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Six passionate fans of television gather around the virtual table for a hilarious, nostalgic journey through decades of TV history. Host Fiddy guides this roundtable exploration of what makes certain shows endure in our collective memory while others fade away despite critical acclaim.

The conversation opens with a playful debate about Monopoly versus Scrabble before diving into the shows that defined different eras. Miste  reminisces about 80s classics like "A Different World," while others champion everything from "Andy Griffith" to "The Sopranos." What emerges is a fascinating look at how television reflects our values and cultural moments across generations.

When the topic turns to "Beverly Hills 90210," the group unpacks how this teen drama revolutionized television by tackling previously taboo subjects like HIV/AIDS, teen pregnancy, and substance abuse. As Dave astutely observes, this trailblazing approach may have inadvertently launched television's ongoing quest for increasingly shocking content—for better or worse.

Personal connections make this discussion especially rich. Rusty reveals his great-uncle was one of the original writers for "Jeopardy!" while Chris explains why "Jersey Shore" felt like a harmful caricature of Italian-Americans. These personal insights transform typical TV talk into something more meaningful about representation and cultural impact.

The animated smackdown between "Family Guy" and "The Simpsons" divides the room, while universally panned shows like "Jersey Shore" unite them in creative condemnation (with descriptions ranging from "fatalian" to "diabolical"). Throughout it all runs a current of genuine appreciation for how television brings us together, shapes our perspectives, and provides the shared cultural references that connect us.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Ride Home
Rants podcast.
This is your special guest,host Fitty, and today we bring
you an excellent roundtable andsome very, very special guests
all coming back to talk allthings TV shows.
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The sponsors are the ones thatmake this show go and, of course

(00:41):
, our great roundtable of guestscontributing to the show Make
the Show Go Round.
So, without further ado, we'regoing to talk all things TV
shows today.
Another roundtable.
It should be interesting whenwe go through this.
We're looking forward toeveryone's answers here for the
topics and the questions we'regoing to go.
So I'm going to let the guysintroduce themselves.
Guys, you're going to say yourname uh, what car do you

(01:05):
currently drive?
And then is monopoly orscrabble a better game, so we're
gonna start with probably themost well-known guest that's
been on our round tables.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Mister, take it away mr, mr, ask you, aka the vampire
coach, as everybody know me, umgot a 2006 porch cayenne still
driving hard, 242,000 miles andstill counting.
And Monopoly is most definitelythe game of the night man, okay

(01:36):
, okay, I respect it's.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
242,000 miles, that's awesome.
So the GO Mike, you're up next.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hello, mike Worrell here.
Um, I still drive my 2013 andPala Chevy and Pala Uh Fitty.
You've seen that car probablybefore, parked at the Gresham
Inn hotel.
Um, only 115,000 miles on it.
I'll drive it to the wheelsfall off and, uh, and I'll agree

(02:08):
with Mr, I'll go with Monopoly,okay.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Dave.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, so my name's Dave Frank and I drive a 2016
Ford F-150 in perhaps the leastsurprising automobile for a high
school offensive line coach.
It just rolled over 100,000miles on my Canadian fishing
trip last week, and so it's timeto turn it in.
I'm going to upgrade to a newyeah, 2024 F-150 this week.

(02:39):
Okay, and is Monopoly orScrabble better?
Board game, yeah.
So I actually don't like eitherof those questions.
I prefer the game of life.
I think it's a way better move.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, well, we'll throw this out there before we
go to our next guest.
I actually do have the FamilyGuy version of Life.
I got that in college manyyears ago now probably 17, 18
years ago.
It's a great game, especiallyif you ever get a chance to play
it.
It's very comical.
So, rusty, we're going to go toyou next.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Hey, my name is Rusty Bliss.
I'm driving a 2024 Kia Sportage.
I need the SUV room to haul allthe softball crap around, at
least for a couple more years.
Board game Scrabble Opens updoors for a little more
creativity than Monopoly does.
Scrabble opens up doors for alittle more creativity than
Monopoly does, but you could goeither way with it, okay.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Alexander.
Hey, my name's Alexander.
I'm driving a Toyota CHR 2022,ready to trade it in, looking to
get my first pickup truck.
Thinking about going midsize.

