my camp sinceday one.
All-american wrestler, purplebelt in jiu-jitsu and his boxing
is phenomenal.
His kickboxing is phenomenal.
He goes out to Hawaii everyonce in a while to train with I
don't know their name, but thefamily, the son one of the
(11:20):
fighters is a welterweight andmiddleweight champ for one
fighting championship.
So they're solid and he justcomes back with a wealth of
knowledge.
We got Ron, who hits like aMack truck and he floats just on
the mat.
He just floats, he just he'llkick you twice, punch you three
times.
You're like where'd that comefrom?
(11:40):
And you got Anthony Prosley.
He's, technically, he's mycousin.
So, okay, we have family beefsometimes, but we settle it okay
now he's a good guy.
He has hands, he just that boy.
He hits.
He fights 160 but he hits likea 230 pounder.
He just he just knocks people.
(12:01):
I, I think he's, he's eight, no, as well, but in a kickboxing I
think he's seven known andkickboxing Muay Thai and one or
no.
In MMA he's.
He's a stud.
And Holly's making her debutand I'll say it on here right
now Uh, a lot of us are inagreement that she probably has
the best boxing on the team.
(12:22):
She's just, she's looking atChris and looking.
I'm really looking forward toher debut coming up.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm definitely going to have tocheck that out for sure,
because we've had other combatfighters on here who are MMA or
pro boxing realm.
Do you think that MMA fighterswho come into the sport with
some type of background, um,have a better chance to make it
(12:51):
further in their mma uh career,you know, such as martial arts,
wrestling or boxing?
I mean, do they have a leg upon everybody or is it more just
your camps that you go throughto really show the success?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Like I said, my strong style is wrestling.
If you could stop my takedowns,if you could stop my advances
on the ground when we get there,which becomes jujitsu at that
point, when we get to the ground, then we can work on the hands
and stuff, like you know.
So, honestly, I will be biasedabout wrestling, right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's better to have a wrestler turn to boxer,
kickboxer, jujitsu guy, then aboxer to like wrestling jujitsu.
But honestly, I've seen a tonof people that might have
strictly boxing come in and pickup wrestling very easily.
(13:48):
And then I've seen wrestlerscome in and have great boxing,
kickboxing, five, six monthsinto coming to the gym.
I'm like whoa.
And then I see someone who'snever done anything like that.
For instance, my buddy, zachBerkey, came in.
I think he played the cross anda couple other sports, but
(14:10):
nothing like wrestling.
And he's phenomenal in BJJ he's, he's one of the you know, but
he's a stud, you know, he justhe comes in and competes, he
trains all the time.
Um, but I would say wrestling.
But I can't, I don't know.
For me it was wrestling.
For me it worked.
(14:32):
For me Wrestling was my firstlove in sports, so that would be
my guess.
But I'm sure anyone coming inwith any kind of combatives,
whether it's Taekwondo, muayThai, boxing, anything like that
, coming into MMA, they have aleg up on someone who's just
totally coming in, not competingat all, like that, just because
(14:53):
the adrenaline dump the nerves,the camps.
You've already been throughsomething like that before so
you can kind of understandwhat's to come yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Just I would have to agree with the wrestling because
, like I said, I have a blackbelt in Taekwondo and I remember
for like a month straight, likeevery wednesday, they had, uh,
someone from jujitsu come in andit was strictly jujitsu class
day and learning the advances onthe ground.
And it's a lot tougher thanlike people see like oh, it
(15:30):
looks like they're just layingon each other, like there's a
lot of work going into trying toadvance your position.
And a lot of us were strugglingat like that first week, like
trying to figure out like we'reused to standing up, we're not
used to being on the ground, andnow it's a completely different
world when you're down there.
And yeah, it took us, it tookus all a while to to get to it.
(15:54):
So I give anybody who can dojujitsu and ground work a ton of
credit, because I did it for amonth and I was just like I
don't, I don't know if this is,I can't, I'm not good on the
ground.
One, I'm six five and likethat's tough enough as it is.
But you know, I wasn't always.
I was a 155 or so, okay at sixfive.
(16:15):
You know that that's, that'sskin and bones.
It looks like it's pretty skinny, so uh, not so much anymore now
that I'm getting older.
I wouldn't be.
I wouldn't be in your weightclass at 205.
So, um, still look worldsdifferent compared to you, but
still, I also have livedbasically in bars for the past
(16:38):
13 years being a comedian, sothat doesn't it's not good
weight.