(03:50):
Thinking about either Tacoma orColorado, so not sure.
Still thinking about that.
As far as board games go, I'mgoing with Monopoly, because I
can't spell with a damn.
I hate it.
So Scrabble is out, Monopoly isin 100%.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, okay, and probably that's why you're a
two-time graduate in psychologyand not English, right?
Good one, right.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You know we come with the good one-liners here on the
Ride Home Ranch Show.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
You know, we got to keep it a little bit, uh, a
little bit loose for everyone.
And then, uh, chris, hey, allit's christopher marscoe.
Uh, drive a 2016 chevysilverado with dents and
scratches and rust and the wholenine yards, but it's paid off,
so we're gonna ride that untilthe wheels fall off.
We got another hundred hundredfifty thousand in store, so
we'll be around a little bit.
And then, uh, I'm a little bitof a nerd, so I I could do a
number in scrabble.
That's kind of my, my secret,uh, my secret game.

(04:52):
If they're beating me andeverything else, I just pull out
scrabble and then it's on okayI drive a?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
um, I drive a 2024 chevy trax.
I actually had to trade in myCorolla a couple years ago First
car I ever had in 2010.
Got it after I graduated anddrove it to 2023.
Had that thing rebuilt, lovedthat Corolla.
Had to trade it in though I wasdealing with some issues with

(05:18):
the exhaust and stuff like that,so, but I love that car.
Had about 240,000 miles on itUm, really loved it.
Um, you know, it was with melike 36% of my life or something
like that.
So there's definitely some uh,some meaning behind that with
the car and you know, it wasdefinitely like a sentimental
thing.
Um, I don't like monopoly.
I think it's too hard, I thinkit takes forever to play.

(05:40):
But give me a game of Scrabble,let me get a cup of coffee and
I'll bang out playing at like 830 at night, just sipping away
and, and, uh, trying to get someuh, triple letter words there.
So, um, but we're not here totalk about board games, although
, mike, this could be a good onefor the future.
We could do a board game roundtable.
It could be a lot of fun.
So, but we're going to go intothe show here, so we're gonna go

(06:03):
mr mike, dave rusty, alexanderand chris with the answers.
So first one, we're gonna kindof throw it off right off the
bat what is your favorite tvshow of all time, mister?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
favorite tv show of all time, holy cow.
Man, that's a.
You know what.
That's the excellent questionright there, big dog, because
you know I really don't watchtoo many TV shows, man.
But if I had, I'll tell youwhat.
Though, but if I had to pickone, one that's coming to my

(06:41):
mind, man, some of the old onesfrom the 1980s man, the 80s and
90s man, like a different worldman, different world, different
strokes, you know that wholelittle area, man loved it.
Man.
The Bill Conti show, man, youknow all them shows from back
then, man, you know love them.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Okay, okay, how about you?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Mike Hands down for me?
It them Okay, okay.
How about you?
Mike Hands down?
For me, it's a second, but myall-time is the Andy Griffith
Show, followed closely by HappyDays and with Ron Howard, both
those shows and two of thegreatest TV shows of all time,
ronnie Howard Okay, okay, dave.
What about you?
Two of the greatest TV shows ofall time Ronnie Howard.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Okay, dave, what about you?
I think it's kind of acomplicated question and, by the
way, your board game podcast is, I think, a little bit of a
risk.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That was a good one.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
That was a good one.
So, you know, I think the showthat I watch more frequently
than anything else is Jeopardy.
But if we're pulling forgreatest show of all time, for
me it's a combination.
It's either Rescue Me was on FXwith Dennis Leary or, you know,

(08:02):
the Sopranos man.
I think it's really hard tobeat.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Okay, how about you, rusty?

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Let's date myself.
Let's go back to the 70s.
I, like you know, mr, said Idon't really watch a lot of TV.
But let's go back to the 70swhen we were trapped in that
childhood thing and watching itand it's going to be Happy Days
was a good one.
That sparked a few memories.
But let's go to the primetimestuff, maybe Chips.

(08:32):
Oh, okay, you know John andPonch got into some shit that
you know the Highway Patroldon't even mess with anymore.
So I mean any way to turn some.
And as the show went on and onand on, the storylines got
crazier.
But yeah, the OG, a couple ofthose episodes back in the 70s,
those seasons, that was goodprimetime stuff for a kid to

(08:52):
watch.
Okay, okay, how about you,Alexander.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Let's see, I'm going to probably go with.
I know it's going to be arandom one, but for me I can
just sit down and watch itanytime it's on television, if
I'm at background noise, but I'mgoing to go with.
Everybody Knows Raymond, okay,I mean it's just Hilarious.
It's just got that.
Yeah, it's got that hilariousfeel.
It's just the way how Robertlooks when Raymond says

(09:21):
something silly about him andtalks about him.
He just has that stone-facedlook like I just want to beat
you up or whatever, and itcatches me off guard every time.
But yeah, everybody lovesRaymond.
Probably be my top show, okay.
And how about you, marsco?

Speaker 7 (09:35):
It brought up a good point.
We're counting Sopranos.
He's an Italian, it's got to beSopranos.
I didn't have Sopranos on mylist.
I was thinking more.
You know, weeknight TV, I'm abig Seinfeld guy, a little
cliche, but I just I find thehumor dry, sometimes funny

(09:55):
nonetheless, and you know,growing up I really liked Looney
Tunes, waking up on a weekendmorning watching Looney Tunes,
and they don't really makeanything like that anymore.
You can't blow people upanymore.
Their bill spins around.
That's kind of cool in atimeless way too.
Hey, philly.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'll say mine is Go ahead, mister.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, I was going to say one more.
If I can say that I can watchtime and time is freaking Miami
Vice.
That's probably time it'sfreaking Miami Vice.
That's probably my all-timeMiami Vice, the best-dressed guy
ever Don Johnson.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
He was a trendsetter with the apparel.
That's a good one.
I would probably say.
Miami Vice is up there for meand it's bringing me back to
like the nostalgia of like theearly 90s and being like five
and six years old and watchingit.
I nostalgia of like the earlynineties and being like five and
six years old and watching it.
Um, I'd probably say thedinosaurs.
Jim Henson did it.
Um, not, people may notremember it, but that's like a
nostalgic thing for me.

(10:52):
But I love the dinosaurs, um,not the mama, people that don't
know.
Elmo did baby Sinclair's voice.
The same guy that did Elmo'sdid baby Sinclair.
So, uh, really, really, uh lovethat, uh, so, so, yeah, the
dinosaurs for me.
So we're gonna go back tomister on this, um, and just
really, this is just yes or no,but if you want to elaborate,

(11:13):
you can.
Uh, do you like the showjeopardy yeah, yeah, I do, man.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know I like to make you think keep doing your
p's and q's, man, so I don'tyeah how about you, mike?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
No, I'm not saying I hate it.
My wife watches it every night.
But I don't have to.
I go to another room.
So I'll just say no.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Dave kind of brought this up already.
But, dave, do you like Jeopardy, or how much do you love
Jeopardy?
You're on mute, dave.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
It's a bucket list item For me to be on Jeopardy
someday.
I'm super excited about it, infact, one of the little known
facts.
Besides drinking copiousamounts of beer, our coaching
staff is phenomenally wellversed in Jeopardy.
We come up with a drinking gameof Jeopardy you get one right,
you get to give out a drink.
You get one wrong, you have totake a drink.
And yeah, it's a littlestimulation in the knowledge for

(12:11):
something off the gridiron okay, how about you?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
rusty um.
What are we talking about formy daughter?
Yeah, jeopardy.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Do you like, oh like you're so loving.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Oh yeah, jeopardy's awesome, and I got a family
story to go to with jeopardy.
So so anybody familiar withOhio University?
Oh yeah, oh, yeah, okay, theCommunications and Broadcasting
School is named after my greatuncle, archie Greer, who was one
of the original writers of theoriginal Jeopardy and he taught

(12:43):
guys I don't know if the Ohioguys remember Dale Solly from
Channel 8, who passed away whenhe was working for a news
station in Washington DC.
Joe Tate was a student of UncleArchie's and worked with him
later on back in the day.
Everybody loves Joe Tate.
But yeah, jeopardy the originalone of course I never saw it
I'm not that old but as it madeits way through the 80s and the

(13:07):
90s with Alex Trebek, it wasgreat.
It got a little bit watereddown later on, but you know it
had a hell of a run and it'sstill going, no matter who they
put in that spot.
But yeah, I like it.
I mean it got comical sometimestoo, but it was a good show.
Okay, how about you, alexander?

Speaker 6 (13:28):
I like it.
I especially like it when thecollege students are on there
just to see you know how they bepicking their brains and they
just know so much at a young age.
So I definitely love, like thespecial editions, you know, when
Jeopardy airs.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
Okay, how about you, chris?
Yeah, so I mentioned earlierI'm a little bit of a nerd.
That gives me an opportunitywith whoever I'm in the room
with, to show off a little bitKind of show how well versed I
am In things.
My Bubby, when I was over at mygrandma's house Growing up, it
was always on the television andI learned to love it growing up

(14:03):
and I don't know, I find greatvalue in watching.
I feel like it helps keep mesharp.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, I love Jeopardy .
I was a huge fan and still am,though, of Alex Trebek, you know
.
Rest in peace.
I actually read hisautobiography as well, before he
died that he wrote.
So I really, really love that.
And you know, fun fact, peopledon't know the guy that says
this is Jeopardy Johnny,whatever his name is, but he's

(14:30):
like 97 years old and he stillworks doing that.
So there's a little fun factabout that.
But I really liked Alex Trebek.
I don't know if the Jeopardyfans remember this or not, but
after he was diagnosed withcancer, he was on the show and
or hosting the show, of course,and one of the contestants for
the final round for FinalJeopardy.