Let's put it that way well,yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean, that's how this fight came about, really my
last fight.
It's just hard finding fights,so you know, like, oh, when's
the next one, don't know.
People said no Fights fellthrough.
So I'm like, let's turn pro.
That fell through.
And then this opportunity cameup and me and a few buddies and
(17:07):
the gym owner were out in Cantonwatching Alonzo Turner fight
and the gym owner were out inCanton watching Alonzo Turner
fight.
And Alonzo Turner is a greatpro fighter out of the
Revolution fight team out inEuclid or Cleveland and we
cross-trained with them and hecomes over and he helps me a lot
and he was out there fightingand obviously, when I'm not in
(17:31):
camp I'm drinking.
Especially at a fight, I'mdrinking and we we had some.
We had a bit of drinks and Isaw the matchmaker and I was
like I'll take the fight.
And she's like are you serious?
I'm like, yes, 100 percent.
And I think two days later shesent me the contract.
I'm like, oh shit, this isreally going to happen.
Two days later she sent me thecontract.
I'm like, oh shit, this isreally going to happen.
(17:54):
And I sent it to my coach, theowner, my buddies, and they're
like, oh, wow, yeah, it's reallyhappening.
I'm like, yep, here we go.
And it's like yeah you know,that's what got me into the
situation for the last one,which it was a good situation.
I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, came away with a title.
That's a good day at the office.
You know what I mean and so youknow.
Former guests of the show.
Dr Roger Wang.
How did you guys meet?
Is it more through His work ordid you know him Previously?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
When I started training at Upgraded I had my
right arm, so I can't straightenmy right arm All the way, it's
stuck.
If arm all the way and that'sstuck, I mean, if you can see it
like that's it right there,that's about as straight as it
gets compared to my left yeah soit was really bad.
I couldn't cover my face.
Uh, dj was like get your handsup.
(18:47):
I'm like I can't.
He's like you mean, I'm like Ican't touch my right hand in my
face.
So I couldn't.
So when I first started havinga lot of issues covering my face
, anytime you would hit it backor touch it, it would go dead,
shooting pain, and then it wouldgo dead for five, 10 seconds.
I couldn't pick it up, Icouldn't throw a punch.
So he's like I got this guy.
(19:14):
He's a chiropractor.
I'm like oh, I lovechiropractors.
My neighbor used to be achiropractor, dr William Buster.
He used to be one.
I love him.
They just help with my body.
I said give him a shout, I'lllet him know you're coming.
I'm like okay, I met Roger.
I went on the Matrix Arms,started feeling great.
So now I can touch my face.
See, that's my right arm,that's the bus, that's the one
(19:36):
that is straight.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's the one that is straight.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I could touch my face with it before I was out here,
like three inches away from myface.
Um so he, I went to him and Inever stopped, never stopped.
He has a decompression table.
Works wonders on my neck andback.
Uh, the matrix is like, I guess, how do you put it?
(19:58):
Uh, tins unit on steroids it,just it's amazing.
And then he has a soft way ofthis machine.
It's supposed to help stimulatecells and help the rebuilding
process.
With all that, he kept me infighting shape.
So I met him through the gymand I just never stopped going.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, I mean, roger is phenomenal and I didn't even
know he was there and he was theformer guest in the show and,
honestly, you know, standing inline it's kind of a funny story
and I was.
I was just kind of looking athim and he was talking to
somebody else.
Like that guy looks familiar.
Why does he look so familiar?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm talking to my wife about it.
I was like I think that's Rogerand I pulled up my phone and I
pulled up his Instagram.
I was trying to pull up apicture of him to kind of like,
look and see, and my wife waslike you know what I'm not
(20:54):
playing?
This game was on near seasonone.
You know we're in season fiveof the show now, awesome, yeah.
So you know, and it was just,it was nice to see you know and
get to have that moment with theanother former guest, because
you know I follow everybody thatcomes on the show and you know,
keep up, keep up with them ifyou know, whatever they're doing
(21:14):
and you know I see projectsconstantly posting stuff all the
while.
But you know it was, it wasjust a surreal, but it was one
of those moments like I was justlooking at him.
He looks so familiar and Icouldn't put my finger on it.
Yep, that's Roger.
There he is at a fight.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Of course he's at a fight.
Of course he's at a fight.
You know he works with a lot offighters oh yeah, he's uh,
dissenters of america and it's.
They kept my body right, I meanfrom when I had acl surgery.