(14:50):
Instead of writing the answerhosting the show, of course, and
one of the contestants for thefinal round for final jeopardy
um, instead of writing theanswer, he wrote we love you,
alex, on that.
And uh, I remember that got alittle emotional on the uh on
the screen.
So if no one's ever seen that,I would highly encourage you to
youtube that.
I think it was a very sinceregesture.
So rest in peace, alex trebek.
We always will love you forJeopardy.

(15:11):
So going back to Mister on thisone and I'm kind of curious
because this is a newer show itactually wasn't on cable.
You know, of course, it was onParamount and then went to CBS a
little bit later.
But did you watch the showYellowstone with Kevin Costner
when it was on?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Nah, I never watched it.
Okay, with Kevin Costner whenit was on.
Nah, I never watched it Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
How about you, Mike?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I watched a few episodes my wife loves it and
some of my friends but I justhaven't watched the full series
to even have much of an opinion.
A couple of episodes I watchedI liked, but that's about it.
Okay, how about you, Dave?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Well, look, mike, it's sitting in my queue.
I've seen a couple episodes andyou know, in theory I think I
should like it.
I'm a pretty basic suburbanwhite dad, so I mean I'll get to
it eventually.
We need another coach, we'recaught up.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Okay, rusty, just haven't had time.
I mean, between work and thekids and sports, they have not
had time to watch reallyanything.
Okay, alexander.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
I've heard about it.
My friends say it's good, but Ijust haven't got a chance to
take a look at it.
But it's definitely on my watchlist.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Okay, chris.
No, nothing about it Does.
It take place in YellowstonePark, so I'm a huge fan of
Yellowstone.
That'd be my best guess.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I have no clue.
So, uh, I'm a huge fan ofyellowstone.
I have no clue.
Yeah, so it was.
Kevin costner was a the largestland owner um in uh, the show
and his property butted up withyellowstone.
But he owned, like it wassomething crazy like 30 000
acres or something like that.
He was a cattle rancher but hehad four kids um in it and they
tried to control the ranch andthere was a lot of conflicts and

(16:52):
just think of like thegodfather but on a ranch, and
that's like the best way I candescribe the show.
And they had two spinoffs ofthat especially.
The one I want to bring up is1883.
Tim McGraw was in that with hiswife Faith Hill.
It was really outstanding.
It really tied into that.
And then 1922 was anotherprequel to that.

(17:16):
That just finished.
So if nobody's had a chance towatch Yellowstone, it is great,
the acting is phenomenal.
Kevin Costner played a really,really great part in that.
But I definitely would say it'slike the Godfather, but being
on a ranch, there are definitelysome cutthroat people out there
.
So if you like people gettingbeaten up and shady deals and

(17:37):
all types of crazy stuff,yellowstone's the way you want
to go.
So the next one I want to askand I'm kind of curious to hear
everybody's answers on this butwhat is the most overrated TV
show that you can remember?
So what is that one that youjust thought, personally, was
overrated?
Now let everybody think aboutthis and I'll start it and I'm

(17:57):
going to say and we'll get intothis later because this is a
topic, but I'm going to say itwas the Jersey Shore.
I think that was the worst,most overrated TV show ever to
hit MTV.
So, mister, what is the mostoverrated tv show in your
opinion?
probably 90210 man, oh boy, ohboy, um, how about you, mike?