Um, that's when he startedgetting a soft wave.
So we do all everythingpossible to try to, you know,
keep me because I'm gettingolder.
Right, you get older.
Things take longer to recover,to heal up, and I'm like I still
want to fight.
(21:54):
I only did the surgery becauseno one wanted to fight.
And I'm like, well, I've beenfighting on this completely torn
ACL for three years now.
I'm like no one wants to fight.
I have a bug attack on themeniscus, a partially torn MCL.
I'm like, well, let's just dothe surgery.
And my coach was like, well,wow, he's like I guess you are
(22:16):
getting wise.
I was like, well, I mean, Idon't have anything else going
on, so let's do it.
So we did it and Roger was ahuge part of that recovery, just
with the soft wave and I wasadjusting me, just because, you
know, I didn't walk, I couldn'tdo anything for about 10 weeks,
so just my back and my neck andjust I just felt real lopsided
(22:38):
because I just you know I wasright Just at one leg, yeah,
he's.
I mean, it's been plenty oftimes I get hurt and I call him
like, hey, roger, you busytomorrow, are you busy right now
?
And he's like, hey, roger, youbusy tomorrow, are you busy
right now?
He's like, oh no, I'm just Onetime, because he has a shop in
(22:59):
Willoughby and he was almosthome and he lives like 45
minutes away.
He was almost home and I calledhim and said, hey, please, my
back and my rib I think itpopped out Are you on your way
Pass.
He turned around.
He come back and do all that.
I felt so bad because he'scoming back a half hour to drive
(23:23):
another half hour.
I have all love and respect forhim and so appreciative that
he's kept my body healthy likethis.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Absolutely, just with talking to him, so appreciative
that he's kept my body healthylike this.
Yeah, absolutely, you know I,yeah, yeah, just with talking to
him on here and keeping up withhim, you know, as best I can
via social media and everythinglike that.
I mean he's, he's doing goodthings and you know I'm proud
for him and you know, and you aswell, but you know you fighting
at mountaineer uh casino, youknow, can you talk about?
You know what you did.
What was your training camplike?
You talk about what you did.
(23:52):
What was your training camplike?
You talked about a little bitof how you got the fight.
What was your training camplike and how did you prepare for
this fight?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I work 860 Laborers Union so I do a lot of
construction.
That's usually my training everyday.
We've been slow, so I wouldcome in and do a lot of
grappling rounds with whoeverwas available.
What's that?
Alonzo Turner would come in, alot of wrestlers would come in
(24:23):
and we would do what you wouldcall a gauntlet kind of thing
Situational 45 minutes straight.
I would just get mulled, then Iwould get my sparring in.
Um, I don't really run too much.
I don't know if I should saythat on here, because I see
people running miles and milesand miles and they're like what
(24:44):
do you run?
I'm like, uh, you know five,ten minutes to warm up.
They're like what?
Like, yeah, you know, I to me,I'm a very big believer on, if
you're gonna wrestle, you shouldto be in wrestling shape.
You need to wrestle.
Yeah, that makes sense fightingshape to get your sparring
rounds and your grappling roundsin.
(25:05):
Do your mma rounds.
You know you do five, fiveminute rounds in mma and you got
a fresh guy coming in eachround.
You know it's gonna help.
But these technique rounds,those helps.
So I did a lot of grappling umsparring.
I'm older so I think I did oncea week I did a hard spar and
then 200 times.
So the week I did a lot offlowy sparring um, a lot of mitt
(25:27):
work.
You and I didn't have to cutany weight so I had to eat
whatever I wanted.
A lot of steak, a lot of steakum, huge steak yeah, I would get
like a porterhouse and stufflike that.
So a lot of food.
That was big in this camp.
A lot of food, um, yeah, andjust getting pushed to the max
(25:50):
by these guys.
I was exhausted every time.
So I might be eight no, on thebooks but I lose.
Every day in here that I comein here and train, I literally I
lose.
These guys are great and theyjust beat the tar out of me and
I don't feel like I win anything.
I okay, let me take that.
(26:11):
If I escape something and if Iget out of something.
I'm like that's a win.
You know what I mean.
That's a dub for me with theseguys.
But yeah, just breaking it upto where my body stayed healthy,
seeing Roger two, three times aweek eating, mentally,
(26:31):
preparing, uh, and I, uh, chris,draggy and alonzo um, this was
a big part that I never reallytalked about too much but it to
me it helped out a lot.
Was they preached a word?