(18:20):
Mike, you're on mute I'm notsure overrated.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You're asking was a show lauded as being tremendous.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Whatever you want to say, the show that was on it was
lauded as being great.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Whatever you think, what TV show kind of stands out
that you thought was overrated?
I know this show is regarded asone of the greatest ever, but
growing up, I'm older than mostpeople on this panel but a lot
of guys and people watch.
But I grown up, I'm older thanmost people on this panel but,
um, every a lot of guys andpeople watch.
My buddies watch mash and Icould never get into it.
I just I love the mash, themovie, but I just could never

(19:01):
get into the um.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
How about you, dave, go along with Mike, like the one
that I'm supposed to like andI'm supposed to think is just
awesome all the time, gosh, youknow I think it's funny.
Like the one that I'm supposedto like and I'm supposed to
think is just awesome all thetime.
Gosh, you know, I think it'sfunny.
But the Office, I just I don'tsee it, as I think that there's
other shows that are its peers,that are just as funny or
funnier, and people just go nutsfor the Office.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
OK, how about you, Rusty?
What are you saying?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
The Office is so bad that it's what you get to watch
for free on airlines.
Now it's running on the loop.
No, TV back in the 70s and 80swasn't too bad.
They didn't hype a whole lot ofstuff up.
It kind of was more organic, itcaught on and it's built in
cult followings.
But some of the newer stuff,like people used to say Friends

(19:52):
was overrated, Friends was funnyand for me, traveling so much
when I was trapped in hotelrooms I was kind of stuck
watching this crap.
Big Bang Theory was one thatwas really overrated.
It was, I mean, if you reallysit down and watched it, it was
pretty stupid.
I mean all the hype behind it.
I mean, okay, I understand yougot to push it and promote it,

(20:14):
but man, it was just, it wasstupid.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
Alexander, what are you saying?
Probably say the Kardashiansand like I didn't watch it.
But it's like you just read andhear so much about it and just
advertise it.
But like I didn't watch it.
But it's like you just read andhear so much about it and just
advertise it, but like I don'tcare, I don't care about you
know, her, the family, not to bemean, but I'm just like wow,
like why do I know so much aboutit?
I've never watched the episode,like I just don't care for it.

(20:43):
So that's overrated to me.
Okay, how about you, chris?

Speaker 7 (20:47):
Yeah, fitty, you took mine.
Jersey Shore was right around.
You know, when I was in highschool, spirit weeks for
homecoming were Thursday,thursday and all that jazz, and
I just I couldn't.
It was poking a little too muchfun at Italian Americans for me
, made us seem all like a bunchof bozos, so I was not too keen

(21:08):
on the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, now this next question I'm really curious to
hear, because some of us wouldhave been kids growing up
watching it.
Some of us would have beenmaybe too young, chris.
Some of us definitely justdon't like the show, as Mr
initiated the conversation aboutit.
But Beverly Hills 90210 islauded as a show that was
trendsetting for its time.

(21:32):
It talked about dealing withHIV and AIDS.
It talked about alcoholism.
It talked about drug abuse.
It talked about teen pregnancy.
It talked about a lot ofdifferent things sports.
It talked about how lifeintertwines with a lot of
everyday stuff.
So, in your opinion, wasBeverly Hills 90210 a
trend-setting show?

(21:52):
I'm going to say yes, and Ireally did like that show a lot.
But, mister, what are yousaying?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
You made some good points with that because it did
do that.
You know, when you go back tothat whole little era with the
Beverly Hills 90 to 1-0.
Some of the other shows theyhad on MTV I can't name right
now but it was a trend setter atthat time with, you know, with

(22:22):
different shows coming uptalking about you know, just the
life of a high school student.
You know saying going intocollege or whatnot, and then
just the different things thatkids was going student.
You know, saying going intocollege and whatnot, and then
just the different things thatkids was going through you know
during that time period.
And so you know, and you lookat the shows today, you know I'm

(22:42):
trying to think of, you know, ashow right now that can compare
to that type of show.
It's kind of hard but but yeah,it was a trendsetter okay, mike
, what are you saying about it?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
okay, fitty, I I don't know if I ever watched one
episode of that.
And once I started recruitinghitting the road, I really
didn't watch sitcom tv afterabout 1990 or 92.
So all I watched was likesoprano stuff on hbo, kirby
enthusiasm shows like that andmovies I so coach was the last

(23:19):
sitcom I remember like wantingto watch.
After that, the last 30 someyears I haven't haven't watched
any like network sitcom tv.
So I can't really answer, but II believe whatever you're
saying, finny.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Okay, no, that's perfectly fine Before.
I go on to Dave.
I will say Coach with Craig TNelson is definitely one of the
more underrated shows ever.
Anybody who's a sports personor a football coach that was so,
so comical, with those guysVery far-fetched on certain
things, but the Minnesota Stateteam it was just.