Um, so I had a bible and I putit in my truck.
(26:52):
So whenever I would have abreak or something, I'm like, oh
, what am I doing?
Waiting on my kids to, you know, get out the house with their
clothes.
I can take them somewhere, reada little scripture, a little
prayer.
I don't do it every day, so I'mnot gonna be like, oh, every
day I was doing this.
No, I, I started a habit ofjust doing these things, not
(27:13):
every day, but it helps clear mymind.
But I think reading thescripture and talking to them
about it helps out a lot with mymental state this time.
Um, so, scripture, training,eating and, uh, you know that
was from roger, that was my campand uh, very happy, it all
(27:35):
worked out because you know,like I said, I'm gonna be 38, so
we had to find a, a routinethat worked best can't be too
sore, because it takes my bodylonger to recover.
What are the steps of recoverythat I was doing?
So it's basically just justgetting in shape and recovering.
You already know how to fight,you know.
You know can't teach an old dognew tricks.
(27:56):
I guess you want to say yeah,but make sure that I'm in shape,
because if I'm in shape theneverything should fall into
place.
So that's basically making sureI'm in shape, staying healthy
mentally and physically.
And I got the flu actually aweek and a half before this
fight, which sucked because Iwas two, 12 and after the flow I
(28:20):
was the first two days I slept44 hours.
So at a 48 hours I slept 44.
I didn't eat for four days, soI was one 98.
When I stepped on the scale Iwas like, oh wow, I'm way
underweight, so trying to get myweight back up.
But yeah, that was it.
That was training camp a lot ofgrappling rounds, one hard
(28:42):
sparring round, two lightsparring rounds, scripture and
seeing my kids.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, see, you mentioned something there
because I was never a big, youknow, and seeing my kids, you
know, that's, that was it.
Yeah, See, you mentionedsomething there.
Cause I was never a big runnerwhen I was, you know, in sports,
you know, and played football,you know it's running all day
and but I was also a swimmer tooas well.
So no running at all there, butour coach in college always
(29:13):
would make us go and run laps.
It's like this.
It's not going to build theright cardio that I need to go
out there and sprint a 50 or 100I agree like yeah, you know,
let me do these laps in the pool, let me get into swimming shape
(29:34):
Because they give us theChristmas break off.
So basically all of December incollege we had off, but we had
to be back January 2nd or 3rd,back on campus and back in the
pool and working out.
Again.
It's the holidays.
Nobody was staying in shape.
(29:55):
Nobody was going to their localYMCA and swimming over
Christmas break or doing anytype of workouts over Christmas
break.
I come from a full-bloodedItalian family.
I did nothing but eat allDecember and then I had to come
back and get it back intoswimming shape because it was
coming down near the last littlesprint to our season and then
(30:16):
conference championships.
It was because we're going torun why I can see getting into
the weight room.
I can understand that, but wedon't need to run to do this.
All this is going to do is putmore pressure on our knees and
our joints and make those sore.
Let us get into the pool, wherethere's no contact on that, and
(30:39):
we'll get back into swimmingshape.
I fought him all of January.
Every time he made us run Everytime.
So I get it with.
You know, get your cardio indoing what you're going to be
doing, and I think that thatworks out a lot better.
But yeah, that's, that's justme.
But what do I know?
I'm still an up-and-comingcomedian, so you know you're
(31:00):
right, I agree.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean like the best right.
I mean I did other things, soswimming actually I used to swim
all the time as a crosstraining.
My dad got me into that becauseit's easier on the joint, but
yeah you're still gonna burn thelungs and you use different
muscles absolutely, so I waslike oh I was lucky enough that.
(31:22):
So in euclid my dad reached outto the mayor, um and a school
board to see if I could get intosenior swims in the morning.
So I would get up at four inthe morning every other day, or
in the morning, eat breakfast,be at senior swim excuse me, by
5.
I am swimming, do my workout,be done by six, 15.
(31:45):
Shower and then go to school.
So swimming was a huge part ofthat.
And then obviously I wasyounger and I would go run six
miles, even in the snow.
I used to think of, uh, oh mygosh, what is it?
I would always think aboutRocky.
Rocky running in the mountainand then, um, there's this.
I'm drawing a blank, butthere's this old school
(32:07):
wrestling movie.
Um, man, I can't believe, Ican't remember it, but one of
the scenes is the guy holding alog on his shoulder and he's
just like marching through thesnow, or he's like just using it
walking out the bleachers.
So my dad would do silly stufflike that.
(32:27):
Cross-country skiing was also adifferent form of cardio that
he put me through.
There are people likecross-country skiing.
I'm okay.
You ever go up the hill just tocome down the hill and go for
three, four hours at a time,like that's a lot of cardio.
But you got swimming.
Oh, I got so lucky I was, I gotlucky to swim.
(32:48):
There was this old timer therehe was, I think the guy that was
the lifeguard said he was like88 years old, done senior
olympics, all that stuff.
He was my gauge on how good Iwas, or my cardio, because when
I first got in there, not goodat all.
I mean, try to sprint for 30seconds in a pool, right, yeah,
(33:09):
just freestyle it all the waydown the bank.
Yeah, I'm good.
Oh, that was 10 seconds.
What so?
You gotta?
You got to.
You know.
Oh, man, this guy would gononstop the whole time and I was
so appreciative because he blewme out of the water in the
beginning and then at the veryend, when it came down to crunch
time for States or Nationals, Iwas keeping up with him.
(33:32):
He came in the locker and hejust shook my hand and smiled
and said good job.
I kept up with him that day andthat's when I knew that I was
in great shape.
Because this guy was inphenomenal shape.
Swimming has a, it's here.
It's great for me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I loved it.
It wasn't for an unfortunateinjury.
It it wasn't for an unfortunateinjury Back in high school
playing football, knowing I hadscholarships on the table for
swimming.
It separated my shoulder Senioryear of high school and it
still clicks and pops today.
But I lost my senior swimseason in high school.
(34:15):
Luckily, bethany College kepttheir scholarship for me so I
could still go and swim afterrehab and everything like that
and got to swim in college.
But I still remember I had aton of buddies that went there
that played football and theywould rag on me all the time oh,
you're a swimmer, you know yoursport's not that tough, blah,
blah, blah.
And I was like, all right, whydon't we get settled in the pool
(34:38):
?
That, if my sport's not thattough, you're in the middle of
your season.
Yeah, you should be able to domy workout then, right, right.
And we got into the pool and wegot through the warm-up portion
of it.
He was like, oh man, that wasintense.
I was like like that is to getus ready for what we're about to
do.
So if you think that's tough,you're in for a treat.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Um, so yeah, swimming doesn't get the credit that I I
think it deserves it doesn't,it's, it's great cross and that
actually an injury, got me toswimming.
Uh, so I tore I don't even knowthe muscles in the back, but
right there where the shoulderblade and all that was, and you
know it just got caught and I Itore part of it so I couldn't
(35:25):
wrestle for a little bit.
So I was younger, so everythingheals faster.
So it was about a month but alot of swimming to rehab it.
And all that because I was like, damn well, what do you do for
this?
Like well, you just rehab it.
Like, how do you do that swim?
My dad's like, okay, yeah, Ilike it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It just definitely doesn't get the respect that it
deserves yeah, for sure, um, butgetting getting back on track,
you know, you know, besides themountaineer casino, uh, that you
read, have you found any otherunique places like that, or was
that kind of the most uniquevenue that you've been at in
your fighting career?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So I have three fights under the Mountaineer and
three under Ohio Combat League.
They all were actually prettycool venues.
I think the biggest venue andthe coolest one was in Columbus
for OCO.
It was my third fight.
We had a lot of technicaldifficulties so we didn't have a
(36:22):
walkout song.
You're kind of like trying toplay stuff in your head.
That venue was really nice.
I can't remember exactly whereit was, but it's huge, it was
nice.
And then we fought at the EuclidSports Plant.
That was the made men's one.
I like that brings back oldmemories.
I used to train up there when Iwas a kid.
Ocl's Newark, ohio, the onethat they had there.
(36:49):
That's always a nice venue.
But oh, I also fought at theHollywood Casino for ocl.
That was my fifth fight.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that was forthe.
That was two weeks, so I havefour titles 170 for made men's.
And then two weeks later Ifought for ocl, got a 185 belt
(37:13):
there.
And then I fought a year laterin October for Made Men's and
got their 185 belt.
And then I just fought for MadeMen's again and got their 205.
So they all have very sweetmemories to me.
(37:33):
But if I want to go, it has tobe made Ben's, because I mean
I've stayed at the casino there.
I played the casino there, thefood was great, everything was
pretty close and I mean youcan't really beat winning a
(37:53):
title there, so yeah definitelywinning a title there.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Definitely winning a title would be definitely up
there on most special venuesthat you've fought at here.