(23:54):
It was hilarious.
So, dave, we're going to go toyou now.
What are you saying aboutBeverly Hills 90210?
Was it trendsetting?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Trendsetting, yes, but I think in a bad way.
I think what it started to dois to open up the door for TV
shows to think that they had topush the envelope further and
further and further, and so thatto the point where you got to
TV shows that were just, youknow, putting stuff out there
for shock value.
You was in the same era as realworld, when they had Pedro

(24:23):
Zamora on there and they had thewhole AIDS conversation with
him as a gay roommate on thereal world, and then, like, like
, it just seemed like every showhad to one up the next one with
how shock value it was.
Now, that being said, ripshannon doherty.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
She's a real one yeah , yeah, she just passed away and
so did um the gentleman thatplayed, uh, dylan, which I'm um,
jason priestly.
No, j no, jason Priestley wassomebody else, it was Luke Perry
.
Luke Perry, yeah, but Rusty,what about you?

(24:59):
Was 90210 trendsetting?

Speaker 5 (25:01):
It was trendsetting, it's when you saw a lot of the
push, of a lot of social issueseither way, and they kind of did
it both sides.
You had the teenage side of itwith the 90210, which led to the
older version, and the spinoffof freaking 90210, which was
melrose place, which was, youknow, probably the only.
The coolest part of it wasprobably the guitar riff at the

(25:23):
beginning of it.
That was, that, was it that wasit, heather locklear next well,
yeah, I know heather locklearwas hot, as I think she did like
nine shows at one timethroughout this span of the 80s
and 90s.
I mean she was doing she wasdoing dynasty and tj hooker at
the same time in the 80s.
I mean she and she was bangingtommy lee.

(25:46):
I mean it was cool.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah.
All right, alexander.
What are you saying aboutBeverly Hills and Isle 2 and 0?

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, definitely think it was transcendent.
Definitely think it paved theway for a lot of these shows to
start speaking about thosetopics and to be more
comfortable about it as well.
So, yeah, it's definitely inthe archives of being a historic
television show.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, Chris, I know you're a little bit young for it
, but what are your thoughts?

Speaker 7 (26:12):
So I had a class where we covered some of this
stuff and we talked about that alittle bit.
I do think it was trendsettingbecause, like many guests have
said, it kind of opened the doorto talk about some of these
things in a way that hadn'tnecessarily been done at that
point in time, and I think Daveand Alexander made a great point
.
Obviously, I'm sure it wasn'tthe only show, but that seemed

(26:36):
to be like the first pillar ofokay.
Now I think we could open it upand get a little crazy with
things and over time nothingstopped that and that's why you
get some of the craziness youhave today.
But for the time yeah, I meanthat's it caught people's
attention and that shock factors.
You know, that kind of turnspeople on.

(26:56):
You want to see whether it's atrain wreck or you fall in love
with it.
So I think, for being at thattime, it was Trent's set.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, okay, next one.
We'll have a little bit of funwith this.
Um, we'll see what everybodythinks, so, uh.
So you just got to say the nameof which one is better Family
Guy or the Simpsons.
And I'm going to say Family Guy, mister.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Samson.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Mike, I'll say Simpsons, even though I only
watched a few episodes of each.
It was around that time framewhen I Was done with sitcom TV.
Okay, dave.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
South Park thanks.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm with you.
I knew that was coming from the, from the show we did way back
in the winter.
So, rusty, what about youSimpsons or Family Guy?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
The Simpsons.
Okay, alexander.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Man, should we explain or we just got to?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
say it.
You just got to say which oneyou think is better.
Okay.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Oh man, I don't know, probably Family Guy.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, how about youris family guy?
Okay, I would say they're,they're both and being the host,
I can kind of go on a rant here.
I think they're both unique intheir own way.
You know, simpsons has been ona long time I think it's the the
longest running tv show of alltime.
We're very close to it.
And you know the family guy,the family guy I mean Seth
MacFarlane has really done afantastic job with that from,

(28:26):
you know, 1998 or 99 till now,for 25, 26 years.
And the thing about family guywould say is they hold no
punches back.
Everyone is fair game in that,whether it's, you know, stuff
that's political, comical,making fun of you know
historical figures, whatever itmay be.
But one thing I'll say too isthey've had a lot of famous

(28:47):
people do the voices on FamilyGuy.
I mean you had Adam West, youhave Mila Kunis, you've had on
Adam Carolla, you've had on TomBrady, you know, and the list
can go on and on and on withwith Family Guy on that.
So one of the next ones I wantto Talk to you about Is Law
Order, and one of the longestRunning TV shows as well, and

(29:08):
they've had a couple Spin-offsfrom there.
And Law Order SVU Is stillgoing strong After 27 years.
So, mister, are you a fan ofLaw Order SVU?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Man which one of them got iced tea in it.
That one got iced tea in it.
That, that's the one I'm with.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Okay, okay.
How about you, Mike?