Tony, we're all running downhere near the end of the show
here, but I do need to get thissegment in For the usual
listeners.
You'll know what this segmentis For the new listeners out
there.
This is the Fast Fitty Five.
(38:18):
Five random questions from thewonderful manager of the podcast
, johnny Fitty Falcone, and ifanybody knows Fitty, these are
the most random questions thatyou could possibly get.
He sent these to me today,though, tony, so I don't get to
see these before we, um, we, weair the show and I think it's
(38:39):
because he sometimes he tries tomake me laugh, but these are
kind of rapid fire questions,but you can elaborate if you
need to.
So if you are ready to tacklethem, that's 25, all right.
Question number one what is thebest color of Skittles to eat?
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I like the yellow ones.
It's not yellow.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Not a bad choice.
Question number two Sled ridingor building a snowman which is
a better snow day activity?
Sled riding, Sled riding yeah,that was up for you.
I think I don't know who savedSnowman with slut rottings on
the table.
Question number three what isthe most overrated fast food
restaurant in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Oh my god, what is it ?
All of them, they all suck.
Oh jeez, what is it.
Oh my god, what is it?
Swanson's, I want to say theonly one I've been to has been
not great.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, yeah, question number four Better action movie
actor Chuck Norris or StevenSeagal?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Chuck Norris, no one's going to pick Steven
Seagal.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, I don't know why yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
And last but not least, question number five what
does the movie well, no sorry,where does the movie the Titanic
rank an all-time best moviesever, in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
In my opinion.
I mean, it's a classic.
I'll say top 10 just becauseit's a classic.
My sister loves it, my momloves it.
You know it's a love story.
I guess, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I say it's a tragedy because all the men died.
But you know, it's definitelytragedy because all the men died
.
But you know, yeah, it's, it'sdefinitely a classic, it's
definitely up there, for sure.
But that was the Fast 85.
I feel like he took it easy onyou, though, for these questions
you can hit me with any morequestions you want because he
normally has like these most.
(40:55):
When I say these are randomquestions, there was one that
still sticks out to me.
It was alright, you're trappedin a racquetball court and
you're in there.
It's you, conor McGregor,batman and a black bear who
comes out a lot.
It's like those types ofquestions that he comes up with.
(41:15):
Batman, yeah, comes out a lot.
It's those types of questionsthat he comes up with.
Batman yeah, I think the guestthat question was on said Batman
as well.
So that's definitely yeah, butstill, yeah, that's some of the
types of questions that he comesup with for this segment.
That's just the way Johnny'smind works.
(41:38):
But, like I said, tony, we'rerunning down near the end of the
episode.
I give every guest thisopportunity at the end of the
show.
So if there's anything you wantto get out there, whether it's
for your gym I know you recentlyjust retired from fighting, so
no fights coming up If there'sanything you want to get out
there, or even if it's just agood message, I'm going to give
you about a minute, man, and thefloor is yours All right, cool
(41:59):
Descendants of America.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Roger Wong just kept me fighting as long as I have.
Appreciate it.
Evolution, painting andRestoration.
Sorry, you can't see that's mybuddy's place.
He paints.
He does a great job.
My training partners ChrisAlonzo, ronald Anthony, dj you
(42:23):
know all you know coming up hereto Upgraded Industries and you
know you all helped me get towhere I am today and I
appreciate it.
Love you guys.
I appreciate you guys having meon here and, in all honesty,
without the Lord and all that,none of this is possible.
So he gets the most praise ofthem all.
(42:45):
So I appreciate it.
Guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Not a problem at all.
Anthony, thank you for comingon, and I love it when guests
have a good message at the endof the show.
I'm all for helping peoplepromote stuff and what they got
going on, but when it's a goodmessage like that at the end, I
love them to show.
That way.
That's definitely a great wayto end the show.
And that is going to do it forthis week's episode of the ride
home rants podcast.
Again, I want to thank theLatin assassin for joining the
(43:12):
show here tonight.
It was a lot of fun to get totalk to you, talk about your
fighting career and everythinglike that.
For sure, everybody go checkout Made man Promotions if you
can anywhere.
It is a phenomenal fight cardEvery time I've seen it and a
lot of great fighters on therethat I think you'll enjoy.
But, as always, if you enjoyedthe show, be a friend, tell a
(43:35):
friend.
If you didn't tell them anyways, they might like it just
because you didn't.
That's going to do it for meand I will see y'all next week.
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