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Am I a fan of Law Order?
Yeah, no, but my mom passedaway recently in Worcester Ohio.
She watched reruns of it fromwhen I was visiting all day, all
morning, all day.
On some channel carried the oldreruns she watched every day.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Okay, how about you, Dave?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm sorry, was this a question about overrated
television shows?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You're not a fan of Law Order SVU.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
So I'm a fan of Mariska Hargitay.
Other than that, yeah Say hername again.
It's too episodic, mariskaHargitay.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
She has a great, great name.
Great name, yeah, how about?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
you go ahead.
Oh, just far too episodic, fartoo like.
Oh yes, I can guess who thekiller is in the first like four
minutes.
It's like watching a pirategame.
I know what's going to happen.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
All right, what do you got Rusty about?
Law Order SVU, it's one thatwhen it, when it was new, it was
fresh, it was, it was, it wascool and was fun to watch, but
it gets to the point whereyou're starting to repeat some
of the stuff.
It is kind of neat, though, howthey will try and play off of
current events and current somebig cases.

(30:51):
They change a lot of it,obviously, but you know what the
case is, you know what the plotis, so in that instance it's OK
.
Like Mike said, my grandmotherdid the same thing.
She always had it on all daylong.
And you wonder and I wouldalways joke and ask her, how
many of these did you solve yet?
And that was the running joke.
But as it gets going on and on,these things keep going the

(31:15):
creativity tends to go into thetank.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, okay.
How about you, Alexander?

Speaker 6 (31:23):
That's good.
It's good.
They definitely got some good,a couple of good episodes where
you sit down and you be like,okay, I didn't know it was going
to turn out to be that way,because sometimes the beginning
is just completely differentfrom the end.
So, yeah, I think that it has agood spot where it's at, in its
and its continuality and stuff.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
So, yeah, I like it okay and chris round us out on
this it's all right if I catchit when it's on, I'll watch a
little bit of it.
It's not appointment viewingfor me.
I'm kind of intrigued by thewhole, you know, solving mystery
crimes and whatnot.
Um, I do agree.
Uh, like dave, I feel like ifyou were accustomed to those a

(32:07):
little bit, you could kind ofhave your finger on the pulse
and solve it pretty early on.
But I don't know, I'm justintrigued with solving crimes
and whatnot.
So that's where it gets me for,you know, 10, 15 minutes at a
pop, but nothing.
That was appointment viewing.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Okay, we had two topics left we're going to talk
about.
So A lot of us will rememberthis from the 80s.
Chris, unfortunately probablyyou Won't, but you may know
about it.
So are you a fan of the cartoonGI Joe and I'm Pretty sure all
of us have seen that at Somepoint, you know?
And who doesn't love the, theintro, and they scream go Joe on

(32:43):
it.
So, mister, we're gonna we.
They scream go joe on it.
So, um, mister, we're gonna.
We're gonna start with you onthis.
So did you like gi joe when itwas on?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
yeah, I did, man, I watched it, man, I did, I
watched it.
But uh, you know, I was always,you know, saying one what was?
It was a cobra.
Yeah, I think it was.
Yeah, I was always one Cobra tokill everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Okay, Mike, how about you on that?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Did you say the 80s GI Joe?
Wasn't that on in the 60s too?
I mean it might have been.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I remember from the 80s.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Okay, I don't recollect seeing it that often.
I was more of a Flintstones andJetsons guy, but I'm sure it
was good Okay the Jetsonsthrowback right there, Dave.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
What about you with GI Joe?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah.
So here's why I love GI Joe.
Gi Joe was one of thosecartoons that made it cool and
it didn't matter.
They had white guys and blackguys and whoever even knew what
snake eyes was underneath thatmask.
It was a little bit likewatching the Chappelle show man.
It was like everybody got downwith it.
So I don't think you know.

(33:51):
If you grew up in the 80s, youknow everybody wanted that big
aircraft carrier, the USS Flag,and none of us could afford it
because we were all poor and itwas unbelievable.
Absolutely Ten out of 10recommend.
I wish my kids had somethinglike that to watch down.
So there's how to train yourwhatever stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Rusty how about you.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
It was cool.
It was cool, I mean I.
I kind of grew up mostly in theseventies.
The eighties was where welaunched on to other things.
But yeah, it was, it was cool.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, alexander.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah, alexander.
Yeah, man, cobra wasn't nothingto mess with, like.
Anyways, they was there.
They was the real deal for GIJoe man, so they had to bring
the A-game.
So it was definitely a goodcartoon back then.
Okay, and, chris.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
This is the first question.
I feel like you aged me outFitty.
I'm just not not too familiar.
I had gi joe action figuresgrowing up.
Those were really cool.
There is a spin-off of thatshow, but I'm just gonna blow
hot air answering this.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I got no clue okay, and the last question.
You just have to say one wordto describe this show.
Just one word, and it is whatis the best word to describe
this show?
Just one word, and it is whatis the best word to describe
Jersey Shore?
Now, I'm going to start thisand I'm going to say fatalion,
and people may not know whatfatalion means, and it means

(35:14):
fake Italians.
They're fatalians.
So, mister, we're going to goto you.
What's one word to describeJersey Shore?
Mister, we're going to go toyou.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
What's one word to describe?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Jersey.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Shore.
One word to describe what wasit Jersey Shore, jersey Shore,
yep, jersey Shore.
Oh my gosh, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, how about you, mike?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Unspectacular Dave.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Italians.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Rusty garbage, okay, alexander man, I forgot what I
was going to say.
That was funny, dismissive,okay.
And Chris man, I forgot what Iwas going to say Because that
was funny, dismissive, okay, andChris.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Diabolical, diabolical.
That was a good one.
That was a good one to end thiswith, but we're not quite done
yet.
Everyone tuning into the showtoday, because we have Fitty's
Six pack of questions coming upwhen each guest Gets one random
question from yours truly here.
So we're going to start withyou, mister.
Okay, alright, is John Elway,or was John Elway a better

(36:36):
quarterback than BenRoethlisberger?
Yes, Absolutely.
Okay, Freaking A Mike.
We're going to go to you next,Mike.
Who's the greatest basketballcoach of all time taking Red
Auerbach out of the equation?
Who is the greatest basketballcoach of all time taking Red out

(36:57):
of the equation?
Are you?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
saying Red Auerbach was ahead of his time.
Is that why he can't be?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
considered Well, he has the most championships at
that time with what he did.
So who are you saying besideshim?
Are you saying NBA, college,anything NBA?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
NBA.
Well, phil Jackson's won themost titles, but you going with
Phil?
I mean, he coached the greatestplayers too.
I don't know.
There's a lot of good coachesout there.
You know how I feel about this.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I know.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
That's why I wanted to throw it at you.
Dave we're going to go ahead,mike.
No, go ahead, mike.
You're all about titles andchampionships, so I'll go with
Phil for you.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay, I would say Pat Riley, cause he took three
teams to the NBA finals.
But hey, who am I?
I'm just the host of the ridehome rant show.
All right, dave.
Next question is for you If youhad to pick one drink for the
rest of your life to drink, andit was only that drink what do
you pick?
Fear, okay, okay, rusty your.

(38:09):
Your question is when is itappropriate for a man to
strictly grow a mustache?
How old should he be?

Speaker 5 (38:17):
oh my god, as soon as he can start growing it, grow
it.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Okay, okay, alexander .
Which is a worse state to livein, oklahoma or Arizona?

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Well, I was just in Oklahoma with my dad.
For about four or five months Iwas in Lawton, oklahoma.
It was pretty flat land, smalltown.
So I don't know too much AboutArizona, I just know it's very
hot, so Go.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Arizona.
Okay, Chris, you're going toround this out On this one.
How much money would you pay Towatch me fight LeBron James In
a boxing match?

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Could I be like courtside?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
I'd pay a thousand for that.
That'd be entertaining.
Let me ask you how long do youthink that would last For him?
About 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Okay so.
I don't you know he's gonnaFlop on you anyway.
The phantom punch.
Hey, you know what, as long asyou get a win, that's all that
matters.
So Right, but thank you guys somuch For being a part of this,
this round table.
We had a lot of fun Talking allthings TV shows Going back

(39:40):
Talking about MASH, to FamilyGuy, to what's the most
Overrated show of all time andtrendsetting shows like Jeopardy
and Beverly Hills 90210.
Dave Alexander, mr Mike, rustyand Chris, thank you so much for
being here today and bringingsome laughs and some humor to
this episode.
As always, if you enjoyed theshow, be a friend and tell a

(40:01):
friend, and if you didn't, tellthem anyways, because I bet they
like it, just because youdidn't.
This is Fitty signing off andwe will see you next week.
See you, be good.
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